/domg/ - Dominions General

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Bump for Balance

Second for Join Game.

http://www.llamaserver.net/gameinfo.cgi?game=CastInTheNameOfBobYeNotGuilty

Was pretty cool watching 5 PD walk right past my water elementals to murder the casters several squares behind, not gonna lie.

But to be fair I did get to watch Lemuria lose his golem to Poison Touch so I guess it evens out.

>>160438871
>>160439031
This will always happen if the elementals are not physically in the way of all PD. Target selection happens on the first round and the squad will retarget only when their target is dead. Always bring a 'lure' to keep your caster safe.

>>160439157
Ah, see I thought they would "stick" to a new target if another part of the squad came into contact with it. I guess that's not actually the case.

>>160439830
I've read a lot of weird things about troop behavior that just isn't true.

So, basically when a unit gets into melee, it will fight in melee. It won't disengage until it's routed. Units do this individually (well, as squares, but only because the individuals share squares) not as squads. There's no 'engagement range' and squads only share engagement if they all happen to run into the same thing or if the engaged squad is actually the squad's target.

>>160440039
>It won't disengage until it's routed.
Oh, or if the thing it's engaged to is dead or routed. That'll break it too, naturally.

As a side note, this does yes mean that a big ol line set to attack rear will often have the sides of the line go past the fight and then swing back in at whatever squad

>>160438041

I'm not really sure what this is saying. Summod made red guard good? A8 bless?

>>160440039

Sometimes stuff will get 'caught' behind squares that are 'engaged'. Other times stuff will not be able to become engaged but still be trying to. Sometimes though units will walk past something they can't get close to even if by their orders they should be targeting it - a single SC with them having 'attack closest' orders, if enough guys are stacked up around it, some will walk past.

>>160440204
No, it gave a T'ien Chi commander straight up 8 levels of air magic.

>>160439157

I also always bring a lure even when I expect the casts to physically block the way (ala creeping doom/skelespam) because arrows.

>>160440409

Well that's one way to make people buy the generals I guess

>>160440204

A typo in 0.68. Instead of giving Prince Generals one level of path eight, it provided eight levels of path one.

Someone should make a natgen where the admin gens 100+ nations then just lets us pick. Don't bother vetting, just remove bats and birds.

>>160441776

Birds are fine.

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>>160441776
just for that I extended domgnatgen by 48 hours

t. badmin

>>160441871
No they aren't. They may be important but they are not okay.
Remember: Bats, birds, elves and jews - Bad news!

>>160442120

They're size 3 with a human statline. They're fine.

Bats and Elves I will agree with you on.

Ok so what if I changed Vampire Counts id number to 109 like it is in scrub warriors? You want to give that a go if you are around Sylvania?

>>160442257
>elves
elves a shit. Nerds just can't remember what units are where without seeing them on their overland map

>>160443943
Alternatively we could unstart and you can rejoin as nuln.

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nth for there is nothing wrong with Ermor

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Bats, are you retarded?

You're wasting 5 water gems per turn just to watch your elementals dissipate because of no magic leadership. Do you even know how it works?

So, VanillaCataclysm unit access: A non-exhaustive list.

Brown has Oiorpatas, Enki's chosens, Basalt Kings, Ktonian Alchemists, Alchemists of the Five Elements, Skrattis and probably more.
Red has warlock apprentices, soul contracts and is being eaten by White.
Green has bats, Pans, and Sibyls and is eating Grey.
Grey has Heart Companions, warlock apprentices, galdermen, illuminated ones, trolls and is being gang-banged by Green and Aquamarine.
Aquamarine has Vanheres and Vanherses, High Seraphs, and the Steel Ovens.
White has Pans, Enkidu Shamans, Guhyakas, Shadow Vestals and Yeddeoni and is eating Red.
Pink is AI; Black, Purple and Beige are ded. Brown is the only one not involved in a conflict.

Will Fool's Luck prevent BV damage?

>>160445824
Forgot to add, Brown also has Sorcerers and Aphroi and Grey has Zamzummites.

>>160445824
Red had a bad case of finding shitty sites. Also I should have been blood hunting more aggressively.

>>160445949
Sure, why not.

>>160445824
Very good.

>>160445824
I also have Bogarussian alchemists, but they're from the same site with Ktonian and Aof5e.

>>160444478
>>160443943
>tfw no responses when you try to fix problems
If I dont hear anything from either llama or Vampire Counts by 4 am GMT+1 I'll just just set him to AI on the game page so we can all get on with the game.

>>160447651
You can't do that directly. You need to change their e-mail and have someone send in the go-AI turn

>>160447651

Maybe give him more than 30 minutes to reply. Not really his fault his nation didn't work.

>>160448402
Fug.
>>160448432
4 am is in about seven hours

>>160448402
Wait if someone needs to send in a go AI turn and he isnt in the game then we cant set him to AI. I'll have to unstart the thing again anyway.

>>160447651
Hi, yeah that should work, alternatively unstart the game, I'll go whip up a pretender with the correct nation id, (or edit the one I have in a hex editor to have the correct id since I'm a hard cunt) and then resubmit.

I can't be around heaps, I'm currently five thousand kilometers away from home and working 12 hours at a time. I'll be flying home today so I'll be more available then.

Grey and Aquamarine, do your fucking turn.

>>160448673

If he isn't in the game you don't need to set AI or unstart or anything - simply play the game without him in it. That said,>>160448992. If he created a pretender with a version of the .dm that had a different nation ID, it would definitely not exist in the started game. I know the .dm changed a bunch of times during setup.

>>160449451
I don't think it would work like that, llamaserver uses its own timing system, not the game's standard autohost system, so considering I just got a 12 hour reminder email, there's a good chance that llama would wait until I've submitted my turn, until I stale.

>>160448992
Its never easy. Well I can extend the time if we need to as long as I know stuff is happening. Its not like people will get a worse start if we start over again.
This has the VC stuff changed to 109
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0BxQvrB13LOtabVVBUHlDWUpNVjA/view?usp=sharing
>>160449451
He is in the game page on llama but not actually in the game. As such llama is waiting for turns it cant get and isnt sending him anything either. Also the nation id was not changed while I was fucking around with the .dm, I just noticed that scrubwarriors had a working VC nation and I thought maybe the different id might have something to do with it.

>>160449737
>I just noticed that scrubwarriors had a working VC nation and I thought maybe the different id might have something to do with it.
Yeah that's me, I just grabbed my SW sylvania pretender, since the counts mod I submitted was pulled out of the warhammer bundle mod that I sent you. I'm not sure why or how it has a different id now, but I'm sorry for being careless enough to just submit my pretender without testing it.

>>160449965
Now that I think about it, SW admin had to do a shitload of merging to get them all to play nice so I should have seen this coming.

>>160449965
Wait are you saying you used your pretender that was already from Sylvania with an id of 109? Well shit that might explain everything. So all you should have to do is use the 194 version everyone else is using right?

>>160445824
>Aquamarine has Vanheres and Vanherses, High Seraphs, and the Steel Ovens.
Jesus fucking christ

High seraphs alone are toppest tier in cata

>>160450272
Yes, exactly.
It's too late now though, we can't patch an already started game with the pretender. It'd need a rehost.

>>160450319
>tfw you got nuns, inquisitors warlocks, coral mothers and Bacabs
I only got the Bacabs too late to do much with them.

>>160450430
Well shit I'll do that right now. I thought it was going to be some bullshit problem that would take a ton of work.

>>160450435

reminds of that time I had 3 capricorn sites

>>160450646
I got two bacab sites in the same province.

>>160450430
I restarted and deleted your guy, go go go.

>>160442003
My computer ate my dog while it was eating my homework.

Will need 72 more hours in natgen.

t. me

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>>160451896
it's not nice to call your GF your dog

What's better for a neutral pref nation, O3C/H3G3 or O3C/H0G0?

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>>160451896
Granted.

>>160452026

Always go Growth 3 unless you're playing a popkill nation that isn't Asphodel.

Always.

>>160452004
When i said computer i meant me, when i said dog i meant my gf and when i said homework i meant dick.

>>160452106
>Always
Way to break the conditioning.

>>160450918
Done \O/

>>160452454
Remember kids, always check that your mods are in order before you start games.

Damn Tzeentch, you fast as fuck.

>>160452026

depends on the nation, the other scales, and your god

the whole 'oh i'll give some details but not others so people can't guess my buiiild' attitude will do literally nothing but make you suck for longer

>>160449110
Done and sent.

Now we just need to gang up on Aquamarine for being slow and totally not because they're attacking me or anything. Who's with me?

>>160452061
You were looking for an excuse to put in a 72 hour extension anyways, admit it

>>160454789
It's an awake angel with prod 2. Does that change anything?

>>160454789
For MA Marignon so I was thinking C3 to stop rain.

I need a 24 hour extension. I got a test on transistors tomorrow and I don't know shit bout them.

>>160455328
transistors suck: A+

>>160455328
Ulm btw

>>160455152
Take growth 3 over both order and temp. I also prefer order over temp both because temp has mitigated values by season and because the unrest reduction from growth often actually matters.

>>160455310
H v C for Mari is odd in that your mages prefer H whenever it's not raining (resistance to heat fatigue and improved lighting-people-on-fire from heatshock and elementals) but, as you say, Cold helps vs the rain. Either way, I'd go for the temp extreme.

>>160452026

it so fucking depends.

Are you playing cold blooded? Heat 3
Playing on a map with a lot of rivers? Cold 3
Underwater Nation? Cold 3 or Heat 3.
Fire/Water mages in abundance? Heat/Cold 3.

Always always always take growth 3. The incredibly niche cases where you want less than growth 3 are presumably beyond your grasp to fully exploit.

Stop this meme of asking for advice and only giving a smidgen of information like anyone can actually use that. EA Agartha probably wants Heat 3. LA Agartha can do just fine with Cold 3. MA Marignon can do well in Heat 3, while MA W9 Pan can go with Cold 3.

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>>160455383
>>160455328
ULLLLLLMMMMMMMM

>>160455541
Pls help idk which kvls to use to find Q-points

>>160454789

The difference is 9% income, and 0.6% growth. That means Growth/Temp is inferior for the first eighteen turns or thereabouts. After which it is better, and continues becoming more better.

There's some variation to that, anyway. If you're at Heat 3, for example, then H3G3 has a few turns of superior-income to H0G0 in the winter of year one. Cold 3 similarly in the summers.

>>160455328
Here's some good study material

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-zA1jRmAYfU

What happened to memethrone? Did we unstart?

>>160456720
Read the thread, lad

>>160456720
Yes we did. Turns out sylvania was using a pretender with the wrong nation id. Its all fixed now though, so you can go back to worrying about how you are sandwiched between skaven and lizards.

>>160457023

OH SHIT I DIDN'T EVEN THINK ABOUT THAT

>>160457364
>he didnt check the map
The mainland is going to be some hectic shit I tell you what.

How does Thanksgiving week usually work?

>>160458962
You do your fucking turns

>>160458962
Oh, I forgot about this!
4 more days for natgen, please.

>>160459507
In that case I'll be going AI as well.

>>160459595
We should all go AI so I can join another game.

>>160460023
Just go AI IRL.

>>160460121
I would get my AI into your butt, qtboi.

>>160460023

Join CastInTheNameOfBob

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>>160459507
reminder Gythia is the only reason this game is going on still, everyone else would gladly quit but he wants his meme win

>>160460351
But I shitpost from there!

>>160460616
I would do it since i have always wanted to play cold ragha, but 5 games is my limit.

>>160460878
Not right now you don't

>>160460978
>Names pretender Innovative Cold 3 Scales Ragha
>Runs H3 doublebless

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>>160460998

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>>160461281
>no girdle around the neck

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>>160461360
I didn't make it, I only saved it.

so are you guys actually gay or just ironically gayposting?

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>>160462301

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>>160462301
It literally doesn't matter either way. For all you know we might actually both be women.

>>160461118
:3c

>>160461281
Can someone explain this Forester Bob meme to me? I'm relatively new here and I've never heard the full story.

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>>160462568
In a newbie game a guy beat back regular troops with his Forester pretender

2 hours Ulm.

>>160460871
Carlix certainly has endurance.

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>>160462568
Basically, in the extremely early days when everyone was still a massive scrub, there was a game made using the Glory of the Gods map. Marverni started next to Helheim, and Helheim being Helheim immediately started a blessrush, completely stomping everything in their path to Marverni's capital using viking elf cavalry.

What they didn't count on is that Marverni's god had awoken, and they had spent a couple dozen gems forging some budget SC gear for him. It was a Lord of the Forest named Forester Bob, and it shrekt Helheim so hard that he went AI when he lost his sacred stacks to a single unit, completely turning what was looking to be a humiliating defeat for Marverni into an elven genocide.

It became a meme because it was the first real example of a perfect counter being performed in this community, as well as the fact that Helheim was massively butthurt about it for weeks afterwards, shitposting whenever it was bought up.

It's honestly just a pretty nice story that teaches a good lesson about not relying on a single overpowered strategy and getting complacent because of it.

>>160462961
I do, but I'm not enjoying it anymore.

To be honest I was planning on demolishing my forts and moving out of my thrones so either Gyth or Durholm instawon.

But hell, work for your win.

ded

>>160467131
Cast ritual of rebirth then, get some mummies up in this bitch.

Sylvania says that everything is working fine now, but he's too busy to take his turn and will do it later

>>160469942
I know who my first target is.

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>>160469942

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thank you ulm, even though I gave you 24 hours you still got your turn in, you're a real human bean

>>160473119
Where that double turn tho

>>160462703
>the Armorer

Fitting desu

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He actually did it the madman

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The Vaetti generation failed to give us any goblins so I'm currently whipping up a new batch. It's surprisingly slow so I'm really hoping that I'm not going to have to run this a third time. When that's done, I'll finish assembling our finalist list and then start work on the compilation. If you want something new then now's the time to write it in.

>>160473456
>F9E4D9N9B9
Mictlan I presume?

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Sorry about that bump machaka

>>160473465
Are those dudes riding coutals?

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>>160473465
It would probably help if you guys were reminded of what we have on tap.

>>160473871
>Aoisapokan Human Flying Cavalry (Advanced human), 60g, 15r, Light Lance, Scale Mail Cuirass, Leather Cap, Shield, Amphiptere mount.

>>160473559
Who else?

>>160474065
Not Therodos thats for sure.

>>160473983
Please also add bullshit spells.

>>160473456
Manly as fuck

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>>160473456
>mfw Nifel giants with this bless

>>160476353
Is that a mod?

>>160476894
Whats the word on those random nations?

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>>160478918
I'm waiting for the program to generate an acceptable fifth Vaetti nation and then I'll start the tedious part.

>>160476894
Yes. It randomizes spells.

>>160476353
>>160479916
Please don't do this.

>>160479916
Is that the one where it made astral corruption a nature spell and the guy who casted it got killed by a doom horror because he wasnt casting blood spells?

I had a strange situation /domg/, i'm in the AC stage of a game and casted twice born to try and suicide some D mages into wights (already max research), and for some reason it didn't trigger horror attacks, any reason why?

>>160480672
Twice Born is only 10 gems. Horror attacks aren't guaranteed at that level but it's high enough you should be wary of and expect them.

>>160480596
Not only that, he built his entire pretender around it and lost the pretender the turn he cast it - instantly dropping the global.

I think he went AI.

>>160481286
I was trying to get the attack on purpose, guess I just had good RNG (which in my case was bad)

>tfw you are playing EA Atlantis and you spend a turn converting 80% of your fire gems into lightness lanterns

>>160481524
iktfb
Did that as Bery and Agartha

>>160481392
Ah well in that case you could try horrormarking them. Lightless Lanterns are just about the easiest way but probably too slow for your purposes. Boots of the Planes have a whopping 50% horrormark chance and are uncursed for convenient swapping but they do cost 40 pearls. Probably no-one's forged them yet, though.

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>>160481524

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I just need a few more Winged Primates to generate and then I can wrap up the selection process. I'll be gathering all their seeds, punching them back into the program, and then generating two or three mods for you guys to preview. If you want to see what these nations look like before the upload, go back through the batch previews that I threw up.

>>160473456
>prioritizing D and E above W
Don't worry, this guy isn't gud enough to pull the strategy off.

>>160483604
W isnt as useful for giants though.

>>160483683
wait are you saying this is on NIEFEL?

>>160483718
Wait no, I'm full of shit. I was think of something else. Thats mictlan.

>>160483604

You can really only make a Quadbless Pretender for Mictlan if you take D9 due to the chassis available

W9F9D9B9 vs F9D9N9B9

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>>160484561

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>>160484701
why C3? you get no extra points from it scrub

>>160484759
Because I whipped it out quick to prove a point.

>>160484561
>>160484701
I literally made this exact pretender barring the C3 thing a hot second ago. You can also use a monolith to get S9N9E9X9

>>160484854
>S9N9E9X9
You could, but why would you want to?

>>160484936
I'm just sayin you can

Force hosting. Anyone please to AI Asspholdurr?

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Arco, TNN, some of you guys are ok. Don't go to Temiglia this turn.

>>160482840
You got them winged monkeys yet senpai?

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Our LA Nationgen game is ready for testing.

I have two packs of about twenty nations each for 40-something nations in total. I want you guys to test these clusterfucks out, fall in love with a bunch, and then report back. We'll eventually take all your favorites and have ourselves a game on llama.

Now, before we go further, I want to make it clear that this will be first come and first served on Llama. You'll need to let me know what nations you guys like, but beyond making sure they're in the final compilation, you won't have any sort of binding dibs. I think this is the easiest and fastest way to pull this off.

So here you go. Enjoy!

pastebin.com/da7Lgrhr

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Fuckin stop it. For wut purpose?

Okay, so I checked the first nation of the first pack, and it's a mono-blood nation. They have literally no magic aside from blood outside of their cap. Pretty efficient leach casters I guess, but still. Wow. Units are all bad medium infantry/cavalry, with an overpriced sacred scorpion rider.

>>160488672
>tfw I have to go to a bullshit health and safety meeting in an hour and wont get full time to test shit
I swear to go if its some more bullshit about wearing your labcoat and leather shoes I will shit a brick

>>160488752
Who's the admin?

>>160489181
C'tis I believe.

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>>160488963
Picking these nations mostly on looks was probably a poor idea.

>>160488963
The second one has gryphon riding necromancers which is pretty cool.

>>160488963
Second nation's usable. Good magic arsenal, but on very expensive mages so research is expensive and bloodhunting will be too. Units here are HEAVY infantry and some more weird cavalry. Big berserker crazy-morale sacreds, but one attack. Worth noting that this nation has shock/poison/fire res on everything, which would be nice if they had the paths to take advantage of that. Also has assassins.

Third nation has 40g S1 mages, so that's gonna be a thing, and their cap mage is basically what a magister arcane wishes he looked like (barring the cap only part). He's got blood too, but no other blood so your hunting isn't great. When you do get slaves, though, you'll have great crosspaths to use them (storm demons, demon knights, horrors). Another size 3 sacred berserker, but at least it has 2 attacks and a magic weapon. No recruitable H3 (unlike the first two). Units are medium infantry and horse cavalry which you'll never use, because they also have flail-wielding steel crossbow dudes for the same price which are probably the only guys you'll want.

Fourth nation is amazons that are going to rely on their high precision crossbows, because high precision crossbows are cool. Heavily armored trident infantry to front line for them too. Flying gryphon cavalry that you'll never buy because lul 110 gold. Badass sacred crossbows with a werewolf wounded shape that revert after the fight. In spite of their solid troops, consider this a super low tier nation, though, because their mages are awful. The E1N1 guys can be good lab rats, but you don't have any good out of cap mages to take advantage of efficient research and even the cap mages are mediocre at best.

Fifth nation has militia-arbalests, which are cheap and massable. Clockwork heavy infantry to front line for them and most important FEAR sacred cavalry like nightmares. Also like nightmares in that they have 13 encumbrance. Banefire mages are ok, cap mages are F/D/W/N which is nice for sites + a few spells

>>160488672
>going to work and can't spend the whole day testing

Show us one of your favourite nation from those

>>160489861
yeah, I'm going over all of them.

Erisoita is absolute shit. It's like MA Atlantis if it were a land nation and lost its awesome big mages in exchange for some expensive, not sacred pegasus cavarly.

Hashinesippu is a t-strike nation with a LOT of summons. They can do either t-strike coms or the more standard stormpower->t-strike depending on if they want to sacrifice mages for more casts. They have a LOT of summons - Lanka's, Yomi's, and Jomon's. They don't have the paths natively to summon much of anything, but the right pretender could get them diversity from summons to make up for their razor-focused recruitable mages. They have 7g slave archers with composite bows, so that's nice too. Their infantry sucks, but they have chariots for expansion.

Sesgorice has blood, astral, and lanka's summons, but lacks the air and death to get the most out of them and pays for H2 on their mages. Their mages are still worth the cost given their paths, but this needs a pretender for Dakini. Troops are either meh or expensive.

Aunukilis has LA Atlantis, and a 40g S1 mage. So, basically awesome. Weak crosspaths, with a cap F2S3(FSDE)1. The built in mind hunting is cool, and this nation's only diversity needs is E, so with an awake expander they can make a strong early-midgame push with efficient troops and mages.

Pisaly has a similar troop lineup in terms of stuff that you actually want to use, but harder to use mages with W and N being the primary paths. A bit more diversity on this nation than others, given that they have a cap only 2D2E mage to go with their W/N/A/S paths.

Marrena is oddly enough almost identical to Pisaly, but better. Their cap mage is EB(AESB) that auto-summons a size 3 illearth, and they have a 40g lab rat that can be astral. Add a usable sacred and a blowpipe assassin and you have something interesting.

>>160488963
Sesgorice looks like they might be a contender.

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>>160490197
That fifth nation >>160489865 mentioned is called Omens and their sacred fear cavalry turn into fire elementals upon death. That's probably nothing too special in the scheme of things but I love little combos like that.

>>160490746
That second group of flying monkeys look like they dont fuck around.

Murghonon is rough because they're paying 16 gold for caelians. Bit tankier, though, and one of their troops is a dual wielder. Mages are not great - D2X1 is your core battlemage, but it costs 225g since you're paying for a sacred demon thing. At least they're sturdy. You can maybe thug them too since they have built in fear and 16 hp. Their cap mages can do so better, given guaranteed E magic and he ability to self bless. Expensive troops + expensive mages means you'll need to take advantage of mobility to do well with them. Overall still usable just because it's a flying nation.

Now Sarhaneni I like. Cheap flying crossbows, E2X1 and E2A1X1 mages, and some very heavily armored flyers. Prod 3 is a must, but these guys are almost like a flying Ulm. REALLY solid nation. They've got sacred archers too, and since your battlemages are sacred you might take an A minor bless or something. The A on your pretender is also nice because with an air booster you can make staffs of elemental mastery from your a-random cap mages. Probably the best nation so far.

Satraalpakgan is Caelians with hoburg slaves. They've got kinda wonky mages with some RoS access. They have Caelum's good-guy summons with no native astral, so like Caelum they'll have issues getting them. I'd rate this nation as significantly weaker than vanilla overall. They've got mechanized hoburgs, but they're expensive and not impressively strong.

Jabad is the first flying monkey nation and their so-called winged chariots don't fly. I don't like this nation just because I don't like their mages. Expensive S2N2 or cheap N1 are their out of cap options, and their cap mage is just S2N3X1.

Tirbal is also flying monkeys, and they have BL's summons (so good and ebil summons). They have cheap S1W1, less cheap S2W1, and some diverse mages to serve as com masters - FAWS and AWSD. Both are available out of cap too. This nation will be tricky to get the most out of your mages and really wants a blood god.

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>>160490746
>Pisaly and Marrena are almost identical
That's not fair to our Atlantian fan so our first patch/expansion will add an additional fish choice. If any other nations are like this, be sure to write something so I can fix it.

>>160491547
>Winged chariots don't fly
I almost want to toss wings on their pig and make the unit flying.

Good luck with the Foulspawn nations!

Ondta is a foulspawn nation, which means I'll need to actually go in game to figure out what their units are. Can't comment on their overall strength as a result since I can't tell what their sacred cavalry even are from the inspector, but they're a blood nation with 175g B2 mages, so they can hunt well. They also have an unusually cheap commander with a patrol bonus that automatically reduces unrest. They're basically MADE to be a blood nation, and their national paths let them cast crossbreeding, so they're actually a foulspawn nation that can summon foulspawn, which i neat. Sadly I doubt that's actually remotely good compared to going full-demon with recruitable foulspawn instead.

Gakand is another foulspawn nation, so I similarly can't judge troop values by looking at them. They also have minotaurs, but minos suck so you'll be using foulspawn. Their mages are VERY different, though. These lads are a full on t-strike nation, with cheap A2s and up to A4 in cap. Good RoS access too. Limited blood, given that their cheaper blood mage is 290 gold, but it's there. Their A2 mages are berserkers, so even though they can survive RoS what with their 30 hp, being hit by it will turn off their magic.

Lomix is the third foulspawn nation with both cav and archer sacreds. They have a cheap lab rat that can random B1 or S1. You can probably even thug these guys given their 27 hp pool. Very awesome. They've got some good S2/S3 mages too, and the ones that random blood can be boosted or empowered into horror artillery. These guys are my favorite foulspawn nation because of that and the lab rats, but all three foulspawn so far look good. I hope that you're going to let more than one player use each 'race,' since all of the foul spawn nations so far are very diverse

Caevie has no sacreds, which sucks, but they have actual ranged units. From what I've seen with another nation, this means they can random longbows, crossbows, arbalests, short bows, and composite bows. They require a bit of sorting to use right as a result, but are quite good. Mage-wise, the foul spawn continue to have usable and different magic. These guys are very heavily death focused, with B1D2/X1 and S1D2/X1 out of cap. Their battlefield clear spell will be Winds of Death. They've got reliable D4 in cap too, but a harder time getting the right crosspaths for it. D4S2 Elders can cast soul drain with the right boosters and PotS, which is pretty good too. This nation will scale well as a result of their solid lategame magic options and easy path into vampires, but has expensive mages so they'll need to be either fairly sizable or have good scales to get there.

Notes so far - no crazy sacreds or Chimori-tier superefficient unit+mage nations. So far I like Hashinesippu, Sarhaneni, Gakand, and Lomix the best, with Sarhaneni being my favorite. Checking out part 2 now.

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>>160492020
>One player for each race.
That's way too restrictive. The pool's open and you guys can horse around with anyone you want. If that means we're getting tons of Foulspawns then I'll make sure that every one of their million units works.

>>160492234
>>160492020
For anyone interested, you can take a look at all of a Foulspawn nation's units by un-restricting the search a little.

Per-en are thematically EXACTLY what you expect from a nation of evil hoburg industrialists. Hoburg crossbows are their core regular unit (the city's regulars) and both sacred and non-sacred power armor. Reliably big blood, earth, and fire with a smidgen of death. Extremely flavorful nation, and decently strong with their flaming hoburg crossbows and big E magic. A+ for both flavor and gameplay.

Gawald is odd, but still good. A2E2 no-random mage is basically cloud-trapeze RoS: The Unit but it can also do the E utility and thunderstrike stuff. No crossbows and their power armor isn't as cool. They do have cheap lab rats and up to A4 on their cap mages, though, so they're also a definitely playable race.

Livria is blood-magic hoburgs. Their basic bloodhunter is EXTREMELY cheap and has False Army: 20 which is absolutely hilarious. These guys are the nation that I didn't know I wanted to see. They also have LOTS of S/B mages. They can summon Fallen Angels and easily have the paths to do so (they don't even need a booster). Their troops kinda suck, especially against evo, so they need to make the switch to full demon armies ASAP. Once they do, though, they're pretty good just on account of efficient blood access and so many horror casters. SO MANY.

Maelum is a nation of ichtyids and hoburgs with cheap s1w1 mages (which seems to be a thing for some reason), but they have inept researchers and garbage crosspaths. The worst hoburg nation and the worst water-astral nation. Pick one of the others if you want either of these themes.

>>160492654
Thanks, I'll check that out then. If anything jumps out at me, I'll make another pass of the foulspawn, but I imagine that their units will be similar to the foulspawn units from past natgen games - some flyers, a variety of different attacks and damage types, and hard hitting heavy infantry.

>>160492931
>>160492234
Just so you know Caevie does have a sacred, it's an extremely light muuch infantry with 100% darkvision and dark power 4.

I tried the foulspawn search thing and am quite confident that it doesn't cover all of it (eg - searching 'Lom' turned up no archer units, but they have a sacred archer recruit).

>>160493258
Huh. That didn't show up in the mod inspector.

All right, I need to go so I'm not going to finish going over all the nations, but one weird thing I saw was that Aoisapoka has trample + swallow on a lot of their units, but they're size 2. This means that they will eat bugs and hoburgs that aren't in power armor, which is pretty funny.

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>>160493465
Aoisapoka just became my new favorite.

Thanks a ton for all of your insight! I'm going to clean this and maybe include it in the pastebin along with everyone else's comments. That'll hopefully help the other players out with making their selections.

>>160488672
Okay I think I'm a bit retarded but when I try to make a game with the second batch it gives error "Can't access 123_馬es flag.tga"

>>160494280
Oh yeah, that might be a character issue if you don't have the Chinese language pack installed. Rename the nation, the .tga file for the flag, and the references to it in the .dm file.

>>160494280
That's partially my fault for picking önes as a choice. Can you rename your 123_馬es folder to 123-önes? I'm hoping that's all you need to do but I'll otherwise patch their names to Ones in the next upload.

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>>160494380
>>160494421

Plain renaming to 123-önes didn't work, however I looked through the dm file, copied the folder path and pasted it, and although it has these weird characters, it works now.

>>160486152
You fucking nigger

>>160490905
>no fire resistance
>chain effect of troops turning into fire elementals

>>160488963
Talking shit about monopath blood?

All of the illithid nations seem good. One has 70g Nether Darts casters, one has communicants, and one has mind blasters, so they're diverse enough despite all having lots of Astral.

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These lizards riding lizards are actually secret furries. One of them changes into a werefox and the other into a werebear.

Needless to say the werefox form is 10 size 1 and completely useless.

>>160495391
10 HP* size 1*

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>>160495391
>they use crocodiles for sailing

Never mind I think I'll keep 'em. Calling a bid on Tisor.

>>160494031
So how and when do we pick nations?

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Just threeeeee more players.

http://www.llamaserver.net/gameinfo.cgi?game=CastInTheNameOfBobYeNotGuilty

>stale twice because of RL issues
>decide to get back into the game and do my turn
>llama decides to make everyone stale again

fuck that.

Just gonna say one of the nations has auto-slave TROOPS recruitable at every fort. Which means you can pump out a communion slave besides your researcher every turn. Not gonna tell you which nation though, gotta find it yourself.

Happy communioning.

>>160498076

It's really easy to find stuff like that with the inspector, man.

>>160498076
Just so you know, he's talking about Cthaegh'ya.

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>>160498635

Supreme Mages indeed, though I was hoping it would be 5/per month for maximum memes.

>>160455690
>>160455432
>>160455152

To expand a bit on 'why more details are needed', >>160455494 fucking nailed it but some nations want early gold - some want more gold over time, some want gold to try to secure mercs cause their expansion is high-res but they had no choice but to take a rainbow, some nations don't really care about gold as much as mag-3, or prod-3. Some nations will need more gold early if they take prod-3, or growth if they got prod-0. Sometimes you don't want Order quite as much for a specific nation because you've decided to go Luck for RP/fun reasons.

Not to mention, most of the time these questions get asked? The rest of the build is a godawful mess made of potatoes and a single reply in the thread could save a person an entire game of getting their ass handed to them.

>>160494031
Are we going to be picking nations fairly soon or would I be able to get some sleep in?

@RaceWar admin - will you give players the option to write national lore?

yoooooooooooooo

The illithid race with communicants has FIFTEEN gold hypnotizers

>>160501501
Only one shot though.

>>160501873
Oh, that's fine then

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Does anyone else get that rush of power when you know that 25+ other people are desperately waiting for you to send your turn without knowing that they are going to be blueballed for at least 24 more hours?

>>160488672
I tried them all and like 40% of them have native RoS casters.
Some have 35-40g B1 mages.
Some have really cool looking units but worthless and also worthless mages.

As usual, most of the nations seem pointless and boring.

However there are some that are worth playing.

>>160504095
I'm not an actual sociopath, so no

Need 72 more hours in DomgNatGen because uh... ninjas killed my family and I'm taking kung fu classes but don't have time to submit my tuns.

>>160504095
I only get a rush of power when someone is desperately trying to contact me on steam or such and I'm ignoring his calls and secretly moving all my troops near his borders.

Like the pleasure you get from being a Barbarian who decides to just smash the world's most charismatic and intelligent leader. Try to talk and diplomance all you want it won't do a thing.

>>160505093
Enjoy being Malakaled.

>>160505207
People like those are my main and easiest targets, because like it or not being too friendly and too good with words will trigger flags for some people.

Diplomonsters are only a problem in games with newbyes.

>>160505410
which means every /domg/ game

>>160505410
There are about dozen humans who are actually able to play this game outside newbie level.

Reminder that Malakal's team is so blooy that they will win easy if we don't rush them.

>>160494751
Oh shit I'm real sorry about that. Let me send you bloodslaves ingame to make up for it.

Someone AI Ashod so I don't try to micro manage the turns and fuck it up.

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Don't think it was worth it, Xib.

>>160506894
>Someone AI Ashod
pls don't

>>160506881
Seconded.

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In other CannotIntoHost news.

nice battle Lemuria, surprsied my skeletons survived as long as they did, shoudl have two mages set to D2D spam. I hope you feel the pain of that dead grand lemur though

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And Machaka is eating AI Asphodel.

>>160505410
>Diplomonstering is a signal they're not a real threat.

Diplomonstering Detected.

>>160501501
>>160501873
Range 5 too, so you have to find the range where they don't immediately end up in melee.

>>160506881
>>160507126
rush team Malakal, and the tricksy skellies

>>160507442

Hahaha, I thought the same thing when >>160505410 said that.

>>160505093

I like starting to kill someone, being invaded by every single other neighbour despite not being in the lead, and managing to hold them off while killing that person. Where is your diplo now? WHERE IS YOUR DIPLO NOW?

>>160510484
t. =)

>>160505410
If your diplomacy is causing people to attack you, you're not a very good diplomat.

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>game is using unmodified khorne and skaven

>>160513182
For what it's worth I'm staggeringly incompetent.

Llama pls... Llama... stahp!

>>160513432
Forgot my name

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>>160513238

I helped build your bless mate.

>>160513517
Ok nvm it's fucking DG Arco

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all these bad hostings makes me feel better about putting low effort into my turns

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Is this coincidence or scripted event?

>>160507442
>how many layers of diplomancering are you on

>>160510484
>>160510734
Yeah. I'm pretty sure the happy Lemurian is literally the only person I've seen pull something like that off.

>>160514235
Who is he, btw?

>>160513801
>Fighting three front war
>Spend 90 minutes scripting three communions
>Stales
>Sauro moves 1k doomstack onto just captured fort with no pd
Every time it stales I lose a fort to AI Sauro, and meanwhile I'm trying to stop Riley from winning. It's inexpressibly vexing to try to make a comeback and this shit keeps happening.
Can we get a rollback and send a hot fix to llama?

>>160514372
>Malakal (Arabic: ملكال Malakāl) is a city in South Sudan and second largest city after the country's capital Juba.

>>160514372
He's a player from the Steam group that's very diplomatically active and wins games. It's a meme to debate whether he wins because JUST AS PLANNED or because the people in our games are all bad.

>>160514235
I want more reports from this gaem.

>>160514235

It works because people who dogpile to 'help someone else out' are often weaker players who don't realize the strategic weakness of that tactic. So you can choke them, outmaneuver them, defensive trap them. I've done it and i've seen it done, so it's certainly not impossible.

You can also do the ghetto version - hold them off just long enough to choke the last of the life from the diplomonster, so you both die together.

>>160515469
Wait, happy Lemurian is Malakal?

There's a steam player named Smiling Spectre. Maybe it's him?

Game: Teaching_Feeling
Turn number 2
Next turn due: 14:23 GMT on Saturday November 19th

Abysia 2h file received
Agartha 2h file received
Arcoscephale 2h file received
Asphodel 2h file received
Bandar Log 2h file received
Caelum 2h file received
Ermor 2h file received
Ashdod 2h file received
>Jotunheim Waiting for 2h file
Man 2h file received
Marignon 2h file received
Mictlan 2h file received
Nazca 2h file received
Pangaea 2h file received
Pelagia 2h file received
R'lyeh 2h file received
Vanarus 2h file received
Sceleria 2h file received
Ulm 2h file received
Vanheim 2h file received

Malakal, please, as a birthday gift to me please submit your turn

>>160516801
Happy Birthday =)

>>160516801

I just came from work and am very tired but just for you...

>>160516957
What do you do for a living?

>>160517184
I work as a plumber. Why would you ask something like that?

>>160517184
writes polish birthday cards for his russian masters

>>160516801

Done.

>>160517184

I am a lawyer.

But I also am just good with games overall, had great run with EU3 MP in RPGCodex games.

>>160518068
Thank you very much!

>>160518068
>I am a lawyer.
That's cool. Makes sense that you'd be diplomatically active too.

>>160518298

I just like talking with people, if I wanted no diplo games I'd play single player.

>>160518068
Lots of lawyers playing dominions, I think.

>>160519196
I enjoy no-diplo games, because I like Dominions mechanically, but the AI is very weak

>>160501326
Lore can be written after the game starts, if you hotswap the mods out locally there will be no ill effects as long as that's all you changed.

>>160519393
but I want other players to be able to read about it

>>160518068
Are you the lawyer who mentioned having a mistress some years back?

>>160519458

No, not me.

>>160519421
They can hotswap it too. An initial period might make sense logistically though, to cause it to actually get done and have the host assemble things properly.

>>160519278
Who else?

I'm guessing basically the diplomonsters

>>160519618
I work at a feed store and have to deal with snowflake horse people all day

I'm a geologist and I play Dominions because E is the best path so it feels like my discipline is being respected

It...it's not being respected

nobody respects us

>>160519875
I respect you, anon!

I'm an engineering student and I play Dominions to procrastinate and hide the pain of failing exams.

>>160519875
Who /NEET/ here?
if so then get a job ya bums

>>160514549
I'm fine with trying a rollback this time, but exactly what hot fix am I supposed to send to llama? Like, I don't even know what the issue is.

>>160519875

your entire profession has mostly been reduced to 'yo, where the oil at?'

>>160520072
Idk either, but I think it has something to do with summod, so if we fix the version the game is hosted on we can give it to llama.

I was going to take first in provinces this turn, too.

I'm a 'project manager' which is as boring as it sounds

>>160520148
replace oil with any mineral, and yeah, basically

Nobody cares about geological history anymore

>>160520342
I don't think that summod could cause the game to host ahead of schedule. That sounds like a llama issue.

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>>160520838
Unfortunately it did host on schedule, just with no 2h files

>>160519875
Hey, I think geology is cool. Then again, I live in Iceland so it's not hard for me to find cool geological stuff.

>>160521356
Fuck, Iceland is so interesting geologically, but it's way outside my area of expertise

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>>160521120
>start shitty meme game with retarded settings
>shitpost about it for months
>the game becomes so bloated that it crashes the community's only proper server

thanks gdfags

>>160521120
Oh, nevermind then.

Incidentally, I know what kind of bug that is. That's where something gets summoned outside of the area for the battle. Usually spells like HoS and Swarm check before casting if there's room on the battlefield before casting.

It might be on one of the Kailasa summons that was bugged to autosummon iron ancestors instead of cast whatever battlespell it was supposed to cast instead, but I didn't think that Der Gotter had that version of summod.

>Spend an hour scripting
>LOL TURN BROKE

I know I said I was gonna fight to the end

But this is the second time it happened

Fuck this.

>>160514235
Happy Lemur is winning because everyone else in his fucking game is steaming garbage

>>160519875
at least it's not sociology. even biologists look down on sociologists. Nature truly is the best path, outside of Death, Blood and Astral.

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So is anyone thoroughly disappointed with any of the sets? I know about the Atlantian issue but I'm not aware of any others. Also I'm adding an Atlantian nation, fixing the önes issue, looking into making Winged Chariots into flying Winged Chariots, and possibly changing the stats for the elemental dying shapes. If you see anything else that needs to be looked at then let me know as soon as possible.

>>160496958
>>160501246
>Picking the nations
A poll's coming out the same time as the patch/expansion. You'll have something like three votes, and any nation without votes gets dropped from the final version. I'll then host this on llama and you guys will send pretenders in on a first served basis.

>>160501326
>National Lore
The one problem with that is no one's guaranteed to get a nation until they've sent the pretender in. I'll take lore requests at that stage.

>>160504176
>Only some are worth playing
What's the ballpark for okay and above nations? We're getting a patch/expansion and I wouldn't mind including topping that number off if we're low.

I'm a small business retail employee and I fucking hate people, interacting with them plus the very fact that they exist. And yet I vastly prefer diplomonstering to not.

Since we are on the subject on profession

/DOMG/

WHAT IS YOUR PROFESSION

EDUCATION IS FINE TOO

OR IF YOU ARE A NEET

>>160523013
>I fucking hate people, interacting with them plus the very fact that they exist
Do you main EA Vanheim?

>>160523013

That's because when you are diplomonstering people, you are fucking them.

You're fucking them and tearing down all they sought to build and spitting on their hope.

It takes a lot of the stress out of social interaction.

>>160523221
In the past I have been a teacher, but I've gone back to school to study ecology.

>>160522941
Just let people claim their nation in-thread and compile the final mod with only the chosen nations.

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>>160523221
corporate drone

>>160523238
MA Ermor, actually.

>>160523239
That's a good point, but I do get some honest feelgoods about allies and in-game friends.

Of course, I'll betray them if I have to but I'm not in a rush for that.

>>160523221
I am also a lawyer. I have diplomacied, but it's not something I am especially good at or enjoy. I do like discussing ongoing games.

I do not have a mistress.

>>160523221
Still studying

>>160523221
I'm a philosophy student, playing Dominions to forget the tragedy of my existence and my incoming unemployment.

I work holidays/weekends/whenever with tourism and sometimes a local museum.

>>160523221
NEET, 2 time college dropout (different colleges!)
not happily, but I'm not trying to fix the situation either
shoot me now

>>160523221

Code monkey.

>>160523618

I know a guy with a philosophy degree. Went to highschool with him. Probably one of the smartest guys I've ever met. He's doing alright for himself. He's currently employed as a trampoline maintenance technician.

>>160523418
As a bonus, this also lets you add in the lore.

This was how ScrubGenX was run, iirc

>>160523221

I work Servicedesk for my countrys police service, helping them with their IT and equipment and creating service reports for things I can't immediately help with. We also monitor

Usually shift-times, so I can sit around in a calm and quiet office in the middle of the night and take the occasional call, rest of the time watch movies or play games on my laptop. LIKE DOMINIONS 4, A GREAT GAME YOU MIGHT HAVE HEARD OF

>>160523834
>study philosophy
>end up working with something completely unrelated
Sounds about right.
Really though, I just want to end up doing something I don't hate.

>>160523221
part time groundskeeper. part time microbiology student.

>>160523834
Well, as long as his study of philosophy gave him the knowledge that allows him to live well, it doesn't matter how much money is needed for that.

The notion that education is only good for getting a job is dumb anyway, an artifact of the high fiscal cost of education in the US.

>be in a game with Ermor
>doth spy his pretender
>it's a dom 10 F9 dragon with standard Ermor scales
innovative
it's going to take him a lot of time to get to Dusk Elders though

>>160524348
use dragon to expand. empower a lab rat.

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>>160523221
Programmer.

>>160523618
Is it true you kidnap people and force them into thought experiments concerning life and death to boost the value and necessity of your profession?

>>160524193

A lot of jobs can be gained by just having a higher education, no matter which. I have a friend studying to be a Historian at a very prestigious university, he can pretty much get any kind of fairly good corporate job if he isn't able to secure a professorship.

>>160524671
Fat man: obvious lead
5 people on tracks: unknowning players
train: gang bang
guy pushing: malakal

Cmon guys just one or two more players and we can start

http://www.llamaserver.net/gameinfo.cgi?game=CastInTheNameOfBobYeNotGuilty

>>160523221
Chemical processing technician

Not as exciting or important as it sounds, I pretty much lug shit around all day and dump it into vats to make haircare products. Most of the factory has been 'modernised' and basically runs itself at this point, I can fuck around on my laptop for 20-30 minute chunks of time without anybody noticing/caring.

EZ life.

>>160525083

Will you get superpowers if you fall into one of the vats?

>>160525083
>for 20-30 minute
Try 6 out of my 8 hour day

>>160525083
If I ever wind up having to work at a burger joint to make ends meet, I'll call myself a chemical processing technician. After all, I'd be using high temperatures to process volatile chemicals with little in the way of workplace safety standards.

>>160523221
I'm a college student, studying information systems security. I have 24/7 access to a computer, and am unable to stop joining games.

>>160524714
That *very prestigious* part is important. I knew someone who went to Yale for some bullshit degree who is really well employed. They work with a consultant who was an honors history major at a top 30 school. Had they gone almost anywhere else they'd be a barista. You can have any degree if you go to a really good school. After that, it starts to matter.

>>160522537
Yeah, will roll this one back since multiple people apparently spent awhile scripting stuff.

And also because eventually my autocast juggernaut casters would domkill the world (eventually tm), so it is more fair to the others.

>>160523221
videogame designer here

everything is shit

>>160524671
>Is it true you kidnap people and force them into thought experiments
Of course not. But let me ask you something:

Let's say that I trapped a newborn in a basement and raised him into adulthood without ever letting him see the colour purple (or any colour for that matter). Furthermore I only fed him information about the outside world in the form of black and white media, and taught him everything we know about the physical characteristics of light and colour, would the captive learn something new upon release, as he sees purple for the first time?

The goyim know, shut it down!

>>160525083
>work in tourism during low season
>weekends so i'm the only one at work
>20-40 visitors in a 6 hour shit
>get paid for spending hours shitposting and listening to music
I should arrange it so I can do my turns while at work.

>>160526045
Llama says that if there aren't going to be any changes to the trn files, we don't need to resend the turn.

Is there any truth in this?

>>160523221
Perma-NEET with mild autism and a degree in computer science

>>160522941
How do I get in on this game. It seems memetastic.

>>160526194
>Perma-NEET with mild autism and a degree in computer science
How is it that you're unemployable with a degree in CS and only mild autism? You should have np doing at least contract code work

>>160526280

It's pretty regularly on 75% discount on Steam.

>>160526076
>would he learn something new
yes; at the very least, the visual appearance of purple and not just the descriptive (somehow) appearance of it
now what are the implications of me saying that

>>160526416
I'm terrible at handling stress and my parents gave up trying to get me to do something worthwhile

>>160526767
Lucky you.
I suffer not being autistic

>>160526075

Do you work for any big studio? Is it as much of a grind as it appears?

I studied compsci and was thinking of getting into gamedevelopment. But as I learned more of the industry it seemed highly depressing

>>160527000

He's a videogame designer.

He's probably unemployed.

>>160525132
No, I'd probably just be really fabulous and also really really dead because those things are pressurised and heated. You'd need to be retarded to fall in anyway.

>>160525625
I know right? I literally do manual labour. A college dropout could do my job if they had any upper body strength at all and could understand bullet points, and yet here I am being paid £9 an hour to piss away my entire workday and occasionally drag a sack of powder or a tank of distilled water around. Maybe I'll look at some pressure/temperature guages, or press a button to get a pre-set program started, then head right back to my comfy desk, put on some earmuffs to drown out the machine noises, and shitpost on my phone for 15 minutes until I need to do another thing.

It's great. I have an important sounding job title, a relatively comfortable quality of living, while doing little in the way of actual work/responsibility.

>>160527000

I have most of a degree in game design (yes really). I noped out of even finishing the bachelor's, that's how much of a shitshow it looked like from the outside. I can still draw, 3d model, rig models, do level design, know the formatting of design documents, etc.

>>160526075

I feel your pain.

>>160527000
>>160527161

Fun fact: There are more game design graduates in the UK each year than there are game design positions in the UK total.

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>>160526280
pastebin.com/da7Lgrhr

If you (or anyone else) wants a race that's not already generated, you (or anyone else) can reply to this post in the next ten minutes and I'll add it to the patch/expansion. I'd give you more time but I want to get this poll up before heading out.

>>160527351
Whats the word on the third atlantian race?

>>160527351
>no elves

i'm not going to play

>>160527235
£9 an hour is pretty poor wages for a college grad desu

>>160527000
No, I work for a relatively small indepedent studio, which has its pros and cons. The pay is total shit, but at least it's total chill and I can spend the whole day doing fuck-all if I don't have anything urgent to do. The crunch does creep, but it's relatively rarely. I also plan to branch out and make stuff on my own, though that would require getting my shit together finally.
From what I've heard from a guy who's worked for a major successful studio (not EA level, though) the grind there is indeed big - it chews so hard that most people don't last long there.

>>160527351
I'd like to see some tengu and 'advanced' humans

>>160527538
10.50 euro an hour i a pretty respectable wage where I come from.

>>160526767

How do you figure this life of yours will turn out? Will your parents accept your NEETdom forever? Will you still mooch off your parents when they retire and have a lot less income?

I say this because I was a NEET myself. I don't have autism, although I'm fairly sure my dad has some mild form of it considering how spergy he can be. I'd mooch off them for years. But I felt terrible about it. But I managed to get myself a job that worked out for me. Worked hard, and got a better position, and life is pretty comfy now.

You can help yourself, don't use your autism as an excuse not to.

>>160527471

http://www.llamaserver.net/gameinfo.cgi?game=CastInTheNameOfBobYeNotGuilty

Join this game instead.

You guys are killing me here. Just need three more. There's even room for Raghan Innovation.

>>160527681
It's only a bit above minimum wage in Berkeley

>>160527293

as I mentioned before, I did compsci, although mine had a focus for game development. Thankfully it was broad enough to be considered a general purpose compsci bachelors, so I was able to find general IT jobs with it.

>>160527765

Barely over minimum wage in Bongistan as well.

>>160527745
I'm thinking of joining but I'm a little reluctant to.

>>160527745
I'd play an EA game with or without summod, a summod MA game, a natgen game, or even another cata game, but I sure as fuck won't be joining a giant ass LA game. Fuuuck that.

>>160527351
If you don't mind generating for someone who isn't 100% sure they can honestly commit to the game I would be interested in Ogres.

>>160527235
9 GBP an hour is more than what 90% of my country makes

t. Machaka

>>160526576
>what are the implications of me saying that
Depends on the framing and context of the question, really.

The original (non-butchered) version of that question is a ontological argument of sorts.
Basically, it's an argument against the belief that the world is purely physical.
Proponents go as far as suggest that even if you gave the captive all possible physical information (including what's currently unknown to science), we would not be able to give him the information of what experiencing any physical thing is like, meaning that there's a type of knowledge or information that's not physical. And if there's things that aren't physical, then the world can't be purely physical.

That particular way to view it is obviously controversial, but you could use it as a linguistic argument.

Let's say that we give the captive all information that's possible to express through the language of physics. If we again assume that he'd learn something new upon release, we now merely mean that there's something we can learn that's cannot be expressed by the natural sciences.
Some use that as an argument that the "language of science" cannot (at least not in it's current form) express all forms of information about the world.

But it's actually kind of a wide subject, which many applications of the same general topic, having to do with ontology, epistemology, and the philosophy of mind.

how 'good' a wage is isn't absolute - wages in my country are pretty high, but the cost of living is insanely high - people here making 10 USD/hour are totally fucked over working poor.

>>160527538
You're right, it's not particularly good pay, but I live alone with no mortgage or rent, so my outgoing costs aren't high either. My piddly £9 wage more than supports my comfortable lifestyle. I'm content to live a perfectly unimpressive life if it means I can take it easy and not be hassled by anybody.

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And that's that. Our expansion races will be the 4th Atlantian choice, Advanced Humans, and Ogres. Tengu are a possibility but I want to see what we get before promising it. Elves were also sort of half called but I need an explicit "I want elves" before moving forward.

Look forward to a third download link in the next XX hours.

>>160527463
The fourth Atlantian race will probably be the Vits.

>>160527471
If you write that you want elves, I'll generate elves.

>>160527651
Advanced humans? 100% going. We'll see about the Tengu after I generate a few.

>>160527898
The only thing I lose by giving you Ogre choices is a few minutes of generating time.