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Dueling Network/Yu-Gi-Oh! General #2364

Last thread: >>159937268

Not Lucifer Edition

● YGOPro is an automated simulator.
● DN is ded.
YGOPro (Windows): https://docs.google.com/uc?id=0B6B7GsCVf45zRUZnVHJid0N0eHc&export=download
YGOPro (Mac): https://mega.nz/#!fREAVBwZ!cOQG_5oHFKgjfwz4dVUtAW88w9gqRrvWyeFZ7zI_bVM
http://www.ygopro.co/Forum/tabid/95/g/posts/t/23339/The-Ultimate-HQ-Card-Project (High Quality YGOPro images)

Useful Links:
Current Official Rulebook, last updated 6/27/15:
http://www.yugioh-card.com/en/rulebook/EN_SDSE_Rulebook.pdf
Wiki with a wealth of information for the players:
http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Main_Page
Yu-Gi-Oh! stock market:
http://yugiohprices.com/
OCG decklists:
http://blog.livedoor.jp/yugioh_tpr/
https://ocg.xpg.jp/v/deck/event.html
TCG decklists:
http://yugiohtopdecks.com/decklists
TCG/OCG news sites:
https://ygorganization.com/
http://blog.livedoor.jp/maxut/
Hypergeometric Probability Calculator:
http://yugioh.party/
Official /dng/ ruling test:
https://testmoz.com/466984

Upcoming Sets:
●OCG: Booster SP: Fusion Enforcers (November 12th)
●OCG: Dimension Box Limited Edition (November 26th)
●OCG: Pendulum Evolution (December 23rd)

●TCG: Destiny Soldiers (November 17th)
●TCG: Pendulum Domination (January 20th)

Before asking to be spoonfed, try the following:
● READ THE OP.
● Read the cards.
● Lurk and read the archives.
● Google your deck before you post it here. If your deck is/was competitive it will probably have topped an event, see the provided links above.
● Most games have single rounds or a best of three match; matches are encouraged as they teach you to make use of your side deck for tournament play.
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>>160044650
>>160044829
>>160045503
>>160060049

http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm29359866
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>>160059346
You don't make money off of people playing old shit though.
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>>160060321
Eh, could have been worse, it's still Lucifer.
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>>160019613

This is it, extra deck is obvious + q few rank 10s

3 fairy
3 red
3 blue
3 green
3 field
1 super quant sword
2 Terraforming
1 reasoning
1 one for one
1 foolish b
1 soul charge
2 limit reverse
1 yubel
1 yubel v2
1 yubel v3
1 ra
1 phoenix ra
1 sphere ra
3 heavenly squire (edea)
2 underworld squire
1 trick clown
1 malefic cyber dragon
3 call of the haunted
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>>160060783
I'm sorry that you still haven't discovered reprints WOTC.
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>>160060783
Also, that's implying that the people who play for fun don't just use the most competitive decks, since winning is the most fun.
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15th Eternal reminder that Red-Eyes is the best Dragon Bro.
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Twinkle Twinkle Little Star~~
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>>160061537
Is her deck expensive? Tell mw about it (and her)
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>>160061714
>TWINKle littlestar
>Her
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>>160045443
Someone please
I need more like these
I know there's a hero one
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>>160061771
you have to go back
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TM1s_tuGHDs
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>>160061775
still waiting on the update
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>>160062023
>Abyss ACTOR
>Implying either Pretty Heroine or Twinkle Littlestar aren't ACTORS playing the part of women
They're Onnagata and you know it.
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>>160062023
Well they used to make little boys put on dresses to create girl characters
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>>160062023
Would you tell me about her than (pls) since that guys a faggot
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I am onto something
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So OCG put BLS at 2 to coincide with the BLS support and it's not doing anything.
How much longer until they put this at 2 or even 3?
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>>160062595
I bet you wasn't alive when Chaos Dragons feat. Max Gustav OTK was a thing because I remember it well and I miss it
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>>160061537
How I wanna wreck that cunny~~
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>>160062760
>I bet you wasn't alive when Chaos Dragons feat. Max Gustav OTK was a thing
Yeah, 4 years ago.
Chaos Dragons are extinct now and only way to bring them back is Future Fusion and even that won't be enough since Infernoids will abuse that better.
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>>160060863
>>160060863
Cool pic.
Does Buster Blader wear a helmet or is that his 'face'?
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>>160062384
Oh I noticed that mask change isn't normal
Should I replace it with what?
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>>160062760
I bet you weren't either, because Gustav was not TCG legal when Chaos Dragons were a thing, and OCG used Gustav in Hieratics decks instead.
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Post cards that are literally you.
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>>160060863
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>>160063156
>because Gustav was not TCG legal when Chaos Dragons were a thing, and OCG used Gustav in Hieratics decks instead.
Thanks for the trip down memory lane. 2011-2013 has got to be the prime of dragon decks.
You had Disaster Dragon, Hopeless Dragon, Chaos Dragons, Hieratics and then finally Dragon Rulers to cap it all off.
It's a shame the banlist/powercreep killed all these decks, RIP.
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I was the guy asking about Phantom Knights from the last thread, how is this?
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>>160063506
Full power Blue-Eyes would shit on all of those.
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>>160063171
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>>160063684
BE is at full power right now.
It doesn't shit on anything.
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>>160063506
>shame
That's one thing you could call it, yeah.
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>>160063870
/dng/ never ceases to amaze me; biggest retards I've ever seen on this site.
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>>160063507
This is the only good Phantom Knight deck
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>>160063958
I can't tell if you're agreeing with me or you're claiming that BE somehow isn't at full power.
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>>160064201
>Blue-Eyes doesn't shit on anything
It's already been powercreeped but to say it's a bad deck is retardation beyond words.
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>>160064331
>been powercreeped
>not a shit deck
And you're calling other people retarded?
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>>160064452
>If it's not top tier then it's shit
Keep on amazing me /dng/.
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>>160063684
Isn't Lithium having another Cross-banlist cup soon?
We can have him test the matchups for us.
I can see Blue-eyes having equal match ups to most dragon decks bar Dragon Rulers since that deck is stupid.
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>>160064008
Oh hang on that one is outdated.
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>>160064331
Where did i say it was a bad deck?
I said it doesn't shit on anything.
Yosenjus aren't a bad deck, but they don't shit on anything.
Madolches aren't a bad deck, but they don't shit on anything.
Fluffals aren't a bad deck, but they don't shit on anything.

These decks have no hits, so they are at full power, and are irrelevant, just like BE.
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>>160064512
That is factually how it works.
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>Kaiser Colosseum is at 0
what banned it again?
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>>160064565
Calling something irrelevant is the same as calling it a bad deck.
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>>160064912
asf needs to go
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>>160064452
the comparison was made towards disaster dragons
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>>160064331
I love how Konami's new set rotation system changes the meta instead of the banlist.
ABCs pushed out Blue-eyes and then Zodiacs pushed out ABC.
Now we wait for MAXC or the new Pendulum SD to see what happens.
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>>160065006
Every floodgate trap should go to 1
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>>160065006
Cry more shitter

>>160065031
>new
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>>160064732
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>>160065031
I still have no idea what makes Zodiacs so good. In fact, Zodiacs aren't good, Marmorat is. A big old one card combo is apparently that great?
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>>160048370
L8 as fuck, there's no signal out here. You don't need Rat to do PKKM, just Hiruko. But Hiruko is probably coming with Rat in RATE so yeah, Rock Stunshit ft. Ties until then.
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>>160065249
Same case with ABC.
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>>160064803
>Says Blue-eyes could shit on Dragon Rulers
>Calls me a retard for saying a deck that hasn't topped in weeks in the OCG and is being ditched for the more consistent and viable BA and ABC decks in the TCG is irrelevant

Before you say b-b-but i d-didn't say that..!
or
W-wasn't me ;^)
Read the comment you/that retard fucking replied to
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>>160065243
dont post bad cards from bad decks
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>>160065440
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>>160065249
It is when you can guaranteedly pull it off more than eighty-five percent of the time and it gives you the only things that matter
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>>160065393
And how many tops has Dragon Rulers had lately you metric retard? Blue-Eyes shits on Dragon Rulers. Kill yourself.
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>>160063507
You're on the right track, more or less. I would cut something to fit 3x Solemn strike (maybe the Raiden engine or Math).

Here are some sample builds from this format.

http://yugiohtopdecks.com/deck/5460 (Gofu Knights with the hippo engine)

http://yugiohtopdecks.com/deck/5432 (a HERO variant)

And Pure: http://yugiohtopdecks.com/deck/5429

I recommend trying the Gofu build as it was crafted by the same guy who got 2nd place at a YCS (forgot the name) only to lose to ASF.

>>160064559
No offense but your build isn't even close to good, it's terrible.
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>>160065575
What cards do i need
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>>160065249
Big boards and very strong traps are enough to beat most decks these days.
The disruption from Drancia combined with Strikes/Barrier is too good.
>>160065393
>or saying a deck that hasn't topped in weeks in the OCG and is being ditched for the more consistent and viable BA and ABC decks in the TCG is irrelevant
Blue-eyes literally topped today at the Alann cup according to Maxut and before ABC it was topping above Burning Abyss.
It even got 3 tops in the top 32 at the UDS El Salvador a few days ago.
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>>160065639
>non exsistant vs exsistant.
24 card pure drulers core would beat be
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>>160065723
Rat searcher.
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>>160065653
Thanks anon.
Here, have a Break Sword.
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>>160065863
Dragon Rulers can't even beat PePe.
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>>160065376
It's nothing like ABC.
In a ABC deck you don't use shitty cards like XYZ-Dragon Cannon just because those cards are part of the same archetype.
That's what anon is talking about, what is the point of the cards that are not Rat?
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>>160065995
What's the point of Photon Thrasher, Silver Gadget, Gold Gadget, and Terraforming in ABC?
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>>160065995
I think they mean ABC dies in fire without their field spell
It's also an essential part of their combo as well as consistency
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>>160065967
Its more like a rps than progression. Drulers were alway otk though, and win in one turn
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>>160065863
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>>160065967
Neither can BE, but how is that any sort of argument between DRulers VS BE?
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>>160066085
Help you summon ABC.
Viper and Horse are supposed to extend the combo, not to start it, much like other decks.
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>it's a dragonfags shit up the thread episode
Funny enough Buster Blader is next in line for support in MAXC so your Dragon Rulers, Chaos Dragons, Blue-eyes and Hieratics are even more dead than they already are after MAXC
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>>160065967
Give it time
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>>160066568
yeah and red-eyes surpassed blue-eyes in INOV
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>>160066635
>red doing anything
no need to lie jo
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Battle Wasps fucking when
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>>160066582
What is this?
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>>160066520
There you go.
Combo extender is important because you can't finish the opponent with 0/0 Drancia.
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>>160066635
They gained an FTK and a huge consistency boost didn't they?
Makes you wonder how will Konami even the scales in the set after MAXC which is meant to support Blue-eyes if patterns follow.
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>>160066582
kek, theorybuilding meets CaC: the webm
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>>160066828
Ok
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>>160066821
Your own private hell
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Some jap's take on Subterrors

http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm30031887
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>>160067007
>what is the point of the cards that are not Rat?
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>>160067154
Yeah a deck of 40 Rats and no ED will beat everything every time
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I don't know what the deal is with this image, but i'm gonna post it anyways.
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>>160067154
>The same of Photon Thrasher, Silver Gadget, Gold Gadget, and Terraforming, extending the combo because ABC-Dragon Buster can't win by itself.
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>>160067237
I suggest you take another look at the reply chain.
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>>160066821
http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm27644715
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>>160061537
Hoping she gets art, I like my petdeks with some fanart.
Pretty Heroine can use more too.
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>>160063171
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>>160067271
The fact that Kaito got weird deja vu when Edo said his monster was called Utopia was really cool.
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>>160067532
Hush, Blue.
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>>160067475
>Literally a quote of everyting said
>Hurrr, read
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>literally a quote
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How can I improve? This is using my IRL cards so I can't use the stuff not released yet, and I only really play casual irl so I don't really want to get the super expensive cards (crystal wing and desires). I won my first game to ABC then lost the next 3, should I just be trying it against different decks?
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>>160067892
Stop damaging control and go full circle already, retard, I'm waiting you to say what you want to say to point you back to the first post.
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>>160067621
>>160063171
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>>160068135
IMO Tell is garbage
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>>160068135
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>>160068149
I'm saying that running a deck with 40 Rat is shit.
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>>160068326
Well yeah, I don't think I ever used it in real life but I just chucked it in cause I had space and three of them
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>>160068135
You might just want to wait for the structure deck to come out.
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Is there a reason you can't activate flip effects when attacked in YGOPRO?
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>>160068418
>NS Rat, dump Rat
>Overlay into Bow
>Overlay into Tigress, detach Bow to SS Rat
>Overlay into Bullhorn, detach Tigress to SS Rat
>Overlay into Drancia, detach Bullhorn to SS Rat
>Make Shock Master
You've just made a deck with a 100% chance to go into Shock Master turn 1.
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>>160068858
Attacked by Armades? The Lightning?
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>>160068874
Too bad Shock Master is banned.
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>>160068874
Shock Master isn't that good desu. Unless you can summon 3 of them
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>>160068936
Yep fuck, nevermind then
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>>160068975
And shit. Turn 1 shock ruler is always bad.
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>>160068135
Not sure if troll or just stupid.
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>>160069041
But it's not just turn 1, you can repeat that whole process if you didn't use Drancia, but this time summoning 4 Rats off detaching.
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How do I make this better?
Should I just stop trying to do Redox grandsoil.dek again and try naturia stun?
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>>160065653
>a BLS deck is terrible
What a shocking fact you have uncovered.
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>>160069361
I think there might be some Superheavy Samurai that could help a deck like this
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>>160069223
Mate no need to be a wanker, I haven't played in over a decade and I'm just getting back into it
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>>160069273
>next turn
>the only disruption you have is Shock Master and 0/0 Drancia
Are you sure there's next turn?
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>>160069361
Add Rat
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>>160063171
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>>160069527
Yeah wait for the DDD Structure Deck to come out in January. It will bring a lot of cards that make the deck playable.
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>>160069527
K.

Take off the Hatricker, the Dust Tornado, the Dark Bribe, the Galileis and you are already halfway. Put another Kepler, another Abyss Ragnarok, Where Arf Thou, One for One.

I would give more tips but I don't have a decklist nor do I know the name of most cards you are using that you weren't supposed to.
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>>160069361
add rats + weird als
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>>160063171


>>160067141
Thanks anon. Chao Infinity looks like a great tech for Subterrors. It's a shame we won't be getting Raideen until February.
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>>160069728
Well, it is meta viable right now. Then again, nothing is as consistent as ABC right now.
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>>160069978
Caligula is classy as fuck.
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>>160070054
Eh, I'd more likely call it meta possible. They're not quite on the verge of pet deck yet.
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>>160070054
>Well, it is meta viable right now.
Hardly.
>Then again, nothing is as consistent as ABC right now.
Except BA.
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>>160070257
Fair enough. Then again, a bunch of decks are meta possible right now. Heard a nigga topped with a Dark Magician
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post lightsworn dick
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>>160069583
>>160069931
Zodiac rat?
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>>160070331
Two, I think. Crazy stuff.
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>>160070254
Caligula is Aleister
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>>160070391
lightsworn dick
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>>160070304
>BA
>As viable as ABC
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>>160070331
There are like 5 or 6 Dark Magician tops as of late.
1 guy got top 32 and another got top 4 at UDS El Salvador.
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>>160070483
You should learn to read better, that clearly says "consistent".
But yeah, i would argue viable too.
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>>160070483
I wish :(

>that horrible fucking feel when I've bubbled literally all 3 regionals I've played this season with BA
Just kill me please. There's only so much gitting gud can do against opening Taketomborg + all monsters 2/3 games, 4 rounds in a row :(
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Why doesn't anybody use this guy anymore?

I just tried him in my Last Strix deck and he's great.
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>>160070410
>summoner + summoned beast
>Doesn't summon beasts
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>>160070756
he summons them then gets fucked by demons in the ass and it's merged
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>>160070738
I forgot this card even existed desu
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>>160070584
Yeah, my bad
>>160070628
Anon, just change one or two cards in your deck. These 1~2 cards will make one hell of a difference. You don't even need to draw them, but just the fact you changed it will automatically make your deck better and brick less.
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>chemical monsters
>They're shit
It's not fair lads
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>>160070410
>>160070254
Caligula is cute!
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What are some modernish decks that are fun to play?

I'm just looking for a big list so I can fuck around randomy on YGOpro with them. I don't even care if they are super great
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>>160071326
Cloudians
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>>160071326
Give Dinomists a shot, they're very fun. Beatdown decks are always the greatest.
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What decks don't need their normal?
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>>160071326
shapesnatch otk.dek
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>>160071651
Kaiju
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>>160071651
Change Slime
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When the fuck will we start getting 5Ds support that isn't from Arc-V
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>>160071490
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>>160071990
after gx
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>>160072081
So soon? I mean, we've already received Monarchs, Darklords and Frogs.
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Why is everyone so smug this thread?
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>>160072292
Everything is the rat's fault.
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>>160072252
still plenty of others like amazons, gx chems, roids, hero variants, "fake" egypts (razi), more cyber, cryst beasts, neo
anticent gear has been covered
dinos soon with the structure
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When can we go back to a 4-5 deck meta?
Is it when DUEA 2 comes out after MAXC?
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>>160072674
>roids
You mean those shitty things Sho used with their amazing yet unsummonable boss monster? Please no.
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>>160072684
yes since the new anime should be going along at that time
its a maximum crisis since that anime is DM Super
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>>160072863
>DM Super
>Yugi combines with the Egyptian Gods, and they become one of the 4-5 meta decks
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>>160072292
Blame Rat.

Rat is the source of all problems and the solution of them all.

Rat is Alpha.

Rat is Omega.

Rat is.

Rat isn't.

Rat can do what Rat can't do.

Rat loves you.

Rat wants your flesh and blood.

You desire Rat.

You will be one with Rat.
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Where do I go from here?
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>>160072815
pay your respects for a future upgrade
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dqnGkidnTEU

plus since dlord was manga stuff; that could also mean going into their Getter variant this time around
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anyone can tell me how I change the animated background? it's hideous, and changing the .png does nothing now.

anyideas?
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>>160073501
Maybe it have something to do with bg file in your texture folder.
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>>160073570
as I said, I'm using my custom bg.jpg from my way old pro.

but the only thing that I've been able to change is my card "sleeves" (cover.jpg) and the audios of course.
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>>160073765
Are you sure there's no other file named bg in texture folder?
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>>160073501
Delete the other bg file. It's .ogv or something
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http://number11.xyz/what-is-a-scrub/

are you a scrub, /dng/?
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>>160073849
>>160073885
yeah, it was hidden, thanks guys.

now I want to know how I can do an animated one.
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>>160073237
rat
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>>160073945
>now I want to know how I can do an animated one.
Replace it just like when you want to change bg.
It should be ogv files though.
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Whats a deck that I can use this card in
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>>160074468
Cloudians feat. Rat
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>>160074468
UAs.
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>>160074468
Deskbots
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>>160074468
>doesn't block Xyz fully
Welp, I guess I can summon Rat, SS Drancia, and then pop it.

Most synchro (masturbation) deck can use it I guess.
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>>160070738
Cause discard 1 spell to ss 1 lvl4 mon is a shit effect. It doesnt set up a single good combo
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>>160071838
looks like migi
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>>160074717
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>>160074717
> can setup RAT
> shit effect
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>>160074981
not him but what spell are you discarding that wouldn't have gotten you rat anyway?
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>>160074981
>now you have 12+2/1 card to put Rat on field
>not counting the Bullhorn search Rat, discard Rat, attach with Drancia
A bit excessive, don't you think?
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>>160075152
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>>160075174
A bit excessive, don't you think?
no, I want draw 40 Rats in my opening hand.
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>>160075292
>not chaining twin twister to summoner so your discarding for both summoner and twin twister and get the effect of twin twister still
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>>160075309
Then use 3 Lullaby.
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>>160075391
forgot your Shun, here take mine
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>>160075391
>twin twister discards itself
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>>160070989
>Anon, just change one or two cards in your deck. These 1~2 cards will make one hell of a difference. You don't even need to draw them, but just the fact you changed it will automatically make your deck better and brick less.
The lists were vastly different each regional, with subtle changes spread out in the weeks between. I'd always breeze right on through Metalfoes, Blue-Eyes, and ABC, but I'd struggle with the more out-there matchups, like Fairies, Kozmo, and Majespecter. INOV then brought another high-tier hard counter in the form of Frogeozoics. Mained Cherries didn't do shit when they just shat all over my brick hands with Karma Cuts, BoMs, and MSTS backed by free dudes I couldn't even Farfa away.

I've already dropped the deck, it's just not good enough right now. I was a subpar BA pilot when I picked it up, sure, but by the time I really grasped the deck, it'd been crept out.
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>>160075720
no, you declare your discarding tt for monk, then that discard counts towards twin twisters and monks.
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>>160076014
>Twin twister discarding itself
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>Friend playing red eyes for the first time
>he specials a Gemini from deck
>Can't understand why I'm telling him to use his normal summon on it to give it the effect that would end up killing me
>Spend half an hour trying to explain how Geminis work
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>>160077362
a real friend wouldn't let one play that shit
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>>160077453
kys
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>>160077453
Weren't using my decks anyways
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post decks that can defeat immortals.
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>>160078375
>immortal
shouldn't have combo'd w/ black
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Is it better to play metalfoes pure or mixed with other archetypes?
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>>160079662
Metalspecters (Metalfoe+Majespecter) is amazing.
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>>160079662
Define pure.
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>>160080031
Not adding other archetypes like majespecters or PePe(if pepe works with metalfoes)
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>>160080159
Is this pure?
So Zodiac with Terror+Take is not pure?
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>>160080283
Yeah close enough.
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>>160080369
Maje in Metal is similar to Terror+Take in Zodiac though.
They can work without, but they're the best engine for them. Doesn't really change the playstyle anyway.
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Helmet me on zodiacs. Rat?? I want to splash them into my deck so minimal
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>>160081082
>summon rat
>xyz fap session
>win
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>>160080283
>Anteater Giant
>MST instead of Twin Twister
>Instant Fusion

Run 1-2 Twin Twister instead of MST, get a Luster in there, drop the Level 1 he's not very good, drop Anteater Giant I get where you're going with it but it's bad, look into adding Skill Drain and look into adding the Ultimaya engine.
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>>160082102
>twin twister in metalfoes
>dropping bismagia
have you EVER played the deck, or at the very least checked any topping list?
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>>160082102
>Ultimaya
>Luster
Not pure.
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>>160081992
as much as people like to meme about synchro masturbation and xyz masturbation, if it turned out that konami actually did make a maiden-themed blue-eyes synchro that required synchro masturbating with some new blue-eyes tuners, i would probably crank one out to her picture if i was feeling amorous and managed to summon her
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>>160080283
>>160082102
Also add 3 Raccoon and 1 Kirin. That's not running Majespecters, it's just running Kirin. you can even run 1 Cat if you want alongside it for a searchable low scale, which I recommend.

>>160082161
Twin Twister isn't that bad in Metalfoes, it's not that bad in any Pendulum deck.

Is he really that good? I've never had any success with him at all, honestly. If I need to pop him, he ends up being a waste in the extra deck and the search only happens at the end phase so it's too slow. As a scale he's okay but you already have searchable Steelens and Volflames.

>>160082192
Okay, if that's what you meant by pure or not pure then pure Metalfoes are not as good as regular Metalfoes and don't cost much more, so you should definitely not run pure Metalfoes.
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>>160082294
just count how many lists run mst compared to twin twister and how many run 2 bismagia.

bismagia can add another copy of itself, you can special summon it back with mythriel and the end phase search fuels fullmetal fusion on your opp's turn to make alkahest and stop their plays.

>Twin Twister isn't that bad in Metalfoes
discarding your pendulums is very bad, almost no list ever run it and if they did run, they did so after a full set of msts, cosmic cyclone is a lot better than twin twisters as a side, but you want msts in the main to combo with combination, as you'd do with eccentrick and so you don't autolose game one to asf.

pic related is old but really, check pretty much any pure list at all.
http://roadoftheking.com/database?deck=metalfoes
http://blog.livedoor.jp/yugioh_tpr/tag/%E3%83%A1%E3%82%BF%E3%83%AB%E3%83%95%E3%82%A9%E3%83%BC%E3%82%BC
http://ygodr.blog.jp/tag/%E3%83%A1%E3%82%BF%E3%83%AB%E3%83%95%E3%82%A9%E3%83%BC%E3%82%BC
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>Is he really that good? I've never had any success with him at all, honestly.

shit like this gets me hard, it's not like we are considering a special snowflake tech, but a card that literally every single top since its release has run at 2 or 3.

probably dozens of people have gone to tournaments and played hundreds of games and you think, with your obviously minimal experience with the deck, that it somehow doesn't make the cut?

this is why the world is so fucked up.
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>>160082879
People consider personal experience worth more than others' experience.
News at 11.
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>>160082650
>discard Metalfoe using Twin Twister
>bring it back with Combination the next turn
Really made me think desu
You might be right though, but eh. The issue with running MST in the main is that you have to run multiple and it ends up fucking your first turn if you go first. Not only that, but the majority of the time when people set stuff, it's more than 1 card and will all be cards you need an answer to. For that reason, I feel that 1 Twin Twister is fine as it isn't consistent enough to be opened every single game you go first, but also answers multiple cards if you need it to. If you look at the OCG, they have HFD so they don't need to care for Twin Twister because it is a better Twin Twister for them, although that probably changed with ASF mained in ABCs so they probably main MST or something now. Regardless, I feel like you need ASF answers in this format and that's either MST or Twin Twister, and opening multiple MST on your first turn is fucking cancer when they just TT your set MSTs and then play Union Hanger.

As for Bismagia, idk it still seems like a shit card to me. Maybe it's just because I haven't seen how good it is before in play. It still seems like a very slow card that you can't summon normally after you pop it, which matters in making good turn 1 plays.

>>160082879
Not everyone follows the OCG meta, friend. I've also played only Metalfoes since Monarchs (IRL that is) got hit in the last list, and I knew how the deck worked prior to the new stuff being released.
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>>160083140
Saying that Bismagia is shit, I'll test it out online, but I don't have high hopes for it in my list.
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>rank 3 D/D/D

uh oh
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>>160083501
can it play into treadtoad or rat?
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>>160083140
>MST fucking your first turn if you go first
You can use it to pop your set Combination.
>when people set stuff, it's more than 1 card
Not many meta deck is like this.
Even in case of ABC, they usually only set 1-2.
>opening multiple MST on your first turn is fucking cancer
And opening multiple TT is not bad?
>they just TT your set MSTs
That destroyed MST just protected a scale, while still effectively takes one of my opponent's card.
Pretty good deal I say, a bit better than when your TT is MST'd.
Another situation.
>opponent activates Union Hangar
>goes -1 to pop it with TT

>Bismagia
You're essentially "protecting" your high scale if you use him to Pendulum summon and then pop him.
Can also NS him and then pop him to complete your scale if you brick with high-scale.
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I bet /dng/ doesn't know his ABCs

A is for ABCs, who love to banish things
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>>160083754
B is for Banish face-down. The best removal in game.
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>>160083754
dont start this autistic shit
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>Anime Greedy Venom can banish Predaplants to revive itself

KONAMIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII

It also deals burn damage equal to the attack of the destroyed monsters to the controllers of those monsters
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>Frightfur Patchwork
>You can only activate 1 "Frightfur Patchwork" once per turn.
>(1) Add 1 "Polymerization" card and 1 "Edge Imp" monster from your Deck to your hand.
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DBLE-JP022 魔玩具補綴 Deathtoy Patchwork / Frightfur Patchwork
Normal Spell Card
You can only activate 1 “Frightfur Patchwork” per turn.
(1) Add 1 “Polymerization” and 1 “Edge Imp” monster from your Deck to your hand.

Mediocre anime shit
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>Dark Contract With Eternal Darkness
>(1) While this card is in a Spell & Trap Zone, the player who did not activate "Dark Contract With Eternal Darkness" cannot activate effects that target monsters (?), also they cannot Tribute monsters for a Tribute Summon or use monsters on the field as Material for a Synchro, Fusion, or XYZ Summon.
>(2) Once per turn, during your Standby Phase: take 1000 damage.

>Dark Contract with Surplus Summoning
>(1) Once per turn: you can Fusion Summon 1 "DDD" monster, using monsters you control as Material.
>(2) Once per turn: you can target 1 "DD" monster you control; increase that target's Level by 1 until the end of the turn.
>(3) Once per turn, during your Standby Phase: take damage equal to the number of monsters you control that were Special Summoned from the Extra Deck x 1000.
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>>160084186
>Dark Contract With Eternal Darkness
Hooray, stunshit!
>Dark Contract with Surplus Summoning
>"monsters you control"
Meh.
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>>160084005
>>160084024
>add Edge Imp Chain
>fuse it
>add Frightfur Patchwork from deck
Is there any good semi generic fusion monster I can summon using Chain?
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>>160084371
Starve venom
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>>160084024
>Pre-prep for Frightfurs
>shit

How so?
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>>160084428
>on field
Is there any good fusion monster I can summon using Chain in my hand?
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>>160084005
>>160084024
>chain searcher
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>>160084476
Starve venom
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>>160065967
>>160066568
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>>160084454
Oh, no, the card itself is great.
I'm just pissed they wasted it on this anime trash instead of a good deck.
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>>160084692
This is the kind of stuff we need to turn trash into good decks.
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>>160084738
You think this is suddenly going to make Fluffals do shit when they still don't even have a boss with protection and negation to tunnel into going first?
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>>160084692
Are you implying that all anime-related card like Monkeyboard, Joker, and D/D/D is bad?
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>>160084828
>boss with protection and negation
Guess what Zodiac don't have?
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>>160084906
Merkabah
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>>160066821
Some guy tested PePe against Drulers and after being horrified at PePe beating first turn triple Flare Metal decided to make them pendulums.
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>>160084920
That's Eidolon.
And yes, that unholy hybrid of Zodiac and Eidolon is Eidolon.dek.
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>>160084828
>protection
Saber-Tooth, Sheep
>negation
Dragostapelia, Toadally Awesome
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>>160084828
No, but if it means some suckers at your locals decide to build Fluffals because of it, you get some suckers to play with.
Petdecks getting help is always a good thing.
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>>160084974
>Toadally Awesome
>the only WATER level 4 Fluffal is Penguin
>can't even SS another copy from hand
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>>160084005
>this is a plus 1
>penguin is also tendencially a plus 1 since most discarded cards float in fluffals
nice
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>>160084991
I guess it's a good thing in that you're more likely to get free wins, sure.
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what are winter cherries's most common targets aside ABC buster? I have some spare ED slots that I may use with her
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>>160085114
Petdecks. Always. A good thing.
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>>160085216
I seriously use it more often as a Tuner than a hand trap
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>>160085216
Tigress
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>>160085423
Against new Zodiac player and Zodiac Eidolon, yeah.
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Zodiacs go in everything
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>>160085050
That's why you play 3 instant fusions
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>>160084005
Holy fuck all the recent fluffal support should be an example on how to give good support.
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>>160085785
Octo was pretty shit.
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>>160085730
No just Rat. All other Zodiacs are shit.
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>>160085730
>0 (ZERO) Rat
What.
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>>160085050
3 instant fusions. With the level 4s aside from penguin, this is never dead
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>>160085862
Viper's good.
>>160085908
He's just playing Zodiacs for the 1 card beast warrior searcher that then turns into Drancia, if you're going to splash Zodiacs that minimally Viper actually is the better choice over Rat.
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>friend of mine is sceptical about Bahamut Shark beign the problem card with Treetoad.

mfw
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>>160085749
>>160085938
>only possible from 2 unsearchable card
>boss monster
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>>160085817
It's the worst of the bunch but it's still decent. I'd gladly take any wave of support where the worst card it's octo level.
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>>160086017
It's pretty balance, Level 4 Waters aren't very common.
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>>160085985
>the only search target is a single Black Sheep, or another Viper
So use Triangle and Drancia to pop Toy Vendor after use?
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>>160086120
That's the idea.
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>>160086142
>Zodiac does a better job than Metal for popping your things
I don't know what to think about this.
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>>160086042
>penguin
>unsearchable

Wew lad
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>>160086508
>only possible from 2-card combo, 1 is unsearchable
>boss monster
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>master peace, the final form of luster, gives power to crystrons, metalfoes and zo(o)diacs in their field spells
>because he gave them power, they all pop their own cards like luster does
too much lore
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>>160084005
>>160084024
Well, I guess I'll run less Owls and ditch Fusion Recovery
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>>160084005
>>160084024
Why do all the meme decks get all the good stuff?
Compare this to the new D/D support and it's barely better than comparing the new Shaddoll and Yang Zing support.
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>>160084186
>the player who did not activate "Dark Contract With Eternal Darkness"
Such odd wording
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>>160086838
It is like that so the player (you) doesn't get affected by other (opponent's) Dark Contract with Eternal Darkness.
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>>160085730
RAT NOT EVEN GOOD ENOUGH
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>>160087085
That's still a very weird thing to do. Usually cards aren't designed with mirror matches in mind.
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>>160085730
They need to ban Rat, or at least limit it, seriously.
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>>160087268
>0 (ZERO) Rat
HAHAHA
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>>160087268
>deck runs 0 (zero) rats
Limit Triangle.
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>>160087268
Semi-Limit completely solves the problem without killing the card.
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>Opponents goes first, discards poison draw frog, summons swap, mills ronin
>Bounce swap, SS terrortop into Totem Bird
>Resummons swap into Toadally Awesome
>The proceds to active Elemental Triangle of the Zoodiac
So this is the future
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>>160087207
I haven't watch 131, but I guess it's a cue that his opponent will use/steal it or whatever to stop the lock.
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>>160084186
>the player who did not activate "Dark Contract With Eternal Darkness"
Whatever the fuck happened to "Your opponent"
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>>160084476
Kracken
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>Fluffals can now shit out Titanic Galaxy and Toadally Awesome fields on the first turn
Noice
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>>160088328
So your partner and you doesn't get locked if they also activates "Dark Contract of Eternal Darkness".
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>>160088675
How do you go into Titanic Galaxy first turn with Fluffals?
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>>160087414
>Resummons swap into Toadally Awesome
forgot ur shun
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>>160088675
>Toadally Awesome
STOP IT
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>>160088832
nvm can't read
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>>160088791
You summon Kraken, then summon Sabre-Tooth, bring back Kraken, then overlay.
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>>160088841
Zoodiacs. :^)
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>>160088841
It's infinitely better than Treatoad you weeb cuck.
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>>160089005
I don't like them anyway!
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>>160088675
4 card combo?
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>>160084476
the new predaplant
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>>160085730
ey i was playing that
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Holy Poly that's fast.
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>>160089407
Technically yes but if we factor in bear, penguin, foolish, wings and toy vendor it's way easier than what one might think.
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>>160089549
To be fair, it probably doesn't take much coding work. Just write in "add X and Y", nothing complex, unlike most recent cards.
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>>160089597
With this it becomes 3 cards >>160089549
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>>160089652
>Penguin, Dog, Patchwork, and Instant Fusion
Is there something I missed here?
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>>160088768
Wow, yeah that sounds like a totally practical use case.
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Ice Barrier frogs....

Toadally Awesome
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>>160089789
I cant believe I just lost against a mash up of level 2 shit including ice barriers.

I hate that fucking meme frog. Its like its fucking everywhere. Even in the elections theres meme frogs nowadays. Cant I just get away of fucking meme frogs?
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>>160089706
Dog, Patchwork, Instant
Patchwork into Poly and Imp Chain
Dog into Penguin
Poly into Kraken, Chain searches Factory
Factory into Saber Tooth into Titanic Galaxy
Instant into Bahamut Frog

This of course implies running at least 1 factory and I know a lot of people don't like that.
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>>160090131
And also needs Norden, right?
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>>160089886
Guy I was facing synchrod an Armory Arm and equipped it to his Frog.

3200 Omni Negation with two set Call of Haunter and 3 frogs on field.
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>>160090202
Is there someone who doesn't run Norden in Fluffals? Instant is pretty much staple anyway.
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>>160090343
OCG.
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>>160086089
>Level 4 Waters aren't very common
''Weren't'' you mean. Because sure as hell they are common now
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>>160090234
He should've made an Arc Light for maximum oversalt
>>
https://yugiohblog.konami.com/?p=26397
10 ABC
4 Metalfoes
1 Paleozoic
1 Blue-eyes
Nice fair and balanced meta. It's literally elementary school.
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>>160090839
Don't hate the game hate the players.

You fuckers choose to only play that crap.
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>>160090887
>why do people at a tournament try to win
Don't blame the players, blame the game.
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>>160090839
Can't wait for the elementary school trip to the zoo.
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>>160090839
Where's the decklists?
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Post money cards
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>>160084005
>>160084024
This makes me so unbelievably happy. Now the question is should I make room for Bahamut Shark, Treetoad and possibly Titanic Galaxy?
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>>160090669
Let's see the list of new level 4 Water monster.
>Fluffal Penguin
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Should I change up my Fluffal Extra?
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>>160091136
>Haratambe kidnaps ABC child
>Tewart opens fire

Meme magic strikes again
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>>160091634
How often do you manage to summon Harbinger?
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>>160091634
Remove one sheep for the second Kraken
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>>160091634
-1 Sheep +1 Kraken
I also play Utopia insted of Dweeler and Castel.
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>>160091756
Except this time Tewart's going hit both ABC and Zoodiacs so his decks can top.
I can't believe he messed up on both SPYRAL and Subterror, his only success were Kozmo and Burning Abyss.
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>Yuto gets a Rank 2
>Reiji gets a Rank 3
What the fuck Ono
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>>160092570
When they get printed:

''You can also Xyz summon this card by using a ''[Insert Archetype] Xyz Monster. (Xyz materials attached to that card become Xyz materials of this card)''
+Some sort of buffed up effect that will have impact in the meta
+Some useful thing that makes it a staple in BA
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>>160092730
>Rank-down Xyz change
Interesting.
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>>160092293
>implying Kozmos are good
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>>160092996
>were
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>>160093079
>implying they ever were
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>>160093107
Nice meme.
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so how do i play abyss actors? anyone got a list?
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>>160086596
>his only success was Burning Abyss.

Fixed
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>>160093552
You rape your opponents in all holes they have and more
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I've created the most obnoxious deck in the world
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>>160094401
Needs Dimensional Barrier
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>>160094401
This >>160094643
replace some of those holes with it
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>>160094401
No, that would be Kosmo Metalfoes.
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Someone explain tiers and the meaning of rouge to me.
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>>160095073
They're just based on the percentage of tops
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Rank 2 Chemicritter that calls a chemicritter from the deck and gives it it's effect when?
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>>160094401
>all those trap holes in main
>no rafflesia in ED
any reason why not? Of course if you follow >>160094732 then she'd be less useful since there'd be fewer trap holes to use for the effect.
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I need your help, /DNG/

With just Jiaotu and two YZ cards (pretend they're both path/nine pillars) is it possible to make Baxia + Herald of Arc Light?

>Jiaotu, summon Suanni and Zefraniu
>make Baxia
>destroy Suanni, get Jiaotu
>summon Bixi from deck
>make Arc Light

Easy. But is it possible to make Baxia and Arc Light with Bi'an as material for Arc Light?
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>Add INOV stuff to my deck before locals
>Bump main deck to 42
>Go undefeated without losing a game
>Never see the Rare metalfoes once
>Side both of them out every game

I feel like it's one of those things you are bad not to run but really don't want to run anyway.

How was locals for /dng/?
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>>160094643
>>160094732
on it

>>160094906
nah fire king kozmo was always more annoying

>>160095160
i was just going for "generic traps" and im familiar with trap holes

How can I get a couple Fog controls in?
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>>160095397
soul charge
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>>160095492
Everything is easy with Soul Charge but is it possible with just Jiaotu without Chiwen already in hand?
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>>160095397
Something, something, summon Dong long, something, float into Bi'an and Chiwen and sync into Arc Light.
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>>160095473
add 1 water spirit
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>>160095584
you mean aqua spirit? why not nimble angler?
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>>160095397
Jiaotu discard 1 yz + chiwen
ss bian and zefrafuxi
synchro denglong
Synchro Baxia
Denglong eff summon whatever
Baxia effect popping what you summoned, pull back bian, chiwen summons itself back, synchro herald
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>>160095634
I think this is better and doesn't need Chiwen.

Jiaotu SS Zefraniu and any not Bi'an YZ
Baxia
Baxia destroy other YZ, SS Jiaotu
Activate YZ, SS Bi'an
Denglong, search Nine Pillars
Denglong, dump Chiwen
Set Nine Pillars

End: Baxia + Denglong, set Nine Pillars with Chiwen in grave ready to make Arc Light after you negate something with Nine Pillars.

What's the strongest field you can think of with JUST Jiaotu and two YZ spell/traps to discard off of Jiaotu? Assume no disruption and opponent has no cards.
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>>160095634
>>160095835
Isn't there some combo list posted here that starts with 3 YZ and 1 Metal that results in Titanic, Dong Long, 9 pillar, and Zefra Divine Strike, with that Zefra YZ in ED, and Donglong can float into Arc Light after you use 9 pillar for a total of 4 negation?
Or something that starts with the same hand but ends with LIGHT/DARK/something Chaofeng, Donglong, Titanic, and 9 Pillar, with Donglong floating into Arc Light after you use 9 Pillar?
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>>160095473
drop memestart and a maybe the bottomless or a strike (3 strikes + warning + 2 instants > 8000lp although I admit you probably won't use all of them) bottomless for the fog controls if you want them in but it is essentially a -1.

Since you're running pot of memes you can get away with running a slightly higher than a 40 card deck (41 if you cut memestart and put two fog controls in) since pot cuts your deck by 12 every time you use it anyway.
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Melodious now have:
Ties of the Brethren
1st Movement Solo
Ostinato
protection and plussing out the ass
are they playable yet?
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>>160095932
Define playable.
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>>160095919
i suppose on top of 3x ties lp loss is a bit heavy
how about:
-1 strike
-upstart

+1 PoD
+2 fog control
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>>160095909

You can either end on Tzolkin + Crystal Wing or Hope Harbinger along with Void Ogre and a live Nine Pillars + Nine Pillars/Zefra Divine Strike but that needs Metalfoes + any YZ + 2 YZ cards with Zefraxi in deck. I'm trying to find combos that don't rely on the Metalfoes when they get Twinned away or I don't draw any of the 10 I play.
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>>160095984
the deck has its own playing style instead of reverting something generic like r4nk spam and can comfortably deal with threats/put goodstuff on board
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>>160096259
>instead of reverting something generic like r4nk spam
>and can comfortably [...] put goodstuff on board
You are contradicting yourself here.
And Melodious is playable even before Ostinato then.
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>>160096072
I personally would not run more than two PoD to prevent the dreaded 'activate pot banish 10 draw into another pot' scenario which is horrible when it happens.

Maybe if you could fit a few more decent water monsters (maybe add a turbulence or two (they're also lv 4 waters) and some smoke balls which can open up R1 Xyzs to you) and you could fit a moray of greed in and/or run salvage (probably something you should consider running anyway) since it can recycle your cloudians which when you only currently have 10 monsters in a deck with PoD could be quite useful.
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>>160096569
>the dreaded 'activate pot banish 10 draw into another pot' scenario
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>>160096751
It sure doesn't feel that low when it happens on percy to me every other game. Also that calculation does not take into account the chance that you could also open with >1 desires in hand.
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>>160096982
>open with >1 desires in hand
That's not the dreaded 'activate pot banish 10 draw into another pot' scenario.
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>>160095835
You can do my combo>>160095634 without chiwen in hand, all you need to do is pull chiwen from deck when you pop with baxia and then pull bian from grave
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>>160096569
thing is with turbulence is its only useful if you run the smoke balls, and even then they clog hands, meaning you have to run moray of greed, etc
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>>160097058
Whilst that is true, it should also be highlighted as a risk of running three desires since if you run three you obviously are more likely to see more than one in your first hand than if you only ran two.

Also, how often would you ever really want to activate desires more than once per game? The fact that it's a hard OPT to start with so you have to have at least 25 in deck and that assumes that you're okay with losing 20 of those 25 for the rest of the game and the fact that you'd deck out the next turn if for whatever reason you couldn't win.

>>160097308
I realize that and noticed that you aren't running the torrent barrier statue which would actually be a much better fit for your deck while also being a Lv4 water
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>>160097502
>if you run three you obviously are more likely to see more than one in your first hand than if you only ran two.
Well, pic related.

>how often would you ever really want to activate desires more than once per game?
That's not why you run Desires at 3.
It's the same reason why the common ratio of BriFu engine is 3 BriFu and 1 Garnet.
>at least 25 in deck and that assumes that you're okay with losing 20 of those 25 for the rest of the game
Drawing 3 Desires in one game is Magical Christmas Land scenario.
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>>160097183
Jiaotu has to summon one with 0 def and one with 0 atk. Can't get Zefraxi and Bi'an.
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>mfw I just dished outk 16k damage on my first turn in a tag duel with Fluffals without even using my partner's cards.
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QUICK /dng/, POST YOUR FACE WHEN YOU DRAW 'THAT' CARD!
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>>160097502
id use the barrier statue if it was ties of the brethren searchable
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>>160098089
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>>160098089
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>>160098089
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>>160097804
The 25 in deck scenario is for if you activate 2 desires, not 3, which if you have an abysmal hand you may not have a choice. If you were to draw and then want to activate all 3 (now this is admittedly a very big stretch) you'd need at least 38 in deck (1 per draw between turns and 36 for the desires) so including your turn 1 hand you'd need at least 43 in deck, and that assumes that you have no searchers which would then mean you'd need even more in deck.

Running 2 PoD is like running 2 Maxx C before it got semi'd. You don't want them to clog your turn one hand and in the case of PoD, you never really need to use more than one per game anyway.
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>>160098089
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>>160098089
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>>160098089
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>>160098089
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>>160097837
>FUCK reading
My bad.
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>>160098089
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>>160098089
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>>160098089
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>>160098089
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>>160098089
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Which of the following should I build on pro, /dng/?

Abyss Actors
Melodious
Aroma
Dark Magician
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>>160098397
wha the fug
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>>160098275
I don't understand.
If you activates the first Desires, now you have 23 card in your deck, after using it.
If you activates the second Desires, now you have 10 card in your deck, after using it.
Search, mill, etc isn't counted, of course. But unless every card you open and draw is a live searcher, which is almost impossible, you won't deckout.
So why should you run 43 card deck if you run 3 desires?

And the chance of drawing 2 desires if you run 3 desires, as the calculation said, is small, as small as you drawing 3 different unsearchable 3-of in your opening hand.
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>>160098089
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>>160099196

I was was the thumbnail of some sneak peak opening video.
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Why the fuck isn't there a Pirate Archtype yet.
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>>160098089
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>>160099229
43 is if you want to actually activate all 3 when you run 3 and as I said, that would be the absolute minimum since it means you get to not use any searchers.

My point as a whole is that why would you want to run a card that you only really want to use once (activating twice will probably hit the stuff you actually need as part of the banish 10) at three which you can only use two of, you have little control as to what you draw and you could lose the exact things you were after as part of the banish facedown (admittedly this isn't too bad if you only activate one but even so it is still a possibility).

Also if you play IRL you don't want to run 3 of a card which is incredibly expensive thanks to rarity bumping because who actually is willing to pay ~$240 for just 3 cards (not from the US but have seen people saying it's >$70 per desires) when just having 2 will do just fine. This type of massive expenditure is going to send the game back into TeleDAD levels if you want to play competitively if people are not careful.
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>>160099843
aa
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>>160100037
>My point as a whole is that why would you want to run a card that you only really want to use once [...] at three which you can only use two of,
Say that to BriFu.
Say that to Terrortop.
Heck, say that to Rat with their Triangle and Terror.

>if you want to actually activate all 3 when you run 3
If you actually activates all 3 in one game, you should try lottery instead. You have better luck at that.
>that would be the absolute minimum
Wait, I screwed a bit.
Even if you open 3 searcher, draw another 2, draw another searcher in your next draw, and then draw another 2, you still have 2 card in your deck.
No deckout.
>you have little control as to what you draw and you could lose the exact things you were after as part of the banish facedown
This is trivial as it also happens if you activates one, and the chance to activates two, even if you run 3, is still so low that you won't need to think about it at all.
That's like running less than 3 Terraforming in ABC because there's a bigger chance to brick than if you use 2.
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>>160100701
If you still think about activating 2 Desires, just think about it this way.
Do you want to ruin your additional 10% chance to open Desires because there's 3% chance to open 2 of them?
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Remember when YGO was fun?
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>>160100937
>tfw remembering that VWXYZ Fusion was a rare
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>>160100937
Sure was fun going second and having your entire hand dismembered by Forceful and Confiscation
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>>160100937
But anon, YGO is becoming fun again because we're pretty much in another good stuff format.
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>>160101389
>Masturbating into le unbreakable boards
You and I have very different definitions of fun
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>>160101518
If you consider GOAT decks fun, then of course.
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>>160101518
>games that last forever and forced tournaments to put a timer on them are fun

GOATfags are the worst
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>>160101719
>>160101818
I don't even like GOAT, I just want my games to take longer than 2 turns.
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>>160101518
Which one is worse?
>unbreakable board that you know is unbreakable
>board that is actually unbreakable but you don't know because the card is set
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Is Shun posting the best yugioh meme ever created?
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>attack with s39
>Chain ABC effect
>opponent cant respond

on the same vein

>attack with s39
>chain raigeki
>opponent cant respond
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>>160101901
Yes, followed closely with "Kaiju the Ophion".
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>>160101901
Nah, it's Yuya getting fendommed
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>>160101980
Is this a Shunpost?
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>>160101980
Oh, c'mon.
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Buy some astral pack 8s, y/n?
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>>160102447
or the new gold rare set
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>>160102447

>Super instant
>Ulti Trish/Cyclone

How lucky are you feeling?
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>>160102627
Not very, but I want to buy cards.
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>>160103041
just buy some invasion of venom
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>>160100937
man, remember when DD Warrior Lady was limited?
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what's this about?
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>>160103340
they were broken and then fixed
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>>160084005
>>160084024
>Konami releases new Fluffal/Frightfur support
>Konami still hasn't released his Pendulum cards
Fucking hell.
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>Crystrons
>Geminis
>Superheavies
these trash cards fit me perfectly
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>>160103705

>Sora
>Pendulum cards
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>>160104151
reda the manga you plebian.
they're the same as the lunalight pendulums in effect
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>>160104151
Angel and fusionist
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>>160100937
No.

>>160101389
Generic goodstuff is cancer of the worst kind.
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goodstuff doesn't work in ygo because every deck can play any card so every deck ends up just being the best goodstuff in the end.

unless you LIKE one-deck formats ... do you, anon?

do you?
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>>160104307
pendulums doesnt fit with every archetype i prefer playable support
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https://yugiohblog.konami.com/?p=26436
And ABC won YCS Brazil.
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>>160105027
On the other hand, with archetypes, one always ends up objectively better than the others anyway and becomes the most or only dominant deck. So really, you're fucked either way.
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>>160105283
except DUEA~BOSH we had qlis, shads, nekroz, tellars, burning abyss and noids all at or near the top
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>>160105283
Archetypes can have different matchups so you might end up with a RPS format.
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>>160104151
>Rin
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>>160105527
That doesn't change the fact of what I said
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>tfw you're autistically obsessed with Yugioh and can't stop playing
It feels like only just started playing this game and I have 1300 games somehow
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Uh oh.

Raigeki'd my monsters and blew up my back row...

What am I gonna do...
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>>160106032
Never mind, I win.
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>>160100937
Yeah, this was a fun locals deck. I normally went 4-1/3-1.

why don't you hit n/a for the ban list so then you don't have janky numbers everywhere and why not change your bg to black?
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>>160106349
>Spellbooks were only ever relevant because of one extremely horribly designed card
Always funny.
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>>160106170
>>160106032
post dick
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>>160106170
>nine turns
Absolutely disgusting.
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>>160101389
Yeah, I too like formats with only one playable deck where the game lasts 2 turns tops.
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>>160106349
Why do you have autism?
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>>160106930
Ten, I made sure he killed himself with his contracts
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>>160106786
You mean like ABC?
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>>160107174
ABC only good cause of their field.
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>>160106986
You're a shitter if you don't.

>>160107290
That's what he meant.
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how I do Exodia Solitaire?
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If wasn't for Dragon Rulers, Prophecy would be relevant even without Judgment.
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Terraforming ban when? The only time it's ever been useful is with enabling cancerous decks, and it is horrible card design.
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>>160103340
Construct is now Forbidden.
Where it belongs.
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>>160107541
add rat
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>>160107707
>somebody mad because they got shat on by Herald
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>>160107707
>The only time it's ever been useful is with enabling good decks
Just like every card ever?
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>>160107021
saying is bad because reaper is bad. Only carried on the back of fate and judgment.
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>>160107616
Mermail and Evilswarm are easily as good as Spellbooks without Judgment. Also, Infernity existed back then, too. Just nobody played it because they didn't know what they were doing with Chain and Emeral yet. I believe if more people bothered to understand Infernity, it would have been more than 2.3%
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>>160107910
reasoning was good in reaper builds too
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Who made the decks in the ygopro in the op? Are they up to date?
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>>160108059
Evilswarm died after Dragon Rulers were gone, even though there was no new deck around. They were only relevant because they were a counter to Rulers, Evilswarm did jack shit during Fire Fist, Mermail and Geargia formats, decks that already existed when Evilswarm topped.
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>>160108437
Not really, with a few exceptions. But AI cheats hella hard so even the mediocre dated decks can stomp you if you're not careful
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>>160107787
Who?

>>160107805
Except not at all.
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Yugioh has turned into such a clusterfuck meta only kind of card game.
Makes me sad.
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>>160108554
I meant the decks without the AI prefix
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is there anywhere I CAN get the 640p 'HQ' images?
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>>160108898
>T0 meta
>bawwwwwwwwwwww
>diverse meta
>bawwwwwwwwwwww

Make up your mind
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>>160109028
>I'm just going to post edgy things on 4chan!!!
Nice. Blocked.
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>>160107616
>beign this salty
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>>160108898
>meta only
Maybe in tourneys and online, where you expect to see nothing but meta anyway, but you can still play uber casual at locals or on your mothers kitchen table.
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>>160108554
>Not really, with a few exceptions.
Someone should update them, then.
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>>160109243
I don't know what you are projecting, I'm saying Judgment is not the the only card relevant in Prophecy.
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>>160109291
>that deck's AI in charge of not opening scales and at least 3 traps
Fuck them
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>>160109291
The problem with YGOPro's AI isn't that the decks are out of date, it's that even if you update the cards in the deck the AI won't know what to do with the new cards. For example, if you give it Dimensional Barrier, the AI might read the card's effect, recognize that there are two Xyz Monsters on the field, and immediately use it to prevent and negate Xyz Monsters... Even though the two Xyz Monsters on the field are THEIR monsters, not yours.

Basically the AI is shit and needs the scripting updated which is hella time-consuming.
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>>160098089
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>>160109291
>Anon constantly bitches about how Pendulum Call shouldn't be limited
>No one seems to disagree
>Pendulum Call makes AI a bitch to duel
Can you make your mind?
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>>160109291
>no kirin
>still shits on you with a vengeance
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>>160109809
Pendulum Call is quite bad in the deck it's meant to be actually played in because you can't use Wisdom-Eye or Sky Iris after activating Pendulum Call. It can be really good in other pendulum decks though. Poor design.
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>>160109809
Have another example that everyone does hate, then.
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>>160109990
>38 cards
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>>160109979
>Pendulum Call is quite bad in the deck it's meant to be actually played in
>discard 1 search ANY 2 and have indestructible scales is bad
Not being able to use Wisdom-Eye or pop a scale with Sky Iris is a pretty small price to pay in comparison with what you get for it.
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3 Metalfoes Silverd
3 Metalfoes Goldriver
3 Metalfoes Steelen
1 Metalfoes Volflame
3 Zefraniu, Secret of the Yang Zing
2 Zefraxi, Treasure of the Yang Zing
3 Chiwen, Light of the Yang Zing
3 Jiaotu, Darkness of the Yang Zing
1 Pulao, Wind of the Yang Zing
2 Bixi, Water of the Yang Zing
3 Bi'an, Earth of the Yang Zing
3 Suanni, Fire of the Yang Zing
3 Yang Zing Path
1 Metalfoes Fusion
1 Soul Charge
2 Metalfoes Combination
3 Nine Pillars of the Yang Zing
1 Zefra Divine Strike
1 Vanity's Emptiness


Deck is 42. What would you cut?

10 Metalfoes
12 YZ I can pop to get Jiaotu + 3 Jiaotu
26 YZ cards, including 3 Jiaotu to discard
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I just play illegal decks against the AI too. It's the whole point of playing against the AI to me.
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>>160110168
It's a raw two-for-two in a deck that hates discarding and often a terrible top-deck. Wisdom-Eye is probably the most important card in OEM, not being able to use its effect and then seeing your scales destroyed by Twin Twisters during your next SP is awful. It's really not that strong, especially with OEM's tendency to brick when they open without high scales.
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>>160084186
Holy shit dark contract is the anti kaiju card.. anti everything but non targeting really, and how many decks have answers for this in the main? This is a level of stun shit that's imo on the level of skill drain, one of the few times I hope it's toned down from the anime.
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Is nekroz still alive?
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>>160110409
nothing, 42 is fine
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>>160086724
They get good stuff because the other decks already have good stuff.
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>>160110614
>anti kaiju
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>>160110614
>contract is the anti kaiju card
How?
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What the fuck are you supposed to do against turn 1 Vanity's Fiend? Just not play?
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>>160110950
>>160110931
Shit just reread ignore my brain damage. Saw tribute and got nervous, I know it isn't a tribute summon.
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>>160111176
Make sure your deck has an out to it like Book of Moon/Eclipse or monster destruction
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>>160111176
twin twisters
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>>160111176
Hope you have outs that can deal with it. I play mermails and even then it can still be trouble because it shuts down slumber. To be fair, it's fairer in that it needs a tribute to summon vs it's trap counter part.
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so guys
the birthday of a friend is coming and he wants to play ygo again
now, this wouldnt be a problem if he wanted some decent decks, but no, he is asking for gishki, the agent or dragunity
which one is the best and cheapest deck i can get him?
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>>160111618
Dragunities are decent still, but you need some semi-pricey synchros, like Tzolkin, and you need Crystal Wang, which is like $40.
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>>160111460
Shun?
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>>160111618
just get him a zielgigas turbo deck
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>>160111720
Discard Catsith ;3
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>>160111176
mst or Trap motherficking Eater
why we don't have a Spell Eater
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>>160111715
>>160111715
Don't forget Gae Dearg being almost $30.
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>>160111460
>>160111928
>these two nerds in charge of reading
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>>160111618
>>160111808
Did someone say Gishki?
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>>160111715
>>160112007
yeah, honestly i love dragunities but those fuckers are expensive
thanks

>>160111808
>>160112287
thanks m8s
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so /dng/ idk about some of you, but i sometimes make decks that dont make any sense at all and just have fun playing around with them. So my question to you is whats the worst deck you've ever made but kept around just cause?
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>>160111176
Eccentrick
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>>160112287
>not using gishki beast
its like you dont like memeing after a Zielgigas ritual into Baha then treatoad
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>>160112536
ive LITERALLY just took out the 3 to test instant in its place, ill probably go 2 and 2
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>>160110409
>What would you cut?
Don't you mean "add"?
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>>160109979
>Pendulum Call is quite bad in the deck it's meant to be actually played in because you can't use Wisdom-Eye or Sky Iris after activating Pendulum Call. It can be really good in other pendulum decks though
So most cards recently
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>>160112832
this desesperately needs RATS and Eidolons.
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>>160111715
>>160112007
>>160112370
Dragunity reprints when?
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>>160112832
>running two combination, two fullmetalfoes, two taketomborg just because of Pot of Desires
>not running two Viper even though the second is often very useful
I respectfully disagree
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OH NO 100 LP LEFT

WHAT CAN I DO
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eidolon zodiacs are getting a bit stale

give me something else to try R A T in
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Anyone has a tip for me to cultivate a strong deck Predaplant deck?
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>>160112832
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>>160113415
Play a better deck
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>>160113430
You already know the answer is everything
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>>160113415
>>160113518

He summoned penguin and attacked, thats when ygopro decided to be laggy thus his anger.
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Ritual summons from the deck when?
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>>160113612
no.
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>>160113612
Hopefully never.
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gravekeepers support when?
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>>160114215
No.
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>>160114215
>>160114148
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V-JUMP in a few days.
What to expect/hope for?
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>>160114929
Disappointment.
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>>160114929
Expect the worst.
Hope for the end.
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>>160114929
Horrible shit.
Nothing.
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>>160114929
Shit cards for shit yet hyped decks.
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>>160114929
Something that has rat synergy.
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how are esprits? is urgent ritual art as obnoxious as we thought it would be?
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>>160114993
>>160115058
>>160115146
>>160115303
What happened to the V-JUMPs? Everybody used to be so hyped for them now people have nothing but disdain for them.
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>>160116115
Because V-JUMPs have time and time again been decent cards for trash archetypes or just outright hot garbage along the likes of Speedroid Passing Rider, Silent Paladin, the Predaplant Fusion, Krystal Dragon and the like.

http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/V_Jump_promotional_cards
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>>160116494
The Predaplant fusion is decent.
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>>160114929
practically:
>>160114993
>>160115058
>>160115146
>>160115303
mixed together on a blendtec. will they blend? that is the question!
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>>160116586
He said decent cards for trash archetypes.
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>>160112021
i thought it was the trap
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>>160116494
I wish Konami would stop wasting good cards on trash. Only the meta deserves good support.
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>>160116494
>Because V-JUMPs have time and time again been decent cards for trash archetypes
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>>160116834
Not sure if serious, though I do agree
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>>160114148
>>160114103
why not?
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>>160116702
Would you put him in the same tier as Silent Paladin?
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>>160117058
Absolutely serious.
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>>160117082
Because we don't need more bad cancer.
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Speaking of V-Jumps, what were the points of Priestess with eyes of Blue, Blue-eyes Twin Burst Dragon and Chocolate Magician Girl?
They were all advertised as part of the DSoD movie but none of those cards were used in the movie in the first place.
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>>160116586
exactly ;3
https://twitter.com/gorgeous_blue_/status/797808328868962304
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>>160117228
Good to know there is one person here who isn't a shitter
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>>160117652
pleaselikeandsubcribe.jpg
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>>160110409
you dont need to cut cards, as long as the ratios are right. If youre desperate for muh 40 cards cut vanitys and soul charge. also consider running 3 terrortop and one red eyed dice for denglong too
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>>160117439
Nostalgiafag pandering.
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>>160117821
Cry more shitter
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>>160117493
Is there a deck that doesn't benefit from having zoodiacs splashed into it?
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>>160117968
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>>160117058
You just reminded me, Neos, Harpies and Dark Magician got support in the 20th Anniversary pack and it's a 51 card set.
What other support can we expect?
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>>160118069
Cyberdark and Archfiend
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>>160118069
I think someone said DM is going to get five cards worth of support in the Anniversary pack and that that's the end of DM nostalgia support, and that GX will get 10 and will signal the true start of GX support.
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>>160117285
We do need more bad cancer that's how this game stays afloat.
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>>160118370
No, we need good cancer like Rat.
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>>160118264
>I think someone said DM is going to get five cards worth of support in the Anniversary pack and that that's the end of DM nostalgia support, and that GX will get 10 and will signal the true start of GX support.
And so far, we've gotten 2/5 for Dark Magician and Harpie for Yugi and Mai which leaves 3 characters of DM characters to get a new card.
GX got 2/10 cards already for Judai and Run so now we wait for the rest.
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Fucking Gladiator Beasts in Arc V destroying everything and everyone.
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>>160118689
They also destroyed the show's ratings and fanbase.
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>>160118689
Did you miss the last few sets of GX? This deck was expensive for both your wallet and your friendships.
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>>160118689
>>160118803
>all that cocksucking for a shitty dead archetype the director loves
>doesn't even get any cards printed out of it
Pretty funny to be honest
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>>160119006
Gladiator Beast Pendulums when?
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>>160118498
>Rat
>Good
Nice one jewnami.
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>>160119930
>Rat
>not good
Nice one, shitter.
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What's the ruling for when my Opponent tries to Winter Cherries me but I don't have the monster they reveal in my ED? I was playing subterrors yesterday, I won the dice roll and opened with Terrortop and as soon as I specialed Taketomborg the guy I was playing discarded Winter Cherries and revealed a Dante. He then insisted he gets to check my ED, but I'm not sure if that's right.
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>>160120254
He does.
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>>160120000
I think you missunderstand me Rat is no good for the game.
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>>160120254
Never mind, I'm retarded. For some reason I forgot that Cherries actually said "look at your opponents extra deck".
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>>160120254
Of course he can check your extra deck and verify that you dont have the card.

The exception of the rule is if you can prove to him that you dont play the cherried card using public knowledge information.

If he for example calls reveals Ignister and you already have an ignister in the grave or on the field, then you dont need to show your ED. Since Ignister is at 1 and you having it on a public knowledge zone is enough information to conclude that no Ignister can be in your ED.
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>>160120000
>i need rat as a crutch because im bad the game
nice to know, shitter
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>>160120490
Even if it didnt say "look at your opponents extra deck" your opponent would have the right in this scenario.

See the rulings for mind crush.
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>>160120000
Wasted quads.
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>>160120654

Then why do they include the "look at your opponent's extra deck" if you are going to look at it anyway?
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>>160120431
Nope.

>>160120616
Whatever you say, shitter.
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>>160120954
Because people are fucking morons and they'd argue against it.
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>>160120000
quads confirm rat is not shit
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>>160120954
So people like you dont go BUT THE CARD DOESNT SAY YOU GET TO LOOK :^^^^^) despite this being a completely faulty logic ignoring PSCT and prior rulings.

I have dealt with this topic 219809012390123901 times with regards to Mind Crush.
>BUT MIND CRUSH DOESNT SAY YOU CAN LOOK AT MY HAND SO IM JUST GONNA SAY I DONT HAVE THE CARD XDD
God sometimes Im glad DN is dead.
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>>160120000
Can't argue with those quads. However, Rat is still degenerate.
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>>160120954
If I had to guess, it was put there to avoid any confusion on how to rule the above scenario. Obviously it wouldn't be THAT big of a deal since we already have the ruling for mind crush, but it's nice because it completely prevents that situation from coming up.
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>>160120979
whatever you say, shitter
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>>160121580
Whatever you say, shitter.
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>>160122040
Whatever you say, shitter.
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>people getting visibly upset when you use a good deck or a good card
Is this an american thing?
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>>160122160
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>>160122219
No, japs are worse nigga.
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>>160122160
I've legitimately been thinking about taking Gamaciel out and putting this in.
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>>160122154
Whatever you say, shitter.

>>160122219
Nah, it's a shitter thing.

>>160122420
I'm sure.
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I did, guys! I saved USA!
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>>160122641
>I did guys!
lmao homo
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>>160122641
>Saved
*Doomed
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>>160122641
>Performage in ABC
For what purpose?
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Is jet synchron for the fire eidolon a good idea?

>>160122641
>he wanted wwiii
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>>160122641
>I did, guys!
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>>160122641
the hero what murica dont deserve
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let's talk about something better, like Cat's Ear Tribe.
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>>160122607
Whatever you say, shitter.
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What really needs to go
The cards like Dragon Buster, Rat and Toadally Awesome or all the traps they come with?
Would Drancia, Toadally Awesome decks and ABC still be that good if they didn't have ASF, Vanity, Dimension Barrier and Strike to back up their boards?
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>>160123187
Whatever you say, shitter.

>>160123252
Neither, since that would be removing actual fun from the game.
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So what's gonna change from the OCG version when this finally releases? I'm guessing Allure of Darkness gets removed because it's worth so much in the TCG right?
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>>160122889
source?
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>>160123529
Forgot pic
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>>160123529
>>160123730
They removed the generic good shit from Yugis and Kaibas, so probably.
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>>160122641
>no Iron Wall
>I did guys

You wasn't fighting the real Trump faggot.
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>>160123252
Dragon Buster needs to be limited.
Meme Frog probably should be limited, but the real problem is its enablers Bahamut Shark and the bullshittery that is Solemn Strike.

But Konami being Konami won't touch any of it until they've already made their money off of it all. Case in point: Kozmemes.
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Is Yuri the best antagonist in all of Yugioh?
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>>160122848
Probably brilliant fusion galaxy soldier meme deck
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>>160124332
no triple Iron Wall plus at least one Koa'Ki Wall + Blockman
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r8 h8. Still need to order the second Mythriel.

Also recommend Yugioh sized waifu sleeves.
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>>160124626
>three Counters when you can just recycle it if needed with Mythriel
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>>160124626
>Pyruluk
Nice.
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>>160124569
He's the best for memes of that's what you mean
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>>160124774

But counter ends up banished like a turn after it hits the grave 90% of the time.

>>160124802
Best LRIG
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>>160124569
That would be best girl Vector.
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>>160122641
>Majespecters
Ew.
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I know it likely, but I'm still holding out hope that KoA doesn't cut Allure from the TCG version of pendulum domination.
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So...who here actually owns a Duel Disk?
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>>160122889
The little guy isn't worth the effort. The only time I saw him being put into decent use was in Metalfoes.

>Aleister+any Metal into Pic related
>Pendulum Volflame
>Xyz into arsenal falcon
>Detach to SS wind statue.

>>160113438
For starters, Sarraceniant, Kingii, and Graft are all 3-ofs. Planet (it's grave effect anyway) is pretty good thanks now thanks to Dragostapelia

I kinda gave up on pure as it was too slow and barely functioned half the time. The Zodiac engine fixes these problems by providing fusion fodder and access to norden outside of instant fusion, all while keeping the deck's counter gimmick.
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>>160124626
>Nirvana
What?
Also not sure how I feel about 2 Jowgen and the 3 Counter. I'd drop the Counter to at least 2 but I would recommend 1, and Jowgen isn't needed much anymore unless your region/locals has a lot of BE players. Isn't it useless against ABC? I would also recommend using 2 Mithrillium over the Level 10 fusion.

I would also highly, highly recommend dropping 1 Painful Decision as 3 clogs and 2 is consistent enough to be useful. Plus you can only use it once a turn so drawing multiples is really bad. Replace it with either a Majespecter Cat or a Ariadne to search for Strikes/Warning.
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Red-eyes are selling really good here. TCG Exclusives, when?
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>>160125964
How much KoA will ban this art?
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>>160125765
I have a GX duel disk
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>>160125765
I've got the springloaded death trap Duel Disk from first Yugioh and the GX one.
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>>160124246
What generic good stuff was removed from Kaibas SD? I checked the card lists on the wiki and I don't see anything important missing for the TCG release.
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>>160126216
do you remember Fiend Comedian OCG/TCG artworks? because I do.
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>>160125765
I used to when I was 10 then a huge faggot broke it.
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>>160126446
Battle Ox
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>Decks you want

Flameswordsman deck when...
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>>160126895
after Muka Muka beatdown.dek or Battle Ox feat.RAT.dek
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>>160125964
>Zodiac engine fixes these problems by
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>>160126895
Egyptian god deck
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>>160126895
A decent Ice Counter/Snow support to save the archetype or just a good "Ice" archetype.
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>>160126895
cat's ear tribe.dek
spear cretin.dek
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>>160126895
JRPG boss archetype
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>>160126895
Playable M. Pegasus deck
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>>160127875
JRPG boss archetype
so an upgraded Labrynth archetype
Labrynth Walls + Gate Guardian retrains when!
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>>160126895
Trojan War.dek
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>>160126216
Other than the guy with the nail on his head, everything else is fine tbqh.

>>160127398
I blame autocorrect.
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>>160126895
Pirate deck
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>>160128029
What was it supposed to be?
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>>160125987

I obviously take nirvana at events that matter. But at locals it might as well be my trump card. Literally have not lost a game where he was summoned.

>Jowgen isn't needed much anymore unless your region/locals has a lot of BE players.

Yeah my locals only has two ABC and at least 3 or 4 PKBA though even still I was thinking about just changing out jowgen for main deck Maxx c.

>using 2 Mithrillium over the Level 10 fusion.

When my Mithirllium comes in, I was just going to drop one orihalk. You don't think the 10 is worth keeping in even just to get mileage out of Alkehist's second effect?
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>>160128623
How do you summon Nirvana though?

I'd run Maxx "C" over Jowgen, it's better for both of those matchups. You can always side it for BE anyways, which is what I'm doing.

I just think a 3K/3K vanilla isn't worth holding in the deck. It's not worth more than Dweller or Castel. Speaking of your extra deck, I would also recommend dropping Scarlight. I never really used him much personally, but if you use him then it might be fine, I'm just saying that I had him in my extra for a while and whenever I could have gone into him it was better to go into other things.
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>>160125765
GX

>>160126446
Mainly Monster Reborn, even if it is banned
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>>160126895
diamond.deck
untargetable, unaffectable monsters that can float into bigger versions of them
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>>160129328
that sounds cool
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>>160128207
The Rat engine makes the deck inherently faster and gives you easier access to Drago (just Norden + a Predator plant).
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>>160129220

Just pendulum summon a Steelrin and tune it with any of my synchros. Silverbird if I play moonlight.

>It's not worth more than Dweller or Castel

I had those in for a while but I haven't gone into rank 4 in weeks, and when I did have to, one lightning was enough for the situation.

>I would also recommend dropping Scarlight.

Yeah hes defiantly the next on the chopping block after Nirvana if I feel like I really need something else, but a lot of people at my locals over extend with no protection so I feel like hes just a nice thing to have.
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>>160129778
>1 Tuner + 1 or more non-Tuner Synchro Monsters
Which one of these are Steelen/Silverd according to you?
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>>160129328
>floating Majespecters
That is some really bad cac tier shit. Kill yourself.
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>>160129778
But Steeleren isn't a Tuner... Nirvana says 1 Tuner and 1 Non-Tuner Synchro monster.

You auto-win the PKBA matchup if you run Dweller. They won't be able to do anything during the two turns you use it. It's worth running, I play against a PKBA player every week who is a good friend and he pretty much scoops if I get it out. Castel is if you need to get rid of something like ASF or something problematic.
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>>160129932
>>160130031

Nirvana can use any pendulum summoned monster as a tuner
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>>160129932
I know we're on /dng/, but can you try to read?
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>>160129979
considering how hard konami is powercreeping the game i kinda expect them at some point
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>>160130098
Damn, you're right. My bad then, wew.
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>>160124626
breaksword deserves a spot here, you can use it to pop your own set combination to get more shit and castel/dweller seem like better picks than nirvana. maybe even moonlight.
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>>160129671
The rat engine makes even exodia a faster and more viable deck. That thing will get emergency banlisted here for a reason
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>Drew ANOTHER copy of the chemshitter xyz boss

Why is everything in this pack a quarter dollar junk holo or a 60 dollar metafuck?
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>>160129778
Why are you ignoring your steam inbox ?
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What cards even are these? The seller doesn't know how to spell, and their camera is shit. Are they most likely fake?
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>>160130693
from top right: don't know, road warrior, metaphys horus, an earthbound immortal, herald of perfections, el shaddol shekinaga, startdust sifir, shooting quasar, destiny end dragoon, another shekinaga, herald of ultimateness, heavy freight train derricraine, don't know, apoqliphort towers, don't know, another earthbound, divine neos, another earthbound
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>>160130461
>Buying product over singles
That is why you fail.
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>>160130391

Break sword totally does deserve a spot, but I don't want to buy it.

>>160130031

I guess I'll take out scarlight and shove dweller back in. I play against PKBA every week and they always let me +5 off of maxx c and end on a weak board.
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>>160130693
Herald of Ultimateness (ugh)
Road Warrior
Mecha Phantom Beast Jaculustan
Earthbound Immortal Chacu Challhua
Herald of Perfection
Majestic Star Dragon
Shooting Quasar Dragon
Destiny End Dragoon
El Shaddoll Shekelnigga
Heavy Freight Train Derricrane
Apoqliphort Towers
Cappac Apu
Divine Neos

c'mon, it's like you're new
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>>160130886
*top left
Evidently i am a total wanker
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>>160130886
Fenrir the Nordic Wolf
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>>160130949
I have the luck of a godess

This pack is shit
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>>160131185
You are shit at pulling .
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>>160130435
I don't know if it's emergency banlist worthy, sure it's overpowered but that's manly because everyone and their mother can play that engine it's not broken like PePe.
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>>160130435
I doubt it.

>>160130461
Jewnami USA, also >>160130949
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>>160130949
>got a yugi megatin
>first cards i bought in years
>solemn strike and twin twisters
>over doubled my money
feels pretty good
Singles are gonna be the cheapest unless you buy a crap tonne of packs or have really good luck, yeah. But buying packs has its appeal
>>
>Fluffals
>Predaplants
>Lunalight
>Melodious
It's sure a great time to be a fusionfag.
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>>160131303
In great at pulling your man away from you, biche

I'm gonna wait ou the rest until next pack for speedroid support
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>>160131505
SHOUKANJUU
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>>160131505
All of that is rubbish mate .
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>>160131365
>>160131385

>60% of the meta
>Still a pretty broken card
>In a pack one week after a structure which isn't part of the OCG meta, therefore will affect the sales

It's basically EmEM all over again. Konami is already manipulating the list on its whim to lucrate with the game.
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>>160131634
Delete that
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>>160131505

>Predaplant
>Lunalight
>Fluffal

What the fuck was KoA thinking?
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>>160131549
What man ?
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>>160130435
I know.

It doesn't stop me from using rat until then, though
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>>160131505
>It's sure a great time to be a fusionfag
>doesn't even list any of the remotely decent fusion decks
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>>160131778
Bamboo horse mainly
But also omk gum and the synchro pendulum Dragon
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>>160131769
>reddit subs
I had faith in you Numbers. Apparently its true the only tripfags left are hugbox shitters.
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>>160131945

Nigga they are literally the first ones out.
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>>160129671
Why no re-fusion?
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>>160131634
>>160131905
They're trash cards that suit me perfectly.
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>>160131845
She is into fusion users that don't use rat
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Bahamut's getting banned and Terrortop's getting limited next list, mark my words
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>>160133080
Terrortop is between limited and banned, so you may be wrong if it gets banned
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>>160133080

Chou yuugou to one please
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>>160132467
anon please delete this, you can clearly see part of her areola
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>>160126895
Wicked God.dek

Konami please. How you gonna give support to Egyptian Gods but not support to the Wicked Gods
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>>160133618
Do you think I wouldn't have deleted after noticing it if I knew how to?
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>>160132174
Norden is always in my extra thanks to Fusion sub. The only fusions left in my grave are dead Dragos and Rafflesias which can be brought back through Graft.

>>160132467
>implying she doesn't use Rat in her own deck
>>
>>160126895
TIAME WIZARD
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>>160133080
When should the next list come out anyway? January? February?
>>
>>160133080
Both being banned would be better, but alright

>>160133670
Because nobody read that garbage
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>spend 2017 on GX nostalgia support and get another 50 worthless Hero cards
>spend 2018 on 5Ds nostaliga support and get another 50 worthless Blackwings
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>>160133360
they'll limit it because speedroid variants won't be tooooo fucked with it at 1, they can search and mill it pretty easily

>>160133997
when was the last one? jan seems reasonable

>>160134030
nah limited top is fine, they might ban it, who knows
>>
WHAT'S THE MOST FUN DECK IN THE WHOLE WIDE WORLD
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>>160135101
It's still better than what they did with DM nostalgia support.
The only worthwhile deck from that mess was Blue-eyes and then we got the helmet cancer that is ABC.
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>>160129671
got any replays of this? kinda interested in seeing how this works outside of rat spam :^)
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>>160135380
Magician Odd-Eyes featuring Majespecter/Performapal/Dracos.
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>>160135101
>more blackwing cards
please god no, they already have around 60+ cards
>>
>>160135380
D/D/D
HAVE FUN FIGURING OUT WHAT THE FUCK TO DO
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>>160135548
I'VE TRIED D/D/D SO MANY TIMES, I HAVE NO IDEA WHERE THE FUCK TO START WITH THEM. THEY LOOK SO COOL BUT FUCK
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>>160133670
Each god should get their own deck
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>>160135698
http://roadoftheking.com/dd-basic-combo
http://roadoftheking.com/dd-advance-combo
http://roadoftheking.com/dd-beatrice-combo
http://roadoftheking.com/dd-3-card-combo-reference-sheet
I FOUND THESE BY ACCIDENT, HAVE FUN
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>>160135101
There will be at least a couple worthwhile Heros gotten out of it. Also, I'm really excited to see how worthless and short lived the 5ds support is going to be
>>
>>160135548
>>160135698
>>160135791
TOOK ME PRETTY MUCH A LONG TIME TO FIGURE OUT. THE DECK REALLY REQUIRES SKILL; IT DIDN'T PLAY BY ITSELF LIKE ABC AND I FELT PRETTY NOOBISH FIGURING OUT HOW TO USE IT
>>
>>160135101
but anon imagine all the cyber dragon support and all the new stardust/red dragons we will get
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>>160098089
>>
Which AI deck is best for evaluating if you should take your deck into Online mode? ABC's because they're the most recent?
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>>160135791
THANK YOU
>>160136014
DO YOU HAVE A DECKLIST MY FRIEND?
>>
>>160100937
Nowadays casual YGO is fun tho'.
>>
>>160135498
Can confirm, Performapal Odd-Eyes Magicians makes me feel chuuni again. Also being able to say "pendulum 5" and know you have game is fun.
>>
>>160135698
I didn't understand how to play noids at all so I thought it was just dekatron into Synchro.dek
>>
>>160136061
Elemental HERO Cyber Dragon Buster and Blackwing - Dracon the Stardust?
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>>160135434
I'll get some replays sometime tonight.

I didn't save any of the duels I had yesterday and today. sorry.....
>>
>>160136206
JUST USE THE ONE THAT COMES WITH THE YGOPRO IN THE OP
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>>160135380
let me show you what fun looks like
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>has existed since 2014
>was never anything but rogue until 2016 but still got out topped by other decks
>gets hit on the banlist despite going back to rogue because ABC is too stronk.
>doesn't even get good support anymore since anime is cucking Reiji to death
>even if Slime and Lamia go back to 3 it won't matter since once again, the deck is simply outclassed by everything else again
>caught the Nebra Disk virus so will never be relevant in the TCG because it came too late

What deck got cucked more than D/D? This is just too much.
>>
WHY ARE WE YELLING
>>
>>160136334
I'M WAITING
>>
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>>160136464
forgot image
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>>160136206
I MODIFIED THE YGOPRO TO MY BUDGED AND TCG ONLY CARDS. BASICALLY WAS MORE FUSION-FOCUSED THAN THE SYNCHRO ONE OCG IS USING, BUT I ALSO PUT GLOW-UP-BULB FOR SYNCHRO. AS MUCH AS LAMIA WILL MAKE IT A LOT BETTER, THE SEARCHING IT HAS IS INSANE AND WITH GOOD INSIGHTFUL PREDICTS, META VIABLE.
>>
>>160136061
>imagine all the garbage we will get
Doesn't help
>>
>>160136508
I DON'T KNOW SHIT ABOUT EVILSWARM, BUT I'LL GIVE IT A GO
>>
>>160136350
THE RECENT ANIME SUPPORT IS PRETTY GOOD THOUGH, BUT FOR THE WRONG REASONS. WE ALREADY GOT TWO NEW CONTRACTS TO STOP THE OPPONENT FROM PLAYING THE GAME AND ONE OF THOSE EVEN STOPS TRIBUTE SUMMONING.
>>
>>160129231
But it makes sense to not include banned cards, especially something like monster reborn that's been printed 20 different times. Even if they do decide to bring it off the list soon, it won't be difficult to find like Allure.
>>
>>160136430
THAT'S NOT YELLING. THIS IS YELLING!
>>
>>160136350
PKs and SRs, especially SRs
>>
>>160136430
WE AREN'T YELLING, B-BAKA!
>>
>>160136350
Noble knights are the most cucked deck
>>
>>160135101
It's not all bad, Cyber Dragons and Dark Worlds could get support.
>>
>>160136430
I CAN'T HEAR YOU
>>
>>160137116
>cyber dragon infinity+1
>structure deck daRk woRld
wew
>>
>>160137116
>garbage and garbage could get support
Thanks
>>
>>160137319
>>160118054
>>
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post >yfw when Roids become t0 with GX support
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NumbersHunter, where do you buy your weaksauce cards?
>>
How do I ENJOY ?
>>
What tier would full power Infernity be in today's meta?
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>>160137519
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>>160137519
>>
>>160137452
I'm sorry that you like garbage, anon.

>>160137519
They could easily make the Solidroids Super ABCs, though I doubt that will happen.

>>160137813
Why?
>>
>>160137734
Play complex decks and for the love of yusei don't play helmet decks
>>
>>160137964
i hate their design
>>
>>160138050
Are cardians helmet?
>>
>>160137739
Yet another RPS-deck that WILL win if it goes first, but doesn't stand a chance masturbating through your opponent's stunshit fields.
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>Plus/Minus become tier 0
>>
can dark world still be a thing?
>>
>>160137305
AYE AYE CAPTAIN
>>
>>160138325
>>160137519
Hope you fags are actually prepared for Tier 0jama after they can 90% open with blocking all 5 of your monster zones.
>>
>>160136715
its literally the EASIEST fucking deck in the game nigger, sit on ophion and backrow
>>
>>160138110
Why? And I take it that includes the Solids?
>>
>>160138325
>Becomes a Gemini deck that gains 1 effect without being Gemini Summoned instead of being Normal Monsters, and gains a different, better effect when double-summoned, to represent the +/-

Make it happen Konami
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>>160138220
No
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>>160137709

I haven't bought any since Infected was new. All I have are my piruruku deck made from like cards from the first two sets and two unopened Starter decks.

I have no idea where to get singles now but you can just get the starter decks from amazon.
>>
>>160138495
I'm realizing that after testing it
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>>160138678
I have movie Ultih and the Iona starters but I wanted to collect more waifu cards desu
>>
>>160138798
Singles I believe is tcg player for america and yugiohcardmarket in europe, don't know about elsewhere
>>
new thread NOW
>>
>>160112421
a cyber angel deck with 60 cards
>>
>>160123252
i can see ASF limited for the glorius fusion meta age
>>
>>160139426
or, they'll just make more monsters with built in poly effects

maybe even ones with combo'd poly and self-special summon dual effects
>>
Please don't ban floodgates
Limiting solemn is fine but I still have PTSD from when Macro, Fissure and Soul Drain went to one.
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>>160139602
Every floodgate should go to one.
>>
I still don't know why Vanities is allowed, even with it's own built in self destruct clause it just steals too many games for me, especially in a meta where going first means I can set up a huge board with little to no interference and then just flip vanities making you depend on drawing TT.
>>
>all those fags getting outskilled by backrow
Just summon Jinzo
>>
>>160139817
But my opponent played Mask Of Restrict
>>
>>160138325
Did we ever have a meta with each one of the attributes having a good deck?
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>>160135380
Funimals!
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>>160139908
Reasoning ;)
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>>160140107
This format is close, but Qlis and their anti-meta stunshit are starting to crumble.
>>
>>160140252
why did they get translated as furnimal/fluffal instead of funimal?
>>
>>160139594
fusion and pendulum age
>>
>>160140252
That thumbnail looks a lot like Super Blue Saiyan Vegeta surrounded by chibi versions of the rest of the Z Fighters, and fuck you for that not being the truth
>>
>play ai
>set 2 cards
>nothing
>set macro
>ai instantly activates mst
what the fuck.
>>
>>160141078
ai does that, instantly msts field spells all the time
>>
page 10 you niggers
>>
>>160141078
that's what the AI does, it will MST the last card you set
>>
new >>160141698
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>>160141078
AI is /tg/-levels of bad at card games.
but yes, AI always mst continuous or Field cards asap.
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>>160138483
It'll go a step further it will also lock spell and trap card zones and it will have tribute proof effect.
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