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Shadowverse is a class-based collectible card game akin hearthstone /hsg/
The Steam version launched on October 28th.
Platforms: iOS, Android, Steam (http://store.steampowered.com/app/453480/)

Previous thread:

Official Website:
https://shadowverse.com/

Card Database / Deck Editor:
https://shadowverse-portal.com/

Intro Guide/FAQ:
http://pastebin.com/xNmQuDzR (read this if you're new)
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Ibw62rcFMrkvWl_KPKUuRC_0f7LbvwE27ubQ-EJo0oQ/edit?usp=sharing

Take 2 Card Rankings:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1k55fDS9LpX66H-pm5EgGouqwQSCF-sje-o5UwrXUwdI/htmlview#

Get your cheat sheets here: http://imgur.com/a/Dpbmh

Friend list:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1DKn9RybTNTQ3a8cm-68KvDOHCFBRK8VDD2JVO8HTUWg/edit?usp=sharing
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Some anon made an all-in-one Steam undub and uncensor for the lazy or mentally handicapped. Open wide and enjoy responsibly:

https://mega.nz/#!tl1mGaIQ
Decryption key: !tsu910nR6lT_xTQAx9QUNI_96DLJ0mvgIwwThp5lPS4
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Artwork of all the cards, ripped from the game:
https://mega.nz/#!ekIjXaza!qKXIP9x0tZ5ooNDXk-HHudlUBiZR_Zt3pmF4PhYMxrI

Come here if you want to search for card artworks:
http://www.corpetit.com/public/rage_of_bahamut/

Search by artists:
http://seesaawiki.jp/mnga_bahamut/
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Filling Medusa with semen!
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New expansion expected around the end of year.
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Forgot
Previous thread: >>160398008
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Play The Elder Scrolls™: Legends.
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>>160401429

You're waifu will never be viable.
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Why aren't Earth Rites its own Leader?
Why did they mix this crap in with Runecraft?
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LET'S DO THIS RIGHT
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Riajuus DIE
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from last thread. I am the guy who posted the blood list.
>>160400928
probably. someone posted a master list one time and they swapped them out for wardrobe raiders.

>>160401082
From my experience, its pretty decent against d-shift as long as you go mulligan aggressively for the low stuff. Feels like a coinflip overall because its real burst doesn't kick in until turn 7.
Storm Haven is usually easier than Seraph ironically because as long as they can't burst you down completely you can usually come back, and vampire queen is a relatively decent stall. Elena is harder because it can get hard to set them up into combo range, but if you can weather the storm you can get them out of heals and punish the aria turns with revelation. Neither matchup is fantastic.
Aggro is actually pretty good because they have to set you into vengeance to win generally Just mulligan for diabolic drain and such. This deck beats all the sword decks and aggro blood I play against pretty well.
I am A3, so im not master rank or anything, but this is my secondary deck when I get tired of storm haven
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>>160401562
>Blood card that doesn't go face
Shit forever desu
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>>160401562
Medusa would be viable if any card in this game could survive for longer than 1 turn.
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REMINDER IF YOU PLAY ONE OF THE FOLLOWING CLASSES YOU'RE CANCER:
Swordcraft
Forestcraft
Runecraft
Dragoncraft
Shadowcraft
Bloodcraft
Havencraft
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>>160401509
Will they give players a bunch of free packs then too? Or would they just do that for new accounts created at the time of the expansion?

I got like 25 Darkness Evolved packs when I first loaded up the game. But I shouldn't expect that to happen again, should I?
Would it be wise to save like 20% of your gold each day for the sole purpose of being able to blow all that stored up gold on the next expansion?
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>>160401569
We'll get a proper Alchemy Craft
And it will have Cali as the leader!
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>>160401562
she should gain rush when vengeance is active
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>>160401662

Knock knock
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>>160401637
>go face
Newfag here, what does that mean?
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>>160401679
I want to play Bellcraft with Bellringer Angel as my leader though. But Cygames won't let me.
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>>160401679
Y-you too.
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>>160401715
Play it off as her being pissed off at Perseus and we have a deal.
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>>160401748
It means aiming for the enemy leader.
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Translations for the radio show when?
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>>160401730
He dies. And then he dies again.
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>>160401690
I think everyone got 10 Darkness packs for free when that launched.

Saving or not depends entirely on you.
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>New Class released
>Poorcraft
>Golds and Legendaries don't exist for this class
>Leader is just a peasant, struggling to make ends meet
>story is mainly about bitching at the other leaders for being a bunch of richfags in fancy armor and clothing

Would you play it?
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>Merlin
>Bloody Mary x2, 1 animated
>Odin
>Dark Angel Olivia
>Tsubaki
>Jeanne D'Arc

I'm a filthy net decking Hearthstone convert.

Should I roll again?
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Why isn't Garuda used in any of the Seraph lists?
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>>160402019
You want to win on turn 9, so the reduction needs to be 3 mana or less each.
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>>160402016
is a good roll, keep it
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>>160402019
Why would he be?
Seraph literally doesn't care at all about the opponent's health total, and Garuda is too expensive to combo.
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>>160402019
Because he's shit for seraph. You don't care about doing damage to them, you care about staying alive.
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Shadowverse Channel
https://www.youtube.com/user/DJmaxH/search?query=Shadowverse+%E3%83%81%E3%83%A3%E3%83%B3%E3%83%8D%E3%83%AB
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>>160402105
>>160402126
Isn't he a decent backup in case you end up just going face? The value you get seems too good.
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>>160402016
>Merlin
>Tsubaki
Keep that fucking roll and read the intro guide.
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Trying to be good with forestcraft in T2, but can anyone tell me why this card is rank B? Is the ambush really helpful?
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>>160402016
Good roll, dust the animated bloody mary and you almost have a dshift deck
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>>160402175
The only time you go for their face is if you have a big elana board and he doesn't heal to make your other characters stronger while keeping you alive.
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>>160402175
Seraph never goes face because there's no point. It really relies on one win condition which is why more people use the Elana/Seraph hybrid.
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>>160402162
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PI9LN3ZmAs8&t=6m15s
This is absolutely adorable.
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>>160402210
Yeah and the stats are pretty good too.
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>>160402248
I don't have any gold. Will 1,500 be enough, or should I get rid of some more animated cards?

Do you have a Dimensional Shift deck list I can take a look at?
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Midrange Shadowcraft is fun
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>>160402559
so is blood
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So why are all the fucking Angels in Neutral when Havencraft exists?
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>>160402520
https://shadowverse.gamepress.gg/deck/spell-runecraft-touchiya
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>>160402495
>bullying Otohime this hard
Not cute! Not cute!
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noob question

Do neutral card spells give spellboost or no?
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>playing take 2
>fighting sword
>they play well of destiny, get a floral fencer and evo it, after ~3 turns of buffs is like a 8/4
>I keep ignoring it and going face while he tries to trade with it
>he drops 2 Mirage Sentinals and starts spamming BM emotes
>my turn starts he keeps BMing
>STAND IN MY WAY AND I'LL CUT YOU DOWN
>I should have forseen this..!
>Opponent conceded

Suck my dick you slut just because I let you get a big bitch while you ignored my board of 6/6s and you think 2 taunts will stop me leads to your fucking loss.
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>>160402754
They do.
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>>160402520
Also, you should do the free Take 2s before crafting because that will net you a lot of packs.
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i just completed the story, done 5 take-twos, and used all of the ticket packs
i have 1800 gold and 1100 vials so what should i do now? Should i just use all the gold on standard packs or try to split it and then net deck and craft the rest?
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Cerberus a cutie!
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>7/12 stat spread across five followers
>for 6 pp
>this is what Cygames considers "balanced"
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Pic is actually pretty funny. Got a source?
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>>160402016
Also, you can make the banner sword aggro deck if you don't like combo, you got pretty much the only legendary worth running in it and it's a 1 of.
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How the fuck does this card work?
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>>160402928
shit, meant to quote>>160402009
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How do we fix Erika, /hsg/?
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>>160402990
Have you tried reading the card description?
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>>160402990
1)Is the board full ? yes : nothing happens, else continue
2)Do you have a bat ? yes : summon a bat and continue, else nothing happens
3)Is your board full now ? yes : fortress explodes and deals damage, else nothing happens
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>>160403026
REMOVE OTOHIME!!
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>>160402990
Seee >>160351478.
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>>160402990
The Fort needs to summon a bat to trigger the damage meaning you need 4 on your board at the end of your turn with at least 1 of them being a bat
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>>160403023
>>160402928
It's Demonbane. Yes, that Demonbane. But also not THAT Demonbane.
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>>160403026
Break her hymen. Show her the joys of being a woman and cure her of the disease that is lesbianism.
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>>160403026
She needs a courageous man to love. Her devotion towards the princess is admirable. But she'd likely do very well from being introduced to an admirable man in her life.
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>>160402990
I unironically feel like droping vampiric fortress from lolibats deck
More often than not it's just a brick in my hand because i didn't draw both it and Vampy or it and bat generators.
I'm cursed by rng
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Time to grind to AA0

This is gonna be suffering for a Shadow main.
Wish me luck, boys ;_;7
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Rune > Forest > Haven > Shadow > Blood > Sword > Dragon

For who takes the most time to take their turn.
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>>160403026
>/hsg/
t-that's not what this general is called!
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>>160403406
Accurate
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Why does Erika/the Kingdom want to seal Urias
He's literally just walking around
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My sides.
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>>160403287
How many games did it take you to get to A3?
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>>160403406
>>160403456

>exactly 1 minute apart
Nice samefag
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>>160402817
Cool beans.
Maybe I'll get gud at Runecraft one day
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>>160403458
It's literally just Erika. Her overwhelming lust for the princess overrides her common sense.
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>>160403493
>>160403287

This much.
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>>160403538
Despite the fact that THE DAUGHTER OF KING BALTHAZAR WAS NOT THE VICTIM OF CONSUMPTION THAT MOST BELIEVE HER TO BE
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GOD FUCKING DAMN IT. WHY IS EVERY DECK HAVEN OR FOREST? FUCK THIS SHIT.
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>>160403458
The kingdom is convinced Urias is some harbinger of destruction and they're ready to murder a princess to stop him.

Urias is just an old man that wants to have some fun. There's a bit of a communication issue.
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>>160403458
It's like when police get a call in about suspicious activity. Nothing's happening, but someone is on their way to getting arrested anyway, so might as well start attacking first and asking questions later.
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>>160403538
They meatgrindered their men against him when he went to see Balthazar and the princess already accepts the fact that she'll be sacrificed to seal him again
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>vs Garudo Haven twice in a row in unranked with my shitty ramp dragon deck
>die like an ass
>vs someones clearly shitty shadow deck and I draw the nuts and play Genesis Dragon turn 6

God damn it
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>>160403203
>>160403234
Disgusting. Erika was made to serve the princess dutifully.
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Need a private match famurais, ID:45141
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>>160403659
To be fair he kinda invaded the heart of the kingdom to reach ol' Bally's grave.
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PLZ HLP
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>>160403924
Right obviously
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How the hell does the church in SV work anyways?

Are they really into bestiality or something?
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>>160403924
Left
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>>160403498
It wasn't me samefagging actually.
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>>160403874
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>>160401730
>mfw Mordecai comes out into the field and I have no banishes whatsoever
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>96419

Can I have a concede please and thank you
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>>160403026
>/hsg/
Literally the other half of the thread OP cancer.
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>>160403924
Left for sure and you have 5-0 deck
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>>160403879
There probably wouldn't be nearly as much of a fuss if Urias disguised himself with a hat or something.
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>>160403879
Urias is a goodboy
The only time he ever started shit was against Rowen and that's only because he was half Dragon
He probably would've left everyone alone instead of decimating the Army if they had just treated him as a really buff traveller guy instead of an immediate threat.
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>>160403924
Left gives you a hard win condition but right synergizes with your deck better.
Left is also less good than normal as you already have a tsubaki and your curve is fairly flat, meaning arthurian light could actually gove you needed board in the midgame.
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Can I F2P this game? In Hearthstone, I finally reached the point where I can buy xpacs with gold. I don't want to spend money on ccgs anymore.
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>>160404069
Thanks bloodloli
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Do i pull the trigger anons?

I don't have much in the way of cards but i want to buy the leaders anyway.
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>>160404138
Yes.

Premium currency is inefficient right now.
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>>160403874
Thank you merchant, truly you're my greatest ally.
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>>160404138
the game throws gold and packs at you to no end, it took me like 2 days of playing to make a constructed tier 1 deck

>>160404179
not if you take it slow and use the daily deal erryday
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>>160404138
In 2 months you'll have several meta decks, and at least a dozen legendaries. This is far more f2p friendly than hearthstone atm.
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>>160404168
Nah. Buy the leaders you like and spend the rest on packs or arena.
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>>160401912

get busy dyin', or get busy --------
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>>160404179
>>160404203
>>160404204
Fucking sweet. I'm so burnt out on the Hearthstone meta. I'm ready to collect some waifus.
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>>160404168
The pack is only worth it if you plan on using every leader because it's only like a 100 or 200 gold discount or something. Better to just buy the ones you want.
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>>160404226
i like all of them except selwyn and latham
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>Banish an enemy with Last Word
>Their effect goes off
>Enemy banishes my follower with Last Word
>It doesn't go off
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>>160402880
someone please answer, what packs should i spend my gold on
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>>160404380
What did you banish Anon. Post log.
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>>160404396
>>160402880

How did you do in your Take Two runs?
What's your average score?
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>>160402880
>>160404396
Standard packs for a long long time, DE is the icing on top for most decks rather than a solid foundation.
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I'm starting to worry about I'll be too busy playing FFXV to do Shadowverse daily after it released.

Good thing is that there's no other big release in December, so I can still save some gold for the new expansion as long as FFXV doesn't take up whole month to beat.
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Is there a bigger fuckup than Rowen?

Is his only virtue being voiced by Sugita?
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>>160404564
I don't have a console at all, unless you mean it's coming to steam or something
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>>160404396
Do you play Bloodcraft? Darkness Evolved

Do you play anything else? Standard
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>>160404396
Look at the decks you want to build and buy packs until you can. You should go with standard packs as a new player, but it's worth getting DE packs until you have 3 Unicas and 3 Siegfrieds just because many decks use them. Also 3 Aria's if you want to play cancer haven.
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>>160403194
Ah, I see! It's THAT Demonbane! Thanks!
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>>160404341
You're not going to return to Hearthstone.
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Is DShift deck worth building or is it pay to lose? I just want to have fun.
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>>160404806
It's worth it, it just gets hard countered by a few decks, and isn't autowin against anyone who knows how to counter it.
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>OTK'd by dshift on turn 9 because I don't run maximum aggro
I'm out, have fun with your solitaire fags.
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>>160403616
I mentioned that oversight on the Nip Dub before and nobody seemed to care. Glad someone else noticed at least.
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>>160404806
It's pay to lose but have FUN
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Forest will never be nerfed and its cards will forever be undercosted. I accept this and I wait for the end. Who's with me?
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>>160404806
It gets the most salt per win
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>>160404909
t. elf
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>>160404878
I see it joked about every few threads or so.
It's known. I just don't think anybody knows what causes it or how to fix it.
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Why is Sugita such a fucking meme?

Watching Shadowverse Channel right now and he's the punchline to like half the jokes from the hosts and the viewers alike.

And yet, despite everyone talking about him so much, he still hasn't made a guest appearance on the show.
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>>160404806
Do you like playing storm in MTG or various looping lockdown decks in Yugioh?
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>>160404806
It's a deck built and adjusted with a specific meta in mind. Don't play it unless you already know what you're doing because no matter how well you play, you can expect to eat a lot of losses from fast aggro climbing.
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>>160404961
I've only seen them do it one time with "Sugita is my waifu" so far, but I'm also watching while playing so I might've missed the others
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>>160404985
I never played MTG or Yugioh.
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>>160404806
Queued into this shit twice while playing ranked for the first time, how's a nigga supposed to do those missions
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>Go up against Earth Rune
>Dude is summoning Conjure Guardians out the ass
>Fail to draw a single damn Foul Tempest
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>image rip on the OP
>still no one converting the JP voice files to readable format

Or it is just not possible? I want a Bellringer as a ringtone.
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>>160404374
Do you know how to do basic math anon?
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>>160405090
Well you should.
The whole deck is pretty much just drawing through your deck and trying to stay alive until you find dshift and creatures and make them cheap enough to win in one turn.
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>>160405168
300g for two followers i'm not a fan of but might use one day isn't bad.
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>>160405125
Already done like 6 or 7 threads ago
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Guys
I have a crucial question
Why is Medusa so delicious?
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>>160404374
Superior Taste.
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>>160405275

Post up a link then. We can add that to the next OP.
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>when heaven plays next to nothing first 5 turns and you just know he's going to themis you
>and then he plays nothing again

Nicely memed.
2 themises into odin into lucifer.

Fucking christ.
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>>160405125
Some anon made a program that converts the .acb files into mp3 format. I don't remember the download link, though.

Either way, I bet someone has the mp3 on them in this thread.
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A concede please
95592
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>>160404510
just did another, all 6 have been 3/5
>>160404531
>>160404628
thanks
>>160404621
i have not played standard yet and only based my take-twos on the mission for the day, what deck requires that most "thinking"? (i just dont want an auto pilot deck)
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>>160405070
Off the top of my head:
>Sugita is my wife (already mentioned)
>drawing Sugita's dick
>Rowen being called Dragon Sugita-san
>the "Tasukaru" Rowen meme
As for the viewers the Nico comments are just flooded with Sugita's name. Literally the answer to every question asked on the show.
>new guest!
>IS IT SUGITA?
>draw this thing?
>DRAW SUGITA
>anytime Rowen appears
>SUGITA-SAAAAAN
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YO MOMS GET THE CAM
>Swordfags
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>>160405338
Here
>>160165283
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>D.Shift doesn't auto win vs control and combo meme
Who the fuck keeps spouting this? Is it solitaire defense force, or the aggro retards who think a deck that loses that badly to them can't possibly beat anyone else. The Rune match is literally unwinnable. If you drop anything on the board they can attack into, ANYTHING, they will get the Merlin boost and OTK on turn 7 and 8 guaranteed. If you don't play anything, and have a meme combo on turn 9 like Seraph, they'll just start dropping their destroyers and Levi to face, which you can't deal with since you didn't play anything to avoid Merlin.

No, you fucking retard, "lmao just hit face" isn't an option to fucking decks that can't shit damage. The mere fact that people even try arguing that D.Shift doesn't auto win against control blows my mind. The deck exists solely, because it does so well against control and other combo. It was tier fucking 1 last format, just because of how good it is against PtP, even when it literally concede against every aggro Shadow on ladder. This type of deck is the exact fucking reason why counter spells and side board exists in real CCGs.
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>>160405550
Erika obviously wants Sugita's dick since she's always the one mentioning him.
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>>160405550
Rowen is voiced by Sugita?
Time to make some Dragon deck.
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>>160405550
>>160404961
Sugita has been something of a meme for ages already.
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>>160405697
It's not unwinnable.
First off, you do nothing but kill their shit and then win with Seraph. You can even play a few things, risky as it may be. I've won in the Seraph vs DShift match multiple times. It's difficult but it's possible.
Second, you're forgetting that this is a card game. Sometimes they don't draw their combo. It's always possible for DShift to get a really bad draw and lose that way.
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>>160405746
Yeah. And Urias is voiced by Suwabe.
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>>160405826
Oh shit, that's why their voices are so familar.
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>>160405751
Sugita's the best.
BluRaji and Tokyo Encounter are good times
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>>160405697
As a Dshift player I agree, sideboard and counterspells/instants would make this game better.
You can thank the retards who want to go afk during their opponent's turn for this.
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>>160405751
One day he'll pilot the gundam for real.
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>>160405978
That's no excuse for sideboards though. There's no reason digital ccgs don't have sideboards except for the fact that Hearthstone set a bad precedent
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>>160406006
Not happening.
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>>160404909
Cost nerfs to Roach and Ancient Elf are what they need desu, their bounce combos are way too good. Tia's also disgusting, but at least at 5 mana, you can't do anything exceptionally nutty with her too early into the game.
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>put down quickblader turn 1
>Enemy forfeits
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>>160405819
Seraph will never win against DShift unless it doesn't run Petrification.

Unfortunately for you, every high tier Spellboost Witch is running Petrify now, often with Smelter for added insult.
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>>160405546
Anything Rune (especially Earthrite)
Rhinoceroach Forest (PtP Deck)
Control Blood
Midrange Shadow
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This is silly
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>>160406025
Eternal has both, it's just not launched yet.
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87991

Anyone for a concede?
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Alright this isn't funny anymore.
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>>160406390
I love temple defender.

She doesn't always work, but when she does she literally cucks aggro shitters up the ass.
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>>160406262
Much appreciated
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>>160403615
Damn bro I hit A0 at around 175 wins
Show me your deck
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>>160406437
I'm not playing an aggro deck
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>>160405070
>>160405550
>the Sugita is my wife mail appears
>comment section immediately floods with "Nakamura, is that you?"
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>>160406390
If they kill Aria I'll finally have an excuse to run Temple Defender in my Seraph deck
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>>160406531
Even better!
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>>160406390
On the bright side, you are going to get so many puppers.
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>>160406612
>>160406587
Temple Defender is kind of meh but the planets just aligned for me to get fucked unfortunately.

>>160406689
He had Priest of the Cudgel so no.
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>>160406724
Temple Defender is great if you go 2nd on curve.
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I'm eating Chicken in a Biscuit crackers while playing deathly tyrant in casual when I should be grinding to get to AA0 and to get the Otohime Guard cardback. I have lost control of my life.
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>>160407068
Fuck grinding ladder. Best way to make yourself start hating the game. Just take it slow there's still half the month left
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How do I install the japanese apk on my phone? Google play just shows the english version.
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>Lose to Satan Dragon
What a horrible night to have a curse.

>>160406893
Oh he curved his ass off. All of that removal and none of it came up though.

>>160407068
Chicken in a Biscuit tastes great. I don't really see the point in playing Unranked though.
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>>160407119
I hate to recommend Reddit, but everyone told me just to search Reddit for Shadowverse, and its like 3rd result, or at least it was when I checked. Shadowverse for weebs for something like that. There are specific instructions, but you literally just replace the audio file with the new JP one.
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>>160407191
Ranked makes me put pressure on myself and then it gets not fun. I have like a 55% winrate on ladder and climb ok, but I just don't enjoy it.
I would rather meme with stupid decks in casual.

My shitty complex aside, I agree. There is no rational reason to not just play all ranked.
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>people unironically care about ranked
You are pretty much guaranteed to rank up to AA0 sooner or later because there's almost no way to lose ranking points. Every winning combo gives so much more points than losing combo.
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My sides.
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>>160407503
What the fuck am I watching?

translation when?
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>>160406390
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Just played against a runecraft player who was afk or doing nothing in hopes I would leave. Would not have been so bad if I also wanst playing runecraft for a daily.

>>160407119
You can use things like qooapp to download the apk.

Other option is make a japanese google account and use that to download.

>>160407191
If you have a fairly shitty deck for a class and need to clear a daily for that class.

Though the fact that you can't move down in ranking means you dont have to care about it so much.
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>>160407429
>He doesn't know
Enjoying the low ranks, anon?
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>>160407503
subs never
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>>160407308
>There is no rational reason to not just play all ranked.
If you're a F2P pleb it's better not to rank. You'll eventually hit a point where you can't complete your dailies easily (if at all) anymore if you get too high.
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>>160407628
I've done that to someone before but this time I didn't make it past turn 5.
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>>160407707
>next game
Help
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>>160407750
I dunno, a decent amount of AA level players meme it up in normies. Unless that's still scrub level.
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>>160407750
With banner and blood aggro being things, it kinda hard to get to that point.
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>>160407628
NOW, ALTERED FATE INTO TYRANT.
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Things Shadowcraft needs to be restored to its proper glory:
>their own board wipe
>a 4-drop that isn't unplayable trash in a Haven meta
>a utility that enables them to kill their own amulets and get a benefit for doing so
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>>160407895
Bat falls off pretty hard in A-AA. Actually, all aggro does.
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Fucking elves. I hate every single one of them.
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>>160407958
>Board wipe
Foul Tempest is very effective
>4-drop that isn't unplayable trash against Haven
Playful Necromancer
>Utility that enables them to kill own amulets
Agreed.
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Which one of you is a cool enough dude to concede to me? 49077
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>>160407978
Just played unranked if you have that much trouble. There's still plenty of people playing meme decks at high ranks. I do all my Vampire and Dragon dailies with aggro bat and Face Dragon in ranked match and still do them pretty easily.
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>Get a 20 gold daily
>Reroll
>Get another 20 gold daily
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>>160408043
>Foul Tempest is very effective
That's not a board wipe

>Playful Necromancer
A 4/3 for 4 is trash against haven. So is a 5/4. So is a 5/4 that gives you 2 ghosts that can't remove amulets, tigers, garudas, priests, etc.
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Is there really any reason why Rune is like the most popular after Haven, Elf and Sword?

Are there really that many Elana Havenfags?
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>>160408043

Not him, but playful cannot kill bald priest without getting herself killed.
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>>160408112
Thanks, jewish snowman.
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>>160408170
spell rune is a fairly cheap and extremely effective anti meta deck
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>>160408043
Playful Necro is pretty shitty honestly.

>>160408170
Spell Rune is dirt cheap and yes there are that many Elana Haven players. Which is mind boggling because Storm is both cheaper and stronger.
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>>160408198
Yet, supposing most players are rank D to A, most of the time you see aggro and midrange and those are all Rune killers
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>>160408161
By your logic conflag/revelation aren't board wipes either.

Also, Haven is the natural counter to Shadow. It's intended.
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>people asking other people to do the concede for them
>not setting up another account on an android emulator and conceding to yourself
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>>160408043
>playful necro
>Trade it into priest it dies from full health
>trade it into literally anything even 1 attack follower and it gets banished with no damage to priest

It's awful in heaven matchups.
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>>160408115
>Anecdotes

>>160408170
Rune shuts out all control and most midrange decks. Literally free wins.
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>>160408234
Oh great, now I am going to lose more of my faith in the playerbase because people genuinely are sadists who love having 15-20 turn games

This after seeing that most of the meta bandwagoners are not that good to begin with anyway once you meet them in mirror matches

....Well, I suppose a reasonable reason for playing such an annoying deck is to counter storm haven and aggro decks, but still
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>day 9
>rune and haven players still can not concede
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>play fun decks: face nothing but elana cancer
>play dimension shift: nothing but sword and bats
I'm starting to hate this game
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>>160408348
If you can't win with good aggro bat or face dragon decks in any rank you should honestly just get better. The decks can win by just playing cards on curve. Banner is the same way too.
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>>160408281
Conflag and Revelation are wipes because they are afforded additional value for damaging the caster's board as well. Tempest is not, it's an Angelic Barrage which can be Alchemical Lore at a high additional cost.

>Also, Haven is the natural counter to Shadow. It's intended.
[citation needed]
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Do ranks reset after every month or just the score?
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>>160408357
Elana Haven does not beat Aggro. Well, ideally. Elana is weird because it being so inconsistent means it can be pretty damn sacky as well. I only know the deck from the opponent perspective since I only play Storm Haven but it really does seem more draw dependent than others since you it's all about you NEEDING ot have Elana and then just curving into healers so that you don't die and the deck just snowballs.

Sounds pretty boring to me honestly. I feel like I have a healthy amount of options with Storm.
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this is tiring
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>Played 3 Swordcraft players today with PTP in their deck.

Is this an actual strategy or am I being memed on? The last guy had it out on turn 4.
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>>160408606
You're doing god's work anon
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>>160408617
It's an actual meme strategy.
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>>160408606
Then don't do it.
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>>160408606
You are a god.
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>>160408548
So, why do JPs love Elana then?

Are they just sadists?
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>>160408606
we need you
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KxGRhd_iWuE
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>>160408484
Aggro loses hard to midrange/tempo, which there are much more of starting in A3~. Maybe you'll realize that once you climb out of D0 and start getting asspounded by faeries all day.
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>>160408606
ganbare
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>>160408606
You da man Anon.
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>>160408662
Brainless autopiloting deck which doesn't care about board interactions or outplaying any single cards

Literally pray I draw the scriptures, themis and chain sacred pleas or I run out of cards .dec
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>>160408606
You are a god among men. Glory be anon.
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>>160408606
Thanks man.
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>>160408606
may freedom be with you!

Godspeed
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>>160408521
>[citation needed]
The class with the most banishes isn't a counter to Shadow?

That's almost as delusional as claiming Rune isn't a counter to Haven with all of its amulet targeted spell fuckery.
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>>160408606
thank you anon!
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>tfw to smart for havencraft
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>>160408687
I'm in AA1. I did Vamprie dailies with a cheap Aggro Vampire deck before DE came out and it was shit. It's not really that hard.
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>>160408606
You are the hero we need anon!
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>>160408662
People here shit on Storm Haven here for being "autopilot" but it really doesn't feel that way. Like I said Storm feels like it actually has a decent enough range of options and it's fairly consistent. From what I've seen Elana seems a lot more linear than most other decks. It's not all that reactive like most control decks, and instead just wins by not dying while simultaneously dropping huge dudes.
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>>160408865
>Can't refute the argument
>Personal anecdotes

Here's the last (You).

>>160408662
Elana preys on some top meta decks, which means it's strong in tournament format. It gets dumpstered by aggro though because you can't afford to spend a turn dropping an amulet when your opponent can end your life on turn 5.
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>>160408760
Nice citation
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>>160408606

Man, I remember doing that for a 30 minutes animation. It makes me respect those that can puke them out in a hurry.
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I need advice for the Forestcraft vs Haven matchup. I never win a match against Haven unless they draw complete trash.
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>>160409093
So you want Cygames to make a detailed PR blog post telling you what mechanics counter what?
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Reminder that Runecraft takes the longest per turn because it's the craft with the most ways to play around different situations.

Runecraft is the thinking man's craft
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My only gripe with this game are the 4- and 5-drops. None of these cards should be allowed to have strong evolution effects. When played on curve, they swing the games too much.
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>>160409009
It's not a control deck, it's midrange.
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>>160409169
yeah you have to let runecraft take their time because they basically have to re-calculate their hand every turn
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So I am interested about that certain Shadowcraft list with Keen enchantment. Anyone knows the twitter of the nip dude who made that?
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>>160409140
As a storm haven guy, bring the pressure early. if you bring enough pressure they will be forced to trade against the roach threat. That, or get the wards and try to set up the wombo combo with roaches. At least thats how it feels like when I lose to forest.

Can't help you on elana, sorry. If its any consolation there, Elana fucks up storm haven too.

Hope that helps. I don't know if it does.
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>>160408606
bless you
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>>160409234
Every class has the token ones for free besides Elf and Witch. If they weren't in the game the game would become incredibly slow.
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>>160409154
I want anons who claim to know developer intent to actually cite developer intent.
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When the fuck is this Garuda storm shit getting nerfed

I'm sick of these fucking Arias
I'm sick of these OP piece of shit Garudas
And I'm especially fed up with this bald bastard cudgel priest

Ranked is practically unplayable unless you're using one of the few decks that can counter this shit, which also happen to be cancer (Forest)
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>>160409376
Elana, aggro blood and banner all counter garuda as well.
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>>160409364
>Core class mechanic counters another core class mechanic
>NO IT WASN'T INTENDED IT WAS JUST AN OVERSIGHT TRUST ME I KNOW

Sure, whatever you say.
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>>160409376
Honestly, there's no point in even calling the Haven decks different names. Literally every single one is sacred plea into elana into removal/amulet into bald.
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>>160409376
Sure, you'll lose a lot to some other shit and Earth Rune is completely unwinnable but for spamming quick fun games join the dark side.
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>>160409420
Who are you even quoting?
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If I link my android account to steam do I lose my steam save or are all my cards going to merge with my steam save? I didn't link before getting all those free card packs.
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Removing demon strikes and adding in unica has helped the consistency a little

The biggest problem I think this deck has is curving out. 15 2 drops should help I guess
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>>160409509
You. I said that Haven counters Shadow and you said
>No I don't believe you, give me a citation
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>>160409559
>healing in aggro blood
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>>160409564
>You

I ctrl+F'd your quotes and they're not showing up anywhere else in the thread senpai.
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>>160409617
You have no idea how close some games are against other aggro or midrange decks

Unica's a vanilla 2/2 with a heal and hard-taunt effect. And it also helps in screwing with the opponent. Most people start thinking I'm some lame-ass control deck and slow down the trades
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>>160409459
Storm Haven doesn't run Elana. It runs amulets that shit out Storm Minions and no healers. That's why it's called Storm Haven and not Elana Haven.
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>>160409640
Look here, family: >>160408521
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>>160409459
Honestly, there's no point in even calling the Sword decks different names. Literally every single one is quickblader into banner into removal/token into floral.
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>>160409672
Not Elana, Aria.
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>>160409617

>dissing bread girl

Name another 2-drop that forces aggro more than her.
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Which do I pick?
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>>160409670
I know it well enough to tell you that the ability to consistently push more damage every turn is more important than your little mind games.
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>>160409762
Olivia.
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>My first animated was Unica

Never letting her go.
Ever.
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>>160409727
Alright I can give you that but the decks both play out differently and have different wincons. Aside from core stuff like Priest and Aria they run some wildly different cards to achieve their ends.
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>>160407958
Our lord and savior Lord Atomeme covers your last idea already.
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>>160409676
CTRL+F covered that.
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Nice hearthstone killer you've got here weeaboos.
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>>160409797
thanks
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>>160409762
Left.
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>>160409762
Right, at the very least Holy Sentinel can be useful if your opponent floods the board while Olivia is Olivia

Meanwhile Skullfane is still Skullfane while Kaguya is eh

Seriously, left is one decent and one useless card while right is one decent and one god tier arena card, why would you even ask?
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>>160409670
>hard-taunt effect

that would be taunt

she is a soft taunt
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Is the update next week gonna delete Haven?
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>>160409820
So you just can't read.
Glad we cleared that up. In conclusion, I implore you to understand that Shadow will always have a bad matchup vs Haven the same way Haven will always get rekt by Rune.
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>>160409818
I can't say I'd call killing your entire board much of a benefit.
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>>160409839
Right is definitely the way to go because Skullfane obviously isn't going to compare to Olivia ever, but for Arena purposes, Kaguya is great.
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>>160409854
You're right there
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>>160409376
>aria cooldown increased from (3) to (4)
>Garuda only deals fanfare damage when it pops an amulet.
>Cudgel stay exactly the same.

There storm is balanced.
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>>160409832
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>>160409818
its he only followers and not amulets though?
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>tfw bannermeme on A1 and 40% of my games are runecrafts (both dshift and earthrite)
My rank just keeps rising, I hate Haven just a bit less now.
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>>160409891
I should have known from your inability to cite sources that you'd also be unable to cite posts.
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>>160409885
Where?
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>>160409913
Kaguya is actually kind of bad right now because half the time her amulet bugs out and doesn't even spawn when she dies.

I have no idea what causes this to happen, but the last three times I picked Kaguya for arena, I got no Ephemeral Moon.
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Any improvements for this deck?
Sorry for the false advertising, there are no vampies in this deck
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>>160409982
The amulet only comes out if you evolve her.
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>3 Unica's out of nowhere
D.storm never came ;_;
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>>160409982
Read the card description you stupid shit.
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>I GUARD... OTOHIMEME
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>>160410007
need a pic of three Unica's bullying Vampy
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>>160409942
I wonder if it wouldn't be fair for cudgelman to be 2 health or less.

That makes it roughly equal to playful necrodaughteru except that it's a hard banish rather than 2 minions that can go anywhere.
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>>160409982
#FuckReading
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>>160410005
>>160410023
>>160410061
Oh shit, I am a dumbass.
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>>160409972
Keep crying, Shadowbaby.

>>160409982
lol
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>Go up against some Elana's Prayer storm slut
>Am playing Seraph, so think I'm being clever by deciding not to attack face
>The effect can be triggered even when they haven't been damaged
>He runs 2 Odins

Fucking p2w tryhard scum
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>>160409982
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>>160406490

Sorry late reply.
This was more or less my deck when I climbed until A2:

https://shadowverse-portal.com/deck/1.5.63E_G.63E_G.63E_G.63HPo.63HPo.63FiQ.63FiQ.65BUS.65BUS.5_QqY.5_QqY.5_QqY.63E_6.63E_6.63E_6.6736Y.6736Y.6736Y.63E-0.63E-0.63E-0.63E-A.63E-A.63E-A.5_TGo.5_TGo.5_TGo.5_TGy.5_TGy.63Kaw.63Kaw.63Kaw.659nE.659nE.63MII.63MII.63KbE.63KbE.63E-U.63E-U#

Made some changes as I got more vials and cards (Cerberus/Death's Breath)

Then I switched to a more aggressive deck with less control but more face bullying starting from A2 until I reached A3:
https://shadowverse-portal.com/deck/1.5.5zWm2.5zWm2.63E_G.63E_G.63E_G.63HPo.63HPo.63HPo.63FiQ.63FiQ.65BUS.65BUS.65BUS.5_QqY.5_QqY.5_QqY.63E_6.63E_6.63E_6.6736Y.6736Y.6736Y.63E-0.63E-0.63E-0.63E-A.63E-A.63E-A.61LeE.61LeE.61LeE.5_TGo.63Kaw.63Kaw.63Kaw.659nE.659nE.659nE.63MII.63MII

Additionally, pic related was when I reached A0
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>>160410098
No problemo
Thanks for the free wins sucker
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>>160410007
Join the club

The weak should fear the strong
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>>160409832
Gonna be honest with you, Hearthstone is enjoyable to watch (and already has a established streamer base). Shadowverse, on the other hand, is enjoyable to play.
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>>160410303
Fuckboistone is enjoyable to watch mostly because of schadenfreude and the highly entertaining streamers

This game needs some actual streamer talent to make it big in the west
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>>160410190

>Got to A0 with that few wins
>With Shadowcraft, even

bruh you're alright
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>>160410303
Shadowverse streamers all need to be gassed.
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>>160408606
You're amazing.

But stop right now. /svg/ doesn't deserve it, they don't deserve it, and I don't deserve it.
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Could I get a concede please?
50743
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>>160410054
It'd be pretty shit, it's not hard to keep your followers at 3 defense and it'd just turn into a worse wardrobe. And playful synergizes with other cards in shadow.
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>>160410393
found the /hsg/ false flagger
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>>160410386
This
>Browsing SV streamers
>Everyone is trying to outweeb the others
>Most of them only plays elana/forest ptp
At least chat is somewhat enjoyable
Tomorrow Kripp SV stream tho
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I got a Forte from a pack
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>>160410190

Keep it up skeleton bro
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>>160410303
The RNG makes for an awful play experience but goddamn is it funny watching everything go to shit on stream.
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YER NAHT GUNNA CRACK ME ARE YA?
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>>160410449
Thank you!
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>>160410190
I played a pretty similar deck (I'm only B0 however) but I never really felt all that comfortable with it and opted for midrange. Maybe I have brain problems.
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>>160410508
>Kripp streaming tomorrow
Oh good. I can't wait to harvest the salt from all of the oldfags on here
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>>160410550
Np. Im glad it worked. I got this message when I clicked concede.
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>>160410581
>file name
That's an AC remote tho'.
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>>160410515
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>>160410515
Why the fuck are her pits so fucking hairy? Jesus
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>>160410515
>get a Forte from one of my starting packs
>craft a Forte to have one more for my dragon deck
>get my third Forte from my packs after my first 5-0 arena with dragon
>face dragon now complete, reach A0 in about 110 wins

#Blessed
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>>160410528
Exactly, some anon yesterday compared it to watching monkey fights and it was sort of spot on, except watching people win HS games purely by rng is guilt-free and doesn't hurt any animals.
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>>160410638
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iYW5rmQgGXE
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http://www.strawpoll.me/11670768

http://www.strawpoll.me/11670774
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when people talk about dirt rune do they mean that purgatory meme deck or is golems actually a thing now?
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>>160410804
BUILD WALL
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>>160410702
I had three fortes on day 1

I couldn't craft anything else for weeks but it was fun having a deck
>>160410804
dirt's usually Pascale's deck

Which is good, it has more wards than CSword, but not reliable enough
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>>160410581

I'm not one for playing aggro as well, it was especially uncomfortable in Hearthstone.

But because of Shadowverse's lower HP and the Evolve system which I abuse on followers on board, rather than giving Rush to just played cards, it's much easier to bully.
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>>160410897
I tried using pascale but I could never get a situation where she would be useful. any time I had something bigger than a 3/3 golem to double it would die before I could use her.
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>>160410804
>WALL
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>>160410804
>fencer

Grats on beating a shitter.
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>>160411029
thanks
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>>160410991
Just fyi, Pascale on 3/3 is already good, anything better is obscene that only loses to themis
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Need a concede please
59149
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>>160410515
Forte best card!
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>>160410929
It's less that and more that I just really like playing beefy value creatures. I'm hoping that the next expansion throws Midrange Shadow a bone, particularly with 1, 4, and 6 drops.
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>>160410804
>erica's face when
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Topdecked so fucking hard that they then disconnected

TYB Forte
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>>160411062
but that other 5 mana card makes another 3/3 golem and upgrades them both to 5/5 so it always seemed like a better play.
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>>160410190

Good to see another fellow shadowplayer. Must be a feat to go through all those Haven and Forest.

Here's my current decklist
https://shadowverse-portal.com/deckbuilder/create/5?hash=1.5.63E_G.63E_G.63E_G.63HPo.63HPo.63HPo.63FiQ.63FiQ.5_QqY.5_QqY.5_QqY.63E_6.63E_6.63E_6.6736Y.6736Y.6736Y.5_RZQ.5_RZQ.676H-.676H-.63E-0.63E-0.63E-0.63E-A.63E-A.63E-A.5_TGy.5_TGy.5_TGy.63Kaw.63Kaw.63Kaw.659nE.659nE.659nE.63MII.63MII.63MII.67ARI
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>>160411086
thanks vampy
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Unicorns coming through
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Why isn't he a 4-drop 3/4?
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>>160411227
Is Skellington Fighter even good? It's never felt good when I played it.
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>>160411250
>giving shadow any good cards
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Need a private win please
89389
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Wow. I had to disable voices just now.

I'm playing against a Garuda for the first time and when you hit him it sounds like he's choking on cum. Is there a way to just disable Garuda's sounds alone?
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>>160411330
Well that was a disturbing image.
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>>160411250
because he's one of the new 5 drop evolve creatures that cygames is introducing to rebalance the second player advantage

>>160411330
>not liking the sounds of a bird choking on cum
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>>160411283

He's good when you go in tandem with Spartoi Sergeant.

Bone doge into sergeant into fighter + another 2-drop can be hard to deal with. You only keep him if you have sergeant in starting hand, though.

>>160411250

Doesn't matter. His evo effect is crap. A Deathchaser will do you more good.
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>tfw you get 15 games losestreak, can't topdeck anything that's not 1-2 mana garbage at turn 8, and play vs elanas every match
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>>160411296
Wait are you kidding me? This isn't a fucking Priest situation, Shadow has some absolutely insane cards. They're not even that bad, aggro shadow is tier 2. They're just an unfortunate victim of the Haven meta.
You can't whine about how Shadow has bad cards when they have shit like Cerberus, Death's Breath, Mordecai, Phantom Howl, etc.
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>>160411250
>Giving Shadow more 3 drops
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>>160411397
Fuck foul tempest

Fuck lord of the flies
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>>160411416
>not making your deck entirely out of 3 drops
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Rank crafts in descending order of:
>Value
>Tempo
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>>160411327

Thank you
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>>160411486
Impossible because Forest is king of both value and tempo
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>>160410515
gross
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>>160411364
I like the idea of powerful 5 drops but Dullahan and Dragon Dicks are awful, and Ceridwen has such an awkward design.

I mean come on, port over some 4 drop effects on bigger bodies and we're talking.
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>havencraft player drops 3 thermis decree and then ragecloses the game

thank you mordecai
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>>160411586
But Themis delete's Morde
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>>160411650
Destroys, not banishes.
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>>160410531
What if I did?
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>>160411364

I just can't think of what good is 4 Shadow when it needs an evolve point. If it's for death's breath, your early followers should have covered it.
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>>160411716
I'm always a little ashamed of myself when I overextend into an egg in arena.
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>>160411364
>New
You're the new one here friend. Dullahan is as standard as standard gets.
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>>160411870
PtP Shadow.
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>>160411486
Pretty hard question, let me try while excluding aria.
>value
Otohime
Ancient Elf
Honorable mentions to Siegfried for being silver and having a fucking broken fanfare, Moon Al'Miraj and Cerberus.
>tempo
Tia
Olivia
Wind God
Honorary mentions to all the broken non craftable 4 drops in the game, DS Rune in general :^) _____ ___ ___, Garuda and, again, Moon Al'Miraj.
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>>160411941

>shadow
>ptp

Good luck hoarding all those shadows when most your cards eat shadows like a horse.
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>>160412004
You kind of failed horribly.
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>>160412036
But anon... Horses are known to eat hay.
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I'm ashamed in my fellow Brit

Not just playing Forest, not just playing it badly but also disconnecting

How dare they use our flag
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>17 lose streak and it keeps on going
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>>160412193
Is that control or midrange?
If it's midrange you shouldn't have that many bad games in a row, please untilt yourself, anon.
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how the fuck does blood shit out damage so fast? I figure I'm in the clear because I can go off in 2 turns and I'm still at 19 while he has jack shit after I barraged him twice, but then by the time I've won I'm at 2 and he has 7 power on the table.
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>>160412332
It's clearly midrange, control doesn't run Sage Commander
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Granblue is officially dead so I'm making the jump to SV.

I look forward to shitposting here on the regular.
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Which haven deck runs Guardian Sun (the ward amulet)?

Not sure how to log it
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>>160412392
Oh right, I'm retarded.
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>>160412405
Shut up brat
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>>160412332
It is midrange and I sure fucking have that many. With 2/3 of them me going first vs elanas and dshifts and other shit that's almost impossible to win if you don't draw on perfect curve going 2nd. An then I get 5 (five) [V] {äş”} 6-drops before turn six :)
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is there a worse card than this?

genuinely curious. I see no uses for this card.
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>>160412193
Literally how? Midrange sword is really good.
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>5 fafnirs
>0 fortes
im not gonna play dragon if you dont give me some fortes, cygames
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>>160412457
It's at least a 0/3 ward. I'm sure you can find amulets that are completely useless or even detrimental. Phoenix Roost maybe
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Let's discuss this hardcore motherfucker and why you aren't running him.
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>>160412626
Phoenix Roost works for specific combo decks
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>>160412631
>dance of death
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>>160412631
I don't have him.
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>>160412631
Too much removal and high power cards. 7 hp is literally nothing right now.
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>>160412442
Midrange Sword is favored against DShift
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>>160412631
The Dragon master player I was watching yesterday runs 3 of them.
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>>160412457
He's really not that bad, his biggest problem is that Bellringer is better but without his upside, it's not imagine to see a 0/3 ward at 2PP seeing play. I'd keep around a playset just in case some enabler for his upside releases.
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>>160412643
specific combo decks that get completely destroyed because you play Phoenix Roost
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>>160412643
I've heard this many times and I have yet to see this so called Dragon combo deck that makes use of Phoenix Roost.
It's 100% the worst card in the game.
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>>160412457
I could see it working in a fairy deck but it still seems like too much work to set up.
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>>160412671
You don't win before turn 8 maximum - you are done. You don't win before turn 8 without perfect curve cause dshift removes literally everything.
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>>160412631
He's really bad compared to sword's other options
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>>160412749
Only if the DShift player draws super well.
Do you not what fucks over DShift hard? Otohime into Sage Commander after they have to waste their removal taking care of your Floral Fencer.
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>>160412457
Has synergy with cards like Neptune or cards that can't be attacked so you can evolve something else the next turn then plop him down as well

The times I've gotten his effect off in arena pretty much wins you the game with the value.
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>>160401554
Sell it todd
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>>160411195
That card is great if you already have golem on board? Pascale is just more consistent because it doesn't need golems to do its thing.
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>>160412814
You can actually keep otohime going first if you have a 1-2 or 2-3 honestly

From the perspective of a dshift player just go play against erika elite. It's highly unfavored unless you literally draw the nuts

You require a dshift in the start, multiple kaleidoscopic glows and at least 2 fate's calls

Just start counting the spells. If it's less than 12 at turn 6 dshift is usually done and often has to suicide a 7/7 as a defensive mechanism. Clearing that is usually game
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>>160412670
Not that I disagree with the removal bit and a lot of power running around, but 3/7 is actually excellent in this meta and walls off all the most important threats. Survives evolved tigers, 4/X 4PP series, 3 of your average Sword threats, trades an evolved Forte. He's pretty much got it covered in the notable aggro match ups.
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>>160412951
Too bad every aggro deck runs Dance of Death now meaning big wards that aren't Aurelia or Frontguard are fucking useless.
RIP Goblinmount, you will be missed
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>>160412631
I honestly don't know. I'm thinking about his effect having synergy with Shadow creatures but those are really Magical Christmas Land scenarios. Lord Atomy feels the same way. I don't like cards like this.
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>>160412814
If you don't go 2nd, your Floral is already sub-optimal. I don't think I've ever had all 5 Otohime minions live.
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Is it just control cucks and elana faggots complaining about Dshit?

In my 160 wins and time in A rank I have never lost to a dshift rune once let alone seen them even get a single Dshift off.

Don't even know why people consider it a high-tier deck
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It's another Vampy eats all the board wipe while my evolved bats go to town episode.
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Tell me about your favourite deck and why someone else should play it.

I'm gonna start with naming Seraph Haven because having an alternative win condition is always fun. Also seeing your opponent panic for an entire turn after you drop the Seraph when he has no answer to it is great.
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Time for the big boy leagues?
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JUST
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>>160413117
How do you go about playing this card then removing at least 6 lands from your side of the board in one turn without removing the cheese?
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>>160413125
Stop being a greedy cunt and running so many 6 drops and maybe you'd have less issues?
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>>160413115
It's one of the very few bad matchups of PtP forest.
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>>160413125
I'm gonna level with you anon, you need to stop running Tsubaki.
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>>160413125
Just curious, what rank are you at
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Is there a single more satisfying feeling than dealing the killing blow to your opponent with this cutey?
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>>160413115
It's a very favourable matchup against any control deck so yes

If you just spam aggro it's no issue.

I'm 66% against it with CSword because it's beatable if you play hyper aggressive the moment you see the Rune leader before shitting down wards from turn 5 onward.

But it is one of the only matchups where I have to really adjust my play to the opponent and it's something that makes you hyper vulnerable to other Rune decks if it turns out they're not dshift
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whoa, how did he know
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>>160413120
>Time for the big boy leagues?
No.

Only B3 is even slightly tough and that's just because it's Haven every game

A0 isn't tough either btw it's just really grindy
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>>160412631
>him

good question
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>>160413125
That's a hot hand.
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>>160413254
A2
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>>160413115
DShift mostly matters in the tournament meta and master rank, for ranking up it's bad anyway.
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>win
>but actually lose

Today isn't my day. I'm gonna take a break ;_;
Ended up in 2-3 instead, which gave me 35 rupies and my balance will now end in 5 forever
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I'm 15% more likely to win with my control deck if I go second
19% more likely with bloody face dragon deck

This seems like an issue, it's only the pure aggro decks that are keeping the first vs second winning percentages close
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>>160413384
You're using this list right?

https://shadowverse.gamewith.jp/article/show/45023

I'm doing fine with this at AA3. Just 3k more to masters
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>>160413115
The impact of losing against it is bigger than other decks so it's more likely that scrubs complain about it even if it happens rarely.
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Are there any cheats that let you instantly unlock everything? I don't have the nerve to grind endlessly before I can build the deck I want.
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>>160413523
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>>160413523
Yeah it's called ur mom's credit card
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>>160413523
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>>160413523
I guess you could play something else like Faeria where there's an option to buy all the cards at once
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>>160413523
Sadly not.

This game probably isn't popular enough for people to try and find a way to dupe gold. Besides the system is too simple as well.
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Can anyone explain why themis decree still works and kill both my fellowers with the spell & effect resistance in placed? I dont get why spell can still kill me when the aura to prevent spell is in placed.


Still won the match though.
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>>160413591
It's like people don't read what they don't want to read.
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>>160413591
>targeted
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>>160413523
>>160413590
these are some very underage posts

have a free (You)
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>>160413458
I'm running a slightly modified Demon midrange list.
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>>160401569
So that they can add other elemental sigils as new Runecraft deck types

We can have Water sigils/rites, Fire sigils/rites, Wind sigils/rites, etc... Each of them have different playstyles like how Earth Sigil is focused on Guardian Golems
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>>160413678
Reminds me of the times I tried to use CheatEngine on Runescape back in the day.
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>>160413647
So it only prevent enemy fellowers spells? Not sure i get it still. If so it is pretty useless.
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>>160413591
If you want to protect your followers from Themis, go Forest and use Elf Girl Liza.

One turn of protection
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>>160413523
please, I started this game 1 1/2 month ago and I'm now 45 cards away from owning every card this game has at least once
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>>160413267
This is a very good advice, I lost a game to decking a few games ago with Dshift vs control sword.
Aggressive midrange/control start looks like a bad banner draw and as Dshift you have to play accordingly.
Just don't do the mistake of Otohimeing your board shut in midgame.
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>>160413752
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>>160413768
But that not how it works...
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>>160413752
No, it only prevents effects that need to be specifically targetted.
A spell like themis that clears the field without targetting anything doesn't proc the resist
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>>160413752
You are dumb.
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>>160413768
Can we get a chinese anime girl for this guy too.
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>>160413752
It only protects you from spells and effects that require you to select a target.

It doesn't protect from spells that randomly target or target the whole board/side
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>>160413768
>>160413809
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>>160413807
>>160413815
Thanks

>>160413808
Yes i know.

>>160413794
Fucking stupid animeposter.
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>>160413768
>>160413809
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>>160413694
Here's a masters jap streamer playing a variation of it madokakira on twitch

The dance version is a modified version of the demon royal list made by the tryhardy royal-only guy in the ranks. Master's teachings is this kuroyansyadoba dude's tech, but the demon strike is generally inferior to dance as noted by most other players
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>got 5 Eves off of the same Tia
That must've been so fucking frustrating to play against, holy shit. Poor Control Sword bro.
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>>160413809
Earned a chuckle out of me, good one lad
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>>160413858
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>19 2 drops?
>6 1 drops?
>Nah senpai, have all 3 copies of your only 6 drop and half your 4 drops while the fucking slow, greedy control deck has his 1 drop
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>eu kids wake up
>thread goes to shit
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>>160413950
Dragons?
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>>160413570
>>160413621
>>160413794
>>160413857
>>160413862
>>160413948
>>160414004
>>160414030
What the hell have I done?
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>>160414029
Dragon, Blood, Sword, Shadow, literally any aggro deck I play, I have double 5+ cards and the rest is 3s and 4s, while Haven and Rune have their 1 every single fucking time.
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>>160413873
I've actually thought about using Dance instead but sometimes you really just need that one extra damage to finish someone off.
Believe it or not I was running Demon Strike in my less optimized midrange royal way before that list came out and it's been doing work.
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>>160414213
I'm usually against a pile of havens and elves and the random midrange value mirror so that damage really doesn't matter much for me

Even against dshift dancing the ice wall is often gameturning. But whatever works for you really
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>Invite 4 or so friends to play SV
>They don't play ccgs a lot so think I can teach them a thing or two
>They netdeck and make an Elana, aggrobat and bannermeme in less than a week

Fuck me for trying
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Why is he so useless?
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83765
Need a concede
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>tfw I bought the Shadowverse Girls 2 doujin off melonbooks.com by that artist who loves to bully Forte even though my JP isnt that good

Hopefully I can tell whats going on based on context
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>>160414296
Be thankful your friends can fend for themselves.
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>>160414325
Thanks Vania.
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>>160414335
You could honestly learn enough Jap to read 80% of it before it gets to you.
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>>160414296
Is there something wrong with it?
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>>160414310
Azazel?
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>>160414310
Where's my el dorado swordcraft legendary cygames

I don't want this homolord. Give me the others or amira
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>>160414397
I can read and write hiragana and katakana and know enough for convos

The problem is the kanji...no wonder people take years for that
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>>160414405
The problem is none of them play their decks properly because they just ganked them from the net.

They're all stuck at C.
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>>160414293
Maybe I should cut one for a dance then, I gotta admit sometimes I wish I could just remove a big body without losing tempo.
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>>160414487
>think i can teach them a thing or two
>nevermind theyre netdecking ill complain about it online instead
nani
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>>160414487
>They're all stuck at C.
How the fuck

I have no TCG experience and I'm having no issues in A
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>Getting outplayed by Blood player the entire game
>Reaches a board state where I know nothing in my deck can bring me back and he just has to clear my board to win, thinking of conceding
>He leaves my Skull Beast alive the turn after I dropped Cerberus to get greedy face damage in
>Demonic Strike, Coco and Mimi for game
I should really just never concede in hopes that my opponent misplays every game.
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What 6-drops do I get rid of? My hand looks like this like half the fucking time and it loses me games by itself. 3 Otohimes, 3 Sages and 3 Alwidas is just too fucking much.
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>PtP decks while I play DS Rune for dailies
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Anyone here running Dark Offering for heal Seraph?
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>>160414610
I swear you're keeping these in your mulligan on purpose.
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>>160414659
I literally got that 2 minutes ago. Still won that match but having five 6-drops is nasty.
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>>160414610
Post your goddamn list.
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>>160414610
Just quit.
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>>160414610
my mid sword deck would have two of each legendary and two sages
three otos is especially dangerous cause she's not always worth playing
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>>160414693
I don't fucking know anymore. This is retarded. This deck is retarded. I'm considering building some Haven cancer.
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>>160414712
You're not worth playing you degenerate
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>>160414310
Wait till you win with him and Mary
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During my B rank promotion matches, some Haven Garuda net-deck shitter used Execute on my Seraph when I only had 2 countdown reduction cards for turn 9 and he had lethal on board. BEST FEEL EVER
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>>160414773
If it's garuda it should've been dance of death but yeahhhh
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>>160414752
You're still not even posting your decklist or looking for constructive criticism. Just play Face Dragon.
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>>160414487
How can you be stuck at C.

You can be sub-50% winrate and still climb at a decent pace in C.
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>>160414903
I was in a match. One of those two. Both have insane amount of 6-drops, and all of them seem necessary for it to work.
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>>160408606
late but i just wna say i love you
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>>160401429
Is there a recommended tracking program like hearthstonetracker for this game?
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>>160414763
kys midget trap
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>>160415058
Don't think so. We don't even have a website listing card quotes, much less an actual addon to track stuff.
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>>160415058
We only have manual logging as of now.
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Shadow or Haven for Take Two?
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>>160414610
You'd cry like a baby if you played CSword.
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Amazing what you can do when you play Shadow 3/5 times
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I guess I'm evolving shit today.
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>>160415420
Although I didn't realise you could get a reward this bad though

It's 50 gold less in value than the 2 packs, 200 gold reward
>>
97910
need a private win
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>>160415496
thanks!
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Which? I think I'm tending towards right for consistency and Phantom Howl seems shit
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Y/N?
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>arena
>two games in a row going first
>two games in a row without two drops
>i have eight of them
nice, gonna be a nice 4-1 run.
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>>160415676
phantom howl is great
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>>160415731
What the fuck are you asking?
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>>160412405
Already? Isn't that game popular as fuck? It even has an upcoming anime.
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>>160415757
You mean 1-4, right anon?
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>>160402676
Thanks for this Anon, not the original poster but I'm trying to learn a secondary class after spamming midrange swords to AA0.
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>>160415871
No, I'm not fucking losing to a fucking rune.
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>>160415483
You could get 1 pack, 200 rupies and 50 vials.
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>>160415731
a hand can hold 9 cards?
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>Erika still hasn't lost a single time in Shadowverse channel
I can't tell if she's genuinely GUD or the other two just suck shit.
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>>160415731
Actual worst legendary in the game. Skullfane, Dominator, Souldealer and Pluto have nothing on how shit she is.
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>>160415920
I lost to a fucking rune.
Jesus Christ.
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>doing Take Two
>usually get 3-2 W/L record
>decide to try out sword
>draft Leonidas without really thinking too much about it
>mfw Leonidas' Resolve
>mfw Leonidas's damage output
>mfw Leonidas carrying me to victory
>mfw 5-0

I didn't realize how awesome this guy is
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I can't even get a single fucking gold out of these DE packs
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>Haven
>Haven
>Haven
>Haven
>Haven
>More fucking Haven

Who's dick do I need to suck this make this pain stop?
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>>160416084
mine
you can start right now
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>>160416084
Healsluts are the most unfun thing to play against.
I fucking hate them so much.
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>>160416048
Kek
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Guys, what is Erika angry about again?
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>shadow PtP deck
>runs multiple humpties
>explodes them in my face
Nicely memed.
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Does any shadow deck actually run these two cards?

The liquefy guide says to keep them but nothing I can find actually runs them
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>>160416206
Banner envy
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>>160416268
midrange?
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>>160416206
That she's about to get corrected
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>>160416268
They actually can be useful someday.

Wait for the next expansion
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>>160416268
Ceridwen sees some play in Atomy Aggro. Wight King doesn't see any use right now but unless you have a pressing need for vials, he's really not a bad card as much as he suffers from the meta. 4 shadows on turn 4 is easy right now but you've got other priorities and he wins match ups that're already in your favour and loses the ones against you.
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Anyone know what the go to Control Blood list is?

I want one just to price out how many vials I'd need but I'm not sure if gamepress' list is anywhere near up to date, they tend to be shit for non top-tier decks
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Are there any good guides on how to play Dimension Shift? Does Solitaire even needs a guide?
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>>160416684
Always keep dshift in hand even against face matchups

Keep class specific removal. Kaleidoscopic glow is almost always kept
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tfw getting bored of the game because I'm so far off making another deck
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>>160416684
Know your card order, use 1 damage on bodies against fast decks, face against slow, keep 1 dshift, mull away destroyers, adjust to meta.

Deck isn't that hard to pilot, it's the meta game that complicates it. You need to know match ups and build well but actual play is just popping removal efficiently for the most part which is fairly obvious.
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>>160416864
Arena, my man. Tons of money and you get to play stuff you usually wouldn't, it isn't that bad.
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>>160416084
Just play face aggro and calling it a day
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>>160416864
Just only do dailies for a couple of days

Then you'll have enough gold to play arena whenever.
There's no point spending money because the pack to dollar ratio is really bad
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2c0bfc1bLIY
Isabelle's VA guest starring on Sugita's radio show and talking about Shadowverse and other random shit.
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I accept power creep as an inevitability, but I'm a little worried. We're two sets in and the game went fast too soon for me. We won't see any formats for another year and a half minimum, so it'll be a long time before anything can get rotated out. Control kills are times at 8 right now and aggro will only clock faster from here on.

How would you fix this to improve design space? I think we need more wards leaned towards midrange statting.
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What's the point of sandbagging if you can't drop in ranks. You only lose score when you sandbag, and when you start winning again don't you just gain the same points back you lost during your sandbagging.
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>>160417238
>power creep
most of the bullshit cards are out of standard
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>>160417238
30 hp.
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>>160417293
>this kills the aggro
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>>160417420
Is that a problem?
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Forte eats dragon smegma.
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Is there an emulator I can set up to automatically reroll?
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>>160417283
I meant to say that every deck can only become more powerful in the foreseeable future because they'll get more options.

Game is way too young to start removing anything from the pool, so there's only up to go.
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This seems like a relatively strong card. Why isn't it used?
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>>160417238
The rampant aggression in game is just a direct response to the combo decks where the only way to win is to kill them before they can get their combo off.
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>>160417549
She looks like a slag.
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>>160417558
I also think 2nd having 3 evolutions is a factor, aggro tends to kill the opponent before that 3rd evo comes into play.
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DING DONG
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>>160417635
BANE?
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>>160417549
its just 6 mana 6\6 bruh
dont expect to combo here with anything
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>>160417486
It is. This ins't Hearthstone where half the ladder is aggro, the deck diversity has been pretty good in this game and I hope it keeps itself like that.
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What does "Star-ing" a card do?
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>>160417680
Can't be dusted occasionally.
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>>160417661
>It is. This ins't Hearthstone where half the ladder is aggro
Actually, over half of the ladder is aggro, perhaps even more since I last checked.

At least high ranks don't have much aggro.
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>>160417680
Makes it so the liquify button doesn't work until you unstar it, also puts it under the starred filter while browsing the collection.
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>>160417751
Well aggro is cheaper. There's tons of non-whales who enjoy playing the game
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>>160417680
It lets the card know you have special feelings for it. :)
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start to panic in take2 when sword pulls a leonidas. top deck rise of dead which I forgot I had, get double mordecai on field and evolve and kill the dude. both one turn away from losing but what are you gonna do to double mordecai with just rush?
I love this skeleton
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>>160417751
I'm sorry, I fucked up the wording, I meant the upper side of the ladder.
Earlier on aggro will be prevalent for two reasons:
>faster games
>costs less than the average control/combo/midrange deck
After you get to A the ladder is full of Haven, Forest and right now Rune with the occasional aggro Blood.
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>>160417785
Even though its far better here than in hearthstone, yeah aggro is cheaper. Nerfing aggro won't address the main reason for its popularity, cost.
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>>160417680
Make it your waifu
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>>160417785
It is cheaper, but it's also because aggro is a lot stronger here. Lifepool is lower and evo mechanic is basically +2dmg for aggro.
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>>160417893
It's also why shaman is so obscenely popular right now but yeah that's unrelated

I do have a sneaking suspicion that after nips knock off work at JST 1800-1900 the incidence rate of elana havens skyrocket

Maybe it's the casual deck? It is pretty cheap to build honestly
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>>160417980
Is playing Elana really supposed to be relaxing?
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>>160417862
Outskilled. Good job Luna!
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>>160418012
It takes basically no skill, is cheap and doesn't burn out like lolibats and so doesn't have to scramble for that kill ASAP. I'd say it's pretty relaxing.
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>>160417980
Haven does need a nerf though because it has some utterly buusted cards, not all of them are aggro related either.

When people complain about aggro being overpowered they should really specify if they mean aggro or if they mean haven.
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>>160417959
There is no way that aggro here is half as strong and popular as face hunter ever was on it's prime and probably shaman before they nerfed tuskarr (maybe, I quit before that shitshow).
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>>160418103
I'll make a reminder to stay away from JP hours then
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>>160418012
Seems like Havenfags fall into a coma every turn with how long they take.
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>>160418117
In general due to the mechanics of the game, aggro is stronger here than in HS.
As you said though, there are exceptions related to how retarded HS balancing is.
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>>160417785
I completed my Dshift deck after like 5 hours of f2p play.
Elana haven is also pretty cheap.
You don't have to play aggro if you don't want to.
It's that aggro is ALWAYS the most popular deck type in EVERY ccg ever.
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>>160417959
Then this game is only about haven and rune sluts
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>>160418117
Dunno m8. Lolibats with an ideal draw can win before turn 6.
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>>160418117
Face hunter was pretty fun to pilot though in addition to being powerful.
At least when it involved freezing traps and shit.
It was kinda like playing Delver in MTG.
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>>160418012
It's the lazy man's class. It's ultra-reactive and doesn't really have a gameplan other than drawing well and reactively. Not going to use MTG analogies here but it's extremely similar to priest in hearthstone

You draw the right removals and you gain immense value with undercosted nonsense such as themis, 2 for 1s with cudgel. You don't draw the right stuff you still get carried by turn 1 plea(insane card advantage for 1, like what the fuck) turn 2 aria

It's honestly really braindead. An aggro deck or midrange deck against a competent opponent who mulligans aggressively is often on a clock and has to either take advantage of a poor draw by opponents, or maximizing whatever resources he has. It's actually pretty high-tier decision making sometimes thought not always. I've hit legend at least in the double-digits on cuckboistone and I roll my eyes every time I hear how handlock/renolock is harder to pilot than zoo. Control in hearthstone is completely intuitive unlike MTG honestly

Sorry for rambling but it just ticks me off sometimes how people underwrite aggro/mid decks
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NE NE, NANISHITE ASOBUNOOOOOOO?
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>>160418271
I want to play with Whore Child May!
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>>160418240
If they nerfed elana's so that it only triggered when actual health was restored it would suddenly be a very different deck, with actual counterplay other than kill them before it's an issue.
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>>160418153
>>160418185
I think you guys are comparing turns like it's a 1:1 ratio while it ins't.
To clarify, in general, Shadowverse games are faster than hearthstone games. We don't have fatigue battles and even though we have 10 more cards, draw in general is more common, til today I've seen two decks go down to 1 and 0, one was a PtP Forest and the other one was DS Rune.
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I'm using an emulator to reroll to convince myself that the odds of getting something decent from 40 packs is too low to bother with

There is no possible flaw in this plan
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>>160418271
I HATE THEM
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>>160418316
And made seraph into non last word. And made aria's falcon have rush and garuda choosing to cd, or damage.
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>>160418271
MC of the next victim girls.
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>>160418316
There is counterplay though, you can out control elana pretty easily.
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>>160418412
>Outcontrol
>When they have so much draw they can contest rune
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>>160418412
Not since Elana/Seraph

Complaining about old elana was for shitters but the new shit is broken

>>160418463
As Csword I have enough wards to make Elana players deck themselves
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Man, it seriously only takes like a week or two to get enough vials for a leggo mulching only duplicates. When I think back on HS, it took like several fucking months. It's crazy how generous this game is. Weirdly enough, that's what got me to spend money on this as opposed to jew fuckery like HS, where I'm staunchly opposed to spending even a single cent.
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>>160418584
I did the one time deal but I don't like only opening one pack a day so I'll doubt I'll ever spend more money unless they get some sweet portraits
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>>160418463
>so much draw they can contest rune
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>>160418584
You spend money on this game because it's actually fun, the meta is diverse

You don't spend money on curvestone because the card design and arrogance of the developers has made the game a fucking joke. They have a platform for adjusting card balance on the go but they absolutely refuse to. You shouldn't support that.
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>>160418584
I really liked this anime. It was comfy as fuck. Season 2 when?
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>>160418584
This game allows for 3 copies of any legendary on your deck, though. So it makes sense that it is easier to obtain one.
But you're right, since we've got more cards per pack and more gold per day the game ends up being more generous
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>>160418584
I played Jewstone for two years and never spent a cent.
I played SV for a month and I've already spent 60 burgers.
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>>160418584
I played HS until the second expansion and spent like ÂŁ100 and I only ever had two decks

I've played this for a month and I have 3 complete decks and about 13k vials
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>>160418584
>>160418679
>>160418754
I can't be the only idiot here who spent a few hundreds on Hearthstone before it was fucked beyond repair.
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Are any of the non-meta decks like Mary Blood, Control Shadow or Pascal fun?

Working on my next deck and forest looks fun but also likely to be nerfed to death
>>160418842
I spent like 140 IIRC

I tried to go back to it the other week and I'd need to spend like ÂŁ80 just to catch up
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>>160418842
I spent the in the starter pack
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>>160418842
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>>160418842
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>>160418842
I bought the explorer expansion but that's pretty much it.
I got a ton of gold from farming arena before the automated drafting was a thing.
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>>160418889
the game is fresh lad these cards will se a play some day
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>>160418842
This was me last month. I'm way deeper down the rabbit hole than you man

I'm sick and tired of shamans(you see who that opponent is?) and shadowverse actually renewed my interest in TCGs
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Looking for some people to play with and talk with about the game. Feel free to add me

http://steamcommunity.com//id/TimidAsaMouse/
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>>160418842
>that feel when spent $130+ on hearthstone and still only had shit decks
>haven't spent anything in this game and already have a few great decks and am close to finishing my tempo elf

Jewstone was a mistake.
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>>160418842
I've never regretted buying anything as much as I regret spending money on Hearthstone.
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>>160418995
Play with and talk about the game? You mean, like, the entire purpose of this general? Moron.
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>>160418889
>Pascal
Why would you build around a bad card?
Earthrite is a fun control deck if that what's your asking.
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concede pls.

87735
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>>160418995
>not slut anime girl avatar
Nope
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>>160418842
Haven't spent a single dime, but I've also been playing since the beginning and back then getting 9 wins in Arena was laughably easy. I'm still missing many Basic epics and most leggos from any pack expansions.
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>>160418584
It's more generous than HS but after new expansions to come it'll be hard to maintain a meta deck without at least buying some packs from time to time.

I'm already spending money in this game because I want to build control decks without burning all other legendaries. Unless you're crazy enough to burn everything you think you don't need which might bite you back in later updates.

I don't think F2P people can remain competitive in this game for too long.
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http://live.nicovideo.jp/watch/lv282241252
dragon master player
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>>160418584
This game gives awful value for your money and is jew as fuck in that regard so I don't spend a single penny.

Thanks to whales like you for keeping it alive~
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>>160419108
nice bone avatar anon how did you get it?
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>>160419114
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>>160406126
>Eternal
But it looks like shit
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Why does no midrange list run my waifu?

i felt that running 1 or 2 makes for a decent finisher, but i'm still only in rank A
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>>160419148
Master meta is so chill. Ramp dragons and earthrites gee

Of course there's the fuckheads who go elf no matter what
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>>160418995
We have a discord if you want, but you're most likely baiting so here's a (You).
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>>160419187
Run her in control, she's fun there.
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>>160419108

THANK YOU BASED SKELLY

MAY CALCIUM BLESS YOUR BONES
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>>160407503
even with my meager nip knowledge its pretty funny

erika's VA draws pretty well
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>>160419042
The only thing i regret more than spending money on Hearthstone is the fact that i forgot the secret question and can't even sell the account to get some money back.

I completely stopped playing shortly after the WotOG and i had a shitload of good cards, had all of the adventures, had a wallet warrior and a freeze mage decks ready to go (which are the most expensive ones, you know), and built myself a couple of new decks a few days after the expansion hit and i still had enough dust to create something more.

YET I CAN'T EVEN GET RID OF IT
IT'S JUST FUCKING USELESS AND I SPENT MONEY ON IT
FUCK
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>>160418995
>Oregon, USA
Sorry, I don't make friends with 3rd worlders.
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>tfw so poor that buying the special $6 deal is already a decent investment that I can't afford right now
>stuck with one deck for god knows how long
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>>160419187
Your waifu flashes her panties to everyone she sees.
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>>160419140
A lot of people here don't realize it, but card games get more and more difficult to get into as they grow. The more cards are added, the more hyper efficient decks become and the more you have to look for specific cards. Even on the side of Cygames, they've already reduced freebies by quite a bit. There was a time when they'd give packs for simply having a maintenance and like 3 packs if it got extended; that doesn't happen anymore.
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>>160415471
Left is better, anon. You will LOSE games by drawing and playing the Sanctuary. It's so bad.
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>>160419175

sorry can't find out how i think i got from last months score rewards
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>>160419187
Alwida is better as a finisher - 2 less PP with just 1 less damage.
Charlotte is better in control due to being a fatter ward.
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Need a surrender for private quest pls.

52022
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>>160419371
Don't worry about it I'll get it eventually
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Did you find the one?
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>>160418489
>Elana/Seraph
What does the list look like?
3 Plea
3 Aria
3 Elana

9 healdorks
3 prism
3 cudgel

3 banish
3 themis
3 heal draw

That's 33 already, do you just add 2 seraph and 3 dogma and hope they don't get stranded in your hand?
That sounds like making already inconsitent and slow deck even slower and more inconsistent.
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Accept this gift!
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>>160419475
I don't accept gifts from womanlets.
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>>160418676
>Three draw 2 cards, six to nine draw 1 cards
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>>160419475
Sorry, i don't accept gifts from dorks.
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>>160419371
I actually just went through my list and it's there, I feel pretty silly now.
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>>160419378

Thanks Aussie.
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>>160419440
The one what?
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>>160418387
>implying that won't be Erika
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>>160419503
>>160419518
Why don't you love her like she does?
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>>160419539
Why do I never see anyone play Urd?
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>>160419606
She's a cartoon. She does not love me.
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>>160419149
>This game gives awful value for your money and is jew as fuck in that regard so I don't spend a single penny.
It's much better than HS and most of the other games that use that model for value for money

Having more cards per pack and higher lego chances is great
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>>160419631
I use her for shadow shenanigans.
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>>160419475
>Dork
Gross
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>>160419686
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>>160419517
vs
3 draw 2s
12-14 draw 1s
+ 2-3 merlins
+ 2-3 levis
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>>160419671
>It's much better than HS
Not really saying much considering HS is jew as fuck.

> and most of the other games that use that model for value for money
Duelyst and Faeria both give much better returns per $.

There's a reason why most of us are free players - the paywall is too ridiculous even with the daily deal. Thanks for keeping it alive for us though, senpai.
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>>160419739
>Duelyst and Faeria both give much better returns per $.
They're much smaller games

And fuck I got every card in faeria for spending like ÂŁ15 when it was still in the crowdfunding phase, that's like infinite value
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>take two tidbits

>classes that are prone to score 5 wins
>Tier 1: Forestcraft
>Tier 2: Swordcraft + Dragoncraft + Havencraft
>Tier 3: Runecraft + Shadowcraft
>Tier 4: Bloodcraft

>classes that are suited for beginners with average of 3 wins
>Tier 1: Swordcraft
>Tier 2: Dragoncraft + Shadowcraft
>Tier 3: Forestcraft
>Tier 4: Runecraft + Bloodcraft + Havencraft

Source: game-ai
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When did this "Forte is a dork" meme even fucking start.
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>>160419631
Havencancer everywhere makes Last Word minions terrible, which in turn makes Urd only good for Storm combo shenanigans.
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>>160419539
>ywn have qt Urd sleeve
Steam vercion was a mistake.
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>>160419739
I know you can buy it all in faeria for the price of like 80 packs in SV but the actual pack odds in faeria are kind poop

I'm too bad at that game anyway to spend money on it
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>>160419739
i never tried faeria but doesn't duelyst have the same jewish system as hearthstone?
>>
Decks you want to see get viable that aren't yet.

>discard Dragoncraft
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>>160419739
Faeria is the exception rather than the rule, but yes it makes SV money value look like Hearthstone's in comparison.

Haven't played Duelyst either, but I recall my friend telling me the legendary rate was insanely high like 25% or something.
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Didn't the devs totally ruin Duelyst hence the general dying?
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>>160419868
Pretty glad I started just in time.
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>>160420061
Duelyst was never big enough to sustain the general in the first place.

I'd argue the same goes for us since we have the same ~150 IPs, but we circlejerk a lot more so whatever.
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tfw loads of strong legendaries but no fun ones
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>>160419720
>levi
>card draw

>magic missile, insight, sorcery cache
And merlin does the same thing as prism priestess
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>>160419148
god damn that quality is absolute ass
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>>160401429
unnnnggg F L A T
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>>160420145
Merlin double draws with evo.

Regardless you're retarded since Haven only relies on sacred plea and conditional prism priest to draw.
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>>160419217
Mind posting the discord?

I was mostly posting my Steam so that people could rate my swordcraft decks
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>>160404806
theres you forte
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>>160420014
You must have had insanely good luck, because Faeria rates are pretty low.

Duelyst recently nerfed their leggo rates down to 15%, which is still double that of shadowverse's mind you.
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>4 arena matches in a row I play mirror Havens
end this pls
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New player here

What are my options for combo decks? I don't really like pure aggro or control

Forest is the only obvious one but they, esp ancient elf, look so strong that they're gonna get nerfed.
So any alternatives?
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>>160420247
Yeah and monastic water/radiance angel that every heal runs 3x of, do nothing.
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>>160404806
theres you storm
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>>160420369
So 3 draws compared to Rune's like 10?
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>>160420145
There's also Glow, and some lists run 2x Trail of Light.

1x Witchbolt for a Wind Blast is also a thing in a couple recent decks.
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>>160404806
>not posting best girl
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I hate banish so fucking much
and all of you haven players as well
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My favorite thing to do in dshift after dshifting into lethal range is sitting there waiting for the enemy to concede
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>>160420248
https://discord.gg/XQpaQ
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>>160420458
It's been a while since i watched this but yeah, she had the best episode. I'm kinda surprised someone recognized the short series she's from.
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>>160404806
It depends on the meta.
But it's also pretty cheap to make.
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>>160415731
>i somehow have two of these

Should I scrap one to get vials for an Ancient Elf?
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>>160420809
WHY WOULD YOU MAKE THEM IN THE FIRST PLACE YOU ABSOLUTE MADMAN
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>>160420809
It's the worst lego in the game in a class with two of the best in the game
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>>160401429
I'm not into lolis but those hips and thighs are fucking god tier.
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>playing forest vs banner fag
>use the same fairy beast 3 times
>still doesn't concede
At least they have heart.
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>>160417635

Requesting fanart of bane dingdong killing atomy
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>>160420852
>MAKE THEM
I misread it as i "i somehow made two of them" presuming you tried crafting one for some meme deck and made two.
I really need to read things twice before reacting.
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>>160416045
>not living the princess into rose meme dream
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>>160420884
but what about all the "X cards in your hand" effects

might make for a good meme deck
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>tfw you have lethal in hand but ignore it to watch other player squirm
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>>160420937
They prolly don't even know you can concede.
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>>160420984
There's a fairy princess/rose queen deck

It's really expensive and really slow
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>>160416084
Isabelle's
Play Dshift and rape those sluts
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>>160420442
>10
>magic missile, insight, sorcery cache, glow
Trail of light is neutral and merlin is basically the same as priestess, unless you evolve.

And who even runs scholarly witch and witchbolt.
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>elana and moon
wtf am I playing against
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>>160421012
>tfw when you have an easy lethal in hand with dance of death but you top deck an even spicier lethal that you know will make your opponent rage
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>>160421063
Merlin is better than prism considering the most core cards in spellboost (DShift, FD) can be targeted by her.

Prism priest has a lot of shitty amulets to filter through and only really began seeing play in DE thanks to Bird Haven being broken as fuck. Prior to that she was used almost exclusively to search for sacred pleas.
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>>160421063
>unless you evolve
You don't play rune do you?
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>>160420884

What ones are considered the best? Just managed to unpack Tia from a T2 reward but thats ny only legendary for forest other than my two princesses.

>>160420984

In fairness I've actually pulled off janky shit with fairy princess. Its a good card to keep till its the last in your hand so you can then stock up on fairies for combos on late game draws. Actually won a few games by drawing the game out long enough that the other player was topdecking and out of nowhere I had a hand full of faries to prod him to death as he tried to get anything he could on the board to defend himself. Whether thats better than having a useful card is another matter.
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What is it with people saying that aggro decks kill Dshift?

I admit, Bloodcraft can be difficult without a good draw, but Swordcraft collapses under a couple of Angelic Barrages/Fire Chains. Are there any others that I haven't encountered yet?
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>>160421063
>what is pot of greed
Do you even know rune?
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>>160421236
Tia and Elf are ridiculous
Then roach and Elf Knight Cynthia from golds
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>Dshift is t1 again
>no more snowman
Explain this meme
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>>160421263

Ive already got two Cynthias, which I pair up with windgods for dank memes.

I'm yet to get any roaches somehow so is it worth crafting two if I have the vials?
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NEW THREAD
>>160421415
>>160421415
>>160421415
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>>160421237
It has minus 50% matchups against Tempo Elf, Storm Haven, Banner, Face Dragon, Aggro Shadow and Aggro Bats
http://game-ai.jp/shadowverse/new-card-environment-tier-rankings/

Notice a general trend?
I've yet to lose to dshift when playing face dragon since I started tracking, dshift sucks in that matchup

>>160421397
They're your finisher
A decent roach combo is how you get to lethal. I'd craft them ASAP if this is the deck you're making
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>>160421237
Personal Experience Means Nothing
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After playing Haven in arena I gotta say I kinda like it. It's relaxing and pretty fun. Playing against it is pure cancer tho.
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>>160421424
>migrating threads before bump limit

We're a popular thread now!
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>>160414310
He saved me once in take two when I was near death and I hadn't done shit to my opponent. Every other time I had him in my deck playing him would have hurt more than it would have helped.
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>>160418842
>spent $90 on HS

lord why
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