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Wood Elves a shit. Morghur edition.

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Previous bread >>160780527
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TRUE KING OF EIGHT PEAKS
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is this a free dlc codes thread
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MEDIEVAL THREE WHEN
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So what are they doing with the expansions again?

Releasing a new game that's not really a new game if you own the current game and expansions that's like an amalgamation of new and old with new stuff?
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>>160862824
It's a standalone expansion that also joins together with the vanilla game, or something.

Lord knows how the DLC's will work for the people who only own the expansion.
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>>160862824
They've been deliberately vague, most likely because they have no idea how to implement it. All we know is that the three games will be standalone products that can also fit together "like a jigsaw".
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First for Empire is best faction
>inb4 dwarves
>inb4 muh vamps
>inb4 elfcucks
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G O B L I N S
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>>160863243
>they have no idea how to implement it

You think they went forward with the connecting trilogy plan with no idea how to implement it even after over 6 months of developing part 2. Are you fucking retarded? You don't greenlight a 10 year investment if you have no idea how to even make it.
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Could i meme people online by bringing nothing but flying units and missile cav?

Chaos maticore and horse spam, is there anything they can do if they dont have ranged?
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So if Durthu starts out in a different region, does that mean he won't start out with the Oak of Ages?
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>>160864349
Do either faction start with it?

How many settlements will belong to WE in GC?

Hoping Athel Loren is more than just 3 settlements.
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VC armies being able to recruit riderless Zombie Dragons, but only if they raise dead in the Plain of Bones after the general has reached a certain level. High upkeep. y/n?
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>>160864218
You're gonna run out of ammunition eventually if you're using straight ranged. If it's all Shock Cav then you might have a chance if you take out their Anti-Large units with artillery.

If all of their units aren't dead by the time you're out of missiles, their (remaining) infantry will run you down and kill you. Same with Anti-Large against the flying units. Frankly I have no idea how to beat flying units as Empire and it's fucking frustrating so I just use Spearmen
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>>160864460
There's 5 regions, from what we can tell.
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>>160864597
If you cycle charge a unit with 5 flying units it will route after like 2 charges, even anti large cant do much since you can attack from every angle.

They wont be able to catch the stupidly fast cav could they?
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>>160863243
>>160862824
Four races for the new world one

I'm guessing they'll do what they didn't do with the first game which is break the races up into factions

Malekith's faction will be "the dark elves" and then you'll have 1-2 subfactions and they'll repeat that for each race so that each has some nice starting areas except maybe Skaven. And Skaven will be Clan Pestilens and thus a subfaction instead of the Skaven proper, who will be in Skavenblight and be unplayable if you don't have the expansion- thus forcing redditors to pay 40-60 dollars for their favorite faction.
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>>160864465
>spending this many charlemagnes on a gimmick flavor mechanic

Add new technology for raising undead dragons, give it flavor text about journeying to bone plains to get bones. Don't actually bother to go to bone plains with your army and mannlet because it's a pain because the plains are full of greenskins and spiky manlets and fat guys who eat everything
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>>160863161
Durthu fucking where
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Any chance of spirit hosts making it in?

The way ethereal works in this a tarpit unit might be a bit to strong though.
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>>160865034
tommorow.
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>>160865130
fug
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>>160865130
Is Morgur announced? How the fuck are they going to animate a cow-slug?
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>>160865056
We have yet to see any swarm units, so I doubt it.
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>>160865457
See the gameplay trailer in OP, he's in there.

He's got regular legs. Which isn't exactly lore-breaking since he's supposed to constantly change form.
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Why are the dragons so small in this game?
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>>160865763
For you

They are not that small still like 30 times the size of a human.
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>>160865056
If they have really low leadership it could work so they'll crumble more easily despite being a strong tarpit, sort of like in tt
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>>160865662
not to mention his model's got legs too
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I'll do anything for total war:Victoria or total war:china
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>New free beastmeme units announced to accompany the wood elf dlc
>Chaos Feral Manticore
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>>160866057
But my understanding was that warhammer dragons were all fucking absurdly huge and could destroy a castle by sitting on it.
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Moving Volkmar and my 2 Arch Lectors around

>I will do anything for Sigmar
>Sigmar wills it
>I sense Sigmars hand in this
>Praise Sigmar
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>>160863161
>literally lore of metal
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>enemies armies are still able to double back, sack one of your cities, and outrun your army

WHY
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>>160866886
build wall
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>>160866540
Here you go.

They look about right to me.
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>>160866248
>tfw you will never mow down hundreds of chinks with a giant machine gun
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>>160866540
Most of those dragons died long ago, the few left are sleeping
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>>160866248
too bad because you're getting Total War: Cavemen and Some Mammoths
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Why did nobody warn me that Karl Franz looks like he's playing DDR when he's idle?
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>>160868914
>SUMMON THE ELECTOR COUNTS
>THEY NEED TO SEE MY SICK MOVES
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>>160867034
Those be younger dragons
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>>160867527
That would be awesome. Neanderthals will be merc units.
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>Co-op with a friend, he plays as Skaeling while I play as Chaos, try out Kholek for the first time
>First 15 turns
>Kislev already have 2 stacks
>Get cornered
>20% in my favour roughly
>Fight battle
>Kholek and Chaos Spawn kill 200+ each
>Dragon Ogres at 100

How good are Chaos Spawn actually? They feel "meh" lategame but early they seem to wreck.
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>>160868914
Pычи, двигaй тaзoм, пoкaзывaй вceм чиo ты импepaтop.
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>>160870531
blyat vodka cyka
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Give me Kislev.
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>>160870503
Statistically, they aren't as offensively powerful as trolls, but their unbreakable morale and the speed of their attacks makes them, probably, Chaos' best unit.
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>>160870503
Chaos spawn are absolute melee monsters, any sort of regular infantry you throw against them will suffer disproportionate casualties unless you focus some ranged fire on them as well. And the AI probably isn't going to focus your spawn, so they're going to get bang for their buck.
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>>160863161
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g7_VlmEamUQ
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We'll always be friends, won't we, Gobbla?
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p7uSYaGe_Pw
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>>160870503
They do a lot of damage and dont run
You could just make a whole army of them and win most of the time
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Why oh why are quickmatches set on large unit sizes?

Completely ruins MP for me
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>>160873476
Game is balanced for large.
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>>160873649
>there are people that play on anything less than ultra unit sizes
what the FUCK
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>>160874130
>making magic even more useless
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>>160874212
If it's gonna be underwhelming you might as well go all the way to make it clear what's worth it and not.
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>>160874130
>playing with ultra unit sizes
If you want to micromanage that bad, just pick up a manager position at Denny's
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I know everyone is busy talking about warhammer, but is anyone up for a simple guide about how to succeed as the Ikko Ikki on H/VH/L?
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>>160874815
The amount of micro required in a battle does not change significantly between unit sizes.
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>>160874843
Sure. Your units are shit, so only use katana ash or light cave until late game. When in doubt be aggressive, and make vassals until daimyo honor is 6. Realm divide starts from turn 10.
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They need to make total war:1 or total war empire remastered.

In remastered, we get more playable factions, larger map, include China, Africa, south America, start earlier with renaissance units and end with machine guns, add better tech tree, more fort diversity, and larger armies.

It's 2016 almost 2017, we should be able to have armies of 25,000 +
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>>160875203
Expanding on this, 1 general + 19 katana ashigaru will last you until you start seeing heavy samurai stacks.

Internal economy is very important. Central Japan (especially omi) is a trap.
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>>160875327
>It's CURRENT YEAR LOL
stop

Anyway the more dudes you have the worse they have to look.
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>>160875327
It doesn't matter what year it is. Processors are not capable of handling that many.
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>>160875327
Bad idea.
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>>160874815
are you retarded?
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>>160875753
Only when I'm here
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The thing about Foreverial tied up Tiedup Dwarf is that he loves being tiedup and wants to lick other dwarfs with his permanent bologna ham and cream cheese tongue and pass the virus that will fully delitize and change their organs and insides so that they end up being rope mummified, covered in permanent rubbery rope just like him. Literally a machine, literally like a machine and enjoying it. Tiedup like a Tomb King, changed forever, to live fully delitized and live wrapped like a Tomb King wearing the bondage like a form of permanent clothing that can't be taken off.
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I want to smell Vampire chans butt!!!!
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>>160876094
as someone who hates bologna
stop it please
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>>160876094
delitize this
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>>160870723
Kislev, blyat?
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>>160876094
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>>160875327

JUST ROAST MY CPU RIGHT UP NIGGA
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Is there any way to see the lifetime kills of a unit?
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>>160876275
Da.
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>>160876224
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>>160878349
I never asked for this
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>The Sunmaker unlocks once you have a lvl 2 Artillery building in Nuln
>The Tattered Souls unlock once you have a lvl 2 Temple of Sigmar
>The Royal Altdorf Gryphites unlock once you have a lvl 5 Altdorf
>Da Eight Peaks Loonies unlock once you have control of Karak Eight Peaks
>The Skyhammer unlocks once you have a lvl 15 engineer
>The Gob Lobber unlocks after you kill or capture "arbitrary amount" of Goblin units/Greenskins
>Ekrund Miners unlock once you take...Ekrund

examples of some randy shit they could have implemented in order to recruit ROR.
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>>160877102
I think Shogun 1 had something like that but otherwise no.
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>>160878349
Stop this, please. Never has there been a more fucked up copypasta then this.
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>>160878349
>I'll take the deli gun

PFFFFFT
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>>160879509
This is the author of these masterpieces. Just look at him.
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アセル・ローレンでは永遠のお茶会が行なわれています。その鮮やかな緑の中で「働いたら負け」は常識です。まさにNEET天国であります。その恵されたところではアリエルが永遠に森の平和を見張っています。

外の世界は辛い頑張りで苦しんでいる。苦しめば、苦しんでいるほど、NEETエルフの理想なのんびり王国を恨んでいるですがその恨んでいる過労死社会はアセル・ローレンに触れておくことさえできません。

まるで外の世界が存在してないのようで今日もお茶会が続いています。神隠しされた純粋少年がお茶入れたり森の妖精がそそっかしくに光っています。笑い声が夜更けまで響いています。

時期にNEETエルフが来ます。
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>>160878805
It saddens me how uninspired TW is becoming. How bout those one-size-fits-all Lord skill trees? You can get +2% movement speed on all your 29 movement dwarfs! How's that for a worthy investment? Final Transmutation? Here's some shiny particle effects and a DoT, no actual transmutation though. Racial tech trees? +5% reload speed for missile units, -5% recruitment cost for your tier 1 trash, but we'll give it a fitting name at least.
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Dali Total War when?
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Elf qts on my face
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>>160878805
By the time you unlock half of those they'd be useless
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>>160879757

Isn't that Mike "Nigger Grave Digger" Stoklasa from RLM?
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>You have been excommunicated!

I'm done. When people talk about how fuck M2 is they must mean the battle system exclusively, because the campaign is shit compared to Rome and compared to all the games afterwards.
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>>160880590
I love how ridiculous the M2 campaigns can get though
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Caved and bought welves. Also bought my friend the grim and the grave dlc because counts are his favorite. I feel jolly. How's the eternal general today? Slaughtering commoners in the name of your gods?
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>>160880749
Clearing out some slots for Gors in my army.
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>>160879818
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>>160880749

Removing urks and grobi from the badlands currently on my dwarf playthrough.
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>>160880843
Ungors! The best of beast and man, in one cute package. >:3
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>>160881019
Those ungors are being unmade
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>>160881019
*rawr*
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>Bretonnia
>they don't release fleshed out Mousillon as well

0/10 would not kill them then raise them
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>>160880229
They should be a lot stronger than their counterparts then
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>Not a single black or brown person in the entire game

after all this time, it still surprises me how, not only did CA actually do that, with all the diversity push in gaming, but also how there was not a single shitstorm about it;
I mean, I can totally imagine articles about how the Empire is exclusively made of white men only.


Is the Total War fanbase truly redpilled?
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So it looks like that "unique lord starting zone" mod is fucking insanely out of date. Is there a new one being worked on by someone or did CA just implement it?
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>>160882316

Do Greenskins count as poc?
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>>160882498
>greenskins
>people
At best they're barely sentient fungi.
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Is warhammer worth getting? I was a fan of TW:R and TW:R2 and shogun 2. I got a bunch of refunds off shitty steam games and have been eyeballing it for awhile.
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>>160863606
Goblins...
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>>160863161
Orion needs to do more squats. One of the best looking video game muscular torsos tho. no homo.
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>>160882893
not by itself

you need the dlc
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>>160882316
You know you're right. Especially how even GW is jumping onto it with "All paladins in official media will be painted black for some reason"

It sounds terrible but it's kind of nice not having a shit show brought up over literally nothing.
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>>160882986
his nipples look like milk duds
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>>160883261
>>160882893
You only need DLC if you want to play one of those factions (Beastmen, Wood Elves, Angrund, or Crooked Moons) or to just beef up the roster of one of the in-game factions that you play. If you never play Dwarfs or Greenskins, there's no point for you to get King&Warlord.
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>>160883580
I have a yellow liquid for your popcorn
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>>160883719
Is it non dairy?
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>>160883719
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>sack a WRE frontier settlement
>FOUR STACKS MATERIALIZE FROM NOTHINGNESS
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Has anyone ever beaten napoleon total war as sweden in darthmod?? I swear, it is fucking hard
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Norscan fucking shits.
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So Wood Elves can occupy everywhere. Does that mean everyone can occupy their settlements or will it be "sack or raze" only?
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>Be Empire
>In the middle of a war with VC
>Karak Kadrin asks for a non-agression pact
>They like my actions against the VC
>ok
>Next turn
>Karak Kadrin has declared war on you!

Total War diplomacy I guess.
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>>160866540
Dragons are various in size. Most are the smaller types some are the huge types. The huge types don't usually let people ride them
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>>160882893
I'd say so, personally I've been having a lot of fun with it. Really it depends if you have any interest in a fantasy Total War.

The major down side is it's just one part in a bigger three game project so there's going to be a lot DLC. So if you do just get anything you intend to use.
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>>160884497
Wood Elf settlements are divided into the Athel Loren settlements, which have a ton of building slots and are where everything gets done, and their outposts that can only have one building. It's very likely that their outposts can be occupied by relevant factions (So a karak outpost can be occupied by greenskins but not vampires), and the Athel Loren settlements can be sack or raze only.

I don't see anyone else being allowed to occupy the spooky woods.
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>>160884005
>using Napoleon Darthmod

for what purpose
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>>160884497
I'd imagine the regular rules would apply.

So if it was a dwarf settlement only Orcs/Dwarfs could take it back.

It's just that Wood Elves can shit everywhere.
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>>160882386
Plz respond
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>>160885113
I hope Athel Loren changes appearance to a treeless, ash-covered wasteland when razed.
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>>160884724
For me it's been Karak Kadrin thats always been the problem.

Was in the middle of removing Mousillon when they decide to back stab me just so they can raid the one small town that has no walls.
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>>160885804
good luck
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>>160886058
>tfw no asrai zombie gf
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Am I a bad person for liking Rome 2 over Attila?
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>>160886375
do you have ringlets of hair that fall forward over your forehead
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>>160886375
No. Just a pleb.
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>>160885207
Larger units, more diversity, and more difficulty
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>>160886418
no
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>>160886058
Heck, I don't mind elves, I just hope the razed province effect is more pronounced than it is for other provinces since razing athel loren would have to be pretty literal to work.
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>>160886418
>>160886437
Rome 2 was actually better than Attila if you got some mods
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>>160886375
No it's a much more interesting setting and that alone can make you over look it's flaws.

Like Attila has much better battles but thats all it really has going for it.
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>>160886592
At the very least there should be something special for that big tree of theirs.
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>>160886819
Get the mods for rome 2 that make each turn be 2 months instead of a year, make mercenaries cheaper, Unit packs, improved diplomacy, increase unit size, and harder difficulty and you basically have the best melee based total war game
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>People in this thread actually use Steel Faith Overhaul
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>>160887250
>he thinks being contrarian makes him feel special
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Remember to invest in your crops, fellow nosferatu!
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???
https://youtu.be/GBZclNfu2kE
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>>160888716
Is this a trailer for the new series? I remember the old one being really good.
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>>160888828
Yes, first episode is going to be a team of wrestlers commanding Hannibal's army while /tg/ autistics command Scipo's army.
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HELP
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It is now Official. Athel Loren is radiant in its resplendence. Delicate young boys cavort for the delight of their mistresses, and the luminescence of sprites and pixies flicker through the enchanted wood. The Sisters of Twilight languorously uncurl from their embrace; panpipes flute a tune of merriment throughout the halls of the summerstrand. The diverting indignities of gorposting and Deep-Thinking Goblins are a receding memory, a windblown fragment of the season past. All Asrai make ready for frolic and improductivity; indolence is the watchword, and none can be found but are feverishly, zealously committed to inactivity.

From the Oak of Ages, the Eternal Queen watches and is warmed by the celebrations of her people. In such a festive air, Orion's rebirth cannot but be imminent; Ariel's handmaidens ceaselessly weave flowers into her hair, presenting an endless procession of styles and and aspects by which their beloved monarch might greet her consort. Those that retain a sense of time and worldly events look to his arrival; Naieth's divinations serve only to confirm what the jubilant atmosphere of the forest makes evident.

Wood Elves Confirmed.
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>>160889830
Go with Pontus they are a meme faction anyway.
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>>160888716
>tfw no /twg/ team
>tfw we will never repeatedly destroy Napoon, Antiochus and Hannibal with the hammer and anvil
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>>160889958
>yfw WELFS soon.
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>>160882316
SHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH.

before sjws take notice.

they're already starting to attack 40k because of god emperor trump.
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>>160888716
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xtTJwDUiDp8

>It's an elephants fuck up everything episode
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>>160882316
Balthasar Gelt is a proud man of color
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>>160889958
I don't want elf poster to stop.

Please keep going after welfs are out. Do elfcucks cuckelfs or edgelfs.
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>>160890293
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>opening cinematic will only include first 4 factions

LITERALLY UNPLAYABLE
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>>160889830
pontus is your military ally, kartli only defensive

also thats all i have to guess on, i dont see resources, proximity to you, faction strength
i.e. important shit
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>>160891083
What a fucking pointless and stale ass meme. Where is my tomb kangz bro at ? That is quality and spicy meme.
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>back from uni
>want to play Attila on my good computer
>it says I need to update my drivers
>try to check for updates
>windows gives me some gay-ass error message (0x8007042c)
>look up solution online
>nothing but Pahjeets giving useless advice
>mfw I'm tech illiterate, I don't know what do, and I just want to make the WRE great again
I made a grave mistake when I """"""'upgraded"""""""' to windows 10
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What mods do all these shitters use in multiplayer?

I can never get in half the games because of "different version"
Im assuming thats just mods right?
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>>160893524
Aye. They're probably using a superior mod like Radious.
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>>160893524

Probably the camera mod tbqh
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>>160893705
I tried loading up with the camera mod, but theres even less games that match my version then..... actually, 0
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>>160892631
>Tomb Kings will never be announced
>My reaction face in this scenario
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>>160889830
PONTUS
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>2/3 hordes get mauled by multiple stacks coming from nowhere in one turn
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Why the fuck is there no good centralized source for decent TW information. It's sad that spreadsheet simulators like Paradox games have decent wikis while I still need to use fucking GFAQs guides from a decade ago to find out shit about a franchise much more popular.
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>>160890627
jesus christ the way nusbacher fucking schools the guys at 42:00
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>>160890545
>/pol/yps ruin 40k for everyone involved.
can't wait for trump to be impeached tbph
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>>160828642
>>160862558
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>>160896461
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>>160896502
das a pretty kitty
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>>160882316
Not in Age of Sigmar.
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>>160896461
Beggar Nohammer is a gay stuntie.
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>>160896502
does your cat like my edit
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>>160896910
It's like how the Salamanders are all black but they're actually white.
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>>160896738
>>160896960
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>tfw really want tomb kingz
>mainly because their monster units sound absolutely insane

the idea of seeing a giant stone skeleton shooting a fuck huge bow at people is enticing. That and whatever the hell the weird sphinx things are.
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>>160896910
but thats clearly just a caucasian man painted to look black.

just look at the hair
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>>160897145
>>160896502
I raise you my own
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>>160897481
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>>160896910
Whats wrong with having a black guy as an errant questor?
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>>160896910
is that a space marine?
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>>160897819
A Sigmarine.
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Where were you when the memes died?
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>>160897819

No, they're ground marines

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_-MzNpMD1K8
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>>160897935
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>>160897971
>40k has literal sigmarines
>dank mememan puts unrelated chapter because he hates them
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>>160896910
That nigga look like a common depiction of Caesar. Does this mean Caesar really was black?
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>>160898139

It's very easy to hate the Ultramarines. Just like how AoS is made to hate.
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What does regeneration do exactly on the corpse cart?
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>>160899054

it regenerates units that are within aura range of the cart.

it'll make your zombies and skellies last longer basically
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>>160899497

It's just I don't see an aura radius on it, but I figured it was something like that
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>>160899630

I think the normal corpse cart just has regen for itself and passive buffs for your units.

The lodestone one has a regen aura.
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How do I into vampire cunts efficiently?
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>>160899934
succ
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>>160899934

All flying army.
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Someone be my bf
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>>160899934

are you talking campaign or battle wise?
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>>160900365
campaign
and battle
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>>160900334
Sure bby give me a kiss

Pic related me on the right
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>>160899934
replace archers with heavy hitters/monstorous infantry
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>>160900459
Pick vlad or Mannfred to start with. Concentrate on upgrading your capital, you have a really hard time making money as the vamps outside of provinces that straight up have gold mines and shit.
Beeline for corruption spread, or just blitz really fast as you have the strongest, most-replenishable army in the early stages of the game, depends on what difficulty you're playing on and if you can deal with public-order as quickly as you're expanding.

Any allies are fairly unviable but suck stunted dick as much as you can. You don't border Karak Norn so you're not in a terrible spot, but all other stunties run close behind Norn's pure malevolence.

Finally, aim to get walls up in every single settlement before the skraelingening hits.

On battle, transition out of zombies as quickly as possible.
Soul Siphon + vlad/mannfred's combat ability will win any leader duel without difficulty early game.
Dire wolves are respectable shock cavalry when armies are still low tier, they'll get hundreds of kills a battle.(they just usually don't survive).

Always overcast invocation of nehek, it's your strongest spell.

Try to remember that you're not immune to morale, you just crumble instead of rout. Crumbling units are better because they continue to do damage and more importantly: hold the enemy, but they'll still deteriorate off the battlefield almost as quickly as a routing unit.
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>>160900459

>for campaign

if you care about a strong starting lord roll with either vlad von carstein or mannfred since they are both solid melee fighters and have access to good spells or starting units. Ghorst is a nice support since he can fucking summon a wight king out of nowhere and has a corpse cart mobile thing. Kemmler is shit tier.

A good starting lord is vlad since he has vanguard for shitting on ranged heavy opponents and it can be hard to get vlad since you have to raze Altdorf.

in terms of getting your campaign up and going do the first battle against templehof and then raise the dead. Now if you are decent at fighting you can just gun it for templehof and take their capitol. If you're lazy or don't want to risk it you can go for the other city which is generally unguarded. If you're lucky the AI will send out it's original army from templehof into open battle where you have a good shot at winning since initial city garrisons suck massive ass. Also grab eschen or whatever that third city is to secure the province and start taxing fuckers.

after that grab templehof and start building up your territory. I generally rush for the grave guard units since basic skeletons suck complete ass while grave guard can actually hold the line. Another option is to rush the haunted woods building line to get access to crypt horrors/terrorgheists/varghulfs since they are pretty fucking solid.

after that take over the other chunk of Sylvania and from there you can basically do anything you fucking want on the campaign. make sure to build a fuck ton of gold and vampire corruption shit so that when chaos comes you won't get fucked.
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>>160870707
Кaк вoдoчки хoчeтcя...
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>>160901304
If by monstrous infantry you mean crypt-horrors then you want them in the red box to charge through your own lines.
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>>160902058

>for battles

initially battles are pretty straight forward since you basically have skeletons and bats. So initial army make up is of a few zombies for holding positons with skeleton warriors and spearmen for holding the line against the enemy. and fell bats or crypt ghouls for flanking or slapping enemy ranged units.

During the beginning fights your lord is your biggest strength unless you have kemmler who is fucking useless. Keep your lord close to the key points of battle to keep morale as high as possible and prevent crumbling. Use invocation of nehek like a mother fucker and if you are feeling a little ballsy or the opportunity arises spawn skeleton warriors behind the enemies main line to get a flanking/routing bonus against that line.

Once you get access to the heavy hitters the vampire counts shine. terrogheists are good monster killers and tanks since they have AP and anti-large. blood knights are great cavalry though the spooky skeleton ones are very nice and cheaper. grave guard are your front line. crypt horrors are nice infantry killers especially if they flank. the corpse cart and mortis engine are very useful for regenerating people or passively damaging your opponent.

The one unit I still don't fully know are the ethereal cavalry and infantry the vampire counts get. They are really hit or miss for me but they are fun to use. hexwraiths are decent anti-cav and flankers same as cairn wraiths. but you would only bring 1-2 of each since if the opponent has magic or fire they melt like butter.
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>>160902734
The ethereal units are fine, probably not worth the cost over ordinary units fine, but they're still okay.
They're THE invocation of nehek target though.
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>>160901304
I think I understand this, thanks.

>>160902058
>>160902734
This is also useful, thanks. I'm like 40 turns in with Vladimir and while i'm surviving i'm not the strongest empire yet, and it feels like i'm poor as shit. I have Vladimir for taking out the enemy and I have two smaller armies to help defend my provinces but I feel eternally broke.
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>>160902936

>but I feel eternally broke.

a good idea to make decent cash flow as vampire counts is to make eastern Sylvania your only military hub and make anything else conquered an economic hub first.

Always get your smaller settlements to the third tier and get walls since then you won't have to keep an army there to defend them. so always get the building that boosts your population growth first unless you are desperate for a different building. The Siege AI will wait a few turns giving you time to maneuver your primary army to go back and help the besieged settlement.

if you're lucky the AI won't tend to fuck with you and then you can just pick your targets and blitz their settlements and sue for a quick peace.

also always use the boost tax edict since you need all the money.
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Does "No DLC for DLC" mean Chaos and Beastmen won't get Regiments of Renown?
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>>160903587
Unless they get it in a FLC update that comes with other DLC, no.
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>>160903587
No one has provided the source of the "no DLC for DLC" claim. If it's the case, then >>160903782
is probably right.
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>>160903587

if they follow that no DLC for DLC policy they might just add really big updates for DLC factions in the expansions or as FLC.

Though I am hopeful that in the third expansion that is supposed to be all about chaos gods n shit that they will get a super powered version of ROR involving the four chaos gods.
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Do you think they'll ever add Age of Sigmar elements to the game? Like as a mini campaign or something.
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>>160904248
Radious already did.
>GW goes to full autismo lengths to create an OC donut steel IP
>The biggest hack in TW history after Darth literally makes those units in Warhammer and renames them as his OC Donut steel units.

truly halal.
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>>160898167
You're now officially woke.
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>>160898167
Of course he was, wake up sheeple
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>>160904248
They are only using lore up to and including 8th edition. No End Times. No Age of Sigmar.
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>>160904387

what the fuck

are there screenshots?
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>>160904575

Kind of a shame. Getting Stormfiends would have been rad.
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>>160904873
God no. Stormfiends are radious tier awful.
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>>160904612
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>>160905961

>that fucking toy mallet

WEW
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whats the comfiest tw game?
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>>160906195
rome 1
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>>160906195
Medieval 2
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>>160906563
MUH MED
U
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M
E
D
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>>160906961
MEH MUD
E
H

M
U
D
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>>160888716
>that bloke from Masterchef
>Mike Loades
>Dr Schmoidal Shekelstein (tranny)
It's going to be cracking, lads.
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>>160904873
>Kind of a shame. Getting Stormfiends would have been rat.
ftfy
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>>160896461
Saved.

>>160897819
No it's a Trueborn Thunderstruck Everlasting. Which is more trademark friendly.
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>>160907421
Wood Elves steam when?
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>>160904387
>Think this is a satire program, a mistranslation or something similar.
>It's real.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/middleeast/saudiarabia/2963744/Mickey-Mouse-must-die-says-Saudi-Arabian-cleric.html
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>>160907827
>he hasn't seen al-memri before
you never visit /int/ I take it?
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>>160907917
I go there occasionally when I feel like engaging in some mutual cultural enrichment.

I've only ever seen the leaf edit of that image.
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>>160896461
Saved
Thank you senpai, you're da best.
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>>160907827
To be quite honest, directing religious zealotry towards exterminating vermin is a solid idea.
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>>160905961
>just gave them hammerer weapons
bravo
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>>160907917
Do Albanians practice some weird sect of Islam that makes Arabs mad or what?
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>>160908495
no idea, some anon suggested that they are not talking about albanians, but about followers of some preacher named al-bani
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Can we talk about total war now?
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>>160904575
I wonder if they will ever do a Sigmar mini campaign set during the founding of the Empire.

I mean just reading through Sigmar's article there seem to be enough LL for all major factions.

Unborgen Tribe: Sigmar
Norscii: Cormac Bloodaxe (can ascend to Daemon Prince status)
Undead: Nagash
Dwarfs: Kurgan Ironbeard
Greenskins: Urgluk Bloodfang
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>>160870723
>>160876275
>>160877432
Bloody hoping they'll be a Warmaster-tier army list.

With Bear Cavalry, Bear Packs, Gryphone Legion (aka: not!Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth Hussars), Ice Wizards and fucking MAMMOTHS.
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>>160908786
Sigmar is a worthless cuck that can fuck off.
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What the fuck is with the vlad ring quest on legendary?

Two terrorgheists on him, spamming drain life, and his health doesn't move
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>>160908842
t. Chaos Swine
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>>160908805
Kislev Warmaster had Mammoths?

I know FW made War Mammoths for WoC.
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>>160909013
Da comrade.

Kislev has Mammoths in Warmaster.

Also hoping that Chaos Warriors will get Mammoths (in multiple flavors of usefulness and depending on Chaos God).
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>>160908987
That's fucking it though. Sigmar enables the Chaos Swine
>Archaon is standing in the place most holy to Sigmar
>He asks Sigmar to save him from the fate written by a Daemon Prince, and failing that, to kill him
>Sigmar is powerless to save a truly faithful man from Bel'akor the cucked in his holiest temple
>literally being lesser than Bel'akor

Unless he knew everything that was to happen and actually wanted AoS. Then he's far, far worse and on par with the Chaos Gods for malevolence.

He also just possesses based Karl, who is a better Emperor than Sigmar could ever hope to be.

I'd fucking go on a grail cuck quest for some elf bitch than offer anything to Shitmar.

But in all the settings with gods, Archaon's fedora tipping is well justified with worthless autistic losers like Sigmar masquerading as gods.
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>>160909241
Archaon should've just painted himself green and asked Gork&Mork for help.
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>>160909241
>Unless he knew everything that was to happen and actually wanted AoS.
He really wanted to see Bel'akor get killed by lizardmen dropping rocks on him. Can you blame him?
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>>160908786

If I wanted Barbar: Total War then I would just play Attila
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>>160909114
reminder: Kislev NEVER , mammoths NEVER, warmaster content N E V E R
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>>160866248
It's probably what we're getting.
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>>160866248
>Total War: China
>All factions look the exact same.
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>>160909573
>army size is gonna be literally 1000
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>>160909573
Depends on the time period.
If it's real early then yeah everybody looks the same.
But if it's later time periods then there could be Mongols, Koreans and even European powers.
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>>160909241
yeah, at least the elf bitch offers some buffs to her devoted knights
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I killed Italy.

What do now?
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>>160889830
>>160889960
>>160895305

Can someone explain the whole PONTUS meme. I don't get it.
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>>160910203
Way back when before Rome 2 was out, we were being given factions that could be played. Before we got shit like Selucid, we got fucking Pontus.
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>>160910203
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>>160909573
I am going to be so mad if the next tw is chingchong
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>>160910318
Why is that my dude?
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>>160910348
Because we're already getting skaven next year
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>>160910247
>>160910275

Ah, that explains it.
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>>160910151
Kill everything thats not Italy?
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>>160910151
Now do the same in TW:WH.
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>>160910557
I don't own TWH
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>>160910575
I'm sorry to hear that.
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>>160910640
Why?
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>>160910660
Please stop interrogating me.
You're not a cop are you?
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>>160910709
I am actually a police officer
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>>160910760
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>>160910760
no excuse for not buying whambalams then anon, best battles in the series by far.

AOC is pretty neat too
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>>160910792
>tfw bought AOC hoping for Charly the Man power fantasies
>can't use him in combat because generals in Attila die as soon as somebody sneezes at them
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>>160910823
Its okay. I only care about warhams so I can wipeout all traces of humanity.
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>>160910913
No, actually. Lot of paperwork recently.
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I bet janny is black
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>>160910372
Skaven not like chinese!

Look at picture.
see skaven
see chinese
not at all same.
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>>160910886
keep charles at home while his wifes son leads the armies then anon ;)
I had such a fun danes campaign, my King ended up being ancient and grizzled, nearly 70. He got surrounded and outmanned in some forsaken arabic cultured city and fought off tripple doomstacks after doomstacks while his 3 sons desperately tried to get to him
he died when his eldest son was one turn away, he was the only one left in the army that must have put down 15 stacks turn after turn, So I waited him in the centre of the city and charged him into the enemy, the old bastard singlehandedly took down like 6 guys before those scum firing into their own troops killed him.
I burned the every city belonging to that fucker to the ground. I destroyed every army he had, then in a pass I ambushed him as he was fleeing with the 3 sons of my badass old king Knurl. I renamed the city that my king had died and I renamed the old capital of the enemy king to the folly of his name.
then I abandoned that city and left it razed.

By far the most immsersed I've gotten in a historical tw game.
pic related is that fuck ran into the ground
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>>160867527
>>160870226
This will pretty just be "Warhammer: Realm of the Ogres"
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>>160879757
>26

He looks older than that tbqh
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Should I buy Total Warhammer?
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>>160908786
It would have to be a mod

GW won't allow them to put orcs or humans in the Beastmen minicampaign as playable options because Khazrak won that campaign in the lore

Same reason apparently why Beastmen, Orcs and Bretonnians will be unplayable in the wood elves campaign- but they have two wood elf factions instead of one to try and spice it up
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>>160912005
Do you want to?
What are you looking for?
How much is the asking price to you?

Remember that Black Friday is a couple of days off.
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>>160912085
GW doesn't have the effort to micromanage minute alternate story outcomes in a franchise they've moved away from.

It's 100% on CA for being lazy.
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>>160884724
Well in Warhammer its different because dorfs get grudges on you at random
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>>160909442
OH COME ON.

Maybe as later content after they released the final expansion and DLCs.
>>
I finally decided to play the Attila I bought aeons ago. And I was disappointed. The Charlemagne campaign is my only reason to play it but that's about it. I don't know what particularly fails, I just don't like it all. But the Charlie campaign is good and pure and holy.
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>>160912085
How does such an incompetent company like GW manage to have such an amazing franchise even though they actively try to murder it at every turn

really makes you think
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>>160910886
I honestly prefer that to anime-tier generals from med2 or warham, its ok in warham when its kholek or archaon, but when a regular dude like KF fucks up hundreds on his own, its kinda silly
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>>160912310
It's nothing new, pretty much every time a new edition came out there were die-hards saying GW murdered the franchise. You probably aren't taking into account how much it costs to produce a tabletop game in the UK and the government doesn't give a fuck about businesses over here, look at Cadburies which was driven under by rates.
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lol.
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>>160912550
Nice helmets.

Betting they were in Nippon...
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>>160912550
nothing personnel kid
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>>160912159
CA are some lazy developers, but NEVER understimate GW's retardation about their dead IPs, never
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>>160912550
bunch of jian fucks
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>>160912361
KF has the excuse of having some of the best gear in the Empire, the Silver Seal makes him basically nigh unkilleable, along with usually riding around on Deathclaw, Franz is pretty swole as far as human combatants go.
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>>160912834
I suppose not, but the ability to play both sides of a battle where won canonically wins is something even I cannot believe.
If it represented Toddbringer never losing his eye and threatening sales of their One-Eyed Toddbringer model™ then I could see them doing something. As it is I can't.
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>>160912361
anime generals > boring ass useless generals
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>>160912361

>implying any of the lords in the franchise are regular dudes

HAH
HAHAH
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>>160912550
animesamuraipickelhelm. not compatibility with wrpggayfullplate
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>https://twitter.com/totalwar/status/801395291312291840
>Tune in at 4PM GMT to our livestream for a Dev Q&A with concept art, Wurrzag campaign and maybe some exclusive news

Better fucking be something good. Who cares about Wurrzag when the elves are just around the corner?
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>>160912085
I wonder how hard would it be to mod that.
I mean Dwarfs, Greenskins, Beastmen and Norsca can just use the same units as in vanilla with a few units removed that didn't exist during the time of Sigmar.
I don't know if Nagash's army would look more like Vamp counts or Tomb Kangz.
Sigmar and the rest of the humans would need new rosters. I wonder if it'd be hard to port Atilla into WH.
Also I wonder if there's enough information of Estalia, Bretonnia, Tilea and the Border Princes during that time period.
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>>160913297
>Got plans at 4pm GMT

Well shit.
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So waystalkers can pin a unit in place and make them take more damage from missiles without costing any winds of magic

How can light wizards even compete?
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>>160912085
>GW won't allow them to put orcs or humans in the Beastmen minicampaign as playable options because Khazrak won that campaign in the lore

Source for this? They let you play as everyone else in the grand campaign when that had a clear winner.
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>>160913456
Wouldn't have too much KANGZ influence, it'd probably need a ton more animations though. He's kinda undeath in its entirety. He raised EVERYTHING, whereas KANGZ are a group who happen to be undead, and the vampires happen to only really fight humans
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>>160913297
variant editor pls
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>>160913520

Light wizards can pin more than one unit?
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>Extra starting units: Goblin Archers
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>>160913602
Thanks CA...
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>>160912361
Empire generals are pretty over the top, there's no way they could kill a warboss on a Wyvern or Mannfred on a zombie dragon in TT. Havign said that Skaven will really piss you off, 5'5" ratmen assassins soloing High Elf Kings and chaos champions is enshrined in canon.
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>>160913643
I thought it'd have made the Empire a lot more thematic and interesting if they didn't have a superhero they could lean on. I have no problem with Grimgor or Kholek or even Thorgrim cutting through hordes of enemies, but Karl Franz should mostly give morale buffs and command abilities.
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>>160913536
End Times is irrelevant in the context of Total Warhammer
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>>160913742

Should've given the Empire generals a bodyguard, like other TW games.
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>>160913886
Maybe a couple of elite guards instead of 20+ people
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>>160913886
Nah maneuverability of units is too weird when dealing with specific characters like Lords. Could give them permanently attached heroes as bodyguard units or something that don't take up unit slots maybe.

I don't really mind it as it is.
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>>160913886
>>160913918
You know with the Generals and Agents having a mount specific option in their stat screens you'd think it would be easy enough to have a body guard option too.

Like you start off with none and then either earn them with levels or by investing into a skill chain.
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>>160913816
Yes, considering you prevent it.

How's that for canon. It's obvious GW don't care about multiple playable factions if it lets them go against canon.

So where's that source I asked for?
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>>160914335

>Yes, considering you prevent it.

The Chaos invasion in this game is not The End Times, it's a bastardized amalgam of The Storm of Chaos and original content
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>>160914030
>Could give them permanently attached heroes as bodyguard units or something that don't take up unit slots maybe.


Good idea for a mod
Someone get on it
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>>160914371
Exactly, the storm of chaos isn't canon either reinforcing the fact that canon doesn't matter in TWWH. Are you even disputing what i've said?

So yeah, that source.
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>>160913816
well we don't know if they will want to borrow some of the End Times assets which I expect they have permissions for seeing as it is basically 8th. They might as well throw in Nagash for example, and some of the ET models are the most updated for some heroes like Thanquol and Arkhan.
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>>160914435
>>160914335
You're responding to different people and getting hugely asshurt in the process
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>>160914483
>hey man I'm not that guy, don't argue man
>hurr hurr you mad though?

kys
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So Empire and Medieval are the only TW games that run on my current toaster, what are the best (performance-friendly) mods for each?
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>>160914483
>I'll tell him he's mad
>I still haven't posted a source.
>I keep trying to dispute him but keep agreeing.

I don't see what's to be mad about bro ;)
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>>160914593
Third Age for Medieval probably with Divide and Conquer submod. Darth is ok for Empire but don't expect much. Also unlocking America from 1800 is pretty fun.
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>>160913886
fun fact, check the first TWW gameplay (battle at blackfire pass), Grimgor has his own Immortulz bodyguards
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>Tune in at 4PM GMT to our Twitch stream: www twitch tv/totalwarofficial
>Featuring: Joey hosting a dev Q&A, with concept art and more, focusing on the Wood Elves.
>See also: James continuing his Wurrzag campaign.
>And maybe: some exclusive news...
>Tune in to find out!

Are they going to tell us the free content I wonder? Is Morghur and the beastmen unit supplemental going to be confirmed? :O
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>>160914757
You sure he wasn't just scripted/controlled to run next to a unit of black orcs with his banner?
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>>160914972
>:O

Fuck off.
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>>160914972
>4PM GMT
>4am my time

fug :D
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>>160915075
That was meant to be a smiley. Fuck you anon.
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>>160914986
I just checked it and he's in the unit just like generals are in their units in the historical ones.
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>>160915168
Smileys are pure cancer.
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Much
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>>160915168
>That was meant to be a smiley.

I know, that's why you need to fuck off.
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>>160915309
>Hello GamingOnLinux&Reddit
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>>160912550
>>160912550
Is there a character that could even possibly EVEN TOUCH Chosen Swordmasters (early)? Let alone defeat him. And I’m not talking about Edo Tensei Chosen Swordmasters(Early). I’m not talking about Gedou Rinne Tensei Chosen Swordmasters(Early) either. Hell, I’m not even talking about Juubi Jinchuuriki Gedou Rinne Tensei Chosen Swordmasters(Early) with the Eternal Mangekyou Sharingan and Rinnegan doujutsus (with the rikodou abilities and being capable of both Amateratsu and Tsukuyomi genjutsu), equipped with his Gunbai, a perfect Susano’o, control of the juubi and Gedou Mazou, with Hashirama Senju’s DNA implanted in him so he has mokuton kekkei genkai and can perform yin yang release ninjutsu while being an expert in kenjutsu and taijutsu.
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>>160862483
aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa SEBENYA
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>>160915561
>No Hello /twg/.
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>>160916829
What's /twg/?

Did you, perhaps, mean TWC?
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>>160917152
who's the cute lesbian on the right?
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>>160916396
h-he's fast!
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>>160915141
New Zealand is imba
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Who /craving amber/ here?
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>>160917968
I'm craving Athel Toralien, Sith Rionnasc, Kor Vanaeth, Athel Maraya, Athel Numiel, Tor Alessi thank you
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>>160919208
You lost the right to those colonies when you got your collective shit slapped by a bunch of angry cave-dwelling midgets.
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Karak Norn DLC when?
>Victory conditions:
>Raze every main faction capital
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>>160919425

>Perfidious Norn
>Any kind of problem

They lose to Skarsnik every single campaign unless you step in early
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>>160919425
>Long victory condition:
>Have declared war on every faction at least once
>Have broken an alliance with 10 different factions.
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>>160919208
>>
Playing TWW for the first time, only have about an hour into it. What are some things I should know going in?
Like on my city that I have, what are the first improvements/upgrades I should make? And should I buy a bunch of the starter troops or hold off and wait till I can get upgraded versions?

Thanks for the help lads.
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>>160919651

What race are you playing?
>>
Exclusive news CONFIRMED for FLC announcement

>inb4 Lore of Shadow,Lore of Life,Jade Wizard,Grey Wizard as part of Update 5
>inb4 Morghur LL with 3 new units downloadable as free DLC similar to Wurrzag.
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>>160919591
>Karak Norn
>Karak Hirn
>Karak Izor

Weren't those built after the War of Vengeance?
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>>160919651
fortify villages until they get walls or you will regret it.
make sure at least one building is the growth bulding.
pay attention to troop buildings, some of them only go to level 3 meaning you don't build them in your capital cities.

make sure to build agents.
as for turtling vs non turtling whatevers comfier anon, I swear by aggression but that's just me
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>>160919396
We didn't get our shit slapped, we decided to leave the continent when we saw the dwarfs weren't going to stop hitting themselves on our walls.
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Human minor races (states, Kis, Burg & realms) megapack with lords and flavour units when?

Also what if all the memeposters are really just Gook, too afraid to dump Osprey or use a trip, forever traumatised, only able to dump whatever the fuck this crap is. I'm high and it cracks me up but wtf is this garbage
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>>160913643
Implying there is a single wh leader that could survive an encounter with Deathmaster Snikch after a surprise attack. They don't call his weapons the weeping blades for nothing.
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>>160919651
What faction you're playing changes our answers a lot. What difficulty you're on also matters a bit.

Get basic troops, the way having additional armies works is that having one massive army is cheaper than the same amount of units split across two armies. You'll need multiple armies for multiple fronts but in general you should beef up what you have quickly. It doesn't take the AI long to build large stacks of basic units themselves.

crossbows are better than handguns(your two options if you're playing as empire or dwarves) unless you're fighting dwarves or chaos

ranged cavalry are almost completely worthless
direct combat lords are much better than magic lords

magic is mediocre, unless something is a buff it doesn't do much,
for the spells that are good, while you may be tempted to not overcast feeling it's safer and you can cast more, overcasting is worth far more than you think.
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>>160919825
Glorious anon.
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>>160919783
Tell that to Caledor II. His crown sure makes for a nice paper-weight.

Also, the elves were actually gathering up for a suicidal attack on Karaz-a-Karak after they lost the war to the Dwarfs.
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>>160919825
Took you long enough m8.
good work
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>>160919783
>Elf """""walls"""""
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>>160919825
Remember to add The Black Chasm in Bretonnia.
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>>160920018
>Also, the elves were actually gathering up for a suicidal attack on Karaz-a-Karak
Nonsense, what made it suicidal was that we'd never be able to find our way back out of the rat hole.
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>>160920018
>>160919783

Tryhard elves embarrassing themselves in pissing contests with the premier tryhard race is just tiresome. When will Asur set aside their burdens and embrace true comfort?
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>>160919718

Most definitely not the latter. Two lores and two wizards is pretty good though.
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I want to be dominated by a best elf!
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>>160920275
You took part just as any other Asur, the fact you decided to squat in a forest afterwards is a different matter entirely
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>>160919908
>magic is mediocre, unless something is a buff it doesn't do much,
the buffs are pretty massive though
>>
In the new DLC what happens if other factions try to conquer the Wood elf core provinces? Will they just be normal provinces, or are they race locked like Norsca?
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>>160920365
The Asur government imposed hard work and tryhard behavior on its people due to miserable foreign policy. The Asrai are the descendants of those who were smart enough to tune in, drop out, and seek the pure land of 2D
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>make a cheat mod
>give all of my forces 1000% campaign movement bonus
>go all the way from Altdorf to Mannfreds starting stack, kill him
>enough movement to still escape sylvanian attrition

This is very lore friendly.
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>>160920549
Only for chaos or Grimgor. Not the Orks, just Grimgor by himself.
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>>160920497
Presumably they can be attacked but only razed/sacked
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>>160920519
I'm sorry but you colonists were self governed for the most part, you were the ones who wanted to push the dwarfs shit in the most during the war. Now please stop quoting my numbers your posts are leaving an awful stench
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>>160920626
I know it would make no sense to raze the forest as Brets, but as Dorfs/Empire would it make sense in universe to do so?

Also, will the Wood Elves get the "shield of civilization" modifier? Kind of important as to whether to spare them.


I could never justify invade bretonnia after the chaos invasion, because they were always total bros who saved multiple stacks and cities with their trebuchet/grail knight stacks
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So has anyone actually tried asking CA if they'll do anything about buffing the original LL's or are we just going to sit here and hope they do it
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>>160920746
>Wood Elves
>shield of civilization
The entire civilization is their enemy.
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>>160920843
If only for Irony's sake, I'll send a gelt + 3 tank + 16 handgunner stack to burn Athel Loren then.
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>>160920917
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Beda3kFNjo
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>>160920791

It was the top asked question on an AMA they did a few weeks ago. The answer was basically:
>we'd like to if we can, but we basically have no additional time to spare with current projects for the foreseeable future

So the tl;dr is no.
>>
Guys I am ahving trouble with Attila Gradn Camapign and planning out province buildings.
Do you guys have any tips on what to look out for or a planned out province building scheme. I am playing as Langobards and this is my first Total War game.
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>>160920949
Born to feel.

Am I the only one who completely stops using all non-greatsword empire melee inf after midgame, and switches to stacks with mostly crossbows/handgunners supported by arty and cavalry?
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>>160912550
Link mod
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>>160921039

fug

Azhag will forever be king of gobbo archers
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>>160919908
>>160919690
>>160919752

Thanks for the help!
I'm playing the necromancer Gandalf looking guy, trying to build an army of spooks.
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>>160921057
>First total war game
Not a good idea to start with attila. Unless you're playing a desert tribe at the ass end of the world (Garaminthians, Himyar, etc), you'll need to master a lot of elements quickly.

Start with shogun 2 instead.

If you must stick with attila, focus on keeping public order, squalor, and food positive. Food is the most important, then public order, then squalor.
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>>160921206
Ok, got it. I read that it is the hardest but I do like getting into a hard game, like being thrown into the cold water. I am enjoying it a lot so far. Never played a game where you had so many units on the battle. It is amazing.
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>>160921194
Ah alright, he's probably the second worst lord in the game familia. Just so you know.
Overcharge invocation of nehek is the best thing he has, abuse it as best you can(you can get it with others easily enough which is why he's mediocre).

abandon zombies asap. Skelingtons are only slightly more expensive, better in a fight and most importantly: Faster
As I said earlier in this thread, dire wolves are superb for flanking early on when there are only basic units. They'll probably die themselves but they can take out 200+ men while doing so.

Focus on spending as much corruption as you can as quickly as you can.
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>>160920791

How to Fix Gelt, by Anon
>give him all of his Lore of Metal spells from the start
>special trait 0% chance to miscast
>personal combat tree gets complete rejigger, buffs to his spell damage, cast distance, winds of magic reserves, etc
>army tree given a couple new skills, boost damage, upkeep, etc for wizards in his army
>support tree gets similar treatment, boosts wizard recruitment rank in local province, cost, etc
>upper most tree, one with the mounts, are global buffs, spell cost reduction for all wizards, research rate increase, etc

Campaign Effects
>magical attacks for all units in gelts army
>+6 rank (factionwide) for all recruited battle wizards
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>>160863161
Orion? More sounds like Onion. Ha-ha, get it?
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>>160921449
and make him like... 3 times bigger, and rename him to Bigthasar Gelt
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>>160921486
Not really
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>>160921381
Something very important to remember in attila: Unless you're skilled, or have a big empire, when the huns show up you should run away. Dismantle your buildings, abandon your provinces, and just march/sail your armies elsewhere. Hell, even before they show up, you should consider running the fuck away if you're a barbarian or desert faction like the langobards.

Good places to flee to:
North Africa
Britain
Southern Iberia
Egypt

Also, rule of thumb is that its easy to beat up the Western Romans, and only slightly harder to beat up the Eastern Romans, but the Empire always strikes back.
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>>160921449
None of that will really matter if magic at its core is shit tho
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>>160921486
Wait, what?
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>>160902936
> I'm like 40 turns in with Vladimir

пpивeт кoмпaньoн!
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>>160921449
Gelt is already a god though. I think you just aren't using him properly.

A lot of noobs are upset you can just right click the enemy lord with him like you can with franz.
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>>160921792

Factually incorrect
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>>160921449
He doesn't need all his spells, he just needs his fucking unicorn.
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Should I good goy elves dlc?
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>>160921989

What the fuck are you talking about?
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>>160922103
wait for gameplay, atleast
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>>160912550
>chosen swordmasters (early)
>axe infantry
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>>160922163
this

you get the same discount from getting it until release day
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>>160922134
Wait....

fuck. Pegasus I mean.
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This mission is pretty fucking brutal with the set units the game gives you on legendary.
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>>160921618
Why is magic so shit?

Why haven't they patched it so offensive spells aren't largely garbage?
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>>160922437
because muh mp balance
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>>160921167

pour one out 4 ur hommies
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>>160922492
might as well add Volkmar to that
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>>160922437
Quite a lot of the problems with the offensive spells are due to hit detection, since spells that lift troops into the air don't damage them whilst they're in the air and so high mass units take a lot more damage from things like wind of death. Bombardment spells also have broken hit detection.
Some buffs could also use tweaking to make them more interesting, too.
>>
>>160921167
>>160921039
>we have no time
How hard could it even be to replace the Gobbo archers with something else in Azhag's army?
>>
Any decent VC mods?
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>>160922674

At least 5 minutes of an interns time, which already cuts too much into CA's break time
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>>160922492
Press F to pay respects.

F
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>>160922570
Volkmar is decent enough

Boris may need a spot there desu
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>>160922736

Mousillon unlocker + Mousillanon's model/skin overhaul
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>>160922809
>Boris
Nah man. Judging by Wurzag, Skarsnik and Belegar he should be fine once CA makes him a LL.
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>>160922914

>when

HAHAHA
>>
WHOA

Joey is looking good, she lost weight?
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>>160922783
Does anybody have the original picture with Neil Degrasse Tyson and some atheist quote super imposed over a S2 battle.
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>>160923027
I only got this
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>>160923154
Man, wish I had saved the original pic but it was posted on /twg/ before even Rome 2 was out so no way I'll find that thread again.
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>>160922492

kek
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>>160922862
Shit is crashing my game
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>grace looking fine as fuck

oh god my dick
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>>160923027
Got a few pics like it but not that pic
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>>160923469
That's Joey BOI
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>>160923469
>Grace
That's not Grace

nice digits tho
>>
>plow into the great oak

I KNOW WHAT I WANT TO PLOW INTO
>>
Stop sexually harassing Grace.
>>
no seasons confirmed
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>>160862483
Joey has lost weight. She looks good.
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>Seasons not coming back
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>>160923694

"No"
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>>160923776
Why would they? Time doesn't pass.
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>He is a big guy
JOEY = CIA
>>
It's kind of crazy how good Bretonnia's peasant bowmen can be.
>>
giev link
>>
>Them bigass tits on the Spellsingers.
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>>160924496
www.google.com
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>>160924496
www DOT twitch DOT tv/totalwarofficial
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>>160924548
HOT HOT HOT
*SSCHHHLUURRPPP*
SO HORNERY

>unicorns
neat
>>
han any Understander of Strategy asked any questions in the stream?
Do we have any? I can't think of one right now
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>>160924585
Thanks, qt.
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Wew lads!

Vampire chan has been dethroned.
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>>160924585
why do you put the (dot) in instead of just posting the link? is it forbidden?
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>>160924638
>Vampire chan has been dethroned
Not even close.
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>>160924706
Trying to just post the link flags it as spam so it won't post.
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>>160924706
You can get banned from 4chan if you use too many (dots), you can only post 10-20 before the mods take action
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>>160924638
rip vamp tits
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>>160924638
Wood Elfs indeed.
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>>160924706
can't talk about it
>>
THAT
FUCKING
MICROPHONE
>>
THEY AREN'T ANSWERING THE MORGHUR LL QUESTION "JUST YET"

ITS HAPPENING. DATAMINE 100% ACCURATE.
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>>160924638
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>no one can take athel lloren

CA YOU FUCKING PUNK ASS BITCHES
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>you can raze everything in the forest
YES
YES
YES
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>playing as Empire
>chaos finally invades
>wrecks my shit, sends me back to turn 30ish, only Altdorf remains
>have a Witch Hunter with maxed out Assassinate and prevention of Chaos+Vamp corruption
>spend 10 turns Assassinating the leader of Ghrost's army at Kemperbad and gaining sick levels
>Archaon himself arrives
>immediately Assassinated with 72% chance of success
Why is this fucking hero so good, holy shit
>>
>can't own Athel Loren with other factions
I'm ok with this.
Would any faction actually be able to live there in lore? Maybe Beastmen?
>>
>>160919825
Minor notes:

>Lahmia is a ruin
>The lore is somewhat ambiguous about this, but Ka-Sabar is generally written as an Arabian city. Not Tomb Kings.
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>>160924830
They said announcement at the end of stream.
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>>160923556
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>>160924912
Yes we know but someone said "Just answer. Is Morghur a Beastmen LL?!?!" and she said "oooo not yet. Can't answer just yet".
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>>160924854
so? I just wanna burn it as Chaos, Dorfs and Empire
>>
>>160924854
We said in this thread it would be that way. Who did you want to occupy it with?
>>
I swear this Twitch chat is legit retarded.

All the good questions are being drowned out by all the retards asking meme questions, stuff they obviously can't answer yet, or stuff that is already widely known information.
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FEMALE GLADE LORDS!!!!
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>>160924830
CONFIRMED
>>
>>160925092
>Twitch chat is legit retarded
More news at 11.
>>
>Forrest Dragon mounts
YES!
>>
>All those retarded questions.
>>
MORGHUL FUCKING CONFIRMED
>>
kitaaaaa
>>
I bet anything that he won't use his mutated hand in combat
>>
Datamine correct again.

Morghur LL confirmed.
>>
Morghul can turn enemy units into chaos spawn

WEW LAD>
>>
MORGHUR LL FOR GRAND CAMPAIGN CONFIRMED.

>>160925286
In the gameplay video he awkwardly slaps his opponent with it.
>>
>>160924747
>Not even close
delicious corpse hag tears
>>
>He can convert dead enemies into Chaos Spawn

BASED
>>
HARPIES
>>
HARPIESSSSS
>>
HARPYS!!!!
>>
Harpies confirmed, time for something slightly better than dire bats.
>>
>HARPIES CONFIRMED


/TWG/ APOLOGIZE RIGHT NOW
>>
HERPES
>>
HARPIES
>>
HARPIES FUCKIN CONFIRMED
>>
MORGHUR CONFIRMED

HARPIES CONFIRMED

MEMES N SHEEEEEEEEEEEEEIT
>>
DATAMINE IS 100% CORRECT AGAIN

MORGUR LL AND HARPIES

HARPIES!!!!


>Beastmen supplemental

CONFIRMED

WOOOO

TIME TO BUY BEASTMEN.
>>
HARPIES FCUKKKK

This update is gonna be huge.
>>
Rank best to worst Total War games from top to bottom:

> Any Total war with radous mod
> Any Total war without radious mod
> Empire Total War
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HARPIES
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Beastmen waifus
>>
Beastmen?
More like Best-men.
>>
2bad harpies won't be usable in Multiplayer since they're the only flying unit and I doubt they can take down enemy flying lords or flying goon squads
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HARPIES NEW UNIT

FUCK I WANTED JABERSLYTHE
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Beastmen are still the worst faction. Prove me wrong, pro tip you can't
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APOLOGIZE
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>>160925479

>Multiplayer
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>mfw bestman update
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>>160925541
>being a singleplayer pleb
coward
>>
>>160925479
Landing option and flying Gorebull when?
>>
Morghur starts in Nordland, empire babbies btfo. Enjoy having your unwalled cities razed.
>>
>>160925575
>>160925541
>not playing whatever you find interesting
Plebs, the lot of you
>>
>>160925421
No fucking shit

>Update 5
>Wood Elves
>Lore of Life
>Lore of Shadow
>Harpies
>Morghur LL
>>
>Morghur starts in fucking nordland

This is gonna be fun
>>
>>HARPIES CONFIRMED
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>>160925484
This was quite obviously you
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>Morghul starts in Nordland
>Khazrak starts in Estalia
>>
BUT I DONT WANNA PLAY AS HERPES!
Where's my Jabber!
>>
>>160925607
>Morghur in Nordland
>Kazhrak in Estalia
Why not swap their positions?
>>
>>160925582
>Landing option
can't believe they still haven't put this in yet. it's so simple to solve the flying porblem in multiplayer

>>160925582
>flying Gorebull
how about flying Kemmler and flying crowfather or whatever the other Beastmens LL name is

>>160925624
but I do...ofcourse I play campaign aswell
>>
>>160925702
I think the reason they add harpies and not something else is because other factions can use harpies as well
>>
>HARPIES

YEEEEEEEEES

JABBERMEMES AND GHORGONSHITTERS BLOWN OUT

THE ONLY UNIT WORTH LEFT ON THE BEASTMAN ROSTER WORTH CARING ABOUT IS IN BABY
>>
Lord of shadows vamps woo
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>Harpies
>but no Ghorgon
>>
>Darren
HAHA TIME FOR LEAKS
>>
>Another VC update

jesus fucking christ stop already these motherfuckers get an update every fucking time
>>
EMPIRE BTFO

LORE OF SHADOW HERO CONFIRMED FOR VAMPIRES
>>
>>160925645
kek. I love /twg/ posting in CA's chat. Always makes me laugh when I see it
>>
>>160925825
Will he deliver?
>>
LOL AT THAT GROAN AT DARREN

I'M CRYING.

Dogbert is here lads. Time for top banter.
>>
>>160925719
Flying Kemmler would be sweet.
>Even Nagash had limits
>>
>>160925762
I'm just memeing
>>
>>160925795
>Lord of shadows
wtf I was under the impression there were only 9lores. But every update a new one I never heard of keeps coming out.
Warhammer fags ffs how many lores are there?
>>
>>160925607
>implying a beastman faction will survive past turn 10 and reach reikland
>>
Lord or hero with lore of shadows for vamps
Empire Grey wizard
Morghul
Harpies
Wood Elves
Head 2 head mini campaign.
Unicorns


Anything i forgot?
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>>160925987
Shadow Dancers confirmed(despite not being on welf steam page)
Lore of Shadow
Lore of Life
>>
>refuse to say anything about RoR for DLC factions

Ruh roh
>>
>>160925940
there's 8 winds of magic, each of them has it's own school

outside those, there's the lores of Vampires, Waaaghs and Wild
>>
>>160925940

There are 8 BASIC lores, the 8 Winds of Magic

Then there are High and Dark magic, which use all the of winds bound together in different ways, then there are a whole bunch of race specific lores.

The basic lores are: Fire, Heavens, Beasts, Metal, Shadow, Death, Light and Life.
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Is there any point in watching the stream now? Or is it just a let's play but with this guy?

>>160925831
>these motherfuckers get an update every fucking time
no bully
>>
>>160926042
I wonder if they will give Vlad lore of Shadows, and add lore of life to Empire.
>>
>>160925987

>Head 2 Head minicampaign

what does that mean?
>>
>>160926078
>>160926102
ok I see so there are a lot more than I first thought. thanks guys
>>
>>160926042

Lore of Life and Shadow were already on the Steam page, the description of Spellsingers mentioned them.
>>
>>160926102
what the fuck is the difference anyway.

Magics are largely the same, direct buffs, aoe debuffs, shitty offensive spells.

Yeah, sure, foot of gork has a cool animation but it's a shit spell.

There could be 20 schools of magic, wouldn't make it any less worthless.
>>
>>160926042
>Shadow Dancers confirmed(despite not being on welf steam page)

I'm pretty sure they aren't. He was just commenting on the Wardancers way of fighting and mentioned the shadow dancing. He didn't actually say Shadow dancers were in or not.
>>
>>160926187
It means that the mini campaign can be played either co-op or you fight against each other to take control of the Oak of ages.
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>>160926115
Vlad could only use Vampire lore in tabletop.

Could mean Zacharias is possible after all.
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>>160926223

>foot of gork is a shit spell

An Overcast can wipe out 85% of a unit of Blood Knights or any other kind of high-value heavy cav.

Foot of Gork is fucking great.
>>
>>160926223
The difference was pretty clear on Tabletop where Magic made a huge difference. In game not so much.

But apparently they have been looking into giving magic an overhaul, so we might see that in the Old World update.

And Foot of Gork is a pretty great spell, so I'm guessing you just suck at using it.
>>
DARREN NO
COME BACK
I NEED MY LEAKS REEEEEEEE
>>
>>160925821

It's because of the giant, Ghorgon would fill a very similar role, maybe a little more squishy but faster
>>
>>160926354
What if he fights a Beastmen army and it happens to have a Ghorgon in it or something?

There's always a chance man.
>>
>>160926325
If magic were fixed then all the shitty mage lords wouldn't need any more of a buff. That'd be enough.
>>
>>160925821

Ghorgon was by far the least worthwhile of the remaining Beastmemes units.

It's just a faster Giant with 4 arms.

Harpies>>Jabbers>>>>>>Ghorgon
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>>160926303
>Foot of Gork
>Decimates heavy cavalry
>Does jackshit to infantry
A less retarded interaction with mass is needed
>>
>>160926451

You honestly think that Kemmler is equal to Vlad or Mannfred?

Magic lords needs more than magic fixed. They need actually good skills, like Ghorst.
>>
>>160926551
Just give Kemmler the ability to mass summon skeletons and zombies.

Shorter cool down, and cheaper mana cost with a longer cast range.

That would be enough to change his play style, and actually make him feel like the master necromancer he is supposed to be.
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>>160925637
>Manticore as free dlc unit
>Harpies as free dlc unit

Who is next?
>>
>Didn't know Orcs could tunnel from one side of the river to the other


Christ, he's bad
>>
>>160926483
I'd say role wise it is redundant, but in terms of visual presence I would like it just for variety.

I'm kind of sick by giants, and just want to see more huge units killing things and having unique animations and shit.

>>160926451
>>160926551
>They need actually good skills, like Ghorst
This.

Like with Kemmler for being the supposed master of the undead, his skills don't really show it. Like give him some unique abilities.

Since Morghur can convert enemy units into Chaos Spawn, do something like that for Kemmler. Increase his unit limit, and let him turn dead enemy units into some skeletons or some shit. Anything that makes him seem more impressive than the generic Necromancers.
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>>160926768
All skeletal units gain regeneration when in Kemmlers army.

Mass resurrections.
>>
No Darren means no Leaks.

No D&D combo means no banter and Darren bullying.
NOOOOOOO
>>
>>160926705
>>160926768
ideally they simply fix both of those

i just hope they nerf brettonia next patch fuck legendoftotalwars cancer peasant build
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>>160926914
O G R E S
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>>160926768

GIVE KEMMLER HIS FLYING CLOAK AND 1 FREE KRELL
>>
>>160926998

I can't wait for Bretons to get Lore of Life and become ultra-mega metastasized cancer SSJ3
>>
>>160927008
JAPANESE GOBLINS
>>
>>160926998
They intentionally made the Bretonnian units over perform since they didn't have their full roster. Not to mention that bug with the army wide buffing ability.

I'm sure they will be balanced out once the Old World Edition hits.

>>160927036
I feel like giving him Krell is too easy of a solution for CA. I mean obviously he still needs him, but I feel like they need to make Kemmler himself more unique and just adding Krell would be an easy way out in a way.

And yeah, Kemmler needs to fly, with the Spellslingers in there is now no excuse for that not to happen. Just give him a new quest battle or something, and let him fly once he obtains that item.
>>
>>160927176
Why are monsters always sexy in Japan?
>>
So why did they say the Sisters of Twilight was too unfeasible to put in? Like I would get it if they were just not that much of a priority LL wise like Orion or Durthu, but what would have made them hard to implement?

Cause Skarsnik and Gobbla were a two model Legendary Lord, so I don't see why the sisters would have been that hard.
>>
>>160926998
>>160927228

>bretonnia
>overperform

What.

>>160927276

Those are porn monsters.

Actual japanese mythology is fucked up.
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Beastmen didn't get 8th edition so this is the "latest" 7th edition.
>>
"no DLC for DLC" fags got BTFO
>>
>>160927473
NO PAID DLC.

They even said they would not charge for additional content, but may revise DLC and add free content later.
>>
>>160927332
Are you joking anon? Bretonnian units do far, far better than they are supposed to. The fact that their peasants can survive that long and have great leadership despite being fucking peasants should have been a clue to that.

>>160927473
The line was "no paid DLC for paid DLC" retard.

And were you under a rock when Chaos got new FLC units or something?
>>
>>160927391
Can't wait to see Bretonnian peasants being picked up and torn apart by them
>>160927473
What did I miss?
Did they say something?
>>
All right, everyone say sorry to CA now.
CA, I'm sorry
>>
>>160927391
>S3 T3
Why even bother, they cant even kill warmachines
Useless
>>
What did I miss from the stream?
>>
>>160925718
>>160925607
Why not the other way around?
>>
>>160924638
Not enough to dethrone the Vampire in terms of hips.

But let us wait for Valkia. As I remember, she has some daemonic hips.

>>160925441
>>160925484
Wow. So the Beastmen Harpies DO differ from Dark Elf ones.

Wondering if they are used for reproduction since females are in very high demand among Beastmen.

>>160925484
Cool off. Jabberslythe will be included sooner or later.

When CA said they are going for everything, then they are going for everything.
>>
>>160927571

I really don't see how they outperform. Their leaderships is nothing special and I don't find them to be anywhere nearly as powerful as people make them out to be.
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>>160927332

>>bretonnia
>>overperform
>What.

Bretonnia has the most cost-effective infantry in the game by a far margin, and in multiplayer where cost-efficiency is everything that makes them top dog.
>>
>>160927607

They still need to:

-Fix magic
-Give most LLs actually UNIQUE shit that makes them worthy of being called LL, also change the animations of important LLs like Archaon and Vlad, them fighting with empire swordsmen animations is unacceptable
-Fix sieges

Then I will be satisfied with Warhammer TW as a product
>>
>>160927607
I'm not going to say sorry. I still think it is kind of ridiculous the units for the Beastmen weren't included at the start, even if they have somewhat justifiable reasons for it. Not to mention the datamine showed that they planned it that way from the beginning.

Instead I will say good job CA! Because while I do have problems with how they did things, (namely with the vanilla) each DLC that has come out has shown clear improvements with each new one.

We don't have any reason to apologize, but we sure as hell have a good one to congratulate them on continuing not to fuck up.
>>
>>160927332

Bretonnia is second strongest faction

It goes like this:

Vampire Counts
Bretonnia
Empire
Greenskins
Dwarfs
Beastmen
Warriors of Chaos
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>>160927680
Cheap infantry that has anti large, charge defense and armor piercing and good leadership.

Their infantry will beat every other infantry of same price range, cav are useless and their archers are cheap and will beat every archer unit in the game since they can focus fire at cheap cost.
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>>160927391
>ywn be carried of to a harpys nest and be """raped"""" by them
>>
>>160927881
I think Empire is stronger than VC.

Net of amantok alone can tare apart lots of builds.

They can use a fear build to take out Brettonia, and match their infantry.
>>
>>160927657
Lore, Khazrak sends his time squatting around the Drakwald (close to Nordland) while Morghur shits around Athel Loren (very close to Estalia)
>>
>>160927956
Torn to shreds, anon.

You'll be eaten alive.
>>
>>160927881
Empire is the strongest. at least stronger than vamps
>>
>>160927956
>>160928020
This is true. They won't even tease your dick like a siren, they'll just rip you apart.
>>
>>160927801
>Not to mention the datamine showed that they planned it that way from the beginning.

This isn't really a damning thing, a studio their size would be pretty well planned content wise, they'd no the expectations and requirements for tasks long before the actual work begun.
>>
>>160927391
>>160928124
>there to serve as a plaything for the creatures until such time as they should grow bored or hungry
I thought that meant sex first then torn to shreds
>>
>>160927881
Shouldn't it be

Empire
Vamps
Bretonnia
Greenskins
Dwarfs
Chaos
Beastmen

?
>>
>>160927903
I agree that the infantry is over performing. but in the table top while being cheap, bret infantry were actually pretty well equiped for their cost. Their leadership is shit, but was always modified by any nearby knight, not just the lord.

Also peasant longbowmen were some of the best archers in the game. Having standard balistic skill but a bunch of bonuses (defensive stakes, cheap flaming attacks) and being dirt cheap compared to most other races comparable ranged units.The trebuchet was also very cost effective for its ability being one of the strongest stone throwers.
>>
>>160927881
Top Tier (Not in order)

Vamps
Empire
Bret
Orcs

Not top tier

Chaos
Dwarf
Beast
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>>160926296
>Zacharias is added in some free DLC
>Kemmler is made even more obsolete

You know what? I really think someone hates the poor Necromancer Lord.

And don't get me started with what happens when they present Elsphet von Draken and make Gelt obsolete.

And for good reason, since she:
>Has Lore of Death and Loremaster of Death
>Has a fancy scythe and hourglass that makes her more of a efficient Magistrix of the Amethyst Order
>Has Darkwalker, which means she's harder to hit and is immune to Psychology
>Has a fucking Carmine Dragon that is as powerful as a High Elf one, but has a breath weapon that hits like a cannon and never misfires

Poor Geltmember. He needs to go with Heinrich and establish a Club of Obsolete Characters.
>>
>>160928236
Have you ever seen a cat play with a dying mouse or bird?
>>
>>160928460

Nah, it's more like:

Top tier:
Vamps
Empire
Brets

Middle tier:
Orcs
Dwarfs (With ethereal Heroes)

Bottom Tier:
Chaos
Dwarf (No Ethereal heroes)
Beasts

This is also in no particular order
>>
>>160928380
The problem is that in online there is nothing that can actually counter the build that people use.

They are a bit to strong in the sense that there is nothing to think about, just box with spears and shoot everything to death with bows.

Bret flying goon squad is cheap and effective, and the only challenge the build has is a stronger enemy flying goon squad. However since Bret army is so cheap it does not matter if they lose in the air, because the enemy army will have to spend more money on their flying units in comparison, so their infantry will not be enough to beat Bret infantry.
>>
>>160928604
If we can beef up Azhag's melee ability and give Kemmler his Krell, what could we do to make Gelt better?
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>>160928758
Fix lore of metal and make his spells doubly effective
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>>160928758

Kemmler needs to have his unique shit he had in the tabletop, and they need to REWORK lore of metal, every lore is somewhat different from tabletop but lore of metal might aswell be a new one, it makes no fucking sense.
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>everyone ranking Beastmemes in the bottom tier
>I win every multi game I play with them

Really stimulates my consideration
>>
>>160928758
He's already a big guy
>>
>>160928713
DLC upped the GS, they have so much variety now and the Goblin warboss is one the most cost effective lords you can get.

Lots of cheap AP units (squigs and nasty skulkers)
Lots of Anti-large potential
Amazing artillery
Black orcs
decent magic
Good monsters
Diverse build potential

Much like the Empire the GS can bring almost any build to deal with another faction.
>>
>>160928952
All factions are relatively closely balanced, they can all be used effectively.

Beastmen are just easier to counter since you know they are going to bring light armor troops and lots of large, so just use spears and bows.
>>
>>160928952

They're definitely above Chaos and pre-King&Warlord Dwarfs, but they're still below everyone else.

Most people on Multiplayere are also completely terrible.
>>
>>160928758
Overall give him better magic focus, Loremaster of Metal,greatly reduced probability of mistcast, magic resistance for him and his army, armor increase for himself and his army.

Also buff Lore of Metal.
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>joey basically slams the door on sisters of twilight being in the game

Elfshitposters on suicide watch
>>
>>160929324

Don't really care desu, sure their gimmick is a bit cute, but it couldn't work like it did on the tabletop anyway.
>>
>"Darren we've had meeting about you not leaking stuff"

Darren truly is the Ourest of Guys
>>
>>160924867
His VA is so good
I created a witch hunter, named him Diedrick Kastner and used him to K/O Archaon
>tfw he says "judgement is coming" when he blams archaon.
>>
>>160928952
as someone that had no success with them whatsoever, could u give me some tips ?
>>
>>160928921
That firing through their own ranks thing probably has something to do with handgunners being able to compete with other ranged units and unit responsiveness in general in a really fast game. The "no reload" animation probably has to do with that too, but it's pretty lame there isn't even a small and undetailed reload animation. The crossbowmen reload animation is pretty detailed and it makes sense for it to be so fast.

No reason to praise the previous kneel animations when they only caused trouble with unit responsiveness and balance.
>>
>>160928751
I do get that. just trying to counter mis conceptions that bret peasants are all complete trash with no redeeming qualities. They are over performing I'll agree.

And I would like to see bretonnian armies with more you know... knights.
>>
>>160929324
Really?

Pity.

But that means that Ariel being in is very probable.
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>>160906195
Attila as an irrelevant faction. Carve out your own little chunk and sit down in the snow whilst the rest of the world burns.
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>>160862558
Threadly reminder to remove Stunties
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>>160906195
Empire as United Provinces
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So how would Skaven play? Long range attacks?
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>>160928751
Beloved son of bretonnia is really what pushes them over the top

At least without that you could use fear/terror and exploit their low leadership but nope they have mapwide immune to psychology
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>>160929932
they still have amazing stats and absolutely destroy all large units
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>>160929932
Beloved son of bretonnia was a mistake, it should only be limited to like a 50m radius.

If your army has no flying units it is always active.
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>>160929842
damn belegar packing some heat, son
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>>160929697
It's the cost effectiveness of the infantry that is the reason Knights aren't used at all. I don't play multiplayer, but from the few times I have played matches it was pretty clear that whatever units are the most cost effective, are the ones used.

So despite the Brets being the faction all about knights on horseback, all you see are peasant builds. Same reason why Chaos is considered bottom tier.

Honestly I think multiplayer right now is a bit pointless until they add something like the Avatar system, and balancing later down the line. It's pretty clear CA's priority is to add as much content as they can rather than making sure they are balanced out in competitive play.

Which honestly, I don't really mind since I play almost only for the singleplayer these days with Total War. But I can see why others would be peeved about it.
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time to play kraka drak

remove norse
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>>160929919
Poison and expendable rats. Backed up by lots of explosions, warmachines, rat ogres and the occasional seer.
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>>160929919
Large masses of infantry, poor leadership, some good monstrous units and long ranged attacks. But with a lot of RNG involved with some of their stuff, if CA has the guts for that.
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>>160929932
>>160930280

Pretty sure it is even bugged right now.
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>>160929842
Fucking goblins need to be purged. Get the 40k guys in here.
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>>160929684
Khazrak with whip but minus personal buff abilities and the Lore of Beasts shaman with only Cygor and Viletide spell. Also Doombull without the personal buffs but take a potion of endurance and keep the army buffs.

Two Bestigors, two centigors with GW, 3 or 4 gors with shields, a unit of spawn, and then as many Minotaurs as you can afford. I think I remember having money left over for spear ungors, but that's your wiggle-room.

Throw the Spawn in where it gets tough. Cycle the Minotaurs from the front and the Centigors from the back. Khazrak and the Doombull anchor the line with their leadership buffs. The Bestigors attack wherever the enemy lord is.
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Any of the Attila campaign add-ons worth picking up?

Also, how is performance on Attila? I can run Shogun 2 reliably at 60+FPS maxed out - is Attila liable to shit itself, or go alright? Rome 2 runs pretty well too, assuming I turn down shadows / take unit detail down from max. I just want to be able to play max unit sizes, without going potato-mode.
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>>160930928

Attila has shitty perfomance compared to R2. Warhames is between the two.
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>>160930928
Attila is awfully optimized.
I have a RX480 and an i5-6600K overclocked to 4,00 GHz
I am playing on Ultra Sizes with textures on max, Shadows on performance and everything else on quality.
Framerate still goes down to under 30fps in big battles.
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So, Attila is on sale. Should I buy it?
My favourite TW more recent game is Fall of the Samurai, but I also liked Rome 2 after most of the patching was done. Haven't touched Warhammer yet too.
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>>160929919
The very definition of expendable. Even more so than O&G. It's cute because when you crunch the numbers on the tabletop it's cheaper and more effective to just bring more basic Skavenslaves than it is to give them either spears or shields.
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>>160931323
Attila is pretty great but most of the fun factions are locked behind DLC.
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>>160930407
the reason only the peasants are used is that beloved son of brettonia turns them into fearless murder machines, and both the spears and halberds have charge defence vs large meaning that all it takes to win as Brettonia is forming a noob-box with your massively op-for-their-price peasants and occasionly clicking a target for your 6 peasant archers to bombard all while making sure your King is flying around avoiding combat to keep beloved son of brettonia up. It is a build that takes literally no skill to play, and if you look at LegendofTotalWar's videos of him playing it you can see him use it as a crutch to climb the leaderboard
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>>160931323

Attila is basically R2 but done better. You could also just snag Warhammer if you want to experience something different. If you're not into the franchise though you might feel better about Attila.
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>>160931323
Even if you know nothing about Warhammer as a setting I think you'd enjoy it. A bunch of people I've introduced to the game thought that they would hate the fantasy stuff (big history buffs) and they ended up loving it.

As for Atilla, well it is pretty good, definitely an improvement over Rome II. However it is poorly optimized as fuck, and performance overall is pretty bad.

If you do end up playing Warhammer at some point, make sure to play Atilla before that. Since Warhammer will spoil you with its turn times.
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>>160931595
I'm a pretty big Warhammer 40k fan and I played Rise of Chaos back in the day (although that was a pretty mediocre RTS).
It's just Warhammer is not on sale (yet).

>>160931503
Which DLC packs are worth buying?
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>>160931767
slavs and empire of sands.
Age of charlieman is a good expansion.
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THOSE FUCKING KIKES
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>"B-But Moghur will be Multiplayer only!"
>"T-there's no way they'll waste resources on more units for shitty Beastmemes"
>"But NO DLC FOR DLC!"

get fukt

The time of PooPooPeePee has come again
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>>160920917
>not sending in the irondrakes

Thats a grudge.
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>>160931767
Hey, if you need it, I have a 20% of Warhammer code you could use.
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>>160931926


>Put the guy whos rivals with the Wood Elves in Nordland
>Put the guy whos rivals with Middenheim in Estalia

Who the fuck comes up with this bullshit?
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>>160931762
>Warhammer will spoil you with its turn times.

Yeah, I tried going back to previous games and the blazing fast turn times have definately left a impact.

>>160931926

Why does he have such tiny arms.

>>160931924

>buying from steam

Go to a legit reseller instead like GMG.
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>>160931924

So what are the projections for the Steam Christmas sale?

-15% at best?
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>>160932015

To give the player a journey to make.
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>>160931924
oyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy veyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy
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>>160931767

>Which DLC packs are worth buying?

For Attila?

Literally only Empires of Sand, everything else is a major scam.

Also Age of Big Charlie, but that's not a faction DLC.
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>this army comp

jesus christ, them horses, i just want to auto it out of frustration
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>>160932015
>put two rivals in adjacent provinces
>you kill each other 20 turns into the game
Simply epic.
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>>160931284
>>160931167
That's a bad omen then. Running a 4670k and r9 280x. Was counting on the CPU dependent nature of total war to let me get away with being a few years dated. Might have to potatofy a few settings then.

I'm taking it that Attila is a bit like Empire then - no matter your system, it'll fuck up somehow?
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>>160932227

For god's sake get a Better AI Recruitment mod
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>>160931767
>vikings
Doesn't really add much. They have a unique roster but are otherwise indistinct from the Barbarian factions in the base game.

>longbeards
More barbarians. Very, very good if you enjoy that kind of thing. If you're not particularly bothered by smelly Germans it's just more of the same and safely skipped.

>celts
Very fun, because all three factions have army-wide guerilla deployment, even siege weapons. Picts can also initiate night battles at any time which makes for fun early campaigns.

>sand
Probably the best DLC, if only for the variety. Himyar and Aksum are really well designed, and the Tanukhids have a completely unique campaign experience.

>slavs
Unique rosters and playstyles and victory conditions but it came at the tail end of Attila's life cycle and that fact is very obvious.

>last roman
Fairly standard mini-campaign with five factions, two of which have new rosters whilst the other three re-use their rosters from the grand campaign. A fun change of pace but not mandatory in any sense.

>charlemagne
Fantastic mini-campaign. Basically a standalone game. The quality is consistently fantastic and if you enjoy the time period it's well worth getting.
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>>160932253
>implying there's anything wrong with this
>implying they'll ever run into eachother when they're so far away

By the time WE get to the Empire, Morghul will be dead/fucking with Kislev
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>>160931962
Thanks for the offer man, but I'd probably end up buying it at a key reseller anyway if it doesn#t go on sale soon.
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>>160881302
>that guy behind
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>>160932227
Do yourself a favor and get the mod that fix the stacks
Why CA never fixed it themselves is beyond me
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>>160932318
>>160932207
>>160931912

Thank you, I'll probably get Sands and AoC right away.
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>>160932528
That's probably the best choice. Have fun, anon!
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>>160932227

There's a mod that fixes enemy composition. It makes a huge impact and avoids armies like that.

>>160932293
>r9 280x

Mah nigga, I'm running a R9 270X. Shit card compared to everything new but it's cheap as fuck and does most games reasonably well.

I can play Attila on Low-Medium graphics at about 40-60 FPS, but I usually play with very small unit sizes. Same goes for Warhams. What really kills the perfomance though is the amount of units, so if you want to play on Ultra you should get a better card.
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>>160932293
>no matter your system, it'll fuck up somehow?

Pretty much.

>>160932360
No problem, always a good idea to wait in this case.

Honestly you might be better off waiting until February too. Since I'm pretty sure they will make the DLC go on sale when the launch the Old World Edition.
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>>160932612
Are you using dx12? it makes a difference for AMD cards
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What's this abandoned dorf hold in the chaos wastes?
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>>160924638
I am in love /twg/
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>>160932332

Morghur.

You've been posting Morghul all thread.
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>>160932875

I tried, but it made no difference in perfomance. It did change one thing though, loading times. It went from around 7 seconds to about 95 seconds.
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>>160932332
Not if they start at war with Wood Elves.


Khazrak always travels towards the empire because he starts at war with Middenheim and Karl Franz. It's basically 50/50 if he ends up there though from my experience. It all depends on if the Bretonnians kill him or not.
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>>160932940
Karak Dum.
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>>160932985
Yeah the loading times suck on dx12
But im getting about 10 more fps on my card
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>>160932963

my bad senpai (´・ω・`)
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>>160933031
So that's why they built a hold in the chaos wastes.
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the hardest part of krakky drak is just keeping corruption down
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>>160933081

That's right.

Now post your Steam ID
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>>160932940
Karak Dum, lost over two hundred years ago. It's the setting for one of the better Gotrek & Felix novels where they travel as part of an expeditionary force and discover that there are still Dwarfen holdouts two centuries later under a state of never ending siege.

Dwarfs are fucking hardcore.
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>>160933195
>conquer anywhere
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>>160933195

>Conquer anywhere
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>>160933035

Eh, not worth it in my case. Game only goes below 30 frames if there are more than two armies in battles. Regular battlefields I get around 50-60.

That's on the lowest setting and on Small unit size. Being poor is terrible.
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I am thinking about getting an older total war game this steam sale. All of them are half the price, except Attila, that is 1/4 of the price. Should i get Attila?
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>I sure can't wait to purchase Total War: Warhammer on the upcoming Steam sale!
>Even Civ 6 got reduced in price, and that came out like last week! Surely they will also lower the price for a game that's half a year old!

>it's unironically still 118 shekels to buy the whole thing

NO NO NO
WHY
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>>160933341
>>160933287

Come on people, I'm not that guy but not only is Norsca entirely mountainous anyway, the Kraka Drak campaign would be both near-impossible and fucking pointless if you couldn't conquer Norscan settlements.

Just don't capture any Empire/Vamp settlements and it's entirely thematically appropriate.
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>>160933195

>Conquer Anywhere
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>>160933195
>conquer Anywhere
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>>160933276
Dwarven Karaks man.

Only Chaos Daemons or Greenskins would have the guts to constantly besiege such a place.

Pity there are no layers after layers of fortifications for Dwarfs in the game.

Instead they get extra regiments.
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>>160933470
Attila is probably the best historical TW game in terms of quality, but the golden rule will always be to buy the game that's set in the era you like the most.
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>>160933501
This, take it from a guy who tried it.
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>>160933470
Shogun 2 is the best entry to the series

Attila is my personal favorite but I don't think it's beginner friendly
>>
>>160933474

Just ask for a 20% off code here, I'm sure someone has one laying around.

I have a few, I'm at work though.
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>>160933501
Everything else still gets fucked up, and why even play Kraka Drak if not for the challenge?
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>Total War: Attila 75% off
Oh mama
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>>160932227
Honest question: how do you deal with Cavalry and Flying Units? I just default my Anti-Large and pray.
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>>160933680

Quarrelers eat missile cavalry.
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>>160933195
>conquer anywhere.
>>
>>160933680
Usually counter both with cavalry.
>>
Anyone got that map of the Chaos Wastes?
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>>160933663
Shitty game
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>>160933974
You have the worst taste, pleb.
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>>160933195
>CONQUER ANYWHERE
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>>160933878

In particular I'm looking for a good quality version of the top half of this map, which I know exists somewhere as I've seen it before
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>>160933195
cONQUER aNYWHERE
>>
What the fuck is up with the Rome 2 sale?
I was actually (maybe) going to get it this time
>>
>>160933470
Shogun 2 + Fall of the samurai are excellent. Rome 2 is decent and so is Attila
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>>160933195
>conquer
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>>160933195
You are full of shit
>>
>no discount on Shogun 2 whatsoever
This is some advanced jewery.
>>
Y'know, they call the Beastmen the poopoo race, but zooming in on Greenskin settlements shows that they're literally covered in mounds of shit. At least the Beastmen don't LIVE in their feces.
>>
>>160935078
>both beastmemes and greenscum are shit
Wow, who would've thought.
>>
>>160933470
Others have mentioned Attila, so here's the rest of them.

Shogun 2 and Fall of the Samurai are both excellent. Get them if you haven't already.

Rome 2 is okay. I personally do not like it, but it isn't the same clusterfuck it was on release. The game just lacks soul. If you decide to get Rome 2, do yourself a favour and at least get the Rome 1 soundtrack mod. It adds a lot. Rome 2's soundtrack was disgustingly bad. Could not civilize barbarians to/10.

Empire is very rough around the edges, and the AI is absolutely awful. I'd recommend Napoleon instead if you want that Era. Supposedly Napoleon is to Empire, that Attila was to Rome 2. I've not played Napoleon though, but the general consensus I recall was that it was vastly superior.

Rome 1 feels pretty dated, but Medieval 2 is still quite enjoyable, especially with mods. The kingdoms campaigns, Stainless Steel (pretty heavily modded vanilla campaign), and the Third Age, are all extremely good.

Vanilla Medieval 2 is definitely playable, but after playing mods, I wouldn't go back to it.
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>>160933195
> Conquer Anywhere
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>>160933195

>Conquer Anywhere
>Doesnt even change them to dwarfen names
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>>160935165
Kill everything without a beard.
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>>160933195
> ! CONQUER ANYWHERE !
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>>160935028
There is for myself. -66% on the "full Shogun 2" with all the non-ROTS/FOTS DLC's. 14USD total.

Maybe it just hasn't updated or something.
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>>160935423
What's wrong with conquer anywhere?
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>>160935487
whoops, it actually does include ROTS. No blood DLC though.
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uhh
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>>160935287
Can confirm that Napoleon is all of the good parts of Empire except even better.
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>>160935513
literally every-fucking-thing
>>
So are Wood Elves shit since they get Conquer Anywhere by default?
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>>160935643
Modded Napoleon is fucking great.
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>>160935818
No, because they can't actually conquer anywhere. They just get a slightly better raze which plays in to their theme of returning the world to its natural state.
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>>160935643
Didn't Empire not give every faction a minuscule economy and make replenishing your armies a huge pain in the ass?
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>>160933474
Because the game is selling well enough and so consistently that they don't need a deep sale. Plus they are doing the Grombrindal promotion with the 20% off that they likely don't want to detract from.
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>>160931503

>Attila is pretty great but most of the fun factions are locked behind DLC.

I've literally never played anything other than WRE.

I can't bring myself to play non-Roman factions
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>>160935961

>natural state

I hate this term so much. It's been completely destroyed by enviromentalist and hippies.
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>>160936056
Same, but for the ERE. I did see a VH WRE playthrough to completion once but every other faction I play I just end up getting bored and quitting after 20ish turns.
>>
>>160936057
"Natural state" implying that Elves are the only race that exists. Not a magical forest wonderland.
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>>160935818
Of course.
>>
Should I get:

Shogun2?
Fall of Samurai?
Attila?
>>
>>160936253

Fall of the Samurai is superb and arguably better than vanilla S2.

Attila plays like a upgraded version of R2 with shitter perfomance.
>>
>When you make the mistake of taking Kremm over a normal vampire lord
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>>160936056
>>160936209
Roma Invicta, Patricians
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>>160936253
Like some other have said Attila is my favorite, I even prefer the setting to Rome 2's. The difficulty curve is a little higher though and it does run like utter shit. Seriously I have a fucking 1080 and it still drops to 30fps optimized for future cards my ass
>>
>>160933195
>conquer anywhere

I threw up
What else? Radious?
>>
>actually buying anything other than warhammer
>giving the shekelmasters evern more gold

What the actual fuck.
Just pirate everything you dumb fucks.
>>
>>160937082
>Just pirate everything you dumb fucks.
>you dumb fucks.
oh the irony
>>
>>160935287
What about Shogun
>>
NEW

>>160937613
>>160937613
>>160937613
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>>160933195
>conquer anywhere
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>>160933169

It wasn't always in the Wastes, they grow with each big Chaos incursion.
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>>160935638
i still don't understand why Kingdoms is not included in this fucking collection
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>>160936253
All three are great, although I realise that isn't very helpful. Attila probably needs more DLC to extend its lifespan, while the other two don't really need DLC, if that helps at all.
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