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Dragonslayer edition

>Regulation v1.22 patchnotes - Nov. 11th
>http://steamcommunity.com/games/374320/announcements/detail/366309728590281257

>Character Planner
https://www.mugenmonkey.com/

>DARK SOULS 3
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1u8Mak1goSv4g73g16XsWV4sJelDQUatWkP2kcO6GVAA/pub

>DARK SOULS 2
http://pastebin.com/CAx8Yc8v

>DARK SOULS
http://pastebin.com/eNY3su63

>DEMON'S SOULS
http://pastebin.com/RjpF5s7a

>BLOODBORNE
http://pastebin.com/WdLBWD8n

>KING'S FIELD
http://pastebin.com/G8zw0sc3

>Community & Fanart
http://pastebin.com/vVWz9pJm

Became a scalie >>160313383
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first for your late faggot, use the catalog
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Second for eggs are food and not ingredients
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>>160338368
Any food can be an ingredient
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4th for Gwyndolin

>>>/r/14962600
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POST DLC2 PREDICTIONS
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>>160338468
Mediocre
/dsg/ regards it as literally hitler
Everyone buys it anyways
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>>160338468
More Londor trash and every other plotlines dropped
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>>160338368
Eggs are not food
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HUMAN
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>>160338468
More BB assets
One boss will borrow from Loran Darkbeast and have a camera angle that makes NK Phase 1's camera seem perfectly fine
Final boss will rip right from Orphan and have an autistic moveset that punishes just about everything except summoning
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>>160338651
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>>160338468
Literally nothing on the serpents or Aldia
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>>160338727
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>>160338447
>>160338631
But you literally eat eggs. They are a food
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>>160338468
it will delve deeper into the story of londor, the connections to the abyss, carthus and the angels
jk, it will add 2 arena maps and a short corridor with a boss in the end
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>>160338889
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>>160338213
Tell me /dsg/, in demon's souls, whats a good place to pvp and what SL range is best for it?
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>>160338468
more rags as fashion
generic boring moveset weapons
more questions asked than answered
series ended on a low note
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>>160339053
4-1 at 120, but it's a pretty dead game. Don't expect to run in to too many people these days.
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>>160339053
Shrine of Storms first level right when you spawn in.

>>160338970
Triggered.
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Use this thread, ignore Luci's thread
Ignore his posts
It will go away when you stop giving it attention
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>>160339053
Wait until next years Return to the Nexus event
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Where do i get the full DaS2 Design Works?
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>>160339431
>that webm
Shit, that was such a long time ago now
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>>160338929
They're ingredients, not food
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Post more new webms.
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>>160338468

>>160339482
Good times
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>>160339431

https://mega.nz/#!GFMCVBCK!xbszjII1Xd6hEqLeAOiEBYlwKgzrsQyJIFb4lLfcXX0
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The idea of a maiden slowly mutating into a Pisacha and crying makes me feel funny in a bad plae
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>>160339563
Thanks man

>>160339527
>That second stab
What the fuck?
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>>160339527
here you go

>>160339264
Yeah, it's worked so well these past 5 years. I'm sure if you keep shit posting about it, it will eventually work.
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>update drivers because old drivers were causing artifacting on youtube videos and it was starting to get annoying
>now Dark Souls III runs like ass
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>>160339141
>>160339232
>>160339315
Best SL encounter?
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>>160339638
just the usual range for the GFS

broken as fuck weapon
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Is a mundane run possible in DaS2

Or am I forced to become a Pyromancer until I get the right stats
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>>160338468
The final boss will be a Dark-equivalent to Soul of Cinder and have inside it all the protagonists that chose to become a Dark Lord instead of linking the fire. The boss will be a mix of Manus and Orphan of Kos gameplay-wise.

The area of the DLC2 will be a dark city of Hollows and the other sister of Yuria will be the first DLC boss. As weapon, she'll wield a weapon reminiscent of the bowblade from BB.
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>>160339638
>>160339681

It's miyazaki netcode actually, unfortunately I posted this in the thread that shall not be named so I can't post it again:
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>>160339653
Remove your tripcode.
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POST

ANIME

STANCE
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>>160339743

Or I guess I can nvm lol, mods=gods etc
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>>160339805
Does backstep has no iframes in 3? Never seems to work when I try
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>>160339638
GFS is pretty much the new washing pole as far as meme range goes
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So how do you actually beat a decent washing pole player? Seems like no mater what you do they just outspace you poke you to death.

What the fuck FROM?
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>mods removed luci's thread
Not even hotpockets likes you, when will you take the hint and fuck off forever, or at least lose the tripcode
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The painter girl is cute! CUTE!
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>>160339860

I don't think they have. I have tried it myself and couldn't do it.
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>>160339943

Equip a 100% physical block shield.
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>>160339943

Any decent shield.
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>>160339315
World Tendency is such a retardedly made cool concept. It gives you replay value but fucks up if you're online so it basically killed the already non-existent multiplayer Demon's Souls had after most people moved to next-gen or pc.
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How many bugs/glitches have you accidentally run into in DaS3?
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>>160340109
I really don't give a shit except for how it ruins old monk.
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AY YO GUYS I THINK MIYAZAKI HAS A NECK FETISH
WHAT THE ACTUAL FUCK DID DARK SOULS 3 DO TO ALL THE ARMOR SETS HOLY SHIT
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anyone else disconnecting a lot to day? not on purpose mind you, i'm getting thrown out by the game
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What was Seath's plan, going forward? Just ride out the age of Dark while being literally immortal? The fading of the First Flame only barely has any effect on him, right?
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>>160340205
I've only experienced these 2 personally, iirc
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>>160338368
ck pls go
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>>160338631
Eggs are literally the best food after mother's milk
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>>160340265
how was seathe mortal if death didn't exist before the first flame
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>>160340310
No, you just met Maldron's descendant.
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>>160340456
Well...

I mean-

You see-

...Damn. Good question.
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>>160340205

I don't think I can remember everything

>areas not loading properly
>various graphical glitches
>enemies falling through the ground
>parrying removing your hitbox
>teleporting dogs
>invisible/invulnerable phantoms
>t-pose bosses
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>in DaS2 your character holds katanas and thrusting swords like you hold swords in Demon's Souls
Never noticed that. Kinda neat detail.
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>>160340205
Oh wait, i fucking forgot some
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>>160340205
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>>160340023
>>160340082
You say that like it's easy but you need a shield with a lot stability or you'll get guard broken.

Also what do you do if they use carthus rouge or the lightning buff?
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>>160340494
No scales means no immortality.

Also Seath is one half of a god from another universe, so maybe he just popped in to fuck over another setting with his divine antics like he did to Verdite.
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>>160340456
Maybe he was born in the time between the first flame and Gwyn's attack?
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>>160340205
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>>160340616

If you get guardbroken by a katana you're doing something VERY wrong.
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>>160340643
>No scales means no immortality.
But who cares when there's no death.
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>>160340601
>Skeleton rave ball
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>>160340708
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>>160340601
This is rad as fuck
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>>160340616
you're supposed to use the shield to block the running attacks, not stand there eating r1 spam like a noob.
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>>160340718
Okay cool so washing pole is totally balanced then. I'm just doing something totally wrong. Good to know.
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>>160340814
>Stop clapping motherfucker
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>>160340258
no one? fuck my fucking ISP then dude
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>>160339550
Honestly I wouldn't mind if an extra boss was just an NPC that switches through all the cancerous metas through the games.
>phase one is cursed DBS and 2kat
>phase two is chain mom that constantly tries to go for backstabs
>phase three is a havelmonster who buffs upwards to 7 times throughout the fight
>phase four is aman in rags using a weapon similar to the beasthunter's saif and a prepatch arcane rifle spear
>phase five is CCS and ceastus in the left hand, but by this point he's barely limping, leading to an easy victory
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>>160340936
how come every time i connect through my own router i get tons of disconnects but through my ISP's modem i never get them, does anyone know what setting could be causing this?
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How do you get the PS4 icons on the PC version of DaS3? also are there any other mods worth getting before i start?
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>>160340917

nigga

you literally

LITERALLY

>>>>>>>>>>LITERALLY<<<<<<<<<<<<<<

hold L1 with a shield and walk up to him
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>>160341125
your router is shitting itself
how many devices are connected to it?
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>>160339431
This is my life now
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>>160340917
>washing
>pole

Pick balance desu
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>>160341110
LIKE SOUL OF CINDER????????????????????????
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>>160340205
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>>160341110
Instead of one boss, maybe have an npc battle gauntlet like that in an optional area.
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>>160340205

Playing on PS4.

Haven't run into a single glitch ever in 600+ playtime, except once it took a few seconds for a wall to load in because I raced through an area. Maybe once an enemy fell through the floor after I killed it, can't really remember.
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>>160341159
>beating arguably the most OP weapon in the game is as simple as holding L1

You're so full of shit. Stop posting please.
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>>160341214
two PCs and two consoles, and two mobile phones
but the only active/powered on devices are my PC and the mobiles
so I need a better router then?
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>>160341159
That's not beating it, that's nullifying it. Meaningless in the grand scheme of things if you can't attack back.

>>160341324
LIKE VARG CERAH AND GRAVEROBBER (female) (headless)???????????????????????????????????
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>>160341379
Shield plus throwing knives/crossbows

Git fukken gud kiddo
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>>160341379
>>160341449
yeah you're right. there's nothing you can do. nobody in the history of dark souls has ever beaten somebody who was using a washing pole.
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I liked the DaS2 Ganksquad

I was intense as hell at times, and the music is great
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>>160341538
Not by simply holding L1 they haven't
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>>160341538
Not somebody good. I can beat shitters with a fucking shield but I've yet to lose a duel using a Pole.
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>>160341816
Since you can't think further.
Hold L1, right hand leo thrusting sword
Use shield to beat his superior range then force R1 trades which you always win
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>>160341923
Honestly we should have a full tryhard meta /dsg/ tournament.

With poles, CCS, sabers, GFS, etc... I would enjoy that even though I'd probably get knocked out in the first round...
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>>160342056
>deep pole
>poke for 35 dmg through shield
>roll backwards 3 times
>repeat step 2
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Earth Seeker is shit, come look at this shit build I made for it. Please judge me harshly and call me rude names, thanks.
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>>160342236
>125
Kill yourself
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>>160340689
Thanks doc
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>>160341316
how
I want this to happen on a regular basis
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>>160342236
It stops scaling at 40 faith, dumbo
>wanting to use miracles
40keks
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Is LITERALLY the most useless NPC From has made in Soulsborne?

Afaik, he doesn't give you any items, even if you kill him.
He doesn't tell you anything interesting, just to find yourself a rotten bed like 4 different times.
He can't be summoned or anything.

Am i wrong? Did i miss something?

Even Cale the cartographer is more useful
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>>160342236
>Emit Force
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I'm to high to play, what's some good souls related content to watch?
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>>160342141

>he can't punish a blocked running attack + 3 rolls

Alright, thanks for clearing that up, you're just bad at the game. Got it.
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>>160342448
>he doesn't know
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>>160342259
Do people really get triggered over 5 extra levels when half this board are level 140-170 shitters?
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>>160342448
M-MUH LORE!!!
MUH ROTTING BED

>>160342481
I don't even block against regular wpole shitters. Good players don't even use it anymore because it's literally NO FUN ALLOWED, the weapon.
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>>160342448
>he didn't do it
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>>160342463
>>160342421
>>160342259

Thank you for berating me, here have more ammo to ruin me with. Please, just fuck me up. Thanks.
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>>160342481
Not him but I'm not buying it either. You can't beat a competent WP player just by holding L1 and pressing R1 after his WD attacks.

Keyword: competent.
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>>160342608
Anything to let you justify being an overlevelled shitter
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>>160342635

Spears are the new WP it seems. Main problem is their very one dimensional moveset but I've found dual wielding with them works exceptionally well.
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>>160342695
Use Heal and Regular force, dumbdumb.
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>>160342608
How active are things in that level range? Thinking about taking a few ng+(+) to that range cuz i fucking hate the people in the 120 meta.
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>>160342934
120 is for garbo ok make your build thicc add them levels /|||~~
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what's the longest spear and what's the longest lance in Dark Souls 3?
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>>160342749
Nah man my highest level character is 120. I don't care about people going to 125 though. 5 points aren't going to make the difference.

>>160342934
Dunno but I have no desire to find out. If you think the 120 meta is cancerous (as I do) try to imagine how much worse all those WP/CCS builds will be with darkmoon blade and other shenanigans.
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>>160342608
People have been doing 120 ~ 125 since DeS. Those 5 points don't matter but people will whine about anything. I pick them up if my build needs it otherwise I stay at 120.

If I could set an actual level cap within the game I would probably make it 120 though.
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>>160343023
Gargoyle Flame Spear
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>>160343115
>5 points aren't going to make the difference
Then literally everyone should go 125
And then literally everyone should go 130 because those 5 points aren't going to make the difference
And then literally everyone should go 135
If those 5 points aren't going to make the difference, then why are you using them?
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>Character you want to play/equipment you need to use requires heavy stat investment
>The sort of stat investment that realistically you can only get by going all the way to 120
>Don't want to go to 120 because then I'll be exposed to more metashit as well as the super cancer above 120
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>>160343351
Nice logic idiot
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>>160342608
I play at 125 but use the white ring when I need to "be" 120 since I'd just throw on a priestess ring if I weren't 125. I figure it's fair enough since my stats are identical save for the extra thenth a point of equip load I lose using the white ring.
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>>160343351
>autism speaks
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Which areas can i do before i HAVE TO kill the Deacons of the Deep to proceed?

>High wall
>Settlement
>Road of sacrifices
>Farron keep
>Catacombs
>Smouldering lake
And that's it right?
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>>160343630
Lothric Castle, Consumed King's Garden and Untended Graves if you kill Dancer early, as well as the Cathedral of the Deep itself.
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>>160343368
What build do you want to do anon
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>>160343530
>mathematical induction is autistic
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>>160343704
thank
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>>160342770
Spears are just as dumb and are actually way more positive on a block.

>>160343351
The meta is 120, though.
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>>160343630

dlc
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No such thing as "overleveling".
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>>160343351
If he's playing on pc it does not really matter everyone is gonna have 99 in all stats anyways.
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>>160344072
t. Drake
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>>160343115
Its not so much the PvP itself i hate at that range because honestly ive enjoyed fighting at every level and area. Its the fact that atkeast 50% of the time i get summoned for actual gamplay, the host and everybody else is just fucking around, hacking, or ganking ect. Like wtf. Yesterday i got summoned through concord to post pontiff, the host had 3 invaders and two phantoms, all of us had constant warmth and our rolling was disabled, so was most of our other movements and any time we tried to roll we did some weird dance/half-assed "dab" shit. Two times before that i got summoned to people just sitting around gesturing.
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What's the best level for farming lowbie Wolfgrass? 25 or 30? +2 or +3
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>>160344159

i'm sl28 +2 and i get continuous summons
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>>160344159
40 at +4 is fine. If you're super nervous, 30 at +3.
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>>160344072

>t. /dsg/ fightclub PCucks
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>>160340014
i thought non backflip backsteps didnt have iframes
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This thing works for pyromancies and miracles, right? Not just sorceries? I feel like my spells are still a little slow but it might just be because I've got shit all in the way of dex.
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>>160340205
Only the usual, parts of levels not loading.
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>>160344402
Yes but miracles don't get much improvement from it.
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>>160342710
>muh no true scotchman
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>>160344472
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sage's crystal staff + candlestick or sage's crystal staff + court sorcerer's staff
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>>160340205
A few

>>160344472
Beating shitters is nothing to write home about. We're talking about an even level of skill.
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>>160344443
Oh, that's a shame. On my STR/FAI build do you think I should swap it out for something like one of the Lothric pillar rings or Chloranthy+2? My other rings are Havels+2, Favor+2 and Sun's First Born. The only spell I use in the middle of a fight is Dorhys' Gnawing.
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>>160344589
We filename now?
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>>160343023

Longest lance ("pike" in this case) is the Lothric Knight Long Spear, it actually has a longer reach on the R1 than both the Greatlance and Pike.

The R1 is actually shorter than the gargoyle FS's R1, and the running R1 is a garbage minicharge attack, but the thing that makes it good is the R2. The LKLS R2 is actually the longest reaching attack in the game, primarily because you take a big fuck-off step when you do it. When 2H'd it actually quite fast too, excellent for leo counterthrusts. The lack of a running R1 poke like spears really hurts it though.
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>>160344072
>tfw checking Session Info and realising how fucking overleveled co-opers are
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>>160344472
>'scotchman"
>learning fallacies via wikepedia/google instead of learning formal written logic
If you were to present a dumb player it would just be cherry picking though. When talking about meta the convention is to assume both players are good. Kirby is top tier in melee in a low skill fight, but that doesn't affect the meta.
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>>160344681
Definitely switch it out then, for literally anything
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>>160344834
thing is, a competent player can outplay you no matter what he uses. such comparisons should be done with both players being average.
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is there any way to deal with babbies that toggle invincibility?
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>>160345013
Not if he's fighting another competent player moron
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>>160345013
Point is that the Washing Pole is an S tier weapon which means that in the hands of a competent player it is godlike. Unless you're using a similarly powerful weapon your chances of winning decrease drastically.

>inb4 muh tier lists

You know what I mean. WP is one of the best weapons in the game with the ability to outplay every single setup out there.

Claiming that you can beat WP by simply blocking their WD attacks with a shield shows that you have a very limited understanding of not only the WP itself but of PvP in general. Hint: a skilled player is going to be doing much more than spamming running attacks.
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>>160344915
Alrighty, thanks for the advice anon. I might go for Life+3 in that case, to overcome arena being non-embered.
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>>160345025
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>>160345025
curse them, teleport them over a death drop, kill their area boss, set all their stats to 1
if you dont want to or cant use ce, attack them, let them hit you to get greedy, guide them towards a death drop and kick them off
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>>160345274
>arguing about skill with /dsg/
deserved desu
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>>160345025
>>160345474
>how can i deal with cheaters guise ;_;
>cheat!

justpcuckthings
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>>160345416
the dream is dead

>>160345474
i tried to curse but it didn't work on him, none of my attacks did, but enemies could hurt him for some reason. i wish i knew how to do that other stuff though
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>>160345693
in that case he might not have been a hacker. fromsoft is notorious for their netcode
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>>160345693
If the enemies could hurt him you might've gotten memed on by the netcode, not cheating
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>>160345693
>i tried to curse
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>>160345025

>pcucks
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>>160345829
>>160345918
oh no
i was the hacker all along
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>>160345474
This shit honestly makes me wish I was playing on PS4.
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>dancer twinblades WA
So I have to drain my all my fp and stamina to do as much damage as 2 l1's. Also is dex good for scaling on this weapon?
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How do some of you people seem to encounter script kiddies on a frequent basis? I'm over 500 hours in and haven't seen a single cheater on Steam.
Are you hilariously unlucky or are you playing on the softban server?
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>>160345693
>curse
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>>160346275
>pcucks now ACCIDENTALLY hacking and cursing people
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>>160345693
>i tried to curse
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I want a low-ish level invasion build using Uchigatana and Dark Blade miracle.

Does this look okay?
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since when lothric knights can use the ladders?
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>>160346539
Release date
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>>160346275
as you witnessed, in the cases it's the netcode's fault and you don't really face a hacker, there's nothing you can do. and if he is an infinte hp hacker, he deserves to get cursed and his save files corrupted. so unless you use the cursehammer for anyone else, you're doing god's work.
>>160346449
>sonyggers STILL can't read
most people can by the age of 13, what's wrong with you?
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>>160346343
The only time I've encountered script kids is in Pontiff. I imagine they dwell in the arena now.

I never see them when I'm invading and I didn't see any during my runs for gold in brawl/duel during the first few days of the DLC
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>>160346343
What SL are you and where do you do coop and PvP?

Almost all the hackers I've encountered have been in the post pontiff area at SL 120.
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>>160346620
>120
There's your problem
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>>160346620
I coop and PvP all over the place on various characters ranging from 80 to 120, but I avoid Pontiff because gankers/fight clubs aren't interesting for me. If I'm in the mood for muh honorabru duels I'll do the DLC Arena.
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>>160345283
Np. How much luck do you have with Dorys Gnawing or whatever its called? What are your other attunement slots?
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>>160346593
Man I really need to go back to dark souls 1 sometime. That game is so fucking great and balanced.
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>>160346524

>low level build that needs Dex, Int & Fai

yeah it's not gonna be good under any circumstance
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>>160346874
I can't tell if you're being sarcastic with that webm
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>>160346580
yeah i keep it for hackers and disconnecters so i dunno why everyone is memeing on me.

>>160346343
i also only run into them in irithyll, seems to be where people come to be toxic
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>>160346874
Saved for the next time some fanboy with nostalgia goggles tells us how great DaS1 PvP was.
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>>160346959
What do you reccommend to go along with a Dex based invading build then? Skip Faith entirely and go full quality minus Strength?
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>>160346539
Wait what? They can climb ladders? Webm please.
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>>160346874
>tryhard chainstabs pve kiddy
>this somehow makes the game imbalanced
ok
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>>160346872
It's quite handy. If you're fighting some sorcerery nerd who thinks they can outrange you or if you've gotten someone down to the tiny last bit of health and they keep running away it's a handy spell to hit them with. It does less than 100 on hit but it bleeds most people for about 350 after two or three hits.

My other attunement slots are Deep Protection and either Blessed Weapon or Med Heal. Though, this conversation about rings has made me realise that Ring of the Sun's Firstborn is also pretty wasted because it won't be making my buffs any stronger and I believe that Dorhys' Gnawing does a set amount of bleed build up that isn't affected by any stats or rings.
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>>160347085

Depends on the weapon(s) you want to use.

Unless you're going pyro I would advise only focusing on 1 attack stat. Except maybe some Faith for healing/support spells.
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>>160347052
I'm being completely serious, my man!
>>160347063
The game is really great though and also perfectly balanced. You're just a hater, kiddo.
>>160347136
But I just said the game is balanced??!
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There aren't a lot of cheaters in the game, even at meta level SL120-140. You do run into them sometimes but they're all harmless, you just leave via BSC or getting insta-killed, not like you lose anything from losing an invasion. Then just block communication in steam and report them for hacking and move on to the next invasion.

It's really not that big of a deal. It'd only be problematic if you ran into it in the majority of invasions and/or they could actually get you softbanned through cheating, but they can't.
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>>160347136
It's not just this man. It's

>TwoP ganks
>WoG spam
>Dark Bead/Pursuers 1-shot
>endless poise
>magnetic backstabs
>ninja flipping havels

et fucking cetra. Please tell us all how balanced it was.
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>>160347085
How about some endurance?
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>>160347063
You know what I miss the most about Dark Souls 1 was the fact that every build was viable. Mages? Damn son, a good one would shit all over you!
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>>160346343
I've only met a cheater once, it was in the catacombs area below the bridge where he set up a fight between a mimic and the burning demon. It was a bretty gud spectacle.
Being a real pain in the ass is available to everyone on every platform, it's called white soapstone
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Are shield pokes finally useful now?
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>>160347615
No, your shield turns to paper while you shieldpoke, better to just trade with a hyperarmor weapon since you'll get more damage in that way
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>>160347467
>>TwoP ganks
kind of rare to catch you at the spawn point unless you're summoned via rss
>>WoG spam
you can midroll through
>>Dark Bead/Pursuers 1-shot
can at least fastroll through, maybe even midroll (i haven't had to face dark magic midrolling)
>>endless poise
which meant you can't spam r1 at someone's face
>>magnetic backstabs
no such thing. there is lag (not a balance issue) and ways to exploit it. only people who never bothered with the knowhows of bs chains and escapes claim that
>>ninja flipping havels
patched early
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>>160346539
>>160347123
Pretty much everything shaped like a dude can climb ladders
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>>160347406
It's still better than DaS3 PvP.
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>>160347969
That means literally (LITERALLY) nothing.
DaS3 pvp is as shallow as the puddle of cum your mother drowned yesterday
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>>160347597
Offensive spells have like S scaling in latency, so obviously the mage in that webm is bad because he didn't level his latency enough.
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>>160348035
yfw he's russian
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>>160347467
I like how when people list the things they think are wrong with DaS1 PvP it just shows how awful they were at it.

Yeah it sucks that a good player can just cheese a bad player with chain bs but that rarely happens with two good players and a reasonable amount of latency.
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>>160347136
>parry backstab is tryhard
Now I've seen it all
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>>160348139
Now someone post COMBAT OF FATAL or whatever it's called
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>>160347605
He wasnt cheating m8, ive done that too.
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>>160348215
chainstab against a guy who has no idea how what a chainstab even is, aka a pve kiddy, IS tryhard
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>>160348358
But it's not hard
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Could someone be a BF and post that table of poise values and breaking points?
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>>160348358
>sprintstabbing people who roll otg is now a tryhard technique
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>>160348484
No because it's not right since the latest patch
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>>160348139
The best part is that Dark Souls 1 didn't have a Carthus Curved Sword. And also it had poise, so even if It had Carthus Curved Sword, you could use poise to backstab punish the Carthus Abuser!
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>>160347615
Why am I still getting damaged while I shield poke
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>>160348007
>DaS3 pvp is shallow

Exactly. I much prefer DaS1 PvP because it had a had a bunch of tech and actually required you to think instead of mindlessly hitting a button. It has depth. It's far from perfect but it was pretty decent, and certainly the most fun.

>backstabs
>toggles
>dead-angles
>chainstabs
>chainstab escapes
>tech rolls

I miss it all

>>160348587
Do you have any webms of you playing against actually competent players
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>>160348587
I certainly dont miss these days.
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>>160348587
>artorias with a darksword vs cs r1 spammer
it's like i'm watching ds3! but seriously, r1 spammer got anally annihilated in 1 because of setup parries. also, that artorias has MB on. which means that he obviously knows jack shit. and GT is not nearly as long as the ccs
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>>160347925
Come the fuck on dude. I enjoyed Dark Souls PvP as much as anyone at the time but looking back on it you have to realise how ridiculously broken it was.

>>160348139
>it's another "if you didn't like you were just bad" episode

I liked it. I consider myself an average PvPer. Maybe slightly above average on a good day. Doesn't change the fact that the mechanics were fundamentally broken in many ways.
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>>160348789
That would imply there are competent players playing DaS1 on PC. So no, I don't think I have.
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Left Dark Souls 3 downloading so I can get into it when I get back from work. Are Miracles good? I want to run a Miracle Heavy Knight kinda character, and since i'm co-oping with my friend it'll be cool to tank. Is it viable at all?
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>>160349137
They were both r1 spamming
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Is there still a decent amount of PVP activity in DS1 and DS2?
Or are they ded?
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>>160347438
>Then just block communication in steam

I did this to some twinking hornet ring yhorm machete fuck in undead settlement and I would still get connected to him

>>160347615
its the fastest attack my greatlance has, and I always win the trades with my leo ring
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>>160348587
is that guy cosplaying the Ashen One?
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>>160349469
I thought that too but SLB.
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>>160349428
Yes. Enjoy your fun famalam
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>>160349431
Thanks to DSCM you can fight the same russians for hours on PC!
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>>160346874
Why the parry?
Timing or is it necessary?

I never got into meta pvp
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Bloodborne has more enemy variety than DaS3.
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So I'm starting a new character and I wanna make a pyromancer.
30/30 int/fth, right? I took the fire gem as my starting gift and put it on my axe, fireball is weak early on I'm hoping I'll pick up some neat pyromancies soon after I get orny
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>people unironically defending DaSI PvP

holy mother of god

I'm not saying DaSIII PvP is good by any means but

jesus christ
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>>160349878
It procs some glitch. I don't know the details but you it activates a state in which you can backstab people without attacking. It's an option select for when they wake up mashing attack they also get parried. Very deep game.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SFun7BQ64Ac
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>>160349142
>Doesn't reply to any of the guys points
>It's just broken!

You were probably just really average. There is so much tech in that game and I honestly doubt you knew about it all/were able to pull any of it off (especially if you thought WoG spam was a problem lol). I'll agree it can look janky as fuck sometimes and the netcode is far from perfect but there was a lot more skill involved than the PvP we have these days.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HQgLWUzl8TU

You'll never see anything as impressive as this in DaS3 PvP because the skill ceiling is barely above the floor.

>>160349878
You can queue your R1 during the parry animation which extends the window for a backstab. It also makes a chain bs attempt safer because you can even cancel the queued R1 if they do some kind of chain bs escape (reverse backstep, barrel roll, standing still). Like the other anon mentioned as well it also doubles as a way to parry the opponents wakeup R1 if they're mashing.
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>>160349878

Critical attacks have priority over other animations.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dX68noVIUFk
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>dragonsis will never eat you
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pcfcbf
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>>160350483
Host
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my favorite meme is the hp bar of a dark souls/bloodborne boss pasted over an image that isn’t the respective boss like
post em
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>>160350596
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>>160350483

Where?
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>>160350275
That video was retarded as fuck. Theres nothing impressive about abusing shitty exploits and mechanics of an unfinished game.
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I've never seen Patches appear in Onion armor and trap you in Cathedral.
How do I make him appear?
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>>160339060
>he thinks this is bad
lorefags I fucking swear
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>>160350926
It's like people getting hype about Guile Cuff glitch in arcades. It's actually cute that DaS1 serious players think that takes skill.
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>it's a "enb takes 5 days to recover from a common cold"-episode
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>>160351026
Go up the stairs, open the big door at the graveyard, quit and reload, walk across the bridge
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https://mugenmonkey.com/darksouls3/116878
Rate my build
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>>160351212
Don't even need to quit and reload, senpai.
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>>160350596
it's a good meme
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>>160351212
you mean here right? i've reloaded but he's not there
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>>160351354
If the bridge is up that means you went to the rafters and dropped down already
So now it will never happen
gg
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>>160350926
Pretty much every competitive game in existence is all about abusing exploits better than the other guy.

>>160351082
It does though, you won't see a bad player or average player come close to being able to pull that shit off. The skill ceiling doesn't come close to matching actual competitive games obviously but there's definitely skill involved.
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>>160351404
oh.
so i have to take the lift from deacons and then open the door and he'll be there?
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>>160351501
Yes
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>>160338213
How do I instant curse invaders?

I'm playing on ps4 and this ass hole keeps invading me and killing all my phantoms when I try to get help.

I'm sick of him being able to kill me just because he doesn't have a life.

How do I instant curse him or set all of his stats to 1?
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>>160350275
I guess what he meant was that everything that adds depth or skill to DaS's pvp comes from broken stuff rather than intentional
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>>160351604
is this post real
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>>160351339
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>Watching a stream on my second monitor inbetween PvP matches.
>Firefox crashes mid-match and alt tabs me.
>Open the game window again.
>YOU DIED

>Use the steam browser to check something on the wiki.
>Go back to playing.
>Steam webhelper crashes while I'm fighting something and alt tabs me.
>Open game window again.
>YOU DIED.
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>second person trying to use a ledge after the second wolf encounter in dlc takes an immense fall damage, usually enough to kill them unless they have like 50 vig
holy shit a lot of hosts don't know this
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>>160351469
Not it doesn't. That's just muscle memory in a game that the smallest timeframe for reaction is a second. Get over yourself.

You won't see a bad or average player pull this off too. Does it take skill? Hell no.
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>>160351604
Install Gentoo
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wall doggo
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>>160351604

looks like some weak ass bait, but you never know with /dsg/
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>>160351604
stop being bad
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>>160348768
Ummm thanks for the answer I guess
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>dancers right sword is imbued with dark magic
>Deals magic damage
?
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>>160349428
For co op, yes, very.

For solo play regen miracles can be useful if cast at the start of a duel, especially in the arena since you play unembered there (you have embers instead of humanity, popping one gives you a 30% increase in max hp). Gives you access to health you'd ordinarily be unable to gain from just leveling up, assuming you aren't instakilled before you can heal back some of the damage you've taken etc.

>>160349941
35/35 at least, if not 40/40. I mean think about it: mages usually go to 60 int and on average you're going to be stuck with around 10 base faith, so as a caster you've got a net 70 points of investment. On a pyro you'll split that 35/35 at least.
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>>160352207
>There's a fire on the ground
>It does fire/physical damage

DaS3 is retarded
>>
>Heavy/High damage weapons
>Light/High DPS weapons
Which would you say are easier to play the game with? I'm curious because I pretty much strictly use heavy weapons but my friends and most of the people I PvP with seem to use smaller weapons.
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>>160351781

Can you even identify five techniques demonstrated in that video? You can list even the most obvious ones. To me it sounds like you're just not familiar with them.
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>>160352386
Bleed weapons
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>>160351781
>webm of a reverse backstep

HAHAHA

That's probably the most awful comparison I've ever seen. Not nearly as difficult as anything shown in that video. All you're showing is a mixup, it doesn't depend on anything the opponent is doing, it doesn't require you to pull one off in a split second to react to something your opponent is doing either. It's also an extremely simple input.

It's honestly hilarious that you're using this as a comparison. Somehow that's comparable to a barrel roll bs with a menu weapon swap. You could have just told me you were bad at PvP.
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Are they banning peple who pirated the dlc? Not feeling like playing this thing but if I can get it for free, then why not?
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>>160352578
Of course it's an awful comparison. Dark Souls 3 somehow manages to be even shallower than Dark Souls 1, and that's saying a lot.
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>>160351927
You're welcome!
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>>160352386
For PvE? Anything with bleed, since virtually every enemy in DS3 is vulnerable to it.
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>>160352443
Toggle Escape
Barrel Roll
Backstep Escape
Parrystab
Rollstab
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I'm on NG+ in Dark Souls using a physical build. I like my black knight sword, but I kinda wanna try more. What physical weapons are actually worth investing in? I only have so much titanite and dragon scales.
>>
I've never done the undead match arena thing before. But I have to ask.
Do you get souls for fighting in the arena? Or should I farm souls for consumables before going in?
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>>160353026
you don't get any souls
arena in general was a huge fucking mistake
there was a reason for it not giving souls in dark souls 2 but no reason whatsoever for it not giving souls in dark souls 3
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>>160352386
generally str weapons are better in pve, because of their range and the fact that ai is dumb as shit. in ds3 in particular, a simple bandit's knife can nilly willy turn any battle into a quentin tarantino scene
>>
memehackzaki
>>
tryhard pvp everyone

I tried rollpunishing with the poke because I forgot it wasn't Ds3
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>>160352975
try everything. going to ng+ without farming at least the sword black knights for chunks was a mistake though.
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>>160352645
No wonder why people consider PC souls players cancer. I'm disgusted about entitled pirates and hackers. I'm sure people on the consoles would cheat and pirate if they could, but they CAN'T do it.

But out of some perverse curiosity I'd want to see Bloodborne on PC, just to see if anything about the cut content could be datamined.
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>>160353178
>that
>tryhard
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>>160353401
that was the joke, sorry if I wasn't clear

some anon was talking about how backstabs were hard to execute when someone else posted webms of it
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>>160353383
>paying for games
Consolecucks everyone
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>>160353253
I died enough against Gwyn that farming kinda just happened. I have some heavy weapons (Demon Machete, Demon Greataxe, Black Knight Halberd (already tried, don't like halberds), Black Knight Greatsword, and Demon Hammer, but am having a bit of trouble adapting to the really slow swing speed and high weight.

Any spears that are particularly good with high strength, or not really?
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>>160353383
I tip my fedora to you my fellow gentlesir!

>being a one platform poorfag

Cute. Just for your record, the reason I don't want to pay for it is because this game is garbage and the dlc is not worth it, so if I can't get it for cheap then I don't give a fuck. Bloodborne is much better, if that suits your fedora, you poorfag sonygger.
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>>160353178
that's not a chainstab, you moronic memer
>>
Is the Great Mace or Vordts viable in PvE and/or PvP?
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>>160353514
I didn't say it was you adjective noun
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>>160348587
> so even if It had Carthus Curved Sword, you could use poise to backstab punish the Carthus Abuser!
wrong
curved swords in das1 denied backstabs through super easy cancels
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>>160353606
That's the joke, friendo.
>>
So how many of you actually go to ng+ after doing everything in ng?

is it worth it or should i just make a new character.
>>
>>160353383
Except consoles can cheat and pirate. It's just more difficult to set up, and usually involves modifying your console, which most peasants are too stupid to do.
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>>160353651
Ng+ in this game is so shit i get bored before the Abyss Watchers
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>>160353651
I'm doing my first NG+ playthrough. I'm enjoying the catharsis of steam rolling everything but I don't know if I locked myself out of possibly co oping with people on their first run and am mildly worried with that.
>>
What do you typically do against greatshield + estoc?
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>>160352578
>people considered things like hardswaps and toggle escapes """skill""" in ds1
it's just inputs, it isn't interactive at all. Unless you're doing something like actively reading your opponent switching to a magic stoneplate ring and switching away from a magic weapon as you riposte, hardswaps aren't actually related to the combat between each person. Same goes for toggles. It isn't like the person stunlocking you is going to do anything to prevent you from toggling weapons either. It's no more a skill than anything from PvE. In the end it's really just something you know or don't know, not something worthy of praise. Backstabs and escapes were actually interactive, don't pretend toggling etc was the same just because it's "tech skill".
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What are the things that breaks Anri's quest?
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>>160354075
ng level doesn't matter, just sl and weapons
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>>160353651
I just started, and I think it depends a bit on you. If you want to make a super character, go for it. It's easier to level up and get souls to buy shit (Spells are expensive as fuck desu senpai). Like, I'm doing my NG+ with a physical build, and there really was no way I would get 50 strength for Havel's Greatshield while still having enough endurance to move much and enough vitality to be able to take hits, so this way I can finally use it. The only reason to use a new character entirely is to start up a whole new style build.
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>>160354183
depends on the ending you want

you'll always get something if you don't kill her iirc, but I don't remember what happens if you tell her about horace
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>>160354092
Run the clock.
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>>160331271
>AoA is meant to be tackled right after Lothric Castle
I did it on NG+ right as soon as I could possibly get to the cathedral. But what made you come to the conclusion that it's meant to be done after Lothric Castle normally?
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>guy R1s me twice with an axe
>then does a jumping attack
>roll perfectly behind him to punish with a backstab
>his attack hits me while I'm half a meter behind him
>he wasn't even laggy

what the fuck is up with that retarded hitbox
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>someone invades and wants to play tour guide
>have already been through the area but have to go through again because i cant bring myself to kill him
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>>160354387
Possibly the dev message that says exactly that
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>>160354337
>you'll always get something if you don't kill her iirc
No. If you go to the wrong places in the wrong order you'll just never be able to speak with her again.
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>>160354092
U
N
L
O
C
K

if you can see with direction they're circling for a backstab, you can unlock and turn your back away then R1 them on the side, where they aren't blocking. Super easy with CCS. Alternatively you can just wail on them, if they try shieldpoking they'll lose almost all of their stamina (though they won't be guardbroken since the shieldpoke prevents the guardbreak from happening, but they can't block without being broken and can't roll, so close enough).
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>>160348484
>that image
>no dancer and pontiff

I'm disappointed
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>>160354491
>the dev message
Interesting. Where did they post that?
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>>160354607
Like five feet from the first bonfire dude
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If I beat a host and his white phantom helper, are they really bad or am I good?
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>>160354558

>CCS
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>>160354641
How about a little bit of both?
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>>160354641
Yes
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Have you ever found a soulsborne area scary?

Which one?
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>>160354846
Frigid Outskirts
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>>160354724
you don't need CCS to do it, but it's good for figuring out what you're actually going for since it has wide and fast swings
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Who is the absolute dumbest person you've been summoned for?
>host tries using sorceries against Blue Smelty
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>>160354497
as long as she doesn't sink into depression via you killing friendly horace and/or die via pilgrim(if you aren't on good terms with yuria)/unfriendly horace/you, you're fine

and if you're doing the quest where ludeth gives you her sword, you need to get it off him before he becomes a pile of ashes, though you can still go through with the quest
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>>160355018
If I'm playing a sorcery character you better believe I'm not going to bitch out and unzip some pocket melee just because a boss is resistant to magic.
By definition anyone who summons for anything is an idiot though.
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>>160354846
New Londo get me paranoid
Tomb of the Giants too
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>>160353489
>I tip my fedora to you my fellow gentlesir!
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>>160355152
>or die via pilgrim
I think that's what happened to me. I am not sure.
People here told me I broke the events by not going to the cathedral of the deep until last.
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Reposting this.

Which boss did you fight first?
http://www.strawpoll.me/11663254
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>>160354846
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>>160354846
New Londo Ruins makes me legit uneasy and for the lack of a better term, afraid.

>heights
>deep water
>darkness
>ghosts that can come through walls

I think one of the only ways to make me more triggered about this area would be to have swimming mechanics in the game and have underwater tunnel sections.
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>>160354846
Hemwick was pretty spooky.
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>afk
>full bow
>tears
ENOUGH IS ENOUGH
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>playing bloodporn for the first time
>want to parry, but suck shit against big guys so I mash that cane R1
>every npc is an asshole, except for the crow mask girl who tolerates me
>started with cane and blunderbuss
>my goal is pure bloodtinge build

How fucked am I?
>>
Twin Princes greatsword any good for twinking?
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>>160354565
No. Pontiff was nasty to her. She wouldn't cuddle him. Vordt was loyal to her. Probably a weird fat neckbeard 'nice guy' type though.
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>weapon class is called Halberds
>only the titular Halberd itself is a thrusting weapon, the other weapons in the class are not used remotely like a halberd but more like a poleaxe
>the Bardiche was incorrectly named the Scythe for two games, and is now incorrectly named the Glaive
>the Lucerne (Hammer) is held upside-down

Is it that hard to fucking google medieval weaponry, From?
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>>160356752

No, but Lorian's UGS is decent.
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>>160353601
Chainstabbing is try hard, especially against PvEers who don't know how to counter it. The second webm is just non-twink low level pvp. If you can't tell the difference, you probably aren't developed enough to be on 4chan
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>Red hilted halberd
>Got a red hilt
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>>160356723
somewhat fucked.
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> try invading
> get invaded so I can't
> try summoning
> everybody leaves right after being summoned
> I am behind a guy
> he gets a backstab on me
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>>160356723
>>playing bloodporn for the first time
good
>>want to parry, but suck shit against big guys so I mash that cane R1
try pistol
>>every npc is an asshole, except for the crow mask girl who tolerates me
Alfred
>>started with cane and blunderbuss
cane is good, but SKL weapon variety is shit in the long run (like 3 pure SKL weapons total)
>>my goal is pure bloodtinge build
there are couple of weapons that scale with bloodtinge. STR is bestest overall tho for variety
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>four-pronged plow
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>>160354103
Knowledge and reactions/execution are all part of the skill though.

>It's just knowing how to press buttons

A lot of what you're saying is arguing with stuff I've never said. I think you're just arguing semantics honestly. Yeah, knowing how and when to do inputs like toggles doesn't require much skill, but you still knew to do it, and even toggles require decent timing if you want to escape after the first swing. I never said they were the same as backstabs or escapes, though, those are obviously different because you opponent is actively playing against it.

>>160356723
The cane is probably the weakest starting weapon but scales well. Blunderbuss is shitty, the pistol scales better with BT and fires quicker.
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>>160355447
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EoyRcGkDnJo
How do you pronounce it?
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>>160354724
Fight cancer with cancer. If the opponent is going to be a no fun allowed faggot, might as well respond in equal
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>>160356895
>Zweihänder attack animation
>flails it around like a kid with a plank
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>>160356883
I'm pretty sure they did cuddle at some point
Then shit happened
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>>160357252
>5 prongs
FOUR
AND
THE
HIDDEN
FIFTH
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>>160357254
I will never understand how AGS became popular in the Souls community. This guy is insufferable.
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>>160357253
>>160357235
How can I get the pistol?
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>>160357285
>>160356895
>the Lucerne was held the right way in Demon's Souls
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>>160357469
Just buy it
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>>160356883
>Probably a weird fat neckbeard 'nice guy' type though
You can literally see Vordt's neckbeard from under his helmet.
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>>160357469
There's a Saw Hunter badge in Yharnam that'll enable you to buy it from the messengers in the dream.

Have you met the piggy yet?
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>>160357539
>>160357592
No, I didn't face the first boss yet and just unlocked some shortcuts
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>>160357696
Look out for the badge, it's in the sewer area of Yharnam.
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>>160338213
What is it with Demon's Souls boss design decisions. All the lesser demons are pretty neat and engaging. But then the archdemons, which are supposed to be pivotal to the plot, consist of a fight with a player-like character with next to no lore, a fight with a player-like character with really cool lore, scripted sequence of easy puzzles with no lore, bigger version of one of the least memorable regular mobs with no lore, and an actually really awesome fight that is relevant to the game and offers an unexpected plot twist. So that gives what, 1.5 out of five main bosses being remarkable in any way.
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>>160357418
He represents the community well
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>>160356895

They continued their bullshit in the DLC
The way your character holds the sabre when you two hand it makes me vomit
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>Yorshka
>Looks like a half dragon like Priscilla
>Trapped in the tower from where the Painted World of Ariamis used to be hosted
>The cathedral that also houses the remains of the Painting Guardians

>No connection whatsoever to the Ashes of Ariandel DLC that's all about painted worlds
Really?
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>>160357418
>Probably a weird fat neckbeard 'nice guy' type though

The Demon's Souls shit he did back in the day was okay. I'd say that as long as you don't get exposed to his personality, his content is pretty decent. He's the epitome of a cringy fedora which is a source of hilarity and fremdschämen but if you just stick to his content he's decent.

>spy in charge of not totally dropping his spaghetti
https://youtu.be/D3Wa4bx6t-A?t=5768
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>>160357784
Both old monk and astrea have lore to them.
Only that Monk's AI fight is pretty bad, as is Garl's.

Storm king is just an excuse for storm ruler
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>>160348789
You forgot
>wrath of the gods spam
>backstab fishing beyblades
>parrying only
>GIANTS
>people ninja fliping and not doing anything until you cant be bothered and give up
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>>160354846
Totg is spoopy and the dogs are annoying, but new londo legitimately scared me. Especially since I was fighting with half HP to get to Ingward and had no idea about the spawn points.
>dim light
>that certain ghost above the soul after the ladder
>eery spookiness
>no hp
>getting hit through the shield
>that fucking animation when they stab your corpse repeatedly if they kill you with the grab
>all the drowned bodies after you drain the water
>darkwraiths popping out ta nowhere
Such a great area
>>
When are greatswords getting nerfed? These things are fucking stupid.
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>>160358019
Really cool lore refered to Astraea. She is the half of 1.5. Not mentioning that you could just skip garl completely.
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>>160358019
>Storm king is just an excuse for storm ruler
Why even say this if it doesn't change the fact that it's a shit fight?
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>>160354846
I was pretty spooked by parts of Irityll Dungeon on the first run through.
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>>160357784
>But then the archdemons, which are supposed to be pivotal to the plot
Nowhere it actually says this. The way the ArchDemons are handled is that they're just keys and only Maiden Astraea has any real buildup to her.

I'd still say that while the gimmick bosses were a letdown, Old Monk was awesome back in the day, and Maiden Astraea and Storm King hold up even today by sheer design alone.
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>>160356895
I would already be glad if halberds wouldn't clip into my stomach when I attack.
They truly gave no fucks in 3. Miyazaki just wanted to be over with this series and DLC2 won't be anything special either.
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>>160358194
Dexfag spotted.
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>>160358194
t. UGS shitter unable to realise no one cares about his class
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>ftw 2 intellegnet 4 pvp
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>>160358285
>Storm King hold up even today by sheer design alone.
Setpiece bosses that move around on invisible rails and have the player ignore their usual build/playstyle in favor of some artificial gimmick tied to the area have always been shit in every single video game.
>>
I love Gundyr's Halberd.
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>>160358415
>that tfw when ur to smart for shallow souls game
>>
which is the longest spear? knowing FROM it's probably NOT lothric knight long spear
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>>160358285
>Storm King
>Design
Yeah, no. Astraea has great lore and voiceacting but the fight is underwhelming. And ArchDemons are pivotal because you need their power to grant yourself audience with demon daddy. And they got so much power because they were important to him in the first place, so they should have at least a bit of development put into them, not less than the average boss.
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>>160358363
>>160358396
What is it, /dsg/?
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>>160358510
Gargoyle Flame Spear.
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>>160358092
>wrath of the gods spam
Literally just roll through it

>backstab fishing beyblades
Backstabs can be countered and played against. The PvP does revolve around backstabs a lot though.

>Parrying only
What do you even mean by this? Parry spam is easily punished and played around in DaS1. Much easier than it is in 3.

>Giants
Full giants isn't possible without a huge sacrifice

>people ninja fliping and not doing anything until you cant be bothered and give up
This isn't any worse than people rolling around forever in DaS3, especially with bloodring.

Are you one of those people who thinks Giantdad was actually a strong PvP build?
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>>160354846
3-1(tower of latria)
when you dont where all the bell octos are, the loud ringing can make your heart drop. also
>please. help me!
>HHHHHHHHHHHRNNNNNNNNNNNNN
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What weapons are best for sharp infusion? I have 16 str only though i could put a couple more points there if i really need to.
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>>160358704
Crow quills
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http://images.akamai.steamusercontent.com/ugc/397834442117543020/E2F93E812DC8220FC5ADB0D94B61367519BF1C65/

Any other drawfags in here ?

I can't find the original pic on my computer and I'm too lazy to save it then post it
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>>160358415
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>>160357324
Sulyvahn probably raped her or made her have passionate sex with him. It wasn't love though. There'd be no cuddles.

>>160357568
>Neckbeard visible on armour
>Fat
>Prone to rages
>Shrieks autistically
>Cold disposition
>>
I feel like Soul Stream would be fine for pvp if it just didn't have that useless knockback effect so I could hit for the full 1k on people.
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>>160358906
>Sulyvahn probably raped her or made her have passionate sex with him
Where are the drawfags when we need them
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>>160358632
Wrath is cancer because people would do multiple runs just to stack as much of it as they could and would try to cast faster than you can roll. Backstabs were important, but people refusing to fight and only trying to lagstab you from a 90 degree angle was annoying. Not strong, just offensive. By parrying only I mean those people that would just stand still/pace around until you swing and execute a perfect parry. Giants is not a strong build, but people going for chaos weapons, fully upgraded flames and pumping end to fast roll in armor that gives you the best protection in game while being able to invade low level players wasn't as much unfair as unfun, because no amount of gitting good can help a normal build in the middle of leveling to beat a minmaxer.
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>>160358858
make her choke on a big thick dragon dick
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>>160358906
>>160359042
>made her have passionate sex
Made her have passionless sex, I mean, whoops.
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>>160358858
That's pretty good
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>>160358723
That's the weapon i'm using right now. Looking for a backup.
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>>160359042
There was lewds of Dancer before the game was even out.
Tbh, I enjoy erotic art that isn't nsfw more than hardcore sex depictions.
>>
https://clips.twitch
.tv/distortion2/WonderfulRaccoonBORT

Praise Miyazaki.
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>Crow Quills
Coolest weapon in the entire franchise. Why didn't Bloodborne have them?
>>
Why does /dsg/ have such a strong dislike towards shields?
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>>160359174
Because you can't Trick them.
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>>160359162
I'm surprised he's actually laughing and not whining. The guy usually sounds like he's on the verge of a mental breakdown.
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>>160359112
That is way less interesting now

>>160359159
The lewds are meh
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>>160359319
Becuase they still think they're OP like before and not usable and very useful tools against certain weapons.
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>>160359353
https://clips.twitch
.tv/nemz38/MotionlessHorseBabyRage

Speedrunners learned to have fun.
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>>160359319
Because /dsg/ relies on crutches like parry spamming, which shields counter.
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>>160359174

Too bad the reach is garbage, estoc still bestoc.
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>>160359139
Thanks <3
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>>160359319
Shields promote passivity, which in turn promotes unfun gameplay.
>>
Now that Astora GS got fixed, should I use Profaned GS instead for my mega leo poke build? I want to use it with an offhand estoc I can switch to dual wielding to punish people trying to get close. Like 2H it and then all of a sudden bam Y L2 L2 Y, bestoc outta nowhere.
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>>160359557
>Shields promote passivity
I actually see far more shield players couragously walk straight towards threats, than pussyfooting rollfaggots hopping all over the stage.

Not saying you can't be a coward with a shield, or a courageous roller. But generally speaking, that's the impression I've gotten.
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>>160359319
A lot of weapons don't work well against shields, especially since apparently a bunch of anti-shield weapons got nerfed, and it promotes boring runaway shit which is compounded by Das3's fast, and far rolls with tons of iframes
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>>160359686
Since getting hit with your shield up almost always means you're still at frame disadvantage, people who walk forward with a shield up are complete idiots.
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>>160359319
Triggered by memories of Dark Souls 2 Estoc Turtles.
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>>160359557
Dont half the weapons in the game have stance? Just fucking guardbreak them if theyre really that braindead. Or outpassive them.
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>>160359804
People don't walk forward with a shield up expecting to get hit, they do it to fake out running attacks to get you to parry so they can backstab you. If you -do- hit them instead they'll just back off again.
>>
are the hunter/knight rings good to use or should you avoid them? i'm talking on a SL80 invasion build
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>>160359804
Having a shield doesn't prevent you from being able to roll you know.
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>>160358906
how can a mere mortal artistically capture yorshka's spirit this flawlessly
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What is the most broken pve shit on Sotfs ?
The type of shit that annihilate bosses on ng+9
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>>160360003
ring of blades/flynn's ring with red iron twinblade/rapier
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>>160359174
it's a meme weapon favored by reddit
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>>160359961
Depends on whether you'll get good scaling benefits on your weapon and what you're using.
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>>160359557
>passivity

LUL

In b4 mad at how balanced the invasion system is in this game, I just wanted By My Sword nigga

>>160359804

This idiot... you're the guy who thinks you're invincible forever with your shield up and then cry when you don't understand why your stamina is 0, aren't you?

There's a right and a wrong way to use 100% physical block shields, stamina management is key. Looking out for guardbreak WA weapons, even more so.
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>>160360302
are you trying to make it so less people use your favorite weapon because you're doing a bad job
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>>160360470
good bait
look at how many people will fall for it
>>
I wanna be a FIRE MAN
30/30 INT / FTH scaling for pyromancies, right? I've played sorcerors and clerics but pyromancy and dark magic/pyromancy is unknown to me.
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>>160360320
i'm trying to come up with something like this, but the spear might be too much and in that case i could get rid of hunter's
also don't know how much stamina i'll need for yhorm's maybe i can get away with lower than 40
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>>160360570

Hey man, if you want 1v1 honor duels with no chugging stick to the arena.
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>>160360585
40/40 if you want to actually do damage.
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>>160360302
Reddit can fuck themselves. But I have wanted to play Ciel ever since I first tried out Demon's Souls.
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>>160360873
80 point investment to do damage? What is this, Morne's hammer?p
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>>160360919
52, since a pyromancer starts at 14/14.
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>>160360919
Pyro is the most optimised class, with only 8 VIT and 7 LCK. Sorcerers and Clerics only need a stat investment of 60 INT/FTH, but they still have some FTH/INT, not to mention 12/13 LCK.
>>
Which does more damage with crow quills riposte: 60 DEX + Blessed Weapon, or 40 DEX + 60 FAI DMB?
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>>160361039
>>160361123
Alright, 52 isn't as bad. Jesus though, Morne's hammer has insane requirements to use now that I think of some of the sorceries and UGS's in this game
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>>160360470

>turtlestoc
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>>160351604
Honestly if you'd said PC I might have taken the b8 m8. Instead I'll go masturb8.
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>>160360706
>caestus
Ditch the spear and put on Hornet
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>>160360470

8/10 good bait
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>>160362010
yeah i'll do that
thanks
>>
Anyone up for some coop in bloodborne? Wanna do ebrietas, logarius and one reborn - feel free to hit me up via psn
>>
Fighting the wolf and that shitty little gravetender sure was something of an anti-climactic way of ending the DLC. Not necessarily a bad fight, but it can't compete with the church fight at all.
>>
Is it a dick move to invade and use in game enemies as distractions/allies?
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>>160362470
Did you rike the Gravetender fashion ?
>>
Why is it that Drangleic is so much better than Anor Londo and any and all of its predecessors/alternate outfits/ripoffs?
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>>160361339
Morne's offender isn't the stat reqs. It's the indirect vit and end reqs. And the fact that the miracles that are useable with 30 fai are few and far between. It should at least be buffable with blessed weapon
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>>160362374
>>>/vg/bbg
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>>160362870
it's not
i like drangleic but its not
>>
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WVCRwv3VMoA

This song kind of feels like Dark Souls.
>>
>>160362859
What? No, thats the entire point. Kill that host. Either humiliate him in 1v1 or frustrate him by hiding behind things that can pummel him for you. If they lose either way then they deserve it.
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>>160362470
You just can't comprehend the LORE of the boss fight. An amazing close to the lore of the forlorn that really tugs at the feeling, bro. Remember Artorias and Sif?
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Let the bass kick
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>>160354846
>New Londo
Dark, instant death pits, water, ghosts going through walls. When a transient urse runs out when you're in the middle of business, you're fucked. After you drain it, there are Darkwraiths there which are both powerful and rather unpredictable, given their movesets. I'm always afraid when I'm there, even once I'm overleveled and with an optimized build, doing decent damage.
>Tower of Latria
Most of it is pretty spooky, mostly the prison area. The squidheads can fuck you up regardless of level and skills, they're just too fucking fast and get hyperarmor from farting.
Actually it's more atmospheric than scary, but still manages to incite some fear.
>>
ÃŽ don't understand poise/HA at all. How much poise do I need to poise through a GS like the MLGS or onyx blade with my BKGS? Everytime I swing at an GS I somehow get staggered.
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What is the ideal level and upgrade for Aldrich faithful?
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>>160360706
Without fap you'd probably want around 40, but with fap I wouldn't bother going past 37. Contrary to what mugenmonkey says, the 37th level of endurance gives you four points of stamina with favor +2, while the 38th only gives two more points (though that'll break differently with +0 and +1). You can definitely trim off at least two points and throw them on str. I'd also probably ditch the GFS with those stats, a crossbow might be useful.
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>>160362867
>>160363140
No I can dig it. I just feel like ending with Friede and the church would have been so much better.
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>>160363612
poise is hyperarmor ammo

if you aren't using a hyperarmor attack it isn't doing you any good and you'll stagger regardless of how much you have

if you are doing a hyperarmor attack, your poise determines if you flinch or not
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>>160363668
It does end there though.

Gravetender is like kalameet
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>>160363774
All right. I assume a 2hR1 from a BKGS has HA, how much poise to I need to withstand greatswords?
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Friends, I needs some easy fashion for the faraam helm. Nothing to flashy and looking at the light - medium side in terms of weight. I like the knight chest, but think I can do better and everything I've gotten so far has a neck gap (literally everything) or looks goofy (wolf knight chest)

Help me please
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>playing on my level 65 +8 weapon co-op character
>decide to try some arena, surely at this SL it shouldn't be that bad
>literally every duel is against someone with a curved sword or katana and offhand caestus
Okay thanks.
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>>160363964
>everything I've gotten so far has a neck gap

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA
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>>160363880
noobody knows my dude, got patched

prior to now you needed 38 poise use a hammer to take a 2H GS swing or a 1H hammer swing, and non-hammer weapons all required even more than that
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>>160360706
https://mugenmonkey.com/darksouls3/116946
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If I wanted to do a Remnant of Izalith build, I would need Chaos Pyromancy wouldn't I? I'm focusing more on the demon part of Izalith than the actual chaos magic but I'll add it if I need it to complete the set up.
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Where does the Nameless King get so many dragons.
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>>160363850
Going down to the bottom before doing the cathedral feels anything but natural though. Everything points towards the cathedral. And the only two places that points towards the bottom are either behind an illusory wall and the other is down beneath the broken bridge ladder. Where the latter also happens to be the only way down.

Meanwhile if you just continue to walk through the settlement you naturally find yourself at the cathedral and the contraption that unlocks said bossfight.
Getting down to the bottom first feels like a huge detour and feels anything but natural.
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>>160364282
Ikea.
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>>160364041
the 37 thing I mentioned only applies if you've got the +2 ring, but it's probably fine either way

I'd consider using 40 str but you could always add vig or just have a lower sl
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>>160364178
interesting, why thrall axe? i've never tried it in pvp
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>>160364282
The children of the original stormdrake
They bred a lot
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>poise
>poise
>poise
When did we learn how poise work?
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>>160364167
>noobody knows
Shit. I'm at 32, maybe I need more if you needed 38 for a GH before the patch. Thanks anyway.
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>>160364178
>https://mugenmonkey.com/darksouls3/116946
>taking the yhorms out of his offhand
litteraly defeated the purpose of his build
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>>160361146
Just do 40 dex and stay a lower level, then the riposte will outright oneshot anyone.
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>>160360585
30/30 is fine, don't listen to sl120 shits. They'll probably tell you to go quality on a greataxe.
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>>160364362
great for mobility and fast hit which Yhorm's can't really do, and Deep because it can chip through shields nicely and it'll get more damage than physical at these stats

>>160364450
he can put it in whatever fucking hand he wants dum dum
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>>160364178
Dude... there's a reason I put Yhorm's in offhand
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>>160364296
If you played the game up to catacombs, your first thought upon seeing the bridge should be to strike it and try to climb down
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>>160364421
like a couple weeks after launch, but noone gave a shit because there weren't any attainable poisebreaks until recently aside for the ones which simple required you to have nonzero poise
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>>160364581
My first thought was that it was most likely possible. It was however not, that I should climb down then and there and not later.
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>>160364421
I think it was when the poise patch dropped and thousands of ultra weapons builds became obsolete in a single day.
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>>160364532
ah okay, i might try that out if broadsword doesn't work out for me
thanks
>>160364549
??? i'm not you faggot
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>>160360470

Hey anon, this is a blue board. You can't post a gangrape on this board, take that to the adult boards or at least spoiler that shit ffs.
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>>160363630

50/+6 I'd say.
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>>160364691
>became obsolete
>implying they weren't prior, save for AGS
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>>160364581
Pretty sure there isn't any other point in DS3's base game where you cut a bridge and use it to climb down. The most relatable situation is the ravine in the Undead Settlement, which isn't a rope bridge, you have to buy a key to get down there. Or survive the fall.
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>>160364496
>>160360585


30/30 is still too low dude.

I advise 35/35 for SL80, 40/40 around SL100 and above.
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>>160364678
>break bridge from one side
>nothing, but see it stays nicely on the other
>reset area
>reach Friede
>she tells you to leave
>break it
>climb down and fight boss right near its entrace

It's much faster to reach gravetender than Friede and most people fought him first
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>>160364532
>it'll get more damage than physical
other than on shields, no
he's got 38 str and you're always going to twohand the axe for quickstep. You only lose 6 twohanded AR by going heavy, and only 3 if you do that and go up to 40 str. Typically weapons with like 500 AR outdamage split weapons with 50 more AR, a sub 10 point difference isn't enough to split to beat pure.
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is there a better feeling?
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>>160363630
Please respond. My berries need to know.
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>>160362870
>Why is it that Drangleic is so much better than Anor Londo
It's not but I appreciate the feeling of travel the world map gives. Still, the areas themselves were bad.
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>>160365186

Cucking 2 blues.
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>>160362859
No, use everything at your disposal. You want those embers and tongues, right? A good way of taking out the hosts and his phantoms is chucking an undead hunter charm while they're fighting mobs.
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>Kill Friede
>Have to listen to that damn crackling burning place in all of the painted world of ariamis
I've done it, I've ruined the DLC area for myself!
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>>160365508
What level are you invading?
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>>160365508
>all the phantoms desperately trying to kill you after the host died
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>>160365186
you gotta start making some webms my man, nobody wants to see that screencap shit
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>>160365186
yeah, this
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>>160364006
Eh... That is the where nothing else can compete against katana and curved swords... Don't know what you expected
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>>160365737
>wanting more low quality webms shitting up the thread
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>>160365990
That SL is Sellsword/Quills realm actually. With a few guest hammers.
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>>160365683
go to a higher ng?
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This is an interesting blogpost :
>http://exploringbelievability.blogspot.com/2011/03/analysis-demons-souls.html
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>>160362470
I reached fought the wolf before reachind friede in my blind play
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>>160355152
>she
>her
>not knowing the truth
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>>160366106
Yeah whatever you say fag
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>>160363612
You need poise>22,22 to tank a GS 2HR1 at 100% poise
And poise>37,78 to tank a 2HR1 at 80% poise

Keep in mind that UGS got a poise activation nerf in the last patch, so you can't really trade on reaction against GS because the poise active frames in the UGS attack comes way later than it used to. Meaning you are pretty much dead if your enemy don't try to attack after you attack.
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>>160366180
>>160365070
Now I get that it I seem to be in a minority here.
But I'd still like to say. When you reach the Rope Bridge Cave bonfire. You are met with two paths. A ladder, and a bridge.
Both lead down. One path however is an actual legitimate ladder that leads down to a settlement of buildings. And the other, is a bridge that you have to make into a ladder yourself by breaking it first. And it leads down to a messy root platforming network spiralling downwards.

The regular ladder being a regular ladder, feels much more connected to the area of the Rope Bridge Cave and the upper level of the painting in general. Whereas the broken bridge feels much more like a break-off point off towards an entirely new area. Which it kind of is.
The order the game even lists the bonfires when you sit down at one even is
>Snowfield
>Rope Bridge Cave
>Corvian Settlement
>Snowy Mountain Pass
>Ariandel Chapel
>Sister Friede
>Depths of the Painting
>Champion's Gravetender
with the depths naturally being last.

If you go down the ladder instead of the broken bridge, you are very likely to end up at Friede first unless you deliberately stray from the path. So I am guessing people just didn't go down the ladder.
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>>160366821
>Keep in mind that UGS got a poise activation nerf in the last patch
debunked
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>>160366857
Excuses because you can't think outside the box
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For some reason I can't get past this guy anymore, did they change his pathing or something?
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>>160365689

50.

>>160365708

I absolutely love it when they do that. I can sense the rage and tears through the screen.
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>>160366961
Confirmed actually. The poise activated frame starts later meaning getting all poise in the world doesn't matter if when everything swings faster.
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>>160367040
no, it's the same
just quitout
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>been using Heysel pick since the hammer buff for fun invasions
>jund makes a video on it

When will someone kill that guy?
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>>160366280
The VA for the male version is still a girl iirc
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>>160367040
>that HP
m8
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>>160367641
All he does is bitch and try to justify his shitty behavior. I only just discovered that guy and he's a tremendous faggot.
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>>160366963
I never once doubted that you could go down the bridge.
But I don't see how deciding to go down that path first equals to thinking outside of the box.
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>>160366089
fuck off nigger
no one cares that you don't like webms
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>>160367641
>>160368027
>see Jund make a video about a weapon
>can't wait to get on /dsg/ and see the butthurt
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>>160365454
>I appreciate the feeling of travel
And what I mean by this is that while Demon's Souls and Dark Souls have really cool worlds, I really yearned the feeling of actually traveling up and down the land before arriving the destination, the real deal. Demon's Souls had the Journey to the Nexus which felt really separate from the whole game and it was hard to place the area. Dark Souls felt very centralized to the core of Lordran.

Dark Souls 2 had a sense of traveling the country, but the areas themselves felt short and not very worthwhile in themselves with the exception of the DLC.

Dark Souls 3 on the other hand had the feeling of travel, AND good areas AND retained a sense of spatial awareness to remind you where you are in relation to the rest of the world.
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>>160368476
>Not know who Jund is
>Content with weapons regardless if some no name youtuber
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Would a valiant pyro care to help my glass-cannon sorcerer with alderich? PC pass is yamz
Put your sign outside the fog gate
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>>160368568
I don't even watch his videos. I had a guy link me it after I invaded him calling me a metafag because of that cancer.
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>his vicar isn't thicc
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Why do people shit on the undead match?
It's probably the best PVP I have in all of Souls.
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>>160368568
He's a DS Youtuber/streamer with less than 100k subs on Youtube that always manages to trigger people on here.
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>>160368761
Vicars are dead friend
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>>160368761
t. Patrick O'McPatty
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>>160368810
It's literally an inferior version of 1's with working matchmaking
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>>160369135
1 didn't have cool shit like brawls and spawn protecting wrath of gods and stuff.
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>>160367641
>>160368027
I haven't really been on /dsg/ much so I haven't seen any jund hate
but man I'm glad I'm not the only one who can't stand that guy. His general attitude to other people and just opinions that aren't his own really annoys me. I sure hope he never finds out about my build.
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>>160368659
You were t-posing for me. I couldn't enter the boss fog
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i fucking hate reactive faggots rrrrrRRRREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
this shitty fucking nigger game is not good for my health
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sorry WC, my connection is poopy. Want to try again?
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>>160369306
Please do
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>Snagged a PS4, Bloodborne, and Destiny from a guy for $100 as he was trying to sell it to gamestop for $90

Anything I need to know about Bloodborne before trying it out for the first time?
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>>160368568
He's a guy who really makes you think.
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>>160369525
You can't hack in BB
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>>160369525
Go into it blind
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>>160369604
>exactly what Otz said when Scott got b&
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>>160369604
That was probably the most retarded thing he's said so far.
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>>160369412
M8, you fukken rock. I recognized your name, you have helped me with 2 different character on 2 separate occasions. Thank you very much
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>>160369779
is his character a witch called Safety? if so, he's done the same for me tons of times
really cool dude
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>>160368982
:-)
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So what can I do to avoid getting banned by using CE?

Wanna make some new exotic memebuilds but I really don't want to run the game for the 12th time.
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>>160369525

Use any weapon except for the Saw Cleaver.
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>>160369604
Made me think alright.
Made me think how fucking stupid that comment was.
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>>160369961
thicker
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>>160369902
Its a witch, but of a different name
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>>160369961
why does that butt look like it has a ghastly face
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how do i get ez hatemail
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>>160370307
play a turtle build, point down when you win

lots of people don't know how to deal with greatshields and don't have the patience
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>>160370408
but is that cancer enough to generate some rage?
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>>160370483
evidently:
>>160369301
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>8 vit
>always invading into 4 man ganksquads

fuck this game
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How is the gargoyle flame spear on base dex/faith/int and 40str ? Is quality required ?
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>>160370259
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I have Strength 40 and Faith 40
a pathetic 8 dexterity and 7 intelligence.

Any good weapons I can use?
It's pretty sad how not having points in dexterity basically locks you out of 95% of the weapons in the game or more.
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>>160371186
The shitty axe and the shitty hammer. Just get the Yharnam ring.
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>>160370483
>are greatshields cancer enough

Yes, greatshields are massively underrated because people think beating PvE shitters that use greatshields is an indication of how effective they are in PvP.

Use a Washing Pole and Havel GS or Wolf knight GS and just block and poke all day. There's no way you won't make someone furious with this combination.
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>>160370779
i really really hate this game's pvp
there's fucking no way in hell i'm gonna beat 4v1
hell i can't even beat 3v1
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>>160371370

Then twink.

Although that makes 1v3s too easy desu
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>>160367090

What weapon upgrade level?
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>>160369902
Safety is cute!
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>>160371882

+6.
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>>160371186
earthseeker + offhand rose of arandiel
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>>160372049

You think it's worth staying at? I'm SL56 +6 atm but I've heard a lot of people (peeve, iskys, etc) saying SL70 +8 is pretty much the ideal for invasions. Not sure if I should upgrade or not, I want to avoid professional ganks with seeds.
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>>160372049
STR obliterates people during invasions
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>Back up to heal and hopefully pull mobs, not even running away, just putting enough distance to heal safely
>Host claps
>Kill his phantoms and blue
>Lose because I don't have enough estus
>Host claps and points down
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>>160371727
recommend me a build senpai
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greatshield and washing pole isnt working for hatemail, what do i use now
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>>160372280
I clap at random intervals every fight. Rolling from gestures is cancer but if From allows it, then I'll abuse it
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>>160372164
>+ offhand rose of arandiel
I really would have liked to try out the rose of ariandel. But it requires 12 dexterity.
You really can't use shit when playing a pure strength/faith build. I am going to upgrade the earthseeker though and see how that thing fares.
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> people on Steam bitching that people use Estus Flasks when getting invaded
If you don't want that shit to happen, don't give them time to do it, fucking retards.
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>>160372258

I really need to get around to finishing my SL56 (getting all of the estus and undead bone shards) but I've been busy with my SL130 in NG+. Hope to have some webms with Spear Chucker by the end of the week.

There's nothing quite like doing hit and runs and dragging a 1v3 through the whole level and winding up with the host getting separated from the group by the spider things leading to his demise.
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>>160372451
Only greatshield with offhand chime and pyroflame.
Attune surge and heal/regen spells
Time out every arena match
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Is there no enemy that can normally drop titanite slabs?
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>>160372626
but surge is shit now
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One of the things I loved about ds2 was how you could have 5 or 6 greatshields in your pack, each one infused to 100% block a specific element, like 100% magic, fire or dark.

Are there any shields, either tower or smaller that can be infused to 100% block elemental damage in ds3?
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>>160372692
Black Iron infused with fire, not 100% tho but pretty close
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>>160372685
I meant fire surge, not acid
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I just got a new computer

Does anyone know where the character presets for DS3 are saved?
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>>160372497
Just get the Hunter or Milk ring bruh
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>>160372451
I don't really see hatemail anymore in DaSIII. I've almost get hatemail by people adding me on steam but I don't see the notification until later and by the time I do add them they don't care anymore.
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>>160372762
would it just be better to use a ccs or a follower sabre
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>>160372451
Can't have the frail egos of steam kiddies hurt
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can someone explain the four kings shitposter meme to me
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>>160370025
Asking again can anyone halp?
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>>160372781
You mean the save itself ?

C:\Users\(You)\AppData\Roaming\DarkSoulsIII

If that's not what you're talking about then I don't know
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>>160372910
No, that's regular metashit. People run into those all day.
You need to be unique and annoying to get mail
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>>160372869
I got legit 5 invites in one hour by playing a healing caster with a long sword and spear in the arena at sl125.
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>>160373064
then i need to use the most degenerate of builds possible
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>>160372589
You tell 'em, champ
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>>160373175
If you can't get hatemail with washing pole/greatshield you don't deserve hatemail.
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>>160373345
i was invading at anor londo should i try the arena
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>>160373058
I meant the character's appearance that you can save as a favorite

I have them now so i managed to do something right
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>>160373418
Of course. I'm surprised you weren't trying there in the first place.

Don't forget to run the timer down if you're losing.
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>>160373540
that pretty devilish anon, how much hatemail have you gotten
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Where do I find Friede's clothes?
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>>160373763
I'm wearing them. I guess you'll have to take them for me and leave me wearing nothing at all
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>>160373906
Don't mind if i do
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>>160373763
>friede down in the basement killing another champion of ash
>swiftly sneak in and steal friede's underwear from her laundry, and then skip off towards a comfy rot bed to masturbate
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>>160371186
Spy is that you?
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why did from remove the alt f4 fade out present in ds2
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>>160374315
The what?
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>>160374442
go in dark souls 2 and alt f4, the screen fades to black before closing
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>>160372258

>gabriel reyes
>washing pole

kek

>>160372227

There's a difference between ''just wanting to being able to invade as many areas/much as possible'' and being optimally geared for a certain area, since you can invade people much higher level than you, but only a little bit downwards. At SL50/+6 in Pre-Irityhll you will predominantly catch SL45-50 people with +4/+5 weapons who just got out of Smouldering Lake/Catacombs. SL56 might be a bit too high, that's more an SL for Aldritch stuff, but you could try.

>>160372328

Pic related is my approved twink build for when you really want to win those 1v4s. Upgrade weapons to +3 and invade in the Undead Settlement. Also make sure you have around 10-12 +7/+8 Estus and Gold Pine Resin for your axe.

If you want to switch things up you could use the Rotten Ghru Spear + Rotten Pine Resin. People will get poisoned in 3-4 hits, and 90% of them don't have moss clumps in the Undead Settlement yet, nor enough Estus to keep outhealing it.
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>>160374489
Wow, one more amazing thing DaS 2 bought and they removed because Miyazaki can do no wrong.
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>>160374614
it wasnt particularly amazing but it was neat
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>>160374595
sweet, i'll try it out
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FC WHERE?
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>>160375359
Nowhere, I banned them and you
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>>160373763
The Shrine Handmaiden sells them after you kill her.
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>>160365186
>I've never been indicted

fucking normie bandwagoners
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>>160375285

Also make sure to wear armour in every slot. Your flat defence will turn you into a tank.
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>>160374614
Miyazaki's train of thought:

>people really liked dark souls 1, I should make another, but instead I won't focus on it and do another project
>some people had mixed feelings about dark souls 2, it was definitely everyones fault but mines, nothing to do with me not focusing on it
>even though it still had majority positive reviews, i will just forget it ever happened
>i created a good Sonyâ„¢ exclusive game, people really liked this one! i knew im a genius
>hmm time for dark souls 3, well i better just abandon everything from before since people really liked Bloodborneâ„¢ so I will just make a clone and call it dark souls 3
>wow what went wrong things aren't going as expected why don't people love my Bloodborne 2.0 game like they did dark souls 1?
>fuck it I'll blame bamco
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>>160374595
>SL56 might be a bit too high, that's more an SL for Aldritch stuff, but you could try.

Some anon basically figured out that 56 is better than 55 with a wider invasion range which is why I went with that, and yeah I mainly invade pre- and post-pontiff, and the DLC. It's fun.

Main change I made was that I was doing +5 before and now I'm +6.
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>>160375702

Forgot pic
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I'm making a thumbnail for a youtube video, is there any way I can get a transparent image of the DaSIII bow aiming reticle?
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>>160375593
blame the retarded redditors, steam kiddies and the "pillars of the community" on twatch for sperging on ds2

I hope they're enjoying those offhand blocks
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>invaded the world of Guts
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>>160373009
some faggot shitposted the general for about 2 years. it was mainly anger directed towards certain drawfag who liked 4 kings a lot, as well as 4 kings themselves. he spiced it up some times by reminiscing of the old dsg namefaggots and attention whores, sporadically also praising menas. this is only a fragment of the autism
https://boards.fireden.net/vg/search/text/4cunts/
https://boards.fireden.net/vg/search/text/deviantfart/
he also went as far to make a collection of 4kings fanart (most of them with other people's insignia on them, all of them varying art styles), cram them into a pseudo-deviantart account and claim it was that drawfag, urging dsg to "raid her". the account was drogenvahn or something similar
truly a pitiful and damaged human bean
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>>160376293
I'm still playing the superior game that is 1, with more players than 2 has too
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>>160368546
It took me quite a while to realize that the town you see from 1-1 is the tutorial area in Demon's Souls.

And yes, I loved the feeling of proper travel you get from going through the Road of Sacrifices in 3, especially when it starts to sink in after a playthrough or two that the highway bit near Farron Keep is one of the highways that were leading into the mountain housing the core of Lordran back in the day.

I really appreciated the mix of countryside and ruined buildings/forts as well as great spatial awareness that the Road of Sacrificea offered.
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>>160375565
jesus christ anon that was a massacre
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>>160376431
I'm glad 4kings fag is gone for good now
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>>160376293
>"pillars of the community" on twatch for sperging on ds2
>implying they arn't promoting it
>This austitic mouth breathing faggot loling him self to death at his DaS2 trump memes
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DWrbu4xQWdI

Yeah DaS2 is full of some quality shit
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>>160343630
cant u skip deacons altogether if u glitch the game?
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>>160376503
>the highway bit near Farron Keep is one of the highways that were leading into the mountain housing the core of Lordran back in the day.

u wot m8
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>>160376152
Aim at a black surface.
Take a screenshot.
Open up image in gimp.
Layers->Transparency->add Alpha channel
Select the elements you want
Reverse selection.
Delete.
Save as png.
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>>160369525
Same anon here.

it just go ished updating and I started it up. All I can think is:
HOW THE FUCK CAN PEOPLE PLAY AT THIS FRAME RATE? I CAN SEE THE CAMERA STUTTERING AROUND AND THE GAME LOOKS LIKE IT IS JUST JITTERING
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>>160377169
Don't have gimp, will photoshop do?
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>>160376971
Look at the DaS1 intro where it shows Lordran from above.

It shows 3 highways connecting to the mountain where Anor Londo resides.

The elevated Highway that connects High Wall and Undead Settlement is one of those but fallen in a state of disrepair and parts of it crumbled away.
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Is laggy longsword R1 spam still pretty much all I'm going to find in invasions?
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How's morne's hammer?

I'm bored of mlgs with flash sword
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>>160376542

Thanks.
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>>160376431
Was the person who left all those messages on enb's youtube channel about him having gone to rehab from here? I admire both the dedication and the effort to piss off that Bamco shill.
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>>160377573
no, after carthus you'll also find laggy ccs r1 spam
>>160377609
it can be ok if you build around it. if you want a morne cosplay, tough luck
>I'm bored of mlgs with flash sword
>bored of magic knight
>aka the funnest, flashiest and bestest way to play
huh?
>>
pcfcbf
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>>160377797
I find the mlgs has shitty abilities so it ends up as a mediocre greatsword. Kinda feels like a waste to put so much into INT when I don't actually use many spells. What spells do you use?
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>>160377797
MLGS looks like shit and have the same boring moveset
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>>160367641

> be jund
> pick literally any weapon in game, make video on it
> dsg autist claims "his weapon" weapon is stolen
> omg what a cancer amirite
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Is Chaos infusion ok?
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>>160378413
Sure, but dark is better
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dank infusion xD
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>>160378568
r u ok ?
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>>160378413

Literally useless because Dark exists.
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>>160378184
Flashsword, dart and css. Been thinking to check crystal hail, i heard it was changed. But I haven't touched ds3 in a while
>>160378405
>stolen
Bruh, jund's bid has 2 effects: 1) all the retards will flock to 2) people will accuse anon of mindlessly following the "meta"
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>>160378478
>>160378713
Chaos is better for PvE almost every time and is also better versus faith and pyros.
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newfag here

how do i beat aldritch
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>>160378841
Fire
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>>160378841
Because Aldritch is "deep" he is weak to wooden weapons. Use the great wooden hammer for an easy kill.
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>>160378405
Well he did a pretty good job of ruining an entire school of spell casting. Every pyro I see now is a braindead black flame spamming faggot.
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>>160370097
What's wrong about the saw cleaver aside from it being the posterboy weapon every scrub goes for on their first playthrough and its meh scaling?
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>>160379118
It's as mindless as SS in 1.
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>>160379152
Meant to say 3.
Or compare it to rapiers in 2 .
It's the mark that someone is a retard in PvE just spamming whatever requires no effort
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>>160379118

It's the Drake Sword, except it carries you through the whole game. Think DaSIIIs Dark Sword, but on steroids.

Easily the strongest (and most dull) weapon in the game.
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>>160377609
>>160378259
You are boring shit, kys, MLGS deserves better than you.
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>>160369525
shooting dogs sends them flying
dodge forward and behind enemies instead of away from them
Defiled Amy is easier solo
>>
Guy on ps4 available to help lads for DS3
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>>160377256
Nevermind, figured it out using some strange icon editor tool that probably just gave me malware.
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>>160379369
>>160379276
Hold on this actually makes sense.
It was included in all the promotional materials so that shitters would select it because they saw it on TV and attain an easy mode.
shoulda done the opposite FROM
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>main hand 1: Gargoyle FS
>main hand 2: Crow Quills
>Off hand 1: Black Knight Shield
>Off hand 2: Estoc

Am I pokey enough yet, /dsg/?
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>>160379561
Kill yourself tranny
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>>160379797
You wish.
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>>160379697
Nigga, the cover armor and weapons are always the shitter armor and weapons, except in 3 and only because you can't get it soon enough
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Why have I not seen a single estoc in weeks?
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Is it possible to do fight clubs with just red signs?
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>>160380012
LOL ESTOC LOL META LOL 4DUDES LOOKING EXACTLY THE SAME BODY BLOCKING
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>>160380212
How else would you do it?
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>>160380237

T-thanks for clearing that up
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Anyone up for a PS4 Fight Club? I'll host.
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>>160380558
There are very few ps4 players far too often here. Try asking /bbg/ too just so you've got more chances of success
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>>160380673
>There are very few ps4 players far too often here
t. Pcuck
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>>160379727
>tfw trying to fight people using gargoyle FS
>when I'm using lothric knight spear
what an infuriating experience that is
even when I win I feel nothing from it but sadness and endless poking and spacing games.
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>>160380813
That is true though, most of /dsg/ plays on PC
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>>160380558
I'd be down, where?
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>>160380813
>>160380673
Pretty unfortunate 2bh
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the fuck is this icon
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Loki Prime assaulting the City of Damascus during the Second Crusade [1148 A.D., colorized]
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>>160380974
He's a shitter
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i wish you could fuck with spells in ds3 like you could in ds2
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>>160380974
Please respond.
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>>160381091
I wish ascetics still existed
>>
>>160381091
yea I sure loved seeing some wuh-ACKY spells every other invasion by someone fucking with the projectile table
>>
>fighting in arena
>good duel so far
>get low hp
>i can do this
>land a few hits
>he immediately starts lobbing knives
>not even attacking anymore, just rolling away from me and throwing them
>must have thrown like 30
>fuck this
>walk behind pillar
>heal to full hp
>beat his ass

you brought this on yourself
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>>160381961
I never understand this or firebombs. It's certainly not a positioning tool because I can roll wherever I want to away from it, and it won't be towards your dumb ass unless I'm confident in my spacing. And it's certainly not a damage dealing tool either because how do you expect anyone to get hit by that shit?
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>>160369604
>trump getting assassinated
>making his insane running mate Mike Pence president
nah dude
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>>160382659
>TFW that cool ass outfit is a pain in the ass to get
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>>160380813
t. I pay to play online with the internet service I already pay for
>>
>>160382492
I use firebombs occasionally. Good for pressure and chip damage.
>>
is t. Claire still a thing
>>
>>160383269
t. Claire
>>
>>160383269
Do you want it to be?
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>>160341316

firekeeper a cute. CUTE.
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>>160383610
Very cute!!
>>
How do I not-get banned in DS3 while using Cheat Engine?
>>
Do covenant offerings carry over through game cycles? I'm on +4 about to go to +5, and I know you get two ears per cycle, meaning the 5th will put me at 10, but I only have 2 on me right now. If it's the case that I just donated 6 already, do they stay in the bank?
>>
>tfw dlc2 wont have paired repeating crossbows
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>tfw fucking invincible
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>>160383976
>TFW dlc won't have the coolest armour in the series, the Giants set
>>
>>160384002
>40 vig
39 gives you 1801, which means you'll never need more than 3 flasks to fully heal (since you need 1 hp to be not-dead and each flask heals 600). The 40th level also gives less health than 39 and 38 iirc (which are identical). You get 1401 unembered with what you have though.
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>summon phantom for aldritch
>he gets OHKO before the phase shift
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>>160383045
I'm more angry that we can't have the helm hair.
>>
My friend wants me to get Dark Souls. Can this be realistically played co-op?
>>
>>160384628
Yeah kinda, though it consumes an item to be able to summon allies which needs to be reused each time you die, and you'd have to beat bosses in both of your worlds (ie do everything twice)
>>
>tfw beat Friede first try
Not bad.
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>>160384002
No, I am.
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>>160384941
>when you beat Gundyr second try
Not bad.
>>
>>160384941

SL and what new game?
>>
>>160385260
80 and NG++
It was a good fight. Ran out of estus at the end.
>>
>>160385334

Good job son.
>>
Quick, I need a name for my paladin character!
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>>160385790
cooldude
>>
>>160385790
Korodera
>>
>>160385790
@
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>>160385790
Tiddle Diddle
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>>160383898
Yes.
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>>160385790
Scottjund
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>>160385790
Zapper Slapper
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>>160385790

t.Claire
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>>160383610
I agree
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>>160387335
SOURCE NIGGER
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>>160387335
>censoring feet
Dude
>>
Are things easier to "know" in DaS2 in comparison to 1? Like, I wouldnt know for shit that I had to use that ring to make Gwyn statue disappear or, that I had to use that other ring and then drop from some stairwell to fight the Four Kangz.

I just finished DaS1 and gonna start 2 in about an hour, but I want to know if I can really find about most stuff without looking a some wiki or something.
>>
>>160387335
is that krekk0v
>>
>>160388064
das2 is the worst of the series when it comes to intuition failing you

so no, just keep the das2 wiki open at all times
>>
>>160388064

You will never get the pick. You will never know that tseldora spiders hate torchlight
>>
>>160388543
>>160388614
Man, i'm eager as hell to equip some shitty item I got 10 hours ago on some random location to see if something happen

But no, seriously, cant wait to play this shit, I beat DaS1 soloing every boss so I'm feeling powerful as fuck right now. Great game lads
>>
Is the butcher knife the closest weapon that resembles the Capra demon's weapon from DaS1?
>>
>>160388845
>I beat DaS1 soloing every boss
Wow
Nice to see some people are really attempting the no-summon challenge run.
>>
>level 48
>weapon +6
>zero summon signs outside Dancer

Am I really that under-leveled?
>>
>>160388845
>>160388987
it doesn't count if you used a greatshield
>>
>>160388987
I summonded Solaire in the gargoyles fight but then when we beat it in less than 2 minutes I felt so unimpressed I started the game again. Almost did it again in O&S but I resisted the urge and felt great when I killed those shits solo, and also killing Ornstein last.

>>160389046
Never used
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>>160340205
It wasn't DaS3. But your image reminds me of my favourite DaS2 bug.
I once loaded up DaS2, and my computer had something of a hickup, so the game loaded the levels but it did not load any enemies, NPCs, or doors.

So I just waltzed through and sequence broke like 80% of the game. Quit. And reloaded and everything loaded perfectly, but I had still skipped like 80% of the game.
>>
>>160387335
sauce, new thread when
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>>160389215
lying is immoral
>>
>>160389464
What do you mean senpai
Greatshields looked kinda shit so I just used the Crest one
>>
>>160389592
sounds exactly what i expected a gsfag to say
>>
>>160387426
>>160389426
Drawfriend over on /aco/
>>>/aco/999010
>>>/aco/999052
>>>/aco/1000673
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>>160389717
I'm new to the circlejerk on this general for now, my negro

Help me fit in, I dont want to go to leddit
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>>160389910
greatshield + thrusting sword
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>>160390074
I bet I still cant use them with my 16 STR
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>>160390274
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>>160385790
Boone
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>>160390498
Oh nice
Bumped my str to 16 just to use my claymorefu and didnt bother with anything else but my crest shield. Is the Elite Knight set a scrub thing or is it really good? because I just farmed chunks to keep that shit at +9
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>>160384628
Definitely. DS1 is so dead you won't get accidentally summoned by the wrong person.
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>>160390814
ek armor is noob as fuck but it's also the most aesthetic set on top of having one of the highest defense:weight:fashion ratio, and does have nice poise at 46 or so.

midrolling giant set + father mask is better.
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>>160391048
I see
Im lvl102 using the Elite set, +15 claymore, crest shield, the favour and the chloranthy ring, with 12 faith. I kinda got raped by invaders in the dlc area for now tho. But I dont think i'll go back to using that havel set, since it kinda feels cheating some bosses. Elite set looks fashion and canon af
>>
how much did the patch help halberds?

is 40/40 or 66 strength the best way to go for gundyrs halberd
>>
FC WHERE
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Fresh from the oven

>>160391529
>>160391529
>>160391529
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