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Fierce and gallant duo edition

Old>>160985367

>Patch 1.09 Info
http://www.jp.playstation.com/op/bloodborne/news/2015/12/update109.html

>Accessing the DLC
http://www.bloodborne-wiki.com/2015/09/the-old-hunters.html
Note: If the eye isn't showing up, go to: Settings > Playstation Network/Account Management > Restore Licenses

>Co-Op & PvP
http://www.bloodbell.com/
Official PvP Chalice: hizzngr3 (Pthumeru Root)
/bbg/ Fight Club:
Pthumeru - n6rc9jh8
Loran - jjpkdcgd
Isz - 9v8qndas
(every Saturday 6pm EST, general rules:http://imgur.com/1RjNbF4)

>Resources Pastebin - Planners, Calculators, Spreadsheets, Stats Info, Where to go next in BB, Guide Scans & Wikis
http://pastebin.com/aNR8TXUr

>Chalice Pastebin - General Info, Glyphs for Gems, Best Gems Setups, Multiplayer & Speedrunning
http://pastebin.com/489M5NBv

>Media Pastebin - OSTs, Concept Art & Screenshots
http://pastebin.com/t8byCxfj

>Beasthood & Claws Info
http://pastebin.com/jnbs35ZX

>Wheel, Fight Club, Arc 101 & other Misc. Info
http://ssjnugget.imgur.com

>Bloodborne Damage Calculations and Formulas
http://pastebin.com/YnRRZPMp

>Google Document for all the above, but easier to read.
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1sItpr6PHpoEiFbtFIBtPO4UNeNEpxuztHteANTJRHDU/edit#heading=h.od90ylbez0rz
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First for why don't you wanna wake up?
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>>161074974
I will forget everything
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Second for bullying Amelia

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ms12ftbQv7U&feature=youtu.be

Full video is still being made, but I wanted to show off the level 10 kill
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>>161075039
What do you forget?
What gems should I go grab and what drops them?
I'm a level 60 with 35 strength, 30 vitality and 25 endurance so far not much in the way of other levels, I increased my skill and bloodtinge and bit and may increase my skill a little more as I don't know what to do level wise outside Vitality and strength.
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>>161075449
>25 End
Restart
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>>161075449
>25 endurance
You can delete your character
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Asked in the last thread, is the reiterpallasch worth it for a pure skl build til i get the rakuyo, or just stick with the cane/saw spear?
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>>161075610
>>161075708
I had no idea runes were a thing and gave me a boost of stamina with a decent percentile. It doesn't bother me in the slightest as while it sucks some levels out of me this is fine by me however my questions weren't answered.
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>>161075756
It's a pretty good weapon. I like it a lot more than the cane, but objectively it's weaker than spear.
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>>161075449
>25 END
First playthrough I guess. I sugest playing blind. Upgrade your favorite weapon to at least to +6. Use the gems you find, there's no need to do dungeons when you're not PvPing or cooping. Level VIT when you think you're taking too much damage. Bring strength to 50 or so.
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>>161075861
Yeah first playthrough I took hunters axe and it's done by me fairly well. I'm probably more a soulsfag in regards to END as I prefer mobility and generally can dodge most attacks eventually even if it takes a few encounters to learn attacks of something. I've only had a few area's which I'd say damage was total horse shit like late game with my VIT I'm having difficulties as one hit does 500+ damage in one go and this is normal, the nightmare zone I'm on the second one is a sack of shit. My hunters axe is 9+ by the way and I can keep leveling strength. I actually ran out of blood vials so I need to go farm those a bit more. I'm still figuring things out but have been piecing together the story of the game myself but unsure about specific things still. I may buy the DLC and go for that before I complete the game but I doubt I'm that far yet.
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>>161076019
If you're at Nightmare of Mensis you're almost finished. Go see areas you didn't explore yet or just keep doing it. The DLC is the most fun part of the game, if you do buy it, you're at the perfect time to start it but be aware it's hard as dicks. If you see fire don't wake up.
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>>161075756
It's a pretty good PvP weapon, but Cane/Spear are better for PvE.
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>>161076273
>Almost finished.
Shit I knew it, I just had some feeling I was already done I finished this game faster than Demon's Souls and it's not as long as Dark Souls 1 was. I doubt the DLC is all that hard but I've never played it as long as enemies don't hit fucktons of damage automatically we're good. I've seen almost everything as I'm quick, thorough and generally speaking really curious to see every nook and cranny.
So what do I do now anyways the Chalice dungeons? I don't have PSN+ to play alongside people and the DLC ain't gonna be purchased anytime soon.
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Farming gems for the first time, using the BY68ZGAJ glyph. Does item discovery have an effect on what gems you get or should I just keep using my clawmark and moonrunes?
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>>161077171
For Boss gems no, for mobs it increases drop rate. Item Discovery affects Chunk/Rock droprates for bosses.
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JESUS FUCK WHOEVER MADE THE ENEMY IN FRONT OF LAWRENCE NEEDS TO BE LYNCHED I JUST LOST 1.2 MIL EXHOES TO IT FUCK
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>>161077329
thanks
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>>161077345
but why fight him when hes so easy to sneak past
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>>161077420
FUCK OFF
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>>161077345
Just run past him. If you had that much echoes racked up it sounds like you didn't need them in the first place.
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>>161077606
IM BL62 AND I FORGOT TO SPEND THEM
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>>161077660
>I forgot to spend 1.2M echoes
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>>161077660
How do you forget to spend a million echoes?
I spend mine whenever I can get 2-5 levels in one go at most 5 levels in one go as around that point I'd lose over 120k and that's awful.
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>>161077864
>>161077859
STOP BULLYING
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>>161077925
How about you stop being a dumbass and use your blood echoes when you get a chance?
You could have bought items with that much too!
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I just got a 22.3% bolt gem + 7.8 flat physical from a saw spear hunter

And it's a circular gun gem

Can this be used?
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>>161078236
No
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I'm doing an arc build. Should I go full meme and have 99 arc or invest more in hp?
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>>161078575
How high are you aiming for? Cruel Fate: 35/99 puts you at 120. 40/70 at 96, and 40/90 at 116.
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>>161078713
>40/70 at 96
This will probably be it.
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Who coop?
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How do you get to the Blood Starved Beast without triggering Djura?
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>>161079143
It's after BSB that you can befriend Djura.
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>>161079212
So it is okay if he starts shooting me, if I want to befriend him
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>>161078925
If you're going for 98, I'd put the last 2 points into Skill for the Saif.
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>>161079235
No.
As far as I know you have to kill DBP, enter Old Yharnam from the backside and meet Djura.
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>>161079235
Yeah. After BSB you'll wanna come to him from the back without triggering him, BSB's or Paarl's lamp.
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>>161078942
i need help with failures, sl 68 pass bbg
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>>161079235
Kill BSB, meet Paarl (you don't need to kill him just see his life bar) and go from either one of these two lanterns to Djura.
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>>161079417
Alright. You from US and A? Cuz I am from Europe so excuse my shittery if I can't help you enough. Ringing in 2-5 mins.
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If one were to stand infront of Lady Maria and perhaps jerk off, would she stop playing dead, or would she still sit there?
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>>161079564
yeah im a burger
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>>161079360
You have to kill bsb to even get to Paarl, and bsb is through Djura.
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>>161079614
She would get up, not because of the fapping but she must poop.
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>>161079614
tfw no bukkake sex with Maria-sama
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>>161076647
Only do chalices if you plan to play online (gems) or for killing the last boss (trophy). I recomend going into NG+ as chalices don't get harder and some materials become available for purchase. Don't do root dungeons without knowing what you are doing, it's a waste if time.
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>>161079715
You reach out to touch her with your hand and she grabs it. What if you tried to poke her with your dick? Would she grab that too?
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>>161079824
Well what dungeons are even worth doing for crap like physical gems, or what do I actually want as a strength build?
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>>161079837
Don't give me weird ideas anon
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>>161079893
See the OP
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>>161079564
thanks dude, want to do maria as well
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>>161079652
Lmaoo what was that for a face?
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>>161079927
What if your character never backed away? Would you just spend long moments gazing into her eyes? Would she blush?
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How hard would ludwig be with a +7 saw spear?
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>>161080114
She's dead until you reach out for her so ejaculating on her face would count as necrophilia I guess
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>>161080161
Yeah but I'm talking about when you finally do reach out for her and the cutscene plays, but your character never moves to back away from her. Does she just keep staring into your eyes with your cum on her face?
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>>161079956
Right. I'll see what I can find.
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>>161080229
>Does she just keep staring into your eyes with your cum on her face?
I-I don't know but suddenly I feel like it's somehow very important
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Overall, how good is a Pure arcane build? I get the impression it's a lot of Gem farmer for your weapon
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>>161078236
That's useless.
Guns can't even be converted in the first place.
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>>161080307
It's great.
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tfw no good Maria hentai
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>>161080307
It's great but you have to go through CDs a lot yeah
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It was close my friend. Next time we get her.
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>>161080229
It's too bad that Maria is confirmed to be a lesbian by Miyazaki in an interview.
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>>161080450
Wouln't that make her reaction all the better though? She's probably never had some one cum on her face before, and now she has to play dead while some random hunter jerks off on her.
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>>161080529
poison knives png
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>>161080019
Let's do this: in the last stage let maria only attack me. Because of lag she will barely hit me.
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>>161080704
alright, her combo attacks kill me instantly
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>>161080128
Not hard. Use Fire Paper and BBP to make him even easier.
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>>161080734
Spam hmls or something like that. To be safe from all her attacks you need to be like 10 meters away
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>>161080793
fuck that was my bad i dodged in the wrong direction
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>>161080893
Nvm. I died at least 50 tomes to her :D
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>>161080982
fuck yeah, thanks for the help man
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>>161080982
>:D
Was geht Bernd.
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I have all first row items bought, what should I buy with my echoes now? Shards?

>>161081145
Youre welcome senpai.
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>>161081270
Nichts, aber ich bin nicht bernd
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do people still play this game enough for me to be able to farm coopings of bossu and such?

I miss the hell out of it.
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>>161081575
also what's most populated, NG or NG+?
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give me ideas for cute things to draw, i need to practice with my new tablet.
i'll probably post them when i'm done but don't bully me, i'm not very good
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>>161081879
Maria, messengers, a brain sack
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>>161081879
draw lady maria blushing
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>>161081879
draw END Yourself getting tickled by a kos parasite
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>>161081683
NG and NG+ is not separated, and it's been a while since I've cooped outside of /bbg/ so I wouldn't say, but bosses like orphan or ludwig are quite active
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>>161081879
Imposter Iosefka teaching celestial children about reproduction
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anyone got any cool low depth chalices
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>>161082464
oh isn't it? what about the level difference?
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>>161081879
Ebrietas making macaroni
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HOW THE FUCK DO I KILL THE SHARK MAN FUCKER INSIDE THE WELL
WHAT THE FUCK IT'S THE STRONGEST ENEMY IN THE GAME
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>>161083119
Use your dick Anon. I believe in you!
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>>161083119
Shaman Boneblade if you can manage to get the first anchor shark to 50% of his health.
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Anyone need help? I don't have any chalices open on this character but I can lend a hand on anything else.
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what is the most absolute madman weapon and why is it steak driver
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>>161083726
I didn't find it to be all that great
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>>161083785
its not even good but it makes you a madman
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>>161083119
Brute force

I'm currently farming heavy abyssals and I can kill FRC headless in about 40 seconds with a fully gemmed pizza cutter, fire paper and bug pellets

Reckon I would obliterate those horsecock shark fucks if I went back
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>>161083861
I doubt.
I swear this thing cannot be killed.
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>>161083119
Have you defeated kos? Ring a bell and let's take em out together
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>>161082953
It's in the OP but iirc it must be a 20 levels range
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>>161084095
Not that guy, but put a password and I'll help you get your Rakuyo.
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>>161084095
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>>161084103
>>161084163
>tfw no ps+
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>>161084287
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>>161080450
Source?

t./u/
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>>161080450
Seconding on the source
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>>161084095
Summon me and I will show you an anchovy pizza, friendo
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>Enemies are allowed to animation cancel attack more than once

fucking why, they got unlimited stamina/ammo
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Who needs a hand? Name the pass and place.
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Which is better between the church pick and burial blade?
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>>161085241
Both strong. I prefer the moveset on the Pick.
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>>161085336
Hmm, i just something with some range to compliment my rakuyo
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>>161084616
Animation cancel your animation cancel with cancellation on your priority. Are you sure enemies have infinite stamina and I know they got infinite bullets though.
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>>161085241
Church pick
>better against beast and kin type enemies due to serrated and thrust

Burial blade
>better against groups
>better reach, which is useful against some bosses like amygdala
>higher damage than church pick against neutral type enemies

both movesets are good in their own ways, but I personally prefer BB in most situations
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>>161085515
What's Burial Blade and where can I acquire one, and does it scale to strength?
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>>161085515
Nice, thanks for the breakdown m8, the uncanny is the best version of the BB right?
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>>161085650
You can pick up the Uncanny version from a Lower Loran glyph, or mark out of Gehrman's fight.

And yes, it scales with Strength. Skill and Arc too, though. If you want to use it on a Strength build, just put some Heavy Abyssals on it--one or two.
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>>161085650
Look for anon's post above for location. Also, it benefits more from skill than from strength, though you can put some heavy abyssals on it so it scales off of strength better
>>161085743
yes
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>>161082768
iosefka a cute!

>>161081960
>>161081967
>>161083012
coming soon

>>161082415
wut
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>>161085754
>>161086303
I have no idea where to acquire heavy abyssal's. Welp time to look at the OP again!
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>>161086379
Cute, anon
Keep up the good work!
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>>161086379
cute!!!
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Which frc chalice is easiest to make? Just started doing cd's on my new character. Last time i went for pthumeru ihyll but I'm wondering if there's a faster/cheaper way.
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>>161086379
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>>161086450
Yeah, the OP really has all the information you need. Here's a website, though: http://www.bloodborne-wiki.com/2015/10/individual-blood-gems.html
>>161086482
You can make FRC Isz or Loran. Those are usually the ones people make first.
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Hows this look for a BL110 STR/ARC build?
VIT 45
END 18
STR 25
SKL 12
BLT 5
ARC 55
I'm thinking of maybe dropping 5 points from ARC and placing them in STR or VIT, or dropping 3 points from END and placing them in ARC, STR, or VIT.
Opinions?
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>>161086379
for reference
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>>161086556
I'm keeping that. That's perfect.
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>>161086586
I'd drop the 5 points from ARC, and 3 from END. Those 5 points really aren't doing you any good whatsoever, and are hardly worth it. If you can do without the 3 END, go for it.

Move 5 points into VIT.
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>>161086746
Alright, thanks.
Also, for Logarius' Wheel is Lost or Uncanny better?
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>>161086379
It feels rather rapturous
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>>161086579
what the hell are half of these gems?
Have I even been to Ithyll?
This is going to take a while.
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>>161087154
The gems are labelled. Just look for what you need. In your case, heavy abyssals, which are strength scaling gems. The website tells you the shape, the glyph, and the layer boss you need to farm.
Also, Ihyll is accessed after you finish Defiled Pthumeru. You also need to have made an FRC dungeon before being able to enter that glyph, so make an FRC Loran/Isz, preferably Isz to farm your 27.2% gems from the Watchers.

You'll get the hang of it all. Kinda confusing at first.
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>tfw just found out sharp abyssals don't exist
>can't use whirlgig on my skill build
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>>161087338
So to get the best gems I farm specific chalice dungeons?
Man that's gonna take a while I'm really slow when it comes to these things as I take my time, still I'm at the end of the game so I should be okay with my hunters axe for the dungeons.
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Anyone need help?
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>>161087418
Yep, basically you farm specific bosses in the FRC dungeons. HBLB for Heavy Abyssals, Elder for Cold Abyssals, etc.
Your Hunter's Axe should be fine. You'll pick up good gems along the way to improve, and be able to farm for the best once you access the glyphs. Non-Layer 1 bosses are usually savescummed, though.
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>>161087657
>>161085032
>>161083612
why so hungry for co-op?
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>>161087968
Because it's fun.
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>>161087968
They're lonely
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>>161083012

still working on the other ones

>>161086621
>>161086556
thanks anons
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>>161088101
This is too adorable
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>>161088101
Fucking CUTE. I love you anon <3
Saved.
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>>161087968
Is it all the same person making those posts all the time?
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>>161087418
I was also confused at first but now I'm farming my very own Isz Watchers for as long as the last milion echoes FUCK ATK DOWN
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How to see the last blood gem that you have farmed?
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anybody got a glyph for a layer 2 keeper of the old lords? I couldnt find one in the OP and i want to farm cursed sharp damps
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>>161089541
>Cursed sharp damps
Why? For what weapon even?
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>>161086848
Normal for STR Wheel
Lost for ARC WHEEL
Uncanny wheel is garbage
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>>161088280
I've still gotta go through dungeons so I can unlock chalices so it may take some time.
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>>161089541
>i want to farm cursed sharp damps
No you don't.
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>>161086621
>>161086556
>>161082415
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what are the best gems for hmls
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>>161089672
Uncanny Wheel is for strength builds and normal is garbage, you mean. Default Wheel has a waning slot and you want blunt gems in a strength Wheel.
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I have 50 str and 25 skill
How do I get the most AR out of saw spear?
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>>161090031
It's great.
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>>161090232
By going 25/50 instead.
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>>161090031
beautiful! thank you kind anon
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>>161090232
With a heavy abyssal.
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Should i use the saw spear or the cane? What about a secondary weapon?
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>>161090367
Whichever you want, really. Saw Spear is easy mode. You can easily do both, though.
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>>161090336
One? Two?
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what is the most stylish weapon
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>>161090034
25/50 Nourishings, 50/25 Nourishings or Temperings, possibly with one Heavy.
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>>161081960
>>161081967
a quick muh ria

thanks for all the compliments everyone! this was fun.
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>>161090651
both burial blade and the church pick are pretty stylish.
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>>161090779
what a CUITE!!!
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>>161090827
what is the most cuhrayzee weapon
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>>161090907
my dick
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>>161090591
1 HA and (2)27.2% gems works best. You get an AR of 629 + 15 (assuming a +15 secondary) = 644.
Pretty cool that you also get the same AR with (2)HAs and a single 27.2%, assuming the abyssals have +15 secondaries.
1 HA is best, though, because 629 > 614 as modified damage. With 2 HA, that extra 30 is only flat damage.

I'd post the calcs, but they're tedious to type out. Unless you want me to?

>>161090779
Great work, anon. Nice to see so many talented drawfags in here.
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>>161090938
THANK YOU ANON!
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>>161090779
Hnnngg
What a cutie!
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>>161090907
>tfw a bolt converted ludwig's is as close as we can get to Alastor
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>>161091347
at least we can use the pallasch and an offhand pistol as ebony and ivory
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Can anyone help at Orphan of Kos? I'm 77.
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>>161091769
Sure, let me boot up
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Planning a hmgs build.

https://mugenmonkey.com/bloodborne/20172
Should I change anything?
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50 skl build

How good is threaded cane in regards of PvE?
been using +6 Saw Spear but not going to go past that due to gem slots
And I'd prefer having a weapon 1 handed both modes since parrying or shooting a bullet is good enough
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>>161091769
Password? And where are you ringing at?
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>>161091856
Gotta warn you I already failed miserabelly with some random guy.
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>>161091997
Password (I always ring for random people). Entrance to boss.
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>>161092002
More fun when there's a struggle, m8. No need to worry
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Finally finished ds2 and 3 and I want to go back to Bloodborne and finish up all the little things. Loaded up my game and I forgot that I'm in NG+. I know I backed up my save but can't find the flash drive.

Keep going in ng+ even if I haven't played in a year or start a new guy? I'd like to put all the time investment in my first character to use and have access to my favorite weapon from the start but if I'm rusty, I'll probably get fucked up in ng+
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>>161092107
>Password (I always ring for random people).
Wait, what?
It's best to post a password, anon. Orphan gets a ton of co-op activity, so there's a good chance I'll be summoned to a random's Orphan.
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>>161091769
ill join in
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>>161092234

Didn't even know that was possible. How so I set a password?
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>>161092332
System --> Network --> Password Matching
Set it to bbg
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>>161092332
Got to network options, you can input a password and make sure that you're set to worldwide
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Is Amath anon still here? I might be wrong but for the Uncanny Parasite I want 2x 23% +15 arcane and a 27,3% right? Does the +15 arcane really makes the diference or I can make do without it?
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>>161092389
Thanks, give me a minute.
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Round 2.
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Dear god, got bolted. Ringing again if you didn't get him, host.
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>tfw you accidentally hit someone who's bowing
:^(
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Christ... round 3...
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>>161092985
We're sure to abort him this time.
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>>161093070
is this loss
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>>161093132
This is lossm
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One hit... really.
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Y-you got space for another one for kos?
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>>161092971
>tfw you inentionally hit someone who's bowing
>:^)
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>>161093347
i got a toon who needs to get through the fishing hamlet, you can come if you want
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Thank you so much guys, I really don't think I could've done this guy alone.
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>>161093685
Where you ringing at? Pass is bbg?
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>>161093738
never mind about that turns out im retarded and i need to kill maria, want to help
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>>161093707
Glad to help, anon.
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>>161093790
I would be glad to help. Let us hoont
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>>161093901
alright im ringing
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>>161093901
if you want to do fishing hamlet too you can start ringing at the first lamp
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Ringing bbg at Maria if you guys want company. I'll run through the Fishing Hamlet too.
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How can I dodge the orphan's bolt attack? It kills me instantly
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>>161094849
When he screams and stands up to indicate he's gonna use it, run back to the cave. It won't hit you. Also remember that the lighting ALWAYS originates from Kos' carcass.
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>>161094849
The lightning always comes from Kos's corpse. It's easy to dodge if you fight orphan in the water
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>>161094849
It strikes Kos's corpse. Also, fight Orphan in the water. You get way more space to fight, and you have less of a chance of getting caught against the walls. It's easier to dodge his bolt attack from there too, as you can just run and make distance by going towards the edge.
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>>161094915
>>161095005
I see. Thanks.
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>>161094792
ill help
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You guys still running through the Hamlet? I'll come with if there's a spot left.
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>>161094849
I fucking love this attack

It actually feels like the wrath of the gods

Sprinting for your fucking life

Incredible feels

Only other ''attack'' I adore is Aldritch's Persian arrow storm, but that doesn't have the same feeling of ''you shouldn't be here, meddling with gods'' as Kos' lightning
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>>161094552
Srry for dieing.
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>>161095114
im going to help a dude with maria real quick that we can run hamlet
>>161095159
its fine, that weapon he was using does retarded damage
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>>161095139
>you will never fight Kos herself
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>>161095207
That's fine. I'm ringing in to Hamlet now, just gonna fuck around a while.
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God I hate how farmy this game is. Where can I farm for bullets easily enough?
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>>161095336
Lecture Building. You'll get plenty of echoes to spend, and the students there drop QSBs.
You can also hit Ailing Loran layer 1 for echoes.
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>>161094792
you still ringing?
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>>161095336
>God I hate how farmy this game is
It isn't if you're not bad and waste your resources
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>>161092451
2 23.1%+15 Radials and a 27.2% Triangle yeah, or swap one Radial for a Cold Abyssal since it's easier to farm. The +15 Arc secondary kinda matters but you could do without it.
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>>161095416
Yeah, at Hamlet. Need me for Maria?
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alright ringing at first hamlet lamp
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>nothing but shitkage evelyn spammers in mensis tonight
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>>161095817
If I had PSN+ I'd give you a challenge. I'm not the most deft but I got some skill and I do love PVP in these games. ]spoiler] Why does it have to pay to go online DAMN IT
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How do you make a good looking face in BB
i can make decent looking characters in ds2 and 3 but here everything looks like a fucking abomination, what's the secret please
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>>161096093
Male or female?

Either way there really isn't a "secret". You just have to get used to how all the different options impact eachother, and make your changes incrementally while keeping an eye on everything.
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>>161096093
Copy someone's sliders or take a long time messing with it while looking at references.
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>>161096549
Well, my main problem is with female faces and how the shape of the head, eyes and jaw/cheeks all seem fucked no matter how much I fiddle with the options. Making one part look better seems to immediately fuck up something else
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good kos kill guys, sorry i couldnt do it with my saw, broke when i was killing trash
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>>161096930
Had a good time!
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>>161096930
Was fun! That was seriously gangrape though.
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>been trying to kill orphan for the past 3 hours with no success
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>>161096747
BB's faces are really gaunt.

Try going into the general face options (top-most tab IIRC) and making the face slightly more, "convex" I think is word they use.

Also, for the eyes, moving them farther apart/closer together changes their In/Out orientation. If you want down-turned/up-turned eyes, or to move them laterally without changing their shape, you have to move them incrementally laterally, then in or out, then laterally, then in or out, etc.
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>>161097262
Put a password and I'll help!
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>>161097262
Ringading your beckoning bell so I can help you shitstomp him with the power of autism gems
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>>161097078
>>161096972
if you guys want some more coop we can do fixed lower loran
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>>161097329
>>161097373
>no ps+
I hate sony
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Is the Church Pick viable for a STR build?
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>>161097317
I hadn't though of changing the general face sliders. i'll try that, thanks
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>>161097418
There's a free two week trial you can repeat infinitely by making new accounts
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>>161097262
What setup do you use?
I killed him second try with kirkhammer +9 3 +20% gems by rolling, slamming, rolling, slamming.
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>>161097530
25Str, 50 Skl Pick:
Church Pick
176+[(176*.4*.5)+(176*.7*.85)]*2.058075648=(176+35.2+104.72)2.058075648 = 650

50Str, 25Skl Pick:
Church Pick
176+[(176*1.05*.85)+(176*.7*.5)]*1.617984=(176+157.08+61.6)1.617984 = 638

>tl;dr
Yes.
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>>161097596
No, you need a new credit card/paypal for that.
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>>161097758
>all that math
jesus try to contain the autism
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>>161097836
Fuck off.

>>161097758
Thanks. Right now I've got 50 STR and very little SKL.
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>>161097530
Yes

Currently rocking one now, heavy abyssal w/ +15 flat and 2 32% thrusting gems

Gotta be careful knowing which attack counts as thrust but it is incredibly rewarding

Butchered dozens of chikage scum in the frontier last night with it
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>>161097836
>Math is autism
lel, you're an incompetent faggot aren't you Anon?
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>>161097836
It's basic math.
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>>161097969
That was just copypasta but I think the math is actually wrong on the Str version. Let me double check and get back to you.
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>>161097596
>by making new accounts
But I can only use it on one account.
>>161097625
Arcane. I use Beasthunter Saif, which seems to work best. I currently only have problems with his second form, mostly because it suffer from this game's biggest flaw; awful camera. He keeps jumping all over the place and is so hard to predict, and I can't even keep track of what's happening because of the shitty camera..
brb have to farm vials again
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>>161097969
>>161098048
Nevermind, I'm retarded. .4+.65 being 1.05 just didn't look right for some reason. One of those days.

The gem setup on the Str version is one +65 Heavy Abyssal and two +27.2 Physicals
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>>161097418
https://youtu.be/lbeAQdWUdZI
Could you pleath look if thith method of free psn trial workth?
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what weapon do i use on my next toon
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>>161098518
wheel
if you've already used wheel, than do stake driver or reiter
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>>161098518
>toon
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>>161098635
done all 3
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>>161098670
meme claws
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>>161098795
does the coop glitch for them still work because i want to be able to get my weapon early
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>>161084287
where you from, anon?
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>>161098891
No
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>>161099248
I'm a really, really poor Canadian.
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>>161099248
are you hitting on me?
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>>161099354
fugg :DDD
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>>161099362
>>161099383
no i'm not. I just have a leftover code I can't use but it's not gonna work in canada
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>>161099998
A PSN code?
I'm sure it will with PS4 being not region locked. If not fuck Sony, and fuck this console.
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>>161099998
I do have the 14 days free trial, although I'm hesitant to use it.
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jesus christ the pthumerian descendent has some awful hitboxes
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>>161100223
He's the one boss I always have to resort to panicked parrying to defeat. Guy just fucks my shit up.
But, nobody is able to put a complete stop to my FRC exploring efforts the way Loran Darkbeast does.
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>>161100439
just lost 145k echoes at sl 54 to him because of the spin attack where he hits you from behind, stupid garbage
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Anyone wants to run through story isz with me? Not really in the mood to finish it alone.
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Is there anything worse than Shadows of Yharnam at BL4 on NG+2 and above? I've never felt so overwhelmed before, even the shitty fireballs oneshot me
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>>161100576
i would to but im too lazy to kill ebritass
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>>161100916
Shall I help you eith ebby?
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>>161100576
If you're still on it in a minute or two after I grab a coffee I'll join.

I don't even want to play, but I know how soul-sucking the solo chalice grind is.
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>>161101145
nvm im dumb and i actually did kill her, do i need to complete the chalice before im able to coop?
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>>161101254
No need to complete it but you do have to open it up.
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How to I max out my damage on a Crowsteel build gemwise? Going with 25/50 SKL BLT.
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Anyone wanna help me with Lower Loran? Abhorrent and Camera Beast are a pain.
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>>161101340
fuck im one level 5 blood short form being able to make it, ill grind for it if you are still at it
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>>161100875
Pass and I'll SRRC
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>>161101254
>>161101236
I am currently on layer 2. pass is bbg
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>>161101393
password?
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>>161101656
Pass is camera beckoning at L3
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>>161101732
gimme a couple and ill be on my way
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>>161101491
On my way via SRRC. It works the fastest if you sit still at the lamp, if you don't mind.
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>>161101491
i got the blood be ringing in a bit
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>>161101732
>>161101886
ok ringing now
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>>161101342
27% Phys gems

I think some people get meme'd on when it comes to BLT weapons. I have had to explain more than once in the past month that BLT damage is boosted by Phys gems.
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New player here, what the basic shit I need to know?
Not liking it so far, being able to just randomly run into bosses when playing blind making you lose all your souls is pretty terrible
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my bad, a little rusty on the timing
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>>161102484
saw spear
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>>161102484
CHECK THE FUCKING OP
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>>161102072
I almost got him. Beckoning.
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>>161102484
Read the OP.
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>>161102484
level up when you have 2 or more level ups in you

buy vials

saw spear
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>>161102484
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>>161102250
All I could find was reddit and neogaf posts suggesting Lost Chikage for the BLT gems. I knew it was a good idea to check here.

Thanks senpai.
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>>161102072
Welp, there goes 2K echoes. Didn't see that coming.
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>>161102847
>2K echoes
are you missing a few zeros there?
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>>161102795
No problem champ.
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does anyone have a list of low depth chalices that have really good shit
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>>161102250
Don't BLT gems give a bigger boost tho? They go up to 31% or so while phys gems are 27%
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>>161103037
There DEFINITELY ISN'T a pastebin dedicated to that in the OP or anything...
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>>161102795
Lost Chikage is the best choice though because it's fairly easy to get a circle 31% blood up gem.
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Ringing again. Going meanwhile to the toilet
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did you get im
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>Run up to a Brainsucker
>R1 it a couple times
>Doesn't move, doesn't flinch
>R1 it a couple more times
>Suddenly goes through its entire wombocombo in .5 sec and kills me

Thanks, WiFi!
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>>161102889
200K. I'm dumb.

>>161102072
Got him with no bullets left. Thanks my confederate.
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>>161103161
none of those have good low depth ones
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>>161103156
He's running 25 SKL. BLT gems aren't as good in that context.

>>161103172
He's running 25 SKL. That's a terrible idea.

25 SKL means he's going to be using untricked mode fairly regularly. He wants 27%s so he can boost everything the weapon does. It's how he's built his character.
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>>161103395
Maybe because there are no low depth chalices with good shit? The only thing I can think of are the uncanny saws.

>>161103493
>using untricked Cheesecake
>ever
>>
Thanks for making ebby pizza with me guys. On my it would have taken much longer. Though it's sad you got killed. Now the grind for triangle gems begins...
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When using coop search in the CD's, do you ever get to enter random dungeons? So far all I got are the standard story dungeons.
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>>161104120
Yeah, it's rare, though. Not many people do FRCs for fun. It's a shame, because when you finally snag some co-op with the spelunkers, it's fun as fuck.
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>>161103395
a. Technically you're using the wrong terminology. The lower the depth, the better the shit.

What you mean are not-low depth.

b. There are some Depth 1-2-3 chalices in the doc, but mostly, yeah, no /bbg/ doesn't care about them, so there aren't many.

>>161104072
Aw I knew she was gonna laser either me or you. Figured I might as well keep smacking her.
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>>161104120
You can if you chose root chalice. If you choose standard chalice you will be put into a story one.
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>>161102921
Why the fuck does the doll have Warhammer 40K Space Marine proportions in this?
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I think I'm missing something here, im almost bl 70 with a +7 saw spear but i only have 7.5% phys gems. Just killed the shadows, do i need to be farming cd's or something? I wanna do the dlc, but i don't want to get rekt.
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>>161102484
You're supposed to die, it's not a setback, just take your time and learn shit.

Also, blood echoes don't fucking matter, you'll get to places where you can farm them and drown in them. Seriously, you'll learn to let go.
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what weapon do i use for my next character
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>>161105204
Amy Arm
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>>161105204
Do it like this 1,2 xyz
2,3 yxz
...
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>>161104223

I meant the search function the short ritual altar has.

>>161104204

People are so boring. meh.
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>>161105263
already done
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>>161105117
You're not really "missing anything" per se, but you could have much better gems if you went and did a couple chalice dungeons.

If you don't feel handicapped then there's no reason to worry about it, though.
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>>161105117
go to the dlc farm the hunters for a bit to get some good gems
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>>161105414
Kos parasite fist and Torch for Yharnam Villager mode
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>>161105797
you fucking madman
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>>161105797
Bonus: scream everytime away when killing an enemy
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Someone please help my weak ass beat Chalice Rom

Ringing at lamp with pass arcfag
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>>161106130
Srrc'ing into that bitch
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>>161106130
Let me boot up and I'll be right with you.
>>
1-2 Beast Cutter
3-4 Rakuyo
5-6 Boom Hammer
7-8 HMLS
9-0 Kirkhammer
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>>161105527
Just finished the pthumeru one, on to central now. I might just farm the watchers here.
>>161105639
Hmm, you mean like the regular guys at the beginning? Didn't know they dropped gems.
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>>161106189
>>161106201
Bless you, friends
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>>161106267
Rolling
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>>161106267
Roll.
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>>161106303
the beast cutter one drops 13% temperings iirc
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>>161103037
The preset Lower Pthumuru has farmable 20.3% gems, Lower Hintertomb has 16.5% +14 flat.

In root lower Pthumeru there are Brainsuckers, who should drop Arcane gems, they will be shit, but there's no where else to farm them until Isz Chalice's. And some root dungeons have good gems in chests, like an 18% Fire Radial (next best you can get is 16.5%).

You can also get
> Uncanny Saw Cleaver (good)
> Uncanny Threaded Cane (useless)
> Uncanny Hunters Axe (useless)
> Uncanny Rifle Spear (useless)
> Uncanny Saw Spear (good)
> Uncanny Kirkhammer (useless)
> Uncanny Stake Driver (useless)
> Lost Saw Cleaver (great for Arc build's)
> +100 Rapid Poison rune
> +100 Frenzy resist rune
> +50 all resistances rune
> +3% all damage reduction rune
> +2 bullets rune

There's glyphs for everything on the wiki.
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>>161080307
Pure arcane with absolutely no other stat investment is cheesing bosses with hunter tools and using the saw spear
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>>161106429
Nice, i appreciate it m8, those should be enough to get me through for a bit
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>>161106130
You ringing already? Seems like srrc is making me some problems
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>>161106552
I've got Gregor here and ringing
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Do I need to be on the same dungeon layer if I want to help a friend out? I deleted my progress in that dungeon.
>>
im feeling lonely rn, anyone want to go through fixed chalices with me, starting at depth 3 pthumeru
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>>161106609
Ayyyy lmaoooo
That was quick. All thanks to the power of autism gems
>>
FUCKING

A N N I H I L A T E D

Thank you, WeyP and Gregor, my lads!
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>>161107001
>>161106956
I don't think I've ever seen chalice Rom get deleted that fast before. Nicely done!
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>>161106876
pass is bbg
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Why didn't you guys tell me about these

http://esctoy.limitedrun.com/products/580658-bloodborne-vinyl-figure-set-pre-order
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>>161106420
>kirkhammer
Guess who just hit a jackpot? You!
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>>161107396
Because they're fucking stupid. What the fuck weapon is he wielding? Why is there a black Kirkhammer peice on his back? That's obviously not a Silver Sword in his hand.
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I am a useless homo
How do I beat ludwig
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anyone want to help me with ludwig?
I'm rushing moonlight greatsword really early and i can't hurt him at all
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>>161107606
Sure thing. I need a break from chalice dungeons. Pass?
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>>161107606
Let's make a tactic for bim:
Saw cleaver
Fire paper
Beasthood pellets.
Telle me the pass and I will be ringing.
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>>161107687
>>161107667
Thanks, kos123. ringing outside fog gate
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>>161106267
Roll
>>
Reminder that Yharnam is just a dream world
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spooked me when i started summoning your gregor, thanks for the help
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>Launch Bloodborne
>Sava Data corrupted

who /despair/ here?

At least it won't take more than 2 hours to speedrun a new character but muh chalice dungeons...
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>>161108085
No problem. You going to keep ringing? I don't have much to do today, so I'd be happy to keep going.
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>>161107882
Is it kos123 with or without the dot?
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>>161108182
yeah ill keep going
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>>161107882
Taking a while to connect, anon. May be a slow day
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>>161108247
without
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Can summon assist with ludwig?
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>>161108357
Pass, BL and lamp or fog?
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>>161108529
Bbg and fog
>>
sorry boys, ringing again
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>>161108587
On my way
>>
>farmed like a nigger to 107
>still a scrub
Just cuck my shit up senpaitachi
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>>161107882
Strange. It won't connect. If you see my phantom, its the one that spams transformation on the spear
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Thank you boys
>>
alright gregor last floor
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Did you guys know you'll get a different dialogue with Ludwig's head if you wear church gear? I had no idea
>>
>>161109053
Yes. Also don't kill him but reload the area.
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>>161108927
Good fun, anon.
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>>161109053
you better have answered yes
>>
hey, I got a copy from europe of the goty edition, but it seems to be from the middle east
is it censored?
>>
>>161109130
fuck, what did i miss?
>>161109156
nah, now i feel bad
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>>161108661
Thanks fampai
>>161108661
Woow im so sorry about that
>>
thanks gregor, those are some good ass gems you got
>>
Alright, I know Loran and Ihyll have those big swamp rooms, but do Isz roots have them?
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>>161109608
I am an autist what couldn't settle for less than the best.

Where to next, then?
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>>161109627
Are you shrek? Or why do you want to k ow that?
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>>161109753
i dont think that i can do loran yet, want to go through fishing hamlet
>>
Cinder lord you are the best
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>>161109827
Hamlet it is then. Ringing my small res at the lamp.
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>>161110000
You're welcome ;)
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>>161109792
Just curious. I do a lot of FRC spelunking, but I've never encountered an Isz swamp, only Ihyll and Loran variants. Wondering if they just don't exist or if I'm incredibly unlucky.
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>>161110025
>>161109827
Fuck me those hitboxes never end. I'll start ringing again at the Lighthouse Hut.
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>>161110401
that shark makes me shit my pants every time
>>
Whats the BL meta here ? I wanna join the FC and idk where to cap my character at . Im currently at 104
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>>161109294
You missed simon mercy killing him. It's nothing but a few extra dialogue and another way to get the sword.
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>>161110573
80-120
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>>161110401
fuck i dinked off the wall and i couldnt roll away, my bad
>>
>>161110573
Local meta is 98, but fight clubs go from 80-120.
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>>161110573
>>161110743
>>161110809

any way to tell what another player's level in game?
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>>161111116
There's BL calculators, but that means you gotta kill 'em first.
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anyone want to join in on orphan kill 1 slot filled pass bbg
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>>161111116
There's a pastebin in the OP that tells youbased on how many echoes they give you when they die. Other than that, no.
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>>161103493
>>161103579
Is the 25 SKL less desirable? I chose it to get a little breathing room when I'm not cutting myself and to get a little nicer viscerals which I thought was appropriate for the cosplay. I don't think dumping points into anything but VIT would be valuable, and since you can get 34 with this current allotment, and that's already fairly overkill for the invading I plan on doing in the Nightmare.

Either of you would set up a Crowsteel differently?
>>
gregor you ringing at fog?
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Which of the Hunter Tools are worth a fuck?
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>>161111814
Blacksky Eye, Accursed Brew, Executioner's Gloves, Augur of Ebrietas and Beast Roar. The rest all of their uses, but generally speaking aren't worth it.
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>>161111814
Exe Gloves, Augur, any non-scaling ones if you have low Arc (Choir Bell is meh but can be used even with Numbing Mist and unparriable). High Arc all the scaling ones except Tiny Toni, usable but situational.
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Got em! thanks for all the help gregor
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>>161111690
Not those guys but 25 Skill is kind of a waste since the untricked mode is mediocre even with 50 Skill, Blt gems go up to 31.5%, and you can just unzip after parrying for more damage than a visceral. I'd stick to 15 Skill for the Bowblade but if you're rolplaying I suppose 25 Skill is okay since Crowsteel uses untricked.

34 Vit is pretty low, minimum I'd go for is 40.
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>>161112178
No problem! I'm a little upset he went and fried me right when I was casting on Kos, but glad you got him.

Anything else, or are you good for now?
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>>161111929
>The rest all of their uses, but generally speaking aren't worth it.

Wait, what?

>>161111983
Which don't scale? I have low Arc, just wanted to spice my build up with something fun.
>>
Anyone up for a Laurence fight?
Pass is bbg
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>>161112489
nope, im good
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>>161112513
omw
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>>161112513
ill join
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>>161112574
>>161112676
Sweet at the fog
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>>161112493
Beast Roar, Empty Phantasm Shell, Old Hunter Bone, Messenger's Gift. You need 15 Arc to use all of them (10 for MG but out of all of them that and Empty Phantasm Shell are pretty useless). OHB is good for dash-r1 weapons and Beast Roar can be useful for pushing enemies/projectiles away.
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>>161112746
you ringing yet?
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>>161112574
>>161112676
U guys are the real mvps
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>>161113064
cheers big ears
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Wanting to try a pure Arcane build, anything I should be wary of?
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>>161112347
Huh, now I'm kinda conflicted. I'll go crunch the numbers I guess. Thanks anon.
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>>161113494
Being weak as shit for a long ass time
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>Over two thousand hours in Bloodborne
>Only just now discovered that the snail girls are immune to bolt damage

Huh. Neato.
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>>161113607
But that turns around, eventually?
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anyone want to do a fresh start coop run
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>>161113990
Yes.
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>>161114112
You still up for it?
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So this patches dude aint showing up at any door
I've killed the vicar and ive gone to the forbidden woods.
Anyone know what else I gotta do?
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>>161114608
yeah trying to get saw spear and some insight before any bosses rn pass is bbg
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>>161113494
Early game is piss easy with a Fire Saw Spear and Exe gloves. Farmimg gems will take a while but no where near as bad as Blt gems unless you care about specific secondaries on your Cold Abyssals.
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>>161114687
Lemme when and where you're ringing famalam
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So, how common is HBLB as a Layer 1 boss in FRC Ihyll?
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>>161115108
alright ringing at central yharnam for cleric
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>>161115781
>HBLB as a Layer 1
Ain't never seen that before.

Then again I don't spelunk in Ihyll much.
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>>161115882
Same. I mostly spelunk FRC Isz and Loran, but I just found an FRC Ihyll with HBLB as the layer 1 boss. I'm not sure if this is just an anomaly or something, so I'm going to farm it and see if it can possibly drop a Heavy Abyssal, or some higher rating scaling gems.
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>>161116002
The working theory is that only Layers 3+ can drop Abyssal gems, but, godspeed. You'd have to pay me to fight HBLB for any length of time.
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>>161115802
Oh shit sorry m8, you still waiting? Be there ASAP
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>>161116143
Yeah only Layer 3/4 bosses can drop rating 20 gems. The exception is Pthumerian descendant, who seems to be able to drop Abyssals whenever he goddamn feels like it, but there's some weird bugs with him and Elder (occasionally having eachothers boss name) so who knows.
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>>161116402
yep still here
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>>161116143
He just dropped a Rating: 19 gem.
STR scaling +50.75 with a secondary +10.4 phys ATK

I know this is as high as Layer 1 bosses go, though. But I'm going to keep pushing on, and maybe, just maybe he'll drop a rating 20. If not, I guess it was just a rare case of HBLB being layer 1.
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do autism gems make ng+ easier?
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>>161116647
Kek
What don't they make easier?
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>>161116402
asscoin time
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>>161116753
Central Yharnam lamp, yeah?
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>>161116878
yep already ringing
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>>161116878
ill be at old yharnam soon is your character father grigori
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>>161074842
hey guys need help killing micolawwwwsh xxxx <3
how come i cant ring my beckoning belllllllllllllllllll
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>the only way to reach one of the secret areas of the game early is if you're bad enough to die to an obscure sack giant hiding outside the cathedral ward
As much as I loved this game that was pure bullshit. How is anyone even supposed to find this out unless they're looking at a step by step guide online? The only reason I know about it is because I was looking up the list of available saveable NPC's after I beat the game already. I mean not only can you completely miss the giant because he's hiding in the corner, but there's no reason to even fight him if you feel you're bad enough to die to it.
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>>161117862
>How is anyone even supposed to find this out unless they're looking at a step by step guide online?

>Find enemy
>Die to it
woah that was hard
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>>161117862
>implying
Killing Cleric Beast, Papa Gascan and Bloodstarved Beast is enough to push the game into a state where the sackmen are active. If you're inquisitive, you'll likely explore the path to the right of the Grand Cathedral, which has a sackman in plain sight. Said sackman will likely kill you in 1-2 hits, depending.
t. someone who ended up in Hypogean Gaol on my first playthrough under that exact set of circumstances
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>>161117581
That's me, son

I'll be there ASAP
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>>161117962
>die to it
You're acting like he's unbeatable and the average player knows you're supposed to die to it to unlock a secret area.

>>161118025
He's not in plain sight, the nigger is hiding in the corner. And there's no reason to explore that area again since if you explored earlier you'll find the item that was originally behind the crows. Again, even if you did find him there's no reason for the player to purposely die to him. I didn't have a problem killing him on my first playthrough.
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>>161118354
>He's not in plain sight, the nigger is hiding in the corner
But I'm not talking about THAT sackman, you idiot. I'm talking about the one on the path to the right of the Grand Cathedral, which IS in plain sight. You've clearly forgotten that there's not just one sackman in the game.
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>>161118354
>You're acting like he's unbeatable
No I'm acting like he's possible to die to
Which he is
There's no "I better die to this enemy on purpose in case it does some cool shit" element to it, the 'average player' is entirely likely to die to him because... enemies try to kill you?
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>>161118354
There's more than one. There's at least 3-4 early game. And it's not that it's impossible to beat him, it's just easy to die to him so it's likely to happen on your first playthrough
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>>161118495
I didn't have trouble killing that one either. Why is the game rewarding you for dying? It goes completely against its rules.
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>>161117862
I found it on my first playthrough without knowing about it. Maybe ur just 2 gud. Get bad scrub.
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>>161118269
alright ringing at lamp
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>>161118664
I mean I am experienced in souls games, so that's probably it, I can see how a new player to the series would instantly die to it.

Still, I don't like the idea of having to die to get there without even a single hint from the game.
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>>161118582
>getting thrown into the hellish nightmare that is yahar'gul early
>reward
The only rewards to be had from ending up in Hypogean Gaol are the items you have to fight tooth and nail for, since you'll likely be there underlevelled if you investigate the right hand path straight after killing Amelia, or Cleric/Gascoigne/BSB like your average player would be on their first playthrough.

>Why is the game rewarding you for dying?
There are exceptions to established rules, and in this case it's a very well-done exception that helps reinforce the game's atmosphere and give you a glimpse into the true nature of what's going on in Yharnam.
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>>161118817
Sorry, I had played through the entire series up to be before I played bb.
Like I said, Ur just 2 gud bro. Everyone is below you.
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>>161118896
I'm not necessarily disagreeing with any of that, my biggest gripe is that there's just no way of knowing. Not everyone is going to die to the sack giants which makes the entire scenario cryptic as all hell. I don't remember any of the souls games doing something similar to this.
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>>161118817
I'm sure you didn't die to a single enemy in your first playthrough as well
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>>161119176
Of course I did, but that doesn't mean I died to the sack giants. The white axe wielding giants gave me more trouble than any of the sack giants ever did.
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>>161119175
Not everyone is going to go up the crow nest
Not everyone is going to hit every wall in case it's an illusion
Not everyone is going to cut the bridge
Not everyone is to jump down random pits in the Catacombs

What sort of whack ass logic are you operating on
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>>161119175
>Not everyone is going to die to the sack giants which makes the entire scenario cryptic as all hell
That's actually the whole point. You're not MEANT to be in Yahar'gul at that point in time. The method of entering Hypogean Gaol is deliberately obscure and designed to surprise the player. Of course it's the kind of thing that not every player will see.
I can't believe we've had this whole conversation without you realising that simple fact. Souls games (and Bloodborne) have always had obscure shit like that. Why are you acting like this is any different?
I mean, who the hell would fight Four Kings before speaking to Frampt? That's some pretty out-of-the-box thinking there.
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>>161118269
ill be ready for amelia in a bit
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>>161114112
room for one more?
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>>161119424
None of these scenarios involve you dying for a secret area which was my original point, faggot. The entire idea of souls series is to stay alive, finding a unit and having to die to it is against its own logic because there will always be players good enough to never die to it.
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>>161119606
maybe you should die more and stop playing so cautiously. start tanking enemy attacks with your face a bit more like a real man
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>>161119596
yep, getting to amelia rn
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>>161119606
>still can't grasp the concept of "exception to the rule"
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>>161119529
I'll be at the Cathedral Ward lamp m8
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Can you type the sound you hear when you gain Insight?
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>>161119676
>>161119793
Alright, i guess i'll be there too
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>>161119684
>build 5 games around this rule
>break the rules 1 times just for the hell of it for 1 secret area
>no way of knowing unless you're a shitter who looks at online guides or bad enough to die to a select unit in a select area
That's not an exception to the rule, that's called inconsistency.
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>>161119835
Bushibushi
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>>161119912
>An enemy that can easily kill you in one hit early on that's located in multiple areas around the game for a SECRET area
Oh man
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>>161119852
>>161119793
alright ringing
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>>161120026
forget it, I bet that guy also never dies to anything in defiled chalices because he's just too good. it's understandable he wouldn't find the secret area
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>>161119912
>occurs in exactly one scenario, not repeated
>usual rules apply in every single other scenario in the game
>not literally the definition of "exception"
You're literally just bitching for the sake of bitching and forgetting that you're talking about a series of games that finds new ways to obscure shit from the player's immediate frame of reference.
Shut the fuck up.
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>>161111690
>Is the 25 SKL less desirable?
I don't think so. The only reason BLT gems are recommended is because minmaxing shitters like to make huge numbers and jerk off to them. In actual practice, you're going to want to be properly versatile. You can't only rely on half your moveset. Don't buy into this bullshit >>161113605. If you spec yourself to be a zipperfaggot, you're going to be predictable and piss easy to beat. 25 SKL is an ideal number. You'll get solid rewards no matter what kind of hits you're landing and you'll be fucking impossible to predict. People will expect typical Chikage behavior and stats and you're gonna make them shit themselves when your untrick R2 counter hits them for 600+

>untricked is mediocre
That's not fucking relevant. You need the options and choices. Don't limit yourself just so you can occasionally blow some oblivious retard out with a fancy instakill unzip. Anybody who can get unzipped to death is a shitter and you could have beaten them other ways. It's hugely telegraphed and way easy to parry.

It is worth it for 12% more overall damage? Y'know what's gonna do a lot mmore than 12% of an unzip? Your untricked chikage at 25 SKL.
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>>161120042
hmm...
nothing yet...
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>>161120483
summoning is being gay rn give it some time
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>>161120545
yeah i got disconnected from the servers.
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>>161120026
>easily kill you
What are you even talking about. His moves are extremely telegraphed and when he transforms you can easily get a few hits in. This is the area you get to after you beat Father Gascoine and potentially Bloodstarved Beast which are bosses that will absolutely kick your shit in, its expected that you at least know how to avoid damage by now. Again, not everyone is going to die to the sack giant when there's more difficult shit out there at the current time.

>>161120297
No, i'm bitching because the scenario is retarded and shouldn't be encouraging you to die when that's the exact opposite what the series teaches you to do. It's inconsistent, backwards, and shouldn't be expected from a souls game.
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>>161120614
got one
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>>161120652
>Bloodstarved Beast
>kick your shit in
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>>161120652
It's not "encouraging" you to die. How fucking thick are you? You've got to be acting like this intentionally. How many times do I have to repeat myself? Hypogean Gaol is designed to SURPRISE the player. It's purposefully obscure, designed to be an exception to and subversion of the usual rules of Souls games. It's an optional area, it's not necessary to go there, and enemies there are FAR tougher than what you're used to in the game up to that point. In no way though, are you ENCOURAGED to die.
I'm gonna repeat myself one more time: Hypogean Gaol is designed to SURPRISE the player and is entirely optional. Literally the only things you're losing by going there are a single NPC and some more lore/atmosphere.

I'm ending this discussion right here, because you're clearly retarded and can't seem to grasp ANY of what I've been stating.
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>>161120652
Just gonna chime in here.

I really liked it. You don't necessarily need to visit the Gaol early but it was kind of fun to be transported to this scary as fuck place full of beasts likely way out of your league the first time you go there. Gives you a nice taste of things to come as it's expanded on earlier.

I see what you mean though. You're not supposed to die so it doesn't really make sense that you should have to in order to get there. Still, like I said, it's a fun little aside. Even if you kill all the beasts in there it's a very small area.
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>hear the "blood echoes retrieved" sound effect in every tv commercial ever

it's slowly driving me insane.
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Ever closer to beating Defiled Amy. Getting to the last third of its HP bar and it sneezes on me.

I'm gonna cheese this fuck so hard it'll get Swiss citizenship.
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>>161120925
>it doesnt encourage you to die
>literally everyone who found out about it purposely died to the sack giants on their 2nd or 3rd playthrough if they didnt already for the church npc
lmao
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>>161120652
You need to die a few times in this game to progress. Getting to the Frontier and Hunter's Nightmare for instance. You're even supposed to die to the very first beast you encounter to get your introduction to the Dream.
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alright amelia down, im going to get some shit in the dlc so it will take a bit for me to get to forbidden woods
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>>161120329
Nice autism senpai-tachi-san-sama. Did some zipperfaggot deadangle you in a fightclub? Show me on the Doll where it touched you.
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>>161121114
>People exploring things they missed their first time through

Gee, what a surprise!
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>>161120925
Had I known about it on my first playthrough I would've purposely died to it desu. And even if I did have trouble against it, I would've just ran away. I just don't agree with the entire scenario, maybe if even a slight hint was given that sack giants carry away their prey in a note or something.

>>16112111
Yeah, but patches explains to you that you need to go to the right of the grand cathedral so it's not as cryptic there.
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>>161120652
If you mess up even once you will die to him. He can very easily one shot early characters, he also has a fuckton of health and doesn't stagger easily. Once he transforms he becomes faster and does even more damage. How fucking retarded are you?
>BSB
>Hard
Very retarded, it seems.
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>>161121015
Yeah I really liked it too actually. I found the area on my 2nd playthrough and jesus did the music and overall ambiance make the entire area scary as fuck and one of the more enjoyable parts of the game. Making it a "secret" area was a mistake.
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>>161121623
His transform literally gives you a free backstab.
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>>161121739
Wow and that's a whole 1/8th of his health bar gone.
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>>161121192
Wanna do some DLC areas or are you soloing it?
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>>161121980
nah just ran it for blood stones and the beast cutter, ringing in woods now
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>>161090031
I wasn't expecting art of END today. Neat. Thanks.
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Honestly is dying in BB really that big of a deal? It's obviously easy to die in this game unless you play very cautiously all the time and that's fine. I'd rather die by learning an enemy's moveset (when said fucker can also oneshot you) than play super carefully or run away if there's the sligthest chance of danger
Also, on multiple playthroughs I always manage to die to at least one thing I've found easy on every previous encounter since random fuck ups happen. i'm sure anyone would eventually die to the sackmen given enough time if they played the game more than once
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>>161122171
Death is only as much a problem as you make it.
For me the big thing is dying just short of unlocking the shortcut.
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>>161121246
Solid counter argument champ
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>>161122171
>i'm sure anyone would eventually die to the sackmen given enough time
actually sackmen get easier the stronger you get as his transformation phase gives you a free back visceral and ends up 1 shotting him all the time
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>>161122285
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>>161122358
Yeah but it's also easy to get overconfident against them, especially if you've never died to them even once. And your viscerals aren't all that great early game so i'm not sure it oneshots them immediately. I've had them escape chain backstabs attempts randomly
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Huh, didn't realize you could hear Mergo's lullaby outside of Gascoigne's house.
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>>161122571
i mean yeah i guess, but they also have the most pre-determined pattern. their first stage is slow, so all you have to do is dodge once then get a few r1s in. after you trigger his transformation you just dip behind him and hold r2 for a free visceral. even if the visceral didnt kill him you can do another r2 as he's standing up. they all follow this pattern
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grigori you still there?
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>>161123150
I'm ringing!
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>>161123417
fuck man, im taking too much damage, sorry
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I think Gascoigne is Mergo's dad because the music box play's his lullaby.
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>>161124076
This makes sense because the place where you kill Gascoigne is called odeon's tomb, and since we all know Odeon got Yharnam preggers we now also know Gascoigne was Odeon.
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alright hemwick time
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>>161124630
Sorry for the wait, Crohn's Disease shits wait for no man
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I've been trying for THREE DAYS to get through Nightmare of Mensis. The furthest I've gotten is the spider room, most time I die before getting there. Now I have to farm fucking blood vials after every death.

This isn't fun anymore.
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>>161125632
>Three days on Nightmare of Mensis

Perhaps have you considered running past everything instead of getting your ass beat?
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>>161125632
if you're that starved for progression, just run past everything.
don't forget you have sedatives and walls to hide behind
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>>161125713
>>161125818
How? Those spiders are going to follow me onto the bridge, I can't fight them and the hunter.
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>>161125883
Once you get passed the hunter and hang to the right, you'll get to an elevator right by a lamp. Blitz it, son. Run passed all the nonsense and get a shortcut.
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Thanks for coming with Grigori! Had a lot of fun but im going to go to bed.
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>>161125632
Where exactly are you having trouble? Or what is giving you trouble?
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>>161126219
Glad to tag along, Eyes!

Sweet dreams
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>>161125883
You also picked up some Blue Elixir at this point. Suck it down and running by should be a breeze.

Really though, just hug the walls to avoid the frenzy and run past the giants outside the door. Once you're in, they can't follow. Take on a few spiders at a time and lure them to the entrance where the big one can't fit and the small ones come a few at a time. Run past the big one. Then go against the hunter who's pretty easy.
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i hope whoever designed the sickle and chain undead giant gets punished in hell by being forced to fight it with their fists
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>>161126694
That's the easiest one
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Anyone up for a nighttime spelunk? Your choice what chalice we go to, I have plenty of materials. I'll post a pass and glyph if anyone's interested.
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>>161128237
Absolutely, man. Up for an Ihyll root?
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>>161128361
>Ihyll

Oh, joy. The last Ihyll root I made was a fuckpit of red spiders and Hemwick Witches.

Alrighty, the pass is bbgihyll and the glyph is 4dsmybdh. I'll be beckoning shortly, see you there.

>>161128237
And if anyone else wants to join, feel free. Can always do for another cooperator.
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>>161128578
Kek. Sounds like every Isz root I make.
Anyways, ringing.
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Rom anyone?
Pass is bbg
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>>161128889
omw
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>>161128685
>Died to hollow flail

God dammit. Beckoning again, sorry about that.
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>>161129124
No worries, man
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>>161129084
Gotta restock health
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>>161129257
np, ringing at fog
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>>161129257
haha the whirlgig was as good as i thought it was going to be!
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>>161129326
Fucking hell that was faster then me in bed
Thanks senpai
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>Watchers as Layer 1
Nice, I'll take them out myself and then meet you on the second layer lamp. That way I won't have to SRRC. They're easy enough
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>>161128237
LAYER ONE REPORT

Things of interest:
Probably a rune of some kind in the layer one pre-dungeon
Dickall in the dungeon proper
No post-dungeon

Boss was Merciless Watchers.

LAYER TWO BOYS
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is it just me or is there a crazy difficulty spike from Lower Pthumeru Layer 2 to Level 3?
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Alright, ringing for L2!
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>>161129664
If you actually bother killing all the roaming enemies yeah. But it's easy to just run through everything.
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So the only way to save the little girl is to ignore her?
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Man, these crowds have been three for three on me so far. I swear I'm not normally this shit.

Beckoning again.
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>>161130048
Yep. Her sister comes back eventually to take care of her.
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>>161130089
>>161130369
what happens when you go back after the blood moon? does anybody answer?
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Good Christ I am doing just awful tonight. I'm sorry.
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>>161130504
None of them speak to you for some reason, but you can faintly hear their voices near the window.
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Hunter of Hunters Rune
>(Stamina Recovery improvement)

Is this shit at least like 10% faster recovery and is it worth it? only reason I keep pausing speedrunning a new build is to do her quest and this bitch keeps getting visceral'd by Henryk and dying
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>>161128237
>>161129620
LAYER TWO REPORT

Things of interest:
Pre-dungeon had some ritual blood
Main dungeon had an illusory wall right outside the lantern room, like layer three of Lower Pthumeru
No post-dungeon

Boss was cannon variant Undead Giant. Many Call Beyonds later and he's down hot shit there Shadrach.

ONTO LAYER THREE
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SRRC'ing in now. Hopefully this won't take too long to connect.
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>>161131132
>getting visercal'd by
i've never seen him actually take a visceral. i've only ever seen him parry someone and then try to charged r2 them
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You guys couldn't see it, but there's a bell maiden in range of the lantern room spawning red spiders.

This is exactly what I was hoping wasn't going to happen this time around. Ihyll sucks and I love it.
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>>161131132
It won't make much of a difference unless you have a lot of End, even then it's still not much. Feels less than 10%.

Just throw poison knives at the dude and shoot at him while holding a shield to block bullets. It'll interrupt his attacks and if you're lucky Eileen will get a visceral on him. Let her do most of the work.
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>>161128237
>>161129620
>>161131193
LAYER THREE REPORT

Things of interest:
No pre-dungeon
A fuck of red spiders in the main dungeon
Main dungeon sarcophagus had another Great One's Wisdom, probably another rune
Post-dungeon had a shitty gem

Boss is Pthumerian Elder. Didn't drop an abyssal, but I have pretty much everything I need, so oh well.

No layer four, which is a shame. It's been fun, Segalt, Shadrach. If either of you want to delve into another dungeon, I'd be more than happy to make one.
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>>161132969
Yes please, that was really fun!
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>>161132969
That was a great run, Gregor. Thanks for hosting. I'm up for another dungeon, though. This has become somewhat addicting.
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>>161133079
>>161133137
Alrighty. Made us a Loran chalice this time, let's see what we can see.

Glyph is 7c26zu2d, pass will be bbgloran this time around. See you two there!
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>>161133337
Cheers, see you there.
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>>161126314
Well, I tried three more times. The hunter at the end of the tunnel destroys me every time. My weapons do ~50 per hit while his kill me in three. Fuck this, I'm down to three elixirs, can't buy more. I don't know if I should just give up on this game or pay for PSN and hope someone leaves a sign. Pulling my hair out I'm so frustrated.
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Must be some latency i-frames I'm getting, because I have not been hit once by that giant's slam attack despite me standing directly next to him.
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>>161133759
You can just run past all of them, eventually there's a shortcut to to the right. It shouldn't be as hard as it sounds, are your weapons broken, upgraded, gemmed, and how much Vit do you have?
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>>161133337
LAYER ONE REPORT

Things of interest:
No pre-dungeon
Main dungeon has two Hemwick Witches in the first room though they're both easily avoidable
Post-dungeon has a rune of some kind I think? I already forget what I picked up.

Boss is 2kat variant Undead Giant.

NEXT LAYER
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>>161133990
I'm level 65 with 30/29/28/11/9/8. I'm using Saw Cleaver +7, physical attack 153 +81. No, it isn't broken. I'm going to try one last time on my own then just pay for PSN and try to get help.
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>>161133337
>>161134134
LAYER TWO REPORT

Things of interest:
No pre-dungeon
Kinda fucky main dungeon layout, got lost on the way back to the gate. Sarcophagus had some Blooming Coldblood Flowers.
No post-dungeon

Boss is Watchdog of the Old Lords.

LAYER THREE BAYBEE
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>dying to Hotdog's charge attack
I swear I'm not this bad.
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>>161133337
>>161134134
>>161135634
LAYER THREE REPORT

Things of interest:
No pre-dungeon
Main dungeon largely uneventful, there was a Hemwick Witch I think
Post-dungeon has a bolt gem and another Hemwick Witch

Boss was Abhorrent Beast.

This chalice was a bit of a wash, honestly. Nothing particularly exciting.

That's it from me tonight, though. It's late and I've gone too long without restful sleep. Thanks for the spelunk, Segalt and Shadrach. It was fun. I'll probably do this again soon, I've been in a chalice coop mood lately.

Also fuck off with that Fire Paper, Segalt. I'm an arc build with a fire Whirly, I can't make use of Oil Urns when you eat the debuff with maybe a couple hundred more damage.
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Anybody have that Kotaku article complaining about Bloodborne and the pretentious gamer culture or some other bullshit?
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What does Maria whisper to you when she does this attack?
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>>161136720
Neat, man. I appreciate the run with you two, and I'm looking forward to some more spelunking in the future.
My bad.
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>>161136753
>You're really cute and I like you a lot, I'll visit you in your dreams so we can go on dates and get married and have a house and maybe a dog
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>>161136869
>dog
>no kids
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I know I'm very late to this but HOLY FUCK
Not only are the winterlanterns lower body's basically the dolls, their 'brain' is made out of fucking messengers.
Are there any compelling theories on what these things really are? Also what's up with the 'pale' blood of the doll? Does anyone else bleed in pure white?
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>>161137346
We came to Yharnam seeking some sweet fucking doll pussy. We got it.
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>smash my head against the wall that is Defiled Amygdala for a while
>suddenly understand the rhythm
>visceral it down to what appears to be an empty health bar
>swipe again anyways to be sure
>PREY SLAUGHTERED

It was probably PTSD after the last time a sliver of health was left on Amy's health bar.
Either way, victory is sweet.
I've done it! I have!
Now to suffer for a spell against Headless Bloodletting Beast.
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>>161137346
>winterlanterns
Either they're distorded, nightmarish versions of the doll, or the doll is not what you think she is

>Also what's up with the 'pale' blood of the doll
Ask Gherman...
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>>161095303
>you will never have sex with Kos and give Orphan a little brother or sister
feels bad man
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>>161108168
>not backing up saves on a usb for savescumming
Don't call it a grave, it's the future you chose
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Living failures anyone?
Pass is bbg
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>>161144653
Coming. At the lamp or fog?
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>>161144653
You're the living failure anon
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>>161144758
Lamp now
Got rekt
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>>161144760
Wow rood
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Based anon
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Two or three blunts on the beast cutter? Does one heavy increase the damege?
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>>161146826
One heavy and two blunts
>mfw I'm still farming for those fucking blunts
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HELP DID SOMEONE SAVE THE COMPILATION OF FC CIRCLEJERK THAT THAT ONE DRAWFAG DID ONCE I NEED IT
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>>161146978
>mfw I got blunts and decided to use the beast cutter later
I don't even know where I got them but I'm glad I didn't throw them away.
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>>161149023
The worst thing is that I have a shitload of those on other characters but who don't need of course
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so I'm currently fighting Micolash, and I've got a question. How am I supposed to defend myself when he does that move that ebrietas does.
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>>161149536
Which one ? The tentacles or a call beyond ? For the first one you just need to chain him and then dodge on the side to avoid his retaliation, and the second, you need to stay close to him and either get lucky during the dodge if he manages to cast him or just attack whenever you see him casting
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>>161125883
just finished this section, run past it. All of it. Run past the spiders, and the hunter on the bridge. Once you get pass them, go down the stairs and turn right. There's a shortcut back to near the beginning ;)
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>>161149536
Stay close to him if he starts casting anyway hit/shoot him
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>>161149634
the call beyond is what gets me, I'll try to stay close when he does that
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who was the stronger hunter? gascoigne or henryk? or did they specialized in two different things?
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>>161151230
Is it time for powerlevel discussions?
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ahh kosm faggots need to die
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Finally caved and bought a PS4.

Two questions:

1. Is the cane viable beyond early game
2. is Bloodtinge worth leveling past item requirement?
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need help on ludwig, bl 49 pass bbg at fog
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>>161153443
1. It's the best weapon in the game
2. Only if you make a blt build

Check the OP.
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>>161153443
See the OP there is a faq with no spoilers for practical infos, but
1. I wouldn't suggest the cane for a first playthrough since it's the most difficult early game. Of course it's viable later on. Every weapon is
2. Yes for gun damage and some weapons scaling
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>>161153651
>>161153724
Oops, sorry.
Thanks for the help.
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How far into the chalice do you need to go for good phys gems? I really can't be fucked going through them again.
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>>161154551
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>>161119175
>>161118817
Is this "experienced player" really griping about obscurity in a Souls game? Sounds like a someone whose never played the games before to me. I'm actually triggered.

That aside, I need a fresh play through for this game, something different but not something like a huge handicap. Imma look into it, but does anyone know if you can do a real quick grab of some hunter tools and such, to get through a chunk of the game? I don't think I've used them much, and I feel a playthrough with "spells" would be fun.
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>>161154551
If you can't be fucked to get them, then just farm the circles off the brains leading to mother brain. They give 18-19% phys damage increase, so they're alright baseline gems. You also don't need to do chalices for them.
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>>161155946
oh nice, thanks
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Sure is dead in here
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Anyone wanna help me beat kos ?
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>>161158215
You mean Kosm ?
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>>161158239
Thats what some say
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>>161158342
But do they hear our prayers ?
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>>161100223

Do you even dodge? Fume Knight was hard to dodge, Elder is easy. Stop mashing roll and time properly.
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>>161158618
Majestic an anon is a anon even in a thread
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>>161158885
A WHOOOOOOOOOOOOOO ?
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Tonight is the night again, Vilebloodbros. Let none of the church wieners get out alive.

Honor to Cainhurst.
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>>161158793
are you dumb? im complaining about hitboxes not about lol hes 2 hard on his spin attack it hits 360 degrees around him even though on the animation it appears he has a blind spot on his sides, fume knight also had bad hitboxes with his trusts
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These guys always give me the best fights but I can't seem to use it myself.
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What sort of kos parasite do i want ? Should i go for lost uncanny or regular ?
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>>161159593
Lost or uncanny is fine
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Is having >=1000 hp the only way to survive Maria?
Keep getting to her third phase, but end up getting 1 hit KO'd by her long range attack...
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>>161159593
Only Uncanny, Waning slots are useless for Arcane weapons.
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>>161160027
What about learning the pattern to dodge the attack properly?
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>>161160032
You can get waning cold abyssals as well
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help
I can't stop playing Bloodborne. Someone, anyone, unshackle me from this dream. The night blocks all sight.
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>>161160412
The only way to stop dreaming is to kill yourself.
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>>161160376
I know, but Wanings can't drop Open Foes while having the chance to drop Fire/Bolt secondaries which are useless on the Parasite.
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>>161158973
So when is the guy in that manga ever gonna do shit for once?
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>>161160902
He's the final boss.
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>>161160027
Parry 2 Win
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>>161161019
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>>161161019
Very cool sculpture, but the neck and head are all wrong
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Anyone up for a lengthy Co-op session? I'm playing slow and 100%ing everything while I figure out my next build. How's it look?

Password is 'eyes' and I'm ringing at Cathedral Ward.
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>>161161146
>>161161198
he makes his own interpretations
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>>161160974
But I want him to become Jigsaw
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>>161160659
Interesting, Is there a page that details which secondary effects appear in which dungeons?
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>>161161210
>140
>10 Skill
>6 Blt

Nah
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>>161161146
Orphan's wings make a Circle gem?
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>>161161260
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>>161161380
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>>161161260
Want
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>>161161365
No lol
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>>161161316
Some secondaries might be false or at least very, very rare to drop like Phys secondaries in Isz/Loran.
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>>161161365
Gem farming is the real curse.
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>>161161489
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>>161161606
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Any good draw fags still in here?
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>>161161816
what do you want drawn family?
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>>161161816
Watchu want drawn, senpai?
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>>161161859
>>161161886
Not him but lady Maria riding Cleric Beast non-sexually.
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>>161161606
this guy really likes making Ludwig sculpts.
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>>161162052
Ludwig does look fucking great
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>>161162052
What are they made of?
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>>161162175
idk, I stumbled upon a bunch of japs on twitter who like making all sorts of sculpts. Maybe an artfag can tell us what kind of material is used for these.
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>>161162294
link it pls
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>>161162294
Looks like sculpting clay coated with a polisher. That stuff is pretty expensive, but makes for amazing sculpting material. It stays moist for a long time, like oil paint.
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>>161162449
https://twitter.com/clunifer

The people he follows and likes produce similar stuff as well.
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>>161161859
>>161161886
Was looking to do a commission on a tattoo. specifically, bloodborne's rendition of the Holy Moonlight Sword. It's to cover up some scarring from an injury. Just thought I'd through it out there...
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>>161162481
Kinda unrelated, but I mostly use acrylic paint for my work. Would I be better off with oil?
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>>161162481
Cool. Well, when you're talented as this, it's not wasted money I guess.
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>>161162674
Neat, I'll look into it. Got any specifics on how you want the orientation of the HMLS? You can go on MSPaint and throw out the crudest sketch out there. I just want a general idea of what you're looking for.
>>161162718
Definitely. I've never really known how to work with sculpting clay, but I've always admired the process of it. Shit's amazing.
>>161162676
Really depends on what you're working on. The thing about acrylic paint is that it dries almost instantly, and isn't very good for mixing because of that. Oil paints literally takes weeks to dry, and if forced, will actually crack (like old Rococo paintings).
Oil is a fantastic medium though, albeit a bit expensive. Look up artists like Anders Zorn, Phil Hale, and Mark Tansey. They all use oil paint to great effect. Pic related is Jeremy Geddes.
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>>161162674
color, b&w?
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>>161162918
>forgot pic
Anyways, Anders Zorn became pretty famous for using a limited palette, which helped retain the unity in colour relationships and values in his work. I don't remember it by heart, but he used yellow ochre, cadmium red, etc.
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whats better for hmls build? 25 str/50 arc or 50 str/25 arc? also what gems would be best, ive only got ps+ recently so ive never rly bothered to farm amazing gems because ive had to source my own chalices
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>>161162918
Thanks. I'll draw up a rough sketch and pull together some reference images when I can, I'm pretty busy atm though you have an email or something?
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>>161163105
Solely for HMS and Heavies, 50/25. With Hunter Tools, moonbeams, and converted weapons, 25/50. Nourishings for both, but 50/25 can also use Temperings and a Heavy.
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>>161163212
Sure, man. No rush. It just helps to know, because I don't want to end up drawing a vertical HMLS to cover up what might be diagonal scar or something.
[email protected] It's a throw-away email, but I check it often.
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>/bbg/ - Art& Sculpting
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>>161162954
Black and white, I don't like color tattoos.
At the minute I'm a bit all over the place of how I want it, so if you just wanna use the idea as practice go right ahead... If I like something I'll tell you and grab your email or something.
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>>161163047
This can't be a painting... I don't believe it...
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>>161163276
would it be a bad idea to use tricked version of the sword if i went 50/25? and would farming nourishings or tempering/heavy be more difficult?
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>>161163346
>>161163419
>>161163305
>>161163212
>>161163047


This doesn't seem like videogames Buckley
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>>161163528
>can't follow a simple conversation that led to a bit of art talk
embarrassing
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>>161163523
You're good with tricked mode, but the moonbeams will do less than 25/50. Nourishings come from Gargoyles/Amygdala, Temperings from Watchers and Heavies from Headless-Bloodletting Beast. Amy is easy to farm with a Fire Stake Driver + Oil Urns if you jump cheese for 25/50.
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>>161163419
They're masters of their trade
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>>161163727
thanks for the advice
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>>161163727
What version of the weapon is best for a Fire Stake Driver?
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>>161163968
Lost, 2 Cold Abyssals and a 27.2% Fire Triangle for the tricked charge r2s.
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Anyone want to help on Lower Pthumeru Layer 3 Rom?
glyph is jjph
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>>161164341
Glyph doesn't matter, password does.
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>>161164341
also pass is bbg ringing at fog gate
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>>161164381
oh. does glyph only matter on root chalices?
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>>161164534
If it's not open yeah.
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I beat Gascoigne
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>>161164341
Reeee wait for me.
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>>161164641
well done
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>>161164641
One of the best damn fights in the game, anon, I ope you savoured it
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>>161164641
You mean gas coin?
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>>161164702
you coming?
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>>161165068
You mean petrol penny?
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>>161165338
Srrc is taking fucking ages.
Just do him. When you die I try without srrc
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>beat blood-starved beast
>nothing else to do
>found like bonfires for every gravestone, but I don't wanna continue, I need to find every secret in the first world
>beat the pthumetra chalice and the root one as well, now trying to finish the central one
>can't use the rune powerup thing in the house
>entered the hunter's nightmare and the whip guy is tanky as fuck
>run through anything, evaded the big buffed axe guy and grabbed an item from some giant corpse

What now? I am SL35 and I do a pure BLT build. My main weapon is the Rifle Spear for now
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Anyone want their hunter drawn? Post a screenshot.
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>>161165527
Go back to cathedral ward
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>>161165581
P-Please don't hate on my fashion guys.
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>>161165581
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>>161165464
alright i'm ringing in the room with prospector oleks summon sign
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>>161165709
I did, reached the top and found a closed door and then I went down and found a beast rune, a city and finally got the stupid item that taunted me from that hard-to-reach balcony
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>>161165871
>2 MB
Did you save the pic on USB and then uploaded it?
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>>161165939
Well you just have to go beyond this balcony now
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>>161165896
Hmm. The thing is that I can only do a new lower phtumeru chalice on layer 1. Don't know if it's working when I am ringing from there.
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>>161165961
Yeah
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>>161166078
You'll need to run through it to level 3 i think. if you want i can help.
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>>161165939
Hunter's Nightmare is the DLC, I'd avoid that for now, it's fucking tough and you're weak right now (although you could try suicide running a few of the early fun weapons laying around, they're all strength, except for one).

Did you examine the skull on the altar in the Vicar Amelia bossroom?
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>>161166190
Fuck. SRRC almost worked. It made that one sound when you create a chalice while searching
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How do you bully people that you killed during invasions? Toss a coin? Special emote? Both?

I do that all the time but rarely get hate messages.
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>>161166387
Yes, saw a cutscene of an old guy in a wheelchair talking to another guy?

Am I done with the first gravestone for now?
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Just killed living failures nut having a hard time with Maria. I'm only sl22 what do I go ?? I killed Amelia picked up a set and been in this place for a whole
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>>161166723
beg for life emote
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>>161166723
Crush Vermin
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>>161166810
I usually do the female bow.
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Lmaooo who set his pass to bbg and walked through dina?
Also to rom anon. please set your password to spmething more specific. I connect to other people.
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>>161166732
You need to go to the woods. Find the door with the password
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>>161166796
Help
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>>161166863
I like that Idea but I need to farm a lot of vermin to do that. I might just do that against obvious church wieners.
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>>161166723
Wave and toss a coin and run away
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>>161166883
yeah but that doesn't really feel much like bullying
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>>161166796
Memorize the fucking patterns until you can defeat her with your dick. Or call someone for coop. But I guess you don't have ps+
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>>161167014
You think so? Even when I just attack them right away no matter what they are doing?
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>>161166892
alright i changed it to vgbbg
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>>161166796
Level up and come back when you're ready.

>>161166986
That's ez, SRRC is never dead
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>>161166723
Crush vermin or Approval
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>>161167095
Destroyed a dumbass who saluted me despite having me look for him for several fucking minutes before that. Thinking he can waste my fucking time and all
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>>161167171
>SRRC
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>>161167024
I don't have plus, can't justify paying for online
>>161167171
Where do I go? I killed Amelia and there nothing in cathedral hall. This place is only area I've found and it was on accident
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>>161167257
Short Root Ritual Chalice.
Just do co-op there, kill bosses, and drown in vermin.
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>>161167383
>Just do co-op there, kill bosses, and drown in vermin.
I see, thank you.
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>>161167338
Forbidden Woods, look for a big door with someone asking for for the password. If you managed to kill Ludders and Living Failures at BL22, you'll steamroll through Woods and Burgertown unless you were carried.
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>>161167338
you know the plaza with 2 church giants and a ton of absolute madman's knowledge? take the exit that leads to a crow and a brainsucker, and instead of dropping down, go left.it should lead you to a door that goes to the next area.
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>>161165581
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>>161166732
Look around that big circular courtyard down fron the cathedral with the two giants
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>>161167528
I was there before but was locked
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>>161167685
You've gotten the password after Amelia if you touched the Skull.
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>>161165581
Sure, why not.
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>>161165581
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>tfw my minimum wage college student job won't get me enough money for the dlc for another few weeks
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>>161167742
Oh, Ok. Thank you
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>>161167137
I don't know what's the problem. It makes the chalice but it won't connect. But if you want let's rush through lower pthumeru with mine or I rush it myself while you try and the when do it together in the chalice dungeon. Fuck my shit up, srrc
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>>161167874
What are you studying?
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>Hunter of Hunters has no ranking system like Vilebloods
Why?
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>>161165581
Sounds like fun
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>>161167796
>moon prisim power!!

>>161167874
But it's on sale for 9,99 right now senpai.
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>>161167898
alright. ring your bell at layer 1 lamp then. Whats the pass?
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>>161168267
Let's go with vgbbg
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>>161168151
Oh really? Thanks for letting me know. For how long?
>>161167974
Major in Criminal Justice, minor in Psychology
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>>161168592
You want to be a cop ?
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>>161168592
I have seen it on amazon because of black friday or so. Yet I am from yurop so I don't know exactly if it's on sale in your country too.
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>>161168662
Yeah
>>161168738
Unfortunately it isn't. I wasn't aware that black friday is a thing outside of the US
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New adventure:
>>161168925
>>161168925
>>161168925
>>161168925
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>>161168864
I'm from Europe and black friday is only a thing on the online shops or services, common markets and all don't do it
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>>161168267
You know what? Let me just steamroll to layer 3. it takes less time
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>>161169051
ok. i'll be ringing my beckoning bell in the room with prospector olek's summon sign.
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>>161166723
How new are you?
1. Use approval gesture
2. Spin in a circle
3. Drop rope molotov/gold coin
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Can someone help me vs the hotdog in the first chalice dungeon?
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>>161162294
It's 3d printed
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>>161165527
>SL
>bonfire
>He still thinks this is DarkSouls
Not every FromSoft game is DarkSouls you beastly idiot
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Jesus fucking christ this game is retarded.
Playing blind, I've hit a dead end. I'm completely lost.
The world is -too- interconnected. I can't even find somewhere that I haven't been already. To make matters worse I just killed the darkbeast. Oh cool, a door I haven't opened yet. Oh wait, it just opens up to...a place I've already explored. Does that mean there is something I'm missing there and that's the way to progress? Maybe not, maybe it's just there just to be there to make the world more interconnected but also to make it a fucking maze.

No wonder DaS3 is so linear, because this is what happens when From tries making the world interconnected.
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>>161176298
did you kill amelia yet?
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>>161177603
Killed:
Darkbeast
Bloodstaved Beast
Amelia
Witches
Cleric Beast
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>>161177814
Forbidden Woods is next. Go to the central graveyard place in the Cathedral Ward with all the giants. There's a place there that leads to a closed door. Say the password you got from Laurence's skull, and you gucci
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