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Remember me ? edition
previous thread: >>160582309

>READ the pastebins BEFORE asking stupid questions
GENERAL FAQ: http://pastebin.com/wyz3Ye1g
Additional FAQ, SERIOUSLY, READ THIS ONE: http://pastebin.com/GHStmm22

>How to join Warbros No Fun Allowed: http://i.imgur.com/RMS2guW.png

>Notable links
Essentials: http://deathsnacks.com/wf/index.html
Focus System: http://warframe.wikia.com/wiki/Focus
Buying and Selling items: https://warframe.market
News: https://forums.warframe.com/forum/170-news-events/
Raid Setups and individual Builds:
THE LAW OF RETRIBUTION: http://pastebin.com/dMMdZRpY
THE JORDAS VERDICT: http://pastebin.com/NLPSMBed
Damage 2.n: http://i.imgur.com/AFVavTs.jpg
Droptables and Data: https://github.com/VoiDGlitch/WarframeData
DPS calculator and weapon build planner: https://github.com/GottFaust/WWDC/releases/tag/0.8.2 (not maintained)
Top guns, read note at the bottom: http://i.imgur.com/UCGjWk0.jpg
Tierqueer Filters: https://gist.github.com/JustEndMyLife/8d7d68d5ebdffe5995a53c42edf43663


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CURRENT UPDATE: The War Within
> https://forums.warframe.com/topic/715768-update-19-the-war-within/
CURRENT PRIME ACCESS: Nekros
> https://forums.warframe.com/topic/691098-the-silver-grove-hotfix-3-nekros-prime%C2%A0/
Older stream footage: http://pastebin.com/LkZRPteU
liestream highlights: http://warframe.wikia.com/wiki/Category:Livestreams
For specific liestream highlights, use http://warframe.wikia.com/wiki/Devstream_## (replace ##)
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/wfg/ OP pastebin, if it's not like this one report it and make a proper one: http://pastebin.com/iAgtMahh
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>Infested Frame before the end of the year

>I got 40 fucking Mutagen Masses thinking it'd come out with the next Prime Access
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XXXth for being shit at this game please kill me now
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How much should I sell this for?
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>>160630129
you know it's gonna require loads of kuva and nitain and maybe like 5 mutagen mass total, right?
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Warbros still full?
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>>160630129
>Infested Frame before the end of the year

You really think they'll pop out another frame before 2017 ?
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I just started building Equinox and I wonder... I see that frame very rarely, so why does nobody play xer?
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>>160630225
because she's a pain in the ass to farm
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>>160630129
>Infested Frame before the end of the year

it's literally only concept art at the moment. A 1 hour quest took them an entire year to release.

The earliest we'll see it is december 2018
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>>160630225

>>160630302
this right here
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>>160630150
i already told you to give me your ign so you can give it to me for free
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Repoast

>>160629836
PVP should be two players hired by the Corpus/Grineer fighting against two players working for Lotus.
Its the only way for mercenaries fighting to make sense. The entirety of the Tenno/Orokin culture is bland and cheesy. DE's writing is just pitiful.

Conclave and Teshin are fucking terribly stupid. Hamfisted weeb shit shoved in to appeal to 12 year old Naruto/DBZ fans.
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>>160630310
don't forget that Scott already covered his ass by saying "no more release dates xD we'll release it when it's ready"

how fatfuck manages to keep his job is beyond me
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>>160630129
>new infested frame comes out
>mutagen mass 5 total
>nitain 40 total
>kuva 5000 per part
:^)

>>160630225
>have to grind each aspect
Fuck that
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>>160630302
>>160630329
>because she's a pain in the ass to farm

oh yes I know because I just did that, I killed that nigger tyl like 50 times, with his annoying mimics and staged fight, fuck you tyl

having said that, vauban prime is also hard to get yet I see him regularly
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>>160630516
>what is prime access
>what is people pre-emptively doing nitain alerts
>what is trade channel
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>>160630701
I guess

so Equinox is not actually shit?
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>>160630932
Equinox is a really good frame, and from what I've heard it can pull off some crazy shit.
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TATERS ARE FOR CUTE!
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>>160630439
would be interesting if the game actually gave you the choice to avert bog standard weeb tropes

>Lotus may or may not be a power hungry warmonger using operators and warframes as her pawns
>Warframes develop sentience; while most remain loyal to their operators a la second dream, some grow to resent them; some outright murder their operators for freedom
>all major bosses/npcs are now possible clients that can replace lotus; there is jockeying for 10o operatives between Lotus, Uncle Ruk, Darvo, Salad, Frohd, Syndicate leaders et all
>there is meaning to backing leaders and their philosophies; whether it be Lotus destabilizing the galaxy for eternal war and balance, Corpus prolonging conflict for profit, Grineer salvaging the remnants of humanity, warframes overthrowing Lotus/operators for freedom, etc
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>>160631348
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>>160630932
if only there was
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>wanna get wukong as the first prime just after the first free one
>must be in a clan
fuk mi
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>>160631353
I'd side with Ruk and Worm in a heartbeat
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>>160631664
>not being in a clan for the sole purpose of leeching bps
y tho
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>>160631353
>DE actually doing something fun

hahahaha
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>>160631353
That would actually be really cool.
The real problem with Warframe's squandered potential is that nothing has any meaning. They tried to add deep and serious content, but that turned out to be the ugly potato kids, something no one has any connection to.
Letting players learn the ideology of a faction, letting them choose who to fight for, that would actually be immersive. I could actually care about the story if that were the case.

Syndicate missions now?
>do the exact same missions over and over with a different coat of paint
>heres your reward
>none of this actually mattered and its all pointless grind devoid of soul
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Does anyone have a clan with max research i could leech blueprints from? IGN: NikolaTeslaProWrestla
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>>160630932
equinox is really fucking good

>>160631483
shut
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>>160631850
>>160631791
oh I know the game is going nowhere
I've been here since U6 or so +/- a bunch of breaks and all my dreams for the game are dust.
i still remember when /wfg/ had hope and we brainstormed possible ways for the lore to develop
it's just fun to think about what could have been. It's just idle talk since shitposting is boring
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>>160631850
You see, the issue I see in all of this system is that higher rank and minmaxers will make one faction dominant over others and have no real need of conflict.
Kinda like the dark sectors now.
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>>160631789
invit me then sempai
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>>160632105
>implying I have any power over said clan
Im just a mr 16 shitter tenno
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>>160631928
Same here. IGN : Enwyn
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>Still haven't hit + Crit Damage or Multishot

I think I'm just going to cut my losses and work on the Braton. I just hope Braton Rivens didn't get nerfed.
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How long till DE fix this shit?
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>braton p is still hot shit after 3 formas
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>>160632304
I wish I had rivens half as good as this one
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>>160632069
easy enough to railroad desu
option 1: make players auxiliary to your plotted conflict so that all their contributions do is skew the degree of the outcome, or allow them to back the underdog
option 1.5: allow players to back lesser powers/underdogs (ie back your choice of syndicates, back the lesser evil) in the face of overwhelming adversity; the infrastructure is already in place given that it's already established that the Lotus sends out 10o to undercut all the other factions because she doesn't have enough power to dominate
option 2: give better rewards to the losing factions so that people back whatever is most profitable
option 3: what DE does already have your narrative you want to happen and make it happen regardless of what players do, only giving the illusion of player agency
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>>160632057
I think I joined a little before U11.
I've seen a lot of shit go down, and all slivers of hope die.

>>160632069
They could restrict weapons and gear just like conclave now.
Have dedicated weapon loadouts to choose from in the PVP missions.
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nice game
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>>160632940
Up side down syndrome.
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>>160632940
Thanks.
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>>160631928
Warbros :^)
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whats the best weapon I could use on melee saryn?
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How do I buff Oberon and Hydroid?
How can I fix Sorties?
Best drink to get drunk?
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>>160633443
Remove them from the game
Reduce chances of 2k endo
Bleach
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>>160633443
1)Change his 2 and make his heal keep doing effect even if the target is at full health
2)Remove the fucking endo rewards
3)In your case, semen
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>>160632940
The new mod is better, so the reroll did do something.
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>>160633507
remove fucking endo from sortie and do like 10k and 20k kuva.
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>>160633403
THE

MOTHER


FUCKING


ZENISTAR


https://youtu.be/QU-oQUH7sok
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>lanka riven

FUCK THIS STUPID FUCKING SYSTEM I HAVE TO WAIT 24 HOURS JUST FOR A CHANCE AT A DROP FOR THIS SHIT AND THIS IS WHAT I GET
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>>160633507
>>160633558
I don't think I can drink both.
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>>160633719
>people unironicly ask questions like that on reddit
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>>160633717
post it
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>>160630150
>still can't do this fucking mod

aaa
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Can't wait for Equinox prime.
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>>160633962
M R 1 5
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>>160634203
Thats a pretty awful mod honestly
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megan fags confirmed c_cks
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How the fuck has DE managed to make chainsaw fists fucking lame.
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>>160615007
THATS A FUCKING NECROMORPH
Necromorph Companions when
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>>160634427
They're pretty cool.
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>>160633403
>melee saryn
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Anyone get that claw icon with a "1x" at the top right near their health

What is that?
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>>160634619
I think you get that when you die in operator mode, no idea what it does.
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>>160634378
It's almost impressive. It's not even as strong as P.Bane of Corpus for 4 additional drain. I won't even be able to sell this for chump change, I wouldn't be so pissed if acquiring these mods wasn't dick awful.
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Why does this game feel dead even after TWW?

Is it because I'm a a solo player? How are the large clans holding up? Is the game better when you're surrounded by company?
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>>160630246
But 10o, that means adding shit like cover systems and players don't buy enough plat for us to put it in :^)

But seriously though, that sounds cool. They can finally put in those mercs they talked about. Maybe put in pic related by modifying the Lancer model if they're lazy about it. Or, y'know, get the model if they still have it or something, I don't know.
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>>160634759
>feel dead
>solo player
????
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>>160634619
Transference Static, what >>160634680 this guy said.
Dunno what it does, but your frame does lose a portion of his health and loses energy, and resets the focus bar I think, whenever you die as a potato
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Sortie token system when?
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>>160634916
how do you even die as the operator?
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>>160635032
Noon hasn't even done TWW, kek
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>>160635032
You only have 100 health nigger, what do you think, a stray bullet can kill you easily
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>>160635032
be in the same room when grineer coughs or farts or be the target of mean grineer thoughts.
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> I know there is a sleek to get only rare from relics
> I want to abuse this sleek
> But I know TattleTale monitors threads.
> Tattletale will have them patch it.
le ebin sad froge maymay
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>>160635092
>>160635109
>>160635116
once you hit zero you just teleport to your warframe with both your operator and warframe energy drained to zero. nothing else happens. I don't hear extra sounds or anything.
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>>160635171
just do it without telling anyone nignog
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>>160635280
>autism
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>>160635361
how so?

C A L L E
A
L
L
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reroll?
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>>160635428
Autism is a communication disorder, you failed to understand what we were obviously speaking about.
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>>160634908
I think it's due to being an old player. It's virtually impossible to work with new players. DE has done a terrible job with merging the gap.

It's come to the point where new players do not know how to play for fun while knowing how to build their arsenal.

The game is just too fucking easy now, and it's nothing worse than having an easy game with no type of end to it.

Just think about it, 85% percent of the players are probably farming Kuva and that's literally it. For what? It's fucking pointless....after 3 years DE is still crapping out these cryptic quest that reveal basically nothing hoping we'll stick around for the next quest. And it's the same half-assed 25% Story telling 75% Grind

I really really believe nobody at DE knows what Warframe is about
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>>160635349
This is literally impossible for people who play games.

I have 5 sleeks that I still haven't revealed and they're STILL in the game.

I fucking wonder why.
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>>160635536
I'll play with you bro, I ain't got shot but I'll play with u lets go
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>>160635641
post sleeks
https://a.pomf.cat/zrsceb.webm
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>>160635349
If I knew how to do sleek I wouldn't be lamenting this would I
Y A D I P
A
D
I
P
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>>160635536
The real problem is that DE make no effort whatsoever to actually show players how to play the game.
Almost everything in the game has to be searched for on a wiki that isn't even hosted by DE themselves.
Even worse than that if you want to understand a more complex subject like TTK theres basically nowhere to go except here.

99.99% of players have no idea what an optimal build is. They just die a lot and think level 40 enemies are super hard.
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>>160630932

Equinox is one of the GOATest of frames, but requires a little more understanding than most, aside from just Maim-nuking everything.
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>>160635690
I'm not playing Warframe right now, and I don't plan on playing until next update.

Currently I'm playing Dishonored 1, thanks though
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Is the Worm an actual kid or is she one of those 10000 year old lolis?
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> having Teshin decapitate the Queen

also how I do use the freebie Riven mod?
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>>160636084
By reading the wiki
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>>160635934
It's as if DE thinks not knowing how to play Warframe, encoruages you to play more.
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I just replayed the second deam and I think I finally understood why forum cucks suck DEs dick so much, it all comes to being casual.

You see when you play this game casually, by which I mean a few hours every weekend without paying attention to the development, patches, sleek, exploits, min-maxing and so on, it's good.. Probably fun too.
You simply wouldn't notice the issues that we discuss here because they never come up for you. There's always something to do, a new weapon or frame to get and so on. For these players "getting everything" or "finishing grinding" is something they never think about, it's completely utopic to them.
They also don't pay attention to the development of the game.

When your casual player randomly logs in and sees an update he doesn't go to the forum, reads all the changes and plays through all that content. He eventually stumbles on it.
When TWW was released it was an enjoyable experience for a while and then the casual closes the game. And that's it.

Now that I've replayed it I think it was a good quest. The reason I (and the majority of the thread) were so bitter about it is because it took so long and we notice that, because we play a lot and keep up with the development. Most players won't notice this, either because they don't care or becasue they have other stuff left to do and do it at a much slower pace than most people here.

This is also why we don't matter to DE anymore. We're a tiny minority. Warframe is first and foremost a casual game, and most people play it that way.
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>/wfg/ is still alive

How can you do this to yourselves. I haven't been able to look at the game since they killed fast
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>>160636338
and there's nothing wrong with that. there is only so much you can do to keep an autismal minority happy - apart from having COMPELLING repeatable endgame, which is very difficult to do.
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>>160636338
You're absolutely right [DE]

Thanks for making us feel powerful then shitting in our mouths afterwards just to cater to your casual fan base.

Lunaro was a nice casual attempt also. Try a little harder next time.
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>>160636507
>which is very difficult to do.
It's not "very" difficult, it's just more difficult than slapping another gear treadmill called power creep on the game and shove players on it.
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oh nooooo
:)
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>>160630225
I personally got all the parts in like 30 minutes or so of runs. She's my most played warframe but like others said, the rng is real.

>when you see another equinox in the squad.
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>>160636465
It's a shame we stopped numbering the threads ages ago, it would have been nice to have an extra counter of how pathetic I am. been here since around #100
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>TTK Programmer gone
>Tonkor John Cena poster gone
>All Drawfags are gone
>Weird stories about Warframe relationships guy gone
>1 thread spreading into 4 threads with plentiful information about Warframe gone
>Sleek Rhino Webm guy gone
>SweetFX guy gone
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>>160636465
it was pretty much dead a week before warwithin.
give it time.
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>>160636781
It feels the best when one is a maim-spam and the other is a rest/peaceful provocation spam.
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>>160636465
Parkour 2.0 killed off a lot of players and sprouted a new breed of shitter.
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>>160636465
But anon bullet jumping is so much faster than whatever the other thing was called.. "weapon spinning"?.
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>>160629953
DE's chicken overlords will never allow him into the western game.
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>>160637119
I knew what it was and turned my volume all the way down but it still fucked me up. 10/10
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I already have a Glaxion Riven that's better

Somebody trade me a Gorgon/Penta Riven or kill me, I want off this ride
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>>160637091
>>160636781
I want to massage Equinox's thighs.
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>>160637281
that's a penis
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>>160637340
yes, and?
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>>160637436
it's got smegma on it

I want those Mikus on my lap.
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>>160637606
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>>160637240
It's only slightly faster, and only in open areas where you have the height to combo jumps and flips. It was an objective nerf to speed and sorely needed.
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>>160637091
I'm usually the maim one.

>>160637281
okay.
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>>160637654
He's got 2
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>>160637914
anon, i will do anything for my warframe.
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>>160635835
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>>160638036
even crawl in their anus?
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>Get 'less damage' debuff in derelict
>Switch to operator to see if I can get around it it doesnt
>Die in potatoe mode
>All weapons and mind-laser now deal zero damage
>Only powers deal damage
Only 70 more enemies left
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>Do a Fissure MD
>4 people in the game
>Trinity doesn't move from the spawn
>Yet could use her powers when we were on the other side of the map
>Extract
>Stat screen comes up
>There is an area for a fourth player, but it's all grayed out
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>>160638726
Spooky
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>>160630160
FOUR DOLLARS!
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How do endless fissures work? You get rewards every 5 minutes or just rerolls?
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>>160638481
>even crawl in their anus?

anon, I love donuts
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>>160639706
every 5 minutes you pick another relic to open
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What frame should I invest into if I want to become FUCKING INVINCIBLE?

I don't want to invest in Chroma yet because there's rumors of a rework around, but I'm interested in him nonetheless.

Rhino, Inaros, Nezha?

Inb4 tierqueer
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>>160639775
if anything the infest frame might be the closest thing to what you want
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>>160639876
You're gonna have to explain why this image even exists.
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>>160639839
wukong I guess.
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>>160639839
REFER TO THE FRUME GUIDE.
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>>160639829
does it replace your first reward or do you get it along with it is what I'm asking
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>>160639839
they all play basically the same for the level of """difficult""" content currently extant in the game.

Rhino and Nezha get good CC but fucked by random nullifier spawns. Wukong is more invincible but has the same problem and has zero utility. Inaros is tanky but gets pocketsand.

Nekros is bretty durable imo. Not to the same degree, but I like the sheer utility he has. I run a SoS aug build for sortie 3s, but 99% of the time prefer a a despoil/soul survivor/creeping terrify build. You get loot generation, infinite energy/health loop and ~82% damage resist with health conversion which means ~4.2k EHP

tl;dr tanky, good CC slow, loot generation, instant revive Nekros. Bretty solid all round build.
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When the FUCK are we getting robo mirage?

>not warframe
FUCK YOU MYNKI I WANT ROBO MIRAGE
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>>160638403

ahh this one
there was a way to move around doint small jumps forwards but I cant do it anymore
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>>160639839
Honestly the game is so piss easy that there's a ton of viable options. Just be aware for Nezha that, especially when building for max Warding Halo, he's kind of fragile when the buff runs out.
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>>160640310
nobody hates your guide you fucking walnut everyone hates YOU

when are you going to learn?
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>>160639876
too late. I've gone too deep into his blog.
its like dunkin donuts and crispy creams having sex.

>>160639839
>inb4 tierqueer
>replies to your post twice
pretty pathetic desu

>I don't want to invest in Chroma

rhino is only gud if you can get enough dmg to resist shit instead of constantly recasting it.
Same thing with nezha
inaros is pretty tanking but not really. free energy with rage is good

your best bet is wukong or limbo
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>>160639839
haven't heard anything about a chroma rework but either way, you need to invest a few forma to really get most out of him.

Inaros if you like pocket sand.
Wukong is also alright.
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>>160640346
you get every relic you open
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Is the Ignis worth using?
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>>160640351
that actually looks kinda cool
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>>160640481
>everybody I dislike is a samefag
pathetic
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>>160639839
Inaros is pretty easy to be invincible with.
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>>160640531
yes
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>>160640587
You can vote for it on the workshop if you want to help an anon out. I just want more skins for my waiframe.
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>>160640531
It's pretty good, not great. It's definitely good for status proc'ing and w+m1 laziness since it has enough innate punch through to go through walls and makes farming mindless enough to be comfy, but don't expect it to keep up in damage output in higher levels.
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>>160639775
me too
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Who at DE thought it was a good idea to make the 'use zipline' option visible from the other side of the map? I've climbed this zipline like 10 times in one Hieracon round
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>>160640848
it's directly above you
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>>160640134
it's pretty lewd stuff
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So, what exactly would have been unfair? I don't get it.
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>>160641182
There's no zipline there I'm pretty sure
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>>160641182
>>160641281
There is a zipline, but it is kind of high up. I didn't even know there was one there, but the 'use zip line' option has a higher range apparently. Had this problem in a couple other places too
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>>160640134
do you want me to link it
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>>160641227
>>160641380
I mean I knew source of the art which I absolutely love it and frankly love you all even more for loving it as well I was just confused by the shoop at first.
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>Do MR test
>0/5 won't increase no matter how much I kill
>Le sleeks
>No choice to Abort
>Can't choose rank up test until le 24 hour

That's bullshit, all because of a shitty sleek.
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>>160641241
I guess to people who don't spend plat so instead of "their" base Valkyr getting primed they'd get something different.
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>>160640385
ya, I saw a gif of someone moving in that state.

I was trying my damndest to move in that webm
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>>160641594
try sprinting and sliding forward
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>>160641489
it's a super realistic spin off of this
https://i.imgur.com/qhNf2pC.jpg
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>Put up an energy wall to keep them out
>They still crossed it
>Got a Nova helmet as my reward
>Host leaves
>Game glitches, leaving me stuck in the screen where you select a new relic
>Have to manually exit the game using TM
>Lost my reward

I fucking hate everything.
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> need 100 points to fight Kela
> lose 50 after fighting her

I just want the saryn piece for chroma. enough of this gated boss bullshit
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>>160640634
can I confirm that you were or is this now a meme to try and cover your ass again?
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>>160641765
>two points name and two points
what the fuck is he saying. I know some taco speak, but what the fuck
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>>160637269
Id trade you but im out and about. Got penta.
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>>160641948
He's asking how to put the syndicate logos in chat
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is soma prime good against level 60+ enemies?
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>>160640474
>when Baro arrives in Relay and no one buys your Darvo Deals
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>>160641821
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>>160633443
>How do I buff Oberon
Change his 2 to something else.
>How can I fix Sorties?
I've never done a sortie.Still making my way to them.
>Best drink to get drunk?
Warmed up Rakia with Honey.
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any way to self proc radiation? Tried ogris, penta variants, tonkor, castana variants, stug, using dual stat status mods + hammer shot / catalyzer link, etc

only seem proc blast or straight electricity with castanas, even when radiation is the highest damage

I just want to murder my own teammates outside of radiation sorties
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>>160642285
no
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>>160642372
staticor doesnt do self damage
source: me using it a lot
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>>160636872
jsut got this from sortie, i wonder how much shekels it costs
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>>160642229
tummy kissu~
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>>160642439
figure it out anon. unless it was nerfed but i see alot of shit unnerfed thx to DE's sleek coding
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>>160642372
thanks bruh.
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>>160642153
Fucking stock never drops
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GUUD JAAB DE GUUD JAAAAAAB
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>>160637269
>not having Glaxion as your main
>100% status easy to make with that 15.4% multi/16.1% stat chance bonus per lvl of the mod
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>>160642285
>>160642285
min duration mirage with staticor
When Mirage's clones time out, any projectiles launched by them become "factionless", aka. hostile to you.
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Reposting disposition numbers, now with faint, neutral and stronk highlighted.
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>>160642489
whatever someone wants to pay for a trash mod.
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>>160643314
>Braton 0.97 instead of 1.5
>No Mk1 memes at level 100
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>>160643314
at least burston, torid, gorgon and opticor all have higher values
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>>160643272

>>160643314
>now with faint, neutral and stronk highlighted.
What?
if you're implying everything in green is a shit weapon you are sadly mistaken.
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>>160643216

Can't be fucked to forma it further, sorry senpai
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What's a good way to take down high level tanky enemies like the Executioners?
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>>160643628
Shoot them until they die.
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>>160640481
>>160640348
why you all hating on inaros?
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>>160643628

the wisdom you seek is right here >>160643672
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>>160643628
Kill them til they are dead.
Don't die.
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>>160643591
tell that to DE man
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>>160643314
>ignis
>faint

why
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>>160643314
Look how fucking far down the Tiberon is. DE knows they made it into a pile of shit.
>Look at this awesome new rifle created by a master tenno gunsmith
>takes a Latron to complete so if you're building it from scratch it takes over a fucking day to build
>its burst fire
>the burst fire mechanic is forever bugged and will never be fixed
>damage output so low its barely passable in the Derelict
>cannot crit or status proc
>10 trigger pulls and you have to reload
>reload time is 2.26s
>burston gives you 15 trigger pulls and only a 2s reload
>total damage output is basically no better than the burston while being less usable in every way
>hurr made by a tenno master gunsmith!

Fuck these fucking morons.
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>>160630150
>equip Zephyr
>equip Patagium
>equip hitscan assault rifle
>go to an Earth excavation mission

There ya go, bud
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>>160643732
his shit is capped while other can keep scaling in usefulness from other mods. i guess you can pray that DE puts out primed Steel Fiber and primed vitality

I don't hate him. he has a bunch of sleeks people aren't aware of and DE doesn't see his sleeks as a problem yet.
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>>160644080
Defense would be easier and Corpus have bigger heads. And just doing a simple llama jump + glide would provide more than enough stable airtime to shoot whatever.
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>>160630225
It's annoying to try to get all of Day + Night parts due to RNG.

Also just a little fun thing for Equinox players out there to try: Use the Duality augment mod and the Zarr. Whenever you make a copy of yourself, the copy's Zarr will always be in Cannon mode. So you can run around using the shrapnel blast of the Zarr and spawn a copy that will spam explosives without having to risk blowing yourself up. It's pretty fun.
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>>160644194
primed vigor
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>>160644194
Would primed steel fiber even be useful?
I don't remember off the top of my head but I think primed flow and quick thinking are better for survivability almost always.
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Inaros is a male dog but has 6 nipped on his body.
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>160644660
Massive health + massive armor + infinity energy (rage) + quick thinking + Undying Will = i don't think it's actually possible to die but you can sure as hell fucking try.
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Is there any way for Ember to proc her own passive with a weapon or something?
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>>160644997
There was, but I think they patched it.
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>>160643591
>if you're implying everything in green is a shit weapon you are sadly mistaken.
Those are the weapons that will be marked with strong riven disposition in the arsenal, that's all.
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>>160645042
For what purpose?
Where do you see enemies proc fire except Grineer Scorches, Napalms, and Hyekka Masters that will insta kill you if you stand there like an idiot.
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>>160645138
because energy nigga
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Why can fire hurt a warframe
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>>160645405
Its made out of flesh.
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why do warframes need life support
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>>160645405
How can guns hurt us when bullets aren't real?
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Which would you say are the most thematically appropriate weapons for Inaros?
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>>160645405
>>160645460
>>160645489
Why can fire hurt a warframe that is all about superheating the air to the point that enemies spontaneously burst into flames?
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anyone got a spare shotgun scavenger? ;_;
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>>160645405
Why does a warframe need oxygen?
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>>160645718
Sent ;)
>>
My warframe is strong
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>>160645718
Nigger why the fuck are you using that trash ass mod fucking get a carrier and learn to be a non shitter you intolerable shit gargling fag
>>
My dongframe is War
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>>160645827
but i wanna spray and pray with the kohm
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>havent played at all since april
something something relics something something i got a free prime piece out of a misison with lv15 mobs

im a bit lost

also for rejoining warbros should i just redo the application process?
>>
Rhino and Valkyr are the only Warframes with vocals
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>>160639829
you must wait for an alert with survival in it or you can get these missions somewhere like lua?
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>>160646034
void keys got turned into relics, no longer bound to the void tileset, now you just go into Void Fissure missions with a relic, collect the reactant that drops from enemies and at the end of the mission you get a reward, if you went in with a party you get to pick which of the rewards at the end you want.
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jesus fucking christ fuck farming kela and her 10 billion hp and running 5 arena bouts after every attempt JUST FOR SARYN SYSTEMS FOR FUCKING CHROMA AHHHHH FUCK YOUUUUU HOW DO I CHEESE THIS
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>>160646285
>HOW DO I CHEESE THIS
you don't. buy plat.
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is piercing caliber mod coming back at some point?
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Man I'm pretty
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>>160646427
Sure
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>>160646427
ok
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>>160646034
>also for rejoining warbros should i just redo the application process?
No, just message killsaw or post in the thread saying you want to rejoin. There's a list of everyone who has been removed for inactivity.
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>>160646427
>falling for the IPS meme
The only remotely acceptable IPS mod is primed heavy trauma
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is 7 sec average cipher time shitter tier?
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>>160646828
> An impact mod for the War is viable
> Slash mods, the far superior IPS, is not viable
> Even though Tigris Prime and Galatine Prime are things.

ok
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>>160647005
Nope, it's pretty good for /wfg/ standards :o)
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>>160643965
Because it's a popular choice for low/mid levels due to its large AoE? The largest AoE among all ingame weapons, if I remember correctly
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>>160647005
Less than 6 is shitter time.

Shitters don't raid.
Raiders hold off on completing hacks.
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Bluetato alert
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catalyst
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>>160647052
>165% vs 120%
>when Tigris is ideally built with 100% status to actually make use of those procs

>>160647169
NM is the only place you can't cipher to begin with, and even then you don't have to hold off on a hack when it only takes ~5s to hack it to begin with.
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>>160647317
Why did deathsnacks change invasions and alerts from one side to another?
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>>160646285
EV
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>Doing radshare
>someone enters the mission without a relic equipped
>another person has the wrong one equipped
T-thanks
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>>160647656
I hope you didnt collect reactant
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>>160647704
If you dont collect reactant do you get the relic back?
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>>160647792
yes
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>>160647792
You don't unlock the item, so yes.
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>>160646285
Ash fatal teleport/bladestorm for arena
Radiation Lanka for kela. Ironskin for stagger immunity while shooting the targets, wallrun during the missile barrage. It's not hard. Get comfy, you'll be doing it a lot for medi ray and acid shells.
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>>160647808
>>160647827
Oh, oops
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>>160647867
yer a dum git
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>Missed a few events since I didn't play for a year
>those events happened to be all the status chance mods
>people wanna charge me 100p each mod
>I'm to the point where i'm unloading on a bombard and some fag comes and one shots it
Wanna die
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Does having to farm make anyone else really tense and nauseous?
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>>160648053
Use a different weapon.
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>>160648053

get a Sancti Tigriss , you dont really need the status chance mods for it , just use 90% elementals and it will blast away any foe
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>>160648141
I am about to, I've even got a mildly broken riven for my new ones that is being crafted. RIP secondary and melee though.
>>160648252
If I wasn't mastery 8 I would.
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>>160648082
humans by nature aren't designed to be doing something so monotonous
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>>160648082

it usually makes me want to sleep or die
do you have to meet some credit quota every day so your master wont shoot you or something ?
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>>160648053
>Just started playing again after the new update
>apparently NONE of my old stuff sells for anything and Im just trying to get platinum for more weapon/frame slots
>dont know what to farm for or what will sell
So do I anon

Who is that in the image?
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>>160648310

Then use Tonkor , same 90% rule apllies
it needs forma but leveling it is easy as fuck

build is the same as any bow - the fire rate mods , Firestorm and bladed rounds are optional
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>>160635482
definitely, -90% firerate will hurt you
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>>160648335

If you have any sindicate maxed then weapons ( melee) can be sold for around 35 plat

that or farm fleetng expertice , heavy cal , narrow minded , blind rage , transient fortittude and try to get 15-20' plat for them
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>>160648335
It's supposed to be Mag, it's an old image though, not sure if she is no longer running the useless title.
>>160648415
I'm about to get a weapon that I've got rivened, rivens trivialize the whole power crysis for me thank goodness, I'm just sad my Vasto Prime will be stuck at 60% status and my melee will never see use.
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>>160644001
I'm salty as fuck about how weak the Tiberon is.

The firing sound effect is sexy, and it looks amazing, but goddamn it's only useful in the first 3/4 of the fucking solar system.

Burst weapons in general need a rework.
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>>160639839

Zephyr
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>>160648053
Every one of those mods is available in game. Spy 2.0 for fire/toxic/cold, sabotage for shock. They're not even particularly rare and spy is comfy.
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>>160648327
Is there any chance the devs will make the grind a little less soul-crushing? Or at least make the wait for items to be made not as long?

>>160648330
If I don't make enough platinum through ERPing by next friday master won't let me out of my cage for another month

I'm trying to get Inaros and it's killing me at the moment.
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>>160648551
Thanks anon, are old misc prime parts just harder to sell than mods? It seems like noone wants them, and if they do they only want at max like 5 plat for them Is that just the price they go buy?
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>>160648793
>sabotage for shock

fuck, I thought it was odd that I never rolled electric mods in the last ~thousand spy runs
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>>160648335
Just play bruh. Syndicate gear and mods are guaranteed plat. Play endless missions and rack up relics. Use relics to gather up prime parts, sell rares or sets for plat, or sell parts to people buying em at 5/10-15p. It adds up, as long as you don't get stressed at RNG. it helps if you aren't actively hunting for something
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>>160648638
They should all just be full auto with a short pause every 3 rounds.
They're never going to fix the frame rate bug.
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>>160648793
>SPY
It's worse than I thought.
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>>160648638
Macro it anon. It's not as good as burston p for level 80+ stuff because it can't proc afor shit, but a macro'd tiberon with one or two rof mods fires like an automatic and does crazy good damage. (DPS calculator numbers don't reflect macro'd DPs)
>>
Why isn't the Kulstar praised more? I would have built that crappy Kraken a hundred hours ago if I knew how usable the Kulstar was going to be. A pocket rocket launcher with a few of the great qualities of other launchers mixed into one small package.
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>>160643314
Now imagine how the Warframe one is going to look.
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>>160648872
Vaulted stuff sells well if it's decent or popular/looks cool. See: Loki, ember, boltor p, glaivr p, dakra p, etc. Powercreeped/unpopular stuff (mag p, boar p) has no demand. Sets sell better than individual parts. Easy to acquire stuff (common, uncommon, non-axi relic parts) never sells well. You're never going to unload shit like Paris, braton, bronco, fang, etc primes on anyone. The imminent unvaulting of Ember/Frost P means that they and their associated weapons have undergone a drop in market viability and are worth much less compared to before; contrastingly soma/nova p demand is going up.
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>>160649263
Self damage, people kill themselves with it constantly.
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>>160649230
>>160649076
I've run macros before for the burston.p, rakta.b and telos.akb, but a maxROF macro still won't overcome its anemic damage output once things scale past like ~60, and with it's small magazine you spend more time reloading than firing with a macro anyway.

Don't get me wrong, I still love it. They just need to give burst weapons and older weapons a balance pass to account for power creep in the game.

giving all burst weapons double the "normal/average" status chance for that weapon type seems like a decent starting point

A decent riven mod for it, or even a syndicate mod would do wonders to make it serviceable.

>>160649159
Spy is fun and quick. I can do any corpus vault in about 20 seconds and Grineer varies from 5s to 30s depending on the one one.

>>160649263
>rocket launcher
That's why.
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>>160648793

Thought only only the Primary mods were in Sabo?
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>>160649708
On a side note, I've been having fun with the Paracyst. I really wish it was better, but, if you treat it like a weird rifle / shotgun hybrid, tugging people to your feet and filling them with holes, it works fairly well.
>>
did they change saryn skirt?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l2z6ac8A_2k
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>>160648053
>status mods
>relevant
>>160649159
>hates spy
spy's fucking easy and you're a dunkass
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>>160649708
I'm great on grineer ones, but holy shit do I hate the corpus ones, I suck at their hacking game. Also I've done tons of those quests and never got an element mod.
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>>160649551
I guess I should just sell my stuff to people who buy junk prime parts then? I guess it also doesn't matter as much currently if I accidentally sell a semi expensive item that I got a long time ago, since all I want right now are slots. hopefully Ill start paying attention to what stuff is rare and uncommon and common now, I dont remember rarity any of my old stuff is so I guess Ill just toss them all to junk buyers
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>>160650174
>spy's fucking easy
are you ok anon?
hating something =/= being difficult.
>>
What do I get first from Cephalon Simaris?
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>>160650290
Succ
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>>160650290
see >>160637119
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>>160650290
Scanner upgrades
Energy conversion
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>>160650290
ruptured eardrums
https://a.clyp.it/c0jbtpxt.mp3
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>>160650290
this >>160650371 or health conversion for nekros
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>>160650212
depending on whether you already know this or not, it could change your entire life

you can right-click the hacking tiles to spin them the other direction

>>160650232
if you've got a stack of prime items, look them up on warframe.trade first just to make sure they aren't 100p+ items
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>>160650232
If you're really desperate then go for it. Don't recommend it myself since it's like getting ripped off by a pawnshop esp if you have older stuff that is potentially worth a lot. i came back from a break and sold glaives/reapers/embers/rhinos and went from 100p to 8k plat, only took a couple days and only sold a some of my stock before i got bored of jewingIf nothing else, you'll get more bang for your buck getting ducats and getting extras of decent stuff from the Void Trader.

If you're not willing to take 5-10min to figure out which of your prime parts are worth something and which ones are ducatti fodder when you're starved for plat you kinda deserve to get ripped off
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>>160650174
>Both of those were to me
Then what should I be doing? I don't even think crit mods are in the game anymore.
Also I can do spy, but randoms always fuck up at least one cache.
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>>160650440
someone post this to reddit and see how many fall for it
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>>160650593
>all those failed missions from accidentally clicking once too many times
>all that rage
Thank you for this anon.
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>>160650664
>I don't even think crit mods are in the game anymore.

>spy
>cache
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>>160650664
>but randoms always fuck up
play solo
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>>160650664
>running spy missions in public mode

jesus christ anon, it's like you're asking to fail
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>>160650664
I hate spy too but they are hardly difficult

stop playing them public and go solo
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>>160650767
I mean I can't get the good crit mods if they exist, I haven't seen any besides the very basic ones.
The data cache, they always fuck it up and get the data erased.
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>>160650813
>>160650838
>>160650853
But I want them to go fast... I guess I'll just have to deal with it. All my favorite weapons are status ones so I'll have to suck it up.
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Is Loki the comfiest for spy?
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>>160650664
Bladed Rounds/Argon scope are gone. Point strike/vital sense are around.

Status mods generally aren't as good as full full elemental except on niche builds, because most guns have decent base status, and between high RoF and multi shot, you can proc reasonably reliably.

Status builds generally aren't even an issue except with certain frames because you're going to massively overkill things in 1-2 seconds or less with a properly built gun. The point where stacking procs becomes an issue is when your TTK exceeds 4-6s, and at that point you probably want to leave. Such situations don't really happen anymore with the way DE killed endgame, at least not outside of hypothetical simulator simulations that shitter youtubers make videos of.
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Which warframe alert app do you guys use

Almost missed the vauban alert today and now im scared
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>>160650976
ivara w/ augment is comfiest
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>>160650664
>Spy
>public

This better be fucking bait.
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>>160651067
https://deathsnacks.com/wf/index.html
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>>160651096
>two endo alert rewards
it seems those are shit since everyone is getting 2k endo from the daily
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>>160650974
as long as you've got a stealth frame, it's much faster to do it solo because you aren't failing every other mission due to pubshitters

>>160650976
yeah, with bowbitch coming in second

>>160651070
>ivara with augment
Shitter who can't dodge lasers confirmed.

>>160651029
the ele/status mods are always useful for a random last mod plugin to get some free extra damage, even on non-status weapons
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>>160651081
>not playing as volt and completing the spy segments before the pubbies even get there
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out of the bows right now in the game, which one is the most worth potatoing?

I have no knowledge about bows but I need one for these bow only sorties (for ivara of course)
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>>160651149
Endo is a joke. Can't believe I fucking miss getting 5 golden cores.

>>160651346
>Spy
>public
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>>160651276
>having to dodge lasers is more comfy than just walking through them
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>>160650974
Learn shortcuts. It's faster to Nova yourself through the maps/lasers than to pub solo desu. If you're retarded and can't into hacking, use ciphers.

You are falling into wiki warrior mentality if you think you need exclusive event mods to not be a shitter. Argon scope/sweeping serration/maiming strike/ etc builds are where autists of /wfg/ use to minmax unnecessarily; if you're not able to succeed with regularly available mods and weapons that can be acquired on the game you might want or have another look at the wiki and game mechanics.
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>>160650039
RIP billions amount of damage for the paracyst.
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>>160651370
zhuge
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>>160651382
>this being an issue
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>>160651276
>>160651401
All I have is Oberon and Mesa, I only built my favorite frames. Guess one day I should make a dedicated stealth frame, who would you suggest for spy missions if I wanted the fastest possible route?
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gKzoOMIkKqM

oh anon, do you still play this game
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>>160651370
Well if you want a conventional bow the Rakta Cernos is okay. If you want a bow just for bow sorties try the Zhuge.
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>>160651482
I guess I could actually have fun fucking over pubs in public spy using Volt. Wait til they are getting near lasers and then make them go right into it.
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which one of these are worth doing

Can't do the limbo theorem because - my archwing is level 5 - archwing missions give me cancer
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>>160651382
>>160651523
>Missing fusion cores
I love endo and relics, fuck keys and cores, I have more maxed mods and complete primes than ever.
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>>160651523
>TFW you maxxed reflex guard back in the day just like that
RIP Reflex Guard.
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>>160651504
You have taste in frames.
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>>160651602
both kubrows and limbo are hot shit
take natah so you can do the "main" quest
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>>160651667
Thanks anon, Mesa is nice for stealth though since she can super charge the vectis and kill a guard in one shot no matter how strong. I have yet to tell if Oberon's orbs of confusion can stop the enemy from activating alarms.
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>>160651504
Doesn't matter. Needing a stealth frame for spy is a meme. They save you maybe 5-10s per room at best.

You can smash and grab your way through the entire level and set off every alarm before the data room and nothing will follow you in, enemies inside (if they even spawn for that room) won't be alerted. Just learn the shortcuts and variations.

Yes, you can switch teleport past things with Loki. Yes, limbo/ivara can run through lasers. Yes, nova can wormhole past lasers. Doesn't matter, you can easily bullet jump/wallrun every obstacle as long as you learn the shortcut.

spend some time faffing around spies in solo mode, watch some walkthroughs. It's fun and satisfying to get down. 100% serious, spy is comfy in its own way
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>>160651742
after I did 100+ runs of spy missions for ivara. I didn't want to play any spy for a while.
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Fuck yesss I can finally use the Buzlok and not feel shitty for doing no damage
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>>160651602
natah, second dream, war within
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>>160651636
Atleast 5 golden cores made me feel better than 2k fucking endo.
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>>160651824
Butt the buzzlok only has 10% base CC?
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>>160651742
I can see where you are coming from, but i've done so many and never got the mods I wanted, it's a bit disheartening. It is kinda fun in some cases, especially on uranus, but man does it drone on when it's your 50th run.
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>>160651937
Could be worse, I got a mod alot like anons, but for the Karak. The wraith only has 5% chance and thats an improvement from the 2.5.
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DE sure loves their perspective dickery, don't they?
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>>160651943
Then...just buy them. They're like ~7-9p on average on warframe market. And people in the thread have pointed out how easy it is to make plat.
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>>160651937
With that mod and Vital Sense, Buzlok's crit chance is 47.4%. That's pretty decent. The biggest problems with the Buzlok is that it has a low crit chance, low status chance, and a 'eh' amount of base damage per shot. The +damage is nice and giving it the potential for a crit build makes it usable.

That riven mod isn't going to make the Buzlok crazy op or whatever, but the damage should be comparable to Boltor Prime (without Riven mod) but be much more fun to use.
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>>160652423
*Meant to say Point Strike, not Vital Sense

Also I just forma'd my Buzlok. I'll post a pic of the final stats here in a bit once I've leveled it up.
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>>160652053
>look up rime rounds
>20p average
I'm gettin too poor for this shit
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why do I never have enough credits

JUST
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>>160652638
that problem goes away over time.
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>>160652672
No it doesn't. The constant mod upgrade cost, the constant credit cost for ducat items, it never goes away
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>>160652638
It's because you're a shitter who cannot into raids.
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>combine 4 (Four) mods into a new mod
>12k
>sell 100 (One hundred) mods
>20k
really makes me think
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>>160652050
anon pls
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>>160652837
I don't like playing with other people
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Is the only purpose of scanning stuff wtih codex scanners to unlock lore stuff, aside from that one planet junction that requires you to scan cephalon fragments? It seems pretty annoying to have to scan all the different syndicate mission helpers and quest sepcific enemies if you want to try to scan everything in the game
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>>160652989
Teamwork skills are a vital tool in the toolbox of "not being a shitter."

You don't have to like it. You just have to get it done.

Or continue whining about never having a surplus of credits, whichever you prefer. Your life.
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>>160653016
get helios.
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Who or what is this cutie?
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>>160652560
Ain't him, but,
I can just give you some mods if I have extras.
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>>160653152
Cute!
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>>160653152
Clem
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>>160653152

Clem!
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>>160653152
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is there a pub raiding channel
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>>160653298
Raidbus.
It's full of cancerous shitters but it's also full of competent raiders. You'll very rarely fail a raid when you're with a raidbus group.

on the other hand...

You might be subjected to this.
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what do with all of these
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>>160649992
ah fuck, you're right. They're pulling rewards rom CorpusInfestedSabotageRewards which means you can't get Voltaic Strike or Jolt anymore.

Okay, you can get the shock/status mods for rifle and shotgun, but not melee or pistol.

jfc DE.
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>>160653152
A meme.
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>>160653401
disolve into endo
sell for credits
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>>160653160
You would be willing to do that?
My name in game is ScoutMctartan if you are serious, I would be thankful if you did.
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>>160652759
once you buy everything there is nothing to spend it on. then the millions start accumulating.
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so months of farming and it's not enough to even max out one mod
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>>160653373
is raidbus worth it? this is the first time I've heard about it.
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>>160653883
That's 5 days worth of sorties.
What were you farming?
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>>160653998
that's my entire collection of duplicate mods after 204 hours of playing this game
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>>160653938
Absolutely worth it imho.

Raidbus will help you spam raids 24/7. You'll start building up a nice collection of arcanes, stacking up credits, never have to do another detonite invasion again, and once you git gud you might even make some friends there.

You'll also finally complete ash and the brakk.
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>>160654145
but I don't like ash.
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>>160654145
what are some required weapons/frames for raids?
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>>160654145
thanks mane. always annoyed me when sitting in the recruiting tab waiting for someone to host LoR or Jordas
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>>160654195
Mastery fodder allows more trades
More trades allows for us to greater express the jew inside our hearts.

Embrace the Jew anon. Embrace it.
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>>160630225
>xer
Gtst would be the most suiting pronoun, thanks.
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>>160654227
>Weapons
Nothing, you don't do any killing
>Frames
For LoR it's usually anything with CC, plus both EV and bless Trin. You also want something with a higher energy pool to carry the bomb (they can double up with CC role), so Loki for example.
Ones I can list of the top of my head:
>Loki
>Nova
>Mirage
>Rhino
>Vauban
>Trin
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How viable is Shock proc stacking on grouped, non-high-armor enemies with something like Torid? If 5 enemies in 5 m range get gas/shock procced that's a decent multiplier for overlapping damage.
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>>160654347
cool
I have every frame on that list except mirage and vauban

guess I'll go read up on raids so I'm not a shitter
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>>160654227
REQUIRED FRAMES FOR RAIDS
1) Trin x2 - 1 built for EV, and 1 built for Bless.
2) Nova for portals.
3) Bastille booben.

Also useful:
Volt for speed.
Loki for Disarm.
Rhino for stomp (build max range and duration, NO STRENGTH MODS FAGGOT)

> For JV
Nekros and Atlas.


>>160654347
> Mirage
Fuck off already please? The meme is dead. Stop trying to fuck a corpse you degenerate filth.

The name of the game when raiding is CC. Killing enemies just replaces them with more enemies. CC them instead.

Stage 1: Friendship door. Grab bomb. Friendship door. Hack consoles, blow bomb, friendship door, repeat x4.

Stage 2: Stand on the pad and don't fucking move. After that stand on the pad and don't fucking move until you hear the driver say clear.

Stage 3: Wait for people more competent than you to open doors and blow chimneys. Kill VayKek. Receive arcane.


Remember to pay fucking attention so you learn some shit along the way.

> JV
Lmao just go balls deep and learn on the fly nigga. It's all spores and hacking and flesh flowers. It's confusing until you know what to do, then it's just tedious.
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>Almost MR rank 19
>Still haven't attempted Raid, even though I have like 10 keys built for it

I need to grow a pair. I just don't want to be useless to my team.
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> it's a "enemies 1-shot you so you better have invincibility in some way" episode

hawt dawg!!
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Gonna reroll this sucker again to see if it gets better, but am I on to something _fun_ here?
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>>160654665
> sniper rifles
> Fun
> In a hoard shooter.
nigga I doubt it.
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Should I try looking for deals on Soma Prime parts now? I'm sure that prices are at least going to be in a mini dip since there's a lot of people gathering up the parts but its definitely gonna jump after the vault.

I don't think I'll be able to get any more Neo S3s in time and I only have a few Meso S1s to use. So that means most likely going to buy the barrel and probably also buy the stock. There's just no way I can RNG these in time at this rate, crazy fucking Spys still giving shit like pocket change amounts of credits.

The BP x2, Receiver and a Vasto Prime barrel that I really don't care too much for, that's all I got. Shit.
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>>160654762
> Mini dip
False.
They are inflated.
Soon the relics will stop dropping, which means farming the pieces will drop off, so those that have been hoarding will begin pricing to sell. This will see a major drop in prices.

For maximum Jew, wait until the next expensive cosmetic bundle drops, when people are scrambling to cover overhead on the cosmetics, so that you can pick it up at it's very cheapest.
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>>160654690
Not him fampai, but I think snipers are fun on grineer endless because of how inefficient they are. It's tense because you have to line up your punch through shots to kill as many as you can while the horde slowly creeps closer, especially when you're reloading, esp if you gimp your damage so that maintaining a combo and getting headshots is mandatory. Moreso if you have to constantly unscipe and look around so you aren't getting snuck up on. Obv not as efficient as mass killing and mowing things down with an AR or AoE weapon, but I think it's more interesting that spamming a simulor with my feet while I eat a sandwich.

Agree that it's just a shitshow to run bow/snipers vs infested though, yeah
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>>160654979
I mean it sounds good on paper but me personally I like to grab the nearest shotgun and blow my enemies in half.
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>>160654665
Rubico is pretty good. It and the Lank are my go to rifles apart from the Soma Prime.
I normally rely on the staticor, only using the rifle for fun on boss kills, or some rare occasions like nighmare extermination runs. Its pretty fun one shotting that faggot fuck stalker too. Funnily enough I've been using a sniper more often now since I keep getting Rivens with challenges to get X amount of kills without detection, and a sniper with Hush equipped is pretty fun for that.

Top tier Riven for the Rubico would be Magazine Capacity plus Crit chance giving you over 100% when combined with point strike. If you managed to get any other good bonus stats like base damage or multishot it would be godly. The way the crit multiplier works, and the increased crit damage while zoomed in give you insane damage. Get a single kill and you're at a 1.5X bonus. Zoom in once and you're adding 35% crit damage to the base.

Output more damage than you can ever actually use.
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>>160654828
>Soon the relics will stop dropping, which means farming the pieces will drop off, so those that have been hoarding will begin pricing to sell.
Hm, good point. I guess technically I have at least one piece to sell as well, so I should probably try and dump it early. Unfortunately the market list already has the BP going for pennies from some people.

I remember some of us here hoarding up the pieces. Mind if I get one early?
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>>160654828
>dip
People are already stocking up because of the vaulting. Relics don't expire. Get farming DS excavations instead. There are only three DS excavates, and the non hieracon ones are super newbie friendly so it's easy to run multiple extractors to 2k, even without good gear.

Tbh soma p isn't even that great, esp since damage/crit rate is the same as non prime version. Magsize/max ammo is nice but that's about it.

Or do what the other guy said, wait for Valk prime to drop, farm up the relics, sell her set within week 1 for 500-1k plat because people are stupid and buy the soma parts you're missing then
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is saryn still shit?
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>>160655207
I actually already have the regular Soma with a bluetato on it from a while back. I have no other rifle worth using, aiming for a Braton Prime one day because I'm kind of tired of these wimpy pew pew sounds.

Easiest DS excav I can reach for the S3 is on Europa.

If I don't manage to get the Soma P this round I should probably get back to opening the last few planets and void sections so that Valkyr Prime isn't too bad to get. Don't really care for Valk's playstyle too much.

Thanks both.
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>>160655191
It's not really about the individual components, even if something is vaulted. The moneymakers are the rare components, or completed sets.

Back when I sold ember P sets, I'd get 1.3-1.5k for the whole thing, the bp was easily 800-1k, some other part was ~200, but the last two were peanuts at 10-15p because it was a common that flooded the market.

You're not getting a piece of the pie on soma/nova unless you have a stock or a set, and even then it'll be a while before the demand really goes up (assuming a new AR that outpowercreeps it doesn't get released)

Spies are not a great place to farm relics en masse. Either find a halfway competent squad and run excavation at 2-3 simultaneous extractors, or run ODS for a while since that droptable isn't diluted with as much garbage.
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>>160655585
> power creep
> Bow and claws
Don't hold your breath.
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>>160654641
>put up shatter shield
>forget melee goes through
>get fucking decked
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>>160632457
>90% chance to not shoot a bullet

Wew
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>>160655656
At least powercreeped claws would mean "sort of usable" or maybe not.
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>>160655957
How the fuck does that even work?
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>>160632457
>126.5% flight speed
Holy shit.
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>>160655656
Eh. Realistically speaking, on a long enough timeline, power creep won't really be as much of an issue and we are going to see the market flooded with shitty rivens that haven't been cycled and are cheap to re-cycle. The only reason people are even fucking about with bad weapon rivens now is because there is a limited supply, and prime access idiots have more plat than they know what to do with. The fact remains that with a 15 riven cap, people are going to be offloading bad gun rivens cheaply pretty soon.

I'm fairly certain that in ~3 months time DE won't release anything that changes gameplay, but we're going to see a lot more 300% dmg/150% multishot type hind/glaxion/tiberon/whatever rivens that bring them up to par with boltor/soma p, effectively making those guns less meta or must have at cheaper cost. Why spend 300-400 plat for a vaulted gun when you can roll the dice on a renewable resource for a less popular gun, especially when the RNG is weighted to make it stronger?
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how much do rhino p systems go for?
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>>160656557
3.50
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>>160656292
You're probably right.

I will say I cannot fucking wait to get my hands on a minimum 110% multishot Attica mod.

I want to make the attica fun, and for that to happen I need at least 200% multishot dammit.

Side note; All this shit about "wanting to breath new life into bad weapons"

Why the fuck didn't they just release more fucking augment mods? Rebalance some old shitty augment mods?

Like Sobek. Sobek doesn't need no fucking status chance! It's needs PUNCHTHROUGH damnit!

And what about fucking Mechanics like Thunderbolt? Or the Furis Purity mod? What about some shit like fucking combustion beam or acid shells, but for secondaries?

Fuckin hell. These things should not be as stringently exclusive as they are for christs sake.
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>>160656152
Like this

https://youtu.be/pQkdxESmvAQ
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>>160651824
>>160651937
>>160652423

Alright picrelated is what I'm working with. I need to forma it at least one more time to get the last mod on, Shred(punch through is helpful to have on Buzlok and the little bit of firing speed is nice). I'm using this in my Jet Stream Zephyr build so I can work around the projectile travel time. Also running Carrier to help negate any sort of ammo problem.

The one thing I'm considering though is running a Primed Cryo Rounds instead of Stormbringer. Since I have a ton of extra base damage due to the riven mod, Primed Cryo Rounds over Stormbringer would give me 956.2 Viral damage rather than the 677.2 Corrosive damage, which is a fairly big difference when taking the 4.4x crit multiplier into consideration(also the damage difference will actually become slightly larger once I equip a fully maxed Serration). Not sure if it's worth dropping the corrosive procs tho despite the low status % chance.

I don't fucking understand enemy armor scaling in this game so if someone could give me some advice on whether the lower Corrosive damage or much higher Viral damage would be better, I'd appreciate it.
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When are shotguns gonna get riven mods? I want a 100% status kohm.
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>>160656838
it needs more firerate.
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>>160656720
>Critaata
thats a fun name
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>>160633443

>Oberon

Make Hallowed Ground radial instead of a strip, make the heal stay up and over-heal, make Dunk do a load more damage.

>Hydroid

Kek.

Both need *new* new passives that aren't super-nice and dorky.

>Sorties

Endo: for what purpose?

>drink

Grappa di brunello.
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>>160656875

Sounds like a Pokemon.
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2nd alternative helmet for equinox when. that atlas got two already.
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I want to get a few novas before she is vaulted, but now that DE has fucked excavation for farming relics where I should go?

Interception?
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>>160657278
valkyrsbutt
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>>160656720
armor serves as precentage-based damage reduction. as armor goes it, enemy effective hp increases multiplicitively.

this is different from the health and shields of most corpus units, which merely add together in determining ehp because shields are just another health pool with different damage vulnerabilities.

to answer your question as to whether primed cryo or stormbringer would be better, plug it into a dps calculator. your riven mod doesnt matter for this comparison
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>Run a billion grineer captures for kuva
>Finally get a siphon to spawn
>It fucking glitches.

When are they going to fix this? Does anyone else have the same problem of no kuva trail things spawning half the time?
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>>160656720
Since you have primed Cryo you should be focusing on Viral/Blast/Magnetic

as >>160656720 said, Armor doesnt scale the same way health does. Because of their formula the base health of an enemy scales relatively normally, but because of armor effective health health modified by armor has an exponential increase. This is why puncture/corrosive/radiation dont counteract armor, it just scales too fast
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>>160658005
You used to be able to fix that sleek with a host migration.
Now DE made kuva siphons disappear upon host migration.
Thanks DE you are truly my greatest ally.
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>>160658076
so is viral/rad better than corrosive/blast?
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>>160658605
short answer: yes

long answer: a lot of people think that puncture/corrosive/rad are best because of the damage bonus they get against armor. The problem with this is even if you are ignoring a portion of somethings armor there is still armor left. To counter this people use 4xCP. BUT, if your using 4xCP then puncture/corrosive/rad loose their damage bonuses, making slash/toxin/viral better
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>want to join raid
>never done it before
>sweating intensifies
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Just use raidbus
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>>160658913
>run raids daily
>sell arcanes on a regular basis
>im part of the 5%
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>>160653373
>>160653938
https://youtu.be/gLdClekCl9E
Don't fall for the segregation meme. learn fast who is good and who is a shitter. learn who are reliable hosts and who has chink dial up internet.

>>160654227
the raid pastebins in the op work but if you are a just starting out stomp rhino is go to if you can't run Trinity (ev or bless), Nova, max strength + prime flow volt, Vauban, loki, or nova. Once the squad has those frames the host will probably be more lenient on what people can bring. any type of cc is good

if you are going to run a caster frame always have quickthinking. bless will not always be up but ev will.


>>160658913
it's ded since people keep failing jv and nightmare lor. Plus people don't want to host. this place isn't perfect but it's a hell of alot better than picking randos for recurring.
https://discord.gg/aUTTyWH
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Just use Bangbus
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>still need to do the gay ass objective after cyling your riven mod.

Do they even play their fucking game?
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>>160659896
they play it, but not legitimately. They give themselves max leveled mods, weapons, frames, everything.
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Nice FUCKING GAME
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>>160660031
Does that heal them on crit?
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>>160660031
fuck you buy plat
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How high do you think I could offer Arcane Vanguard hat and still make a sale?
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>>160660531
Probably this >>160656583
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>do meso spy
>get lith relic
That shit is legitimately frustrating.
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void trader items with 0 exp are tradable right?
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>>160661457

*Only* those with literally 0 xp.
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How much for a unravel Supra or Tzar riven mod?
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>>160661457
without forma/potato
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dont have credits or plat for a booster so im running infestations (level 30~)
am I doin it right
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Hey /wfg/ cucks. What kubrow is the best kubrow and why?

No shitty kitties replies.
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>>160661940
Akkad, 5 waves and leave. 26k or so per run.
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>Getting bullied by my own bounce-mines I placed instead of teammates because a bombard knocked me into it
I deserve it
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>>160661992
Huras for Shade dog or the dig dog for energy spamming in one place
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So there's only one Grineer Queen now or?
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>>160661992
It's Sahsmeeta
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>>160662095
Only one and the best one.

Worm-chan is qt!
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>wanna do Isaac Clarke cosplay
>can't decide which corpus weapon fits the plasma cutter the most
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>>160662195
Isn't the panthera a straight ripoff from Dead Space?
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>>160660031
>crits do less damage than regular hits
hee hee
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>>160662195
detron, but none of them are very close matches
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>>160662095
You can choose whether the elder lives or not but the kuva collectors after the quest make it pretty obvious that whenever it's convenient DE will just bring the elder back regardless of your choice (worm says she will see the elder again once she has enough kuva).
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>>160662195
It's gotta be the Spectra
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>>160662474
So obviously she's in one of two states:
>if killed
Worm will revive her corpse with kuva.
>if you let live
Worm will awaken her from some type of "deep sleep."
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>>160662474
>>160662765

I think it's along another lines. Remember that at the end of War Within, your operator is possessed for a second by your dad(?) or some shit, which would imply that one's consciousness can remain in the void. Similar thing with Vor.

So I think it's going to be something like, with enough Kuva, Worm can somehow transfer the older queen's consciousness into a new host body. Possibly her own.
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>>160655207
>Tbh soma p isn't even that great, esp since damage/crit rate is the same as non prime version. Magsize/max ammo is nice but that's about it.
Hey hold on, is the wiki info outdated? It does look like the Soma P is better in almost every way that counts. Even if the damage increase is low the reduction in spool up time seems pretty desirable.

Still I'm actually reconsidering trying this hard to get the Soma P. All the relics I've been scooping up seem to point me in the direction of going for the Lex and Braton Primes instead; two weapons that I do really want to have and can hopefully cover me up through sorties if shotgunning proves too dangerous. Then there's the Supra which I really love and holy cow the damage per mag and total damage pool has a 3.375x and 6.75x advantage, so that gun actually covers the role of dakka spam far better than the Soma P. Probably should have stuck a catalyst on it beforehand.

If I find the parts then that's great but I think I can make do with the regular potato'd Soma at the moment for any mission that I really need a slash rifle for instead of a shotgun.
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>>160662195
Convectrix?
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>>160661992
Stealth doggo is definitely best doggo. Better than the Shade at actually being a Shade, can actually do significant damage once modded unlike a Shade, doesn't explode and stay dead which is what a Shade does if someone sneezes at it. Because it is a sneaky pupper it helps directly counteract the fact that you give up Vacuum.

Combine it with Limbo to make most Spy vaults a complete joke. Other Kubrows just can't do what they need to do because their AI is too stupid, but the Huras works just by being around.
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>>160662294
It is similar to to the ripper but it's not exactly a plasma cutter
>>160662463
How? Detron is just a shotgun and is nowhere near anything in Dead Space
>>160662752
Spectra is probably the best candidate for a secondary right now
>>160663368
Yeah, I was thinking about it, but can't decide between Convectrix and Quanta
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>>160663794
>Detron is just a shotgun
it's the only corpus secondary that shoots projectiles in a similar manner to the plasma cutter. The thing shoots bolts of energy, not continuous beams.
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did i win?
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>>160664014
if I have the Detron and the Mara Detron should I just sell the Detron?
or do you guys think [DE] is gonna pull some weird "you need Detron as part" shennanigans
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>>160663335
oh whoops, nah wiki's correct, I was misremembering.

soma far outDPSs braton prime, lex p is a great pocket sniper, but neither is really the be all end all. They're good weapons, but there are many other viable alternatives. That said, despite what you might think based on the autists in /wfg/ they're perfectly okay if you put the effort into making them good. It's just that, actually making them good is really only something you only do if you really like them, you're a theoretical minmaxer who wants to see that number crunching in action, or you're bored.

One thing to note is that lex p only comes with one V polarity (and is a crit weapon, which means primed crit mods, which means a shitton of forma) while the braton comes with none so that's quite a lot of relevelling the same gun.

Again, don't fall into the trap of thinking that complete and utter minmaxing is the be all end all.

Pic related: none of these are even remotely as optimized as they could be (Soma and Soma P could use argon scope, Braton P could use a riven, Supra could use a riven, more pure elemental mods, all four could use primed cryo) but a) they faceroll sortie 3s with zero difficulty as long as they're slightly tweaked to meet whatever faction they're against, and b) they're still basically autism at its finest, especially since all of them besides soma P were leveled two years ago, before we had things like Draco or Bere before mastery rank actually let you have more mod capacity on a level 0 gun

tl;dr soma is great, soma p is great, other guns are just as great, none of that really matters past a certain point because there's no truly difficult content in the game that requires extensive minmaxing anymore. Play whatever guns you want, but don't stress about artificial demand created by DE vaulting shit. unless you're a mastery whore
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>>160664381
>Not edgy game choices
>Not ash prime
>Not stalker sigil
>Not nikana
>Lack of edgy colors in your operator
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>>160664576
assuming you have the spare parts for more detrons later in case they pull some twin-detron shenanigans, sure

>>160664381
>mostly "good" choices
no
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>>160664702
>twin-detron
nice work 10o, you just managed to pump my blood pressure up to 180
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>>160664580
I am somewhat of a mastery whore. Coming up on MR13 now after a lifetime of almost exclusively using fresh unranked weapons unless its a really difficult mission.

I just want the Braton P because its a bang bang rifle that reminds me of simpler games.

Also I kind of forgot to calculate the criticals into the equation for damage capacity of the Supra versus the Soma/Prime. Warframe builder says they come up to about the same level in both DPS cases with the basic mods I have (no Argon Scope, Rivens are still out of reach, definitely no Primed Cryo) so the Supra is definitely a viable alternative machinegun choice for me. However, the Supra is definitely superior in sustained DPS to the standard Soma with these mods.

I keep my Forma close because I'm not that old and am still starved for them. Screwed up once by removing a useful polarity from my Excal before I knew what I was doing, so I don't spend them very often.
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>>160664580
>>160663335
oh also
>can hopefully cover me up through sorties if shotgunning proves too dangerous.
generally speaking shotguns are a better bet for a workhorse weapon to sink your hard earned resources into.
Vaykor Hek is probably the best all-round SG in the game, but syndicate augmented Hek is a lower mastery SG that will carry you through Sorties with ease. Sobek + acid shells also scales well. Tig variants are more like utility sidearms for fuckoff high level enemies, but also scale well.
The thing about rifles is...they're expensive. Heavy Cal/Serration are pricey to level, and they take up loads of mod space which means lots of extra forma. SGs don't really have expensive mods (both for leveling and mod space) until you get to primed mods, and primed point blank is basically just the cherry on top, since SGs are good with just bog-standard mods.

>I think I can make do with the regular potato'd Soma at the moment for any mission that I really need a slash rifle for instead of a shotgun.
for the most part, you don't really need to mix and match IPS types to your enemy faction as long as you've slapped on at least two elemental mods on top of base dmg + multishot. The only place where IPS damage sorta maybe comes into effect is aug. armor sorties and even then, pretty much only with tigris to set off slash procs.
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>>160664963
Braton prime is pretty good for proccing elemental.
Its an allrigth weapon,it has a mix of every damage type.
I beliebe you can archieve 100% proc chance with dual mods.
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When was the last time we had a forma/tato invasion?

Did these cunts nerf based Ludi?
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>>160665018
I can access Acid Shells and Scattered Justice once the Soma P gets vaulted and the requirement for the next level changes. Both shotguns are already potatoed, don't have any plans to get the Vaykor Hek since I'm happy with the normal one.
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>>160665184
*short term plans
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>>160664963
euuughhh wf builder is a good guideline but they're mos def completely different guns, even if Supra has better theoretical DPS.

Soma variants are hitscan and can get headshots reliably from across the map, even with heavy cal. Supra is pretty much full dakka hope you hit something in the general area with heavy cal; you'd need a decent riven to replace hcal for it to function similarly, and even then, non-hitscan projectile travel time means it's not great for long range headshots.
realistically speaking though, you don't really need to bullet hose anything with either weapon, since properly modded, they're kinda 1-3 click headshot kill weapons til you hit the level 60+ range

>>160665157
nope. <90% unless you throw on something stupid like catalyzer link, and even then it's something like ~95%

>>160665184
ah, fair. Seems like you know what you're doing. You're in for a treat with acid shells, makes that gun super fun to use.
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>one day DE suddenly decides to buff all assault rifles with ~50% more base damage across the board
>shotguns indirectly nerfed
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>>160652875
What's wrong anon-kun?
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>>160665595
I wish DE would buff burst fire weapon right now.
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>>160663794
what frame and colors are you planning to use to cosplay him anyway?
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>>160656875
Hakuna Critaata
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>>160665595
The Riven Shotgun, Pistol and Melee mods are obviously coming later. They are going to release them along with the big quest updates like War Within.

November 2017.
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>do defenses for hours
>suddenly relic drops stop
>only get mods
First 2k endo only, now this? Fuck this weekend.
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>>160665435
Oh I forgot to mention that I don't have Heavy Caliber and I don't know when I'll ever come across it. All of my WF builder work excludes HC and replaces it with an elemental or something else.

I don't like too much inaccuracy anyway. Prefer to move slow, aim straight and hit heads when I can. Frost goes well with my lazy playstyle and Exalted Flashbang is for when I'm not so lazy.

>>160665768
>shotgun Rivens
>base disposition is Very Faint, with the best shotguns (most of them) going as low as Extra Faint
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Feel like grinding tons of Kuva today. Give me chill music.
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>>160664381
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>>160630150
Use zenurik focus or basitlle to freeze a bunch of enemies so they don't fucking move.

>>160644080
>>equip Zephyr
>>equip Patagium
>>equip hitscan assault rifle
>>go to an Earth excavation mission
>never have more than 2 enemies on screen at any time
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>>160666012
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JTEFKFiXSx4
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>>160665650
>ARSE
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>>160665650
>ARSE
kek
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>>160666012
https://youtu.be/zQF3xW9pzzM?list=PL8CF3004AE3A4DFE4
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>>160666038
This is tight as fuck.
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PS4 Shitter here who finally got their giant fucking dog-thing. They're pretty "interesting" but majority of the time it just runs around and stares at walls (like a real dog) instead of attacking enemies.

I was thinking though; and I'm probably sure it's a shit idea but what if there was a weapon/body armor you could place on your Companions that were the pieces of your favorite Sentinel?

As an example it would have a back turret/weapon on that would swivel and attack targets that it wasn't or what it was attacking
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>>160666012
how chill are we talking here
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>>160666594
Like this.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eHFx11tUO1M
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I love when people answers my offer with "no,ty".
Just tell me how much you want.
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>>160666446
You mean you want to duct tape a sentinel to a kubrow?
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>>160666692
>Gee anon, how come Lotus lets you have TWO companions?
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>>160666692
Exactly. I think the animal companion idea is great, but the AI pathfinding and targeting is horrendous. So the turret could attack mid-range targets; it would probably also be a lazy but efficient way to fix the animals and make them useful
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>>160666692
WHEN WILL WE GET SENTINEL/ANIMAL HYBRIDS?
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whats the ultimate pub frame

I thought it was speed nova but then you have these retards that are 300m away from the defense point and the waves take longer
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>>160643314
I love how most of those numbers are completely insignificant.
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>>160656629
You're not wrong. We don't need rivens to make crappier weapons good, we need augs, special variants, new mods etc.
Look at the grakata: it's bad when compared to the soma, but the prisma grakata is actually good. Same with the sobek with the rathuum mod and the syndicate cernos. There's alot of weapons made good this way, and the fact that we're supposed to do it through rivens is retarded.
We haven't gotten a new prisma weapon in over a year, so at this point I must assume DE is being lazy on the reworks.
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>>160667227
>at this point I must assume DE is being lazy
only at this point?
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sentinels/pets should all apply a team-wide buff of some sort while they're alive instead of doing damage themselves (kind of like having a second aura per player), and it should be their job to cover a frame's weak points (provide health, shields, armor, etc) so that frames can exclusively focus on mods that impact their abilities

thoughts?
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Does anyone know a good place that drops Meso Relics that's on a mid-tier Planet? Lathomedia is a bit to high for me at the moment. I'm trying to get the Soma Prime Stock
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What frame do I get if I want to run around all the damn time with a big ass sword. I already have Ash Prime but he's getting stale.
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>Extractors are still bugged and I can't place more than one
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>>160668293
chroma, wukong, valkyr, rhino

>>160667609
jupiter, earth, phobos, saturn
but really, check the wiki
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>>160668482
Working as intended, 10o
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>>160668293
Valkyr or Volt for that sweet melee speed boost.
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>Test sleek so I had to abort since I couldn't finish it.

Nice game.
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>>160668550
>>160668627
I've already got valkyr and volt, is wukong actually any good?
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>>160668686
http://pastebin.com/rSmHFVTG

just check the frame guide
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>>160668686
he's FUCKING INVINCIBLE but that's it
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>>160668686
he's literally invincible but nothing else
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>>160667485
That would render frames utterly defenseless once their companion went down, (though a lot of people only use Flow/qt which isn't much mod space anyways) and frames with defensive skills wouldn't even need companions.

Be better if companions were solely based on utility and more survivable. There's some degree if that already (animal radar, ammo conversion, crit buffs, shield replenishment, invis, etc) but usefulness is hugely varied. Be nice if all the unique precepts were equally as helpful/useful in their own way. As it stands, wyrm, dethcube, djinn, etc all get shafted on their utility, even with universal vacuum. If carrier gets ammo mutator + max ammo, maybe another one gets +mag or +status, or +speed/atk speed, wyrm ragdoll gets reverted to its old Excalibur radial blind, forced status procs, enemy debuffs, automatic container breaking (and not the slowass garbage mod they currently have for that) etc

Sentinels are a fantastic way to introduce hassle free QoL tweaks that they just keep shifting all over
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>>160630150
One does not have to kill enemies via headshot, just hit the head.
I use a Soma Prime with high rate of fire, high accuracy and lowered dmg.
The aimglide after a simple jump is enough to land 10 headshots on a target.
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>>160668293
>>160668686
do you want to do literally hundreds of millions of melee damage?

don't be a pussy, play chroma
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>>160667227
It's suprising that creative mods like the rathuum ones even exist. If nothing else, it's pretty evident that DE is shockingly out of touch with their own game (look at how syndicate melee abilities scale; as creative as they might be, the many of them are meaningless, and there are clear winners and losers.) Mods like acid shells, vulkan blitz, concealed explosives etc are the exception.

Shit, even mods that encourage a slight change in gameplay like maiming strike, argon scope, etc are locked behind an event grindwall.

Riven mods being a straight damage upgrade completely dependent on RNG, even after "balancing" just goes to show a complete lack of willingness to tackle the issue of weapon bloat on their part.

Sure, if you get a lucky roll, you get that riven that raises damage and status duration for miter making it a bleed proc machine that's good. Or maybe a +flight speed, +multishot +magsize mod that makes it a sawblade spamming machine. Maybe a latron mod that combines punch through with crit rate and reload to make it a more consistent precision rifle because it needs those but is limited in mod space. Thing is, Riven mods with those stats are by chance, not by design. You're equally likely to get crit rate on a gun that can't crit, IPS damage on an gun with no IPS, projectile speed on a hitscan gun, etc.
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>>160670306
It's one thing if you have tiered weapon progression among your different categories, with acquisition tied to this effectiveness, and general weapon quirks within tiers being sidegrades (hitscan vs projectile, crit vs noncrit, burst fire vs automatic) but that's clearly not the case.

You have regular tenno tech, and grineer guns and clantech and primes spread out without any sense of rhyme or reason, the parts for primes are random (braton p is low mr rank? Cool. Good luck farming those axi relics, newbie!) MR locks mean nothing at all, and even the stats are generally a crap shoot, though with a slight trend towards power creep. And that's not even counting the laziness that is palette swapping the same fucking guns. Cernos, mutalist cernos, rakta cernos? Bolto, akbolto, telos akbolto, boltor, boltor p, telos boltor etc etc

It's very rare that we actually see a gun that does pew pew in a different or more interesting way, especially since they seem dedicated to churning out more garbage and calling it an """update"""

I'll grant you, the secondaries are much more creative in terms of interesting mechanics (automatics vs semi automatics vs thrown has expanded into weird shit like staticor, atomis, sonicor, gammacor, stub, ballistica, kulstar, etc) but melee weapons have to be the worst offender for pointless bloat by far.
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>>160656838
You can get 100% status Kohm with Nano applicator and 4x dual stats. 32+ procs per shot on full spoolup.
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>>160665659
Booben. Don't really know about the colors yet, I'll pick them when he comes out of the oven
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>>160668686
Fucking invincible. Can also do some funny melee status proc interactions with bleed and gas using his cloudwalker.

His 4 is alright but kind of clunky, there are more enjoyable exalted melees.
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Kesheg is now the best maiming strike melee.
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where the hell did the dark sectors go? I'm not finding them on this new map
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>>160671201
They have a special icon on the planets, sorta like the lotus mark
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B R E D D Y
G U D
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>>160670957
Congrats, you read WIKI comments.
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Did they stealth-nerf relic drop rates for defense? I've been running several hundred waves over several defense nodes and only got around two hundred mods, but not a single relic.
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>>160671839
Go Stofler on Lua, or just do Interceptions -> Excavations
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Why doesn't DE just boost up the lower ranking weapons in their class to match the top ranking weapon(s) in that same class?

That way players can just pick their favorite weapon by aesthetics?

Let's say Nikana Prime and Skana had the same stats, one player likes the Nikana and the other player likes the Skana. Where is the issue?
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>>160672035
I understand your good intentions but making everything the same is not a solution.
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Does DE's complete lack of knowledge about proper comma use grate on anyone else's nerves?
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>>160672035
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>>160672076
And neither was the last 10 changes to the game. If they don't get it right the first time, DE will fail the next 15 fucking times. How the fuck do people not see this.
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>>160671521
>after 1 reroll

JUST
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What is better to take off? Shred or purity?
And yes, red crits.
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>>160671521
>halves the fire rate

Jaysis, the stock fire rate was torture as it was and yeah you can offset that negative with some mods but fuck that noise. Still bretty solid.
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>>160672103
If it was just that I could probably deal because it's easy to mess that up but it's not the only thing, they do zero fucking proofreading, ZERO. Basically every fucking update is littered with poorly constructed sentences and typos out the ass. When they used to release synthesis target stories, I distinctly remember that every single one had at least one error or a typo that would have been obvious if they just did a single proofread of their shitty texts.
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>>160672035
There is not need for them to match
It's just that as it is now, various weapons are clearly inferior to others in all aspects
I mean, the most effective status damage weapons are mostly crit weapons which also deal a fuckton of damage to begin with
Just think about it
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>>160667151
limbo
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>>160672431
why not try out both options and see which one you prefer ?
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>>160671521
that mod would be great if you could lock in stats

Too bad you cant, it would make too much sense
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>>160672679
Not as bad as it seems.
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>>160672035
Making all weapons equal is even worse than what we have now. If every weapon was basically the same thing stat wise with a different skin, that'd be incredibly boring.
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>>160672809
It greatly impacts forma usage, so /wfg/ opinion would be good. It is not that much a problem, but still.
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>>160670957
233x19.75 < 510x15
What the fuck are you talking about
Telos Boltace blows it out of the fucking water

Assume: blood rush at 2x combo, no true steel, no Adarza

Crit Chance = (base × (deadly intent) + maiming strike) × (1 + blood rush × combo)

Kesheg: 429% crit chance at 2xcombo
Tboltace 443% crit chance at 2x combo

400-500% = crit level 5
Crit Multiplier = (Crit Level × Crit Multiplier) − (Crit Level − 1)

Kesheg crit mult= 5x(2.5x1.9) - 4 = 19.75
Tboltace = 5x(2x1.9) - 4 = 15

233x19.75 vs 510x15
Actual DMG higher because of pressure point, elements, etc

Someone else can check my math, I'm on my phone and I haven't slept and its 8am
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>>160672431
taking off either would be stupid. If you take off shred, you now have a sniper with no punch through....enjoy only being able to kill 1 guy at a time in a horde based game. Dont even have to explain why purity is needed.
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ayy lmao is there a ps4 clan?
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>>160672010
>>160671839
2x neo, 3x axi in an excavation to 1500 just now
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>>160670535
Oh yeah, don't forget that to make your subpar weapon endgame viable you have to farm for months or spend tons of plat now (with the riven system), as opposed to participate in an event to get a mod or weapon variant.
This whole system feels like a wasted opportunity. Casino gambling is not an endgame that will keep people interested in, and since they spent more time on this system as opposed to actually rewarding endgame, I know that people are going to stop playing.
We're at the same point we were before TWW, vets are bored and new players are confused.
It's sad anon...
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What do you guys think would be more profitable to farm for? Nova P or Soma P?
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>>160673537
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>>160672431
Put the Riven mod to see how far the crit chance goes.
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>>160673594
weapons are replaceable
on the other hand, there is only one Nova
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>>160673702
By itself 76.7%
plus point strike 106.7%
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>>160673838
No, there are two novas. And Prime frames are not much better than their regular counterparts, weapons are.
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>>160673594
Nova. Weapons get creeped, soma p isn't even the best primary, rivens further weaken soma.

Nova is a solid pick, no frames impinge on her territory, fits in with every mission/squad, community established meta. in 12-18months nova p will be the new ember p for ridiculous plat costs
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>>160673365
I don't think Tboltace will be getting any combo counter.
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>>160673997
Which is why Ember P and Frost P are so cheap whereas the Boltor P is insanely expensive, clearly
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>>160672726
>Naramon Focus Tree
>Trauma passive thing
>Description still not fixed
>Literally over a year since release

Screenshot this, they'll fix it now that I said something.
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>tfw starting up warframe again
>no sidearm damage mod
>no serration besides the damaged one they give you

Mandatory damage mods are hot fucking shit.
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>>160674435
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>>160674553
Don't worry anon, DE has finally set their sights on all mandatory mods and expect to drop the nuke by year's end. Of course DE expects a lot of things but still, it's coming Soonâ„¢
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>>160674140
I managed to farm up two Nova Prime sets, but I'm conflicted if I should make one myself or keep both for more profit later on. I don't really use her much.
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>>160674435
do people even use the abilities on the right side of the naramon tree? They all seem pretty shit compared to just leveling the ones on the left side.
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>>160672431
One of your elements, and mod Viral
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>>160674731
You can only hold 1 million focus in a tree, you have to spend it or you'll waste your in mission earnings. After a while you'll complete both Naramon and Zenurik.
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>>160674973
I guess, but at that point it's just feeling obligated to dump focus into them, rather than actually wanting to have the abilities.

Like 90% of the focus skills are total trash.
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>>160674731
if I remember correctly, you can abuse certain arcanes with traumatic redirection
all other shit is useless because of the disproportionation cooldown increase
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>Haven't played in three months
>Still keeping in touch with the updates
>Read that they added more RNG grindwall bandaids

Oh man, it just gets trashier and trashier doesn't it?
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>>160674731
I started putting my overflow points into the extremely useless stuff in the bottom right, like invis for teammates etc, I'm sure in a year I'll max the whole tree but I stopped focus farming once I got strategic executionwhich is LIES/shadow step/deadly intent which got nerfed in naramon and energy overflow/energy spike from zenurik all maxed out, maybe I'll do the madurai shit someday but I barely started on it and the whole system just feels really not worthwhile for those lackluster residuals and the fucking garbage once-every-five-minutes-if-you-activate-these-nodes actives

>>160675162
they are going straight to plaid with this shit, the RNGwall band aid mods are coming for EVERY type of equipment at some point and you know they're not going to touch up this system in any significant way for months (if at all)
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>>160675347
Warframe is the only game that got mechanically worse with time which is depressing, it was the most promising thing I've seen years ago.
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>>160674973
>You can only hold 1 million focus in a tree, you have to spend it or you'll waste your in mission earnings
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>>160675162
If there's one thing DE does well, it's doing a half-ass job. These RNG mods are their answer to making mastery fodder weapons 'gud.' The effects of these mods scale inversely to how popular the given weapon is so garbage weapons will get potent rolls while popular weapons with the same effects on their mod would be negligible.

And as far as we can tell by the charts that are churning out, the popularity and thus the bonus modifier is entirely reliant on global kill counts.
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>>160669767
>One does not have to kill enemies via headshot, just hit the head.
not anymore, you need the kill now.
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How do you nerds feel about using Quick Thinking? It's been a while since I played and I'm updating a few builds for frames.
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>>160675085
Keep it at R0 and use with 2 Arcane Graces. It doesn't work with Rage, but enemies damaging you will still give energy. Use with Quick Thinking, Rage, and Vitality, you're now nearly invincible on every frame. When you do get downed it'll be because something one hit you.
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>>160675680
>get a bow
>go to any surv
>find hallway
>let them come in a straight line
>???
>profit!
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What mod setup for the Ignis is the best to do the most damage combined with Ember's buff?

Do I need straight heat damage to take advantage of it, or does blast still receive the benefit.

Many thanks senpai
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>>160673365
>>160673365
Your math is super right and you're correct for single target and maybe 2/3 closely grouped enemies. As soon as you're only hitting one enemy with your slide compared to hitting two or more with kesheg, that's when the real utility exists.

This philosophy doesn't factor in the guaranteed slash procs dealing with trash and faster attack speed the t boltace has. So i'll concede TBoltace is superior when wielded and when going melee only. Kesheg has quicker combo counter up when hypothetically sliding through a few groups and reaching 1.5x and 2x and applying that damage sooner.
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>>160675984
nice colors mang, accelerant only grants bonus mult to straight heat damage so if you want to take advantage of that explicitly go pure base/firerate/heat

>>160676169
>>160673365
who cares, telos boltace is the best because you can turn them into wings and it literally makes you go faster
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>>160675984
You really need to work on maxing Heavy Cal. It's literally got no negatives on the Ignis.
As for your question, I'm pretty sure it's straight heat damage that gets buffed, so use Heat + some other elemental combo like you already have set up. And if your intention for the dual status mods isn't to strip armor quickly, switch to using the regular elemental mods.
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>>160675984
Only straight heat is buffed by accelerant-painted enemies.
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Haven't been on /wfg/ in awhile, how's The War Within? Worth the wait? When can us peasants expect it on console?
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>>160675672
I don't understand how they came up with it in the first place, normally you'd adjust stats to balance things out, if you are creative and not lazy you give them some useful gimmicks to fuck around with even if they are sub-par statwise. But no, DE decides to make a whole new plat-sink system which after five months they will completely forget about.
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>>160676384
Lol, burd.
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>>160676403
Yet another eximus stronghold assassination huh
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>>160674830
Yeah I think I'll do that in one of my configs and in the other one I'm gonna replace point strike with it since 76.7% is good enough for me, and the red crits have minimum chance to happen.
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>>160676403
its like yesterdays sortie but infested flavoured
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>>160676384
>how's The War Within? Worth the wait?
pic rel
>When can us peasants expect it on console?
spring 2017 :^)
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>>160676403
>stronghold assassination
>infested

WEW
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>>160676424
Making and abandoning systems is their forte

>Kubrow/Kavats
>Arsewing
>Multiple resource-of-the-month entries
>Dojo
>Dark Sectors
>Focus

>>160676384
Absolutely nothing DE could possibly have done within their powers could be worth the seven months we waited.
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>>160676568
>pic related
So it's so amazing it makes you scream with joy?
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>>160674830
And thank you 10o
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Is Warframe worth coming back to after two years of dropping it?
I keep hearing about people talking about it and I can't tell if it's better now or if it's just marketing.
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You and your heavy gunner girlfriend patrol the reactor room. Suddenly, this guy appears and slaps your girlfriend's ass with Fragor. What will you do?
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Has anyone had problems loading in and out of games recently? Ive got super long load screens since TWW and its irritating
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>>160676880
get clem, i've been gay for him for years anyway
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>>160676880
I prepare to prep the bull
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PS4 Shitter here. The Index 2 I think Event just released, how exactly do I do the Endurance for it to get the Event Sigil? I have to do it 100 times I believe.
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>>160676880
Kill him quickly when I realize he's a shitty tank at high levels
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>>160648252
Is Sancti Tigris better than Vaykor Hek?
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>>160676932
>get clem
He's on their side
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>>160677047
People use the sancti tigris?
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>>160676880

1v1 the scrub
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>>160677086
>what is steel meridian
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>>160676541
>>160676636
NP BB. The guns not really for corrosive stripping anyway and the 100% crit chance is more to me about consistent crits and consistent TTK
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>>160648327
>endurance predators
Humans are amazingly well adapted to boring, monotonous bullshit.
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>>160677047
if you only have to kill 1 thing? yeah, it can be

if you have to occasionally kill other things on the way to go kill that one thing, vhek is better
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So if I were to forma him to fill that last slot, what should I put in there?

Am I headed in the right direction?
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>>160676424
Minimum viable product

Doesn't matter if whatever gimmick of the month they've stolen from another game is unsustainable, doesn't even matter if they bleed off veterans/autists. Normal people run out of content by around MR 12, at which point they probably quit and get bored. These are the ones that overcame the initial slog. The ones that didn't quit after the intro tutorial and/or the first couple missions on mercury.

Game is targeted to casuals from MR 5-13ish most likely, because they're still in the honeymoon phase, and any grownass adult with a stable income can afford to drop 50$ if they only play casually, an hour or two a day, and/or weekends. Even if the game is shit. Especially if it saves them the tedium of endless repetitive grind.

To casuals who don't autistically examine every aspect of each release, this probably seems like fresh content, esp if it's reminiscent of other, more successful games. Even if it's just the same cloned content of previous updates given a minor update.

It's no longer about balance or sustainability or any sort of continuity. The infrastructure they have allows them to roll out updates masquerading as actual content without really doing much work. You think it actually took them any amount of time to come up with randomized mods when they all just copy and combine extant mods without regard for whether or not the weapons they're for can actually support them? They'll do rivens. Then shotguns. Then sidearms and melee. All the while interspersed with more palette swapped weapons, the occasional prime access, rewards, maybe a new thing from the void trader, an "event" that is a faction swapped clone of a previous event with slightly tweaked mechanics/rewards.

It's lazy shit piled on top of more lazy shit, all created with the least amount of time and effort, and prime access goys and forum shills will jerk off to it and lap it up
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>>160677132
I've no idea. That's why I asked.
>>160677409
Thanks.
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>>160677047
It's a good bow.
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>>160677573
>handspring
nice bait
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>>160657090
>still only one for NezHAAAAA
fug ov m9
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>>160677573
looks good senpai, but you're missing stretch
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>>160677573
>continuity
He really doesn't need that desu
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>>160676742
I came back after exactly two years back in Aug. Needed something mindless to consume me after my life fell apart. Grind is worse in different ways. Prime grind is easier, other things are more RNG, more artificially limited. If you've been gone for two years, a lot has changed and you may find it interesting to fiddle with. Taking the time to examine the mechanics/the decisions made will be frustrating because DE is still shit.

Accepting that it is shit and not holding out hope while embracing the comfyness of mindless grind makes it acceptable. I treat it the same way I'd treat coming home after work and watching a stupid show on Netflix for a few hours. Nostress. YMMV.
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Anyone know how i can fix my long load times? Im litterally loading in so later people are at extraction. Just started getting this issue with TWW
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>>160677573
Flow
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>>160678116
check your disk usage in the resource monitor, if it's at 100% while loading consider buying an ssd
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>>160678116
Switch off dx10 and dx11
optimize your fucking cache
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>>160678267
How about you consider fixing your fucking game Steve
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>want xiphos
>reactor sabotage cache
hell naw
>check market
>not a single seller

the suffering is real
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>>160678345
won't the dx10 and dx11 make it look even shittier?
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>>160678372
no
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>>160677576
>To casuals who don't autistically examine every aspect of each release, this probably seems like fresh content
Speaking as one of those casuals, I was pretty underwhelmed. There's a new tileset, but the Stalker color scheme makes me want to cut myself and listen to Linkin Park. Mods with random properties feels like a dumb idea whichever way you look at it. The one new story aspect introduced - the Grineer queens - is immediately killed off.
2/5 feels like a fanmade mod.
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>>160678372
fuck off give me money
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What the fuck do I pick?
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>>160678542
damage %.
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>>160678542
the left, if you get lucky it will cycle randomly between which element is "first" for combining with other mods
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>>160678415
>not a single seller
or
>people will jew you so hard you'll be wishing for hitler incarnation.

Choose your poison, choose wisely
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Can regular frame parts be traded? Farming the arena and Kela for a Saryn systems for Chroma is absolute prostate cancer. Epitome of bullet sponges.
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>Waiting 3 YEARS for the GLORIOUS GRINEER QUEENS
>You kill 1 after 3 years
>The fucking BATTLE IS A TUTORIAL

What in the flying fuck IS THIS SHIT
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>>160678652
no
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>>160678652
just wait until kela is an assassination target for sorties, you can grind her with no entry fee, unless you really need saryn/chroma now
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>>160678602
Why? Is 160% damage better than x2 100% elemental damages?
>>160678619
After 5 rerolls Idk if I'll want to keep doing it.
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>>160676264
Thanks ^.^
but wouldn't damage cap out at higher levels and a few bits of corrosion really bring it into the endgame levels?
>>160676267
hehe, I will get on that caliber, many thanks senpai

Isn't status chance something you always want to boost up as high as possible, even if you take a 15% damage cut?
>>160676375
Thank you! =D
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>>160675984
http://i.imgur.com/2taIRYg.png
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>>160678267
How do i do that exactly, like checking my physical memory usage?
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>>160678728
Well on the left you're locked in to gas damage(i think, not sure how it works), base damage will boost every other elemental mod you have, and the status penalty on the left is quite severe.
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>>160678791
1. press windows key
2. type "resource monitor"
3. ???
4. profit
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>>160678728
>Is 160% damage better than x2 100% elemental damages
yes because that 160 is BASE damage, meaning any other elemental mods you install will be that much stronger

>>160678739
>a few bits of corrosion really bring it into the endgame levels
yes corrosive will be on the whole much better than just going straight heat unless you're dealing with unarmored corpus/grineer, so do a bit of both and keep some status like you have already (swap to viral with elec->cold for unarmored/non-infested targets)
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Remember, you are NOT in Warbros if you don't have the official app.
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>>160678926
I have it but audeath doesn't give a fuck about this minimum viable product anymore, haven't opened the app in months since I have all the alert-exclusive shit now and haven't seen him login in like a year
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>>160674731
>Player's will lose
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Can i get mesa parts from sortie Mut Salad V?
btw i just got my daily riven mod :^)
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>>160678652
You can trade random shit for plat, and then use that to buy the frame you want. You can have a Chroma right away, you just have to drop 375.
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>>160676880
UTS UHT
UHF KLEM?!
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What's the "I want to melt this boss as fast as possible fuck you if I look like a big fat tryhard" primary?
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>>160679037
What you're problem... Why do you have to mock there effort!
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>>160679261
Using literally any of the four meta primaries will make you look like a sweaty tryhard, so give those a try.
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>>160678462
Randomized mods would be absolutely fine (even in their current fuckawful state) if they werent sortie restricted to 1/day.

Random stats work. They potentially shake up the meta. See Borderlands, see Diablo, etc.

The problem is that in order for random to work, you can't make it an unfun, slow, mandatory grind, limited by more slow l RNG with high potential to get itterly fucked after your hard work. The above games were fun for all their randomized bullshit gear because you'd be absolutely swimming in that shit just for playing normally.

If rivens were part of the drop tables, part of the reward tables, if all the other reward tables werent pointlessly diluted with endo or level inappropriate mods or other garbage, then they would be a good system.

Unfortunately they're obviously also an unscrupulous attempt to inject more cash into the game, sort of double dipping prime access and testing the waters with a lottery system. It circulates the existing plat around which in turn will make the whales buy the next PA for more plat and so on and so forth. Creating artificial demand by limiting availability, and it being unsustainable doesn't matter if they abandon this and try a different gimmick or mechanic in a few months.
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>>160678782
I'll give it a whirl, comrade!
also, dat 104% status proc....

>>160678916
hmmm

I'll play around with some of that viral for a while, see if thinks look chipper.

also, are the aux mods like Firestorm and Sinister Reach worth it?
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>it's a 2k endo sortie
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>>160644001
>the burst fire mechanic is forever bugged and will never be fixed
Been playing this game for nearly two years, never noticed anything wrong with burst weapons at all, other than the fact that they're generally weak.
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>>160679014
this, even if de release new helmets you can get them in like a week after release or DE will sleek it to not be in the alert system like the wukong, altas, and nezha alt helmets that one time.
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>>160679517
>It's a focus lens episode
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>>160679384
Random mods with random stats don't work unless theyre super transparent as to what the max stats are and how long it takes for the average person to get the best possible stat distribution(if you think there won't be one for every weapon type you're delusional.)

That's my issue with the mods. You can't tell how many days/years you have to grind to reach the max and can finally leave that shit behind you. Power progression is never fun long term, but its easy to create so every dev just does that over creating new content that interacts with old one in interesting ways.
The only use Rivens have is to make it impossible to minmax easily and encourage plat sales, basically allowing DE to sell game balance.
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>>160679517
>>160679580
>it's a riven mod again
>>
>get riven mod
>its grinlok

I don't think I have ever seen anyone besides myself using grinlok and that only for MR fodder
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>>160678542
Right.
Grinlok is a status gun with okay crit status.

Left side has a bad element order (blast/toxin, rad/toxin or gas) + crit DMG doesn't help much since it's got meh base crit chance, the penalty kills its gimmick.

Right side boosts raw damage (which means it indirectly also boosts your elementals) and raises sustained DOS with the reload boost, esp since Grinlok has shitty base reload. Built in infested bane is just a bonus.
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>>160679612
>DE is not allowed to turn a profit
????
?
?
????
?

?
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>>160679806
I use it on Mesa with the Marecock and (insert Grineer gunblade yet to be released.)
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160679913

that's a shitty bait and you know it
>>
War Without when?
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>>160679924
I dropped the Marelok because of the shitty ass spin after shoot animation. not a fan of that
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>>160679913
Not by making players who pay the most the most powerful, no. And no, "lol balance in PvE" isn't a fucking reason.
They knew full well people will only concentrate on getting Meta Rivens for Meta weapons or the ones that Rivens will turn into meta weapons, which will a handful, just like we have now.
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>>160680092
If you shoot faster it doesn't do that anymore. Not on my end, anyway.

>>160680063
See pic.
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>>160680092
>He doesn't like the spin
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>>160674283
Frost and Ember are that expensive only for their rarity
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>>160679895
>>160678853
>>160678916

Well thank you guys, unfortunately I'm a fucking retard and kept the first one before you gave me those replies.
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>He's still playing Warframe.
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>>160680006
(>in aggp voice) I know even the question mark thing didn't turn out so well


>>160680000
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Would you a Banshee?
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So are bad weapons GUARANTEED to get better Riven Mods or simply MORE LIKELY to get better ones?
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>>160680635
Who?
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>>160680092
>not loving this shit
what's wrong with you?

>>160679806
I like it, it's a garbage weapon but it's literally a not-sawed-off grinlok and it was an early love for me

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CNtzE7BTUV8&feature=youtu.be&t=3210
>we will never have twin mareloks
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>>160680272
>get a decent reroll on an already good set of modifiers
>decide to humblebrag my modest success
>A or B guys???
>Everyone says B
>ask why
>everyone gives reasons
>well I chose A
gj sempai
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>>160680652
T-that frame that hums you to sleep?
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>>160680946
Meant for >>160680669

>>160680652
Also to answer you, it seems like it, I mean someone earlier got a +300% damage Miter.
>>
>1 hour after sortie reset
>no europe squads for 2nd mission
>300 ping limit

DEAD
E
A
D
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>>160681159
>be euro
>start sortie 15 minutes after reset
>done 15 minutes later
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>>160680652
Neither. Bad weapons draw from the same pool of attributes as good ones. The difference is in degree.

A good weapon gets nerfed stats. (ie +50% DMG) while a bad weapon gets buffed stats (+200% DMG)

However, just because something needs a particular set of attributes doesn't mean it'll get it. You still get miters that do +200% crit DMG, +300% crit rate, even if miter can't actually crit.
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Um...what melee weapons pairs good with Primed Pressure Point?
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>>160680841
By the time I chose the first one no one gave me explanations on why B was better.
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>trying to solo the sortie's mutalist salad v
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>>160681607
well you can still try combing the heat/tox one with other mods and see which damage type you get, it'll be a laugh since apparently it's fucking random
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>>160681697
I've had that setup since roll 2, and kinda works, crits are ok, but still not enough to make Grinlok worth it.
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>>160681584
wat
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>>160681584
*sigh* Um... errrr... uh... can you, like, not? Ugh, don't ask such hard questions, it's not like we're rocket scientists. *shrug*
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>>160679517
>got 2k all week
>diddnt play fri or sat
>try the sortie before it reset
>get riven mod
ez
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>>160681584
None of them, absolutely terribad.
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>>160657278
Wait, what? What happened to excavations?
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>>160680652
I'm a master scrub with terrible luck and even I get good karak mods, only got a few bad rolls. Most are decent. So yeah, I think bad weapons get a pretty heavy bonus.
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>>160657278
you're farming the wrong excavations m8
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should I drop split chamber for this? or should I just reroll to get rid of the negative multishot?
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>>160681584
Plasma Sword.
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>2k meme

i came back for this
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>>160682267
>Should I remove multishot for negative multishot?
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>>160682430
Considering the pattern I got my stuff, I am getting Endo soon sadly.
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>>160682267
>>
Should I even bother maxing Serration, or should I wait for next Baro visit to bring us Primed Serration?
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>>160680652
Riven mods have RNG bullshit you might get 80% or 90% crit for example.

There's an effectiveness multiplier for certain non-meta weapons and meta weapons: the same Riven that might give 85% crit chance, crit damage, and -25% damage vs infested would have like 130% crit chance, crit damage, and -45% damage vs infested on a Grinlok or something. The negatives get multiplied too because DE can't into balance.

Check void glitch's datamined tables for the effectiveness multipliers on all weapons.
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>>160682687
>primed serration
>he belives this

DE has been trying to get rid of damage mods since they realised they cant into math
it aint coming. neither is primed steamline
>>
>vauban prime is out
>his arcane esprit helmet still only sells for ~100p

what the fuck
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>When you finally put together all the weapons you want
I can only hope it's a while until they bring new weapons out that I'm interested in.
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>>160682916
>useless things don't sell for a high price

woah
>>
>>160682818
Are you really sure about that? We got Primed Pressure Point. Never underestimate DEs retardation.
>>
Finally got one for one of my pet weapons. It's not the ignus or karak, but I'll enjoy my shitty cosplay setup A little more once I reroll this into something not as bad.1
>>
>>160682267
Ouch. Not sure if multishot can actually go negative but your mod is probably lower DPS than say, argon scope or bladed rounds when put in the free slot (split chamber included)

Multishot is just that good, and negative is that bad.
>>
>>160682687
>>160683104
serration is already an r10 mod retard. Prime mods take r3 or r5 mods and turn them into r10s.
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>>160683147
Whoops. Anyways riven mods work on prime variants, right?
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>>160683182
ah ok, wasnt sure just how good multishot was, thanks.
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>whisper/invite someone
>accidentally click "add friend" instead of "invite" or "talk"
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>>160683574
this JUST happened to me
>>
>>160683320
Yes
>>
Hol yshit what does DE have agaisnt mutagen masses?

There are rarely even a 2 MM invasion and thanks to teh "great" new system whenever i could do it they are survival, defense, mobile defense or other bullshits

Any other wasy to get these fucks?
>>
>inb4 Valkyr Prime requires Kuva
>>
>>160683574
happens so often in trade chat
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>>160683903

>mutagen masses

[triggered]
>>
>>160684064
after i got everything i stoped doing useless shits, but now taht fucking catasomething schyte needs 10 and i cant be arsed to log in for anything less than 2-3
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>>160684264
>>160684064
Get ready for Infested Frame requiring 20.
5 for each part.
>>
>>160684064
>>160683903
>>160684417
fuuuuuck, thanks for reminding me, I have 48 fucking detonite from when I used to raid but only 13 each of fieldron/mutagen
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>>160679806
>Want Grinlok mod
>Get Penta instead

o-ok
>>
Do I really have to grind spy missions endlessly just to get serration and hornet strike? Im on mission number eleven and all my rewards have been credits and relics
I cant kill shit without dumping full mags into anything
>>
does smeeta actually help with kuva? does the resource amount booster help?
>>
>>160684742
did you just start the game or why don't you have them?

post ign, there is probably a kind 10o in here who can give you that shit for free
>>
>>160684809
Yes, Kurwa is affected by smegma and resource boosters
>>
>>160684742
No, anon. You can just buy them for platinum. If you don't have enough, you can get more through the official site. You support this great game and the hardworking devs who are easily the best in the industry and also get to advance faster in the game. It's the smart choice!
>>
shit

someone break down this new relic system to me please I am literally retarded from dicks in my brain


I picked a key that had saryn prime bp as a chance drop, 3 other pubbies, I didn't get anything and wasn't able to choose a reward
what gives?
>>
Why does every fucking corpus weapon require a forma
>>
>>160684860
Im on ps4 though
>>
>>160684928
5 Platinum has been transferred to your account

>>160684976
you need to go in to relic missions, there you need to pickup 10 reactant at the end of the mission for every 10o who picked up all the reactant you can chose between the rewards
>>
>>160684976
Lotus literally tells you what to do three fucking times in a row every time you do a fissure run.

Locate void jizz that drops from enemies. slurp up 10 helpings of it. receive reward.
>>
>>160684976
you didn't collect enough reactant fucker

>>160685030
all faction-specific guns researched in the dojo needs forma
>>
>>160684742
what's your IGN? I have a couple extr-
>>160685060
I'm so sorry.
Do you not have an ok enough computer to play the game on?
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>>160684898
>Kurwa is affected by smegma
>>
>>160685082
>>160685084
>>160685105
oh shit I see

How do I make pub T4 defense go by faster? Usually pick rhino and stomp so shitters stop dying, but that usually makes the wave drag on because they get stasis'd behind walls and shit
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>>160685129
You heard me.
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>>160685112
My fucking 2009 laptop used to run warframe better than my current PC, and Ive got too many bills and shitty jobs to afford an upgrade. I used to remember the game to be actually well optimized and sleek, now on my better PC it runs at 40fps for about a minute before tanking to 6 even on lowest settings.
>>
>>160685219
Nova, Banshee, Mesa or Equinox can speed things up a lot. Nova is probably your best choice if you're this green.
>>
guys, I started with madurai school but I think I fucked up. should I switch to naramon? Im looking for an all-rounder school
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>>160685448
something like this?

I haven't played in 3 years, dont have equi or mesa, but I have banshee
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>>160679806
Jokes on you it's my fav wepaon.
>>
>>160684742
just ask for an unranked one in region or trade, some whiteknigth will surely help you out (if you are lucky they might aslo give some other shit for starup)
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>>160683098
>increases max power by 10%
>looks baller as fuck
>useless

WEW
>>
>>160685695
duration is all that matters for m prime, take out overextended, get your narrow minded to max rank
>>
>>160685816
10% is nothing and the version that doesn't cost plat looks exactly as "baller" you meme-spouting nigger
>>
>>160685816
>15 points

Meme all yeh want lad, Esprit a shit.
>>
do i build zhuge for crit or raw damage?
>>
>>160685601
zenurik is literally the best school for 99% of all time spend in warframe

you cannot beat 4 energy per second passive regen except with maybe the assassination school for special snowflake ash builds or some shit
>>
new dead when?

>>160686051
you build it for mastery and trash it at 30
>>
>>160685908
I thought the point of nova prime in defense was maximum range so enemies get sped up at a larger distance
>>
>>160678658
>Waiting 3 YEARS for the GLORIOUS GRINEER QUEENS
>You kill 1 after 3 years
>Tenno claims he killed the queenS (plural)
One job.
>>
>>160678926
Sorry i rather not download a virus on my new apple phone
>>
>>160686185
maxrange with negative power is the speednova build

you still want duration so it spreads further
>>
Hi guys, where i can get argon crystal? i'm trying void missions but i'm not finding any crystal
>>
Holy shit even teh blueprints for mutagen mass are one time? What the fuck?
>>
>>160686607
>i'm trying void missions but i'm not finding any
then try harder
>>
>>160686607
continue trying
>>
>>160686659
>>160686659
>>160686659

fresh ded here
>>
>>160686569
>maxrange with negative power is the speednova build
so why is
>>160685908
telling me to remove 90% range mod
>>
>>160680635
AHAHAHAHAHAHA

Never. I'd rather an Oberon.
>>
>>160686779
because you need to read up on how molecular prime actually works
>>
>>160683917
>available on consoles at the same time as PC
>no TWW
REALLY. MAKES. ME. THINK.
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>>160684742
Everest - Earth is Serration City madude
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