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REMINDER TO PURGE FILTH

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Laurence did nothing wrong

Rate my Orphan of Kos fight please

https://youtu.be/Bh5LfkEjqcg

>>160985592
6/10. Failed the class. Try again next semester.

>>160985662
>unbeknownst to him, 6/10 is actually a passing grade in most of north america, somethings even going as low as 5/10

>>160986015
What? No. 6/10 is 60 which is failing. I don't know what school you went to in America but you're wrong. Did you go to school in dominantly black inner cities?

>>160986370
Lmaooo high school pleb. 4/10 is even passing in some subjects in my university.

>>160986370
>>160986545
this guy knows what's up

and for the record, 60 would be >= to pass in most classes across all grades. University will ponderate even lower depending on the class

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Daily reminder: 90% of loranon's lore theories are commonly accepted by the bloodborne community because of their inherent merit and value. Everybody with a brain in their skull came to the same conclusions, independently.

>>160986845
Who is loreanon

>>160986845
where would said lore theories be available to read

>>160986914
it's loranon. loran+anon

It's an oldfag thing.

>>160986845
I've been here since about 6 weeks before DLC launched (which was a year ago today) and I've heard so many people complain about this guy, but I never remember seeing anything he actually said, or why people loath him.

Who was he, what did he do, and why is he a meme?

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Anyone want to go dungeon diving?

I'm in Lower Hintertomb, please respond

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>>160986845
While you're at it tell them not to reply to Luci. Might as well have this post early

>>160986931
I could just list them because it's hopelessly transparent and I should just admit to who I am.

>Cainhurst is the remainder of the Pthumeru
>Logarius is probably Pthumerian
>Mergo is the Child of Blood
>Messengers are ascended Pthumerians
>Vermin are real and cause beasthood
>Moon Presence is behind the Scourge and Kos or possibly her orphan is behind Blood Addlings
>The first Hunter of Hunters was from the Fishing Hamlet

>>160987032
I was belligerent and rude when presenting my theories and rebutting people's objections or competing theories.

Also, /bbg/ used to be full of illiterate idiots.

>>160987154
OH!

Of course, the one that got me my name!

>Loran is/was just another part of the subterrenean Pthumerian Chalice Dungeon system

anyone up for laurence? pass bbg

>>160987254
fog or lamp?

>>160987060
>Lower Hintertomb
For what reason?

>>160987378
sorry. fog

>>160987398
Completion's sake.

Also because I couldn't make Ailing Loran at the time.

>>160987439
you up for defiled chalice at some moment in a near future? for completion's sake

>>160987556
I'm unlocking all the chalices and Lower Hintertomb is what's on the chopping block.

>>160987154
1. maybe
2. wrong
3. wrong
4. maybe
5. why do you think this?
6. probably

>>160987415
What the hell just happened? I got the visceral noise but he didn't open up and then I died..?

>>160987698
>single word replies
I'm not going to justify myself if you're unwilling to explain yourself.

>>160987760
no clue. ringing again at fog in 20sec

>>160987795
You sure you're ready for this fight?

I'm only level 77 and my health is being downscaled.

>>160987760
>>160987795
hmm you got the visceral again but it didnt seem to do much damage

>>160987773
annalise MAY be of pthumerian blood but we don't know if it's direct heritage or through the blood the scholar from byrgenwerth brought

yharnam was impregnated by oedon, the child of blood is analise's child

I won't extrapolate on "maybe" because It might be true and might not be true

The first hunter of hunter being from the hamlet is likely

>>160987947
i'm level 90 tho, not sure why you,re being downscaled

>>160987948
I only have enough skill to wield my weapon, so 12. My visceral attacks aren't particularly strong.

If you wanna shoot him in the head after I hit him twice with the Accursed Brew you can get the visceral instead, probably do more damage too.

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Why does nobody use this weapon in pvp? I want to make a pure skill cosplay build either Gherman or HoH with blades of mercy. Wanted to do the Burial Blade because I never fought against it in pvp. Why is it bad?

seriously why is it downscaling my health to 700

>>160988127
no clue. anyone else care to chime in on why a lvl77 would be downscaled when summoned by a lvl90?

>>160988161
My only guess is because it downscales health regardless of level, but I didn't think that was the case.

Out of curiosity, how much health do you have?

>>160988209
1239 health (26end)

also getting real tired of selecting those stupid storefronts

>>160988247
did you get him this time?

>>160988247
thanks anon! got him in the end, by the hair of my fucking balls. no vials or bullets left and less than a quarter health but got the last kick on him!

>>160988778
I never fought him with so little health before so that was a bit of a challenge.

Glad you finally kicked his teeth in though

>select all images with store fronts

ENOUGH

>>160988845
those fucking storefronts...

now all I got left to do before finishing this campaign is fucking defiled amygdala and the queen
gaaaahhh

>>160987992
>annalise MAY be of pthumerian blood
Maria is her direct blood relative and used blood AND fire magic, both of which are pretty much exclusive to Pthumerians. She's also NOT a Vileblood.
>yharnam was impregnated by oedon, the child of blood is analise's child
It's both. Annalise wants to have her OWN Child of Blood because she wants to be a proper successor to Yharnam.
>The first hunter of hunter being from the hamlet is likely
It's confirmed. They practice Sky Burial there.

>>160987154
> Cainhurst is the remainder of Pthumuru

But that my theory! Give it back.

And it's barely even a theory, since so many Cainhurst things are found in chalice dungeons, and the paintings look like slightly more humanised Pthumerian Descendant/Elder.

> Logarious is Pthumerian

Nah, he's not weak to Arcane and he doesn't do fire magic. He's just a super stronk human, probably lots of blood treatments but managed to avoid Beasthood. Similar to Church Giants (and even Doctors and Brick Trolls) being gigantic but they arnt Pthumerian or beasts. Personally I think based on Gilbert's "all kinds of blood" line, that tbe Church has countless strains of old blood and targeted application can achieve somewhat scientific results (EG making people huge).

> Loran was just another part of Labyrinth

This doesn't make sense, it was a land swallowed by the sands. There's no fucking desert near Yharnam, it's lake, forest or mountains depending on which direction you walk. Loran was a Pthumerian city or country or whatever, a substantial distance from Pthumuru Ihyll (the capital of thier civilisation) and also differed in culture, they had Blood based medical procedures and Loran Clerics imply some organised religion.

But Chalice dungeons are impossible to properly analyse in lore terms because unlike the main game we can't take what we see for granted. I highly doubt Pthumuru Ihyll (the fucking capital) looked identical to the shitty Hintertombs. Or that thier entire civilisation was based on formulaic 3 layer dungeons.

Why are the hintertomb bosses all recycled regular enemies?

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Can a professional ass starer tell me which set this pair belongs to please ?

>>160988108
Burial Blade is amazing. Last time I participated in /bbg/s fight clubs around this time last year I saw at least a couple of people using them. It's got crazy range, amazing quickstep attacks and you can really mess with people by using the morphing attacks.

>>160989685
I honestly don't even know why Hintertomb is in the game.

> identical to Pthumru except it has the poison status on all dungeons (this can randomly happen to Pthumuru root dungeons), Madmen as the ONLY chest/lever guardian enemy (they appear in other dungeons anyway) and more dark rooms.

The pitiful loot (Uncanny hunters axe and some tier 1 Resistsnce runes) could have been added to Depths 1-3 Pthumuru, and the 3 unique bosses could have stopped annoying repeats in other dungeons.
> Forgotton madman replaces Watchers in Lower Pthumuru
> Cannon Giant replaces Keeper in defiled
> Elder replaces Descebant in Ihyll

The only reason it needs to exist as a different dungeon type is if you want decent triangle gems before Isz.

>>160989846
Ashen Pants (Djura's) and looks like Starting Forigners garb.

But the best fucking ass in the game is Ashen Pants + Bone Ass Armour, the tight leather pants are obvious, but the armour's shape has a little "tail" if you call it that, which points into the butt-crack. Gives it mores definition and shape.

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>>160990260
>so this is the power of a pro

Thank you senpai

>>160989059
>NOT a vileblood
>direct blood relative to the VILEBLOOD QUEEN
also still, we don't know what the exact properties of the vileblood that came from byrgenwerth to cainhurst are. In your canon it has no effect because you claim maria's/annelise's special powers are from their ptumerian heritage - I think the vileblood queen became ptumerian because of the blood

also annalise HAD her own child of blood. It was used to beckon MP by Gherman and Laurence

>it's confirmed
explicitly where?
If sky burial alone is the "confirmation" then Hemwick is the origin of the HoH too.
Fishing hamlet has a stronger motif to spawn HoHs but I can't remember an explicit confirmation

>>160989846
Is it possible to kill the Queen with a piercing rifle or bow or something before activating this cutscene?

>>160990636
my pebbles didn't hit her :(

>>160990470
> also annalise HAD her own child of blood. It was used to beckon MP by Gherman and Laurence

???? I have never heard this before. I'm not sure I buy it, because I don't think there's any mention (or even implication) or her previously giving birth to a child of blood. She always speaks about it in future tense, something that will eventually happen.

>>160990315
- I think the vileblood queen became ptumerian because of the blood

That's what I think to, but the Pthumerian ancestors is still very much real. The Cainhurst way is of nostalgia and bombast, they were humans through and through, but could trace heritage back to Pthumuru and used this to legitimise thier nobility. They were hanging onto pride with no actual supernatural abilities. After someone gave them actual Pthunerian shit from the dungeons they could do stuff like become immortal and obtain the inhuman patience required to grind for 4 sets of perfect offshapes for thier 99 BLT build's.

>>160990836
Fucked up my quoting here and forgot a bit of my post.

>>160990315
> so this is the power of a pro

t.femanon who works in advertising and knows how to make boobs/ass look better without actually changing anything. Principles apply to games as well.

What does everyone here think of Paleblood Hunt

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>>160990960
That's some top tier useful skill right there, anon

>>160989059
>>160990470
wtf is "sky burial"

>>160991095
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sky_burial

anyone here might have a pimped out bowblade build lying about that wouldn't mind helping me kill defiled amygdala?

i'm so sick and tired of this fight

>>160991689
That's an awful long shot, m8.

>>160991798
Hehehe

>>160991798
yeah. i'm at the point of making a plebbit account and asking over there

>>160992043
I did that with dark souls 2 and let me tell you it's not worth it.

You can't just post there asking for co-op, especially not with a new account. You need to jump through all the damn hoops and "contribute" to their garbage. They'll think you're a shitter if your post count is low and won't even try to help you.

>>160992239
>You need to jump through all the damn hoops and "contribute" to their garbage. They'll think you're a shitter if your post count is low and won't even try to help you

Not him but damn, that's really shitty

>>160990992
It's good and obviously a lot of effort went into it, it has some good stuff I really found interesting and made some connections I hadn't, but there's also some bits I think have almost no support and border on fan fiction.

Which is fine, and inevitable in your own interpretation of the lore. But a problem arises when you put in so much effort writing a 100+ page document that no one else even bothers doing their own and critical discussion gets replaced with links to The Paleblood Hunt.

Just because it's famous and a product of extreme effort doesn't mean it's somehow better or more accurate than a 3 sentence shitpost, provided you can support it with evidence. Whatshisname put in lots of disclaimers saying "this is only my interpretation" but that doesn't stop people on reddit, /v/ and even bbg using it as a catch-all source of information to give to people asking lore questions.

I admire it, enjoy parts of it and loathe its monopoly on lore discussion that stunted widespread discourse about certain ideas, since any new idea gets filtered through TPBH to be judged on worthiness.

>>160992239
>when your post count is low
>post count
what the fuck

>>160990836
Can't recall where I got that from but I THINK it's not her first child of blood she's longing for and her first child was taken from the executioners and used in the old workshop to summon the hunters dream/MP

I'll dig.

>>160992608
Welcome to Plebbit

>>160992342
That's not true at all. You can't even tell post count without going to someone's profile, and I doubt people do that to every single person.

Don't ask for coop on /r/Bloodborne though, they do get pissy because there's a dedicated Bloodnorne coop reddit to stop the main one getting flooded with coop threads.

Everyone rightfully shits on reddit, but the Bloodnorne community over there is pretty good. Their meta is a hilariously high (and then they do gem less fightclubs to further reduce build variety) but mostly everyone is helpful and there's some interesting lore stuff and a few chalice enthusiasts and maths guys who figured out some stuff and made nice guides.

the amount of bbg crossposters isn't low either, there was a thread with a guy asking advice on a 98 build and said please don't ask me why I'm doing 98, and a whole bunch of bbg people came out of the woodwork. Also Lumpy became common knowledge there a few weeks after here, and I never posted about him on reddit.

>>160992736
I've never heard this anywhere before.

I'll be interested to see if you find anything. But it might just have been a dream.

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>>160992782
Ok

Anyone one wan to help me fight amyg in nightmare frontier?
pass:bbg2
(lvl48)

Is Gherman the MP's surrogate child?

>>160992940
Still need help?

>>160993474
yeah just give me a minute to get to the lamp

>>160993231
Is the Good Hunter the Doll's surrogate child?

>>160993586
Alright, ringing from now

>>160993706
fuggggg my b

>>160993796
It happens. Reringing

>>160993837
thanks!

>>160993634
Is the doll into incest?

>>160993961
No worries.

>>160993982
It's not incest if it's not blood related

>>160993231
>>160993634
Given the timey wimey bullshit that occasionally pops up into the game, it's entirely possible that Gehrman is -- in some way, shape, or form -- in fact the Good Hunter from some alternate time-shifted universe. Or you're him. Or something else contrived and stupid.

>>160994612
Now that's just silly, anon.

>>160994612
You forget Gehrman is part of Yharnam's history. How and why would the good hunter be a younger version of gherman and from where would he come, much later after the life of Gherman ?

>>160994612
Take it easy with the insight, anon. Your frenzy is too high.

>>160994796
Astral Projection.

>>160994743
Gherman and the Moon Presence made baby, and baby is good hunter.

>>160994898
Doll is a mother for all the moon presence babies, that's why she's really there.

She's raising you.

has amellia anon uploaded his fucking video yet
i was promised a god damn webm 6 days ago

>>160995394
I think he posted the webm in the previous thread, as for the video I don't know

>>160995394
I don't know about the video but he posted a webm a few threads ago

>>160992782
>(and then they do gem less fightclubs to further reduce build variety
Gemless fight clubs are great because you don't have to deal with being oneshotted or losing because you didn't spend 5 hours autistically grinding gems for 12% extra damage.

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I'm about to give up on using the Cane, what a useless weapon.
Anyways what's your favorite piece of Bloodborne fanart, /bbg/?

>>160995569
>Gemless fight clubs are great because you don't have to deal with the fact that you're an undicated shit who don't have any pride nor commitment and prefers to make an hour long duel with a weapon which does no damage rather than destroying some watchers

>>160995672
You can play your 5-15 second duels with gems and I'll play my 3-5 minute duels without gems :)
I bet you through a bitch fit people heal too.

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>>160995617

>>160995705
>I bet you through a bitch fit people heal too
Not at all, FCs rules are FCs rules but outside of that I don't give a shit. Enjoy your endless slugfests

>>160995762
>Enjoy your endless slugfests
I will, because I actually enjoy the PvP unlike you who only look to oneshot people.

>>160995840
>you who only look to oneshot people
Rather hard to do in a 1v1 fight even with top tier gems but you wouldn't know that anyway

>>160995840
>butt hurt because he got oneshot by the chikage guy
It's okay, anon. It happens to the best of us.

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>>160995909
Never happened to me, I don't play gemmed FCs, they're boring.
I enjoy the pvp enough to artficially extend our duels by limiting the amount of insane damage we can do with chalice gems, whats the fun if you win by getting in 1 attack?

pvp is fun, why turn it into some gimmicky one hit you die minigame?

>>160996250
Because it's another way to play where the threat is bigger and thus the thrill

>>160996250
Bet you never did a BL4 run you pleb

>Amygdalan Arm
Not fun
>Beast Claw
Fun
>Beast Cutter
Fun
>Beasthunter Saif
Not fun
>Blade of Mercy
Not fun
>Bloodletter
Not fun
>Boom Hammer
Not fun
>Burial Blade
Not fun
>Chikage
Not fun
>Church Pick
Fun
>Holy Moonlight Sword
Not fun
>Hunter Axe
Not fun
>Kirkhammer
Fun
>Kos Parasite
Not fun
>Logarius' Wheel
Fun
>Ludwig's Holy Blade
Not fun
>Rakuyo
Not fun
>Reiterpallasch
Not fun
>Rifle Spear
Not fun
>Saw Cleaver
Fun
>Saw Spear
Fun
>Simon's Bowblade
Not fun
>Stake Driver
Fun
>Threaded Cane
Fun
>Tonitrus
Not fun
>Whirligig Saw
Not fun

>>160996562
I just finished BL4 today except for Laurence, PvE are two different things anon. There is no phantom range in PvE, there is no lag in PvE. You can't die in one hit to mobs having a bad connection.

>>160996568
>Amygdalan Arm
>Not fun
Stopped reading there

So really the only way to play arc is
Cruel Fate
50 ARC -> 30 VIT -> 99 ARC -> 35 VIT
Get Executioner's Gauntlet
Spam Executioner's Gauntlet ad nasuem

>>160996626
Didn't know gems caused lag and bad connection.

>>160996734
You forget ACB and BSE, and of course any elemental weapons or go full ayylmao

>>160996734
You forgot the part where you spend days farming HMPH for a cold abyssal with a +15 bolt secondary only to get a -hp curse

>>160996769
How in the world do you infer that from my post?

>>160992239
not the guy that replied to you, but when I started out playing BB few weeks ago when I got my PS4, I went to the huntersbell subreddit and it's overmoderated as fuck. It's the biggest shitpile of needless safespace I ever seen.

All I wanted was ask for some Coop for Dark Beast Paarl, but in order to ask for helf, you have to adhere to special "codenames" for bosses so newbies don't get spoiled and you have to keep the boss' name spoilertags.

So if you post "Looking for help with Paarl" you get banned....this is no joke. You have to write "DBP" if you wanna talk about Paarl...

Same for Micolash, you can't call him Mico, or Micolash Cage or whatever - it's "MHotN"

Fuck them, seriously.

In contrast, here I just asked for help for some chalice dungeons, and people just helped out and were pretty cool to play with.

>>160990009
that's good to hear! Gherman build it is!

>>160996568
Are you baiting? You got almost all wrong

>Amygdalan Arm
Fun
>Beast Claw
Fun
>Beast Cutter
Dun
>Beasthunter Saif
Fun
>Blade of Mercy
Fun
>Bloodletter
Fun
>Boom Hammer
Fun
>Burial Blade
Fun
>Chikage
Fun
>Church Pick
Fun
>Holy Moonlight Sword
Fun
>Hunter Axe
Not fun
>Kirkhammer
Fun
>Kos Parasite
Fun
>Logarius' Wheel
Fun
>Ludwig's Holy Blade
Not fun
>Rakuyo
Fun
>Reiterpallasch
Not fun
>Rifle Spear
Fun
>Saw Cleaver
Not Fun
>Saw Spear
Not Fun
>Simon's Bowblade
Fun
>Stake Driver
Fun
>Threaded Cane
Not fun
>Tonitrus
Not fun
>Whirligig Saw
Fun

this is correct

>>160996942
>saw cleaver/saw
>not fun
You counter his bait with bait of your own?

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>>160996923
>So if you post "Looking for help with Paarl" you get banned....

At least DBP is pretty intuitive, it would have been really funny if they had real codenames like Black Dog, Mico Tango or shit like that

>>160996867
We are talking about the use of gems in PvP and you bring bad connection as a excuse even though gems don't play a part in it.

>>160996982
They're OP as fuck but as far as movesets go yeah they're pretty boring. Not him btw

>>160996982
I know Saw Spear is op and I usually start wirh Saw Cleaver and use SS on my skill builds but I use Saw Spear on my arc build Nd you get bored of it very quickly and the noveset is not fun except for transformubg attack. Also completed my first pkaythrough with Saw Cleaver only but I really hate it now.
>>160997074
this

>>160997037
PvP with gems is akin to Street fighter where one hit causes an OHKO, any form of lag would ruin the experience and the entire metagame is just being retards and rushing in for an attack. Or you actually play properly but one mistake = death.

PvP without gems is similar to Street Fighter how it's meant to be played, where players utilize spacing and footsies to get in damage whenever they can via making reads and punishing misreads.

I simply cannot believe you're reaching that PvE = PvP somehow when they are both completely separate from one another. One is the focus of the game and the other is an afterthought of a side game

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>>160997036
that being said, the real bloodborne subreddit is actually quite cool, like someone else here stated.

I just found it very unnecessary and needlessly protective.

>>160997074
>>160997158
I can't find any weapon as fun as the saw cleaver. I know saw spear is better for 50/50 and has double serrated but I hate the transformed moveset. I know all the ins and outs of the Saw Cleaver. It's low stamina consumption and transformation combo keeps me using it playthrough after playthrough. It builds beasthood so fast. My absolute favorite weapon is the Stake Driver, but saw cleaver is just too damn fun to ever pass up.

I''ve yet to find any weapon in this game as fun as the saws or the driver and I've tried them all.

>>160997261
>FatGas

Kek

>All of this redditposting
Please grab the helium

>>160997261
LMOATAC

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>>160997261
>ManBoa

>>160988108
Be sure to get the Uncanny instead of the normal one since Normal BB sucks ass.

You don't even need to beat Gehrman to get Uncanny so you can get BB without going to NG+

>>160995617
The Cane is great you worthless mongoloid pig
It's got great reach and is pretty fast

You just suck and you will never git gud

>>160997036
>someone posted my OC
It's a strange feel.

>>160997290
I love saw cleaver too, m8

>>160997216
Except both apply either with or without gems. Reading and counter attacking is the same and if they are one shotting you they are overleveled 50/50 shitters or you have less than 40 VIT. In bbg fc I never got one shot, took a unzip to the face and still had health left.

>>160997261
>Could someone help with brasuc?
kek

>>160997290
Without saw cleaver it would be really shit to build another character fast, but r1,r1,r1 or r1,l1,l1,l1,l1 really gets tedious quickly.

>>160998091
>In bbg fc I never got one shot, took a unzip to the face and still had health left.
Two mistakes allowed isn't any better, longer fights are more fun. Let's agree to disagree. I prefer longer fights where you can play more mindgames and conditioning your opponent rather than getting lucky with the first two hits

>>160998227
Saw Cleaver R2s are underated

>>160998227
R1, L1 L1... to 75% beasthood then R1 for ever
It's not really any different than other other weapon that isn't BT/ARC

>>160998285
>you can play more mindgames and conditioning your opponent
Same with gems

>rather than getting lucky with the first two hits
It takes at least 4 R1s in most weapons

>>160998303
That's true. It's really quick and allows for easy backsteps. Props to you if you use it, but let's be honest, the first thing you think of when saying saw cleaver or saw spear is fire paper and beasthood pellets.

0-1 50/- Whirligig build
2-3 -/50 BoM build
4-5 25/-/50/- Bloodletter build
6-7 suicide
8-9 Demon's Souls playthrough

>>160998878
roll

>>160998986
Rip

>>160998878
Rolling for a DeS playthrough

>>160998986
sweet I'll be waking up soon

>>160999036
Be freed from the dream...

>>160999084
>>160999036
Fuck

>>160998878
Nice

Question, why is it some peons turn into wolfmen and some into slug men?

>>160998878
>50/- whirlgig
This got me thinking. I hate whirlgig L2 because it's so unnatural that your Strength influenced the damage even though it's just cutting on it's own. Everything else kind of makes sense to me but this attack where tou dob't actually swing. I am judt being an autist but it doesn't bother me that much

I love how they managed to give sense to firearms doing more/less damage depending on your stats. You imbide the bullets with your blood so the more bloodtinge you have the more damage it makes. What bothers me is that spells use the bullets without much sense tho

>>160999326
Some lined their brains with eyes or got meddled by Great Ones and some were infected by the Scourge from the blood

>>160999437
Have you ever used a chainsaw before?
They kick back you need to hold it steady and in place.

>>160998878
i dont want to die, but rolling

Farming watchers for 27.2 phys gems, what's the "best" curse you could hope to get?

>>160999602
I did actually and yeah that makes sense actually it must be hard to keep it in place that's true. Thanks for helping me cope with my autismal thoughts

>>160999719
I envy you, I have to off myself while you'll be playing a gem.

>>160999719
Fuck you anon

>>160997626
They're actually bad and take ages to kill a boss. All my damage has to come from parrying.

>>160999854
For pvp: kin down or beast down. Weapon durability is gine just abit of a pain in the ass.

I have 25 str and 25 skill
recommend me a side weapon (main weapon is beast claw)

Anyone wanna spelunk some FRC Isz? I need to get to layer 4 to farm bolt triangles
Pass bbg

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>>161000856
>main weapon is beast claw

>>161000880
Wait for me I'm booting up

>>161001031
>main weapon is beast claw
oh no, what great meme did I trigger now?

Also thanks for the suggestion, asshole

>>161001107
No I'm just kidding BC is fun in pve, but I thought it was more of a strength weapon.

LHB, cleaver, saw, or any quality weapon is fine as your secondary

>>161000880
SRRCing

>>161001193
It seems to be one from scaling but it's not a dedicated pvp build anyways.

I'll go with LHB I think

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>>160990260
I can't thank you enough for this combination.

>>161001267
>>161001031
I'm just gonna keep ringing as I move through the layers

>>161001636
Ok, I'm SRRCing again, got a +26% endu malus tringle and blood chunks

Hows this look for a BL110 STR/ARC build? Any tweaks I should make?
VIT 45
END 18
STR 25
SKL 12
BLT 5
ARC 55

>>161001636
Fuck those witches

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Alright. I think I did everything I could and reexplored areas and what not.
Time to finally fight Gerhman and finish this run.
I am gonna make a new character after this, though I don't know what build to do.

>>161002367
Yeah this whole layer is being a bitch

>>161002397
Arcane.

>>161002397
Build for Kos' Parasite!

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Okay, I beat Gehrman then fought another guy named Moon Presence, is that the true ending boss? Pretty easy fights though both of them.
Also I don't get this, is pic related me or something? She refered to it as the good hunter, but how could I turn into this?
Also this jingling xylophone music in the credits is pretty comfy.

>>161003107
You've ascended to become a Great One. The music is the same as Wet Nurse's and the little music box.

>>161003107
No, there's another final boss that you missed. It's called Doll of the Old Lords and you fight it in Great One form.

Anyone in need of Co- Op?

>>161002367
Thanks for coming but now I gotta go do stuff

>>161004182
Me too, hope you got Ebi chan

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>>160995617
>Anyways what's your favorite piece of Bloodborne fanart, /bbg/?
Have to say this, been my wallpaper for a while now and I don't think it'll change. At least not until we get an Armored Core reveal

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>>161004620
The artist is making a new piece right now

>>161004690
This is good news. Who is the artist, so I can tell when they're done?

>>161004620
Do you have it in 1080 ?

>>161005087
https://twitter.com/o10fu/media

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>>161005098
That's the biggest one I could find, sorry.

>>161005145
Fantastic, many thanks

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>>161005263
That's a shame. Good find tho she really is talented

>>160990470
>direct blood relative to the VILEBLOOD QUEEN
Yes? She became Vileblood because of the Forbidden Blood. But do you really think she gave birth to a regular ass baby AFTER she became an undead abomination?
>also annalise HAD her own child of blood
No. She wants one. That's why we give her Dregs.
>explicitly where?
The presence of Sky Burials.
>If sky burial alone is the "confirmation" then Hemwick is the origin of the HoH too.
No, because Hemwick is a place where they disposed of bodies. Nobody is "buried" there so much as they're turned to ash. That's where Bone Marrow Ashe comes from. Hemwick.

>>160995617
>useless

Pump skill you fool. It has a long ranged serrated form, go wreck half the game with it. It has an untricked thrust attack. Fuck.

Thinking of trying a str/arc hybrid build, what origin should i pick and what's a good stat allocation?

>>161005430
That's really cute actually

>>160989551
>And it's barely even a theory
Back when I spread my findings and evidence, I was rejected repeatedly. It took Maria's third phase to make people shut the fuck up and accept my idea.
> he's not weak to Arcane
He's not a Chalice dweller either though.
>he doesn't do fire magic
Yes but his blood magic is a thing and blood magic is 100% Pthumerian.
> He's just a super stronk human
With the same proportions and garb, Wielding a dagger and scythe which BOTH strongly resemble weapons found in the hands of Pthumerians in the dungeons. Not to mention is unnatural longevity and knowledge of how to use the Crown of Illusions to safeguard the throne room.
>This doesn't make sense
It's the only possible answer. We know the chalices are subterranean. We know they were built by Pthumerians. We know the network of tunnels is positively gargantuan. .
>, it was a land swallowed by the sands. There's no fucking desert near Yharnam
There doesn't have to be any desert. We already know for a fact that Loran is underground. Whatever happened with the sands must have also occurred underground. Probably some sort of arcane elder god fuckery.
>. Loran was a Pthumerian city or country or whatever, a substantial distance from Pthumuru Ihyll
I don't even fucking disagree with this. You just need to swallow the fact that the Pthumerians didn't live above ground at all until much much later when they founded Cainhurst.
>But Chalice dungeons are impossible to properly analyse in lore terms because unlike the main game we can't take what we see for granted
That's a pretty stupid argument.
>. I highly doubt Pthumuru Ihyll (the fucking capital) looked identical to the shitty Hintertombs. Or that thier entire civilisation was based on formulaic 3 layer dungeons.
Why not? They clearly employed some sort of interdimension cheatcodes to even fucking create the chalice dungeons. Why does it have to be varied?

>>161005950
>his blood magic is a thing
His magic is closer to the executioner's glove than Pthumerian shit or I'm forgetting a spell somewhere

>>161005574
When you go for min max just think of all the stats that you wont level up and pick an origin that has the least points put into them.

>>161006372
That's true, but it's still obviously blood magic. And I'm pretty sure the gloves were poorly translated, because I consider them to be a Cainhurst relic, not something belonging to Logarius's Executioners. The reason it's the same as the magic in the wheel is because both the wheel and the gloves were soaked in the blood of the subjects of Castle Cainhurst and it's Queen.

>>161006527
>it's still obviously blood magic
Why

>not something belonging to Logarius's Executioners
Why makes you say that ? You even acknowledge the fact that their wheels does the same shit, it's perfectly logical to assume they managed to create some sort of magic using cainhurst blood or whatever, but the only ones who are seen using this form of magic are related to the executioners.

So why would you say it's pthumerian when we never see any boss use this kind of spell ?

>>161006879
>Why
The color. It's red. I can't make it simpler than that.
> wheels does the same shit
Their wheel only does that because it got soaked in Cainhurst blood. Read the item description.
>but the only ones who are seen using this form of magic are related to the executioners.
Except for Queen Yharnam and Maria who both clearly have blood magic abilities too.
>So why would you say it's pthumerian
Because Pthumerians are the only ones with a real handle on how to use blood to generate magical effects.

>>161007035
>It's red
Not the same red than real blood attacks, nor the same texture and appearance, see below

>Except for Queen Yharnam and Maria who both clearly have blood magic
Their attacks are clearly based on liquid blood, executionner's glove or wheel are not, the effects are not the same. Same shit with Logarius.

>Because Pthumerians are the only ones with a real handle on how to use blood to generate magical effects
And yet we never see them using those spells in the game. Pretty weird isn't it ?

>>161007232
>>161007232
>Not the same red
Okay fine. Dark red is BLT, light red is ARC. You can't deny that both are blood based

>And yet we never see them using those spells in the game
So?

Look. I'll simplify this for you:
>It is said that the nobles found immeasurable delight in the dances of these vengeful specters
Cainhurst Nobles were playing with this thing for shits and giggles well before Logarius rolled in and killed them all. Executioners are borrowing this same angry ghost magic when they spin up their wheel.

THE LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOORE

>>161007834
To continue to elaborate on this idea, The gloves are found in a chest in a room inside the castle that also has the Knight's Garb Set. They're being stored by Cainhurst, for Cainhurst. Cainhurst invented this magic, the Executioners are merely borrowing it.

But where is the Cainhurst Blood for Logarius to abuse? His weapons don't appear blood-soaked. How is he generating those evil skulls and other effects? With his own blood. Because he's Pthumerian. I mean shit, his scythe is almost identical to Pthumerian Elder's staff and his dagger is the same as the daggers wielded by Chalice Watchers.

>>161007834
>arc is blood based
We don't really know

>So?
Ok so you admit you just pull things out of your ass, based on nothing present in the game and just try to warp the elements to suit your theory ?

>Executioners are borrowing this same angry ghost magic when they spin up their wheel.
Alright, but you forgot the rest of the description, dummass

>Passed from executioner father to executioner son, these gloves can be used to summon wrathful spirits of the past by smearing them with blood

Your sentence can also be interpreted as the nobles finding this shit hilarious after robbing one from an executioner's corpse

>>161008019
>How is he generating those evil skulls and other effects?

Necromancy. He turned himself into something resembling a Lich.

>>161005574
Cruel Fate: 40+/12+/25/12+/5/50+

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>This thread right now

>>161008138

>Ok so you admit you just pull things out of your ass
No I admit to having no idea where you're going with that claim. It doesn't matter if we don't see much of that kind of magic used in-game because my claim is that it was used by a now-defunct culture.
>Alright, but you forgot the rest of the description, dummass
No I didn't.
>Your sentence can also be interpreted as the nobles finding this shit hilarious after robbing one from an executioner's corpse
There was no war. There was a fucking massacre and nothing else. Logarius and crew turned up, purged hard and that was the end of it.
>We don't really know
Yes we do.
> these gloves can be used to summon wrathful spirits of the past by smearing them with blood
>Used to slaughter the Vilebloods in Cainhurst. Bathed in pools of their blood, and forever steeped in their ire. Transform to release the power of the wheel and manifest their lingering rage in a show of utter brilliance

repost for legibility's sake.

>>161008295
>Yes we do.
Ok then, prove it.

>No I admit to having no idea where you're going with that claim.
The wheel and gloves both prove that Exec managed to come up with a summoing magic, either from vilebloods spirits they've killed, or more ancient ones (glove)

>There was no war
Even if there was no war, exec and vilebloods were at each other's throats for probably a long time and surely killed each others multiple times in skirmishes like any typical prior conflict setting

So you just stop pulling shit out of your retarded ass with no evidence

>>161008509
>Ok then, prove it.
I did. Those descriptions prove it, and if you disagree, you're illiterate garbage and should stop posting.
>The wheel and gloves both prove that Exec managed to come up with a summoning magic
You're fucking retarded. The gloves and the wheels both demonstrate the amazing magic properties of Cainhurst blood.
>Even if there was no war, exec and vilebloods were at each other's throats for probably a long time
No. Because if they were at each other's throats for a long time, that would be a war.

>In his time, Master Logarius led his executioners into Cainhurst Castle to cleanse it of the Vilebloods."
They got purged. One attack.

>>161008620
>Those descriptions prove it
Which descriptions ? We're only talking about the exec's magic. Ok the glove uses blood. What about the other spells ?

>The gloves and the wheels both demonstrate the amazing magic properties of Cainhurst blood.
>muh cainhurst blood
Stop wanking already you stupid faggot, you're wrong and I've put your nose in your own shit

>Because if they were at each other's throats for a long time, that would be a war.
>I don't understand politics and geostrategy
Are you 12 ?

>They got purged
Yeah and ? That was the finale shit. There was probably a shitload of unofficials attacks between them for a long tim, event the fact that Cainhurst could steal blood from them at the beginning is the proof of their powers, you don't fight a powerful house of nobles if you're not sure to win and have a good reason to do so.

Retard

why do people care about being right on the internet

>>161008894
>Which descriptions ?
The two I posted. Wheel proves that the ghosts are because of the blood and gloves demonstrate the same shit.

>These gloves can be used to summon wrathful spirits of the past by smearing them with blood
>Used to slaughter the Vilebloods in Cainhurst. Bathed in pools of their blood, and forever steeped in their ire. Transform to release the power of the wheel and manifest their lingering rage in a show of utter brilliance

>Stop wanking already you stupid faggot
>Are you 12 ?
>Retard
Yeah. You're illiterate garbage and ytou're resorting to adhom because I have a rebuttal for all your complaints. We're done here. Anybody with enough of a head on their shoulders can read what I've said here today and probably agree with me.

>>161009047
We are born of the lorefagging

Made men by the lorefagging

Undone by the lorefagging

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>>161009074
>The two I posted
Yes, and which still don't prove that arcane in general relies on blood you retard

>The gloves of an executioner from a faraway land
>Since the Executioner's Gloves are said to have come from a far away land, it's possible that the Executioners have slaughtered more than just Vilebloods (essentially anyone they considered heretics). In this case, the spirits would also be from those victims as well as the slain Vilebloods.
Checkmate faggot

>Anybody with enough of a head on their shoulders can read what I've said here today and probably agree with me
Anybody with enough of a head on their shoulders can read what you've said and realize how much of a stupid retard you are kek

>>161008894
This is loranon you're talking to, just drop it. He'll never give up and you're shitting up the thread just as much as he is.

>>161009230
>which still don't prove that arcane in general relies on blood
But that's not my claim you fucking retard. My claim is that RED MAGIC IS FROM BLOOD.

>>161009238
>He'll never give up
You're right about that.
>shitting up the thread
Bloodborne discussion CANNOT shit up /bbg/.

Literally impossible.

One thing that is maybe useful for this discussion is that the altar of despair that is used to reanimate the vileblood queen has a kind of rom on top and lies in the church's choir.

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Someone post Amelia-anon's webm.

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>>161009312
>not answering to any of the arguments because you're wrong and you know it

>>161009238
It's ok, I'm done with him. He probably had to get up from the butthurt

>>161009512
You've stopped raising arguments and degenerated into full shitpost mode.

This is exactly how it used to go back in the day. I'd post well supported, well researched theories and defend them from goobers like you. Eventually egos would be wounded and dumbies like you would resort to nonstop shitposting and non-arguments.

So if I got this right
>Someone took blood to the Queen
>She became Pthumurian
>Maria too but she's not a vileblood
>Church got mad and Logarius purged the castle in one night
>With normal wheels and normal gloves too
>Vilecucks were punched and wheeled so hard their pthumoron blood powered the executioners even more
>Logarius somehow became an immortal mummy who guards the Queen so no one selfcucks to her
I like this theory

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>>161009512
>I'd post well supported, well researched theories and defend them from goobers like you
>supported and well research theory
>implying the inane, stupid shit you've written is any close to that

Keep believing your retarded thory if it makes you happy, that's what retards do

>>161009767
>Someone took blood to the Queen
Yes
>She became Pthumurian
No. She became Vileblooded. She was always of Pthumerian ancestry
>Maria too but she's not a vileblood
See above. Cainhurst = Pthumeru. But Cainhurst =/= Vileblood
>Church got mad and Logarius purged the castle in one night
>With normal wheels and normal gloves too
No, the gloves were never in the ownership of the Church. They were used by the executioner employed by the royalty at Cainhurst.
>Vilecucks were punched and wheeled so hard their pthumoron blood powered the executioners even more
This is true
>Logarius somehow became an immortal mummy who guards the Queen so no one selfcucks to her
Yeah pretty much.

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>>161009498
>when you see yourself in someone's webm

>>161009767
>Vilecucks were punched and wheeled so hard their pthumoron blood powered the executioners even more

No because the gloves could summon spirits before the execs came to contact with cainhurst. The description says so. From that it's safe to assume that the execs came up with this kind of summoning magic and could use like Logarius do. The wheels, soaked in vileblood, came up reinforced from the purge in that you're right

>>161009673
Welcome to my world.

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>>161009917
>No, the gloves were never in the ownership of the Church
They were in the execs possession from a faraway land, they have nothing to do with cainhurst prior to the contact between execs and cainhurst

>>161010015
Yes. The owner was from far away. But he was living at Cainhurst.

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>>161010147
>But he was living at Cainhurst
And the proof is ?

>>161009917
>No, the gloves were never in the ownership of the Church. They were used by the executioner employed by the royalty at Cainhurst.
But the executioners are from the church, no?

>>161009997
>No because the gloves could summon spirits before the execs came to contact with cainhurst. The description says so.
Cainhurst was Yharnam nobility, right? How come they never contacted each other?

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>>161010147
>well supported and documented research
>literally came up with the cainhurst's executioner fanfiction just a few seconds ago

>How come they never contacted each other?
They came into contact when execs arrived in Yharnam. BUT the thing is that the gloves EXISTED before that point, hence proving that execs already mastered this summoning magic BEFORE meeting cainhurst

>>161010287
Fuck see>>161010394

>>161010249
Because his gloves are at Cainhurst? They're referred to as a special treasure of the castle?

>>161010287
>But the executioners are from the church, no?
Yes but there's no saying that the executioner's gloves are related to Logarius' and his Executioners. The executioers from the glove description are from somewhere far away. Not from Yharnam.

>How come they never contacted each other?
That's not what he said. He said the ghost powers pre-date the executioner attacks.

>>161010394
So Logarius' Executioners are not from the Church and even from Yharnam at that? I need to read item descriptions again...

>>161010645
>So Logarius' Executioners are not from the Church
NO.

It's just that the gloves' owner wasn't a church hunter under Logarius. He couldn't be. He's from a foreign land.

>>161010695
Gasgoine is from another land, Eileen is from another land, the Good Hunter is from another land...

>>161010594
>logarius and wheel use the same attack than EG
>but somehow EG is not one of the execs' relics but from an hypothetical cainhurst executioners who somehow would make use from the same magic than the church execs
Yeah that sounds really plausible

>>161010645
>so Logarius' Executioners are not from the Church
They are but they must origin from somewhere else before joining yharnam. Hunters of hunters are foreigners too

>>161010798
Yes but he's from a foreign land and came to the castle before they became Vilebloods

>>161010816
. The common tie is the blood of Cainhurst Nobility anon

>Soak some gloves in their blood? GHOST GLOVES
>Soak a wheel in their blood? GHOST WHEELS.

anybody need help with anything?

>>161010897
No it's not. EG has the summoning vengeful spirits power before Cainhurst

>>161010975
Says who?

>>161010897
>Yes but he's from a foreign land and came to the castle before they became Vilebloods
He what now? I am new to the lore but I'm pretty sure I didn't read this anywhere.

>>161011081
The gloves would mention the castle inhabitants as Vilebloods if they were Vilebloods.

>Foreign-made weapon wielded by the royal guards who protect Annalise, Queen of the Vilebloods at Cainhurst Castle
Chikage mentions Vilebloods. Because it's something that became commonly used AFTER the beginning of the Viles. Gloves don't. They just mention some nobles.

>>161011081
Don't listen to him there is nothing to support this theory

>>161011042
>Passed from executioner father to executioner son, these gloves can be used to summon wrathful spirits of the past by smearing them with blood
>executioner from a far away land

Safer to assume what I'm saying than your "theory"

>>161011272
Except that your version ignores the Wheel. The wheel is an extremely important thing here.

If we know the wheel got it's powers through Cainhurst blood, we can EASILY assume the same of the gloves.

>>161011356
We alreadt talked about that. Logarius, EG, the wheels, all use the same magic, and yet cainhurst and pthumerian don't. If the cainhurst nobles had mastered this magic we would see traces of it, and logarius or the execs wouldn't use it. Also the pthumerians don't use it either, so your theory relies upon literally nothing

>>161011228
But why would a executioner be at Cainhurst? And executioners formed after the vilebloods. Sorry if I'm saying something wrong but I'm trying to make sense out of this.

>>161011578
No no you're using your brains and asking the good questions keep going.

>>161011505
>yet cainhurst and pthumerian don't
Because their blood shit is more based on BLT than ARC.
>If the cainhurst nobles had mastered this magic we would see traces of it
Why?
>Logarius or the execs wouldn't use it.
But they do. they clearly used magical ghost wheels fueled or empowered by Cainhurst blood. It says so right in the description.

>>161011578
>But why would a castle need a guy who's job is killing people
Are you kidding me?

You're getting confused by words. The executioner who owned the gloves was just some asshole from far-away who's profession was executing people.

>>161011356
Maybe the Wheel got the powers from the people it killed not especificaly vileblood. If Logarius can be a mummy he can trap souls in weapons.

>>161011749
>Used to slaughter the Vilebloods in Cainhurst. Bathed in pools of their blood, and forever steeped in their ire.
>Transform to release the power of the wheel and manifest their lingering rage

It's pretty cut and dry.

>>161010312
>20 seconds
>""""speed kill""""
Try going using filling your beast meter by smacking the mob outside amelia's room with your fists.

>>161011694
>Because their blood shit is more based on BLT than ARC.
And ?

>Why?
>Why are you asking for evidences of a said phenomenon instead of eating my shit anon ?

>But they do. they clearly used magical ghost wheels fueled or empowered by Cainhurst blood. It says so right in the description.
You're really fucking retarded. Yes, they do. That is the point. Religious fanatics wouldn't use the same weapons as their ennemies, and we don't see vilebloods using this magic, which makes it the characteristics of the execs

>>161011749
That's exactly what the gloves do too so it's not a stretch to think that the wheels do the same shit. The spirits are probably far from being only vilebloods

WHY IS THERE NO FUN BUILDS

>>161011694
>Because their blood shit is more based on BLT than ARC.
They sure love using fire and binding stuff but I guess that's right

>Why?
Because it's one of the most powerful tools in the game

>But they do. they clearly used magical ghost wheels fueled or empowered by Cainhurst blood. It says so right in the description.
But that's assuming the gloves are from Executioner origin

>>161011896
>And ?
And nothing. That's my answer. Cainhurst and the Pthumerians use BLT based stuff if they can manage. They've lost a lot of they ancient mysticism and knowledge of the Pthumerians. Mostly they just use blood ministration.
>we don't see vilebloods using this magic
Because Vilebloods use BLT shit.
>which makes it the characteristics of the execs
No it doesn't. Not when we have clear confirmation of the underlying catalyst or power at play.

>>161011989
BEAST CLAWS IS SUPER FUN.

For co-op. If you're into that sort of thing

>>161011989
What is 99 ARC Executioner Gauntlet spam
What is 50 BLT Bloodletter R1 mashing
What is 50 STR Whirligig hold L2 until it dies
What is 50/50 Stake Driver
What is -/-/50/- Chikage/Evelyn

>>161011802
Why vilecainhurst would create a tool that traps their soul via their especial kind of blood? And if comes from a foreign land it's not made in Cainhurst.

>>161012093
>Cainhurst and the Pthumerians use BLT based stuff if they can manage
Yes
>Because Vilebloods use BLT shit.
Exactly
>No it doesn't make it the trademark of the execs
So you're retarded. The catalyst mentions vengeful spirits from an ancient past older than cainhurst and from another place, and also vilebloods. The catalyst seems to be more blood of slain ennemies rather than vileblood only.

Also you can use the EG even when you're not a vileblood, using your own blood.

>come to /bbg/ to relax
>see nerd talk
ok back to sleep

>>161012075
>Because it's one of the most powerful tools in the game
So? The Cainhurst line is more focused on the value of their heritage. It makes sense that they'd abuse stuff deriving directly from their blood. BLT is more directly blood based. ARC seems to be more of a ritual/magic/great one deal. Most of the in-game magic is either accidentally and clumsily invoking the power of the cosmos or by appealing to great ones for assistance through rituals and tools. Did you know Labyrinth Ritekeepers wield a baby's skull as censer and a severed left hand with a wedding right as a catalyst? They're evoking eldritch anger at bastard children to cast their spells.
>But that's assuming the gloves are from Executioner origin
No it's not.

>>161012262
But it was Logarius and the church who built the wheels.

>>161012305
>The catalyst seems to be more blood of slain ennemies rather than vileblood only.
Then tell me why the gloves and wheel are the only ones that display these powers? Surely if anything or anybody could cause these effects, they'd be more common.

>>161012262
Exactly. Why ? WHY ?

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>>161012494
>Then tell me why the gloves and wheel are the only ones that display these powers?
Because it's executioner's magic. That's what I have been saying from the beginning you stupid faggot

>But it was Logarius and the church who built the wheels.
Precisely

What are you assholes thankful for?

>>161012725
Bloodborne

>>161012725
God for blessing me with the ability to auto-fellatio and to be able to orgasm hands free.

Also Fromsoftware for making DaS3 shit so I have an excuse to continue playing bloodborne

>>161012590
>Because it's executioner's magic.
But that's completely unreasonable. The wheel wasn't magical until it was infused with Vileblood.
>Precisely
Precisely nothing. They built the wheels and then after they were used to massacre everybody at Cainhurst they gained the special skull powers. This is directly confirmed.

The skull powers are because of the blood. and if you're going to credit Logarius for planning this, then you're only admitting that Logarius knew the power of the Cainhurst bloodline and planned ahead to make weapons that could turn it against them. If that's the case, then doesn't it just make the case for the Martyr being Pthumerian in origin even stronger?

>Wields a Pthumerian Staff and Dagger
>Dresses like a Pthumerian
>Proportioned like a Pthumerian
>Wielding magic like a Pthumerian
>Knew how to harness arcane magic like a Pthumerian.

>FRC Ihyll spelunking
>Fire witch is directly blocking the boss gate
>Hemwick witch in the same fucking room
>have to macgyver my way through witch summons and avoid getting one-shot by fire projectiles
>just to get another attempt at Pthumerian Descendant
This is by far the most painful dungeon I've spelunked

>>161012725
Bloodborne and titties

>>161012725
Beast Blood Pellets and Fire Paper because I swear to fucking god HBLB is driving me mad

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>>161012873
>The wheel wasn't magical until it was infused with Vileblood.
That's not exactly what the desctiptions says

>This is directly confirmed
No

>The skull powers are because of the blood. and if you're going to credit Logarius for planning this, then you're only admitting that Logarius knew the power of the Cainhurst bloodline and planned ahead to make weapons that could turn it against them. If that's the case, then doesn't it just make the case for the Martyr being Pthumerian in origin even stronger?
Jesus that's so twisted and retarded I cannot help but laugh, especially when my explanation is so much simpler and logical

>play bb
>wonder what build i'll play today
>auto pilot the first half of the game
>using papers and pellets
>accidentally auto pilot the entire game

Oh guess I just wanted to make another saw cleaver build... no problem... not like I haven't done that 12 times now...

>>161013038
>That's not exactly what the desctiptions says
Yes it is.

>Forever steeped in their ire.
>Transform to manifest their lingering rage

If you still disagree, I recommend googling "ire" and finding out what it means.

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>>161013157
Where does it say it didn't have powers before purging the vilebloods. Wheels and glove absorb the spirit of the vengeful foes they've killed and that's a property the executioners and logarius mastered

>I recommend googling "ire" and finding out what it means.
Stop assuming people are as dumb as you kek

>>161013306
>Where does it say it didn't have powers before purging the vilebloods
Because you can't transform to manifest the lingering ire of the dead if they aren't dead yet.
>Stop assuming
I can only act based on the information you give me. Your inability to read that one item description is a pretty fucking strong indication of retardation.


Jesus.

>>161005502
You can literally see sky graves in Hemwick.

>>161013412
>Because you can't transform to manifest the lingering ire of the dead if they aren't dead yet
That's why I'm saying it doesn't restrict to the spirits of vilebloods, especially when we have a fucking glove which does the same shit and dates from prior the vilebloods

>I can only act based on the information you give me
I gave you everything and reasonned with all the elements we're given, while you're too busy looking at your own dick and decorticating each elements one by one, instead of looking at the big picture.

But hey, stay faithful in your retarded theory m8

What's the strongest BLUNT gems I can get before Amelia; I know you're here Ameila fag.
I'm going to do your challenge but with the KIRKHAMMER

>>161013513
Google "Charnel House" and get back me. Hemwick literally cannot be a place of sky burials. It's also just another part of Yharnam, which means the first HoH cannot hail from there.

I hate how people are spreading meme theories here just for the sake of it.
Just accept some theories are more likely than others.

>>161013706
Not him but what are we talking about when we say '"sky graves" ? The guys suspended upside down in hamlet looking like the hunter's rune or some other shit

>>161011828
I'm not Amelia-anon, and the kill is more around 12 seconds. But yeah getting beasthood up before the fight is a good idea.

>>161013709
Did you know One Reborn is actually Orphan of Kos?

>>161013709
Oedon is wet nurse and Jesus, the holy trinity

>>161013623
All that distinction does is prove that Cainhurst blood is special too, even without any Vileblood influences at all. Maria proves this too.

>>161013928
Of course Cainhurst blood is special, it's extremely powerful. So powerful in fact that their queen is immortal. What I'm saying doesn't contradict that

>>161013790
Any sort of open air funerary rite counts so long as there aren't any elements of cremation or whatever.

We could reference the hanging corpse at the lantern, but there's also a bunch of boats floating around with corpses wrapped and laid to rest in them. A floating casket would still quality as a sky burial. Either works if you ask me.

Anyone in need of help? Id like to coop now.

>>161014001
>Of course Cainhurst blood is special, it's extremely powerful. So powerful in fact that their queen is immortal
Their Queen is immortal only because of VILEBLOOD. Cainhurst blood is what she already possessed before the Rogue Scholar came to visit.

>>161013706
Dude. They are sky burials. I'm not even saying the first HoH came from hemwick, I'm just saying that sky burials alone isn't the main selling point on why the first hoh came from the hamlet.
-foreign land
-hates hunters because obvious reasons
-and sky burials

but not:
confirmed because sky burials

ITT: MY THEORY MAKES MORE SENSE THAN YOUR THEORY
IM RIGHT YOUR WRONG
REEE

>>161014445
>I'm just saying that sky burials alone isn't the main selling point on why the first hoh came from the hamlet.
Yeah sure but it's a really strong argument that helps to tie it together. Sky burial is the only major thing we know about his homeland.

Have you gotten next level yet? Do you do translation errors and develpment mistake lore? Because I've got a doozy for you.

Burial Blade is actually meant to be the Blade of Mercy and the Blades of Mercy is actually supposed to to be the Burial Blades. Isn't mercy Gherman's trait? And isn't "burial" the Hunter of Hunter's thing?

>>161012253
>What is 99 ARC Executioner Gauntlet spam
Whoever said this is fun should really consider the meaning of the word. I just got 50 ARC and spamming the gauntlet ad nasuem is the complete OPPOSITE of fun.

>>161014281
But everyone knew that already

>>161013692
what challenge

t. new ro /bbg/ nut playing since release on/off

>>161015149
Not this guy apparently.

>>161014281
>Queen of Cainhurst
>possess Cainhurst blood
I think you're into something anon

>>161015213
Dive into chalice dungeons after bsb and autistically grind the best gems you can get before killing Amelia, spending 6+ hours so you can kill her 6-8 seconds faster

Best place to invade? I an starting to see familiar faces, worn out places, worn out faces in Mergo's loft middle

>>161015443
God you're even more retarded than I thought. Of course I knew that, what's your point ?

>>161015624
lol

what's the record?

>>161016063
What's your BL? There's Woods, Cainhurst, Burgers and Fries and Frontier.

>>161016472
>Burgers and Fries

What's this ?

So 98-117 is the bl pvp meta?

>>161016596
Byrgenwerth

>>161016647
80-120

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>>161016647
80-120. At 98 you can invade most at that range.

When you had to live in Yharnam, what "covenant" would you join, if any?

Choir seems good to me.

>>161012253
>50/50 Stake Driver
How would that even work? Wouldn't that leave VIT super low?

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Roll

>>161009960
Was a fun session we had.

>>161010312
Noice. Kinda puts my best time of :47 to shame. But then I haven't done the pre-Amelia gear up.

>>161016895
Choir would be the best choice for power and situation. Also space wizardry. Problem is that I would likely end up mad or paranoid with all this shit going on and the full realization of what is going onin Yharnam.

Hunter of hunter or executioner seems better from a tranquility perspective

>>161016196
Then why did you credit Cainhurst blood for the effect of Vileblood?

>>161016895
I'd stay well away from the Healing Church, assuming I come knowing how fucked up the Old Blood is. I'd like to say I'd become a Hunter of Hunters, but I don't think I have it in me to kill another person, or hunt beasts. I'm too much of a pussy for that.
In reality, I'd probably be a normal Yharnam citizen or a student at Byrgenwerth. I can't hunt for shit.

>>161016972
not everything has to be a pvp build

>>161016883
Byrgenwerth
Burgerwerth
Burgertown
Bob's Burgers
Five Guys Burgers and Eyes

>>161017159
I was hungry and didn't fully read your sentence. My apologies, now what is your point about cainhurst blood, other than it being so potent vile blood made them fucking vampires

>>161016895
Confederates, no question. I am personally sick of the mad doctors, slugs and beasts roaming around.

thanks to the guy named valtr who helped me on ludwig
how do you get titles for your character?

>>161016895
I would live at Arianna's door

>>161017527
After you kill enough people it automatically appears

>>161017527
Kek

>>161017292
You said:
> I'm saying it doesn't restrict to the spirits of vilebloods, especially when we have a fucking glove which does the same shit and dates from prior the vilebloods
I said
>No shit, but we already knew that from other things.

And then there was a miscommunication somewhere.

Oh right. Okay, I've got it worked out.

>Wheels and glove absorb the spirit of the vengeful foes they've killed and that's a property the executioners and logarius mastered
I was opposed to this for more than one reason. First of all, Gloves have no canonical connection to Logarius or his crew. I maintain that they're simply gloves that belonged to Cainhurst's Royal headsman/executioner. The other reason being that there's no evidence that the Wheel was developed for beasthunting or ever even conceived of before Logarius took it upon himself to cleanse Cainhurst or that Logarius can trap "souls". The way the descriptions and dialogue talks about it, there wasn't any sort of extended conflicted. Logarius raised a mob of disciples and went in and "slaughtered" them. The wheel description talks about Vileblood rage and manifesting that anger when you use it. It's clearly been given this ability by it's contact with Vileblood. Though I actually hold that it's Pthumerian heritage that's important to make your blood a good catalyst for arcane blood effects.

>been playing bloodborne for over a month
>notice that multiplayer seems kind of dead
>just found out yesterday that matchu=ing was set to local and not worldwide
kek
why is local even the default?
also, do you guys prefer to display character names or online IDs?

>>161018234
>why is local even the default?
Japs.