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Vertically Challenged Piñata Dragon Edition

>FAQs and General Info
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>Warhammer News
Wood Elves Trailer
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THEY'VE
WRONGED
US
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>>160542601
TAKE
BACK
EVERY
GROODGE
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>almost 1/3 of the price of the base game
You people aren't actually buying this, right? Just pirate it and use cream api
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Do you get to sacrifice a wood eleven lord to get Orion or does he just show up permanently
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>>160542601
>>160542637
THEY TAKE OUR HOMES OUR LANDS!
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>>160542850
DORF WAHREUZ
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>>160542735
>Just pirate it so there's no more DLC
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>tfw you realize the expansion will have the 4 most powerful table top factions in it

heh nothing personal old world shit stains
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>>160542735
>DLC already costs more than the base game
>only 7 of 16 factions
Time to take out a second mortgage.

>>160542825
You get him once you upgrade your tree house to level 5 by putting some planks and a rope on it
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>>160542909
>Implying that won't be expansion 2 with all the flavors of daemons
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>>160542906
>just pay exorbitant prices so they continue to fuck you!
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>>160542982
Then pirate it if you don't want to pay. Just saying that pirating it means you're not contributing to more DLC.
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>>160542982
>The winning move is to not play
But seriously now, this game is going to be expensive as fuck, assuming you didnt wait for sales or anything its going to be at least $300+ for everything.
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>>160542909
will the game be extended? Like the Cha<os invasion comes pretty early so will late game now be without Chaos at all or will the Chaos invasion be delayed so I can go colonize Lustria as Empire and remove elf shiits?
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>>160543060
Not saying I'm happy about the gouging, but for anyone who walked into a GW store as a kid and could never afford to build armies, this is the hugely cheaper alternative
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>>160543034
No, refusing to pay retardedly high prices shows I'm not a cuck and that if they expect my money they should be reasonable with their pricing.

It seems like you think they aren't fucking you with $18 races.
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>>160542909

High Elves and Lizards are definitely in the top 6 in regards to strength. Skaven were by far the most versatile and powerful, almost absurdly so. I'm definitely interested to see how they make Skaven work. But Daemons of Chaos were a close 2nd followed by Dark Elves and Ogres fighting for 3rd and 4th.

So more like the two most powerful (Skaven, Dark Elves) followed by 2 more pretty stronk factions.
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>>160543060
wait for discount
your an grown up aren you not
wait for christmas you can be wait a bit or not
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In case anyone missed it

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ynyerF9qXU

>those sounds
>those attacks
>that inevitable tentacle pron
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>>160543289
I really hope English isn't your first language.
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>>160543193
>if you disagree with me on pricing you're a cuck
No one is stopping you from pirating it if you refuse to contribute to more FLC and DLC
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>>160543353
yeah I've seen it multiple times. I love that sound of bones cracking. CA has done an amazing job with the treemen imo
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>>160543450
The models look pretty god damn good I have to admit.

I think this looks overall a lot better than BM.
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>>160542637
TEHK BAK EVRY GROODGE
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>butterfly-like wings for the dragon
>roots and ent-level-animations for the treemen instead of wooden stilts and elven agility

When the charlemagnes get redirected for these small kinds of improvements it warm my heart a little; thx based CA.
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I want to be dominated by a best elf!
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>>160543530
considering it actually has 95% of the Welf roster and doesn't ignore some of the bigger units that Elves have, it's definitely better.
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I was thinking CA is one of the most stable studios out there.

Generally speaking developers lay off a lot of people after releasing a game but CA has been releasing games one after another for more than 15 years so they are basically can afford to keep their devs.

The only people that got laid off are the community managers
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>>160543543
>>butterfly-like wings for the dragon
hadn't actually realized that. NEAT!

>>160543530
I really get a LOTR ent feeling from their animations
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:')
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>>160543530

Minotaurs and Cygors are also great units.

Minotaurs especially are very well animated and all that mooing and grunting makes them very unique
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>>160543543
>first real dragon
>its a god damn butterfly
I want my red dragons god dammit
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>>160543654
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>>160543654
Vamp corruption will take care of them
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>>160543741
>Deep roads
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>>160543654
TAKE
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>>160543710

>First real dragon

You literally have Galrauch in the game and you are complaining?

It being weak af is because CA decided to shit on WoC but still
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>>160543681
I love the Cygor going apeshit in the little portrait bubble when you give him orders.
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>>160543836
>Galrauch
wut? Where?
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>>160543775
oh yeah...fuck
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Anyone know of mods that make Knights of the blazing sun not shit? I don't like how much tech it takes to get knights that are worse than demigryphs
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>>160543543
I wonder if they would add sync animations for dragon killing another dragon later on.
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>>160543571

they have an effective monopoly on their primary content so they don't have to worry that much.

we'll probably see more cuts once CA realizes total war arena is a bust. that or they'll merge that department.
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>>160543862
Not Galrauch, but Chaos Lords get a generic twin-headed Chaos dragon as a mount.
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>>160543726
>WAR and GRUDGES and not PEACE and TRADE AGREEMENTS ok, praise the underway
I fucking love Dwarfs
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>>160544017

>Generic

It's literally called Galrauch in the game files
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>>160543836
>Galrauch
>Boring ass weak dragon
Laaaaame

Give me a Star Dragon already
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>>160543862
he means we got twin headed chaos dragons. They are actually a fraction of Galrauch's size and don't mutate the victims of the breath attack.
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>>160543432
>the only way to support DLC is to buy extremely overpriced DLC
You keep bringing this up and it makes no sense
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>>160543561
If you think about it the Welves roster does share and will share a great deal of its skeletons animations with the rest of the armies; it's not so difficult to see how the more varied and unique nature of the beasts roster had some repercussions in the count of total units.

I'm fearing a similar thing will happen for the lizardmen.
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>>160544056
this is unironically one of my favorite screnshots I see posted around here.
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>>160544017
>>160543836

they should make those chaos dragons recruitable at this point.

Damn near impossible to get a lord to that rank before he gets swamped by norscans or empire.
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>>160544130
lizards have a 90% chance imo of being a main race in expansion 1, so we'll see them get updates.
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"It’s whispered amongst the Northern tribes that somewhere in the icy peaks, there are Dragons, but not the ones of legend. These are the mutant spawn of Galrauch, the ancient Dragon who was corrupted by Tzeentch. The Chaos Dragons are thankfully rare and content to spend the eons buried in their lairs, brimming with hatred and plotting the destruction of all that lives. But when the Dark Gods call, not even these monsters can resist the urge to wage war for the Ruinous Powers. But they are fickle creatures, quick to turn on their allies should it give them the advantage."
Pretty damn cool description tbqh
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>>160544119
>extremely overpriced DLC
Why is it overpriced?
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>>160544137

My screenshots are better
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>>160544335
well, post a good one so I can compare.
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>>160544374

Fucking rude
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>>160544614
>This is considered good
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>>160544693

YOU TAKE THAT BACK
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See you tree huggers on the 8th.
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>>160544614
This one is better.
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>It is said that Chaos Dragons see themselves as wholly distinct from Tzeentch's mortal followers. Indeed, they hold Dragonkind to be the Dark God's true servants in the mortal world, for men have ever been quick to change their allegiance over the centuries.
Now I'm confused. I thought Tzeentch loved backstabbing and treachery
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>>160544853
>no delicious thighs
Not that anon, but this is fucking weak. You should feel embarrassed.
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>>160544374
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>>160544119
Its not overpriced.
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>>160544904
k that ones not terrible
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>>160544853
Hey, you installed my mod :)
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>>160544853
>Covering the best part like the Vampire Counts are under Sharia law.
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>>160544939
He also loves contradictions

don't think it too much
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>>160544939
It is kind of a shame that GW never expanded on chaos dragons, they always got lumped with Tzeentch. Would've been great to see a whole cabal of Khornate, Nuglite and Slaaneshi dragons to match the different types High Elves get.
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>>160546109
>Bad dragon dragons
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>>160544335
Nah
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>you will never face a horde of angry 8ft tall bloodthirsty super vikings with nothing but a bendy sword, some fashionable clothing and some armour made from melted down pots
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>>160546375
you guys need to learn how to frame pictures correctly

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Framing_(visual_arts)
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>Levy X
>X Warriors
>Heavy X
>Armored X
>Noble X
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>>160546635
>X (Poison Arrows)
>X (Fire Arrows)
>X (Slayer Arrows)
>Noble X (Slayer Arrows)
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>>160546635
Warhammer probably has the least of that of any total war game.
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>>160546281
Top kek.
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>>160544208
>imo

You are the kind of faggot that generates unnecessary levels of hype based on nothing.
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>>160546774
Surely that's a meme dildo, right? I mean how would anyone get that in any orifice?
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>>160547213
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>>160547213
Do some searching if you dare, you'd be surprised.

You're also gonna risk getting lots of accidental search hits on men.
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>>160547213
You'd be surprised what some whores can fit in themselves
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>You can get amber from alliances as the wood elfs
>Make replenishment a few places around the old world
>Become world police/horde busters
>Camp outside the chaos wastes

Might be fun
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>>160547213
Most body tissues, epidermis, muscle etc is elastic. A condom can stretch over a football if you boil it.
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>>160547929
replenishment outposts*
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>>160547941
Just because a condom can, doesn't mean an anus should
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>>160548186
It's 2016, 'should' doesn't factor into modern living.
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So am I nuts or does every new faction basically make playing as Empire even more difficult?
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>>160547929
You get amber from diplomacy?
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>still haven't started playing
>still too bored to read the army books
>still refuse to play without knowing the lore

I wish I wasn't autistic.
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>>160548586
Got that from here. I hope it is true.
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>>160548687
Anon, I...
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So the excellent but somewhat bare Warhammer will feel alot more complete by February. BRETS AND NEETS! So exited!
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>>160548841
>Bare
>6 races, with 8 factions total
>large map

This is bare
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>>160542982

Except that I'll get more playtime and enjoyment out of wood Elves than most shitty AAA games that have 8 hour campaigns and yet cost 60 bucks, the value here is great.
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So we're getting Bretons and Elfs

Last races?
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>>160543353


first for pot smoking NEET faction
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>>160543654

>every campaign i play the dwarves get their shit completely pushed in by the greenskins
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>>160549227
Tomb Kings soon.
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>>160549227

Maybe Skaven

Total Warhammer 2 will give us Tomb Kings, Lizard Men, High Elves and Dark Elves

Maybe Daemons of Chaos as independent faction?
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>>160549351

Wouldn't they need to expand the map for that?
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>>160548925
Warhammer does feel somewhat bare with regional occupation. The campaigns always take identical routes and you fight the same one or two factions for the majority. Still better than Rome II where you just fight different coloured celts or persians.
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>>160549525

Could always have some kind of horde thing where they show up in Brettonia with a big-ass undead fleet
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So I just got the one ring in Third Age Total War.
What do I do with it? Playing Orcs of Gundabad by the way.
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>>160549984

Stick up your ass
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Love getting quest battle maps in random campaign battles. It happens quite a lot.
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>>160550104
But then when people finger me Sauron will see
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>>160550350
He likes to watch
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Why does the AI refuse to do siege battles? I'm playing on VH Warhammer and they were sieging Altdorf for the full 8 turns before supplies ran out. I'd even run an army or two behind them to try to scare them into action and nothing. Frustrating. Just want to defend some shit. I'd even take the loss if I could whittle down their troops a bit.
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>>160549227
>>160549351
>>160549419
They said in an interview that Wood Elves would be by far the biggest DLC before the next game

That rules out any new major factions pretty much unless they make them into hordes
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>>160551585
Yes, this piece of DLC will be the largest, but it's a faction bundled with a campaign. They may very well be planning on releasing another faction as a standalone thing.
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So, how do I play Beastmen? On Legendary, that is.

I decided to test them on normal and it really went up and down constantly. But I found myself often in lack of money or having no fucking idea where to proceed next. Is there like an early starter guide for Beastmen? What to focus on early into the campaign and all.
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Which faction is worst in Rome II?
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>>160551868

Arse
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>>160551585
That rules out any new major factions with mini-campaigns, and thank fuck.
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>Have to work a poll for a by-election.
>Know its going to be a boring as fuck 12 hours.
>Want to read the Knight of the realm omnibus
>can't find it for download, its not in the mediafire archive
>decide to read Gotrek and felix
>never read it before
>Suddenly Belegar in Karak Eight Peaks.
>was playing a belegar ironhammer campaign.

Victory now seems so hollow.
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>>160551954

Eh, I kinda dig mini-campaigns. Attila had great ones.

It's just that the ones in this game suck
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>>160551832
Starting lord?
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I spent alot of effort to beg my parents to use their credit card for this total war game. Now they won't let me use their credit card to buy the beastmen or new units because they dont understand why I need to use their card over and over.

Middle school just started and course work is picking up and my parents want me to join band so I wont be able to play this game as much with the dlc. I'm sure many of the people protesting DLC for this game is in same situation as me, where middle school is starting, the developers need to understand that if they don't cater to our age group, we are going to bomb their reviews on steam.
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>>160552361

Stop copy-pasting comments from Neogaf
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We'll always be friends, won't we, Gobbla?
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>>160552160
I just hope people start modding the TWW mini-campaigns soon. I guess I should get to learning how to mod.
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>>160552285
Khazrak, preferably. I like him but I don't mind starting with Malagor.
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>Nearing my long campaign victory
>Have to clear one more grudge
>Grudge is to fuck with some Brettonian forces
>Brettonia and co are allies with the surviving empire factions

Is it worth starting a world war for a grudge?
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>>160552631

>mfw my Lord gets eaten by a FUCKING SQUIG
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Thinking about re-installing Rome 2.
Anyone got the roll charts for it?
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>>160552779
GRUDGES
MUST
BE
SETTLED
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>>160552779

You literally don't have a choice so why are you bothering to ask?

If you want to make it easier just bribe the other factions to break their alliances
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>>160551832
Minotaurs are mandatory, as is a stack of four or five Cyghors to deal with towers and siege engines. Here's roughly what I rolled with in my campaign.

>malagor
>2x gorebull for both sets of skills
>4x bestigor for AP damage
>4x gor herd for general melee
>4x minos w/ shields to act as ghetto cavalry
>5x cyghor to disrupt enemy ranged units until minos can reach them

Never, ever both with Bray-Shamans, they aren't worth the trouble. Beastmen have a staggeringly retarded random event that triggers far too often and wounds your shaman and it'll just trip you up at the most important moment. Start with Malagor instead, since he doesn't get caught out by it.
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>>160552779
RIGHT EVERY WRONG
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>>160552981

Because I wanted the dwarfposter replies
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>>160552779
What the fuck kind of shitty question is this? You bring shame to our clan, hold and this general.
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http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2016-11-16-the-next-historical-total-war-is-an-era-we-havent-tackled-yet

So we're agreed it's going to be Total War: Three Kingdoms yeah?
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>>160552903

Grudges must get pretty fucking boring when there's only Dawi left
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>>160553359

They put a mountain in the big book before. I'm sure they'll find something to be pissed about.
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>>160552514
Steam discussions
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>>160551832
>no fucking idea where to proceed next
Pick a direction then plunder and burn everything in sight until a big army chases you into some other direction
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>>160553274
that or Total War: WE WUZ
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Reminder that shittiest dorfs are still shit
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>>160553548
>Total War: Africa
Yes, because Arabs and North Africans with tech trees and end game units wrecking factions tied to early game units would be so much fun
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>>160550350
>>160553191
>Not righting the wrong
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>>160552716
Basically, it should go this way (Khazrak gets the better start)
>Raze&Defile minor estalian settlements, you need growth and base income should be enough
>When prompted, pick whatever you want, Gorebull is a safer way to snipe heroes while the shaman gives you early acces to winds (but you may get stuck with the Lore of the Wild, which sucks hard until you can summon Cygors)
>Enter hidden encampment the following turn to replenish and recruit new units, keep about 4 archers in your army and prioritize the main building over new ones
>Don't fall for the noobtrap of building early the -upkeep building, build it once you consider your horde "completed"
>Don't get more hordes unless needed, Khazrak's start is very lineal, you have to go up, destroy the faction and move on to the next (Estalia -> Carcassone -> Bordeleaux/Parravon...)
>Sieges are a nightmare, do not fight siege battles until you get a reinforcing brayherd
>About brayherds, they are shit, half-full with high-tier units that get murdered on their own, keep them close so you reinforce eachother
>When in doubt, hidden encampment
>Get lightning strike ASAP
>If Khazrak gets murdered, once he recovers, you can replace a horde's Beastlord with him (on the character screen, bottom right, the "dismiss" button)

Beastmen's campaign is EZmode, but good fun
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>>160553657

>Karak Norn are the biggest cucks in the land
>With the release of Skarsnik they finally have the gobbo threat at their doors so stop being cucked/get wiped out
>With the release of Wood Elves they start out allied with them

What is it about dwarves that the further west they go the worst they get?
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>>160553274
It's gonna be Total War: Dinosaurs
>pleases historyfags
>unit variety
>never done before
>attractive to newcomers
>puts Warhammer's new battle roles to good use

name one (1) reason why this is not the only acceptable choice, I'll wait
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>>160553548
ancient egypt would be pretty cool
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>>160543654
ZANGUNAZ FILTH
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>>160554186
>pleases historyfags
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What are the best skills for Vladimir daddimer?
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>>160554186
>pleases historyfags
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>>160553907
True King of Eight Peaks is good though
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>>160554436
Yeah but he's originally from the east, he's only a refugee in the west
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>>160552779
>tfw righting grudges

Do it for the good of the clan. Anon.
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>>160552779
>Brettonia
>Elf fuckers
>worship an Elf
>so incapable of moving forward that the world'd blow up before they get a new update
Yes
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DmC the Orc
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>>160553274
I'm hoping it's going to be a globe-spanning Empire 2 with TWWH style expansions for each major part of the world. I'll also settle for a Renaissance TW.
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Who is the true ruler of Eight Peaks and why is it Skarsnik?
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>>160555082
That minimap.
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>>160555172
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>>160555172
TRUE KING OF EIGHT TREES
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It is now Official. Athel Loren is radiant in its resplendence. Delicate young boys cavort for the delight of their mistresses, and the luminescence of sprites and pixies flicker through the enchanted wood. The Sisters of Twilight languorously uncurl from their embrace; panpipes flute a tune of merriment throughout the halls of the summerstrand. The diverting indignities of gorposting and Deep-Thinking Goblins are a receding memory, a windblown fragment of the season past. All Asrai make ready for frolic and improductivity; indolence is the watchword, and none can be found but are feverishly, zealously committed to inactivity.

From the Oak of Ages, the Eternal Queen watches and is warmed by the celebrations of her people. In such a festive air, Orion's rebirth cannot but be imminent; Ariel's handmaidens ceaselessly weave flowers into her hair, presenting an endless procession of styles and and aspects by which their beloved monarch might greet her consort. Those that retain a sense of time and worldly events look to his arrival; Naieth's divinations serve only to confirm what the jubilant atmosphere of the forest makes evident.

Wood Elves Confirmed.
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>>160555172
GET
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First anon to roll 7 gets a Grom code
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>>160556148

Check this 7
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Any tips for someone about to play Empire for the first time?
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>>160555690
>this hippeelf autismspiel will be over soon
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>>160554662
>happy Belegar
I didn't know my heart needed this. :3
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>>160556148
[email protected]
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>>160556264
Get mortars asap, stack up on crossbows.
Main line should be infantry with skirmishers & arti behind, knights on flanks.
As time goes on, replace xbows with gunners and infantry with Greatsword.
Don't pick Gelt.
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>>160556148

>code

They seriously haven't just patched him in already?
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>>160556410

Also don't pick Volkmar
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>>160556410
I said empire not medieval 2
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>>160556148
Give the code away in this thread
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>>160553274
Total War: Australian Aboriginal Tribes

Don't tell me you wouldn't field an army entirely of Kangaroo Cav
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>>160556668

Could you declare war on the emus?
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>>160556668
So would one of the tech options be a bifurcated penis?
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>>160555294
why is this picture so fucking funny
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>>160557095
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>>160556148
Sevens would be nice
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>>160556956
>bifurcated penis
w-what
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>>160557095
JUST GRUDGE MY SHIT UP
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>>160557191
I think that's when you take a razor and cut into the head along the urethra to give yourself a double headed penis.

Fucking abos are crazy yo.
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....I uh... huh.
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>>160557361
why did you give me this information
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>>160557138
that one too

>>160557257
GET THE BOOK
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>>160557553
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Penile_subincision
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>>160557491

Could be worse
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>>160557683
I don't know if it will be really easy or really hard
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>>160557683
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>>160557738

If you can close into melee, you'll slaughter them no problem

But you need to close that gap fast
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>>160557849
It is an ambush battle
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>>160557738

Since its an ambush, just spread your troops out really wide and encircle them
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>>160557864

And that is missile cav

Hit the head and tail of the column or they'll scatter and you'll lose your advantage, nerd
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>>160556148
For the Emprah
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I think I'm gonna be okay
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>>160556148

ayy
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I missed the info release on wood elves. What was the general reaction here? I mean, everyone expected bretonnia first
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>>160556148
Just post it
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>>160558435
Seems pretty good. It looks better than beastmen.

Also gg no re
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>>160558498
What about faction leaders? I confess i know little of elf lore to begin with, but i remember WE fans yelling for that sleeping beauty bitch and unless i'm wrong, Orion and Durthu are guys not related to Ariel or whats her name
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We're never gonna get tired of winning, folks
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>>160557680
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>>160558498

So is there ever any reason not to just eat the captives?
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>>160558849

I never do anything else
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>>160558849
not until they add a rape the captives button
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>>160556148
tfw i have the white dwarf but posting just to see if i'd get a 7
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>>160556148
give
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>>160556148
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>>160556148
>tfw you will never get a Gotrek code
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>>160558919
...what
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>>160558884

Same

I just don't get what the supposed benefit of the others is
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>>160559317
Winner
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>>160559317
[email protected]

Please
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>>160559336
Maybe you will one day.
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>>160559738

>mfw Gotrek ends up being the most OP melee hero in the game
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>beastmen general gets assassinated

>can't get the general back with his original army without losing horde encampment progress

fuck hordes
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>>160559875
That means Slayers would need to be not shit first
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>opening cinematic will only include first 4 factions

LITERALLY UNPLAYABLE
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>>160559875

His flash bomb is

Otherwise he's pretty okay
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>>160560057
He said Gotrek not Grom, and Grom is kinda op
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>>160559875
Will we get Felix along with him?
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So im confused/retarded. If dlc races won't get dlcs, how will they get their regiments of renown? Or are they not getting them? They just gonna be hosed or what?
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>>160560118
So what happened to Gotrek anyway? Is he still slaughtering an endless army of Daemons?
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>>160560180
They're gonna be hosed which is kinda shit.
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>>160560180
FLCs most likely as Regiments of renown take little effort to make
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>>160560220
That's the last we saw of him and then the epicly awesome power metal age of sigmar happened and he was never heard from again. Gone the way of Vlad carstein.
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fucking fuck

so if my Kazrak one-eye gets assasinated and im forced to replace him with some level one piece of shit general, how to I get one-eye back at the head of that army without losing the god damned encampment I've been building the whole game
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OK We're on our way to Eight Peaks. I solved the crooked moon shit problem but just immediately going straight to them and fucking them before they could take the first settlement other than their own then wiping them out. Are rangers shit? They feel a bit shit. Quarrelers have way better armour and the faster speed doesn't really save them from gobbo shits 2bh. Should I settle a grudge with worst dwarves before I make my way to the goal? They tried to drag me into war with Wissenland and then got pissy when I said no then razed the lands that I was using to trade with Wissenland.
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>>160560320

You don't. Welcome to the beastmen, motherfucker
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>>160560320
>Falling for the allowing enemy agents to take actions meme
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>>160560220
In AoS, yes. He finally meets his doom when Grimnir, the Dwarfen God of War, takes a break from slaughtering endless hordes of daemons to tell Gotrek that he was always intended to be his heir. And then he swiftly kills Gotrek before resurrecting him as Grimnir Mk. 2: Revengance; Turbo - Judgement Day: This Time It's Personal. Grimnir then fucks off on vacation leaving Gotrek to fight said endless horde of daemons for all of eternity, something he's actually happy to do.
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>>160560274
I think he became Grimnir or something. This makes me question of the AoS slayers are technically rubbing Gotrek's pieces on themselves like some sort of drug.
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>>160560527
Will they ever release End Times versions of characters for DLC? As crap as the story is, some of the characters could be interesting.
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>>160560738
iirc they said they won't touch end times at all in TWW
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>>160559906
Go into the equipment screen of the army's replacement lord and there's an "exchange lord" option on the bottom right
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>>160560775
That's a relief. They won't blow up the entire setting.
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>>160560320
>>160560415
>>160560514

See >>160560813
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>>160560848
consider this the last triumph of the fantasy setting.
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>>160560738

>wanting CA to put time and money into something that was universally despised by the fanbase to the point where mentioning it pisses them off

Yeah how ABOUT NO?
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What are some campaign maps tips for Shogun 2
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>>160561120
Did someone say "Raise the prices"?
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>>160543540
I don't know why people write the northern 'u' sound like 'oo' it just doesn't read right
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>>160561235

Get food

Secure the trade hubs

Spam Samurai

The end
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what settings gets the best visuals for warhammer? any mods to remove the distant fog/mist? I'm on ultra pretty much but it just seems muddy
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>>160560180
FLC probably
or maybe bundled with expansions
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>>160561859
I too would like to know some optimal settings for balanced performance/quality
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G O B L I N S
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>>160544862
>he hasn't even got wurrzag
DAS A GRUDJIN YOO GIT
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>>160556395
T-thanks anon
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>>160543947
>CA realizes total war arena is a bust
Will total war arena be a bust thought?

Total war is actually one of the funnest multiplayer games out there. Most people who play it just seem to have no friends.

The only friend I know who has it wont play with me because he's awful (only started TW with warhammer) but when I play a LAN campaign with my brother it's some of the funnest shit ever.
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Is it just me or does Vlad's ring feel kinda shitty? Are there any mods out there that fix it or do you guys think CA will adjust it in a future patch?
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>clearing Dwarves from the Badlands as the Vampire Cunts

is this what purgatory feels like
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>>160544119
CA have literally said that specifically because Warhammer and the DLC was so successful they're gonna pour more resources into the expansion.

Overpriced DLC complaints don't belong here, people are happy to pay the huge price because the end product is gonna be a huge life-consuming campaign map that will eclipse everything that came before.
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>>160562626

Okay that's fine but where does the map go from here?
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>>160562727
Naggaroth, Lustria, Chaos wastes.
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>>160562854
King without a throne ain't no king at all, stuntie!
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>>160562984
don't forget nippon
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>>160562586
it's like you didn't know that dwarfs were stubborn or something
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>>160562727

See for yourself

Only question is what expansions happen when
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Where the fuck do ogre kingdoms go?

Are they not on the Old World continent?
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>>160563394
in the ogre kingdoms
east of the plains of zharr where the chaos dwarfs are
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>>160562727
http://es.warhammerfantasy.wikia.com/wiki/Especial:Maps/19604
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I guess this means if a unit that costs amber dies you get the amber back

And if you ally with someone and spend all their amber and then they break your alliance you get fucked
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>>160563473
So there's basically no ogre kingdoms without chaos dwarves?

That has to be good news, right?
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>>160562112
Goblins...
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>The Etruscan League lands a death stack full of Italian spearmen in Magna Grecia
>Odds are against me, 20% chance of winning
>Spearmen get absolutely btfo by principes and triarii
>Romans get minimal casualties, about 60 dead
>800 dead spearmen
I can't seem to do this in Warhammer. My units, including the commander, immediately rout at half strength if they are overwhelmed by the enemy
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>>160563615

So alliances are pointless then
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>>160558919
I always just figured the rape was implied.
Like, you wouldn't rape then NOT eat the captives.
You wouldn't rape then NOT sack the settlement.
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Who is the Bhutan of Warhammer?

Cool ruler titles are very important
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>>160563734
>wood elves finally announced
>release 3 weeks away

WEfags blown out one last time
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Vassals ever worth it in Shogun 2?

VH/VH Otomo, have ignored bushido and beelined all the honour / diplomacy techs on chi, but I've still got global dislike and wars for no reason (only moderate strength rating, against mighty/terrifying AI). In the meantime, I just need the other factions to leave me alone while I build my nanban navy up and grab some tradenodes.

Considering vassalising one of the mainland single-province factions for a +1 honour, to help smooth over diplomatic relations and get trade moving. Could anything negative come of this?
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>>160564006

>wanting to eat something full of your own semen

Gross
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>>160564012

Archaon, The Everchosen, Lord of the End Times, Chaos Incarnate, Herald of the Apocalypse, Warlord of the forces of Chaos United, Scourge of the Empire,
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>>160564131

Only ones far away or on islands (see Chosokabe, Shimazu). Having vassals nearby on your borders just limits your expansion and means they WILL invade you as soon as your armies are bogged down elsewhere
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someone explain this beastmen rape thing
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>>160564338
i hear they rape human female to reproduce and ive heard they rape livestock to reproduce so no idea which one is lore
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>>160564338
They're depraved things that will eat anything and ruin anything. Not hard to imagine that they'd try to fuck anything they could either.
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>>160564415

Never saw anything about that in the fluff.

Sounds like /tg/'s usual fap theories
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Redpill me on strigoi ghoul kings
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>>160561235
Yari ashigaru are your backbone. Rely on them.

Go for stand and fight on your generals - it's good.

See those completely useless fire-mangonels? They force the AI to rush you, even if they're defending. It can be useful to place a single one of them into your armies. They will never get a single kill, but it stops the obnoxious hill camps. European cannons do the same, but they're actually decent against cavalry.

Bow kobaya stacks rule the waves (only with fire arrows)

Keep a metsuke in every single high profit town. They're more use there than anywhere else

Food surplus + low taxes in the long run. It'll pay off.

You want to secure and build up a smith and fletcher province + encampments prior to realm divide. Max attack yari ashigaru behave like samurai. Put them in spear wall, and you can shit on a lot of things with them. Same for archers. Plus, high attack means they gain veterancy quicker, meaning melee defense / reload improves faster. I don't know which of armor or attack is ideal - but I always go attack. I don't think armor impacts melee too much, mostly just arrows. I try not to let my guys get shot.
>>
on steam
"Summary: If you're a Total War veteran looking for an improvement on the last Total War title you were playing, this isn't it. This isn't an exploration of new mechanics or improvements. This is for Warhammer fans seeking a simplified Total War experience."
what does twg think?
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>>160564889
Having not played warhammer, and only having seen it in videos, I can't help but notice how simplified sieges look compared to prior titles.

I get that the AI is braindamaged, but the sieges don't look enjoyable in the slightest. Attack or defend. At least in the past, defending could be kind of fun.

Am I right in this judgment? I've not played it, only seen footage, so I could be wrong.
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>>160564415
They rape the animals and kill the women. It's why the livestock of sacked towns that beastmen caused sometimes give birth to chaos spawn
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>>160565176
Defending in the past relied on cheesing the AI through bottlenecks or how it would give up halfway through if you took out its siege capabilities
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>>160565176

Honestly I dig sieges as Dorfs, maybe Empire because their artillery can be fun to use.

If you're just storming a place, or for that matter defending against a storm, it's just boring. Especially for Vampire Counts.
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>>160564889

> If you're a Total War veteran looking for an improvement on the last Total War title you were playing, this isn't it.

True but every Total War game is basically the same thing if you want to be obtuse.

> This isn't an exploration of new mechanics or improvements.

There he goes with that word improvement again. Warhammer has a lot of new mechanics at least on the battle field level. Flying units, magic, heroes, etc.

>This is for Warhammer fans seeking a simplified Total War experience.

There's a certain banality to this claim. I feel like everyone always complains [current TW] is more simplified and casual. But the thing is, TW has never, ever been a """"""complex""""""" strategy game. It's always basically been a poorly disguised arcadey war simulator.

Warhammer just doesn't waste your time with pedantry.

2/10, at least it's better criticism than DLC SHUD BE FREE CUZ FUCK U SEGA [middlefing_ascii]
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>taking Templehof at turn 1

Is there no greater feeling?
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>>160565728

Dang, Vampires are so under powered and unfun to play on the campaign map, they need more lords you guys. /queue a new free LL for Vampire Cunts

t. Creative Assembly
>>
So I finally decided to play campaign, and a few things are really confusing me.

Mainly, The options you have after defeating a settlement.

1.Why would I ever raze something rather than occupying it, if I want it? Occupying it literally gives no benefits from what it seems?
You get some buildings from occupying, and a small amount of income.

Cant you just occupy it, then take your army out? If it gets destroyed the next turn, how is that a bad thing? What negatives are there?

2. If you sack and then occupy, do the public order penalties stack or override. I cant tell.

3. If you occupy a settlement from a different race, do you not keep any of the old buildings? Seems that you just get the the first rank of the standard settlement type building, but nothing else.

4. If you want to raze a building just to make sure the whole thing is fucked, because you know you wont be able to keep it, and you dont want your opponent taking it back and occupying to get high level buildings back, why not just occupy and demolish it for cash.
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>>160566028
when can we play as the breton vamps
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>>160566962
Occupying a city means you have to spend time getting the public order under control so sometimes It's better to just raze shit just to deprive the enemy from having it.
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>>160566962
meant to say that occupying gives no downsides for the first part.
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>>160561859
Aa settings perhaps anon? the game has a ridicuously blurry filter on some settings so I forced better aa in gpu settings.

also you could get a reshade too, one of the anons who post in here has one, you mighta seen their pics
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>>160542487
I laughed
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>>160553907
Lore-wise they are not part of the World's Edge Mountains Dwarf Kingdoms and do not respect the authority of the High King. Its because of some vague Grudge that was never settled properly.
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>>160564889
>isn't an exploration of new mechanics or improvements
>magic
>flying units
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>>160566975

That's probably what the new VC lord will be. Mousillon as a playable faction with whoever the fuck leading it as the LL. Can't wait until he can vanguard deploy, give magical, poison, and fire attacks to his whole army and has 90% physical resistance and gives every unit in his faction ward saves because fuck you.
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>>160567519
>magic
>aka aoe buffs which existed in previous total wars and some flashy fireworks that don't do anything

wow nice mechanic
>>
Noooo! I just finished a legendary dwarf campaign and got all achievements except the one for building a great hold in Karak Eight Peaks. Thing is, I did build a great hold in Karak Eight Peaks.

Anyone know why that achievement didn't pop? Could I incite a rebellion and get them to take the settlement to rebuild it? I've never seen a rebellion strong enough to capture a tier 5 settlement though..
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>>160567978
>guns
>aka NOT BOWS projectile weapons
i bet you think the printing press was something special & an improvement over literate slaves & writing utensils.
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>>160568248
It was though...
>>
LAST
MARCH
OF THE ENTS
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>>160565619
>2/10, at least it's better criticism than DLC SHUD BE FREE CUZ FUCK U SEGA [middlefing_ascii]
you didn't see the rest of his posts, he dedicated the other 2 paragraphs to talking about DLC. his summary didn't summarize shit.
>>
So are CA even going to bother putting effort into historical total wars now that they see how much money licensed stuff prints? I don't feel good about the next one, either they'll pick a shitty time period or put zero effort into it like Rome 2 and Attila and it'll be a broken mess.
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>>160567069
Why not just occupy it and then demolish everything to make money?
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>tfw don't even wanna play Warhammer until eleves come out
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Is vladimir a better starting lord than Mannfred?
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>>160569028
Yes
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I don't think I can clear this grudge lads
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>>160568983
>every time new DLC comes out I want to wait until it releases before starting a game.

>never want to play
>can't wait to play.
>>
Are IronDrakes the most OP thing in early campaign? Starting with them as Grombrindal is amazing, and they regularly get 200+ kills every battle against greenskins
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>>160568983
>>160569629
>tfw I can't wait to play the next DLC
>tfw when I will have to wait a week at least to play it because I need to wait for mods to update
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Hey Urist, did you hear the one about the Dwarf Slayer? After he lost his head he felt a little, short.
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>>160569568
Don't bring dishonor to your ancestors, dawi
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>>160569568
>More than half the army is marauders and doges in underway battle
You'll do fine
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>>160569992
>ruining the game with mods

you disgust me.
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>>160569992
The only mod I think is essential is the better AI recruitment and the guy hasn't even updated it since King and the Warlord, it still works though.
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>>160569629
I've been stuck like this for ages

it's like a weird fear of what experience you might miss out on if you go in too early?

It's weird, we should just play it and start over when new stuff comes out. I mean fuck it's going to be 3 WEEK till elves
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>>160570117
>>160570253
grudging status: settled

unbelievable, the trolls almost destroyed me, managed to sit at the base of a hill which let my quarrelers shoot into enemy units with impunity
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>>160570482
you playin on easy or somethin?
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>>160570728
vh
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>>160568072
Same thing happened to me in a Clan Angrund campaign, no achievement for building the great hold, it might be bugged.
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>>160562432
Is there a lore reason for Vlad not riding a mount? Isn't he bros with the Red Duke and the Blood Knights?
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>>160543353
Man, I want to see that tree scene from the first Evil Dead movie re-enacted with a Treeman and a hapless Beastman.
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>>160564616
Do Beastmen only reproduce via rape of captives? That's pretty fucking lewd.
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>>160571087
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anyone here played through a chaos warriors campaign? what do you ultimately strive for? what is your army compisisition like? should i ignore cavalry in favor of monsters? maybe one or two fast cav to chase runners and ranged down and all my hard hitters monsters?

help meh
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>>160572858
They have females too.
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>>160572903
i use doggos instead and i have 2 stacks raiding the shit out of the northshits for a while

their cities are surprisingly rich sacking
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>>160573070

yeah the hounds are surprisingly good.
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>>160572903
What I usually do is demolish the building you start with, get the chaos wariror building and stack up on them, then rampage through the north until I get chosen, realize that it's fucking awful trying to raise a second stack and just stop playing chaos

hope this helps
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>>160570823
i thought you dont get achievements for angrund...
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wud elves r dum
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>>160574215
Only lizards are good
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>>160574398
Kroak best Lord
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>>160574569
So fucking modding him with a bombardment spell with 99999 damage, full map radius and 100% miscast self-damage
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>>160575316

Would still get rekt by a stray arrow
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>>160575430
Hey I'm super appreciative of you woodboys, maybe you could come into our magically fucked up jungle and turn into some REAL trees. Just leave those knife-ear inferiors behind.
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>>160568072
Same problem here with regular Dwarfs. Built great hold. No cheevo
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>Reading the 8th edition Wood Elves army book
>going through the seasons and eternal realms and the threats within the forest and outside
>learn about Morghur
>getting spooked
It's not comfy at all. Fucking liars.
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>>160575909
What's not comfy about an unending threat forever hunting you and despoiling all you love?
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>>160575962

That seems like the opposite of comfy tbqh famalam
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>>160575909
>He fell for the comfy wood elves meme
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Have the results for the Mod Awards been released?
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>>160575909
Nobody told you that it was comfy. It's fucked beyond all belief.

>>160575791
Maybe they edited the building line with the introduction of the DLC while forgetting to slap the cheevo line on it again.
Whenever they do fix it(if it is a consistent problem for everyone), just load a save/force a rebellion and lose it and raze it and start again.
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>>160543543

You can see Dryads and some dudes wielding great weapons in the background
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>>160575909
>He fell for the "comfy NEET elves" lie
This is the future you chose.
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3

FUCKING

WEEKS

REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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So, does anybody talk about non-warhammer total war games here at all?

Been away for a few months and I wanted to post my ashilla meme blob but seeing all these WH weebs kinda put me off.

eh. A separate general should be created for the rest of Total War titles
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>>160576391
>welves have eagles
why is it allowed
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>>160576403
Yes but most of us are playing Warhammer.
>tfw 327 hours and we've still got 2 expansions and a whole lot more land and races.
Warhammer is the only Total War that I've actually bought the DLC for without a sale price of 66%+ off.
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Are we getting WELF waifus?
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>>160576667
Please don't bring your cancer here too, waifufag. Vampire-chan was the final straw. I will not stand for this shit.
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>>160576667
We already got superior WELF waifu with Vermintide.
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How do welfs even fly on that tiny birds they have?
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>>160576403
>A separate general should be created for the rest of Total War titles

Already tried, but the mods shut it down.
I'd support it too - even though I like Warhammer, as well.

You just forget about the WH shitters and post it - there'll be people to enjoy it.
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>>160576806
too bad.
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>>160576667
Yes.
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>>160576806
You don't deserve Vampire-chan!
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>>160573504

irrelevant because im playing with radious :^)!!!
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>>160576923
>>160576978
>>160577037
Please... Is nothing sacred to you people?
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>>160576978
this pleases me
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>>160576978
>not posting best girl
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>>160576978
Why are green-haired girls the cutest? :3
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>>160553907
AROUND DWARVES
LOCK YOUR DOORS
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>>160576859
elves are notoriously full of lighter than air gases
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>>160577219
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>You lived long enough to see the waifu age of total war
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>>160577694
I am so glad they made 50% male unit exclusively female.
>Slutty naked witches, and sisters of Avelorn next year
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>>160577832
>You lived long enough to se another beloved video game ruined by waifufags

Pls go back to /r9k/
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>>160577694

Ugly tbqh
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>>160577910
Wait, is the second game confirmed next year?
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>tfw AE campaign will never come out
fuck those faggots so hard
don't make a shitty trailer announcing the release date of your mod if you're just going to say "lol we didnt finish but we totes will eventually guys :)" and then just fuck off for over a month
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>>160578447

That and FOTE
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>>160577694
They remind me of vid related
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yLWQAY4Yqw0
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Any screens of the waywatchers?
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Why are they making a second game?
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>>160579459
Because warhammer cucks are easily parted from their money.
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>>160579459
Because the other races will require new landmasses or a rework of how the Underground works.
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>>160579459
i thought it was just going to be an expansion
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>>160579643
They can't just expand the map?
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>>160579665

Nope, standalone games
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>new maps look great
>new units look great

if only they werent jews
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>>160579618

>cucks

>>>/v/
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>>160579707
>the same races will be dlc again and people will still buy them

Is it going to be set in the same period?
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>>160579459
Cuckhammer is a cash-cow. Why wouldn't they?
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>>160579827

Here let me explain it to you use fucking google
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>>160579808
>using a /pol/ meme to tell someone to go back to /v/
the ironing
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>>160579665
It is, just standalone if you don't have the first.
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>>160579875
make me
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>>160579697
They want our money. But i have hopes they might do a good job. Plus new races will mean new features,especially naval combat for example.

>>160579827
Its gonna expand on the old world.
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FAGGOTS its an expansion, but it will be standalone

probably another 60 dollar game with like 3-4 factions
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>All these nerds asking stupid questions
Lurk moar
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>>160579941

It's the /gsg/ cunts, don't reply.
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>>160579941
Us oldfags amirite xd
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>>160543543
The hunched over treee niggas have the chaos spawn animation and it really drives me up the wall
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You're not really thinking about it correctly. Owning amber is a constant effect. You have 1 amber. You don't really gain 1 amber per turn, but rather just own 1 amber.

Owning a settlement that gives you 1 amber and then purchasing a tech or unit that costs 1 amber means that you'll be on 0 amber. If you lose a settlement you'll be on -1 amber and suffer severe penalties. To help, you can always disband the unit that cost the Amber, but you can't reverse tech's so you gotta be careful you don't lose your amber settlements. Also, you can ally with non-wood elf factions to gain their Amber, as they have no use for it and so just give it to you. Really makes you want to help your allies and protect them.

It's actually really cool and adds a new dynamic to the campaign. You'll get to see an in depth explanation of the mechanics before release from us next week, and I'm sure some YouTubers also.


-Darren
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>>160580137
meme mechanic for a meme race
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>>160579707
Does this mean you cant fight with the original factions if you buy the second game?
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what will be the enxt faction bros
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>>160558704

Orion is Ariel's husband

Ariel isn't actually a playable/fieldable/whatever character on the tabletop so I am not at all surprised she's not in there
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>>160580213
They'd just port them
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>>160580021
Why would you oust yourself like that?
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>>160580137
I think I'll take just a bit of Brettonia as well as bordering dorf strongholds and grab Estalia, Tilea and Border and southern Border Princes.

And then just take Norsca
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>>160580213
No spoonfeeding for you
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>>160580271
I thought they would just expand the existing map with the second and third games
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grudgethrowers or cannons?
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>>160580213
You can for the low low price of $16.99 USD

Each.
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Are the gyrocopters any use or are they just a meme unit
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>>160580513
Skyhammer is dope, otherwise they're only useful for fucking up enemy artillery
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>>160579665
What they're aiming for is three stand-alone games with their own campaign maps, races and DLC.

However if you say own the current game and then the second one what they're planning to do is allow the campaign maps of both games to fit together as a single experience, making the next games work more like an expansion for owners of the first.

Unlike an expansion though expect them to be fully priced games with their own set of DLC.
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>>160576123
nobody except the person who literally posts pasta about comfy elves in every thread
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>>160579459
>>160579707
>>160579904

>All this wrong

The new "games" are functionally identical to stand-alone expansions in practice, if you have the base they it slots into it exactly like an expansion.

They're just calling them "Games" so they can justify charging full price for it.
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What's your estimate that all three games plus dlc will cost overall, not including sales?
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>>160580568
how would they do this, theres not that many races in warhammer SMDH
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>>160580626
$300
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>>160579697
The final concept is a Dawn of War Dark Crusade sort of deal.
So to play the lankycivil war you don't need the basegame and the expansion, you just need the expansion.
There will additionally be THE grand campaign where everything is smashed together. Early on they stated that that wouldn't be ready until both expansions were out, whether or not that is still the case we don't know.

>>160580574
pretty shite pasta for me not to notice then.
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>>160580626
tree fiddy
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>>160580626

They said we should expect similar amounts of DLC for each of the """sequels""" as for the base game.

Right now, for the base game, we're up to 120 Yurobux (can't be arsed to convert to clap-dollars), there'll likely be another 10-20 yurobux worth of DLC before the next full release.

So multiply that by 3 and you get around 400 Euros.
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>>160580805

>we're up to 120 Yurobux

What? Stop skipping school and do math
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>Press space to speed up movement and animations on the campaign map
>But every time you lose a battle the animation of the armies fighting on the campaign map always plays in full
>Pressing space does nothing
>If you win and it begins to play in full you can just press space to speed it up
>But you cannot speed it up whenever you lose
Someone at CA did this deliberately. Absolutely fucking retarded and it pisses me off. Playing Attila now and it does it, and so does Rome 2.
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>>160580513
Normal Gyros I have no idea what they're good for, the steam gun kind of sucks a fat one.

but the ones with brimstone guns are flying anti-armor. So good for chasing chariots and armored cavalry and monsters.

Honestly anything armored or big that can't shoot back is a prime target. Also their bombs are weak for health damage but they do great moral damage.

Honestly I've had better luck with them when using 2-4 units. Just be sure you move them to hit things from behind and you can do a lot of nice moral damage.
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>>160580626
>$60 for each of the 3 standalones
>Already have $60 of DLC and they said this is about the amount we will get per standalone
>$360 all up

That is one expensive god damn game
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>>160580850

I don't get it

Take away the pre-order bonus and it's pretty much exact

Obviously I'm adding in the price of the game itself, since that's what he asked for
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>>160581012
Ok, should I be using the organ gun or any of the other artillery pieces?
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>have to shell out 350 bucks plus the historical tw

CA is really trying to rape my wallet
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>>160581037

>This is one

Nope, it's three
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>>160581146
Its 3 games that fit together, do you underage faggots even understand what standalone means?
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>>160581146

>"They're not standalone expansions despite having all the traits of stand-alone expansions"

Nice try CA
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Some big movements on the database. Pic very related.

6 depots added and all the branches have been updated. Crumpets had been left alone for over 3 months and now just updated. Cascade was added the day before welf reveal. Waterfall and Waterfall2 are definitely the Wood elf and supplemental free DLC's(rumoured to be Morghur LL and 3 new Beast units).

When they confirmed this upcoming DLC was the last biggest DLC for the base game, they weren't kidding. I assume Crumpets is actually Bretonnia race pack.

So we can only assume now that this is the last campaign pack for the base game and Tomb Kings(possibly Cascade?)with map extension for example might actually be a Race pack on its own.
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>>160581037
But anon the expansions are the SAME as the basegame. 4 base races and a large map. They confirmed the expansions will be bigger than planned due to Warhammers success.
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>Over Gyrating Shaman every 5 turns

This action does NOT have my consent.
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>>160581305
I really hope you're just pretending to be retarded right now

Go have a look at how SupCom and SupCom Forged Alliance works and educate yourself you underage newfag.
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>implying this isn't true.
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>>160572858

They do rape their captives, but then usually eat them before anthing can come off it.
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So how exactly does Bretonnia play? Mediocre anvil made up of peasants, with a heavy hammer from their grail cav and medium level archers?
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>>160581012
>the steam gun kind of sucks a fat one

What about the one mounted on the Empire Steam Tank's turret? Is it any good? Or does almost all of its damage come entirely from its melee attacks and the frontal cannon?
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>>160581429
Third.
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>>160581387
I'm not the guy you are talking to anon. I saw you mention expansions. I'm just saying the price will be worth it considering they've confirmed they are bigger than planned and with 4 base races(originally was going to be 3).

So the "expansions" are basically the same size as the base game in initial races and landmass. My hopes for a larger New World are reignited.
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>>160580626
I'm going to say, take the base cost and double it.

Even faction that comes with the base game will get Lords/unit addon packs and every DLC faction SHOULD get free units. (CA have said they wont do DLC for DLC)

THAT SAID we still haven't reached the end of the DLC for Warhammer so depending how things go it could be more than that when all is said and done.
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>>160581532
>I'm just saying the price will be worth it
No one can say that, you're just being unjustifiably wishful and hype train filling.
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>>160581247
wew lad. Lots of secrets.
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>>160581567

>No one can say that, you're just being unjustifiably wishful and hype train filling.

No he's not, they literally just said that.
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>>160581606
>the price will be worth it
learn how to read before you post
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>>160581567
Warhammer has been well worth it so far.
Only TW game I've bought the DLC's I'm interested in day one.
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>>160581037
While I agree, honestly it's nothing new? Like look at Rome II on steam, The cost of all the DLC is only just short of the cost of the game.

It's more like 3 games that will bolt together if you have them than one game thats vomiting DLC. At least I hope thats how it plays out.
>>
Beastmen still aren't worth it for me as I hate horde factions. I'll probably buy them at 50% off or something.

Am I acceptable /twg/?
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>>160581902
No one gives a flying fuck how you spend your money you autist
>>
Do the skill-tree buffs effect garrison armies?
The ones that say (Lords army) ?

Im keeping a lord with very few units to defend my capitol. Dont really need many since the garrison is huge.
Dont know how to lvl him.
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>>160581072
Personally I've never gotten much use out of the organ gun. I like the idea of it but just haven't worked out how to use it well.

Really it depends on what your army composition is. If you're lacking anti armor/large I'd go with Organ guns/Cannons. If you need anti infantry then grudge throwers are great and accurate. Bolt throwers are really good at anti air/cav mostly.

Flame cannons are a bit iffy, they're good on anything without heavy armor but once your lines meet they can cause a a lot of friendly fire, so you want to hit any big blobs in the back or things like ranged cavalry. That said I've found they're quite nice if you can slap one of those anti armor banners on them.

You can go wrong unless half your armor or more is made up of artillery. Just make sure you point them at the right targets and it should be fine.
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Total scrub playing Attila. Really want to play a bastion of civilisation to stand against the rampaging hordes but get the impression that surviving as romans is not for the faint of heart. Any suggestions?
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>>160582007
Its easy as balls, just do it
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>>160581902
Beastmen are shit in multiplayer, and their mechanics are the same as chaos in campaign. And Todbringer is worthless in multiplayer too.

I kind of regret the purchase.
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>>160582007
Abandon Christ and scrap the churches they cost too much to maintain early

Abandon the fringes and fall back to Rome then reconquer later
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>>160581037
Check CK 2,HoI IV and EU IV prices and thank CA that they have actual content that requires work at fair prices.
>>160581247
Oh shit. They've really ramped up the development. I guess they now have a set release window for the expansion(My guess Autumn 2017) and are adding the DLC's that will fill the gap once Bretonnians come out in February as part of the "Old world edition patch". If they add Tomb Kings as a race pack and extend the map into the Land of the Dead and Araby to bridge the gap to the expansion into the new world. I'll be so hyped.
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>>160581902
Only DLC purchase for TW that I regret really, I also hate horde factions and on top of that they have a terrible mini-campaign and the race in general is just another hurrdurr evull CW ripoff
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>>160582068
Should I literally abandon settlements or just let them be taken after selling all their stuff off?
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>>160581945
I think they only buff the units in that particular lord's army.
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>>160582152
Just leave them and bring your armies home. If you try and hold it all you'll be fighting on so many fronts against so many factions that you'll just bleed to death.
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>>160581902
>>160582059
>>160582130
I bought the Beastmemes just so that I can murder-castrate the entirety of their current roster in custom battles.
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>>160581456
The one on the steam tank is fine because it's kind of like a bonus weapon? Like the main attacks from it are from it's melee/cannon. The Steam guns can do work on unarmored things, like Savage Orcs, but anything even with a it of armor gets no more than a tickle. At least at the moment.

Steam tanks kick ass though.
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>>160581902
>No beastmen
More than acceptable true understander. Looking at the welfs(which look content heavy with cool mechanics). I think CA have learnt from their blunder with the Beastmen. imo If I were you, wait until the Beastmen are 66-75% off. Big disappointment.
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>>160581429
third
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>>160581902
I like Beastmen and even then i do think they're the worst pack so far. That said they are the only good horde faction CA have made so far so that alone is a step up.

Don't listen to /twg/ just buy what you think you'll use/will be fun.
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>>160581429
Second will open the west, so Lustria and Ulthuan.

Third will open a bit to the south and the east.
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>>160582007
>Play WRE
>Do what its in my picture and filename.
>Have fairly comfy place to regroup,tech up and reclaim the Imperium.
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>>160581945
Only units IN the lords army. Garrisons only get affected by faction wide abilities or research
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>>160582346
>-495
That seems worrying.
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>>160582346
I didn't even know getting those kinds of numbers was doable, good work.
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>>160581247
>So we can only assume now that this is the last campaign pack for the base game and Tomb Kings(possibly Cascade?)with map extension for example might actually be a Race pack on its own.
Seems reasonable.
They probably have their campaign team finish off Bretonnia, then jump right into the next game.
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>>160568958
You can't occupy every settlement.
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>>160581902
goodgoy/10
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>>160582613
The main fantasy team has been working on the second game since before May this year. The DLC team have been doing all the current and upcoming content. I'm only guessing the DLC team have been given a rough release date so they're getting all the current game content lined up and ready to fill the content drought between Bretonnia and the expansion. As I said my guess will be Autumn 2017. I'd be very surprised if it was earlier.

We now have confirmation(courtesy of Eurogamer) that the second game will have 4 base races(95% likely HE,DE,Skaven and Lizard) and a landmass similar in size(New World) to the base game.
>>
Do fear and terror items stack?
I got some mask item that gives Franz fear and terror. Dont know if I should get the Deathclaw now.
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>>160582613
Wait so brettonia is last dlc before next game/expansion?
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>>160582909
>ready to fill the content drought between Bretonnia and the expansion. As I said my guess will be Autumn 2017.
Autumn seems a bit late to me, seeing as there is only one racepack left after Bretonnia.
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>>160583028
No.
Wood Elves are the last "big" DLC i.e campaign pack but after Bretonnia it will be free content and minor paid stuff but its very likely that a Tomb Kings race pack with a map extension south could fill the gap between base game and expansion.
See
>>160581247
>>160582909
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when?
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>>160583028
Not necessarily the last one, but I think there won't be any more mini campaigns.
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>>160577375
This stupid cunt was so annoying in the show. Even seeing this picture of her makes my blood boil.

>I WAS NOT THE ONE WHO SAVED THE DAY AND BROUGHT DOWN THE SHIP? YOU ARE IGNORING ME? WAA WAAA WAAAA.

Cunt.
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Lads, competition winner here. The prize was a miniature greenhouse and some dill/soil to grow. Also getting a code for the DLC emailed
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>>160583148
They also said there'd be more communication to follow. Maybe I have to successfully cultivate this little plant.
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>>160582129
This map needs to have Daemons of Chaos at the very top of the wastes. All sixteen army books have been confirmed, so they'll be a separate faction from Beastmen and Warriors of Chaos.
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>>160582945
I'm not sure on that either, but you should get Deathclaw just for how much of a combat beast it turns Franz into.
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>>160583074
Summer 2017 would be the earliest release window then.
Say they release a Tomb Kings race pack and map extension south May/June. Then around September/October an expansion release to the new world with 4 new races added to the growing roster.

Each race takes about 4-6 months to create and have to have unique playstyles,mechanics,architecture,technologies,voices,models etc. Its not like past total wars which are just cut and paste. Beastmen released in July and Wood elves are releasing in early December and its believed concept work for them began back during the games launch in May.
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>>160582945
Probably not.

Get Deathclaw, then give the mask to another Lord like, say, Volkmar.
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will the next warhammer games have their own opening cinematics?
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>>160583209
The map may be outdated now. It's been confirmed yesterday that more work is being done on both expansions than originally planned due to the success of the base game and also extended their free content release schedule because of this.
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>>160583315
>ach race takes about 4-6 months to create and have to have unique playstyles,mechanics,architecture,technologies,voices,models etc. Its not like past total wars which are just cut and paste
Well, in this case it's made a bit easier by elf animation skeletons already existing (if they don't just use human ones) and HE and DE having quite similar rosters.

I think it will be summer, if only to keep everyone's interest.
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>>160583427
Most likely as they are standalone

Base game is essentially the first act. Second game builds upto the coming storm. Third game is the final act and the ultimate enemies(Daemons of Chaos) arrival. Its why the end of the base campaign is so anti climactic with no cutscene because its only just begun.

Imagine how crazy the victory conditions will be for each race? Surely they have to edit them all as more factions and land appears.
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>>160583527
>Its why the end of the base campaign is so anti climactic with no cutscene because its only just begun.
Yeah, I'm gonna chalk that up to budget rather than artistic vision, anon.
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>>160583524
Good point same skeletons for the elf factions. That would definitely help speed up the development of 2 of the 4 factions.

So a May 2016-September 2017 dev cycle for an entire landmass,4 races all distinct from each other and possible naval combat is actually feasible? Unless of course the concept part of the second game and map designs were done way before May which means development has actually been going on longer than thought.

It took from January 2013-May 2016 for the base game but they had to build everything from scratch. The worlds now been established and they can build on from that.
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>>160583592
It's all been planned out this way. Even the DLC's are done geopolitically.
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>>160583697
Part of me thinks they've been developing this since the last game shipped. I mean, there were leaks for Warhammer back when Rome 2 was just new out - that's a 2 year head start. They'd have to have started on the sequel quickly post release.

They're in for the long haul, and planned as such.
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>>160583697
>So a May 2016-September 2017 dev cycle for an entire landmass,4 races all distinct from each other and possible naval combat is actually feasible?
I'd say a summer release is feasible, yeah.
Wouldn't necessarily bet my life's savings on it,
but I think they can pull it off.
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Give Grombrindal
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>>160583870
no u
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>>160583746
Even then, there is no good reason they couldn't have included a shot cutscene for every faction, even if it is just a game engine clip of victory with some hinting towards the future.
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So let me get this straight we have:

>Paid Wood Elf campaign pack (December 8th 2016)
>Free Bretonnia race pack(February 2017)
>Six more pieces of free DLC(Between December 8th 2016-Mid 2017)
>Possible paid Tomb Kings race pack and map extension south(A few months after Bretonnia)

Before the first expansion a.k.a second game comes out?
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>>160583960
No
Yes
maybe
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>>160580137
ATLEAST ITS NOT A FUCKING COPYPASTA OF THE GREENSKIN MECHANICS

They could have made the wild hunt a bloody WAAAGH lite, but I'm so glad they made it actually interesting.
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>>160583960
Sincerely doubt there'll be a map extension before the second expansion since they said that the WE dlc would be the largest until then, and while they add settlements they don't add new map. Doing that would be considered at least as big, and probably bigger.

No kangz4u
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So Lore of Life/Shadow plus their respective wizards, Morghur plus all of Orion/Durthu/Morghurs quest maps are the (basically) confirmed FreeLC's right?
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>>160580137
>To help, you can always disband the unit that cost the Amber
Oh, thats a bit disappointing

I was hoping amber was a one cost thing, so if you spend 10 amber on a unit and it died tough titties for you.
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>>160580137
>It's actually really cool
Just saying it doesn't make it true, Darroo
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>>160584124
Getting into trouble for losing outposts seems like pretty tough titties to me.
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>>160583870
>tfw got grombindal but will probably not play by the time he gets released for everyone anyway
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>>160584146
I don't know, I think it sounds pretty cool.
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>>160584153
>losing outposts
>having them in the first place

Turn 1 declare war on Chaos, go fight them with a 20 stack. You'll instantly gain overwhelming support from all the other factions and can then just ally them for all their amber.
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>>160578308
Given that they keep hyping Wood Elves as "The last big thing before Game 2", I think it's pretty likely that they're going to release it sometime next year.
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>>160584228
>Turn 1 declare war on Chaos

There seems to be problem with your plan, senior.
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>>160583820
Yeah a Warhammer folder on a Rome 2 developers computer was seen in a dev diary for Rome 2. Pic very related.

The deal with GW for a 3 game trilogy was signed in late December 2012. A rough full time development start would be January 2013.
>>160583821
I guess so. I doubt they started concept work for the New world expansion in May. So a rough January 2016 date for concept art,campaign and battle map design and rough tech trees and first renders etc was all laid out ready for the full team to get to work after the first game release.
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>>160584228
Hmm, I'll probably want to keep Orion around home base, but I like the idea of having one old bitter motherfucker who spends all his time in the north, killing Mon-keigh...
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>>160575909
This is what I keep telling people.

Even their woodland spirit friends love stealing wood elf children from their cribs.
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>>160584272
I do it all the time for legendary Empire campaigns.

It completely fucks up the AI since everyone who is supposed to hate you and attack you early on will want peace/wont attack instead.
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>>160584336
And since you can take any settlement you can literally just take 1 chaos city and camp it with a elf 20 stack and enjoy endless fights, infinite regen and free diplomatic love from everyone forever.

I dont think they really thought this through at all. CA has never been good at looking at their own games and saying "okay, how will people abuse the shit out of this"

Obviously if you dont abuse this Chaos thing then it will be more difficult, but still.
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>According to ET fluff, Lady of the Lake is actually an elf goddess
>Who left the elves behind for superior bretonnian worshippers.

Why do people call Bretonnians cucks again? If anything, they're the bulls.
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>>160582909
>Post expansion
>Allied with HE against Chaos
>Accidentally drop the the Skyhammer's entire loadout on your aliies
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>>160584078
By big I think they meant mini campaign which diverts resources. Athel Loren is a 6 region province for Grand Campaign so new land technically is added.

Araby and the Land of the Dead would have to be the same size as the mini campaign to give it some justice which is usually 30-50 regions. So you're probably right. it would be on par with the welf pack.

Plus we all assume the first expansion is the new world simply because of the dataleak, it could be the second. Meaning the first would be Skaven,Tomb Kings,Chaos Dwarfs and Ogres with the second expansion being Lizardmen,DE,HE and Daemons. Pic sort of related how the border would likely look if the first expansion was that. I made that as a guess back in April. I was nearly spot on with the official ingame map though that adds in a smaller Araby into the game.
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>>160584450
Because you didn't read the fluff are spouting memes.
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>>160584450
DELET
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>>160584450
Angry elfposters can't deal with the best faction, and they know it.
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>>160584518
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>>160584446
>CA has never been good at looking at their own games and saying "okay, how will people abuse the shit out of this"
Once you get above a certain complexity, itr's more or less impossible to make a game that's not exploitable in some way.
In any case, I don't have any qualms about cheating a bunch of ones and zeroes..
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>>160584518
with the elven skeletons ready there's no reason to wait until the third game for them
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>>160584450
Because that was relatively new and most people posting about warhams read the fluff 10 years ago when it was hinted at, but never stated and everyone assumed that it was something totally different to what it was.
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Reminder that
Superior Dawi Ranged Weaponry>>>>>shitty elf stick with a string.
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>>160584518
For now they can probably get away with just adding Khemri, which seems doable.
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>>160583960
They really went all in on the death thing didn't they
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>>160576093
1212 won
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>>160584739
Thats outdated rules
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I'm redownloading this after a few months since I've got an SSD so it should actually load at a reasonable pace.

Have they fixed Legendary Lords in terms of balance? It so stupid that every LL who isn't a faction leader is garbage.

One of the big things they cited for the game, but it was blatant they put no work into Kremmler and others like that.

Also, any essential mods?
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>>160584779

The entire land was killed and raised, so they just kinda rolled with it.
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>>160584794
Both of those are 8th ed.
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>>160584617
>landmass between naggaroth and lustria
>not lizardmen
Elves lost at mountains chess, m8
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>>160584846
True, it was a quick and dirty thing I slapped together to answer an anon who wanted to know which faction lived where.
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>>160584836
No, its not, check the warhammer website.
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>>160584805
Better Army Compositon & AI Recruitmen
Better Camera
Cataph's Magic
Home Region Movement Bonus
Less Blood, Less Gore
Proper combat Mod
Resized Lords & Heroes

I'd also recommend No Agressive AI Agents
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>>160584887
>Warhammer website

Are you talking about AoS?
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>>160584518
Oh shit, I remember you posting that pic dude. Everyone said thats bullshit and your map ended up being correct minus Araby. The actual ingame map includes that entire area where the red line borders are with fog covering it.
Really good guess and add in the current ingame map which shows a planned out south and eastern map with no signs whatsoever of the new world...
Its fun speculating which way they could go.
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>>160584945
See >>160584887

Not going to waste any time on your ignorance

t. /tg/
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>>160584617
What are you trying to say? Posting a pic with no context. Are you saying the eastern and southern map will be gradually extended with race packs?
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>>160584805

If you want a mod that makes the shitty LL less shit, you could try the Legendary Lord Traits mod.
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>>160584805
I'd recommend All Tabletop Lords over Resized Lords and Heroes (since they aren't compatible from what I understand).

>>160584973
So you admit that you're just spouting bullshit?
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>>160584891
Don't forget

Better Campaign Map
Chaos Water

For extra campaign map immersion.
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>>160584973
Aaah, the good old "make claim and then call the opponent ignorant and lazy if he expects you to back up your statements" gambit.

You have learned much in the ways of tumblr trolling.
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Athel Loren canonically is a land that has a tenuous relation with space and time. It is much vaster than it appears on a map and yet, through the whims of the forest, it is possible to enter and find yourself leaving immediately from the other side.

Similarly, what you perceive as a mere day inside the woods can be a century outside it.

It is precisely because of this special relationship with the dimensions of time and space that 2D waifus are able to live there. They are locked in struggle against the brutal 3D wageslavery of the outside world, and the unquestionable best faction.
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>>160585148
>>160585006
>samefag
Not him but fuck off
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>>160584973
>>160585217
>samefag
Not him but fuck off
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>>160585149
>le time is conboluted in Athel Lordran :DDD
More like meme elves.
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>>160584739
Reminder that TWW doesn't use the rulebooks accurately because
>balance
Wood Elves are already confirmed the best archers by far, and it has to be like that for the game to work. What the hell do you think they are doing with all the unit balance changes all the time?
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>>160584891

>Less Blood, Less Gore

There doesn't need to be less it just needs to be done better.
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>>160585242
>implying
No one gives a flying fuck about the tabletop rules shitposter

Also what this anon said >>160585285
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>>160585302
There's still guts & body parts flying around.
Only real difference is the blood being actual splatters, not a coat of paint.
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>>160585149
I will really miss this

But I want someone to do a skaven/bretonnia and tomb king version of athel loren/it is now X posting
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>>160585267
Waifus are real thanks to irregularities in space-time, friend

The real question is if you need Japanese or Fan-Eltharin to talk to your waifu

(Just to be safe i'm studying both)
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>>160542487
Threadly reminder that the following are rightful Asur clay, and therefore rightful Asrai clay so from now on please refer to them with their correct names.
Dietershafen - Athel Toralien
Marienburg - Sith Rionnasc
Altdorf - Kor Vanaeth
Talabheim - Athel Maraya
Kislev - Athel Numiel
L'Anguille - Tor Alessi
Thank you
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>>160585285
>>160585338
>samefag
Not him but fuck off
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>>160584518

Don't play the table top and barely know the fluff, are skaven just in the new world then? I thought it was just the assassin clan that was there.

Pretty annoying that we have to wait for new expansion / game for skaven though as they're my favorite army and would play as them if AoS didn't sound shit.
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>>160585414
>getting this butthurt when your shitpost fails
Amusing.
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>>160585382
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>>160585450
>Don't play the table top and barely know the fluff, are skaven just in the new world then?
Giant man rats? Pffff, they dont exist what are you talking about.

They're everywhere anon, EVERYWHERE
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Any speculation of who could be the Old Friend? He's probably going to be offered with the Tomb Kings DLC
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So when do you suppose we will be getting the New World trailer?
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>>160585541
Some time around the period that which it will be released not before or after

How the fuck should we know anon
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>>160572202
Hemroids
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>>160585541

In approximately 267.34 days.
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Wakfu elfposter, wageslavery poster, RIGHTFUL CLAY poster, It is now ___ poster, Elves are for ____ poster

It's been a long road, but the end is in sight. Wood Elves are finally coming!
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>>160585639


It was the hell of a ride
>but...but...I DONT WANT TO PLAY AS DWARFS
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>>160585639
Yes, thank god those memespouting morons will finally fuck off.
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>>160585639
>Elfposters keep talking about how comfy it will be to remain in their woods the entire game
>The amber mechanic means they'll pretty much have to go out and fight shit.
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>>160585718
>Elves being in the game will make the elfposting subside

anon, I...
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>>160585718
Brett posting is gonna start, don't worry.
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>>160585689
>That massive one and a half month buildup with everyone thinking Wood Elves were just around the corner because of the leak saying they were next
>That explosion when "For any of those of you who feel a bit green, don't worry about coming up short ;)"
>That one denialfag who kept claiming it was about minis
>All those pontus memes
>UNWANTED DLC FOR THE TWO BORINGEST RACES REEEEEEE!
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>>160585724

You can get amber with diplomacy
Besides, they do, technically, stay in the forest, since all of their other cities outside are just outposts
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>more and more units getting added
>less and less attention can be given to older units
>volley gun will never get the love it deserves
WHY CA WHY
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>>160585776

The elf-posting will be even more intense when the new world expansion looms
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I don't like Orion, he looks like a cunt.

I hope Araloth comes soon
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>>160585851
>Diplomacy
>With middle mountain dwarfs

Bad idea, bud.
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>>160585932

Yeah, they should have gone with

>Araloth
>Sister of Twilight

Orion should not even be permanently active
and Durthu is fucking dead
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>>160585991
He's an angry burning tree, why would he give a shit about dying?
>>
mini campaign map when?
campaign gameplay when?
artwork when?
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>>160585912
Lizardman poster here.

We won't go down without a fight.
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>>160586023

Because his soul got btfo
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>>160585991

>"Muh continuity"

Actually literally who cares

Azhag says Hi
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>>160586043
>best soldiers
>best magic
>best monsters
Less a fight and more a genocide, the other races dont stand a chance.
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>>160585991
>Durthu is dead
Pretty sure he's alive in 8th ed present time.
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>>160575909
Poor Morghur
He just needs a hug
>>
I fucking love trees
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>>160575909

Wood Elf life is extremely uncomfy

Like half of the forest spirits fucking hate them and want them gone.
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>>160585912
>implying
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>>160583960
>Before the first expansion a.k.a second game comes out?

It could work actually. First game would be 7/16 Second game could fill in most of whats left and the last game (If the rumors/leak are true) Would be all about chaos divided. So the 4 gods, Chaos dwarfs, probably Ogres/Dogs of War given they have units in mix in a few other armies, and just maybe some of the important minor factions, Araby/kislev/southern realms.

BIIIG maybes though.
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>>160584113
+Jabbas, Gorgons and harpies
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>>160586153
next you'll tell me its not comfy being a turk in germany

Going to have to ask you to stop making toxic comments about elves
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>>160586189

Jabbermemes is never, EVER, happening.

Too many Charliemans
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>>160585875
Volley gun is actually pretty good. It needs some chevrons first though.
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I wonder how Wildwood rangers will work.

I hope their "Guardians of the Wildwood" special rule will be represented in some form.
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>>160586161
Oh boy is it time for us to build up a collection of memes
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>>160556148
Delete the code
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>scalies are already here
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>>160586463
>CA makes Slann REEEEEEE when they miscast or take damage
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>>160586414

Extra damage to units that cause fear

Its not that complex
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Is Tomb Kings poster dead?
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>>160586669
he's undead
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>>160564616

nice orgy you got there, would b a shame if something happened to it
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>>160586669
He's with Grace now.
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>>160585991
>Durthu is dead
but that's fucking wrong you fucking oxygen thief
>suggesting that the Wood Elves should be lead by Literal Who Araloth who is fucking worthless rather than the actual king of the wood elves in a game where CA has said time doesn't advance
>suggesting they should have the Sisters of Twilight as leaders when they dont do actual leading
you're fucking stupid desu senpai
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>>160582909
Is there an Empireish human faction in the new world that is big enough to play? I love playing slaughtering monsters as empire
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>>160586597
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>>160585932
I hope Araloth never
he has no magic items and is bland as fuck
no character and no items = no go
He is worthless as fuck and I cannot understand why you retards keep asking for him
>h-he looks like a stronk elven l-leader..
no
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>>160586807
i think the short answer is
no
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>>160584518
DRAGON ISLES YES PLEASE

GIVE ME LIZARD VAMPIRES
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>>160586463
>reading up on lizardmen units
>are effectively the morale and armor of a dwarf combined with the attack of Chaos while immune to fear while fearing other units and the magic of the fucking God Emperor of Mankind

So they might as well call this Total War; Lizardmen and a few other factions who are their bitch
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>>160585991
Sisters of Twilight would've been the waifu and thus 正しい choice
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>>160586807
There are human pirates in the new world as well as some colonists
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>>160586807
The Lizardmen don't really care if people settle outside their jungle and the only habitable place on the continent is the coastline, so the Norse, Vampires and Estalia/Tilea have all set up colonies there, but that's it unless you count Pygmies and Amazons from the older editions.
That said most human and elf factions do launch expeditions to the New World, even Dwarves on occasion.
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>>160586807
There are a few settlements/trading outposts on the coast so there's a good chance there will be at least one empire faction over in Lustria. I doubt they'd be a playable faction but as long as someone makes a faction unlocker it would be do able.
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>>160586989
I would love to play a conquistador southern kingdom with missions to find gold and kill lizardmen.
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>>160586669
All of them are playing VC, you know, because they are pretty the same
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>>160587039
There is actually a fairly large amount of lore that is exactly that

Basically a bunch of human colonists who live on the beaches of lizardman land and go around raiding old temples for gold. Usually everything goes find until someone steals a sacred tablet (because they are all written on gold) and lizardmen fuck the absolute shit out of the colonists. Or in one case they threw all the gold they had at the lizardman army and the lizardmen picked up the one gold tablet they wanted and just left.
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>>160587139
>tfw you never got into this shit when you were young
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>take over the southern badlands as the Bloody Handz, let Grimgor take the north
>bully Border Princes into submission for fat stacks of cash
>Raiding Tilea/Estalia with Savage Orcs and beginning to encroach on Bretonnia

God greenskins need the tomb kings funland added to the south, shit is so boring without doing cuhrazy stuff like fucking with Bretonnia with stinky savage orcs and flattening knights with Gorks Foot
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>>160587201
Its kinda funny to think about it but Warcraft was originally going to be a Warhammer game until Games Workshop does what they do best and fucked up their deal with Blizzard

>WC3 would have been Warhammer
>DotA would be Warhammer based
>WoW would have been Warhammer

>You will never get to play any of those games
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>>160586161
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>>160587302
i think it was that starcraft was supposed to be a warhammer 40k game
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>>160587343
They talked about both. GWS was even worse with their IP back then than they are now, basically wanting full control of everything at all times.

Thats what happens when you have a whole company run by nothing but kikes.
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>>160587310
Well then

That was strange
>>
>black orcs and a catapult
>arachnarok spider
>a giant
>or some gobbo archers
>>
Is Warhammer actually good or do you just play it because it's the latest TW and not any worse than the last few?
>>
>>160587726
It's good. It plays really well.
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>>160587726
A bit of both
It's one of the better total war games and it's constantly getting new stuff
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>>160587726

Its good
Its getting content monthly
And each content improves the game a bit more.
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>>160587726

Subjective improvements include better field battles and factions that aren't just the same shit over and over in different jerseys.

Objective improvements include end-turn timers that don't take a week and a much more regular stream of new content

Degradations include worse siege battles and brainless city management (though city management has arguably always been brainless)
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>>160587726

Only thing that's not as good as the previous games is the depth of the campaign map, it's a bit simplistic with just having to deal with happyness and corruption.
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>>160587975

If we take Attila as an anomaly rather than the rule, the city management of TWW is not very different from ROME 2
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>>160587310
Sauce?
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Is it bad that I really want to play WH, but haven't bought it yet, because I don't want to burn myself out on a half finished game?

I just don't want to play something like how release was, get bored / finished with the game, and never enjoy the campaign map with rats and rapegoats running around on it.

Post Bretonnia, I'll probably pick it up. Was my waiting worth it?
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>>160586936
Ha! Lizardmen master race!

Wimpy-nerdy reddit rats and their super-unstable gadgets BTFO
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>>160588153

I mean, I'm not tired of it yet, but your mileage may vary.
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>>160586563
>implying the majority of Lizardmen fans aren't asexual like their favorite race
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>>160587975
>worse siege battles

I like them because they actually work. It's harder to cheese the AI when defending because they actually manage to do siege battles now. They AI also does fairly well at defending.

They are fast paced and have good pathfinding. Siege defense also happen fairly often in the late game which wasn't really the case for Attila(which has more interesting sieges). Most sieges in Attila and Rome 2 was with smaller non-walled settlements.

The only problem with the TWW sieges is their small size really.
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>>160588089
Even if TWW has limited city management, it still requires some strategic thinking.
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>>160588313

>I like them because they actually work
>The AI also does fairly well at defending.

What a load of crap, the AI LITERALLY can't defend against you if you bring a bit of artillery and 4-5 skirmishers.

It will sit there and let you pelt every one of it's units to death, moving it's own skirmishers into range piece-meal so you can insta-gib them without them getting to loose a shot.

As Dwarfs and Empire it is impossible to lose sieges past the early-game. Fuck, you can take most sieges without moving anyone except a single lord character past into the actual city you're taking.

It's utterly fucking broken and idiotic, the AI won't even fall back to the city center when it knows you have the ranged advantage, it'll just keep moving new units into the line of fire.
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>>160588456
>What a load of crap, the AI LITERALLY can't defend against you if you bring a bit of artillery and 4-5 skirmishers.


Kek I didn't know that. I just do sieges in a full on assault.

Still, siege defense is enjoyable and I have had a lot of close fights with it.


I never got that big epic battle of constatinople in Attila so I say this is an slight improvement.
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>>160588456

VC will actually send out its flying units against you if you camp the corner

Last siege they also sent out a couple of zombies, still nothing I couldn't handle.
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>>160569837
Skarsnik's starting Arachnarok Spider is pretty gud
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>>160588102
The Holy Mountain
Its on Vimeo and Youtube for free
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>>160586597
Did archaon wake up one dat with all northern tribes having written "dick" on his helm while he slept or something?
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>>160588102
The Holy Mountain

It's weird as fuck tho
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>>160588153
I'm actually blueballing to have a proper campaign with all things added myself.
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>>160587726
It's not as deep as some of the older games but it is good and slowly getting better with each major update. A few things are a step forward and others a step back but it's been enjoyable.
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>>160585875
You know nothing, volley guns are amazing, give them a try against dwarfs and chaos
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Does anyone here use goblin great shamans or necromancers?

What's the point of those generals exactly?
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>>160588756

>VC will actually send out its flying units against you if you camp the corner

Really?

I sieged Drakenhof just yesterday and the AI didn't do diddly with it's Vargheists, it didn't even send them after my gyros when I flew them over the walls, it only retaliated when I had the gyros actually attack them.

I never even saw the Terrorgheist, I think it was just sitting in the city square the entire siege and I eventually killed so much of their army with just my quarrelers and Skirmishers that it crumbled before I even got to see it.
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>>160589223
Buff your troops with shaman
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>>160499918
roll
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>>160589223

Necromancers you plonk on carts and have them be healing/buffbots. No clue bout the shamans though. Dont they get some nice buffs from the little waagh as well?
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>>160589376

I can load the replay and screencap if you want
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In FotS, who's best to side with for Ironclads - America, France, or Britain?
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>>160589540
France
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>>160588313
Honestly I do like the new sieges. I think they're poorly implemented for the moment but I love that the cities feel like cities. Like you said though they just need to expand the maps more. Have more objectives/city past the wall. Play up the fantasy element, have weird or elaborate designs and layers of defense. It would also be nice if they could put in some more race specific or just more siege engines.

Other than that the only real gripes I have with them in Warhammer is I miss the defensive deployables/walls/fire from Attila. Also the settlement battles, I feel you could bring those back easy for Warhammer.

I just hope as the games go on they keep adding to everything rather than focusing on what ever is new.
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So which unit in teh game is worst in your opinion? All greenskin mounted skirmishing units are trash in my opinion, but goblin wolf chariots take the medal here easily. They are bad as chariots, they are bad as archers, i don't even know why would you even use them.
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>>160589832

Probably the organ gun
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>>160590085

Not even close, the Organ Gun can still shred shit like Chaos Warriors on a map with terrain that can accommodate it, it's just way to annoying to use effectively but it CAN in fact be effective
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>>160590182

Lad the organ gun has 30 ap, the only thing they can shred is flagellants
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>>160589832
Yeah Wolf Chariots are insanely bad
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KotBS

VS

Reiksguard

place your bets
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>>160590408
Reiksguard


>That glance on that one knight
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>>160586563
>its anthropomorphic so its furry
Please kill yourself
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>>160590580

Correct

I guess if you need to kill units with regeneration KotBS have their purpose
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So what happens when welf treefolk meet pic related?
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>>160590581
t. furry in denial
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Also the RoR Reiksguard has no reason to exist unless you really want a unit with vanguard

Demigryph knights are vastly superior for just 100 more gold
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>>160589832
I don't think Spider Riders are that bad, I often use one or two to prick the enemy with poison before my melee units charge them.
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>>160590724
Firewood happens, and a lot of grudge-settling.
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>>160590724

They said tree units will have the fire damage weakness thingm
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>>160590724
Maybe letting units on fire will be a new mechanic.


Also didn't CA post a gif/short video of Vargheists getting hit by fire arrows
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>>160590085
Its one of the best cannons in the game

Would you faggots please learn how to position cannons properly

Against the AI the second is just absolutely broken as fuck. You can wipe out any unit by firing up its flank and the AI will never be able to counter it except with flying units
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>>160590728
Furry = Sexual

Anthropomorphic =/= Sexual

Please learn the fucking difference.

And if you're going to bitch about sexualization of Lizardmen, which hasnt happened, then you should really be complaining about Elves which have been continuously sexualized.
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Meanwhile blood knights can hold their own against the RoR halberd demis
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>>160590724
I'm amazed how much less bullshit CA showed us in pre-release material, especially compared to Rome 2. I actually watched a couple of videos they showed us before release, and the game looks worse in them.
>>
Question:

What exactly is the point of the Varghulf?
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How do we fix empire knights?
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>>160590728
Lizardmen are awesome and not for penis so they aren't furry.
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>>160590724
The 24 nerds with flammenwherfers get shot with arrows, ya dingus.
The trees then proceed to curbstomp the rest of the dawi
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>>160591165
in tabletop i think it was for killing infantry, like many monsters were
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>>160591165

Hit and run, pesker flanks/ranged/arty and retreat to regen up a bit again. Or to disrubt enemy formations just before the clash.
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BLOOD

KNIGHTS
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>>160591327

That never happens.
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>>160591179
make them available more early on for starters, I think
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>>160590728
>Asexual Pepes whose only method of reproduction is doing technically jack-shit, as new Pepes simply crawl into existence out of magic pools between long intervals.
>"lol furry/scaly"
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Why does Mannfred get bitchslapped so hard when Franz has much worse melee stats?
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Waifus soon
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>>160591565
It's the mounts. Dragons actually attack far slower than regular monsters or Griffons. Deathclaw is probably getting in 2-3 hits for the ZD's 1.
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>>160591667

>Meanwhile Azhag beats him with no spells

I should use him more
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>>160591660
Aye, waifus soon indeed.
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>>160591728
I wish they made Azhag get his Wyvern and spells at least a few levels earlier.

It's pretty fun seeing him trash the shit out of Khazrak then finish that furry bastard's ass off with a few casts of Spirit Leech in custom battle though.
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>>160591667
They need to unfuck Dragons, Terrorgheists and a few other ecksbawks hueg monsters. There's literally no point in giving Mannlet the Zombie Dragon instead of Hellsteed if you want him to fly.
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>>160591165
I always thought of it as a very mobile battering-ram. If you get it up to speed you can smash right through an infantry line and then go hit the artillery or skirmishers, or attack the infantry from behind.

Also if you support it with a unit of skelly spears it can take on most monsters and heros.
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>>160590724
Hopefully they are set alight as a death animation.
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Jeebus H Christ, how come odds are even? They have 2 full stacks of squigs and 1 gobbo stack
>>
ASININE MORTALS
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>>160592497
them's exploding squigs innay
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>>160589832
flame cannon
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>>160592663
If I saw that flying over me I'd just leave the battlefield
fuck that
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>>160591165
I'm late, but I had a single Varghulf kill 3 cygors in one battle once. The fucker saved my ass from my own stupid army composition.

Worth noting, however, that this was during an ambush battle and the AI never pulled any other units to help the Cygor that was getting dunked on. The Varghulf only took about 500-600 damage when he was done with the 3rd one.
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>>160592965

If there's a monster worse in melee than the Varghulf it's the cygor
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>>160593001
here I've been thinking for months that Vargulfs are super op. Maybe that's because I only play campaign but they just fuck up any unit i drop em into
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>>160593001
Don't bully Fluffy von Carstein!
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>>160592915
flame cannon can do a ton of damage
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Is it possible to recruit Grombrindal whilst playing as Clan Angrund?
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>>160592915
>more reliable and easy to use than regular cannons
>absolutely melts infantry
But why, anon?
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>>160592497

Nigga use your damn eyes

Each of those squig "units" have a SINGLE squig in them.
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>>160592497

>No ranged

get fucked
>>
>>160592915

Maybe at launch, but now that it can lob it's shots it's perfectly decent.
>>
I am not satisfied with any of the faction renaming mods and am considering making my own.

I want to change "The Empire" to "Reikland" until it confederates. I want to change the Dwarf faction names to their Clan names. I may change "Greenskins" to "Ardboyz", because Grimgor's faction is no longer the sole playable Greenskin faction. Not too sure what to do about Vampire Counts or Chaos.
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>>160593306
Are you refering to the fact that it lobs?
Vanilla dorf cannons are amazing. Their accuracy is incredible. If you have a slope to fire over your own men, or there are enough large targets standing tall over your own men, they're like mini armstrong-guns.

>>160593442
Sylvania obviously. Warriors of Chaos is accurate enough, Everchosen's Host if you really want them to be special snowflakey.
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>>160592497
>He doesn't know
>He has no ranged units
Please, drop an amen for this poor fella here, 1 amen = 1 prayer
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>>160593246
confederating dwarfs when he's on the map
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>>160593353
>>160593560

What is this meme? There's 2 units of Savage arrers right there
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>>160592927
You would be executed for cowardice
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>>160593685
He should be using Savage Black Orc Looted Thunderers (Great Weapons)
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>>160556148
rollin
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>>160587201
>1st Exp comes out
>realise that there's actually 5 playable factions
>you are able to play Don Tortillez Lopez de Matagreenskins
>tercio pikes, field cannons and conquistador skirmishers
>GA actually includes a minicampaign where you conquer Lustria by marshalling armies of discontented Skaven to fight alongside your small mobile Estalian band in order to topple the Lustrian empire

How awesome would it be?
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>>160593442
Vampire Counts -> Sylvania
Chaos is okay, perhaps, Chaos Invasion or "The Everchosen's Hordes" or "Chaos Incursion" or something like that

You can't make the name change from Reikland to The Empire when it confederates, that I know of, Reikland + "The Empire of Man" mod when released should be good enough
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>>160593890
What about Chaos Excursion?
>>
Is Morghur going to be AI only?
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>>160593959

Almost certainly not.

Why would CA put all that effort in and then just waste him like that?
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>>160593876
all skaven are discontented, you don't marshall them, you threaten them with more horror than running at the enemy naked evokes

>>160593925
Chaos Picnic.

>>160593959
Oh yes, most certainly.
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>>160593959
In the mini-campaign? Pretty much confirmed, they said you could play the campaign as Orion or Durthu. So no playable Morghur.

He'll hopefully be playable in the regular campaign.
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>>160589832
Black Coach by far. It's absolute garbage.
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>>160593997
>laughingtodbringer.jpg
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Post ending in 7 renames this motherfucker
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>>160594394
Björk Bjërkl
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>>160593997
One word: Toddbringer.
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>>160594394
Chong the Slanty Eyed
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>>160594394

>1 uncommon and no rare items

More like Houbas the poor.
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>>160594351
>>160594532

Todbringer is coming later you dummies

Who do you think is the old friend, with Middenheim behind it?
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>>160593890
Throng of the End Times might work for Chaos, since that is the goal of that particular group.

But really, Warriors of Chaos works, it distinguishes them from the Chaos factions who stay in the Wastes.
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>>160594394
Donald Drumpf
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>>160594394
George
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>>160594532
a head reskin of a normal empire lord. And he's playable in MP/customs for flavour anyway.

NEED A NEW THREAD MY DUDES.
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>>160594617
fug
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>>160594617
lmoa nice
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>>160589832
>greenskin mounted skirmishing
Those

There should have been more orc melee unit variation
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>>160594606
I agree on that theory, but you've just highlighted my point.

"Later". I'd love for CA to make Malagor a playable LL choice for Beastmen in the grand campaign but I'm not sure they'll do it.
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>>160594606
What would be the point of doing anything more with Todbringer? As much as we like to meme him, he's nothing more than a slightly beefier than normal general
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>>160594617

WE'LL SACK BRETONNIA AND MAKE THE LADY PAY FOR IT
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>>160594532
>>160594351

Moghur actually has special abilities and shit on the tabletop, Toddy boy is literally just a guy
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>>160594723
new startpos

Some units from Storm of chaos (Herman went from obscure dude from a FW book to a LL, so why the fuck not?) like Knight of the white wolf or whatever
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Attila scrub again. I can confirm that plan 'burn everything' is fantastically effective. Having near infinite cash to make fortress Britain is handy.
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>>160594785
NEW
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>>160593959

nah it looks like they put a lot of effort into the morghur model. they'd be fools not to add it into the campaign.
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>>160571087
>kill the arachnarok queen 7 (seven) times in my Angrund campaign. How big is the arachnorok royal dynasty?
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>>160573951
no, you get regular dwarf achievements as them
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What is counted as large for the "Anti-Large" bonus? Cause a lot of shit is large for a Dwarf.
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>>160595204

Anything as big or bigger than an horse says the description
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>>160577694
I suspected that they'd take the model with the least revealing outfit and apply it to the whole unit, unless there's more variation with more tiddies
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>>160578819
good god that gave me cancer.
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>>160582270
>rolling pin club
love it
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>>160589540
Roanoke a shit, don't know about France but Warrior is objectively the most powerful ship in the game
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