Shadowverse is a game
The Steam version launched on October 28th.
Platforms: iOS, Android, Steam (http://store.steampowered.com/app/453480/)
Official Website:
https://shadowverse.com/
Card Database / Deck Editor:
https://shadowverse-portal.com/
Intro Guide/FAQ:
http://pastebin.com/xNmQuDzR (read this if you're new)
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Ibw62rcFMrkvWl_KPKUuRC_0f7LbvwE27ubQ-EJo0oQ/edit?usp=sharing
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=799676100
Take 2 Card Rankings:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1k55fDS9LpX66H-pm5EgGouqwQSCF-sje-o5UwrXUwdI/htmlview#
Get your cheat sheets here: http://imgur.com/a/Dpbmh
Friend list:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1DKn9RybTNTQ3a8cm-68KvDOHCFBRK8VDD2JVO8HTUWg/edit?usp=sharing
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https://mega.nz/#!tl1mGaIQ
Decryption key: !tsu910nR6lT_xTQAx9QUNI_96DLJ0mvgIwwThp5lPS4
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Artwork of all the cards, ripped from the game:
https://mega.nz/#!ekIjXaza!qKXIP9x0tZ5ooNDXk-HHudlUBiZR_Zt3pmF4PhYMxrI
Come here if you want to search for card artworks:
http://www.corpetit.com/public/rage_of_bahamut/
Search by artists:
http://seesaawiki.jp/mnga_bahamut/
A growing collection of animated golds/legendaries:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1QUpZN9cgz0dvh637EYl5Pcx7PkXJlpufIL9Muc08jB8/edit#gid=1781390872
Executed: >>161230559
new meta
Idols Evolved, the new Shadowverse expansion!
I keep turning out of cards as dragoncraft after turn 8-10. I have dragon consult, but i never draw it in time. Is there a way to keep having cards in hand after turn 9+? Or do i just have to kill them before i run out of steam.
>>161249041
Play a better craft.
Filling Luna's tight anus with sperm
>>161248950
Where's my ranko leader, Cyagames?
>>161249190
Would she be shadow or blood?
>>161249284
blood from when I tear her hymen
reminder that this thread was created by the same person who did this a few days back
http://imgur.com/a/y4v9i
he also created this thread too early again
sage and report
>>161248927
>Satan Haven
>New
You're the only new one here
>>161249284
Koume would be locked into Shadowcraft since her class was literal Necromancer. Ranko would be Haven imo
>>161249284
knowing Ranko, she would rather use both at the same time.
>>161249190
>>161249284
Slutcraft
If you are interested in playing in a tournament with /svg/ players, please register below.
http://challonge.com/tournaments/signup/47fd64TuEx 7:00 pm EST, Friday December 2nd. BO3 Single elim.
If there is enough interest in /svg/ hosted tournaments, I will offer steam cards to winners in the future.
I'm so sick and tired of all these Liza shitposts. If you literally played any CCG in your life that isn't shitstone, you'd know EXACT wording matters.
Can Eris do it?
when?
how about instead of nerfing cardsthey inact card limits
>>161249439
>Ranko would be Haven imo
B-b-but the fallen angel, the princess of darkness and... yeah she is Havencraft,
>>161249343
>Actually taking the time to make that image
That's some intense autism.
>>161249607
Bit too fat for Shadowverse desu
>>161249568
maybe. Ganbatte
>>161249284
>>161249441
Blood.
She's actually scared of ghost/skeleton.
>>161249568
I was at the same spot today, and Iran into a 10/10 master of the canopies who destroyed me
Cygames should remove shadow from the game. We need space for real and playable crafts.
Alright, so GamePress mentioned that only two cards can stop Enstatued Seraph. What cards are those? Also, tips on trying to win with this card around.
>>161249650
that album took me less than 10 minutes to put together
it was a lot less time than it took you to spam for a couple hours
>>161249827
Odin and Execution?
>>161249838
Nah. I just copy and pasted some blanket statements while playing hearthstone.
Glad I made you mad though. Looks like I win.
>>161249827
Odin?
>>161249827
Petrify and Odin
Move to the real thread >>161249248
>>161249905
>execution
off yourself faggot
>>161249908
You looked plenty mad in those screencaps my man
>>161249945
oh right it destroys, not banishes
maybe you should kill yourself since you're getting upset over shit like this
>tfw can't stop buying packs when I should really be saving for T2.
>>161249396
>haven
Are you blind? Its forestcraft retard.
why even bother with wards in this game when there's about 28 ways to bypass or clear them
>>161250023
>>161249908
Are you by chance polish? I remember that one faggot from polish threads on /int/ who later threatened to kill himself and ran away for two days.
>>161249681
>>161249706
Nope, got fucked by a topdeck Mordecai into topdeck Olivia. Honestly some fucking garbage.
Ah well.
>>161248950
When was this? Its not on Steam >:
>>161250126
get cucked dirty sanchez
>>161250126
lmao2gil
>>161249518
I've never played an CCG at all anon and I wasn't shitposting sorry. I'm just salty is all. I promise not to do it againuntil the next loss streak at least.
I guess I'm playing sword now.
>>161250149
I'm from Japan.
>>161250023
That doesn't sound mad at all. Not mad enough to take time out of my day creating a picture gallery for someone making a thread early, that's for sure.
But hey, we're using my thread now. I win. Cheerio.
>>161250421
It's cool man just get into reading every card you run into that you don't know.
>thread wars again
inb4 some other autist makes a new /hsg/ general with tumblrshit.jpg to get back at this autistic OP.
>>161250198
It's in our hearts
>>161250542
It wasn't me who spammed his meme thread for over an hour ;)
>>161250497
you still need the other 9 legos for the real swordfu deck
>>161250586
What does Hearthstone have to do with this?
>Take my blade of resentment.
What did she mean by this?
>>161250542
it's clearly not about making a thread early though, it's about the intense amount of butthurt spam you made for a couple hours
that said this thread isn't as obnoxious so it's actually fine that we're using it
>>161250742
Autist from /hsg/ doesn't like the fact we have /hsg/ in OP.
>>161250792
>that said this thread isn't as obnoxious
It's literally the same thread.
>>161250742
see https://boards.fireden.net/vg/search/text/160744038/ for the last time this happened
Some joker will just put back in /hsg/ just to spite this guy, so I don't get it.
>>161250742
The OP of this thread hates shadowverse and breaks rules. Makes threads way before autosage and spams to try and get other threads removed.
>>161250586
>Last Words: Summon a /svg/ - Shadowverse General.
At least this time I gonna never forget.
>>161250935
>The OP of this thread hates shadowverse and breaks rules.
Nah.
Thread WAR
Need a concede
58027
>>161248950
Would Aiko be a lovely and pure Forestcraft girl?
this game is entirely luck
you could have a 10/10 deck for your playstyle, but you'll get first turn and draw nothing playable for the first 2 turns, while the enemy gets exactly what he needs and started second
>>161250542
You were mad enough to take time out of your day to spam up a general you don't like though
That and you got mad enough to come create a new thread for us again
Idk dude you sound like you have problems
Have you made your waifu proud today?
need a surrender
17187
>>161251101
Nah, not really.
Sorry I made you so angry.
I need a concede.
Match ID: 91072
Will concede back for you if you also need it.
>>161251095
That's the bad draw of starting first.
How do we fix the 1st vs 2nd divide?
Stop talking about the game and start talking about the thread war
>>161251309
Print better 5 drop evolve cards
>>161249343
>"I'm gonna teach those assholes a lesson"
>"By making the thread for them!"
>"Boy that'll show them"
>>161250846
Why do we even want /hsg/ in the OP anyway?
This is the better game, if anything /hsg/ should have /svg/ in theirs.
>>161251223
thanks lolibat
>>161251376
They do.
>>161251223
T-thanks anon.
>>161251356
What about Arena imbalance though?
>>161250421
This wasn't just, because of you. We've been having "Liza is bugged/isn't working/is shit" posts for almost every thread since DE was released. The people who double down on their stupidity and refuse to concede the fact that they're not reading the card right are reason this triggers me.
>>161251359
Because then 1/4 the thread can be dedicated to talking about the thread drama
>>161251376
It started as bait/joke, and it worked too well and attracted this dude.
Now people do it just to provoke him further.
Would Pascale be better if she buffed on Fanfare instead of turn end?
>>161251309
Both players get 3 evolves.
>>161251464
Both players should only 2 orbs in arena.
>>161251464
No one cares about arena balance. In every ccg.
Liza is an amazing card and her legs deserve to be licked and slurped unrelentingly
just fuck my shit up slowly: the deck
my only "attack" card is remi, ptp is never ready and golems have a 10% chance to survive a turn
help me fix this piece of cunt or I'm joining the storm haven / elana / tempo ptp elf / midrange sword cancer
>>161251543
>Let's turn one of the few honest decks out there into more burst degeneracy
Pascale is fine, dirt rune just needs more consistent sigil generation or sigil tutors.
>you're fucked against Elana if you're not Forest or Dshift
Nice.
Smiles and optimism, gone.
>>161251518
I've only been here twice.
I'm flattered, but you dumb weebs aren't doing this for me.
I'm guessing it's out of jealousy, maybe?
>didn't get a leg in last 20 packs
>>161251779
Anything control beats pure elana fine
How do you guys feel about Glimmering Wings? Running it as a 1 of currently.
>>161251095
Stop making deck with top heavy mana
>>161251779
You're fucked if you're not Forest period. Unless you're some kind of sub AA shitter where other decks actually get played.
>>161251696
You have no real win condition without Pascale. Why the fuck are you only running 2 and 1 Ancient? They're literally the best cards in the deck. Drop Fissues, Workshop, Golem Protection. Max Remi, max Ancient, get 1 more Juno, max Crafty, get Unicas or Levis , drop some Prices. Play Satan or Olivia if you have them, they're good alternate wincons to Pascale. 3 Pascale is a must for the deck, otherwise you have no threats.
>>161251840
free 1000 vials m8
>>161251095
>you could have a 10/10 deck for your playstyle, but you'll get first turn and draw nothing playable for the first 2 turns
There are viable decks in this game that have zero turn 1 cards and only a couple for turn 2
>>161251779
I feel fucked as forest too. Feels like you're on a timer no matter what deck you play.
>>161251779
you're only fucked if they get a 3rd turn elana
that's pretty much the only time i straight concede
>>161252027
I'd rather have a lego I could use so I wouldn't need to burn 3.5k to make one.
Surely the new expansion will make beast dominator useful, right?
Some punk just got out skilled HARD.
Almost felt bad for him, but it's his fault for playing ranked.
>>161252017
different person here, also made a similar deck.
I know I'm missing a bunch of stuff, but this is what I got with what I have.
What should be a priority to obtain first?
>>161251927
>play aggro or lose
K
>>161251669
>tfw you will never pass her between your orc bros as her forest burns around her
>>161252313
being an orc must be pretty fun
>>161252032
Forest have a lot of early drops, m8.
>>161251779
Without running Seraph: DShift, Seraph Haven, Control Sword, Banner Sword, Face Dragon, Aggro Bats, and Control Blood all beat Elana. Pure Seraph also beats the Hybrid since it's slightly more consistent. I forgot what the Tempo match-up is like but I know PtP is favored.
Elana is best against bumbling midrange decks and aggro decks that solely rely on mid-late game burst, like aggro Shadow. So Mid Sword, every Shadow deck, and Storm Haven get destroyed by Elana.
Basically stop playing fucking cancer or being a pedo and you'll see Elana isn't that bad.
If someone would please be so kind.
40447
>>161249827
Odin for 8 mana
Petrification for 3 mana
Shadowy Witch for 6 mana and I think an Earth Rite
>>161252250
If you're doing earth rite I'd rather go PtP instead.
Winning with pascale is tricky and might bite you back against dshift, elana/seraph and other PtP shitters.
>>161252161
>3x elanas
Is that you?
>>161252390
t. Elana main
>>161252250
Your priority isn't adding, but removing. You have too many mediocre cards in a deck that's crippled with consistency issues.
Max Crafty, like this card is always at 3 no matter what list of dirt Rune you run. Drop Apprentice, she's just mediocre, and not worth wasting a sigil. Run Unica or more Levi in her place. Red-Hot is the best earth sigil, literally always at 3. Max Petrification, and drop all Shadow Witches. Drop Master Alchemist, and max Ancient Alchemist. Drop Workshops, and an Olivia, get Hands of Fate and 1 more Juno (1 is not enough, you'll never draw it consistently).
Notice a pattern? You max your powerful, no nonsense cards, and minimize the gimmicks. You also run card draw, because earth Rune needs to have both sigils and sigil users at once. Run a Merlin if have 1, she works nicely with the 3 Hands draw engine.
>>161252539
I'm planning on adding a Satan after I get a third Pacale, will probably replace one of the Olivias.I hate ptp and refuse to play it
>>161252418
Thank you very much.
>>161252543
he meant playing it as soon as you can.
>>161249041
Make sure you're curve is not too low
Save oracles for 7+ mana unless you get them early
Need a private match win.
98428.
Concede or fight it out, whichever you prefer.
>>161252390
>Banner Sword, Face Dragon, Aggro bats and Control Blood
I refuse to believe this unless you provide statistics, simply because Elana can easily wipe your board and make you run out of steam the fastest out of any other class.
>otohime in banner
Is this an actual deck people run?
Why the fuck is Banner considered a commander?
>>161252265
>lets put a bunch of 5/6/7 mana cards in the deck! Surely nothing will go wrong!
K kiddo
>>161252539
Not that guy but I tried an earth rite PTO and the shadow generation is so slow we
Some games I would (miraculously) reach turn 10 with barely 20 shadows because I almost never survive past turn 6-8
76822
>>161252791
Because a banner is a great morale booster.
>>161252752
>wipe your board
>after she's already almost dead
And you finish her with reach or flood the board again.
Assuming she even lives that long.
Why do all the shitters somehow think themis is anti-aggro
>>161252791
>Why the fuck is Banner considered a commander?
Although it doesn't make sense logically it'd be really fucking bad if it wasn't a commander
It's basically a commander so they can draw it with maid
18 more to go. Reward was 50 vials + 200 rupees, but I can't really be mad after winning with dick like this.
>>161252751
Thanks, friend.
>>161252791
Because it would be unplayable garbage otherwise.
>>161252897
and for storm
>>161252791
Banner carries actually have a commander status to give orders and help the commanders of the battle
>>161252770
I could say the same about half the cards in your hand
>>161252313
Liza is for treating like a princess though
>>161252602
Nope, I play the pure Seraph experience, both Forest decks, and Control Sword.
>>161252752
http://shadowlog.com/trend/2016/46/0/78
Turns out I was a little off, I guess I was going by older stats. It beats Face Dragon and barely beats Aggro Bats but dies hard to Banner and a bit to Midrange Sword.
I coulda sworn it crushed Midrange Sword. I guess that's the Seraph version. Anyway the point remains the same, it's basically bumbling midrange and slower aggro decks that lose to it.
>>161252873
>Why do people think a card that wipes the board of followers is anti aggro when aggro depends entirely on followers?
Not that guy, but you're a fucking idiot.
>>161252791
It's a really nice banner
>>161252651
thanks for the suggestions, I already knew I needed more of the golds, I just don't have them.
>>161253131
>turn fucking 6
>anti aggro
>aggro not having reach with storm/spells
The only fucking retard here is you.
Well and all the other retards who think like you.
>when you curve perfectly in T2 with Rune
>>161253057
more than half
>>161253232
What rank are you? Honestly now.
>>161252873
>>161253232
The problem is that Themis goes in every Haven deck. Storm Haven fuck you over, Elena Haven and it's infinite soucer of heals fucks you over, etc etc.
>>161252653
kys
>>161253123
>Another pseudo-intellectual controlfag
Even worse
i got bored while subbing and while i was procrastinating i got a new idea, so i made this
http://89.40.121.179/sv.html
(i'll get a proper domain after payday)
you can search for cards and listen to their english/japanese voices easily
>>161252250
I'm using this atm.
I'd rather have 3 ancient alchemists than 3 calamitous but i don't want to craft one more at this point in time.
Thinking of adding a ptp in there but same as above, and maybe experimenting again with veteran alchemists.
>>161252517
>>161249827
>the best counter goes to the craft that doesn't need it
>>161253406
Go get a .moe domain name.
>>161252770
Because Sage costs too much and by the time you can finally put him in the table the adversary already killed all the bodyguards.
>>161253406
Thank you.
I love you i love you
>>161253378
I don't get how that makes themis a problem for aggro.
Only elana can have a good matchup versus aggro and that's only if they play followers and not amulets in the early game.
If they go plea/aria/elana they will be dead on turn 5.
>>161253406
Aw shit that's pretty sweet anon.
Does anyone have a Sunlight Satan list?
>>161253508
Except no? Mid sword as a deck is proof that that isn't how it works.
>>161253406
http://89.40.121.179/sv.html?Veteran%20Lancer
Just as an aside can we talk about how fucking broken Midrange Sword is? Look at this shit
http://shadowlog.com/trend/2016/46/0/21
When are they gonna nerf Erika already? She's as bad as Forest and has been as broken as Forest for just as long.
>Play against Dshift
>They skip their first 3 turns and concede
I almost feel sorry for them, but they're a Dshift player so I don't.
>>161253406
You're alright, anon.
>>161253406
thanks anon
>>161253486
What if he's not a weeaboo apprentice who enjoy using dated injokes? :^)
>>161253668
>implying it wasnt earthrune
>Odining their Odin
>>161253232
Still waiting on your rank. Let me guess, not even AA.
>>161253617
If you played midsword you'd know you're only able to do otohime+sage combo when either the adversary has totally shit hand or when you got an absolute godhand.
Without real good draws midsword is a total joke.
http://89.40.121.179/sv.html?Merlin
Which cards sound better in EN than JP?
Might actually make a mixed pack.
>>161253794
>Opponent uses Odin to snipe an Aria.
>Play Seraph next turn
>No more Odins
>>161253406
http://89.40.121.179/vo_100611010/j_00002.wav
Now I can trigger myself on demand.
>mirror match
>enemy goes second
>enemy gets perfect curve, a card played every turn
>your lowest card in the first turns is 3PP
>>161253864
Except I have over 300 fucking games with the deck, the only way they're murdering otohime+all of her guards is when you're fucked anyways.
>meanwhile, on reddit
https://www.reddit.com/r/Shadowverse/comments/5f64qc/why_am_i_so_bad/
>>161253986
What card is this? I don't think I've ever heard it, only B2.
>keep facing Elana
>change to control to tech then
>immediately face dshift
FUCK OFF
>>161253986
http://89.40.121.179/vo_100721020/j_00002.wav
Shit I meant this one.
>>161253864
>Deck with the second highest winrate in the game currently
>Without good draws it's a total joke
This is what Swordfags actually believe.
>>161254024
https://www.reddit.com/r/Shadowverse/comments/5f7gxm/how_exactly_do_missions_work/
How can they be this retarded?
>>161254053
nightmare I think
>>161254053
It is Nightmare. It never gets played but the JP lines are pure sex.
>>161254114
Levi is worse
>>161253830
Yes I'm not even AA.
I have been playing for less than a month.
But getting masters with a T1 deck is fucking easy, so I don't see your fucking point.
Have you tried making an argument instead of ad homenium or is that too hard for you?
Need a concede for daily please
52888
>>161254020
And I have over 500 games and I can tell without a perfect drawing curve sage isn't going to save your life. Specially if you go first.
In that sense the banner has the use for a more aggressive style that disregards defense.
>>161254313
>under AA
>playing for less than a month
>somehow knows all about geting to Master
>>161254243
I'm going to be pretty honest.
I think the english version is sexier.
Mostly because I don't like the whole "say by syllable" thing.
>>161254313
I've been playing for roughly a month, started with Steam and I'm AA. My point is, maybe, just maybe, your opinion isn't fact and the things you say aren't be all end all. And maybe you're fucking wrong. I guess that's ad hominem attacks eh?
>>161254361
Except I see exactly zero fucking people running Banner in mid.
giving the game a fair shake
isn't this just hearthstone with waifus or am I missing something?
So good.
http://89.40.121.179/sv.html?imp%20lancer
>>161254358
Thanks anon
http://89.40.121.179/vo_101131020/j_00000.wav
>>161254510
No getting fucked in the ass by Yogg and his RNG friends. Turns out that makes for a more enjoyable game
>>161254425
>implying that shadowverse is the only ccg that exists
>implying it's hard to understand
>implying it's hard to reach master
I'm still waiting on your argument. I'll have to remind you that posting smug anime girls does not count as one.
>>161254474
It's just a banner deck with otohime and aurelia.
http://89.40.121.179/vo_101431010/e_00003.wav
pure sex
>>161254510
it's mechanically superior to hearthstone, but pretty much what you said
>>161254510
It's HS with better balance, no adventure paywall and it's much more generous to f2p (3 quests per day, easier to make money on arena, more cards per pack, higher lego droprate)
I've got like 7 decks in this after 2 months. I don't think I ever got more than 3 HS decks after spending loads on it
>>161254550
delet this
>>161254610
You don't know the grind ahead, man. I'm so sorry for you.
>>161254510
It's Hearthstone with waifus, a lot of the frustrating garbage removed, and more complex mechanics. It's also way more generous
>>161254313
>Under AA
Themis is an anti aggro card. Aggro's strategy is to flood the board with followers. Themis clears followers. There are plenty of Aggro games that go beyond turn 6 and the ones that don't are when you get the godhand and curve perfectly. And people can make comebacks past turn 6 even when they are down. Themis would help you do that by clearing the board and forcing a reset. Basically you have no idea what you're talking about and need to shut the fuck up instead of calling other people (who have been playing the game longer and are better at it than you) retards.
>>161254645
???
>>161254759
themis is too late for aggro, themis is an anti mid range card, which is why it should get removed entirely because it's fucking stupid and unnecessary
>>161254461
>he's not in AA therefore his argument is wrong
Yes actually, pretty textbook actually.
I could just dust a bunch of cards and make a storm haven deck and get to master.
But I don't want to do that, I want to play the decks I like.
So I'm playing with an incomplete ramp dragon deck and I'm in A2 with it right now.
But I forgot that I was not allowed to have opinions unless I netdeck my way into master first.
>redraw all 3 cards
>draw a perfect curve
>they're sure your hand is shit
>crush them
http://89.40.121.179/vo_102021030/j_00002.wav
I love this
http://89.40.121.179/vo_102421020/j_00000.wav
>>161254780Is it just me?
How do I draw 3 themis' like all these havens on the ladder? Do I just have to get better at the video game?
>>161254873
What card is it.
>>161254712
Yeah it would take a while, that does not make it difficult.
>>161254796
>themis is too late for aggro,
No it's not
You rarely win on turn 5 as aggro, a board wipe on turn 6 can save and then swing the game
http://89.40.121.179/vo_101341020/e_00001.wav
So calm and collected.
>doing the dailies in HS
>battle against a lot of newplayer with shittydeck with only basic cards
is so painful to beat this guys they should come to shadowverse
>>161254801
>LITERALLY, LITERALLY "I COULD DO IT IF I WANTED I JUST DON'T WANT TO"
Holy shit my sides.
How exactly does DShift beat Elana again? If they get early enough beastcall arias it's impossible to keep up
>playing Rune in take 2
>every match so far follows this pattern
>kill anything that moves
>beat face with cheap dudes
>drop Satan turn 10
>win
>>161252162
how tho?
there are good 5 drop cards with good stats that dont even lose attack after each turn.
even if your vengance is active, 6/6 isnt even that good.
>>161254759
Not that anon but Themis isn't really an anti-aggro card. It's a little too slow; by turn 6 you've probably already taken too much damage if you're relying on Themis for stabilizing. It's far better against midrange. Obviously it can help against aggro but calling it anti-aggro is not quite right.
An anti-aggro card is something more like Unica; aggro is forced to trade into her rather than go face in the early game because she nullifies face damage from 1 drops and 2 drops, and she can help you gain that bit of life you need later on.
>>161254938
Dragonewt Scholar
I don't know, anon, she's just so fucking hot, and the English voice lines are perfect.
http://89.40.121.179/vo_101111050/e_00001.wav
>>161255079
>6/6 isn't that good
A 5pp 6/6 is very good, the average 5 drop is looking at 4/5 stats. And she turns into an 8/8 when she evolves, which is huge.
This isn't Hearthstone where 5 drops are 5/6. worth of stats
>>161254759
>Aggro's strategy is to flood the board with followers
aggro is not midrange. Aggro's strategy is to kill you as fast as possible. Sure they flood the board but they don't rely on it to finish you off. They have storm and reach with spells.
Themis is way too late for killing aggro. No to mention that you should have a superior board to aggro by turn 6 unless you're just running removal, which elana does not do.
Barrage is an anti-aggro card. Foul Tempest is an anti aggro card.
Themis is not.
>>161255061
Can't heal over the 20 I'm hitting you for.
>>161255061
By making your healing irrelevant and murdering everything you put out until it's time to hit you with Destroyers/meme stuff like Flame=Glass.
fucking nerds
>>161255045
>I can't construct an argument so I'm going to attack him on something unrelated
Nice one. Keep up the animeposting retard.
This was about fucking themis, not whether or not I'm in master retard.
>>161254796
>which is why it should get removed entirely because it's fucking stupid and unnecessary
How the fuck did you come to that conclusion?
I like Themis', it's nice having an actual fucking functioning board wipe in a hearthstone clone to punish curve out and win decks.
This was fun.
Not going to save you sweetie
This guy is literally an A rank shitter, who says he could get to Masters if he wanted, and thinks that Themis, which destroys all followers, is not an anti aggro card. Like holy shit, there is so much wrong with that.
>>161255493
Shut up havencuck.
>>161253898
Cudgel, Nightmare, Snowman, Mordecai, Lucifer, Hell's Unleasher, Harnessed Flame, Imp Lancer, Charon, Winged Sentinel Garuda, Satan
>>161255472
sure kiddo
>>161255420
Say that to my wife's face
>>161255532
post list
>>161255567
>Imp Lancer
uhh, no?
>>161254957
Yeah you usually win on turn 6 when he finally clears your board with followers and you kill him with reach right after.
If you can't clear the board versus aggro turn 5 with your own followers then the aggro player is retarded because you should already be dead.
Unless you've been dropping wards every turn, which elana does not do.
>>161255061
kaleido, petrify
>>161255536
I mean, I agree with him, but trying to defend himself when he's a lowrank shitter is pathetic.
>>161255648
This one http://game-ai.jp/shadowverse/lenz-expression-true-and-horseshoe-witch/
>>161255536
It's not an anti-aggro card.
This is just semantic bullshit but an anti-aggro card is a card that specifically targets aggro decks. Healing Angel is an anti-aggro card since the small heal usually doesn't matter much in other situations but is incredibly impactful in the aggro match-ups.
Themis is just a damn good card in general. It's powerful against aggro, midrange, and follower-focused control, being at its best against midrange.
>>161255765
Is itfun?
>>161255472
You've got to be trolling at this point. You can't be this retarded and not die choking on your own tongue. And I will thank you.
>>161255637
Your wife likes it when I'm rough with her
>>161255571
I'm enjoying your complete inability to defend your retarded opinion.
Please keep posting.
I'm higher rank than maybe 2 of you at most, and I want all of you to SHUT THE FUCK UP.
>>161255872
(You)
>>161255832
Kinda
>>161255637
Why does she make two fairies when she evolves?
>>161255868
This looks so much fun to play. I just play this with 5 mana and it's just like WOAH
>>161255942thanks
>>161255729
Right because every aggro deck kills before turn 5. Always. It's not set in stone. Most aggro games go into turn 6 and 7. Hell that's why Aggrobats bother running Imp lancers. But what do I know. I'm just an AA rank shitter. Surely you, with your less than one month of gametime know better. After all. You could be Master if you wanted to. But you just don't want to.
>>161255836
I'm waiting for you to post something that is not completely retarded.
I don't know why though, I should just give up.
You should let your parents know that dropping babies on their heads can cause serious long term effects.
Ok, I unpacked my third Olivia today and I have a shiny already. How many do I liquefy? I see ramp dragon runs two is there any reason to keep more than that?
>>161255915
It's a dickwaving contest at this point, nothing you can do.
>>161256082
keep shiny
the rest i don't care
wouldn't liquify anything this close to xpac though
Please help 73546
>>161255749
how many petrifies do people usually run?
>>161256047
Imp lancer is a board buff card right?
Like they drop it down and swing with their board for lethal.
Wait no, that's wind god, silly me.
Bats run that right? Instead of just turn 6 reach.
>>161256167
no less than 2 I think, 2 scrap 2 petrify should be good
you can even use them on elanas and seraphs
>>161255868
lol
>>161256059
I have never meant this as much as I do now. Mr. "I don't want to netdeck, I just want to have fun, that's why I'm in A when I could be in Masters".
Git
Gud
>>161255868
This just seems like an incredibly stupid and frustrating card. The situation where they topdeck it next turn will be frustrating for you but the situation where they never draw it will instead be frustrating for them.
Why do they keep making cards like this?
>>161255970
Forest
haven gutting when
>>161256305
same time as forest
>>161256235
I'm still waiting for you to defend themis as an anti aggro card.
>>161256305
Going by win percentages the same time Forest and Sword are also gutted as they're all sitting around 54% winrates overall.
Hey, guy who's in charge of the sound file archive, Lucifer's lines seem to be messed up.
>>161255868
Why would I want to get fucked in the ass by RNG?
If I wanted to play Shadow, should I just hoard vials and gold and hope to get nice things in the next expansion?
>>161255868
I might want to see if renolock is alive again
Other than that I'm kinda done with that bullshit
>>161256481
yes and you won't wait to much
>>161255970
Those are my children
http://89.40.121.179/vo_100221010/j_00000.wav
Why is she so perfect lads?
need someone to concede
33281
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ojx0W3Jv9wA
Look our boys guys
>>161256340
OK one last time. I've done it before, but perhaps you were so blinded by your tears that the screen was too blurry for you to read it properly. Or maybe you just can't read.
Themis clears the board of all followers. Aggro relies on mostly followers to kill the enemy, it's not some burn deck, although some decks do run some burn spells. If you clear the fucking board of all followers, you fuck up the tempo of Aggro, even if they were beating your ass until that point. Yes, if you get the godhand and perfect draws you can end people before turn 6. But there are just as many games, if not more that go beyond that. What Themis does is reset the board state, so all resources you had committed to it as an Aggro player are lost. This allows them some breathing room and potentially a comeback. Yes you can repopulate the board if you knew it was coming. Yes you might have followers with Storm. But for you, with your shit rank, to sit there and say that Themis is not an Anti-Aggro card and that any decent player should have killed them before Turn 6 totally negates all aspects of mulligans, opening hands, card draws, and any actions you or your opponent might take in the literally infinite permutations of ways the game can go out.
Also get fucking good.
>>161256665
I want to keep starring!
>>161256653
You have a cool wife dude.
Would adventure with.
>>161256779
So you seem to be confused here.
What exactly do you think aggro decks are?
List them please.
I feel like you're about to start naming tempo elf, midrange sword and ramp dragon here.
>>161256779
Card that is helpful against aggro in the midgame =/= anti-aggro card.
An anti-aggro card is a card that specifically targets aggro. Themis is not this card
Also you don't ruin their tempo, by wasting your turn casting Themis they still have the tempo.
>>161256748
What's the point of facecam if nothing is happening on it 90% of the time?
http://89.40.121.179/vo_101221070/j_00002.wav
>>161249469
Sauce,for science?
Would making an aggro bats deck help me climb faster?
I'm winning about 66% of the time now and my fastest deck is Face Dragon so I'm not sure if Bats would significantly increase the amount of games I can play or not
>>161256779
>>161256909
I can see themis being good against face dragon and that's it.
Even then it might be a little too late, but face dragon is slower than other aggro and relies on unremovable followers to stick for a long time.
But that's it.
against bats, banner and aggro shadow themis is too slow to be any good.
More cycle than silly elf could ever manage
>>161256821
Thanks man, I love her very much. Elves are the best, and Cynthia's the best elf.
>>161257121
Just a question, have you actually played this game or are you one of those people who stick exclusively to image boards to theory craft in games they don't actually play?
Noob here,should i go aggro blood to get packs ?
This is a cool legendary right?
Hardly see any aggro decks today. Went up against 3 control sword, 2 tempo forest, and havens.
>>161256653
http://89.40.121.179/vo_102131010/e_00003.wav
>>161251359
And it worked, everyone's angry at him.
>>161257083
Depends where you are. Bats start getting shit on hard around A by Forest, Elana Haven, and Midrange Sword decks.
I want to play from another pc. How the fuck do I do that? The game tells me "this game data has been linked to another pc account" (yes, on this pc there's already a shadowverse account of another person, but different steam id)
>>161257231
its good for control blood, which is a rather mediocre deck
>>161256082
Keep two since multiple decks run two
There's literally no way you'll use 3 in a game
>>161257220
Explain to me how aggro relies on the fucking board at turn 6+ please.
Name this fucking deck.
Because for all this bullshit about me not being master I think you haven't left fucking B
>>161257325
Never mind then
If they lose those I might as well stick with dragon which at least counters some metadecks.
>>161257439
I've been hit by the 3x Olivia before.
Twice.
You must be MASTER rank to post below this one.
>>161257652
But im a3
>>161257454
I'm not talking about any of that
I'm talking about
>I can see themis being good against face dragon and that's it
>>161257454
Not even that guy, but it's not even all that bullshit about you not being Master. It's about you not even having left A. And your ironclad opinion that Aggro just autowins the game before turn 6. Also you saying you could be in Master if you wanted didn't help either.
>>161257362
login with that steam account
>>161257652
And I get the right to use silly decks
>>161257691
In the context of aggro decks.
Yes.
Try to keep up.
61622
Fight with me fags
>>161257790
>Face dragon
>Aggro deck
>>161257715
As an AA player, I'm going to say that anon is right.
Yes, Themis can do work against aggro decks. But the thing is, all aggro decks past turn 6 are just focused on burning you out. If you look at the curve of aggro bat or face dragon or banner, all of their 6 drops followers have storm. By that point in the game it's expected that they lose board control, and now they're on the rush for reach. It's no longer about overwhelming the opponent with a low curve, it's now about storming face or direct damage, because they no longer CAN overwhelm the opponent so they have to close out the game ASAP. Midrange is the archetype that wants to keep board control during and after the midgame, not aggro. Aggro just wants to kill you dead
>>161258014
Are you a fucking idiot?
>>161258014
>wins on turn 6
>midrange
>>161256213
Here's my deck right now. (not shown: 3x dshift and 3x flame destroyer) Any ideas on what I should get rid of for a second petrify?
>>161257783
Self-mill dragon which I've won like 1 out of 7 matches with
There's literally no way to dump a huge hand without killing myself once I get the engine going. PTP needs to be out ASAP but I just have no way to dump a huge hand so yeah
Ya'll need to come get to masters and start doing dumb shit
>>161257715
>Aggro just autowins the game before turn 6
Nobody ever said that retard.
But I, and other people, have said that if you use all of turn 6 to reset the board state against aggro you are almost certainly dead. Unless you have been running nothing but wards the entire time forcing them to trade non-stop.
Because not only are they just going to use their turn 6/7 to storm you in the face but it would mean that they ended turn 5 with a large board. Which all hit you in the face. And probably had a decent board turn 4 too.
Because nobody can figure out why you would even need a fucking board clear turn 6 versus aggro. You should be winning on the board by that point. Turn 5+ is for wards and healing if you have it.
>>161258078
How did you get multi-class cards in your deck?
jokes on him my quest is done
>>161258060
No, are you?
> not a single Floral Fencer
> not a single 1/x point follower so Princesses will draw nothing
> no Olivia or Satan
> No Memehime or Assault Commander
> no Frontguard General or Leonidas
I'm honestly tempted to just concede all 5 matches for the free DE pack. I used a ticket anyways.
>>161258078
Is this a deck for the new Nexus class?
Seems kind of shit honestly. Especially if you're trying to run DShift
>>161258078
fuck, wrong screenshot
>>161258014
Anon it's in the fucking name.
Are we really going to be doing this right now?
I blame MtG for making up all these names which are mostly obsolete for electronic CCG but nobody wants to make up new terms.
>let me just summon 4 units to the field in one move
>>161258162
You literally got saved by some japanese salaryman entering a train-tunnel and losing connection with his phone
>>161258192
Please tell me how face dragon is not an aggro deck. It is literally titled "face dragon".
I'm really excited to hear this one.
>>161258258
I hate when people try to compare Hearthstone-like control decks with MtG control decks and then go off on how control can't exist in Hearthstone and its ilk due to no instants and counterspells. Apples and Oranges guys.
>>161258060
As an AA player, I'm saying he's fucking wrong. Comebacks can happen and have happened.
>>161258363
>genesis
>forte/urd
>aggro
>mulligan hand
>get the same hand right back
Help
I've been playing since the steam release and this is what I have so far.
Feel like burning 1k vials to finish my poverty bannermeme deck then liquefying BM, Skullfane, and ES for another Pascale. Earthrite might be shit it's it's prettyfun.
>>161258474
>Genesis
>Urd
>ran in Face Dragon
>>161258128
You did. When you said, any decent aggro player would have won by turn FIVE.
As a rank C player, I think you're all chodes.
>>161258363
Yeah especially since control really can't exist and midrange is just supposed to be relative to aggro and control, one of which does not exist.
So the whole terminology goes out the window.
Because control in CCGs are some mix between slow midrange decks and combo decks.
>>161258587
As a Master player, I am a chode.
>>161258474
You are confusing storm dragon and face dragon anon.
>jap master decks use themis in Storm Haven
reminder to dc quit against all elana and dshift players
>>161258213
I've went on 5-0 sprees before with absolute jank, it's not impossible.
>>161258536
Fuck forgot my image.
>>161258474
Nobody fucking runs Urd or Genesis in Face Dragon. That's not Face Dragon.
>>161258587
As a masters player I demand that you post lewd pictures or be sent to the slavemines
>looking up tourney decks to see how the meta is different from ladder
>find this https://shadowverse.gamepress.gg/deck/rage-group-b-1st-place-aggro-bloodcraft
How the fuck does that even work? I don't get what the changes do other than make the deck slower
>>161258474
Anon face dragon only runs 3 cards over 5 mana and they\re all forte.
You're describing ramp/storm
>>161258474
You're thinking of midrange/ramp dragon.
This is a face list.
Also Ball Lightning is very much an aggro card.
>>161258471
Of course comebacks can happen. But that doesn't make Themis an anti-aggro card, and it doesn't mean aggro is reliant on having a board during the midgame. If you Themis an aggro board while you're at low life and then they blank on draws and have no reach, well, you got lucky.
Build a big, beautiful wall.
>>161258587
I am not a chode, i am aburd
>>161258730
Not again please, I promise I'll behave
>>161258578
You mean this?
>>161253589
Yes if any decent aggro deck plays against a deck that just drops amulets 3 turns in a row even priest of the bullshit wont be enough to save them.
I stand by that.
Unless they are shadow, but I did say decent.
>>161258695
...anon I started a week after steam release
>>161258747
Aggro by definition is reliant on having a board at all points of the game for however long it lasts. That includes the midgame, if they get that far. And luck and draws make up a large part of this game.
>>161258695
Dust all your shit cards if you actually want to play fun decks
>>161258909
you're lucky as fuck
Can I get a concede?
42486
>>161258646
Themis is a good reset button if/when you eventually lose the board in the mid to late game. It's great at clearing the way for storm amulets that you played the previous turn. Better in some matchups than others granted which is why you see 0-2 depending on the list.
>>161258747
Ball Lightning is a dragon card anon.
You can tell because there are no dragon decks that don't have her.Unless they are complete memes like discard or satan
>>161258812
>Didn't kill a single bat the previous turn
>Didn't kill a single bat before evoing Floral Fencer
Auto-pilot can count to potato once again. Rightfully conceded in shame.
>>161258874
I shall recommend you for rank b promotion at the next meeting
Create a new card to make control blood, control shadow and control dragon viable
can I recover from this
> turn 1 do nothing
> turn 2 do nothing
> turn 3 do nothing
>>161258904
No I mean this
>>161255729
Also where do you get off talking about decent when you haven't even left A?
>>161259048
Bellringer Devil
1/1
Fanfare: Ban the opponent if they are playing Haven, Forest or Sword
>>161258536
>>161258695
How do you guy have so little cards? Do you not dust your animated cards and just generally shit golds and legendaries
>>161258935
>Aggro by definition is reliant on having a board at all points of the game for however long it lasts.
Uhhhh.
Not even close?
Where are you getting your definition of aggro?
>>161259029
I meant Ball Lightning fits in aggro not that it was 100% aggro only. My bad.
>"I need 1k vials to finish this deck, better liquefy a legendary I guess"
>Merlin, Forte, Odin, Fafnir, Aurelia, LoTF, Olivia
I have no way out do I
Where should I go to netdeck?
Gamepress is shite but I'm not sure which nip site is best
>>161259004
Thanks Freedom-san.
>>161258935
Aggro always has reach. Turn 6 is past time they all start using it.
>>161259223
I like this one
http://xn--shadowverse-e63t796khk9bk11e.com/
(ignore the weird shit, it's moon characters)
>>161258747
I've been climbing with aggro dragon fast up until b2-a.
The deck runs out of steam too fast. Any control deck that runs wards can easily stall it out. I've been losing a lot to day to control sword, haven, earth rite rune, etc. The only decks I manage to beat are forest decks.
I like dragon but aggro dragon is kinda eh right now for me.
>>161259223
Game-AI, I guess.
>>161259125
It's reliant on followers. If you don't have followers on the board, you're fucked.
Holy fuck I've never been luckier lately.
I've gotten amazing draws and mulligans and beating all my unfavoured matchups even while going 1st. What gives
>>161259120
Shit draws mostly. I have shit golds to because I drew Kaguya and Leonidas 7 times each.
>>161259189
Anon you probably have dupes if you count animated cards alongside normal ones
i.e. 3x fronguard general 1x anim fronguard
You can liquid one of the three normal ones without issue in that situation
I always get 1500 or so vials when I go through and check for this
>>161259039
He killed 2 bats last turn
I played:
t4 Night Horde
t5 Night Horde
t6 Vamp Queen
But yeah he fucked up
what should i liquefy?
>>161259223
gamepress is just a shittier version of gamewith which takes its info from game-ai
What the fuck is up with these Japs with never surrendering until it's too late? I was winning the entire game and despite that he still tries to win the game off his topdecks.
>>161259368
your lifes luck is going to videogames
>tfw you mess up your first real chance at 5-0
>tfw you cant blame anyone but yourself
>not allowed to name my deck "BALLS OF STEEL"
>name it "STEEL TESTICLES" instead
welp
>>161259431
None of them.
But if you have to, Skullfane.
>>161259368
Variance.
>>161259431
jeanne skull and flute are easy ones
>>161259341
Except not really because storm and burn are things all three usable aggro decks right now have in overflow.
>>161259076
Oh you men that it's the end of fucking turn 5 and aggro has a board? Yes you're fucking dead, unless you are behind a taunt wall somehow.
How the fuck are you alive if it's turn 5 and aggro has a board?
You're supposed to be clearing that shit.
>>161259434
At least let him meet his ancestors with his head high.
>>161259434
HAVEN
GUTTING
WHEN
>>161259431
Jeanne is poop and you can also liquify Moon and Seraph since you have no reason to ever play Haven
>10 PP Neutral Legendary Follower
>Fanfare: Cast a random spell for each spell you have already caster this game
What do you guys think?
>>161259503
>>161259510
do i really need 3 bug kings?
also that fucker keeps dropping on me
This is like the fifth...
>>161259434
>What the fuck is up with these Japs with never surrendering until it's too late?
That's bascially the reason we had to drop the nukes on these guys in the first place.
>>161259616
if you're ever going to play a deck that needs him you'll want 3 of him yes
>>161259631
Goddammit
>>161254934
Put 3 of them in your deck and learn to draw them. Git gud.
>>161259434
Should I call your mom?
>>161259434
you are strong, but you lack passion
http://89.40.121.179/vo_100221010/j_00001.wav
My strong and beautiful wife!
>>161259610
I say fuck knife ears
>>161259610
Sounds like it could make for fun stories to tell your friends.How did anyone in the HS's team think this would be a good idea?
>>161259738
jiiiiiiiii
>>161259616
He's a 3 of in mid and control shadow, fun bugger, can't wait for his boss.
>>161259341
An aggro deck is a deck that seeks to lower your opponent's life to 0 as quickly as possible. They have very low curves and focus on churning out a large amount of high-impact followers in the early game, and then use reach to seal the game in the later stages. They are 100% NOT reliant on having a board after a certain point because their low-cost followers do not stack well against mid to late game followers, which is when they instead begin to focus on reach and burning the opponent out.
Have you ever even played an aggro deck? All the aggro decks in this game rely on storm and burn later in the game, not on their board. Banner has a million storm followers, aggro bats has storm and burn out the ass, and face dragon has Forte. None of them care about having a board past turn 6 because by that point all they want to do is get their last bit of damage.
>>161259434
>Elanashitter crying that people won't concede as soon as the match starts
>>161259738
EN version is way superior
>>161257740
I'll try to clarify... I created my account on my own pc, and this person has his own shadowverse account and his own steam account. If I login with my own steam account on his pc, I can't seem to be able to play shadowverse
>>161259631
This makes too much sense.
>tfw when you meme every elite ai on your first try with your forestmeme decki'm gonna buy vampy avatar
>>161259738
Cynthia is stronger and more beautiful.
>>161259738
>ihh kiiii strong and beautiful too-gether
>dub
>god
I srsly hope
>>161259875
http://89.40.121.179/vo_100221010/j_00000.wav
Her arrogance carries across better in JP
Which aggro deck can help me climb the fastest?
>>161259497
Reminded me of this
https://youtu.be/eckoYQqdk28
>>161260062
Bats
>>161259875
EN version is some /tv/ or retarded vocaroo shitshow.
>>161259987
Cynthia is a knife ear that's going to be given to the orc chieftain as tribute.
>>161260062
Bats or Banner, both are sanic the hedgehog tier speed-wise.
>>161259813
Stop staring!
>>161259429
Ah two is fair, I've only ever gotten that combo with a Summon Bloodkin that went ignored, it's nice to get.
Probably mostly embarrassment then. Board space always feels like a big deal like that, it's funny playing Sword and being happy they make the weak trades for you to hide that you left no room for better evo trade plays. Forest is kind of the same, found out in Take 2 one reason Titania amulet is weak is board space is really important for getting Tia off without cheap spells.
>>161259610
You'd have to be a complete retard to think a card like that would be a good idea.
>>161260218
Up till people start spamming elves
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v6qMD1lIWT0&list=RDv6qMD1lIWT0#t=2
>tfw playing with swordcraft
>>161259738
http://89.40.121.179/vo_100221010/e_00002.wav
Shit is this MLP?
>>161259895
sv is built on mobile code and wants to fingerprint whichever device it's on. you have to keep removing the cache files so that it will ask for your account info again
if you are on a shared PC i strongly suggest contacting cygames and telling them to go fuck themselves
oh shit oops wrong thread >>161260169
is running that card a shit idea?
Thinking of crafting a moonbunny to finish this, opinions?
>>161260158
She's my wife so she won't. And that orc chieftain is my friend too. Forestcraft sticks together
>>161260354
I fucking wish.
Then we might actually get sawashiro
>>161260463
You only need 1 so not a bad idea.
>>161260445
Try it and post results
>>161260463
Urd is better
>>161260074
damn thats ancient, anon
>>161260463
+1 moon +2 urd -3 sisters
>>161260589
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_nSA96eU1Us
>>161260316
May, a turn 3 AElf and maybe turn 5 Tia when he's going second and has 2 0 cost fairies are your biggest worries, otherwise it's ignore and go for the groin and pray for topdeck victories. Elves are like a 40%~45% matchup for aggro if I remember right.
>>161260663
>>161260565
See that's something I don't get
I ran this deck with Urd for a while before I had the vials for moonbunny and got zero actual use out of her
Sisters on the other hand, helped me get my aria off earlier a bunch of times and overwhelm the opponent. What's so bad about her and so good about Urd?
>>161260761
Cucks evolutions, cucks ancient elves
Another round of storm for your eagles
everyone in low ranks plays these netdecks. getting old. nobody plays their own unique decks?
>>161260761
urd can give you 8 face if you play it with a bird and an evolve, that's pretty disgusting
can also be used to double baldy and give you utility by using it on the opponent's units that gained something from being played
>>161260358
Tried removing the cache, still tells me this account is linked yadda yadda
Seriously considering a fuck-you mail to the devs
http://89.40.121.179/vo_101111010/j_00000.wav
>>161260492
Next expansion, just believe.Even better, she'll be your new Leader
>>161260761
Urd lets you push for 2~3 more damage depending on the bird or bunny you blow up, she also helps with downsizing big Ancient Elves and the like. There's also blowing up a Baldy you played last turn to allow you to evolve him again.
>>161260550
I don't have the cards necessary for a proper deck with that, I might just make a deck like that and try
but isn't the next expansion close? maybe I shouldn't waste vials yet
>>161260891
Welcome to literally every single competitive trading/collectible card game ever created.
Casualand Master rankis where you want to be if you want to play people with their own decks. Not unranked, casual play with actual people.
>>161260945
Yes please.
For Sword.
anyone want to give me a concede?
38133
as a HS player take two is much better than arena.
>>161253406
remi and rami is missing lines
>>161260852
>>161260908
>>161260989
So Urd lets you trigger Storm attacks twice in a row, cool
She does nothing to Fanfare cards, right?
>>161261186
right
>>161261131
appreciate the help man
>>161261142
As an HS player driving nails into your fingertips is better than Arena
>>161260724
A fucking classic.
>>161260945
when new exp?
Pinion is a really bad card this falcon should do a free 1 damage to the enemy when is summoned.
>win = 100 score
>Lose = 3 score
How the hell do you sandbag again?
>>161261450
I hope you die
>>161261508
eat shit
CANT
SAVE
ANYONE
>>161261508
you get out of beginner rank of course
http://89.40.121.179/sv.html?verdant
Why is this allowed?
>>161261509
1 mana and do nothing 2 turns
He would've probably won the game if he didn't evolve lucifer
>>161261508
You don't.
Sandbagging is for shitheads and cowards
>>161261641
Well im both. Along with being poor, i dont have good decks.
>>161261027
It's not my fault. I'm trying to learn a game and have fun and make a deck and I realize I just see the same exact cards destroying me over and over and I have no idea how to counter so I just have to look up a deck of my own if I don't want to end up with a 40+ loss-streak which is what I had when I actually tried making a deck.
>last 8 packs
>no legos
>no golds
hold me /svg/
>>161261779
>what is variance
>Vsing Elana Haven
>They use dark offering on their 8 hp mob to heal themselves from lethal range
>Overdraw 5 cards
>Pause for about a minute
>Concede
Typical fucking haven
> earth rite ptp
> 14 shadow @ turn 8
this is such a good deck!
>>161261779
>Only 8
Please that's nothing. At least get to double digits first
>>161261901
Wrong list dammit
Does anybody know who voices JP Moon?
>>161261623
>draw a girl
>call it a boy
>allowed
>draw a boy
>give it a voice of a girl
>not allowed
Explain this
>>161260891
I do, I managed somehow. The issue with that is that the more you play with it most it's likely to get replicated and popular, eventually.
>>161261901
You're earth rite you can stall forever
>>161261980
nah I copied it card by card from the game-ai website
60% win rate my fucking ass I haven't been able to win a single game out of 10 with it
>forte shitter can't finish my control blood
>waiting for opponent
heheheh
When does the score rewards rotate? First of every month?
>>161262038
Just because you have the cards doesn't mean you know how to use them. Fucking netdeckers.
>>161261975
Anon I'm saving my gold for the expansion so I'm not buying packs.
This was all from arena tickets/reward packs over weeks.
It feels terrible.
>>161261901
>PtP earth rite
>Sorcery cache
???
>>161262003
There are a lot of times where girls do boy voices anon.
>>161262026
just like in the picture, right?
> burning every card in my hand trying to stay alive but still bleeding hp every turn
fucking dogshit
>>161261998
>Does anybody know who voices JP Moon?
anyone who can read that shitty language
>>161262038
http://game-ai.jp/shadowverse/lenz-expression-true-and-horseshoe-witch/
But there's no remi and sorcery cache in that list
I was popping kids at turn 8-9 while dealing with their threats
>>161255532
>>161257130
>>161262132
Listen to the Verdant Steward's quotes. English is clearly a girl, Japanese is clearly a boy.
>>161262150
It really sounds like you're either using a bad list or just suck. PtP decks aren't easy to play, they have learning curves.
>>161262117
> YOU NEED MAXIMUM DRAW DUDE SORCERY CACHE + FATE'S HAND TOTALLY NOT DEAD CARDS WITHOUT ONE ANOTHER XDXDXDXD
I just pulled 2 Odins from yesterday and today.
Does anything even run 2 Odins?
It seems most deck that run him usually just have 1 teched in.
Give me Lord of the Flies or Tia, reeeee.
>>161262003
boys can have girly voices too.
Hai to Gensou no Grimgar is aniem about a bunch of kids going to a new world of phantasy.
This anime is really relaxing and over all is the grind part of the rpgs but the good part is one character.
There is a fucking Favaro with sixteen year old in this anime the VA is the same the character is the same and is fucking funny the Lil'Favaro scenes i highly reccomend to Bahamut orphans.
>>161262432
Keep 2, as long as there's stuff like Seraph you'll want them unless they release something better at some point.
why the fuck are people doing PtP forest and Storm/Elana haven in unranked, I just want to do my dragon dailies
>>161262213
Sounds like a guy in both to me, anon
>Powerfull demon lord gets destroyed by a bunch of angry fairies.
Nice game.
new expansion when?
also new to the game, when will I start losing more points per loss than gained per win?
>>161262510
Is Favaro really like Ranta? Because Ranta was annoying for most of the anime.
>>161262557
They're just doing their dailies
>>161262606
Maybe the idiot should have invested in the power of friendship then. It's a japanese kids game after all.
tfw I'm good at arena but find it really boring
I can't bring myself to open packs because I know it's not cost efficient
>>161262213
The real crime is getting rid of the hilarious obsession for fairies.
>>161262625
You never lose more but at A rank and beyond it equalizes so you win 100 and lose 100 unless you fight someone of higher rank
>>161262510
Anyone have Remi and Rami's evolve voice line?
>>161262625
I hear the new expansion is coming at the end of December.
As for ranking, don't worry about it, just learn about the actual game itself first. Ranking largely has no impact
>>161262667
It's been like this for the past 12 matches it hurts
> fall for me dshift meme
> realize after 48 losses you need AT LEAST 3 of the dshift/destroyer combination ie. destro dshift dshift, destro dshift dshift, etc.
when will rune become a fun class to play as?
>>161256965
>http://89.40.121.179/vo_101221070/j_00002.wav
OTOHIME PLEASE OLD MEN FOR PROTECTION
>>161262870
I had more fun with older unoptimized dshift lists than the new ones. Grinding people out until after turn 10 then laying waste with a massive fucking Rune Blade was way more fun than cycling asap into Destroyer + Dshift on turn 8.
Requesting a concede
43096
>>161262870
>48
Anon i think you might be retarded
>>161262870
>play dickshift
>you and your opponent die of boredom
Great deck.
>>161262870
You NEED 3 of EACH you memer
>>161262976
you still need to cycle rune blade asap or you get mauled
how is that any different?
>>161262834
dont care about ranking but looking at score rewards and wondering if I should grind ranked or do t2s
Guys, help. The game made me do a fucked up thing.
https://shadowverse-portal.com/deckbuilder/create/1?hash=2.1.61O4A.61k32.65BUS.5zvAi.61jKU.61lly.61oCC.65XSY.65XSi.5zvvQ.61k2a.61k2u.61k2u.5zvBK.5zvBK.61llo.65adq.65Zuo.659nE.5zvBA.61jKe.65XTK.61oRg.61lmk.61lnM.61lnM.61NLc.61lnC.65GMo.65GMo
>>161262606
Better faries than bats
>sword mirror in arena
>they got floral and paladin
>I didn't
>>161263083
My only loss was a Sword going 2nd with 2 Odins and Leonidas and a shitton of value guys. Further proof that we should remove Sword (and keep Olivia).
>>161263041
My old deck had more removal so it could last longer at the price of speed. It didn't combo as fast but it could last longer in the game.
It didn't matter if I hadn't drawn combo pieces by like turn 6 because I was able to survive longer. Of course that shit wouldn't fly nowadays.
>>161263047
oh, well, score rewards have nothing to do with rank.
You get a score decrease on losing that stops you from ranking up as fast, but that won't count against the total that it records for score rewards
As for t2s, only do them regularly if you know you can average 2.7 wins
moooom
>>161263401
Good job, anon!
>>161262982
Bump
>Aggro is braindead
>Control vs Control are slow back and forth duels that require a lot of thinking and planning
>Dshift makes playing control a pain because of how unfair it is
I hate Dshift
>>161262982
>>161263476
Thanks Forte
>>161263563
that's what havenfags get for being broken
>>161263034
3 in hand, dumbass.
Elves are wonderful. This is a pro-elf general
>>161263752
NO
>>161263752
Is possible!
>>161263323
Oh, so I don't have to hit 100k score for all the rewards, as long as I accumulate 100k over the course of the month?
>>161263865
correct.
>aggro sword vs midrange
>going mad fast
>everything is actually going my way
>he tries to pussy out as I win
>still win
Fuck you midrange fag!
>>161263752
I agree. Arisa is a bestForest is honestly my favorite class, it's a lot of fun. All the little combos and synergies and all the different ways you can play out the decks make it really enjoyable and rewarding to play.
next month's emblem/card back better be Charon
>>161263752
But the question is who is cuter, Elf Knight Cynthia or Elf Girl Liza?
http://89.40.121.179/vo_101241010/j_00002.wav
Feetpussy wife
>Playing arena
>enemy plays leonidas
>Kill it
> Leonidas's Resolve spawns
>Enemy starts emoting
>Exile next turn with odin
>He concedes
BTFO
tfw at least 3 days until I can afford qt mordecai leader
So is PtP Elf just the Patron Warrior of this game? Ridiculously strong, has almost no bad match-ups, but needs a competent pilot?
>>161264129
My wife Cynthia
>>161264267
2 out of 3
>>161264069
Ivory dragon and heavenly hound get my vote for next sleeve.
>>161263752
Arisa is a pro-cock leader
>>161264069
They fucked up. Should have left Snowman for December
>>161264267
Essentially. It's not that good of a ladder deck right now though, it only has a 49% winrate even in master's. Tempo is the better ladder choice.
> enemy Elana
> amulet down on turn three with a full board ALWAYS
> I bother crafting Elana
> almost 75% of my deck later not a single drop
thanks game
time to delete this shitty deck again
>>161264163
nice dolphin porn anon
Is this deck good? Compared to aggro blood that is.
>>161264387
Maybe it's frost giant for next month?
May you rest... in peace
I can see the path to heaven
>>161264202
Why wouldn't you just Odin his Leo
>>161264267
>PtP needing a competent pilot
>hearthstone
>>161264163
do you have evolving cudgel.wav
>>161264582
http://89.40.121.179/vo_100721020/j_00002.wav
>>161264463
looks worse to me
>>161263927
well at my low rank it's way better to grind ranked then as I win more than I lose and get better rewards than my average of 2-3 wins in arena. Thanks
>>161264509
No anon, it's too soon
>>161264627
thanks anon
i hate haven but this is the best card
>>161264515
Dispair so delicious
bloodfed flowerbed in aggro blood yes or no
New card Swordcraft card
4 mana 2/2 Commander
Can't attack followers, if this card is destroyed or banished Win the game
>>161264410
>he thinks he need to craft only one elana for it too work
LMAO YOU NEED TO CRAFT 3 FAGGOT
>>161264864
I had three you fucking cocksucker.
>B Rank
>still meeting people not passing the Liza literacy test
>>161264843
Go share your great idea with /r/shadowverse
>>161264843
New Neutral card
Anons can't post stupid things on /svg/
FAEEEEERIEEEES
>>161264661
No problem, have fun out there.
>>161264936
that card has a better chance of existing than your hope
>gonna lose as shadow
>top deck Rise of the Dead
>resummon Cerby
>win
I love this deck already
13 FUCKING TIMES 13 TIMES IN A ROW I WENT FUCKING FIRST IN ALL MY GAMES. HOW THE FUCK IS THAT EVEN POSSIBLE?
>>161264936
>restricting your opponent's plays during their turn
this is pretty imbalanced anon, we don't want shadowverse decks to have to run these x3 just in order to play on a competitive level and not get bfto
>>161264936
That would kill the thread.
>>161265117
>rise of the dead your mordecai
lmoo
>>161265126
https://www.britannica.com/topic/probability-theory
Need a concede 23951
>>161265126
And you won right?
>>161264948
>>161262651
He's like a more suave and less angsty version of Ranta.
>>161265243
Thanks anon
Q: Why do you draft 1 drops in Take 2?
A: So you can consistently topdeck them only when they no longer matter, despite hard mulliganing for them.
This is some fucking Voodoo Curse level luck I'm having today.
>>161253406
Like the story, some voices are mistranslated or the intent is clearly not the same.
>>161264923
My favorite is people who don't pass the Temple Defender literacy test. Won an arena game once because someone gleefully rammed their 1 attack minion into her before realizing their mistake and immediately conceded.
>unranked
>jap dshift player is taking 10 years between turns
Why the fuck do I get the Win 1 Private Match misison every fucking day?
Can I get a concede?
56237
>>161265464
He probably is trying to learn a new deck.
>>161262625
End of the year they said but the last expansion wasn't revealed until a week before release so it might be a while until we hear anything
>>161265290
Like 7 out of 13 games but I got lucky against some players with some god hands like pic relatedand still lost because memes
>inb4 elanacuck having the right to complain
It was just so I could complete the win 3 Haven missons and I already rerolled so it can't be helped.
>>161264843
>Free swings, anti-board wipe, Humpty Dumpty combo bait, and a permanent commander
How about no, you fucking retard?
>>161264936
>That and Shadow sack bait
Not even as a joke, you ironic retard.
>>161265361
>Q: Why do you draft 1 drops in Take 2?
>A: You dont
This is my first game of this genre and I've been playing for about 3 days, is it supposed to be this easy to rank up early?
>>161265464
Every Haven and Dshift player are like that.
>>161265710
Yes
>>161265464
Unranked is the true place to try out new deck through fire. You can face anyone from beginner to master there. You can truly see how well your deck does, if you play 20 games of just that one deck in unranked.
>Executes my windblast dragon instead of polyphonic roar
PtP forest players everyone
>>161265710
if you have working brain cells and bannermeme, yes.
>>161265652
You do, when the other side is cloud chorus and angelic snipe.
>>161265710
Yes. Winstreak bonuses are massive. You lose them when you're A rank and that's when the real grind begins.
>>161265710
Until rank A0, you will just keep climbing due to how many points you get per win / lose per loss
http://89.40.121.179/vo_101511060/e_00003.wav
Would PTP be balanced in Elf if it only did damage to enemy minions?
>>161265993
If by balanced you mean garbage then yes, it would.
PtP is fine.
I'm new and running aggro or what I have since learned is called bannermeme. Anyone have a good bannermeme deck so I can compare my picks with it? Thanks
>>161266097
my bannermeme
>>161265993
Then it wouldn't be used. It would be balanced if Altered fate costed 6. So you can't spam it to go from 12 to 30 shadows in a single turn.
ding dong
>>161265993
How the fuck would that be balanced? It still kills off your board and you have no way of killing your opponent unless they are already at low health and you have storm or burn spells
>>161266082
t.elfcuck
Yes.
Dont give me shit i started playing today lol.
>>161266082
lol
>>161266230
the only one getting cucked is you while you lose with shitty decks
>Sword has +15% win ratio going second
Defend this
Cerberus.
>>161266346
>>161266346
There is no defending. Sword is bullshit
>>161266368
>only one dog
well that's useless as fuck
>>161266193
>3xSage Commander
Why would you put that in banner
>>161266230
>>161266324
PtP is fine.
It's the forest cards around PtP that make the deck brokenit's not even that bad anymore compared to tempo stop whining
>aggro shadow vs aggro blood
>game takes about 1 minute until turn 5 when we both slow right down to start adding up possible removal combos
>>161266193
Get rid of Sage for ruthless assassin.
>>161266230
PTP has a lower fucking winrate than control sword
And that's the best ptp deck out of all the classes
>>161266291
>>161266398
>There is no defending. Sword is bullshit
anon what they said means that Sword is hilarious bad going first
>get nothing to play the first 5 turns
>topdeck all my two drops after turn 12 one at a time
fucking amazing
>>161266719
>still wins every tournament
Just because you have a bunch of shitters running the deck, doesn't mean it is worse. It is simply harder to play.
>>161266529
>Deck is broken
>Geez stopwhining, there's an even more broken deck in the same class!
The same deck surviving double nerfs and being in top tier for over half a year, including an expansion, is completely balanced. The lengths people will go to justify crutches never ceases to amaze me.
Can't wait for Elf to be exclusively tier yet again for the second expansion. Maybe this time we'll have 3 different tier 1 Elf deck, instead of just 2.
When are dailies going to be changed so I don't have to waste hours fighting tier 1 netdecks in unranked with the default decks?
>>161266895
Tourney meta means literally nothing at this point, it's a pool of like 50 players who all play the same stuff every time
Plus that's a flat out lie
>>161267012
>he don'r re roll
lul
>>161266895
Don't bother. We'll be seeing this "b-but it has 40% win rate in d rank!" excuse from Elf and solitaire for the rest of the game's lifespan.
>>161267012
Anyone have the list of that Silver Bolt Elf deck?
Have some silver bolts lying aroundor is it just like tempo elf but with silver bolt thrown in
>>161266952
There's nothing fucking wrong with a class staying good
You just want people to be punished for not playing your deck.
HS style nerfs which render stuff completely unviable aren't healthy for a game
>>161267085
oh so you're one of those shitters that complain about rune too
>>161267054
>Win 1 Haven match
>Reroll
>Win 3 Haven matches
Incredible
And before you say "just make a Storm Haven deck lmao" I'm not wasting my vials on that shit
>>161266082
>PtP is fine.
is guardian sun good?
>>161266230
the vast majority of classes have a way of killing at around the same point that PTP can go off. The only one that can actually enable PtP at a reasonable time is Forest but it's the roach that enables the lethal.
Shadow is the only one that doesn't have a win condition as good.
>>161267201
it's for when you want to be an asshole but don't want to play dirtrune
>>161266952
Those two elf decks play very different from each other. It's like playing zoo or handlock. If they make another viable elf deck that's also different in playstyle then even better.
>>161267085
>Don't bother. We'll be seeing this "b-but it has 40% win rate in d rank!" excuse from Elf and solitaire for the rest of the game's lifespan.
It had a 51.2% winrate IN MASTERS last month
That's lower than tempo, lower than stormhaven, lower than midrange sword, lower than seraph, lower than control sword, lower than face dragon even lower than fucking Ramp and midrange dragon
PTP is fine you shitter
Tempo's the fucking strong deck
>>161267194
>storm haven
IS actually the cheapest t1 deck right now
>>161267201
It was core in pre-DE control haven
It was the best haven deck and it was tier 3 or 4, I dont even remember
>>161266952
What's wrong with a deck staying strong? What's wrong with a class having multiple good decks?
Midrange Sword has been tier 1 since forever and there's way less complaining about them. Why is that?
>>161267196
30 shadows is very difficult to reach
>You are going second and all you important draws never come
>Swordcraft has all 3 Floral fencers and two assassins
>>161267334
And it will be a difference of 2 card playsets again. Joy.
>actually like the story missions
when will we get more?
>>161267093
Post the animated one
>>161267419
Because midrange sword is a mindless boring deck.
>>161267429
Please tell me you didnt type this with a straight face
>>161267371
Sunshine was t3.
Where is the new expansion la?
>>161267429
stop
>>161267508
this. you play this game for fun right?
>>161267419
>Midsword strawman
>>161267574
not me, Cygames
https://shadowverse.com/news/important/news-0025
Gonna start my sandbagging wish me luck
>>161267429
No. No it isn't. In fact, 30 shadows being very easy to reach is kind of why PtP is good.
>>161267429
>>161267429
>>161267649
How is it a strawman?
People whine about how Elf has always been good and they desperately need nerfs, but so has Sword. And right now, Midrange Sword has a much better win percentage than PtP does, and it also has a slightly better win percent than Tempo.
>>161267774
>and it also has a slightly better win percent than Tempo.
only factoring in low ranks
>>161267686
Holy shit, the amount of Steamfags hearing this for the first time
>>161267723
>Free evolves with fairies.
>Underpowered.
huh I didn't realise that the cards in your hand stay half cost after you destroy phoenix roost, th-thanks satan dork
been a while sinc eive been here. any new decks people been messing with?
>>161267574
>>161267706
Hello newfriends. Enjoying the Steam Release?
You fuckers should be glad you never saw PtP in its prime. Imagine a world where Harvest Fest was 2pp and 5pp Homecoming was a 3x of.
why is it so apparent that all the svg shitters complaining about ptp have never played against the deck in their lives, let alone play it themslves
>>161267774
And yet PtP Forest is still the top tournament deck
Hmm....
>>161267496
What I want to know is when can we play shade Eris in multipleplayer?
When can we play as Nexus?
When I do get a depressed Urias emote where he says "All that's left is time"
>>161267904
>It was good before so that means it isn't good now
You stupid?
>>161267863
Yeah I thought I was pretty clever the first time I did that with Odin
>>161267887
there's a ptp rune list with 80% winrate in masters
>>161267904
Wow you played a causal japanese mobage before me, you are amazing
>>161267905
Because after you play ptp and tempo you'll realize how much better tempo is. I only play ptp now because it's fun. If I really wanted to win I'd be playing tempo.
>>161268008
dirtrune is good as fuck and people who think otherwise are actual shitters
Thats it
Im done...
New thread at
>>161267984
>>161267984
>>161267984
>>161267951
Who are you quoting?
>>161268064
based
>>161268064
Really dude?
>>161268064
so early
>>161268064
i feel like we've been through this before
>>161268064
early much? we got 70 posts left
>>161268064
thank you very much for this 60 posts early thread
>>161267774
Sure, if you count every fucking d rank retard who's never played a CCG in their life. Royal is more retard friendly, it will always do better below AA than Elf and Witch, even if the class became Vampire tier next expansion.
Meanwhile, people are making up the same old tired excuses for Elf. Even back when it had fucking 55% win rate prior to Home Coming nerf, every fucking post complaining about Elf is "git gud" "learn match up" and every other none argument dismissive post you can think of. Royal has always been the scapegoat for Elf players, especially when the Home Coming nerf hit, and everyone went "it's all over Otomeme will dominate the game". Yet, here we are now, Elf is at the top still, but this time it's 2 Elf decks, not one.
>>161267931
Nexuscraft soon
>>161268064
Fuck off retard
>>161268165
he's doing it because the hearthstone babby is making early threads again
>>161268248
Thanks for understanding.
>Pulled off a Seraph win in Take-Two vs a Rune with a shitload of fucking removal and tanky minions
Get fucked you taunt-spamming faggot
>>161268248
why do you retards even care
there shouldn't even be a /hsg/ in the op, it's childish as fuck
What i can do to refine this.
I'm at rank A if this can help something
>>161268191
And even in AA and Master's it has a very high winrate, higher than PtP, and it's a mainstay in all tournaments, and actually performed better than PtP even before DE despite what people claim? Did you know that PtP was its only bad match-up before? Pretty impressive.
Face it friend, Swordcraft is just as stupidly broken as Forestcraft is. Why do Sword players like to defend their broken class so much? At least Forest players admit they're broken.
>>161268396
time to graduate to a real deck
okay vampy fags gimme your best blood aggro deck i'm going to convert
I've played way too much Sword in Take-Two as of recent, pick for me ya' nerds.
@161268478
>swordcraft is as broken as forestcraft
doesnt even deserve a (you)
>>161268478
>At least Forest players admit they're broken.
>>161267357
>>161266529
>>161266082
I sure enjoyed the grand finals of "who draws the Altered Fate first" mirrors.
>>161268396
Drop conscription. Add another Alwida's.Just play Midrange Sword already
>>161268707
Sword
>>161268707
Blood
Create a drain based legendary for Bloodcraft.
Hard mode: the card has to make drain based decks viable.
>tfw
And i will chose dragon because is most likely to get 5-0
>>161268708
http://shadowlog.com/trend/2016/46/0/
Statistics don't lie.
>>161268720
ptp is forest card now? it's so obvious your only experience with ptp forest is the tournament stream
>>161268773
>>161268839
Y'all ain't making this easy on me.
>>161268909
Shadow
>>161268843
5mana 8-1 drain rush
>>161268043
>Because after you play ptp and tempo you'll realize how much better tempo is. I only play ptp now because it's fun. If I really wanted to win I'd be playing tempo.
Yeah this is what's fucking stupid
Anyone who looks at numbers can see ptp isn't stronger than anything else whilst tempo is
And anyone who actually fucking plays them knows that tempo is miles better
>>161268879
Keep moving those goal posts. You'll win eventually, because people will get tired of arguing with a literal retard.
>>161268843
Healy Mary
During your turn, heal any health done to your leader to the enemy leader instead
>>161269000
> people will get tired of arguing with a literal retard
doesn't happen, i have plenty of fun posting with you
>>161268720
It was one tournament stream, between two teams who both featured ptp players and decks ptp counters
Like fucking hell it was a prepared setting where if you lost you played your second deck. Of course they were running ptp as a counter
>>161268972
>Implying people arguing PtP is OP as hell actually look at the statistics
Hell, I'm guessing most of them have never even played against the deck and are just bandwaggoning.
Now arguing that PtP was broken as hell pre-DE is another story.
>>161268396
Drop either Avant or Conscription
Replace Vanguard with Mentor's teaching
Drop WSS
add third Novice and Alwida's
>>161267842
>They got Olivia and used 6
>I only used one, honest
The board space it takes up makes getting Tia off without spells annoying, though.
Can kind of understand how someone might think that if they didn't know shit about Forestcraft though. Other class traits and synergies are pretty straight forward and clear, Forest card combos rely on reading different expensive cards and doing more than shitting out 1/1s just because they're playable.
>>161268940
Shadow it is! Now what? For refference I already got Mordecai and Andras so that Gilgamesh ain't looking all that swell right now - given I also was forced to pick Curse of Rebirth and Phantom Howl but that fucking Demonic Strike is looking real good right about now.
>Never had a problem with sword
idk if my opponents are just bad or you guys are
>Enemy has lethal
>Concede
>Just as I concede I see him attack my follower instead of attacking face
FUCK
play duelyst
>>161269417
probably because swordcraft isn't a bullshit craft
>>161269417
It all depends on what deck you have.
Ramp dragon shits all over forest, ptp and tempo.
That does not mean ramp dragon is OP.
>>161269417
Your personal experience means jack shit when compared to actual statistical evidence anon.
What rank are you and what deck do you play?
>>161269504
>Abysshitter
>>161269504
I can't get past the pixel art. Everyone else seems to love it so I guess it's just not for me
>>161269567
Good god son you're defensive, I just made an offhand comment
>>161269625
Same, it just looks horrible
>>161269504
I'd rather play yugioh dungeon dice monsters.
>>161269663
>>161269663
>offhand and retarded comment about balance implying everyone who disagrees are shitters
Is midrange sword or banner sword better?
>>161269504
The characters look like trannies
>tfw your 10 win streak is finished by aggro dragon
By the time he unleashed his second evolved dork I knew the memes ended here.
>>161269504
Those character portraits are god awful
>>161269797
>idk
I assume you know what that means?
>>161269807
midrange is better
>>161269920
Are you retarded or pretending
>>161269447
Did they need that attack for lethal though? I've had one game where it was long and close but I'd obviously lost, full board and turn they start using every card and evolving. I didn't have the patience for someone being an asshole but as I concede they hit something on board.
Made me wonder, but they did have complete overkill for board damage so I really doubt they'd missed lethal and were just going for "look at all my epic win resources" BM.
>>161270003
Stop avoiding the question
>>161270060
They had 10 attack on board and an evolve left, I had 12HP. Unless they had something to play from their hand to do extra damage they needed that attack to kill me.
>>161270280
>>161270280
>>161270280
NEW THREAD
I have 3 garudas and just pulled an al'miraj so garuda storm is gonna be my first competitive deck.
Question though, is Urd worth it? I only have one.
>>161270313
Do we really have to go through this song and dance again?
>>161270172
I always miss evo for 2 damage lethals, but only when the board is really one-sided in my favour anyway so I'm not looking for reach that hard. Then I see it and feel really bad. They could have, though.
>Robin Hood will protect me from lethal for one turn if he can't be removed
>Get hit in the face by the 5/not 1 health follower
>Get Demonic Strike to face
I deserved it.
>>161270759
>Cthulhucraft
Lovecraft, when?!?!?
>>161270343
Yes. You get a lot of value from Urd'ing your own Birds and Regal Falcons.
concede or play
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