/dsg/ Demon's/Dark Souls General

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First for Trapfu

>>>/r/14962600

>III fans think WAs compensate for the variety of powerstancing

HA

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Dead Thread.

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>smelter helm/jester's chest/havel/havel
>resonant weapon
>resonant flesh
>numbness
>sacred oath
>resplendent life
>powerstanced greataxe/great club

>>160497448
>Powerstance variety

Powerstancing was literally 7-8 additional "moves", some even shared fucking animations with other weapon classes, and to top it all off the amount of fucking stunlocks that it opened up was bad enough that I never want to see anything like it ever again.

>>160497594

WAs are literally 7-8 recycled movesets that also make entire buttons useless, and forces you to sink points into ATTN

pcfcbf

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>>160497635
>and forces you to sink points into ATTN

>>160497638
it's 4 in the morning shut the fuck up about fcs

>>160497635
>sink points into ATTN

I have literally never sunk points into ATTN to use weapon arts, most of them consume so little that the only time it actually comes into effect is during prolonged coop boss fights where the shitter of a host has summoned 3 phantoms to carry his ass

>>160497593

>havel mom
>giant dad
>dark magic users
>tracer spam
>large club hornet ring backstabbing ringswap meta
>darkwood grain ring
>twinks

>>160497742
my post was a single build, defend that

>>160497638

Where?

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>Gets shit on by a streamer who is SHIT at pvp
>Turns on hacks

clips.twitch.
tv/manvsgame/TenderLyrebirdDansGame

I hope for his sake he killed himself afterwards

>>160497763

Literally wait for one minute. You only ever saw that in the arena when they had 15 seconds to prepare.

>>160497697
It's how I show my love for them!

TSVAI-HEND-ER

>>160498084
SUAI-HAHN-DER

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>>160497593
>let people buff for 30 seconds
>hurr durr this is op

(you)

>>160498084
TZweehahndeere

>>160497879
>>160498131
>wait out their buffs
>still have stunlock weapon combo and huge def+backstab damage reduction
>and playing on wendy's wifi

>>160497836
fuck off shill

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>>160498231
Oh, i guess you didn't kill yourself

Could I get a some help with consumed king? He is driving me nuts.

PC
Password dsg

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>>160498227
Keep on digging, I'm sure there are more excuses that you're used to down there.

Is the washing pole slower than the uchi and other katanas? I hear conflicting reports.

Does anyone have frame data on weapons in DS3?

>>160498597
>frame data
this isn't a fighting game dude chill out
just swingy your swordy at the other guy

>>160498520

Sign down, let's go!

>>160498553
while you're doing all that running away why don't you go ahead and find how to sound like you know what you're talking about

DETAILING

>>160498520
>>160498653

Thank you Ignorant Slave. Most helpful!

>>160498802

R1, Pyromancy! Did he predict DaS3 PvP?

>>160498869
>FUN
Obviously not

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I fucking love Chaos.

Is Iudex Gundyr the hardest first boss?
I beat orphan yesterday and I died to gundyr today.

So is 40 endurance still the thing to go for?
Or is it like Bloodborne and you don't need that much

>>160498084
>>160498169
ZWEI-HÄND-ER

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>Weeaboo Hunter
>Animu Flip Sword
>Naked
what is he trying to achieve with this build

>>160499047
>You either die a hero..

>>160498980
there is literally nothing wrong with a normal set of thighs instead of a spiderbutt
>>160499014
he does like no damage whatsoever

>>160499034
>t. triggered German

>>160499047
he's a hunter that's a weeaboo, he doesn't hunt weeaboos

>>160499078
>Because he's the hero Irithyll deserves, but not the one it needs right now...

>>160499014
DeS has the hardest first boss because you are expected to lose

>>160499086
>there is literally nothing wrong with a normal set of thighs instead of a spiderbutt
True, but there's nothing wrong with a spiderbutt either. Chaos is comfortable with diversity.

>>160499034
shweehandy

Is 7 extra shield stability worth 12 more points in str if I'm going to use anri's straight sword?
PvE only by the way.

>>160499341
when you 69 quelag, do you put your dick to the spider or quelaag's face?

You should probably kill myself yesterday

>>160499390
>ywn face fuck queelag

Just fucking die in my sleep already

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>>160499460

Get a spider.

>you will never help peel Quelaags quivering pale form out of her old exoskeleton after a molt
it hurts

Are the sunlight maggots quelana's other sisters?

>>160499152
ah, self-deprecating humour i see

>>160499390
>Quelaag's mouth is actually the spider's waste disposal and sex orifice
jesus christ how horrifying

>>160499595
Fuck it keeps happening

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>>160499492
REPORTED
RREEEEEEEE I HATE SPIDERS
DELET

I absolutely could not stand Dark Souls after the massive and very blatant drop in quality once Ornstein and Smough are defeated. The game needed another two or three years of dev time.

Anyway, I come to ask if the other Souls games are more finished and polished? Specifically, Demon's Souls and Dark Souls 2?

>>160499595
I think they're all fragments of the Witch of Izalith. The Sunlight Maggot taking over Solaire and driving him mad is kinda like the deal with the bug and the Lost Sinner.

>>160499703
They're all obviously one half to 2/3rds finished. It's a trademark of the series. This is a dev whose ambition constantly outstrips their time and funding.

>>160499703
DeS is probably the most consistent.
DaS2 not so much.

>>160499703
DeS is the more finished one and the one with most consistent quality, most levels are liked by some people. 2's quality is all over the place and is likely to make you give up before you get to the few good parts.

>>160499703
Bloodborne is probably closest to being "finished".

DeS hides it well but is in the end, also unfinished.

DaS2 is the worst in the series in this regard.

DaS3 is so fragmentary anyway that you can't really tell if it's finished or not, it's kind of a separate problem that feels the same if that makes sense.

If you're ranking by consistency/being polished then:

BB>DeS>DaS1>=DaS3>DaS2

Pillars rankings :
God tier:
>Lobosjr
>Youtube ENB
>Emarrel
>MenasLG

High Tier:
>Martyrsbrigade99/jblackmel
>lb
>Zulliethewitch
>SunLightBlade
>_Flash
>Scas
>Krekk0v
>PewDiePie

Decent-tier:
>Peeve
>rbFrosty
>Sanadks
>Vaatividya
>Twitch ENB
>ThePruld
>DSP
>Ippiki9

Low tier:
>A German Fedora(desu aside from the fedora and few cringey outbursts he's actually decent)
>Oroboro
>Yukaslegion
>OnlyMeme
>Scottjund
>Jerp

Garbage tier:
>Rest of Soulbrandt faggots

>>160499996
>yukas
>not the highest tier

Sounds like someone is asking for a ban

>>160499931
I'd say
DeS=BB>DaS1=DaS3>DaS2

DeS is technically unfinished, with the broken archstone, but there's no blatantly unfinished/rushed areas in the game, like Izalith in DaS1

>>160499931
This person is correct. I say this despite actually loving DaS2.

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>>160499996

Where's Miltrivd?
Where's Enisle?
Where's Otzdarva?

how is there an active general for a series of nothing but unfinished games

HOLY SHIT

FIRST TIME BLOODPORN PLAYER HERE

I BEAT MY FIRST BOSS

FATHER GASCOIGNE

IT ONLY TOOK ME TWO TRIES TO BEAT HIM AND I ALWAYS SHOOT HIM WHEN HE JUMPS ON HIS BEAST FORM TO PARRY HIM

I FEEL AWESOME

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>>160499632

>>160500136
Gz.
Not to shit on your parade, but Bloodborne has its own general. This place can get a bit triggered

>>160500136
As much as I want to hate people who started with BB, I then remember the DaS 3 newfags, have fun.

>>160500135
What's there is good and interesting.

>>160500136
and so the slow consumption of /bbg/ continues

Soon we will be reunited in one general again.

>>160500135
Name a game that is 100% finished, with no rushed areas

>>160500181
kek

>>160500253
Undertale.

>>160499703
hahahah nice joke. no, all of these games are massively unfinished. of the souls, demon's is the most finished simply because the unfinished areas were cut
>>160499931
we haven't been able to dig in bloodborne's files yet afaik. there could be cut yet undiscovered content

>>160499931
BB severely drops the quality of virtually everything past the Yharnam.
DS3 is way more consistent overall and entirety of Lothric Castle is probably the best final levels the souls series ever saw.

>>160500234
Hopefully not.
And i say that as a /bbg/ regular

>>160500316
What sort of shitposting would it bring here?

I'm somewhat glad you guys got to keep lucy to yourselves, don't be mad

>>160500234
fuck no
bb should stay in /bbg/ for the sake of both generals
it's already hard enough to share the same general with annoying ds2 faggots, add bloodborne vs ds3 into the mix and we will get an even worse general than /dsg/ is right now

>>160500253
There's degrees. There's at least one really obviously unfinished are in every souls game.

>>160500384
Lets just stop discussing it, nothing good will come of it

>>160500284
>we haven't been able to dig in bloodborne's files yet afaik. there could be cut yet undiscovered content
Every game has cut content. Every single one. It doesn't make the game seem unfinished unless there's vestiges visual to the average player.

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>>160498084
>>160499034
GET IT RIGHT
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EoyRcGkDnJo

>>160500308
>DS3 is way more consistent overall and entirety of Lothric Castle is probably the best final levels the souls series ever saw.
You may like it as a level because you're entitled to your opinion, but you can't deny that upper Lothric Castle is a rushed badly patched up piece of shit.

-Lots of areas withot textures, floating things, a wall with texture that doesn't fit (you know the one)
-Unoptimized, takes way more to load than other areas
-Champion in bugs during online
-Color Glitch (I've never seen it happen anywhereelse)
-All enemies are just reused mobs with buffed stats
-The only elevator with a lever that serves no purpose
-A lot of areas with unfinished look, bad textures
-Pointless dead ends
-Two bonfires 10 meters from each other

>>160500492
I want to see his face

>>160500492

I unironically like this guy. It's so cute how he has a dead man's switch type of video on his channel.

How is this for a retard proof pve build?
https://www.mugenmonkey.com/darksouls3/117734

Rings and boss weapons can be dropped, correct?

What can't be?
Covenant items, uprgrade materials and boss souls? Is that it?

>>160500524
>The only elevator with a lever that serves no purpose
????????

>>160500492
CRINGE REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>160500661
spells, but that goes without saying. that's it

>>160500667
The double elevator has a lever in the middle floor.
You never pull it because one of the two alternatives(going up or down) is always there. Yet there's still a lever

>>160500492
h o l y s h i t

>>160500725
Thanks

I've been away for a while and i was wondering how dark sword/10 the Saber/Captor nerf was
>Fromsoft patchnotes
Still vague as fuck

>>160500635
>98
>pve

>>160500661

Weapons, if their upgrade level is too high.

Man, I love hacking online and pwning the scrubs.

>>160500789
What did he mean by this?
Please no bully I only played the game once and it was months ago.

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>>160499034

Lern Deutsch, Neger.
Zwei-Hän-Der.

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>>160500524
>optimization
Do i need to remind you that nightmare of mensis dropped FPS to single digits from certain angles
>I've never seen it happen anywhereelse
It can happen anywhere.
Actually now that you mention it, i don't remember seeing it since August at the very least.
>-All enemies are just reused mobs with buffed stats
It introduced two new types of enemies and almost every "reused" mob has changes either in attack types (fire Flamberges, axes and bomb for thralls, crystal buffs for knights, golden angels who are like twice as strong as normal ones on top of having twice as much abilities) which is at least better than the nightmare of Mensis where only two new enemy types were introduced without any ai changes to the rest.
>Pointless dead ends
There's no dead ends that are pointless. Most of them either lead to items or secretly lead shortcuts including the one that allows to get right to the scholar near the last bone shard going past the lothric knight and thralls.
>Two bonfires 10 meters from each other
This is a result of "boss bonfires" being a thing and it doesn't hurt the level in the slightest.

>>160500284
People are ripping PS4 discs now so hopefully someone at Xentax gets on that shit.

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>>160500606
>I unironically like this guy.
He's very, very goofy.

>>160500527
It's hard since he's wearing a fedora covering his face in every single pic/video I've seen.

>>160501049
love it

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I wish Champion Gundyr had a secret if you killed him without getting hit, like Alonnes sudoku animation.

And the secret should've been Old King Dorans death scream

Y/N?

>>160501032
>Do i need to remind you that nightmare of mensis dropped FPS to single digits from certain angles
How is that related to Dark Souls 3? One bad area in another game doesn't excuse another.
>Actually now that you mention it, i don't remember seeing it since August at the very least.
Happened to me the other day.
>It introduced two new types of enemies and almost every "reused" mob[...]
Most of these are in the Archives, I'm talking about the Upper Lothric. I mean, there are new mobs there, like the priests, the winged knight and the ugs lk.
But MOST mobs are just reused, the same mobs a set of stairs of distance but somehow they are super strong. It just breaks immersion, it's lazy, artificially making them stronger. They didn't even bother giving them an explanation for being there. What the fuck are the Cathedral Knights doing in Oceiro's party?
>There's no dead ends that are pointless.
What's the point of the dead end where two Lothric Knights pray, near the Caitha Chime?
What the points of those huge areas after Dragonslayer Armour that leads to a single chunk?

I mean, none of these are really that big of a deal. They are very small issues, but they add up and make very obvious that upper lothric castle was patched up rushed area. They probably wanted it to become a earlier area, seeing how the Dancer had is damage and HP buffed to accommodate a higher level player, without adapting a moveset meant for lower damage (this is noticeable by the fact that she deals more damage than any other boss in the game, being able to one shot a character that can would survive Champ's full charge or GwynSoC wombo combo).

>>160500932
first off, while pveing, you don't really care about levels unless you meant coop. even then, the game is over by level 80 or so and you'll find far less summons in general

How to make a Reviewbrah build?

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>>160499996
>Lobos, the uploading whole streams channel, God tier
>Pewdiepie
>Lightning Blade high
>Peeve higher than Oro

yeah, no

>>160501601
>How is that related to Dark Souls 3
Because the whole dispute started with "what souls game can be considered most finished"?
>It just breaks immersion
Lothric troops and knights inside the lothric castle breaks your immersion?
Holy fucking shit batman.
>What's the point of the dead end where two Lothric Knights pray, near the Caitha Chime?
It's a way of escaping the ledge after getting the chime, what about it?
>What the points of those huge areas after Dragonslayer Armour that leads to a single chunk?
If it leads to an item, it's not pointless.
> but they add up and make very obvious that upper lothric castle was patched up rushed area
I don't know what the hell you even expected from it. Entirety of lothric castle has some of the best encounter designs i've seen in series, it's a big level that even affords some small branching paths and filled with thematic enemies. It's certainly hell of a lot better than any other final areas in any other souls games.

>>160501952
>>Peeve higher than Oro
Is this counter bait?

>>160501840
>How to make a Reviewbrah build?
Clandestine coat
Leonhardt's leggings

Stack hotbar full of consumable items
Always proper bow in the beginning of a fight
Instead of fighting try to negotiate with the other party to resolve the conflict peacefully (Chameleon in some safe area), make videos reviewing the various consumables found in the game.

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>>160500020

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Can someone help me transfer my sage+2 ring on PC or drop me one that isnt CEd?

:3

>>160501601
>What the fuck are the Cathedral Knights doing in Oceiro's party?

They're Consumed King's Knights, they have different armor.

>It just breaks immersion, it's lazy, artificially making them stronger
They still correspond to the player's overall strength level and the mobs are actually using different armor in Lothric Castle than the high wall.

They did this in Demon's Souls without even differentiating the look of the soldiers in Boletaria 1-1 and 1-3 with the exception of some added-in enemy types.

>>160502309
>one that isnt CEd

Does that even matter in DaS3?

>>160501979
You're missing the point you fucking dingus. I'm not saying it's a bad area. I'm not saying is the most rushed of all games. I'm not saying is Izalith levels of rushed.
I'm saying that it's clearly rushed and patched up. That's obvious from a technical point of view.

You can like it. You can think it's a good area.
But it IS rushed and technically flawed. That's a fact.

And again, it's not about isolated huge flaws, it's a about small flaws adding up. Of course when isolated they don't seem much.

>Lothric troops and knights inside the lothric castle breaks your immersion?
Learn to read. The same mobs, who look exactly the same, have the exact same moveset, same everything but are somehow leagues stronges than the identical one a set of stairs of distance.
Why does it does more damage if it's the same weapon, being swing by the same kind of creature, in identical manner, with identical speed?
It's lazy and breaks immersion, kills the sense of progression, equivalent to level scaling.

>It's a way of escaping the ledge after getting the chime, what about it?
There's another corridor there and why would anyone drop down instead of boning? The drop down brings so much back in the area it would never benefit anyone.
It's bad design and also there's a floor without texture there.

>If it leads to an item, it's not pointless.
It is. Just putting the standart corpse with a glowing non-unique loot doesn't make an area useful, specially one so big and with so much empty space and false floors that you can fall throgh.

>>160502309
>one that isnt CEd?

why does this matter?

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>>160502165
Why the fuck someone hasn't made a .gif of Point Down or a complete list of Dark Souls 1 gestures?

Would be cool if someone did that, while wearing the intended "poster boy" armor for each game (except with DS3 probably using the default Knight armor instead of Soul of Cinder's bs)

>>160502309
i can give you one, i'll put a red sign near the High Wall bonfire, password is ring

Is 328 AR on a spear bad in DaS3?

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>>160502483

What would be the best area to do it in? The Abyss?

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>>160502309
>drop me one that isnt CEd?
Whether it's CE'd in or not doesn't matter.
With the banwave, they were banning people who had +1 / +2 rings on an insufficient NG cycle, they had no real way of knowing whether your ring was CE'd in or traded.

Unless an item is one that couldn't be done in the game (such as poison binoculars +5 in Dark Souls 2) then the only thing they can check is flags (i.e in Dark Souls 2 they banned for items that you couldn't posses with your current Soul Memery or if they were from a DLC you didn't own.

So is Way of White Corona worth bothering with now?

>>160502634
Firelink/Abyss works fine. As long as it's not somewhere where the effects/lighting from the background distract from the gesture / obscure vision.

>>160502678
>they were banning people who had +1 / +2 rings on an insufficient NG cycle
So they banned people, possibly newfags as well, if they were traded it 100% legit?

>>160502509
omw, was zoning out.

>>160502634
I miss shrug

>>160502403
>my personal opinion is a fact!
Never change, /v/.
>same everything
Except it's not the same everything. Even basic mobs get subtle changes. Archers get explosive arrows, like half of the lothric knights are red-eyed ones, some troops get lloyd talismans. And it's only natural to assume that the castle is guarded by elite forces that are way tougher than troops stationed at the high wall.
>There's another corridor there
No, there's not If you drop to the thunder stoneplate +2 and chime, the only way out is through the knights.
Why not boning out? Because not everyone does this area alone, be it invaders in your world or white phantoms, that's why.
> Just putting the standart corpse with a glowing non-unique loot doesn't make an area useful
Your definition of "useful" is yours alone. It's a insignificantly small side path that rewards you for curiosity, nothing more and nothing else and certainly not useless.

>>160502768
>So they banned people, possibly newfags as well, if they were traded it 100% legit?

Yes, people got banned for legit trading DLC weapons in DaS2 as well. The fact that the game allows for this and people on consoles don't get penalized for it, is a result of lazy checking (understandable since they're doing massive banwaves and they're checking a lot of people in a short time) where they simply check for items in the inventory you shouldn't have.

It isn't something that happens normally, but when Fromsoft gets pressured to handle cheaters, they can go in and do a lazy banwave like that and claim they're doing something.

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>>160502509
Thanks Safety, much appriciated.

Have a good friday :3

>>160502961
Jesus fucking christ, that is batshit retarded.
So the rule of thumb is; don't pick up ANYTHING a phantom drops you, because you migh get banned because of Froms incompetence?

>people got banned for legit trading DLC weapons in DaS2 as well
This one i'm not too sure about. Iirc, people without the DLC could be summoned into the DLC Co-op areas, and enemies there dropped the DLC weapons.

how does this look like for a Guts build?

https://mugenmonkey.com/darksouls3/117750

>>160503118
>
So the rule of thumb is; don't pick up ANYTHING a phantom drops you, because you migh get banned because of Froms incompetence?

Have save backups ready. But yeah, generally I wouldn't pick shit up,especially weapons / armor.

They don't care about DaS1 though so I didn't mind picking up 99 Gwyn's souls from a phantom.

>Iirc, people without the DLC could be summoned into the DLC Co-op areas, and enemies there dropped the DLC weapons.
Obviously weapons that were in static loot drops or boss weapons.

>>160503118
>and enemies there dropped the DLC weapons.
Yeah, but you don't get item pickups as a phantom, except for lifegems.

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What armor should I wear if I want to cosplay the Night King?

>>160503349
Morne's armor set / Chain stuff looks like it's gonna be the closest.

>>160503336
Wait a minute, yes you did in 2, I distinctly remember being summoned to help someone clear horsecock valley and getting a pair of bone fists off the reindeer

Before that I got drops all the time from shit other people killed while I was summoned.

It was 3 that removed drops for phantoms which is fucking gay

>>160503349
Yuria's dress with Morne's Leggings and Firekeeper Gloves, maybe.

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>have that bug where you can't hit the host and his phantoms during the invasion, while they interact with the world just fine
>destroy the bridge right in front of them
>turns out, they can't even see you
>watch them stand there for a good minute, completely dumbfounded, not knowing what just happened

I should've known sooner, and I would've destroyed the bridge right under their asses.

>>160503336
>>160503502
All the challenge areas had a chance for a special DLC item if you dumped your sign in the area before the DLC door.

>>160500136
Congrats

>>160503663
Remove your tripcode.

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>>160501248
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D3Wa4bx6t-A
Not a real laugh riot, but more of him fedora-ing.

Anyone on Ps4 keen for some Nameless King? Im feeling like some boss killing tonight
By the lever
Pass is dsg

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>>160503798
>PS4

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>>160503742

Why am I watching this again? Why torture myself like this..

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>use firelink greatsword
>activate the WA
>invader runs to attack
>poise through his hits and flat out kill him with the combined hits from the move

>>160503842
Yes, he said PS4.

You don't mean to tell me that people in this general actually play the PC version, do you? People actually play the worst version of the game on the worst platform with the absolute worst playerbase? You're kidding me. I refuse to believe anyone is dumb enough to do that.

>>160503798
On my way.

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>>160503851

>>160479329
>>There being such a ridiculous imbalance does matter, are you fucking stupid? That's the reason they didn't have in any of the other games. And yes I know no one is technically forcing anyone to use anything you dumb fuck, but you're at a severe disadvantage if you don't, which shouldn't be the case for a mismatched armor combination

That's the problem with shitter, such as yourself, you just parrot what you hear without ever trying to understand the reasoning behind it.

They didn't have particularly great stats most of the time, they just had a better poise to weight ratio. Because DaS1 worked around break points, the extra poise didn't even matter. All you needed was like 53 poise and you could tank a hit from pretty much anything but an UG class weapon, and those were so slow that you would need to be a retard to get hit by them anyway.

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>>160503875
Question. Does the +80 AR buff apply only as +80 fire damage?

>>160503267
>Have save backups ready
So if i ask someone to drop me a specific weapon, make a backup of the save before i summon him, and he decides to be ebin troll and give me a +3 ring or whatever, i just replace the save and then its all good?

>>160504137
>>160503267
>>160503118
This why is from should turn off the cheat detector and let players handle this.

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>>160503798
>>160504051
Pls respond

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Any PC coop buddies awake at this hour?

>>160504283

Is Claire trans?

t. Clay

>>160503950
Put your trip back on, Lucy.

>>160504116
Remove your tripcode.

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>>160504283

Yes.

>>160503875
>standing a football field away
>opponent uses firelink WA
>roll a few miles to the side just in case
>still get hit
S H O C K W A V E S

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>>160504465
Hey Severo.

Wanna join my run through Crucifixion Woods?

I'll be at the Halfway Fortress.

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>>160503851
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HQLVeCzZT6s

If there's one good thing to say about AGS it's that he's a gun owner. Probably lurks /k/ too.

>>160504618

Yeah, password dsg?

>tfw can't beat Cleric Beast
I shoot his head, get a riposte and now I can only randomly trigger that parry.

What the fuck am I doing wrong?

>>160504680
Yep.

Don't happen to have a spare Spiked Mace do you? I've killed like 30 evangelists without getting one now.

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>Whenever I see that thumbnail it makes me think Ashen One is making lewd gestures at Yorshka.

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>>160504623
So that's why he wears the fedora. How old is he? Seems pretty early, poor guy.

Also
>Fedorafag owning a gun
>A good thing

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>>160503798
>>160504234
Well fine then. I didn't want to do coop anyway.

>>160504757

I have one, it's my last spare but you can have it.

>>160504824
Have patience dude

>tfw attempting a no-summon challenge run
Wish me luck

^
EZ (you)'s

>>160504781

>Seems pretty early
A childhood friend of mine was bald at 20. I thought he was shitting me when I saw him again because it was Halloween but I didn't mention it, turns out it was for real.

@160504947

New favourite shitpost

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>>160504137
Anyone?

>backup reds unzipping the curse weppy
wew

What's a good SL and Weapon range for an invader build where the people I'm invading is actually challenging and not boderline retarded? I want to make a sniper build for funsies.

@160504947
is this the hot new meme

>>160504824

Sorry my dude, i actually beat him second try solo while waiting
I can use some help on my mage for Consumed King though, if youre down for some jolly co op?

Where were you when you realized that there is no such thing as good invasion SLs in 3?

Low level is the same shit with a different color. You fight ganks, no matter what. 100+ still gives you frequent invasions anywhere. It doesn't matter.

Official list

God tier:
>Lobosjr
>Emarrel
>Otzdarva
>Hellkite

Alt God Tier:
>Santa
>Zulliethewitch
>Malcolm Reynolds

Parry God Tier:
>Lobro

High Tier:
>Setzeri
>Youtube ENB
>Scas
>Krekk0v
>PewDiePie
>MenasLG
>SunLightBlade
>collageanon

Turle Tier:
>Enisle

Normal Tier:
>Vaatividya
>ThePruld
>_Flash
>Martyrsbrigade99/jblackmel
>PvPSkillZ

DSP Tier:
>DSP

Decent Tier:
>Peeve
>rbFrosty
>Sanadks
>Ippiki9

Feet tier:
>Dodger

Low tier:
>Twitch ENB
>A German Fedora
>Oroboro
>Yukaslegion
>OnlyMeme
>Scottjund
>Jerp
>RubJellyonMe

Garbage tier:
>Rest of Soulbrandt faggots

Scum of Earth tier:
>autismanon/4kigsfag
>Lucifer

>>160505313
sl 35
+4 weapon
Catacombs

>>160504623
> trenchcoat fedora owning a gun is good

>>160505467

He's german. You have to actually prove that you are not a psychotic maniac to own a gun there, other than in america where children shoot themselves in the face on a daily basis.

>>160505440

I'm glad you mentioned DSP, since he has probably done more to promote an awareness of Dark Souls than anyone else on that list, besides Pewdiepie.

>>160505398
People have been saying this since forever though. I'd much rather just go higher and not have to use nothing but a few raw infused weapons. Passworded and scaled down phantoms mean it doesn't matter what SL you invade at, I'd just much rather play a build I enjoy.

I don't even fucking care about the phantom spam, just remove the seed and invasions would be a lot better already.

>>160505526

2 didn't matter either because SL, DeS and 1 were the only ones where low level invading made a lot of sense because twinking was a huge thing.

>>160505440
Lobro vs Hodrick

who wins?

>>160505440
>Martyrsbrigade99/jblackmel
>not in 'whatsgoin'onguys' tier
ya blew it

>>160505580
Lobos. Dude's basically transcended Souls gameplay at this point.

>>160505398

In 250 hours of invading SL50 or lower I have encountered <15 ganksquads. In 100 hours at SL80 maybe 25.

I absolutely disagree with you. There is a big difference between <60 and >80.

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>>160504781
>How old is he?
No idea.

>>160505579

Because SM*

>>160505514
t. Eurocuck

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>>160505593
No respect whatsoever

>>160505632
Lobro, not Lobos.

It's Parry God vs Parry God.

>>160505638

Yeah nah, most people have phantoms with them. Not all intentionally have them to gank invaders but that doesn't mean they won't gang up on you when you invade.

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>>160505236
>>160504137

>valorheart WAR2 doesn't break greatshields
fug

>>160505751

What if BB is Aldrich's dream of the deep

>>160504836
Thanks a bunch!

Also, give me a minute, Sage fucked me up.

I'll be at Crucifixion Woods bonfire in 5.

>>160504137
>>160505236
>i just replace the save and then its all good?
Yea.

>>160505830
Thank you.

>>160505775

It took like 50% of my stamina at 40 end and havels +5

>implement an estus resource system
>distribute the estus and bone shards across the world and ramp up the difficulty to encourage the smart use of your resources
>give you access to infinite phantoms tho
what did memeazaki mean by this

>>160505830
>No one answers
>when someone do, they lie to fuck anon over

YAMERO

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6yqrPoG3OPI

how mad does this make you?

>>160505997
>tfw only played souls for the game design and multiplayer

not really. couldn't really care less about the lore.

Yo
Never played ds2 before, but watching these meme videos I'm seeing a lot of parrying without parrying tools
Are you telling me you could parry with everything in ds2? Why is this not in 3?

>>160505997
I actually laughed

>>160506189
many weapons when twohanded could parry.

Longsword and zwei for example had some parry frames.

DS3 has limited lefthanded parry weapons in comparison. Rapier and Parrying dagger are examples.

>>160505997
Stop posting fucking sexy dragons it confuses my dick

>>160506189

The parrying dagger is a joke in III, you'd have an easier time pulling off an UGS parry from II

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>>160505716
https://youtu.be/5T198rMCG18

>you will never rape Priscilla, pull her hair, and bite her all over while telling her she's a disgusting freak abomination

>>160506364
>ywn rape dragonsis

>>160506189
Daggers, rapiers and curved swords could parry in the left hand, almost every weapon type could parry when 2handed. All except spear, twinblades and lances, iirc.

It didn't return because From is retarded and ignores everything positive about 2 instead of expanding on it

>>160506189
>tfw cant super parry retards with my two handed murakumo anymore
rip

>>160506286
>Picture involves massive tittes and a fat ass, as well as a puffy vulva
>"confused"

Stop pretending you don't know exactly why that picture is arousing you shitcan

>>160506364
That's because she is pure.

>>160506428

I'd rather her turn me into a dragonoid against my will and dominate me

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>>160506362

Timeless.

>>160506563
Not when I'm done with her.

>>160506189
>>160506429
>Haha, yeah! DaS2 did parrying righ-

Monastery Scimitar

Argument over. Parrying on weapons in 2 was either hilariously broken or absolutely useless.

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>>160506487
Correction
You can't parry retards with your black murakumo

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Retard here. Anyone know if there's a list or something with some cool/fun pvp builds? I'm shit at coming up with anything and usually end up picking the wrong class and screwing up with levels.

>>160506604
>Instead of expanding it
Or improve it, you retard

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>>160505997
>Dark Soul 3 Dragon form on Priscilla
Nigga you que

>>160506572
same but make me a female dragonoid

>>160506604

Nerfed. Argument over.

But of course you'll defend how stagnant IIIs combat is, and how everyone fishes for a parry with an unzipped caestus

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>>160506428

>>160506632
>Expanding on a cancerous mechanic that either sees no use or ruins both PvE and PvP

DaS2 fags are deluded.

>>160506657
>Nerfed

It was un-nerfed, nigger. Learn to read.

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>>160506694

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>someone said something good about Dark Souls 2

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>>160504775
Saved.

>>160506694

It was nerfed, and it stayed nerfed.

>>160505997
>cycle of people setting themselves on fire to power up the world again
That was pretty accurate and well summarized.

>>160506730
Parrying ruined bosses like Champion Gundyr and Gwyn which would otherwise be genuinely great bosses and is a shitter crutch in PvP where if you land it once you remove 70%+ of their health for minor, inaccurate prediction skills. The fact that all this is tied to canned animations that stop being impressive after the second time only makes it worse.

But i'm more than willing to hear what you have to say in defense of it.

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>>160506780

>>160506804
t.R1Spammer
Improve could also be making it harder, numbnuts

>Parrying ruined bosses
And there's only a handful of bosses that can be parried, and none of the can be riposted.

>>160506910

>fextralife

>>160506364
>you'll never feel priscilla's soft, pink soles against your face, and then her toes sliding across your dick
>you'll never shove your entire arm inside her warm fluffy giant vagina, and lick the mucus that comes out as the strong smell of her body fills you
>she'll never sit on your face, drowning you in her vaginal mucus while her big, soft lips pressure against your head, then move to align her pink donutlike asshole against your mouth so you can eat it out
>you'll never feel her big, warm mouth completely envelop your dick

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>>160506958

>>160506910

>quoting fextralife

Anon...

>>160506928
>And there's only a handful of bosses that can be parried, and none of the can be riposted.
>None

Gundyr can be riposted. As can Gwyn. As can Sulyvahn.

But gj talking out of your ass : ^ )

>>160506910
>fextralife
What did he mean by this?

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>>160506989

>>160506989

I think it's incredibly funny that not a single person who edits that shit wiki understood that berserk reference, while they call the way of white corona destructo disc

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>>160506910
>

>>160507020
We were talking about DaS2 you retard

>>160505997

>talks about Lothric
>shows Lorian
>talks about the Lords of Cinder
>shows Gwyndolin

>>160507106
>Useful but not OP

Objectively false since you can still start parrying on reaction and have it connect. It's just as cancer as it was when people found out about it.

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>>160507082
>>160507067

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>>160507189
>Objectively
There's that word again

>>160507106
What? DaS2 shits on your argument even harder, since it allows you to deal even more damage than a fucking riposte would because they lie down on the ground for an eternity before they get up since apparently getting parried is like running a marathon and exhausts you.

Not that it's even relevant when DaS2 has some of the easiest bosses in the series aside from Fume Nigger.

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>>160507284

>>160506976
>you'll never put your entire self but head inside her then masturbate

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>>160507215

>>160507348
>Pursuer will literally stand still for around 2-3 seconds upon being parried

People can run to a ballista and have enough time to fire it before he even starts moving again. The boss isn't even hard to begin with. That's not even counting things like the Sinner being parryable which is absolutely retarded since its the first real difficulty spike in the game.

>>160507553
And other bosses will instantly recover.
And don't forget, we're talking about improving/expanding upon it. If you don't see why parries has a place in these games you may be legit autistic.

>>160507553
Sinner has mad recovery though, barely enough time to get 1 attack in
>Pursuer
Yeah he is retardedly easy, but he's like the Taurus from DS1; only absolute retards will die to that boss outside of enviromental kills(ledges)

>>160507706
The only thing parries do even remotely well is punish R1 mashing, of which there are already many counters to.

The negatives far outweigh the positives. They need to be much more skill oriented above basic timing which is something a retard can master in a day of playing. And bosses need to be exempt from them completely unless they are exceptionally difficult to pull off. Gwyn's massive flaming sword shouldn't be able to be brushed aside in the same sense the player cannot brush aside a fucking greataxe.

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[unf intensifies]

>>160507879
Quelaag best butt

>brigand daggers

this might just be from the burned out goggles after trying most """viable"""" weapons, but this weapons pretty great.

>>160507852
>of which there are already many counters to
Such as?
Trading? Good luck if you don't have the poise or the damage output.
Blocking? Bye bye stamina.
Rolling? Good luck with that agains stupidly fast weapons. Watch them easily roll-catch you as you run out of stamina.

>The negatives far outweigh the positives
What do you consider to be negative?
>They need to be much more skill oriented above basic timing which is something a retard can master in a day of playing
Anything in these games can be mastered in a day. If thats your problem with it, these games are not for you.

And YES! I agree, bosses should not be able to be parried imo. Gwyn became a pushover. But just because some bosses can be parried doesn't mean you should get rid of a mechanic that has been in the series since the fucking start.

>>160508085
>Trading

Is the whole reason people are bitching about the pickaxe

>Blocking

Estoc Turtle literally will get less than a rolls worth of stamina against a masher if he uses all his stamina attempting to do it.

>Rolling?

People are saying rolling is TOO good, and it is. Lightroll with bloodring is 100% unstoppable in Arena.

So yes. All these DO counter R1 mashing.

>>160505997
>vendrick
>great man

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HRq0amiNJ-E
what the fuck is this channel
who's his target audience

Where do I go to invade, this game is dead as fuck on PC.

>>160508486
So you want every pvp match to be r1 spamming, Estoc turtling, pickaxe trading, and rollspam shitfests? Because thats what you'd get, once player 1 has avoided player 2's spam, it's 2's turn to spam 1.

What's the one weapon everybody has complained about since the release of DaS3? I think it starts with D and ends with ark Sword. And what was it that was so stupid about it?

Parrying is an excellent addition to the game, it prevents non-stop r1 spam. The only thing i would do different is make bosses immune to it

>>160499996
Zullie has god tier content, but garbage tier consistency with uploading. If you're reading this, don't you have a million webms? Upload them.

>>160508696
It's clickbait.

You fell for it.

>>160508706
What's your SL?

>>160508723
>Pickaxe trading

Can be played around. As can rollspam, and Estoc Turtling. They just involve things other than spamming R1, which you would know if you weren't used to the retarded stunlocking of DaS2

You're as retarded as the people who pick up Halberds and don't use its ridiculously good R2 to rollcatch. The only reason the game has turned into R1 spamming is because people had to pick up Greataxes to counter caestus offhand niggery.

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so guys, i made this fun build, I just play with the old wolf curved sword and once I take damage I 2hand the crow talons and use the weaponart to get instant heals/dmg buff

I only have one problem: I need an edgelord armor combo. Any tips/hints?

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Going to run through Farron swamp real quick so I can get to Havel's ring, then clear out Cathedral.

Anybody in? Pass is dsg as always.

Why can the host summon 3 phantoms?
Why can the host summon a 4th via way of the blue?
Why does a second red never invade with you despite the host popping dried finger?
Why can a 4-5 man gank squad heal 35-42 times?
Why is estus completely unpunishable?
Why can you only carry 5 charms?
Why do they throw so slow?
Why do they have such a small aoe?
Why can you iframe through the charm cloud but you can't iframe through shit like bleed?
Why is the only difference between 30% load and 70% load a small bit of roll distance?

>>160509163
>Can be played around
As can parrying you double-nigger. Parry shitters is the fucking easiest type of player to defeat.

>The only reason the game has turned into R1 spamming is because people had to pick up Greataxes to counter caestus offhand niggery.
Are you rusing me? Because i feel like i'm being rused.

>>160508723
Dork Sword was always shit. I countered it, from the fucking get-go, with a Pickaxe. The Pickaxe has always had insane hyperarmor, and unlike DaS2, actually benefits from the Leo Ring so I just nonstop fucked them while they took 900+ damage in exchange for about 300.

If your answer to a good R1 on a weapon is to parry, you're not thinking hard enough. Even the GFS is easily destroyed by certain weapons, like bows or crossbows.

>>160508723
No one complains about it anymore. In fact, it stopped a few weeks after release when people realised it wasn't that big of a threat alone.

You'll find that most weapons complained about nowadays aren't R1 spammers, outside CS.
It's katanas, spears, GS, etc, none of which R1 spam

>>160509260
Let me start up my n64

I love healing on passive-reactive shitters in the arena that do nothing but backpedal.

>>160509317
>As can parrying you double-nigger. Parry shitters is the fucking easiest type of player to defeat.

Retards are easy to beat. Thanks for this tremendous revelation. Now try beating the guy who lands his parries 99% of the time. Oh wait. You can't without swapping to an unparriable weapon, at which point he whips out his fair and balanced le spear of infinite range and pokes you to death.

And at that point, literally your only option is to counter-poke-poke him to death with a fucking whip

>>160509342
>>160509347
So you're also saying we should just do away with parrying?

>>160509347
>katanas, GS, spears
>not r1 spam
You should tell that to 90% of players who use them then, even if they can't ever land that third lock they sure try every time.

>>160509442
No, why should we?

>sl 80 50 faith build
>arena
>dark resin buffed Followers Saber
>hit him once
>smacks me twice and most of my health is gone
>wind up and poise through a hit with sunlight spear
>dies instantly

Gotta admit, its funny watching people struggle for a win only for the win to be snatched

>>160509435
>Now try beating the guy who lands his parries 99% of the time
All weapons have unparriable attacks
>at which point he whips out his fair and balanced le spear of infinite range and pokes you to death.
At which point you start parrying yourself.

Or are you saying we should get rid of it because others are better than you at it?

>>160509507
That's what this shitty discussion is about

>>160509493
The most popular katana can't even R1R1. GS are for poise trading and spears for spacing.
What shitters do with those weapons is irrelevant

>>160509442
I think it's a bad mechanic personally. I don't know about doing away with it, but it needs to be changed, because sooner or later, against any weapon that it is possible against, it usually just turns the match into who gets a, one, singular, proper read on the enemy and 1shots them. Which is retarded. A loss should be a series of bad decisions and your enemy genuinely proving he is your better, not

>I almost had to accept I was bad at this game but then I managed to mash the parry button until it payed off and hornet ring'd u heheheh tough luck...kidd....*equips greatclub*

>>160509712
>I don't know about doing away with it, but it needs to be changed
Which is why i said improving/expanding upon it.

> it usually just turns the match into who gets a, one, singular, proper read on the enemy and 1shots them
Decrease critical damages, for example

>>160509515
Is there anything more satisfying combat wise than smacking someone with a SA SLS?

>>160509640
Shitters are 90% of the game though, they're going to compromise the majority of the fights and r1 spam is still horribly effective in PVE so they continue to do it when faced with an actual player. Regardless of effectiveness one would not be wrong to say that PVP almost always devolves into R1 spam.

>>160509260

Still there?

>>160509841
And therein lies the problem. You cannot reliably improve upon something that involves prediction ---> canned animation for big damage. Bloodborne tried it and it ended up being even fucking worse. I find it hilarious that Miyazaki seems to despise backstabs but every entry into the series he gargles parryfag cock a little bit harder.

>>160499034
Ňï-ģğ-əř

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>>160447426
Sorry I'm late anon, I haven't been keeping up with the threads over the past two days.
I have a lot of images of her if you still need some more too.

>>160509882
So? The same players are easily wrecked by parries.
If it happens in PvP, nothing can change it
The game shouldn't be balanced according the lowest skill players, this is what gave us 2 and 3.
I personally don't even want From to balance and make things conpetitive, only remove plain broken stuff, but whatever goes

How viable is a Dex/Int build in DaS3?

I always lose interest quickly after my first playthrough of Souls games then get the urge to come back and play a more interesting build. I like the look of that new scythe in the DLC and otherwise wouldn't mind using a weapon buff but last I remember Quality builds were just objectively OP and the weapon buff spells were pointless.

>>160510173
>You cannot reliably improve
You don't know that. Just because we can't agree/think of an improvement doesn't mean someone else can.
>involves prediction
As does everything else, and you should be rewarded for getting it right
>big damage
Make it not so big damage, and remove the god damn retarded Hornet ring

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>>160509712

Yeah, but punishing parry fishers is so satisfying though. People like to pretend like there is no skill involved in souls PvP but being unpredictable is a pretty important one.

>>160510629
Except it isn't and your subjective taste is unironically objectively shit and you're wrong.

>>160510813
Except it is and your subjective taste is unironically objectively shit and you're wrong.

>>160510769
But here is the pinch: He's a fucking shitter. He would have lost if he started swinging his weapon or not.

But imagine for a second if he landed one of those last parries and killed you because he had a hornet ring on. How fucking infuriated would you be? Would he have deserved it at all?

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Who here likes fighting 3 people at once.

[spoilers]I do[spoilers]

>>160510934
Yes. He landed it. If you land a ohko, like the other ones the game has, you earned it

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Finally played the DLC's from 2.

>Eleum Loyce
>Backtracking
>That stupid long snowstorm area where you can't see shit and where you keep getting fucked by infinite stupid goats
>Going through that stupid area just so you can fight 2 Aavas at the same time

>Sunken King
>That area with the thousand enemies and statues that spit petrify
>Sinh the PLEASE FOR FUCK'S SAKE JUST STAND STILL YOU FAGGOT DRAGON dragon

>Old iron king
>Fume Knight literally blue balling me by not going to phase 2.
>That stupid area with the hundred Samurai shits and Fire spitting Salamandra before Allone
>That stupid, retarded area filled with hundreds of enemies before the Smelter recolor
>Smelter Demon again

Sunken King and Ivory King DLC's were good and felt like proper Dark Souls areas. But honestly fuck the guy who decided to add a thousand enemies before each optional boss fight. I'm dissapointed since i expected better bosses and at the end of the day these DLC's made me wish i was playing 3 again.

Elanna and Ivory King were the best bosses from these DLC's and even Sinh ,despite flying around all the damn time, was entertaining.

>>160510629
How so? Aesthetic wise, I think it's really neat. They really got the repulsive feel of the rot in the DLC, I feel. The way they put the area together, I'm not a fan of.

>>160510629

Sure it's not DaS1 level... but it fits with DaS3.

>>160510629
Better than anything from 2, that's for sure.

>>160511183
You're complaining about designated co-op areas.
Those areas were literally designed for that.

They even give you like three NPC summons at the start of each area.

>>160511183
>But honestly fuck the guy who decided to add a thousand enemies before each optional boss fight.
The guy who decided to make it a co-op area. That's literally what it was designed for.
Remember those weird statues at the beginning of each path to the optional boss? That's where the signs of people who don't own the dlc shows up.

There's no excuse for the recolors though. And i rather enjoyed the ganksquad, it was pretty intense and they complimented eachother nicely

>>160505398
Co-op isnt ganking, you probably just shit at invading in general