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Wild Hunt isn't a Waagh! Mechanic You Fucks Edition.

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Are we getting Wood elf waifus?
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H-hey guys, what's going on? G-glad we'll finally be able to see each other on the 8th for some regenerating, no-armor, splash damage monstrous action, r-right? I mean, the DLC IS 20 bucks after all. CA wouldn't fink out and dash everyone's hopes about the last remaining unfinished army, would they? SURELY not CA!

Yours,
Demoghorgon, prince of poopee
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>trade off between better armies or "Winning the game"
>implying any of us actually go to victory conditions and dont just quit once the game gets boring.

Unless there is a special cutscene the choice is easy.
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>magical cavalry
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>Morghur FreeLC lord starting in Athel Loren and Lore of Life / Jade Wizard for Empire
>360 fire and shooting on the move.
>Can only build buildings in Athel Loren, a bunch of shit elsewhere.
>Picking between Orion and Durthu completely changes how you build your armies.
>super sniper hero (LUMBERFOOTS).
>New campaign set in Athel Loren.
>This fucking beautiful as fuck start location.
>All those cool units
>Fall of Man style ending battle.
>All that other shit on the steam page.

Holy fuck i'm hyped.

Why is it still three weeks away?
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My only fear is that the wood elf campaign will be too easy for an understander
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>>160437378
who lead Vaul's anvil, crag halls of Findol and the bottom land?
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I'm hype for NEET elves
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>>160437747
Vaul, Findol and a mad fuck
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>>160437553
I bet you can't micromanage for shit never mind work a ranged infantry based army like a Hun army whilst handling magic as well. 9 times out of 10 wood elfs will get fucked online.
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>>160437874
Wood Elves are perfect for meme compositions
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So what's the next historic total war in a couple of years?
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I hate to admit it but Warhammer made Total War great again, they made all this cash and already have the history one planned out
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>>160435098
Where did you get the 4k screenshot?
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>>160438170
leak points to a 'Victoria Total War'. Not sure if that is good or not though a railway system would be great for moving armies across continents etc which was a massive issue in Empire.
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>>160438467
Sure karl franz is our Trump.
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Get a load of these faggots
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>>160439453
>shitting on charlemagne
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>>160439536
Charlemagne was great, but it wasn't too in depth. They could've expanded the factions a lot more and it would've been nice to have more objectives like building cathedrals, aiming for a relationship with the pope or spreading paganism. Sure the ideas were there but they weren't manifested as gameplay. Warhammer has spoilt us in that regard, this new oak of ages objective looks very interesting.
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>>160439453
Let the whine
Meanwhile the dlcs keep being a success
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>"Wood Elves won't quite be the last, but it'll be the biggest."

Well fuck.
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>Lore of Shadow and Life in a single patch.

Neato
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>>160442683
So they better announce that new expansion soon.
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>>160443784
New World sequel around the time as the Old World edition. February.

I'm guessing we'll get one more Lord pack or something in January.
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>>160442959
Hope the empire/vampires get their hands on those lores quickly and not in some rivalry pack or something
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>>160445446
The FLC array has a new empire hero alongside the new lores, so that's a no given like the lore of beasts.

Who knows about the vamps though.
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>>160445446
considering how Lore of Life seems to be the antithesis to death, why do vamps get it?
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Hi everyone.

Just a friendly reminder here that this little rapegoat almost destroyed the entire wood elven species by doing literally nothing.
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keep rollan
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>>160446432

>fucking pontus

Okay, tell me. What is /twg/s deal with Pontus. I keep seeing this meme all the time but what does it mean.
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>>160446345
Playing as him and burning the Oak of Ages with invincible Chaos Spawn is going to be so sweet.
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is there any way to stop rome 2 from running in the background when you close it?
besides manually going into the task manager and closing it
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>>160445862
Empire would get life and shadows, vamps would only get shadows (on their vampires, necromancers.. etc.). Poorly worded.
Technically vampires can take anything EXCEPT life through forbidden lores as I recall but that doesn't really matter
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>"The Wood Elves have unique tech trees..."
heh
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>>160446675

Somehow beastmen are going to be so much more enjoyable to play.
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>almost a month away

Why is this allowed
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G... guys, that interview

They are willing to add everyfucking race in a clusterfuck of a giant map

g... guys please.. help me, I won't be able to come back to /his/ after this
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>>160448235
They announced the combined trilogy when the game was first announced. All 16 races are coming, and so are a hundred other factions and hundreds of units.

I hope you have a fucking supercomputer.
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>>160448235
>clusterfuck
This is the best part.

Now if they would only make better maps.
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>>160448235

Doubt they will make one single fuckhuge map. That would hit perfomance something fierce.
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>>160448418
they said it, for fucks sake. WHY
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>>160435098
Threadly reminder
Athel Toralien
Sith Rionnasc
Kor Vanaeth
Athel Maraya
Athel Numiel
Tor Alessi
Thank you
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So I guess without Wood elves getting seasons introduced that means we might not see any of the other proposed mechanics getting introduced with other factions like pestilence with skaven or a food mechanic with ogres.

What do you think?
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For people wondering how Wood Elves will play, 1d4chan has a pretty good section on tactics for each of the tabletop factions giving a run down of what units are and how they're supposed to be used. It's obviously not a 1:1 translation to TWW but it's still handy if you know nothing about a faction and want to learn roughly how they're supposed to work.

https://1d4chan.org/wiki/Warhammer/Tactics/8th_Edition/Wood_Elves
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>Wood Elf army is a micromanaging oriented one
Wood Elf AI factions confirmed for dying off sooner than beastmen
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>>160437378

>Alliance with Karak Norn
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>>160446345
>Literally PooPooPeePee: The Lord
>The dreaded, overflowing pissjug that all NEETs fear
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Get on in here
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>>160444784

>Next game in February

Nigger you fucking delusional.

We'll be lucky if we get it March/April
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>>160448235
Which interview?
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It's good that CA are being more ambitious with DLC and campaign design
It bodes well for the other content that's yet to come, the only problem is that it makes the vanilla stuff look quite tame in comparison
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>>160448875
He said announced

ANNOUNCED YOU STUPID FUCKING NIGGER

THAT MEANS IT WOULDN'T COME OUT IN FEBRUARY

WE WOULD GET THE ANNOUNCEMENT, THEM SHOWING OFF THE NEW GAME IN FEBRUARY

FUCKING ILLITERATE
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>>160448869

rollan
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>>160449001
SUMMON
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>>160448875
Wood Elves is the biggest DLC they're going to be doing for this game, which means nothing but small shit for the rest of the cycle.

The cycle won't be another half year with that kind of policy. Remember that the New Content team haven't been working on the new game, they've had a massive team working on it since May.
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Why did they make Volkmar so fucking shit?
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>>160449038
DA WAAAAAGH!
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>>160449045

>Wood Elves is the biggest DLC they're going to be doing for this game

Which means they could still cram in a race pack that doesn't include a campaign, like the ones they've announced they were doing way back when they told us how they're handling DLC
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>>160448869
Rolling as well
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>tfw we soon get to bring death to Athel Loren
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FUN WOOD ELF FACT: Assuming they're staying faithful to the tabletop all Wood Elf spears and bows will be AP weapons to represent their uncanny accuracy.
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>No lizardmen DLC announced
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>>160449370
HOLY FUCK DAWI B T F O

DAY OF THE SHAVE SOON
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>>160437378
>Karak Norn allies

TRAITOR DAWI
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>>160449370
I want to see some stats
If they really are all squishy as hell they should hit like a truck
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What's likely to be the last bit of DLC before the expansion?
Army painter?
Minor faction getting fleshed out, like Kislev (seems unlikely)?
Legendary heroes?
Something that isn't DLC at all and just includes some campaign improvements for the vanilla factions?
None of the above?
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>>160449868
Legendary heroes probably
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SO...uhhh Bretonnia when? Fucking has been half done since release. JUST GIVE IT TO US YOU GREEDY FUCKS
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>>160449930
Hopefully they'll re-balance all LL.

There's no reason at all to take a normal Lord, aswell as some LL like Kemmler and most vanilla LL are useless compared to the FLC and DLC ones.
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>The Wild Hunt is here

I am hype
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>>160448235
We've known this since BEFORE the game launched anon. Are you new here?
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If I decline an ambush will my army go back into ambush stance and be able to ambush whoever passes next? Playing Legendary Rome 2 and Carthage pushed its 5 stack across my route before moving its 2 full stacks.
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>>160450072

What's wrong anon? +5% Campaign movement not good enough for you?
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>>160448418
That's what the switch to DX12 and 64bit is for, in principle
And, if they can get this clusterfuck to work, the benefits will show in later games too
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>>160450072

Yeah, Vlad changed the game entirely. What's that, a army-wide Vanguard buff? Sure as fuck beats some measly 5-10% campaign movment buff, or a equal percent reduction in upkeep for some units.
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Today is finally the day
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What is the fucking point?
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>>160450278

>>160450386
I have no problem with shit like that, but the problem is compared to other LL he's insanely good.

Atleast Skarsnik/Ghorst share the same poison shit, but Grombrindal is fucking insane and I'm worried about the general game if it continues this way.
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>>160449416
Don't overuse that, it'll lose it's potency if you can't get a fairly big amount of 'wat's each time from people who have yet to see it..
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>>160450525
To make it slightly easier to sue for peace if you're losing a war.
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>>160450525
Making factions less likely to declare war on you. I got it pretty early, and managed to avoid more than one war with Empire factions, so that they all became friendly when I fought chaos. Then I could pick them off at my leisure while spreading corruption.
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What are the best skills for Grombrindal? Like the skills leading to lightning strike. Most of them seem pretty good.
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>When you should be reclaiming your ancestor hold Karak Eight Peaks but instead settle grudges in Bretonnia.
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>>160450951

Max combat skills
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>>160451048
Yes, I figure he's a combat beast, but I usually get lightning strike first to make reinforcements fuck off.
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>>160448856
So /r9k/ vs /jp/?
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>>160448869
Vlad von Carstein
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>>160451005
>When your holds are so fortified, the greenskin AI doesn't know what to do with its armies.
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>>160451353
More like mannlet von carstein
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>>160448869
rollan
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>>160451401
DELET THIS

RAISE THIS
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>>160450951
I like both army movement and +exp because they're faction wide, then some red skills before combat. He doesn't really need max combat skills, because he's sufficiently good already.
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>>160441395
>his new oak of ages objective looks very interesting.
its literally what the slavs had to do in Attila
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time to play a literally who faction! i dig the colour scheme
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>>160452087
>not using Southern Realms
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>>160451981
>expecting me to play as the squat monkeys

It's practically brand new
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>>160448680
>>160449532
How do you know they're allies?
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god dammit marius
I don't know who's grudging who anymore
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>>160452403
The alliance icon next to their settlements?
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>>160438170
I'm oping Pike and Shot, but I doubt it since that would be best for the start date for a new Empire or somethng
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>>160452631
Maybe the symbol means something different? Maybe it's a "grudge settled" icon?
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Tilean king looks pretty badass though
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>Treeman Ancients now exclusively use the Lore of Beasts instead of exclusively using the Lore of Life

I do not understand this chance.

Also, why did they switch the words around, was it really worth the effort of changing "Treeman Ancients" into "Ancient Treemen"?
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>>160448418
They replied to my question n twitter once saying that the maps would 'fit together like a jigsaw' not sure if that means all-in-one or not
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>>160450072
Aint Mannfred still better than Vlad in magic and Kemmler in combat?
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>>160453201
Because Durthu uses the Lore of Beasts. I guess they wanted consistency.
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Btw, how's Helman Ghorst?
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>>160453704
Fun. Poison zombies are the ultimate tarpit.
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>mfw elf lovers post in this thread
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>>160452289

As far as I can tell it works like negative ward save for enemies, so you do 20% more damage to them.

I have no way to confirm that though, so I could be wrong.
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>>160452403
Blue outline around the province
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>>160446550
Once upon a time /twg/ was full of historical autists. One of them splerged out so much when he learned that the free pre-order DLC was Pontus instead of Sparta that it became a meme.
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>>160453936
>mfw killing elgi soon
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>>160448418
They might do it like they did Empire. And by the time the trilogy is complete even toaster PC will be beasts.
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>>160453812
How's he on the power level compared to the other VC LL's?
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>>160454335
I can't wait for WE vs Dwarf multiplayer battles
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MK6TXMsvgQg
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>>160454672
I honestly have no idea how dorfs will contend with the NEET elves whn they can barely chase after chaos warriors
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>>160454642
>TOP TIER
vlad

>HIGH TIER
mannlet

>NOT QUITE AS HIGH TIER
ghorst

>power gap

>another power gap

>third power gap

>dogshit tier
the fourth power gap (heh...... gotcha kid.....)

>kemmler tier
kemmler
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>>160454301
>no exposed thigh

ruined
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why are the dwarf and elf posters so autistic? literally nobody else gets this obsessed with roleplaying as those faggots

I know that elf hate is a /tg/ meme, but why specifically elf, and why by dwarfes? why not gobbo hate, or chaos roleplayers?
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Is there a way to remove the untouchable ambassador asshole unit things? They completely fuck up the game for me and I'd enjoy it without them.
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>>160454929
Have you never met an elf player? It's not a meme, they are insufferable ego monsters.
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>>160454754
I told you before, quarellers.
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>>160455101
I have pretty much zero friends, especially tabletop playing type, so no, never met any

but logically I'd expect chaos players to be the most annoying
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>>160454929

Elf players are usually weebs and the instrospective kind of faggots.

Dwarf players are usually fatty bearded faggots that love Nordic mythology

Those 2 dont mix
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>>160455043
The what? Which game are they in, for starters?
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>>160455043
Do you mean agents? There are mods to disable hostile agent actions for the AI which basically neuters them. Search for "No Aggressive Agent" on the steam workshop.
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>>160455149

What makes you believe that quarellers can outshoot WE archers again?

I mean, its THE ranged faction kid
Undisputed best archers in the fucking old world and even beyond.

Half of their roster is ranged units.
Their ranged units can chase your ranged units while shooting at your bearded asses.
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>>160455191
>but logically I'd expect chaos players to be the most annoying
Elf players are worse.
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>>160455339
Sit your quarrelers/thunderers down and let them take the incoming lanklet arrrows, block with their shields, and return fire with superior dawi missiles
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>>160455339
They have no artillery. That is the key to grudging them effectively.
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>>160437378
Were the borders always colored like that or is that new?
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>>160455149

>lets try to kill the ranged faction in a ranged contest.

kek
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>about to finish off Todshitter to finish Beastie campaign
>some neutral tribe snipes him

What an epic end to a great campaign
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>>160455101
No, but on the internet dorfags sure look more insufferable, you can almost smell this bunch of neckbeards patting each other in the back while circlejerking about how cool and manly they are compared to the others. It doesn't help that the elves being hated are usually a meme that doesn't even exist outside of memetic images. Compared to that elf wank is pretty much business as usual.

Dorf wank is the worst thing on /tg/
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>>160455414

AOE damage arrows
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>>160455339
>Their ranged units can chase your ranged units while shooting at your bearded asses.
Dawi engineering > lanklets
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>be me
>be in big city
>thing maybe there is a GW here
>find it
>go in ask for total war code
>they give me one
>ask if there could give me a second one for a friend
>no proplem
>remeber having no friends
free grombrindal code
MRZXD-34YCZ-P4MYL
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>>160455639

What are those dwarves riding again?
Are those .... goats?
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>>160455616
...are stated to be most effective against masses of lightly armoured troops. Quarellers ain't lightly armoured.
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>>160455191
I'm a /tg/ guy so let me tell you how it goes.

All Warhammer players are autistic, old men who play in private garage playgroups or they're obese and smell terrible

Ork and Khorne players have a screw loose they like shouting their catch phrases and get damn annoying

Elf players tend to be older players who have kids and are being nagged by the wife via text between turns.

Dwarf players are old men without kids who often own the garage. Usually very fat and like a drink during the game but don't cause any problems.

Undead players are mostly goth kids who forgot to dress up.

Every one else just sort of blends into the autistic mass, but I can answer questions directed at me if requested.
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>>160454872
What? Is Kemmler that bad? He seems ok on paper, though I've only played with Mannboy.
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>>160455640

okay
Who was the motherfucker who got this fast?
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>>160455640
Thanks Anon, i can be your friend! Even if only for the evening
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>>160455741
Respect the horns!
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>>160455308
Yes. The fact that I can put an army on top of them and they just walk away like nothing happened pisses me off.
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>Marienburg's castle defenses don't work at all
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>>160455939
Agents can only be interacted with by other agents. You have a variety of actions, depending on which agent you're using; assassination, conversion, restricting movement, bribery, and so on. Armies can't do anything to them, except move away and hope they don't get followed.
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>>160455939
Heh, back in medieval 2 (and possibly rome 1) you actually could squash agents with an army if you placed a unit on every grid square around them first so they had nowhere to move to. Best way of getting rid of asshole inquisitors.
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>>160455820
Tell us about Skaven players.
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>>160455339
>asrai longbow: 30" range
>dwarf crossbow: 30" range

gee golly gosh how on earth could they ever possibly compete?
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>>160455741
Mountain goats you git
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>>160456182

You faggots can theorize all you want.
When push comes to shove, quarrelers won't beat elves just like boar boyz don't beat blood knights.
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>>160456127
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>>160456304
I literally quoted the tabletop rules, anon. Dwarfs and Wood Elves have the same range.
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>>160456415

And yet they lose to wood elves.
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rip todshitter
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>>160456049
Which is fucking stupid.
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>>160456503

I got the feeling that CA didn't calculate the size of that boar carriage correctly
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>>160456127
Skaven players tend to be quirky like Chaos players are. They're the heavy metal pot head types who like swarm armies rather than elite armies. Pretty harmless if you're not offended by the smell of pot.
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>>160449416
They are 2nd expansion after HElves and DElves.
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>>160456801

I can't wait to take back all that old world clay with HElves
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>>160456571
No, it's a common bug which they still haven't fixed. In the battle preview scene characters are always scaled incorrectly, which is pretty hilarious when Kholek is fifty feet tall.
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>>160456506
Non agressive agent mod is mandatory to enjoy this game unless we can kill them with armies.
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>>160456837
Tyrion, Teclis and Allariele as starting LLs.
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So does this mena we're not getting High Elves?
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>>160456932
No. We're not getting high elves.
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>>160456882
>not raising 2 super rambo agents to lvl 30 and always have them killing enemy agents while going to war


plebs
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>>160450757
>>160449416
Someone needs to make a webm of the part where they get him drunk and make a Christ sculpture out of him
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>>160456932
Yes, we're getting not high elves.
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>>160456932

Maybe we are getting High elves
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>the highest tier mount Todbringer can get is a barded horse

Well thats fucking gay
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>>160456631
what about tomb kings
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...Is orion supposed to look so fat?
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>>160457196
Got squatted, were never very popular because people like the Vampire counts side of the undead and didn't want Wood elves undead. As such they never had much of a personality.
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>>160455639
the fuck
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>>160454754
Mass artillery
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>>160456394
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>Brets get 3 LL's.
>Wood elves only get 2.
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>>160438773
>>160438467
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i have 9$ in steam which dlc should I buy for warhammer?
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SUUSH
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>raiding him for 20 turns
>can't bait him into coming over here

fite me 1v1 pussi ole
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>>160457592
And who the fuck play brets? They only got LeQuirk and Pegging Knoights.
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>>160457698
Nation pack: Israel
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>>160456631
>Skaven players tend to be quirky like Chaos players are
I USED to be quirky and still play Chaos but I'll give you that
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>>160457592
>Brets get 3 LL's.
Source
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>>160455639
what the fuck I don't remember that part at all
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Can some autist or /tg/fag tell me why the based looking elf man in nice nature armor turns into a pretty horsemanfly?

Aren't they enemies of the beastmen?
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>>160457894
Modern Chaos and old Chaos is very different.
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>>160457909
Google Total War Old World Edition.
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>Squiq herd in charge of not being fucking stupid
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>>160457592
>Brets get 3 LLs, one of whom is a grill
>Wood elves get 2 LLs, one of whom is a goat-chad
Based CA fighting the good fight.

>>160457803
>who the fuck plays the best faction
Such an odd question, anon.
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>>160457968
Your brain is programmed to automatically remove trauma
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>>160456460
Dwarfs have artillery

You lose elfboi
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>>160457990
Older players overall were metalheads though I'd say
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>>160457809

>tfw eugen systems literally doing nation packs
>still no half decent campaigns
>still no grand campaign

worse of feels
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>the Wild Hunt BUCK-ons

Did anyone else hear this in the trailer?

The new meme is that Orion makes shitty dad puns.

>Hey baby, I'm gonna make you an honorary Wood Elf, because I wanna see your Ass-rais
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>>160458079
>vanguard deploys army behind you
Nuthin personal Dawi
>Blocks out the sun with a million arrows
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>>160457987
You're not making sense faggot.

>>160458135
Metal fans were part of the core demographic of fantasy and sci fi at the time. It's only recently that they have become divorced from each other.
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>>160458073
please, I really don't remember that, was it a deleted scene? Jesus christ
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>>160457739
They'll never willingly go out of cities to attack beastmen. You have to do some gay shit and do a hidden encampment
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>>160458009
>The Fay Enchantress is the mortal representative of the Lady of the Lake. She is the most influential person in the whole realm of Bretonnia

Holy fuck the Bretonnian king is a cuck
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>>160458072
>Brets is best faction

Is it opposite day already? I totally forgot the date.
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I want to be dominated by a best elf!
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>>160458073
Too bad lobotomizing autists isn't legal anymore
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How do I beat Orcs in multiplayer as Dwarves? Fuckers have everything they need.
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>>160457987

It's a ritual, every spring a wood elf prince (Based elf man) goes into the oak of ages and gets transformed into an avatar of Orion, the god of the hunt (Pretty horsemanfly). Then he goes on the wyld hunt or w/e with his neet elves and then when it's winter he returns to the oak of ages and burns up. To repeat the cycle next spring.
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>>160455639
What the fug am I looking at :DDD
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How do waargh mechanics work as the player? Is the extra army AI?
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>>160457987
>Wood Elves worship a husband/wife pair of gods called Kurnous (hunting and wildlife) and Isha (nature and life).
>Wood elf rulers are elvish avatars of these two gods, with Isha's avatar being a butterfly elf lady called Ariel who sits around in a tree all the time.
>Kurnous' avatar is called Orion.
>Every year, a suitable elf lord candidate goes into Ariel's tree and gets turned into Orion.
>Orion is a demigod whose primary personality is a fusion of the god Kurnous and the chosen elf-lord, while previously sacrificed elf-lords hang around inside his head like a greek choir
>At the beginning of winter, Orion is burned on a funeral pyre, restarting the cycle.
>As a result of basically being a different person each year, Orion can be everything from noble and just to batshit crazy and tyranical.
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>>160458254
She's a god retard. This is a world where legends walk the Earth and their kingdom is built around this ancient spirit with incredible powers.
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>>160458173
While campaigns could provide lots of fun, it all comes down to the AI being pretty terrible. It's a shame because the risk-style campaign maps, the situations changing during the conflicts and having to use what forces you have and plan accordingly instead of just using the most effective decks are great.
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>>160458401
Franz wouldnt be trumped by a some girl pretending to be a god

Brets are living in the cuckshed
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I just reinstalled Napoleon TW. What is the best overhaul: LME. NTW3, or Darthmod?
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>>160458515
Whatever mod you download you'll get bored in about 2 hours
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>>160458245
He is playing as fantasy spics, not beastmen
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>>160458559
well I have ~250 hours already on vanilla and darthmod so I doubt it
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>>160458614
What's the difference?
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It is now Official. Athel Loren is radiant in its resplendence. Delicate young boys cavort for the delight of their mistresses, and the luminescence of sprites and pixies flicker through the enchanted wood. The Sisters of Twilight languorously uncurl from their embrace; panpipes flute a tune of merriment throughout the halls of the summerstrand. The diverting indignities of gorposting and Deep-Thinking Goblins are a receding memory, a windblown fragment of the season past. All Asrai make ready for frolic and improductivity; indolence is the watchword, and none can be found but are feverishly, zealously committed to inactivity.

From the Oak of Ages, the Eternal Queen watches and is warmed by the celebrations of her people. In such a festive air, Orion's rebirth cannot but be imminent; Ariel's handmaidens ceaselessly weave flowers into her hair, presenting an endless procession of styles and and aspects by which their beloved monarch might greet her consort. Those that retain a sense of time and worldly events look to his arrival; Naieth's divinations serve only to confirm what the jubilant atmosphere of the forest makes evident.

Wood Elves Confirmed.
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>>160458401
There is a world where legends walk the Earth and they choose to live like a cuck
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>that price tag
Bastards, I knew when they made this game I was going to end up spending three times the games base price on DLC.
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>>160458975
Wood elves are for beastmen cock.
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>the welfs will not have the scottish LUMBAHFOOTS accent in-game
>they will have the generic 'RARGH' voice that every human being alive had in rome 2, attila and in the empire in warhammer
kill me boys
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>>160459246
truly suffering, no waifu LL either
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So how are they going to make sure the eagle-riders aren't hilariously broken?

Shit defense? One-shotted by gobbo archers?
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>>160459534
low morale so they run away once engaged in melee
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>>160459139

Haven't bothered playing Beastmen yet

They include Morghur yet?

Because fluff-wise that's kind of a huge oversight
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>>160459102
Prepare your butt for 250 or so for the entire game including all expansions and DLC
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>>160459534
They'll probably be slightly more powerful gyrocopters to make up for the lack of a bomb. Which is to say basically impotent.
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What will The Green Knight's special bonuses be?
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>>160459246
It's ok, as long as THE EMPIRE, ENDURES!
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>>160458231
extendet cut
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>>160459728

>Gave in willingly

I've said it once I'll say it again, this author is a retard
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>>160455639

>not including something that took that much money and effort in the original goddamn movie

I really wish I liked those more than I did but shit like this is why

>>160459974

Shouldn't she be eating his soul or something?
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>>160437378
>Athel Loren is too small for 5 cities they said
>you're wrong anon they said

Who's laughing now, faggots?
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>>160459794
>kill them
>raise them
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>>160459102
>3 times
Uh, anon its going to be well over 3 times

The standalones are going to be as much as the base game, so ignoring all other DLC thats already $180
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>>160458975
Of course, given the homosexual tendencies amongst elfish males, it is no wonder that the womenfolk of Athel Loren seek solace by wrapping their luscious lips around the hardened shafts of beastmen gors, dwarf woodloggers, and the occasional bretonnian questing knight.
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>>160460128

>We want to rape da elfs

>NO RAPE IS WRONG!

>Fill all the elfs with aphrodesiacs instead and then fuck them only after their will is broken?

>Yah that's cool

what.
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>>160460208
>Shouldn't she be eating his soul or something?

Nope, the author's super duper self insert is perfect and immune to anything
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>>160460208
He fucked her into submission.

It's the only somewhat entertaining part of an otherwise awful comic.

>>160460128
It wouldn't even be that bad if the MC didn't also act morally superior to the goblins who just fashioned good old fashioned bend-her-over-and-fuck-her rape.
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>>160458469
Lady of the Lake is an Elf god
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>>160460475
Well, correction: it would still be awful, but it wouldn't be quite as rage-inducing.
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>>160460494

How come she likes da' humies then and not the elfs?
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TOTAL WAR MULTIPLAYER TIER LIST:

Vampire counts
Bretonnia
Empire
Greenskins
Dwarfs
Beastmen
Warriors of Chaos
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>>160460494
End Times isn't canon
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>flying ranged units that can shoot while moving
You better play the MP now, because in 3 weeks its going to be impossible to win unless you're a tree hugging hippie
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>>160459728

>Four more elves gave in willingly today

>two females

wait what happened to the males
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>>160460732
Because elves are arrogant hippies who'd rather sit around and talk about their feelings than go out and kill beastmen in her name.
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>>160460840
What do you think?
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>>160460816
>play vampires
>eat them with flying monsters
wew
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>>160460816

>implying ranks of Dorf rangers won't be feasting on giant eagle drumsticks tonight

You are silly
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>>160460816

Yeah because we totally didn't have those before
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>>160460840
Female gobbos have perfectly consensual not-at-all date rape drug sex with them.
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>>160460816
I'll just play dwarfs and shoot them to death with quarrelers and bolt throwers. while sitting inside my hugbox.
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>>160460816
Gyrochoppers when?
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>>160460997
We dont. You colossal twat.
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>>160461041
>>160460968
>Ill beat those ranged units with my own ranged units!
>Even though they have less range, and dont have ammo types, and deal less damage, and are slower
dis is gonna be gud
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>>160461308
>bolt throwers
>less range
ebin
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>>160460774
t.the lady
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>>160461308
>Even though they have less range ... and deal less damage, and are slower

Source: your ass.
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>>160461441
>Bringing arty to MP
How to spot the campaign casual; the post
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>>160461597
Multiplayer is for casuals since it relies on specific builds to win
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>>160460774
>the empire endures
>except when it fucked died and got blown up
Empire is gone, Brettonia is dead and buried.
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How strong is Morghor lorewise?
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>>160461539
You realize Warhammer is a tabletop game, and we have the rules on it right? You also know that the ingame units are accurate to the TB rules, right?

In one or another category dwarfs are outclassed by wood elves ranged units.
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>>160461685
That was good bait, you almost got me.
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>New Story Campaign: The Season of Revelation
Set across a beautiful and highly-detailed campaign map of Athel Loren and the surrounding Duchies of Breton, The Season of Revelation is playable as either Durthu or Orion, the Wood Elves’ two Legendary Lords. This campaign tasks the player with uniting Athel Loren in the face of Bretonnian incursions and, later, from a series of fearsome, climactic attacks by the Beastman warlord Morghur, and his corrupted bray-herds.

>still can only play as one faction

Did they hear none of the complaints about eye for an eye?
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>>160460732
Nobody likes elves in general.

They act like elitist posh retards without a single trace of bravery or balls.

They are all the bad sides of autism personified.
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>>160461978
>Did they hear none of the complaints about eye for an eye?
They heard the complaints clearly

Then they said 'Shut the fuck up and buy the DLC anyway' and you did
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>>160461978
Both Durthu and Orion lead different factions.
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>>160438485
What leak?
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>>160461597
Let me help you out
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Counter-battery_fire
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>>160460768
Brets over Empire and Greenskins. Are you tactically retarded?

Brets are in the bottom 4 at least.
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>>160462126
You need reading comprehension lessons kiddo
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>>160462126
Hello sp babby
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>>160462345
>Wahh he shot my demigryphs with a cannon its not fair!
>>
>it's a /twg/ pretends to truly understand strategy episode
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>>160461891
He's not wrong
>Call most effective builds cheese and complain when you lose to them
>Claim that there aren't a few builds that beat the rest
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>>160459659
More like $250 for each game/expansion.

They still have like 2 more race DLCs and 4 more campaign DLCs for this game. Three more races if they don't include the Chaos as a race pack.

So this game is easily going to be upwards of $200.

Then they have two more planned expansions, each of which is going to be just as much DLC bullshit.
>>
HAHAHHA here we GO again, another round of stale memes and shitposting.
another round of tomb kangz,meme rats, meme elves, meme goblins, meme squigs, AHHHH rome, le ebin vlad, and etcetera.

I'm fucking tired of this general, you autists are the absolute bane of this board, holy shit I would stomp every single one of you meme spouting neckbeards in a second with my bare hands.
For the love of god stop posting these memes, I'm tired, I just want to discuss Total War and not have to scroll trough a wall of memes.
Enough is enough.
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>>160463058
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>>160463058
Here's a pic of lewd /polo/ to calm you down
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>>160462148
Nah brets are great in multiplayer as long as you spam infantry and archers and don't take their shitty cav
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Quick, post carpets
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>>160463220

A nice welcome mat for visitors to my castle.
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>>160461978
It's part of Wood Elf history. The mini campaigns are all historical events in Warhammers past.
----------------

Also what fucking retard didn'tt use the catalog and made ANOTHER general whilst this one is still active.
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Guys, we have a problem

Wood Elves have no way to deal with walled settlements and unlike vamps don't have the healing to tank out tower damage. There's also the problem that towers can shoot at hidden units
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So what will the 2nd game's 4th race be? Amazons? Nippon?
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In honour of the Season of Revelation campaign and the much more detailed and larger campaign map of Athel Loren and the Bretonnian duchies nearby. Another piece of Warhammer history this time for the Asrai.

Here it is from the 8th edition armybook

1/2
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>>160461978
>muh narrative campaign
>"wut u mean u wnt 2 play as boris and forest gobbos? campaign iz bout beastmen not gobbos!"
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>>160463865
Tree things can bust down the gates and rape everything past them.
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>>160463865
>Dragons
>Giant treemen
>Super archers
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>>160463220
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>>160463968
2/2
>>160463881
Skaven. That way Skaven will then be active in both New and Old if the two games are installed together.
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>>160463730
That doesn't mean we shouldn't be able to alter history

I mean what kind of retarded shit would it be if the Peloponnesian War minicampaign only let you play as Sparta?
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Just got the KW pack and booted up a Skarsnik campaign, what sort of opening move am I looking to make once I've got my full Skarsnik stack? Karak Norn is pretty intimidating with a garrison + halfstack and a full stack in the underway just waiting to push my village in if I decide to get ballsy.
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>>160464006
>>160464035

Dumbasses, you're gonna lose half your army if you have them staying still to fire at shit the whole time.

The faction already has small units sizes, how the fuck is anyone gonna come out of a siege attack without being vulnerable as fuck to retaliation by an army that isn't half-wiped
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Can WE take norse settlements?
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>>160462126

>not using archaon the everchosen

>ever

why.
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>>160464050
what map? I want to have fun sieges
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>>160464050
That is some good shit
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>>160463865
>Dragons
>Mounted archers
>FUCKING TREEMEN TO TEAR DOWN WALLS AND GATES
>Fast units to storm walls.
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>>160464145
Just autoresolve every battle like you do with every other faction
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>>160464157
Constantinople
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>>160464146

They can take ANY settlements.

Read: ANY

>>160464227

You can't attack walls with melee units you retard, and your fast units will get completely fucking trying to climb walls cause they have shitty melee stats. The units with good melee can't climb the fucking things.

>>160464241

Can't autoresolve against garrison+fullstack you idiot
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>>160464128
As stated a long time ago in a blog around February. History is our plaything as no one owns history so we can change it. GW owns Warhammer history. They are very stringent on this.
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>>160464098
Isn't the Skaven capital in the Old World? Plus that lord(Queek?) that would have start near K8P to fight over it with Belegar and Skarsnik. It seems like they would be stretched really thin with at least 2 of their legendary lords starting in the Old World.
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>>160464335

>They can take ANY settlements.

>Read: ANY

Citation needed
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>>160461798
Do you? have you even read the rules you're talking about?

>Less range
Looks the same to me
>Less damage
Dwarf crossbow has higher STR so no, not really.
>Slower
They fire the same amount of times per round.

You're literally acting smug as fuck while talking out of your ass.
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So as wood elves you can capture anything, but it makes the most sense to capture forest settlements

Also

>wonder victory

Nani?
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>>160464421
they can take any settlement but they can only build like 1 building in it
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>>160464303

>trying to storm Constantinople

>ever

Literally why
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>>160464335
Treemen aren't classed as melee senpai.
They are classed ingame as "Woodland Spirits"
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>>160464447
Forgot pic.
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>>160464372
>nigger workshop is to blame

If that's the case then why is it possible to kill Grimgor as the Dorfs?

>>160464384
Clan Pestilens, Clan Queek (forgot his clan name) and Skavenblight would all be different subfactions. Clan Moulder would start up in Norsca to fuck with the Norse Dorfs and Clan Eshin would start in the Massif Orcal in Bretonnia.
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>>160464141
Please send help

Am I supposed to fight this? Literally the first battle of the campaign. If I let him pass, he's gonna walk right up to my only settlement and shit down my throat.
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>>160464614
>armour-piercing

It sounds like you got BTFO instead manlet
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>>160464471
The Slav pack for Atilla had this too. You basically gather enough resources to build your NEET wonder, while balancing money that could've been spent on troops.
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>>160464384
Having a sub faction in Lustria as arch enemies of the Lizardmen(as per lore) and their main faction at Skavenblight allows a 2 front start. When the land expansion east into the Darklands happens. A new subfaction at Crookback mountain would mean a 3 front choice of start positions.

The Skaven have tunnels literally everywhere. Except for Ulthuan and thats only because they cannot penetrate the magic of the High Elves.
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>>160464689
First of all, what mods you using? Second of all, no. You ignore him and you immediately attack Karak Norn. Your spider will break down the door and you will rush in. You will take the city and then that dumbass will waste a turn coming back at ya. You use that turn to replenish or recruit new units. Then you attack him. He might decide to run away from you and not go with an underway battle. That is fine.
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>>160464689
>let him pass
>take his settlement
>now he has to come attack you at his settlement
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>>160464689

Do it you pussy.
>>
i have 40k in my treasury in Rome 2 campaign
what the fuck do I even spend this on
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>>160464421

>pic related

It's also on the store page. What exactly the fuck do you think "any" means

>>160464560

Nothing in the game is classified as "melee" aside from "Melee specialist" heros.

They're not cygors, and there's literally zero artillery on the elves roster.
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>>160464647
Because the grand campaign isn't an historical campaign.
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>>160464905
>Night Goblin Spears

Why would you use such a shitty unit?
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>>160464905

>ransom is an option

what.
>>
>>160464647
>>160464864
I guess it depends on how the sequels will work. If they don't have access to the old world and all of its factions to fight against, then people who only buy game 2 will get screwed out of 4/5ths of the skaven start positions and legendary lords.
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>>160465002

poison meatshield? although i have no idea wtf they have to offer him that regular night goblins don't do better since gob spears aren't anti-large
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>>160458365
Yes. It spawns an allied AI army that obeys war coordination targets with suicidal zeal
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>>160448869
rollin
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>>160464772
...You really don't know the rules to the TT, do you? Or are you just memeing?

Strength 4= -1 to enemy armour, and a higher chance to damage high toughness enemies.
Strength 3= no enemy armour modifiers.
Armour piercing=-1 to enemy armour.

Thus S3 with armour piercing is a shittier version of a basic S4.
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>>160464956
Treemen are spirits. Its likely they will have ethereal protection or some massive damage reduction.
Here is the profile of Treemen.
>Near impervious to harm
>Strike with enough force to shatter stone

Treemen will be extremely effective against walls and gates. Calling it.
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>>160464689
You either romp them in the underway or you let them pass and sack their settlement when they leave.
Pro tip: That spider will literally carry you.
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>>160465389
>large monster will break gates
how the fuck is that a fucking "calling it" moment you cocksucker
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who do I attack next?
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>>160465389

No shit they're gonna be good at gates, it's the walls that we're talking about. There's no non-artillery unit in the entire game that can attack the actual wall.

>>160465516

He's stuck on tree-dick and wants to be smart
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>>160448869
rolling
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>>160465559
stop being mean to your neighbors and make a chain of alliances :^)
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>>160465559
K N O S S O S S
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>>160465559

Head east till you hit the edge of the world. Do an Alexander the Great and look for the ocean
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Whelp this is going in the book
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>>160465516
You said no melee unit can attack walls. I said that the Treemen are classed in the ingame roster as spirits of the woods.

No need for projecting hostility anon. It's only a game and we're all just making assumptions on how each unit will work.
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>>160465631
I was allied with bithynia originally
then they allied with perg and pontus if I went against them I would have got fucked like the Seleucid
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>>160465824
>Extremity armor
>No chest plate/mail shirt
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Is it true that if you play Skarsnik you can't get any of the Greenskin achievements?
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>>160465559
WHAT WOULD ALEXANDER DO?!
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>>160465602
Maybe Treemen will.

CA would have already planned this in advance. They can't rely on small manned units that are glass cannons to storm T3 walls and T5 settlements.
There must be a siege mechanic being kept from us. Maybe there's an ability that casts roots to grow around the walls with exploding bulbs at onset of battle and special archer attacks that trigger it to act like arty hitting walls.
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>>160465997
Yes, you only get the achievements with the main factions. Minor factions don't count.
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>>160464542
for my amusement

blood for the blood god
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>>160465081
Who the fuck only buys 1/3 of a game?
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>>160465997
>>160466095
Gay as fuck.
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>>160466074
Or the smelly dumb neet elf scum isn't supposed to be able to just playfully take out fully-stacked garrisons with an extra army with them.
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>>160448869
What did it get?!
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>>160465818
S T R A I G H T D E V I L I S H
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>>160466074
>lore of life has a wall-attacking spell

Where were you when magic became mandatory?
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So what's the consensus on the Treekin models? They look pretty different than the old models, and I'm okay with them doing anew version. But I think they look a bit off.

I kind of like the Age of Sigmar versions better, since they match more with the rest of the Tree spirit units
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>>160466074

how stupid are you?
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Knife ears?

Good

I was running out of fodder for my armies
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>>160466304
torch the dawis already franz
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>>160466074
>Maybe there's an ability that casts roots to grow around the walls with exploding bulbs at onset of battle and special archer attacks that trigger it to act like arty hitting walls.
Why the fuck do I like this idea? I'm thinking of the Batman:Arkham Asylum final boss battle with the exposed bulbs and using the gel to blow it up.
>>160465997
Only main factions get cheevos. Its shit :(
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>>160466304

>Allowing a rival faction to get that big

You fucking idiot, man up and wipe them out for total domination victory
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>>160465818

how is this even allowed
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>>160466289
I think they're pretty cool seeing as they capture the savagery of the wood elves
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>>160465421
It literally did. Got my vanguard gobbos on the other side of them and got em to approach together, the dwarves got confused and balled up while trying to switch sides. Squigs dive bombed right in and tangled them all up, and once the spider got into the mess it was all over. Skarsnik is even kicking a dwarven lord's ass.

Is anyone else experiencing a bug where the new night goblin unleash fanatics 'spell' only lasts a second before the fanatic immediately disappears?
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>>160465818
GET
THE
BOOK

Hirn are literally the worst faction in the game.
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>>160466304
>Build maximum garrison in settlements located at frontline
>Laugh as welfs get rekt

I've already done this for Dawi along the border with Athel Loren, with the Darklands border and along the border with Land of the Dead.
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>>160466289
It's too bad they probably won't put in those colorful imps that cling to the treefolks' branches and onto the Dragons
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>>160465818
>Karak Hirn acting like shitheads
>As usual
I swear these guys are fucking goblins pretending to be dwarves or something.
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>>160466132
People who aren't following the business model and don't understand how all three games slot together. People who only really like elves or dinosaurs. People who stumble upon it and think it looks neat. Fuck, I don't know.
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>>160466302
Why? What did I say?
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>>160466526
That's a good point, they do have a "twisted by rage" sort of look going for them.

>>160466814
I always make sure to kill off those fuckers early on in the campaign.

I remember playing my first Dwarf Campaign and naively thinking I could unite all Dawi under one banner. Fuckers stabbed me in the back at the worst fucking time.

They deserve to have their beards burned off.
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What faction should I use if I like fast, cav centric armies?

Beastmen?
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>>160466019
>>160466019
pergamon bithynia alliance is literally already in arabia
how can I even compete
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>>160467056
Bretonia
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>>160466806
What even are those things?
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>>160467056
Bretonnia but that won't be out till February and if its as feature heavy as the wood elves. It's going to be good.
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>>160467175
Can't play that in the campaign.
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>>160457619
Kek
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>>160466074

First of all - they don't hide mechanics. Pretty much every new mechanic gets outlined on the store page for its respective DLC (e.g. moon phases for beastmen, grombrindal's ancestral whatever, wood elves Amber usage and unique campaign objective).

Secondly, while thats a cool idea there's no way in hell that's getting implemented due to a) being annoyingly complex and a waste of time for the player, it essentially devolves into the stance issue where they removed stances cause having a blatantly superior way to do things is bad b) its and incredible waste of development resources
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>>160467272
there are mods
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>>160467056

Empire has the most/best cavalry in general

If you want to pretend minotaurs are cavalry, then go beastmen

Greenskins are sorta maybe okay, Squigs are fun though if you wanna go all squig cav and a couple of boar boy biguns.
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Is there a lore reason behind Karak Hirn being a group of fucking shitfaced assholes?
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>>160466370
>>160466423
SIGMAR FORBIDS THIS
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>>160467926
THIS ACTION DOES HAVE MY CONSENT
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>>160467701
Too much autism
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>>160468131
BY SIGMAR, NO!
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>>160467701
They're stuck so close to humans that they developed an ego because humans think their keeps are the stuff of legend due to the amount of wealth within but they are a mere babby.
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Why do people seem to think WE's will BTFO dwarves?

The whole point of WE's is that they're squishy but fast glass cannons, but the whole point of Dwarves is that they're tanky-immobile cannons.

Going 1 for 1 it's unlikely that a unit of glade guard will take out a unit of quarellers before they break.

Dwarves will have better armour and better morale, their only weakness is their slowness, which doesn't matter at all if you're opponent is using ranged as well.
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>>160465824
I didn't say shit buddy, I just got here and saw some dumbass doing some incredible prophetic scrying to see that a monstrous unit would be able to attack gates. A real gamble, staking your rep on that one
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>>160466814
>>160467701
When did Hirn become the bad guys? Last I checked it was Norn who were the shitlords.
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Holy fucking shit this is strange

If only my quarrellers hadn't run out of ammo before the orcs did, I'd probably have won this ages ago
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>>160468365
>playing faction with no cavalry

you deserved it you fat manlet
>>
holy shit why are miners so worthless?
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>>160468525

Because they're the cheapest unit in the game aside from base goblin shits

That being said, they have armor piercing so for a pure damage soak they do better than most against armored units
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Now we know the Athel Loren map in the grand campaign will be 6 regions with 10 slots for each settlement and the mini history campaign "Season of Revelation" will feature a much larger and detailed Athel Loren with the surrounding Wild Heath and Bretonnian lands.
Considering the dataleak included the 12 eternal realms aswell.

I will post the Eternal realms and how different they are to each other(also Oak of Ages lore). If CA make each of these areas visually different on the campaign map. I'll be seriously impressed(even more so than I already am).

1/2
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>>160468281
Norn is too busy fighting Skarsnik now to be a pain in the ass
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>mfw Total War: Cow Cow is next
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>>160448869
Rollan
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>>160469037
2/2
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>>160468525
First tier units?
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>>160464956
>>160464421
The point of Welfs being able to conquer any settlement is to set up buffer-zones around the forest
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>>160466095

Are you sure? I got the spider achievement for starting a game as Skarsnik.
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>>160469037
>>160469219
Here is the datamine leak of the Wood Elf campaign faction list and clearly indicated a big map. Yes it could have changed but its been 100% accurate so far.


wh_dlc05_brt_mini_aquitaine
wh_dlc05_brt_mini_bastonne
wh_dlc05_brt_mini_brionne
wh_dlc05_brt_mini_bordeleaux
wh_dlc05_brt_mini_bretonnia_rebels
wh_dlc05_brt_mini_bretonnia_separatists
wh_dlc05_brt_mini_carcassonne
wh_dlc05_brt_mini_gisoreux
wh_dlc05_brt_mini_montfort
wh_dlc05_brt_mini_parravon
wh_dlc05_brt_mini_quenelles
wh_dlc05_bst_mini_morghur_herd
wh_dlc05_bst_mini_morghur_herd_rebels
wh_dlc05_bst_mini_morghur_herd_separatists
wh_dlc05_grn_mini_deff_grindaz
wh_dlc05_grn_mini_deff_grindaz_waaagh
wh_dlc05_grn_mini_greenskin_rebels
wh_dlc05_grn_mini_greenskin_rebels_waaagh
wh_dlc05_grn_mini_greenskin_separatists
wh_dlc05_grn_mini_greenskin_separatists_waaagh
wh_dlc05_grn_mini_skullsmasherz
wh_dlc05_grn_mini_skullsmasherz_waaagh
wh_dlc05_wef_mini_anmyr
wh_dlc05_wef_mini_argwylon
wh_dlc05_wef_mini_arranoc
wh_dlc05_wef_mini_atylwyth
wh_dlc05_wef_mini_cavaroc
wh_dlc05_wef_mini_cythral
wh_dlc05_wef_mini_fyr_darric
wh_dlc05_wef_mini_modryn
wh_dlc05_wef_mini_talsyn
wh_dlc05_wef_mini_tirsyth
wh_dlc05_wef_mini_torgovann
wh_dlc05_wef_mini_wydrioth
wh_dlc05_wef_wood_elves
wh_dlc05_wef_wood_elves_rebels
wh_dlc05_wef_wood_elves_separatists
wh_dlc05_wef_wood_elves_separatists_durthu
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>>160469273
Total War : S.T.A.L.K.E.R. when?
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>>160469273
To either get Amber, replenish troops and recruit troops globally at a local cost and to "exploit" resources in regions like wine,marble etc. You can choose 1 of 3 buildings. But Amber is "finite" so you must choose how to spend the secondary resource carefully.
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>>160469273
Didn't they say there are stipulations though/

like only being able to build most of your buildings in the forest
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>>160468281
Norn were just anti-social and now they get tied up in fights too often to start their own.

Hirn were always sneaky, backstabbing arseholes.
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>>160469179

Honestly amazed they haven't done Total War: Three Kingdoms yet
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>>160448869
ayyy
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>>160469367
But you can't get the victory achievements.
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>>160469367

That's a Skarsnik-only achievement, nerd

I'm saying you don't get main game cheevos with non main-game lords
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>>160469179

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Mu7WasxKcU
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>>160468525
Give them blasting charges and they do good.

They don't fill much of a niche though because dwarves have so many ways of dealing with armour already.

Would be way better if instead of vanguard, which is completely and utterly useless for dwarves, they could have a thing like tabbletop where they burrow up mid-way through a battle.

That would let dwarves actually flank and make the unit behave more closely to how it does on TT.
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>>160469273

what exactly is your point, we already know the elves have only three different settlement options

>>160469530

For every settlement you take you have an option of three different outposts. One is a recruitement outpost (essentially just lets you global recruit via the normal way i.e. normal costs and duration). The other is replenishment to restore armies, the last is to produce amber. You produce one amber permanently per settlement, it's not a continually generated resource
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>>160461308
>Cannons have less range than arrows

Okay.
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>>160469897
One is to produce amber
One is for replenishment and global recruitment but with local recruitment cost and time
One is for exploiting regional resources like wine,pottery,marble etc
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>>160469371
>>160469219
>>160469037
Nice looks twice the size as Eye of an Eye. Athel Loren sounds like a cool place. Also nice to see how mechanics link in with the New World expansion with the whole world roots able to be used to travel to distant forests like in Naggaroth for emergencies.
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>>160470173
>>160469897

So just build the Amber building, spend the amber, bulldoze the amber building and replace it?
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>>160470173
>>160470376

I don't think there is an ember building. It's a trade post that gives you access to trade resources instead. I believe you are supposed to always get ember when you conquer a province.
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>>160470476

Oh you trade for Amber?

That's kind of weird.

I thought Wood Elfs just stabbed you and took your stuff if you had something they liked.
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>>160448869
rolling
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>opening cinematic will only include first 4 factions

LITERALLY UNPLAYABLE
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>>160470041

Normally I would agree but Elfs get ridiculous once you hit hero level
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>mfw I'm going to zog off over the mountain ranges as Skarsnik and turn the Oak of Ages into the biggest pillar of poo ever seen

G O B L I N S
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>>160448869
I MUST FULFILL MY SLAYER OATH
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>>160470931
GROMBRINDAL
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>>160470909
Not before Papa Vlad turns it into the biggest spooky forest in the world.
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>>160471078

>Wherever I go I must also rape elves
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>>160471078

Speaking of which, is Vlad still the best overall Hero or did they finally nerf him?
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>>160471151
Yes.
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>>160471151

>nerfing daddy vlad

get out of here mannfred
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>>160470931
YOU KNOW WHO I AM
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>>160470571
No, you get the amber when you conquer the region.

>the Wood Elves require Amber [...] This is a finite resource in the world however, and can only be gained by capturing settlements and setting up Asrai Lookouts.

>However, these settlement locations can only ever house Asrai Lookouts with very limited building options, turning them into army replenishment stops, recruitment stations (with access to the global recruitment pool but at local recruitment pricing), or as centres to exploit any regional trade resources.
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>>160471151
I think people forget how much magic mannfred can shit out on top of actually being mobile and even flying for good wind of death. He's really not worse than vlad if at all.
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>>160471772

>t.mannlet von carstein
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>>160455440
Always but the colour varies.
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>>160471772

yeah but mannfred is bald and short
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>>160471772

Stop posting on 4chan Mannfred
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>>160471772
Mannfred is still good but Vlad's bonus to his army are what puts him ahead.
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>>160471901

This

He's like those champions from Rome 2

How the hell can you beat a guy whose stack gets stronger just from sitting there and doing nothing?
>>
>start campaign as dwarves/orcs
>60+ turn shut fight in the badlands
>finally break free to head north only to see chaos murdered everyone with very little resistance
>even then they're all just shitty marauder stacks that run from you

This is suffering.
>>
Reminder that vampires are sparkly faggots. Necromancers are the best undead characters.
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>>160472062
And that stack delpoys incredibly close negating one of the biggest downsides to the VC roster.
>>
Now that the excitement has worn off, what are your biggest complaints about Wood Elves?
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>>160472281
Their existence.
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>>160472062

>zombies get more experienced

they get more.... deader?
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>>160472062
>>160472237

I mostly feel that you just steamroll everything in battle as VC anyways, so in the end it doesn't really matter all that much.
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>>160472107

Well that one Necromancer has a pretty good research boost so he's easily the best 2nd lord to get

>>160472281

Play style pretty much requires you to fuck over Brettonia?
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>>160472281
I'm not able to play it currently to formulate non shit posting complaintsand that bretonnia still isn't out
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>>160470909
Goblins...
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>>160472281

so far not much since we haven't really seen much besides the roster.

maybe when we see the lore of life or shadow we'll start seeing more flaws.

also if I remember correctly there's no siege defence for wood elves which blows ass. I hope they get unique defense maps that benefit them.
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>>160472683

There's no walls but there's probably decent garrisons
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>>160472281
I'm gonna feel obligated to play through their shitty mini campaign when their grand campaign is better, just like with beastmen
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Why do people bully Mannfred?
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when?
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Maybe i'm just lucky but everytime i play any faction other than beastmen, the beastie boys die out within 20 turns. Are they making major changes to finally make them a threat or how are they going to make them a viable opponent for Wood Elves/Bretonnia?
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>>160472805

we don't actually know if it's shitty yet desu. the issue with Eye for an Eye was that it's basically siege warfare simulator
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>>160465962

that's why you have your shield and sword. If you're too stupid to shield yourself and too slow to parry, then you'd've died anyways
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>>160472521
>tfw /a/ tried to tell me this was deep and thought-provoking
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>>160473019

Because he's a jerk.

Also directly responsible for the death of the Warhammer world.
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>>160472763

I hope that instead of walls the wood elves will get a good geographical position with cliffs and woods.

especially since the elves have no towers and no walls to protect them.

I hope we get to see the wood elf cities during sieges like the others.
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>>160473019
because he's a MANNLET
M A N N L E T
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>>160459139
>>160459728
>>160459974


SAUCE FOR THE LOVE OF GOD WHAT IS THE NAME
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>>160473116

>high
>elf
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>>160473019

>literally killed the warhammer world

HE KILLED MUH FANTASY NIGGA
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better sieges in warhammer when
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>>160473019

1) Because he's a megalomaniac with daddy issues.

2) Because he betrayed Vlad, who is quite possibly the second best vampire in fiction.

3) Because he has a massive inferiority complex.

4) Because he's an underhanded prick.

5) Because he's not as smart as he thinks he is.

6) Because he was too much of a pussy to go up against Konrad, and subsequently is responsible for every fuck up Konrad ever made. Note: Konrad fucked up a lot.

7) He literally ruined fucking everything for everyone during The End Times and still managed to be Nagah's favorite pet afterward.
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>>160473639

Never.
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>>160473639
ever
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>>160473184
>>160473354
>>160473734
How?
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>>160472281
the tree victory requires you to harm the good guys
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>>160474047
>Implying humans won't assimilate into the asrai and create an eternal umgi-elf love paradise
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>>160473159
>Forgoing armor on the largest vital part of your body
Thank goodness your ancestors weren't that retarded
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>>160473986
Pic related is why. They were making a decent last stand against Chaos, until Mannfred decided to be a backstabbing fuckwad, and killing best Patriarch.
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>>160473734
>Nagash's favorite pet
Nagash hates him with a passion, he knows everything is his fault and he sees Mannfred as lower than the filth he walks on but at the same time he's desperate for allies and can't kill him.

After the end times he had him chained up in undead Detroit to suffer until he would be needed.
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>>160474141

Control yourself degenerate Slaaneshi scum.
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>>160474161
He also did it for literally no reason other than to be a dick and ruin everything for ever.
>>
TW: WW1 when?
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>>160474161

>wait, why did I do this again?
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>>160474352
There's a Napoopan mod for that
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>>160448869
JUST
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>>160474415
I don't want a mod dammit
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Armies should be able to field 40 units per banner.

Thoughts?
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>>160474763
Gets laggy as fuck unless you've got a 6700k i7 or something
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>>160473986
>>160474161
Chaos was trying to break open reality like a man attacking a watermelon with a hammer. Evil super sayian Gelt (it's a long story) was channelling a spell that would not only put a stop to it but would actually fuck up all of chaos's plans saving the world.

But in comes Mannfred. After acting like a stupid, spoilt child all the time this was going on he stops to reflect apon his fuck ups.
You see, he revived Nagash meaning even if the not!chaos team wins he's going to be his bitchboy for the rest of his non-life. Unable to deal with that he, purely on impulse, decides to stab gelt and fuck everything up because he would rather be dead (dead dead) than serve Nagash and he's taking everyone with him as one last tantrum.

The magic goes out of control and literally blows up the world, all if it, gone, boom, the end.
>>
>>160474763

Armies should be able to march without a general.
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>>160474945
seconded, was a real deal killer when they implemented this
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>>160474161
Fuck, Balthasar Gelt was so fuck Based. You maybe shit in the game Gelt but i would be damn if i didn't pick you anytime as the LL of my heart
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>>160474763
Garrison commanders should be a thing
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>>160474885

I've got two Titans in my rig and it STILL somehow manages to chug in four-stack battles (three stacks if its a siege)
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>>160473116
DUDE
>>
>>160474945
They had it perfect in s2, a rabble could march on its own, but was faster with a general embedded. They should be bringing that back, with other little logistics and command bonuses for an army with a clear leader. Maybe even a possibility for leaderless troops on long campaigns or far from home to start deserting.
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>>160473116
pretty funny
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>>160473116
I'm gonna need sauce on this
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>>160475129
I admit I was kind of neutral toward Gelt since I wasn't an Empire guy on TT. But the moment I started a campaign with him for the hell of it and heard that first Quest dialogue. Man the fucker became one of my favorite characters.

They really do need to buff the shit out of him. He really deserves better than this.
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>>160448869
Anythin awesome
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>>160475204
IIRC large battles are CPU bound.
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>>160474945

the only reason I like the current armies marching with generals is because it prevents the AI from being retarded and spawning 20+ single unit stacks and moving them all causing ungodly turn timer lag.
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>>160475525
VENGEANCE
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>>160475510

they need to buff gelt and kemmler. right now they have garbage on the campaign and garbage skill trees that are outclassed by every other lord.

kemmler is easy if they give him krell as a legendary hero. but don't know what they can do with gelt other than buff his spells.
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Two greek giant ballistae can't down two towers

what the fuck
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>>160475621
At the very least they should allow you to build armies in a city and then require a general to move them around. Would be great if I could reinforce some garrisons without having to pay extra for a level 1 general.
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>>160475204
>Can supposedly afford eating money on multiple titans
>Too retarded to figure out that high unit counts are CPU dependant
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>>160475867
>Don't use this if you're just pretending to kill yourself for attention
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>>160471078
Not before we Dawi bring our flame cannons and irondrakes. We have grudges to settle before you Uzkular!
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>>160474151
well considering that breastplates weren't a thing for most of history, I think most peoples ancestors did just fine without them
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>>160474151
You mean your head? Always take a helmet before any other piece of armor.
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>>160476597
Because they worse lamellar or mail or something else if they could get their hands on it. Any soldier who could get his hands on armor for his torso wouldn't have passed it up.
>>160476703
Reread my post
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>>160472805
The campaign feels like Last Roman to me with the preview and teasers with quest battles back to back with AI armies and scripted events.
Plus check here:>>160469037
>>160469219
>>160469371
I'm curious to see it. We won't see the mini campaign until the week after next probably. They'll just post skill posters or something next week.
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>>160458469
He was trumped by some magical elf bitch, not even god.
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>>160476560
>implying your stubby little legs can get you there before glorious Vampire Counts

Midgets can get the sloppy seconds.
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DIE DIE MANTHINGS!
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>>160476928
'm wasted on cross-country! We Dawi are natural sprinters, very dangerous over short distances.
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>>160476887

is that egg in the passage deathclaw?
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>>160477179
You should sprint back to your cuckmountain before the rats or goblins take all your stuff again.
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>>160477356
That's going in the book!
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>>160476887
>Orion was torn
>But immediately after saying this it says he didn't give a fuck and would just let Franz die
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>>160477706
High quality writing
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>>160435098
THEY'RE FINALLY HERE

WHOOOO

WOOD ELVES FUCK YES
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>>160476887
>Tfw we'll never get any lewd fiction about Karl Franz and other great leaders of the Empire getting dominated by superior elven cock.
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Is this going to be a bad time?
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>>160478713
Kill Hellcannons and Chariots and Chaos does very minute damage. Use a hero to snipe the giant. Plus, most of their units look pretty low leadership. You got this.
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>>160478713

>no cav

you did this to yourself
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>>160478713
Dat second army dough
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>>160478985
lmfao

gg
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>>160478713
>not using Black Armor Franz
pleb
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>>160478713
>>160478985

You're fucked, bro. You should just give up and abandon the Empire the glory of Chaos now.
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>>160478713
>>160478985
good luck
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>>160478985
H-h-here I go!
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>>160478985

give up you actually have a better chance with autoresolve with that lineup
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>>160478713
>>160478985
WEW LAD
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>>160479121

did you try autoresolving first to see if you lucked out with RNG?
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>>160479121

>barely any artillery or cav
>against 6+ hellcannons

you're fucked mate
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>>160479121

wait, how did you get that second army
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>>160479121
show results after I wanna see kill counts
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>>160479121

For once the AI has a better army comp than the actual player
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>>160475841
many patches ago, you could ask a ballista crewman to hit a mounted general moving perpendicular to your trajectory and he'd ask you, "which eye, sir?"

Nowadays you're lucky to take one tower down before you have to send your men over the top.
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How to multiplayer as dorf?
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>>160475423
PLEASE HELP
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>>160479121
how do you have so many units?
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>>160473146
Whenever I play as empire if I don't guard my cities before I get walls the beastniggers come over and raze them
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>>160479639
wtf amiibo is that
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>>160478713
>>160479121
POST THE RESULT YOU FUCK
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>>160480396
birb
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>>160480006

runesmith buffs, damage buffs with thorgrim's shit, grumbling guard so your infantry lasts forever vigour wise, a couple of skirmishers of your choice, one or two slayers, one or two cannons. Dwarf warriors/longbeards for mainline (no great weapons, you need the charge defense). Maybe a thane or two.

In game just camp in a circle with thick lines that can't get charged through
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>Comprehensive Wood Elves army roster

Am I the only one who finds this really funny? Like they had to make up for the meme men roster and wanted people to know they didn't fuck up this time.
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>wood elves win condition is accumulating amber and defending their forest
>you can accumulate amber without ever leaving the forest

Just as planned, /twg/
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>>160481069
Hey, they actually included all the units except for some heroes and a lord. This is the least they've ever screwed up, so i'll let them call it comprehensive if that makes them feel better.
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>>160481226
I know, but it's just really amusing to me. It was listed as a bullet point in welf DLC but nothing similar in Meme men DLC
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Whatever the fuck this is WHEN?
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>>160477212
Yes, numbnuts
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>>160481123

no you can't dumbass, what the fuck are you on about.
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>>160479121
IN SIGMAR'S NAME
Karl was the real MVP, tying up all the hellcannons behind the battelines
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>>160481123
what are you fucking on about
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>>160481550
Shiiiiiiiiiit, good going.
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>>160481550
nice one
but where the fuck did you pull that entire second army?
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>>160481438
Yes you can. Probably not enough for a victory like that guy is saying, but settlements in Athel Loren have amber. You can see it on the store page promotional screen shots.
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>>160481550
I believed in you
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>>160481550

why do you have a forty person stack instead of it showing reinforcements. It can't be a garrison cause that doesn't show as the same army
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>>160481550
good job!
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>>160481550
Sheeeeeit
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>>160481861

he's talking about wood elf win conditions you fucking sperg, how autistic are you to interpret that wrong
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>>160481550
The real question is how many cheat mods are you using?
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>>160460997
but anon, we literally didn't have those before
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>>160459139

Source? Can't find it
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>>160482252
>>160482017
>>160481768
>>160480128
I tweaked a file so all factions can have 40 unit stacks. Had some pretty fucked up battle agains the VC actually. Lucked out in this case,as Arky and Lizardman both only had 20 each.
Well, as lucky as 7 hellcannons can be
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>>160482627
re:monster

don't bother. It's not hentai and is 100% garbage
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>>160482769

Oh come on it can't be THAT bad
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>>160483264
It's really that bad

Imagine every fucking awful isekai/SAO trope

Now imagine them being that much worse.
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>>160480109
it's just porn anon
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>>160483404
If it is, it's porn I want. Stoned high elf, that's some titillating shit.
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>>160483264
>>160483319
it really is as crappy as he says, I didnt believe the anons and read it 2 nights ago and my life has been worse since.

It doesn't get better, please save yourself
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>fog
>wait
>fog
>wait
>fog
>wait
>fog
FUCKING FOG
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>>160435391

>last remaining unfinished army
>implying warriors of chaos are finished
>implying empire is finished
>implying greenskins are finished
>implying vampire counts are finished

I'll give you Dwarfs but they're still missing Slayer heroes and lords. Also not counting forgeworld or storm of chaos shit, all the ones I mentioned are still missing several units.
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>>160484189
If you include the old goblin hewer then dwarfs are also missing slayer war machines.
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>>160435779
I want to fuck the Vermintide elf waifu.
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>>160484605
But I want them cheevos
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Howdy, imperial servants! Check it out, I'm made of gold!

t. Balthasar Gelt
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>>160484605

SHE HAS A NAME DICKHEAD. YOU DONT DESERVE HER ;-;

For real tho Kerrilian is way too hot and way to good at banter for any human to have a chance ;-;
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>>160467182
spites, radiants, malevolents, or whatever you want to call the fairies of the forest
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>Liking the ayy lmaoelf
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>>160484712
It is amazing indeed. Gold is a very valuable commodity.
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>>160484728

Kerillian* fml baka
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>>160453097

It's literally a generic empire general you fuck
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>>160484728
Kerillian talks tough, but she gets the Saltzpyre and Kruber cock every day.
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>>160482186
The win condition is upgrade your tree using amber, and you can get amber just by being in Athel Loren. We haven't heard about other win conditions, and if that's the only one you really will be able to win just by staying in your forest.
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Anyone know of a mod that delays the Chaos invasion from spawning until waaaaay later into the game? Say after turn 100 or so, and maybe the real invasion at 150 or something?

Anything that stops it from triggering prematurely because you happen to be doing good for once? It seems without fail i'll get like five provinces and sure as fuck, GRAVE NEWS MY LORD

I want to purge all non-humans )that includes those bearded shits) and unite all humanity under my banners, not spend 100+ turns autoresolving the same 40 Norscan/Chaos Warrior stacks made entirely out of Marauder Horsemen and Hellcannons.
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>>160484896
fuck me?? fuck YOU
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>>160485124
Gee, if only the workshop had a search tool...
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Tfw you target the minotaurs with a charge order using your grail knights, but the Minotaurs run into woods and become hidden resulting in your knights doing jack shit and your peasant bowmen becoming dead.
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>>160485124
yes there is a mod for that.
later and harder chaos it's called, or something like that
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>>160485023

you don't generate amber per turn, there's a finite amount of it in the game cause you get one per settlement. You can't win without conquering because there isn't enough of the shit just in Athel Loren.
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>>160484896
w0w #r00d
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>>160463865

>don't have the healing

They're getting the lore of life you stupid fuck
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Marcel, get the lance.
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>>160466806

GW dragons all look so fucking bad
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>>160485226
OUT
FUCKING
SKILLED
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>no female lord on release
FUCK I'm so happy.

I'd have liked them but how much certain faggots were pining for them, it's a treat to have them probably restricted to a later update/DLC.

There is too large a discrepancy between Elf and woodlad units to justify picking Durthu, unless it specifies that he only pays amber to recruit elite elf units.
I'll still probably pick him though.

Now we just have to wait for the Bretonnia and Beastmen update announcement

I think we can well and truly view the Russian Leak as 100% canon by now, even though Woodelves were expected here anyway.The only question left is just when we're getting the expansions. Hopefully BEFORE Skaven, so that when the Skaven finally appear they appear across the entire fucking world like they should. Although they might have to exist prior, so that the Lizardmen have something to do before the Daemons release.
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>>160485674

Not the resurrection kind of healing dumbass
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>>160486049

They did specify something like that, the meatshield cannon fodder wont take amber
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>Forging alliances gives you access to the amber that factions settlements contain
Noice
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>>160484820
I must submit to my servile instincts.
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>>160486049
I usually like picking ladies in rpgs and shit but I couldn't imagine myself picking a female lord over people like Vlad, Durthu, Franz, Grom, or Grimgor honestly.
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How to deal with chaos chariot spam and marauder spam as Vamps?
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Talk about driving a hard bargain
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What's the best multilayer match you've ever played in any Total War game ever, /twg/? Why? I want to hear your stories.
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>>160486336
Screw them. Help Pontus instead.
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Wood Elf /Beastmen LL pack when?

And more importantly
What will it be called?i would call it The War for the Woods
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>>160486336
>>160486336
why does the Rome 2 diplomacy map look so fucking bad
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>>160486387
**multiplayer
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>>160486405
How can I get Pontus into a proxy war with Selucid?
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>>160486534
Just do it.
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>>160486049
They said there will be 4 races in the expansion

So which race is also included, assuming it's both elves, and lizzies?

I'm assuming Skaven would be the other race
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>>160486174
Aight, cool. Cheers.

>>160486287
I'm not too big a fan of Orion and would have preferred the Sisters of Twilight, but they'd probably be hard to properly recreate in a meaningful way in TW. There just aren't very many good female lord options in TW outside of Khalida and Morathi. And while Morathi is undoubtedly confirmed, Khalida is still probably #3 behind obviously Settra and Arkhan.

>>160486290
Marauders shouldn't outmatch your infantry too much and you can outlast and out-morale them.
I'd honestly take a Terrorgeist or two against the chariots, their anti-large dropping from the skies chassis is all I really use them for.
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>>160486421
CA said they won't release DLC for their DLC.
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>>160486421
it'll be called

The no DLC for DLC
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>>160486049
They gonna have to wait for Bretonnia and the Fey Enchantress.
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>>160486657
Oh fuck, did they?
Do you have a source to that?

I'm going off quite old information where they weren't sure if everything would get slapped together on the Grand Campaign until both expansions were out, so they can function as standalone if they please. Which in my mind supported the 3 factions and large new world addition as one expansion, with the 4 factions not adding anywhere near as much to the world later on.

Skaven is the only reasonable option I can see going with the new world expansion, though I'd hate to see them added if the Grand campaign isn't all slapped together at the point of their arrival, as their big thing is how they're literally everywhere.

The other option is that there is only the new world expansion and that daemons are the fourth/fifth/sixth/seventh race for it, and the other expansion will be like End Times or something.
The thing is that Lizards NEED either daemons or Skaven. Unless they're going for an expedition style faction. Which I could see working somewhat but still disappointing overall, as their defensive accomplishments are their greatest.
>>
>>160487000
http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2016-11-16-the-next-historical-total-war-is-an-era-we-havent-tackled-yet

>The second game will be equivalent in size to its predecessor, if not bigger, offering four playable races from day one. Additionally, we can expect a similar amount of paid/free DLC, introducing new legendary lords and race packs as we've seen with this first title.
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>>160486678
I don't know shit about the Warhammer lore, but even having a female lord in this type of setting is kinda weird?
>>
>base game $60
>grim $8
>king $8
>beast $19
>elfs $19

optional chaos and blood because preorder and cosmetic

honestly because it has been spaced out and each update brings a lot to the game i don't feel cheated in this one. don't know why. still having fun. anyone else not know how to feel? i feel like im getting my money's worth at least with king and i cant imagine the elves not being fun as shit
>>
>>160487469
It's the most DLC i've bought for a game.

But it's also my 2nd longest played game of 2016. Considering the #1 game was only $30 for me it almost seems steep, but I think i've been having more fun with warhammer. I can afford a $8 or so DLC once a month if it gives me 10-20 hours of playtime
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>>160487469
I've gotten my money's worth out of each DLC entry so far.
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>>160485737
>Reik-style Gothic Sallet
>zelady

wut
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The Lady > Shitmar
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>>160487469
I know I'm getting jewed but I feel ok about it. It's a strange feeling.
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>>160487768
shhh shhhhhhh shhhhhhhhhhhhhh
>>
You're alright with getting cucked for your shekels because they're handouts compared to Games Workshops jewery.
>>
>>160487929
Just imagine how many good goy points will be spent when the entire trilogy and their respective dlcs are released.
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>>160488137
like... 300?
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>>160487469
This? Like i can see it being a issue if you're getting into it all latter but buying it all piece meal has been really good. It's keeping the game fresh.

So far I've already dumped more hours in than I have any other Total War and I feel like the cost to fun ratio has been pretty even to good.
>>
>>160488336
There is now more than 100 dollar worth of content for this game alone. And now that Sega knows they have a cash cow on their hands I can only imagine they are going to ramp it up
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>>160448354
>16 races

Can you please list them all for me?
>>
What are your guys endgame dwarf armies like? I can't afford to have all ironbreakers atm
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>>160487091
Cheers big ears.
This certainly raises more questions than it asks.

>>160487416
Most of the female lords aren't really weird. There is appropriately few of them.

One is an indestructible mummy who is the avatar of a goddess or some shit and spends all her time obliterating vampires.

One is the first vampire, though granted while capable of combat it's not her best fit.

One is the wife of the greatest of all elves and mother of probably the second greatest and is pretty much singlehandedly behind the elven civil war which has lasted thousands of years, she's probably in the top ten stongest magic users club.

One is the closest attendant to a very important goddess and again super duper magicy and shit. I'd tell you more but she's Bretonnian so there isn't anything more to tell.

One is simply THE champion of Khorne.

Sisters of Twilight are just too good fighty lads from a race where women make okay fighty lads and everyone is a mary sue anyway. They have the fact that their model is multiple people as a gimmick as well.

Outside of those there really isn't much.
There's the Tsarina 'Chaos Cocksleeve' Katarin I guess.
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>>160453317
Different "Theatres of War" like Empire?
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>>160488558
IRONBREAKERS
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>>160488558
39 gyrocopters
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>>160472106
Orc campaign is pure shit.
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>>160488558

ironbreakers
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>>160484712
Even in a pseudo-race with a genetic pool as hopelessly polluted as the imperials there is still a chance for the birth of the kind of prodigy that only appears once every thousand years.

"I hate Men who disagree with me, but I hate other races even more."
t. Karl Franz

This statement alone led to a breakthrough in Imperial thought. Led by this "genius" rhetoric, the imperials brought their inferiority complex to new heights.

Undivided in their quest for relevance, they decided to call their country the unifed ""Empire"" of Man
>>
>>160488537


Dwarfs
Greenskins
High Elves
Dark Elves
Wood Elves
Bretonnia
Empire
Border princes?
Vampire counts
Chaos
Beastmen
Lizardmen
Tomb Kings
Skaven
Ogre Kingdoms
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>>160488510
400?
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>>160488990
>Border princes?
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>>160488580
So there are cool lord like ladies but CA will never implement them me thinks.
>>
Does Warhammer have any autistic/aspergal characters?
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>>160489153
dwarfs
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>>160488371
>>160487929

Yea I mean at this rate the whole game will be about $300... So my brain cant wrap around that but I still feel like I'm getting a great time.
>>
>>160489153

sigvald
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>>160489153
Mannfred.
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>>160489153
the fanbase
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>>160488953
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ztOV2wrrkY
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>>160446345
but that's a lie, anon
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>>160489153
dwarves or mannfred, but what's the difference?
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>>160488537
>>160488990
Chaos Dorfs are a possibility

Estalia and Tilea could be their own thing, Kislev could be as well.

Forgot Daemons of Chaos which could have four subdivisions.

What he linked the the proper armies though, with border princes replaced by Daemons of Chaos.

>>160488953
Fuck off Bernd.

>>160487829
>serving elves

>>160489117
They're pretty cool, not more standout cool than male lords though.

The only two that we should certainly expect are the Fey Enchantress and Morathi. Morathi because she's super important and the Fey Enchantress because Bretonnia have NOBODY else.

Khalida is the only other one most people would really like as of the KANGZ lords they almost have a triumvirate of importance. But again as I've said she is technically the least important of the three.

>>160489153
Mannfred, Archaon, ALL DWARF CHARACTERS, Malekith, and Tyrion.
>>
Which race has the girliest boys?
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>Tried Steel Faith Overhaul
>Resized Lords and Heroes is not compatible
>Dwarfs taller than humans and humans the size of trolls ruin the whole game for me

Can someone recommend some mods?
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What a qt.
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>>160489892
In physical appearance; High/Wood Elves, in actions/mindset; Bretonnia.

>>160489908
RADIOUS
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hey guys, what dwarf building allows me to recruit more thanes? level 3 melee recruit buildings dont seem to increase the cap.
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>>160490048
Thane?
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G O B L I N S
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>>160489892

Greenskins
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>>160490005
>in actions/mindset; Bretonnia.
What an unchivalrous brute you are
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>>160474362

>Ah shit.
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>>160490124
>PLEASE APPROVE OF ME, MOTHER FIGURE
Brets do cool shit, it's just their motivation is really pathetic.
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>>160490096
pls
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several more questions about the game guys.

1) are organ guns for dwarfs worth it? What about flame cannons? Should I just stick with grudge throwers and cannons?

2) if a main faction gets destroyed, can they come back? I went north hoping to fight chaos with franz as backup only to find marienburg and talabecland dominating and the empire completely gone.
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>>160448235
so i gotta know do you think CA will (in their infinite wisdom) continue to limit it to 2 player co op campaigns once there are 16 playable races in the game?]
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>>160490048
Hall of Oaths
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>>160489982
squigs doing a conga! haha
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>>160490392
Sorry my dude.
I don't play stunties so I had to look it up.

>>160490510
if you can defend flame cannons and have enough shit for them to target they do really nicely. Organ guns are great against heavy armor but that's it.
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>>160490261
Well that's the whole point. Bretonnia is a hodge podge of Arthurian legends, Chivalry, and Medieval France. So of course they'd do everything in their power to maintain honor and virtue, especially for the sake of an equally honorable and virtuous matron figure like the lady of the lake.

Saying you don't like Bretonnia being "muh lady" chivalrous neckbeards with mommy issues and a crusader/knight fantasy is like saying you don't like 40k because it's an edgy grimdark sci-fi world made by teenagers dreaming of being neo-nazis, history buffs, and metal fans.
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>>160490102
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>Tombs Kings still not announced
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>>160491120
Thank Sigmar for that!
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>>160490582
Engine limitations.

>>160490991
Well I strongly dislike the Space Marines but appreciate the setting otherwise, so maybe you're on the right track.
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I beat an army of chaos shits!!

They had chaos giants but I had a terrorgheist. Checkmate atheists. I just swamped their leader with 4 vargheists while he was sitting out on the field and then when he finally got to the fight I sent my vargulfs on him.
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>>160491154
>serving
>when you can rule
Franz is infinitely superior to the ancient barbarian retard. The cult of Sigmar is the one thing keeping humanity from greatness.
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Any advice for Egypt in Rome 1
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>>160491394
The only thing I remember is their opening infantry is so goddamned useless.
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>>160491394
Holy fuck it's been so long.
Chariot and archer spam I think. With just enough phalanx to protect the archers.

I think you're also a viable full horsefucker army.
As for the campaign map, do you start touching the southern border? Like any edge nation, reaching that secures one border permanently. Though Rome1 has its meme population growth/uprising/extermination cycle, you'll probably be established before having to deal with that.
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>>160491436
So should I rush better infantry or are they not an infantry faction

>>160491557
I haven't used chariots yet, but based on what I saw in my Julii campaign they have fucking abysmal pathfinding and end up all over the map and I don't know how the fuck they actually work.
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>>160486049
It takes a certain type of unhappy spite to be pleased with the horrible-looking orion and the tree they gave us just because that's the opposite of what some people you've never met wanted
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How do I use chariots effectively in Total Warhams?
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>>160492153
Disband them and replace them with cavalry or monsters.
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>>160492153

You don't
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>>160492153
I feel like chariots are only good against human (empire) infantry. Bretonnians and Dwarves have too good of charge defense and damage resistance, Orks and Beastmen have too much mass, and Vampires it doesn't matter if you hit them because their infantry is fodder.

I will say though, it's annoying as fuck when Chaos doom stacks bring like 8 chariots and hit your skirmisher lines while you're pre-occupied.
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>>160489103
Can they at least break them up? Makes no fucking sense that a bunch of petty lords and mercs are more powerful than Tilea.
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>>160492112
I do like Durthu though. I didn't particularly care for Orion to begin with, so his lackluster model doesn't bother me too much. And I doubt Orion is opposite what anyone wanted, he was so obviously going to be one of the Lord choices there simply wasn't any concept of having somebody in place of it.
It was down to Orion and WHO? And I happen to like the final answer to that question. In addition to that I'm pleased that this means that certain options were NOT selected.
It is spiteful for sure, that goes without saying.
But when people are autistic to the extent of posting the same thing over and over again to the point that they inconvenience me by having to bother to filter them, I'm happy that they didn't get what they want.
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>>160486421

You mean War of the Wild.

Woods sounds too faggy
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>>160492634
Total war is not a proper representation of the setting, and by being that close to Skavenblight kinda makes them irrelevant anyway.
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>>160492338
>>160492368

>not using units because they are bad

I thought we were trve vnderstanders here
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>>160488558

All hammerers then
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is warhammer total war worth it?
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FUCK. Formatted thinking I had saves on cloud.
Lost my entire Eye for an Eye Legendary save that was a few turns from completion. MUH FUCKING CHEEVOS,
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How will you counter the welfs as VC?
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>>160492918
yes
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>>160486049

>unless it specifies that he only pays amber to recruit elite elf units.

I can't imagine it's anything other than that, the forest spirits don't exactly have much in the way of basic shit, can't build an entire army from Dryads
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>>160492872
I don't use chariots because they're unwieldy AND bad. I do however use Free company and never use demi-gryphs.
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>>160492961

Kill them

Raise them
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>>160492961

Lots of blood knights I'd say.

In a trash vs trash infantry fight i reckon their trash would win, and their ranged advantage would wittle down more useful infantry to the point they lose most fights. There's also the giant fucking trees that are a problem if they happen to outclass crypt horrors
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>>160493075
>I do however use Free company and never use demi-gryphs.
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>Wake up
>See Wood Elves ad on Steam
>"Oh sweet, finally they're being relea--"
>17,49€

I hope CA get firebombed. Fucking 1/3rd of the gameprice for ONE (1) faction. Beastmen too, fuck me they are an awful company.
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>>160493442
nah,dlc gets added to the basegame,so unless you want to play as that faction you don't have to buy it
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>>160437774

this. im hyped for the pot smoking NEET faction.
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>>160492872
They can break up unit cohesion decently but you need to micro them in and out which can be a pain. Maybe if they hit heavier and killed more on impact they'd be better, but right now that ain't me.
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>Play Vamps against wood elves
>Basically the same shit as trying to deal with Pistoleers except every unit will be that way

I feel like it will be complete torture trying to chase down their cavalry with mine since their units will probably chop wolves to pieces
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>>160493984
that's why you play as wood elves, not against them
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>>160487469
I'VE BEEN WAITING FOR THE ELVES SINCE JULY

I DON'T CARE WHAT THE PRICE IS
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>>160494083
five HUNDRED denarii
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>>160489812
>>160488990
It will be Chaos Dwarfs, they were the only faction with an 8th addition approved army list to not have an official book
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Hey /twg/ I just finished my first shogun 2 vanilla hard campaign. My goal is to beat legendary. Do I try very hard first or should I just go legendary and learn as I fail?
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>>160493442
>can only play as two factions in the special campaign
>they are both wood elf factions
>you can't play as any other races because wood elves won that war in the book so GW would throw a fit otherwise
>this conveniently allows CA to charge 19 dollars for a minicampaign while doing only half the work they should otherwise be doing

Jews
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>>160495024
>>160493442
>poorfags
oh im laffin
>>
Honestly, all poor people should be liquidated. If you earn less than six figures a year, just throw yourself off a bridge and land head first, thanks.
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When are wood elves playable?
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>>160495530
There would still be poor people then. People who make six figures and people who make 7 figures a year.

"Haha, he only earns 32 million a year. I earn 578 million a year!"
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>>160495679
20 days from now
>>
>playing as Skarsnik Suffering
>Wipe out an Angrund stack
>Another stack fucks off and ambushes somewhere
>send scout to his last settlement
>another full stack and a third general with five units recruiting more
>again off one lvl1 settlement

F U N
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>>160492961
Wolves
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>>160495679
You can play them for an unlimited amount of time after the 8th of December
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>wood elves announced
>they look great
>not out until the 8th
What do we do now?
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>>160492961

Wraiths and Zombies.

Zombies and Wraiths.
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>>160496418
wank to anime?
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>>160496429
>wraiths
magic arrows bitchnigga
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>>160495530
I earn 6 figures in dollars (Zimbabwe)
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>>160493410
What are you trying to convey with that image. It is like hands up in guard leaning away in mild disgust right. Right? I ask because I'm legitimately not sure.

I think Reiksguard are the best looking unit in the game so I love to use them, and prefer more of an anti-infantry shock cavalry instead of an anti-everything super cavalry.

With the Free Company I simply appreciate the aesthetic visually and thematically, I also appreciate units where the lines between range and melee are blurred.
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>>160497426
>archers
flying units famalam that the counter works this way I feel is one of the worst parts of TWW balance at the moment, ranged needs a big bonuses against units in the air and maybe also act as CC against them and maybe even make a flying unit take damage if it lands after having taken ranged damage in the last few seconds. Then add a proper land/take-off button. Then you're good
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>>160497756
>tfw army of glade lord on a dragon and 19 units of warhawk riders
also how is anyone not excited that the foredt dragons were shown using their breath weapons
as far as i know chaos dragons dont do that ingame and the terrorgheist is missing its scream attack
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>>160449416
Whats going on here
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>>160497590

He's saying he does the same thing. The picture can be taken to mean "literally me"
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>>160497756
They've said that they won't do take off and landing buttons because they looked at it before when they were just starting development, and thought it would cause more problems than it would solve.
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What Difficulty do you anons play on? Especially for the newer games because I know the higher difficulty the more ridiculous bonus the ai gets. What is the recommended?
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>>160498319
VH/H
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>>160495878

I found the most effective way to play Skarsnik was to get a Waagh going and blitz Karak 8 peaks asap. Something about AI Belegar's economy on legendary is just fucked.
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>>160498319
I play on VH/VH and when I feel like I lapse into scum saving too much I force myself to start a Legendary campaign.
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>>160498126
Chaos dragons have a breath attack, it just wasn't very obvious and CA has made it more showy and visible now. Not that there's any difference between it and it's normal attack besides visuals.
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>>160495878
didn't you read the skarnisk model? It's stated that the goblin's life is suffering since they are newborn runts.

It's the gobbo way .
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>>160495530

Nigga i earn 7 figures, 16500.00
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>>160498319
>>160498418
cool thanks for the input. Also, do you anons play VH battle difficulty with combat mods or just vanilla?
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>>160498491
>model

meant Novel, or book
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>>160495530
>only six figures

kys
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>>160498496
I don't use any combat mods since I find that they all tip the scale into the players favour but it all depends on your skill level and what you find enjoyable.
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NEW THREAD FUCKING WHEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEN
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>>160498749
make one yourself if you're so flustered by it
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>>160498319
VH campaign with normal combat difficulty

Fuck the cheat combat buffs the AI gets. Forces you to stop using low moral units and shoe horns you into limited army compositions.
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>>160499264
>Fuck the cheat combat buffs the AI gets.

what? which ones? because my skarsnik difficult campaign is suffering
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>>160499264
Anon you are just shit, it limits jackshit

I find hilarious that this general is so full of "understanders of strategy" when they play on normal difficulty because of exaggerations of "artificial difficulty"
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>>160499334
Its a flat decrease to your own units moral and increases to the enemy moral.

>>160499393
I can win on legendary, in fact I have.

That doesnt change the fact that units like goblins are LITERALLY useless because the whole 'harder AI' is just moral changes which ruins low moral units.

Educate yourself before you post next time.
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>>>160499493
>>160499493
>>>160499493
>>160499493

New Elf friendly bread
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>>160499461
Sure you can normal difficulty baby :^)
I see your posts and all I see is
>waa waa why cant I win all my battles on higher difficulties waa waa it is artificial difficulty
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>>160498319
legendary obviously, are you a scrub or something?
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>>160499535
I find it amusing that you think acting stupid somehow makes you smart. Im sorry you are unable to appreciate how the game actually works.
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>>160488580
Neferata may be one of the most powerful beings in the whole Undead roster save Nagash.

I'm talking about the total package with her. She aint super at combat nor magic, but she can turn elite troops on themselves at a whim.

I NEED NEFFY IN THIS GAME!
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>>160461978
I think they probably know that people hated the mini-campaigns but where proably halfway done with WELFS one when Beastmemes came out so they just had to ship it. Maybe the next one wont have any mini campaign or maybe this one will be good
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>>160448869

riggedy rollin
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>tfw have to settle for worst elves for a whole year before I get to play my favourite
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>>160486387
6 person free for all in the original rome total war. i managed to win barely with just 1 unit of companion cavalry left
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>shitter barbarian king still kicking at 126
>my kings can't even make it to their 60th birthday
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