/twg/ - Total War General

>>160499493
Threadly reminder that the following are rightful Asur clay, and therefore rightful Asrai clay so from now on please refer to them with their correct names.
Athel Toralien - Dietershafen
Sith Rionnasc - Marienburg
Kor Vanaeth - Altdorf
Athel Maraya - Talabheim
Athel Numiel - Kislev
Tor Alessi - L'Anguille
Thank you

>people think it's only leadership bonuses the AI gets on higher battle difficulties

>>160499634
To be honest they should remove the combat difficulty entirely and just focus on campaign difficulty.

>>160499634
holy fuck, but what AI gets in higher difficulties, say it already

>>160499682
Its all in the game files if you can be bothered to open the database editor. I would but im not on my main computer. This is what CA said though.

>In battles, there's a mix of either skewing stats in favour of the player (easy) or the AI (hard).
>For example:
>Morale Easy
Player +-0
>AI -8
>Morale Very Hard
>Player -5
>AI +10
>There are similar modifiers to both melee and ranged stats.
https://forums.totalwar.com/discussion/173751/can-we-please-get-the-info-what-the-difficulty-settings-change-from-easy-to-legendary/p1

TLDR version CA cant into real difficulty options

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>>160499493
friendly reminder that playing on anything below legendary is extremely, tremendously GAY

"Uhm, I don't have all modifiers in my head and I'm really lazy today :).

On very hard, AI gets roughly 12% more melee skills & damage, 12% faster reload, more accuracy, more charge bonus...
This is all kept under the hood and will not show in the UI. Also likely to get tweaked once we get stats in from hundred thousands of players.

What do you need a full list for? If it was super game-changing important, we could move those modifiers to the database in the future, making them moddable."

-Ato CA

>>160499875
>playing a broken version of the game
Fuck off Radious.

>>160499875

There is literally nothing wrong with being gay.

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D R A G O N

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>>160499493
Rollan!

working on the new version already

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

ROME

>>160499918
this is so outdated that you should be killed

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>>160499913

>dat peasant on the left

h-hiyah!

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>>160499828
>TLDR version CA cant into real difficulty options
literally every single game, especially every single strategy game works like that

>>160499903
>hating fun, there is absolutely no challenge at all in the game below legendary

>>160500010
>literally every single game, especially every single strategy game works like that
No they dont, nearly all of them change campaign factors, not combat factors.

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G O B L I N S

>>160500010
>>hating fun, there is absolutely no challenge at all in the game below legendary
Except thats not true at all. VH/L campaign is challenging, but the combat difficulty is irrelevant for challenge. All it does is force you to not use certain units. You might as well just turn off all units below a set amount of moral.

Thats why they put in the ability to change combat AI, they know its a shitty mechanic.

>>160499965
WHAT THE FUCK ARE YOU EVEN TALKING ABOUT???

I know and I'm sorry ;_;

>>160500010
>that underage BF logic
>my game is not as casual as your game so its hardcore!!11!
There is no challenge on any difficulty for any TW game, go play a GSG if you want a challenge.

>>160500039
in total war both campaign and combat factors change

I want to play with dragons but mannfred is fucking shit

Who do I play?

>>160500252
Thank you Captain Obvious, are you going to tell me the sky is blue next?

>>160500130
>All it does is force you to not use certain units
not really certain units become more shitty but they are usable, there were anons here who did an all gobbo legendary campaigns BEFORE Skarsnik

>>160500203
>go play a GSG if you want a challenge.

>gsg
>challenge

>>160500318
>TW
>harder than GSG
Oh, you're trolling. Nevermind.

>>160499875
No, it's fun. Playing only legendary would be incredibly tedious.
t. has completed numerous legendary campaigns

>>160500263

>Mannlet
>Shit

What? He's like the most versatile dude on the battlefield.

>>160500318
>there were anons here who did an all gobbo legendary campaigns BEFORE Skarsnik
No, they didnt, they had to rely on high moral units to win because goblins were literally unusable.

You've already lost face on this, no more replies for you.

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>>160500041
Goblins...

>>160500263
Dragons are fairly shit and never justify their price, High Elves might have some semi decent ones though.

>>160500318
>there were anons here who did an all gobbo legendary campaigns BEFORE Skarsnik
Gee I wonder if that has anything to do with the fact the auto resolver is broken. You realize you can auto resolve a victory of 20 goblins vs 10 great swords even though the great swords literally could not lose.

>>160500203
Recruit a generic Lord and train him up until you can put him on a dragon?

In my last Chaos campaign, I just recuited a second lord, transg´ferred all the units to him and got Sigvald killed in an autoresolve.

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>>160500041
Old hat now gobbo, step aside

Lore-wise, what other races are Wood Elves capable of getting along with?

>>160499875
Nah, I like actually having fun in my campaigns.

>>160500365
legendary limits savescumming and pausescumming though

>>160500572
They mix fine with humans when I eat them together

>>160500572
A shrubbery.

>>160500572

Brettonia, sort of...As long as Brettonia continues to "lose" young boys and they dont mind the occasional wild hunt. And Brettonia doesn't look at their forests funny.

Also they seem fond of Karl Franz. But dont really hold any love for the empire.

>>160500572
High Elves, maybe Empire.

They also have no real beef with either Tomb Kings or Lizardmen.

>>160500632
It isn't hard not to do those things yourself and you avoid all the obnoxious features of legendary.

>>160500632
So does not being a shitty human.

>>160499918
Vlad von Carstein

>>160499918
Give me something bad

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attila is the best total war desu

>>160499918

THEY HAVE WRONGED US.

>>160500676
Not him but tell me which features do you find obnoxious on legendary?

>>160500819
Until Total War; Renaissance comes out.

>>160500819
aaaaaaaaaaaahhhh rome

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>>160500915
I hope its total war age of discovery, or Empire 2

>>160500954
Its not Empire 2, its a new time period.

Also, fuck Empire, and fuck pure gun TW games, they are boring as shit. Yeah, I said it.

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>>160501020
>pure gun TW games,
you can play as the savages though, also they have the best naval combat, and the only truly functional MP

>>160501020
I hope your ass gets really itchy and your arms will be too short to reach

>>160501075
They are boring as fuck because the whole focus is just line warfare. All you're doing is fighting 1 enemy and 1 tactic over and over.

Honestly every other TW game feels like ash in my mouth in comparison to playing TWW now. I really hope the next historical TW game follows TWW and makes sure each faction is really unique.

>>160500954
This would be the dream, but it's probably not it.

If the new one is total war: chingchongplingplong, I will storm the CA offices and murder everyone.

>>160501190
>total war: chingchongplingplong
I really dont understand why people want that shit. We have Shogun 2, and the chingchong tactics was almost identical.

>>160501262

Chingchong would probably have dynasty warrior tier shit in it

>lone general singlehandedly routs 5 birrion chink levies

>>160501285
dude mangafox is gonna find you and fuck you up bro

>>160501148
>and 1 tactic over and over
and every non line warfare tw is also 1 tactic, hammer and anvil simulator
>TWW and makes sure each faction is really unique.
bah, they don't even feel that different, and a lot of their "oh so unique features" are literally straight out of Attila

>>160501325
>CA has been talking about how they will bring the uniqueness of each faction in the warhammer setting into a historical one.
>their solution will be to make it a fantasy take on history

PLEASE don't be this. That sounds horrible.

>>160501325
>TW; Ching comes out
>Sells like shit, because it isnt Western warfare so people dont know or care about it
>Meanwhile, TWW is still selling like mad because we cant stop giving CA money for actually unique factions and actually interesting battles
>TW History dies
>TWW finally gets finished and a new game is announced
>Total War; Age of Mythology
A man can dream

>>160501402
>bah, they don't even feel that different, and a lot of their "oh so unique features" are literally straight out of Attila
I dont even have a response to someone spouting such reckless idiocy.

>>160501417
Total War Tamriel is next.

>>160501521
oh dear fucking god please no

I got a couple questions I don't really know Warhammer lore and shit.

Is the game set in the end times or whatever? I thought everyone dies.

Why the fuck can't I colonise the badlands as the vampires it's not like the place would be too alien. Dwarves can but the undead can't?

>>160501480
>the wood elves have to build wonders to win! so unique
literally just slavic victory conditions
>vampires have no archers OMG, amazing
numerous factions in attila have no archers
>this faction is unique they get are high damage, low morale and low tankiness faction with vanguard deployment!
literally just celts from Attila

the biggest disappointment in warhmmer is the magic though, 90% of all spells are just reskins, with boring mechanics and lame as fuck visuals and sound

hell tanookhids are more different from say huns, than beastmemes from chaos

>>160501584
>Is the game set in the end times or whatever?
No, its set in the period before the end times.

End times everyone dies, then comes back in a new plane of existence basically.

>Why the fuck can't I colonise the badlands as the vampires it's not like the place would be too alien. Dwarves can but the undead can't?
Thats just how the lore works for different factions. Some factions never went into those lands or cared for them so you cant take them.

>>160501562
>he doesn't want to remind all of Tamriel that Skyrim belongs to the Nords as he conquers the known world

I know for a FACT your ancestors aren't smiling on you because you're a giant faggot.

>>160501592
I know you're trolling, so you might as well give up.

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>>160501690
>nords

>>160501417
it would sell well in china

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>>160501521
I wish

>>160501724
China has its own strategy/tactic hybrid games, whereas TW has little to no competition here in the West. It would be suicide.

>>160501690
>Nords
Nords are cancer, Skyrim literally killed them
pre skyrim nords are fine

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>>160501713
>warhammer is unique meme
and you cant refute a single point I made

>>160501806
See >>160501713

>>160501774
True, but remember how badly the Chinese sperged out when they found out now TW:W for them? They probably want to give Total War a try at least.

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>>160501848
no u

>>160501874
I'm sure the dozen or so Total War ripoffs that are badly made and really just viruses that steal their credit card details are good enough for them for now.

>>160501883
See >>160501713

>>160501918
whats the difference

>>160501973
kek

>>160501926
See >>160501713

>>160501584

>Is the game set in the end times or whatever?

No.

The game is it's own unique thing and is timelocked in the year Karl Franz was elected Emperor, which is 20 years prior to the End Times.

>>160502004
Im not trolling so that doesnt work. You made an argument and I proved you wrong so you resorted to shitposting to save face.

But here is your final reply, you can have the last word and pretend you won.

>Anime degenerates

Elder Scrolls already comes with a bullshit mechanic so they really could just do whatever the fuck they want and explain it away as a dragon break. Plus the races are diverse enough to be a decent game.

>>160502159
>Plus the races are diverse enough to be a decent game.
Are you kidding. Its a bunch of human and elf factions plus two furrybait factions. All of which have a single fight style they use over and over.

It would be boring as fuck.

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>>160502074
>and I proved you wrong
where? is this >>160501521 proof?

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>>160502230
woops wrong quote I mean to ask if this >>160501480 is your way of "proving wrong"

>>160499634
I just wish they'd kept separate campaign and battle difficulty sliders.

I've got nothing against getting swamped with 10:1 hoards of foes, but when they're levy units fighting to the last man - then I've got a problem.

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>>160502308
>I just wish they'd kept separate campaign and battle difficulty sliders.
but they have, when you start a game you can go into the difficulty settings, and turn battle difficulty down to easy like the little scrub you are

>>160502308
>I just wish they'd kept separate campaign and battle difficulty sliders.
Its in the options menu when you start the game anon...

Only legendary cant be changed individually.

>>160502186
That's not even true, all the regions have different clans/cultures just based on the games we have not including shit in the lore that never actually shows up in the series.

>High Rock is basically the Empire start in TW:W with dozens of different kingdoms + Redguards and Orcs to the south
>2 completely different Khajiit Kingdoms with a dozen different breeds of cat
>Cyrodiil has at least two different cultures like the Colovians and then the influence of the other provinces on the borders
>Morrowind has 5 seperate houses all with different interests and strengths
Granted the Nords, Altmer and especially Argonians would basically be the same among their own races but they could work something out.
>

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SACREBLEU!

>>160502424
I am so glad TES is never getting a TW game because everything you just said sounds as boring and shitty as I just described it.

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All men must die, but we are not men

>>160502489
k

>>160502610
>>160502461

>all these images of WE fighting brets

b-but why?

>>160502693
Sometimes uppity humans have to be put back in their place

>>160502734
Whats wrong? Not kawaii uguu enough for you?

>>160502536
why are their tits so low?

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>>160502750

Day of the Rake soon

Why do I get the feeling that if you go with Treebeard you get fuck all archers and get kited to death because you're all fucking trees and the only way to get skirmish units is to spend MUH SUPER SPECIAL RARE RESOURCE!!

Also will you be able to build walls/garrison and shit on the shitty settlement lite set or is defending just a pain in the ass

>>160502820
>Why do I get the feeling [insert bad thing here when we dont actually know how its going to work]
Because you're jaded and cynical

>>160502846
Beastmen.

>>160502852
That looks like rapebait for beastmen
We need STRONG WYMEN

>>160502693
From what I understand the wood elves sometimes flip out and go on a wild hunt, killing everyone close. The brets are the closest.

Lorewise, where does Karl Franz rank on a powerranking scale?

Is he also the Hulk Hogan of the Empire, or "just" the perfect statesman?

>>160503029

Prince AND Emperor

>>160503029
He is ok at fighting, but nothing crazy like in game. He can sometimes go super sayan to 1 v 1 some mothrfucker, but lore-wise even ordinary chaos warriors can rival him unless he goes into "avatar of sigmar" End Times bullshit. He has big fucking bird though, so it evens things out.

>>160503029
Fairly normal dude strenght wise, though Ghal Maraz is perhaps the strongest magical weapons in existence, with the possible exceptio of the sword used to kill Nagash, which tends to kill its wielder after a while.

>>160503029
cute shota, protectable smile

Will the elf lords get eagle mounts?

>>160502820
Amber is only required for elite/rare units
I'm sure everyone will have access to basic wood elf infantry, just stuff like waywatchers and treeman ancients will be restricted.

>>160502693
Brets are bad guys

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>>160503247
Wood elves were hitting on him since childhood.

>>160502461
You can actually see dryads on this picture

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>>160503029
The birb and Ghal Maraz are the only reasom he can stand up to stuff like Greenskin Warbosses and proper Vampires, he's about as skilled as you'd expect your slightly-above-average germanic prince to be

>>160502871
Are shit. And?

Just because X happened doesnt mean X always happens, that is a fallacy that children know is false.

>>160503341
>comes out of the woods
>heh nothing personel beastmen
>disappears mysteriously

elves confirmed edgelord autists?

>>160503442
It took you this long to find out?

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>>160503375
>>160503145
>>160503140

>sends Madman Marius to his death against Vorgaz
>Finishes the wounded orc warboss and takes all the credit

He is also a brilliant tactian

Can we expect some info dump today? Maybe a quest battle stream?

>>160502802
haven't you ever seen a REAL womyn before?? heh

>>160503325
Name ONE thing they've done that makes them bad guys

>>160502802
The Asrai lack support

>>160502802
Because they don't wear push up bras?

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JUST SAW WOOD ELVES ON THE STEAM PAGE

WHEN THE FUCK THIS THIS HAPPEN

>>160503947
Feudalism

>>160500259
S...sauce?

>>160503947

90% taxes

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>>160500467
GOBLINS

Lorehammer or Steel Faith Overhaul?

>>160501285
I've alerted mangafox to the theft of their bandwidth.

Enjoy your liberty and ill-gotten bandwidth while you can, thief.

>>160504063
Goblins are not for sexual, especially with filthy stunties

>>160504002
>>160504037
>>160503997
Bretonnian Knights are LITERALLY, FIGURATIVELY and ABSTRACTLY the only good guys in the Warhammer universe.

Prove me wrong faggots

>>160504080
Vanilla

>>160504037
>90% taxes


citation needed

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>>160504103
Thanks, have a best elf.

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>>160504169

Straight from the Bretonnia rulebook

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>>160503029

>>160504452
>90% taxes

Bretonnians confirmed for filthy socialists.

>>160503991
Just after you moved in under your new rock.

>>160504080
neither

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when?

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>wood elves can't build walls for their settlements
>AI magically knows which settlements are unwalled through the fog of war
>skaeling make a beeline straight for unwalled settlements in athel loren
>varg make a beeline straight for unwalled settlements in athel loren
>warriors of chaos make a beeline straight for unwalled settlements in athel loren
>greenskins make a beeline straight for unwalled settlements in athel loren
>kislev make a beeline straight for unwalled settlements in athel loren
>middenland & nordland make a beeline straight for unwalled settlements in athel loren
>karak hirn, norn, ziflin, and zhufbar make a beeline straight for unwalled settlements in athel loren
>mfw

>>160504921

athel loren bukkake

>>160504921

They said the forest had a different kind of defense. Yet to find out what it is exactly though.

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>>160499594
Sorry I'm late. Had to exterminate some daemons.

>>160504984
attrition probably, which considering that the AI barely suffers from attrition is a total joke

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>>160499493
I fell for the Kyomi meme. 0 taxable income, 0 increase in taxable income

traded 2 endgame techs for it, already cleaned off america, i was just eager to get any city to get started east with

>>160504921
>>AI magically knows which settlements are unwalled through the fog of war

So do the player 2bh. Never really understood the problem. The AI knows its chances of winning a siege battle is way lower. They will attack with sufficient numbers though.

>>160505137
what were you thinking

>>160504921
Is that male or female, I can't tell with elves.

does it matter with elves?

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YESTERDAY WAS THE DAY

>>160503103
I want to fug a woof eld boi

>>160504037
>not going 100%


Disapointing

>>160502734
They look exactly like that dyke elf cunt from Dragon Age Inquisition

>>160505203

>tfw it won't be The Day for another 2 months

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>no, dark elves

ONE FUCKING JOB

Today is the day!

>>160505373
I think you need your eyes checke, anon.

>>160505373
WOOD ELVES CONFIRMED TRASH

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>>160502734

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>>160505447

>>160501075
why is yours grey instead of white, a DLC change?

>>160505373
>>160505662
>Deleted

A..are there Welf lewds?

>you can recruit more than one shaggoth

What? Since when?

>>160505736
Nah, just some lard ass whining about how the wardancers don't look like the underage girls in his chinese carttons.

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Any stream announced yet?
I hope Grace going to be in, and cosplay as qt wood elf

>>160502536
>three warrior welfs will never kidnap you and keep you as a mindbroken sex slave

>>160504897
What movie is that?

>>160505921

No.

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>>160505116
>AI barely suffers from attrition

Seems to work well against undead, empire and greenskin armies from my experience.

>mfw vampire counts try to send an expedition against me to Altdorf

>>160505921
Have the decency to post with a tripcode so that people can filter you more easily.

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>>160505061
Is this the sort of game we're going to keep playing?

How do I survive the 3 fucking full stacks of goblins as Angrund?

>>160506243
>goblins
just swing a broom at them or something

Who has the quickest short campaign goals?
I want to finish something with what time I have this weekend.

>>160506243
Which difficulty, which turn are you on, whose 3 goblin stacks

>>160506316
Turn 20 fucking crooked moon shits

They can't take my city but I can't leave and they're all raiding if not sieging so I'm losing money

It's been like this for a while with Skarsnik failing to take it and then coming back later

>>160505373

They are miles ahead than that stuck up cunt, at least appearance wise

Solas a best

>>160506369
Spam stack an army, get lightning strike. As early as possible if possible. When under siege counter-attack & use lightning strike to take out 1/3 armies at once. Exploit gobbo's low leadership with ranged superiority and morale-devastating artillery if possible.

>>160506369
Do you have any money in the bank? If you do hire a lord to defend whichever city is most vulnerable. It's ok to lose income as long as you're not actually going bankrupt
With your main stack go take over his cities.

Just bought WE DLC. But I seem to be missing White Dwarf one.

How do I get it if there is no GW store in my country?

>>160505790
Since always.

>>160506560
Ebay, buy the magazine online & get it shipped or beg online.

>>160502461
>>160503365
And wildwood rangers.

>>160506560
Wait until January when it becomes free for everyone

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>>160506240
Until all elves are dead.

>>160506298
Drofs? You can easy steamroll greenskins and when chaos attack just confederate with other dorfs and kill edgelord

>>160505734
a mod

>>160506039
I take it you don't play on max difficulty

>>160499918
'ERE WE GO!

Handsome AND lethal

>>160506885
Rerollan, don't have poo poo pee pee

>>160506945
fetch me my mirror shield

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AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAthel loren

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>>160506969
w-well ok then...

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>>160507068

That meme wasn't even present in the trailer you goof

>>160507125
I know but it's still a funny meme

King & Warlord trailer release was hilarious

>>160506824
I play on Very Hard/Very Hard.

Coming soon!
>Glade Guard (handguns)
>Wardancers (2-handed hammers, heavy armour)
>Tree Kin (flaming attacks)
>Warhawk Riders (irondrake riders)
>Black Orc Stag Riders
>Wild Rider Squig Hoppers
>Treeman (mounted on anvil of doom)
t. Radious

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>>160501521
>Total War Tamriel
>dunmer campaign
>your lord/hero slain by Morag Tong cause other houses envy you
>every fuckin turn

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>>160507260
>t. Radious

Not anymore

*dabs away*

>>160507260
>Treeman (mounted on anvil of doom)

Do it

>>160507068
dryad slayers (mounted)

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>>160507201
weird, I played on legendary and in 100% vamp lands, attacking factions would lose like 5-6 men per turn, on ultra unit size

>>160507263
>your noblewoman fucks a khajit in plain site in a tavern
> -10 integrity (all forces)
> trait gained "Cuckold"

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>>160507310

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>>160507201

>"Our mercenaries in the East report that he has forged an alliance with the Greenskin Tribes of Death Pass. He intends to circumnavigate the Karaz-Ankor and march his army-"
>"OVER THE WORLD'S EDGE MOUNTAINS PERHAPS!"
>"He would lose half his army to Hobgoblin raiders alone, the other half will desert!"
>"Do you expect the Orcs to welcome him when he arrives?"
>"I suppose he will bring with him AN ARMY OF THUNDERTUSKS!"
>"I dare say that would be quite a feat, even for the great Greasus Goldtooth"

I solved my GOBLIN issue. I restarted the campaign, took Karak Bhufdar then just went straight to the goblin home and fucked them. The shitheads that normally die to them didn't like me trespassing but they can right fuck off or it's into the book for them.

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>>160507507
>at turn 40 you always have the same special event
>your faction leader betrayed and killed

So if the next game expansion features four races, is it going to look like:
High Elves
Dark Elves
Skaven
Lizardmen

With the final expansion being:
Tomb Kings
Ogre Kingdoms
Chaos Dwarfs
Daemons of Chaos

Both expanding west and east/south respectively?

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>>160507310
Radious is back. He updated his mod.

t. someone who plays using Radious unironically

>>160507539
>tfw Greasus almost beat Grimgor in the End Times and only lost because he got cocky and tried to strangle him to death instead of just crushing him with his club.

>>160505447
They'll be in the first major expansion with HElves, so stop raging or Grombrindal will get your arse.

>>160506560
>Wait until January when he is free for everybody
>Get the magazine online
>Suck dicks in exchange for it

>>160503029
For all the times other characters get called that, he's quite the Sue

>prince
>emperor
>greatest statesman 4EVAH&EVAH
>everyone loves him of course
>some dudes hate him but obviously just because they're so mad with envy at him being so great

And it still would be fine if he was the pen pusher type that's good at logistics but not in combat, but then

>he's so great that he tames deathclaw
>of course deathclaw is the greatest ever too
>always on the first line during battles

Well, at least he's still human right? There are things that even he can't defeat right? WRONG!

>he goes super-saiyan-unberogen when he has to fight against an orc warboss so he 1v1s him literally because he remembered humans used to be barbarians and that somehow makes them stronger than orcs

But obviously if any other character in the setting manages to achieve half of that he's hated as all hell.

>everybody bitched about beastmen price
>they do it again with wood elves

Fuck this shit.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ynyerF9qXU

A thing arrived.

>>160507118
It's going to be really long until they release the 3rd expansion with Chaos Divided and all the goodies for Chaos in general.

Also now that I see your Daemonette pic, I was wondering about a certain Chaos Character.

Not Slaaneshi, but Nurgle.

Orghotts Daemonspew was his name, and he's kinda unique as having a Great Unclean one as a father and a Chaos Witch as a mother (DON'T ASK, DON'T IMAGINE IT HOW IT EVEN HAPPENED). And he's a half daemon.

I wonder if it would be even remotely possible for other mortal-daemon hybrids to exist in WFB...until that parody known as AoS torched everything.

>>160499493
Do you guys think they will add zombie and chaos dragons as standalone units since the forest dragon is also one?

>>160508114
Complaining about Beastmen made some sense, the minicampaign was shit and the race was a horde faction with a truncated roster.

Wood Elves seems to have a lot more work put into them, They only have 1 lord and 2 hero units missing and CA really seems to have designed a playstyle that does their lore justice.

This is coming from someone who likes Beastmen more than Wood Elves.

Radious would be 10/10 if it included Lorehammer modifications as well desu

Like bigger garrisons, longer fights, shorter campaign range, longer build and research times

Basically longer everything.

Radious does a lot of stuff but makes everything too short

>>160508273
lazy b8

>>160508114
Beastmen is horde shit with incomplete roster
I still havent bought it yet, but i did buy WE

>>160508342

Counter my argument then.

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>>160507671
the whole campaign is a sequence of terrible events, and then the volcano explodes, daedra show up AND lizards invade

>>160508390
You did not make any arguments. You made statements, that is not the same thing as arguments.

>>160508202
Hype

>>160508390
Saying "X would be better if it did Y" is not an argument. Arguments are the things that explain why X would be better if it did Y.

>>160508202
Poor free company

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>>160508390

>>160508467
>>160508536
>>160508582

Sorry ladies, not a native english speaker

Still doesn't counter my statement

>>160508108
But still, at the end of the day, Karl Franz is a shitter with a the best toys around

He's not a complete Mary Sue since he is only a great statesman
>Pupper he grew with since he was a kid, which received the best care available, turns out to be a murder machine
>His magic hammer which smashes skulls on it's own, which he only owns as part of his role as Emperor

Also, unlike Mary Sues, you are not constantly reminded of how great Karl Franz is (see Archaon)

>>160508409
10/10 would buy

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>>160508631

>>160508631
I disagree.

There, I countered your statement.

>>160508631
Not a native english speaker too, but i agree with those anons, there is nothing to counter. That statement still does not want to make me install radious.

>>160508682

Ironic shitposting is still shitposting.

>>160508631

>Still doesn't counter my statement

You're wrong, also you fellate horse cocks.

Counter-statement

>>160508224
I doubt it for Zombie Dragon, since that's really the Terrorgeist's turf. It makes more sense since Forest Dragons are said to be sentient, wise creatures that could control themselves. This could also apply to Chaos Dragons- we might see them, although not coming in the recent free update to Chaos that brought another air unit instead makes me doubt it.

Dragons are really more of an elf thing in warhammer anyway.

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>>160508708

Who are you quoting?

>>160508114
Bundling different products with different audience size, to jack up prices is a cancerous practice no matter how you word it

But I have some hope that they will do the minicampaign justice, after the unplayable slog that was an Eye for an Eye

>>160506039
It only prevents them from loitering in your territory.
At best it encourages people to fuck off your land asap.
>tfw playing Vamps and you control the entire middle of the field forcing foreign armies to whither away while they attempt to attack their enemies on the opposite side of my territory
Just go around, AI-bro.

>>160508687
>>160508702

Why say that you disagree if you're not going to say why? I like lorehammer more than radious because it makes fights so much more interesting.
All that radious does is add a shitload of units, which is very cool in itself, but fucks the balance.
Both together would be great.

>if you don't like the DLC you're a retard
>if you like radious you're a shill

litterally everything I see everytime i visit /twg/

>>160508781

If you have to ask , it's always (You)

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>it's another troll trolling trolls trolling trolls /twg/ episode

>>160499493
How are chaos warriors going to counter warhawk riders? Their flying units are too slow and they have no real ranged units

Okay so I just bought the welfs. They better be awesome.

>>160508820
>Playing Vampire Cunts
>First chaos invasion, let them do their thing since you are only forced against them when Archaon shows up
>They raze everything from Kislev to Reikland (except Altdorf)
>All the rest of the Empire is at >50% vampire corruption out of osmosis alone
>Archaon shows up
>some turns after, Archaon and friends running around with half-dead stacks of Chosen, hellcannons and giants
>laughingmannfred.png

>>160501417
TOTAL WAR:AGE OF MYTHOLOGY

YES. YES YEEEEESSS

Sorry but that would be the fucking tits. The opening cinematic to that game screamed Total War when I first saw it all those years ago.

>>160508995
Warhawk riders will probably be shit like all ranged cav.

>>160508829
That's what you got from my post? Wow, I simply said I am not interested in radious, despite what you said because the 'shitload of units' are not exactly unique and makes the factions less specialized than what they should be (dwarf cavalry, skeleton archer..why not zombie cannon or chaos copter while you are at it?)

Radious also screws with the unit maintenance, making everything cheaper and so everyone owns a lot of armies.

I do not use Lorehammer, I use Faith of steel (or something similar) and I enjoyed that more.

Nowhere I said you are a retard for not liking DLC or using radious. Simply the radious version of warhammer does not interest me in the slightest, the units are not well thought of and to some it is really lore breaking.

>>160508995
M A G I C
A
G
I
C

also, I doubt they will do anything but tickle your warriors so just leave them alone until they run out of ammo, and if they don't, you get to laugh at the shitstorm of "muh competitive" fags

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>>160509002
>He fell for the elf meme

STUFF!?

>Introducing Treemen
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ynyerF9qXU

>>160509145
Looks full of content senpai. Well worth the price. I bought it yesterday.

>>160508995

Same way they counter Gyrocopters

By ignoring them.

>>160509084
They need to shoot a lot of arrows fast and hard for them to be useful

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REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

Watching my fast elves constantly moving and shooting as the stubby little dwarfs try to catch me is going to be fun.

>>160509208
just messing with ya, its one of the better dlc to come out, like beastmen

>>160509373
this will probably be like beastmen but done much better
hence making the mini campaign worth it

>>160509382
goblin slayer

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>>160509382
pro tip, dont search with the thumbnail

also the fuck?

>>160509264
>Next Update! The wood elves will be getting some new ranged units, including an armor Piercing one! I thought that Wood elves would often come across empire guns, so I thought that some of them who are daring would use these against those who would threaten the woods! Introducing: Wood elf longrifle rangers!

>>160509203
I'm going to need a whole lot of weed killers.

>>160509264
He passed it over to some other modder. It's not Radious.

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>>160509652
>armoured Treeman
>Warhawk Cataphracts
ARE YOU READY?

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>tfw TWW Naval Battles never

>>160509578
Google gets more and more retarded...

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The Black Band marched into Italy in 1515 in time to fight alongside King Francis I at the Battle of Marignano, where, defending the ditch and supported by artillery, they nonetheless recoiled from the attacking Swiss, but did not break. Eventually they were relieved by the charge of the French gendarme heavy cavalry into the flank of the Swiss attack column.
Ten years later they were still in French service and appeared as the lead French infantry square at the Battle of Pavia, led by Francois de Lorraine and Richard de la Pole. In this battle they found themselves heavily outnumbered by two blocks of 12,000 Imperial Landsknechts opposing them, led by Georg von Frundsberg and Max Sittich von Ems. Before the battle Georg Langenmantel, Obrist of the band, stepped out and tried to challenge Frundsberg or Ems to single combat, but was killed by the Imperials in response. Struck in both flanks -- “seize[d] … as if with tongs”—and hacked to pieces, the Black Band was killed almost to the last man, including both of their leaders, and ceased to exist.

>15 bucks for 13 units , 2 heroes, and 3 lords

I don't care how well implemented wood elves will be, that's a fucking ripoff

>>160509802
is this what high impact naval violence looks like?

>>160509892
2 lords, 3 heroes.
and a M I N I C A M P A I G N

>>160509892
You paid 9 for 4 units and 2 lords

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In honour of the Season of Revelation mini campaign and the dataleak revealing the factions. Here are the 12 Eternal Realms lore followed by the leaked faction list.
1/2

>>160509945

FUCK

>>160509892
>15 bucks for an entirely new faction with different mechanics and its own campaign map
>Going to get FLC units and DLC units as well
>Get all of this anyways as AI on the map if you don't buy it
>Ripoff
You must be new here

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ynyerF9qXU

>>160509505
>goblin slayer
Thank you.

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>>160509974
2/2

List of factions in the expanded Athel Loren and outskirts map:
wh_dlc05_brt_mini_aquitaine
wh_dlc05_brt_mini_bastonne
wh_dlc05_brt_mini_brionne
wh_dlc05_brt_mini_bordeleaux
wh_dlc05_brt_mini_bretonnia_rebels
wh_dlc05_brt_mini_bretonnia_separatists
wh_dlc05_brt_mini_carcassonne
wh_dlc05_brt_mini_gisoreux
wh_dlc05_brt_mini_montfort
wh_dlc05_brt_mini_parravon
wh_dlc05_brt_mini_quenelles
wh_dlc05_bst_mini_morghur_herd
wh_dlc05_bst_mini_morghur_herd_rebels
wh_dlc05_bst_mini_morghur_herd_separatists
wh_dlc05_grn_mini_deff_grindaz
wh_dlc05_grn_mini_deff_grindaz_waaagh
wh_dlc05_grn_mini_greenskin_rebels
wh_dlc05_grn_mini_greenskin_rebels_waaagh
wh_dlc05_grn_mini_greenskin_separatists
wh_dlc05_grn_mini_greenskin_separatists_waaagh
wh_dlc05_grn_mini_skullsmasherz
wh_dlc05_grn_mini_skullsmasherz_waaagh
wh_dlc05_wef_mini_anmyr
wh_dlc05_wef_mini_argwylon
wh_dlc05_wef_mini_arranoc
wh_dlc05_wef_mini_atylwyth
wh_dlc05_wef_mini_cavaroc
wh_dlc05_wef_mini_cythral
wh_dlc05_wef_mini_fyr_darric
wh_dlc05_wef_mini_modryn
wh_dlc05_wef_mini_talsyn
wh_dlc05_wef_mini_tirsyth
wh_dlc05_wef_mini_torgovann
wh_dlc05_wef_mini_wydrioth
wh_dlc05_wef_wood_elves
wh_dlc05_wef_wood_elves_rebels
wh_dlc05_wef_wood_elves_separatists
wh_dlc05_wef_wood_elves_separatists_durthu

>>160509892
>A new race
>New campaign mechanics
>13 units
>2 lords
>2 new start positions
>a minicampaign

I-its a ripoff!!

You neets should get a fucking job

>>160510020
treegays lol

>>160510114
Actually I enjoyed reading it nigger

Hold on with no settlement walls and thus no sieges on Welf land does that mean there's no Asrai tree architecture in any battle maps?

:(

>>160509974
>>160510072
Thanks. So the mini will be about subduing Morghur before he goes Super Saiyan?

>>160499918
roll

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Somebody give me their save of an almost completed eye for an eye campaign if they could be so kind. As I posted in last thread, thought mine was on cloud when I formatted but it wasn't.
Was like two turns away as well.

>>160509915
ancient viking sea fighting techniques

>>160510073
>You neets should get a fucking job
Fucking this
Its always the people with no fucking income and pirate all their games that complain about these DLCs. Every. Fucking. Time.

>>160510158
Exactly. NOBODY

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>>160510114
People do actually anon.
>>160510158
Thanks anon. Here's the Athel Loren map so you can see where those realms are. I really hope this means CA made the map match to the lore.

Grand Campaign Athel Loren looks to have 6 regions with 10 building slots for each settlement. An enhanced Athel Loren map will likely be 30 regions or more. I expect we'll see mini campaign footage next week or the week after.

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>>160510302
This is how you sound

>>160510302
But who wants to play NEET Elves besides NEETs?

>>160510380
>ITS SHIT BECAUSE IT COSTS EXTRA MONEY
Just stop

>>160510380
>if I can't afford it it's shit
>if you like it it's like you eat shit

You really sound like a balanced individual

>>160509974
>Argwylon, The Moonspring Glades
>It should therefore be of little surprise that the Elves of the Moonglades consider themselves superior to their fellows
The smuggest of the smug?

>>160509974
Arranoc sound evil as fuck.

>>160510073

>having a job makes you a retard unable to know the value of a product
>TWW will be over $200 as an end-product and you'll still think it's OK
>meanwhile, modded campaigns for medieval 2 are free and over a hundred times the content. Not saying wood elves should be 5 bucks, but to make you relativize.

10/10 post anon

>>160510302

Never pirated a single game in my life, motherfucker, and I have over 200 games in my library. Try again.

>>160510414
those who groan under the ruinous injustice of wageslavery

>>160510379
Can you explain why you care? Legitimate question.
I'd love it if there were a reason to care but it's hardly like they'll be represented in an interesting enough fashion in a TW game.

>>160502374
I'm sure the last Rome 2 campaign I did, there was no option.

That's the most recent game I've played anyway, assumed they'd keep things like that in

>>160502372
>enjoying artificial difficulty
lol

>>160510420
>lol shit haha
nice observation skills you got there, let me point out the metaphor behind the comic

>You don't have to buy it, so you are not allowed to point out flaws of it
this is what's being criticized/ridiculized, try again

>>160510481
>content made by a video game company should be free because modders work for free

That makes no sense.

>>160510073


Friendly reminder that total war warhammer + all DLC right now is 130$

>6 playable races
>all of them have about 15 unique units
>not including reskins because they aren't worth shit
>bunch of copypaste heroes with different animations and samey gameplay
>""special"" campaigns are just normal campaigns with a different objective which you can completely avoid

If you think this is okay there's a problem with you
I'm not saying TW:W is a bad game but it's a big FUCK YOU to consumers.

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>>160510431
>The smuggest of the smug?
Not even close.

>>160510380

>A good product magically becomes shit because the company charges 5 bucks too much for it

*No*

>>160510481
>Can't assess the value of an object.
>"I'll just take it for free, even though people have worked on it".

>>160510654
am we are shilling for free!

>>160510481
>comparing shitty mods to high quality official content

>>160510431
No, they are just approaching Ulthuan levels of smugness, which it sort of references.

High Elves and even Dark Elves outsmug Wood Elves pretty handily. These arrogant insufferable NEETs are what passes for down-to-earth types in elfdom

>>160510654
>>160510694
>THIS GAME IS A RIP OFF AND EVERYONE WHO DISAGREES WITH ME IS A SHILL

>>160510640

Nigger did you even read my post?
>meanwhile, modded campaigns for medieval 2 are free and over a hundred times the content. Not saying wood elves should be 5 bucks, but to make you relativize

>>160510481
Alright, so how much should the elf DLC be priced then according to you?

Honestly, I think $18 is a bit much (I'm more like $10 per DLC piece and $5 for the lord/RoR DLC), but that's just me.

I got the DLC since I have some money in my steam wallet from a steam card that i got from gamestop from my reward balance a long time ago.

>>160510481
>having a job makes you a retard unable to know the value of a product

It's literally less than a coffee a day for two weeks and you get tens of hours of playing time at the least. Not to mention that "value" can't be objectively quantified in this case as many will play it for much more while others won't even touch half the content.

>TWW will be over $200 as an end-product and you'll still think it's OK

By that time most of the content will also be available at 50% discount at the least, every few months.

>M2 shilling

Why even bother?

>>160510637

You're not pointing out any flaws of the product, you're only pointing out that it costs too much.

>>160510609
It's exciting and valuable NEETLORE

Athel Loren was better before they divided it into provinces though, it should be a mysterious and shifting realm you can't clearly divide like that

>>160510746
>over a hundred times the content
>Humans copypasted dozens of times = entirely new races, units and mechanics.

>>160510680
see>>160510746
retard

>>160510781
I agree with 10$, 12$ would be acceptable , 18$ is simply insulting.

>>160510781
You can get tens of thousands of hours out of a carboard box , it's still a cardboard box.
You qualify the value of a product by the amount of work that went into it . Woodelves campaign didn't take a 4th of the effort that went into TW:W.

So what're the chances the early game for Wood Elves is fighting other Wood Elves for 20 turns?

>>160510637
>argues against an anon posting a stupid image involving shit eating and openly comparing content to shit
>WHY DO YOU TALK ABOUT SHIT CAN'T YOU SEE THE DEEPEST SOCIAL CRITIQUE I'M SPINNING BEHIND THE FACADE?

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>>160510481
>>160510746
>muh mods with 1000 hours of content
Every single time. Why don't you fuck off and play your FREE Med 2 mods since they're so great? No one honestly cares to listen to some poor neet fag whine about pricing every time a DLC is announced/released. You'd be whining about no content if they released no DLC instead.

>Not saying wood elves should be 5 bucks
Except that's exactly what you're fucking saying because unless its stupidly underpriced you'll bitch and moan.

See I can understand people who get angry over gameplay issues. They obviously play the product and care about what happens to it. But pricing? Always some poor fuck who wants to get shit for free/cheaper than it's value proposition suggests. Just don't fucking buy it you retard if its such a huge problem and stop shitting up the thread with your autism.

Considering that there only seems to be one WE faction in the Grand Campaign, I'd say not terribly high.

>>160510654
I've got over an hour of entertainment for each dollar spent so far, and I haven't got my hands on the NEET elves I paid for like a good goy yet

What does your entertainment budget look like? Can you not swing $1/hour? I guess it's for the best you don't see the price for the miniatures game