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Shadowverse is a class-based collectible card game akin hearthstone.
The Steam version launched on October 28th.

Platforms: iOS, Android, Steam (http://store.steampowered.com/app/453480/)

Official Website:
https://shadowverse.com/

Card Database / Deck Editor:
https://shadowverse-portal.com/

Intro Guide/FAQ:
http://pastebin.com/xNmQuDzR (read this if you're new)
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Ibw62rcFMrkvWl_KPKUuRC_0f7LbvwE27ubQ-EJo0oQ/edit?usp=sharing

Take 2 Card Rankings:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1k55fDS9LpX66H-pm5EgGouqwQSCF-sje-o5UwrXUwdI/htmlview#

Get your cheat sheets here: http://imgur.com/a/Dpbmh

Friend list:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1DKn9RybTNTQ3a8cm-68KvDOHCFBRK8VDD2JVO8HTUWg/edit?usp=sharing
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Some anon made an all-in-one Steam undub and uncensor for the lazy or mentally handicapped. Open wide and enjoy responsibly:

https://mega.nz/#!tl1mGaIQ

Decryption key: !tsu910nR6lT_xTQAx9QUNI_96DLJ0mvgIwwThp5lPS4
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Artwork of all the cards, ripped from the game:

https://mega.nz/#!ekIjXaza!qKXIP9x0tZ5ooNDXk-HHudlUBiZR_Zt3pmF4PhYMxrI

Come here if you want to search for card artworks:

http://www.corpetit.com/public/rage_of_bahamut/

Search by artists:

http://seesaawiki.jp/mnga_bahamut/

Dead: >>160334195
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Play The Elder Scrolls™: Legends.
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Post waifus.
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>>160350061
(You)
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Moving here
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>>160350858
(You)
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Holy shit Soul Grinder is amazing. Literally blocked the fuck out of everything a havenfag tried to throw at me, and I kept bringing him back with other cards every time he did manage to kill him.
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>>160351286
Are you really going to bump this shitty thread?
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>>160351418
Dunno man I just chose one and posted in whichever. What's shitty about this one in particular?
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>>160351418
Better than that other one with discordfaggotry.
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>>160351491
It doesn't have his circlejerk faggotry in the OP so he's buttmad about it.
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>>160351491
A thread war is going on right now so shitposters are vying for control.
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>>160351584
>>160351491
>>160351548
No, it's thread wars, the killer of generals. I hate the Discord faggotry too, and the /hsg/, while funny, really isn't that important, but you guys are being faggots.
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>>160351680
Unless jannies directly intervene, discord posting will always cause thread wars.

Doesn't help that shitposters and people directly from the discord put that their information along with the hearthstone thread in the OP fuck with everyone
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>>160352172
>implying anything is wrong with the hearthstone meme
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>>160352589
>bumping your own thread
lmao you lost get over it
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How do I pilot a Storm Haven deck? Tips?
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>>160353949
Just hit face my man.
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>>160354052
this
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>>160352424
There are many things wrong with the hearthstone meme.
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>>160361602
Sure kiddo, keep bumping your shit thread. We all see the IP count.
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>>160362457
Not my thread but you sound salty you discord shitter.
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>>160363117
I already said discord is retarded. Making another thread and then pathetically bumping it is worse, especially when you're a hearthshitter.
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Dude arena gives darkness evolve packs

is it limited or permanent?
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>>160373917
It's a promotion, so not permanent
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WHO WALLET DECKS HERE?
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>>160350623
MILF Kokonoe?
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Can someone post a cheap bannermeme deck? I need it for my dailies
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>>160374674
>Cheap bannermeme deck
As opposed to the really expensive Banner deck?
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>>160374502
One day I'll make a control Royal.
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>>160374502
>40k deck lose to 11k deck
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>>160374674
you know anon that bannermeme is already cheap
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>>160374736
Yes
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>>160374816
That basic ass roach combo wasn't worth a webm
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>>160374674
>cheap bannermeme
Is this some kind of meme?
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>>160374410
How long does it last
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>>160374959
But it was my first basic ass roach combo.
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>>160374953
40k banner deck when?
Now that would be a real meme deck
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>>160374736
>>160374890
>>160374991
Just give me a list you fucking cucks
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>>160374736
Alwida's command is a little expensive. Kinda.
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>>160375089
Its called Control Sword
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>>160375127
3 banners, 3 floral fencers, 3 quick blades. Fill the rest with whatever
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>>160375048
did you really play against a havendeck running 2 hare of illusions?
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>>160375036
Probably until the latest expansion comes out. So a little under 2 months
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Can someone help me with a private match quest?
The room id is: 76443
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>>160375127
Here you go, a cheap banner deck
https://shadowverse-portal.com/deck/1.2.5-Hb2.5-Hb2.5-Hb2.5-HbC.5-HbC.5-HbC.625kg.625kg.625kg.628AI.628AI.628AI.65yJI.65yJI.65yJI.62Acs.62Acs.62Acs.65-lY.65-lY.65-lY.61PnY.5-K1I.5-K1I.5-K1I.5-KGw.5-KGw.5-KGw.62D2o.62D2o.62D2o.62D36.62D36.62D36.62BLa.62BLa.62BLa.61SDo.61SDo.65GMo#
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>>160375127
https://shadowverse-portal.com/deckbuilder/create/2?hash=1.2.5-Hb2.5-Hb2.5-Hb2.625k2.625k2.65wcO.65wcO.5-HbC.5-HbC.625kg.625kg.625kg.625lc.625lc.625lc.628AI.628AI.628AI.65z2e.61O4K.5-HbM.5-HbM.625lI.625lI.625lI.65yJS.65yJS.65yJS.626TE.626TE.5-K1I.5-K1I.5-K1I.5-KGw.5-KGw.5-KGw.659nE.65vtg.65vtg.65yJm
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When is the finals of that RAGE tournament they had i think last month?
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>>160375127
Bannerets, Gunner Maids, Floral Fencers, Banners, 1-2 Olivias

Banner is basically the nickname for an evolve synergy deck for sword.
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>>160375036
It ends some time on the 30th this month.
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Any news on more alternate portraits in the near future?
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>>160375127
3x Banner
3x Floral Fencer
3x Centaur
3x Quickblader
3x Novice Trooper
3x Ruthless Assassin
3x Maid
3x Conscription or Avant Blader

fill the rest with whatever
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>>160375263
You need 3 maidos and 2 avant blader/conscription.

And then filter for storm and shove everything that has 3 or less PP into there.
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>>160375413
Thanks man. it's a good thing I already have all the legends needed
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>>160375578
We should be getting a set at the end of December which is the likely time for the new expansion.

Before anyone starts being bothered by "one set an expansion", keep in mind that the game hasn't been out half a year yet and we're going to have something like about 5 sets in a year at this rate where most of them are never seen.
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>>160375567
I've added Leonidas and Olivia to my banner and I'm satisfied with results.
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>REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>160375413
you forgot the Aurelia x 3 anon
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>>160375783
>3 Banners and Leonidas's Resolve on board all at once
>Quickblader turns into Genesis Dragon
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>>160375412
Thank you!
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>>160375567
Do games even last till turn 10+?
I don't think I've ever had that happen.
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>>160375797
oh hey, your MMR caught up with you
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>>160376123
He's lying
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>>160375773

but can you TALK TO THEM?

I mean, I'm not particularly social myself but not having the option is actually bothering me quite a bit.
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>>160376353
I've been rused
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Le intern man of interesting posts.
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This is one of the moments in card games I live for, only forte can save him. I was so scared hitting the end turn button.
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Well shit, what do I do if I run into an afker? It's only unranked, but I'm trying to grind out win missions.
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So I saw some people run ding dong in midrange dragon and I tried it but it seems shitty.
I Always mulligan it away if I see it even against aggro

Is there a point to ding dong other than combo decks?
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I'm unironically bad and get run over by every single deck.
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Got a my 2nd satan from a pack from dailies, what do?
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>>160376814
Cash in on that 2k
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>>160376648
>MAMMA GET THE VIDEO RECORDING DEVICE
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>>160376881
when are kys'ing you'reself?
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>>160376648

> MAWUUUUMM THE KODAK
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If you average 300 vials a pack, and 25 packs every 15 days which is all your login rewards and 120 vials of rupies a day, you make 7'500 vials every 15 days, or about 15'000 vials a month!

That's a new deck every month! If there's an expansion every 3 months, you can build a luxury deck every expansion before even considering score rewards or pulls that could be described as decent!

THAT'S AMAZING ANON! THINK ABOUT IT. THINK ABOUT ALL THE DECKS YOU COULD BUILD!
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>tfw pluto possess one of your fairies
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>>160376852
Still, I am hesitant on dusting him though since he still sees some use if anything
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I know it was one of you who just spammed emotes as Vampy when surviving by 1hp. You're a faggot
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>>160377026
I'm thinking that it takes a fucking eternity of grind to get anywhere.
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>Limited Emotes per turn
Shit game
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>>160376881
>>160376943
>MOMposters are multiplying
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>>160377145
You can't really grind shit except for score rewards. It's waiting for login reward + dailies.
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>>160377042
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>>160377026
Just two more Cerbs and Howls and I'll have decks for 6 classes.
>>160377145
Mate, I made CSword, Mid-sword, Banner, Bats, Elves, Garuda haven and Face Dragon in about a month of play time without spending any money on the game
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will the new expansion make dirt rite good?
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>>160377026
>THAT'S AMAZING ANON! THINK ABOUT IT.
>THINK ABOUT IT.
>THINK
>DHINK
>DINK
>DING
>DING DONG DING DONG
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>Tfw game winning combo in the first 2 cards
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>>160377363
I still don't get how a deck with Remi, Master, Juno and Calamitous does fucking nothing in the meta.
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What's with this reddit tier translation?
I'm sure with that look she isn't the type to talk like that.
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>>160377491
Because the rest of the followers available are trash.
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>>160377491
Its mainly because of the need to have both earth rites and activators in hand to play earth rune effectively. Very often either of them becomes a brick if you dont have the other component

Well, if anything I foresee that maybe in the next expansion, Rune might get some sort of Prism Priestess that fetches earth rites instead
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>>160377491
Because other classes got better things. And you can't tutor anything beyond spellboost.
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>Play based Seraph Haven
>Queue into an elfslut and deny them out of having any board presence whatsoever the entire match by chaining board clear after board clear

Elves. Not even once.
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What's a great Bannerscrub list? I have been trying a couple and I'm not so much of a fan of the ones I made.
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>>160350061
>tfw you like how this card looks but can't justify putting it in your deck
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>>160377491
The 3PP slot is severely lacking.
Like the other anon said, something like Prism Priestess would be fantastic.
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Left or Right
Already have 2 Deathbrands
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>>160377491
Even though it fucks aggro decks when it sets up THE WALL, it can take too long to get it set up because of how unreliable it can be early game.
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This badass oldman any good?
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>>160377643
Also, imagine if rune had spellboost roach, or whirlwind/penguin were storm.
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>>160377651
Same, I'm loving the triple death sentence.
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>>160377491
Earth Rite is terribly inconsistent, that's the only problem with it. It has a good beatdown plan, you can outvalue control decks, and wall off aggro, but you're not only reliant on getting your cards but you're reliant on getting them in the right order.

A similar deck is Elana which has many of the same tools and is reliant on pieces, but can afford to miss them early and play recovery from turn 6 onward. Earth Rite doesn't have the luxury of coming back without hitting the fuel and the payoff.
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>>160377831
Its a great cannon to put on top of a wall. Unless the opponent has removal, as they always do.
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next expansion card reveals when? its literally out in a month


also, what craft (two prince of darkness on other page and I can get 300 dust in like 2 seconds)
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Lol, why does this card game censor words when naming our decks? Not like people are gonna see that shit. It wouldn't even allow me to use the word "Hell" when naming a PtP deck
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>>160377936
But even if he goes off once is it not worth it?
I think he's just not played because midrange/control rune does not exist.
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81196
private daily plz
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>>160378021
6 weeks.
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Rowen > Forte though
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>>160378078
its out the end of december, darkness card reveals started around this time, a little earlier I think.
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>>160378079
Someone explain this dork thing to me.
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>>160377923
I recently started using this semen demon and the 5 HP heal has been a life saver more than once.
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>>160378039
The closest thing to what you're describing is earthrite. His effect is pretty worth it, if your deck somehow has slots for it and aren't afraid of losing a little consistency which earthrite sorely needs.
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>>160378039
He's great if opponent doesn't evos, multiple storms, or removal.
You literally cannot play anything below 6 hp, because he'll shoot it.
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Getting bored, at what rank should I make a real deck?
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>>160378035
>tfw can't name my sword deck I AM THE BONE
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>>160378039

He's not played because he's complete fucking trash. Dust him.
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>>160378079
nobody has ever been more wrong
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>>160377491
because this shit happens
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>>160378228
just have fun, if you're bored of banner start playing something else even if you lose more.

i play dragon
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>>160378228

Any time you have the resources to make a new deck. I graduated from Banner to Shadow Aggro/Haven Storm and I'm trying to get shit together for Bats.
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>>160377078
Dragoncraft Satan deck runs two Satan's.
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>>160378228
Seraph is only three legends, and its the most fun I've had since I started playing.
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I'm one copy of Aurelia, Tsubaki, Olivia and Alexander away from completing my control deck.

Can't wait for the new expansion to make it all worthless.
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>>160378285
REACH
E
A
C
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>draft one of the better curves I've drafted lately
>brick 4 out of 5 games anyway (Andras showed up in my starting hand after mulligan three fucking times) and end up going 2-3
>after going 5-0 recently with a topheavy as fuck draft

My fucking luck, I swear to god. I should just draft Phoenix Roost and Dracomancer's Rites and let my luck reverse it into a 5-0 run next time.
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>>160378217
>>160378246
Why though?
5/6 do 5 damage to an enemy follower seems good enough to be run by itself.
Sure you can't control it so if you're against a bunch of tokens or don't have board control it's not great but he can really do work versus midrange and control.
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>have some shitty legends to burn
>not sure what deck to make because most of my legends and golds are shit
Maybe I should just make a gimmicky rune deck since I already have Calamitous, Arcane and Juno's.
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>>160378079
>no forte character
REEEEEEEEEEE
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>>160378537
Arena is bullshit, yestarday I won 4-1 with a dragon deck that only had dragonsong flute as a lego and today I lost 1-4 with Forest because I never drew any of my gamechangers between olivia, Cynthia and Tia.
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>>160378710
play bats or banner and kys
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What would the meta look like if they printed a neutral board wipe spell at 7PP?
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Is there a good deck that uses Lord Atomy? I pulled 2 today and I don't think I ever seen him used.
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>>160378591
Because he's less immediate value than many other cards.
Unless the opponent plays something expensive and you play erasmus for a free kill. Or you want to force heal to themis.
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Lets start my 5 wins run. Which pair is the best?
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>>160378913
Combine him with cheap followers with last words.
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>>160378926
Ops. pic is here
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>>160378842

Right because aggro needs to be even shittier.
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>>160378916
Yes that's the point?
He' like a fanfare nuke card with a good body.
It's just a bit more difficult to control.
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just got this fucking godlike roll, had 2 more shitty ones that I dusted but I'd like to know if olivia is worth keeping and if so what decks she's good in
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FUCK
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>>160378913
He's actually very common in AA and Masters aggro lists right now.
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>>160378913
I fought a guy once who kepting using spirit cycle, phantom howl and ghouls banquet to summon Atomy. Most of the time I had removal for it but you can bring it back with Ceridwen or Rise of the Dead.
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>>160379190
Right is much better. Lotf neve lives more than one turn for me.
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>>160378314
I really like the -idea- of Shadow but I'm repelled by the fact that Haven is popular and hard-counters it.
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>Fighting against a Bloodcraft deck
>Pretty much every card played has Urias stabbing himself in the dick
>Avoid hitting his leader's hp until he gets himself down to 10, then send a slight breeze over to kill him
Are non-Vampy/non-bat Bloodcraft players masochists? Why do they do this to themselves?
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>>160379175
woooow didn't attach the pic
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Is Midrange Dragon a good deck?
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>>160379190
Right obviously.
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I started tracking my ranked games in a spreadsheet.
I think I'm noticing a pattern.

Control Sword AA2
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>>160378079
Rowen's voice actor plays Forte.
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>>160379318
Some people like to pretend that Vengeance isn't a shit mechanic.

Personally I think it should be "Vengeance is active if you took damage in the last turn".
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>>160377042
>17 shadows
Tyrant is coming.
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>>160379473
Control Sword is the deck with literally the most difference in winrate between going 1st and 2nd
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We can all agree Rowen is just the worst, right?
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>>160379624
No, Latham takes that crown easily.
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>>160379529
Vengeance is actually my favorite mechanic but there's too much fucking reach in this game for it to be good. It should be reworked so that healing doesn't break vengeance as easily.
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Jeanne safe to dust?
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>miss lethal becuz you miss evolve mechanic

REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE I ALWAYS FORGET
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>try out seraph haven
>against what seems to be a dshift rune
>I play nothing for 8 turns, except a couple barrages to his face
>he just shuffles his cards for 8 turns
>drop seraph turn 8, win turn 9

so fun and interactive guys
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>>160379673
>>160379624
Selwyn and Garuda are tied for the worst. Garuda is so bad that most players don't even want to use him to replace the worst female leader. Latham's okay but Erika's top tier so he may as well not even exist.
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>>160379689
The new expansion might make her good.
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>>160378079
>Run into a Rowan playing Seabrand Budget Face
>I'm running the real deal with avatar and obliterate him with back to back Forte turn 5 and 6
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>>160379689
Don't liquefy any legendaries until after the next expansion is released
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>>160379725
You evolved into a Mini Soul Devil didn't you.
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>>160379889
I'm trying to play ramp now, and I just get destroyed by everything. Life sucks. Aggro just isn't fun but I can't win without it.
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>>160378913
Good aggro tech. Fun revival meme tech.
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>>160379324
>>160379175
Olivia is good in control sword and ramp dragon.
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>>160379689
Fairy Princess and Pluto are the only legendaries I wouldn't ever hesitate to vial.
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Okay I saved up 500 and bought Vania.
Now what do I spend my gold on?
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>>160379568
>tfw cant draw any Tyrants
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>>160379845
t. Someone who's never used Latham.
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>>160379845
Garuda is literally the most popular male alt leader.
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>>160379845
Garuda looks great and has a cool japanese voice though.

I'd much prefer him over the man who can't shut his mouth or Selwyn. Gandalf is underrated though.
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>>160379353
Please don't ignore me again
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>>160380073
I hate that they went with cartoon wizard instead of cool old guy.
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>turn 4
>I SEE YOUR WEAK SPOT
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>>160380073
YOU'RE ABOUT TO SEE EVERY SPELL IN THE BOOK!
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Started to play for like 30 minutes and this haven looks really op for me is impossible to counter this.

and the second player always wins i come from hsg btw we need rng to make this game more fun
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>>160380028
>49 shadow
jesus you might as well run ptp
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>>160379353
No. Dragon is Face or bust right now, they're probably the worst overall craft in the meta even account for Shadow's problems with Haven since Shadow has decent match ups otherwise.

Decks either run under slower dragon or they combo out at the same time you'd be spitting out fatties.
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>>160380276
I bet you like dicks too, faggit.
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>>160380276
Well, Haven is currently one of the best deck/leader.
>and the second player always wins
Git gud also git gud deck
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>>160380276
>I have 30 minutes experience let me tell you how to fix the game
fuck off retard
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>>160380276
Fuck your RNG, faggot. Go back to curvestone, heroes of overstatted minions-craft.
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>>160380025
More vanias.
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>>160380439
>>160380276
Haven is the best because sword aggro is the most popular deck in the game
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>>160380385
I'm more in to animals dicks wow wake up this fury thing in me
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>>160380276
You hit many points but
>no mention of art being bad
2/10 try again
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>>160380023
I would wait before next expansion before vialing Princess
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>>160379524
That's why he is good.
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>>160380371
Probably wouldnt have drawn it either
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>>160379353
>>160380379
That said you can easily run a midrange dragon deck into A at the least.
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>>160378035
Reminds me of how you couldn't say Honoka in Love Live School Idol Festival's EN version despite being µ's center poster girl since it includes "ho" after they patched in the dumbest word filter possible.

English adaptation teams are a bunch of third world monkeys that just have to facilitate basic support functions, so to protect the delicate sensitivities of the western audience from things like Satan, they just have a list of banned words that bleeds beyond name field, I guess.

That's probably why you can't interact with other players or send messages at all, because fuck dealing with social moderation. Given how people in Hearthstone are usually autistic spergs in "social interaction" when given the chance, I rather have no option beyond emotes than an inbox full of angry shitflinging in seven languages.
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>>160379898
Even beast master?
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>>160380635
I just can't imagine any sort of ridiculous situation where Fairy Princess in her current form could be good. 3 points below curve, no immediate payoff, potentially loses you a card.

People debate a lot about who the worst legendary is but she's the easiest pick for me. My only problem with Pluto is that a meta where you'd run him over Odin seems extremely unlikely, but I think it's a decent card otherwise. Fairy Princess in the absolute best imaginary situation would still require some other card to combo off of to see play, and even then she wouldn't make ground at 6PP.
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>>160379845
>Garuda
>Eris
>Bad
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>>160381019
>him
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>>160379524
I like Sugita, of course, but I just like Rowen as a character too. :)
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>>160381019
I always thought about Rosequeen + Princess but then noticed it's far easier to stack your fairies with cheaper followers. She really is fucking terrible.

And I still hesitate to lliquify them.
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>>160379792
You played a Dshift player who didn't draw the nuts. Congratulations.
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easy wins easy life

should I sandbag considering I have pretty much no other deck?
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>>160380937
The next expansion is going to be here relatively soon, so I wouldn't liquefy any legendaries or golds.
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>>160381375
Today is a weird day. Lots of shitters, I'm winning a lot more than i normally do.
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Rate my budget seraph deck
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I mean, you're playing banner, most of your games last >2 minutes. How upset could you be?
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Going 1st in take 2 is a guaranteed loss it feels like
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>>160380937
Beast Dominator actually sees some fringe play on the rare list now and again, and there're people who think she has potential. I mean, there're also a lot of people that think she's shit but there're legendaries no one defends.

I have no idea how she got the reputation she did because there're so many other legendaries that see zero use right now and just aren't very good in a vacuum.
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>>160381558
I feel like one of the reasons Sword is so popular in T2 is because it has a better chance at winning if it goes firs then other classes.
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What is the most reliable deck to smash forest's fucking face in with.
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>>160381780
If it's purgatory go seraph haven
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>>160381537
I don't know if this happens because the guy closed the window or because the server is shit.

There was a time when the guy won and soon after the last blow the screen froze. Somehow it said he got disconnected and I won.
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>>160381448
remove execution and put Dance of death.
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>>160381852
>Using DoD in a Seraph deck.
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>>160381412
How soon?
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>>160379792
>plays solitaire
>runs into other player playing solitaire
>game arbitrary awards points to one after a while

You only have yourself to blame.
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>>160381780
Which forest?
Dshift is a safe bet.
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>>160381852

I agree with

>>160381903
I'm never going to attack face anyway

This deck though. I can't believe anyone is losing to this
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>>160381673
Beast dominator reduces her own atk.

That's absolutely stupid.
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Need a Private win. 32954

Anyone wanna play with a shitty deck against my shitty deck for fun? Just concede when you have lethal.

Or give me a concede right away.
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>Thread drama happens
>Go to bed
>Wake up and see this thread again

Huh, so someone was diligent enough to keep bumping their thread from page 10 for 3 hours. Impressive.
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>>160381375
>Play for about a week
>Enjoy building shoddy decks with whatever I've got
>Suddenly C0 and full netdeck memes
>Crap like Dark Elf Forte and one Athena don't win games anymore
>Can't derank
>Can't wake up
Probably.
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I want to play with Cerberus!
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>Playing Shadowcraft against my natural enemy, Havencraft
>Enemy just played the 2 holyflame tiger amulet
>I'll just use execution on it so I don't get overwhelmed
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>>160381673
Because waifus attract more attention, whether good or bad.
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>>160382043
In particular I'm real sick of PTP.
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>>160381375
Bats is still good at A0. Don't know about any further though.
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don't forget to say hi :)

>>160382146

Also anyone tried the bawl?

And speaking of brawl, did they announce any new kind of brawl for SV? Other than take-two? The UI suggest that there will be eventually.
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So I recently picked up the game with the steam release, did all the stories and the resulting free arena runs. got a decent mix of legendaries but not enough to make a deck around, so i just went with the Banner deck since the only Golds/Lego it uses is Alwida's and have been having a pretty good time of it so far, apparently theres another expansion soon so id imagine a balance patch with it, will probably just stockpile vials until then and craft a T1 deck
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>>160382225
Dshift eats PtP for breakfast.
I don't think I've ever lost to one.

PtP is just too slow and Dshift goes off turn 8-9.
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>>160382150
Seems nobody is up, someone give me a concede.
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>>160382408
Goddamnit stop this shit, just leave /hsg/ alone so that they don't come here. /hsg/ refugees are the worst.
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>>160379898
Serious question though, did any existing legend get significantly better with expansion?
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>>160382454
okay?
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Lucky pack, Dire Bond is animated if it's not visible.
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>>160382498
Thanks mate.
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>>160382489
Thanks, I'll try to get good. I actually put together one a few days ago. How many practice runs do you think it takes to get acquainted with the deck?
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>>160382601
Every heaven one?
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>>160382559
Honestly, you guys are infinitely worse for bringing them here. It's not even funny, just annoying.
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>>160382680
It shouldn't take too long.
I'm pretty confident in playing it after a dozen runs or so.
Just remember to keep a Dshift in opening hand if you're not going versus aggro and otherwise mulligan for the right removal.
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>The look on Havenshitters' face when I drop two purtagories.
I live for this.

>>160381019
Doesn't she combo off really well with Altered Fate? 8 shadows + a full hand and still enough points left to troll people with a 2 drop. I agree though she should be 5pp OR have the fairies drawn be 0pp.
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>>160382601
Arguably Forte who went from build core to craft core, but that has less to do with Forte getting better and more to do with everything else getting worse.

>>160382752
Every Haven legendary sees less use now than they did before DE. Many Storm lists are even ditching moon rabbit now.
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>earth rite is my bad match up
>good thing no one plays it
>3 in a row

Fuck off you rune niggers, you are not even good
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> enjoying 15+ turn turtlefests

neck yourselves
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>>160382752
Only rabbit is used now.
And going by that logic, you shouldn't dust Pluto, but that's about it.
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>>160382884
If you're playing Fairy Princess into Altered Fate, whether on 6-7 or as a turn 8-10 play, something has gone terribly wrong and you've probably lost the game already.
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>>160382217
>playing rune against elf
>fills board and liza
>thats okay, fire chain isnt targeted

i made a huge mistake too senpai...
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>>160382884
>Cancer Elf Players
Wew

>>160382917
Forte was always craft core except in gimmick shit like Satan Dragon.
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>>160382940
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Why is Haven allowed to exist again?
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>>160383024
It worked once for me, got me that clutch 5 shadows I need against a rune deck. I'm still relatively new so I don't know the best way to maximize my shadow gains just yet.
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>>160383270
>Says a Haven player himself in an Elana mirror

What
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>>160383039
Fucking liza is so troll
Doesn't stop targeting at all, just stops the damage instead.
Doesn't stop hard removal though.
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>>160383275
To maximize shadow gains, you need to eat haunted oats and do spooky squats.
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>>160383270
You deserve this hell of your own making.
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AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
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>>160383270
>>
>>160383613

Epic
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>>160382940
>>earth rite is my bad match up
H-how?
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>>160383613
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path of purgatory nerf when?
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>>160383573
>DS

deserved it
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Rate my grind today in A2.
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>>160383716
REMOVE
ELF
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>>160383774
>implying the elanafag didn't deserve it
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>>160383573
Wait, shouldn't that be a win with 0 cards left in deck?

Drop 0-cost FD then D-shift, End turn, Draw card, attack with FD then use other D shift, end turn attack for win?
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>>160383684

Wards and removals can fuck up face decks
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Is it just me, or is playing Arena from 10 AM - 10 PM Japan time the worst? I've faced nothing but Masters players during that time.
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>>160383573
Dshift reduces Dshift you know
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>>160383785
I'm very sorry.
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I'm actually happy when someome beats me with a meme deck like death tyrant or rose queen but salty whenever I lose to a PtP Forest or Elana/Storm Haven

Something's wrong with me
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>>160384019
This girl brings out my inner S.
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>>160383998
he gave up so I won without having to attack. I would have won 5 turns ago but he kept playing temple defenders and my only removal left was fire chains.
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>>160384094

That's a normal reaction
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>mfw I try to play seraph haven and all I encounter are rune players with petrify
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>>160384178
>Playing Haven

You deserve it a little. Nowhere near as much as people who play Elana/Storm but still.
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LMAO Just finished a Take-Two run.

It may not be 5, but I'm pretty proud with the result. Only lost that one because of a really lousy sequence of draws.

What that one Japenese pro said is right, it mostly doesn't matter what craft you pick in T2
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>>160384094

the former means someone put some actual effort into deviating from the meta while the latter means someone beat you with a cookie cutter netdeck they put zero effort into
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New player here, 99% of all decks I see are aggro. When can I expect this cancer to end and encounter real oponents?

Just ranked to B and it's still aggro, aggro, aggro.
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>>160384249
I didn't ask for these dallies
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>>160384249
>switch to Elana
>play against rune players with petrify
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>>160384330

> wanting your games to last more than 7 turns

go do the world a favor and end yourself
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>>160384270
fuck blood tho
Vengeance is stupid and shit tier
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>>160384330
>When can I expect this cancer to end and encounter real oponents?

When they start adding bonuses for winning longer matches.

This way you have a Tug-of-war between saving time or getting more points/shit
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So I have a conflict that I need some guidance with.

I was saving up vials to build a ptp forestcraft deck. The only gold+ card I have for it right now is 1 ptp and I have 13k vials saved up so far.

Today, however. I pulled an Otohime and Im pretty sure that with the vials I have, I'd be able to make a complete Mid-Range Swordcraft deck.

Would it be worth making the mid-range sword or should I keep saving up for ptp? The only deck I have right now is Mid-range shadow and I wanted a deck that did well vs Havens to cover the weaknesses of my other deck, but I also wanted the deck to be fun to play while having a skill ceiling.
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>>160384506
When is the next big update/expansion anyway? What crafts are going to be nerfed/buffed?
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It's shit, right?
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>>160384673
it's shit all right
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>>160384625
why don't you just build the deck you actually want to play?

At the end of the day, you don't really get much of anything from winning matches aside from points. (outside of missions, of course)
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>>160384648
Expectations are the end of December. Haven's a likely target for nerfs, CyGames has expressed that they're watching it and people bitch about it enough. Forest is CyGame's pet craft so odds are decent that we'll see another 3 months of PtP still.
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>>160384673
At least that's decent for some vials. Come back when you get a pack equal to or better than this.
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>>160384868
>Forest is CyGame's pet craft

Is this true? I feel like Rune is also up there with how creative you can get with card plays.
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>>160385045
Forest is the most nerfed class and yet its still the most reliable class in general, you tell me anon

I suppose all the adverts and so featuring Arisa only reinforces that notion
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>>160384765
But I dont know which one I'd prefer playing, to be honest.
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>>160385146
>Forest is the most nerfed class and yet its still the most reliable class in general

Well, generally the aim of nerfing a class is not to cripple it into pure living shit. Otherwise, that would cause even -more- problems
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>>160385045
It's half a joke. Forest has been good for ages, Arisa is the game's mascot, and some interview outed it as the dev's favorite deck, which isn't a surprise because it's probably a lot more fun developing combo oriented cards than plopping down good stuff. It has been nerfed more than anyone else so far yet so they do give a shit, but none of the nerfs have ever stopped it so we'll see.

Rune's actually in a pretty bad spot as a craft. It's a necessary evil right now because as a control centric craft it stops a lot of other decks from getting out of hand, but it only really has one great deck and it's probably the most messily designed craft with how the card pool is split between two mechanics that mix poorly. I don't think it's really good enough to need nerfs but adjustments might be warranted since it's meta warping and has really skewered match ups. Whether they decide it's worth looking at is a toss up.
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>>160384673
>>160384729
>>160384917
we posting best single pack openings?
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>>160385384
>cripple
This remenber me a shitty team of five guys...
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>>160385301
If you haven't, maybe you should look at the different possible decks out there, and then decide which one actually looks like the most fun for you. It doesn't have to be super top-tier either, fun's the key.
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>>160384132
thats weird, this girl brings out my inner M
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>>160380276
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>Throw together suicide blood aggro deck for daily missions
>First match is someone else who did the same
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> he fell for the dshift meme

get fucked retard dshitter
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I'm loving this Shadowverse Channel thing.
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>>160386353

Is it translated?
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>>160377026
I get an average of 140 vials per pack, though.
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>>160386310
are banner players even self aware?
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>>160386310
>Tsubaki and swing in banner
I don't understand.
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>>160386638
No, they're not aware. Of anything really.
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>>160386697
Swing is a tech choice, but practically every netdeck banner uses a tsubaki
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>>160381558
Being a shitter helps too
>>
Storm is the biggest bullshit mechanic in this game
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>>160386697

what's wrong with tsubaki?

she benefits from the banner and allows me to cheese games like these where the retard dshitter is forced to pass turns because he has nothing to target
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>>160386525
Probably not? I don't really know.
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>>160386697
Why would you not run Tsubaki in banner? She gives you extra removal along with a near non interactable body and isn't a commander unlike the other premium Sword legos.

I think Swing's a bit slow for Banner though.
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>mfw trying to do dailies as dragon without forte and leveled up 10 times already with no win in sight
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>>160386803
I don't really see the point in Tsubaki, like the only thing it's good against is Elana haven and bad forest decks.
Dance of Death is superior against everyone else.
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>when Elana shitters don't realize what's happening until it's too late
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>>160387003
Tsubaki is a dance of death that does 4 damage minimum on the next turn.
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>>160386957
just won my first match when someone disconnected during mulligan. I DID IT
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>>160386939

> I think Swing's a bit slow for Banner though.

not slower than the vanguards I replaced it with
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>>160387003
Do you think people are running 3x Tsubaki instead of DoD or something?
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What is it with Dshift that triggers so many people?
It's just a win condition like any other combo out there.
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>>160387041

MOOOOOOOOOOOOOT
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>>160380000
well seeing as how control sword is wallet warrior exclusive and ramp dragon is like the worst deck you can make I guess I'm gonna dust her
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>>160386310
>triple banner
Is this even worth it?
Wouldn't you rather play 2 banners, and have room for 3 followers?
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>>160387003

I run both Tsubaki and DoD, what the fuck are you getting at with this argument?
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>>160387152
It allows for extremely favorable plays but it's pretty situational as a whole.
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>>160384094
You are salty when u lose to OP decks like Elana-Storm or bullshit like PtP Forest.

You enjoy the game playing versus decks like Tyrant-Rose queen even if u lose.

I dont see where is the wrong part
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>>160386310
>flame destroyers hit the field and you're not dead
Either that guy is not playing dshift or doesn't know how to.
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>>160387094
They take forever to end their turns
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>>160387094
It comes across as an uninteractive solitaire deck. There are actually plays to make against it, especially because Evolve forces them to play some minions, but for most new players (especially from hearthstone) it's just a very frustrating face race.
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>>160387094
Because people without storm get upset when they can't do shit under the right conditions.
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>>160387152
Every banner is a buff to your officer's on the field and top deck storm swings harder. It's worth it, you can't count on having so much as 1 follower out after turn 7 most games.
>>
What's the story behind Luna's mouse/rabbit plushie?
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>>160387094

>What is it with Dshift that triggers so many people?

Unless you get a shitload of storm out of your deck you can't do shit against it because they remove everything from your board the moment it pops out, all while boosting their dshift to rape your face on turn 7.

It's frustrating as fuck.
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Who like to do snek snek in the hero portraits?
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>>160387381
Its name is Luna
Luna "revived" her owner and her owner's parents
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>>160387094
They always take so long to end their turns, they only play removals and nothing else and they are very often shit

What triggers me is how everyone and their mom keeps ranking it as tier 1 in tier lists when it gets shit on by alot of decks both aggro and midrange
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>>160387332
But don't most people play face race decks anyway?
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>when they think you're only running seraph
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>>160387094
they dont know the flow of the deck, cant guess what the dshift player has in hand, so they complain about solitaire

or they just adhd aggro kids who wants their wins fast as possible...

sometimes when playing agains aggro i just deliberately wait out the turn timer to piss them off
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>>160387094
Because its the most unfun ass-clenching deck to play against
You have no idea if the Runefag has drawn his combo yet, so you it feels like you're on a timer similar to a Seraph deck.

I know DShift has a shitty winrate and all, but it just feels horrible to lose against it
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>>160387517

>M
>O
>M
>カメラ
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>>160384094
Because it's clear that you lost to skill, rather than being on the wrong side of game imbalance. It's always more fun to play against someone with skill, whether you win or lose.
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>>160387469
You're scaring me anon.
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>>160387469
Wait so Luna (Loli) is dead?
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>after having my t2 run fucked by aggro swordfags i decide against my better judgement to pick forest the next time
>swordfags nowhere to be found, get fucked as forest
>finally on the last two games they show up
>they both still play like they're the aggressive deck, ignoring trades and trying to kill me, despite me having a lower curve
AHAHAHAH GET FUCKED ONE TRICK PONY SHITTERS
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>>160387714
He's taking you for a ruse cruise anon.
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>>160387736
>Pick forest
>Draft Yuel
>Concedes everywhere
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>>160387517
You will draw Astaroth.
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>tfw you couldn't draw and of your Flame Destroyers and have to Dshift with 5 snow
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>>160387852
he conceded when he didn't have enough shadows next turn
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>>160387880
golly
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> Shadowverse
> no, the game is not about verses of shadow
> it's a play on the word shadow and universe
> like the shit nexus pulled you into

why am I so fucking retarded it's no wonder that after like 20 t2 runs my highest win streak is 3
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>>160387937
Shadow deck based on copying enemies when?
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>>160387462
what
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>>160387774
>>160387714
Yea, check out Shadowverse Corner
Luna's spot is taken by the doll
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is gabriel dust-tier
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>>160388031
That's cute anon, you can stop now.
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>>160388065
nope
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>>160388020
Try to do it.

When i start to do the snek snek my hearth become love
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>>160388065
She sees play in a top tier deck right now and fringe use in some t2 decks. Come on man.
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>>160388065
yep
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>>160386525
>being an EOP cuck
>>
>play this shitty game
>50% win rate on all decks
>based entirely on if i go first or second

Why did they decide to ruin their own game?
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Is there a bigger mismatch than a DShift Rune fighting against a Face Dragon?

Having Forte's spear tear into my ass for 7 damage out of no where is no fun
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>>160388280
Should have dropped them wards boy.
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>>160388280
Save your Ice Golems for just before his 7 hits
Drop 2 if you have to
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>>160387569
The most unfun is Haven, whatever is Elana-Storm-SeraphElana

You are aggro versus Dshift? Enjoy your free win if you are not absolutely retarded

You are midrange versus Dshift? Free win if you know a bit of how to play.

You are control? Even match and if you are Necro you will win with Phantom Howl-Cerberus combo easily.

Probably so many people cry about Dshift because a lot of people play Haven to get their braindead easy win, and Dshift is only good versus Haven, moslty Elana.

And no, Im not a Rune player, Dshift is so inconsistent for me so I would never play it unless if its just for fun.
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>>160388280
Remember that PtP forest and face dragon are ok.
Dshift isn't.
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In need of a concede
69506
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>>160388280
DShift vs Aggro Blood is even worse
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>>160388280
midrange dragon versus elana haven
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>>160388336
Run, luna!
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>The pleasure was all mine

What did she mean by this?
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>Darkness Evolved ticket from Take 2

is this a 5 win only thing or is this a new chance for any wins?
Got an animated Levi from it so can't complain
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Someone concede a private match for my quest please? ^_^ 41205.
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>>160388542
Until sometime on the 30th all take 2 reward tickets are DE.
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>>160388280
I think dshift vs elana haven is the most one-sided matchup in the game
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>>160388558
Maybe if you stop typing like a faggot I would.
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>>160388375
Dshift is the least fun to play against because they have no board which is the only part you can interact with.

It's as simple as that.
Also why lots of people hate haven because you can't interact with their amulets.
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>>160388606
x_x waow how rude :/
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>>160388065
seconding this, do decks run more than 1 Gabriel ever? I have 3 copies of her (one's animated)
>>
Is there something like a pity timer for legendaries for this game like hearthstone?
I guess it's technically less necessary since legendaries are more common.
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This card is the best noob bait ever
A Swordcraft guy killed it THREE (3) times wasting all his followers and spells
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>>160388687
Not as far as we know.
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>>160388515
Too late, bitch.
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>>160388107
>Urias calls her 娘-girl when they first meet
>only refers to her as You after "she" shows her powers and they fight
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>>160388712
Don't people fucking read the cards they don't know?
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>>160388336
I thought Rowen had a really tiny arm for a moment there.
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>>160388417
Pls I have no friends
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>>160388278
saved
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Concede please
55163
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>>160388192
in what deck, control sword?
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>>160388849
Midrange Sword.
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>>160388065
>>160388670

Some Forestcraft variant does run her sometimes in playset since they have all the Fairies to activate her. The same for selected few of shadowcraft.
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DEJA VU

I'VE JUST BEEN IN THIS concede please BEFORE

10275
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>>160388816
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>>160388712
I do that when i don't have a lethal and know I've lost.
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>>160388375
What about straight seraph? I feel like it's pretty fair.
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>>160388839
>>160388847
use another vm to run multiple clients and do it yourself if no one can help
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So winning streak is just "concealed" on A+ right?
I've been winning 150~160 points per match but when I lost about two games it went back to 100~110.
Guess the climb won't be as bad as I thought aside from fighting haven half my games.
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>>160388375
Shadowverse needs some cute traps so badly
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>lost to angel crusher in take 2 because i used siegfried the turn before
kill me
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>>160388670
She's a 7/7 broken down into a 3/4 body and a 4/3 buff. Because of her cost, she's usually played on a body that was on the board since last turn, which means she's a 3/4 nothing and a 4+x/3+y storm. Sounds like a slightly better Alwida's on paper, trading ward for +1/+1 on herself and +1+x/+1+y on the storm. However, requiring a body on board severely limits her usability, since opponents either go for board wipes or kill you faster than you can get Gabriel out. If you have nothing, Alwida can save your life or win on the spot. Topdecking Gabriel on an empty board, on the other hand, gets you at best a 5/6 with rush if you still have an evo point.
tl;dr she's usable but is usually not optimal. Storm Haven might see use of her, throwing the buff on a bird that popped that turn.
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>people with "x master" flairs in low AA
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>>160388336

>Urias smiling earnestly

Unf
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>>160388962
Thank you
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>>160389024

No, you just fought A2/A3 guys so you get more score
>>
78864 concede please!
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>>160388417
Thank you morde bro
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>>160389024
Uh, there is no winning streak on A rank

On the other hand the amount you lose or gain changes on your opponent

You get 100 at minimum but if your opponent has like 2-4k points beyond you, you get around 150. But if you lose, you lose less points
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>>160388847
Thank you kindly, anon.
>>160389020
Okay, thanks for the tip.
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>>160388336
>>160389176
They're smiling because they all want to die and that's why they're going to Luna
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>>160389195
>>160389212
Ah. It makes sense, well the climb won't take as much anyway, gotta take what you get.
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>>160389207
Np morde bro.
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32518
pls concede
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>That feel when you made a nearly impossible comeback again Haven.
>MFW i was only down to 1 hp and clutched out a victory. Thank you Swordcraft
>>
What happens if you cast two DShifts in the same turn?
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>>160389006
Your waifu's a doll anon
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>>160389396
That's dragon for I love you.
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>>160389456
you take 1 more turn
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>>160389396
Thanks nigga
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>>160389396
roar owo
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>>160389472
Wait a second. Dolls don't need to consent.

I am suddenly okay with your bullshit theory.
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>>160389109
kek
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Seraph Satan is unstoppable
In C2
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>>160388031
>Erika prefers the futon
That's kind of cute in a way.
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>When you're behind so many layers of warded zombies and wight kings that not even a D-shift runeshitter could kill you
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>A banner is a commander
???
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>Haven players has me on the ropes
>Activate DShift in a last ditch attempt to save myself, praying I draw something good
>Don't get what I need. Consider the match lost
>Haven player suddenly concedes before I could
wwew
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>>160389214
>kunkun shite kudasai!
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>>160390009
This annoys me to no end
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>>160390037
>stealing wins from havenshitters

you did good lad
>>
fucking up this guy in take two and then he gets that dark oliva bullshit card that gives you 3 evolve back. I mean he had second does he really need that card too fucking A
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>>160390009
>"Okay guys, we just need to get one man through and we've won this battle. What's the plan?"
>"Let's just charge in the direction of the banner."
>"OKAY I'M PUMPED LET'S DO IT. GO TEAM."
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>>160388336
>90% of /svg/ won't get this dank reference
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>>160390304
I don't get it, please explain.
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>>160390037
>Drop destroyer
>evolve it
>Drop Dshift and have no other Dshift left in hand
>enemy concedes
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>>160390227
You should always expect some big dick cards like that towards the end.
>>
Need help for private match daily.

ID: 20544
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>>160390365
Shadowverse Channel has a segment where the heroine trio draw random weird requests that the viewers send in.
During the last Shadowverse Channel someone requested "something else came out when Luna tries to summon her parents. What is it?" Isabelle drew Urias and Rowen with smiley faces shouting WAAAAI.
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>Build Shadow Urdecai meme
>Fun and good matchups against a lot of the field
>Straight loses all the time to storm haven.

I really wish priest of the cudgel destroyed instead of banished.
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>elite ai always play big ass taunt when i have lethal burst in hand
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>>160390845
But then he'd he a shittier Sledgehammer Exorcist
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>When the heart of the cards kicks in and you draw that exact card needed to turn everything around a turn too late
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Post your winrate.
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>>160390037
>play ranked
>get the worst possible hand after mulligan and first two draws
>considering just conceding
>other guy concedes first

What the hell kind of hand could rune have had to prompt this?
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>>160390953

Sledgehammer doesn't become a 4/5 after evolving, anon.
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>tfw midrange sword
>your opponent is top decking while you have a 8/7 Aurelia with resistance on the board
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>When you already won but you still want to see a concede

Haven is too fucking easy mode. Fuck this game.
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>>160391127
>this triggers the sandbag
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>>160380000
the fuck does control sord even look like?
you're running all the good legendaries in midrange anyway
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>>160391127

Site?
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>>160391127
Where can you see this?
>>
>>160391136
Sometimes I don't have anything <4 mana for the first three turns and if it's against an aggro deck it's an automatic loss. May as well save the time
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>>160391136
>Rune conceding against Forte leader Dragon player
He fears the storm
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>>160387498
Every deck is a face race, just certain decks (storm decks for example) make it more uninteractive.
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>>160391168
>MUM I WON EARTHRITE RUNE WITH HAVEN MUM!
>>
>/svg/
>decks
>talks of the game
>T2 opinions and such
>waifus

>/hsg/
>eceleb circle jerks

really makes ya think
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>>160391168
https://u.nya.is/qroixa.mp3
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>>160391136
3 Dshift
2 Destroyer
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>>160391353

There's a mode with a high stake. Of course, everyone is tasting the tears of ecelebs.
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>>160391353
how do you talk about decks in shamanstone when there's only 1 deck worth playing?
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Please concede. ID: 12047
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>>160391278
Wizards fear the dorks.
>>
>>160391542
OTOHIME-SAMA WO MAMORISHIMASU
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Is this a good start?
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>>160391542
Just like forest in forestverse :^)
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>>160391278
I do play a midrange storm deck.
Ramp and board control for first 5 turns.
And then smork once overflow hits
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>>160391729
its shit

kys weeb
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>>160391749
>he still loses to forest
please git gud b4 posting
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>Want to take my time through ranks to get decks ready for eventual high ranks
>Playing very little, but still playing to win so the winstreak means I'm climbing stupidly fast
>Hit B0
>Shadow dailies literally impossible now
I fucked up
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>>160391729
its good if you want to play seraph, which is a pretty strong deck right now
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Is this BM?
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>>160391729
Time to play a Seraph deck friend.
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>>160391309
>>160391431
Chill, salty fags. It's my first time playing Haven.

Tell me where Eris touched you.
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I need a hero. I'm holding out for a hero 'til the end of the night.
He's gotta be strong
And he's gotta be fast
And he's gotta be fresh from the fight.
I need a hero. I'm holding out for a hero 'til the morning light.
He's gotta be sure
And it's gotta be soon
concede or friendlies, doesn't bother me. I just need a win eventually.
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>>160391729
It's good assuming you did not get that many packs yet.
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It's that time again

49426
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>>160391927
>Tell me where Eris touched you.
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>>160391864
>he still loses to shamans
please git gud b4 posting
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>>160391892
>seraph haven BMs elana haven
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>>160391869
Just go to unranked anon, I'm in B3 and use budget aggro shadow for my shadow dailies and still clear them without too much of a fuss
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>>160392038
>playing shitstone
>projecting
off yourself
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>>160391950
Thank you!
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SHADOWVERSE CLASS SELECTION PERSONALITY TEST

Forest
>Meta-savvy pros who can recognize powerful & versatile interactions

Sword
>Straight-forward players who like to win without any cheap tricks

Rune
>Players who like to have fun at the expense of their opponent's time and mental state

Dragon
>Those who enjoy winning games as spectacularly as possible. Big spells, big followers, big damage.

Shadow
>Edgelords & /tg/-fags who like skeletons/necromancy

Blood
>Autism

Haven
>Literal retards & casuals who want cheap wins above all else.
>>
>>160391878
>>160391912
Ok

>>160391938
Just my starting packs
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>>160392172

I play sword but this list is biased as fuck.
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>>160392172
>/tg/-fags who like skeletons/necromancy
Its me! Where can i take my prize?
>>
>>160392172
Blood shitter detected.
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>>160391934
Thanks, Bro!
You are a true hero!
>>
>>160392172
>PERSONALITY TEST
back to facebook
>>
>>160392172
Forest
>Literal retards and casuals who have played enough to own a forest deck who want cheap wins above all else.
>>
>>160392172
Shadow and Blood mains can also include lolicons, please don't forget this.
>>
>>160392096

>尋常に

WHAT DOES IT MEANNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNN
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>>160392172
Don't hurt your arm too hard jerking yourself off Forestfag.
>>
>tfw you have a 26 damage fire chain and a 19 damage fire chain but your opponent keeps playing that 2/2 that takes 1 less damage from everything
>>
>>160392096
There are only so many Elana haven's I can stomach through with all my Hell Unleashers getting exiled before I snap and switch to Midrange Sword
And holy shit beating everyone so effortlessly makes me feel like shit, since they're probably in the same boat.
>>
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>>160392172
>sword
>no cheap tricks
i like sword because even if you get shit on by constant board clears you can still just cheat dudes on the field and get bullshit hand advantage between avant, medio, and conscription
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>i JUST NOW realized coco and mimi are supposed to represent cerberus' other two heads
>>
>want to skip fapping and get to bed early tonight
>stare a cute card for just a little too long
I fucked up
>>
>>160392172
I just play so I can see my waifu smile
>>
>>160392454

why are himeno mikan lolis so fucking retarded? god damn
>>
>>160392525
>fapping to still images of non-naked anime girls
you really fucked up
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>>160392172
>Literal retards & casuals who want cheap wins above all else.
That's pretty much forest.

Bad list.
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>>160392339
>Literal retards and casuals
I know you're salty at forest but it's the hardest class in the game. That's why it only really starts being a problem in AA and above. It's the anti-retard and casual class.
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Was the best Budget Deck?
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>>160392172
Forest faggot detected could you out yourself any harder?
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>>160392454
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>>160392535
Kids are fucking stupid.
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>>160392637
>thinking Forest is hard to play because it's the hardest

There's a big difference. This is still just a shitty casual mobage.
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>>160392424
>Maids fetch commanders to always have them available
>Avants fetch more fuel so you don't topdeck them and always have options to play
>Pompous fetches 1-drops so you don't top deck them
The amount of fetch in midrange sword is delicious
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>>160392618
anon that was just foreplay
And then you get hard and have to take care of it
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>>160392637

True, to play forest you need to

>know math

Such a hard class
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>>160392637
>why it only really starts being a problem in AA
Cuz it costs 40+k vials?
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>>160392363
"Extraordinarily"
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>>160392363
Shorthand for いざ尋常に勝負
It's something one says before a duel
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>>160392172
>play haven because battlepriests are cool and probably from catholic background
Nerf Haven into oblivion. See if I give a fuck. I played it pre-DE when it was arguably the worst class. Shits got cool flavor

most of the decks are fun though.
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>>160392172
You got me.
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>>160391353
isn't our thread faster as well?
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>>160392645
How budget?
Banner sword is the cheapest
You cvan put together a decent deck with just bronze and silver cards.
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>>160392637
It is not hard to play at all compared to any actual card game, its literally just a meme. It's the same shit as every other class you maximize damage and card draw. Sometimes you bounce one of your fanfare cars woop te fukin do
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>>160392808
No, because shitters fucking suck at it.
Have you ever seen Forest players in the low ranks? They're trash. Especially with PtP. You can't just pick up Forest and cruise to the high ranks like you can with Sprint Haven or Banner or Bats or whatever.
But I'm sure this is gonna get a hundered comments from people who have never played the decks talk about how it's easy and I'm a butthurt Forest player or whatever.
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>>160392172
perfect
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>>160392875
>not posting the version with the butt
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>>160392645
banner sword is a great budget deck. so is aggro bloodcraft.
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>>160392916
it has been since day one
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>>160392982
>Have you ever seen Forest players in the low ranks

No.

Everyone in B is playing banner or bats because it costs dirt to build
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>>160392982
>40k deck
>in low ranks
Gee.
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>>160393114
I'm just entering B rank as a Tempo / PtP / Tempo PtP forest fag

Yoroshiku !
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Nexuscraft ever?
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>>160392982
You are a butthurt forest player who thinks keeping the board full of 1/1s and bouncing fanfare cards to hand is some Olympic accomplishment.
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ALLAHU AKBAR
ALLAHU AKBAR
DEATH TO MATHEMATICIANS

This was so satisfying.
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>>160392947
I only have 1000 vials.

>>160393049
This?
https://shadowverse.gamepress.gg/deck/royal-banner-swordcraft-gamepress
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>>160393209
Have fun, I probably lost something around 5 games from B0 to B3, pure tempo though.
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>>160393209
ganbatte, weeb-san
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Skycraft when? I want to play as Djeeta
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i go 4-1 on take twos but cant beat the fucking final mission for runecraft FUCKKKKKKKKKKKK
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STEEL YOURSELF
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>>160392982
>100 comments
hello facebook
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I should really get the Garuda skin to spread freedom.
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>>160393478

m-mom?
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My dragons were bigger!
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>>160392982
>People think it's hard to play Forest.

I mean, if you just lay down cards blindly maybe. I'm not saying it's free wins but it's no more complicated than anything else in the game.
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>>160393114
Back before DE had all these budget aggro options people would build PtP Forest because it was the best deck in the game. And then they'd take it to ladder without understanding how to play it.
I don't think I ever lost to a Forest player below A rank. It's not an easy deck to play because you're juggling multiple gameplans and win conditions. The mistake a lot of people make is thinking it solely relies on PtP to win and the whole deck is just based on building a bunch of shadows and slamming PtP; these are the people who flocked to the deck and failed spectacularly with it.
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>>160393114
>>160393194
not him but I've seen lots of tempo/ptp forest with full decks in B. they usually take a long time to play each turn.

although once in a while you run into one who knows his shit and roach combos you perfectly without taking ages to calculate it.
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18812
Got a quest to win a private match, please help.
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Just played against Satan Dragon... it's a really weak deck
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>>160393297
Yes, you can replace Alwida's Command with Koga Kunoichi.
Also I replaced Vanguard with Ninja Trainee, cut one Oathless Knight for Avant Blader.
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>>160393646
GOLLY. Can you post evolved?
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>>160393589
>It's not an easy deck to play
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>>160393646
GOLLY
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>>160393571
>no more complicated than anything else in the game
>when storm haven exists

sure bud
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How embarrassing.
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>>160392172
>>Players who like to have fun
Yup, got me there.
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>>160393720
Forest is one of the hardest decks to play in the game

It doesn't stop it from being far too strong but it demands more from the player than most of the other decks
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>Turn 4 floral fencer
>Turn 6 floral fencer
>Turn 7 floral fencer
>Waiting for a response
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>>160393713
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>>160393675
Thank you, my man.
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>>160393832
Don't even bother replying anon
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>>160392172
>Sword
>Straight-forward players who like to win without any cheap tricks
Nope that's not me at all
>Players who like to have fun at the expense of their opponent's time and mental state

That's much closer, Control Sword is fucking agony to play against

Also Dragon's probably the limpest way to win out of all my decks, I either rush an early win or die
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>>160393843
Fair temposwing :^)
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MOMMMM!I DID IT!
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>>160393843
what's up with you losing if they do that?
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>>160393279
feels good doesn't it?
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>>160393314
EEEHHHHH

I lost more than that from C0 to C3

I'M WORRIED NOW

whats your deck (tempo one)?
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>>160394198
>Implying you're not just feeding him shadows for PtP
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>mfw my opponent pulls out PTP tyrant shadow

Japan time is scary
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>>160393853
kindly /r/-ing avant blader, artfriend
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>>160394294
I won that actually :T
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>>160393297
Yup, just follow >>160393695 if you don't have Alwida's. And like he mentioned Avant Blader is good for not running out of steam midgame. I prefer Kunoichi Trainee over Ninja Trainee though.

I would also cut Conscription and Whole-Souled Swing eventually, just my preference. You can add another Avant Blader, or Angelic Barrage x2 and Demonic Strike x2 (dual duty as face damage and removal).

Remember you usually want to close out games within turn 6 to 8. Banner sword isn't a lategame deck.
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>>160394302
Happened to me earlier today. I knew it was coming and could do nothing about it except hope that he wouldn't have the cards. Spooky scary as fuck.
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>tfw crushing shitty forest cancer players with my honoraburu Forte

Fuck off fairy shits man this shit is going to be fucking awful to play against when I reach people who actually know what they're doing
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>control sword mirror
>they draw leonidas
>I don't
wew
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>1hp left
>opponent 20 hp
>his board is full
>mine empty
>he doesn't have any ward
THERE WE GO
>0 cost fairy
>another one
>guess what, 0 cost fairy
>and another
RHINOCEROACH BABY
>Nature's Guidance
RHINOCEROACH AGAIN
>Come back here little Rhinoceroach
RHINOCEROACH !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Seriously it felt good and cheap at the same time
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>>160394391
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>>160394391
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>>160394691
>knew it was coming
Does every craft have a ptp deck now?
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I didn't meme hard enough guys I'm so mad.
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>>160394813
doesn't make sense for blood or sword
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>>160393853
THIS IS REAL SCARF WEATHER!
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>>160394520
I ran 2 Avant bladers and zero conscriptions but I kept pulling the avant bladers with maids turn 2/3.
It seemed to be like 80% chance of getting avant bladers over banner, even with a 2/3 blader to banner ratio.

So I just went with one blader and 1 conscription.

For the Kunoichi vs Ninja I just like hitting a 1 drop on turn one, especially if you're going first so you need 4-6 one drops.
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>>160394729
>Forte
>Honorable
I'm really glad Dragon fell out of popularity because it was one of the least enjoyable decks to play against in the entire game. I'm not happy they have an annoying aggro deck now though.
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>play atomy
>removal
>ceridwen evolve
>removal

being a skeleton is suffering
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>Japanese guy starts losing
>Drags his turns

Why is japan so pathetic, holy shit. Is his time so invaluable that he prefers to waste it on a game?
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>>160391353
Soon we will be as bad as them, just give it time.
Embrace this moment where /svg/ is still good.
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>>160394882
Blood and Sword can both generate tokens, Dragon (even with discard) and Haven probably have the hardest time making it work.
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>>160394762
Maximum rhino combo is 19dmg, no?
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>>160394882
I think you mean dragon.
It's pretty much impossible to get extra shadows as dragon.

At least sword and blood can dig in their deck and get tokens.
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>>160395004
Haven makes it work by using that shitty 1pp amulet that never dies.
I wonder if anyone still runs PtP Haven.
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What is the biggest meme deck in the game? Something most players wouldn't see coming. Bonus if it's actually good.
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>>160394890

Personally I'm thinking of just ditching the Avant Bladers altogether and replacing it for something else. Not a single time have I thought or said "boy, I sure am glad I pulled an Avant Blader out of my deck!".
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>>160394780
she's so pretty and happy!
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>>160395119
You're pretty and happy, anon.
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Based Dragonlady
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>>160395091
PtP Haven.
Absolutely no one will expect that shit nowadays. It's dogshit though.
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>>160395017
5+7+9

21 damage

but I had 4 0 cost fairies. that cost two evolutions and two Elven Princess Mage
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>>160395091
PtP blood. The first time I saw it I did a double take.
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>>160394771
where are all of these from?
do you have lucifer and/or odin?
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>>160395107
Yeah, even late game the damn thing is 5 mana.
I think conscription is just better. The only problem is that now maids draw shitty banners for you exclusively after you have one down already.
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>>160394225
I was just using the tempo list on gamepress
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>>160395091
PtP Blood. Blood has plenty of solid cycle, removal, and heals to reach the endgame of PtP. It's just kinda bad because it loses terribly to aggro decks with solid burn finishers such as Aggro Bats, but since people don't expect to have to apply pressure early to Blood, it sometimes memes around.
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A0 to A1 takes forever

I have a 71% winrate with one class and a 68% one with my other
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>>160395091
Non-forest ptp decks
Tyrant
Turn 2 atomeme, and meme legendary decks in general
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>>160395167
t-thanks
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i really like rowen, guys
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>>160394771
Never noticed she had teary eyes in her unevolved form.

Anyways, can I request a moonbunny and her evolved art?
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>>160395258
>>160395351
Couldn't you just throw some ptp in a bat deck?
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>>160394969
They literally always do this too

Especially in fucking arena where it's not like I chose the deck I got

>>160395091
I got fucking ruined by conjuring force Rune because I thought it was dshift and was playing against that
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>>160395259

>it's in the OP
>where are all of these from?

Every single time.
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>>160395462
forgot pic
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>>160395017
https://twitter.com/chunfkg/status/795677959176585216

kek
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>>160395351
>>160395490
Preying on match ups is a seriously underrated strategy.
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Hey, is this deck https://shadowverse.gamepress.gg/deck/budget-purgatory-forestcraft-gamewith good enough to get a few wins in ranked or casual? I need a cheap forest deck for dailies.
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>>160395636
what the actual fuck
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>>160395651
>Play as Vampy
>Use Vampy Sleeves
>Have 3 Vampy in deck
>It's actually a Control blood and not lolibat aggro
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>>160395636
Yeah for all those Phoenix Roost dragon decks that are all over the place these days
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>>160395252
You can get even more with 2 roaches.
4+6+8+9
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>>160395636
How come his ancient elf cost only 1
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>>160395636
AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
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>>160395790
Yes, easier the lower rank you are of course
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>>160395487
Most bat decks do run a lot of tokens, but you will need altered fate and a few others to get there.

I think its trail of light and MAYBE bellringer. Not 100% sure since I have only played against it, never piloted it.
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>>160395914
>>160395252
And if you have 3rd evolve and you can trade a fairy you can do
5+7+9+10
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>>160395983
The opponent is a goldfish with 3 of a card out that reduces the cost of all cards
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Elf Knight Cynthia is some serious bullshit

You get past the roaches, the elfs, the tias and then they just plop down that bullshit and a load of faires
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got a vania, lord of the flies and a forte today
https://youtu.be/h4UqMyldS7Q
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>>160395080

I was watching a stream of a dude using it the other day, and he meme'd over a few people with it in the master tier.

I wouldn't count on it, but having 3 of those deathless ward rabbits out on the field at any time, backed by banishes, hard removal, and token destroyers drawing out the game looked like the most annoying thing to play against.
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>>160395636
The durdle is real.
this must be what it felt like to play against my old Sidisi Whip Constellation deck when it gets firing.
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>>160393023
I-I wanna see the version with the butt
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>>160392875
>Draws a teenager
>Calls it a loli

I hate this meme. Fucking pedophiles.
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Hmm tough decision
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>>160396535
Kek
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>>160396535
Easy left.
Pluto's only good in specific situations and Cerb is super overrated (5pp 3/3? Seriously? Dumpster stats). Meanwhile, Spirit Cycle will let you get a ton of card advantage and Midnight Haunt can let you activate your necromancy cards in a pinch, and will also let you draft Deathly Tyrant with no fear, which is a really good card if you can make it work.
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>>160396535
Left and hope for a tyrant.
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Holy fuck and I got this on my last one. If I were to ever go 5-0 this would be it.

>>160396695
>>160396724
Can't tell if you're being ironic or not. Spirit cycle is okay at best and Midnight Haunt is a huge waste outside of even more specific conditions than Pluto would be.
And no there weren't any Tyrants.
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CLASS TIER LIST (updated)

PATRICIAN TIER
>Rune
>Shadow (up from honest)

HONEST TIER
>Blood
>Dragon

AUTISM TIER
>Sword
>Haven
>Forest (down from patrician)
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>>160396986
>blood
>honest
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>>160396986
>Dragon
>Honest
Dragon is one of the most dishonest classes in the entire game.
All you newfags who never experienced the Midrange Dragoncraft cancer, I swear.
>>
YURUSANAI
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>>160396986
So did you pick up Shadow and meet your first competent PtP Forest?
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>>160396986
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Garuda is such a degenerate card, I know it's not really the problem, it's the power creeped Ara, but I'm hoping they nerf it just out of principle. Aria, on the other hand, needs a nerf 100%. They don't have to gut it or anything, but just making it so you can't Dogma it next turn or for it to pop on curve with a Cudgel should be enough to make the class viable without returning it to pre DE status. It already has Elana, Seraph, and good new heals + cantrip. It has everything it needed for a good control deck without a power creeped degenerate amulet.

What really needs a fucking nerf in this game though is half of Forest's arsenal. A PtP nerf will just drive them to tempo faggotry, and a Tia nerf will just drive them back to pre DE PtP faggotry. They need stop dancing around the issue and hit Ancient Elf or roach, and I mean really hit, not an excuse of a nerf like "-1 stat point :^)".
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>>160396986
>Shadow
>Patrician
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>>160396986
What if you play dragon but not face
Or rather it's not face until you get into overflow to coax the opponent into a snafu and then you storm him in the balls every turn after.
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>>160396986
>>160397081
Seconding this. Just because Dragon is bad doesn't make it honest, it's less interactive than fucking OTK decks and every build is about avoiding your opponent as long as possible until you hit your wincon.
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>>160397115
roach needs to be removed from the game
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>>160397081
What's wrong with midrange dragon?
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>>160397253
The entire gameplan is ramping up and then playing a bunch of fat storm minions and hitting your opponent in the face with them. But hey if they have a ward up then all you have to do is play your turn 6-7 Fafnir instead, and if they don't have hard removal you just win on the spot! Nice!
It's basically Storm Haven for Timmy. It's fucking obnoxious to play against and I'm so glad it's not popular on ladder like it was pre DE where it was Tier 1 and fucking EVERYWHERE.
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>>160397115
stop being mad and bad

this isn't overwatch where tanks have no counters, you can counter the shit in this card game.
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>>160397115
I think Garuda is overrated. I mean he's good in his deck and I hate Storm Haven, but Garuda's far removed from what I hate most about it. In raw stats he's 3 points below curve and the burn on entry has killed me but he'd be harder to fit into decks with just amulet reduction at 6.

He's pushed, he's good, but I think it really ends there. He's a solid card that's not really worth noting beyond the deck he's in being swingy bullshit.
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>>160397115
You weren't around when non PtP fairy pre-darkness was shit.
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>tfw cute elf girls is one of your biggest fetishes and Forestcraft is t1
pic only half related
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>>160397345
>Playing a bunch of fat storm minions
>You can ward up and remove them
>Less interactive than OTK
>>
dshift is the most cancerous card in the game. prove me wrong
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>>160397345
At least it interacts with the board.
It doesn't just go face from turn one like haven.

What's the problem exactly?
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>>160396986
>>Forest (down from patrician)
No! They're patrician tier still.
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>>160397561
>You can ward up and remove them
Let's not start this old, tired argument, okay?
Suffice to say Midrange Dragon is a stupid deck and it was heavily disliked before DE. It makes me laugh now that people think it's an honest or okay class despite nothing about it changing.
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>>160397613
>Not Roach
>Not PtP
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>mfw playing against Haven.

That fucking bald priest is quickly becoming my most hated card, it could at least kill my dudes instead of just banishing them.
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>>160397515
>Like cute elf girls but Forestcraft's gameplay and aesthetics don't appeal to me.
No skin off of my back.

>>160397639
>It doesn't just go face from turn one like haven.
That's not how Haven plays at all.
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>>160397639
>At least it interacts with the board
That's a good one. Only until they start dropping Forte and Genesis, then they're basically just a big aggro deck.
Unless you think your opponent dropping a 5-7 attack storm every turn and hitting you in the face with it and doing nothing else is fun? And don't even try to bring up the ward argument, especially now that DoD and Siegfried exist.
Also can't be attacked is a really frustrating, unfun mechanic, just putting that out there.
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>>160397435
Like I said, he's just a degenerate card from a design stand point, he's not really all that powerful otherwise. He's a lot worse than pre nerf Cursed Soldier, and I doubt he'll even see play once Aria gets hit.

>>160397378
>I've only played this game for the 2 days it got steam release, now here's my butthurt opinion I'm carrying from another game about why you're wrong

>>160397490
Silver Bolt Elf was rank 1 masters newfag kun, and that's before they had Liza, Tia, and Cynthia. Tempo Elf is now as powerful as PtP Elf, if not more so, to the point that every PtP runs Tia now.
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>>160397664
You can kill them with faster decks by punishing them while they try to ramp.
It can lose to decks that out value them like elana.
It's just good against heavy control and combo.

I'm sorry that you only want to play solitaire and spam removal all game.
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>>160397764
JAKUTEN
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>>160397515
I want Arisa to punish me with fairies!
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>>160397904
No one is claiming it's strong or overpowered.
I'm just saying it's fucking stupidly designed and not even close to honorable.
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Don't reply to it, it's clearly baiting now that it has revealed false information
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>>160396986
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>>160397784
That's how storm haven works
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>>160397904
>>160397253
Quit replying to bait
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>>160397856
If they are removing your wards they are not playing fat storm minions.
They have no healing, you can race them.

The can't be attacked thing is bullshit but I don't rely on it at all.
Only Forte in my list has it and I expect her to be removed after getting played anyways.
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>>160398142
>Bait
Oh fuck off dragonfag.
I love how easy it is to tell who's new to the game.
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>>160397982
N-NANI?
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> can't talk to your friends

WHAT FRESH HELL IS THIS
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>>160398042
No it isn't, Storm Haven is most active in turns 4-7. If you just blow someone out in 5 turns it's because you opened the nuts and they did nothing to stop you.
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>>160397874
Look at masters you dumb fuck

The top person is never playing forest or haven, they're always playing a counter to them

But I guess you know more right
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>>160398280
It's the same shitposter from before /svg/ was made, haven't you seen the pattern by now?
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>>160398241
>Storm Haven is most active in turns 4-7
When their amulets pop and they go face?

Yeah that's just going face.
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Need some help with a quest. Thanks in advance. 80591
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>>160398280
Not him, but the first week or so of this month was a Forest player.
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>>160398280
That's not how debate works champ. All you're doing is stating your trash opinion over and over, calling people new, and then calling their opinion shit. It's a fact that Silver Bolt Elf was rank 1 masters pre DE, and you could check that out yourself. The current rank 1 masters playing an Elf counter changes nothing. You explicitly stated "none PtP fairy was shit pre DE" and you got proven wrong, why are you still shitposting?

You people will go to any lengths to convince yourself you're not playing the most overpowered deck in the game's history, the only one to be nerfed twice in a row and retain tier 1 for months and months on end.
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>>160398389
Are you seriously blaming dragonfag for this?
I thought we put the boogeyman hunting days behind us
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>>160398436
Their amulets take multiple turns or extra mana and cards to pop. Storm Haven is generally not very productive in the first three turns. Again if you beat someone in 5 turns with Storm Haven it's because you opened well and the opponent did literally nothing to stop you.
>This dinky falcon hit me in the face
Most decks are going to hit you in the face if you have no on-board threats worth trading with, this isn't unique to Storm haven.
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>>160398573
...there's like three people arguing against you, stop pretending it's one

I was replying to this
>I've only played this game for the 2 days it got steam release, now here's my butthurt opinion I'm carrying from another game about why you're wrong
Your pathetic response to a poster pointing out that Elf has hard counters

You literally call people new there and then have the fucking audacity to post
>All you're doing is stating your trash opinion over and over, calling people new, and then calling their opinion shit
In response to a post THAT DOESN'T EVEN MENTION HOW LONG YOU'VE PLAYED THE GAME FOR
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>>160398616
I don't think you understand.
When you have the initiative you either make favorable trades to get value or hit the other guy in the face to put him on the clock.

Storm heaven almost exclusively does the latter, hence it's a face deck.

Midrange dragon does the former until late game at which point they switch to the latter.
Which is something almost all deck do, >>160397856 this guy is just mad at how fat the storm minions they get are.
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So is Robin Hood friends with the Elves, or do the Elves just put up with him?
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>>160397784
>That image
Reminds me of when I tried to build a deck around that card. Good times
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>>160398937
Anon, Midrange Dragon does not only hit face when they're ahead. Their entire gameplan is based on dropping storm minions and hitting face as long as they aren't about to die or there's no ward. There's a difference between pushing for damage when you're ahead and having your entire deck based on storming people in the face whenever possible. Midrange Dragon basically has a face deck gameplan in the mid to late game.
Do you know how many times Forte or Genesis Dragon trade? Basically never. Dragon just lols as they drop a big storm, hit for a third of your health, and make you clean up afterwards, because if you just ignore you know for a fact they're gonna hit you in the face again.
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>>160398989
Well they can't very well attack him, you know?
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>>160398804
>I'm not the same person I swear!
Yes, it's only a coincidence that each and every post made in your style of typing avoidings addressing any fucking point that has facts in it, nor actually provides facts of its own.

The 2 responses that actually disagreed with my original post both had the argument of "lol mad bad it has counters" and "you're new none PtP fairy was bad pre DE". I explicity proved the retard arguing I wasn't here pre DE wrong, and dismissed the "just git gud! The consistent best class in the game after 2 nerfs is completely fine" retard's argument as one should, because git gud isn't an argument.

Now which one of these retards are you? You still have to actually state a single fact or refute one by the way, so this will be the last (you) you'll get.
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newb question.

When I'm rolling my initial 10 standard packs and 25 darkness packs, I'm aiming for 7+ legendaries with at least 2 good ones in one craft right?
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what if you could evolve your spells
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>>160399242
Forte and genesis dragon are not midgame.
That's endgame anon.

It's your fault you sat most of the game on your hands and let them take board advantage and mana advantage and your plan of "Ill just remove his fatties when they hit the board" turns out to have a few glaring, dragon-sized holes in it.
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How do I make a seraph deck?
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>>160399337
Yeah, at least 5

Animated ones and more good ones from the same class means you can settle for less than 7 but otherwise yeah

It's the difference between having a deck day 1 and your first deck on day 20
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>>160398601
Dragonfag, Bloodfag, MOMfag, the boogeymen will never go away as long as there's brain dead tier 1 classes to defend. Also, dragonfag just complained about Otomeme, how the fuck is that related to Forest at all?
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>>160399337
Only if you're neurotic. You can get by even if you pull complete shit, if you get a single legendary that you can make good use of and 3 or 4 trash pulls you're in a good spot. Waiting for two Fortes or whatever is ramming your face against RNG until it comes out your way which could take hours.
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>Reroll on emulator for the fuck of it
>Get a full playset of Pascale

Well shit.
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Help with private match and conside please
27460
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>>160399406
>make a haven deck
>type seraph into the filter
>put everything that shows up in the deck
>type subtract into the filter
>put everything that shows up in the deck
>fill the rest with whatever you want

that's pretty much it anon
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>Haven hated by everyone
>Shadow is the underdog
>People vocally defending Dragoncraft
Post DE Shadowverse is such a bizarre world. At least Forest will always be there to be the constant cancer for everyone to hate on.
>>160399401
>Forte
>Endgame
Not that anon but come on now, Forte is 6 mana and if you're playing a ramp strategy it's not uncommon to get her out around turn 4-5. A very common midgame Dragon play is dropping Forte, evolving, and hitting for 7.
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>>160399681
Oh, so I just stick it in a regular Haven deck?
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I've got Elana Haven, Aggro Bat, and DShift built

What deck should I try and make next?
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>>160399589
Nice dust
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>>160399719
Just be yourself desu
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>>160399406
Do you want the pure Seraph experience or the filthy Elana/Seraph hybrid?
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>>160399609
Thank you my fellow Vaniafag.
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>>160399689
Don't worry, Shadowfags will return with their turn 6 lethal cancer once Haven gets nerfed, and I'm sure even the Steam newfags will start picking up on the Forest cancer once it goes yet another fucking meta as tier 1 in a row.
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>>160399790
idk, all I have for haven are a couple of seraphs and garudas
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i did it, finally collected all the waifus

F2P BTW
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>Fight Sword as Shadow in Arena
>They go 2nd and drop Floral Fencer on curve.
>And then follow it up with Assault Commander.
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>>160399839
Well this page has links to both so you can pick and choose https://shadowverse.gamepress.gg/deck-archetype/seraph-havencraft
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>>160399885
Did you craft any you didn't have?
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How big is the gap between B2-3 and A0?

I don't think i can stop myself from climbing.
Even my shitty shadow deck gets wins.
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>>160399885
Good job, anon!

Have a cool tiger!
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>>160399689
>turn 4 forte
If you get both oracle and aiela and they kill her for you sure.
And then they can just kill the forte with anything because you don't have overflow.

So you spent 10 mana and an evolve point to do 7 damage.
Are you going to say genesis is not end game as well?

It's easy to miss your oracles and have them leave aiela up a turn so you get almost no ramp.
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>>160399681
>type seraph into the filter
>put everything that shows up in the deck
>that's pretty much it anon
Should I really run 3 Seraphs? I kind of doubt that's a favourable ratio.
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Please help

43897
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>>160400076
Pure Seraph runs 3, hybird runs 2.
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>>160400056
A raw Forte on turn 6 is still a midgame play.
Genesis is the endgame storm, and Forte is the midgame storm.
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>>160399714
Basically. Just put in more draw cards and make sure you have taunts.
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>>160400143
I want to raw Forte.
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When is the new expansion la?
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>>160400112
Thanks Vampy
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>>160399885
>olivia and forte are starred

a man of fine taste
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>>160400143
Yes but I would never do that because you just lose on the board and they will have 13 health left and taunt and/or heals.
I don't start going face until later.
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>Unpack 3 Queen Vampires and 3 Temptress Vampires
When will non-Aggro Blood stop being a meme
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>>160400419
Just tech in odin and wards, my dude
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>>160400390
>He was a dragon player this whole time
Of course, of course.
Out of curiosity, how long have you been playing? I'm not gonna call you a shitter or anything, I just want to know. I'm done arguing anyway.
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>>160400419
its underrated right now IMO. I think control blood is still pretty good. This is my list right now.
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>>160394520
So get rid of Conscription x2 and Whole-Souled Swing x2 for Angelic Barrage x2 and Demonic Strike x2?
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>>160400419
>B-Bloody Mary will save control fucking Bloodfag s-shut up!
Today I will remind them.
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>lose an arena match due to auto-assuming how much the stats of a follower changes upon evolution.

I want to break something REALLY REALLY BADLY.
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>>160400490
Not long, about 2 weeks now.
Also I never denied being a dragon player?

It's the only deck I got enough cards to make that wasn't banner meme or bat blood.
Or storm heaven.
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Accept this
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>>160400496
I really want to make a control Blood deck but it's so goddamn expensive!
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>>160400204
Next OP needs to mention that we're expecting an expansion late December.
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Ok so i have an almost ready to go midrange sword deck, but i only have one Otohime and one Aurelia (but 3 Tsubaki), and enough vials to create 2 legendaries. Should i wait until i get them from a pack or enough vials to build 4 legendaries? Should i craft 2 Otohimes? Two Aurelias? One Aurelia and one Otohime? Or should i just be myself?
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>>160400660
No one would want to accept a gift from such a dork
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>>160400625
>About 2 weeks
I can't believe things have changed so much that I feel like an oldfag for a 4 month old game.
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>>160400496
>Righteous Devil
Eh, seems kinda situational
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I recently pulled two of these.

They are pretty fun to play, especially on turn 6.
That is all.
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>Elf activates PtP
>has 2 hp
>i drop rabbit necromancer

Kekekeke.
Had a storm mummy to finish him but i figured i wanted to be extra insulting.
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>>160400137
Shouldn't you just run 2, and then 3 of the amulet searchers?
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>>160400273
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>>160400996

And then they play that lion asshole and fuck you in the ass.
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>>160400781
Just make one Aurelia and one Otohime. 3 Otohime is overrated honestly. Most of the time I play midrange I only use 2.
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>>160400496
What are the common matchups PtP/both havens/dshift/aggro like?
How high on the ladder you are with the deck?
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Can her overpowered decks beat the dick?
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>>160401013
For pure Seraph you want 3 of both because it's the only way you'll win and you want to draw it by turn 8. Having 3 increases the consistency.
For Elana Seraph you win with fat elana buffed minions so it's less of a concern.
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How the FUCK are you supposed to fight Earth Rite Rune as Face Dragon? Nothing I do seems to work, nothing prevents my cards from being banished the moment I play them,.
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>>160400496
It's supremely dependent on getting the dire bond early

Lacks a hard win condition at 8 too unlike seraph. It's just completely outclassed right now

Though maybe it could have a chance against dshift if you draw like a damn aggro deck
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>>160401176
The top dragon player says that it's an impossible matchup
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>>160401176
You don't, you just lose.
Get fucked aggro scum.
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>play unranked
>matched with AA level Sword deck with Maid to Kill flair
>spends 30 seconds thinking about mulligan
Are you serious, my guy? I am just trying to do dailies on shitty Shadow deck.
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>>160401176

It's unwinnable, son.
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>>160401128
Can't beat the dick man. Nope.
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>>160401058
Already killed two lions and made him use his bounces including homecoming.
He'd need an absolute top draw to get another homecoming and I'd be fine with that.
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>>160401142
For hybrid, seraph is only there against PtP forest and non-storm haven mirrors. The healing is very good for keeping you alive for seraph. I'd say I win more games with seraph than I do with elana with the hybrid deck.

This may change as the deck gets more popular and people start adding ways to remove amulets.
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>>160400879
I miss people complaining about SATAN Guardian sun and Genesis dragon
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>>160401142
I have 3, but I only put 2 in my decks. Because when I had 3 I almost always pulled 2, or even 3 of them in a game. Which is really detrimental, because even if it's my only win condition. I still need to protect myself in addition to boosting the Seraph to be quick resolve quickly enough for me to win.

But if my hand is full of nothing but Seraphs, I'll be unlikely to see that goal through to completion.
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>>160401236
Well, fuck. Time to build a bannermemes deck.

>>160401258
Face decks are the most noble and honorable of all. No gimmicks, just damage.
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>>160401395
>Homecoming
>In this day and age
You must have been fighting a shitty player
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>>160390832
The radios are so good. Next BluRaji for sure.
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>>160401468
Anon....
All aggro decks lose to earth rite. It's a deck full of cheap, strong wards with access to decent healing, banish effects, and a great board wipe. Though it would be hilarious seeing you get your banner petrified.
Also,
>Face decks
>Honorable
Whatever helps you sleep at night.
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>>160401485
Doesn't make rabbit necromancer any less funny.

I fucking love last word mechanics.
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>>160401468
Note that the top dragon player is also the top masters level player.

And you probably won't see your counter much unless Dragon becomes the new haven because Earthrite is really weak right now
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>>160401128
>>160401363
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Is it correct to keep tyrant in the hand vs d-shift or should I focus on cycle and shadow generation?
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wew
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>Haven vs Haven
>All five evolution points in the game used on SEEING SOMEONE'S WEAKNESS.

MAKE IT STOP GOD MAKE IT STOP.
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>faggots playing full cancer in unranked when I'm just trying to get 1 win with a shitty non meta elf deck I don't even want to play
third bomb where?
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>>160403001

YOUR EVIL DEEDS END NO-

I SEE YOUR WEAKNESS
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>>160403001
>>160403738
WHAT IN THE-
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>havencraft player fails to connect
thank you kami
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