/hsg/ hearthstone general

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1st for Mage is cancer;

>>161199741
Fuck off whiner. Cabalist isn't even played in any good decks.

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Reminder that /hsg/ is just as horny as /svg/, but with furries and likes 3d sluts.

Enjoy the STDs.

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everyday until rotation

>>161199659
2nd for control n'zoth shaman will be high tier (not 1 but probably 2) deck pretty quickly following the expansion.

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>>161199887
Shouldn't you be topdecking lethal or something, you fucking filthy spellcaster?

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HEARTHSTONE IS DEAD, AND 5MANA10/10 KILLED IT!
POST OC INSTEAD!

>Opponent accidentally blows up his entire board with spell-powered Ysera Awakens while trying to BM.
>He only has two cards left, to my 8.
>Given four turns to potentially draw Forbidden Healing.
>Draw my early game minions instead

Im sorry for shitposting but I need to vent this out.

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>>161199741
Why are you complaining when you're obviously raping them? If anything it's extending your luls.

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HAHAHAHAHA 5 MANA 10/10

5 M A N A
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>>161200351
it's shit

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Please do not include /svg/ in the OP, even as a joke, because then lazy posters will click the first thing that pops up and talk about their latest Take 2 and how lolis are cute.

>>161200383
>thread is dead as fuck
>please do not fish for posters and let it sink to page 10

great plan chap

>>161200371
ur mum is shite, 5mana 10/10 is not

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Say something nice about this card.

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10 more days of shaman.

>>161200878
it's good

>>161200878
The art is kinda ok

>>161200878

good in renolock

>>161200878

>5 aoes

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>>161200887
5 MANA 10/10

>>161200878
Memes with brann.

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>>161200878
C O M M O N
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ARENA WARLOCK IS FUCKING BACK

>>161201039
As a big N'zoth fan, I couldn't be happier. That being said, I wish it was in Paladin instead.

Do you guys play tournaments?

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>>161200187
>>161200351
>>161201039
>>161201132
Honest question.

Does anyone else think that Team 5 was retarded and though that a 4 mana 7/7 was balanced in some way, and then after the backlash of memes and critizism regarding that issue, they created this whole 5 mana 10/10 thing just to spite on the playerbase?

Honestly 90% of their declarations and actions seem like a mix of corporate greed, ignorance, ingenuity, spite and anger towards the playerbase.

>>161201295

>tfw you are that guy who always loses in the first round of open cups

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Is this the first expansion where they actually attempted more counters for the set in the set itself.

>>161201295
I won a local fireside. Took the battlenet card over a hogger plush though. Never played any online.

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>tfw to intelligent to play aggro

>>161201309
I absolutely believe they do actually plan two years in advance, but the farther they are in the future, they more out of touch they are because they're basing the yet un-released sets' synergies and strengths off of what the playtesters played, and they are literal shieldbearers. So, they heard Shaman needed help and helped them, but one year too much. Now, since they spent so much ""work"" on the upcoming cards, they'll still release them as is, regardless of outcry.

>>161201373
Name some other examples. Devolve is another.

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>>161201309
at this point i don't even blame them for wanting to spite this retarded playerbase

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Is this a good arena deck? Think I can get some wins with it?

>>161201630
easy 12 win deck

>>161201531
Attempts at least
Daring Reporter
Toxic Sewer Ooze
The other hogs
Second Rate Bruiser
Burgly Bully
Dirty Rat
Some actual good AOE on multiple classes.

>>161201553
>Over a year later still haven't actually added an animation for roaring torch going into your deck

Balance questions are ultimately somewhat subjective, but Blizzard's technical incompetence is undeniable.

GOYS
THE NEW ROGUE LEGENDARY MAKES SENSE
ALL ROGUE CARDS ARE SHIT SO BEING ABLE TO PLAYING SHAMAN OR PRIESTS RANDOMS IS MUCH BETTER THAN ANY ROGUE CARD
THEY DID IT TO PUSH BURGLE ROGUE FURTHER UP OUR ASSES

>>161201909
okay

>>161201309
it's a 5 mana 10/10 you're only ever going to play well after you've already had 10 mana for a while

>>161201309
They're probably laughing their asses off because people will pay to get assfucked over and over again. At this point it's clear, before you could argue they had no idea how to design a card game, but they keep repeating the same "mistakes".

I was on the fence and almost dropped my shekels for this, but between the rogue cards and this shaman cocksucking, I now know I can't quit this turd they call Hearthstone.

>>161201373
As much as I like the Hogs, especially this one, it is not enough to counter the relevant taunts. It costs five, so it doesn't counter Thing From Below which can cost nothing. It costs one more than Second-rate Bruiser. It trades evenly with White Eyes, but the deathrattle still triggers. The only thing it does really good against is taunt totems and Voidwalkers and that's not enough.

take svg and dng out of your fucking op

>>161201309
Team 5 Development Handy Guide

>develop card
>despite all the backlash and criticism towards it, ignore it and pat yourself on the back
>don't admit you or the Team were wrong
>instead of balancing, start making jokes about the card, that will show your angry playerbase that you "get" them
>6 months later make an uninformed balance patch and ruins the card
>a year later admit in a one-off interview with a random news site that perhaps the card was a problem, but ultimately imply that the "really creative" playerbase is to blame for the cards overuse in the meta
>fuck Zeriyah bareback in your million dollar mansion
>Repeat

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>... except mice.

>>161202746
I fucking love this card.

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>>161199659
>akin to Shadowverse /svg/ and YugiohPro /dng/.
that's right!

>>161202746

I want to grab her by the horns and face-fuck her until I cum up her nose

>>161201891
the funniest thing to me is how they didn't fix the hand bug, they just made it reset the position

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>>161202523
>Team "5 billion dollar sallary" fucks 3rd -tier, used goods like Zeriyah

C'mon anon, even I myself wouldn't touch that manfaced, tomboy STD factory if I got PAID to do so.

>Implying Brode doesn't stick it in pic relateds ass and makes Sofia Vergara wipe it clean with a kleenex between her tits.

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>>161202746
>elements i like, totems i looooove...
>totally!
why are draeneis so great

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Thoughts?

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Claim your Waifu!

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>not switching to a superior card game

>>161203730
Literally unplayable.
You know, because that's not a class color border that exists.

I'm pretty sure Team 5 are shadowverse employees in disguise.

Who here is looking forward to the expansion?

>>161204086
Looking forward to finish my Metalfoes deck and for the D/D/D structure deck

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>>161203838

Why is Shadowverse the only relevant competitor to Hearthstone? Is it (((THAT))) hard to develop a digital card game?
Don't name off all the garbage vaporware card games. I've played them all and they're all dogshit.

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What card do you want to see added to HS?
I want some REAL disruption.

>>161204387
>Is it (((THAT))) hard to develop a digital card game?

It is hard. Making things is usually hard. Blizzard's problem however is that they are COMPLETELY disconnected from their own game. They work in a bubble. When they do try to connect, their ego prevents them.

>>161204387
its quite simple, Shadowverse is developed by ex-magic pros. Basically, Magic would be a real competitor if wizard wanted to, but they dont since they want people to buy the physical products that sell a lot more and for a higher price.

So basically, there's at least a team of devs who know how to play a good card game and how to adapt their ideas and favorite archetype for a simpler online version.

Just look at magic duels, its fine but the instant effects messes with the flow of the game, and they made sure that the game wasn't exactly like magic (rarity difference, not complete sets for each expansion, etc.). Its a good game, but not as "easy/friendly" to play than HS or Shadowverse.

>play n'zoth rogue
>by the time i play n'zoth have 7 hp already
nice fucking game blizzard

>>161199659
>yugioh
>class-based collectible card game

>>161204728
lay N'Zoth decks in wild where you can also play Belcher/Deathlord and healbot if needed. I'm not joking, I switched to wild and Jesus Christ I can actually play real decks.

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>>161204398
>they will never implement actually something new and always a "X mana with Y/Z statline with either battlecry/deathrattle/passive effect" where X could be 2 and Y/Z either 2/3 or 3/2
>they make actual trash cards on purple and put them in the common slot
>aggro will ALWAYS be better than anything fucking else since 1drops are so busted and overstated
>no neutral spells like "shuffle X cards back into your deck and draw the same amount" or some neat effects like that
>"classes" instead of arctypes

Hearthstone could have been so much greater

>>161204784
>he thinks you can share staples between Kozmo, Blue Eyes, Frogs, Hero, Zoodiac, Metalfoes, etc

>he thinks all of these play exactly the same

shut the fuck up frogposter

go back to /pol/, /v/ermin

>>161204387
You misunderstand sv's success. There are/were plenty of good ccg's (mmdoc rip). Sv doesn't depend on the western audience. Card games are actually pretty garbage. Hearthstone would be dead without the blizzard logo.

>>161204828
meant to say purpose and not purple

HOW IS 5 MANA 3/5 WINDFURY ALLOWED

>>161204816
I started playing during WoG. I don't have anything but wog and classic cards. Karazhan is shit

>>161204905
Metalfoe/Kozmo and Hero/Frogs are both legtimate decks m8

>>161204784
didn't you hear that DM Super is introing that filler mechanic to the main game and rebooting everything

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>>161199906
same

>>161204925
ah I see. Well if you ever feel like trying in wild, crafting Belcher would be pretty great and they're "cheap" to do since they're rares.

can someone post the collage of all the rogue cards

>>161204920
>mmdoc
Never saw any discussion about it on 4chin. Game was great before they did all these format thingies.

>>161204387
it's a neglected market
before HS, large developers didn't think it was very fruitful because of demographic problems (ie the m:tg demographic).
HS proved that wrong, but now any new entry has to compete with it.

The recent surge for shadowverse doesn't help the matter, since it basically supports the idea that the market is saturated and the players dissatisfied with HS are the same old undesirable magic demographic.

>>161205015
Thanks anon, I will think about it.

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>>161205020
<-- Basically

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>>161205020
Let's pretend there are no other cards.
Tfw Shaku will be staring at you for whole 2 years from your crafting screen

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>>161205157
kek

>>161205001
They got cards?

>>161204920
Very likely true. But if Blizzard is tagged, it'll live on past when it rots to nothing. Look at Heroes of the Storm. That was some rapid decay, too. But it'll be around for another seven years.

>>161204828
Of course Hearthstone could be so much better. The same could be said of most franchises. Imagine how good Pokemon would be if they actually listened to players. But developers just never do.

>>161204784
Don't trust OP-makers. Also, archetypes are not classes, so shut up anyone who would say that.

>>161204387
because those indie game devs are incompetence just like Team 5

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>>161205142
np. Here's what I'm using for N'Zoth priest.
It could be somewhat expensive to do since Lightbombs are epics (Dr.Boom is not "needed" but helps, the cheaper deathrattles are much more important for the deck).

Its possible to sub a bunch of stuff. For example you could have a resurrection package (the spell and the minion) instead of shredder/dark acolyte. The real deal is deathlord and belcher that just wall you good and of course the lightbomb. Keep in mind that that this is for priest, might be easier to do a wild N'Zoth warrior. Anyways I'm not sure what you like best, but I'm just throwing ideas here.

>>161205295
stop posting this shitty OC

>>161205295
>>161205157
please i need it for reasons

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>>161205373
they just want HS audience

>>161205536
just go on heartpwn or something and do it yourself

>>161204969
Yeah that's the point, I listed a couple of recent Tier 1 decks, other not so much anymore after the new boosters, but all of them play really different, like if they were DIFFERENTE CLASSES

THATS THE WHOLE POINT OF THE POST ANON

WHAT IS WRONG WITH IT

YOURE MAKING ME THIRSTY AND ANGRY

>>161205547
So basically a Demolisher with no attack?

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How many legos are canon characters this time around? Are there any?

>>161200887

Shaman's not going anywhere

>>161199659
> Hearthstone is a class-based collectible card game
Not > Shamanstone is a Shaman-based collectible card game
???
???

>>161205954

For a mana less, can't go face and at the end of the turn instead of start.

>>161206208
I think they said Mayor Noggenfogger would be making an appearance in some fashion and it wouldn't be pure OC but I couldn't source that claim.

>>161206357
Fair enough

>Players make Miracle from Rogue
>FUCK YOU PLAYERS YOU'LL USE PIRATE MINIONS AND LIKE IT

>Players make Mill from Rogue
>FUCK YOU PLAYERS YOU'LL USE DEATHRATTLE MINIONS AND LIKE IT

>Players make Oil from Rogue
>FFFFFFUCK YOU PLAYERS YOU'LL USE STEALTH MINIONS AND FUCK YOU IF YOU DON'T LIKE IT SEE HOW THIS MINION "BURGLES" A "RANDOM" CARD "FROM YOUR OPPONENT'S CLASS"? BE GRATEFUL THAT WE'RE TRYING SO HARD TO GIVE YOU WHAT YOU WANT

Blizzard there is a really clear trend in the kind of decks players want to make with Rogue. Why can't you just fucking play along with what they want?

>>161206653
coin

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It's nice when you finally finish a deck and can start working on making it gold.

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Friend-on-hs-team guy here,

apparently this week's brawl was supposed to summon minions from the class of spell that you played. He said they couldn't fix a small bug so they just sent it out as-is.

Apparently they do this a lot.

Oh and bbrode is on parental leave until January so that's why we haven't seen him in a while

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>>161206653
Well, we have this nigger, too, I guess.

So when are they going to split spells up into only can target minions and only can target heroes? I'm pretty fucking sick of dying on turn 6 to tempo mage or getting double lightning bolted+lava burst

>>161206653

Burgle gives me rag lightlord so fucking often I'm almost 100% certain the card only pulls from a pool instead of the entire class.

>>161206972
never because they don't want to hurt decks based on your feelings

>>161206932
You say that like Brode actually does any work beyond making a shitty 5 minute youtube video when the community reaches a boiling point every few months.


If this game didn't have a warcraft label, it'd be dead before it even got to BRM.

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>>161206208
This card is so god damn creative.
Let's explore the "design space".
We have the following taunts:
Tournament Attendee: 1 mana, 2/1 taunt
Pompous Thespian: 2 mana, 3/2 taunt
Hired Gun: 3 mana, 4/3 taunt <----- the missing link XD
Evil Heckler: 4 mana, 5/4 taunt
???: 5 mana, 6/5 taunt

Guys. GUYS!!! I've found the perfect card for the next expansion! Get on this shit Team 5! Make us proud!

>>161207037

They destroy Rogue decks all the time though.

>>161206941
its fucking dogshit, why is it a fucking lego?

>>161206989
>muh confirmation bias
Sometimes you get Seal of Light or double Divine Favor too.

>>161207093
This thing is probably more exploitable than it looks.

I'm going to experiment with it.

How is SPirit Claws balanced?

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>>161207037
>fireball and frostbolt are in EVERY single mage deck since beta
>guys it's totally fine :^)
I hate Fireball as much as I hated 8 mana pyroblasts

at least Forgotten Torch is kind of interesting. 15 damage from empty board that doubles as removal can just fuck right off.

>>161207093
It's not dogshit, it's basically a free ping at the start of the game if you're running an aggressive list with pirates, and thins your deck.

If it wasn't a legendary, you could summon two of these guys at once and it'd be a crazy tempo advantage.

>>161206941
If this was the Rogue legendary instead of Shaku zero people would complain.

People might claim to complain but they're lying.

>>161207191

Because it will rotate out eventually

>>161207191

You only have a 1 in 4 chance for an overpowered weapon. That's a 75% chance for something weak!!!

>>161207191
Because it only fucks you a quarter of the time

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So I haven't really been following the card reveals. Is the only new dragon one that priest one?

>>161207351
I know you're joking but that's how Blizzard balances shit. They'd rather this game be a virtual casino than an actual competitive game so they print shit like Barnes and Spirit Claws.

>>161207440
Yeah, and everyone is overestimating it like crazy.

>>161207512
That's disappointing. I was really hoping for a warrior dragon, or at least more dragons.

>>161207440
I really don't understand why they even did it
>Rotate all of Priest's dragon cards out
>Give him a dragon card
Ebin

>>161207674
I would really prefer if dragon warrior would fuck right off. If Shaman wasn't tier 0, dragon warrior would be 20% of the ladder

>>161207674
Eh, BRM was the dragon expansion.

But don't worry, you'll see plenty of dragons week one when everyone is playing dragon priest until they realize its just average and everyone realizes midrange shaman lost basically nothing and that druid is even more busted with Jade Idol

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>>161207858
What's the next set to go? BRM right? Also it's disappointing mostly because of the fact that fucking Dragons are the only tribal they were willing to do and now it's going. Like, why, jesus why. Is tribals too complicated? I don't understand, it's a small thing that could make the game a little more interesting.

Also are the only tri class cards for rogue, shammy, druid?

>no warrior jade cards

riperino, this set is seeming pretty weak for me.

>>161207765
I dont get why people dont think that they are adding cards with wild in mind. Just look at all the "reno" stuff. Clearly they are designing the archetypes regardless of the rotation.

Which is great for those who like wild.

>>161207218
They weren't in my duplicate OTK mage
cycling duplicate and echo of medivh dealt a death blow to fun mage decks

>>161208052
>What's the next set to go?
its (all at the same time): BRM, TGT and LoE.Kara, MSoG and the set at that moment

So standard will be WotG,

>>161208052
Everyone has tri class cards.

Honestly the grimy goons seem really boring and have the potential to be really strong in curvestone, which is tragic

next is all of the reno variants that kazakus and potions will enable, which will be more fun i imagine, but are going to be everywhere

jade golems i'm going to have to see in action to judge, but it seems ridiculous in druid

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>Destroy a freeze mage with a KT meme deck.
>He hurts muh feels.

Hurtful dumb, frosty magi scum.

>>161208182
Wait we are losing BRM, TGT, AND LoE all at the same time? Well at least that will shake things up, right?

>>161208295
No, we aren't. Only BRM is rotating.

>>161208292
>magi

>>161208182
>its (all at the same time): BRM, TGT and LoE.Kara, MSoG and the set at that moment
>So standard will be WotG,
My psot fucked up, we lose:
BRM, TGT and LoE
And so standard becomes:
WotG, Kara, MSoG and the set at that moment

>>161207859
Priest actually has two dragon cards this new set which is weird. An AOE kill shit except dargons, and a new dragon. But dragon is fucked so I don't understand.

Who the fuck thought it was a good idea to print cards to encourage rng discards? I'm pretty fucking sick of having a soulfire drop a free 3/3 when a warlock has 5 other cards in hand.

>>161208361
anon plz dont confuse him, we lose the 3 sets at the same time, just like naxx and Gvg rotated out together.

Basically ALL the 2015 sets rotate out

>>161208440
Yeah, both cards are strong, but not close to being able to be dominant.

A lot of people seem to be under the illusion that Dragon Priest is going to be the new cancer, but that is super unlikely.

>>161208361
How the fuck are people still getting this shit wrong.

>On average, it costs $400 to get 95% of all cards in game including legendaries,

This can't be right is it?

>>161208527
Blizzard's target audience isn't the smartest.

>>161208535
Reynad spent over 8k and doesnt have all the golden cards.
But really, you dotn need that, you dont even need all the cards

>>161208460
LaughingPizzaGuy.jpg

>>161208519
I'll be happy if it's a tier two deck instead of tier three honestly. I love dragon priest.

>>161208535
That's pretty cheap for a card game desu and I've played most including shitty ones like Cardfight Vanguard.

A pokemon deck requires minimum 180 just for 3 cards alone. Magic is like 1k/deck depending on the format if you want to be serious. YGO is around 300+ for a top tier meta deck.

My first car cost less than my first tourney deck for Magic.

>>161208361
why do you make things up

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>Enemy Shaman's board has no less than FIVE (5) Totems and a Tunnel Trogg
>Topdeck Mass Dispel
>He concedes instantly

>>161208535
Nigga it costs around 250$ for a standard magic deck right now, which is actually cheaper than a few months ago (400$ before rotation). This is peanuts.

>>161208535
sounds low

>>161208535
It's 450 +/- 50 packs for complete non-gold Classic set, and 250 +/- 50 for each expansion, so figure it out from there.

>>161208768
Have prices dropped that much? back when I was still playing people were dropping 1k on average for a deck but that's also including sideboards.

>>161208841
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post cards you're glad to never see again

>>161208983
>tfw you got into the game after Naxx and GvG rotated out
>tfw you'll never know the joy of a strong demonlock deck in standard

>>161208983
I still play Wild, so I see them all. That being said, they really needed to nerf Mad Scientist and Dr. Boom among others.

How is Kripp so bad at constructed?

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>>161208983
Can't wait to see this gone. Oh wait its evergreen and mages will forever be packing burn that doubles as removal because Blizzard can't into a rotating core set.

>>161208983
I legitimately miss turtle and friends.

>>161208292
>Butthurt shitters insult themselves by insulting the guy they lost to.
Always tickles my sides.

>>161209135
Turtle was only a problem because Voidcaller allowed Zoo to run it alongside Dr. Boom and that shit was infuriating

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>>161208460
i greet you

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Just read some comments on Hearthpwn regarding MSG. These can't be legit comments right? Maybe I'm being a cynical fuck like usual, but all of these "I am exited for >insert card here<" comments seem like something something an underpaid Blizzard intern would be paid to write to "build hype". Kinda like getting paid to write good reviews and rating 4 stars on Yelp or something.

>>161208803

So let's say its 1250 packs for everything, that's 1312$ and I'm not even counting adventures so the 450$ number must be wrong

>>161206208
that pandaren chick

>>161209596
Yep, some of them are Blizzshills

>>161209596
Gotta agree, that looks shady as hell.

>>161209596
Blizzard could legitimately print an entire expansion full of reprints and vanilla minions and people would still be unironically hyped for it.

Blizzard could shit on a plate and serve it to someone like Kibler and his fanbase would look forward to it.

>>161209596
I dunno, people were shilling the fuck out of Jade Rogue on here for days. I can't imagine Blizzard cares enough about us to pay people to shill on here.

>>161209674
You could reach 95-100% common/rare completion much much earlier than that. That's just for a 2/2/2/1 of everything complete set.

>>161209769
Yeah I'm actually thinking of quitting for real this time. This is the worst expansion by far imo. No hyperbole. A bunch of Classic cards, but with slightly different numbers, the Tri-class Gangs theme kills the identity of classes even further (and the mechanics are really boring), Rogues get absolute garbage, and it's obvious that Team 5 will never actually get better.

>>161210082
I can't even play more than a game or two when I actually feel compelled to load up Hearthstone.

If I still feel that way during the first week when the ladder is in its more interesting state, I plan to quit.

>>161209982
>people were shilling the fuck out of Jade Rogue on here for days
that was probably me

Did you know you can win any match against rogue just by hitting her face since she is too slow to kill you first and is not allowed to defend herself?

>>161210235
>All the new quests require considerably more time investment than the old ones.

why lord

>>161209982

Yes I'm saying a complete set with 2/2/2/1 of everything.

>>161208803

How did you get those numbers tho?

>>161210287
I think you're trolling or salty but this is legitimate advice for arena.

Rogue needs to use their weapons to pick up tempo and value, and pressuring their health early can turn off their hero power and weapons pretty well.

>>161210293
It took me a fucking week to finish the murloc quest using a deck a paladin zoo murloc deck. A week using a deck with 8 murlocs in it. That's how difficult it is for me to play this game right now.

>>161209130
good

>>161210546

~You can do that quest in 1 game or two you fat fuck. Just go to your collection write "Murloc" and dump everything in. Wow that was hard.

>>161204287
Second.

>>161210637
>75 murlocs
>not even 30 murlocs in the game
>still thinks you can do it 1-2 games

I haven't even finished my 3 win victory mage quest and I got that one on Wednesday. I spend more time bitching about this game than I do playing it.

>>161210752

Kys

Just reroll your murloc quest then lmao

>>161210375
There was actual statistical analysis done at one point with Classic and GVG packs needed to get the cards + dust needed to finish the sets. It should still apply.

>>161210273
Have you come to the conclusion that it's really boring and probably really sucks?

>>161199659
Cards whose existence is fucking confusing and pointless to you

I'm nominating Beardo since Coldarra Drake is a thing in a class with a powerful hero power and the ability to make combos happen and it still never took off.

Literally what were they thinking with this pack filler?

Toxic Sewer Ooze is a close second. This card is worse than Acidic Swamp ooze in every conceivable way and I'm including it's statline, since the goddamn thing trades down with 2 drops.

>>161210451
>weapons
I don't think I understand

>>161210637
Not him but that's how I complete most of my quests now. There are so many "play X type cards" quests that my Hearthstone routine is to just load up a Wild Deck with cards that have the lowest mana cost while fitting X's criteria. Then I queue up in Wild Casual against retards that take fucking forever to finish their turns because they insist on maximizing their mana usage and making perfect trades just incase I suddenly decide to start hitting their face or something. After like 5 matches, I'm finally done with these shitty quests, and I log off.

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>>161210873
I have a hunch this is going to be an omen of the expansion. It's going to be great for 3 days when everyone is fucking around with homebrews then it'll be curvestone on steroids while midrange shaman players jerk themselves off at their >2000 legend rank

>>161211071
Ferryman is pretty exploitable and will at least have a home in arena.

Why the fuck does blizzard love shamans so much their legendary is actually great and can work as a stand alone card instead of say the rogue's legendary which requires you to run some gimmicky 4 drop for it t not die instantly

>>161211116
We have Youthful Brewmaster. Why the fuck is this card even printed as a class card.

>>161211116
It's Youthful Brewmaster with flipped stats and an added requirement.

>>161210873
One thing for the Ooze 2.0, at least, is that it is a three-drop and thus can be discovered off of scarab. It's garbage, but you know some games will be decided by that.

One card that really baffles me is Madam Goya because it has such a similar effect as Barnes, something that sees a huge amount of play. The only thing she has going for her is that she cycles battlecries, if you can draw them again, and gives the minion its full stats. Outside of that, she's a significantly worse Barnes. Also, people play Barnes because of the effect of the minion, not the stats. I can't imagine they would change that for Goya. I don't know. It doesn't even work with Jade Golems since you won't have any in your deck.

>>161211071
I still don't get the hate for this card. It sucks, but the flexibility is kinda interesting, as well as offering redundancy for the grinder rogue archetypes that would probably run 4x panda if they could.

If anything, I'd be angry at all the other non-coin Rogue cards that are either pushing midrange-curve or burgle.

>>161211220
>an added requirement
this evens out with the fact that you can do a tempo play without bounce if needed

>>161211164
Because these cards had been designed before Metzen retired

>>161211257

>Madam Goya is a bad card

Screencap this someone please.

See you in a few weeks when 80% of the decks are jade golem decks and they all run this card.

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>>161211190
>>161211220
You mean you guys don't want to play a River Croc for tempo? I am both shocked and appalled that you don't want to play such a great card!

>>161209596
To be fair, memeakus and ink are the only remotely interesting things in the shitheap

>>161211450
>Screencap this someone please
Don't worry, the prediction poll is coming on Monday. We'll have plenty of self-reflection in the coming weeks.

>>161211450
>play White Eyes
>activate deathrattle
>summon Totem
>play Goya
>shuffle Totem in deck, pull out Storm Guardian
like, Goya may pull out a card you don't want but if you build your deck right she'll probably be real powerful

>>161211450
Meh.

Druid will be the only Golem deck on ladder, and even then it might be way worse than Maly/Yogg/Token. Jade Rogue won't even be a meme deck and Jade cards are too low quality for Shamans to build around.

I'll save you the embarrassment of having to look at your words again in a few weeks.

>>161210873
>Beardo
what is this card again i forgot if that card even exists

>>161211450
Well, why do you think it's such a good card, particularly with Jade Golem. You can't have any Golems in your deck without something wacky happening, so all she can do is return a Golem and maybe get a deathrattle minion with the Golem generation effect. I just don't see how it's any good, especially with Jade Golems.


Explain to me why you think it's good rather than just act like Blizzard and say "lol you'll have to trust me I'm pretty good."

>>161210848
>Have you come to the conclusion that it's really boring and probably really sucks?
I'll have to test it first, but golem bouncing seems fun.

What is the appeal of Kripp? All he does is get salty when he doesn't get lucky.

>>161211658
Deal 4 damage and summon Jade Golem for 4 mana is a good card on its own. It's a Goblin Blastmage of Jade Shaman.

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Rate my balanced rogue OC.

>>161211748
I think anon meant midrange/control shaman is too good to even bother with playing jade golems

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>coin 5/5 taunt on turn 4
>draw and play 10/10 taunt on turn 5

>>161211525
It's just the way the comments are written. They are all basically the same comment, but worded slightly differently. Like there's "normal" looking comments, then a stretch of like a dozen comments that average out to like 6 words each, saying how they are excited for a single card.

>>161211783
How about just "Combo: Stealth"

>>161211748
The other cards are just too low quality. Shaman already has 5-10 borderline cards that are >literally unplayable because of how much good shit they have. If you think they're going to play off-curve garbage to fit in a mediocre single target removal, you're crazy.

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Think about it: Taunt... c'thun

>>161211815
Johnny loves to play with suboptimal cards for flavor and Jade Shaman looks like a decent deck.

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>>161211783
looks great

>>161211783
why does this meme feel so forced

>>161211748
>Goblin Blastmage
This is 4 damage to a single target though. More like a Shadowbolt with a 1 mana Golem tacked on.

>>161211783
i have a rogue card still on the drawing board lmk if its worth making:
razorfen raptor ninja
2 Mana 3/2 Beast
Battlecry: Your mom dies in her sleep.
Combo: She does not die in her sleep.

>>161212068
Because Team 5 forced it.

>>161212086
I meant 4 mana class card (4 mana cards are Blizzard fetish) that enables the whole deck and raises it over alternatives from other classes

>>161212063
THAT'S THE JOKE!!!
XDXDXD

>>161212229
xd

>>161211670
>>161211658
>>161211648
>>161211580

:.DDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD I thought madam Goya was the one that creates two jade golems

sorry guys

yes that one is shit, carry on

>>161212205
> Team 5 is so bad at designing cards, even their shitty cards' memes are bad and quickly become stale.
I believe it.

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I haven't forgotten

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>>161207069
>tfw this card was your best card in your first starting decks
>will never see play ever again

>>161212309
This shitty meme was dead on arrival

>combo: this card becomes a card that is already in the game XD!!! so fenny!

>>161212060
>Jade Shaman looks like a decent deck
Does it really though? It looks abysmal to me. If Jade Rogue didn't exist, I'd say it's probably the worst of all the new archetypes, and that's even with it still being a fucking Shaman.

You have to remember that putting garbage cards into a deck means taking good ones out.

Druids can do Druid things and ignore that, but even Shamans can't afford to play garbage.

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>>161212302

I thought it was this one, they both look the same anyways

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>>161201309
>every single update is 2gigs because team five is full of frothing retards
They're so fucking stupid, they refuse to admit their retardation on every level of game development

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>>161212346
It was always a shit card along with Booty Bay Bodyguard, which is kind of a shame because they're both thematically cool, but still inferior to Senjin Fucking Shieldmasta.

That reminds me that when I starded the game I wanted to make a deck full of Trolls & Orcs because muh Horde, but that also is a horribly unviable idea.

>>161212519
Dude. Racist.

>>161212401
You can thank Team 5 for being responsible for it.

>>161212598
Oh man, I loved taz'dingo. I'm glad he is found some play in a recent renolock deck I made. I kinda wish they added more horde and alliance cards just for the sole purpose to create shitty, fun decks.

>>161212480
Yep, it looks like a decent deck

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>>161212346
>Read the comment
>Die a little
>See the pic
>Die a little more

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Can't wait until he fucks off to the wild bin
Sick of the crazy burst he enables

>>161213387
he enables combo decks, and those counter control mainly

Basically aggro will gain from him leaving. fuck

>>161199659
How about this, everyone say something NICE about White Eyes.

>>161213531
It is a good card and will be welcomed with open arms once Tunnel Trogg and Totem Golem are rotated out.

>>161213531
He is a big guy with a big heart

>>161213630
>welcomed with open arms
No, fuck shaman forever

>>161213525
if it helps counter control, why would aggro gain?

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>shaman is about to get paladin'd
>preist is about to get shaman'd
Why is team 5 so fucking dogshit at balancing?

>>161213856
because control deck usually can deal with aggro

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>>161212480
>>161212917
i play a lot of control shaman and as of right now the jade package doesn't look even close to viable (with currently revealed cards)
the stat penalty is gigantic, far worse than cthun cultists, so we need high-quality fuel to guarantee a strong enough ramp in stats
pic related will be the engine of jade druid decks, and shaman needs something similar

right now we already have the pile-of-stats approach available via dragons and earth eles/bog creepers/ancestral/etc, so the jades will have to be able to put out that much or more

jade shaman would also struggle to find a place in the meta
it will autolose to almost any combo deck, and it'll probably end up eating shit against aggro as well considering the number of cards that will need to be cut to fit a massive jade package
which means it'll be limited to an anti-control and anti-midrange role: sounds good if mid shaman and dragon priest are on top, but who knows what the meta will be like

we still have something like 20 or 30 cards to go though so i guess we'll see

>>161213895
Shaman looks as strong as ever

>>161214072
Standard is about to hit them on the ass (not enough), that's what I mean.

>>161213630
It's a reasonable value card that benefits slow decks without sacrificing your early game, but it also does not give a massive immediate threat like say Fandral does. Unless you draw the 10/10 immediately it's not a huge threat.

If Shaman wasn't already so strong it would be pretty well received, however as it stands it's just extra value in a already high value and tempo class.

>Undertake Hunter
>Patron Warrior
>Secret Pally
>"Midrange" Shaman
>MSG Priest?
Alright, so who's up next to get a chance to be "balanced"? Rogues, Mages, Warlocks, or Druids?

>>161213942
what

emperor leaving makes combo decks worse
combo decks counter control
control counters aggro

this makes control stronger which makes aggro weaker

>>161214049
The answer is not to go full retarded with Jade theme. Jade Lightning is a reasonable card and doesn't have stat penalty at all. 1/1 Deal 4 damage to any character is horribly stated to you? It's no TFB but get real.

>>161214129
Rotation will hit the next set after MSG in 2017

>>161214049
Jade Shaman might not be the best thing, but Jinyu Waterspeaker, Devolve and White Eyes are good enough to be included in midrange decks which are going to continue being #1 due to time Tunnel Trogg, Totem Golem and Thunderbluff Valiant until the next set comes out which is at least 4 more months.

>>161214148
druid has always been balanced

>>161211071

Why the actual FUCK would I ever use this when I can use Y.Brew or Shadowstep?

How is the new expansion looking guys. I left the game shortly after karazhan because it didn't bring any new meta. Beast druid/totem shaman/zoobot decks were all duds. Will this bring new viable decks to the meta?

>>161214637
There's a good possibility that it might because it's bringing some Old Gods tier deck synergy.

>>161214637
I don't want to talk about it. But yeah, there will be many new decks.

>>161214637
It looks terrible

>>161214637
it's good as long as you're not rogue

>>161212310
>the only reason for Blizzard to space out the card reveals so much is to avoid a big anger spike that makes everyone finally quit hearthstone

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>Have 23 health and SIXTY (60) armor
>Priest makes a 107/107 and dispels my whole board in one turn
Inner Fire needs to be removed and Mass Dispel needs a nerf. This is the last class that needed buffs.
>Draw Inner Fire early? 5 mana 7/7 with no drawback!
>Draw it late? Instant win!
>Counterplay? What's that? Did you mean Mass Dispel?

>>161214979
>Inner Fire needs to be removed
are you literally a shieldbearer

>>161214979
Please leave. You are not welcome here. If you don't respect Inner Fire, you're no TRUE PLAYER.

>>161215020
>Control warrior gets memed on by IF priest
He's probably rank 25.

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>>161214979
>play cucktrol
>lose
well deserved

>>161214236
jade package will need to be large enough since none of the cards are worth running on their own
4 mana 4 damage +a 1/1 might be good if there was no other options
but right now it needs to compete with stormcrack, which it doesn't come close to without a lot of synergy

>>161214363
i suspect people around here think waterspeaker is good because they're rogue mains who have to make do with cards like farseer and vendor.
in shaman we have excellent healing already for any deck that needs it, waterspeaker will see zero play before healing wave rotates

devolve will be played in any deck that would play earth shock: this doesn't include mid shaman in standard (not enough targets in to justify holding a reactive card instead of another high-quality threat)

as for white eyes, get a grip, he's slower than ysera
not a midrange card in any way, shape, or form

Hope you have 1600 dust to craft black Knight goyim

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>>161215123

>>161215245
how often do you retards think you'll see the 10/10 taunt? on average it probably won't even show up until the ~20th card in their deck

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>>161214979
>Priest keeps buffing a single minion
>Also holding 4 cards for half the game
>Also seems extremely concerned with keeping that minion in peak condition despite it not doing much of anything
>Hmm... I wonder what he could be doing...
I hope Blizzard makes a Priest legendary that's a 9 mana 0/30 charge, just for people like you.

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>>161215123
>cuck

>>161214979
>Priest makes a 107/107
How does this even happen? There's only two Inner Fires in the game

>>161215370
(You)

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>>161215245
just got it from brawl pack

>>161215316

most games these days let you draw half your deck, if lotus and kabal work out that'll continue being the norm

>>161215179
The thing about midrange shaman is that it can play control against control and grind it out when it needs to. Hero power pass, totems and spirit claws and the threat of thunder bluff buffs to extend out the time, and in those matches White Eyes is a definite asset, and in the aggressive ones, he's barely a liability if at all.

>>161215245

>implying I ever disenchanted it in the first place

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>>161215383
This guy would have had to be literally retarded. My best guess is a Dragonkin Sorcerer with 2 PW: Shields and PW: Tentacles, which makes it extra retarded because he let it happen over at least 3 turns as a class with a 2 mana Assassinate.

>>161215316
You dont have to use it on the 10/10 fag you can also use it on the 5/5, both of them are great results.
No to mention you could still hit a wolf with it or a 0 mana 5/5 with it

>>161214979
to be fair to this anon, DS/IF would be completely absurd if priest had access to windfury or high-quality charge minions
but they don't
if you leave up an eerie statue and get OTKd, consider that a lesson learned

>>161215512
not to mention the still-unnerfed shield slam

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Has Team 85 run of ideas?

So far except for the Craft your own spell guy, everything is fairly boring.

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I'm too drunk to do this right now. someone needs to help me

>>161215637
New Priest card:
>5 mana 1/4
>Windfury
>Charge

People would still fall for it and get OTK'd.

>>161215896
Drunk hearthstone stories?
I once made a n'zoth rogue and climbed 3 ranks with it, but in the morning i noticed there was no n'zoth in it

>>161216101
>>161215896
welp I lost already. overextended into a warlocks twisting nether. should have seen it coming lol

>WAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHH rogue sucks!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

>play journey below
>pick anubarak

>automatically permanently effortlessly win against any (ANY) control deck that doesn't have polymorph, hex, entomb, or a silence

And since you dumbshits will think that's not very good let me remind you which control deck meets that criteria: WARRIOR YOU FUCKING IDIOTS STOP CRYING

>>161216174
>Control deck with no removal
You sound like the 60 armor guy who let a Priest buff a minion 3 turns in a row then wondered why you lost.

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>>161216092
There's always this guy.

>>161216293
The keypoint is Windfury, which lets it deal 32 damage in a single turn from hand against people too stupid to see a Priest hoarding cards.

>>161216170
11 is nice too, anon. :^)

>>161216262

>execute and shield slam are not removal

explain yourself

Wait, don't. I'll explain it to you: SILENCE/TRANSFORM ARE THE ONLY REMOVAL EFFECTS THAT WORK ON THAT CARD BUT YOU LITTLE BABIES CRY ABOUT ROGUE ANYWAY

>>161216370
Show me on the doll where Anubarak touched you.

>>161216461

checked your meme, but please at least include dubs or a reaction image next time. your shit is weak.

now, are you ready to talk about how wrong everyone is about rogue?

>>161216550
dude, your point is irrelevant
warriors will be 5-10% of the ladder because of priest buffs.
Shaman is going to be uncontested for 1st spot, mages and hunters will be going all right as always.
Rogue already preys on slower decks, don't turn this game into some fucked up rock-paper-scissors game

>>161216293
>Charge with 1 damage
>Also a Taunt
I have no clue why but this always bothered me

>>161216837
I really like him for whatever reason.

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>>161216370
>Remove Anubarak
>Rogue wastes a turn placing him down again
>Repeat until board clear is needed

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>>161204387
hearthstone runs on unity, this should already explain itself

when you look at hearthstone from a development view. Team 5 is literally autistic, spectator bugs still there FROM YEARS ago, the game still runs slow as shit at the start and lags and random times. Game runs slow until all animations are rendered.

Collection manager still has visual bugs, text on cards not all the same format/spelling

like jesus, I guess Team 5 is focused on pumping out content for $$

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>turn one tunnel trogg
>turn two totem golem
>turn three flametounge totem
>turn 4 barns into white eyes
>turn 5 FIVE MANA TEN TEN
Aren't you enthralled for this expansion?

>>161217173

dope dude! Nice neurons you got there!

I got one more question for you, which one is more infinite or finite?

>>161217246
The Rogue's hitpoints.

>>161217246
>Control Warrior LITERALLY does not know how to deal damage in any way other than Fatigue
CAN'T
MAKE
THIS
SHIT
UP

>>161217252
>cucktrol
>dealing damage
pick one

>>161217330
just shield slam face

>>161217410
Only way that's happening is if they have a Wrathguard, bro.

>>161217560
>him

>>161217246
>Control deck with no lategame damage other than fatigue
>No milling options either
Only warriors could be this dim-witted.

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>be playing rock paper scissors
>using my scissors deck
>keep facing rock and losing
>switch to paper to counter rock
>face nothing but scissors
STORIES TO TELL YOUR FRIENDS

>Shaman literally has a 4 mana 7/7 and a 5 mana 10/10 taunt
>Doesn't use them because he has a 1 mana ∞/3 and a 0 mana 5/5 taunt

>>161218267
F O R C E D F I F T Y

>>161218314
Thrall is just a kid with rich parents on christmas.

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>Kripp so fed up of arena he'd rather play shamans in ranked

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Why is blizzard going hard on the Pandaria theme if this expansion is supposed to be gadgetzan themed?

>>161218623
Triad.
It's organized crime theme, not really gadzetzan at all

>>161218314
stop this meme, learn how good decks are actually built

477s are great, but they get cut because taking risks is stupid when you're favored against everyone

and white eyes is an extremely slow control card that does not belong in a midrange or aggro shaman deck, any more than anubarak belongs in miracle rogue

think and shitpost with more meaning next time

>>161218715
Fuck off, professional shaman player

>>161202475
TFB still costs 5 on board.

>>161218623

pandaring to the chinese market

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>>161218715
That was literally the exact content of my post. Shaman has insane cards that he doesn't run because he has even better cards that carry less risk.

>>161218786
TFB costs 6 on board and 0 mana in hand

>>161199894
>reminder that /hsg/ is just as horny as /svg/ but with real women

Wew lads
https://www.reddit.com/r/hearthstone/comments/5f4ds9/ive_boosted_100000_fake_viewers_in_hearthstone_im/

>>161215774

name one card game that manages to produce meaningful and interesting cards, while also creating new mechanics every expansion.

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I am kind of excited about this new expansion

>>161219104
Mtg
Netrunner

>>161219071
>I won’t be revealing my customers whom I handled due to legal reasons
Oh wow, it's fucking nothing.

>>161219138
tbqh if Blizz can pull off a controlish meta, combo decks might see more play

>>161219104
Pretty much every single one except Hearthstone. That's not even a joke.

Why is casual such a shit show?
>play a shitty murloc pally cause if the quest
>pirate warrrior
>midrange shaman
>aggro shaman
>tempo mage
>secret again
Why don't they play those on ladder? I can't find any reason

>>161219267
grinding gold
also because they reached rank 5 and it doesnt matter past that point since you dont get better rewards