/dsg/ Demon's/Dark Souls General

People that point down after a solid/non-meta/fair duel: what's your story?

I'd just like to know what is going through your head when you do it. Of course you're entitled to use whatever gesture you want after a fight. Hell, if there were a "middle finger" gesture, I'd expect it to get frequent use; but for scummy wins and cheap tactics, not for genuinely enjoyable and good-natured fights.

Are you upset I'm not running a build identical to yours? Are you offended that I actually took away most of your health? Are you legitimately out to passive aggressively rub salt in a wound? Let me know, cause y'all fascinate me.

I won't even disclose the amount of salty mail I've gotten from people that BEAT me (Yes. They won, and felt the need to message me about it). But the content ranges from homophobic epithets, assaults on my integrity as a gamer, and of course unprovoked/unwanted advice on how to play the game "properly."

Seems no matter what weapon/build I run, I am a magnet for this kind of behavior.

And no, my username isn't ISISnazi420blazeit (that was taken unfortunately).

So tell me: what's the real story?

>tfw attemping a no-summon challenge run
Wish me luck, bros.

FIGHT CLUB

POISE

PRISCILA IS A WHORE

weak pars

>he didn't remember who that old lady that gave you the lothric banner and way of blue was

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5T198rMCG18

WASHING POLE

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>>160705037
>he didn't remember who that lady who levels you up and helps you cure your hollowing was

>>160705157

>balanced

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>tfw no demon waifu to invande for
Why must From deny us a demon waifu?

DETAILING

>>160705302
??

The cure for the curse is to unbirth into Gwynevere's sunny pussy

I'm replaying Dark Souls I right now, and it's a bit of a chore. The game is loaded with shit bosses that aren't fun to fight

>Tarus Demon
>Stray Demon
>Capra Demon
>Ceaseless Discharge
>Bed of Chaos
>Demon Firesage
>Seathe the Scaleless
>Centipede Demon

At least in II the bosses are rarely infuriaring or a chore to get through, and III has more all-round quality.

Goddamn this game is dead as fuck on PC. What's a good level range and area to invade in now? Should I just do meta level invasions? Higher?

>>160705461
Ive also noticed now str doesnt increase the damage either
The fuck, From?

>>160705874
I hacked your game.

>>160705828
I invade in the DLC with Aldritch cov equipped at SL120 and it's pretty active.

>>160705950
>Hacking my game
Thats a cursing

>>160704893
Doesn't Bloodborne have much less weapons and weapon categories in exchange for much more varied movesets?

Seems like an unfair thing to compare to me.

>>160704710
Did you find this on reddit? I love it

>>160705981
Figured yeah. Will try on my 120 instead.

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For the new thread!

>>160706063
yes

>>160706063
I really wish someone would autistically count the amount of unique moves every game has

I want to lick Priscilla's soles!

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>>160706063
These are all the weapons in Bloodborne. All of them are as viable as each other with a couple obvious S teirs, that can still be beaten easily because parries are a massive part of the game.


Bloodborne literally has more useable weapons than Dark Souls 3 does. You can take the best 2 weapons of each class in DaS3, and there'd be less weapons than Bloodborne as well as less movesets available.

>>160706417
feet are gross, senpai

>>160706459
>All of them are as viable
Don't force it now anon.

>>160706459
>You can take the best 2 weapons of each class in DaS3,
Why the arbitrary limitation? For an example, almost every single straightsword has different uses in different builds and they're all viable.

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>>160706589
>I only gave my infinite hyper armor it's barely cheating! :^)

>>160706583
I'm talking about movesets specifically.

The only reason broadsword/longsword/shortsword etc etc etc exists is to arbitrarily pad out the weapons.

All the weapons in BB can be converted for use on any build, with PURE ELEMENTAL DAMAGE for mages, giving weapons huge Strength scaling and making them useable despite historically being Skill(dex) weapons.

There's no need for broadsword/longsword etc bullshit in BB. The straight sword that is apart of kirkhammer has all the verticals, horizontals, pokes etc etc that you would ever need and can be made to fit any build you desire.

Dark Souls 3 has more weapons, but you could honestly bubble it down to 15-25 easily.

>>160706589
Is that a cheating red?

y tho

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>>160706459
>All of them are viable

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>>160706589

>>160706943
Yes.

Saif and Saw Spear are on a higher level, to be sure, but nothing stops a mere Tonitrus from 2 shotting them.

There are no bad weapons in the game.

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>>160706459
>gatling gun
>stake driver
I'm intrigued.
Can I make an Armored Core cospoor?
Surely someone has done this

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>>160706917

Why indeed.

Why indeed...

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>>160707125

>>160706223

Why don't you compare it to Friede's Scythe

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>>160707184
>blessed weapon
>black knight shield
>crow quills

>>160706897
>kirkhammer SS mode
>R1s are left and right horizontal slashes
>R2s are singular thrusts

>threaded cane SS mode
>R1s are left and right horizontal slashes
>R2s are singular thrusts

>>160707353
Because that breaks the shitposter's bait

>>160707154
Stake Driver isn't viable.

>>160707371

I've been playing around with crits on that thing since release, currently been playing around with over 90 dex on my SL130 and parry fishing, using chaos blade as my main weapon. Back then I was trying to backstab fish, see if I could get enough damage to one-shot phantoms with a turtlepoke bs.

>>160707353
R1R1R1R1

L2 > R1R1R1R1

Nope. Rakuyo literally is unique in the entire series in that it's attacks change depending on what attacks you performed before another.

It literally plays like a fighting game with combination chains.

He picked that one specifically because it has a metric fucktonne of moveset possibilities.

Shit like

>r1 r1 l2 r2 l2 l2 r1 r2 l2 r1

it's retarded, no other weapon in BB can do this particular thing

you can even do jumping attacks with L2 but ONLY AFTER you have done an L1 previously

>>160707125
>>160707207
DaS3 looks so shit compared to BB

>>160707371
BK shield is legit, anon.

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>>160706897
>The only reason broadsword/longsword/shortsword etc etc etc exists is to arbitrarily pad out the weapons.
What about the irithyll straightsword is arbitrary padding out of the weapon class? Or the darksword? Or the black knight sword? Or Anri's Straight Sword? All of those are different weapons, befitting of different builds.

>All the weapons in BB can be converted for use on any build,
>giving weapons huge Strength scaling and making them useable despite historically being Skill(dex) weapons.
Is that necessarily a good thing? Why does every weapon need to be viable on every build? Doesn't that make the whole thing rather samesy?

>Dark Souls 3 has more weapons, but you could honestly bubble it down to 15-25 easily.
Again, I'm sure you can if you set up arbitrary parameters. I just don't see why you would disregard certain weapons because they're not viable on every single build.

>>160706459
>Fist of Gratia
>Threaded meme
>viable

Top kek

>>160707571
>It literally plays like a fighting game with combination chains.
>BBfag trying to think his game is half as complex as a fighter

>>160707540
Buffed Rapier does more damage for that insidious tactic anyways

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>>160706589
>NPC_miniboss

>>160707571
>Rakooyoo has most individual moves
>People literally only use r1 outside of the odd epic spin
I wish this thing had normal hitboxes instead of washing pole tier ones on most of its moves

>>160707728
uhm, he's not one of those BAD cheaters silly - he's a cool cheater hehe, it's themed :^)

>>160706743

Pretty sure there was something wonky with his stats too, this was on my SL130 dex build with 93 dex, that was a chaos blade and despite wearing what looks like hard leather armor he took probably half the damage I was doing to other people. Plus almost 500 damage was like 5% or less of his health, for an invader. Wouldn't be surprised if he had 99 in all stats or something, if not some other fuckery.

When looking at the recording again I thought maybe he was using iron flesh but he wasn't fat rolling and was able to run too.

>>160706589
>>160706995

>Just pccuck things

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>>160707882

See, it's okay because he's using 2 handed caestus! Ignore that it takes out a third of your life per punch and has infinite hyper armor now, hahahaha!

>>160708136
>>160707882

Cheating is not OK.

Is making a fist build in DaS3 even worth it? I can't seem to get more than 350AR with the Castus no matter how I infuse it or allocate my stats

>>160708194
Um...I'm sorry, could you try to maybe, I dunno,...have fun?

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Cute!!!!

>>160707728
>when she sees your dick

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>>160704710
Heh... You wanna know the real story, kid?

Look.. I been doin' this for a while now.. Invading.. Killing.. Taunting.. There's no better feeling than outplaying your opponent, not only mentally, but physically. First you strip him of his confidence. Then you crush his pride. And.. What comes next.. heh..

That's when you taunt. The fight isn't over until you point down at his lifeless body. You shatter his morality, and twist his emotions until they snap- all with one gesture.

You ever seen a grown man cry? Not out of pain... No. Far, far worse than that. When you see a man shed tears after what he thought could only be done in fiction becomes reality.. then you'll understand. You'll understand my desire to point down.. You'll understand my desire to attack while they bow.. And my desire to embed these moments of misery into them forever.

It's not about being malicious.. It's about making a point.. People like you- people who blindly follow your 'code'.. heh.. You never understand...

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>>160708363

>>160708072

You might be right except then I remember cheaters are pretty rare on PC and can't jumble your stats or get you banned or anything (even if they could that's what you have backup saves for but I've literally never seen it happen any time recently, I think they patched it out early on), they just do silly things like the OP webm guy showed, where you can just run away and not interact with them or worse case scenario, you just die and move on to the next invasion, no big deal.

I'd rather put up with the rare lame cheater if it means I don't have to have half the fucking frames and infinite loading screen works.

>>160708409

Is this new or old copypasta? Either way I'm saving this response for when the "what's your story" guy shows up again.

>>160707184
what is the best sl and weapon level for aldrich invasions brehs?

>>160707725

How? Crow Quills have the same crit modifier but higher damage because of the S scaling instead of A.

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>>160708463
Cute!

>>160707606

I really really wish medium shield parrying wasn't so garbage and small shield blocking wasn't so shitty. Trying to parry with a lothric knight shield is just asking for trouble. Doesn't stop me from trying, but it almost never works out in the end since you're mostly trying to set up parry with it or at least get people to spam due to your blocking.

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>>160709086
Reasons

>>160707610
Because the way weapons are mad in DaS is to arbitrarily pad out things, by locking one unique move onto another weapon that has X locked in stats.

Just the simple fact that backstep R2's, backstep R1's, running R1's and Running R2's, jumping R2's are all unique separate moves in Bloodborne creates a vastly huger amount of movesets than is possible across 5 weapons compared to 1.

Just the Mace portion of Bloodletter has every single DaS3 hammer move contained within itself for fucks sakes.

>>160708701

60 +6 and above, all the way up to SL140 for crusader/bloodshade stuff (even if you don't want to be a part of those, that's where those guys are).

Any place where there's an invasion covenant is good because you have more slots for backup, same with watchdogs at SL20-30 or so. The higher level you go the more likely you are to run into gank squads though, just keep that in mind. Some of us like that.

>>160706897
>the only reason longsword/broadsword/longsword exist
Maybe you're autistic and missed the point that Souls is a single-player rpg kind of franchise first and foremost and despite there not being an immediate need for those separate weapins, they're nice to have for RP, feel and aesthetic purposes.

PvP turbonerds think it's all about the function when the aesthetics and the general 'feel' of the weapons is more important than the *functionality* of it.

https://youtu.be/dB9v-Wo9KoI?t=73

This voice acting oh my god.

>Treasure... hmm. Always so close, yet so far.

>>160709316

I'd need some proof/testing on that because I'm certain you're wrong and crow quills are the best crit weapon in the game. Dex-based, at least. Even then I'm not sure if BKGA or Yhorm's even outclass it on crit damage when you're considering 60+ dex.

>>160709441
arent i going to invade lots of sl 90+ faggots at sl 60?

>>160709505
>PvP turbonerds think it's all about the function when the aesthetics and the general 'feel' of the weapons is more important than the *functionality* of it.

So why are you playing DaS3

Everything in the game feels unsatisfying as fuck, even the sound effects are fucking phoned in

Zweihander is a shadow of it's old self

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>>160709598
Rapier just does more damage than Crow Quills on a critical, okay?

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>>160709732

No, not okay, because you're wrong, rapier-san.

pcfcbf

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>>160709868
Listen here, babe, I've seen the numbers

>>160710031

Where?

>>160709672
First of all it's TSVAIHANDER.
And second of all I think some weapons were improved by DS3. Like the Crescent Axe, Lucerne and axes in general are good now,best they've ever been in fact.

Some of the larger weapons feel a bit weightless compared to 1 though, but every weapon feels a lot better compared to 2 where the metal looked plasticky and the moves were sluggish without having the appropriate weight to them.

DaS1 animations are still the weightiest though. Like a character poking with a Halberd and missing, that stagger looks authentic as fuck.

>>160710031
I accept

Why haven't you donated five dollars to DSP yet? His channel will die, an he won't be able to make content for the new DLC!

>>160710553
>DSP

Who?

>>160710097
PC!
FC!
BF!

WHERE IS HOST BF?

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>>160706589

>>160710713

Phil Burnell

dark souls 3

will silver serpent ring make my run too easy

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What are some of your favorite DEX weapons in 3, /dsg/? I usually always go heavy weapons but this did something different this playthrough. Currently using Sellsword Twinblades and Farron Greatsword. Don't really care about PVP viability, just want something that feels good to use.

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>tfw to intelligent to play Dark Souls 3

>>160710779

>unzips parrying tool

>>160710867

Currently using Crow Quills and Chaos Blade, both have S scaling in dex with good base damage.

>>160709596
I didn't like Siegward's voice acting a lot on my first playthrough, it sounded a little "off" considering he was supposed to be Siegmeyer clone but the whole thing with Patches and so on made me realize how much effort was poured into DS3 and how ultimately the game was a perfect sequel to Dark Souls 1.

There were some things that I didn't like what DS3 did to the lore like *it's an illusion* Ornstein, naked Prince Ricard with the Vape Lord crown and some references made the gameplay shittier like Yhorm was straight up bad because of the way the Stormruler invalidated the entire fight and didn't function as a reference either since outside of the gimmick it's useless.

Dark Souls 3 put in a ton of cheesy fanservice that probably wasn't necessary but fuck it, I'm a fan,consider me serviced.

>>160710949
>kicking off with the front foot
Um

>>160710553
I don't get the appeal of DSP honestly. Why not just watch someone who's not a Thundercunt like ENB or Lobosjr or if you want to go for the normie route, PewDiePie.

>>160710713
A streamer whom /dsg/ bullied in Demon's Souls and Dark Souls. Search "dsp gets scraped" on Youtube. DSP is pretty famous and is one of the normie Souls community pillars.

>>160710553
Too busy watching Rainbowsushi

>>160711723
stop shilling literally whos please

>clusterfuck of invaders, phantoms, aldrichs and even a host near anor londo
>looks to be a free for all
>blue gets summoned
>instead of getting in the fray he black crystals out

Why do people wait hours to get summoned as a blue, but when they do they black crystal out? This is confusing.

>>160710713
https://youtu.be/MhdbOu40vxY

Why didnt From keep Dark magic as a split between physical damage and magic damage? Now its just worse pyromancy because they didnt want to develop an actual spell roster for hexers, unless youre using dark pyromancies.

are people still getting banned?

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What was your first experience fighting him like, /dsg/?

>>160712687
t. Claire is gone

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Quelaag is still objectively best bossfu. If you agree post "Praise Chaos"

>>160709361
>creates a vastly huger amount of movesets
and lack of almost any true combos instantly devalues it

>>160712821
Midling

honestly DaS3 failed to impress me after being done with BB just before it.

Friede I thought would be good but it ended up being Maria rehash and wasted potential on the big guy, who I actually wanted to fight with his flail.

Insult to injury was not being able to get the bowl weapon and made the whip complete shithouse.

Does Dex reduce the casting time of miracles too, in DaS3?

Trying to make a Force aldrich invasion troll build here, fextra says it caps at 50 dex for spells but wondering if that applies to miracles too? If so I'll make a 50 dex character with saint bellvine (I believe that's the fastest casting chime right?).

>>160712821
Being juggled and getting sent sailing majestically off the cliff by the back kick

>invade as purple
>kill host or 1 phantom
>kill both at once
GOTEM

>>160712821
dunked him easy with longsword

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>>160712821
Hype as fuck.

>mfw that shoulder charge

Probably one of the best and fun boss I've fought in any Souls game.

>>160713058
bloodborne's point isn't to stagger people into annoying deaths, it's about larger singular damage

bloodletter mace form does a fucking shitonne of damage, especially the r2's and the running pokes

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>>160713125
don't use force, make a str build with millwood greatbow and axe and just launch people off the cliffs

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>>160706223
>Go to the trouble of making a new faith-scaling, two sided greataxe
>Give it the exact same moveset as every other greataxe except for the Black Knight's, make the faith scaling shit and the WA unusably slow
W h y

>>160713208
>bloodborne's point isn't to stagger people into annoying deaths

Except that's literally the point in PvE.

>>160712776
gj

>>160712014
>ack ack ack
Somwtimes I feel bad for DSP when I remember the video where he gets scraping spear'd but then I actually hear him talk and I don't feel the least bit sorry.

>>160713208
>bloodborne's point isn't to stagger people into annoying deaths, it's about larger singular damage
which also mean that almost entire moveset of a weapon is useless as there's 1-2 vastly superior moves that can be used in any situations

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>>160710743
>Zweihänder will never be as good as it was in DS1
It hurts so much

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>>160713028
PRAISE CHAOS

>>160712516
They only keep the bad ideas from DaS 2, not the good ones.

>>160712821

I hated him because he did a 5000 damage attack that was exactly timed to hit me as I get up but before I could roll
le dark sol is hard

>>160713370
Nope. That's not how it works.

On shitters, sure, R1's are fine for everything, but after a while of playing, that's where all the mixups and backsteps come in, the running r1/r2 being different and the backstep r1/r2 being different throws people off. Combined with good unlocked and locked aiming and you bust turds on shitters who just want to mash r1 with saif or cleaver


The Saw Spear Hunters wearing bone ash in the chalice dungeons showcase the true potential of the movesets very well

>>160713234

You can't really pull that off in post-pontiff, only way you're getting people near ledges is if they're chasing you.

I wanted to make a tanky character with a BK shield and saint's bellvine and some dex weapon, focus on casting that shit as quickly as possible.

I just want to know if the spellcasting speed buff also works on miracles.

>>160713505
You realize that you can delay the time it takes for you to get up slightly right?

>>160713432
TSVAI-HAND-ER.

>>160713626
TSVAI-HÄN-DER

>>160713517
all your fancy shit won't work against any good saif, saw spear or reiter user
and they are only using 2-3 attacks of their weapons at best
most of the weapon attacks are also completely useless in pve as just staggering foes to death with r1s gives the greatest dps and highest safety

>>160713618

Because your first instinct when you see him being about to impale you from above is "hey let's wait that out"

>>160712821
A little let down, but maybe thats because I spoiled myself on him and had heard so much about him before I actually fought him. I think he killed me 3 or 4 times, but he wasnt the hype monster I thought he'd be. If anything, Im just impressed with how damn good a boss he is. Accurate hitboxes, amazing coverage moves, applies great pressure if you try to heal. Dude's got it all, just not enough health or resistances to stop himself from getting trivialized by some builds.
Now Nameless King, THAT was a fucking hardship. Close to a dozen deaths at least. I actually changed my armor and shit to resist him better. He's a little unfair in some regards, but not bullshit. Godly mixups.

>>160713796
How can anyone have trouble with any dark souls 3 boss after demons, dark souls, dark souls 2, and bloodborne

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I just found out that the Firekeeper seems disappointed when doing Patche's slav squat in front of her

>>160713909
>Accroupissement (Pat)

>>160713909
Slavs are pretty disappointing.

>>160713432
I don't remember Shannalotte being that stacked

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>>160713712
you sound stupid

saw spear/reitier/saif are manageable as shitters because they use the same moves

I find it harder to fight the saw spear hunters than I do saw spear players, because they actually use the movesets

those 3 weapons you listed are literally free parries if you know how


of course simply r1'ing shit to death is the best way. That's how they designed these games.

But you can't R1 the crowsteel npc to death, that doesn't work. You have to actually use other moves. That's why shitters cheesed him because he was "inconceivably impossible" to fight properly.

Fromsoft gave all the weapons backstep/running r2's and such for a reason. Not to mention the mixup game, and damage, they often get straight into a shot much quicker after doing them and can chain quickly into regular r1's afterwards

a (((((((good))))))) saif user just plays passively and stands back until you rush them and die

literally even tonitrus can beat these people if you're not shit

>>160713796
>Demon's, Dark Souls, Dark Souls 2, Bloodborne
You realize that out of those, only Bloodborne bosses are really comparable to DS3 bosses? Well,aside from maybe Crystal Sage who's just Fool's Idol 2.0.

>>160714057
>But you can't R1 the crowsteel npc to death, that doesn't work

You literally can R1/L1 him to death, as well as any NPC save for poise Gerhman

>>160714110
If you haven't learned in four games how to assess a bosses moveset and gauge openings to kill it on the first try, you have to be an idiot

>can only kill bosses after dying a dozen times or if you killed a boss exactly like it in a previous game

First second or maybe even third game this is excusable, but come on. Just put your fucking shield up, backpedal until you know all the bosses moves, and go slow until you've got it down. Isn't the purpose of souls game design to make you take it slow and consider your options?

>>160714315
>Isn't the purpose of souls game design to make you take it slow and consider your options?
Bloodborne and DaS3 actively discourage this with spammy enemies that have no poise, and bosses with visceral stagger.

>>160713234

Your post made me wish for actual legendary weapons in the games, like the Claimh Solais

Fucking best weapon in the history of vidya

>>160714315
>Using a shield

Holy fuck the Crow Quill Corvians are so fucking annoying in NG+++++

Their THROWING KNIVES can do 1000+ damage by themselves

>>160714315
>shieldfag thinks he's hardcore
kek

>>160714315
Shields are useless in BB and are only slightly more useful in DS3. Putting up your shield and backpedaling only works in DeS, DaS, and DaS2 where bosses don't have huge combos.

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>>160714057
>bringing npcs into discussion, the pieces of shit with inflated hp and damage values who are only strong because they can kill you in 2 swings
they are strong not because they use movesets, they are strong only because they are damage sponges, scale their damage down to a level of other players and take away infinite ammo of crowsteel and they will be fucking nothing
and even then all npcs can be mashed down just fine

without true combos, without a balance between amount of moves and their viability i can't say that core system of bb is that great at all, a weapon with small amount of more viable moves beats bb's fancy shit easily

>>160714490
y u in NG+++++ tho

>>160714440
It didn't feel this way for me in bloodborne.

>run in aggressive thinking that's the way bloodborne is meant to be played
>took eleven tries to beat gascoigne
>start using my brain, take it slow, just pussyfoot around enemies, only attack when i know it's safe
>clear the game without much trouble
>beat ludwig and orphan on first try

Still got fucked by hot dog though

>>160714490
Iktf
They're already really annoying in NG, but god they're a pain in NG+7 and beyond
Fuck that church with two of them

>>160714561
I thought that making enemies have more health and do more damage while changing absolutely nothing else would be fun

Turns out getting one-shot by an attack that should barely do a sixth of your health is the exact opposite

>>160714578
Bloodborne is weird. On the one hand, the pacing of combat and the Rally mechanic seem to promote aggressive play, but then the game heavily discourages trying to dodge through attacks with its retarded +40% counterhit damage modifier. An attack that would leave you at ~25% health if you facetank it will OHKO you if you fuck up dodge timing, so certain encounters/bosses are actually easier if you just play like a vampire meat wall at times.

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>>160714015
She is not. Red ribbon makes her look more stacked than she really is.

>>160713432
You're right, it will never be that easy to get backstabs off with it ever again and it will never have an infinite combo off a single R1 that's unescapable without toggling out.

>>160714552
The infinite ammo bullshit is the worst. Almost every NPC hunter in BB felt more tedious than actually challenging. ToH did manage to get it right by giving these hunters proper HP and scaling.

>>160713743
>he doesn't tactically delay his roll recovery for those sweet lying invulnerability frames or better placed rolls

>>160714779
>with its retarded +40% counterhit damage modifier

What the fuck? I've played BB for about 40 hours now and I didn't even know this was a thing. No wonder Ludwig fucking raped me at first.

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>>160714779
this is especially evident if you're fighting isz ebrietas
unless you have that charge attack safe spot memorized, it's easier to just tank that shit

>host gets to low HP
>starts sliding around and stops taking damage
Is this a known bug or something? it happens too often to be lagswitching or something obscure like that, and they never DC fully, only come back to "conscious" after a while with full HP

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>>160714779
>>160714920
>>160715023

will i get banned for making my head big

>>160714315
I didnt play a fantasy game to walk through a fog wall, face down a giant horrific beast, and idly dodge it to disect its moveset. I'd rather just literally roll with the punches until I can adapt my playstyle to fit around it, rather than create an entire plan to flawlessly pick apart the boss. Where's the sense of satisfaction and achievement if I play as if I was never going to lose? I've got infinite lives, Im gonna use em.

>>160715136
you're already banned for even considering having fun

>>160715229
oh fug

>>160715165
>playing to lose

Don't you have any sense of immersion in the experience? Why would your character run in like a retard and experience crippling pain over and over when you could just play it smart the first time, use your head like an actual adventurer and overcome a difficult challenge?

or if you're not into that and just see it as a dumb video game, why would you waste so much time fucking up, dying, running back, trying again, dying again repeat when you could just get it right the first time?

10, 20 minutes to kill it the first try instead of hours of wiping

>>160714781
>ywn slowly unlace those stockings and slippers then disappear under her skirt as she sits on the rocks
>Lenigrast will never shout at you from his workshop telling you to stop being so irresponsible and start taking the world seriously
>Chloanne will never fidget and watch you two from her rock, out of view and attention from her dad

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Can anyone set down a summon sign in Demon Souls outside of the Maneaters? I can't melee them quick enough. They keep raping me. SL 39.

>>160715391
Region?

>>160715303
Im the kind of guy who likes to root for the underdogs, even if that underdog is me

>>160715471
US

>>160715542
Sorry.
Can't help, good luck.
Try doing valley

>>160715598
Valley?

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>use a heavy weapon
>if you wait to see if I'm going to do a second or third attack before striking, you'll miss your opportunity to attack safely
>if you don't wait and just hope I was done with my combo, you have a 50/50 chance of me attacking again
ah, truly my favorite kind of boss

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We are going to BUILD A WALL
And we are going to make FARRON pay for it
They are Abyss Watchers, green blossom traffickers, and filthy undeads

Crooked Emma wants to ruin our relationship with Irithyll, but you know, the Pontiff has said some very nice things about me

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>this morning
>dueling at pontiff with my nothing personnel katanas
>i'm on a winning streak killing people left and right
>clear out a whole fc of a dozen people
>land perfect parries
>feel like a complete badass

>log on this evening for some more
>constantly losing
>fucking up parries and getting backstabbed
>getting memed on by greatsword dick swinging faggots

I can't tell if I'm playing worse or if I'm just facing better players at this hour. I'm getting salty though.

How do you deal with losing streaks /dsg/?

>>160715613
Valley of defilement.
I find it to be the easier area to do early on if you can snatch some items and prepare ahead.
Should at least give you levels to help

>>160715391
You can cheese the first one to death through the fog gate with arrows. Alternatively, use the thief ring.

>>160715303
I mean, if you're gonna come with the "immersion" argument you might aswell not be a complete retard about it.

It's entirely immersive to be a stubborn retard just charging into death over and over in the souls series. You're undead and canonically the only thing that keeps you in this world is your will to live and complete your tasks.

Like, you picked the one game where that is an acceptable, entirely immersive playstyle to make that argument. The one series.

>>160715670
WHY IS HE SO FUCKING UGLY
PRISCILLA >>160715646 IS A BEAUTIFULLY CRAFTED PIECE OF ART, WHO WAS OBVIOUSLY CUSTOM MADE TO BE BEAUTIFUL
BUT LOTHRIC LOOKS LIKE HE STILL HAS AFTERBIRTH ALL OVER HIS FACE
WHAT THE FUCK FROM WHY ARE YOU SO INCOMPETENT HOW DID THIS GET PAST QUALITY CONTROL REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
Seriously did they just make a regular person, increase the size, but not upscale their resolutions or something? That shit is just gross to look at.

>>160707606
That's a shopped webm

>>160715362
I'd rather go lift up that dirty whore Chloanne's dress and fuck her right next to her dad's workshop.

>tfw you can force Rosabeth to dress like a total whore based on your whims
Such a shame DaS2 was halfway to great ideas then never fully delivered.
It would've also been interesting if you could give a free choice of armor to a male traveller on the road and they would actually wear it in a fight reminiscent of Ostrava's rescue or a boss tyoe encounter so the gear you give them actually affects their survivability.

>>160715670
>Prince Lothric.
>Gwyndolin.
What is with that family line and producing fuccboi's?

>>160712821
spam r1 with bandit knife

super easy

>>160715934
>Chloanne will never get your rocks off

>>160707125
>downsample 720p to 410p
>look guys, it's looking REAL good!

>Killed Emma and the Dancer before Vordt.
>Still get abducted by her after killing Aldrich.

>>160715795
>each death brings you closer to hallowing
Your character has every lore incentive needed to die as little as possible

>>160715846
he's a frail faggot invalid

why would he be cute? If anything their bad choice was not making him a fat bitch

>>160715131
What even is that thing Orphan of Kos uses during the fight? Some kind of weird disc with explosive bugs sticking to it?

>>160716167
>>each death brings you closer to hallowing
*hollowing and no it doesn't. Losing your purpose in life makes you hollow.
Dying a bunch of times while you're trying to achieve that purpose is quite fucking irrelevant

Im sure this question has been answered a million times, but there will always be new people, and I am one of them:

Playing DS3 with a friend. He accidentally put on the Blue Sentinels covenant, and was pretty much instantly pulled into a game in Road of Sacrifices.

While waiting for him, I put in on, and got nothing. After he came back, he summoned me into his game, and was subject to pretty much constant invasions. He had the Way of the Blue on, but no one got called in to help him, from any color of invader. He also reported seeing maybe one other summon symbol, other than mine.

After he quit following the 5th invasion, I put on the Blue Sentinels and waited, and nothing happened for about 10 minutes, even though it was flashing in the corner.

Internet posts back from April report weird bugs related to auto-summons. The solution was listed as
>make a new account lol!
which is a pain in the ass.

Any thoughts? Is it still a problem?

>>160716304
placenta

What's the best straight sword for a STR build? Dark sword or something else?

>>160716357
broadsword for ar
longsword for poke
darksword for r1 range

>>160716357
>straight sword
>STR build

>>160716329
Oh, we are both ~SL 30

>>160716321
Is that why blacksmiths tend to be some of the most mentally stable individuals in Souls? McDuff being the only loopy one can be explained by him having sat on a box until you brought him fire and gave him work again.

>>160716357

Heavy Dark Sword.

>>160716206
I dont care if hes cute I just want his face to be properly textured. Its like he fucking rolled around in mud before you fought him, or he was trying on mommy's makeup bag before the fight. Who the FUCK thought he looked even remotely passable? Just... EEEUUUGH, and the fact that he is the ONLY character that ever moves their mouth... they wasted that moment on THAT monstrosity.
Miyazaki has lost his touch. He cant even make cute boys anymore. Maybe stop trying to cut corners by using your shitty character creator and actually get people to make key NPCs look good. Friede is another good creation of theirs, how'd they fuck up Lothric so badly?

>>160716438
There are other SLs than 120 anon, maybe he is low level and needs to save points for vig

>>160716438
>Heavy infusion exists
Any weapon class works for a STR build.

Alright, playing demons souls and i've become addicted again.

Looking for build ideas, done a magic build, faith/paladin build, and a quality build. Anyone have any recommendations as for fun builds?

>>160716329
Way of Blue is just broken. Sometimes itll work, sometimes it wont. Really, the online situation of Dark Souls has always been a little hit or miss in some areas. Way of Blue specifically is pretty terrible because there are way more people trying to get summoned than there are people are summoning. Its a massive supply and demand issue.

>>160716329
Auto-summoning for way of blue is notoriously shitty and has been in previous games too. It's not broken, it's just insanely random and sometimes just wont' seem to work.

As for summon signs, which level are you and where did you check? In most areas there's usually 2 or so at the bonfire and 2 near the boss fog as far as I've seen.

>>160716357
Butcher knife

>>160716484
Andre from Dark Souls™: Artorias of the Abyss also moves his mouth in DaS3.

>>160716321
Wasn't that changed in dark souls 2

In dark souls 1 oscar clearly goes hollow because of dying, he knows how close he is to hollowing as well

>>160716695
Oh shit how'd I never notice that then. I suppose the firekeeper hags from DaS2 also move their mouths when you first speak to them. Damn, this is inconsistent.

>>160716463
>can show McDuff flame
>can't show Loli

>>160716438

Havel's G.Shield requires 40 strength, hate me if you want I'm just looking for a lightweight weapon to supplement my tanky troll character using force in aldrich.

Maybe I'll just 2 hand the shield instead if it'd work and piss people off more.

>>160716602

Dozer Axe, min stats to 2 hand, vit gouge, offhand:
Makoto/Storm Ruler/Morion Blade

>>160716720
He goes hollow because he realizes he can't beat the Asylum Demon. He probably tried like a thousand times.

Crestfallen Warrior goes hollow because your exploits give him a false sense of hope, only to be dashed when he can't handle the ghosts in New Londo, so he gives up.

Griggs goes hollow because he gets lost in Sen's Fortress while trying to find Logan, and gives up.

Logan never goes hollow because he's obsessed with Seath's magic and secrets, giving him purpose.

Laurentius gets lost in Blighttown/can't see Quelana, so he gives up.

>>160716463
Supposedly so, ye.

It also explains why most guys go hollow. Certain NPCs go hollow once they've imparted all their spells, like logan I think, others like solaire go hollow once they find what they're looking for, stuff like that.

>>160716907
try millwood battle axe if you have the equip load for it

>>160717112
Solaire and Logan never go hollow, they go insane. Neither of them turns into jerky.

>>160717036
Logan goes hollow after you buy all his spells. You find him in Seaths room, naked and crazy.

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>>160714781

>>160717173
he doesn't go hollow, just crazy. he isn't beef jerky mode when you fight him, unlike everyone else

>>160717173
He does not go hollow, he goes insane. He doesn't turn into a dried up zombie husk like the NPCs who do go hollow, he retains the living human look.

>>160717015
hmm I could see that pretty fun,

I'll give it a shot, thanks fampie

>>160717252
>>160717293
Beef jerky doesn't mean Hollow, there are plenty of Jerky NPCs who are not Hollow.

>>160717112
Logan doesn't go Hollow and neither does Solaire. Solaire and Logan just go regular brand mad.

>>160717252
>>160717293
I'm not sure being hollow has much to do with the beef jerky look. After all, the player can be a beef jerky and still be fine. It just usually comes with it.

>>160717036
Oscar goes hollow because asylum demon killed him

Crestfallen left firelink to get away from the smell of frampt, he goes hollow because he dies to the ghosts

Griggs goes hollow because he dies in sens fortress

Logan goes insane, not hollow

Laurentius goes hollow because he dies in the swamp

Death is what does it. Griggs and laurentius were more likely to lose purpose being imprisoned than when on an actual journey with purpose. They're undead, they know they'll come back. Dying is the reason why people go hollow in dark souls 1

>>160717405
this
Logan just got a case of cabin fever,

>>160717140

Is it worth it over a dark sword even when 1 handing it? Mostly trying to use Force to knock people off ledges with the greatshield to protect me, got 18 att so I have tears as well.

Honestly probably going to at least try to 2 hand the havel's just to fuck with people. Great club might honestly be better just for dealing with ganks.

>>160717403
>there are plenty of Jerky NPCs who are not Hollow.
Sure, and in 2 where jerky is replaced with green skin there's Lenigrast, a rather eloquent fellow.

And yet there are no fully-hollow NPCs (or PCs) who are not jerky/green. Besides, Logan and Solaire have very explicit causes for their insanity, Logan is peering into magical secrets not meant for mortal minds (this is discarded in DaS2 AND DaS3 for some reason) and Solaire has a parasitic bug chewing on his brainstem.

>>160717036
man, just how shit was Oscar? he really needs to git gud

>>160717596
>And yet there are no fully-hollow NPCs (or PCs) who are not jerky/green.
Logan and Soilaire.

You're employing circular logic here. You're trying to say that Logan and Solaire are not hollow because they're not beef jerky, and to prove it you say that beef jerky is required to be hollow because Logan and Solaire aren't hollow.

The most probable explanation is that those dudes are hollow and beef jerky was never a prequisite for being hollow.

>>160717464
>>160717036
It's probably a combination. The death that comes after you lose all hope and purpose is what basically deletes your mind and reduces you to a zombie that runs on instincts.

How would Bloodborne be if it was published by Bandai Namco?

>>160717464
if you go hollow the instant you die, who the fuck uses bonfires? do hollows respawn at them too and we just never see them? I thought the "chosen undead" wasn't actually special at all was just like any other undead as far as abilities went.

>>160717702
Having strong will and purpose keeps your mind alive. Losing purpose slowly bleeds it out. Getting killed takes a chunk out of it

>>160717698
>The most probable explanation is that those dudes are hollow and beef jerky was never a prequisite for being hollow.
Not really, because we're guessing the cause of hollowing here. Solaire and Logan are the only ones with very clear and explicit causes for their insanity, and coincidentally are also the only ones who don't turn into jerky. It fits.

>>160717698
>>160717698
Beef jerky is about lack of humanity, not being hollow

>>160717719
On PC, so significantly better at least graphically.

Why is a cathedral filled with shit? The fuck is this?

>>160717464
Poor Crestfallen. He's pretty sensitive though, Laurentius sits closer to Frampt and doesn't complain about it.

>>160717618
If his cut storyline is anything to go by, he had the self confidence of a tomato. He believed very confidently in the Chosen Undead prophecy, and as soon as he got slammed off the roof, he probably gave up because he thought he was too shit to keep going. Didnt even attempt to get up and try again I guess.

>>160717751
Apparently everyone does and you never see it. The player ghosts you see near bonfires at times hints at this, plus DaS1 and DaS3 make very meta references to bonfire mechanics in-story (Seath trapping you in a cell with a bonfire, and Friede telling you to use the bonfire to warp out of the Painted World) which suggests most people use them and know how they work.

>>160717918
Aldrich sludge.

>When your teammate is a retarded r1 smasher who thinks he can beat 2 greatsword users alone
Why do they even bother

>>160717991
>muh mate

Is there any way to get Cathedral Knight armor with those alternate colors you find in lothric castle?

>>160717918
>>160717969
Also Giant shit, probably
Aldrich confirmed for eating shit

>>160717918
The giants were eating people and pooping them out?
That's also what Aldritch produces in Anor Londo.

>>160717965
Oh, and item descriptions like homeward bone or seek guidance also allude that most undead basically amble around and use bonfires as rest spots they're drawn to like the player.

One assumes that the screen-engulfing flash when you sit down signifies a vague passing of time, during which the various enemies you've killed respawn (as you would) and wander back to their spots.

>>160718057
>anor londo
thanks for the spoilers asshole

>>160718038
No, you're not allowed to have a good looking armor

>>160718038
No
Do you rike it?
They couldve just called it Consumed Knight Armor and made it more resistant to magic, to relate it to Oceiros. But they didnt.>>160718057

>>160717952
>his cut storyline
Hol up.
Do you know more about this?

>>160718142
Oceiros wasn't even originally going to be the boss of that area, Gundyr was. That's why the first knight guarding the elevator door resembles the placement of the red eye knight guarding Doran's room in DeS, why there's Pus Of Man enemies all over the garden, and why Gundyr's armor resembles Doran's armor.

>>160718057
A theory I've heard is that the giants are squishing people with their feet, like people do with grapes
Aldrich confirmed for not being able to chew his food, he is truly worst husbando

>>160717969
>>160718057
But the aldrich sludge in anor londo is blacker isn't this? This is the same colour of shit as the shit swamps in farron.

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what the fuck? I thought I did it correctly

>>160718312
You had to free onionbro or talk to patches beforehand.

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>>160718223
Forgot pic.

>>160718312

Did you go to Irithyll Dungeon's first bonfire before killing a boss after sending Greirat out to Irithyll and talking to Siegmeyer?

>>160718363
>the other weapons you have equipped used to also show up on your player model

why did they take this out

>>160718106
I wish I could say I was sorry but that's what you get for coming into a game's general on 4chan 5 months after the game was released and not specifying you were playing for the first time.

>>160717719
Here:

Gascoigne is the first boss, Cleric Beast doesn't exist in central Yarnham.

Old Yarnham: Djura is cut. Bloodstarved Beast is cut, replaced with Paarl.
Yaharghul sackmen adventure is cut.
Cathedral Ward: Cleric Beast is the boss, Vicar Amelia is cut.
Hemwick was removed and parts of it are now mashed into Old Yarnham.
The path down the side to Amygdala is cut.
Nightmare Frontier is now DLC Pack 1.
Upper Cathedral Ward is cut, Ebrietas is now the final boss of the game after Gehrman (moon presence is cut).
Forest is half the size.
Nightmare of Mensis, giant spiders everywhere now. Micolash cut. Mergo's is the only boss.
Chalice Dungeons are DLC Pack 2.

Old Hunters is DLC3, everything past Maria is cut.

>>160718413
Because from cant into clipping and probably wouldve created a mess of clipping issues if they kept that in

>>160718380

I bought armor and gave it to onionbro

I talked to onionbro by the soup

I did go to dungeon bonfire, but BEFORE I sent greirat out

>>160717859
but Dark Souls 3 is on PC and has worse graphics than Bloodborne because it's a multiplat.

Sure, it has better resolution and framerate, but the graphics themselves (textures, materials, lighting, particles) are worse. Bloodborne being multiplat would've suffered the same cuts that DaS3 did once Xbone and PC versions were introduced.

>>160718413
Is the sword on the back there even a weapon that exists? It could be a scrapped straight sword/greatsword paired weapon for all we know.

>>160718545
guess we can't ever have anything nice, then

>>160718515
>I did go to dungeon bonfire
That's what did it. You can't go there at all before he comes back

>>160718515
Going to Irithyll Dungeon at all makes Siegward move there I think

>>160718441
>making an incredibly short game even shorter
That would be impressive.

>>160718441
Reading this, it's scary thinking about how real that would be.

Some alternate reality, Japan Studio worked with From and Sony funded Demon's Souls 2 (what we know as Dark Souls) and it's a fucking masterpiece.

>>160718515
>I did go to dungeon bonfire
There's your problem.

>>160718705
they'd bloat out the length mind you with lots of copy pasta corridoor sections and things all over the place with shitter enemies. Also abhorrent beast would be a normal enemy in the game they'd just dragon butt all over the place.

I miss dark souls 2

>>160718708
>Dark Souls but post Lord Vessel areas are all just as good as pre-Lord Vessel areas
My heart... it aches...

>>160718708
Dark Souls as it is, is a masterpiece by the series metrics.

>muh Bamco
Doesn't cover the loss of the 6th Archstone.

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>>160718802
it was garbage, anon, there's nothing to miss.

>>160719337

If there's anything DaS2 did the best, that was the CE wizards.

>>160719337
nah, it looked like shit, adaptability shouldn't of been a thing, and neither should of soul memory, but if it wasnt for those 3 things it would have been a 10/10 for me

>>160719337
Dark Souls 2 had the best memes

>>160719478

and deadzones and sloppy movement and limited pivoting and bad scaling and ganks of strong enemies and bad animations. It was bad.

>>160719478
>should of
>shouldn't of

Greatswords cost waaaayyy too less stamina to swing.

will i get banned for having fun

>>160719923
>and deadzones and sloppy movement and limited pivoting
Literally not an issue. There was NOT ONCE a time where I thought to myself while playing "hmm you know what would really help here? If i could turn in a tighter circle. I don't know how someone can complain about something with controls that doesn't affect gameplay at all.

>and bad scaling
Such as?

>and ganks of strong enemies
I don't remember all these ganks everyone seems to talk about. 95% of time there's not more than 2-3 enemies at a time, enemies don't need to be lined up single file line for you. There's only a couple times in the base game where I felt there was too many enemies coming at you at once with no way to avoid it. In the dlc it was worse ill agree on that.

>and bad animations
Not any worse than the other games.

I think Grand Archives is the funnest place to co-op, it's pretty long without shortcuts, it has a variety of enemies, and it makes my cleric with sacred oath and soothing sunlight feel useful.

>>160720334
see
>>160715229

>>160720334
Yes. You're not supposed to have fun in Dark Souls. It's too hardcore for fun. Prepare 2 die bro.

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do your reps

>>160720152
They're also way too fast and do way too much damage.

The best thing to do is just to outrange them with a spear or halberd.

>>160719478
If they would've kept the game actually dark it would've looked so much better because when you have a torch out the shadows look neat as fuck.

The level design was unacceptable for a Souls game though.
One of the few reasons I gave DS2 as much slack that I did, was because I had forgotten DaS1 for a while when I played it.

Souls games generally have levels that work very well with a gameplay purpose BUT FEEL LIKE THEY WERE *REAL* SPACES ONCE. DaS2 doesn't really have that. Dark Souls 2 has too many levels where everything about the area just screams like it was set up to be a videogame level instead of a real location with actual history. Like Bowser's Castle and dumb ballista behind an illusory wall. Or Drangleic Castle where you have to go to the bondage mummy room to get the key to King's passage but there's no other point to the room except being a pointless detour to pad out gameplay time. Or Doors of Pharros with the lockstone bullshit.

Other levels feel okay but the gameplay in them is kinda shit because the level design doesn't make for interesting combat environments. Like Shaded Ruins and Dragon Aerie.

Some levels work decently like Forest of the Fallen Giants both looks setting-appropriate and plays like a real Souls game level. The Lost Bastille was also a good level.

A lot of the levels also mostly or completely lack focal points that contribute to the player's spatial awareness or just look good.

>fight clubs are dead
>this game is dead

i just want to have fcbfs again
i actually, genuinely liked dark souls 3

>>160721295
Fight clubs aren't dead just no on is hosting right now.

>>160721359
>fight clubs aren't dead
wrong

>>160721295
>I liked dark souls 3
Wrong

>>160721295
>>160721359
Why don't you host one and maybe you'll meet your bf there?

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>I'll show you who's boss of this gym.

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>be me, cuck of the darkmoon
>have to grind vertebrae shackles for warmth for the master of pyromancy achievement
>being a mound-maker is 3x as fun and 10x as active of a covenant

>>160721543
I hosted for like 2 or 3 hours early this morning, so they arent dead
Just host one earlier in the hours so people can pop up sooner

To clarify, the game doesn't end when you beat Soul of Cinder, right? Because I've missed a shitload of stuff like the entirety of Arch Dragon Peak and that demon area below the crypt.

can someone help me with old yharnam pass : dsg

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What do you expect from the Switch exclusive From Software is making?

I hope we can actually have fun thanks to Nintendo.

>>160721796
and by not ending I mean it doesn't take you straight to NG+

>>160721796
No it doesn't end. You can even see the ending if you want. Just say no when the credits ask if you want to begin journey 2.

>>160721796
It gives you a prompt, just say no.

>>160721796
it asks you if you want to enter journey 2 first like dark souls 2 does, can't remember if dark souls 1 also did this, i know bloodborne didn't and it pissed me off

Did they ever say why they got rid of lances and twinblades in DS3?

You'd think they would add new weapon classes in a sequel, rather than having less than before. They could've added things like flails.

>>160721874
I hope it's a new Tenchu game 2bh

>>160721938
>>160721982
>>160722002
I suppose level 86 is over-leveled as fuck for both those spots I missed, huh? This is why I unironically like gating, at least gating that can be bypassed with the right knowledge.

What happens if you don't meet the faith requirement of a chime?

I want to cast Force with Saint-tree Bellvine but I only want to get 12 faith for Force, can I do that?

>>160722209
Not for the 2 areas you mentioned. The boss in smoldering lake yeah but he's easy even "at level" the actual area is q nice challenge. Archdragon should be challenging from start to finish.

>>160722319
>force
>force without using a poise boost talisman
For what purpose?

Wait, what determines how much bleed damages someone takes? Is it always a set percentage of maximum HP?

I mean, the Bleed stat on a weapon only shows how much Bleed build-up it does, right? So infusion it with Hollow and raising the Bleed stat from 34 to 41 or whatever only affects the build-up rate, but not how much damage someone will take when the Bleed procs?

>>160722417

I was thinking of potentially going for casting speed instead, not sure which is better yet.

>>160722530
Sage ring my man, otherwise you have to do a dex/int build.

>>160722587

What is the fastest casting time I can get with Force (a miracle)?

can anyone on ps4 help me out with an item transfer? I'll give you anything you want, just need some help.

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>>160722420
Back in DaS1 it was a percentage equal to the bleed aux, so 30 aux would deal 30% max health, or 300 flat to a boss, and 50 aux would be 50% or flat 500 respectively.
Not sure if 3 works the same way, but it probably does since it's the same engine with an astounding amount of code left virtually untouched.

>>160722530
>>160722587
>>160722697
Just use the Witchtree chime, it has a built in Sage Ring effect and the low spellbuff won't make a difference for Force.

>>160722697
Fastest casting time for any and all spells caps out at 40 dex I think. Saint-Tree Belvine would get you to max casting speed on any character, as would Sage Ring +2
Force casts pretty quickly anyways, but you can main-hand a Bellvine and offhand a Canvas or Sunlight Talisman to get max casting speed without sacraficing a ring slot

>>160722697

Also seems like these things just give "virtual dex", right? So might just go with a dex build since I only need 12 faith for Force.

>>160722920

I heard it capped out at 50 dex, but it's fextra so who fucking knows. I'd go to 60 dex for crow quills and chaos blade anyways so I don't think that should be an issue.

>>160720423
Shut up fag, you obviously are retarded because the movement is sloppy. This is an inarguable fact.
>Your sprint barely escapes from enemy jogs, which they can do infinitely while you can't
>Might've just been my controller, but I would randomly not sprint when I press the sprint button. Probably not just my controller, because it works fine on DaS 1 and 3.
Running away from an enemy while locked on does this retarded stall for no reason.
>Lock on is buggy, will randomly turn 180 degree and lock on something behind you, or when you want to lock on something it switches to something next to it
>Attack something, they slide back far enough to be out of reach for shorter weapons. Absolutely stupid.
>Weapon tracking is retarded. Better reset completely before you attack again, otherwise you're just going to attack the same place again, now vacant. This problem is especially noticeable with spears

>>160723068
Eh, 40, 50, hasnt mattered to me since I always use Sage Ring +2. Probably 50 though, 40 is too low.

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>Please wait until all combatants have joined.

Dark Hand should deal more damage with 99 hollowing.

>>160725157
>Add in hollowing stat and gem
>Dont use them for anything meaninful
>Add in luck as a stat
>Dont use it for anything meaningful
What did they mean by this?

ded thread ded gaem

>>160725648
Every game seems to have one bullshit attribute that barely does anything.

>>160722735
How would I ever have imagined that I would miss this nigger so much

Is it just me or are strength builds fucking gimped in DS3?

I have 30 strength and my greathammers all do less damage than an equally upgraded broadsword. What the fuck am I doing wrong

>>160721192
>Dark Souls 2 has too many levels where everything about the area just screams like it was set up to be a videogame level instead of a real location with actual history

you know, now that you put it that way I kinda see what people mean now with how they didn't like the levels.

When people talked about ds2 level design and enemy placement I always looked back at shit like blightown, demon ruins, crystal cave, etc and I think, surely people aren't forgetting those levels. ds2 definitely wasn't that bad in that area when you compare the two.

but the way you've put it is a good argument. ds2 has too many areas that were designed from a video game perspective and ds1 didn't do that.

One thing ds3 did really well was make every area feel real and not forced.