/mhg/ - Monster Hunter General

I must say, 4u is a definite improvement over 3u. Especially when it comes to the npcs, who looks more lively and expressive.

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Reminder that this is /mhg/ and moving to Nintendo was a HUGE mistake and the downfall of the good hunting community we used to have.

3rd for memes

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>>160695473
>14 votes
>this is /mhg/

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>>160695473
>14 people = /mhg/
okay

>>160695473
>/mhg/ existed before tri

>>160695456
4U offline is the best in the series. I wish Generations had the insta skip for text like 4U. Mashing all those speech bubbles away would have been less painful.

>>160695473
>implying furries weren't already part of the monhun community
Have you not seen MH porn by western artists? It's always about the monsters and rarely the sluts.

>>160695602
The /v/ threads were better than anything /mhg/ shit out.

>>160695675
Indeed. Guildmarm is a cutie.

Maybe 5, if it does get made, will top even that? Perhaps have npcs that react to gestures in town and comment about your gear?

>>160695749
We need more sluts.
Thet can even be cute, or chibi, just post more sluts instead of monsters.

>>160696106

>>160695785
then fuck off to /v/ faggot
no one will miss you

>>160695582
>>160695594
>>160695602
>>160695749
Cringed. How can one general be so cucked?

>9 unique posters
KYS LMAO

>>160696265
Why don't you make me tough guy! Or do you want to hug your plushy instead?

>>160696368
i dont even know what you are refering to

>>160696257
It's like they made no update to him since FU.

>>160696368
just fuck off and die already

I'm going through a really tough time right now with my bf I don't need your shit

>>160696257
Get Bio Researcher and an ice weapon. Stay close at all times and hit the hind legs. It's not hard to do my man.

>>160696486
They made him worse, Kush as well.
Chammy's good now though.

>>160696528
Take that shit to your mom then.
She's twice the man you are anyway.

>>160696528
>being gay
>2016

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>>160696528
Go back to the reddit hugbox and don't come back.

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>it's a levels of irony episode

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why no one beside gaijin memer told me about this absolute powerehouse

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>>160696894
>green sharpness IG
absolute nightmare

>>160696987
y doe

>ib4 bounce

you must be absolute retarded if you are bouncing on generations

>>160696486
They made all the Elders shit except Fatalis and Kirin.

You could get Kush to stop his wind shit by making him flinch or breaking his horns, now you can't. Fucker is WORSE because you could use a hammer to flinch him every few hits.

Teo/Luna have always been shit. But that flame head blocking bullets can eat my ass.

Chammy keeps jacking my mega potions. But is probably the best fight now. He was boring as fuck in FU.

>>160697067
It is, IG hits all over the fucking place

>>160696756
>>160696718
>>160696709
all of you fuck off. this is the fucking MH general, I can be gay if I fucking want since most of you are anyway, trump rigged the election and all you fucking shitty little redactors and /pol/acks just back up these shitty little /v/ fuckers who invade here when NO ONE wants them

i'm so fucking angry, don't bother responding to this becuase I won't reply back

>>160697123
no nigger you suck using IG witch is diferent
someone who is atacking a place who bounce is a shiter in first place

>>160697116
fucking this i never kill them in FU so i don know if this shit was ther but tue fact that gunner become compleatly useless when they get their BS aura is complealtly retarded

>>160697245
IG frequently hits parts you don't mean to hit, behind you and stuff

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>>160697116
>Kushala in FU
>Had set patterns in that he would land after specific moves 100% of the time

>Kushala in 4U
>lol fuck you Imma stay in the air forever, hope you brought infinite flash bombs

>>160696894
what is this even

>>160697452
230 atack
3 slots
and a huge green chunck for bludgmemer

>>160697196
>Trump rigged the election
i guess your being gay is just a side effect of having a backwards brain altogether.

>>160696652
Chammy can actually do things other than flop and flail as you fuck up his right leg.

>>160697116
>flame aura
>my arrows magically bounce off hot air

>>160697196
Don't hunt with me or my felynes ever again.

>>160698449
Shut up, Aria!

4U's Chammy was good.
Gen's Chammy is shit.

Literally spams disappear and fly off to a different spot more often now. It's annoying as shit.

>>160697606
>IG that looks like a gun
>thought it was a gun
>just an IG though
no thanks.

also 230 green isn't that good. Assuming you eat AuL, get your drugs and seeds, and got your charmtalons, thats 267.

267 x 1.125 = 300

just do narga IG
180 white with 40% affinity, two slots
217 x 1.32 x 1.1 = 315, and no bouncing

bludgemem is +15

282 x 1.125 = 317

critboost is another 10 point skill
217 x 1.32 x 1.16 = 332, and no bouncing
drop it down to blue cause fuck everything
217 x 1.25 x 1.16 = 314, still little to no bouncing

i mean i guess its alright if you really think one whole slot is going to make all the difference in the world.

>>160698670
Cause Chammy in 4U was g rnak only.

>>160698754
What about village?

>>160698738
>Best looking gun is an IG
Fucking Capcom.

They better have the other GQ Kirin outfit in XX.

>>160698738
i use it cus i manege to fit in blundgemem on dreaking set and i main IG

i think with the narga one you need razor sharp and crit up and well the rath sol meme set to make it work

Best bows for lr, hr, and gr 4u?

Don't fucking say Sergios or Steve.

>>160698927
I like the Red one better, axe head bayonett is sweet.

>>160699254
stevegios

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>everyone has either been banned from online services from ninty or are playing Pokemon sun/moon

Mhgen is dead

>>160698829
g only

>>160699254
>LR
Whatever the fuck you want.
>HR
Get a good pierce or water bow for Gravios and laugh at all the babbies whining about him.
Elemental, blast or bust
>G rank
Elemental, blast or bust

>>160699463
the ban afected every online game?

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>>160699463
I'm just solo hunting because I'm too lazy to get ctr-httpwn working again
someone told me it needs basehax or the like to work now

>>160699463
I want to hunt online but I've got some new shoes coming today and don't want to be an ass and leave in the middle of a hunt.

>>160699496
>whatever you want
So informative.
>Water for Gravios the biggest piece of non elder dragon shit in 4u
I have played FU. I know how to tear this fucker up.
>Elemental
Well, it's good adice at least.

>>160699463
Why would people be banned? Hacking?

>>160700653
the idiots who played the sun/moon leaks online got perma'd from all nintendo services

>>160699795
>I'm too lazy to get ctr-httpwn working again

https://github.com/skiptirengu/ctr-httpwn

Literally all you have to do is replace one folder.

>>160700121
LR is so piss easy you don't need a specific bow, just find what works best for you.
>I have played FU. I know how to tear this fucker up.
Good. You're not a bitch. You fuck bitches.
This is when elemental, blast, and status comes into play, You're going to want armors that compliment bow skills and special coatings. Got a good sleep bow? Status up Bomb boost. Bam. Dead monster.
>Well, it's good advice at least.
Status and Blast will fuck some shit up too. but The bow of meme and faggotry is a dark road.
Lightbreak bow is A-Ok.

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>>160699463
>played like 4 hours with the robot today
>no one else joined

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>>160701445
>the robot doesn't even have a room up right now
Feels awful friend

>>160701176
Even without bomb boost, lbb+ and sleep coatings makes things more manageable. Though I always didnct bother with poison or para since I played solo because it was my only option. Sure, poison fucks up Gravios and Kushy, or at least I still hope they do, but I always got by with just power, c.range, and sleep coatings.
>blast
God, using slime against Ala in 3u was glorious, but outside of that I see it as subpar.

Overall, I value element > status > raw for bows.
Is the dragonwood bow in 4u? That was my absolute favorite for Tigrex killing in FU.

I'm playing solo lately, trying some TAs by myself. I've been blacklisted by someone I don't even recall hunting with and other people haven't been posting rooms, so that dampened my interest in looking for multiplayer hunts too.

>>160701818
He's gone til next week end now.

bow is a bad weapon do not use it.

requires a lot of management to even come close to DPS of other weapons while having anus crit distance with all the risk of blademaster range but having gunner defense. Expect to suck dick without dash juice.

Steve Bow is best bow in 4U for power shot, great raw after honing, and power coating. Even then you need dash juice, and even then you'll be doing sub-relic damage by a factor, and then you'll run out of coatings and be sucking dongs.
It is ironic that the one of the better weapons in 3U and Gen are bows with busted mechanics when the rest of the entire weapontype is sub-garbage to every other weapon.

Bow needs to be entirely redesigned cause it does nothing better than an LBG can do without needing dash juice too. Otherwise it's a noobtrap. Anything less than the best broken bow in these games usually means you'll be doing an eighth of the entire monster's health with 3 other hunters using anything but a bow, making the fight longer than necessary.

>>160702162
4u or gen?

>>160702426
>t. a shitty player who can't into bowing and thinks anything not up to HBG efficiency is worthless

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>>160702550
bow is literally LBG but worse damage, worse status proccing, and no "reloading". If it didn't drain stamina to use it, it would literally be gunner's first weapon cause of how little management it would need otherwise.

If all they did was just remove the stamina drain on charging or make it 75% slower draining, it'd immediately become a better weapon and the true stepping stone into gunner that it's suppose to be. Without that though, you're doing shit damage at shit range dealing shit status ailment and using the fuck out of all your stamina so you can't dodge when it counts - or you're wasting a dash juice that'd be better used on a DB or SA set.

>>160702162
What's your name? I seem to have accidentally kuro'd a bunch of people when I was fucking around with the settings. Didn't even realise until I couldn't enter the robots room and figured it out.

>>160702943
Wow, you really suck at using a bow if you need a dash juice instead of using focus or runner.
And bows do do good damage if you play the game properly instead of mashing your face against the controls like a HBG or DB.

>>160703198
Name a decent bow that isn't steve, memes & dreams, or kelbi.

>wasting a skill on constitution
>betting on kitchen skills
>calls other people bad

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>>160700983
>have to take out sd card and find my micro ds to usb adapter to access it because all the campus networks have the same name and I can never get both devices on the same one
ehhhh

>>160702650
why does this game have to be an 11/10 concept but a broken piece of shit?

>>160703474
>constitution
I said runner, not the skill that lowers stamina cost for evades and blocks.
>betting on kitchen skills
Oy. You are really trying your hardest not to look like a retard, but it's failing.

>>160703659
>Name a decent bow that isn't steve, memes & dreams, or kelbi.

>>160703474
>kelbi
For the last fucking time, kelbi isn't worth shit on its own.

>>160703906
>on its own
Yes a lot of fucking nothing does not much anything good if you literally do not wear armor and a talisman. "Kelbi Set" is that better?
do you not know how to play memebows or something?

all you do is mash X. you don't charge. You get all the blast in and stunlock the monster to hell and back for great clear times. The majority of damage comes from blast proccing.

>>160703905
Any good element bow, since element goes a long fucking way with bows like DS and SnS.
Kelbi bow is shit in 4u, and pretty bad in 3u when not spamming lvl 1s against Alatreon.
Sergios bow is pure physical, and boring as shit.

>>160704178
kelbi bow even with its set worth shit solo yo need 3 other hunters with kelbi set to blow shit up

braachi dual blades or grongigas are 100 times better if you whant to spam meme slime weaponds in 3U obviously, after 3U kelbi bow became ultra shit

>>160704276
ofcourse the kelbi bow is shit in 4U. It was one of the best weapons in 3U though. It's useful against every monster, not just Alatreon you nigger.
There were no broken bows in 4U which is why Steve was the best, and then steve was the best by far. Relic bows were generally awful too thanks to the tables of what coatings paired with which attack/element you could even get. There might be one or two tiers of relic bows that are better than steve (same goes for bowguns) whereas there were probably at least 6 kinds of relic weapons for the other weapon types that were better than craftable. Even then though, the best craftable LBGs and HBGs were still ahead of Steve bow.

Irregardless of whichever game you're talking about, Bow is usually the weakest DPS weapon and saved only by a broken OP bow if the game has one. Bad DPS, stamina management that doesn't correlate with expected damage unlike lance or hammer or dual blades, takes a gorillion status shots to inflict status which could be done in fewer shots from a bowgun, awful range so you're right in the monster's face with gunner defense begging to get knocked hard - and to top it all off it's got the wacky cartoony design philosophy of shooting a handful of arrows at once for most of the available bows, or switching between shot types per bow per level charge.

the shit is all over the place.

>>160704951
I solo'd most of tanzia HR and G-rank with the kelbi set cause i was on the 3DS and no multiplayer and I was getting in excess 5 minute shorter hunts than any other weapon I had or could craft.

It's not bad at all. It was excessively OP and that is a fact, otherwise it wouldn't have gotten nerfed for 4U. I have no clue what you're trying to be autistic about.

>>160705509
>Kelbi bow
>HR
I believe you.

>>160705509
>I solo'd most of tanzia HR and G-rank
>with the kelbi set
>he is so patetic he have to lie on the internet

nigger the only way you can make the kelbi set is until mid end G rank faggot

you nead G black blos horns to max it out and before that its pure shit because only have a S2 shot

and thats leaving behind the obvious fact that you need an armor with awakening whitch is only obteinable after G rank

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>>160705926
>not doing keys to progress, then going back to finish off the majority of the other quests
>most

>>160706090
yeah shure budy

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>>160706182
>m-m-me-memebows aren't that good at all!
>t-t-that didn't happen he's lying!
>BOW IS A GREAT WEAPON TYPE

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>>160705765
>>160705926
I bet you shitters grinded for hours instead of just using the gear you like and want from the start. LMAO!

>>160706475
>not doing keys to progress, then going back to finish off the majority of the other quests

>I was getting in excess 5 minute shorter hunts than any other weapon I had or could craft.

if you are telling the truth by that moment you could max weaponds like brachi DB, uragaan Hanmer or black blos witch outperform by far the kelbi bow solo

so there again you are full of shit
again

>he is so patetic he have to lie on the internet

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Yes hello!

I am about to play 4u for the first time. What weapon should I use??

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>>160706475
I actually had a smug smile on my face reading your comment.
You should know trying so hard only makes you look retarded.

>>160706946
Hunting Horn!

Toot!

Toot!

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About to start my life as a hunter for the first time.
I assume it will be best to start on Generations or is there a new game coming out in the U.S. soon?

>>160706939
black bloss lance*

>>160706946
try several and pick what you like
think for yourself

SOUL'S GUIDE 2 MONSTA HUNNA:
>Great Sword Give Biggest Owies And Forevw Sweepies My Nigga
>If U Jump Off Cliffs At Scawy Munsta N Attack U Mount The Niggas Like I Mount Ur Mom U Dumb White Faggot
>Bows Be Shit
>REAL Niggas Use Hammers N GS

>>160700119
what shoes you getting anon

>>160707164
Nike Jordans with velcro instead of laces

>>160707046
4U is the most beginner friendly and in my opinion, better overall due to several small reasons from performance to how long it takes for a flashbomb to register
if you post rooms here people will join, hold off on generations until xx (the g-rank version coming in march) is localized then get that

>inb4 save transfer
or he could use the money he would spend on gens for 4U instead and get two games worth of content instead of gens and its g version

Where the hell can I fish in the flooded forest?
Been running around for 10 minutes. Just spotted a spot in base camp but no goldenfishes there.

>>160707514
Behind the tent in the spawn

Is Akantor bro here?

>>160707514
Zone 4 I think, the one that has some water on the eastern side. There's a spot there.

>>160703569
OR... you could just use ftpd to effortlessly log in.

>>160707710
Foud it. Ty lad.

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>>160707164
Just regular casual shoes. Nothing special or fancy. They were having a 50% off with code special and I got a couple that weren't already sold out.

I wish they come already though. I've been waiting all day to hunt.

>>160707607
who dat? aria? doug? axel? sundowner? winner? mcswaggins? mike? vanessa? harlot? xandy? beefslam? wich one nigga?

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Hi I'm new, started with Gen
Is pic related an armour set I can get? What's it called?

>>160708228
BODHI, do ya know him?

>>160708289
Faggot Owl

>>160708289
Yes, that's Malfestio and associated armor.

So I decided to use a GS for the first time last night. After I fell asleep, I had dreams of men sucking me off and me 69ing other dudes. I was extremely disturbed but woke up in the morning, everything normal, want to stay in bed for a few minutes because I'm in a cold sweat. My roommate then walks in with two guys, and he says, 'okay, guys, he's asleep' and they all begin passionately making love on his bed like 2 m away.

Everytime I have used DBs, Bow, Lance I have had women literally falling over me, I get rooms full of female huntresses, everything. Now my life feels ruined.

Why do people keep using GS even though it's the literal homoerotic weapon?

>>160708289
how were you not turned away immediately? that's one of the least beginner friendly openings in any game

>>160708289
is malfestio armor
but is really bad thoe

we hope that the G ran vercion gets eny good

>>160708386
neva seen her

u memeing me??

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>>160708475
>>160708587
>malfestio
>not hororohoruru

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>>160706939
>guys i got a faster time with brach DBs against jhen so they are defacto better than kelbi memebow!!!
Or i can just low effort stand constantly just out of reach of an actual monster with broken hitboxes and just stunfuck it with constant attacks, rain or shine, grounded or flying; instead of getting knocked around, wasting time dodging, whiffing, and sharpening.

Wow what a surprise it actually worked.

Also thanks for reminding me of how fucking bad of a game 3U was. We've come a long way in terms of both balanced gamefeel as well as effort-reward ratio. I made my memeset cause i wanted to easily farm the more difficult monsters to make the weapons and sets i thought /really/ wanted, but at some point realized how retarded that was since kelbi was just straight up beating the game for me so what would the point have been with other weapons to just reinject that slower plodding reward ratio on top of more frustration with likely getting hit more often? Here i am giving no monsters a chance and the "goal" was to go back to giving them a chance? I didn't get it. Still don't. Tri was a much better game imo.

Kelbi was the beginning of what has lead to Generations, except now every weapon type is fun to play and you dont need to (and generally cant) stunfuck monsters with blast in order to have a nice short hunt to have a working idea of making the player feel good with reward for their efforts rather than expecting them to have autism and adderall and be okay with 15-20 minute hunts for a chance at a single 10% reward if not no reward cause muh 3 lives system like we're trapped in an arcade from the 80's.

>>160708404
>>160708475
>>160708587

Thanks guys

>>160708580
Not sure what you mean by opening, like the first few quests or you mean the opening cinematic?

>>160709045
Any time faggot.

>>160709045
>faggot

Oh my god how did you know ;))))

What is the set for kelbi bow anyways? Gigginox X right?

>>160708926
>Or i can just low effort stand constantly just out of reach of an actual monster with broken hitboxes and just stunfuck it with constant attacks, rain or shine, grounded or flying; instead of getting knocked around, wasting time dodging, whiffing, and sharpening.

yes the first 5 min because the next 30 minutes you are doing 0 damage hoping for a random blast because the monster resistance build up you retard

and beside that i dont give a shit about your blog

>>160709259
Yes

>>160709336
Never built up enough to matter.

>>160709045
just the entire way it introduces you to the game is soulless and clunky because it expects you played a previous entry and it more of a "best of" title

4U is a better place for beginners, but if you're fine with gen keep going and have fun
after you're done with it I'd suggest looking at older titles like 3U, 4U, or even FU while we all wait patiently for xx to maybe be localized

>>160709515
Well since I just got a 3ds I might give 4U a go and I have a Wii u for 3 but I'm enjoying gen so far, thought I've been playing it whole talking to a friend who has talked about some stuff with me so there's that

>>160709259
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yOLIvp2jbEY

>>160709460
le chibi uguuu so kawaii xDDD :333 *glomps* *kisses*

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>>160709876
it's not even chibi

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>>160709876

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>>160708017
I just ordered a pair of shoes for myself today.
Normally I have just been wearing vans authentics since i was in high school, so going on 10 years and i wanted to try something new
got myself a pair of onisuka tigers serranos

>>160709930
but he's right, it's got glompability

>>160710502
>onitsuka tigers serranos

Damn, I like the look of those. What are you doing to me? Now I have to get a pair of them too.

>died twice to Narga
>broke both his wings when I wasn't trying to
Fine, I give up on playing Switch Axe.

What's a good monster for a noob lancer to practice striker lance with?

Appreciating gen requires you've played other MH games before it, because what it does is give you a condensed, powerful set of skills and movement options that werent present in older MH games- things that MH had needed for a long time to match the feel and expectation that pretty much every other hack-n-slash game has, including other games from Capcom like Devil May Cry and Onimusha.

I enjoy gen tremendously, it is my favorite MH title to date, and that is because I played FU, Tri, 3U, 4U, and generally disliked the experience of esch of them more than i didn't. Don't get me wrong, Gen is still an MH game and therefore a bag of shit while still having some old everpresent series problems as well as some unique to it as a standalone title, but for the first time it actually feels pretty good to play. Rewards and progress come quicker than they did in every previous game, many hunter arts will give you that "IT'S WORKING" feel thanks to an inflated super damaging attack that will more than likely stagger the monster (most of the time the monsters dont react to your attacks), item combination materials are the easiest they've ever been to farm so you can always have your honeys and insects and ammos and mega dash juices, and different styles add new flavor to old weapons among adept dodges being the first time in the series that dodging feels reliable and skillful while also looking cool with immediate positive feedback to the player instead of some evasion+2/3 dodge where - yes, the monster didn't hit you but also the monster just clipped through you instead so what you gained with safety you lost in coherent reasoning.

There are tutorials in gen for brand new players, so its easy enough to start with gen if you wanted. It doesnt have the same or equivalent story progress and cutscene care that 4U had, but since the next immediate game is an expansion to generations you may as well just start with gen. Not a lot of 4U knowledge carries over to gen either.

>>160711429
I haven't used lance in Gen but I always liked fighting Zinogre with the lance in 4u.

>>160711429
Anything, Lance is easy as hell
Maybe not Gravios though

>>160711429
brute wyverns for positioning (brachy is my favorite), *ggis/*dromes for aiming at a moving target, since it's a left handed poker

>>160711572
I will try to high poke its face to death then! I can't think of any attack it has for the enraged guard though.

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>>160710086
>fur
>bone plates
For what purpose

>>160711689
>Gravios
>Striker lance
What?

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>>160701445
>joins room
>Charlotte: I have to go now
>robot leaves
>me and another anon who just joined stood around speechless for a minute

>>160711873
I didn't see the word striker
I like rathian also with lance, beware the windpress

>>160711779
The tail slam and final paw slam are pretty telegraphed. Neither are super strong though.

MH4U G-Rank turns lobby

01-3874-2109-4628

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>>160710524
I don't even know what glomps means

>>160711779
Poke a barrel bomb for enraged guard. You will always get max charge from it. Easy to do in multiplayer, probably harder solo and maybe not worth it, but its better than wasting it against an attack you couldn't block anyways, or some dinky thing that gives you a lesser charge.

One bomb though. You stack bombs and the chain explosions will knock you out of it and waste the art.

>>160711275
get dat silverwind armor nigga

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>>160708792
>my face when gaijins call hororohoruru "malfestio"
>my face when gaijins call dosu-iyosu "iodrome"
>my face when gaijins call oonazuchi "chammy"
>my face when gaijins call raizekkusu "astalos"
>my face when gaijins call doburubukkorosu "duramboros"
>my face when gaijins call shirochinpo "khezu"

>>160712425
Not in Gen though, so it's my first time actually trying to play the weapon without evasion+2 and evade extender. Easy mode tricked me.

>>160712846
>shirochinpo

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>>160711513
I agree with this post in most respects.

What MHGen sacrificed from the legacy of FU, Tri, and 3U, it gained a whole layer of accessibility, QOL, and general fun. Call it casualized, as a vet I enjoy Gen immensely because it's beginning to scratch my DMC itch as well as my MH itch.

>>160712192
glomp means "a very tight hug"

>>160712846
>mfw gaijins call Hapurubokka "Nibelsnarf"

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>>160712846
>shirochinpo

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>>160712846
>Dinovaldo
>already americanized name
>tfw glavenus

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>>160711513
>tfw what amazes this guy taints a big part of what you liked about monhun
different strokes for different folks I guess

also for me pressing one button for a free stagger is magnitudes less satisfying than getting one from a combo
and I despise arpgs like dmc, attacks feel weak as fuck and swarms are a stupid way to balance having infinite cc

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>>160712846
>shirochinpo

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>>160711513
Gen is the best game cause it has prowler mode.

>>160712985
regular narga then, or Kushala X in 4U

evade SA best SA

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>>160714070
prowler mode was surprisingly fun

the fact they're strong as fuck is just a bonus

>>160708926
>we've come a long way in terms of balanced feel and effort-reward ratio

Yeah, it was improving right up until Apex monsters in 4U and it's been steadily declining from there the farther you get into Gen, especially with the deviant species.


>>160709673
>Wii
>Tri

3U is Tri but more of it, just get it on 3DS if you really want to go that route.


>>160711429
Tetsucabra is probably the easiest while still being properly informative.

>>160714206
why weren't narga or barioth in 4U when there was already tigrex?
their gear was there as well, very silly

>>160714136
Later maybe. I'm playing P3rd, and LR narga armor sucks really hard. And why does evade dist require 15 points to activate, that's bullshit.

>>160711513
Playing other MH games before Gen is pretty much why I don't like Gen. This game is full of problems, although the core gameplay mostly isn't one of them. Every other aspect of what makes an MH title good is pretty much flawed in Generations.

>>160713779
I never ever once enjoyed dodging in mh. The i-frames were always miniscule to the point that it never actually felt like every other action game had conditioned me to expect it should feel, compounded by the bloated monster hitboxes resulted in more scenarios than i'm eager to recall where I'd get hit not only while still in the middle of the roll, but also well beyond the range of what should have missed me regardless if I even hadn't rolled.

There isn't a single modern action game i can think of that has either bad hitboxes or a nonworking evasive roll much less both simultaneously, and for that reason I always saw mh as an outlier. Just cause the expectation is different than other games doesn't necessarily mean that it's good.

Dunno how anyone could legitimately like that part of monster hunter the way it was before Gen.

Theres just too many layers there to keep it fun. You roll, you get hit anyway, shouldn't have hit you anyway, gotta go through vulnerable and slow sheathing animation, gotta sit through the vulnerable and slow 5 second potion animation; Like, delegating and wasting valuable armor skills to curbing that with speed eater or evasion+1/2/3 just doesn't feel good and requires more than enough masochistic investment to get to the point you'd know or could craft whichever set might allow you those skills in the first place, which is well beyond any normal entertainmemt/frustration gap most people would be willing to put up with to result in likely dropping the series altogether.

Next they can figure out how to fix the carting system to reward good players without punishing the team and creating a toxic elitism community of angry shitheadd. It is telling that there are built-in ignore and block features on a nintendo-network-wide level for Generations to permanently shitlist other players, even going as far as blocking and ignoring hunters from the previous lobby - but no similar feature for friend requests or sharing guild cards.

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>>160711513
>>160715756

>>160711919
I apologize, I fell asleep. I will be online again soon.

>>160715756
>guy who carts a lot and can't roll shit

Generations' target audience everyone.

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>>160715756
>not enough i-frames
that's the whole point, you're supposed to rely on positioning then learn what to i-frame when you get good, but can build for i-frames if you want
that made the gameplay feel deeper to me instead of being reliant only on good timing
adept spat on that

plus it's both unique AND functional, you sound like you just want everything to be the same as other to cater towards your specific tastes

>you roll and get hit anyways
honestly man, you have all the tools to succeed in front of you but fail because you refuse to use them, instead pining for gameplay of another series

>picking and choosing between utility and dps
dps isn't everything unless you're a speedrunner, there's no shame in taking some utility and if you're bad at the game odds are they'll be getting you better times with that than raw damage

>the cart system
legitimate problem that makes me trust no one

though in conclusion I think you're playing the wrong game for you, but like I said, different strokes for different folks

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Is it bad that I dropped this franchise because I absolutely hated wearing clown suits on late game?

>>160716462
2000 characters man

It's like 15 tweets.

>using twitlonger

>>160716674
Great news, faggot. Generations is the most fullset friendly title in a while.

>>160716674
It's only necessary if you're trying to maximize. I guess deviant armors are a step towards full suits being good armor as-is though they require a good bit of work to get when it's much more manageable to get Silver Sol.

>>160715756
>Next they can figure out how to fix the carting system to reward good players without punishing the team and creating a toxic elitism community of angry shitheadd.
There should be a pool of 3 carts among a team, once you cart after they're used up, you don't respawn and are forced to quit to the lobby or spectate the remaining player(s). This way good players can finish the monster off without being punished for having dumb team mates, and bad players don't get carves.

y/n

>>160716898
I once did a custom quest with someone here where I was forced to spectate after I carted.
It was pretty neat, though I didn't have the option to exit the hunt.

>>160715756
MH's default roll invuln could definitely use a tweak. It feels pretty bad and is not conducive to helping people get into the game

the default playstyle is predictive rather than reactive, which punishes new players for not having enough experience to accurately predict monster attacks and movement.

It would make more sense if the game defaulted to a more neutral style with roll invuln somewhere between what it is currently and evasion+1, and then allow players to tweak their build for to increase from there (or decrease, with some side benefit)

Being able to specifically tailor a build with reduced invuln frames to improve speedrun times ought to tickle the boner of any hardcore player or wannabe elitist faggot just as much or more than having the game be "hard" by default.

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>>160716898
I like it enough, places everyone at risk after the carts as well so there's still a reason not to be a useless fuck
would the players that finish it after all carts are used up get a third of the reward or nothing?

>>160717070
how did that work

>>160717148
>tainting the only game series I have left at it's core
I can live with adept being optional but GET OUT GET OUT GET OUT GET OUUUUUUUUUUUT EVADES SHOULD ONLY BE FOR REPOSITIONING ANYWAYS REEEEEEEE JUST REMOVE I FRAMES REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

though the idea of sacrificing i-frames for damage is neat

>>160717467
I was just laying on the floor unable to do anything besides spin the camera around to watch.
The monster never left the area, so I was able to watch the whole hunt, and not lay there while everyone moved to a different area.

>>160715756
What's wrong with rolling out of the way?
If a car in the street in about to roll over you you don't instinctivly think "oh maybe I can roll under it and avoid the wheels" you just get the fuck away.

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>>160716725
>>160716836

Well fuck me

I actually dropped it on 4U and was thinking on getting Generations Until I heard it didn't have G-Rank and the Hunter Arts eased up the game a lot

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>>160717726
pick up xx when localized, hunter art are optional but you just feel like you're gimping yourself by not using them
it's like masturbating to porn you don't really like but your dick demands release
I almost used a food analogy, I think this was the better choice

>>160716898
The problem is then if some faggot carts 3 times and I make a mistake at some point and cart and the faggot finishes off the mon after I did most of the work, that'd piss me off to no end.

Maybe there could be a point system after the hunt. Like how much damage dealt, how many buffs and heals given to teammates, a decrease in points for every cart. Then the players that do the best get the most rewards and the slackers the least. That could potentially solve carrying.

>>160717996
It would also tell people how shit they were which would help some get better
Damage numbers like in mho are also a good tool for this, but I would prefer those stayed away

>>160716581
I bet anyone could evebtually figure out and consistently nail dodging with garbage iframes if that was all it took to beat the monster. I can do pixel perfect "dodging" in touhou for hours but you translate that to a 3D environment with different angles of attack, different heights, slopes, monster sizes, variably shit framerate, on top of sacrificing a large amount of evasion time for anything that isnt SnS or Bow or LBG to figure when you actually can evade between your vulnerable attacks and combos; and what you get is a slow turtling pokefest always wary of overextending yourself and rarely using many of your stronger attacks. Its a way to play sure but i dont think it works in MH.

Like there are no i-frames in real life, i could completely acceot and adjust to that rolling system if that was the only thing - but when you're also fighting against erratically designed hitboxes and attack parameters that greatly extend past their animation's momentum or model's dimensions it seems like if you're going to be cutting corners like that, a more liberal dodge is the base requirement. Like everyone learned to accept that ryu can spam fireballs in street fighter 2 and still make a game out of it, but if you couldn't jump over ryu's fireballs cause a bloated hitbox then that game would have been considered some whack ass retarded as fuck shit and never had been the popular game it was.

Again though, its layers of issues that pile up and magnify the negative effect like stacking lenses in a telescope. No iframes wouldnt be so bad if better hitboxes, wouldn't be so bad if healing wasnt a time investment of even more vulnerability, wouldn't be so bad if you didn't have limited life chances, etc.

Anyway that shit is basically dead and gone for me since i largely play Adept in gen so i'm well and catered for. Hope you realize Brave will invent more shitters though. It's basically the hold-to-dodge-everything button from that Matrix game.

>>160718402
It just sounds like you're shit and playing the wrong game.

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>>160718402
I hate saying this, but god damn, you're just hopeless and want this game to be something it's not just so it fits your taste

fuck you, honestly

>>160718683
Sounds like you're an eletist turd jerkoff.

I call shit how it is, and you gotta know a lot to know when shit is shit.

Fortunately i didn't grow up the middle child of an impoverished family where Monster Hunter might have been the only action game I ever knew, if not the only video game altogether.

I would rather be playing more phantasy star games but sega abandoned the handheld market and PSO2 is bad.

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>>160718964

>>160718867
Yeah, i want it to be good.

I want it to take more than savant autism or a dose of adderall just to make progress in it, and i'd like it if werent buggy as shit with terrible netcode that doesn't even track small monsters or mining points.

I'm sorry you want MH to be shit and bad, but Capcom has to live up to their role of stealing the spotlight from Phantasy Star and advance that 4-player cooperative gameplay.

In reality, you're the one who wants MH to be something it isn't. Newsflash, Gen exists. Newsflash, Gen is getting an expansion.

Fucker.

>>160718964
>I don't understand how to avoid attacks and therefore the game is shit
>every game should let you dodge through attacks with ease so you don't even have to think about positioning
11/10
you had be genuinely upset, how do you have the willpower to put such a subtle anger into your walls of text

It's a bit sad that you'd put that much effort into shitposting but I'm impressed none-the-less
you should be a writer, honestly, that mastery of tone would be fantastic when writing character dialogue

>>160719246
You're the one who's shit and bad and blame the game for you own faults.
Just move on and go back to playing dark souls or something.

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>>160719690

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>>160720046
lewd

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>>160719246
Different anon here but doesn't
>In reality, you're the one who wants MH to be something it isn't.
contradict your argument?

>>160719267
Man.

MH isnt like a fighting game or other action oriented game where things like positioning truly matter in terms of evasion. If my attacking stunned the monster, then i wouldnt have to worry about my vulnerability after attacks. What kind of fighting game would be where you and your opponent just mashed buttons at each other attacking through each others attacks until hitting invisible stagger limits where one or the other might be able to get some more hits in - or more aptly what if only your character didnt cause hitstun but everything the opponent threw at you did. I'm fairly sure almost every big boss in Capcom Vs. fighting games play exactly like that, actually - and its not very fun. Or those two big fuckers in TvC, or great apes in Tenkaichi Budokai. That shit just ain't fun and that is exactly how shallow the monster battles in MH are. So whatever, you toss that aside who cares - its a type of play, but those Vs. bosses also arent 10-15 minute battles of endurance, and at least you can block when they attack which you're fucked for in MH when you pick any weapon that doesn't have a shield to force you into relying on dodging.

So you either need autism to figure that precise moment of shit iframes where you can get by an attack, or you'll get lucky, or you're getting hit. I can have all the spatial awareness i want in MH but it rarely helps me as much as it ever did in fighting games where positioning actually matters. I'm 400 hours on Gen and only hust yesterday planted a bomb, chased a monster around for 2 minutes, hit the bomb which staggered it into falling back into a trap I'd placed 5 minutes before ALL ACCORDING TO KEIKAKU and despite how good that felt, how that positioning reminded me of DoA or VF or Tekken, it happened and was gone in a single moment over the course of 400 hours of play, totally reliant on the IF that stagger would even have happened. "repositioning" just to hit a different hitzone is braindead.

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>>160721129
damn nigga calm down

Holy fuk just started playing abiut a week ago, where do i get flame sacs? Im on mh4u too, at the beach area

>>160721654
Rathian I think

>>160721654
Rathalos/Rathian
here's a good site to look up any materials you don't know where to find
http://kiranico.com/en/mh4u

>>160721129
>solution to lack of i-frames is positioning
>positioning is not important in monster hunter
damn son how id you get me again
>relying on timing alone is more braindead than relying on positioning AND timing

I swear, how you feign sincerity is wonderous, maybe I'm jsut tired and vulnerable right now but good work
although its a terrible thing you're doing, messing with people and all that
and I'm honestly not kidding about that writing thing, if you're in college currently I'd sign up for a creative writing class for some extra credits or maybe submit something to a writing contest

>>160721129
You're just bad at mh.
I'm sad gen atracting shitters like you inst only a meme.

Why is the Grand Mizuha set so poular in 4U?

>>160722236
Check its skills. Also it's the highest defense set with actual good skills that you can be carried through right when you hit G Rank.

>>160722236
>wind res high
>hg earplugs
>prime for s+1, especially when mixed
>status user's wet dream
and last but not least
>blademaster armor values that can be used on gunner

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>>160721129
>MH isnt like a fighting game or other action oriented game where things like positioning truly matter in terms of evasion.

Excuse me but have you never been in a fist fight before? Positioning is an important part of any kind of fight - especially in melee range. The only thing better than blocking or dodging a strike is not being there to have to block or dodge it in the first place.

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>>160721746
Yea i read the thing but ive been looking through the quests and havent found any rathians, am i doing something wrong

>>160723308
she'll appear near the end of the cheeko sands questline

>>160721129
how do people get so worked up over shit like this

>MH isnt like a fighting game or other action oriented game where things like positioning truly matter in terms of evasion
yes it is. stop trying to brute force some complicated explanation that no one can barely fucking understand. if a monster has X tell, that means it's going to do Y attack, which means I have to quickly get to Z position if I want to avoid it

>So you either need autism to figure that precise moment of shit iframes where you can get by an attack, or you'll get lucky, or you're getting hit
or you can just think to yourself, hmm, I've played this monster long enough to realize if I do this action, I'm probably going to get punished. like, if keep standing in front of a monster's head and spamming sword mode on a switch axe, that's probably not going to end well. this shit isn't complicated, though good job on making it look like it is

>>160723437
Alright ill check it out, thanks

>>160723464
He almost had me thinking his argument was stable till that shit about positioning

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>>160721872
>t-they're going back to no adept dodges r-right????

>>160712216
>Poke a barrel bomb for enraged guard
>395 raw every time

Holy shit. How is this allowed?

>>160723104
I've never been in a fist fight where the other guy had retarded hitboxes and my punches phased right through him.

>>160723996
which attacks got ya down, friend

>>160723996
>I've never been in a fist fight where the other guy had retarded hitboxes and my punches phased right through him.

What monster are you talking about? I'm struggling to think of one that attacks just"phase through", though I will concede that sometimes the hitboxes are weird.

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>almost 500 hours played
>still only 4 hearts

>>160717726
Wait and see if XX gets localized or something, though that would still be a good while off.

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I played through mh1 on my psp until it started sucking.
Now I'm on Mhfu and it sucks too.

What do I play now?

>>160721843
>solution to lack of i-frames is positioning
>solution to positioning is exaggerated hitboxes
It's like you're a sadist or haven't figured that the cards are generally stacked against you in MH.

Also the solution to a lack of iframes isnt positioning, it's high framerate and decently accurate hurtboxes related to the monster's mesh model. That way you can accurately consistently gauge when to dodge an attack instead of getting hit either sooner or later than expected, or you're going full silverwindmode and getting Evasion+ and Evade Dist+ while pretending to have even more knowledge of evasion than even your average Adept user while you're literally playing on easy mode. But that isn't what MH is all about. They want it to be challenging and you're not being challenged if you can dodge through everything consistently for free without the effort playtime to craft the gear that has the skills. You dont even get that with Adept thanks to the anime run which leaves you open for the occassional followup.

So what the heck value does the word "positioining" have in Minster Hunter outside of hitting a different hitzone, when 4 outta 5 times you're getting hit by the monster even though you saw the attack coming, even though you evaded, even though you weren't even touching the monster when the attack connected.

Monster AI is erratic, switches targets even mid attack, can be interrupted, can spam a single move multiple times, and is generally unpredictable, and thats even before the occassion you eat a fullscreen fireball or beam intended for one of your unpredictable teammates that hust happened to run in front of you while using an item.

Like i'd appreciate some conversation here from the viewpoint that you're willing to admit you might have a slight case of the tisms and that this concept of superplay you think you're vouching for doesn't actually exist, at least in the bad framerate recent mainline games on 3DS.

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>>160725919
4U, 3U, and or xx when it's localized
avoid generations as it's a waste of your money now that a g-rank version has been announced

If you want a taste of third gen monhun and beyond without picking up a 3ds (if you don't already have one), try emulating portable 3rd with ppsspp
instructions should be in the pastebin

>>160725919
you stfu and gtfo like how everyone else wants you to

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>>160723924
>maxin 390 raw
>maxin repeat offender and crit boost
>maxin 546 crits
>maxin striker dash thrust 70MV cause someone at capcom thought this was fair
>doin lv.3 GS charge damage every single second
I love how OP lance is in generations

>>160726749
both it and gunlace will be nerfed come fifth gen most likely

Done with randoms. Tried the triple hyper tetsu, one 240 fucking quad carted. Is a room up?
I just want my bludgeoner

>>160726749
>>160727137
I'm glad the charge attack is more useful for damage reasons at least, though it definitely could use a reasonable damage reduction.

>>160725931
Is it autism that drives you? goddamn

>It's like you're a sadist or haven't figured that the cards are generally stacked against you in MH.
Well no fucking shit sherlock, I expect the cards to be stacked against me the minute I know I'm fighting big ass dragons with my dinkly little fucking sword

what the fuck are you even trying to say here? if you know a hitbox is exaggerated, then learn how to position yourself so you aren't standing in it. the game's not that unforgiving. this is basic fucking learning in a video game - if I know something bad happens when I stand in a certain spot, regardless of the graphical cue, I can still fucking know not to stand in that spot.

>Monster AI is erratic, switches targets even mid attack, can be interrupted, can spam a single move multiple times, and is generally unpredictable, and thats even before the occassion you eat a fullscreen fireball or beam intended for one of your unpredictable teammates that hust happened to run in front of you while using an item.
>teammates
and now you've played the shitter card

but seriously, learning patterns and timing in attacks is what you have to do in any video game. and if the monster is truly 'erratic' (which really only is less than 10% of all monsters, garuga and some of the raths) if you haven't learned to do this in your 400 hours of gen because you've hogged adept and been rewarded for playing badly, then you really have no right to comment on any of this

and just to hammer it home - super play does not exist, and nobody outside of the exaggerating elitists of the MH community has said otherwise. you're just bad. and the way you keep playing will make your skills worse. so it's fine for you to bitch about how hard it is to manage i frames and positioning, because you're a bad player and really it doesn't seem like anyone should expect any better of you, but don't blame the game for how shit you are

tl;dr git gud

>>160727205
/mhg/ doesn't make rooms anymore

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>>160727137
>And gunlance
Of fucking course.

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>>160727137
>gunlance will be nerfed
when will it ever stop

first they took out rapid fire shelling from FU, then they straight up reduced our damage in 4U, then they added the heat gauge in Gen

what are they going to do next? just take out wyvern fire?

>>160727613
Fine. I'll make a room. If you wanna suffer against three niggered up tetsucabras, join me

Its called /mhg/ or smthn, standard procedure

i never play gen 2 games before
how was gimick weaponds like hunting horn, gun lance and bow back then?

i know long swords were OP as fuck

>>160727963
Wyvern Fire is kind of on the weak side already, the meter lock on the heat gauge is one of few things still going for it but I'm not a fan on how it sets back the meter too. They kind of need to do more damage, alongside pokes that is.

>>160728110
Give me a sec.

>>160728321
Thank mane

>>160728261
Hunting Horn was far worse than it ever would be in later iterations.

>>160728478
why?

>>160727963
yep. they'll also remove full burst too

then, in 6th gen, they'll get rid of shelling altogether and just make it a much weaker lance combined with an LBG (sans rapid fire and any useful ammo), but they'll keep heat

in 7th gen, they'll make it so you can only fire shots from the lance only in the red part of the heat gauge, also it'll lose out on all damage bonuses

in 8th gen, 10 animation frames and a ton of particle effects will be added to each attack to make it slow as fuck and lag the game hard. they'll also add a monster that utilizes a 'gun lance' similar to how gurupeco uses a 'hunting horn' to show they "still care" but they'll make it a pathetically easy monster that runs away a lot, has retarded hatboxes that throw you across the map but do barely any damage, give it a shitty theme and a frontier design

in 9th gen it'll put a black sticker on your guild card if you craft a gun lance or use it on more than 3 hunts and you can only play with others who have black stickers. cap com will then pay a bunch of people to buy the game, intentionally get the black stickers, go online and intentionally fuck up and play bad

in 10th gen trump will make holocausting everybody who's ever used a gun lance before his campaign promise for his 17th consecutive term as president

in 11th gen amnesiacs will be secretly widespread and distributed all over the world to make people forget the gun lance ever existed

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>>160728628
>low damage attacks that send you flying

>>160728628
>remove full burst
>remove shelling
honestly, the way things are going, this will probably soon become reality

>>160711513
So....frontier?

>>160728261
Hunting horn dealt shit damage, and using the buffs was a chore because you could only play notes in a separate recital mode that made you slow as hell,
and if you left that mode all your notes would get erased and you'd have to start over.

Gunlances were okay because lance wasn't much better.

Bows were pretty good with the increased mobility compared to bowguns.

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>>160728587
>p3rd, 3U, 4U, Gen
>each swing plays a note
>notes are stored until they are replaced by note overflow, or played
>play songs with slow derpy-ass nearly useless gimmick retard anime swings, but at least they're on command when convenient for you
>can encore from same note buildup by just doing a second derpy-ass swing after the first performance
>double upswing lets you play two notes on single attack
>Gen double notes let you refresh multiple buffs simultaneously

HH works okay even if the swings have shit startup and recovery and sometimes weird fucking hitboxes. Rock on.

>FU
>regular attacks are just attacks, no notes performed
>have to use slow derpy-ass etc etc recital swings to play individual notes one swing at a time
>notes are not stored, whole song has to be played as a single combo, one attack/note at a time, uninterrupted
>encore/refresh requires you to play the whole song again

HH is complete shit, suicide preferred.

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Should I put work into becoming Jagi?

>>160730130
Additionally, gen3+ HH stored notes are highlighted once you have queued up a viable song, so even if you didn't immediately know what it did you knew it would do SOMETHING when you spent them with a Recital attack.

In gen2 you had to basically memorize any and all useful note combos on each fucking horn you used right from the word go or eat shit experimenting and/or constantly referencing your note page.

Why do people compare current weapon features to 10 year old ones?

>>160731152
To see how the weapon meta has changed.

>>160731152
because i ask

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Should Gunlance be more closer to Lance or be more of its own thing?

>>160731345
>>160731361
If it's for the changes then why all the negative hindsight?

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>>160731373
gunlance should be given a double side/backhop
gunlance should be given more moves that cater to long/wide rather than to normal like everything in Gen
gunlance should be given a faster way to reload looks like my dreams are gonna come true with braves style though

gunlance should just be made stronger and less clunky in general

i will use it regardless because it is my one true love

>>160731814
Because it just wasn't good back then and is much improved now? What are you trying to say?

>>160731373
It's own thing. They should remove poking and have it be 100% shelling.

>>160731961
Gunlance shells should do primarily element damage + a bit of untyped instead of primarily untyped + fire.

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>some akantor weapons have green sharpness
>others have yellow
>some weapons don't even get akantor
What was their master plan here?

>>160732336
i would be fine if shells did more damage with the tradeoff being they do almost entirely element damage + some untyped, and untyped if your GL has no element

What if instead of shells the gunlance fired fists so they could just be a motion value

>>160732427
>shot types no longer have levels
>just normal mvs plus element proc
yay/nay

>>160732014
It wasn't shit 10 years ago. It built the foundation of the weapon today. Even Frontier's version.

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don't let the bed-bnahabra bite, /mhg/

>>160732674
does frontier still working with resital mode?

>>160732674
>It wasn't shit 10 years
I beg to differ. Playing songs was a tedious and slow chore that required the monster to not be on your ass every 4 seconds and the buffs and songs were just simply not as good as nowadays.

>built the foundation
Doesn't make it good back then. They had to completely shift the foundation in order to make it a properly usable weapon

>>160732935
It is, but overall it's much faster with the ability to attack and then shift right into a note based on the attack that pretty much front loads the note playing.
Then on top of a skill that speed up the note playing as well.

And now debuff songs.

>>160732553
Honestly, that could work. Change Wyvernsfire into an elemental attack. A non element gunlance could just true damage + a very small amount of blast.

>>160694978
So I just soloed White Fatalis.

Are his attacks supposed to be this weak? His HP pool was definitely G-Rank but it felt like his damage output was HR level

>love the style of IG attacks grounded, don't worry
>honestly hate the kinsect mechanic
Its not even a big deal, I just can't stand constantly refreshing this shit

I know balanced bug was nerfed to hell, but how much extra time does it actually add to your extracts?
I might actually use it over 20% bonus affinty just for the comfort

>>160733050
It's funny how long it took to make HH a debuff weapon.

>>160732553
Pure damage still won't hurt, provided there's some scaling to help make it useful at all levels. I was thinking that it could adopt some normally Gunner exclusive mechanics in some form. Like either:

>Weapon determines pure/element shell/WF balance; modify your Gunlance to use either Normal, Long, or Wide shot types at the smithy
>Swap between built-in pure/element shells/WF like Gunner ammo; what elemental shells available are dependent on the weapon

Who wants to join a gen turns lobby? 2/4 slots filled so far.

>>160735667
post code

>>160736404
17-5321-4703-9725

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>>160736552
These cucks in this lobby are absolute shitters. The ONLY reason I am staying is because I am bored otherwise I would put you faggots on the blacklist. Are you fucking serious with these meme sets? KYS

>>160732674
>HH wasn't shit 10 years ago

It absolutely was, and was regarded as shit even then. There was never a point where it retroactively became shit because it always was, right up until P3rd mostly redeemed it with the mechanics still in use today.

>Frontier anything

Get this shit out of here.


>>160733723
Balanced bug only adds time to Triple Up, and it's only +50%. It really is suffering coming from 4U's extender with double everything and feeling reasonable.

>>160736792
Literally kill yourself right now you stupid cuck. I can't believe your gay dumb ignorant RUDE ass is fucking talking to me like that. You can go slit your faggy limp wrists in your closet you retarded cuckfag. KILL YOURSELF

>>160736552
original guy who asked here. I'll be in after this quest.

>>160736925
don't bother it's full

>>160736975
Please shitpost elsewhere.

>>160736692
So how bad is it

Yo /vg/, Blanche here. I'm really fucked up on poppers but I'm about to make a lobby. Yes I am still on my XL Bad Dragon kick

>Final boss in XX is a QTE

>>160736692
(You)

>>160728261
Gen 2 MH was pretty much the GS and Hammer show.

They should just get the Frontier team to do weapon balance for main line desu. Weapons are pretty much the only good thing Frontier has going for it.

>>160738051
Fuck no
Frontier GS, SA and Hammer are actually just game breaking

>tfw always feel the need to go for lv3 GS charges
Help.

>>160738135
How bad does it get?

>>160737965
i get GS because every MH is GS show at the end
but why Hammer? i mean comparing with hammer now witch seams to be a shadow of his past

>>160738398
GS has hyper armor while charging, can roll out of a charge, has a lv4 charge with 180x130% MV
Hammer's Lv5 charge has a combined motion value of around 270 and can KO endgame monsters in about 2 hits, and can sprint while charging, though you have to release charges exactly when they flash here
SA can guard, even mid combo, restores sword meter from guarding, can sprint faster than while sheathed with your weapon drawn, has light sword mode where each of your individual sword hits has about a 50 MV, side step and back step slashes, charged attacks, and a super phial burst with 500 MV total

>>160738507
Hammer could delay its swings more than these days, and the golfswing did a fair bit more damage.
But in truth, it's less that GS and Hammer were that broken, and more that every other weapon was just that terrible.

>>160738672
i heard that long swords were broken as fuck

if i remeber correctly one thunder long sword or dragon was the equivalent of the kelbi bow in FU (i personally dont know i remeber people toaking about it)

>>160738837
LS was a complete joke in Dos where it was introduced, but was buffed in the Portable games. In FU it's "secretly" top tier alongside GS and Hammer, but nobody will admit that to you.

>>160738608
The funniest thing is that all of this broken bullshit is actually REQUIRED to stand a remote chance against the monsters Frontier throws at you.

>>160738672
dont forget hammer was also way more mobile since the level 2 charge double swipe could be chained into a new charge very quickly

>Brave style can be fully charged within about 30-40 seconds
>Brave gauge can be maintained indefinitely as long as you're aggressive enough
>huge positive changes to every weapon's moveset
So is this style going to be actually good?

>>160739414
Seems that way.
Hoping that XX is going the Frontier route and is balancing its G Rank around these new styles. When you've got movesets this crazy with a built in oh shit button, the monsters better be tough enough to match. I'd prefer Brave Style to be unlocked once you hit G Rank, with a challenge quest to unlock it for every weapon as well. So, basically, like how Frontier styles work.

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Please look forward to the next trailer!

>>160739649
this is frontier 4 years ago
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hwcLaThOgkY

and there still people saying that the game didnt went full frontier

>>160739649
>balancing its G Rank around these new styles
HAH!

>>160739414
I though the Brave Guage was like hunter art buffs or Demon Mode gauge in that in ran down on its own back to zero
If it can be maintained simply by attacking, that's really fucking good

The downsides of Adept's retard run gone with the upsides of dude invincible lmao PLUS moveset and (hopefully) MV buffs sounds amazing

Brave Great Sword, here I come

>>160739972
The Brave Gauge replenishes as you attack. Though you probably can't maintain it infinitely that easily.
Brave's main downside is that you're punished heavily for sheathing normally, because your sheathing animation becomes insanely long. Brave guard also isn't invincible, it reduces damage taken to 30% of the normal value. In all the high rank gameplay shown so far that wasn't much, but one video against a Bulldrome where the player had white sharpness (implying G rank) he still took about 20% from a Bulldrome charge even in the Brave stance.

>>160740158
Is the damage entirely red health?

>>160740158
Also, Brave Guard's automatic sheathe still has a "retard run" attached to it, and the retard run is pretty much the main balancing factor of these things anyway
Go through an attack effortlessly, but use it willy nilly and you'll just eat followup attacks while you can't do shit
Many people don't bother with Adept outside of DB and HBG simply because it's actually too unsafe

>>160740272
I think so? Also, Brave Guard only works on attacks that hit you from the front.

>Shitter charm runs
>delivering more than 12 coals
>people throwing bitch fits if they do not get to deliver any because they think you need to have delivered some yourself for optimal quest reward
>delivering one coal at a time = mining a single coal, delivering it, going back to mine for 1, delivering it again
>If you get 2 you discard the other one

JUST

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>>160739773

>>160740397
>>delivering one coal at a time = mining a single coal, delivering it, going back to mine for 1, delivering it again
>>If you get 2 you discard the other one
please tell me you are joking, there is no way someone can be this stupid.

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bowguns
light or heavy

>>160741127
I'm not. Jesus it was not this bad in 4U Gen is a real shitter-magnet

>>160738608
How many buttons does Frontier even use?

>>160741587
As many buttons as the N3DS, which means it also takes into account with double shoulder buttons.

>>160741668
So it's just one extra attack button more than what we're typically using now?

>>160716549
You can sleep

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Anything (MHGen)

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Gypceros is an asshole and I hate him.

>>160741135
Medium

>>160741724
Only thing I can remember is that on the WiiU version, you press ZL+ZR to activate hyperarmor during attacks with GS

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>>160716549

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>>160742582
>>160741724
>>160741668
>>160741587
Frontier doesn't use the extra triggers for anything meaningful, bear in mind Frontier is also on Vita. The GS hyperarmor is activated with the select button. Same goes for DS self sharpening. The rest are just activated by combos