/dsg/ - Demon's/Dark Souls General

People that point down after a solid/non-meta/fair duel: what's your story?

I'd just like to know what is going through your head when you do it. Of course you're entitled to use whatever gesture you want after a fight. Hell, if there were a "middle finger" gesture, I'd expect it to get frequent use; but for scummy wins and cheap tactics, not for genuinely enjoyable and good-natured fights.

Are you upset I'm not running a build identical to yours? Are you offended that I actually took away most of your health? Are you legitimately out to passive aggressively rub salt in a wound? Let me know, cause y'all fascinate me.

I won't even disclose the amount of salty mail I've gotten from people that BEAT me (Yes. They won, and felt the need to message me about it). But the content ranges from homophobic epithets, assaults on my integrity as a gamer, and of course unprovoked/unwanted advice on how to play the game "properly."

Seems no matter what weapon/build I run, I am a magnet for this kind of behavior.

And no, my username isn't ISISnazi420blazeit (that was taken unfortunately).

So tell me: what's the real story?

>>160535968
Who or what is the guy in the OP picture?

I hope they add a mother's mask that gives you 1% more health.

>>160535769
>>160535874
Is it fun?
>>160536085
The legendary "Some Guy"
He's on the cover of Das2 SOTFS

>>160536075
It's.... just a taunt. There's no deeper meaning. People BM in literally any competitive environment. Pro StarCraft players will drop mules to confirm a victory, FPS players teabag, etc. most of the time it isn't even meant as disrespect, more of a cocky flourish or victory celebration. This post feels so unnecessary lol there's no need to pathologize bad manners.
Harassment messages are a different deal entirely and the biggest reason I don't play anything competitive on PC anymore; some people can take it, personally I find it too draining.

>>160536075

The real story is ur a faget

I'm not even sure why I bother playing this game anymore. The majority of the people I lose to aren't even winning base off of skill, but just blind parries and exploitations of gameplay mechanics. I had one person I fought consistently press L2 during the entire fight looking to get a parry while I hit him with claymore combos. He finally got one after about fifty fucking attempts and low and behold 2/3 of my health was now gone. I then decided to go for a 1HR2 to try to finish off the small amount of health he had left, but he apparently had a little more than I thought and just poised through my hit and BSed me. The entire fight the only two "hits" he got in on me was a lucky parry and a poise BS, and he proper bows at the end like he won by some kind of skill. I'm starting to see more and more each and every day why Claire does what he does.

>invading in archives
>some CCS shitter re-summons his buddy constantly
>wreck them two times in a row, killing his buddy at least 3 times
>his sign ain't passworded
>mfw

>>160535968
>soulsborne

Which had more humanoid bosses? Dark Souls 2 or 3?

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>>160536148
kind of

>>160536073

I've invaded a lot SL40-70, and have barely come across any ganks.

>>160536231
How fucking shit can you be HAHHAHAAAAH

he should have pointed down on your ass dumb motherfucker

>>160536231
What does t. Claire do?

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>>160536246
fuck, forgot webm

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ahn

What would give me more item discovery?
having two Hollow Dark Sword +10's in both hands, or a Hollow Dark Souls +10 and a Crystal Sage's Rapier equipped?

I have 99 Luck btw.

>>160536148

More consistent level lengths and checkpointing.
Focus on combat that's somewhere between Dark Souls 1 and 3 in terms of speed.
Magic makes the game super easy to cheese so I'd advise you don't start as a caster class.
Try to keep your inventory as clean as possible because of >>160535769
Stonefang Tunnel is kinda shit but you can find a lot of upgrade stones there
Ignore World Tendency until after you're done with the game, maybe 2 or so playthroughs.
Equip weight under 50% gives you fastroll.
Bleed is given by any weapon with slash type damage, it works like Poison does in Dark Souls 1.

Reposted since I missed the new thread.

>>160536272
DS2, but it also had twice the number of bosses overall DS3 had.

>>160536148
>"Some Guy" on the cover of Das2 SOTFS
Yeah, I know that much. Has no one figured out what he's supposed to be?

>>160536339
is better than him

>>160535968
>tfw if stone ring was removed ds2 pvp would be the best

The solution to the curse is unbirthing into Gwynevere's sunny pussy

>>160536085
a Forlorn
Was an Invader added in DaS2 SOTFS.

Its k if you didn't know. Its nothing worth checking.

>>160536447
Its the dark spirit forlorn.

>>160536447
some lorefag probably figured out he was velka all along

>>160536447
NPC invader called the forlorn or something.

>>160536498
It would still look and feel like shit unfortunately.

>>160536085
i thought it was a forlorn

>>160536498
>extra 20 poise damage

>in a game where daggers can do 90

It's not even good

i wish scythes had an immense amount of poise break
they are too easy to HA through with greatswords

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>>160536582

>>160536325
>>160536339
>>160536450
Look at your own posts before you post something as fucking stupid as that.
Sure, I'm being an asshole to you, but I'm not being an asshole to other people. Maybe if you had one fucking ounce of a brain, you'd be able to determine why. Being a fucking unlikable shit won't get you anywhere in life. And based on the way you react to things, and your superiority complex, you're more than just a fucking unlikable shit, you're literally lower than the lowest lifeform on this planet that still has a brain to operate. I don't need your help, because I've got other people who are actually respectable humans beings that would be willing to help. Lucifer is a better person than you, even if he has his quirks. He doesn't go all out and start hating on everyone who calls him a faggot, and he tries to respond in politeness to anyone who fucking helps. You're the fucking asshole here, on a larger scale than I or anyone else.
Get fucked, kid.

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>>160536085
Forlorn is a grill

>>160536658
>they are too easy to HA through with greatswords
That's true of almost every weapon class
FUCK greatswords, they need to get the halberd treatment and have their poise health mod severely nerfed

>>160536645
rapier has 10 poise break, with stone ring (+30) a single hit can break 40 poise (medium armor) and 2 hits (80) can break heavy armor poise, its insane

>>160536429
bump. help a nigga farm

>>160536805
nah, greatswords are a good counter for fast spammy shit and need to stay this way
but they need to lose a trade against any medium weapon

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>>160536158
>Harassment messages are a different deal entirely and the biggest reason I don't play anything competitive on PC anymore; some people can take it, personally I find it too draining.

Really? I love that shit. Too bad there isn't global text chat in DaS3

>>160536805
Greatswords are good, but I at least enjoy playing against them and trying to counter them. With success by the way.

I've played the Souls games for a while now and it usually fizzles out (in context of co-op PVE) around the 130-175 soul level range.

The majority of fun I have in this game is grinding out mass amounts of souls, getting a single level for it, and doing it again. I enjoy running extra boss fights, farming the Gertrude Knights before going to next NG, and gaining tons of materials and soul levels.

What sucks is I rarely ever see any summon signs after about SL225 or so. I want to grind all the way through NG+9 and beat it as many times as I can but sometimes I just need a little help.

To those of you in the same boat as me, you 225+ rank folks, keep putting those summon signs down!

Also, if any of you have discord or something, I have zero friends who play the Souls series. I have a great group who plays BF1 and other shooters but none on the DS series so I am looking for a crew to run with.

(I play on PC)

>>160536805
don't post this game here

god it looks so fucking ugly

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>>160536539
>>160536569
>>160536582
>>160536632
Oh. Never recognized him with his glowing red armor. I also didn't recognize the sword in pic related until I asked about it here.DS2 sure wasn't my favourite soulsgame

>>160536896
>responding to pasta

>>160536272
Dark Souls 2:
>Pursuer
>Dragonrider
>Twin Dragonriders (2)
>Old Dragonslayer
>Sentinels (3)
>Lost Sinner
>Smelter
>Blue Smelter
>Prowling Magus
>Looking Glass Knight
>Velstadt
>Vendrick
>Skeleton Lords
>Darklurker
>Throne Watcher/Defender
>Nashandra
>Elana
>Varg, Cerah, Graverobber (3)
>Fume Knight
>Alonne
>Ivory King
So that's 26 if you count every single humanoid, but there are 20 humanoid boss encounters out of 41 bosses.
Dark Souls 3:
>Iudex Gundyr
>Champion Gundyr
>Watchers
>Deacons
>Pontiff
>Yhorm
>Dancer
>Dragonslayer Armor
>Lothric/Lorian
>Nameless King
>Soul of Cinder
>Champion Gravetender
>Friede/Ariandel
15 humanoid bosses, 13 humanoid boss encounters out of 21 bosses.

>>160536876

Covetous Gold Serpent Ring+2, Symbol of Avarice, Crystal Sage Rapier, Rusted Gold/Silver Coins.

That's what you should use, and get 400+ discovery easily.

>>160536862
That's not how poise works.
Stone ring does not add 30 base poise damage. That would be insane.

Rapiers (except estoc) actually do some of the least poise damage in the game, a paltry 35 per 1hr1.
Stone ring increases that to 65. Or 55.
The average heavy armor wearer swinging a HA weapon has effectively 240 poise.

Educate yourself
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1-iCrOdAGp3uQ9I0VgQYU2Ug2d4w2PbQZhBnobLakaMs/pubhtml

>>160536429
this thread moves so fast, bumpm help

>>160536272
it doesn't even matter
the problem of ds2's humanoids is that they are all samey as fuck

>>160536272
The problem wasn't 'humanoid' bosses. That's just a fucking meme. DaS2 bosses are uninspired as fuck, regardless of what they were.

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>>160536075
Heh, I saw this post on reddit earlier as I was trying to find a gif of the Point Down emote.

>>160537180
>Educate yourself
>reddit science

Reminder we only have 11 wikis due to reddit's wiki war.

>>160537189
crystal meth on both veins

>>160537126
>yfw people praise das3's bosses but shit on das2's for being oversized humanoids, even though 3 has a higher ratio of humanoid bosses

>>160537358
That post was deleted as well. However it will continue to live on as glorious pasta.

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Let's continue the parry tool discussion, shall we?

https://www.reddit.com/r/darksouls3/comments/4lfkus/i_made_a_visualized_spreadsheet_of_parry_tool/?st=ivoblswc&sh=7bf465c9
https://www.reddit.com/r/darksouls3/comments/4h537m/all_parrying_tools_frame_data_tldw_inside/?st=ivobmoc0&sh=65fde78e

If anyone's got some better sources or knowledge from experience, I'd appreciate it. I'm especially interested in learning how to parry with a lothric knight shield and the rapier for their dual uses.

>>160537395
>ds2 apologists

>>160537395
The hate for humanoid bosses is absurd to begin with. Non-humanoid bosses are almost never good.

>>160537395
people shit on ds2 bosses because they are bad
all humanoids in ds2 are samey as shit, in ds3 they use completely different tactics and movesets

>>160537538
>miyazakidrones

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>>160537385

>>160537395
Are you being a tricky trickster or are you actually are you actually too dumb to see why this doesn't work

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>>160537380
>due to reddit's wiki war.
tell me more

>>160536429
bumnp

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>>160537675

>>160536539
I'd like his greatsword to come back, neat gimmick
but it won't now that the onyx GS exists

>>160537692
>not the boromir page

>>160537380

Show me all of the other science then.
Oh, there is none?
heh

>>160535968
>No edition
>Doesn't link to the last thread
Kill yourself OP

>>160497186
>>160497186
>>160497186
>>160497186

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>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EoyRcGkDnJo
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D3Wa4bx6t-A
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HQLVeCzZT6s
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ICHQPOYz2c

>This guy gets to actually speak on behalf of the Souls community

>>160537848
>neat gimmick
More like a gimmick that made it useless outside of arena.

so when you disconnect directly upon invading, is that the netcode shitting up, or the host alt+f4ing?

>>160537848
His greatsword was a paddle to end all paddles.

>>160537949
The only thing worse than no information is bad information. Any "soulscience" coming from reddit is not trustworthy at all since they'll simply claim they ripped from the game files just to shove a new page in their favorite wiki.

Thankfully it's not as bad as it was in ds2's time because fextra paid to be on google results.

>>160538150
Without any messages? That's the host dying almost immediately after you connect to him, so when you enter his world his body has already despawned. Fade to black, fade to your own loading screen, back in your own world.

>>160538150
Usually the netcode.
Most of times the host disconnected for other reason while you were in the loading screen

>>160537525
I believe the fist weapon recovery matches parry shield recovery now, making parry shields a viable alternative to fist weapons. The only benefit they have over parry shields is the weight.

I don't know for sure though. My source is some posts I've seen here and Reddit, but I haven't seen any actual frame data. It feels the same to me in-game as well.

If you're learning to parry the most reliable way is to use shit with early startup, it's way more important than more frames or whatever. If you're already decent at parrying with those then it won't take too long to adjust to medium shield/rapier, but every parry will be more risky and slightly more difficult.

>>160538005
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EoyRcGkDnJo
This triggers me so much.
t. German

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Any jolly cooperators here tonight?

>>160537852
The what now?

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>hiding behind the cathedral with Vilhelm during invasions just to see how hosts cope with doing at least something on their own
>60% of them are dying
>rest burn through so much flasks i can starve them to death
Best fucking scrub smasher in series.
Most hilarious thing is that he's completely fair unlike DS2 invaders with 5k hp and animation cancels, just forces 1vs1.

>>160538019
not like random invasions were a thing in that game anyway
and I was thinking of the bleed, though the scythe was better for that

>>160538198

Except most if not all science came from Reddit so far and was accurate as fuck?
Do you think reddit is only the people who make the shitty wiki, that reddit is made of 3 people? Dude.

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>FINALLY get the motivation to start a new character
>Spend a lot of time creating the face
>Pressing "Similar Face" in character creation overwrites everything else you did to the face
>You can't just go back

FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFUUUUUUUUUUCK!!!!!!!
I guess i'll drop the game for another 3 months

>>160538351
http://darksouls2.wiki.fextralife.com/Boromir

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>>160538328
Whats so weird about him is that he's actually pretty charismatic and well spoken, but at the same time his whole shtick is extremely cringeworthy.

He's an anomaly.

>>160538190
it looked like a greatsword sized dark sword, something a darkwraith could have used

>>160537525
>not showing recovery frames
What a useless image.

>>160538347
>No exposed skin around the arms
Nah

>tfw attemping a no-summon challenge run
Wish me luck, guys.

>>160538536
Yeah when he was swimming in new londo maybe.

>>160536274
reminds me of https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KnxgQMSsc8c

>>160538591
>likes exposed elbows

what's wrong with you?

>>160538407
the greatsword was better both at doing damage and at bleeding
it got a good scaling bonus when infused with bleed that made it better than dark or uninfused

great weapon

>>160538413
>redditspeak
>vouching for reddit

Fuck off with your "science", if there's no proof other than "lmao I took from the game files" then it's bullshit.

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>>160538591
I see what you did there anon.

I remember you.

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>>160535968
Trapfu bestfu

>>>/r/14962600

>>160538626
You need any help? just set the pass to dsg name the boss

PC FC pls.

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>>160538825
i wish zullie was my wife

>>160536954
>(I play on PC)
Reckon that's your problem. PS4 is more active and goes up higher in my experience. I like being able to CE together builds and shit on PC, but I also like going into retarded NG cycles to grab additional Siegbrau's and shit. I've seen a lot more activity coop and otherwise at high rangers on PS4. The two communities have a different feel for sure.Arena is the same shit regardless though.

>>160538674
the scythe could bleed people in one 2hR2 though

>>160538697

>redditspeak
Where exactly?
Poise charts and mechanics, parry frame data and shit like that are proven by videos and fucking trying out poise yourself. You are just a kid who goes for the le reddit is bad meme because someone on 4chan said so, yet most of what you know about the series' mechanics was first posted on there.

>>160538378
Nothing is better than having a host seed you early, fucking off through the level and chilling at Villhelm. Most of them don't even make it and those that do often don't realize their phantoms can't do shit - It's fucking great. We need more shit like this, it's amazing to see some idiot with 3 phantoms panic and get upset at his phantoms as they stand around looking at each other.

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>>160539325
I really hope that the second DLC will be as fun to invade and will have virtually no fog walls as well. Ariandel is one of the best areas for invasions in the entire franchise, it's up there with DS1 Catacombs and BB's Research Hall.

If I lose a lot in the arena will I lose my badge? I'm trying out new weapons and getting BTFO

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>>160538378

Same, it baffles me how many people can't take on Vilhelm in a 1v1, it's insane.

Makes me wonder How Bloodborne and Demon's Souls would've been if killing Crowsteel, BP Satsuki or Old King Doran was mandatory for progression through a level, and not optional.

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Anyone on ps4 up for transferring some items? I'll be sure to do the same.
Pass is dsg on the high wall.

>>160539597
>ever finding invasions in Research Hall

If BB didn't have the gimped bell maiden mechanic that truly would have been the best area to invade in the series. In my experience though 90% of the hosts were only summoning phantoms at the boss so you never really got a chance for any shenanigans.

>>160539679
Yeah I went from gold to silver a few days ago then to gold again very quick.

>>160539597
Agreed. The only thing that comes close in the base game imo is the Cathedral of the Deep - The DLC took that and increased it exponentially, it's fantastic. People rag on the DLC for being short and shit, and that's true, but the area is absolutely fantastic and I'm going to be upset if the next DLC doesn't continue the trend.

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>>160539693
>PS4

>>160537180
fuck that shit,, ill just keep getting staggered by a rapier in my alonne captain armor

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>>160539828
It was fairly active when DLC was just released.
Fuck bell maiden mechanic tho.

>>160539951
At least I'm not getting cursed.

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Is Way of White Corona good with the patch?

>>160540032

He's just farming for (You)'s, lad.

>>160537395
>ds2
>most bosses are shit

>ds3
>most bosses are decent

>>160540140
it still does half the damage of a farron dart, so no

>>160540140
Someone said that they buffed the damage from 50 to 70
And until they make it just pass through walls, no

>>160540032
>At least I'm not getting cursed.
You're getting cursed

>>160540140
No it still does absolute shit damage for the cast speed and FP that it costs.

>>160540298
>>160540316
>>160540329
Damn I was really hoping From made it good.

>>160539597
>>160539904
>unironically endorsing HUGE invasion zones
Ever invaded in Crucifixion Woods/Farron Keep? Finding the host is fucking impossible, usually they die somewhere on their own or you waste 10 minutes looking for them and then they challenge the boss.

Is there any way to check my KD ratio in Arena?

>>160536429
bump

Playing dark souls prepare to die edition. Should i go dex or str?

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>>160540520
>KD ratio

>>160540520
>He hasn't bought the season pass

>>160540491
>Ever invaded in Crucifixion Woods/Farron Keep?
Yes, i'm invading there a lot and it's a fuckload of fun. Occasional hide-and-seek doesn't spoil it.

>>160540491
>Ever invaded in Crucifixion Woods/Farron Keep?
Yes, it's great.

>>160540584
There's no such thing as STR or DEX in DaS1, unless you're a filthy INT/FTH faggot.

You always go 27/40.

>>160540520
The face of the Souls audience now

*teleports behind you*
*curses you into one thousand pieces*
Pssshhh

>>160540491
Not him, but literally all I do nowadays is invade in Farron Keep, finding the host there is easy as fuck because everyone thinks Poison doesn't do shit so they leave it and let me see their health bar from across the entire map. If they aren't poisoned, then they obviously aren't in an area with poison, so that narrows your options considerably. Could be past the gate, could be up in Farron Tower, could be near the first bonfire. And you can narrow those choices down to by checking which bonfire's they have kindled and which of the lights they have put out so far.
>>160540625
>Occasional hide-and-seek doesn't spoil it.
Those are fun as shit, as long as you are the one doing the hiding.

>>160540775
*it was a hologram*

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>>160540520
>KD ratio

>>160540491
I wished they didn't cut the Unveil Spirit Amethyst.

>>160540741
there is a str build in DaS1, the japstabber build

>>160540520
You could've stopped this /dsg/

>>160540854
How do I check how many dudes i've killed (killdude)

>>160540520
Keep track of it yourself if you're autistic enough to care

>>160540584
When you're 2-handing, your STR is effective 1.5x higher, so with 27 STR you effectively have 40 while 2h. If you want a build that can pretty much use everything then go 27/40. It's a pretty solid build for a first playthrough.

>>160540741
Pure DEX or STR is definitely a thing in DaS1. Why would you go 27/40 for Chaos Blade, or Great Club.

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>>160540841
>playing alone against 3 invaders there with obscuring ring

>>160540975
>one of the invaders starts assassinating the other invaders
>that invader is me

>>160540741
wrong

STR
http://mmdks.com/8fib
DEX
http://mmdks.com/8fic

>>160540973
>When you're 2-handing, your STR is effective 1.5x higher, so with 27 STR you effectively have 40 while 2h. If you want a build that can pretty much use everything then go 27/40. It's a pretty solid build for a first playthrough.
Same applies to DaS3 btw.

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>>160540584
You go quality.

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>>160538481
>Drops Frequency
>Pursuer 100%

>>160540975
This is more what I meant.
>get obscuring ring
>get slumbering dragoncrest
>get some stacks of poison moss
>finally, a greatbow
>invade

Run around lining up WA potshots on ganksquads, by the time they've come looking for you you have moved down the level somewhere else, probably using poison moss to hide your healthbar. Just keep doing this all the way through the level as they try to fight mobs. By the end just ambush them near the darkwraiths or the big crystal lizard. They will be fighting you with mobs, pissed off, probably poisoned, and also probably out of estus. It's fucking magical.

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What's your Soulsborne weaponfu?

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>>160541352
On low levels you can just use crossbows with lighting bolts.

>>160541412
that's a serpent

>>160536429
bump

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Why is there a several ton giant iron ball on the top of some stairs in the Undead Asylum?
How does some emaciated hollow push it down?

>>160541412
shame that thing was the worst curved gs

>>160541579
It's an epic reference to Cale the Cartographer

>>160538481
Can you screencap? I'm on the phone right now and fextralife has some real cancerous popup ad shit.

>>160540159
The Laughing Moomins man has been at it gor at least 3 years.

>>160541482
if you already have 99 luck, hollow weapons aren't going to help you with item discovery. 2 CSR, symbol of avarice and golden coin. but if you're farming silver knights, your best bet is to make a pure str build with hornet ring. overkilling them seems to positively affect droprate

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>valorheart requires to really get good
>but also makes you damn near invincible if you're playing correctly

>>160541447
This also works in the poison swamp

t. someone who witnessed it on a poor, poor red who came across DEUS VULT

>>160541829
>valorheart requires to really get good
wait for attacks and press r1 then jump attack
no
>but also makes you damn near invincible if you're playing correctly
except for all the times the block frames just don't work

>>160541829
t. someone who's never used it

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>>160541447
Not nearly as fun sneaking around the level in Farrons though, lining up shots on hosts in Fallen Knights who only see you as an invisible arrow-machine who they can never ever find. They usually take a long time but it's worth every second knowing the host is probably in constant fear of being shot at from any given direction.
Also, I did use to use Dragonslayer GA using the respective greatbow, the damage is pretty terrible at such low SL. Millwood greatbow WA with millwood or onislayer is way more worth it.
Webm related, this hunt took about 15 minutes. The WA works without FP to, for some reason.

>>160541829
>>valorheart requires to really get good
lmao

Anyone got a list of weapons/shields with equip effects?

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>it's a man-serpent summoner beckons Havel episode
really love this episode

What is your guys thoughts on friede's scythe for pvp?

I used to only use scythes in dark souls, but didn't touch them in 2, and this one seems good, but I just can't seem to make it work well.

Thinking of trying valorheart next.

Can I parry with Augur of Ebrietas?

>>160542942
No, it's literally just a spell.

>>160542942
yes
and backstab too

>>160542924
The spins are parryable

>>160542924
Its quite bad to be honest. Fun to use against people who don't know its easily parried, and the tracking is fucking retarded.

Other than that, if you use it against someone gud, they are going to trash you.

>>160543283
i don't fucking understand what they were thinking with ds2-tier tracking and limited aiming in ds3
remove that shit and it will become way more usable

>>160542924
great against noobs, okay against the rest.
using the spinny weapon art against anything with perseverance or a ton of HA is practically suicide

>claymore and hollowslayer have the same sheath
What did they mean by this?

>>160543351
Too lazy to make any new sheath assets, just port DaS1 ones.

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So in the DLC of DS3 this is in the back of the room with the Sister fight.
Any idea if it's the fluffy tail bitch from DS1?

>>160542435

w-where is mister Havel going

>>160543565
it's mytha from das2

>>160543685
What's the lore that would even put her in the painted world?

Or are you pulling my leg?

>>160543591
"Africa."

"And then?"

"Wherever the wind blows."

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>>160536429
>tfw the money spent on pre-rendered cutscenes will never go to finishing the game

>Black Bow of Pharis is quite literally a retextured Longbow
What did they mean by this?

>>160541829
a lot of the valorheart players ive seen are the most reactive players out there. just waiting 5 minutes for an opening then jump attacking and running away. this one guy was so annoying the fight club just dogpiled him

>>160542135

Care to share your complete build? I want to do some obscuring ring Greatbow invading too, but I'm not sure where I should go for the best results. SL40 Farron Keep? SL45 Catacombs? SL70 DLC?

>using fake stats in DaS1
>in 2016

how much of a retard degenerate do you need to be

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Man once you get used to it, this thing is pretty sweet.

>>160543762
yeah i'm pulling your leg
i was trying to find a good way to troll you with deepest lore but I couldn't think of one

>>160537351
The executioner owned. Mirror Knight was a cool idea. The DLC bosses were all neat. But yeah, besides those, it was a step down in boss design.

>>160543970
Who are you quoting?

>>160544264
Ah.
I kind of figured DS2 is just disconnected from it all in general.

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I want to try to make a Penetrator cosplay.. Keyword being try.

What is the longest straight sword in the game? And does it have pokes?

Just lost 50k souls because some asshole invaded me in boreal and used some bullshit item to aggro everything on me

>>160544340
ur mom

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>>160539693
Soooooo anyone up for that transfer on ps4?

>>160543962
SL35
24 Vig
17 End
15 Vit
22 str
12 dex

Slumbering Dragoncrest so you can't be heard
Obscuring so you can't be seen
Prisoner's Chain and Knights Ring for stat boosts
Millwood Greatbow +3 and Millwood Battleaxe +6

Old sage blindfold + dragonscale armor + leonhard gauntlets + nameless knight leggings
Big open areas like Farrons are the best because while the order the host does objectives is linear (the 3 candles) the entire area is just a big fucking room, so you can poison moss your way through the swamp right to the third candle area and beyond do get ahead of your prey, or to the first to get behind. I also did a video on it, you can see how hard it is for people to find you if you know the area enough.

>>160544476
>longest

Gotthard's, Lothric's, Dark, and Irithyll, in that order.

>>160544629
No one plays on PS4, sorry hank

>>160544476
Lothic knight ss, yes.

demons souls fc when

>>160544081
Is R1 L1 R1 a true combo? I know R1 L1 R2 isn't anymore.

>>160544656
Fuck, what is the longest, normal looking one?
Or at least kind of close to Penetrating sword?

>>160544762
>attack block attack being a true combo
doubtful

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Why do people want to become dragons so badly

>>160544784
Lothric Knight
Could always use a GS though
Judgement, perhaps

>>160544858
Fug, I meant L2.

>invade dlc
>host and phantom(s) at first snowfield bonfire, refusing to engage
>pop seed
>cut bridge, fuck off to the settlement
>now standing at the top of the slip n slide staring at each other refusing to come down
Good thing you can run past everything in these games or seeds might've been a problem.

>>160544870
Only literal retards want that

>>160544909
>>160544735
Thanks

Tired of dex shit.

Want to hyper armor and smash some kid in the face.

What is the best str weapon currently?

>>160545017

Are you calling Hawkwood a retard?

>>160544938
Yes.

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>>160538930
CHAOS

>>160545059
greatswords

great club if you really hate dex

>>160545090
Yes.

>>160545059
Heavy Carthus Curved Sword

>>160544870
i fought a guy in pontiff arena yesterday who was a dragon with a bunch of weapons. Killed him 3 times.
I checked his profile like I usually autistically do, and he had 700 hours in DaSIII.
Now this wasn't what scared me, since if I put 700 hours in this game I'd get bored and fight as a dragon to, and he was obviously just dicking around. He also had 2000 hours in Dark Souls I, but that didn't scare me either. What scared me was that his account was only two years old.

>>160545059
The Soldering Iron

>>160545090
Yes.

>>160545090
easily

>>160545059
str weapons aren't even the kings of HA though - grab a greatsword

>>160545090
Coniptions of the brain

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>>160545059

Great Club easily, Quakestone GH second.

>>160542942
You can, although that was not one of its abilities in the base game.

>>160545059
I'm not sure, but I've won my last 25 matches in a row with the dlc onyx blade.

Really any greatsword will do though. But the onyx blade makes my dick fucking rock hard.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t2ysCK-Ki0c

Made my first trolling video, thoughts?

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>really want to play DeS
>not backwards compatible
>sony won't make a digital version available
>From won't remaster or rerelease it
>don't have a ps3
>cant play it through ps now without the whole game being in moonrunes and massive input lag

>>160545370
Real men use the Great Wooden Hammer.
Only chumps use the """"""""Great"""""""" Club.

>>160545520
Aren't Piss3s pretty cheap nowadays?

>>160544645

I see. No Hawk Ring though? Or is that not as valuable as the Knight's ring?

And what about RTSR + Morion Blade? Since you won't be near enemies anyway.

Do you use it in the Catacombs as well, or do you think SL35 is too low for that?

>>160545404
This, the onyx blade is fucking crazy with a pyro build and using dark clutch ring.

I'm starting to think the lore isn't deep at all.

>>160545602
still ~150$ used

>>160537985
/dsg/ has never had editions until one faggot started enforcing them less than a month ago you fucking meme

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aw hell yeah

>>160545778
pretty sure you could get one+des for ~120 on ebay. or just use a computer, so you can actually find people

>tfw the host finally moves, gets his phantom plunge attacked and then alt+f4's
>check his profile
>Don't heal, just die honorable
>GitGudFgtt
>The Sunbro Helpers
PC souls was a mistake.

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What's the edgiest weapon is DS?

>>160545404
>str weapon

>>160545962
2kat obviously

>>160545831
wat build

>>160536075
I am depressed irl and I wish, if only for a transient moment too small to even be measured in the grand scheme of time, to edge a tiny portion of my suffering on a stranger, to whom I have no quarrel or consequence with.

tl;dr If you get down-pointed, that means you got beaten by a down-pointing faggot. Git gud, or stay mad.

>>160545971
has a higher str requirement than dex.

>>160545629
Greatbows have pretty dam good range as it is, with proper positioning it shouldn't needed.
Going Hypermode could be useful but I've never liked being that close to death. It's certainly possible, but most of my fights end with using the axe to take down weak estus-less ganksquads, so you will need to heal there.
I can imagine the build being useful somewhere in the catacombs but only in specific spots, unlike Farrons where you can be anywhere at any given time. Catacombs would be a bit linear.
Here is the video anyways, I've been meaning to shill this for a while now. You can see some of the preferred ambush spots, but since I only did recordings for a single day I didn't get to show off some of the other good spots, such as camping the ladder for easy hits or sitting up near the corvians to get a view of the swamp next to it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zBD8UDMvQag

>>160545818
>/dsg/ has never had editions
>a month ago
your new is showing. lerk moar

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>>160545818
>less than a month ago

>>160545962
Wasabi & Sashimi.

>>160546131
So does Chaos Blade. Doesn't mean shit

>>160546131
it's a pyromancer weapon, you dolt. and generally, when people say "str weapons" or "dex weapons" they mean "slow heavy weapons" or "fast light weapons", with greatsword and hallies midding. "str weapons" are ugs, gh and ga and gshields, if you're into that sort of thing

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>>160545962
>>160546017
>>160546269

https://youtu.be/MZO4PzJ78K4

>>160545449
>DaS1
What year is this?

>>160546394
>implying a katana can't be a str weapon

idiot

What do you intend to use for armor?

>>160546623
>Implying it can
Retard.

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>>160546628
Vilhelm's

>>160546691
>you need speed and agility to do more damage with per swing a blade

hahaha

no

>>160546017
>>160546269
>Everyone says dual katanas
>No one is mentioning Friede's Edgelord Scythe.

>>160546821
If it had her decapitate move, sure

>>160546813
What the fuck do you even mean fucking retard.
Greatswords aren't str weapons. End of story. Fuck off.

>>160546628
Shoot i meant to said this too >>160544476

>>160546887
>i'm wrong so I'll take you to fuck off

fine, I'll fuck off with my victory mr. agility makes you swing a katana harder

>>160545962
Bloodlust.
Or Hiltless. Literally just edge and you cut yourself every time you use it.

>>160546980
Nice projection retard. Now try to make any sense oh how GS are str weapons in this game.
OH wait, you can't.
Glad we could make you retard brain understand that.

>>160546806
that's a gigantic fucking head
for me

>>160546821
Animu/=edgy
The actual edgiest weapon is Bloodlust
>katana
Check
>bleed
Check
>cut self
Check
>edgy name
Check
>acquired by edgelords
Check

>>160544629
Tried to help last night but fell asleep waiting for a response

>>160547046
>great axes
>str
>great hammers
>str
>great swords
>str

I win again, moron.

>>160547072
isn't the blade made out of a fucking bone?
edgiest weapon in the franchise, no doubt

>>160547138
Wrong again.

Fuck off.

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Rate this dude.

>>160546041

Its unoptimized atm, i still plan to to rosaria when i feel like it, im just too busy playing
https://mugenmonkey.com/darksouls3/117991

>>160547207
Cathedral Knight looks bad on everyone, try again
Gloves don't match anyways

>>160547197
>I don't have any counter argument so I'll tell you you're wrong

Damn son, you're fucking stupid.

>>160547207
Fatfuck/10

>>160540202

>ds3
>most bosses are decent
wew

>>160547320
>I don't know what str weapon is so I must be right
Damn retard, kys

>>160547207
you need to be anorexic to make the cathedral knight chest look somewhat decent

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Is 328 pure physical AR bad on a spear at SL100?

Spears seem kind of weak in Das3 compared to the others

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Rate my build for helping people defeat Soul of Cinder.
1/2

>>160547196
Don't know but I wouldn't be surprised if it was
>>160547207
clipping trashcan/10
I'm afraid it's terminal
>>160547138
Greatswords are mid-range I'm speed, damage and reach. Is the Great Scythe also a strength weapon?

DETAILING

>Trying to do all quests possible in a single playthough of DS3.
Jesus tittyfucking christ there are so many random failure triggers all over the place.

>>160547445
>can't define a str weapon
>but its not a str weapon

Nope, you're still retarded.

>>160546138

Hmm, thanks for the info.

I was thinking of dropping Vig to 22, End to 15, keeping Vit at base and wearing lighter armour, having a dagger as back-up and then increase Strength to 30 (35 with Knight's Ring). What do you think?

I just realized RTSR + Morion Blade is not that viable since using a Bloodlust or whatever to lower your HP will show make your location pop up to them.

>>160547665
kys retard.

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>>160547545
2/2
Also I use Carthus Rouge.

Anyone else got a sudden invalid data?

Jesus all I did was some souls, stop being so fucking nazi fromsoftware.

>>160547614
PYROMANCY

>>160547713
you sure showed him

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muh rank points ;__>;

>>160547763
I'm not his(Your) mother, don't need to teach him (You)shit.
Still, GS aren't STR weapons.

>>160547713
Now you just look pathetic anon.

>>160547285
>>160547341
>>160547450
>>160547546
Thanks I'll kms now.

>>160547778
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH
That final was amazing.
>Implying he is doing for rank points.

>>160547691
You could definitely drop Vit and wear lighter armor, I just wanted the fashion since dragonscale does well with sage blindfold and I make sage's blindfold a requirement, since I enjoy the blind archer trope. If you do invade I recommend you do the same, but with a lighter chestpiece as you said. I don't know if I would recommend dropping vig and and end though, especially end. There only 2 problems with the build and stamina cost of millwood swings and greatbow shots is one of them.

Also, can't you apply damage before you invade? I never tried but I just assumed it worked like DaS1 did.

>>160547778
I see you met the almighty Miyazaki and his dual crossbows as well.

>>160537351
Semen of Dong was a pretty interesting bossfight on Dark Souls 2 standards. Heck, it was better than a lot of Demon's Souls / Dark Souls 1 bosses.

The chariot was alright and a pretty novel idea, Freja was also good. Honestly, I preferred Freja to Armor Spider as far as the mechanics go since the Armor Spider bossfight relies too much on waiting out in the tunnel. Darklurker was also pretty decent.

A lot of the bosses in Dark Souls 2 were indeed good, otherwise they wouldn't have recycled their gimmicks into Dark Souls 3.

Pontiff : Fume Knight+Darklurker
Champion gravetendies: Royal Rat authority
Deacons: Royal Rat Vanguard+Prowling Magus.
Homoprinces: Throne Watcher+Defender gimmick

>>160547968
No, I'm implying it left me absolutely steaming with rage because he tarnished my precious K/D

>>160548132
I quite like this meme

>>160547801
Lawd have mercy, those lips look delicious

>>160547754
AND FUN

>>160547801
It's TSVAI-HAND-ER

>>160548312
IT'S A MEANS TO AN END

>>160547754
AND ONYX BLADES.

>hosts that pull the plug when he and his phantoms can't deal with obscuring greatbow memes
Really makes you think.

Watching DaS1 pvp videos is fucking painful now.
It's like they're moving through molasses.

>>160548393
You tried

>>160548102
>rates freja good
>rates darklurker pretty decent
What the hell is wrong with you? Freja is shit and only bearable in sotfs because of the torch thingy
>yeah, that clean hit didn't really count :^]
>oh, now you're slowed and can't run away from the spidies
Darklurker on the other hand is fucking great, probably the best multi boss fight

>>160548384
FEASTING ON NOOBS

>>160548492
Which is ironic considering how much more technical movement is in DaS1 at the tryhard level vs. DaS3 and it's free rolls.

>>160548561
R1

>>160547614
>>160547754
>>160548312
>>160548561
Brand new meme I'm not aware of?

>>160548604
POINT DOWN

>>160548635
https://vimeo.com/46850669

>>160548635
It's like 4 years old, but it's never been more true with the rise of Black Flame spamming Onyx Blade pyromancers.

>>160548593
Sure but it's still very slow. Wish we had tech in 3 as well. I'm not even aware of a single one.

What SL is your PvP build in DaS1?

My main is level 387

>>160547778
What was that at the end?
Collectors Edition exclusive?

>>160548704
That's ringing a few bells

>>160548042

Ok, thanks for the tips.

Also no you can't apply damage before invading, you always spawn in at full health.

>>160548962
I never spam anything

>>160544081
How much end/vit are you running for your mace build?

>>160548881
A fast speed game doesn't make PvP equally fast. BB's passive play and parry/heal fish also makes fights against good opponents slow.
DeS has probably the fastest PvP

>>160549137
L1 L1 L1 L1 L1

>Dark Souls 3 wins GOTY

>lower metacritic than BB

>Witcher 3 won GOTY instead of BB
>same rank as BB but has 20 something less professional reviews to makeup that same score, likely would've had a lower average if there were more of them

>BB's user ratings were infamously false flagged by assblasted xbots/pcucks whereas Witcher 3's were hilariously inflated for the same reason

>BB is the only game Gametrailers ever gave a perfect 10

really gives my noggin a joggin'

>>160548980
The DLC slip'n'slide animation

I'e been co-oping SOTFS with my friend the entire playthrough. We've been using name-engraved rings and everything. Suddenly we got to Shulva and we can't see our signs. We've tried putting them down everywhere, and we just can't seem to summon anymore. We're sort of progressing through the level and seeing what we can do, but so far no success.

We haven't tried summoning each other elsewhere as we're doing this, but does anyone have any idea what's going on? We're not using CE ora nything, and can see other signs/phantoms/messages, so no soft ban

>>160549118
One last tip for you.
I said there were 2 problems with the build. 1 is the stamina costs.
The other is seeds. If you see a seed in Farron Keep, you might as well black crystal it. Unless the host is mentally disabled and also has no phantoms. Suddenly all your advantages in Farron Keep are turned against you. Killing mobs gives away their healthbar and therefore your location, you can no longer traverse through the swamp cleanly, previous good spots for hunting are now no-go zones, and enemies are a major factor in vertebra hunting as it slows down host progress allowing you to line up shots easier and escape conflict easier, if you kill mobs both of these are lost.
If you see a seed elsewhere you might be okay, but if you see one in Farrons you are in for a fucking ride.

>>160549248
>DeS has probably the fastest PvP
*munches infinite heal grass*

>>160548704
Just looked up that's dudes channel and read some comments.
Seems like a smug douchebag to me, any Dark Souls historians wanna give me the rundown?

>>160549291

Did you kill any bosses?

>>160548962
>limiting yourself to 1 playstyle
I don't see why anyone would be lower than 387

>>160549270
exclusives will never win GOTY anymore. The industry has to pick the multiplats that everyone can play on their system of choice.

I can maybe see an exception for the Zelda next year, as I don't think anything good is on the horizon

>>160549528
Every dark souls yt content creator is a smug douchebag.
Every single one.

>>160549563
not that I can think of. Didn't go through any fog gates or anything. We were just walking along, made it to the second bonfire. Then couldn't summon again.

>>160549248
That doesn't make sense to me.
DaS3 is definitely the fastest, I'll agree that it's one of the least tactical games in the series though.