AGDG - Amateur Game Development General

>>159957230
>> Engines
>GameMaker: yoyogames.com/gamemaker
>Godot: godotengine.org
>Haxe: haxeflixel.com
>LÖVE: love2d.org
>UE4: unrealengine.com
>Unity: unity3d.com
Delete this

>>159957230
>using that fucking image again
Kill yourself, faggot.

>>159957378
Cry more reddit

I'm curious as to thoughts about coding an engine from scratch and working from a prebuilt engine. I've never been in this general before, but I assume this debate has already been had fifty times. What are pros and cons of doing either of those things?

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>instead of using literal dinosaurs, you make a game about old people

>>159957424
kill yourself

>>159957301
>>159957349
>>159957378
>>159957424
Off to a great start you fucking idiots.

>>159957457
pros, you get your engine
cons, you never finish it because it will take 8 years to make

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So I'm moving vertices in my shader to simulate wind for trees and foliage. Right now I'm moving them along a sin wave which doesn't look very natural. Does anyone else have any other suggestions for more realistic wind movement?

>>159957457
Depends if you want to make 2D or 3D games

>>159957494
>Let's start a thread with a jam that nobody seriously takes part in and an image that displays mental illness instead of a highlight from a previous thread or progress from a fellow yesdev
You brought this on yourself.

Itch.io stats, lets see 'em.

>>159957663
Could you elaborate a little? I assume that 3D game development favors prebuilt engines.

>>159957457
>coding an engine from scratch
Have fun not having a game. Use a premade one if you actually want to have a chance to make it to the 1% that actually finishes a game.

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>>159957681
>a jam that nobody seriously takes part in
Speak for yourself faggot.
> an image that displays mental illness
Back to >>>/r/eddit
>a highlight from a previous thread or progress from a fellow yesdev
Please we almost never do this.

>>159957457
The cons of making your own engine are pretty obvious. Takes more time, requires more knowledge. A lot more time and knowledge if you're going 3D.

There are a lot of pros of doing it yourself, though, and you have to weigh these against the cons depending on what you think is important for your game.
- no fees or royalties
- no licensing agreements
- more flexibility and control
- more efficiency, because if your game doesn't need it, you just don't do it
- ability to fix bugs

It's still a middle ground, though. There are plenty of libraries you can use if you don't particularly care to implement your own subsystems, e.g. rendering, audio, collision detection and physics, etc.

>>159957932
>says the guy replying with a stupid anime girl reaction image
Just shut up. Seriously. You're embarrassing yourself.

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>>159956662
>>159956946
Context matters breh.
inb4 people berate my 4 minute mouse photoshop mixel drawing

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>>159957506
Compound sine waves.
Basically several sine waves, all different periods and magnitudes, added together. This creates a wave that feels random but isn't, so it loops perfectly.

>>159957932
>smug anime reaction image
>>>/a/
>>>/out/

>Please we almost never do this.
>I don't see the correlation between the OP containing progress and the thread starting about progress
Ever considered doing it, meatball? Of course not, dumbshit poster that you are.

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>>159957506
First of all, you need to model how extremities will move more than inner points, and how different parts of the plant have different stiffnesses. This will still be pretty approximate as you will only be able to get what you see on the left, not the right, but that's probably okay.

Second, you want a better model of wind intensity like >>159958258 says.

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Repostan progress, what other weird weapons should be in a game

>>159957457
Making your own engine takes so much time that you're probably not going to actually make a game with it. Using a premade engine will always come with limitations, but usually if you're posting here you game isn't going to run into them (unless you're doing something stupid like making a 3d game in GMS) and the major engines come with a shitload of support

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>>159958332
There is no correlation. Or what, you think that people won't shitpost if they see a progress pic in the OP?

>>159957963
So if I have a real interest in the mathematics and intricacies of audio and physics, it's not necessarily a horrible idea?

>>159958502
Disintegrating Pistol
>(use): destroy Disintegrating Pistol

>>159958502
its not that weird desu. also already suggested faux camera obscura. i mean, you can always at least blind things with the flash.

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>>159957782

>>159957782
popularity never ever

>>159958258
>>159958421
Alright thanks. I'll try stacking sin waves for more randomness.

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Dino Memory game dev here, what kind of dinos should I have in my game?

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>>159958621
>(use): destroy Disintegrating Pistol
so like flare gun?
>>159958642
Camera is already there and it blinds enemies

>>159958857
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3X2ALG9iGPg

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>>159957782
whoops forgot the cap.

>>159958617
If you're interested in the programming involved in simulating them in an appropriate and efficient manner, sure.

Also, don't think of making the engine and making the game as two different things. Rather, you are making a game starting at a lower level. If you go into it with a goal of making an engine and not just a game, you will unnecessarily generalize and lose benefits of making your own engine in the first place.

If you can reuse some of the code for another game, good. Just don't strive for that.

>>159958798
easy to draw/model ones

>>159958857
what about glorious nipponese swords?

>>159959075
Forgot to quote>>159957782

>>159958952

> earnings $7

Do you have an optional pay ability?

>>159958502
Taser
Ice pick
Crow bar
Potato or Tomato cannon
Fire extinguisher
Heart Shock pads (?)
Toy water gun filled sewage

>>159959205
i think people can choose to pay on anything they download off of itchio.

>>159959075
>>159958952
>>159958656
now do the last 30 days

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Well I'm finally making my first game.

heavily inspired by the warhammer fantasy tabletop game. I never got to play it much due to rural/money issues so I'm finally going to just make my own version of it

this is the prototype, an orc party vs human crossbowmen doing movements, running, shooting, charging (getting reflex shot at when charging) and finally normally attacking

still so far to go though, next is adding visual dice rolls instead of just putting them all in console

I want to try my hand at a sort of JRPG (just a prototype though) but I was wondering, should the combat scene be a separate scene in Unity, or should it be a separate piece of land in the same scene, and I just teleport the player there when the battle starts?

>>159959302
neat, thanks.

>>159959407
Neato. What tools are you using? And have you thought about adding a zoom function for people that can barely make out 16x16 sprites?

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>>159957782

>>159959302
You can disable optional payments

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>>159957782
Game has been up for 4 days

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>>159959562
it's just unity and sorry, you can zoom in and out just didn't think of it during the battle record.

still looks like shit though, using a free tileset

>>159959813
how do you feel about the initial traction?

>>159958941

God these guys were the masters of visual gags

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So I've spent some time trying to make some foliage, and I've ended up with this, it's more vector art inspired then low poly but I think it fits better.

Obviously the colours need to change some, and I needed to disable the ssao so the trees look a little flat atm. it not really exiting progress, but I've spend most of my dev time over the last couple of days working on the design document trying to get a better sense of direction before I spend a lot of time refining on implementing a new features.

>>159960057
that is one sexy comfy game

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>>159959070
How could I forget?

>>159960057
So what direction are you going with this?
Please don't listen to the edgy gridmark etc suggestions from some threads ago
The world needs more comfy games

>>159960016
Expected more to be honest, but the game is a buggy prototype mess with almost no gameplay

>>159960319
what game

>>159960345
https://panstas.itch.io/world-of-horror

GIVE ME A CUTE GIRL SO I CAN DEV

>>159957782
316 | 134

>>159960504
Calm down, pedodev.

>>159960415
the background image on your page is really hard on the eyes, friend.

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>>159960504
cute gril piloting mecha

>>159960057
Needs AA.

Also flat shading is not memepoly. Nodevs like to confuse the two.

>Had a phone big enough for google cardboard
>dropped it and shattered the screen a week before lenses came in
>Didn't have big enough phone for google cardboard
>Getting mom's old phone today, excited to finally try vr
>phone has fucked up gyroscope and google cardboard app is not compatible with the system


VR is like, my dream. From the moment I saw Matrix as a fucking kid. I am slowly accepting the fact that I'll never get to taste it.

>>159960596
>pedo
Cute doesn't mean kid. Stop projecting please.

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>>159960504

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>>159961982
Very cute but I was thinking of a cute girl that I could use for a game.

>>159961816
but girl does, had he said:"give me a cute WOMAN" he wouldn't come off as creepy. Doesn't help we have loli games and shit here.

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>>159962703
Look her up.

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dont bully bokudev edition

Anyone know any good tutorials on indie game trailers? I've been working on mine for a few days now but it still looks shitty made. I'm using Vegas

>>159961578
its not that great compared to the vive, but still pretty cool
Daydream is much better because of the controller possibilities.

also you really need 1440p, 1080p isn't quite good enough
samsung galaxy 8 series will have a 4k screen for the larger ones, get hype

I use to try it with my galaxy s3 720p pentile screen + constantly drifting gyroscope before I got a note 7, it was awful

>>159962805
Fuck off with that no bully shit. It's why you are such a faggot in the first place.

>>159962997
Im not even him and I made this picture you faggot.

>>159959025
Late reply, thanks much.

To what extent is it my responsibility to stop people getting themselves permanently trapped in a place they weren't supposed to go

>>159963090
If they go out of their way to get out of bounds, put a secret there.

>>159963090
Depends how much the player has to exploit to get there.

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>>159957782
on mobile

>>159962914
Best bet is to get someone else to do it. You can probably find someone who will do it for free but even spending a little money for your main piece of advertising isn't a bad idea. Good editing is a skill that requires a lot of experience.

>>159963380
thats pretty decent for being out for a day

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>>159960214
While I really love the time mechanic in MM and I've wanted to play/create a game with the same idea for ages I don't think this is the project to try it out.

This project will always be about getting comfy, and as for the direction I'm going in I've set the mc as a travelling alchemist that's exploring the world looking for common(to specific areas) and rare items/ingredients he can use to make positions and stones.

I have a long list of possible research and brewing mechanics, and concepts for trading, items, regions, ailments, travelling options, etc.. you know the usual suspects, but I don't want to get in to details so early on.


>>159960732
Yeah, the only reason I've disabled the ao is because the ssao wasn't playing nice with the fog and I haven't decided whether or not to use ssao or ao textures yet, and I think I'm goona let the performance gods decide that for me a little further down the line.


btw does anyone here have any advice on how I could go about adding some sexy physics to the bridge in the pic in unity?

Can someone take a look at this code? It's giving me some trouble: http://hastebin.com/jadifikexa.cpp
Basically, I have a multidimensional vector, full of 1s and 0s. A 1 means a block goes at that space, and a 0 means it's empty. I wanted to make fewer collision checks, so I wrote this code. It's supposed to recursively go through the vector, and if it finds multiple 1s next to each other, increase the width or height (then change those spaces to 0) so there's only one large block, instead of many small ones.
It works, except sometimes, the blocks will be too tall or too wide. Anyone know what I'm doing wrong?

>>159961982
Fake cuteness

>>159963610
AA not AO

>>159963497
agreed. i didnt think anyone would want to play it so it was nice pleasant surprise to see.

>>159963610
Sounds cool. Remember to have interesting characters and/or animals.
For the bridge, look at hinge components, I'm sure that's what you need.

>>159963973
have you gotten any comments or feedback yet?

>>159963653
>getLength

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>>159963795
i'd say REAL cuteness

>>159963090
Entirely yours. If it's possible for a player to get stuck in a one-way spot, then give them an option to escape (like how Zelda puts you in the entrance of a dungeon if you quit halfway through, or the undroppable Dark Sigil in Dark Souls that lets you warp back to the last bonfire at a cost, or even in WoW where you can trigger the death state at any time if you get stuck)

>>159964090
Oh yeah, I changed the name of the function but I forgot to change it right there. That's not the issue, though.

>>159963380
>>159963497
>>159963973
its weird though because the date is bugged. it shows my last update as the creation date but i actually uploaded it wednsday.

>>159964050
yeah, i got some feedback from vampiredev which was nice to see and an anon speedran my game in the thread and gave some feedback. nobody else commented though but i appreciate what i got.

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>>159958502
Thin black cotton gloves with small rubber dots on them, for grip.
(couldn't find exactly the ones im looking for, but
thinner than in pic related,
no red color like in pic related,
no rib like in pic related)
Effect: ???

>>159964151
>"You just sexualized me didn't you?"

>>159959845

I'm excited and can't wait to see your progress

>>159963653
>>159964294
You don't seem to bail out at all? What's the point of passing the current length or height to the next iteration of the function if you don't use it?

Does any one have that fleasable oop code joke diagram pic? Need it much

Fine then. I'm going to make a full game with kenney's assets out of spite.

>>159965126
I create a width and height variable in another function, then pass them into the getWidth and getHeight function. When the function is done, the variables will be whatever they need to be.
I'm kinda thinking the error is something else, entirely. The problem only occurs when I call those functions, but I can't find anything wrong with them.

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>>159957782
>tfw 90% of this is from people searching vaporwave

>>159965187
I'm going to make one too, out of 3D moel

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>starting AI programming
>no idea where to begin

Any help?

>>159965769
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nEnNtiumgII

>>159965769
if(InLineOfSight(ai, player))
ai.moveTowards(player)

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>>159964535

>>159965769
this came up on twitter, idk if it's good
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iVBCBcEANBc

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>>159964535

>>159965769
Make a IA tree saying everything the fucker will do

>>159966757
The rest of his tutorials are pretty good, but this one doesn't really look like water at all

>>159963610
Hot damn, that's huge.
How many tris?

what could be a good replacement for the idea of potions in an rpg thats you 'eat' rather than 'drink'

>>159967485
mushrooms
herbs

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>>159964535

>>159967485
Roasted chicken embedded in stone walls.

>>159967485
potion jello

>>159967485
Just normal meals. Certain foods heal, others boost stats, etc, etc.

>>159967000
300k - 1m

>>159967485
Potion fruit.
Potion pudding.
Magical animal meat?

>>159958245
I legit likes how it looks. Reminds me of the blue mushroom areas in Terraria

>>159967967
Oh dam. Not a toaster game, then.

>>159967485
gummy potion tablets

>>159968059
well only about 50% of the models have lods done, and you could always turn down the render dist etc

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So I am trying to make a 2x2x2 cube where the bottom is brown and the top is grey. The problem is that from some angles it looks like it should but for others it doesn not. I create the mesh at runtime and i am using unity3d. Does anyone know what error would cause the mesh to look like this?

>>159968320
Normals might be fucked

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Too cramped?

>>159968320
Looks like a backface culling/depth testing issue.

>>159968457
On one of the sides?

>>159968631
But its odd that it looks right from certain angles then. None of the triangles share vertices if that matters.

>>159968059
Well a million tris for a whole scene is not unusual these days.

>>159962937

>Hype
>Implying I'll ever be able to afford it.

>>159968957
Well, it's a backface culling issue in the sense that if you had backfaces culled and all pointing the right way, it would look fine.

The fact that it looks right from some angles but not others is what tells me it's a depth testing issue.

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Eh, I'm close to giving up on rigify.

The IK bones makes it much easier to make "soft" and more natural poses, but I feel like I have to wrestle every limb into position, and sometimes I get very crumpled and weird deformations.

>>159968853
On any of the tris' sides. Try drawing the normal for each tri to see if it's pointing in the wrong direction

>>159969197
>blogposting

>>159969197

I find it easier and more calming to manually make my own armature just because it also gives me more freedom. But if you already have one human skeleton system you could use it for the rest of them couldn't you?

>>159969846
>thread barely has any dev related posts
>condemn post complaining about dev tool
Maybe you should take a break.

>>159969969
>human skeleton system
I just used plain bones previously. No real "system", no IK bones, etc.
I prefer it because it's simple and intuitive, and you have full control over absolutely everything, but IK bones does make some motions look more natural, and it should (supposedly) save time because you don't have to move every bone for every limb.

Maybe I just have to get used to it.

How do you set up your armature?

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>>159969205
Tried drawing the normal of each vertecs. Its shown in red in the pic.

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>>159970540
You want the normal of the tris, not the verts. If the tri's normal is facing the wrong way, you'll see through it and it may cause visual issues like what you're experiencing

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working on replacing sprites

its really difficult to get used to new art that isn't placeholders because i got used to them.
but i gotta take the training wheels off sooner or later.
at least the tiles look pretty okay.

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I made a quick framework for something like a cellular automata, except the moves are processed sequentially instead of simultaneously.

I;m feeling uninspired as far a what rules to add, though. What's an interesting behavior to try to replicate?

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Smooth transitions between map and planet view. Good?

>>159971237

Looks pretty good. Just need at add a WOOSH to it.

>>159970540
>>159970857
>>159971064
>>159971095
>>159971237
>all this progress
WHAT THE FUCK IS GOING ON

>>159971237
The sky changing is pretty drastic, but otherwise it looks good

>>159971064
>at least the tiles look pretty okay.
I dunno man, so much 255,0,0 is giving me a bit of a headache.

>>159971237
>moon as big as the planet in mapview
>invisible in planet view

>>159971095
You made something that flows down. Now make something that moves upwards. Smokesignals.

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>>159971475
>I dunno man, so much 255,0,0 is giving me a bit of a headache.
Really? it's the exact same palette that I had before and nobody had an issue then (or maybe nobody said anything).
plus it's dark red. the only pure red is the highlights i think.

i can still change it though

>>159964535
accuracy++?
For melee weapons/cards. Because less likely for it to slip from your hand when you swing?

>>159963610
wow looks huge , what are you going to do about the jagged cliffs looks like the terrain engine alone can't handle it

>>159971783

Not him but it could be from those background rock walls, they're a little rough on the eyes. I think the rest of the tiles are fine

>>159971783
To be fair, the first picture has like preceived 50% highlights in the red rock texture. Second picture uses mostly the dark red.
It's also kinda weird how it's worse on my older second monitor, which usually outputs colors darker than my main monitor.

Could just be me.

How do I set watches in the GM debugger? I type in variable names and it pops up with "unable to evaluate"

>>159972182
>>159972194
Alright, thanks for the feedback. I'll tweak the palette a bit later. I still want to keep the background dark though so it's always clear where you can walk.

>>159971398
Like dusty trails you see in other space games when the ship is moving, or like, motion blur?

>>159971423
Too fast or too much of a change? I want the map view to be more black-with-stars and the closer view more nebula-like but I don't have one yet.

>>159971475
Those icons aren't final but I doubt I'll change the size of the icon based on the size of the body, but I guess I could try.

>>159972350

Keep up the good work man. Your game is one of the few I'm really excited to see more progress on.

I hope you plan on getting a satisfying whip sound.

>>159972350
>I still want to keep the background dark though so it's always clear where you can walk.
It's a good distinction between back- and foreground tiles, but imho the strongest colors should be limited to interactive objects on the screen, like the player or enemy sprites. It's not of much use to have a muted background layer only to have the player unable to locate himself between foreground elements.

>>159972397
>I'll change the size of the icon based on the size of the body
While that's a good idea, I was more aiming at the fact that there wasn't a moon visible in the planetview. From that video alone it doesn't look like you have more than one moon per planet, so seeing the moon in the background in the planet view would be some nice flavoring.

>>159972438
Thank you so much anon! That means a lot.

I'll find a way to make it sound satisfying, don't worry/

>>159972636
I hope you leave a Speed-Simon in there as an easter-egg.

>>159972635
>It's not of much use to have a muted background layer only to have the player unable to locate himself between foreground elements.
I'll write a sticky note to make sure I don't forget that. Thanks anon!

How the fuck would I go about writing pathfinding in a 2D platformer?

>>159973020
google other people's solutions and study them

there are plenty of well documented methods

>>159973020
Google it

>>159973020
The pathfinding algorithm itself is the same as it works on an arbitrary graph. The tricky part is designing the graph to account for verticality in a satisfactory way.

>>159962742
he had the right idea because nobody uses those two words together and women can be sexy at best

>creepy
hi leddit/tumblr

>>159972732
Sticky noted

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>>159972067
not sure, might try to cover it up with foliage or dof.
but I might be able to fix it by just being smarter with how I make the terrain meshes in the first place.

>>159972209
Anyone? It would make life a lot easier

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>>159957782

>>159974810
I haven't needed the debugger in quite some time and I wasn't terribly proficient to begin with. Is a "watch" another name for a breakpoint? If so, just doubleclick the line of code you want to be a breakpoint. If not, ignore me 'cause I dunno what the fuck I'm talking about.

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>>159965769
just remember that """"AI"""" means the decision making logic and nothing else.

Is 25 too old to learn video game development?

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Randomly moving bandits.

Randits.

>>159975897
pffft no

>>159975982
Where do I start?

>>159976029
At the beginning.

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>>159957782

>>159976063
Help an old guy out will ya

>>159976120
What is your goal?
What's the game you want to build and for what purpose?
How versed are you in general programming?

Anyone know about weird shit that can happen with string_width in gml? I need to draw something based on the width of a string but the value it returns is wrong for the first few seconds of gameplay and I'm not sure why.

My code is literally like:
var string="text"+string(number);

and then I call string_width on it in the next line on a for loop, but when the game starts the value it returns is wrong for like 3 seconds and then it corrects itself. I don't have any other variables with the same name or anything out of place, as far as I know

>>159969197
Well, initially rigify IS meant to be used with high models, and animating such models takes time.

You can probably get away with a simplified rig but only if you're comfortable making one yourself. But even with that, looking at her pose you'd at least need some IK controls on top of a simple rig to do that.

What you can try with rigidify is to use only the key control bones, not everything. Keys are usually the feet/hips/head and 4 target bones (ankles/elbows).

>>159976418 here
neverfucking mind, its because I set the font after getting the width, not before it, lol

>>159976208
I want to make arcadey games, small little games that I suppose I can complete in a span of a month at best. Just for fun.

I know some programming, I used to play around with Python scripting and stuff like that. But never delved into deeper things like OOP, although I understand it in theory.

>>159976538
>I want to make arcadey games, small little games that I suppose I can complete in a span of a month at best. Just for fun.
Then start writing down your idea and get on with it.

>But never delved into deeper things like OOP, although I understand it in theory.
You don't "necessarily" need OOP to make a game, but if you want to learn about it learn it properly outside of gamedev first.

>>159975897
i learned C at 23
never too late if you have passion

>>159976538
start with game maker and also learn about different oop and other patterns u can implement.

when u make small games dont just chuck them in the trash after ur done, go back and look @ ur code and see if theres stuff u could have abstracted to be easier to use, and if there was stuff that u realize a more efficient implementation for

>>159974985
Noah, watch is one of the windows in the debugger, I know all about breakpoints

>>159976538
>I used to play around with Python scripting
If you liked Python's syntax and formatting, I recommend you download Godot. Its own scripting language is close to Python in style. The performance hit you take over choosing a language like c++ is negligible with goals such as yours. Godot is a What-You-See-Is-What-You-Get editor, which makes it especially beginner friendly. And most importantly Godot is free. As a beginner I'd recommend you start with simple 2D tutorials and the classics: Recreation of Pong, Pacman, Breakout etc. to get a feel for the engine.
The alternative to Godot is GameMaker, which is aimed at amateurs. Has Drag&Drop, which is ... below mediocre.

If you want to go 3D, look at Unity or Unreal, but those are overkill for a bloody newb.

>>159976817
>Noah
???

>>159975982
is 38?

>>159976931
I hope not

>>159976931
I'm not 38 or older but I sincerely doubt it's too late, unless being that old has crushed your creative spirit (which it shouldn't have).

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I'm probably just doing something intensely stupid here, but please help.

I'm trying to apply cloth physics to an object.
The cloth modifier is there, but when I go to the physics tab to change settings for it, my physics tab has suddenly changed into something I cannot recognize.
Also, there's no cloth physics options to be found.

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>>159976931
Is 19?

>>159972397
>Too fast or too much of a change?
A little of both

>>159976906
Shit, meant no. Mobile posting is suffering

>>159976931
If you haven't used basic algebra since high-school or hated it for your whole life, you'll have a rockier start than most. Trigonomy is also super important in gamedev.

If you haven't completely fried your brains with drugs or knuckle-breakfast, you'll manage.

>his game has a health bar

>>159976729
>>159976730
>>159976787
>>159976891
Thanks fellas, I'll look more into this stuff and do my best.

>>159977238
>his game doesn't use physical damage of parts on the player created vessel

>>159977238
>he has a game

>>159975853
>string based comparisons

fucking kill yourself my man

>>159977285
dont give a shit about learning math btw. when ppl say you'll need math they mean it in the practcial sense, it you need to do something so you look up how it works and then you understand/implement it. i am fuckin horrible at math but understanding linear algebra/trig concepts is a lot easier when u actually have a pragmatic motivation for it.

this starter tutorial is rly easy 2 understand http://blog.wolfire.com/2009/07/linear-algebra-for-game-developers-part-1/

id also check out shawn spauldings' and heartbeasts' game maker tutorials

>>159977238
my game has both a health bar, floating damage numbers, and different animations and textures for various damage states.

but all enemies one hit kill the player

>>159977763
ok?

rotatedev

>>159977763
>floating damage numbers
delete

>>159978120
Fuck off.

>>159977512
>>159977285
>dont give a shit about learning math btw. when ppl say you'll need math they mean it in the practcial sense, it you need to do something so you look up how it works and then you understand/implement it. i am fuckin horrible at math but understanding linear algebra/trig concepts is a lot easier when u actually have a pragmatic motivation for it.
To further this point, a lot of the mathemagic is done for you, and what isn't is still pretty low level. Solving differential equations and proving theorems this is not. Occasionally engines will throw out magic like Unity using Quaternions (fancy way of representing rotations), but also provides a gorillion tools to handle them in ways that make physical intuitive sense.

As a general note about design and programming, there's a fine line of "enough generalization." Its often tempting, at least for me, to design systems so general that it takes ages to account for any feature I may or may not ever use. When developing a system (be it player control, camera control, inventories, etc.), start with being exactly as specific as you need it be. If you don't need your player to jump, don't bother making jumping code, even if you might want to reuse it later for a jumping game. Then go back and generalize once you understand what you've made.

>>159972397
>Like dusty trails you see in other space games when the ship is moving, or like, motion blur?

I actually meant sound effect. Not sure if you were planning that or not but most games use a little WOOSH noise in there.

>Tfw assigned as the """""lead""""" game designer and idea guy.

>>159977187
>phoneposters objectively bringing down the quality of the board
NORMIES OUT

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Working on some chain physics for lamps and other objects hung by links. Like weak skeletons or children.

>want to make a comfy ocean/sailing adventure game leaning heavily ont he sailing segments of windwaker
>can't into art for shit

>>159979417
Doomed?

>tfw I want to be cross platform in principle but supporting Linux is a nightmare and you need to own a Mac to do OSX stuff

>>159980895
>other objects hung by links
>like children
Going for the Hatred marketing scheme, aren't you?

>>159981214
no

>>159979417
Update: The artist/musician is a better idea and game designer than me.

>>159981346
Same

>>159971064
I don't think the issue is the color, but how busy the texture is, rocks are too small compared to the bigger ones on the bigger ones on the placeholder.

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>>159975938
Is this some sort of advanced pottery i dont understand?

>>159980895
I feel like it's a little too rigid, like when you whack it with that cube it moves away quite quickly but by the second swing its basically lost all momentum.

Otherwise looks great anon.

>>159981164
Use Godot
Export to every platform with one button for free.

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>>159981747
Thanks, anon. Here's a go with less damping. Better?
>>159981214
Like slaves/prisoners shackled to walls or something. The concept would work with ropes with pottery and glass hanging from shit as well though.

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>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xCk0T-0Z3cU

>how can indieplebs even compete?

>>159981780
>free
Everything comes at a price.
Using godot means you're forced to use a shitty buggy engine with a python style language.

>>159982376
>small teams of <10 people with barely enough money to survive the winter can not compete with multi-billion company's main franchise
How exactly is this noteworthy?

>>159982504
You can use c++ though. And there's always the option to write your own engine. In a couple of years we may be seeing your first game progress.

>>159982504
At least it's a complete engine, so you can actually make a game instead of spending years making an engine.
Also C# will be supported in the 3.0 release.

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>>159980895
>dinamic lights

is already better than modern games

>>159982578
>he doens't want to make stylised and colorful vidya

>>159982778
dynamic lighting is extremely expensive compared to static lighting. you should only do it if it's absolutely necessary for your game

I'm going to bed you guys. Good deving for those of you in a different time zone.

>>159982846
>he expects to beat the biggest franchise in the most oversaturated genre with his <500$ shitformer

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>>159982952
goonight sweet prince

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Reminder that all dinosaurs had feathers.
If your Dino Jam game doesn't have feathered dinosaurs I will PERSONALLY shake my head, but I will still play your game because I love you.

>>159983012
>focusing on the genre and not the art
you missed the point so painfully

>>159982952
>wasting time sleeping
This is why you are never going to finish your game.

>>159982778
Holy shit, the swinging light effect looks awesome with a stenciled point light. I might have to try one of those.

>>159981573
maybe, yeah. i was following this tutorial http://www.wildbunny.co.uk/blog/2012/03/01/designing-a-retro-pixel-art-tile-set/

>>159983090
>dinosaurs were feathered

prove it

>>159982869
With most modern games having some flavor of deferred lighting pipeline that's not as true as it used to be. You're right if they are dynamicly shadowcasting lights though.

>>159983241
Spot light, not point

>>159983375
he did.
did you not see that photo he posted?
fucking proof idiot

>>159983012
>most oversaturated genre
Almost no one makes 3D platformers anymore though.

>>159983120
>you can't make stylized and colorful art as an indie developer
Really?

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>>159983375
This: >>159983584
I took these photos of real living dinosaurs to prove they have feathers.

>>159982578
>teams

Oh, excuse me Mr. AAA.

>>159983120
>expects hobbyists and shitters to be comparable to a huge corps' art division consisting of people doing art for a living
Happy now, you spastic timewasting mongoloid?

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>>159981662
>Is this some sort of advanced pottery i dont understand?
In a sense, yes.

In another sense, it's just me having fun messing around with Ruby and Gosu.

>>159983813
>Implying a 1MA isn't a team of size 1

how did they never found fossils of dinossaur feathers?

>>159983925
whats MA?

>>159984026
1MA == one man army

>>159983625
not to a degree that satisfies myself, no.

>>159982296
Yeah anon that looks perfect now!

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>>159984012
There are quite a few fossils that show feathers on dinosaurs. The problem is it's extremely rare for feathers to be fossilized because they're so delicate. So most fossils don't show feathers.

>>159984493
Then you need to git gud because art style is strictly the work of one person.

>>159982869
>extremely
Maybe in the early 2000s, or if you want GI. For some point lights that don't even have shadows? Not at all, and it means you have a lot of flexibility without needing to do any baking.

>>159984768
>Then you need to git gud because art style is strictly the work of one person.
for 1ma's it's all the work of one person

>>159984720
on the flying dinossaur i can totaly see
there are none on Trex and shit like that.

its a chiken/crocodile type of thing

>>159985014
For teams it's ALSO the work of one person, that's why the end result for anything that isn't a smartphone game looks consistent instead of a gigantic mishmash of styles.

>>159985375
>For teams it's ALSO the work of one person,
no it's not, they have many people toil away on assets
they also have an art director who makes sure they are all consistent enoug not to clash, maybe you meant them?

>>159982376
like this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tOSFiKEUdV4

>>159985468
>maybe you meant them
Obviously. I thought we were talking about art style all this time?

>>159985309
A chicken is more closely related to a Trex than it is to a Crocodile.

The Trex is a Theropoda, which is a group of dinosaurs that had feathers, and is the group that directly evolved into modern birds. So it's very likely that the Trex has some form of feathers. There are other dinosaurs that aren't closely related to that group, so they may not have had feathers.

you guys got any gamedev related youtubers?

no extra credits, i hate them

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Fuck, I want to love rigify, but it's such a struggle to work with.
Considering deleting the rig and going back to simple bone animation.

>>159985882
a bit rigid but looks pretty good anon, don't give up!

>>159985932
Thanks, I'll keep trying.

>>159985740
we are...but the assetts woudl still have to be created by the same person who decides upon art style in 1ma ventures

>>159985843
yeah but chickens only develop feathers later in their development cicle after they lose their teeth

is the same with Trex'es

they have teeth and no feathers,because they are a early evolution cicle

>>159985882
I'm doing the same, rigify is complicated as fuck and it imports to unity really messy even after you delete the widget bones

>>159985882
still looks better than mine anon
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_z-cXdFMByM

>>159985868
Handmade Hero is interesting. A project to develop a game completely from scratch in C, streamed daily.

>>159985868
game maker's toolkit

>>159986084
>and it imports to unity really messy even after you delete the widget bones
Oh fuck, really?
Definitely abandoning it, then.
Thanks for the heads-up

>>159986132
Haha, oh god, I love it

>>159986234
that guy's a dumbass for giving his show that title.

>>159986330
he makes a good show, thats all that matters

>>159986015
The Trex was one of the last dinosaurs. It's very likely that it had feathers unless for some reason is just suddenly lost the feathers that it evolved from, which doesn't happen. So it had feathers.

>>159986161
Handmade Hero and its creator trigger AGDG, along with enginedev and anti-OOP sentiment in general. Be careful!

>>159985981
The concern about stylized and colorful art has nothing to do with assets.
And why aren't you already making your own assets then? It's not hard.

>>159986416
why does chickens lose their teeth?

trex lose the feathers in the egg

>>159984012
>>159986015
>>159986515

Stop shitposting and educate yourself, you dumb fuck.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uM5JN__15-g

>>159986940
>t-rex had feathers
stupid theory

>>159987124
>humans don't have body hair
>I mean look at them! They're hairless!

Attempt to extricate your head from your ass, please.

>>159987124

Did you watch the video?

>want to make super fun gameplay with lots of interesting mechanics
>write camera code for over a week

fug

>>159987124
Why does this trigger so many people?

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Doors!

anybody here have experience making a vehicle based game? im in over my head and dont know where to begin.

>>159987616
>lots of
>fun
stop that
polish a couple mechanics instead

>>159987723
what kind of vehicle game?

>>159983903
The amount of no-juice in this is kinda juicy

>>159987827
a multiplayer co-op FPS inside of a tank where you have to work together to destroy enemy tanks.

>>159988696
sounds fun my dude but good fucking luck

did you dummies really decide on dinosaur jam? Or is it another forced jam like boat/mecha and lewd?

>>159989063
I recall one (1) poll about it

>>159988696
got you covered on your first reference m8.
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt2713180/

I'm sure the answer to this is obvious but I gotta ask anyway; Disregarding the processes of drawing/modeling, is it easier or harder to develop games with 3D graphics or 2D graphics?

Again, disregarding the process of making the actual assets, and just strictly speaking of the development side.

>>159989173
you posted the wrong link there buckaroo, let me help you
https://myanimelist.net/anime/14131/Girls_und_Panzer

>>159989332
2d, less dimensions to deal with, easier to build levels and manage the states/positions of things, easier to design.

>>159989334
Thanks for the correction m8, how silly of me.

>>159989063
>mecha
i would take this over dinosaurs desu

>>159989063
Lewd jam was a forced jam, not boat/mecha.

>>159982296
Is that in Godot?

>>159957230
>AGDG pedo OP tradition still going strong

>>159989662
>one guy from /m/ never shutting up
>some bong who just wanted to talk about boats
>lets combine them!
>6 (Six) games submitted

>>159989063
we had a poll up for like a week, the kind where anyone could add suggestions

http://poal.me/33ujzy

>>159987702
Nice! Love seeing that progress

>>159989759
c++/opengl

>>159989771
Waifu Jam 2015, November Jam 2015, Zelda Jam, and Waifu Jam 2016
All of these jams also had less than 10 entries.
Does that make them all bad forced jams?
No it doesn't. All of these jams were fine, they just happened at a bad time, when many people were burnt out from another jam or a demo day.

Also people were wanting boat and mecha to be separate, but whoever made it decided to combine the themes without asking the thread about it.

>>159990240
>but whoever made it decided to combine the themes without asking the thread about it.

i.e forced

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>>159990102
I've been sick for like 2 weeks and lacked motivation
but it's time2getbacktowork

>>159968320
It does sound like the normals are fucked. Try flying into the box and looking out. If its a fucked up normal it'll stand out.

>>159990292
They forced the combination of the themes, but not the themes themselves. The themes were both discussed and many people liked them. It wasn't just 2 people talking about boats and mecha non-stop.

>>159990418
>The themes were both discussed and many people liked them.
Not really.
It was a tiny,tiny fraction of the thread, but it doesn't matter, dino jam will just be another shitty one.

>>159990504
You know, space jam was a forced jam as well. I know because I'm the one that forced it. For a solid week I kept posting space photos and other space related things until finally someone made a space jam. That jam turned out pretty good. So just because you don't like the theme doesn't mean it's only a tiny fraction of the thread. The poal proves that as well, 29 votes for Dinosaur, which is more than 25% of the total votes.

>>159990740
>29 votes for Dinosaur
barely a quarter of our average IP count.

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>>159983375
http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2014/07/140724-feathered-siberia-dinosaur-scales-science/

>>159984720
Look at that fucking thing's neck. Must've hurt like shit when it died.

>>159989764
>I don't know what pedo means but I'll use it anyway yay memes xD

I really want to make a game where players can EXPLORE a world that I have been designing for a long time.

What's the best way to do so? Should it be an RPG? Walking sim? Something else?

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>>159990930

>>159990504
getting /agdg/ to stop shitposting and focus on a topic is impossible

the poll was continually posted (usually within the first couple posts) after the halloween jam and those are the results

if you don't like the dino theme, make whatever theme game you want and post it to the dino jam page anyways, because making game is more important than your shitty bickering.

>>159991308
Depends on a lot of things. What sort of world is it? How large is the world? How much exploration do you want to allow the player to have?

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its like darkest dungeon or something i dont really know where im going with this game

>>159991815
This is super cute, I like it.

Example:
Object.someMethod(3);

Instead of
int three = 3;
Object.someMethod(three);

Are these the same or does the second one take more space?

>>159991815
>mixels

>>159991886
If you have to ask then you really should learn a bit more about OOP.

>>159991886
Depends. After optimizations, no. Before optimizations, depends if the argument can be passed through a register or if it has to be put on the stack. When in doubt, the latter, in which case yes it uses a bit of space. That said, it doesn't fucking matter.

>>159991886
you might as well take up ASM if you worry about stuff like that m8.

>>159992386
>>159992508
s-s-sorry im new to programming

>>159992396
thank you

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>2 furfag games at the top of the demo page