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Previous Thread - >>159904572
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draenei qts
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I LOVE memes!
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Wasn't the whole point of BG's in Legion supposed to be that everyone was around the same level in terms of gear and would only get minor bonuses from their gear based on ilvl?

what happened to that?
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>>>159941927

Ever done higher lvl M+ with a blood DK?

I don't think so
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>>159942715
Yup. Went fine.
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>>159942715

>be blood
>solo the rest of helya +11 after healer dies
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>>159942715
I have. Did just fine.
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>>159942597
It's true though.

Now that gear is irrelevant on my DK I can be consistently worse every single minute of PVP rather than there being times that I may have outgeared an opponent.

Don't you just love this new system combined with the new way to get those valuable 840 combatant versatility drops?
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>>159942597
a player with 870ilvl is 7% stronger than a player with 800ilvl
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Is 855 ilvl ready for mythic+?
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>>159943059
considering +10 only drops 865 id say yes. Just dont expect to be accepted into groups that want to 3-chest everything
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>>159943059
Yeah but you're probably gonna get rejected a million times
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>>159943034
>>159943036
Maybe I'm missing something then, when I PvP on my 840ilvl rogue alt I get shat on by virtually everyone in terms of health and damage, I don't think I've seen a single player with less than 2.1mil health in a battleground.
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>>159943059

I tanked +2s just fine at 808 ilvl in a group of <840 ilvl people and got 2 chests.

You'll be fine.
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>>159943036
Thats stupid.
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>>159943284
Well rogues did get shat on recently so that's to be expected
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>pick a herb
>someone comes to get sloppy seconds
>sap him
>herb dissapear before he can pick it

i am a trickster
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>>159943284

Two things: Rogues got a harsh stamina nerf, and each trait purchased in your artifact increases your stamina so if you're far behind it's gonna show.
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>some retard brings his brazilian surv hunter friend to VoW+4
>literally half his gear is greens
>doesn't outdamage the tank on a single pull or boss for the entire dungeon
>still manage to carry his dumb ass to 2chest
>gets a fucking titanforged trinket with socket
>"now i can replace this questing trinket lol lmao haha :P"
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>>159943443
>go to get herb
>get sapped forever
>right after the sap end he instantly ends my life
>laughs at me and gets the plant right nearby and waits next to it

sometimes I regret playing on pvp servers
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>>159943620
this is why when two people are friends you inspect them both

inevitably the one leading the group has an 860 ilvl inflated by two legendaries, no enchants no gems

while his buddies are all 820 or lower shitters who got carried through regular mythics and now want to try out these keystone things
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I want a blood elf broodmare.
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>>159944039
I would rather have a tauren for breeding
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>>159943620
I had a DHT run with these DDs.
I am the first one and tank. The other paladin at least tried, but the other two were literally not even doing anything sometimes. It was a low lvl key so I didn't even bother looking at them, but considering they both had 2m health they had to have at least ilvl 850 or 860.

Only managed 2 chests by like 5 seconds.
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>>159944039
I want that H O T and T H I C C blood elf that gets posted on here all the time.
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What do you guys think of Brewmaster's? I'm ilvl 858 now and feel squishy at times but overall mitigation is fine. The issue I have is with players. I am always the first one to be blamed when anybody acts like a retard(and this is WoW, so there's no shortage of retards). For example, last night I did a VoW +2. One hunter did 50k DPS the whole run, the other two DPS kept pulling while the healer was OOM. The healer was going OOM, probably mostly because the DPS is standing in green shit the whole run. We wiped 3 times to the first boss because DPS got hit by the chain.

So what do they say when their patience finally breaks? They blame me for not doing 300k DPS.

It's pretty fucking frustrating.
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>>159944189
There's a few of those.
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>>159944294
If you get hit by that chain the game should just uninstall itself. How is it even possible to not run away from it or jump over it. I just don't understand.

Brewmaster is also pretty good in M+ imo
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>>159944306
The one with the modified body, the Death Knight, if you know which one i'm talking about.
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>>159944294
>300k dps
>as a tank
>858 ilv
they're retards

I dislike BRM nowmain ww/brm during warlords, but it's not bad perfomance wise. What talents are you using?
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>>159944495
I use leg sweep because AOE stuns are OP, RJW for easier add pickups, and currently running High Tolerance.

I started out using Blackout Combo because I thought it was more engaging, but I don't think my gear was quite ready for it. Switching to High Tolerance has smoothed things out a bit I think.
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>>159944294
As a healer I love seeing Brewmasters in m+ pugs because 99% of the time anyone who puts up with the ridicule they get for playing it that long is probably really fucking good.
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>>159944180
>pug ToV N run
>we wipe because not all the runebearers die
>pull out DPS meters
>fury warrior doing 80k dps
>whirlwind, raging blow, whirlwind off hand, melee are top 4 damage done
>point out to raid leader that we're carrying this shitter and wiping because of it
>"this is a learning group theres no need to flame we're trying to learn the fight"
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>>159944294
The worst tank.

Doesn't mean you can't possibly be successful with it, but it's not as good as any of the others.
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>few weeks ago
>this happens: https://youtu.be/qPODqZo0SNQ
>today
>We’ve recently taken action against thousands of World of Warcraft accounts that were found to be using third-party programs that automate gameplay, known as “bots.”
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>>159945019
I don't get what the ban has to do with the bideo
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What's the most fun rogue spec
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>>159945138
meme rogue spec
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>>159945138

pirate is fun when you get good RNG
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>>159945084

Bots were fucking rampant. Video was an example of someone blatantly botting for hours and nothing being done.
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>>159945138

Fury warrior.

Seriously, fucking reroll. They dumpstered and there's no plan on reverting that. Don't encourage them to Kalganize.
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Traveler here, read from Chapter 6 and stopped at Chapter 12 last night. Quite enjoying it so far.
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>>159945138
wait till 7.1.5
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>>159945327

That's the WoW book for youngsters, right? I've been hearing good things about it.

Cover art is fucking horrendous though.
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>>159945138
outlaw with ring legendary, assasin without
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How long is the falcosaur questline supposed to take?
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>>159945421
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>>159945421
Yeah, though it doesn't feel like it was written for kids, or something, if that makes sense. I just got done with the part where the ship gets invaded by pirates and they kill more than half the crew, including a 10 or so year old kid, and now Aram and Makasa, the black girl on the front, are in a little dinghy.
And yeah, the cover art's kinda bad, almost looks like one of those Disney Junior shows, but in terms of catching my imagination, it's doing it a lot. I'm also the one that's randomly posting about an idea for a South Seas-inspired expansion.
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How awesome would it be if you could buy a Mtn Dew and unlock the exclusive Dewhammer skin for the enhancement artifact?

What other product placements would you like to see in WoW?
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>>159945698
It really is kinda odd, but I guess they had to make it look so bright and colorful so younger audiences would be interested. I think it's rather interesting that in these early pictures that he looks a lot younger
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>>159945835
>What other product placements would you like to see in WoW?
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>>159945835
buffalo chicken bites for fire mages, to go with their stupid fire orbs
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>>159945883
>not hiding orbs
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>>159945835
>What other product placements would you like to see in WoW?
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tfw when it actually procs

:^)
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Why did they kill the only interesting healing spec?
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>>159946221
yeah pressing 1 button over and over was so hard
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>>159946221
because fuck you and your trees
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>do lowbie quests with a cute NE
>she invites you to join her guild
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>>159946252
I was talking about disc m8 :)
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>>159946305
because fuck you and your shields
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mmochampion said I could get the octopus mount now but the WQ isn't up???
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>>159945698

>random negro who looks ripped straight out of 2016 california in a WoW setting

diversity quotas are so cancerous
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>hearth to dala
>game crashes
nice game blizztards
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>>159946280
>froggin'

(you) expect anyone to believe that?
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>>159946591
>he wasn't invited to a guild
jealous?
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im fucking done with doing mythics

third time today that our tank leaves at the final boss after a wipe because he's angry

fuck this game
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>>159945835
it wouldn't be awesome because when companies start doing product placement they start halfassing it
I wouldn't mind as long as it wasn't just some halfassed shit and it hadn't some US only bullshit involved
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>>159946863
>Not running em with your guild
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>>159946863
In anger, you defeat only yourself.
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>>159947040
fuck guilds
it's either "you need to be ilvl 8gorillion+ and link all your achievements" or people who whisper me with a thousand spelling errors asking me to join their "fun guilds"

i'll just stick to doing pointless shitty world quests until i get so bored i'll kill myself

also playing alliance was a mistake holy shit these people are autistic as fuck
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>search for mythic keystone in lfg
>bunch of people wanting carries and carry groups wanting MoS
>search karazhan
>lfg bugs and finds me an MoS 8 group

???
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>tfw going to subway and am going to do keystones all day
comfy
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>>159947135
that really sent a bioelectric charge down my brain steam...... dang........
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Corrupted ashbringer should have been an unholy DK skin

I'm tired of seeing all this edgy green pallies shit out golden rays of light
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>>159947560
The "corrupted" version looks like ass anyway, doesn't fit a paladin at all.

No idea why they didn't just use the vanilla naxx model
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>>159947592
The issue is that raids give fuck all that anyone wants. EN was easy, ToV is at the right difficulty level but gives nothing.
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>>159947592
They're waiting for the introduction of Legendary raids to give them good loot tables
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>>159947592

post screencap of your +15 ach :^)
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>>159948029
Not an argument.
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>>159942346
>Spent 34 traits worth in a spec I thought would ever be viable
>Even with all the right items and legendaries I will still be shit
>I won't be able to refund them and put them into the only viable spec for my class

Why did I do it bros, why did I fall for the "FUN" meme.
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>>159948131

>this content is too easy
>no i haven't cleared it why does that matter

retards like you have been complaining about shit like this for like 3 expacks now
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>>159948135

>play a spec enough to have 34 traits at this point
>somehow isn't "viable"
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>>159948262
Not an argument.
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>>159948289
Yes that's how it works, if a spec is shit, even with all the right gear it will still be shit.
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>>159948445
she makes my fleshy bone turn to earthy stone
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>>159948380

Unless you're a survival hunter or something, you're literally fine.

Also you're a fucking retard for dumping THAT much time and effort into a spec you were unsure of.
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Shaman or Druid for high m+ and mythic? Both dps and healing, no tanking on the druid.
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Should I just level and play on the PTR (which is free) or buy the expansion
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>>159944767
>not elvui
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>>159948580
It is. I'm just so bored of MM and BM.
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>>159948305
Not him, but you are the true fucking disgrace to this game's community. You complain that shit's too easy, then you refuse to provide evidence that the experience is easy. You're like the people that complain there' nothing to do while never even having gone beyond lfr.
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>>159949183
Theres a few but everyone runs 5.4
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>>159949031
Not the guy you're replying to, but he's right to an extent. Mythics and WQ's give gear that's too powerful compared to raid loot.

It's just a big slot machine if the items drop and what stat / forge procs.
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>>159948541
omfg good one, that made me chuckle actually
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How are the tanks ranked in order of fun from most to least?
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>>159948541
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>>159949065
>I have given up
the post
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>>159949272
BrM > Blood DK > Paladin > Guardian > Warrior
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>>159949272
My Choice > your choice
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Yay for being an asshole.
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>>159949272
BrM=Blood DK>Venge DH>Paladin>Prot Warrior=Guardian

They're all pretty close honestly
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>>159949520
You're my favourite /wowg/ poster
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>>159949445

This is true, but Tanks specs were universally gutted this expansion and all of them are pretty shit.
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>>159949636
I'm still waiting for yours.
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>darkmoon daggermaw 75g a piece
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>>159949520
At the rate you're going you'll be harassing WoTLK pugs well into 2017.
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>[fire mage] stop cleaving its raging noob
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>tfw you get a trinket that has the same duration and CD as your big cooldown and is also off the GCD
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>>159949709
Not an argument.
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>>159949829
Not an argument
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>>159949848
Not an argument
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>>159949815
>tfw my biggest cd is 70 seconds and i'll never find a trinket like that
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>it's a molyneaux gets drunk and talks to himself on 4chan episode
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>>159949642
Dude we get it already pre-110 is filled with massive retards and faggots. Stop spamming every thread already
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>>159949752
How do I level then? I've been afk-ish till my dungeon queue pops ever since lvl 15.
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>>159949756
>he plays a meme spec that has no control over it's cleave
feels good to be a hunter
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>>159950086
>what is barrage
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>>159950000
shit get
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>>159949815
Most of mine are just passive atm, but thats because vaults being a bag of dicks and refuses to give me countermeasure
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>>159950276
she's currently worshiping my dick under the desk right now
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>>159950124
>one spell
>meanwhile you literally have no control over your cleave wahtsoever as a meme fire mage
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>>159950070
Hmm I dont know? Maybe stop trying to act smug every single dungeon and stop trying to start shit? Its fucking pre-110 dungeons who cares what happens there?
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>>159947592
>easier content

have you read the wow forums recently? I don't blame you if you don't but it's an insightful look at how the average retard thinks

as far as the casuals go mythic+ is incredibly scary, they won't touch it with a ten foot pole

i could understand where you were coming from if mythic+ was matchmade content

the reason why m+ is so easy is because the lack of matchmaking filters out so many retards, you don't have to carry retard hunters from br servers or tanks who don't have a single keybind beyond the number row

>no weekly lockout
keystones are in inherently limited supply - eventually your stone will either go depleted at which point it's worthless, or it'll go too high for you and your group and you'll wipe endlessly to +15 wrath of azshara

at which point you and your group will have to find more people to keep going - necessitating kicking someone already in the group, because its a 5 man, or just stop for the week

>No organization needed, just throw together a group in 5 minutes and stomp that dungeon.

The same applies to non mythic raids at this point, class/spec really doesn't matter too much as long as you have tank/healer/dps/dps/dps with a lust in there
how would you increase the organizational and logistical requirements of mythic+?

>Give, in most cases, better loot than raids.
>A lot easier than raids.
H EN is 865, equal to +10 m+. have you pugged +10 m+? it's not easy, at all; you almost always want a group of friends/guildies and voice communications (just like heroic raiding! how about that)

N EN is almost retardproof at this point and the same goes for m+2-6
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will someone please buy the sub for me
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>>159949713
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>Exploring Western plagueland to get the explore achievement
>See a low level draenei priest named "Tiffany" wandering about

What do I do guys?
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>>159950530
/wave and keep exploring
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>>159950530
Ignore them and go about your business
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How do I fucking get there from Stormwind? I got like 4 flight paths because I haven't done shit in my dungeon queue down time besides shitposting.
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>>159950735
gotta fly/take boats to the blasted lands my man
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>>159950735
can you read?

>use the portal on the middle level of the tower in the mage district
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>>159950070
Was just kidding, you're doing well considering you wipe your group on what I'm assuming is every third pull.

Been following you since that Strat UD run you did a week ago, keep up the good work.
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>>159950735
There should be a portal to hellfire penninsula somewhere
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>>159947592
>no weekly lockout
that's not a big problem desu, and the lockout is the 5 keys your group gets if you're doing it with friends
you can 4+1carry but you can only do that up to difficulties that are supposed to not give you marvelous gear anyway

>no organization needed
agreed, up to +10

>better loot than raids
it's very unreliable. you can get literally anything that could drop from the dungeon, meaning that you can either get that BiS trinket or that shitty ring with versatility. Even if you get good loot, you're probably just getting a low ilv (865 is low ilv if you're raiding mythic)
and both "Trinkets from dungeons are better than EN trinkets" and "raid ring/necks are worthless because it doesn't have good secondaries or my secondary matters more than my main stat" are not symptoms of a problem with M+, just a problem with the other systems

>oh but the 880 from the chest
one loot per week? lul good luck filling your slots like that

>a lot easier than raids
because you have less retards to manage. that's all. +10 wouldn't be considered easier if all your 20 players were as good as the 5 players you managed to get, and even then +10 only gives you base 865 gear, which is equal to H EN

>>159949239
literally not a problem with M+/WQ, but with the damned balance of this game/raid drops
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Am I cute
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>>159950643
>>159950712
O..oh.....so I don't be a freak and undress my toon and whisper her to suck my smelly hairy dick?
oops.....
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>>159950530
ask them if they want a ride in your mechanohog
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>>159951104
Unless your name is hairytoad, no
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>>159950530

Ask her if she needs help completing any of her quests
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>>159950989
>saving thumbnails

legendaries drop from random world mobs too btw, the easiest content in the game, but i don't see you railing against that
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>>159950989
You know mythic+ gets harder with each level. And if you fail on one, good fucking luck getting a group together that will refill your depleted stone.
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>Thrall started being a big old cuck the second he became an Ele shaman

rly makes u think
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>>159951290
they don't
the only world related thing they drop from is Emissary Chests

>>159950989
honestly it's more a problem with the way they did legendaries than with M+

>>159951350
you're a dumbass if you're spamming M+ with your stone, you should find 3 other guys so you can do carries
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>DK tries to flank me
>hex him and fly away

THE JOY OF PLAYING SHAMAN.
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>>159951468
>they don't
>the only world related thing they drop from is Emissary Chests

put on a trip so i can filter you, because now you're just saying wrong shit

they drop from regular mobs, elite mobs, world bosses, random chests, emissary caches, normal dungeons, heroic dungeons, mythic dungeons, m+ dungeons, withered army training, the m+ cache, and every tier of raiding

fuck they probably drop from minigame strongboxes too
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>>159951549
orc scum
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You DO have your stingray mount by now, right /wowg/?
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>>159951813
>they don't work in minigames but they drop from minigames

10/10 blizz
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>>159951815
more like stinggay
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>>159951815
For what purpose?
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>>159951363
no fag
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>>159951815
no...
i'll never achieve anything in this game, people are so mean and awful
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>>159951815
>getting a mount that can only be used underwater

For what purpose
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>>159951715
gonna need proof on that, when they announced the legendary system they said it would be on everything, but before the launch they took it back and I don't know anyone that got one from random mobs, much less saw any indication that it does drop from that
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>>159951893
Woah cute, what's your btag?
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>>159951920
https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSeK2yS166pp4QvMDHp2Y34I32eyxEY9CF4UrKZWHpLCPvbNBQ/viewanalytics

from reddit, 7.4k responses

inb4
>people lie
there's literally no reason to aside from lul xD memes
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>>159951951
too shy
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>>159951815
Got it in two days running back and forth along Darkmoon coast fishing in pools, will post pic
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Should I bother trying for Nightbane now or just wait a few months until the content is trivial?
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>>159952101
do you want the gear? do it now

do you want the mount? do it later
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>>159951993
>3 random, non-rare world mob
>2 rare mob
cmon do you really believe in 5 people in a poll? if you got it from them more people would be on those categories

and, even if it has a chance, if it is so small that the chance borders the impossible, even considering that people kill loads of random mobs every day, I wouldn't really mind that
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>>159951865
>being this made

>>159951872
>>159951918
I already have my ground and flying mounts (Kor'kron War Wolf/Grand Wyvern)

>>159951893
Don't give up!

>>159952101
>Two days
Took me 3-4 hours of just fishing in a single spot, though the Bloated Thresher's helped, even if they were really rare.
>Pools only last a single cast
Everyone was fighting over them so I didn't bother.
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>>159952303
>the Bloated Thresher's helped,
Didn't catch any.
>>Pools only last a single cast
A lot of my pools had 2 casts, which was quite good.
>Everyone was fighting over them so I didn't bother.
I was really surprised to find out that everyone was fishing on the boardwalk and nobody was running up the coast.
>>
>>159952303
>being this made
the pain never goes away
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>>159952524
Ah fuck I forgot you could drown on this thing.
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>people wasted their time on a shitty meme mount
>pic related lets you instantly fish up pools, water walk, fastest water movement speed that works in combat
just lmbo
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>>159952524
Yeah, I only caught like, 10 or so the entire time, which sucked. And I'd imagine a lot of people weren't running around because they didn't have any means of water walking.

>>159952561
Aww...
Still hurts.
>It's been 10 years
I miss him.

>>159952727
What are you trying to imply?
>>
>people keep declining dungeons until the cta ends

Fuck off Blizzard who thought this was a good idea.
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>>159952727
i wasted time just for the +1 on the collection
Kosumoth mount looks better imo anyway
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EU: <Neighbourhood> Argent Dawn Alliance

Halfway through HC, currently only doing fri/sunday. In dire need of ranged dps and a tank, can do with more heals too. Trying to start up weekdays too when we've got enough. Do M+ fairly often. Don't expect hardcore gear pushing. :')
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USA
S
A
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>>159952026
oh k
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>put TONS of effort to level all 11 alts as quickly as possible to 110 so I can start artifact research as soon as possible
>it's all for nothing because you can buy it for garrison resources now
>>
should i slutmog my priest or make her super pure
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>>159952026
>>159951893
Cute! Add me and let's be friends! Linstead#11878
>>
2:13 brisibelle: IVE ONLY PLAYED ONE CHAR SINCE START OF EXPAC AND NOT ONE LEGENDARY I PLAY OVER 5 HOURS PER DAY SO UP THE *** DROP RATE AND FIX AFFLI LOCKS
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>>159953156
Only up to 10, right?
>>
>want to make a character in the name of Donald Trump
>people on my btag are probably going to shit on me if I do that
>I have guildies added
blizzard pls, offline mode when?
>>
>land in Valisdall
>dead

>land in Lorlathil
>dead

>land in Meredil
>dead

why don't towns have fucking guards
>>
>>159953430
Whatever it's still a waste, I could have slacked off way more and I'm done soon with all alts
>>
ARGUS FOR 7.3
>ARGUS FOR 7.3
ARGUS FOR 7.3
>ARGUS FOR 7.3
ARGUS FOR 7.3
>ARGUS FOR 7.3
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>>159953278
Erk!
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>>159953585
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>>159950735
take the boat
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>>159953640
No one ever noticed Argus in the upper left-hand corner?
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>Blizzard said they updated Kodo models because the Tauren were relevant
>There's not a single Kodo in Highmountain
rly mkes u thnk
>>
>ToV is meant to be a continuation in difficulty from EN
huh
so that's why it's quite a bit harder than most EN bosses

>buffing +5 on all ilvs for ToV
what the fuck
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>>159953764
HOLY SHIT
>>
>some lazy asshole makes a typo and suddenly profits for the next week are cut by 10%

Why is this allowed?
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>>159953764
>>
>>159954009

do (You) think anyone has any idea what you're talking about
>>
iLvl > Stats
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>>159954183
>addonless shitter wants to undercut by 1c
>because of a brain fart he instead undercuts by several hundred gold and 1c
>rip profits
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>>159954168
>>
did he say main stats on jewelry? that's fucking great
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>>159954224
don't call it a "grave", it's the future you choose.
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>>159950306
:^)

>tfw this will be replaced with the trinket from kara
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>>159954168
>>159954269
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>>159954269
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>>159954269
>>159954407
>>159954420
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>>159954168
>>159954269
>>159954407
>>159954420
>>159954447
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>>159954420
>>
>>159954471
>t. loud minority
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>>159954573
he's right you know
>>
>been doing timewalking all week no issue
>guild is doing a timewalking premade and they invite me
>nonstop shitfest of wipes because no one knows how the instances work
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>>159954471
he's actually right though
for 99% of the people that play this game, even if you consider mythic players, it's just plugging it into AMR/Simcraft to get what you need to do

and this "crit/haste is better than int" meme needs to go
>>
>enter pug for en normal
>kill first boss without any major problems
>two people get kicked for having too little dps

glad i'm a healer h-haha
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Why are Tauren the best?
>>
>>159954715

It is literally impossible to wipe while timewalking. You are a liar.
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>>159954509
NOOOOOOOOOOOOO! MOM!
>>
>>159954879
tell that to a tank that only knows how to facepull aggro off people
>>
>furfags spamming
ugh just stop
>>
>pvp question comes up
>stream goes down
can you minigame tards stop ruining everything?
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>>159954968
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Moo!
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SO ARE THERE ANY NEW BATTLEGROUNDS??!??

GOD DAMNIT
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>>159953278
added
>>
FIRE MAGE BRACERS NERFED
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baby's first caster on suicide watch
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>>159955172
define "new"
>>
>legendaries getting buffed to 910 this tuesday
wtf
>>
>all legendaries are 910
holy shit
>>
>>159955240
WAIT WHAT?

I JUST GOT THEM

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO THEY ALREADY NERFED IT INDIRECTLY ONCE
>>
i still don't have my second, fuck this game

rip pugging for me
>>
>>159955172
Luckily not, there hasn't been a good BG since WoTLK anyway.
>>
>>159954773
>>159954731
plug and play is literally what killed this game.

I was in a fucking guild that could not down ursoc because the tanks dbm timer was off so he was literally inacapable of taunting off properly and the guild as a whole actually accepted that it was DBM's fault they couldnt clear heroic ursoc.
>>
>>159955414
Kotmogu
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>>159955186
Why would you hurt me like this, anon?
>>
>>159955364
>>159955349
So you mean to tell me im getting free stats and ilvls just for having two legendaries?
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Reminder the ilvl bump only increases the power difference between good and bad legendaries
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>nerfing Unholy legendary bracers
>aka the only thing that makes Unholy even somewhat competitive

I don't even have them yet and probably never will get them but this pisses me off. Why did I choose this garbage fucking spec for this expansion?
>>
>>159955654
based leoposter
>>
>>159955431
>heroic
cmon
just because your friends are shit/dumb doesn't mean that making ilv great again is bad

>>159955592
but it does help the problem of dropping a shit legendary that's actually shit for you compared to random gear
>>
>be 879 and apply to a group
>now will always get declined for the shitter that got lucky with 2 lego and is 899 ilvl
poopoo peepee
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>browsing group finder
>+10 Vault group looking for a healer, could do that
>get in, we start
>realise on the first miniboss that I'm still in my single target pvp build
>can't switch talents in the middle of mythic+
>uh oh
>eventually cause a wipe due to lack of aoe healing
>cause a wipe a second time because I'm a dumbass
>miss the timer by like 5 minutes
>dps was a bit on the low side for +10 but had we not wiped it would have been np
>it was a 4man guild group
>get lauded as the best healer EU for sticking with them through the whole ordeal
>even got an upgrade even though I'm 880ilvl
>they shall never know
>mfw
>>
>>159955754
>Three months into the expansion

>Still no legendary

Do you just sit in dalaran all day and then complain about 0 legendaries?
>>
Why'd you leave, war?
>>
>>159955754
>still not at least 880
>calling someone a shitter
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>>159954168
>>159954269
>>159954420
>>159954579
>>
Argus is 7.3
holy shit man
maybe that portal on the login is actually the other side of the tomb of sargeras
>>
>>159955848
>anti-ion legacy shitposter didn't pay attention that stats on jewelry will be doubled in comparison to item level
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>lego getting bonus ilvs
>got a second lego today even though it's the neck

noice
>>
>>159955958
HAHA THAT ONE LAD WHO DELETED THE NECK

I C U DRUID HAHAHA
>>
>>159955872
>Not just alt-z'ing
>>
>>159955654
>catchup will still set you behind for weeks
>not to mention leveling a alt is already setting you behind because you have to redo shitty suramar crap and all the other quest chains for storyline crap

>>159955819
>>159955754
crap like this means there is even more of a gap between people who stayed with their one toon from day 1 and those who rerolled


I dont fucking understand how the artifact and legendary system basically makes it detrimental to change spec/reroll but then they balance the game in such a way that they can completely decimate your class/spec to a point that you have to do hurdles of backtracking just to get into groups for content that is already watered down to begin with.
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>Legendary items will never all be equal. You won't be as excited to get your last choice as you would for your first choice. The team is looking at the last choices that don't feel like using at all. Fixes for these are coming in Patch 7.1.5.

So does this mean that the shitty legos are getting buffed?
>>
>>159956085
if you actually watched the q&a they literally said that like 10 minutes ago
>>
>>159955958
all that will do is my huge mastery ring be even better than the Movespeed Aura that has Crit+Haste ring for WW
is that only for legendaries?
>>
>>159955754
>do every mythic dungeon each week
>Karazhan too, with 2-4 bonus rolls used there
>do every single world quest that rewards an epic
>even do all the PvP world quests to get a higher honor level, and better PvP WQ gear
>1 legendary and 867 ilvl
>can't get into any mythic+ groups beyond level 3 (which gives shit)
Just kill me already senpai
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>tfw got the fire mage bracers and head

>Will never get the Bis Ring
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>>159955941
Makes me wonder though if 7.3 is the last patch though. We've drove back the Legion, won a more than temporary victory. What next? Back to the Horde/Alliance stuff?
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>>159943523
How is severely nerfing one class considered balance in any way shape or form?

t. 1.6kk hp rogue facing off 2.2kk hp opponents who crit for 500k.
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>your female troll will never look like this
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>>159956145
I am literally 867 and I can get into +6/7 groups no problem as a solo DPS, maybe you just applied to groups with asshole leaders.
>>
>>159956215
>legion is the "only playing on your mains expansions"
> dev team still nerfs classes into oblivion
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>South Seas inspired
>Post Cataclysm Kalimdor/Eastern Kingdoms revamp
>Rebuild infrastructure
>Reintroduce Azeroth
>Show it as the living, breathing world that it is
>Legion leveling and world quest system integration
>Higher res Worgen/Goblin models
>New playable races: Gnoll/Ogre
>New 110-120 leveling zones, mostly island based
>Dalaran possibly brought back to Lordaeron
>Larger focus on port/seaside towns
>Kezan 2/Undermine
>Nazjatar
>Kul'tiras
>Zandalar
>Old God/Naga themes
>Possible underwater zone
>New Gilneas
>New Gadgetzan similar to the concept/idea of Mean Streets of Gadgetzan (Hearthstone inspired)
>Scale inspired by Suramar City
>Tattoo and various other shops
>Three different factions based on the factions of MSoG
>3-4 Class based faction system; Like Class Halls but not as limiting, more interaction
>Choose to undermine your faction and join a new one or continue to support it
>Promotes PvP
>Establish trade routes throughout Azeroth
>Bring back uses for old materials through trade
>Even sell random grays, whites, greens, etc.
>Get a crew together and set sail on your very own ship
>Similar to Garrison shipyard but with much more focus on player interactivity and freedom
>Customizable
>Deck it out into your own personal pad, fit it with certain features for trading focus, or transform into a battle-ready cruiser and become a pirate, terrorizing the seas
>>
>>159956145
>>159956250
>game has already sunked to a point that mythic+ spamming is considered end game
>>
>>159956187
N'zoth/Azshara most likely.
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>lifebloom's final bloom doesn't count for overflowing in mythic+
>mfw The Dark Titan's Advice
>>
>>159956187
>What next?
Ph'nglui mglw'nafh N'Zoth Ny'alotha wgah'nagl fhtagn
>>
>>159956085

Yes, all those worthless "utility" legendaries will get insignificant changes labeled as buffs while literal dps increase legendaries will remain literal dps increases.

It's a great system!
>>
>>159956432
tbqh it's better for small guilds/friendless solo players that m+ is a thing. without m+ you couldn't even get close to good gear and actually progress into the game without joining a guild and committing to a second job.
>>
>>159956313
class fantasy lmao :D
>>
>>159956528
whats progression? I can pug into mythic raids with no issue
>>
>>159956215
>How is severely nerfing one class considered balance in any way shape or form?

It isn't, the guy in charge of balancing PvP is a complete moron that probably plays a freeze mage.
>>
>>159956642
after you
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Did Blizzard just say fuck it when it comes to desning new armour relying on people to mog it?
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>blizzard finally stopped giving into whining casuals

did ion save us?
>>
>>159956845
That's why we can't look like Alexstrasza.
>>
>>159956845
I honestly can't think of a single piece of gear post CATA that looks even halfway good, we got the Manaroth Tusks but that's about it.
>>
>>159956860
>wow a whooping 5 ilvls
>meanwhile the rest of the game is going into unbalanced shitfest

Why is titantforging a thing?
Why is artifact power a thing?
Why is legendaries a thing?

Last i recall i wasnt playing a korean mmo
>>
>Bonus rolling world bosses

What kind of shitters ask these questions?

Withered jim and arcano need not apply
>>
>>159957030
why is your life a thing
>>
>>159956991

>tfw forgot about those
>legionbreaker prot warr skin in 7.2

time to farm another raid..

>tfw you arent asmongold so you cant group with 39 other plateplebs and get it traded to you
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>class trials
>pet battles

casuals pls go
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>>159953585
What will it be like when the Windrunner sisters are reunited?

My guess is something like this
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Hi
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>>159957117
>>159957030

they've been talking about fixing secondary stats since 7.1
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>>159957239
is that an image for ants?
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>>159957261
post more
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So I'm leveling my Blood DK with the time-walking event and I just barely hit level 81. I haven't really tanked before so maybe I'm just bad but is it normal for my health to constantly be spiking up and down or is my healer shit?
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>>159957272
>they've been talking about fixing secondary stats since 7.1

who the fuck cares when there is obvious bis legendaries for certain specs and if you want to see the max output/progression you are literally shitfucked until you get the legendary you need
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thinking about unsubbing boys I'm hit my plateau I'm at 866 and i just cant progress any more.

>can't get into EN HC because no curve
>can't get into TOV because no curve
could spam mythic + i guess but i don't find those fun and im locked out of the suramar quest line because blizzard thought doing withered training would be something everyone enjoyed.
fucking hate farming ancient mana so i can do that shit.
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>>159957567
>another tard that didn't watch the q&a
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>brewmaster is really really really good right now
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Does getting higher score in withered training increase the chance of legos and mount quest to drop?
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>>159957629
>legendaries have proc effects that are bis combined with the stats
>"durr durr but my q&a"

Hows that turd eating treating you?
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>>159957672
who the fuck said this?
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>>159957728
how's being a retard and not knowing they're nerfing high-end and bringing up low-end legos
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>>159957757
based ion
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Which melee should I play for mythic+?
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>people think brewmasters are shit because you never see them in groups
>brewmasters are never in groups because people think they're shit

>ion calls people retards for falling for cyclical reasoning

based
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>>159957757
ion literally said that
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>>159957705
no there is no fucking point on getting it past 400 score because anything past that does not increase reward

>>159957763
nerfing high end and bring up low end so basically they are just rebranding the legendaries a
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>>159957448
>>
le autism of sylvannas fanboys... incredible on how they will always find a way to defend molag bal's future cum bucket and toilet

the merhunes faggot on MMOG is now trying to defend helya in all threads using sylvannas lore, even on b.net ones


>>159905585
>Furfaggot
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>>159957812
the decline spec cus im gonna decline you for playing melee LOL
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>>159957589

I managed to get into a EN HC xavius group when I said I didnt have curve when I had 869 ilevel and got invited, managed to kill him after 3 attempts.

I was a blood DK tank with about 3.8m unbuffed hp so that probably explained it
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>>159942346
>Get a legendary as DPS
>Has a defensive passive and your 2 least valuable secondary stats, and it's a neck/ring
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>>159957813
>>159957792
>>159957757
>>159957691
>>159957672

we have a guy who plays this game with a tablet on the dev team this shit shouldn't surprise you
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>>159957813
people still think warlocks and ele shamans and even rogues are bad
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>>159957516
I don't know how exactly blood DKs work but I believe you don't have as much damage migitation as other tanks making your hp bar more spiky but you got stronger heals to spike that bar back up
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>>159957792
>>159957826
were never getting the buffs we need are we......
were just going to be the blacksheep of this expansion. oh fuck...
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>>159957813

this tbqh
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>>159957516
Big groups hit hard, Blood has a lack of def cds. Use the shit out of Death Strike.
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BASED ION IS GOING TO SAVE WOW
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>>159958074
at least I get the feeling he really cares about his work, now
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>>159957763
so basically the legendaries that are shit right now will be bis once they get patched and then people will start crying about about legendaries being op.

Nice retarded system why cant we just go back to wow before it was required for every person to have a legendary
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>>159958096
>not wanting to live on the edge
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lmao all of the 3 people who play brewmaster are posting in wowg.
No shit people thing its shit when only you anime posting shitstains are playing it.
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>>159957589
fake achievement
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>>159958032
gnome time
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>>159958096
because I am literally a god incarnate on Cenarius and Odyn as BrM
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>>159958096
to be fair if you are talking about brewmasters sometimes you literally don't have the brews.

if you're talking about DH then yeah fuck those guys.
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>tune into Asmongold's stream first time
>tune out
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>>159957589
I unsubbed yesterday. I've had it with shit D3 rng.
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>>159958096
>Seen bear tanks that have been literal mouthbreathers and died due to stupidity
>thinking im going to waste a keystone on a brewmaster
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>>159958239
>you'll never have a gnome dk waifu whos heart of ice you'd melt with love
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>nerfing the good legendaries instead of buffing the bad ones

Blizzard is so fucking incompetent.
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>>159958197
you're an idiot lol
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>>159958330
>d3 rng
>dumbshit in guild keeps getting titanforges
>his first lego was a bis
>guild regards him as more important that other more capable dps because he was skilled "lucky" enough to get that far geared
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>>159957882
I guess il keep trying but there doesn't seem to be a lack of tanks on my server.

>>159958235
How I'd trick these people if i could.
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>>159958430
>he's new to blizzard balance
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>>159957672
but it isn't as bad as people make it to be
the problem he didn't even touch is that it feels awful to play compared to the other tanks that have rotations and buttons easy to understand

>>159958232
you might be right

>>159958430
they're only nerfing the OP as heck compared to the other legendaries, they're not nerfing everything that's good
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>>159958430
they're literally doing both did you even watch the Q&A you redditlord
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>>159958430

>they are going to nerf Instructor's Fourth Lesson despite how good it makes the DK's playstyle feel
>despite how fucking bad Unholy is right now

WTF I hate Ion now
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>>159958430
then people are gonna be complained about the "bad" ones being too good and this cycle will just continue
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>>159958575
Ya it really pisses me off that they're nerfing those
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>>159958546
>they're only nerfing the OP as heck compared to the other legendaries, they're not nerfing everything that's good

You're contradicting yourself, anon.
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>>159958430
only nerfing the broken ones like the unholy bracers, mage wrists, probably ret cape and rogue ring

the dog shit ones are being fixed in 7.1.5
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>>159958535
Try googling "fake achievement addon"

No need to suck my dick for this tip
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>>159958546
The problem is tanking takes no fucking thought and literally anyone can tank in current day wow. Which correlates with how brewmaster is bad because it requires actual thinking to play
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I'm glad they finally answered the question about what happened to the goblin/worgen model update.
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>>159958627
>not >WoD_arms.jpeg
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>>159958683
I fail to see how Unholy bracers are broken. Unholy is shit even with the bracers.
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>>159958758
>muh character model updates

Out of all the things to complain about this has to be the dumbest one.
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>>159958723
Well if you insist it isn't necessary anon guess I'll just be on my way.
Cheers for the info friend, I'l wipe some HC groups just for you.
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>>159958627
>when your balance team cant even play their own game properly
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>>159958814
any legendary that increases your dps by that much is broken, regardless of how shit your class is

hope for a buff instead of relying on a meme legendary
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The only annoying thing about brewmasters I've noticed as a healer is the amount of damage they take after combat. Makes it really annoying when they charge off just as the last mobs are dying and proceed to lose half of their hp bar
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>>159958912
Why can't it be both? I don't have the Unholy bracers but it sure seems like it probably makes the spec a lot more fun to play and now they're going to nerf it.
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>>159958912
or maybe just stop making the game fucking reliant on legendaries and remove them as a whole
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>>159958743
Barely, the only time we have to think is when we take high levels of damage. Otherwise I can sit there while my stagger, dodge and gift of the ox does all the heavy lifting and a druid just rolls hots on me. They're good on prog bad on farm, and pugs usually constitute that level of overgearing where you're just a nuisance because you need a constant feed of low hps rather than being able to self sustain like a warrior on negligible difficulty trash mobs.
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>>159958931
Stagger decays quickly out of combat now.
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>>159945327
Tauren /ss/ is what made Anduin into Manduin I presume.
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>>159957998
>ele shamans
they are though, in pvp. both arena and battlegrounds
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>>159959006
>stop making the game fucking reliant on legendaries

if you're not in a top 10 world first guild nobody will give a shit if you don't have any legendaries, if someone does higher DPS then you because they have a DPS legendary there's literally no way to go about it, it'd be the same as if they got a lucky trinket/weapon drop in a previous expansion

>>159958972
because actual useless specs like elemental need fixing first, pray for a 7.2 buff :^)
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>Just read what Ion said about brewmasters
so let me get this straight they leave brewmaster in a weak shit state for months, fuck up the leveling of brewmaster mitigation untill 7.1 so even people leveling up think brewmaster is shit. Balanced everything around artifact traits and now tell people. That should trust brewmasters because they totes fixed all their issues.
FUCKING REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
this fuck in unbelievable, is fully aware that brewmasters aren't played are avoided because of their performance and skill cap that does nothing to give them an advantage over other tanks and tells people just to ignore it?
IN A GAME WHERE PEOPLE WONT TAKE PEOPLE WITHOUT CURVE? IS HE DEVELOPING THE GAME I AM PLAYING? WHO JUST ACKNOWLEDGES ISSUES AND THEN TELLS THE PLAYER BASE TO SORT IT OUT WHAT THE FLYING FUCK FUCK YOU ION FUCK YOU.
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>>159959256
>" it'd be the same as if they got a lucky trinket/weapon drop in a previous expansion"

No it wouldnt because you could at the very least farm for said drop because it was on a set loot table.
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So is melee worth playing, or should I just go with something ranged? I have a lock and hunter, but hunter is boring and I hear lock is so-so.
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>>159958653
you do realize that there are legendaries that are good without being massive, right?

>>159958743
then fuck the others too
don't fucking steal my guard and give it to prot warrior, then give me a shitty charges system
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>>159959054
what happened to his ears?
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>>159959256
>if someone does higher DPS then you because they have a DPS legendary there's literally no way to go about

Other than testing the items before implementing them on live servers, you're right.
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>>159959348
>No it wouldnt because you could at the very least farm for said drop because it was on a set loot table.

yeah, legendaries drop from literally everything so they're even easier to get
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>>159959339
stupid frogposter, it isn't ion's fault that retards like you who can't be satisfied play his game
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>doing WQs on my rogue
>prot warrior charges and starts attacking me in town
>guards swarm him
>lol Vareesa legs and talented feign
>kite and emote taunt him around until a group of alliance showed up and killed him
Was a fun use of 10-15 minutes
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>>159959256
>because actual useless specs like elemental need fixing first, pray for a 7.2 buff :^)

Fuck off you stupid nigger Unholy is every bit as bad as Elemental.
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>>159959476
why bother having 8 legendaries if they all feel exactly the same, with how long the games out if you don't have at least 3 legendaries you simply aren't doing enough legendary dropping content
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>>159959507
>easier to get
>low percentage drop from "everything"
>trinket has a set drop from a set boss and you can just focus farm said boss until your item drops and you can even bring friends along to increase the chances of seeing the drop you want actually drop with the new loot trading system

stop talking ass you fuck
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>>159959614
spamming mythic+ sure is fucking fun amirite?
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>>159959659
>low percentage drop from everything that you can constantly farm is worse then a item that you have one chance to get weekly and then compete to roll with other people

uh

>>159959571
considered getting good?
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I've been out for a while, are brewmasters still the worst tanks? Also, what's the best tank class/spec atm?
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>>159959614
I think the whole legendary system is flawed, everything from the stats to how they're obtained. A legendary item is something that should surpass everything else in that slot, no discussion.

It's like seeing both thunderfury bindings drop in one night and nobody wanting to take them.
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>>159959539
1/10
to weak after stupid frog poster, grammar makes it to hard to follow consider only using shit grammar after catching someone.
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>>159959798
hmm 1% drop vs 15 %drop from a boss that can be inflated by help with friends

>defending mythic+ endgame

Gee i sure do love minigames the mmo
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>>159959763
>daily world chest
>dungeons
>raids
>world rares
>world treasure chests
>pvp chests
>weekly m+ chest

want them to just give them to you for just walking about? stop being a whining shitter
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>>159959659
>bosses 1 week lockout
>legendary has no lockout

i've gotten 4 legendaries and still no fucking heroic ursoc trinket in the whole time EN has been out
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Is masterfrost DK still viable? All guides recommend to stack strenght and haste

I played a lot of it in cata:
basically stacking mastery for frost dmg bonus and deal fast frost strikes and howling blasts

will my dps be good enoug bros?
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>>159959886
yeah it's shit but it's not going anywhere so get used to it, in a few months most people will have enough legendaries to not care anymore with bad luck protection going higher all the time, you're always gonna be annoyed that someone has a better item then you no matter what that's part of progressive gearing and mmos
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>>159959953
cant_stop_wont_stop.ogg
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>>159960012
>got 3 legendaries and 2 880 bloodthirsty instincts
>2 of my legendaries are 1st and 2nd best for my spec

DEVILISH
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>>159959798
Yeah you're right it's a skill issue forget the fact that Elemental is ahead of Unholy at every percentile.
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any in wowg that can teach me how to play brewmaster?
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>>159960229
>meme percentile
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>>159959961
>i dont like the content so it doesnt count

mythic+ being good content is irrelevant, fact is everyone besides you would take the repeatable chance over the lockout
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>>159959970
>world treasure chest
Limited amount
>dungeons
Yes lets defend the mythic+ is endgame meme
>raids
weekly lockout
>world rares
one and done just like treasures
>pvp chests
pvp is broken and unenjoyable and balance team doesnt give a shit about it
>weekly m+ chest
yeh cause if i didnt get it on my first 100+ tries in mythic+ i sure am going to get it from a weekly chest

I dont fucking want a game bloody focused on legendaries and i dont want a game forcing me to rerun irrelevant content because i need to get said legendaries to drop.

This game is bloated with artificial content
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>>159960361
>"thanks blizzard for giving me mythic+ so i can ignore the fact of how little content this game actually has"
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>>159960371
>raids, mythic+ and world content is bloated irrelevant content

sounds like you should just be playing a different game
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They really fucked the biweekly archeology thing. Its either "DO 25 FUCKING DIGSITES" level, or "30 mins top" level.
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>>159960049
please respond
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>did arcway keystone
>get 870 bloodthirsty instinct from lfr
>got two subway sandwiches for the price of one
>trump team admitting theres no wall
good day
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>>159960313
dont purify anything below 30% its a waste of a brew, use ironskin whenever you feel like damage is inc with a purify charge banked to purify the ironskin staggered damage and the rest of your shit is passive
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>people getting BiS leggos
>still sitting on fucking Cinidaria
REEEEEEEEEE
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>>159960506
>trump team admitting theres no wall
wut
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>>159960457
this is about legendaries not mythic+, are you retarded or something? if you want to whine about mythic+ dont make some tangential link to another conversation.
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Do you still need to complete A Falling Star to complete your garrison 2.0 quest line??
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>>159960584
>Cinidaria is bad meme

gives you shit loads of DPS on opener burst and it works great with adds small and big especially on cenarius and xavius
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>>159960461
>say content is once a week
>automatically assumes i dont consider it content


I only fucking said mythic+ isnt content because its literal fucking minigames
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>>159960632
newt m8
im not gonna discuss politics on wowg again tho
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>>159960461
Having multiple difficulty levels of the same content is hardly content.

>here's a handful of 5man dungeons
>ok cleared, we're getting more instances now, right?
>nah, just go back and run the same shitty instances on 15 different difficulty levels

OH BOY HOW EXCITING
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blizz pls let me skip arthas' 3 minutes of roleplay if I'm beating on his ass with ashbringer during it
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>>159960723
thats what wow is, discrete activities with shitty lore trying to make into a cohesive whole. how new?
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>>159960841
whats worse is the time and effort they put into the mythic+ system could have have been put into more instances and raids
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>get my favorite mounts in the entire game
>nothing to do
just
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So uhh... random question, has anyone like crashed on a loading screen to load in with your spec's bars all messed up? Sort of want to see if this is a common bug.

I had it happen and my feral spec turned into my bear, my bear my resto annnd my feral was my balance
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>>159960841
the difficulty creates gameplay, the challenge is the content not the dungeon itself. is this your first game? are you one of those retards who measures expansions by that shitty excel of how many raids dungeons were released per expansion.
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>>159960841
>most dungeons since wrath with more releasing
>going to have at least 5 raids minimum

we've got more content end game then we've ever had before, you expect 20 dungeons per expansion or something?
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>>159961079
sometimes if i crash it'll do shit like lock my actino bars and make it see through
pisses me off
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Why the fuck isn't it possible to trade ALL loot dropped in M+???
Missed out on 870 Naraxas trinket with socket because shammy couldn't give it to me.

Also, rate my UI
Gotta find a way to remove those ugly boss frames
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>>159961027
did you max out your artifact weapon traits yet? didn't think so.....
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>>159961007
>time and effort
It's literally just +damage and +health to everything. It took them no effort to design this.
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>>159960841
the content is never the instance you moron, its like talking to a 5 year old.
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>>159961209
>I haven't played anything above +3
now we know chum
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>>159961313
Stop being retarded.
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>>159961182
Maxing them does not reward me anything so no, I have not maxed the grind.
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Returning player here

What's the easiest ways to farm enough gold to buy tokens for game time these days?
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Where is the quest with the dude that bangs two Tauren? I've finished Highmountain but I didn't run into it.

It's kind of annoying that the loremaster achievement for each zone only tracks the main storylines, I liked it better when I just showed the total number of quests in a zone so you knew when you were really done.
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>>159961137
>>159960841
>wrath only had up to heroic
>wrath had a bunch of raids
>wrath didnt have a artifact or legendary system
>wrath had most subs
>lets not go with the formula that worked and instead do something totally new

>>>159961116
>difficulty = gameplay
>yeah look this affix doesnt make it harder all you gotta do is hit them for a longer and theyll eventually die
Not to mention that titanforging means spamming faster mythic+ means more likely to get gear you want
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>>159961397
>Maxing them does not reward me anything so no

last trait is 5% damage increase by level though
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>>159961154
Ah. until yesterday when my shit bugged, all I had to deal with is loading screens being dumb and making me redo my macros, r i p
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>>159961038
T U S K E D
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>>159960841
so by your definition content is done on the first day or perhaps you need to re-evaluate your idea of what the actual content is. ie playing with your friends through something challenging, rather than playing neltharions lair.
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>>159961397
>I'm a retard
ok anon
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>>159961481
It's 5% for the first level in that trait, then .5% for every level after.
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>>159961038
D R A E N E I D
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>>159961553
but being able to do them on the first day shows how shitty they are in terms of content
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>mfw I got "The First Satyr's Spaulder's" last night
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>>159961641
gz
you'll go back to complaining about '>tfw no legendaries' in three days
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try pugging heroic odyn, yes/no?
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>>159961740
I'm sure it's fine
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>>159961740
prepare your anus
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>>159961740
ye, it's pretty straight forward but people are incredibly retarded
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>>159961689
I have my 2 BiS ones already though.
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>>159961740
you can pug odyn and guarm but no way to down H Helya in any pug
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>>159961786
what do you think is the optimal raid size for odyn lad

less tornados on 10, so i guess thats the best?

>>159961879
yeah i know heroic helya is a bitch
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>>159961639
only if you consider seeing the dungeon to be the only content dungeons can afford you. which evidently the playerbase does not agree with because thats a silly sentiment
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DK main, I want an alt.

Deciding between WW, Hunter or rogue.

Any advice
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>>159961163
It's designed like that to protect people from bullies demanding their drop.
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>>159958814
>goes from bottom 3 dps to upper middle pack with a single item and a talent change
>not broken
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>>159962228
So what? They're the only thing that makes us competitively and I don't trust Blizzard to actually buff us.
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>>159962094
Windwalker offers unparalelled mobility, and great damage. Also decent self-sustain

Hunters, except for survival, are very boring and doing very decent damage. Survival is the most fun spec I've ever played in my 12 years of playing this game.

Rogues I have no opinion about, I left my own in WoD.
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>>159961553
I think WoTLK's formula worked the best, you had normal dungeons that everyone cleared from the start, you had heroic verions where you could actually wipe if you were really undergeared or didn't know the encounters and you had the 3 heroics that got released right before ICC opened and those dropped great pre-raid gear for people trying to get their foot into raiding or just looking for a solid upgrade and were harder than other heroics.

Raids in my opinion shouldn't be puggable, LFR and 'normal' raids shouldn't exist
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>>159961163
I like it a lot

mind telling me what addons you use for your castbar and unit frames?
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>Boost Warrior from 60 with Herb / Alch
>Get to class Hall

Jesus fucking christ there is literally only one likeable thing involving this piece of shit and that's leaving the damned place via jumping.

Also Fury leveling was a mistake.
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>>159962339
Thanks anon, I'll check survival out.

Hunters do seem a little boring, I like WW's abilities a lot.
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>>159962525
Gnosis castbar and Pitbull4 unit frames
both with kgPanels to create the border
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>>159962607
I should mention that the spec has a shit ton of buttons (probably cataclysm-tier amount of buttons) and that some hunters are butthurt because its melee. But it has great potential if Blizzard works on it a bit more.
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>>159962812
Is WW hard to play at all?
and is the downtime that bad?
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>>159962094
WW is fun as fuck. The damage is nice, rotation is very fluid and feels good and natural after little time playing it. One of the best for M+ because AoE stun and AoE burst
plus you get to be a panda girl or a troll.
any other race choice and you likely fucked it up


didn't play the others in Legion yet. Currently only Assassination and Subtlety are doing better in ST than WW in these 3 specs, but from what I gather they're much weaker in AoE
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>>159962696
thanks
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>>159963052
Only a serenity build has downtime, and I hate it.
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>>159962564
>he chose Fury warrior of all things
ahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha
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>>159963210
Do you have to use the serenity build?

>>159963085
Thanks anon
do you see a lot of downtime and is the rotation hard?
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Why are Timewalking dungeons so undertuned at 110 compared to 100?
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Currently leveling a destruction lock, but contemplating a shadow priest. Currently just for 5mans and LFR.

Stick to lock, or start from scratch with a priest?
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>>159963052
If you're using Power Strikes and WDP, no.
the TL;DR of the spec is Keep hard hitters on CD.
SotW (artifact skill) > FoF > RSK > WDP
the downtime of WW is actually hitting low hit stuff, like BoK, or using your Chi Wave to weave Boks.
the hardest part of it is knowing how many extra BoKs you can weave inside your rotation so you don't end up with extra chi after using your hard hitters

Serenity is kinda hard to min-max and I would not recommend it till Mythic. it also doesn't feel as good as the other build

>>159963420
Artifact. It's like everyone had a super legendary.
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Are moonkins ruined?

You used to see them all the time and now I've hardly seen one
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>>159963052
It's not hard or easy, its just there. The downtime most people are talking about is the Serenity, one minute and 30 seconds.
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the 850-860 struggle is real

>no invs to +5 or higher
>no one ever runs +2 for some reason
>normal mythic lock outs

FUCK me
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how is destro performing right now
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Finding diaper erp is impossible
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>>159963457
locks are GOAT now but you should switch to demo
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>>159963360
no, it's kind of a preference but there's certainly some situations where you might prefer it.

I, myself, have the SEM legendary so I always use WDP.
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>>159963853
lesbian porn is so 10/10, id do gay porn if it felt like lesbian porn
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>>159948668
Pls respond
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>>159945698
wtf? What is Shaqkwanza doing on the cover? I am sick of this forced diversity.

Oh wait. (((Greg Weisman)))
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Fuck why is tanking so boring.... wish druids had a good AOE dps spec
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>15k ap to get one of four traits to close the gap to something interesting

getting burnt out..
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how the fuck do you choose what server to roll on?
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>>159964238
>750k ap to get 3%extra dodge
>need 2 more after that before I can get the 5% damage buff

if only you knew how bad it was
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What did he mean by this????
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>>159952951
best guild
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>>159964314
>Find which server cluster is closest to you
>Pick the realm type you want
>Pick the most populated one you can
>Check realmpop.com/ to make sure its not one sided against the faction you want
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>>159964473
>entitled tank #21451
What did he mean by this?
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you're ready for new gadgetzan, aren't you, /wowg/?
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BREWMASTER BUFFS WHEN?
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>>159964692
Y E S
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>>159964692
hearthstone lore isn't canon, it's still the same old gadgetzan
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>>159965046


>tanaris still the old shithole from cata
>Zul'farrak suddenly receives feat achiev
>hearthstone xpac references south seas and kul tiras

yeah, it pretty much decided where we go after we buttrape sargeras
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>>159965156
I am currently trying to decide between bdk (holy gorefiend's grasp), brm or prot pally (divine shield + taunt seems fun).

Which is the most fun?
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>>159965156
ok faggot here's a situation for you

>M+
>pull a pack of 5
>drop below 50% hp
>no time for healer to help
>your only actual defensive that does any damage reduction defensive is on a 7 MINUTE COOLDOWN
>???
>die
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>>159959953
whoa
cute fem pander :o
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>>159960710
>good dps on opener
>garbo dps during the other 95% of the fight
>even comparable to run through boots, ring or even valeera belt
No.
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>>159965367
>pull a pack of 5
>fall below 50% hp
instantly? never happened to me as a BrM. You using ISB?
also use your stun
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>>159965046
>hearthstone lore isn't canon
I beg to differ, faggot
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>xavius lfr has dps call to arms

time to afk my way to dosh
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>>159965156
So you're telling me the class is fine, it's just to hard to play and has a horrible reputation meaning that at high level you don't get to play it anyway. wew yeah that sounds fine can't argue with blizzard.

can you atleast tell me a tank class that is good and doesn't have any
>Community missconception.
i mean what the fuck even is that?
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>>159965367
Reminds me of how many mitigations I have as pally plus an 8 second fuck you button. Feels good, man.
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>>159965546
At high end raiding I hever never ever seen a brewmaster.
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>>159965507
>no stun
>no silence
>no fort brew

Yeah you're totally fucked. Every other tank has shit for this situation but monks. Monks are absolute garbage.
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>>159965367
what are the water coolers supposed to be
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>>159965546
It means the community is thinking the wrong things, which it apparently is.
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>>159965654
if this is a reference to vanilla wow then boomkin druids just sat there and /dance until they needed to innervate the healers

that's my guess
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>>159965507
>tfw if you don't pick leg sweep you die
hmmmmmmm
really makes you think

>>159965654
mages is my guess
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i'm in a normal en with pugs for 2.5 hours now
i've seen about 50 people come and go now
not a single drop for me so far
please send humanitarian aid
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>>159965654
Shamans, I think.
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>not playing a bear to tank/wq
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>>159965712
Isn't it blizzards fault that brewmasters are so poorly received in the first place though?
And a failure to adress the concerns of players during the beta with a poor launch into legion that solidified fears festering during the beta?
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>>159965909
Honestly if they brought Guard back all would be well.
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>>159965812
Why are you still there, you fucking retard. Find a guild, pretend you're a grill, get a free raiding spot, profit.
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>>159965901
cute tauren would tenderize her meat.
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>>159965996
i don't like socializing...
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>whitemane can't be your combat ally
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>>159965546
most high end BrMs actually quit BrM at launch or eve before so...
you need to convince your guild
which is bad, but doesn't mean the spec itself is bad

Guardian/Prots are good specs that people rely on

>>159965634
>no stun
Monks have a 5 second aoe stun. You're stupid if you're talenting anything else in that tier.
>no silence
? You mean interrupt? no tank has silence, aside maybe Blood, dunno.
And if you're needing fort brew for a pack of 5, something is wrong with you or your talent build

literally never happened to me, I'm serious

>>159965737
If you don't pick legsweep, you're dumb. Why the fuck wouldn't you pick that?
and even if you don't stun, you're not dying instantly if you have ISB up. no way in hell you got bursted by over 150% of your health if you're not fucking up
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>>159952951
>In dire need of ranged dps and two tank
ftfy
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>>159965286
WHAT IF
>Pirates steal our artifacts away
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>>159966023
>he thinks brewmasters are fine because he tanks heroics

lmao kys
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>prot pally artifact ability
>literally just one of the spells with mitigation added
Smh, desu, famiglia.
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>>159966086
>>no stun
>Monks have a 5 second aoe stun. You're stupid if you're talenting anything else in that

What if it's on CD?

>And if you're needing fort brew for a pack of 5, something is wrong with you or your talent build
>literally never happened to me, I'm serious

>flex raiders
>thinking their opinion matters
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>>159966059
isn't it funny
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should i wait until the catch up patch to resub?
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>>159965654
Mana regen classes, fuck if I remember which was which.
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>>159966057
Well then stay in your pugs with the rest of the fucktards, then. This isn't a singleplayer game, champ. You need to be able to at least be able to talk to people and work as a team with them.
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>>159965286
>rogues get a pirate spec
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blacksmith/enchanting - they a good combo for a warrior?
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when will the "new mobile leather class" meme end?
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>>159965986
they can't if guard existed they'd of had a long battle over brewmasters with the community over nothing. guard is warrior only now, blizzard fucked brewmasters.
The second they told the community they were playing it wrong during the beta is the second they announced they are happy if brewmasters are the least played tanks, they were happy with their design and they weren't interested in feedback. combine that with logs and now there's a dark cloud hanging over brewmaster that wont vanish because the brewmaster player base doesn't exist anymore and no one wants to waste AP on a spec that is considered trash. to be a brewmaster you have to really INVEST into the spec, blizzard is asking people to farm AP for a spec that most groups don't want, i really don't know why they did things the way they did.
why was ion so stubborn about his vision for the class I'll never know.
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>>159966419
>posting this old and stale meme
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>>159966301
but how do i find a decent guild
i just want people who know what they're doing while i stand at the side and heal people without saying anything
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>>159966405
Never. Demon Huntards were a mistake. Illidan was a fucking mistake. Metzen and his bullshit was a mistake.
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>>159966236
>>What if it's on CD?
what the fuck kind of argument is this?
this applies to almost any tank
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>be brewmaster
>pull more than 1 mob
>die

>be any other tank
>pull everything up to and including the boss in maw of Souls
>solo tank without a healer

And you retards will argue brewmaster is fine.
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>>159966405
Literally never. We've still got a number of mobile leather classes yet to add like Dark Ranger, Shadow Hunter, Warden, etc.
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>>159966505
Name, server? During my guild's raids, you can just heal or do whatever without ever talking. You just need to listen to them on TS and have DBM. That's it.
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>>159966637
we also still need killer assassin, deathstalker, blademaster and coldsteel the hedgehog
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>>159966579
My argument is that BrM doesn't have as many cds as other tanks.

How stupid are you?
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>>159966598
>solo half the dungeon
Blood DKs were OP, and they seem to be remaining OP and broken. Its ridiculous, the shit they can do and grt away with.
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>>159966730
>coldsteel the hedgehog
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>>159966086
>Monks have a 5 second aoe stun. You're stupid if you're talenting anything else in that tier.

>don't take a specific talent
>die
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>>159966734
Fuck you, shitlord. What if the person is legit and wants help? If not, oh well. If yes, why shouldn't I help them?
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>>159966807
>Druid does this
Survives
>Warrior does this
Survives
>DH does this
Dies
>Monk tries to get into m+
declined
>DK tries to
DK is still stuck walking towards the mobs for 10 minutes since his ass is fat.
>Paladin tries
Does well until his cds run out
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>>159966895
Shows how fragile brewmaster monks are.
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>>159965909
Yes, it is. They fucked up hard on making the spec so different from what we were used to (and so different from any other tank, ever).
they only addressed us like 3 weeks before launch, and gave us only Expel Harm so we didn't need to jump around the boss catching healing orbs.

>>159965986
I'd be happy if they at least turned the "Purifying Brew heals you for % of what you purified" into baseline.

>>159966236
>what if it's on cd
What are you even doing that requires you to pull 5 mobs without spending the cd in between pulls?
almost never happened to me, but it's not like you NEED the stun

12/13M in WoD because guild decided to quit, 4/7M right now, playing ww only pretty much though.

>>159966406
The "community is playing wrong thing" was obvious though. People were trying to just keep ISB up and stay topped off 24/7 disregarding the fact that back then the chance of getting healing orbs was massively increased when you were at lower levels of health.

and ye, they fucked it up, then came back too late to actually change anything

>>159966598
You do realize that with a golden trait your cd (that you're popping there) gives you makes you pretty much immune to melee attacks?
Solo healing through that probably not since our healing requires you to be lower in hp
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>>159966376

>its called outlaw
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>>159966741
You can also tank a bunch of shit while not going all out with the CDs as other tanks. If you have a large choice, that is.
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>>159963810
Does demo perform in Mythic(+)? I was told it doesn't and destruction is the way to go.
>>
What is it about fire mages, do they scale weirdly or what? Half I see pull very mediocre dps (~855 mages pulling ~140k on ToV Odyn) while 870+ ones pull ridiculous numbers. I've got 3 fire mages in my casual babby guild and all struggle with dps.

Pic related, I'm on top as 864 outlaw followed by 861 assa. What kind of numbers should the raid be pulling on Normal?
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>>159966992
I'm aware, was pointing out it was added
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>>159966301

>stupid EUfag who steals the gbank and then leaves
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>>159967138
If they don't have crit in every slot ilvl means nothing.
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>>159966664
tioko on dun morogh/norgannon
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>>159966971
>pop cd
>live for 2 seconds longer
>then die

great argument
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>>159966086
>you need to convince your guild
>which is bad, but doesn't mean the spec itself is bad

But it does mean its bad, it means the spec has a bad reputation, and as much as people would like to blame the community you'd be kidding yourself if you were to imply it was an unwarranted one. Specs don't just get blacklisted over night, blizzard made some poor design decisions and gave awful feed back to players concerned about the classes direction.

The fact playing a brewmaster can hinder your gameplay and enjoyment of the game is in itself bad.
What other tanks have this problem besides DH post nerf?

Also having a must have talent pic, is something blizzard admitted they didn't like thank god hopefully they make rjw baseline and change the talents so it isn't pick leg sweep or die.
I like using ox statue but can't because the game it pretty much stun trash groups or die.
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>>159966958
I've just seen Blood DKs do the craziest shit imaginable, dude. Like 4 people are wailing on this nigga, popping all CDs while he sits there like fucking Kirito and /laughs.
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>>159967123
it doesn't but mythic+ is meme content and you shouldn't care
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>>159967138
derr
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>>159967236
>BiS trinkets and gear come from M+
>meme

laugh at this poor fool with his shit itemized gear from raids
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How do I get Marks of Honor? Just spam BGs?
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>>159967161
Don't you have specific withdrawal quotas per rank just for that?
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>>159967231
DKs are OK mitigation wise as long they don't:
1. get one-shot
2. get wailed and shat on by fucking dots
3. get wailed by shit that hits fast and hard
4. have to haul ass somewhere
5. grip doesn't work

Otherwise they're badDH. And DH is kinda shite.
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>>159967328
And win. The worse part, imo. Before you could lose, and still get Honor. Now, you just suck dicks and lose.
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How to fix BrM.

>Separate the charges from Purifying and Iron-skin brew.

Done.
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>>159967514
bring back guard and the threat barrel. Done.
>>
Umm, why isn't <This Game is SO Hard> in the OP????
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>>159967138
mediocre single target until they have 75% crit and start nuking 24/7
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>watching Fragnance on Twitch
>they're boosting other people's 7-10 keys
>doing maw of souls level 10
>mfw they pull the 3 big packs before 1st boss together with the boss and just aoe them all down
>mfw Fragnance does 8mil DPS
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>>159967562
>why isn't <This meme is SO reddit> in the OP

You tell me, doc.
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>>159967562
bear's guild invites every panda he finds, its not wowg
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>>159967679
let's see your +15 achievement
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>>159967679
You go and pull 3 packs + boss on mythic level 10
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>>159967381
>the more mobile and faster classes starts pulling for you because youre a dk

STOP IT
I CAN PICK IT UP FINE BY MYSELF
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>>159967742
let them tank it then.
>>
869 memehunter, what m+ should i grind the most?
>>
Frost DK any good yet?
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>>159967742
>Stay comfy in my D&D
>Huntard and roguetard pull with tricks and misdi
>All I do is grip the casters
Best feeling senpai, so comfy in my wheelchair.
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>>159967843
>her
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If I wanted to focus on dps, but have a good tank when I needed to. Should I go ret or dh?
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>>159967648
No one in this guild goes to reddit, hello????
>>159967723
Name 3?!?!?!?!?
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>4min loading time to log in
>2 min dalaran load
>2 min pit of saron load time
What the fuck is going on?
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>>159967609
Got link?
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>>159967381
>>159967742
w-we will s-surely get more mobiltiy in 7.1.5, r-right b-bloodbros
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>UH DK is bottom of the pack DPS with the legendary that boosts their DPS by 35%
>nerf the legendary and don't buff the class
>mfw

Who else laughing at the fotm shitters to got sucked into the pre-legion sim numbers
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>>159967609
>mfw frangance is still a greedy fag
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>>159968012
>All tanks have movespeed increase abilities
>druid get +15% passive with a talent
>cate drood gets 45% passive while cate
>DKs aren't allowed to stroll around with no burst movespeed in their mounts at like 30-40%
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>This Tuesday all legendary items will have their item level increased by 15, so they will all be item level 910.
Great, the rich people with 2 legendaries get richer
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>>159967976
can't link twitch but his channel is /fragnance
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>>159968043
I switched back to frost because it was what i was used to in wow. Didnt take to long to have the same amount of traits in my frostymournes.
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>>159967976
theyre doing a mos 10 now, watch how they pull before the 1st boss

it's hella freakin epic
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Why do people strafe while attacking?
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>>159968323
stop shilling you're shitty stream faggot
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>neck is a 20 ilvl upgrade
>worse than my current neck because lmao secondaries
nice memes ion
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>>159968012
>>159967742
>the other tanks taunts the boss off you because they have better mobility
>priest doesnt drop feather for you
>shaman doesnt drop wind rush for you
>monk doesnt use tiger lust on you

ITS NOT FAIR
WHY DO THE TANKCHADS GET TO BE FAST
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>>159968369
Higher APM, idiot
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>>159968317
>mfw UH is bottom 3 dps and frost is actually good in raids and top dps in m+
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How about we give melee more snares/stuns/interrupts/leaps?

I sure do like dying in 3 sec the moment I get deathgriped/monk stunned.
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>>159968467
But that doesn't even do anything.
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>>159968369
required for some cleave classes because they need to aim their cleave
>>
Man the Odyn fight really makes me miss the old totemic projection.
>>
>>159966741
Granted. I still don't get why they kept Zen Meditation around because it just wastes a cooldown slot. You don't ever use it outside of very specific situations, and that cooldown is ridiculous

>>159966895
you don't NEED it for tanking 5 mobs, dumbass
I'm saying that you could stun if you get instagibed so fast, but literally never happened to me, and that with ISB up (it should be), mobs would need to burst you for over 150% of your fucking health. That's pretty much impossible if you're not vastly undergeared or you fucked up hard.

>>159967229
I'm not saying that thinking the spec is shit is unwarranted. I'm saying that it was shit before launch, and pretty much all the way to EN. So the old BrMs got the fuck out, new ones didn't stay, and now it's mid expansion in a expansion that's incredibly hard to catchup.
yes, fuck playing brm if you're here for enjoyment, and not because WW is your main
They don't like having a must pick, but several specs still have lots of them. And you need to consider what you're doing. Why would the statue be better in dungeon than Leg Sweep, the place where AoE stuns are at its best?
Just pull with ISB up (I'm assuming you're not placing your statue down and pulling half the dungeon with it), and you're not going to die. Mobs don't hit you for 150% of your health in an instant.

>>159968369
because they're somehow more autistic than a guy trying to defend BrM in fucking wowg
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>>159968551
It prepares you for doing higher APM actions in the future.

Duh
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>>159968460
>tfw running away with the spear on odyn phase 3
>tfw you only get 5 yards before it explodes
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>>159966598
I think the biggest problem with brew is that they have no extra armor modifier.

Bears get 400% extra armor since they wear leather.

Brew doesn't. Most brews hover around 20-25% armor reduction while other tanks are passing 60%.
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>>159964692
>tfw I'm the only one who rolled a Goblin here anyway

Y'all will stick out like a sore thumb.

Especially the degenerate elves.
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>>159968654
>pulls mobs
>stun
>use brews until they're all gone and have no charges left
>mobs start raging at 20% hp
>eat dirt
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>down heroic nythendra
>2 of the same belts drop, one 870 the other 885
>already have the base 865 version
>raid leader says to roll and links the 870 belt
>don't roll on it figuring i would let someone else have that one so i can roll on the 885
>"oh wait there's two I'll give the 885 to the highest and the 870 to the 2nd highest"
>mffw
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>>159967834
Frost DKs had some of the best AOE before the buffs now they can spec RA(and obliteration for pure ST) and do solid ST.
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>I watch other people play videogames.
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>>159967834
Yeah upper pack DPS
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>>159968858
>I film myself playing videogames
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>Trying to get a group to use my VoW keystone
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>Expansion Starts
>Get a bunch of tokens off the early gem/food gold rush
>Get 860 ilvl pretty easily
>7.1 releases
>Play one of the non-meme melee DPS classes
>Immediately left behind because I don't have a guild
>Realize I'll probably never pass 870 because A. Good legendary won't drop, B. Shitters want retardedly geared players to carry them in pugs and nothing else, C. My class is looked down upon and not invited to high level mythics or raisd, plus is melee, D. Most gear drops do not have my secondary stats (haste & crit), and E. I don't have a guild

Depressing, DESU. A week after the expansion launched I was one of the most geared players on my server. Now I'm just one of those people who signs up for the ultra-rare 840 ilvl requirement normal ENs, and gets declined despite having 860 ilvl. Haven't been able to get into a ToV since it released.
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What is objectively the coolest/least boring class and or spec in the game?
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I'm back with a Swedish trigger.
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>>159965654
Mage's conjured Water for about 6 minutes straight before each raid to hand out to everyone else.

Huntards, lazy Locks, Healers, that one degenerate Retadin/SPriest that was always hanging around.

You know the usual.
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>6 minutes to clear 2nd boss

how do i git gud? i wanna be as good as the serenity boys one day
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>>159969039
slut mog female red panda
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>>159969039
>Objectively Coolest
Ret Paladin
>Least Boring
Brewmaster Monk
>Actually Good
Neither of those
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>>159968698
we actually got that a few weeks ago

>>159968736
This is my last (you). You're not trying to understand BrM, you're just memeing on me.
by the way, you shouldn't run out of brews, ever. probably purifying like a retard

>>159969038
Get a guild. Why would you even play this game if you're not raiding or one of the guys that spam mythic + all day long?
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>>159969039
ele shaman

you get to control the elemants!
its super cool!
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Made a bear Tank Alt. Did I fuck up? I want that Werebear form. What do I do? What vids should I be watching? What should I be listening to?
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>>159969185
I'm unable to get a guild because:
A. My server (Ravencrest) is a ghost town
B. The few people on my server are major shitters
C. I play an undesirable class that no one wants
D. I don't have any friends who still play WoW
E. I'm too autistic to make friends
F. The few guilds that DO exist on my server solely want healers, and I don't heal

The deck is stacked against me.
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>>159969129
>Demon Hunter
Who cares
>>
how much does 1 point of stamina give?
>>
Do wow players have victim complexes?
They seem to react to blizzard the same way sjws react to perceived oppressors
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>>159969391
see

>>159969359
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>>159969236
You don't need to look at anything, do you?
Bear tank is pretty simple if you level it up, you'll understand it pretty well
I believe in you
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>buy myself the Six-feather Fan trinket (840 ilvl) for 120k gold
>know I've made a sound investment, it's BiS until mythic EN
>tfw replacing it just 3 weeks later
I feel so empty getting rid of it, that's a lot of gold. It was straight up BiS until mythic Ursoc, but then Kara came out and added a trinket far better than EVERYTHING.
And I finally got that Kara one.
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>>159969465
That's not really a victim complex, and even if it were it isn't directed towards Blizzard, besides their tendency to make melee-unfriendly expansions.
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>>159969528
if you're as autistic as i am, keep it for timewalking
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>>159969387
1 stamina
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>>159969359
Could transfer and join a vg guild
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>>159969391
I mean its either this or they go outside and join the masses of "oppressed" white people rioting and burning their own homes, confused teenagers threating to ruin peoples lives for not abiding by their mental illnesses, or foreign terrorists creating mass panic in countries they once idolized because they are not being welcomed with open arms when trying to emigrate. Global IQ seems to have dropped quite a bit. I'd rather stay inside where the worst thing I can get is a permaban instead of a bullet.
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>>159969593
Is it any good there? I put it in voidstorage for some reason. I do that to pretty much anything with sentimental value.
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>>159969387
>>159969604
how much HEALTH does 1 point of stamina give?
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>>159968654
>I'm not saying that thinking the spec is shit is unwarranted
My bad anon I misinterpreted you
The thing is brewmaster is actually fun to play its just finding groups is not, convince raids to let you tank isn't.
Blizzard is hoping the playerbase just pretend the dark period of brew never happened, and i get it they don't want to overbuff brewmaster to make people think they're good, but good fucking luck trying to make the playerbase change a conception without buffs or players who excel at the class. they should pay asmonggold to play brewmaster, get a popular streamer to trick the populace, it cannot be anyone in a top tier mythic guild then people will just think you need to be a super pro.

I'm not the guy getting instagibbed by dungeon mobs, i just agree with blizzard trying to change must have talents, make stuns baseline because they'll never not be picked.
I might just use ring of peace for awhile to meme on my groups.
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>>159969658
yeah, please stay inside and play world of warcraft
the world doesn't need this
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>>159969672
nah, i have no idea. i just keep all decent trinkets for timewalking
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>>159969658
>im indoctrinated by 4chan so i must stay inside and pretend they're all violent fanatics outside
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>>159969621
Can't transfer, I play off WoW tokens and am a poorfag.

Also fuck VG guilds.
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>>159969658
so you're literally a sjw then?
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So how hard would it be to gear up and learn Demon Huntard?
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>>159969825
ah, I'll have to try it then, can't say I've done much (well, anything) to optimize my timewalking gear
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>>159961474
beginning of cata had most subs, retard
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>>159970054
>press demons bite
>press rush every few seconds

not hard.
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>>159969853
I mean I went to the grocery store yesterday and this woman asked if I was relieved that the nigger is finally leaving office and everything is going back to normal. Just openly at the checkout line
>>159970002
Nah, manic depression I try not to have an opinion about anything that will get me in trouble or keep me outside longer than I need to be.
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>>159970092
beginning of cata also had the first noticable decline in subs in the game's history
they bought cata because they liked wotlk, and stopped playing when it was garbage
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>>159970196
I'd have said I was more relieved that the corrupt criminal that is Hillary didn't get office.
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>>159970092
Beginning of cata was good desu.
A year of fucking firelands and dealing retards who couldn't understand bethtilax made me want to die irl.
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>>159969552
shut up fag
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Considering leveling and rerolling to DK from my rogue, is this a good idea? Im 866 ilvl with the most resources fed into assassination but just find all the specs boring

Plus have 3 plate wearers already in our main group so the gear sharing would make it probably easy to get geared quick
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>>159970196
now I feel bad
how has your day been?
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>>159969141
>tfw have a ret paladin at 110
Feels good, thanks for helping me decide. And fuck off people who say the rotation is boring, it has crazy burst and it's way more engaging then say, a MM hunter or fire mage.
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>>159969658
You either live in the worst state/county of america or you've bought in the whole propoganda.
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>>159970196
>manic depression
>confused teenagers with their mental illnesses

Kek
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>>159969924
Reroll on a good server.

Surely you have some heirlooms and enough gold to get more tokens.

Area 52 is good Horde PvE, Stormrage is good for Alliance PvE.

Sargeras for Alliance PvP, Illidan with the anti-chink addon for Horde PvP.

Holy fuck are the PvP servers turbo cancer before you hit Legion where cross realm zones don't exist though.
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>>159969359
>server is a ghost town
>people on my server are shitters
Get the fuck out of there then? Why didn't you quit before launch if it was a ghost town?

>undesirable class
which one? keep trying though, you'll find one eventually

>the above point and
>the few guilds need healers
You're late as fuck man. most guilds recruited mostly before launch, and the ones that do recruit now need you to either show very good results (get warcraft logs, log everything you can, upload only where you looked good)
Even if the guild doesn't want you for main group, getting in usually can help you go to their N or H clears, and you find people to m+ with

>too autistic
You have to deal with that, no way around it.

>>159969718
I think the contrary, the spec right now is fucking awful. You don't die but you don't ever feel in control of staying alive.
Maybe they should do that.
The guy getting instagibbed by dungeon mobs is memeing, or has brain cancer.
and ring of peace is not completely awful as a concept, but in a dungeon you don't want to be throwing mobs around AND Leg Sweep is so much more valuablel (i want to skullfuck every shaman that casts that aoe knockback)

>>159969528
Darkmoon deck max ilv would have cost you less, and would be even better
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>>159970376
>Reroll
Nah.

I have a ridiculous amount of old stuff from previous expansion dating all the way back to vanilla that I don't want to lose because I'm a sentimental idiot.

I'm hoping they allow you to use wow tokens to add balance to bnet so I can transfer using them.
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Holy fuck, XP has dried the fuck up ever since I hit 60. What do?
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Should I even bother doing last zone dungeon quest if I don't manage to get it with the random dungeon finder by chance for the extra xp?
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>>159970521
Oh, you have shit from vanilla. Then wait, I think that they said that you'll be able to do that in the future

but we all know what future means for blizzard
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>>159970521
they recently said theyre implementing other features into tokens like they do with gametime, talked about it at blizzcon.
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What the hell is even the point of sanguine? It's a minor nuisance at best.
>>
How do people LITERALLY not have TWENTY FIVE DOLLARS to spare to server transfer? I get it if you have to pay for college, you pay for rent etc, but you literally live by the fucking dollar? You don't have ANY spare money? If I was in that situation I'd stop using my computer peroid until I upgraded to a job that gave me more money. Jesus christ.
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>>159959953

>UnlimitedPowah.webm
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>>159970647
Spam dungeons until you can do Northrend stuff, the Outlands really fucking sucks.
That place has aged terribly
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>>159959953
>killing ugly trolls
Good job. Now you jump off too for being a fat dumb looking panda.
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>>159970647
stop posting faggot
>>159970842
do not respond to the autistic name fag dwarf
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>>159970783
>first boss of BRH
>someone drops sanguine under the boss when he does his 50% channel
>instant heal to 100%
Also when any retard stuns the mob pack in sanguine its pretty annoying.
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>>159970842
Nevermind, didn't see Skada, guess you're already doin dungeons
Just stick it out for a while, the Outlands dungeon grind sucks as well. Fuck, so does WotLK, it's the same one dungeon for like 3 levels.

>>159970917
sorry
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>>159970802
Unemployed college students don't have things like money, or ways to spend what cash they do have online.
>>
Hey DPS autists when you say you want DPS on pull when exactly do you want it? Before you start attacking or after a few seconds?
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>>159970521
Well it can't be weapons, armor, pets, or mounts since it's all bound to account.

What do you have a bank full of ZG bijous, Librams, and resist gear holding you back?
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>>159969682
Just do the math retard.
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>>159970842
I like outland leveling more than cata and mop leveling

>>159970917
why? what did he do?
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>>159970802
Well, soon enough we'll be able to add bnet balance via the gold tokens, so that's something.
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>>159971029
Yeah, a minor nuisance.
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>>159971101
Yes
And quest items that weren't converted into toys
I will never get rid of my pristine red rider air rifle with all 200 shots still remaining. That shit is a collector item
>>
how do damage dealers manage to not run out of red circles while doing damage and get below 100k dps both at the same time
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>>159971128
Hellfire Venuzuela and Zangarmarsh are maximum /comfy/
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>>159970802
these are neets who are too nervous to ask their parents for money, man
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>please loot i'm a skinner
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>>159971242
it's nice and relaxing cus you can just grab a bunch of quests and get them done with no bullshit
it's a satisfying experience
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>>159970802
>You don't want to buy feces? What are you, poor?
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>>159971128
>why? what did he do?
he name fags and post pictures no one cares about of him "bullying" normies he just calls them cucks xD
>>159971051
>sorry
thats ok just dont let it happen again
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>>159971101
my friends bank was loaded with old food that was from starting quests in new expansion zones and shit like that.
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>>159970647
You're funny as fuck in dungeons, keep it up.

>>159971429
killjoy, go suck a dick
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>>159971516
he is super autistic and cringy
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>>159971225
Enjoy being guildless then, loser
Maybe you'll become lonely enough your shiny digital rifle will start talking to you. Then you'll have a new friend. Haha!
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>>159971623
Don't be so mean, autists have feelings too you know.
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>>159971128
Maybe I've just got shit taste, but the quests in the Outlands feel so shit and outdated.

You'll be asked to collect some large amount of items, like 20 bad guy trinkets, and the map will circle an area. The wrong area is circled, but you find them anyway. You kill 10 of the mobs and get 2 of the items you need, now there's no mobs left to kill, and you have to wait for respawns.

Plus it's missing conveniences like knowing which mob drops the item you're after (by hovering over them)
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>>159971690
It already does.
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>>159971816
Does it tell you to put it in your mouth and pull the trigger? Cause it damn well should.
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>>159971745
i am also a super autist but i dont go showing everyone anymore
he should know better
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>>159971225
an item from 2009 that everyone got and is sold by a vendor in dalaran is rare now?
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>>159971992
Yes.
I'm too much of a coward to do it though
Besides its a fucking BB rifle, it would do fuck all except hurt a lot
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>>159971992
Don't joke about suicide, it's not funny.
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>>159971429
big fucking deal
if people don't like him they'll ignore him on their own accord
no reason to ignore somebody because a stranger booty bothered by their name
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what's the point of having to link a heroic achievement to get into a normal raid?
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>need to do archaeology to get some rank 3 profession recipes

how about you eat shit blizzard
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>>159972038
It isn't sold by a vendor in dalaran I don't think.
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WoW normies confirmed for insecure manlets.
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>>159972090
To guarantee that retards know the basics of the fights and you can one shot everything fast since you're only there for a chance of a legendary dropping, same reason why people put the minimum ilvl at 850+
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BM or MM hunter?
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>>159972147
>rank 3 jc mastery ring supposed to drop my dargrul heroic
>killed him multiple times and nothing
>same on mythic
>meanwhile i get the flask recipes from mythic bosses in one kill
pretty sure it doesnt exist
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>>159972164
http://www.wowhead.com/item=46725/red-rider-air-rifle#sold-by
but it is
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>Have over 300 augment runes from CtA satchels.
>Finally decide to sell them because they're taking too much bag space.
>Put them all for half the current price.
>Instantly sold them all.
>>
>look at auction house
>all this crafting junk i picked up over the past months is worth tens of thousands of gold
>realise i don't even want/need gold

huh. i made 5k today doing literally nothing but dungeon runs.
i don't know where all this money comes from
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>tfw your mount doesnt match your transmogé
ugh ;_;
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>>159972283
>half the price
but y tho
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>outland is comfy
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>>159972315
what's wrong with your face?
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>>159972356

nagrand is comfy

every other zone can fuck off
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>>159972315
>tfw have no good ground mounts
>just run around on a Hawkstrider
Feels pleb.
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>>159972364
NOTHING?!
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>>159972251
please respond
>>
Hope you guys weren't making money off crafted jewelry.

It's getting nerfed into oblivion. Sell now
>>
What profession should I replace tailoring with on my mage? Is herb the best choice?
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>>159972439
fucking SLUT
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>>159972439
where can I get that hat
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me and my gf (she is sleeping)
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>>159972731
No!
>>159972853
Karazhan!
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>do mythics
>do mythic+
>do worldquests
>get zero upgrades

i've been the same ilevel for like the past three days, despite being relatively low and play about 9 hours a day
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>>159972981
your cape makes it look like you have a big blue dick
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>>159972536
y
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>Brewmaster Monks have a community perspective problem. People aren't as familiar with your spec, so they go with someone else rather than "taking a risk". Brewmaster is very strong right now, they just feel different than other tanks. Brewmasters smooth out incoming damage so much, so even if they take a little more damage, it is taken in a way that is predictable. They have incredibly high survival. Healers feel like they can't top off Brewmasters, but they aren't actually dying. Not dying is what tanking is all about. They have great mobility, solid control, good cooldowns, can survive things that no other tank can survive. There may be a high skill cap to playing Brewmaster correctly and no one wants to take a risk. It is the same situation when players decline players with adequate gear for a dungeon in favor of someone with even better gear. People want a smooth run and it is only natural to form a group that has the highest likelihood of success. You should take that risk on Brewmasters.
>>
>all this attention being given to subpar secondary stats
>meanwhile an 870 relic I found is far, far worse than the 840 I've already got
ok
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>>159973241
But the relic system fucks one slot, while the secondaries stat thing fucks all of your gear.
relics are going to be always awful unless they remove all the bad ones or get rid of the system entirely
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>human paladin
>dwarf shaman
>gnome warlock
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>>159973241
>870 relic I found is far, far worse than the 840

You could have just started your post with "im a dumbass" to save us all time
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>>159973219
>be healer
>tank is brewmaster
>have to constantly heal him like crazy because he can't die
>rest of the people die because i'm busy spamming flash on the tank

nice balans riot
>>
>>159972425
>implying chocobos aren't the best mounts
>>
>>159973241
>meanwhile an 870 relic I found is far, far worse than the 840

prove it
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Any guardian druids that can help me?
where can i find the best in slot gear for me? I am lost, i'm kind of new here, icy veins helps but not that much...
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>>159973461
But it really is.
It adds 6% damage to ability I never use, the 840 adds 6% to an ability that makes up most of my damage.
Even all those ilvls the 870 adds won't make it worth it
>>
>>159973543
why do you keep trying to heal him to 100%? just leave him at 80.
>>
>>159973125
They're lowering the base stats and increasing the speed in which they gain secondary stats.

IE:

Your perfectly stated 855 crafted ring will be SHIT compared to your ~870 ring
>>
Prepare to Migrate:
>>159973721
>>159973721
>>159973721
>>
>>159973646
Join the druid discord and ask there.
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>>159973781
can you link bro? i had no idea that existed
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>>159973625
>>159973461
Compare them yourself with mrrobot or some crap if you want, an 870 relic with a Between the Eyes trait, and an 840 with a Run Through or finisher energy trait.
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>>159973646
>Sem Título
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>>159968323
>hella freakin epic
>>
>>159963853

even with the sef bracers serenity is still ahead because monk clones are odd instances of pets, and they do not benefit from haste breakpoints (or haste at all) nor % damage

if you use sef as a monk you need to stop


even if the bugs were fixed, sef with bracers would still be under serenity
>>
>>159973743
Report this shitposter please.
>>
>>159953640
So Gul'dan saw the destruction of Argus right before his death?

What kinda shit is that Ion?
>>
>>159967609

you're meant to pull those 3 packs together (you can leave out the killable ones if you're a bitch) since it saves so much time and is just as easy as doing the packs seperately
>>
>watch the q&a
>nothing about legacy servers

fuck you blizzard
>>
why so ded
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>>159975428
some retard made a thread 30 posts early
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>>159957847
wait, didn't you post artwork of this belf yesterday?
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>>159958683
if they touch insignia i'm probably done, it's the only thing that makes outlaw's dogshit rng damage acceptable
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