/egg/ - Engineering Games General - Formerly /svgg/

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engineering is not dead

thread looks dead bros

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>>159840108
DO IT.
fucking sleeping giant is always expanding, slowly, quietly, faultlessly(tm).

/shill

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>>159946472

>>159946324
For anyone not up to date: The current update 1.157 STABLE has the same issue introduced when 1.157 DEV came out. The loading in of any player results in a server process shutdown. The logs do not show any reason as to why, neither basic nor extended. At the same time, 1.163 DEV has the issue, just as did 1.159, and so on.

As a result, the Warbros Spengies server is currently 100% out of commission, with no chance of recovery until Keen pushes an update to either DEV or STABLE that fixes this issue. The problem has been reported, but sparked no response or reaction. Attempts to dissect this further with Keen employee rexxar and the discord crowd of keendrones also resulted in "lol dunno".

This issue persists with an empty world, without mods, voxels and no player7faction data, so we can't even start fresh.

And thus, with heavy heart, I bid you guys farewell. I tried. I can't fix what's locked behind sealed books of arcane incompetency.

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>robocrafts update pushed the penalty timer for leaving a match up to 5minutes

That feel when your game is so fucking bad that mass droves of players just quit matches partway through to find a new match that you have to punish them to try and get them to complete matches.

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>>159948827
KEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEN

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>>159948827
>The current update 1.157 STABLE has the same issue introduced when 1.157 DEV came out.
>stable has no right to even exist, as predicted

The universe can not contain enough keks for this.

>>159947085
>hull and motherboards
Where's the armor?

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>>159948943
>robocraft used to get 20k players regularly
>now it doesn't even reach 8k

>>159948827
>mfw people still play that broken as fuck game
Has it literally ever worked?

>>159948827
Maybe they should abandon their weekly update shit and try to do more stable updates that arent forced shits.

>>159948827
What version was last working? I'll try to find it on github and build a version of SECE against it.

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3spooky5me

Also >mfw this faggot has everything covered with heavy armor on the insides

>>159953382
If I recall correctly, 1.153 DEV and the STABLE version prior to 1.157.

>>159949351
armor weighs more than hull

cloaking costs more energy the heavier you are

that is a space submarine

draw your conclusions now

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>>159949351
it's a permacloak/jam torpedo delivery service/RP ship.
less mass, easier cloaking.

>>159955594
show us the torpedo delivery service

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How many microchips you've chinkrigged today?

>>159955407
>>159955594
>sneeki-breeki spess sub
Well that explains it. I remember the stolen permacloak ship we had on BDLS' serb rip Made of dolom and duct tape with reactor spaghetti exposed. And how it was used and lost during the raid on bolice station. Good times.
NT#1

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>>159955649
>empty
putting on the finishing touches tonight, then i'll load her up and see if I can't get a nice gif of them firing or something.

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>>159955594
>>159947085
>>159955876

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>>159955857
It was a good serb, good people.

How autism do you need to be for starmie'd?
I can somewhat handle setting up a factory in the shittier MC modpacks to make advanced product but I gave up on starmade because of the community

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>>159955981
I have still failed to watch anything other than the live action Yamato movie.

>>159956109
Starmade has had a lot of effort put into video tutorials over the past year or so that are really up to date(makes a change). as for Autism level, I wouldn't say any more than Spengies, it's just how complicated you want to make life for yourself.

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>spengies is ded again

/egg/pyrion when?

>>159956028
Those infinite length shops always freaked me out

>>159956440
When it gets some more content other than "shoot and build shapes"

>>159956287
Unless you have a serious hard-on for old anime, 2199 is usually accepted as the better version to watch nowadays. They were careful with how they used CG (for ships only) so the battles look great, and they clear up most of the stranger plotholes from the original.
Also from what I just read of the film plot it's a bit less hectic (which is pretty normal with series/film adaptiations).

>>159956287
starmade has potentially infinitely much higher potential for autism compared to spengies because at some point of autism in spengies you get CLANG and low frame rate, whereas starmade is miraculously CLANG-free (so long as you do not perform the sanctioned clown rituals) and runs oddly smooth. the stuff you can actually do is a little limited since there's no coding block equivalent, but logic blocks go a long way.

So what's new in Starmade aside from the upcoming factions update? Last time I played it wasn't even on Steam yet, like... 2 or 3 years ago, I think.

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>>159957716
Rails, some neat logic blocks, shipyards that allow for creative mode style designing in survival, a new chunk loading system that seems to help with performance a fair bit, probably some other stuff but that's all I can immediately think of. Oh they added a cutting torch, ignores shields, we boarding parties now. oh and teleporters.

>>159957038
I shall heed your advice.

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former /egg/pyrions from the andromeda rising server, do you remember this bug?

>>159958675
No, not really, I wonder what that is about.

I do recall clipping into parts of the ship randomly from angles, though.

>>159959294
i think they finally fixed that bug where olayers would be "stuck" to a ship, and theyd be teleported inside the cockpit

>>159958348
Fuck, that actually sounds like a bunch of neat stuff. Should I wait for the faction stuff or try it again now? Is there a timeframe for the update?

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Why is the ammo taking such a long time to get to the clips? Did they nerf the speed from the ammo customizer to the ammo clips

>>159960391
What caliber are those bullets?

>>159960061
None that I've seen, I am hoping that they're going to try and atleast do a round hype-gen for the update to breath some much needed life into it, I recently started playing again just knocking crap together in creative, probably will wait for the big update before even looking for a serb.

Game still has it's own little clangs, last time (re:January) i used the shipyard they just ate my ship twice, but i think people are using them successfully now.

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What's the biggest thing you've made in space engineers survival 1x mode?

>>159960590
only 480mm

>>159960929
>only xboxhuge bullets
they should take ~2 minutes to load each bullet into the autoloader

>>159961321
Yet another reason why CRAMs are superior in every way

>>159961460

reminder that there is no reason to ever make a shell that won't fit into a belt-feed autoloader in FTD

>>159960865
A box

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>>159957339
>(so long as you do not perform the sanctioned clown rituals)
>clown rituals
LOOK MOM, I BECAME A MEME!

>>159962364
What happened?

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>>159962440
A contraption has attracted His attention and serb nearly got kill.
We should create a cult around the Machine and it's connection to our deity of sparks and dying hopes.
Regularly performing rituals that paralyze the server.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XPIS_aA4lrc
Corneroids was small potatoes. I remember the hate.

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>Reinstalled robocraft after a year
Wow.. what the fuck happened here?! They've barely added anything other than a few big cosmetic pieces and a few gimmicky weapons. Blocks with SMGs now have legs instead of wheels, that seems to be all they have to show for the devtime..
Where are the actual meat-and-potatoes type blocks such as 2x1 ramps/curves? (a more gradient angle using two blocks, one fatter, one the tip, etc. y'know). Where are good cosmetic blocks like exhaust pipes or buttons or wiring or various other greebles?

FtD take in less money (20 a head iirc as opposed to CRATEZ and MEMBERSHIPZ) and have piped out more engineering content with beter gameplay and even better multiplayer. What gives? Can somebody give me an autopsy of this thing, what went wrong?

>>159963146
Cash. Cow.

>>159963146
> what went wrong?
Everything. Let it rest in pieces

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>>159962364
Clowns, man.

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To think that a single clown can bring down an entire server with as much as a push of a button...
With Clang's aid we shall be unstoppable.

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>>159963831
>can bring down an entire server with as much as a push of a button

Buttons are terrifying devices

>>159963230
>>159963340
Fugggg. Now, the problem is I have that taste of building vehicles/mechs and fighting them in my mouth again. Is there some other game out that can scratch this itch?

The concept is so fucking good but this execution is so fucking bad...

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>>159956440
right meow

I went to take a dump and we were at page 10
I came back and we're still at page 10, so bump

>>159964516
REM?

>>159967683
>t.notREMdev

>>159963951
>"Server self-CLANG"
>"DO NOT PRESS"

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>>159968140
It aint me.

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>>159964516
But just in case you'd like to know, here's somethin quick.

>>159968140
>do not press it
>crashes anyways
keen : ^)

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>>159948827
You tried your damnedest Ced, there's gotta be a place in Valhalla reserved just for you guys

So what have you found so far N3X15

Is it fixable or is it SECE time

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>>159957339
>CLANG-free

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None of you fuckers ever found my spaceweed farm.

FUCK DA SPACE POPO

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Would that someone would make Corneroids great again...

>>159971786
>sidestairs

>>159972839
Corneroids is and was by far the most primitive game we've hosted.

>>159972736
[DISTANT SPACE SIRENS]

>>159972884
Primitive means you can invest more in its potential future and get hype for really infrequent updates
look what happened to all the games that got "developed" and "updated"

>>159973391
You're saying an unfinished prototype with almost no depth is better than a flawed system that's more feature complete. If that were true we would have played longer than a few months.

>>159973391
>hype for really infrequent updates
Does that mean you're still hype for the next Corneroids update?
A few years just means more time for the hype to grow, right?

I cannot into .webms
https://youtu.be/HaBvv3oyvL4

>>159963140
Don't fucking remind me.
Why did it have to die?

>>159975778
The devs were Squad-tier scam artists.

Does competitive FtD exist and is there a preferred block count or resource limit?

Is it any good or is the playerbase gay and meta?

>>159976871
playerbase gay and meta

>>159976871
Some tournaments are held on the forums, the player base is made of annoying autistic snoflek faggots.

>>159975268
>Fire the NERF torpedoes!
I'm not an expert on the game, but is there always a single gravity direction? I was thinking, giving it multiple conning towers would be cool

>>159940634
This is my intended idea, it's a test to see who can build the killiest thing(s) on the spot with the only time constraint being your opponent killing you first. A real test of one's FtD skills.

Heart stones fuck that up?

>>159977043
gravity direction is set by clicking on a gravity block, orientation of the block chooses your 'up/down' so you could have fun with that. I think you can activate them with trigger areas, so walking around a cylinder should work, probably a little jarring though.

>space engineers just updated
>again
what did they forget to fix this time?

>>159976871
Fucking, thats what this map I am making is trying to prevent. By being forced to build on the spot, players won't have the time to autistically fine tune every little thing. You have to just make shit and hope its enough to withstand whatever the enemy has. I made it kinda like
......O......
..o..O...o.
......O......
With the Top and bottom big O's being the team's spawn islands, and the middle o's being resource islands.

Is it shit /egg/?

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>>159977790
>Attrition-based engineering
...this is the sort of idea an entire game can end up based on.
I'm not saying it should since I don't trust devs any more, but that's damn good.

>>159972040
Should've saved the view from the 'roid.
It was like that Interstellar scene, except viewed from the station and spinning faster. A lot.

>>159978167
I mean I made the map anon. Its not polished or well made and I only spent like an hour tops on it and I'm pretty sure I fucked up and swapped the pass/fail triggers so when you win it tells you you lose. And you spawn inside your starting base and have to float out, also it has heartstones which apparently is a bad idea (?). But its on the Steam Workshop and playable now.

>>159977790
>>159978167
Yeah it's an interesting idea I'd watch it but it's not something I'd participate in myself. Doesnt sound comfy.I love the endless fine tuning

I'm guessing the main problem with competitive FtD is the same as every other game? There's no objective way to decide what's cool and what's meta?

>>159978973
There's also a mod called spud something that I believe has predefined units each side can spawn in, and all the vehicles are player controlled only. That might be more up your alley?

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>>159978740
make the win/lose thing 7% and you have an American win/loss system.

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>>159979272
>Those gears
Explains a lot

>>159979226
Nope. I didn't have anything that ambitious in mind just something simple like this boat vs that boat maybe with block/resource classes that doesn't degenerate into a bunch of heavy armor boxes

>>159978973
>There's no objective way to decide what's cool and what's meta?
Is there a way to create an objective to work towards? Some kind of scripting wizardry to track the progress?
[autism]
Because I have some ideas:
>capture and hold an area/resource node for x minutes
>conquest aka same as above but with multiple areas
>king of the hill aka non-team capture
>deathmatch
>team deathmatch
>boarding - building limited to existing entities, must capture enemies' ships and repair your own; teams with no ships lose
>pursuit - one team rushes to a gate, other team tries to stop them
>clash of fleets - fleet vs fleet, objective is to destroy enemy flagship while defending your own
[/autism]

>>159979891
I'd be down to work on a few of those with you, have you used planet editor before?

>>159979272
>literally blocked to a standstill
Perfect.

>>159979891
>no objective way to decide what's cool and what's meta?

I mean how people want to build cool vehicles and fight other cool vehicles but the metagamers ruin it for everyone and as far as I know there's no objective way to draw the line between a cool, fun entry and a boring heavy armor brick that was only designed to win.

>>159980174
I have seen it and even poked it with a stick aka changed a few variables and nearly frying my toaster in the process but the idea of figuring how to do even some of that in it scares me shitless. Yes, I'm the useless "idea guy". Please don't abandon the whole endeavor.
Still, I'll try to help if I can.

>>159980731
I guess only way to fight it is self-moderation aka calling shitheads out on that.
Besides, players can come up with counters even to that. PAC AA anyone?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KNKvOcH_lqk

WE ALREADY HAVE EGGHIEM FAGGOTS

>>159980731
>>159981017
Could still play it ala ace of spades as well.

who wants to 1v1 me fgts?

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>>159981406
>who wants to 1v1 me fgts?

Where, How? What are the conditions?

>>159981556
You guys chose a really fuckin' difficult name to Google.

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>>159981934
Technically speaking, its The REM Project, which is like the sixth result.

>>159982034
https://remproject.wordpress.com/
Sort of.

>>159981731
Shitpostia

>>159981358
Eggheim is for long campaigns.
And the "instant action"-maps are for quick objective-oriented action-packed session with minimum prep time.
>>159981406
>AoS
>capture the intel gamemode
This got me thinking - capture the vessel mode where teams snag each other's flagships/botes/whatever and drag them back to their base.

Also capture&holding can be facilitated by a structure that can be captured, as well as bombed to hell if it lacks defense. If only we could make part of it indestructible an "anchor" with plenty of repair drones and swiftly regenerating.

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>>159980731
Gimmicks like Tavern brawl in Hearthstone.
I.E. Only steam engines, Rams only, lasers only, simple weapons only, etc.
THis forces new and interesting design, if a meta in one developes, make a combination: say Steam Engine with Rams only, so train battles. Hell, Airships only.

>>159982845
God I wish there was infantry and crew-served stuff. Like something as basic as a handle so you can have some guys pull something to turn it like a crewed AT gun.

And I still want smaller scale blocks but just making the vehicles small by status quo is good enough. You'll have to balance resources for that or you'll still get people deploying Rattes.

>>159983147
Friend and I attempted this. Banning guns is a really good idea, especially non-cram cannons. They can fire completely accurately and punch right through any sort of helium envelope.

>>159983829
Airships with simple cannons only would likely be fun af. Wooden ships could be fun, not the constant metal 2fast4u botes.

>>159984474
Wooden dirigibles are comfy.

>>159984474
>>159984529
I'm pretty sure there's literally a gamemode mod for this.

>>159983147
Airships only you say? http://imgur.com/a/XDy2v
>>159981358
next eggheim when?
>>159983829
Sounds fun
>>159984474
Like pirate ship wars or guns of icarus? sounds great.

I can host the map if anyone is interested.

One little nuance about it is that everything has to be in play, so its basically as small as it can be but the bases are probably 5000+m in between the bases or more, so super long range missiles might be viable.

If no one is interested in playing the map right now, I'm going to go ahead and make an airship variant of it. Banning everything but wood, helium, and simple weapons. Anything I should leave in? Steam engines?

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>space combat thread on /v/
>155 replies
>no ChoDE partition opinions
I tried, but ded.

>>>/v/357453527

Also bless the new patch that nerfs aerogel against lasers to a reasonable level.

Aerogel is still the best outer armor, its just not magical bullshit.
And it makes sense for aerogel to be used on spaceships.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k8OhJKR3AA4

>>159987292
Aaaaaaand I'm done, for the most part. Honor system on not using heavy armor or metal, but all weapons except simple weapons and particle cannons have been locked. If someone wants to rig up some ships for it I'll throw em in, otherwise it'll be build your own.

>>159988518

>>159984903

>>159988735
Well, either way we should get a bunch of people and play it, sounds like it could be cool

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WE NEED TO MAKE WARBROS GREAT AGAIN
WHO SHOULD WE INVADE?

>>159988994
>working servers
I'd be down if we could. We need to adapt a few things from the workshop though. That server scanner for one, and use that to feed targeting data to GPS warp missiles, or if we wanna get creative, warships using the Fleet Command script.

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I further miniaturized the mini gunbote into a micro gunbote and added flares it's punches pretty well above it's weight now despite losing a turret.

top speed is about 22m/s level 4 shields, anti-shield frag ac. 6666 resources, good fuel efficiency.

>>159988735
post link to mod

>>159969778
>>159967683
Well, this looks like SPengies and Galactic Junk League had a baby who was born with a better build engine that let you make any shape you wanted by dragging vertexes instead of placing voxels... But that doesn't look anything like robocraft as a game where you build mechs and airplanes and tanks and stuff and fight them. Even if you fight the things you build that looks like it's spaceships (yawn, already played spengies to death)

I mean something where you progress and unlock parts and have a wide array of blocks to build something creative (instead of block, angle block, corner block and inverted corner block = "creativity"). Basically, robocraft but actually developed instead of bailed on as a perma-alpha cash-cow early-access-tier piece of shit.

>>159992281
>instantly dismissing REM

Don't blame you tbqh, but it'd be nice if it wasn't LOL SPESSHSAPS R BORING!!

Give it a go, you might like it.

Have you ever played a spess game where armor thickness and angling actually counted for jack shit?

>>159981556

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>>159989227
>server scanner
>warp missiles

Nani?

>>159992451
Stop not paying attention to the thread. If you miss a thread you should read it.

>>159992428
>>159992281
REM is going to have ground you turds. They already said they tested the concept with the engine a while ago and they're just moving down the list of shit to do.

>>159992428
It's not that I am saying they are objectively boring, but rather that I am subjectively burnt out on them plus the biggest part is the fact it isn't actually a game like robocraft which is what I asked in the first place. It missed the main point of what I asked pretty cleanly.

>"Hey guys I like lemon cake but my local cake shop have stopped giving a shit and are making bad lemon cake, what other companies making citrus cakes should I try?"
>"Well friendo, if you like lemon cake you should check out the cranberry pie from this obscure cranberry pie shop that I just so happen to absolutely randomly know about and probably totally maybe don't even own"

>>159992596
But will it be like World of _____ with building your own varied vehicles and stuff? It just annoys me when there's a good concept that the originator lets down then nobody actually picks it up and makes a good version...

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>>159992596
>REM is going to have ground you turds.
Funny thing to tell one of the developers, but you're right.

We dicked around with hardcoded tanks and they work really well, even with small maps. Considering we can make the maps fuckmassive and filled with what the fuck ever, we can do some neat stuff.

>>159992734
>it isn't actually a game like robocraft which is what I asked in the first place

God I fucking hope not.

>>159992734
>But will it be like World of _____ with building your own varied vehicles and stuff?
Is it not already? There can be any number of game modes possible. All there is now is a test arena, an AI pilot, and an early draft of the build, weapon, stress, physics, and materials systems. Worry about meta shit later.

>>159992821
>We dicked around with hardcoded tanks and they work really well, even with small maps.
Just make sure you make it possible for me to design my own suspension. Access to coil, leaf and torsion springs would be nice.

>>159992821
>God I fucking hope not.
I mean the concept of robocraft. Playing matches of an objective-based wargame (elimination arena, CTF, TDM, etc.) with your own built creation unlocking parts to add onto the concept you have or to get brand new types of parts to build new kinds of things entirely, with mechs and aircraft and tanks and helicopters, hover-vehicles etc. all duking out in a few gamemodes You absolutely cannot deny it's a good core concept regardless of what shitty and greedy devs freejam are.

At the very least appreciate that a small playerbase plus "the main space mode" and "maybe ground mode for the people who like that I guess" makes me think it will all be divided so thinly that it would be like trying to queue up for ground in WarBlunder (ie: enjoy your 10 minute wait times)

>>159992838
So is it even playable then or is it like a three person /eeg/ alpha?

>>159993287
>So is it even playable then or is it like a three person /eeg/ alpha?

It was in the op for a while, but it was unified out. Just subscribe to my youtube channel, or check the website every now and then.

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCzp2XM98-FcFWAqhFjnxSbg/videos
https://remproject.wordpress.com/

Downloads page is on the top bar of the main site, please send any complaints or bugs to the email address mentioned on said page.

>At the very least appreciate that a small playerbase plus "the main space mode" and "maybe ground mode for the people who like that I guess" makes me think it will all be divided so thinly that it would be like trying to queue up for ground in WarBlunder (ie: enjoy your 10 minute wait times)

We're going for custom, player run servers over LOL WE OWN EVERYTHING YOU CAN'T PLAY WITHOUT OUR SAY :))))))))

>>159993456
>We're going for custom, player run servers over LOL WE OWN EVERYTHING YOU CAN'T PLAY WITHOUT OUR SAY :))))))))
Well, that does sound interesting but without some concept of lobby, "matches", central matchmaking, progression, types of vehicles, etc. it's frankly not anything like the concept I'm looking for in an engineering game.

It is, as I estimated, a really cool SpEngies and GJL mashup with an extremely good build mode (but that's all still not what I'm looking for). I'm not trying to be a jerk m8, but you're making a very convincing pitch for wrenches when I'm looking for a hammer. Still, noice as fuck build mode you guys got there.

>>159993825
>Well, that does sound interesting but without some concept of lobby, "matches", central matchmaking, progression, types of vehicles, etc. it's frankly not anything like the concept I'm looking for in an engineering game.

That's the thing, you hop on a server, say, warbros or what the fuck ever and everything is exactly as you expect with a full lobby system where you can walk about and challenge other players and have the whole matchmaking experiance.

We do, however, think progression through grind is pointless cancerous fluff and should be abolished. Progression using other mechanics linked to entire technology trees are another matter, but nothing so awful as paying for every part. What we're going to do will be decided when we get there. Don't know where you think vehicle types won't be a thing, those are decided by the player. Things with tracks are probably tanks, for example.

You're looking for World of Robocraft without the jewry, and you're going to be looking a very long time.

At least give REM a go, m80, its free.

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>>159994168
>You're looking for World of Robocraft without the jewry, and you're going to be looking a very long time.
Fuggg :DDDD

I'd really not even mind their moneygrabbling if it actually had a good build mode and you could make interesting things that weren't just "bricks with SMGs and legs". Like, voxels work in theory but you need _at_least_ 2x1 or even 2x2 ramps and curves in my imo (even better if they come in base and wedge style segments).

I guess I'll just "idea guy" and bitch at freejam on their forums or something since I don't know fuck about making my own game from the ground up (I can actually texture and model art assets but I'm lost on coding).

>At least give REM a go, m80, its free.
Todd, pls. Skyrim 2 is almost out, why aren't you promoting that instead?
Yeah I might try it out sometime down the road, it looks nice but I'm seriously burnt out on spess sheeps. PS: Why can thrusters work without a clear path outside the ship frame? This tickles my 'tism

>>159994748
>Yeah I might try it out sometime down the road, it looks nice but I'm seriously burnt out on spess sheeps. PS: Why can thrusters work without a clear path outside the ship frame? This tickles my 'tism

We litterally just haven't gotten to it yet. More difficult than you think, surprisingly enough. We're going to re-fuck the physics, then unfuck them, which will break everything. In that time we will add things like this.

>>159972736
what game is that? the landscape looks like minecraft, but the lighting doesn't

AVORION WHEN

>>159995179
Starmade, noob.

>>159995557
Holy fuck seriously

>>159995179
its disappointment

comfy spess buildan game with functional wheels when

>>159996407
there is a planet nomads demo going arround.
Wheels look good there, i dont know if there is a torrent or something.

>>159996482
is that the game where there was a recent webum posted with a basketball american landing a spess ship on a planet and getting into a rover? If those rovers are buildable that would be bretty cool

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>>159996559
>basketball american landing a spess ship on a planet and getting into a rover?
i dont know, but i want to watch that webm.
Here is a pic.

>>159996630
>T R A C K S
HOT DAMN

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>>159996754
Yea, other games are taking tank tracks more seriously.
The idea seems simple, you dont have a tensor, but both power crowns, and then the suspension wheels, you place them, and then the thread builds it self following the arrange.
>on the other side, keen cant into regular wheels
This dosent work because its based on rotors, and they wobble and the weels go through them.

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>>159996927
here is the 1st and last field test.

nightly reminder
gas the nukeen

>>159998354
>nukeen
>nuke
We must irradiate them externally.

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Good night /egg/

>>160001403
my summer car was a mistake

There are people on /egg/ playing Starmade again?
Damn. I should go back and finish my mini container ship.

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I just started making rocket parts for a lunch in factorio and I'm having a problem keeping my huge smelter belt well fed. Problem is Iron spots get depleted relatively fast so it feels like building train outposts just for them would suck quite a lot of dick. Is this normal in default settings? Should I just restart with richer iron spots? I still have most of my starting copper spot but in the meantime I've raped nearly 3 iron spots. I would've loved to automate everything and try to get my first "1 launch per minute" but it's already looking so tedious to manage the iron when I'm not even at the production level I'd need for one satellite per minute.

>>160002454

I want to, but Im holding off for NPC crews update, which is probably months away.

Proper NPC factions are coming very soon, which will actually eat up space and rescources to expand heir empires.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pXmMArgf7AQ

NPC crews that do things on your stations and ships are happening sometime after the NPC faction update. Im mainly holding off because I want to see what kinds of needs the NPC crews need. I dont want to build cool ass ships only to find that I need super specific room sizes, and entertainment areas/messhalls and shit for the crew that totally fucks over my design. I want to know it all before I start building.

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Why don't we play garry's mod?

>>160002751
isnt the sandbox portion dead and its just darkrp now days?


Also recommend me some good egg books

>>160002751

Because its like 20 years old and looks like shit.

>>159962895
What sort of horrible thing did you build?

>>160002815
>sandbox
>there will never be construction-survival

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I don't know when nick changed textures for the jet exhausts, but they look much better now IMO

>>160002815
Leonardo Da Vinci's notebook? It's available free online. Villard de Honnecourt's one is interesting too.

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>>160002820
>Because its like 20 years old
>GMod is 20 years old
I've been here too long.

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>>160002820
>>160004327
>gmod 20 years old
Jesus christ.

>>160002487
Check that you aren't storing too many high level items. Its easy to drain your entire resource input by having a steel chest being filled with rocket parts.

>>159972736
>tfw blanids will never have a use other than as oversized asteroids

Automatic, renewable resource mines when, Schema?

>>160006063
Normies and physicians. Gmod is low-level enough that only true autismos will find fun from it.

>>160004327
>>160004770
it's 12 years old

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>>160002454
For now I'm just shitposting creative ship projects, waiting for dat factions update.


>>160006067
I actually would like to see larger planets, they look great when each plate is like 1000 blocks across. Not tried it myself to see what performance is like though, something to do.

>>160006063
>System requirements not met
>That common
u wot
It's fucking GMod, are there seriously that many idiots using aged laptops to play games?
Why did I bother asking that?

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>>159988518
>If someone wants to rig up some ships for it I'll throw em in

I made this. Wood only, uses simple weapons, steam engines and jets. It has AI, detection equipment and heartstone.
The only thing it's missing is a paintjob. If you want it, i'll upload it

>>160006703
>creative ship projects
>shitposting

posting original content relevant to the thread is like the definition of the opposite of shitposting, son

>>160006972
By the way, it took me ~30 minutes to kill a single vanguard using only simple weapons

Ced, since the serb is ded, is there any chance you could upload the world save to the workshop?

>>160010113
Sure, give me a moment.

>>160010113
>>160010451
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=798169835

There ya go.

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r8 my tonk

Who #EE here?

>>160011345
unified/10

>>160010682
Danke.

>>160011395
Entitled Enviromentalist?
nope

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>1000r blaneds

SEND HELP

>>160012039
planets actually being relevant for gameplay other than shooting big beams at them when?

>>160012447
If only. an Anon up the thread somewhere mentioned the idea of having them be for mines that replenish themselves over time. dat slow but passive ore gain. Would be interesting.

I prefer ground bases to stations, so any addition to planets would be hot. I am of the sort who enjoys fiddly things, I would enjoy having to stock ships with supplies, and planets could be used for farmland.

>>160011395
EnterElysium

My unbiased opinion? He's a cretin, a decerebrate, his head contain a vacuum so absolute that the EMDrive couldn't generate thrust in it, he repeatedly ignores big, red, flashing warning signs that straight up scream "YOU ARE DOING IT WRONG YOU MORON!" and continues ramming his head doing the same, exact mistake over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over till the RNG takes pity on him and causes some planet alignment tier Deus Ex Machina that at allows him to """"""win""""""" (more like "the game had suffered enough of him and want to get rid of him in any way possible") with the bare minimum requisites.
He could pretty much dethrone DPS in the "I don't know jack shit about videogames" category if he changed his channel to "Come see me play games" to "Come see me being an absolutely braindead imbecile"

>>160013161
>he repeatedly ignores big, red, flashing warning signs that straight up scream "YOU ARE DOING IT WRONG YOU MORON!"
So, basically every lets player?

>>160013161
Agreed. EE's kind of retardedness is quite popular with the jewtube drones unfortunately.

>>160013161
>his head contain a vacuum so absolute that the EMDrive couldn't generate thrust in it
kek

>>160013308
Nah, i've seen some that actually pay notice and can catch their mistakes.
Mike Aben is quite ok in that regard as is Toxic Timewaster.
They also have a human sounding voice and don't try to go "I'm so fucking british i shit the motherfucking Queen", and that's a plus in my book (looking at you Avaak)

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Well, 480r, 7fps and falling through the surface.

butt huge blaneds aren't on my menu today.
It felt like I was playing spengos

>>160013421
I don't get how anyone likes Aavak. He's utterly fucking daft and character-less in so many ways, and then he does mostly "blind" LPs. He's like Jack from RLM, except less obnoxious and bald. But his factorio shit with a bunch of other screaming retards can be fun.

We need a /egg/player on Youtube.

>>160013783
How would that even work?

>>160013836
fruitless endeavours, poor upload schedule, minor bouts with depression and anger.

>>160013836
Someone capable to introduce others to the wonders of CLANG! with none of the cancer.

>>160013783
bob, tt, tumbles, comr4de and so on not enough for you?

>>160014173
bob and tumbles do not match any channel i or youtube's search function know of that satisfy the requirements, comr4de has turned up one result but the channel seems focused mostly around a C&C Red Alert 3 mod.

>>160014421
I kind of just upload whatever, all my webms end up on here.
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UClit216ImmtSHhX2BE2PF9A

>tfw you get a mention on an almost popular channel
https://youtu.be/HzH7PXtSd6A?t=485

Friday Facts #164 - Nuclear power
NOVEMBER 11 - KLONAN
Hello!

The planned release date of 0.15
There are many things we want to have finished for 0.15, so the estimate isn't precise. The plan is to have approximately 3 months to implement all the planned changes, so it could be expected around february 2017.

The optimisations
The decoratives optimisations that were mentioned in the fff-157[www.factorio.com] are finished and working well. Not only the save file has been reduced (46Mb to 25 Mb on my map), but the memory footprint and overall performance is better. The reason of the performance improvement is, that once decorative isn't regular entity, it doesn't need to be iterated over when doing area based entity search (typically for collision checks) and also the memory fragmentation is not that bad.

Rseding is doing a lot of small optimisations for 0.15. Each of them is usually not that big, but the overall gain starts to be noticeable. We will cover them in more details in the next fff, but I expect that the 0.15 will provide a big performance boost.

Nuclear power
We created the basic specification of the nuclear power this week, so we can start working on it.

The plan is to implement the nuclear power in a way, that it is almost always more efficient to make bigger and more complex setup compared to just copy pasting the "standard nuclear power blueprint" over and over. This is the list of changes and additions we are planning.
NUCLEAR POWER INCOMING
ELVES BTFO AGAIN

>>160014421
https://www.youtube.com/user/BobdaBiscuit
this is bob

he mostly plays roboshit though

>>160014828
>3 months for small addings

wew are they retarded or something?

>>159977487
>>159977790
I set up a macro that builds the killiest ship from scratch.
Killship flies to your base while you're still trying to make things float.
You die.

The idea of preventing load in is silly, and significant parts of the forum bullshit stems from lack of limitations.
A simple map with limits to resource production and in-combat blocks goes a long way.

>>159979891
>Is there a way to create an objective to work towards?
Consider Starcraft or Age of Empires - doesn't matter which installment of which series.
If you wanted to establish what works well in the game, would any of your proposed game modes give you an answer?
Would you learn anything about Zerg vs Protoss matchups and build orders by pitting 200 zerglings against 50 zealots?
No. You're not gonna learn shit about how the meta in an RTS-style skirmish FtD map would develop when you're playing "design two ships and pit them against each other".

>>160002487
>I'm going for my first 1 launch per minute
>a bloo bloo 3 iron spots are dead
You have no fucking idea what kind of resource input you need to achieve your objective.
Why don't you do some superficial math, and get an estimate of how much iron ore you'd need to mine every minute?

>>160014997
at least they're hopefully taking the time to plan it right unlike keen who will rush in any changes they make in a week regardless if it has been tested or not

>>160015712
this
>add fancy font support
>multiplayer now even more fucked as if that was possible

my 7950 a dead.
I need laptop tier egg (i5-3320m).
suggestions?

>>160017431
At this point, I can only ask Keo to reinstall the box, but I am not 100% if that would even help. I'll shoot him a message.

>>160017924
I doubt it's you guys, Keen's almost made a hobby of ruining multiplayer at this point.
>tfw need to just let go

>>160017924
>>160019239

Pretty much this.
You guys throw yourselves into this every time, and its fun as fuck for a month or so, and then Keen ruin it.
We all appreciate your service to clang and country, but it's just what happens.

We're currently at the point of 'the fun has stopped'. Maybe in eight months the fun will be possible again if Keen understand what the fuck 'stable' actually means and then stick to it.
Who knows. This year they've started actually improving, after all, maybe one day they'll actually be - dare I say it - competent.

We live in hope.
Constantly dashed hope, but still hope.

>>159974395
The mind forgets, the memory fades
but the game still inspires nostalgia and would be able to be used as a cashgrab from a small but desperate population of corneroids fans if it ever got rebooted
>>159973515
a few months to a NEET could be like a year to some when you don't need to know what day or even what year it is
people will seldom complain about a game that isn't good but isn't getting broken even more constantly

Still waiting on N3X15 to get back with the results of building a SECE build against the current version and debugging it.

Personally the next time Spengies is remotely stable with working multiplayer we should freeze it and start developing SECE wholeheartedly. I mean have Ced migrate the server and everything.

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>>160023114
if this means I can comfy in peace without being tormented by incompetent czechs every week I'm all for it
It all makes sense when you realize it came out of the same country as The Good Soldier Svejk

member corneroids?

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>>160023802
cri

>>160023114
This actually makes sense considering I don't foresee any useful features being added any time soon. I'm sure they will make their dumb dog things spawn on asteroids or some dumb shit but we don't need that.

All they seem to do now is 'bugfixes'.

Have keen clanged themselves into a infinite loop of bug fixing and then creating bugs with those fixes?

>>160024269

All they really seem to be working on latley is those new graphics for everything we keep seeing teasers of. It's looking like beautiful stuff, but at the same time, not worth the aggro of all the fucking bugs.

In FTD should I be using 4M blocks for the hull? Wouldn't it be worse off than four 1M blocks when it's destroyed?

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>>160024584
When will they get cool lighting like this?

The texture/color face tool in empyrion is probably one of the best parts. Along with all the deco blocks.

>>160024924
They have more health than 4 blocks.

iirc its 250hp for a 1m block and then 1200 for a 4m one

check the block info

>>160024924
What >>160025030 says. Also, it goes easier on your CPU

>>160025030
I'm talking structurally. Because it would leave a bigger hole behind wouldn't it?
I guess I could reinforce the hull with single blocks.

First, the bad news: I can't backport to 0.153.

Possibly good news is that github master is apparently 0_158, so I can try building that for you.

>>160026424
1.157 already had the issue in question, though.

http://forum.keenswh.com/threads/1-157-3-onwards-dev-ds-joining-server-causes-server-shutdown-on-client-load-in-persists-in-1-158.7388257/

>>160026660
Okay. I can't checkout to an earlier version because the native binaries that don't ship with GitHub have changed too much and are unusable.

Did they add a lot of music to Factorio in the past 6 months?
I feel like I miss the old music that reminded me some industro-funk New Vegas shit.

>>160030630
If it is hot enough maybe it leaks vapor:^)

>>160030630
This is for serious fires only.

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Found an old blueprint with some factories, dumping a couple screenies because whynot

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>>160035249
should update these with delicious slabs

>>160035249
>>160035419
neat as fuck

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I havent played Robocucks in like 2 months and I accidentally removed Bob from my friendslist.I need an invite to the /egg/man group anyway.

>bobs online
>click his name
>it automatically sends him a platoon invite
>click on his name again
>"remove player"
>think it removes player from my platoon list invite
>it removes player from my friendslist
>fuck
>try to re-add bob to my friends list
>"User does not exist"

i just wanted to see their new map.

Its me CrunkPrime

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>>160035419


>>160035843
thanks

>>160036109
I also need an invite

isleynumber1

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>>160036160

>>160036109
>>160036229
Get out

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>>160011345
Nice mantlet armour

>>160037386
>read that as manlet at first
kek

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>>160019383
>We live in hope.

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Spengoes players are like fucking trailer park wives.

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>>160037386
I also wish FtD had bigger wheels

>>160015376
I understand it's ridiculously much more than that but if I'm going to relocate outposts every hour it's gonna get annoying damn quick. I'm playing this to automate things not build railroads as fast as the depletion of my inputs.

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>>160038461
No, we are like krokodil addicts. It's destroying us but we can't stop using.

>>160013928
Robbaz?

Probably the only non-cucked swedish guy around.
60% sure he shitposts or lurks /v/ as well

>>160039195
i could believe it from some of the shit he says.

>>160015129
I'd rather run the risk of 1 autist (you) setting up a macro or using prefabs like an asshole then not make the map. Also, if you did that, I'm sure people would just eventually stop playing it with you. This is a map where people will have to build unique creations each time. Is it better to focus on Rush VS Turtle, Sea vs Air, etc.

>Don't limit things!
>but the lack of limitations is what makes forumshit gay!

Ok anon, you aren't gud enuff to build shit quick enough on your own and have to resort to cheap tricks like macros or prefabbing, got it.

>>160039736
speaking of the map, anybody want to play a match?

>>160039906
I'm down.

Which version do you want? All or Air only?

I think my internet can handle up to a 3v3

>>160040076
All

01_158 looks like it dropped for stable. There are some rendering issues, but it may work better.

>>160040276
Are you still working on FtD or no?

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>get into my first player vs player fight in empyreeeeeeeon
>guys ship is just a fucking borg cube covered in guns, with like 20 layers of armor on every side

Is this what its going to be like when we run into real AYYs? We have beautifully crafted ships, and they show up in ugly minmaxed armor bricks with thrusters and guns in every direction?

>>160040314
He was unified with the other devs out of a job

>>160040463
thats what its like in spengies too

the only difference is the enrgybshkeld mod

if empyrion had shield, aesthetic ships would be good

>>160040463
Nah.
Our space cylinders with front-loaded, Trump Walls of dakka death will keep the illegayys away from out system, and THEY WILL PAY FOR IT with their very lives and tech.

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>>160040690
I destroyed a great many nigger cubes with just some little neato aesthetic fighters in spengies since fighter guns out range turrets and nigger cubes are limited by thruster damage and thruster cost so they cant move as fast. However in empyrion they can just slap 300 thrusters per side on the inside and rcs blocks and more like a nig.

>>160040463
I kinda saw that one coming. I scouted out peoples shit in pve sectors and only saw nig cubes and prefabs so I spawned 40 motorbikes inside someones cube and then left to play on my friends private server.

checked the homeworld servers website and im banned now as well oops

>>160040314
Nick could no longer afford to pay me, so I'm unemployed.

>>160040463
>Muh interior design
I just finished inserting a phallic-shaped object into my anus and you're gayer than I will ever be.

>>160039736
>Is it better to focus on Rush VS Turtle
Depends if you give the players any starting vehicles.
If you don't, then rush is the better option.
If you can have a combat-ready ship at the enemy base while he's still building, then the game is over at first contact.

>This is a map where people will have to build unique creations each time
You're deluding yourself.
Do you seriously believe that no one will think "huh, this worked pretty well, let's do it again"?
Sure, you might see a few blocks difference, but whatever.

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>>160041170
maybe squad will have you back

>>160042719
Didn't they just fire everyone?

>>160042556
He's saying he's worried about ayys using cubes instead of phalluses because larger surface area, even though the phallus is obviously superior.

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>>160041142
>>160040463
This was the best design I found that was purely for player-vs-base combat, or stationary targets.

Slim and hard to hit, but with the advent of repair blocks it's up in the air for anyone's guess at what the most optimal shit is.

>even singleplayer spengos now always crashes eventually
I think it's finally time that I can let go. Now to begin engineering the semi-automatic dildo rifle once more...

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>>160042617
Of course the one doing the rushing would have to hope the enemy hasn't set up any kind of defenses on their starting fort. Missiles and shit are pretty fast and easy to set up

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Andromeda Rising is back up

the admin's crashed with no survivors

good news is that there was a wipe so we can start out on a comfy blaned

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also everyone is primitive now because of the wipe so we won't have any faggots going to newbies on a PVP planet and violating the prime directive

>>160046630
Is this empyrion? Tell me how to join you guys and I'll play.

>>160047510
search for the server "Andromeda Rising" in the searchbar of the multiplayer server list

/EGG/PYRION 2.0 BEGINS

also spawn on the planet Atlantia

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>>160042617
How about you just try it instead of bitching, maybe you'll have some fun. Playing games CAN be fun you know.

No shit people will find effective designs and use them again, so will other people. Fact is that it actually feels hectic even with just a 1v1.

Pic related, the anon I played with built 10km missiles while I built up my anti air and anti submarine defenses and kept up a constant bombardment that eventually rekt my shit.

I'm just saying man, maybe if you try it you'll have some fun. Its kind of like the Harbor Wars or w/e from Gmod.

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>>160040463
Depends.

>>160047706
I've only played once before, singleplayer, and it confused the shit out of me

Can you guys help guide me and shit?

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>>160048091
From the blue base, with love <3

>>160048256
sure

the f1 tutorial is useful, read it

>>160049095
>>160047706
Yeah it doesn't show up in the server list.

>>160049827
try waiting a few seconds before searching, I think searching cancels the refresh

>>160049827
It had some other shit in front of it, don't search if for A because it doesn't show up
Or at least this happened last time i tried to join

>>160049827
you need to turn on anti cheat whatever, I remember this from last time /egg/pyrion was thing

>>160050091
This anon saved me.

Some british cuckwords in front of the server. Which blandid should I spawn on?

>>160047706
>>160047510
Start empyrion, go the to the settings, enable anti-cheat, restart empyrion, check server list, Andromeda rising will be there

>>160050209
>>160050091
>>160049827
I think it was (US - EU - AUS) Andromeda Rising

either way, just input ( and it should find it pretty quickly, but yeah, EAC needs to be on, as well.

>>160050260
>>160050467
It's already solved guys, which planet should I spawn in

>>160050506
atlantia

>>160050618
W-we aqualads now?

Ok I'm on the planet, is there somewhere we should meet up? How do I contact you guys?

>>160050946
join the faction egg by pressing Tab, going to factions and applying

then press comma to faction chat

>>160051431
applied

Does anyone know what the server's weapon limits are?

Uh, did whoever was guiding me DC or are you done for the night?

>>160052817
got dcd

10

>>160056295
9

hey series you took some stuff that wasn't yours

pls to log in

[s4s] made a game
is it /egg/

>>>/s4s/4898931

https://www.dropbox.com/s/xgr9eksa0defhmn/SuberGondolaLand%20V.3.zip?dl=0

>>160059368
It's butiful!

>>160036318
>>160036160
>>160035419
>>160035249

You could add animation to these with rails, if they're really old. be really easy to hide rotatory and rails in there.

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Workin' on new bote

>>160059368
I'll have to read a pamphlet on [s4s] culture some time

>>160063880
ironic early /b/

people feeling superior by pretending to be retarded

>>>/trash/6288283

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>>160064932
good for them, accepting their home
quick, bolt the lid down and sit something on it

>>160063615
some good aesthetics there

i feel like the turrets should have a little bump in the center on the front like the top front of the boat

same with the cabin/cockpit thing

you get me?

>>160064289
Isn't that basically just politics?

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>>160063615
Noice. I like the recognizable aesthetic and speed stripe

3rd world migrants bankrupted my country so I'm downsizing the navy. If I make the silhouettes close enough maybe the enemy won't notice.

>>160048091
>I'm just saying man, maybe if you try it you'll have some fun
I ran through the campaign using swarms of small high-velocity aircraft bristling with guns.
That's what I find joy in: blazing speed and overwhelming firepower.
I sexually identify as a 155mm self-propelled howitzer with MRSI capability

The issue here is that building a lot of small aircraft is gonna get really tiring really quick.
>but how would you know, tho
A campaign fleet would typically number in 50 vehicles. Even at less than 500 blocks per vehicle, it'd be antifun to build.
Loading them in was bad enough.


>Fact is that it actually feels hectic even with just a 1v1
Sure. I still remember playing through one of the missions and scrambling to build defenses on an OW oil rig before the DWG bombers showed up.

Want to join in on empyrion since spengies has really shit the bed, but broker than the land train I tried to build that miserably failed in Spengies

>>160011345
How does one into tonk? It looks like your using jet engines on it, how does one place them to get a tonk to actually move about?

>>160069083
come join us on the Andromeda Rising server after playing around in singleplayer creative if you want

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>>160065609
>you get me?

Maybe. You mean something like this? [Not an actual turret, just trying it out]

>>160067015
Thanks m8

The small size is good, maybe they'll think it's further away than it really is?

>>160070387
Let me reword that a little
>but more broke than the land train I tried to build that miserably failed in Spengies
I cannot afford the game, let alone feed myself anything that isn't bulk noodles

how do you build a wall in space?

deletd my post because i remembered ctrl f
I can't say I'm shocked at what I found.

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>>160070737
i mean like putting those little protrudings in the red circles in the pink arrow locations

just a vague suggestion idk

>>160072265
Serb explodes when anyone joins, even if there's no mods or it's a new world or really any combination

>have shiny new computer that obliterates every game i get (except arma 3 fuck that poorly coded pile of nonsense) at max settings 60fps buttery smooth majesty
>boot up spengies for first time in 3 years to see if i can play it
>15 minutes later a hard reboot is required, 'played' approximately 40 seconds, mostly in the menu

nope.

fucking nope.

can a company be sued or indicted for emotional trauma?

>>160074201
>expecting spengies to improve
The claimant is clearly insane, and has been so before any contact with defendant's works or derivatives hereof.
Defendant is found not guilty, but will be gassed regardless.

Does spengies still have that "bug" where the main menu obliterates any CPU within 500 yards because they didn't bother to set a max framerate?

I'm not asking because I'm thinking about playing but because that shit is hilarious

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Here's my first tank and what it's four laser guided ATGMs did to a Tiger II.
Cannons are twin 140mm 15 block guns firing a fin stabilized armor piercing sabot round.
Top speed is 86 KPH/24 MS/53 MPH.

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wtf i hate SVs now

>>160072368
Self replicating mine fields.

>>160072368
Realistically? You release clouds of densely packed debris. Most objects traveling through space are doing so at pretty high speeds so as long as your debris is dense enough that an incoming ship or missile would have to be struck by it, that cloud effectively becomes a wall that no ship or missile can pass through without experiencing one or more lethal impacts.