/domg/ - Dominions General

Magoth x Bifrons OTP

>>160855214
http://astral-corruption.corgiorgy.com

>>160855214
Serial question. What is the horror sprite supposed to represent anyway? Is there a head/mouth/hand/anything?

>>160855634
Absolutely no idea. I think it's just supposed to be spooky.

>>160855634
Your puny human mind cannot comprehend its true form.

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Lizard + Jew eternal broship?

Hopefully we can get an arena event soon so that we can have a lizard vs. jew showdown.

Realm of Roaring Scrubs retrospective in case there's anyone who cares and missed it in the last thread:

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>>160855634
>>160855751
>>160855763
I think it is pretty straightforward.

Shit man you got like 1 (one) insight right?

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>>160856909
Don't you question the things I've seen and unseen.

I ran out of games

any currently recruiting?

>>160857538
http://www.llamaserver.net/gameinfo.cgi?game=WinterRaceWar

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VYy77IGsBFc

>>160857757
>http://www.llamaserver.net/gameinfo.cgi?game=WinterRaceWar
meh, not a fan of NationGen

>>160857953
It's also not, like, fun nations. Or some of them are, like the foulspawn, but many of the cool ones didn't get added in.

>>160856593
>Lizard + Jew eternal broship?
Oh, yes. That is pleases me the most.

And about Arena... I have seen your Tartarian SCs, they are good, but can they withstand the strength of the real overgeared SCs I possess? I hope Ermor will Wish for the Arena Match instead of his stupid Armageddon spam plan he declared.

Also, only Nazca remains to send turn in. Why won't we set him AI already? If you have no familiar dominion players willing to help, I may ask my guys to set him AI. Do you need assistance?

>>160857538
http://www.llamaserver.net/gameinfo.cgi?game=MokouIsHot

>>160856656
Yeah, I tried some diplo. Jomon responded to my initial message with a declaration of war, Atlantis was friendly but never did anything, Bogarus and Agartha outright ignored my messages (Specifically, Bogarus agreed to borders during expansion, but nothing later). Caelum eventually agreed to hit Jomon after I shut down his second invasion, but was slow enough that Jomon was able to rebuild and recover. Atlantis had a similar problem in fighting you. I don't know if he even did, in fact. I was in regular communication with TC, and had to abandon the siege because I couldn't spare the manpower to take his capital while fighting you and jomon (and Bogarus). (Also some other stuff- he offered me all his gems, and I expected him to open up a front against you, which he never did).

Bogarus was bizarre. He invaded just before before Caelum attacked Jomon, but would constantly send a full stack to take one province and then retreat. I wiped him once or twice with defensive traps, but that was additional pressure on my manpower since he always came back. Strands was an attempt to approve that, but he ignored it, then quit and the AI went nuts with heavy cav in my backdoor. By the time he left, I'm pretty sure I had killed or disabled almost every mage he had recruited.

Playing conservatively on your part was the right call. Since I had multiple fronts, the more you kept me stalemated, the further behind I fell. I was trying to bait you into an attack earlier in our war so I could wipe it and get some breathing room to permanently solve Bogarus.

The way the game was going, though, Agartha would have just attacked me as soon as I did so.

In retrospect, I screwed up by not turning on you turn 17 when I decided you were diplomonstering, instead of going ahead with my China plans. I also should have considered fucking over Bogarus instead of trying to curry diplo points by pointing out that they had no pd, since they attacked 2 turns later.

>>160859838
Also, now that the game is over, I'd like to share some of your messages, if that's cool.

>>160860080
I don't think we had any communications of note but go ahead, I can always kill myself if it's too embarrassing

>>160859749
COME ON NIGGERS WE NEED ONE MORE PERSON

>>160856656
What was your stradegy with the armies and what kind of pretender and scales did you choose?

Any bigger mistakes you would avoid, if you had to play pangea again.

>>160856656
>>160859838

I did my best to try and get back into the game, but I literally had no idea how to come back from getting completely eaten from the elves.

My first year ended with like six provinces after I had lost just about every expansion party for x reason. Really ticked me off since I had practiced the expansion a lot before the game was even announced in thread. (I had asked the admin to make an LA game for me to play with him not in it)

So after I was surrounded by much more powerful nations, I saw my neighbor go AI and decided to eat them before getting into a war with a player. Next thing I know, Pan asks me to ally versus Midgard... then Midgard attacks me, I lose all the forts and research labs I was going to try to build... then I learn that Midgard was asked to attack me...

After crawling out from the dead with the cost of all the gems I had, I tried to take on AI to get back into the game, takes waaay too long. All the while I try to figure out how to get back at Pan with a vastly inferior army and absolutely no magic research. Really not something I want to attack when I see my enemy borders having 6x the amount of troops I got.

Eh whatever... I'm a scrublord. I will go down saying, I never went AI.

>>160860854
oh, alright then. LA Abysia. Just give me a sec.

>>160860854
I just submitted the most cancer pretender ever. You're welcome.

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>>160863624
Or whoops was just about to, you can play with Abysia instead of my Dom 10 E9/D3/W1 T3/S3/C3/D3/L3/M3 awake Hound of Hades

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>>160861956
I had dormant D4N4 Carrion Dragon with scales. Carrion Dragon is a very potent deterrent (Soul Vortex+Invulnerability and Quickness and Body Ethereal from Centaur Sages does wonders against regular troops) and could reliably cast Mother Oak with a booster (I opted not to, initially because I didn't want such a diplomatic malus at decisive moment, and then because the pretender got horror marked, although he survived the two horror attacks that came during the game anyway) in addition to increasing your diversity with death. I think Carrion Dragon is a good pick, although putting your S/W/A gem income to use would also be welcome.

As for mistakes, you definitely shouldn't take luck for starters. Yet another game where it did nothing at all but I keep falling to the trap (partially for thematic reasons). Another thing that comes to my mind is misuse Stymphalian Birds. There's a number of great tactics that utilize them (such as using an army without steel-armoured troops of your own and casting Iron Bane, or just alpha strikes against light infantry/archers/mages) but during the course of the game I throw a lot of them away by grouping them with other infantry, such that the harpies charged the enemy and died surrounded by enemies or to friendly crossbow fire. You'd probably want to keep them on guard commander more when there's such a risk. Centaur Cataphracts might also have been worth utilizing more beyond expansion.

I'm new as fuck
When creating a Pretender, is it better to put like 2 points in every school except maybe Blood, or put like 4-5 in a few schools?

>>160866896
Neither of those things.

Otherwise it depends entirely on the nation.

>>160866896
Neither.

As for the actual answer, ______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________IT DEPENDS

>>160866896
Putting four in a few schools can be good for some nations if they're schools that you need. I made a pretender like that for a nationgen nation that has national summons but not the paths to access them.

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>>160867189
Depends on my steategy you mean?

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>when you realize mictlan went quadbless but Marverni went Tri-bless

god speed you beautiful bastard

>>160867364
Yes.

Some nations want a major bless which means 9 points in a path. Some nations don't give a rats ass about the bless so you can just take whatever lets you craft the things you want and cast the spells you want.

I can't think of a nation that wants no magic, though.

>>160867364
Your intended goals/strategy, your nation, other present nations, the map (and how cramped it might be), if rare events are common or not, maybe other misc settings

Just putting ~2 points in every path is (sort of) a "rainbow build" and is frequently used by nations that want an awake/dormant pretender walking around sight-searching a bunch (which, as a design, isn't very common) or other niche things. It also might provide a lot of access to magics you otherwise wouldn't have (and thus also requires knowing more about the game), so you can exploit that.

>>160866896

Varies by nation. Many benefit from major blesses (i.e. 9 in a path). There are uses for "Rainbow" pretenders, but they're fairly niche. Some want dominion scales before all else. Some want an awake pretender to boost expansion. Some want a pretender with specific paths to leverage national spells.

And most want at least two of those things! Deciding the tradeoff is where the strategy comes in.

>>160859195
>wildly disproportionately powerful nations didn't get added in
>this is less fun

>>160867749

Naturally! I should have a wildly disproportionately powerful nation, everyone else should have random junk. It's the best way to play natgen.

>>160867582
>Not going B9 for Unlimited Boar Works
Still pretty fucking rad though.

>>160867749
>he thinks 50g foulspawn thug mages and Berserker 7 units are okay
There's some bullshit in the chosen nations too, dude.

>>160867981
To be fair though, that would be pretty fun.

>>160868447

ErmorOP suggests it doesn't work so great.

in other news congrats to machaka for getting his monkey king hero

>>160868893

What else can you tell us? I have found no scouts.

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>>160868323
Is there anything that's really sticking out? If it's something for the nation you chose, you don't have to write it but it's in your advantage to rat out your opponents.

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>>160869732
only that machaka has a neter of chaos and atlantis is almost done wiping theodoros out and doing a service for all land dwellers everywhere

If you have units commanded by a priest, and are sieging a fort, if you set the priest to preach, do his units not count toward the siege? Or is being on that Provence enough?

>>160869803
Hey, what kind of stuff do you do when you're genning nations for people? What settings do you actually make use of?

Like, if I wanted an earth/death/blood vanir nation, what would you do?

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I almost feel bad for the guy.

Question, I was under the impression that when playing in a disciple game when a team reached 5 temples they'd get bumped up a tier in dominion strength? My team has hit 5 combined temples and now I have 5 temples myself(8 total in the team, team of 2 nations) and we haven't seen an increase in dominion strength. What am I missing?

>>160869803
Tisor can recruit 1.5 expansion parties per turn with their chariots. With an awake snake, prod 3, and shuttling commanders in to lead extra expansion parties, it can hit 40+ provinces in year 1. Alternatively, they can go for a bless since they also have insane sacreds - 3 attacks, 27 hp, 19 prot, 17 MR, Berserker 5 (!!!) and a werebear wounded form.

I think that Tisor's mages are terrible and wouldn't want to play them, but it seems like it'd be pretty straightforward to roll over the first neighbor that they meet with either a raw resource advantage or sacreds that require specific magic to deal with. A good player can snowball to victory just off their troops, and a bad player can still take someone else out of the game if they bother to try.

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>>160874314
>skele on skele group bonin'

>>160874385
the number of temples you need is 5 times the number of players on a team. So a team of 2 needs 10, a team of 5 needs 25. The logic here is that with each additional player you can build temples that many times faster.

>>160869803
Can you delete the Tjaem pretender? I think that they're a fine nation (neat berserk sacred and good magic), I just realized that I won't have time to play.

>>160875197

Thanks for the reply and info!

>>160844827
RIP in peace, Shlomo.
Out of curiosity- did Wrath of God actually kill or wound any of your mages, or was it just a complete waste of gems?

>>160875778
I think I lost one Ammi at one point. Otherwise I think basically every one of the very, very few deaths received was one of my indie archers.

What are some cool spells to cast with a F6A6W6E6S9D6N6 mage?

>>160876227
haha. Well, I blew another load of gems on Strands of Arcane Power this turn. Hopefully that doesn't go as pitifully.

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Mo' kou, mo' memes

>>160876642
depends on what schools you have researched

>>160876965
remove agartha

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>>160876965
>2hu named game
>only one fucking 2hu pretender

ALL OF YOU DISAPPOINT ME

>>160876965
apparently 'innovative' is the hot new meme

RUN THROUGH THE JUNGLE

>>160873926
They do not count towards the siege

>>160859310

>Why won't we set him AI already? If you have no familiar dominion players willing to help, I may ask my guys to set him AI. Do you need assistance?

Earlier before I got insanely busy and back when Asphodel was generally taking their turns on time, I was just forcehosting when Nazca was the last to take their turn (I had already wasted turns setting two others AI).

If you're got someone that'll set them AI, that's fine by me. Otherwise if Asphodel will stop waiting until the last second to do turns, I'll just continue forcehosting when they're the only ones left.

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>>160863281

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>>160877687
Anyone with innovative in their names is likely not a noob

>>160880345
I don't get it.

So, Berytos, Ur, Caelum, Arco, Abysia, Pangaea, and Pelagia - do you desire to concede defeat, or do you which to see what 3 Mind Lords on repeat cast for genocide looks like?

I need any concession to be absolutely unanimous.

>>160882572
being a sub I really don't give a fuck, I can attest though the longer this goes on I will contribute to the cancer

>>160882572
Script them to wish for friends on repeat. Much more memeworthy.

And it looks like Itza is staling again. I dont especially want to get rid of him because he might have real world shit going on but at the same time I dont want to have to wait for hours needlessly every turn and he hasn't said anything on the thread so I cant do much else.

Does anyone want to jump in for Itza? We are going onto turn 6 and he has been staling since turn 4. No idea what his paths or scales are like but his guy is called the divine smith so he presumably has E.

>>160883764
Possibly send an admin message via llama asking him to post in thread if he's in need of a sub. Might not work but at least it's harder to miss.

>>160878317
[ENDGAME INTENSIFIES]

Pretty excited senpai. It's like facing down the last boss.

>>160884094
Thats a good idea and I wish I thought of it earlier. Still at this point I might as well put the word out.

>>160882572
I would concede but I also want to see you wrought the mindlord apocalypse upon us all.

>>160882572
Post map, I want to see how ridiculous the world is

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check the repeating numerals

>>160885614
I thought that ritual was MR negates.

Why did it work on a pretender?

>>160884859
I will when the next turn goes through. Hopefully Sauromatia doesn't use their stand power to fuck up all the turns again.

>>160885614
This was a hilarious battle. Totally worth the pearls.

>>160883764
No one interested in being Itza? You might be a few turns behind but you do have some pretty OP options available to you.

where can I get worthy heroes 5.5?
Dom4 mods is down.

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Well that sure is fucking awesome.

>>160887646
If I dont hear anything in about an hour I think I'll just set them to AI altogether. It is nearly 4 am here and I cant wait up all night.

>>160889404
I owe /domg/ some subs but I just cannot give a fuck about that specific situation and game, sorry.

>>160889514
The elves are probably breathing a sigh of relief that one of their stronger neighbors will be reduced to a retarded AI.

>>160877581
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HqfMWuzqEwQ

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>>160890183
ah I was confusing it with this yaoi manga
https://www.mangaupdates.com/series.html?id=55636

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>>160877581
>>160890281
At least a few of those could be 2hu references. Caelum and C'tis reference Okuu and the various ha- er, beautiful young women in 2hu, big lez might be another one although I doubt it, and Ragha likes Moko-tan.

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>>160877581
This ain't a game of pretend, bub

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>>160892401
we can make it one

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So this is a thug...
Next game I will have to make one of these before turn 60!

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>>160892401
What is it then?

too tired to properly micro anymore

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>>160892616
What a fearsome beast!

>>160888091
/domg/ please it's important

>>160893195
Yeah, I'm done for now myself. Looking at this new turn I realized I forgot to script that battle.
Also squids gonna win. Calling it now.

>>160893703
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B7TQ3dXYvc1qNm1rVDFWRzFsNGc/view?usp=sharing

>>160888091
>>160893703
http://dom4archive.kermodebear.org/www.desura.com/games/dominions-4-thrones-of-ascensions/forum/thread/worthy-heroes-v55.html

I'm only spoonfeeding you because I want you to get your turn in. Next time try using Google.

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7 turns in one night!

How many S1 mages casting Magic Duel does it take to kill an S9 monolith? Asking for a friend.

>>160894898
bring all of them just to be sure

>>160894898
won't work.

>>160895114
What if all but one of them cast communion master, one casts communion slave, one master casts Power of the Spheres and then they all Magic Duel? Or do communion buffs only apply to slaves?

>>160895276
Magic Duel takes base paths.

i dont know i think it might work

>>160895323
Damn. I guess I just gotta hack it to pieces with weapons that ignore armor, huh?
Or maybe route it with infinite skeletons. I guess I can always set up a communion with all my S1D1 mages.

>>160895562
yeah routing it with skelly spam seems like your best option

>>160895727
Too bad that will only work defensively. Well, I'll think of something. Tomorrow after work.
Get some sleep, S9 monolith.

>>160895562
>rout an immobile

Gate Cleaver Thugs

i dont even know why someone would be worried about my little monolith, with africa's doomstacks tied up in monkey country and squids pushing towards the other thrones.

ive only got three throne points after all. but i didnt spend the past 60 turns fighting off hinnom and yomi just to roll over for machaka

Send me blood slaves. All your blood slaves. I will solve this armageddon spam the simplest way possible.

>>160880246
OK, this evening I'll ask the people from my IRC if someone willing to help setting Nazca AI. But I'll have trouble posting their e-mail here, so I guess I have to send it to you in-game.

Also Ermor went after Armageddon, as I expected. Funny that the one who suffered from it troops-wise is him. But income dropped again. We have to seriously put him in check.

>>160895836

Won't even work defensively. If you're in a province with an enemy S9 monolith, if you don't kill it, it wins.

>>160905862
>he doesn't know about turn limits

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SBOOKS :DD

>>160906101

I do know about turn limits. First it routs. It can't go anywhere, so it stays. Then you rout. Then it's berserkers rout. Then your berserkers rout. Then it's destroyed.

The problem being, even if you have berserkers, they're probably all gone before it gets destroyed.

>>160906419
If you cannot escape at your time limit, you melt. See: Golems used offensively.

>>160906458

Yes. I just said that.

The problem is that if you're using that to try and kill it, you need to ensure that YOU have shit on the battlefield when it hits turn limit.

Which is difficult, because you're past your own autorout turn limit.

>>160906521
Seriously, load up a test game, fill one province with skelly spammers, teleport your S9 monolith onto it. If it doesn't kill the spammers with soulslay/enslave whatever, it dies.

Have you literally never seen this happen to a golem where its user misjudged the defense in the province it was attacking?

>>160906521
>>160906419
>I do know about turn limits
Apparently not, lol.

>>160906575 is right, offensive mindless units will melt before defenders rout. I encourage you to verify this for yourself.

>>160906631
>>160906575

Ah, see, there's your problem.

Monoliths aren't Mindless.

>>160906668
That isn't why they melt. They melt because they hit the time limit. Mindless is what makes them not rout. I don't know what's difficult about this for you.

>>160906713
>>160906631
>>160906575
are wrong

>>160906668
is right

Only mindless dudes melt until the last turn limit. Mindless units melt sooner because they do so instead of retreating.

Post your best dom4 memes plz.

>>160908248
How about we make a new meme picture. Any ideas?

>>160908331
Something innovative.

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>>160908331
Fish friends.

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>>160867582

>>160910314
I like it.

>>160900726
That will only make my penis harder, broheim.

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>>160855634

Ahaha. Earthdawn. Can't find a bigger image, but horrors are incredibly nastry buggers seen up close.

>>160911656
Verjigorm, Hunter of Great Dragons. Pretty much the biggest and baddest mofo in the setting.

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>>160911792
forgot the pic

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>>160908512

>>160911886

Thanks!

"Horrors" is indeed an apt name. After reading up on Earthdawn so many details fall into place, like the Thorn armour as a blood booster.

IT KEEPS HAPPENING

Caelum, that province we bumped into, you can have it but give me 2-3 turns to get a commander there to recover my boars.

You can also have the province I told you about last turn, but not this turn since I'll need to go across it to recover them.

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How would /domg/ fix astral pretender chassis?
Right now you're forced to put 5+ points of Astral into them even if you don't need the path, just to protect them from Magic Duel & Mind Hunt

It makes pretenders like Monolith and Celestial General much worse than they actually are.

>>160912669
Give some links to what you read, made me curious.

>>160912764
Turn your weakness into a strength and make a wish-casting machine. That or just choose a different chassis. Teleporting immobile pretenders are already too strong in my opinion.

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>tfw you do a double turn on Turn 76

>>160912669
yup, and horror marking was ripped almost 1:1 from the setting. Shillwinter must have played Earthdawn to hell and back.

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Is there any way to win with Yomi? I'm getting my ass handed to me by all of my neighbors every time I play.

>>160913928
It's hard. If your enemies can't deal with the demon SCs, awesome. If they can, you're stuck relying on expensive skelly/evo and shitty troops.

RoS traps v humans and counter-thugs vs the big guys is probably your best bet, but yeah.

>>160913972
I paid him to suicide the caster. Mostly I think he didn't realize how strong it was prior to casting it and wanted to avoid the hate.

Jews, you here? Get in the Steam chat.

t. Malakal

>>160914714
Kay, I'm in.

I need moar Spurdominions.

>>160912764
I don't really think they need fixing. Looking at the different things you can do with your pretender:

>bless
>scales
Neither really cares much about low astral, since you're not taking the pretender in order to field it in fights.

>rainbow
If it takes astral, will almost always have decent levels (because that's where most of the good spells/items are). Doesn't usually get fielded without an army (which can include S1 mages to soak up duels).

>awake expander
First, fairly sure there aren't any good awake expanders with astral. More importantly, they're not going to deal with magic duel until past expansion when their role is mostly finished.

>SC pretender
The only one which gets significantly affected, and does anyone run pretenders specifically for this purpose anymore?

>It makes pretenders like Monolith and Celestial General much worse than they actually are.
Looking at your two specific examples, I don't really think astral is a big issue for them.

Monolith is great, even with astral included. In this case astral lets you grab S3 for teleport cheaply, so I'd call it an overall benefit because it lets your pretender move.

Celestial General isn't bad because it has astral, it's bad because it's expensive for what it gives (mainly booster access) compared to human pretenders. If you took the S1 away it would still be bad.

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! A T T E N T I O N !

Are you a new player?

Are you tired of plowing AI's butthole over and over again?

Do you want to finally play the famed Dom4 multiplayer and get rekt in the most hilarious way possible, and comprehend the horrible truth behind REMOVE ELVES, around bats never relax, around birds don't trust their words, and other dank memes?

Just respond to this post. If there's enough interest, I'll host a noob game where you can be what you want to be, and find other losers with no skills that you can kill at your leisure.

>>160915182
I want to apply with an innovative Ermor strategy.

>>160915305
It's gonna be a EA game because EA is easier for newbies. A few deep paths, strong early-game nations etc.

>>160915361
Well then, innovative Xib works for me too.

>>160915478
It's gonna be on Steam, and I know most players in the community, so no more innovative scrub killing for you, Malakal.

>>160915182
Sauro player here.
I'm ready to REMOVE ELVES.

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Do you like my Turn 12 thug?

>>160915540
Fuck off Cirno.

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>>160910314

>>160915587
I bet you're an elf, you elvish piece of shit.

>>160915584
I'm sure China is liking them

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T-thanks, Illfraud...

It's not even my blood vortex.

>>160915584
>fights like 20 spearmen
>dies

nice HP though.

>>160916320
W9N9 m8667ate.

>>160915182
I'd join as helheim (elves).

>>160915182
I'll join as vanheim

Okay, we have enough players, it seems. I'll post a Steam thread in a minute.

>>160912895

Get a torrent for the books, or go to the throves back at tg. I never managed to play Earthdawn, a my players aren't willing to test anything but D&D (sigh) but the worldbuilding is great. I liked in particular the Horror tome and the Blood Wood one, great for stealing stuff.

Ya know, even Blood Magic is an Earthdawn copy-paste!

Still haven't gotten my turn file. No spoilers, please.

>>160917252
you died
sorry

>>160917387
That's misfortune 3 domstrength 2 for you.

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! NEW PLAYER GAME !

http://steamcommunity.com/groups/vanheimageofvidya/discussions/1/154641814595242400/

! NEW PLAYER GAME !

Get in here.

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>>160874094
>Nation restrictions
>Primary Race - Van
>Magic: Mage with access - Blood 1
By the time I returned from opening the blinds and getting the paper, those restrictions gave me the pictured nation. It has the blood magic that I ordered and the Vans. I could probably restrict it to give me a Van nation with earth and death blood mages but it's much quicker to just change the .dm file to fit when things are that specific.

>>160875304
Done. We're starting on Friday so feel free to rejoin if you can make things work.

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>>160914714

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>>160917431

I'm sure it'll go as well as ErmorOP went

>>160917893
ErmorOP wasn't a new player game. And RiseOfThePantokrator went pretty well.

>>160917893
Honestly, I'd rather play with new players than """"experienced"""" once who stale like bitches.

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>>160917431
I'd like to join with an innovative turn extension strategy

>>160918049
You better extend Virgins and have an innovative tart survival strategy ready, fgt.

>>160918021
Have fun with the AIs.

>>160917627
Oh, that's much less than I thought. I fiddled with it and tried genning some stuff as I said, and it just gets stuck on some error like "unable to make primary race" for seemingly ever.

I think it struggles to mix certain races with certain paths. From looking at .txt files, they have magic path weightings and other stuff. Wondering if that's part of the problem in my case.

What .dm things would you change? Just swap over eg "Air 2" on a mage to read as "Death 2", and other basic modding things?

>>160918089
I have more fun with AIs than with Rejakor.

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>>160918083
do you need an extension? I'll gladly give it till after thanksgiving

>>160918132
You burgers are the worst.

Fine.

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>>160918206
learn to love the extensions, extensions are life, extensions are love

In real war you don't get to request extension for thanksgiving.
How unrealistic.

>>160918329
In real war there are no gods ;^)

>>160918354
You've clearly never been in a foxhole.

>>160918475
I've been in other multiple holes though. Didn't see any gods there.

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>>160918113
I'm going to get coffee and think about that error message.

In the .dm file, I'd look for #magicskill and #custommagic. Magic skill is the base path (B1 in this case) and custom magic are their randoms. I'd then change those.

So my B1s currently look this:
>#magicskill 7 1
>#custommagic 19712 100
That's B1 with a 100% chance of +1 in blood, astral, earth, or air.

I want a F1 with 50% of getting +1 to F or W so I change it to this:
>#magicskill 0 1
>#custommagic 640 100

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>>160918525
Oh don't think about the error message too much.
I'm just probably demanding too specific stuff from it in pathing - nothing as simple as what you've got. Especially given that it's random and just has to shove things together until it all works.

Just changing their magic levels manually like that seems like a good way to go. Don't need to make it do *everything* for you, right?

>>160917252
Pretty much the only hope anyone else has of winning at this point is llama cucking you.

Llama cucking people seems to be a theme on the Archaea map. Should just go AI, then you wouldn't have a chance of stalling.

>>160918893
like a month ago i was messaging people and telling them to stop ulm from expanding. it feels good to know theyre going to get their shit pushed in now

>>160918685
I've got a solution to your primary failures.

Go into the data/races folder, open up the race you're generating for, and change the #basechance to something like 10000. That'll cause it to almost exclusively generate that race and you'll hopefully find your stuff much faster.

The massive downside of that is your nation seeds will be meaningless once you change the data files back but whatever.

>>160918893
Wow, spoilers.

Anyways, Hinnom is definitely in this. Even if I've managed to finally surpass him in size, the advantage that being the only blood intensive nation at this stage in the game gives him cannot be overstated. But we've been over that, so I shan't belabor the point.

And any one of the three UW nations is potent enough to tip the balance. Or even have a shot at victory, if they manage to break the uw deadlock.

>>160919080
Really, that helps? Seems like it'd do that automatically or something when you're saying "make me a nation with this."

But yeah, it worked basically immediately. Thanks.

>>160918685
>pic

I really hate how the natgen misuses filters. Instead of forcing a generation that fits the filters, it just generates normally over and over until it gets one that fits. Needless to say a lot of filters can basically make generation impossible.

>>160916348

No reinvig.

>>160918113

That's because adding nation restrictions doesn't change the gen code at all.

It just generates nations and discards them if they don't match what you asked for. Which is why if you want something specific it'll take fucking forever.

>>160919012
Who were you?

>>160919347
The problem is I've had to fight enemies that didn't run dick first into massive turn0 battlefield clear literally 100% of the time (culminating in Ermor's wonderful break seige attempt . . . needlessly ceding the first turn advantage).

>>160919846
Because it's a turn 12 thug, not a turn 36 thug.

Abysia 2h file received
>Agartha Waiting for 2h file
Atlantis 2h file received
Caelum 2h file received
C'tis 2h file received
Gath 2h file received
Jomon 2h file received
Marignon 2h file received
Ragha 2h file received
>R'lyeh Waiting for 2h file
T'ien Ch'i 2h file received
Ulm 2h file received
Utgard 2h file received

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So domg, lets play a game and match dominions players with their true Yu-gi-oh character.

I'll start us off with Malakal being Seto Kaiba - an inflated winrate built by beating scrubs, but would probably lose to any real contender he makes sure to never face.

He's still considered one of the best apparently.

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>>160920617
>running dickfirst at a host of healthy, toned ulmish maidens.
>running dickfirst at a degenerate cannibal giant
Tough choice.

>>160918508
t. moggers

>>160921816
I-Is that a dildo strapped on her back? Or does she just use it as a dildo on her foes?

>>160921993
It's a sword. Paint on mobile sucks.

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>muuch with sidhe slaves
>even the sidhe troop comm and mage are #slaves

FROGS ARE DOMINANT.

This natgen stuff is pretty fun. Just have to fiddle with basechances a bit to get what you really want. Really appreciate this new GUI, even if filters are oddly implemented.
I had to set muuch at 100 and sidhe at 50 to prevent failed restrictions for primary race/'unit of race'

Tecatlan did result in more Sidhe than I desired, which is unfortunate. Dunno if lowering sidhe basechance will make them more or less numerous in-nation? Also the only troop sacred is a Sidhe wyvern guy, which doesn't seem fitting status for a slave, so I need to add a filter to make sure a sacred muuch is present.

Filters used were
Age: MA
Primary Race: Muuch
Unit of Race: Sidhe (Troop)
themes: muuch_themes - advanced, muuch_themes - slaver

Adding in "Sacred: Race" and genning again got me Xayapico, which is cooler.

>>160918525
Are you still allowing Tisor?

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How long have we been at war now, Berry?
I honestly can't remember. Around 30 turns?

Also, does anyone know the situation in South America? And how's that underwater deadlock turning out?

>>160882572
You already know my answer.

>>160867582
What's the purpose of that bless? The boars are still not gonna do anything but tarpit enemy troops, and with as easy as it is to get huge numbers of them, it's not like survivability is all that important.

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>>160923654
South america is split between berry, myself, theo, and ulm who took mictlan's cap.

all is peaceful undera da see

>>160923654
Ulm and Pelagia split south America, with the fish getting more of it from what I can see. Berry still owns Bat capital.

My scouting reports tell me you're basically dead, but I'm sure you've got another thousand fire ants or so to pull out of literally fucking nowhere.

>>160923920
Perhaps he wants to go on a mage-light battle strategy in order to focus on research or something, and hopes that just sending out waves of boars will be sufficient in battle.

>>160924018
Ulm has taken one province (Mictlan), and has ceded all other provinces to pelagia, berytos, and therodos, even clearing some for them.

This is just more disinformation from the ugly giants that are jealous because nobody wants to dick them.

>>160923920
#BOARLIVESMATTER

#EVERYBOARCOUNTS

>>160924314
Even so, B9 would be way better than W9, and I'd argue it in favor of E9 too. And tribless is going to be worse for research than if he just went with more scales and thus more sequani.

>>160924440
You make me imagine a nation with freespawn sacred rioters now.

>>160880430
>>160877168
8^y

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>>160924368
>>160924018
>>160923953
here's a map so we can not worry about diplomatic niceities

>>160924018
>scouting reports tell me you're basically dead
I've been irrelevant for at least 40 turns, and practically dead for over 10 turns.
It won't last much longer, but I'll try to make the most out of my ants and serpents. At least I can go down feeling somewhat pleased over the bullshit I've tried to pull.

>>160924784
Thanks, I don't have a lot of scouting going on anymore.

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>>160917893
We don't fucking talk about ErmorOP

>>160924862
Hey machaka, want more gems? I can send you a bunch of spares to keep your war machine fueled.

>>160923824
The rest of us don't

>>160925646
I'll take anything I can get.

The next person to meaningfully attack Mathosia gets 3000 gold. By meaningful I mean you need to actually fight a battle of decent size or vulture a pair of forts.

Post the proof in this thread and I will send the stuff.

>>160927076
Don't bully Mathosia

>>160927076
t. Itza

>>160926736
Can you steamshitter in chat with me?

>>160927840
To clarify, I'm not who offered you gems.

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>>160910314
It really captures the spirit of our relationship, especially with how we kept accidentally bumping into each other at first.

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>>160927668
t. Mathosia

I'm actually the guy who made Mathosia, how is it doing?

>>160926736
Sent. I think you'll be pleased by what you receive.

>>160927076
>3000 gold in exchange for breaking two forts
Doesn't seem like much of a deal desu.

>>160929604
>Getting 3000 gold in addition to the two forts you were vulturing

I don't see a problem with this.

>>160929774
Hey, if I took two forts I would probably claim the reward. But the gold is not that huge of a benefit compared to the forts you're already getting, which is partially offset by the fact that you must reveal that you've taken the forts to everyone in order to claim the reward, and by the fact that you have no guarantees that he will actually pay.

>>160929930
3000 gold is pretty nice, my dude. A reward like that isn't going to make you attack them if you weren't going to already, but it provides a nice bonus for encouraging a lad to do so sooner.

I will need an extension after this turn until Monday afternoon for thanksgiving weekend. Thanks.

Remember to secure your avenue of retreat

Oceania changes Soon, fellow pretenders

>>160931463
Oh really? When?

>>160931806
uh didnt you here me i said soon???

>>160930941
Remember that this faggot is huge and needs a gangbang.

Ready for the arena?!

>>160936235
AY YOU KNOW THAT I AM

Abysia 2h file received
Agartha 2h file received
Atlantis 2h file received
Caelum 2h file received
C'tis 2h file received
Gath 2h file received
Jomon 2h file received
Marignon 2h file received
Ragha 2h file received
>R'lyeh Waiting for 2h file
T'ien Ch'i 2h file received
Ulm 2h file received
Utgard 2h file received

RILEYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY

>>160931806
That means new ArchaeaLeague game. That means we can end DG. Please hurry.

>>160917431
R E M I N D E R

That we have a noob game recruiting.

>>160938206
Can I join if I have only 11 finished PBEMs?

Anyone know of a good guide on rainbow pretenders? I haven't made one before but I'm making one now.

>>160938527
Fuck off, Nick. Go win something else.

Agartha, don't submit a turn without contacting me please. Or go ahead and stale, that will work for me too. Thanks

>>160938563
Ask nation-specific questions. There's no good universal rainbow pretender design that will work for everything.

>>160938746
I'm in nationgen, I know the specifics like which paths I need. What I'm wondering about is the general stuff. Should a rainbow be imprisoned, dormant, or is it really worth the scales to pay for awake? That kind of thing.

>>160938746
this, desu. Rainbows are designed to get you paths that you're missing and that work well with what you have.

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If R'lyeh stales turn 1, I'm unstarting, kicking him out, and restarting the game, if that's alright with y'all.

>>160938880
Generally you'd want Great Sage awake to bolster early research, the other ones should be dormant, IMO.

>>160938206
I'm not joining a 4chan steam group in order to play a game. Why don't you just recruit here?

>>160938880
With awake you get both early research boost that might help you reach magic goals quickly (for example, t-strike + storm or EQ etc.) and sitesearching. Dormant gives you more points (perhaps for a better bless or scales), Imprisoned is almost never good for rainbow.

"Worth or not" is a nation-specific question as well.

>>160939202
because anonymous games means that experience people can join them.

>>160939202
First of all, the group is not exclusively 4chan.

Second, you might stale like a faggot on turn 1 or join just to meme, thus destroying the entire purpose of the noob game.

Either join the group or contact me on Steam so I could see that you're not one of the people I mentioned.

>>160939275
It's not like accounts prevent smurfing. See: every multiplayer game that takes itself seriously ever.
I've been in two noob games which recruited here and if any of the players wasn't a noob, he was a damn good actor.

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>>160939038
Fine by me, my starting position isn't great anyway.

>>160939420
>smurfing
Literally nobody sane does that.

>>160939579
I might join the next MA noob game as Marignon so that I can post the first win as them.

>>160939420
>>160939803
>buying 2 copies of the game
good goy

>>160939803
In that case I'll be joining the next noob game as Abysia and start a blood megaeconomy as early as possible.

>>160939803
You shouldn't need to join a noob game to do that with summod. Mari's angel buffs make them VERY efficient, potentially even too cheap at the higher end. They just haven't been deployed in a real game yet.

>>160939803
Mari won blitzes, you know. Especially with tribless.

>>160939887
But that's what you already do, Malakal.

>>160939947
quad*bless

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>one of the last giants that doesn't look completely like some mutant
>have a cyclops eye but whatever
>then this happens
>not even a giant anymore
>nobody among your people will ever take you seriously again

>>160938664
Oi, I already commented on the actual steam group tyvm, so not me.
And I have 13 games played (and finished) not 11. Also my handicap was playing Oceania before the summod changes, but looking back on things I figured that was far too much of a handicap.

>>160940150
Isn't he still size 5? That'd make him bigger than the newer generation.

>>160939038
Maybe I can take over, eh? Whatever pretender they ran, can't be any more jank than the awake monolith I've run on R'lyeh before.

>>160940350
It's a noob game. I think it's probably best just to remove the player and restart.

>>160940707
>>160940350
>>160939038
Restart and remove Riley. Then we have an even 12 players

>>160941996
seconded.

>>160938704
marignon, the province number you gave me doesn't exist, get online again you bugger

also degenerate admin: I should be okay on my turn but if I had two extra hours I would feel more comfortable. I had to do a lot of running around today for thanks giving prep

>>160945237
That's a bit too degenerate.

>>160945338
No you see it's a boy, so there's nothing wrong with showing nipples.

>draw a girl
>say its a boy
>post it in an unrelated thread

>>160945237
k, granted

>>160945557
you'll notice the flat chest and the bulge

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>>160945726
thank younI appreciate it

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Anyone know how this happened? The afflictions are nothing serious that should effect health, yet its hp is permanetly 1 at the moment. He's also in friendly dominion, has been for two turns now.

>>160946520
Did anything happen that could cause it to take damage after healing in the turn resolution?

>>160946520
Click on the HP value, see what it lists there?

>>160946732
fucking names

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>>160946641

How do you mean? No event or something. It got killed in battle, immortaled back the cap and was like this.

>>160946732

>>160947241

Weird. Give it a turn, see if it resolves itself?

>>160946520
What are the afflictions?

>>160947241
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Try sending it into battle scripted to retreat, maybe that will cause it to heal back up to full. Probably not though. Enjoy your ritual caster/sitesearcher

>>160947583
It actually should still work fine for expanding/fighting in general given its built in phoenix pyre. It should respawn at full HP.

Arcoscephale 2h file received
Eriu 2h file received
Ermor 2h file received
Ashdod 2h file received
Machaka 2h file received
Man 2h file received
Marignon 2h file received
Pythium 2h file received
Vanarus 2h file received
Sceleria 2h file received
>>>T'ien Ch'i Waiting for 2h file
Vanheim 2h file received
Xibalba 2h file received

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>>160948376
>t'ien Ch'i is the same player as Man in Teaching_Feeling

wake_me_up_inside.png

>>160948485
He staled twice in a row as TC, so...

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>>160948485
>TFW you can't kill yourself because your parents refuse to make you a terracotta army to serve you in the afterlife
Ugh

http://www.llamaserver.net/gameinfo.cgi?game=DriftKing

Can someone see if my ASCII is on point, please?

>>160948996
Also, noob game, pls join.

http://steamcommunity.com/groups/vanheimageofvidya/discussions/1/154641814595242400/

>>160948996
The doors are misaligned

>>160948996
>http://www.llamaserver.net/gameinfo.cgi?game=DriftKing
lookin' sharp

>>160949090
Take a screenshot pls.

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>>160949075
Hello please I am an intermediate player who would like to join as Xibalba with an innovative strategy

>>160949240
Thanks famalam.

And sorry, but this meme was already used today. Do you want to pay $5.99 for Illwinter Coins to renew your daily meme usage?

>>160949371
My uncle is Illwinter plz let join

>>160946520
Summer power gives it increased HP in summer, decreased HP in winter?

>>160949505
That'd show up under max HP and also wouldn't be anywhere near that dramatic.

>>160946520
>>160949505
>>160949621
It's probably diseased. It's a known bug with immortals.

What is the cutest pretender chassis, aside from Hound of Hades?

>>160950191
nazca's condor, the cutest bird

>>160950191
I honestly thought that the Demilich was a bunny when I first saw it. I referred to it as a bunny in my 2nd MP game on account of that.

>>160950298
I like most of the other birds better, desu. Condor's got that weird bald head. Phoenix is a good stork and the Raven of the Underworld and the Macaw are important birds too.

>>160950572
The Macaw's got that beautiful plumage. 10/10 would sexually select for among competing males.

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>>160950298
would hug and cuddle.

>>160949075
What's with all these noob games lately?

>>160951102
All games are literally noob games around here.

>>160950324
There should be a bunny pretender chassis for Man/Eiru

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XcxKIJTb3Hg

>>160951253
Size 1 SC with AN attack? Make it happen.

>>160947525

Yeah already did

>>160947563

Limp and Chest Wound

>>160947583

Imma try to send it into battle and see what happens

>>160948142

Maybe it was a bug with phoenix Pyre, and he'll be alright once he does it again

I'm too new to know of all the Nations and how they work, however so far I'm really liking EA Ulm, so basically I wat to not suck. So is there some approved strategy or general guideline that I should know of while playing it?

>>160951728
It depends. Try shit against the AI until you can hit 12-15 provinces and 1-2 forts in the first year, in addition to your cap. From there, try to figure out what spells will be most beneficial for you to focus on researching. Then try and figure out an endgame that is efficient for your nation and pretender to utilise.

>>160948996
>http://www.llamaserver.net/gameinfo.cgi?game=DriftKing
I just made a game with Riverlands. New map and I'll join.

>>160953185
This is a newbie game, look up the steam thread if you want to join. And the map is up for the discussion.

>>160951969
Honestly, that's a huge ask for an experienced player, much less a newer one.

>>160951728
Okay, so Ulm is great. It's got efficient mages with useful paths and cheap stealthy troops that still hit hard. Your best use of early magic is going to be stuff that buffs up your troops. If you are fighting against an enemy that uses relatively few elite troops, you will want ways to disable them. If you are fighting against an enemy that spams troops - especially C'tis and Sauromatia, which spam skeletons - you will want ways to clear enemies en masse.

The best early game troop buffs for Ulm are Strength of Giants and Legions of Steel cast on Steel Maidens and other dual wielders. Both of these can be cast by any E2 random smith after casting Summon Earthpower. This means that you will want Conjuration 3, Enchantment 3, and Construction 3. If you need more firepower to bring down enemies, you can use Flaming Arrows at Enchantment 4. An F2 smith can cast this after casting Summon Phoenix Power. Because these buffs have a large or battlefield wide Area of Effect, you need only a few mages to have a big impact. Enchantment 5 unlocks Horde of Skeletons, which your D2 shamans can use as well.

For anti-elites, you will find the most useful spells in Alteration. Earth Meld hits a decent area and locks the troops up so that your guys can hit them unopposed. This will be your best spell against elves and similarly hard to hit units. Destruction strips armor off of units, which is great against units with high protection. Alteration also has some buff spells, like Wooden Warriors and eventually Mass Prot and Marble Warriors, as well as Swarm which is great at clogging up enemy armies.

Against enemy hordes, you can eventually use Rain of Stones, but early on you will use Fire and Earth Elementals at conj 5.

After this, you will need to tailor your research based on gem availability and what you're fighting against, but you will find useful spells in most schools.

>>160953306
I am not a noobie, I want to get my third EA win...

>>160953546
Wait for a normal game then.

>>160951969
>It depends. Try shit against the AI until you can hit 12-15 provinces and 1-2 forts in the first year, in addition to your cap.
jesus christ the only way I see myself having 12 provinces in one year is either making some invincible awake war god to conquer provinces alone, or an imprisoned one so i can make my dominion have a billion income and resources.
Also what cap are you referring to?

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OK, I'm confused. I thought there would be a R'lyeh stale by now, since the turn timer is set to 24h and the first turn went out about 25 hours ago. Can someone explain to me what went wrong?
(I will now proceed to kick R'lyeh from the game and restart.)

>>160953747
I may be wrong, but I'm pretty sure that 90% of nations can capture 12 provinces in a year without an awake god.

>>160953747
Those are both acceptable expansion strats for EA Ulm.

There are basically three ways to play Ulm -

Awake expander snowball - get big fast, kill your neighbors, kill their neighbors, win the game before your relatively shallow path access sets you back. This is the easiest to play, but you have to be aggressive all the time and is harder in larger games.

Dormant titan snowball - the same, but you get marginally less big and use an SC to kill your enemy's midgame armies. Your dormant titan can help extend your mage's strength with big paths providing boosters that you don't otherwise have access to (eg - an A4E3 titan, which Ulm can get at a fine price lets you make staves of elemental mastery as well as the two air-specific boosters).

Imprisoned ring nonsense - this is probably the hardest one to use properly, and relies on finding or fighting for an astral indie province to site search. Eventually, you use rings to get full diversity and deeper death access, with tartarians and other endgame options. This is very, very difficult to do well with given that you don't have the early / earlymid strength of the first two options, so I'd only bother with it on a larger map. You still do want to play at least somewhat aggressively to get to a decent size, but you won't feel like a crippled baby if you fail to end the game by Year 5.

>>160953794
The first turn, llamaserver always adds an extra 24 hours in case some people are slow to get their turns in or something.

>>160953920
I never doubted a nation's ability to do it but rather my own

>>160953474
>>160954194
Thanks

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http://www.llamaserver.net/gameinfo.cgi?game=Conjunction

>http://www.llamaserver.net/gameinfo.cgi?game=Conjunction

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>>160953474
>basic expansion strategies, 1-2 forts, and figuring out basic mid game/late game goal is too much for experienced players

stay true to yourself /domg/

>>160955631
No, I'm just saying that it's a big deal, or at least as much of one as exists in Dominions. You're saying to figure out everything about the nation, from expansion to research to end game. That's something that SHOULD be done, but even experienced players talk to each other, try things out, and take a fair bit of time to figure this sort of thing out. It's more or less the entirety of Dominions strategy.

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>>160956031
ah I misunderstood the context, whoops

>>160955625
And so is this a noob game too?