/civ4xg/ - Civilization, Stellaris, Endless and 4X Games General

DRUGS ARE BAD

>>159989396
*pours coffee on you*

Does having negative ethics divergence eventually cause pops with different ethics to change back to yours?

>>159989396
I am fond of drugs.

>>159989545
pls don't abuse my substance

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>>159989545
>when you realize Coffee is a drug because it includes caffeine which is toxic in high quantities and affects the mind

Hello.
What kind of music do you listen to while playing?
I like to listen to jazz, or when I feel like getting REALLY crazy, I listen to a podcast

>>159989965
I catch up on my youtube and soundcloud subscriptions or watch/download porn.

Am I a casual for only playing online speed?

>>159989965
Music varies too much, but I otherwise put on youtube on the other monitor or a podcast. Helps burn through my backlog with how long games go on for.

>>159989396
>>159989545
>>159989615
>>159989640
I'm high ama

>>159991881
are you high?

>>159992002
Yeah dude

will there ever be a fantasy 4x as good as master of magic?

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>>159989589
Anyone? Bls resbond

Why is city bombardment so op? I've lost my whole army to city bombardment. I installed Vox populis, but disabled the mods, did it somehow alter the values of city bombarment? This is stupid, man.

>>159994951
Also, what's a mod that balances the science per turn and production? I hate having a tech require the same amount of turns it takes to produce a unit. Playing Civ 5.

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Yeeeaaah

Yeeeaaah

What civ 6 mods you guys running? Should we get a recommended mod list going for these generals?

Currently using:
AI+
Better Unique Improvements
District Cost Mod
Divine Yuri's City Panel
Great Work Slot Plus
Improved Tech Tree
Improved Water Yields
Moar Units Mod
Next City Plot
Smoother Difficulty
TCS More Barbarian XP
Unit Report Screen

>>159996068
I'm running uninstall.exe

>>159995042
The city's defense is 71, and it's taking out my cannons and muskets in one hit, is that right? How the fuck do I take the city?

>STILL can't raze capitals
Can I edit a value or something to allow me to raze capitals?
This is just fucking ridiculous, I don't want my enemy's shitty cities.

>>159996068

>gameplay-altering mods

Disgusting.

>>159996362
>the current civ vi gameplay is perfect! No issues at all!

>>159996721

>this 16 year old on civfanatics can surely balance one of the most complex games every made!

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>>159996849
>one of the most complex games every made!

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>>159996849

>>159997069
>>159997124

Enjoy your shit balance.

>>159996849
they can certainly do better balance than the civ crew, which doesn't seem to balance the game at all

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>>159997165
Same to you my meming frined

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>>159989545

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>>159996721
No, but as a person with a shitload of experience of using mods in a lot of different games throughout the years I'd N E V E R use anything beyond UI altering/general quality of life improvements. "Serious" mods are never good and I've yet to find an exception maybe OOO, but the main game is just a pile of rubbish

>>160000909
CBP made Civ 5 an objectively better game
There's no reason mods can't do that for Civ 6

>>160000909
>I'd N E V E R use anything beyond UI altering/general quality of life improvements
So brave. Now fuck off back to pleddit.

Did they un-fuck the civ6 AI with mods?

any mods that make civ playable yet? I want longer eras

>>160001675
>>160001709
No.

>>159992027
XD ebin

>>160001709
http://forums.civfanatics.com/resources/civ-6-improvements-patch.25433/

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>>159997390
That looks like spilled coke, not coffee. Wait... Are you trying to trick me?

>>160001837
Any official patches on the horizon?

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>>160002084

>>160002031
Fug well peace out

>>160001548
you guys love embarrassing yourself, do you

So why's civ still not on consoles? I think it's casual and simplistic enough to be played with a gamepad, not to mention that it's turn-based so they micro shit doesn't matter that much. Maybe firaxis would actually be able to afford finishing their games too

>>160002836
>micro shit doesn't matter that much
It actually matters a lot especially in late game, unless you fancy 30 minutes of menuing each turn. Interface is already bad as it is with keyboard controls.

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>>160002836
they tried

it didn't go well

How are carriers in Stellaris? Should I bother?

>legions all get 1 build to remove forest, jungle, marsh

god damn

>>160003040
In version 1.3? Their fighters and bombers still go down like a bitch to PD, Flak, Flak, and did I mention Flak? Don't bother with Strike Craft or Point Defense, just get Flak Cannons and bigger guns.

>>160003040
Garbage, fighters work for PD before you get flak, after that they are completely irrelevant. They need serious speed, damage and PD evasion buffs to be worth considering

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Ask anything Civ 6-related or Stellaris-related. CIA's word is final.
No bullies & masketta men pls.

>>160004127
will civ 6 be fixed this year

>>160004127
Will stellaris ever be good

>>160004127
Will we get a patch for civ 6 in november?

>>160004127
Will Pedro ever fuck off?

>>160004271
>Only clear answer so far
It just works.

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>You have much that I do not! Do you want your people taken as slaves?
What did he mean by this?

>>160004127
Can you go fuck yourself?

>>160004890
He's jealous and will declare war soon.

I just got endless legend. New to this type of game. I won a game on hard as the vaulters.

Any tips for playing other races?

>>160005413
Play Drakken, settle on a ruin.
Take your entire army in the direction of the closest enemy capital while making a drakkenling. Declare war with the influence you got from the ruin, capture the capital because your starting units are brick shithouses that can shit all over pretty much everyone else except Necrophages. Capture as many capitals as you want for a comfy game. GG

>>160005413
Play necrophages. Get a commander with the "reduced upkeep" ability. Get the fat worms that spit. Enjoy your 125/6 army sizes and units that auto-upgrade when you get to a new tech tier.

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>>160005756
Not him, but what about Doshlords? What's the comfiest way to play as Doshlords?

>>160005995
Make a custom doshlord faction, if I remember right the default doshlords don't even use all of their points. Other than that you can play wide as fuck, beeline dust techs, settle everywhere and make dat money.

>>160005995
suprisingly, custom dustlords with industry focus. Just research dust techs, but settle on industry.

It works well, even when you don't start on a desert.

>>160000000

How do I play the forgotten well? I like custom factions but I have no idea how to build them.

At the base they are just stealth units, buy tech with dust, and dual-wielding archers aren't they?

>>160006326
>forgotten
>Never put your heros in armies
>Send them off to be thieving little bastards
>Buy shit that no one else has
>Acquire all the techs
>Conquering is okay, but pillage the shit out of EVERYTHING
>Like once they can't fight back, nonstop, never ending

Tl:dr
You are an army of fucking thieves, act like it

Tell me about Tempest.
Did it fix everything wrong with EL?

>medium galaxy still becomes unplayable by 2400s
Bravo Johann.

>>160006775
Nope, it's another one of those "we add a feature and exactly one faction that can utilise it properly" expansions, just like Shadows. Also new sea thingies let you get loads of resources without even researching proper techs, simply by controlling the seas.

>>160006890
why unplayable? Is it because you are using a potato?

>>160007035
No it's because it's single threaded

>>160007035
You can't play video games on a potato.

>>160007081
runs fine for me even on large galaxies

>>160007035
>>160007128
Not him but I'm running a 6770k at 4.9 plus a 980ti implying grafix matters and it lagged to shit on large by 2450 in 1.1
I haven't touched it since though so maybe it got optimized.

Has anyone here played Warlock - Master of the Arcane?

I just stumbled on it in my steam library and I don't know what to think about it. The controls are a little wacky.

>>160007035
I'm running it on a 4670k .
You tell me.
It lags to shit on large when 2400s come.
Even on medium the game can go to shit if there are many splintered AI empires and the war in heaven make them all go to war.
You tell me.

>>160007184
yup I had issues back then but I've not had any lag issues for a while now, not sure if it's been since 1.2 but definitely before 1.3 came out

>>160007241
is it just battle that are larger or everything?

>>160003040
Not to mention that the huge fighter range puts your fleet in "combat speed mode" until every shitty mining station in the system is dead, it's a pain in the ass.

>>160007325
>"combat speed mode" until every shitty mining station in the system is dead,
this annoys me so much especially when there is an incoming enemy fleet

Endless legend:

is it just me or do both the industry and food ai govenor just put all of your people into industry?

Is there any actual intelligence behind these governors at all?

So I guess I should just stick with PD/Flak and tons of kinetics/artillery/ and plasma. Thanks.

>>160007505
Rule of thumb : in all strategy games, from grand strategy to RTS, and including 4x, all your underlings are retarded.

>get a glitch where my units aren't healing
>now forever paranoid they won't heal

>>160007537
Is there some mod that fixes this? I can't imagine it would be too hard:

Just have like...priority orders. As many people in industry to get the "turns till done" down to a minimum, then put the rest in science/dust/influence?

ALso: is it just me or does production not carry over if you finish something? It's most noticable on huge cities.

>>159997390
MINAH WHAT THE FUCK?!?!?!

>>160007529
>PD

PD is useful on Destroyers (put PDs on the DD's ass section, weapons on the front) but forces you to use shitty hardpoint sections on Cruisers and BBs.

As soon as you get flak, PD is basically obsolete since you can put Flak on any M-sized hardpoint and not have to resort to shitty PD/Hangar sections on the bigger ships.

So I'm really new to this game and I find myself really struggling early on, between the slow building of districts and the like and constantly having to churn out units to fight the seemingly endless amount of barbarians even when I destroy their camps I always feel like I start falling behind, God forbid a random AI/Player decides to start something too. Is there any solid tips for thriving early game?

>>160008004
I do have to research my way through all tiers of PD before I can get Flak, don't I? PD is still good enough until I get there.

>>160008062
How is the ship design/fighting in the new one?

Is it the "long range bullets only" style of the old game?

>>160008062
Last I checked, you get Flak by researching the Autocannon line. But since PD usually pops up earlier and is researched in Physics rather than Engineering, you can stick to using PD Destroyers until you get Flak.

>>160008171
I think it's a bit more balanced in general now, especially since Tachyon spam is (I think) far less, if not, no longer viable.

Long-range big guns for both softening the enemy and taking down their big ships.

Smaller, close-range and high-tracking weapons to take down smaller ships.

>>160008281
Speaking of Autocannons, I wonder if Autocannon cruisers can deal with corvettes good enough to drop destroyers alltogether.

>>160008281
You also get flak by releasing a half-baked game with shitty quotes.

>>160008486
ZING
hai reddit

>>160008514
What's reddit?

How do i get units to embark on the sea?

>>160009140
Talking about civ6

>>160009140
shipbuilding

>>160009331
I try to chain my units with ships but i cant move the ships then

>>160008374
I think DDs might have a higher tracking stat in general compared to Cruisers, but I'm not completely sure.

>corvettes can't mount PD
Bravo Johan.

>>160009502
+10 tracking is not much a counter to corvettes when destroyers cant speedtank medium weapons or mount any real defenses

I usually skip destroyers and spam corvettes instead

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>greece is spamming missionaries
> converting my cites religion to his
> warned him not too
> broken that promise twice

Why can't I holy war him? I would love to just use apostles but I cant because my capital with the holy site is now his religion.

Hi guys I just bought civ 6. I have played over 250 hours of civ 5. Any useful information or tips I should know?

What's the best take-all-comers fleet comp?
I tried vettes + BB but they get murdered.
Does the 6 medium plasma cruiser spam meme actually work?

>>160011250
Get a refund

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Post your RP and/or meme-tier empires.

>>160007241

Don't play games on toasters then. Alienware Alpha is the bare minimum one should use.

>>160011614
>numale hair/beard
No.

>>160011398
this

>>160011791
Well, I can't give him medieval-style long hair and beard, sadly.

>>160011786
Why would you post such a shitty post?
Delete this and start over.

>>160011250
if you are pro, get a refund
for filthy casual like me its fun

barbarians are full jihad by default and everyone will hate you for no reason whatsoever.
dont explore too much if you plan to fight. they cant hate you if they dont know about you

and religious wars is the new cancer. you cant stop them because they are all civilians and they will swarm you. like every 20 rounds dozen at time

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I've found that dealing with a slow trickle of apostles is easy, just sleep an Apostle of your own on your holy site and watch them all beeline straight there only to die in the pointless attrition of theological combat because you get stupid healing from being on your holy site, but of course the AI is just going to shit out dozens of Apostles at once and swarm you most of the time

honestly the Religious victory is far was than Democratic victory was in V

Religious beliefs seem weak but raw faith purchasing great people seems pretty fucking underrated

>>160014110
it seems to take a huge investment beyond the first round of great people, the prices get astronomically high that you would need holy site in every city, or a really good faith pantheon like aurora.

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>>160005995
>What's the comfiest way to play as Doshlords?
River in a desert.

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>>160006775
>Did it fix everything wrong with EL?
Yes. Pic related.

>>160011162
You need the diplomatic service civic to declare holy wars

Space faring eternal end cultists for endless space 2, who's with me on this?

>>160015162
Holy fucking shit.

>>160007214
>The controls are a little wacky.
What? It's a standard as stone 4X.

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>>160015521
The devs, apparently.

>>160014678

but it's not the great people, you can literally shit out military units with faith and theocracy

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>>160011614

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God, war in Stellaris is so fucking tedious. It almost always comes down to crushing their fleet in one battle, then slowly conquering enough planets to get enough warscore while they throw tiny fleets at you or try to take planets back with a single transport ship. Warscore costs are off the rails too, you literally can't liberate more than three planets in a single war so this shit just drags on forever. Add in the late game lag and it makes me want to kill myself.

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>>160011614

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>>160011614

>>160016389
used to be worse
you'd crush their main fleet and they'd disappear for years while you conquered their planets and then an enormous fleet of theirs would pop into your capital system and destroy your station and occupy your homeworld

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>>160016389
War in 4X is always shit.

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>>160011614

>>160016394
kek

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>>160017150

>>160017310
*tips fedora*

>>160017310
>Pathetic

>>160017310
I'd like a system like total war where you have a brief summary of that civ's personality and whether or not they'll backstab you.

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Anyone know why I can't build a bath/aquaduct in the part circled?

>>160020259
No existing building?

>Prethorym consuming half the galaxy
>neighbour awoken empire declares war on me as soon as my fleet tries to stop the swarm

I wish there was a way to lure the zerg to those backstabbing birds and their 160k fleet of rape.

>>160021451
MEANWHILE, IN DISTANT WORLDS
>find a large space port belonging to a race who's hostile to me, on the verge of declaring war
>could attack it, but it would be expansive
>put a bounty on it
>pirates attack it
>it's destroyed
>FeelsGoodMan.webm

I realy like stellaris but as much as I want to finish a game I just cant. Its mostly like this:
>have a nice idea for a race
>start game
>build some mines
>make energy on home planet
>build some spaceships
>gets borring
>restart with new race or just stop playing

what can I do against this, I think my biggest problem is that I want to have an perfect empire

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>>160021451
>unbidden spawn near an awoken FE
>unbidden wiped out within a few years

>>160021985
That's why I don't play long games anymore, and why I never finished a Total War campaign.

>>160021985
I know your pain. Even in the games I come close towards endgame I always quit before I even hit an endgame crisis because of the terrible lag you get. But making a galaxy with very few AIs would probably be boring and knowing how bad Paradox is at optimization it'll probably lag anyway.

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Here is pile of shit that the game gave me as a galaxy. That grey blob is a militant isolationist stagnant ascendancy. I have a 24 gaia and several 20+ worlds near by. Should I even bother with this? I already have border friction with them without any expansion.

>>160022939
if you want a mid - late game opponent play it out, the multiple nice planets will help you conquer nearby shitters and power up quickly

>>160023365

Lets see how long I can go before they declare war on me. Will give updates every hour or so.

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>>160021985
>have a nice idea for a race
>start game
>this is my start
>quit

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> decide to play on Deity to see if I can do it
>everyone has ten thousand missionaries
>ten thousand units
>always 1 or 2 tech and cultural levels ahead of you
>spam cities at the speed of light, entire continent is filled by 2500 BC completely ruining any comfy feels
>complete every wonder

This... this just isn't very fun. Emperor was the same thing until late game though, I guess below that is the best bet to actually play the game.

>>160023731
>Not wanting to expand outward from your little corner of your galaxy
Fag

>>160023731
that looks comfy though

why the FUCk can't food be imported to planets

why do you need local food production

>>160023731
show me your race please

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Europe is a MESS. Europe is a MISTAKE. A big, fat MESS.

>>160024482
Because FUCK YOU, WE'RE NOT STAR RULER 2

>>160024482
there is a mod for importing/exporting food between your own planets
dunno how well it works, never used it myself but here
http://stellaris.smods.ru/archives/4061
http://steamcommunity.com//workshop/filedetails/?id=793754693

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>>160024523
I basically planned to play as a science-focused empire that wants to enlighten the galaxy. And by enlighten I mean pushing forwards science while crushing spiritualist fools, enslaving vile Xenos and using them and robots as the bulk of their armies. Uplifting useful xenos and slaughtering the unworthy ones.
Note that I'm using a mod that allows me to start on a barren planet, but that breaks the leader window so I changed my homeworld to tropical for this picture.

>>160002892
>it didn't go so well
It was universally praised and normies played the shit out of it. Honestly they should make another Civ-lite to help consolefags get into strategy games.

Is there a Civ 6 mod that lets me scroll the camera back further yet?

Why the fuck do they restrict it so heavily? I don't care if the fucking camels need to stop animating or something, I just want to see the whole map.

>>160025306
nice thanks for showing me, I think i will try that out.

>>160024482
Every 4x game that refuses to do this INCLUDING CIV 6 can suck my fucking dick. Why the fuck do you build a trader unit. There should be a god damn trade screen or overlay, and instead of creating magic food and production it could just show me surplus from what ever city and let me move it out.

>you will never get to create a bunch of comfy farming cities using production from a mega city, then pump food into it and have it shit out production

>>160025693
STAR RULER 2

You have PLANETS dedicated to producing food and exporting it.

>>160025978
>STAR RULER 2
Are there government options?

>>160026125
Only starting bonuses. Diplomacy is also extremely weird in Star Ruler 2. It's pretty peculiar.

But if you want ressources to move around in your empire, that's the game you want. I guess.
Try a demo first.

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i need help with oil wells. i wanna make two of em in areas with oil but i'm no getting the option to do it. am i missing something?

>>160020691
Nothing there but plains. All the other districts other than encampment can also go there. Maybe a special resource under it I can't yet see, and bath doesn't give it?
Guess I'll find out later on.

>>160026540
One word to say to you, just one word. Plastics.

>>160026828
ooooooooooooooh. Is that what i need to research? Well that explains it. Thanks for not telling me that game.much appreciated.

>>160024786
thanks

now WHAT THE FUCK is a good loadout for defensive stations

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Trying to play a game of Civ, trying not to fap. New game out so I've finally escaped the clutches of Mistress Catherine of Russia (every time she went Aesthetics, anyway) tearing down my walls and dominating my culture. Maybe I can finally just play, right?

>Spartan woman whose resting "Denounced" pose makes it look like conquering my civ is her biggest sexual turn-on (pic related)
>Smug Egyptian queen with gorgeous sideboob who literally taunts me about my size (denouncement reason: "You are weak") as she prepares to divide up my lands
>Wicked French-Italian queen who seems to want to convert my civilization to devout Catholic slaves every time she's in my game
>Only slightly annoying English queen who looks like she's fitting me for a frilly white dress
>Scythian horse chick who is a little too armored for my tastes but is definitely the aggressive type
>Worst of all: the game still has multiple DLCs / expansion packs to go, and future installments will probably include more female leaders to even out the gender ratio

Civ

Why u do dis

>>160027548
Depends on what you wanna do with them.
A typical set-up would be a tank station with an FTL snare surrounded by stations full of L weapons to fuck enemy fleets up or at least slow them down. Single defense stations are little more than a stepping stone for any decent fleet, but they can be useful to stop the enemy coming at you with tiny fleets, or single transporters that try to reconquer worlds. Also stops them from rebuilding ports if you place them on top of the world. Sometimes the AI is even dumb enough to just suicide tons of science and construction ships into them.
But the number one rule for war in Stellaris is to go balls-to-the-walls aggressive, blowup their biggest fleet and then fuck up their space ports. After that, it's just tediously conquering their planets until you get enough warscore..

>>160026312
I should just learn how to code and make my own game

And get good at art

And modeling

And know how to program AIs

Kill me

>Cossacks 3 finally has a mod manager
>standards bearers are now possible
YES! YES!

Still a far cry from American Conquest, but it's an improvement.

>>160028745
Or you can detail the game you want, and we try to suggest you a game close to your ideal.
It won't be perfect, but it'll be a start.

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Cool? Am I fucking up big time by settling on a potential quarry?

>>160028881
Not really, you're fucking up big time because you're settling right on the coast.
Why not just settle between science and industry?

>>160028792
Government options, sort of like Civ 4, but Civ 6 does it well enough I guess. Civ 4 has always been my ideal.

Ability to move production/food around, or some form of global food production system

4x

That's basically it.

>>160028881
>river nearby
>not settling on it

JUST

>>160028881
Quarries suck but there's no reason you shouldn't settle on that river.

>>160029038
Well, I'm sorry, I don't know.
I barely played Civ4, and I don't think there's any 4x with a global food production.

For the governement thing, maybe Distant Worlds, but governements are limited to bonus/malus and don't affect how they react to you, and there's no food system.

>>160028520
>not liking horse waifu

the worst of waifu wars is yet to come though, i have no doubt they'll bring catherine back as russia's alternate leader, and i'm sure they'll emphasize her "assets" yet again

>>160029214
There was this one 4x I played years ago, saw it on steam and it was like an alpha centauri spiritual successor. It had global production which was actually pretty fucking rad, but I can't for the life of me remember what it was called. Fuck

>>160026716
>>160020259

Here is the real answer.

Aqueducts/baths MUST be placed on, in addition to the stated conditions of being next to your city and also adjacent to a river or mountain, a tile where the actual 3D model can lead from the fresh water source to your city. The tile you circled in red is directly opposite across the banks from your city and thus a bath/aqueduct cannot bring water to your city.

This is the cancer that grows when you let the animation/modeling team take over.

>>160029397
>years ago
Wew, lad. I'm more into RTS than 4x, so if you don't tell me more...

How was the title? One word or more? Anything distinct about the game? 3D or 2,5D? How was the human faction called? How much wood can a wood chuck chuck if a wood chuck could

>>160029425
Ahh right, that makes sense. Cheers. Also seems that baths can't be made on floodplains, nor can any other district I was able to try.

>>160029565
It must have been 2.5, top down 4x, weird aliens... Dont' worry about it anon, I appreciate the thought

>>160029612
If you are not Egypt, only very special wonders can go on Floodplains, otherwise you will just have to farm it all.

If you are Egypt you can build any district on floodplains.

>>160029692
>weird aliens
That's vague. How weird? As weird as the one in Star Control 2? Or just vaguely humanoids just like in Space Rangers?

>>160029901
I remember them being... green, bug like, maybe

One of the earliest units you can make is a buggy, I think. Kek. That's mostly what I remember.

>>160030034
>4X
>buggy
I'm lost.

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Why is Cleopatra white? Everybody knows that egyptian pharaohs were black!

>>160031065
i never realized until now how extremely unattractive this would be. right now she's basically the cuck-lover's wet dream with how she loves big strong civs and hates weaklings, but i don't think anyone would like that aspect of her if she looked like this

>>160028520
femdom sparta waifu best waifu

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Will I be able to harvest those whales or am I screwed because it's outside of the 3 tile radius of the city?

>>160032097
cities can only work tiles within radius 3
in theory if your borders expanded enough you could build fishing boats, which would get you the resource since they're a luxury, but you can't buy past 3 range so you'd have to wait for borders to expand naturally.

>>160028520
>>Spartan woman whose resting "Denounced" pose makes it look like conquering my civ is her biggest sexual turn-on (pic related)
>>Smug Egyptian queen with gorgeous sideboob who literally taunts me about my size (denouncement reason: "You are weak") as she prepares to divide up my lands
>>Wicked French-Italian queen who seems to want to convert my civilization to devout Catholic slaves every time she's in my game
>>Only slightly annoying English queen who looks like she's fitting me for a frilly white dress
>>Scythian horse chick who is a little too armored for my tastes but is definitely the aggressive type
...I now want to play a game with all of them being the only AIs

Why I cant get fun from Endless Legend anymore?

When I first played Endless Legend, like month after release, I loved it. I really enjoyed playing slowly on higher difficulties, something I was never doing in 4x before.

After first expansion came, I was rather angry that it was not free one, like with Endless Space, but I thought it was okay. I bought later on sale Guardians, when next one was already out. Later next two expansions as well.

But no matter what, everytime I played after getting first expansion, each game after next one bought, it was never fun anymore. I felt like I was forcing myself to play, for the most of time.

Why is that? Why the same game that gave me a lot of fun in basic part, feel so crappy after getting expansions. Also, expansions that dont feel needed at all, after I got them.

Why?

In the same time, I checked how I feel about Endless Space, by replaying it, and it felt great, just like last time.

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>keep losing to religious victory on Emperor

>>160008054
make lots of units
actively take down barbs
make lots of settlers

>>160028520
>>160032025
>>160032441
How long till they drop some femboy leader perfect for all these ladies to bully?

fix to district cost scaling where

>>160032097
in the game im in now i couldnt harvest sheep outside my border

although can sheep even be harvested? i dont actually know.

>Distant worlds becomes a lagfest as soon as I reach the midgame
Is there any sort of black magic to increase the performance?

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>find traces of an ancient civilization that uplifted species that all ended up destorying themselves
>finally find a clue for their homeworld
>some sort of AI with the memories of that ancient civilization gives me the speech from the great dictator and joins me as some shitty ship that can't join any other fleets
I don't know if I should be mad that they just copypasted that speech or glad that Paradox at least stole a good speech.
At least I got a free upgrade for my goverment.

>>160033854
Sheep are a bonus resource, not a luxury or strategic. They only increase tile output.

Why are America and Norway so bad

How do you design this game and somehow think they're even within striking distance of shit like Scythia and Germany

>>160034004
im talking about harvesting them as in removing the resource for a one time boost, like you can do with stone, wheat, crabs, etc

i assume thats what he was asking about the whales

>>160033854
It's weird, some things can't be harvested outside your borders, stone for example. You can't harvest luxuries I think.

>>160032441
Original poster of that here, I can't. I can only get through a game with a maximum of 2-3 of them playing against me. Any more than that and I get too turned on to make it through the Classical Era without basically letting one of them roll all over my cities with their army.

>>160033751
>YFW they add a fuckboi of a DLC leader who gets bonuses for having people like him
>Play game as him with all the female civ leaders
>Whole game is you desperately kissing ass and trying to please each of them
>And failing to get anything other than scorn and amusment at how pathetic you are because they still haven't fixed diplomacy

>>160033762
Go to your Sid Meier's Civilization VI\Base\Assets\Gameplay\Data folder, open Districts.xml and edit all instances of CostProgressionModel="whatever" to CostProgressionModel="NO_COST_PROGRESSION"

>>160034290
Pretty sure I've harvested stone, but you can only do it when it's in your culture boarders, you can cut trees/marsh on unclaimed land though

Is Civilization VI worth getting or should I stick with Civilization V?

>>160034176
i think norway is very interesting, you can be the fastest civ to establish on the 2nd continent and easily get 1 of every lux on the map that way without needing to trade with anyone.

american is pretty powerful in an rush with oligarchy, and rough riders are great units. they dont compete with other rushes but their bonuses are not limited to early game like many warmonger civs.

>>160034485
>And failing to get anything other than scorn and amusment at how pathetic you are

Cleopatra is the absolute best for this. In her animated agenda scene where she declares you to be too weak to bask in her presence, she pauses to look directly at you, and down, before continuing to mock you. I realize she's supposed to be looking you up and down, but it's pretty easy to interpret her as looking directly at your groin before continuing to mock you.

The only thing better is if she makes that declaration a few turns before storming your empire with her MASSIVE army.

...can we get a vassalization mod like we had for Civ V, where the AI can turn players into subservient vassals in a peace deal?

>>160034904
>american is pretty powerful in an rush
That's pretty dumb, since in WW2, America only became a threat once they shifted their production, and Japaneses knew that if they allowed them to start producing, they were fucked.

>>160034431
>Any more than that and I get too turned on to make it through the Classical Era without basically letting one of them roll all over my cities with their army.
Keep trying anon, you can probably make it through a full game sooner or later, them grinding you down and teaching you your place under their heel can't happen every game after all

And if nothing else it could be worse, there's no team setting in Civ so there will never be a game where it's you vs all of them working together as they openly plot how they're going to divvy up your cities and what they plan to do after they lead your disgraced ass through their streets in chains and not much else

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Does anyone know where in the game files I can mess with production speed and research speed? I'm tired of getting to the Information era halfway through the turn limit and it taking one era to build a district.

>>160034814
It's better than V, but it needs fixing right now.

>>160035242
>ywn play as big guy giga gilgamesh against all female AI and conquer their cities while making them your slaves.

>>160033480

Please respond, this really bugs me ;_;

Where
the

fuck

are

the

MODDING

TOOLS

What is the best way to scout in AoW 3? Do I just fan everything out as far as possible like in Civ or should I keep units grouped because all the goodie huts are locked behind bandit camps?

>>160028520
>they all look like drag queens

>>160036568

Normally, I always send out cavalery units from the starting squad alone into the world, plus few lowest level units around, in order to uncover as much terrain as possible. Scounts dont really need to travel in groups, however, the quicker you uncover terrain, the bigger the chances for grabbing unprotected gold/mana stashes or even better - free buildings or population for nearest city.

Losing cavalery to roaming neutrals is kinda annoying, but lowest level basic troops - not so much.

Not to mention that it is important to know beforehand about potential cities locations. Especially with expansions that add unique buildings based on map improvements within city range. Having bonus armor building AND damage AND pikemen bonus in single city is really good, not to mention other synergies.

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>>160036905
delet

>>160035242
l-lewd...!

>>160035046
>Cleopatra is the absolute best for this. In her animated agenda scene where she declares you to be too weak to bask in her presence, she pauses to look directly at you, and down, before continuing to mock you. I realize she's supposed to be looking you up and down, but it's pretty easy to interpret her as looking directly at your groin before continuing to mock you.
>The only thing better is if she makes that declaration a few turns before storming your empire with her MASSIVE army.
>YFW she glances down and suddenly her look of annoyance and anger turns to one of amusement as she realizes you're neither worth hating nor calling a man
>YFW she laughs at your protests otherwise and shows you just how HARD, and MASSIVE her military is as they ravage your cities before ordering you brought before her so she can do the same to you

>...can we get a vassalization mod like we had for Civ V, where the AI can turn players into subservient vassals in a peace deal?
I actually miss that feature, made it less of a hassle to when you need to beat a civ into complete submission
>After being soundly beaten into submission, brought to kneel at her feet, and pledge to serve her in every way, your new Empress is kind enough to permit you to keep one of your cities
>Your smallest and weakest one, it's the most like you after all
>And she's particularly fond of reminding you each time she visits, whether it be to collect a tax equal to what few measly bits of gold you've managed to scrounge together, "offer" you a trade deal where you export every single luxury your city has for the chance she might let you kiss her feet, or just because she was in a mood to see you grovel and debase yourself

>>160035398
I know there's a mod that alters research speed on civfanatics, it takes a SQL update and I'm not sure what the values it looks for off the top of my head, but try there

>>160037106
>>160036568

Of course, your main forces (heroes and such) should start clearing nearby area, one by one. Try to keep troops alive, if possible - veterans are really powerful.

>Broadway has a Sectoid poster on it
That's interesting

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>>160037259

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>accidentally grab 1 of the guaranteed colonizable planets of the AI
poor guy

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>>160035046
>>160037259
>>160037897
I want the femdom retards to leave and take their shit normie-tier fetishes with them

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I'm about to play my first Civ game ever and I have no idea what I'm doing. Any recommended settings for a total newbe?

>>160038990
what other fetishes are you going to enjoy in civ? it's pretty vanilla as a game. injecting sexuality into it beyond basic themes like dominance, religious conversion, and frilly dresses is pretty difficult.

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>>160039273
Play horsewaifu for easy mode.

>>160039273
>king
>epic
>continents
>huge
>advanced settings
>disable religious victory
king so ai at least tries a tiny bit
epic for me feels like the right setting, makes technological ages more meaningful
continental is pretty standard really, early-mid game is land based combat
mid-late game you have to start getting into naval warfare
religious victory is bullshit, fuck that
for civ pick whatever you like, you can win with everything

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>>160039530
You could just play a different game if all you want to do is jerk off

>>160039649
>>160039762

Thank you.

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>>160039825
Any game that can be played one handed is a jerk-off game. So I'm gonna jerk-off to Civilization. Stay mad, barbarian.

>>160039762

>"I'm about to play my first Civ game ever"
>Advise him to go with King difficulty
>Epic speed

Seriously?

If this is really his first game ever, have him go with Settler, so he can grasp basic controls and mechanics. Unless something changed in VI, this was the best introduction for newcomers.

Also, with epic speed, he will probably throw the game away. Normal is way to go, until you feel familiar with the game and want to have longer session.

>>160039825
that's not all i want to do. i enjoy playing civ. i play it normally to some extent. it's just that when one of the AI's is female and starts getting dominant with me, well, things happen.

so civ is the best of both worlds. i wasn't ACTUALLY complaining about getting repeatedly turned on while playing it. just wanted an excuse to post that aggressive gorgo image.

>>160034431
>>160037897
Just imagine playing a game with all of them and a vassiliziation mod like >>160035046 suggested anon
>Try your best to last as your tiny nation is surrounded on all sides by powerful empires, the leaders of each keenly aware of how weak and pathetic your nation is compared to their glorious rule and they love to remind you their amusement of that fact the only thing that lets you keep your sovereignty
>Sooner or later it happens, your paltry military gets annihilated in what probably isn't even worth being called a war, your cities looted, people enslaved, and you, you are dragged before your conqueror and forced to grovel and kiss her feet so she won't put an end to your pathetic life
>After what must be hours all but literally kissing her ass she permits you to live, but with a look of scornful amusement she tells you that she'll want far more than just begging from you if you want reign as her vassal
>In the end you leave her palace feeling humiliated and violated, you get to keep some of your nation, but all symbols of your regency are to be melted down or destroyed, replaced with something of her choice more fitting to your submission under her
>Time passes and the world moves on around you, now reduced to a king in name only, you and your "nation" reduced to toys dancing at your mistress's cruel whims
>At times you find yourself changing hand, whether by sword and conquest or simply sold like some cheap commodity you are passed around by every empire in the world, each empress entertaining themselves heaping some new indignity on you as they vie for the title of queen bitch of the world
>In the end one comes out on top, vassilizing all the others under her, treating each former monarch with the respect they deserve as her rule reaches out towards the stars
1/2

>>160041741

>Except for you of course, even the weakest of them is quick to remind you when you are on your knees before her how honored someone like you, a man if you can even be called that who isn't even worthy to lick the dirt off of their boots, should be to be kept around as the Empress’s and her most trusted adviser’s personal play thing

2/2
Just a tad bit too long
>>160028520
>>160032441
>>160034431
>>160035046
>>160037897
>>160039530
>>160040081
What do you think each would want to do to their vassel?

>>160038990
No

Whats /civ4xg/ opinion on Call to Power 2?

>>160040334
>playing on settler
on prince the ai doesnt exist, whats the point of telling him to play on anything under king
i want him to play an actual game with some sort of opposition, not for him to just build shit and steam roll an entire continent with 3 units
about gane speed you are right, might not be the best option if you dont know what you are going into

>>160042590
was the only Civ-like game i ever played until Civ V. it's still pretty good. amazing how little the mechanics have changed over the years.

also heavily moddable.

Post for Cleo

>>160037106
>>160037439
Is there an actual penalty for having lots of cities in AoW3? So far I haven't seen one, but I can't imagine there isn't one in a game with conquerable neutral cities all over the map.

>>160045310

Nah, you can go tall as much as you want, the only problem is that you "transform" population from one town to found another, which might be a problem for slow breeding races like elves.

>>160047029

I mean as wide.

>>160045310
A fully built city will take a lot of money, and you won't be able to produce units in all cities at once anyway.

>russia comments on my smaller army
>goes straight to war with me
>congo declares war on me too
>fuck them both up with 2 archers
>they both beg for peace with great treaty deals
>russia starts licking my toes giving my gifts and shit
>congo fucks off
nice.

What should I have for dinner, /civ4xg?

>>160049513
plain lettuce sandwich

>>160039825
i have that same laptop

How is galactic civilizations 3?
Or endless space?

I need a modern space turn based 4x.

>>160049513
Its starting to get chilly outside so I made a pot of chili and some cornbread.

>>160049513
I am fond of pork.

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why is Victoria so hot?
she doesnt fit into my preferences at all, but my dick explodes at her

>>160050813
Absolutely haram.

>>160051430
It's her voice and absolute smugness.

>>160051430
you want to fuck that chin

>>160051430
She's smug as fuck
And you've never given her a reason not to be

>>160049935
>>160050671
>>160050813
I ended up getting ramen

>replaying V because I can't stand 6's diplomacy
>try to stay real friendly with as many people as I can
>modern era hits
>denouncements out the ass
I guess there's no avoiding it

>>159995827

Mah n..'favorite civilization'

>when you should have razed that city

If I sell someone a city can I then declare a war of liberation and take it back without warmonging?

>>160056739
Pretty sure you can't, it'll just be a regular conquest

>>160004890

That you have much that he does not and that you want your people to be taken as slaves

is civ 6 a good game

whats good and bad about it

>>160057228
Civ6 is in a unique position of being a bad game that can be fixed and be made into a good game. Its not balanced well, its diplomacy is fleshed out from Civ5 but is rendered inconsequential due to poor AI. Its map generation is eclectic and is lacking in the numerous options of Civ5. The Civilopedia is poorly implemented and, like its Tech descriptions, seems more inclined to be witty than helpful.

Despite all this though, Civ6 shows promise. Fans of the series (myself included) can expect a couple expansions and a patch or two to fix most of these problems and the modding community will be sure to fix the rest. Civ6 leaves a lot to be desired but it also shows a lot of potential and has plenty of room to improve.

>>160036568
Keep your leader, heroes and combat units together and use them to clear sites.

Use summoned scout units such as Spy Drones, Zephyr Birds, Cherubs, Wisps, etc. to explore the map for you (if you can't summon them at the start, research them).

Roaming mobs are going to be a pain in the ass though since they'll attack your scouts and take undefended cities, though I usually just re-summon any scouts they take down.

>>160058098
Replace "Civ6" with "Civ BE".

>>160058496
Only problem is that Civ BE had shit expansions

Sometimes this games terminology could be a bit more clear...
If I activate Robert Goddards "+20% Production towards Space Race projects" is that a permanent boost or does it give me 20% of a project I'm building?

>>160058662
The text is literally blank for BE pre-expansion.

>>160058974
it increases your production by 20% while working on space race projects

In AoW 3 how do you cast spells like Heal Undead outside combat? It doesn't show up in any of the casting menus.

>>160060342
Spells tagged as "combat spells" can't be cast outside of combat.

>>160058098
>>160058496
>Civ BE
>can be fixed
>modding community will be sure to fix the rest

>>160060313
Nice. Thanks.

>>160034431
Play it with all of them on deity level
Then tell us how it made you feel

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Are you fucking kidding me right now? Stone of Scone?

>>160060342
What >>160060475 said. Though heal spells will automatically restore a certain amount of HP among valid units in a stack every turn.

>>160011791
What do people today have against fucking beards

>>160061901
?

>>160062516
On a personal level I find caring for them more effort than they're worth, though I also find body/facial hair quite ugly

Though in general it seems they've become associated with with certain groups so hate for said groups lead to hate for said traits

>>160062545
The name.

>>160062810
Maybe you should google what that is. You could learn something.

>>160062810
Thats a real religious artifact though

>>160063306
>>160063349
No duh, but the name is still goofy as fuck.

>>160063391
there's also a dwarven artifact called the scone of stone

>>160060475
>>160062482
Heal Undead specifically says it heals the whole stack when cast out of combat, but I have no idea how and have never seen it actually happen. Do I have to go a turn without fighting or something?

>>160064717
You don't cast it out of combat, it automatically heals up to 25 HP among all undead units in a stack when you proceed to the next turn.

>>160066215
I guess it's bugged in my version or something, my Cadavers are definitely not being healed each turn.

I'm running civ V with NQ mod and hellblazer's map pack, would you guys rec any other mods to complement these?

>>160068538
Cadavers are highly-expendable arrow-fodder that slowly "decay" or lose HP each turn. You need more healing units to counteract their decay.

Also, I think how the "heal-per-turn" mechanic works is basically one unit gets healed for as much HP as possible, then when that unit is at full health, the excess HP transfers over to the next unit.

>>160017150
>slow breeders
>repugnant
Got me, anon

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Hello gentlemen.
Two questions:

A) Have any Civ 6 patches been anounced yet? I pledged to myself to not buy the motherfucker until they showed it some love and support.

B) How is Stellaris right now? Worth playing or should I just bide my time and wait for more DLC?

>>160070993
>Have any Civ 6 patches been anounced yet?
My dad works at Firaxis and said they plan to release a patch for mere $19.99.

>>160070993
Firaxis doesn't really do "patch announcements" and that attitude goes back much farther than Civ V even.

If you're lucky you'll see one before the end of the year.

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Making the important decisions in Stellaris.

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>>160071546
How did you even make it to general?

>>160071706
Still slightly better than the Arrested Development trait. Slightly.

I am fond of dying threads.

>>160075649

I like to see my mom argue with the OP

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>animating dead on a gate slot to open the gate
This is both hilarious and cool as fuck.

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Does a city builder general exist?

>>160076347
Banished is great but it just doesn't have much content. There's a few mods to extend it though.

>>160076347
Used to exist a couple of months ago, dunno if they kept reviving it.

>>160077945
Nobody said it was, but the modding community was pretty sizeable for Civ5. One can only assume that the Workshop, when it comes out, will be flooded with fixes, rebalances, and other things to enhance the experience.

>>160077945
its not your job, because you'll do it for free.

>>160078186

So, when is Firaxis going to be arsed to release mod tools so that I can at least fix their game for myself ?

I want to retool the technology tree so a lot of unlocks happen sooner, also tweak most Civic cards. Rationalism, Free Market, Colonization, Agoge and Maneuver need nerfing back, if I had to pick 5

>>160062516
They itch like all fuck and take forever to clean up so you don't look like a goddamn hobo and some people can't pull it off to begin with
Being clean-shaven can make you look just as proper, classy, and yes manly as long as you dress and carry yourself correctly.

>>160076347
>Does a city builder general exist?
No /cbg/ is dead
You're welcome to discuss it here though
banished is incredibly comfy, I just wish there was a game that tied the hypercomfy of Banished into Civilization style games
I mean C2C's very early Prehistoric Era feels like it'd make much more sense as a nomadic '''city''' and it'd be cool to manage it as a Banished-style ''''town'''

>>159989282
Religious victory sucks a fat fucking dick. Might as well just play Conquest.

I don't enjoy the late game because of all the things that need to renew.

Just let me set cities to produce science/money like in Civ 5. Just let defensive spies last forever. Give me an option to have more than 30 turns on a trade route.

PLEASE

almost every aspect of civ6 feels like a downgrade compared to civ5
the city planning with districts is a little better but the fact that you can delete extremely limited and precious resources without even knowing it is fucking terrible

>>160082801
you do know those are counted toward your strategic resource counts, right

>>160071706
He's retardedly good at military theory

>>160082801
>you can delete extremely limited and precious resources without even knowing it is fucking terrible

what?

Stellaris:

Fanatic Individualist/Materialist/Direct Democracy?

or

Individualist/Materialist/Militarist/Plutocratic Oligarchy?

>>160083000
If you put a district down on top of woods, marsh, rainforest, or any bonus resource, you won't get the benefit of harvesting them.

>>159989719
>two decades ago

>>160083327
>Fanatic Individualist/Materialist/Direct Democracy?
this

>>160083595
Well that's why you have a builder and harvest that said resource beforehand. And you definitely know where you build a district, if you're not a blind guy playing trying to play at random?

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>unexplained reasons
lol is firaxis retarded. the reason studios went to los angeles is that they wanted to get as far away as possible from Edison and his patents on all the technology.
also why is this building so shit. the moment other AI advance to atomic era it just becomes a regular broadcast tower? thats fucking awful.

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How long until Firaxis makes the progressive change from BC/AD to BCE/CE?

>>160084785
I understand they were also fleeing copyright.

>>160084941
How long until they have Paradox-tier modding potential out of the box instead of waiting aeons for them to get around to releasing mod tools?

>>160084785
I fucking love the art direction in Civ 6
It's so comfy
Shame it's full of shit as far as substance is concerned

>>160085592
>I fucking love the art direction in Civ 6
I really, REALLY fucking want the return of clean, hard art direction instead of whatever the fuck this is supposed to be
I mean I was under the impression we were going for the Age of Exploration artstyle instead of Civ V's art deco but the buttons and the icons and all that look like, for lack of a better word, tablet versions.
I mean, I'm one of those people who liked Windows 2000's artstyle so what do I know

>>160086003
>but the buttons and the icons and all that look like, for lack of a better word, tablet versions
explain? I don't have a tablet or anything like that

>>160086064
>explain
I don't really know how to explain it. They feel cartoony and "buttony", even more than Civ V. The buttons and icons feel without substance and fluffy, the effects to make them look 3D (I suppose) are overdone, and generally are oversized, kind of like XP's Start Button but way bigger.

>>160086162
Odd
I feel the opposite, a lot of the buttons could stand to be bigger, I have trouble clicking on them when they're crowded by other icons

I'm looking at you, city ranged attack

>>160086251
Oh yeah, but I'm talking about many of the icons.
In general, the ones that don't need to be fucking massive are titanic (choose production and the menu buttons), and the ones that need to actually be bigger are fucking tiny (city ranged attack). Also, the icons themselves are horribly ugly and are somehow both simplified and unclean and unclear (SLIGHTLY BIGGER CORN).

So, I'm playing civ6, and I wonder, how do I convert my other cities to my founded religion? Only one city has it, and it doesn't seem like the others are following. I bought an apostle, but I'm not sure if he's doing anything either.

>>160086685
Move apostle or a missionary next to your city and press the "spread religion" button.

>>160086685
missionaries and apostles have to move next to the city you want to convert and use their spread religion ability

you'll have to do it a couple times before it takes usually

>>160086746
>>160086767
And after you've done that, they disappear like a builder?

>>160086943
Yeah.

>>160086943
Yes
You can see the spread religion uses remaining on the unit panel
If it's an apostle, you might want to keep it around after 1 spread so it can fight