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First for Trapfu

>>>/r/14962600

>Balanced Pole
>Washing

One pick

>>160429089

I can play ultras really well with kb+m because of the slower paced combat but everything else - fuck it.
If you are good with kb+m, you are better with a controller.

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Show me your fashion /dsg/.

pcfcbf

How much poise is recommended for ultras after the buff?

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Asking again for more opinion
What helmet/chest ?

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>>160429261

>>160429261
What sheild is that?

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>>160428880
Speaking of Demon's Souls and the series in general :
Anyone else feel like they missed the journey to Boletaria and wanted a little more fleshed out "Journey to the Nexus"?

I'm talking about being able to return to the Tutorial and having it be like a full-fledged World 0 of Demon's, except without an Archdemon in the end?

It would be really cool to be able to return to the Tutorial (or World 0 as I like to call it) and after completing 1-2 or something, be able to continue to 0-2 and 0-3)

Dark Souls 1 kind of also felt very centralized to the very core of Lordran, but due to the focus of the game it made sense.

Dark Souls 2 had a feeling of actually traveling through a country, but on the flipside, the actual areas in Dark Souls 2 suffered at the expense of the transitional areas, and there was a lack of spatial awareness from the skyboxes.

Dark Souls 3 managed to capture a real sense of travel AND a sense of spatial awareness, which I think is really underappreciated. You get a real feeling of travel BUT the areas are also fully fledged and developed, it feels like a proper journey and an adventure, but the actual areas in the game don't suffer as a result.

What do you guys think about this?

>>160429281

Where?

>See the same white phantom in my invasions over the past few days
>I keep killing him and his hosts

maximum kek

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>>160429261

>>160428941
dead thread

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A-ashen One... (nervous laugh)

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>>160429665
Duh, it's there for the people who want some nudes

Can you really lead the pack of wolves in the painting as an invader? I want to go wolf's rain on people's asses.

Are there any leo ring builds that work at all for invasions? I was thinking of fishing for lothric knight long spear R2 counterpokes with an offhand estoc, or if that's not good enough, using the Astora GS with offhand estoc instead since the R2 while both 1H and 2H is a long thrust.

Thoughts?

>>160429748
Someone post the "acid rain" youtube comment.

>>160429792
It's a bug that happens sometimes. Usually only one will follow you but I've managed to get around 4 or so.

No idea what causes it though, it seems like it's when the host has aggro'd them but has run away. I'm really not sure.

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Dragonscale definitely doesn't work on ripostes

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>>160429261
There's almost no headpiece that looks good with Eastern armor in DaS3.. Not even the helmet that belongs to the set. Fuck you Miyazaki.

Hell, even the fucking gauntlets for the set is WRONG! WHAT THE FUCK

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ahn

>It's a laggy katana user
>His running R1s literally warp into you

Heh, nothin' personnel

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>>160429261

>>160429873
>the only legitimately fun thing that we got from the DLC is a bug

fuck me

>>160429125
In DaS1, when I first came to Blighttown, I bought the Washing Pole from Shiva and gave it a few swings.
When I went back up to Firelink, the Firekeeper was dead.
They truly weren't exaggerating about its length.

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So i'm looking for rare/uncommon attacks/animations in these games, i want to bait them out and record them, do you know of any?

So far i have these

>Bed of Chaos fireball
>Centipede Demon fireball
>Nito grab
>Ceasless Discharge stab ground
>Vendrick Dark Orb
>Imperious Knight grab
>Nutsack hollow grab
>Targray grab
>Unarmed hollow soldier grab
>4 Kings bullet hell
>Flexile sentry blender grab

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>>160429261

Early christmas poise

>>160430115
If you're searching for grab attack you can check out zoikoikum on jew tube, he made videos covering every ennemy grab attack on Sotfs/ds1

>One of the phantoms, or the host, is a caster
>There's literally nothing you can do to stop them from shitting spells at you while everyone else rushes you

I hate this

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>>160430115

I've seen this one in game only twice and I've played a lot. I don't think it's even an attack.

>>160430429
do you have more kalameet webms

it's one of my favourite bosses in the series

>>160430309
>successfully fighting off a host and one phantom
>slow but steady
>second guy invades
>kills you with vestiges to the back at ~75%

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>>160429843
>"Hey enb, I fingered your daughter and she acid rained all over my dick"

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>>160429261
>>160429616

>out of the last 20 people I invaded 15+ were Japanese
>80%+ uses Tears of Denial
>80%+ has Way of the Blue equipped
>50%+ has a caster phantom with him

holy shit

this is actually unbelievable

>>160430675
PS4, right? I wish I could be invading Japs right now

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>>160430482

I have some more, I can post them if you want to.

>>160430675
The game prioritizes people with phantoms

>>160430675
Why do you think the shitter weapons rarely get nerfed? All Asian country players are fucking plebs so nothing gets fixed. I would know since every one of them that I've met are all using shitter builds and a chink myself.

>>160430796
Pretty good boss imo

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>>160430592
I am more anime than you

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>>160430780
dat would be cool anon

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>>160430902
I will cleave you nigger

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>>160429817

Welp, initial testing looks good. Running R2 tracking isn't even that bad as long as you use it correctly and know the distance on it, sure I don't have a running R1 but that's often parry bait anyways. Worth it for the insanity that is the R2.

>>160430748

Yes, PS4.

>>160430848

I know, but the point was that literally over half of them were casters.

>>160430870

Yeah my opinion of Japanese players dropped considerably. I thought they were decent, but it turns out they're shitters too. They're almost as bad as Americans.

>Invading the same people repeatedly in the DLC

So this game's dead now?

>>160431183
>Using good weapons/builds makes you a shitter

They just play to win, it's a different mentality. They also prefer group PvP over 1v1 and don't mind ganking if DaS1 forest PvP is anything to go by.

>>160429609
Untended Graves?

>>160431157
Stacking poise with lkls and using crow quill for the running l1 attack? Pretty decent, I've been wondering what would be a good way to make use of lkls' poise buff.

>Let's make it so that Ultra users have to limit their fhashion to 3 sets to have hyper armor
>That will save the game
What did they mean by this

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Is there an equivalent to P8's spear in DaS3?

>>160431342
>now

>>160431442
I mean even just last week I was getting consistent invasions in Snowfield around this time.

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>>160430979

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Playing through the game once and then losing interest seems to be VERY common here when it comes to DaS3.

Why?

Are we just burnt out on the games?

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>>160431734

Who of you R1-spamming faggots is "Hot Waifu"?

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>>160429427
>unironically using ultras

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>>160431410
>>160431157

Poise doesn't work that way in DaS3 man, I wish it did, especially with pike class weapons since their running R1 is complete garbage (running R2 actually isn't that bad though especially since it's unparriable, but you have to be real careful about how you use it or you'll get rekt).

Using the LKLS mainly for the insane R2 leo pokes, with offhand crow quills because I can potentially 2H them for their amazing moveset to switch things up but also because they're a super high damage thrusting sword (I think the highest while sharp?), it's a bit shorter than the estoc but that doesn't matter that much since it's for people who get in close or to combo with the R2.

The R2 is insane and tracks incredibly well though, I'm still testing how useful it is in invasions but for big team fights like this in aldrich SL130, it seems good, takes some getting used to (it's not about spamming running R1's like other spears, it's about spacing so you can land counterthrust R2's that have the longest reach in the game). Still in the process of making webms from this invasion, I've got 1 more to show the effectiveness of the offhand thrusting sword against parry kings, leading to me killing the host.

I honestly don't enjoy invading in this game and I have no idea why I'm continuing to do this to myself

>>160432063
You're doing it wrong.

Post your build and weapons.

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>>160431863

I think that's all I have that were done with the model viewer.

>>160432063
watchdogs is comfy, rosaria's is just seething agony

>>160431654
shit's got next to nil replayability. scholar is brimming with it, but has its own faults

>>160431654
It's a bad game.
Know how everyone gives up after AL in 1?
2 and 3's PvE is so hard to stomach you're hard pressed to complete builds even

>>160431654
The only reason people keep playing Souls games is for PvP.

If you don't enjoy PvP then there's no reason to keep playing.

Scott did nofffin wrong

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>>160431157
>>160432038

And finally, this showing the effectiveness of the build against parry fishers (which always winds up happening against me when using spears unfortunately. pretty much every single time people are getting poked to death they get mad and pull out the parry tool).

Feels good. Interesting too, how he tried to parry the R2 and failed, makes me wonder about how difficult that move might be to parry just because of the reach on it, I know you usually have to be within a certain distance to the attacker to successfully parry, idk if it messes with that or not. That's definitely the type of behavior that deserves the point down imo, though.

*unsheaths 2kat*
*jumps in front of you*
*cuts you into a thousand pieces*
Pssshhhh
*points down*

>>160431183
>They're almost as bad as Americans.
Most ganks on PS4 are US and JP. People just like ganking because autists still invading in this kusoge.

>>160432109
thanks anon, these are neat

>>160432630
Just space it out. The WA is easy to avoid if you watch out for it.

The people that get nothing personnel'd by it are the retards who try to poisetank it. Just dodge it.

t. 2kat user

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>>160432630
*unsheaths 2kat*
*jumps over you*
*rolls backwards off the building*

Nothin' personal, kid.

>>160432063
It hurts sometimes but killing a host gives such a good feeling. Ds3 has to be my favorite for invading. Pointing down and clapping has never felt so good.

Can somebody tell me if I'm right or wrong?

I recently noticed that in DS3, when you use an attack that drains more stamina than you have left, the attack goes out at full speed anyways.
Wasn't it so that in previous games, you'd attack more slowly if you didn't have enough stamina left for the attack?

A friend is telling me I'm wrong and that I'm retarded.

Also side-question: What's the exact damage reduction you get when you use a weapon skill without enough FP left for it?

>>160432063
I have nothing similar to play. BB online is pretty dead and standing is muh favorite nonstop invasion spot in Fishing Hamlet give me nothing for hours.

Is anyone on Sony Station 4 ? Would you be willing to trade me a Old Wolf CS i have a few max upgraded items im willing to trade .

>>160433063
Try invading in real life. It's actually more balanced since the cops don't arrive nearly as fast as the Dorkmoons.

>>160432063

Stick to duels until you git gud. If you honestly don't enjoy invading in this game it's because you're bad at the game and/or are doing it wrong.

I'm successfully doing meta aldrich invasions with a long spear so it's probably because you're bad, though. Sorry not sorry.

>>160432815
Same. It has a kind of sadomasochist feel. There's no thrill winning invasions in other games because they're trivial, but when you do win and spin clap over their body in front of phantoms it feels amazing

>>160433247
I'll invade your bowels you cheeky bugger

>>160432960
yes you are retarded

>>160433356
But that's lewd anon!

>>160433343
I like getting summoned as a blue and running around casting warmth at the invader. Since people are pretty hostile toward grapes, sometimes being a grape means wearing another covenant's colors for maximum wildcard.

>>160431410

Also I'm pretty sure the running L1 of the quills has HA, doesn't it? Like, independent of poise you can't smack people out of it, except maybe with an ultra weapon but even then idk?

If so then you might be right for a use for the LKLS poise buff, but honestly I was just using it as a dual wield weapon to supplement the LKLS's leo R2 strategy and also being able to potentially swap to 2H'ing it (way better than 2H'ing an estoc). I'll have to work with the running L1's more, especially with the LKLS running R1 being absolute garbage. Interesting.

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>>160433247
>Try invading in real life
Already bored in late 90th

>>160433247
unfortunately the indictment system is really unbalanced

>>160433247
I've recently become indicted in real life, and let me tell you, it doesn't feel nearly as nice as it does in DaS1.

>>160432815
Yeah I've been invading a lot too. It's fucking miserable, even winning doesn't really feel that good to me right now. It's such a slog to chew through 15 estus plus their phantoms. I guess my last few invasions have been particularly tedious as well with people rolling around and summoning phantoms repeatedly.

I've never felt like this from invading and I've been doing this since DeS. They've just made it ridiculously unfair for the invader and it's really easy to get extra phantoms to help.

>>160433063
I wish I could go back to BB invasions

>>160433330
You're retarded

>>160432960
That never happened in previous games.

I hope they never fix the Crow Quills WA bug

>>160433610
As I suspected you're doing it wrong.

You shouldn't have to got through 15 estuses to kill someone.

>>160433602
Tell us what happened anon. Did you at least get some good IRL hatemail from it?

>>160432815
>>160433343

The fact that it's so difficult especially against ganks, and that especially when you're just starting out you die a lot (and even when you git gud you probably die a lot), it makes winning feel that much better.

I mean isn't that why we play souls games in the first place? Like the bosses being so hard you die like 10 or 20 times and get super frustrated and you finally win and that release of all that tension is like a dry orgasm, right? Invasions are the same way, except you can do them forever and they're always different unlike boss fights. Never know wtf is going to happen, even though you get better are recognizing patterns and how to counter various situations.

>"My world, my rules"

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>>160433610
>It's such a slog to chew through 15 estus plus their phantoms.
>I guess my last few invasions have been particularly tedious as well with people rolling around and summoning phantoms repeatedly.

>You're retarded

Oh my god the irony is fucking palpable, lmao you're a joke. Uninstall today, right fucking now. Uninstall the game.

>>160433825
Ganks really depend on the players' skill level. I'd rather fight 3 scrubs than 1 player who knows what he's doing.

It seems like most gankers are below average skill level but when you happen upon a group of gankers who are also competent players there's really not much you can do.

>>160433692
What bug?

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>>160432960
>Wasn't it so that in previous games, you'd attack more slowly if you didn't have enough stamina left for the attack?

No, but if you go to negative stamina, your stamina recharges more slowly to the point where you can attack or roll again.

Also, I think that attacks from almost zero stamina don't do as much damage but don't quote me on that.

>>160431654
>Why?
Dark Souls 3 is a great game, but replaying the game is the exact same experience every single time since you can't vary the order of tackling the content.

You could theoretically say that it doesn't affect much, but every world in Demon's Souls for example has essentially 5 different "difficulty modes" depending on which order you tackle them in, and this isn't even factoring in the World Tendency mechanic which actually changes the levels itself.

Dark Souls 1 has 4 directions to which you can go to after midgame (although 1 of them is kind of a stump, there's only one boss there) and then you've got the DLC.

Dark Souls 2 gives you 4 directions to go in the beginning, then you hit the linear mid-endgame but at that point you can also 3 DLCs aimed at high-level characters open which you can do in different orders depending on how you feel like.

Dark Souls 3 doesn't really offer any choice in the maingame except for the optional areas (2 of which are good, 1 is kinda shite) and the DLC. When DLC 2 arrives, there's probably more incentive to play, since you can decide to tackle either DLC1 or DLC2 or the optional base game areas, so there's 3 forks.

Despite people saying that DS3 is shit tho', I love the game, just saying that the lack of variety on playthroughs in the main thing I'm disliking in it.

>>160433825
DS3 estus and invasion system sucks. Too many favors for ganks. Even cosplay "pvp" works better in ganks. BB high speed, high damage mambo jambo against ganks is real thrill.

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Is the size of the dragons in pic related accurate?

Because holy shit, Seath is a big guy.
And i feel Gaping Dragon is way bigger

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>>160433762
>Tell us what happened anon. Did you at least get some good IRL hatemail from it?
Got in a car accident, resulting some minor car body damage, but almost two months later that fraudulent cunt is suing me for 2.500 eurodollars injury award.
And while my insurance would cover the damage, they're trying to refute the entire thing in court, which - thanks to the extensive bureaucracy - will take several months and probably several court appearances.
Luckily, I also have legal costs insurance, but it's still annoying as fuck and upsets me.

>>160434181
>No, but if you go to negative stamina, your stamina recharges more slowly to the point where you can attack or roll again.

Also, if you're sprinting and your stamina reaches 0, you won't be able to sprint until its full again. However if you stop running and let it recharge before reaching 0, you can start sprinting again at any point.

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Is the Lothric Knight Sword good? literally I've never seen anyone using it.

>>160433762
I don't really want to play some kind of buff one-shot combo build though

>>160433965
You're retarded

>>160434243
U U
U U

>>160434064
>but when you happen upon a group of gankers who are also competent players there's really not much you can do.

That's just how it goes, you win some you lose some. Just gotta either know when to crystal out or just fight anyways and take it as a challenge even if you only have like a 5% chance of winning, not caring if you lose because of course you don't actually lose anything as an invader. I'm just in it for the fun.

That said I normally do either low-middle level invasions where I almost never run into seeds or meta level aldrich invasions which are usually more like team battles where people are dying and invading/being summoned in left and right with an ever changing flow of battle and fireballs being thrown everywhere.

Invasions on the whole are insanely fun, an unique experience you can't get in any other game, so the few times I run into some bullshit like a guy who summons 3 phantoms AND red soapstone phantoms AND seeds, I just leave, no big deal.

>>160432960
Don't listen to those tards. That did indeed happen, in Dark Souls 2.

>>160434080

The one where you use the WA to jump down great distances that would kill you even if you're wearing the cat ring and land unharmed

>>160433825
>playing souls games for difficulty

>>160434243
kalameet and gaping are definitely bigger than that, red dragon looks too small to me as well, and the undead dragon there doesnt have legs so its not full size

>>160434501

Novel difficulty, where you don't know what's gonna happen and every invasion is a new experience because you're with real people not AI's.

What do you play souls games for? The lore? kek what a faggot.

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>>160434243

>>160434389
1HKO reds with CSS in ganks under obscuring ring is more fun is Shit Souls 3.

>>160434643
STOP

>>160434278
That sucks anon. Insurance companies are scumbags.

>>160434332
>i want to win
>i don't want to use effective strategies

You have no one to blame but yourself.

>>160434389
Agreed. You won't win every invasion but if you play smart you can win the vast majority.

Invading is the most fun you can have in these games.

>>160434668
>>160434643
no keep going

When should I do the ds3 dlc?
I'm level 50 now and just finished smouldering lake, and next up would be the ice castle zone.

Should I do the area inbetween that? Will it spoil something or things like that?

What is the mindset of those who wear the Fallen Knight set?

>>160434645

What people don't realize is ultimately it's your game and you can do whatever you want within the confines of the rules of the game that you find fun. If that's fun to you, go for it, man. For me that's even more boring than duels.

>>160434737
60SL +6/7 weapon

>>160434643
Add priscella in there and it's a portrait of a fight for child custody.

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>>160434721
>>160434643
S T O P
T
O
P

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>>160429261

>>160434761
What's bad about it?
I don't personally like the look but I can see how somebody would like the trenchcoat-over-armor thing

>>160434881

What's even the point of wearing a hood over the helmet

>>160434634
Gameplay, of course. The difficulty is casual as fuck and online interactions can't properly channel challenge since players can't make most of their skill as in other games.

>>160434716

Also if you watch there are plenty of streamers that do "gank spanks" regularly, fuck you have people like iSkys who do win streaks up to like 50+ invasion wins IN A ROW at around SL70-80 +8. There are multiple people who do this sort of stuff too, and these are just the people who actually stream it, not even including all of the people who put shit up on youtube and further still all of the people who don't record their shit and just play the game (i.e. most people).

I mean, I say git gud half jokingly but in all honesty people just need to legitimately git gud at the game and stop crying so much, because if you're actually losing all the time you're probably just bad in one way or another.

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>>160434643
My imagination shows lewd scenes

Do texture replacements trigger a softban or am i completely safe from that?

>>160434326
its only slightly less damage but you get the double thrust r2s, and the small boost to crits. i like it

>>160434737
think of the tier titanite you get in the level, its pretty much all large shards so whenever youre around +5 weapons

>>160434973
I mean, maybe it's raining

>>160435136
BloodBorne is the only game with a rainy level

>>160435245
Drangleic Castle was rainy.

>>160434973
dont you read descirptions? its all supposed to be hiding the expensive armor underneath so people dont recognize it

I get killed in 3 hits by great curved swords, i thought they were meant to be shit. Granted, the game does keep matching me with overlevelled fuccbois

>>160434985
The problem is that people like this guy >>160434332 try to invade with their fun silly cosplay build and complain when they get wrecked.

>>160434761
We mock edge but most people like it.
See all the ines using etiquette

>>160435286
Shit, You're right.

>>160435389
>>160435286
>>160435245
It was raining in Valley of Defilement

>>160434737
SL 65-75.
It's technically recommended to wait until you've cleared Lothric Castle (especially since one of the bosses of the DLC is the hardest boss in DS3) so if you haven't cleared DS3 before, I'd wait until that.

>>160434501

Difficulty is probably a wrong word to use in my opinion, but I'd say that if the Souls games weren't challenging, they wouldn't be fun since there would be no point in using the depth of the combat system if you game didn't provide enough challenge for it. For example, just today I had to defuse the Hell that is DS1 Catacombs Bonewheel skeleton room without using a shield by baiting the skeletons to come at me one at a time, then use the environment to cockblock them and attack them. It was thrilling because the game was providing a challenge that I couldn't just get through by just R1 mashing, or even if I could, I'd probably have to be willing to sink in a lot more retries.

But at the same time challenge presented was fair, I was able to utilize the game mechanics to it's full potential, only I had not prepared in advance, which formed a part of the challenge for me.

>>160435381
Dark Souls is a pretty edgy game to begin with. If you don't like edgy things you'd probably prefer playing something like Overwatch or WoW or whatever.

>>160435354
I use a quality build and I never complained about getting wrecked. I said invasions were tedious.

>>160435346
>I get killed in 3 hits by great curved swords
Nothing wrong. Look at their AR.

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Need help for homoprinces, pc and pass is dsg
I'm waiting right at grand archives bonfire

>>160435448
The atmosphere on that area was so well done.

>>160435505
If you don't enjoy invasions don't do them. Nobody's forcing you to do them unless you're farming pale tongues or something.

Also your typical duelfag quality build might not work well in invasions. You need an extremely damaging weapon to be able to take out phantoms before they can chug.

>>160429568
Not sure, because the first area it's purposely designed as tutorial and the return will feel pointless, specially in ng+.

With DS 2 i had all the time the trouble that i didn't felt like real sequel like the third and i always wanted to overlap Drangleic with Lordran and make sense of the geography.

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>>160435245
>>160435286
>>160435448

Drangleic Castle
Valley of Defilement
Archdragon Peak

>>160435354
3's invasions are different.
Whereas in 1 you have to hold back and impose self-restrictions like not doing more than 2 backstabs in a row to not stomp them and duels are where all the tryhard players flock to, in 3 duels are the more casual fights where anything goes while invasions are the place not to hold back

>>160435620
Hell yes. Its my #1 favorite area in the series, BB included. People always say Latria is the most atmospheric, but VoD shits on it imo

>Try to farm skeletors for a dark mask to do a gravetender cosplay
>By the time it drops I have 69 cracked eye orbs

>>160435485
>Dark Souls is a pretty edgy game to begin with
Nope. Look at Reaper on Overwatch or armor/weapons in WoW

>>160435595
Omw, need to start up.
I'm terribly rusty though, so i might fuck up

>>160435758
Sure but the overall atmosphere of those games is colourful and cartoonish with a few exceptions.

Souls games are all grimdark.

>>160435559
they attack pretty fast though, what the fuck is the point of my yhorms machete if I could just use some fast buffed cheese-sword

>never actually been on reddit before
>go to the reddit dark souls page
>guy made a big post about how people need to behave themselves after duels, and need to not be "sore losers" by pointing down

Welp, that is enough of that.

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>>160435626
>i always wanted to overlap Drangleic with Lordran and make sense of the geography.

Drangleic isn't at the same place as Lordran tho'.

>Not sure, because the first area it's purposely designed as tutorial and the return will feel pointless, specially in ng+

Well yeah, but I'm talking in like a potential current gen remake where the area could be redone with more interconnections like DaS1's Asylum and the challenge adjusted accordingly.

Did you know that you flat out can't die currently in Demon's Souls' tutorial until you get to Vanguard?

>>160435485
There are limits of edge. The universe being grim is overstated. For instance, demons aren't edgy in DaS, they're on par with demons in most other media

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>>160435857
Too late, sorry mate.

https://unkindler.github.io/caps/

Is this up to date?

It doesn't seem consistent with the Mugenmonkey build planner.
On the Mugenmonkey build planner, vitality gives 1.5 points of defense per level even after 40. This little thing however says that it only gives you <1 per point there.

>>160434761
>>160435381
Anybody who tells you they didn't wear the fallen knight armor on their first playthrough for at least a little bit is lying.

>>160435758
>a cartoonish game has a couple of stand out caricatures in the 'bad guy' trope
wow, NOBODY could have ever expected that one

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>>160434761
>What is the mindset of those who wear the Fallen Knight set?
"Hey, cool, a free armor!" " And it's pretty decent too, better than my starting armor set!".

All the pisspants jokes aside, it looks pretty cool, but like the Garg Helm, Vengarl Helm and the Drangleic armor, it has become the universal "clueless noob"-flag.

I used Fallen Knights for a while on my first playthrough and I have no shame.

>>160435864
Grimdark =/= current definition of 'edgy.' The whole edgy meme is retarded and needs to end.

>>160435901
They posted it as a pasta last thread. Lots of quality dumping

>>160436000
>demons aren't edgy in DaS, they're on par with demons in most other media

Demons are edgy in most media. Dark Souls is no exception.

I don't get why people think that edgy is a bad thing. I can understand if it's cheesy and over the top ala Coldsteel but the dark and edgy feeling of Dark Souls is a trademark of the series. It's done tastefully.

>>160436075
I somehow managed to miss the armor set on my first playthrough.

>>160435901
threads calling people out on etiquette are near-constant there

>>160435883
hyper armor and range

>>160436075
I put it on to see what it is and thought "wish I could use this helmet without the hood" and I went back to my deserter armor

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When it is acceptable to use legion etiquette if ever ?

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>>160435901
>Decide to check out r/darksouls3
>"hey guys, planning to level up to SL148 but I need help..."
>"Check out my new unique build, I like to use CCS and it's quality btw"
>"Hey guys how do I use black flame? I can only spam it 8 times before I run out of stamina"
>"Need help with Vordt, please put your summon signs down by the fog gate thanks"

>>160435914
Yeah i eventually realize that, but backing to my first playthrouh of DS 2 i was hoping something more akin to what they did with the third.

And i will love a redone of DeS with the broken pillar as an actually playable area, just that.

>>160436224
>calling posts threads
Is there any doubt you're from reddit?

>>160436313
>>160435901
Don't forget about
>THOUSAND ganksquad apologists
>thousand CCS/WP/meta shit apologists
>healing apologists

>>160436308
I use it on my "blade master" character using the chaos blade before and after fights in place of a bow.

If it fits the chatacter just use it. Fuck what /dsg/ thinks.

>>160436396
people call them threads on this website as well you fucking moron

>>160436396
nevermind I misread your post

I accept full responsibility and will not retaliate if you choose to call me a cocksucker

>>160435914
What do you mean you can't die ? Does your hp bar stop at 1hp ?

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>>160431426

Anybody?

Is Lothric K***ht Long Spear the closest one?

>>160436396
>>160436496
shh he only goes on generals and has no concept of how anything works

>>160436196
>I don't get why people think that edgy is a bad thing.
they're 19 year old nerds who secretly made sonic self-insert OC donuts when they were 13, and now they make fat black female characters with big noses named "cuckmeister memefiend" to demonstrate their sophisticated, multi-layered ironic internet humor

>>160436308
Ironically.
If you use it thrice you did good

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>>160436308
Even on cosplay Abyss Watcher builds seems a bit unnerving.
>no presenting the sword/standing held posture gesture
da fugg

>>160435901
Yeah, the reddit community for dark souls is some of the most pathetic, cucked out, bruised ego shit I've ever seen in my life.

>D-D-DID THIS FAGGOT JUST POINT ME DOWN?
>HEH, I'LL SHOW HIM BY MAKING A REDDIT POST

Still don't understand why meta is not 40/40 int/fth with dark CCS, healing and vow.

>It's a mage in the arena
>Can't hit with spells
>Suddenly fucking warps all over the place and I eat a bunch of shit
>Point down

I got outplayed

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>>160436783
>No gesture that would allow me to cosplay as my favorite moonlight addled horse-man-beast

But muh moonlight

Does the horsekick ring work with valorheart's shieldbreak?

>>160436854
I've always found it hilarious how triggered people get from a simple gesture.

I'm still trying to figure out what the most triggering gesture is. Point Down? Spinning Clap? Welcome?

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>>160436609
>they're 19 year old nerds who secretly made sonic self-insert OC donuts when they were 13, and now they make fat black female characters with big noses named "cuckmeister memefiend" to demonstrate their sophisticated, multi-layered ironic internet humor
Pretty accurate for most ironic fugly faces I've seen.

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Why do i keep being invaded by people that have less than 1000hp and keep r1 mashing ? Are those the same people that complain about ganks ?

>>160436920
because scott hasn't made a video about it of course

>>160436974
point down

>>160436986
Believe it or not, people enjoy invasions even if they're not good at them and/or are completely undergeared for them. I don't understand why you'd make a post like this gloating over that kind of player when they've not harmed you in any way

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>>160436308
Never because By My Sword looks better.

>>160435901
That's the thing i've never understood. This game encourages people to behave in a assholish way. But at some point a vocal minority decided that taunt people in a game where you literally invade people to stole their humanity it's bad.

>>160436974
There is no better feeling than clapping in the face of phantoms who just witnessed you brutally mow down their host.

>>160436986
That's the PVE meta

>>160436920
Because vow sucks

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>>160436952
>chop him up for half health
>his sword echos to him
>suddenly turns from mad beast to sentient, valorous knight
>chorus rises as he chops you to piece for his hard earned blood
10/10 boss

So how do I actually punish chugging in DS3?

It feels to me like no matter what I do, even if I stick directly to the hosts ass and am prepared to hit that sprint attack right as he does something, he gets the chug off and it usually tops them off. Of course I punish them right away, but then the whole thing is basically reset.

I mean it's not like they're beating me because of it, they just run out of estus eventually, but it's still really fucking annoying to play against a person who will chug 12 times before finally dying.

Is this just the meta or can you actually cut that sort of behavior? Considering buying 5000 lloyds talismans

>guy jump attacks through a great hammer hit and kills me

th-thanks poise

>>160437173
Because they gradually pandered more and more to those people.
Just check 2 and 3

>>160436974
>dried finger 120SL run
>afk for one min
>guy invade me
>CCS
>roll away from him with shit HP
>trying to chug
>he swap for WP
>trying to gesture
>he keep attaking
>Point Down, shit throw, clapping
Yeah. It's really triggering

>>160437417
either stay on their butt 24/7 or lloyd them

>>160436023
Please respond, which one of the two is wrong?

Make 99 VIG viable /dsg/

>>160437417
>So how do I actually punish chugging in DS3?
The only ways I've consistently done so is throwing talismans with no lock-on, on wake-up or try to get a lucky crossbow/spell shot. Punishing estus is much more difficult compared to the other games and that includes DS1.

>>160437136
As an invader, I've been harmed by plenty of bad invaders.

>oh good somebody else invaded, I needed backup to fight these gankers
>okay friend, just fight that guy 1v1, I'll keep these 2 off of you
>oh you died in 3 seconds
>oh

>>160437560
I really do stay on their butt already but unless I use a really lightning fast weapon, I cannot stop them from just chugging + tanking the next two hits.

>>160437618
I hate it when location-based invaders team up with the gankers and try to attack you.
Like do they not realize that the gankers will turn on them?

>>160437685
Just use a weapon that does >300 damage per hit and hit them twice as they chug.
If they have 2 phantom buttbuddies protecting them you're out of luck, use enemies, the envirement or focus on killing the unembered phantoms.

>>160437860
Is the zweihander really this terrible? I do like 200 damage per hit to most hosts and I have plenty of dex/str

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>>160436308
I had an Abyss Watcher cosplay, I used to put my sign down and help randoms with the boss. I used the gesture after we killed them. I though it was nice.

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>tfw stopped some faggot host using friedes scythe WA with perseverance and proceed to bash him to death

>>160437612
why cant from just fucking fix the throw aiming with items. the fact that its literally impossible to hit anybody at any range with bombs and talismans while locked on is so fucking stupid

>>160437693
>doing aldritch invasions
>host runs off to summon more phantoms while i keep fighting a sunbro
>just after the next guy gets summoned in a red invades
>red kills me instead of the sunbro
>immedietely gets shit on by the host and 2 more phantoms before i load out
like pottery

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>>160437580
EZ

>>160438190
I hate it

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who knew that she is was so pretty?
dare i say cute?

>>160438323
I WANT TO MAKE SISTER FRIEDE A MOMMY FRIEDE

>>160437991
It's... not great. I like Lothric Knight a lot, but you need to keep a resin or bundle on it to make it worthwhile. Profaned is good too.


My sorcerer does over 200 damage per swing with a crystal longsword. Something is wrong with your build or weapon.

>>160437164
Nice broken wrist you got there

>>160438352
friede is barren desu

source: i hit that raw ass

>>160431120
Do the JoJo pose

>>160438083
>throw items with lock on don't work on non stationary targets

Who'd have thought?

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>>160438418
YOU GOT A PROBLEM WITH WEIRD SKELETAL STRUCTURES, BOY?

>>160431342
Souls game a are always dead on PC

>>160438584
>Hallowing 100

>>160438323
Player characters will never, ever look this good.

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Anybody up for a quick romp through Undead Settlement? This is probably my 7th time going through this area so it'll be relatively quick.

Just a quick stop by the giant tower, unlocking the Mound Makers, then the boss.

Is my boy Nana here?

>>160438515
>throw item locked on
>host is standing still chugging
>it flies straight into the ground 3 body lengths away from him
it has nothing to do with movement, it literally undershoots by 20-40 degrees every throw

>>160438715
Why are you holding your lucerne upside down ?

>>160435635

This.

When you get to a certain point of skill in DaS3 duels become really boring and easy, if you bring in any good weapon/build you can just stomp 95+% of players. You only have to focus on 1 guy and the surroundings are pretty inconsequential.

Invasions are the opposite, you've gotta be aware of your surroundings, of multiple opponents, of your healing vs. theirs, of the levels design, of the mobs (either to aid you or to avoid them if there's a seed or it's an enemy like a crab or crow that can hit invaders mistakenly even without seed), more invaders may show up at any time and who knows whether they'll betray you or not, might have to chase down the host if he's running away to try to summon more phantoms, etc. So on top of that with the odds stacked against you, you feel free to come up with the most OP builds and strategies you can think of to try to even the odds combined with your skill at the game.

There's just a lot more depth to it. Even if you lose it's thrilling and gets your heart pounding, which is the feeling I search for. When you win against all odds after a long invasion it's an amazing feeling you can't really find anywhere else, it's rare. Ultimately the feeling you get from doing invasions is the real reward, the adrenaline rush I guess you'd say.

>>160438761
Because nips can't type "medieval weapon technique" into Google.

I was really disappointed as the Lucrene has been one of my favorite weapons since Demon's.

FC????

>>160438828
it was fun but now it's a ded gaym

I hoped the dlc would pull some more people back in but now the numbers are worse than pre-dlc.

>people unironically pull the plug when they get invaded

I thought this was just a meme, but it happened 4 times to me today.

Holy shit people are actually this sad and pathetic. How low of a human being are you that you feel the need to turn off your console, in Dark Souls III no less.

>>160439034
>host lets me 1v1 his overleveled phantom
>win
>point at the host and start walking toward him
>'a connection error occurred'

>>160438878
that's funny because the mirdan hammer was top tier and the lucerne is hot garbage

also there's nothing "wrong" with holding it like that. do you think the spike is for show?

>>160439034
In a game where there is a bonefire every 2 feets, where the game vomit embers on you

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>>160438878
>Because nips can't type "medieval weapon technique" into Google.
Because you can use in two ways, autist

Fuck, i have to kill the Deacons to get to Yhorm, don't i?

>>160439034
The only time I've ever done this was years ago, the very first time I got invaded in Dark Souls 1, as I played it before Demon's.

It happened right after reaching André and spooked me so hard I alt + F4'd the game.

I've never quit from an invasion since and always try to have fair duels, or let my coop partner fight first.

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>>160438486
Fresh meme.

>>160439129
The point was always the most important part of the weapon. There's a reason it was called a bec de corbin.

>>160439034
>>160439153
I don't think they're afraid of dying so much as that they're just scared of PVP.

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>>160436470
>you're invading MY world, I'll do whatever *I* want to get you out of it you invader piece of shit! Even if that includes summoning 3 of my SL800 friends and also 1 more friend through the red soapstone, it's in the game so it's okay!

Every time...

>>160439207
no.

>>160439034
You don't need to turn console tho. Because DS3 is kusoge, when open something like video editor it disconnect you into main menu. In BB it's only stop online functions until you tab back

>>160439373
Pretty sure i do.
You can't get through the fog in Irithyll without the doll, or am i having a brain fart?

>>160437417
>unzip katana
>spam WD attacks

heh.. nice try kid...

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>>160439269
>tfw someone fall for my whiff and try to stagger me

>>160439329
MY world MY rules anon

>>160439481
you can get thrown through the wall if the dogodile uses the right attack in the right spot

>>160439329
It's hard to refute this though. They are correct.

Show them no mercy and expect none in return.

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>>160439280
>bec de corbin
>"raven's beak"
I've now found a reason to make a Lucrene build, thanks.

>>160439658

On the one hand it's not their fault, it's FROM's fault.

On the other hand, they're still gigantic gaping assholes.

>>160439629
Which one?

>>160439779
Now you just need to decide if you want to look like a footman or a dismounted knight.

>>160439814
In their minds invaders are the assholes invading their world and pillaging their embers.

The only thing that really triggers me is seed. You should NOT be able to use a seed if you've summoned phantoms. Fix this shit Miyazaki.

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>>160429963
If you're gonna be a good girl, you gotta do it correctly.

>>160438878
Mirdan hammer was used with the hammer side facing the armor in Demon's, but with using the beak is equally correct and works great with the Leo Ring.

Also, Lucerne and Crescent axe are actually at their very best in Dark Souls 3.

>>160440057
I think being able to use seeds with phantoms is alright because it makes things more fun. You shouldn't be able to see red summon signs when invaded though because you can abuse that to get embered phantoms if they are your friends.

>>160440057
I haven't used it much but are alluring skulls good against seeded worlds?

>>160440243
>crescent axe good in ds3
I mean, they just turned it into a regular old boring ass halberd. If you think that's better than a mediocre, but unique weapon...

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>invade passworded ganksquad
>world is dried fingered and seeded (despite all the enemies being dead)
>dedicated mage
>second red toggles on a curse weppy
I don't know how to feel. Cheating is still ultimately cheating and ganking is pretty much a given at higher SL's so.

>>160440057
That doesn't fix shit since they can kill the mobs beforehand. Is it hard to code for invaders to be able to summon red/purple signs in other words? It would be interesting.

>>160440265
You can only hold 10, but it could be useful for exemple with lothric knights

>attempting to get dmb legitimately
>after an hour of farming silver knights at 300 discovery i have one item
>havent been summoned as a darkmoon a single time
>switch to aldritch because im bored
>immediately get back to back invasions
>2 or 3 aldritch faithfulls and usually reds too
>no blues in sight
i swear to god blue summons were never fixed

>>160440057
just black crystal and waste their seed or sit in a safe corner until more invaders come

>fighting cancer redditor uploader
>he's using estoc and bkshield
>can't deal with my long spear and bastard sword
lmao
reminder that people idolize these crooks

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>>160440474
Life is pain

>>160440506
Who'd you fight?

>>160440568
that shitty dark souls 2 player
nyffenschwander i think
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bxZhpe6e094 this shitter

>>160440057
>In their minds invaders are the assholes invading their world and pillaging their embers.
You know it's not true. It can be true if everyone are saints and internet doesn't exist. They do it because they can gank EZ in DS3

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>>160440596

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>>160440305
>I mean, they just turned it into a regular old boring ass halberd
It's moveset shite in both DS1 and DS2.
Just one move repeated over and over in DS1, it looks garbage. In Demon's Souls and DS3 the moveset looks and feels more fluid.

Yeah, it has nothing over the Hunter's Axe from BB, but as far as the Souls series is concerned, it's the best in DS3.

>>160440596
Canonically correct, as Solaire links the fire in his world, it means that he'll be included in Soul of Cinder.

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>>160440596
What was he decent at?

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>>160438636
>Player characters will never, ever look this good.
All it takes is effort

>>160440675
Fought him a few times and he kept trying to setup parry me despite eating kick follow ups, rofl.

>>160440857
AAAAAAAAAAAYYYYYYYYYY

>>160440857
ayyy

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>>160440857

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>>160440857
My sides

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Is the Sunlight Straight Sword's buff less effective in pvp vs. other players like oath of sunlight is? How does the sword compare to the longsword's damage at 40/40?

>>160440843
Again, it's just a halberd now. Atleast it was unique before.

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Anybody needs help with pve?

PC

>>160441274
Yes it is. It actually has a higher AR than longsword at 40/40/16

>>160440804
I ran in to eight different Guts/Gatsu/Gattsu subhumans on day one of AoA. They were ALL dogshit.

>>160441364
only if you have a level 70 character in DaS with some bosses alive

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>>160438636
I tried.

>>160441687
That's pretty good, anon.

>>160441687
keep trying

Why is every invasion 3v1 in DS3?

It's not entirely unfun, I kind of enjoy it, but does it actually only put you with gankers now?

If so, is there a covenant to have 1v1 fights? I'm gonna miss that otherwise

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>>160441535
bretty good.

Looks like I've found my new weapon.

>>160440314
Ganking is part of the game.

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>>160441625
Not really, sorry lad

>>160441687
eyes are too big and the jaw is a little weird. a good effort

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Does anyone have the most recent version of pic related, or is this the last one collage anon made?

Is 120 too high for general NG+ PVEfaggin?

Im debating between a Knight for mknmax or a Deprived for balanced and efficient fuckery.

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>kinda want to fight Friede again because it was a really good fight
>no character near her
>"Maybe co-op isn't too bad. If the host is shit, it's practically soloing it anyway."
>drop sign
>every host has at least 2 summons already in addition to Gael
>the "boss fight" is literally just beating up a defenseless person

I just fought a dude who was throwing spears at me. It seemed to be an actual equippable weapon.

What's that spear called? I need it

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>host sends blue phantom home

>>160442319
You don't like bullying her ?

>>160442319
PREPARE
TO
DIE
:^)

>>160442338
The Dark Hollow Spear.
You only get it if you complete Yuria's questline and kill the Shrine Handmaid.

>>160442181
I'm currently steamrolling through NG+ with just my greatclub, I'd say it's too high for PvE as a pure str hyperarmor build

>>160442338
Follower Javelin, a spear with a unique art from the DLC. Damage isn't great but it's so satisfying when you huck one at a faggot trying to sip.

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>>160442440
I'd bully her in other ways.

>>160442405
>blue phantom doesn't want to fight red so runs away from us
>me and red keep staring at blue so I decide to just send him home

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>>160442319
So it really is Maria 2.0

>>160442614
thanks bubba

>>160429427
Seconding this question and recommending that >>160432014 should end his miserable life

>>160440057
Popping a seed should allow friendly fire

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Please post some of these cool and nice boss health bar memes

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>>160443235

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>>160443235

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>>160443235

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>>160443235

Imagine Velka confronting you in the DLC and you have no pickle-pee

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>>160441364
Hello, fellow stalkerfag

>>160443497
every time

>>160442319

We all know summoning phantoms is Souls' built-in ''Very Easy'' mode.

I cannot fathom how anyone can derive any sort of satisfaction from beating a boss with phantoms. Co-op'ing with friends on subsequent playthroughs to have some fun; sure, but doing it on your first playthrough is basically just conceding.

>>160443235
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g3nR_4F1anI

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>>160443235

I don't have a gif tho...