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Old thread: >>159607207


>Patch 1.09 Info
http://www.jp.playstation.com/op/bloodborne/news/2015/12/update109.html

>Accessing the DLC
http://www.bloodborne-wiki.com/2015/09/the-old-hunters.html
Note: If the eye isn't showing up, go to: Settings > Playstation Network/Account Management > Restore Licenses

>Co-Op & PvP
http://www.bloodbell.com/
Official PvP Chalice: hizzngr3 (Pthumeru Root)
/bbg/ Fight Club:
Pthumeru - n6rc9jh8
Loran - jjpkdcgd
Isz - 9v8qndas
(every Saturday 6pm EST, general rules:http://imgur.com/1RjNbF4)

>Resources Pastebin - Planners, Calculators, Spreadsheets, Stats Info, Where to go next in BB, Guide Scans & Wikis
http://pastebin.com/aNR8TXUr

>Chalice Pastebin - General Info, Glyphs for Gems, Best Gems Setups, Multiplayer & Speedrunning
http://pastebin.com/489M5NBv

>Media Pastebin - OSTs, Concept Art & Screenshots
http://pastebin.com/t8byCxfj

>Beasthood & Claws Info
http://pastebin.com/jnbs35ZX

>Wheel, Fight Club, Arc 101 & other Misc. Info
http://ssjnugget.imgur.com

>Bloodborne Damage Calculations and Formulas
http://pastebin.com/YnRRZPMp

>Google Document for all the above, but easier to read.
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1sItpr6PHpoEiFbtFIBtPO4UNeNEpxuztHteANTJRHDU/edit#heading=h.od90ylbez0rz
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xth for Guiding Moonlight
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>>159694713
DID SOMEBODY SAY MOONLIGHT
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>>159694809
Dedposters are early I see
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>>159694929
It's only one guy. He always uses the same image.
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>>159695078
every /bbg/ is the same 20 or so pictures desu
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jj(?)b... That's like the first Chalice Dungeon isn't it?

I just had a dude at BL100 range summon me for Watchers, then proceed to get OHKO'd the machete-wielding one.
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>>159695139
Same filename too.
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>>159695139
Kenneth was a true friend haha
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>>159695190
Don't SRRC at level 100, you'll get 90% depths 1-3.

Go to 120+ if you want to be summoned for good chalices.
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>>159695209
You're mad because a guy who doesn't even post here outshined END yourself
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>>159695312
>120+
Haha, no.
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>>159695663
I just think Kenneth is a shit meme. It's literally one webm of a shitty ugly character. You're telling me that a year later and we still find ugly characters funny?

At least END has more to the joke than being hideous.
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>>159695701
Enjoy killing bosses in 2 hits then.
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>>159695663
Sure, lets go with that.
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>>159695815
back to discord with you
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>>159695815
>You're telling me that a year later and we still find ugly characters funny?
I find that one character funny.
END Yourself is nothing special, he's hideous too but not funny or memorable at all unlike Kenneth.
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This room was mean.
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>>159696032
it's just the discord trying to be elitist about how they're memes are somehow superior to /bbg/'s
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>>159696032
END's joke is that it's a build that somehow manages to both be overleveled and only have leveled the worst stat in the game.

It's like someone made a BL4 character that can PvP with people in the 100s.
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>>159696426
Wow, how fucking clever.
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>>159696426
Shit builds exist? Who would have thought.
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>you will never be Maria and be surrounded by grotesque patients who want to suck your dick 24/7

What's it like to have people look up to you and love you /bbg/?
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>>159696729
>implying you wouldn't suck maria's dick too given the chance
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>>159696729
>What's it like to have people look up to you and love you /bbg/?
That's the one thing in life that I'll probably never know.
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>>159697056
>>>/r9k/
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>>159696729
man someone should really use photoshop to reduce her tits and thighs a little bit
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>>159697149
This general is pretty much r9k already
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>>159697167
Are you a faggot anon?
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>>159697248
Leave then.
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>>159697297
You leave.
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>>159697297

Why dont you?
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>>159697167
The chest maybe, but why would you ever not want delicious thick thighs?
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>>159697290
>>159697407
because apart from not looking like maria thicc is fucking gross
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>>159697475

Do you like lankey Maria that much?
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>>159697475
irish people please go
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>>159697590
reported
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>>159697391
I'm here for co-op and game discussion.
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>>159697704
Same
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>>159697704
>>159697778
kiss and co-operate then
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>>159697778
>>159697704

Gay
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>>159697704
I'm here for d a n k w e b m s
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>>159697934
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>>159697546
>Lanky Maria

>She has no style
>She has no grace
>This hunter
>Has a funny face
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>>159698025
>funny face

DAE LE FUNI FAEC MEEMAY!?!
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>>159697998
Thanks but i'm one of the guys that fucking hates the Kenneth joke and thinks it's a god awful forced piece of garbage inside joke that needs to die as soon as humanely possible.

Moral of the story is that what you posted is not a dank webm and you should feel ashamed for perpetuating this filth.
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>>159697934
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>>159698203
>here for webms
>hates kenny
found the discorder
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>>159698208

What does this guy even drop?
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>>159697934
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>>159698346
Blood echoes
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>>159698350

Ban Saif
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>content creators are pro-Kenneth
>Luci-tier tripfag and Discorders are against him
What does this mean?
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>>159698448
We're already banning Chikage this week. Let's just take it one at a time.
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>>159698448
Stop being bad and Saif will stop looking overpowered to you.

>>159698537
Proof?
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This game is hard. And it cheats.
So what the point of Chalice Dungeons? Should I do them.
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>>159697934
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>>159698482
means /bbg/ is dead and needs to be ended
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>>159698482
>content creators
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>>159698659
I don't see the connection.
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>>159698601
>Proof?
it was decided last thread
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>>159698719
Let's see some Mercury drawing then.
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>>159698659
Now more than ever as well
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>>159698783
By one person.
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>>159698940
why do you fags keep dragging me into your super petty meme debates
Sorry if I slammed you some FC but you gotta get over it
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>>159698940
I'm making a new one tomorrow.
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>>159697934
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>>159699003
>Sorry if I slammed you
>dat luci-tier ego

inb4 "it was just a prank"
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>>159699131
I cannot think of another reason you keep dragging me into this, literally by name
it's like you hate the idea of tripfags and namefags and yet you literally perpetuate my identity on this general more than I ever have
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>>159699003
>they must be mad at me cuz im so good
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>>159697475
>thicc is fucking gross
AWAY AWAY
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>>159698482
>Content creators
Like not to shit on you but the amount of shit i've made for this general over time is actually absurd. I've edited pictures, drawn shit, even made sliders for people.

I don't bring it up because who gives a shit but just the fact that you assume i haven't contributed just because I hate a shitty nu-bbg meme actually somehow gets under my skin.
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>>159699707
*Ruined
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>>159699771
Let's see those drawings and edits.
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>>159699771
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>>159699771
>talking to shitposters

Dude I feel the exact same way all the time, but you literally can't win.
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>>159695663
But I'm the guy who made END Yourself and I don't care

That said I don't find Kenneth funny myself
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>>159699771
>you assume i haven't contributed just because I hate a shitty nu-bbg meme
Did I mention you personally?
I said that he's hated by a shitposter and Discorders, which is objectively true.
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>>159699707
Good job

>>159699419
I cant wait to upgradw my own Saif!
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>>159699984
>i totally don't care guys
>btw kenneth isn't funny just saiyan
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>>159700054
I said I didn't find him funny, faggot.

This humor thing is subjective.
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>>159700189
>I said I didn't find him funny, faggot.
You seem really intent on driving that point home for some reason.
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>>159700189
The other discorders don't seem to agree since they keep screaming "forced meme" every time they see a picture of that face and bring up END as an example of authentic meme.

I like both personally.
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>>159700324

I like neither.

Forced memes are a reflection of the creative bankruptcy of the community. We wouldnt rely on these if we had fresh content.

Maybe the Pro will inject some life, even if it's only a little, into BB
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>>159700324
Honestly they just want to act like they're so far above /bbg/ that people finding something funny offends them.
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>>159700446
It's not happening. Bloodborne is at the end of its lifetime (content-wise at least, multiplayer is still active), and by extension so is /bbg/. We'll continue scraping the bottom of the barrel as long as the thread sticks around. The only new life that could happen is a large amount of new players at once, but that just means more people asking the same stupid questions to be met with "read the OP".
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>>159700446
Every meme in existence is "forced".
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>>159700446
Are any memes not forced to be quite honest with you family
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>>159700546

More coop and pvp would be nice.

>>159700579
>>159700553
>how to spot a teenager
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>>159699825
Here's a quick mash of all the OC i've made that wasn't for personal reasons, like character screenshots and what have you.

This is also only the stuff that I kept and cataloged. There's other shit I know for a fact that I made that I can't see in here.
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>>159700656
Wow you're so cool.

I'll always remember your brave contributions.
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>>159700645
Petty insults aren't arguments.

>>159700656
How is any of this better than Kenneth?
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>>159700792
Fuck you too bud.
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>>159698203
Lemme get this straight then

Old memes are bad sit reposts that need to die

And new memes are forced garbage that need to die
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>>159700851
Only the Discord is True and Pure™.
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I'm trying to learn viscerals but sometimes they're tricky. Am I supposed to wait for the last second and press L2 for a counter or am I supposed to wait for certain attack patterns? What i'm wondering is if every attack can be countered or only certain ones.

Can bosses be countered as well?
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>>159700645
Let's pretend that Longcat and Mama Luigi and any other classic meme wasn't just the result of constant repetition then.
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>>159700851
I don't care about memeposts at all, only Kenneth.

Because it has no reason to exist and no reason to be as much of a thing as it is. It is literally actually just a funny face. The fact that people found it interesting enough to make it into anything worth all this shit astounds me.
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>>159700920
You have to L2 right before the enemy strikes.
You can parry every enemy that is approximatively human sized, bosses included.
Lady Maria for example is easy to parry in her fist phase, and so is Pthumerian Descendant.
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>>159701000
Well buckle up because you're moaning only makes it stronger.
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why doesn't sony let Fromsoft make Bloodborne 2? Was Bloodborne not profitable enough?
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>>159700656
Aah, sweet child of Kos, returned to the ocean.

A bottomless curse, a bottomless meme. Accepting of all that there is and can be.
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>>159700920
The bullet basically has to hit the enemy on the downswing, the timing on this depends on how much of a downswing any given attack has.

Only a few bosses can be parried, generally speaking if the boss is humanoid or just smalled (like blood starved beast) it can be countered, it it's big like Cleric beast it can't
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>>159701000
I like him and other anons like him therefore he has a reason to be a thing.
Expect more of him.
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>>159701102
haha i want to die
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>>159701092
Because they went on bbg for 5 minutes and realised we don't deserve another game
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>>159701000
No meme has a reason to exist. People repost and edit them because they find them funny, this goes for everything. Kenneth is literally no different and your posts just scream 'stop posting what I don't like'.
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>>159701092
Probably because Miyazaki doesn't want to make another BB game and is content with leaving it as it is, preferring to start work on an entirely new IP
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Anyone bored and willing to help me go through Ailing Loran CD?
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>check /bbg/
>autists arguing about whether memes are memes
>general floods of shitposts
>one or two co-op requests
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>>159701184
Not him, but: stop posting what I don't like.

Better yet, just stop posting tbqh famiglia (that's Italiano for senpai)

>>159701226
Yeah, sure. Give me a pass and I'll SRRC.
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>>159701214
It's not up to him. Sony owns the IP. Now granted, if he doesn't work on it we all know the game will be quite bad but still.
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>>159700920
Each enemy's attack has two parts to it: the windup, and the actual attack

If your bullet hits them during their windup, there will be no parry, though the enemy may be staggered depending on its weight and/or your firearm

If your bullet hits them during the active attack frames, i.e. when their attack is coming at you, you will get a parry.

Most enemies can be parried, but a good rule of thumb is that if the enemy is less than double your height, it can likely be parried. This includes bosses like Gascoigne, Maria, Orphan, Gehrman, the Shadows of Yharnam, Micolash, etc.
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>>159701092
Miyazaki has no plans for a new Dark Souls or Bloodborne game despite both selling very well. The only hope is DLC's.

I think he's planning on creating something entirely new but with the same base gameplay. I can't imagine what kind of new game he'd create unless it's something in the futuristic setting.
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>>159701335
Thanks. Pass is bbg. I don't know if it matters if you're using the SRRC, but I'm at the start of layer 2.
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>>159701278
This is the future now.
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>>159701339
I don't think Sony is demanding sequels from him like Namco did, they seem cool with letting him make new IP's rather than sequels.
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>>159701440
It's not up to Miyazakek.

Sony owns BB and Bamco owns DaS.

Sony might respect BB and let it rest in peace, but I guarantee we'll have DaSIV before 2018 is through.
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>>159701471
I'm fine with that t bh. BB is fine as a one game thing and as much as I'd like to play another there's a high chance they'd mess it up
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>>159701514
Either way he's stated he has no desire to create a new BB/DS game and would instead prefer working on a new series.
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>>159701440
Cyberpunk Bloodborne would be pretty neat

>>159701514
Miyazaki was under contract with Namco to make three games, after DaS3 that contract is done, they can't demand any more games from him.
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>>159701596

He didn't.
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>>159701446
I'm in.
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>>159701658
>implying they won't just get a new team to shit out DS4
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>>159701596
He said DS3 would be the last Dark Souls, and people took this as "there will never be anything similar to Souls ever again as long as he lives"
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>>159701658
Cyberpunk would be really cool as long as guns aren't thrown into the mix, unless it's done like Bloodborne. I can't really see it happening though, maybe another classical setting but with heavy vampire undertones.
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>>159701957
So basically Castlevania Souls?
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>>159702081
Yeah, that'd be pretty sweet.
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>>159702156
I always saw Souls as carrying on the spirit of CV anyways since DeS came out right after Lords of Shadow completely killed the series.
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>>159702240
The series resemble each other aesthetically too, it makes me think a Castlevania like game can definitely be pulled off.
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>>159702521
>pic of LoS
that one doesn't even count, it was CV by name only.

gameplay was a GoW clone, story was unrelated to the previous CV canon, and the soundtrack (which is arguably the most important part of CV) was bland and generic.
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>>159701881
https://www.vg247.com/2016/06/13/from-software-has-three-new-projects-in-the-works/
There's 3 projects being worked on right now, one of them being Armored Core and another being something "completely different and weird" from what they usually work on. No idea on the 3rd.

Kinda gives a lot of room for speculation, but there's no guarantee Miyazaki is even working on any of said series. I'm interested in seeing what new IP he comes up with though.
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>>159702792
>completely different and weird
Maybe they'll make a classic-style survival horror again and revive the genre from the dead?

a man can dream
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>>159702956
No, that actually sounds like something they'd do.
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>>159697934
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>>159697934
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a-anyone wanna do chalices..?
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>>159704430
I would love to do chalices if it wasn't 2AM and I wasn't getting into bed
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>>159704471
it's only 1am and does your bed have room for one more
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>>159704948
It's 2AM on the Beast Coast, and my bed always has room anon
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Post Micolashes
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B U L L Y

pw: cunt
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>>159706015
this is offensive to wymen and you should be utterly ashamed of yourself
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>>159705847
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>>159706091
I didn't have that one, thank you
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>>159705847
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>>159706091
>bbg in a nutshell
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>>159704948
>>159705003
>A fellow anon from /bbg/ will never snuggle up with you on a cold night and help alleviate some of that soul crushing loneliness that gets just ever so harder to bare with every passing night
N-no homo though
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>>159706989
Holy shit man this is even worse than the dedposting.
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>>159707195
Sorry anon, I know, I'm a faggot.

It's just, going home to an empty house everyday, sitting in absolute silence except the clicking of your keyboard until 3am in the morning until you're finally forced to curl up into a cold bed, shivering in the ice cold sheets until your body heat warms it up enough to proved some sense of comfort gets hard to live with after a while.
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>>159707684
>shivering in the ice cold sheets until your body heat warms it up enough

Are you me? Somehow that feels better than running the central heat to me
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>>159707861
I do like the "cold on the outside, warm on the inside" feeling, it's really nice until you wake up to such wonderfully toasty sheets and are forced to crawl out of them into the waiting ice on the inside of the window frame cold.
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Fuck, this place needs Luci back
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>>159708236
?
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>>159708236
>>159708346
Totally not the same person!
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>>159708493
>>159708236
Totally not the same person!
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>>159709076
>>159708493
Well, which is it then you meme-addled chumps?
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What are the meta levels?
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>>159709517
Most people use 120, /bbg/ uses 98
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>>159709601
>98
But why?
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>>159709808
>best co-op range
>best invasion range
>avoids the 150 shitters
>enough levels to give variety
>few enough levels to avoid build homogenization
>was proposed and promoted by a legendary pillar of the community, me

It's literally the perfect level for BB
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>>159699707
actually that DOES look better...
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>>159710448

the knight mair swords an charms on and in
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>>159709808
Becacause 100 feels like a natural stopping point for build's due to how stats work in order to have enough to get the most out of weapons while also having to make sacrifices and impossible to have everything.

98 is due to how matchmaking works 100 is pretty shit, you end up invading 150's who two shot you with Ludwig's.
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>tfw can't kill ludwig
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>>159711667
Dodge to 9 o' clock in phase 1, 10 or 2 o' clock in phase 2.
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>lvl 90
>invade a guy wielding bowblade and rosmarinus
>shoot him for about 75dmg with my gun (it usually deals around 200)
>he two hit kills me with r1

What. It felt like he must have been lvl 200 or something.
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>>159711667
Get the Whirligig, summon Valtr, and lock him in a corner.
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The hyper armor on ludwigs is absurd. I use transformed chikage and try to swing before them so that it connects just as they start their animation and it never stops them, but when they connect I am staggered so hard I am having war flashbacks.
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>>159712574
>uses chikaGAY
you deserve it
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>>159709601
How do you squeeze a Moonlight sword build into that ? Low health ? Or meeting the minimal requirements and then investing only in arcane ?
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>>159712932
25/50 or 50/25 Str/Arc with 12-25 Skill. 40-50 Vit, base End or up to 20 with a Stamina Rune is enough. Cruel Fate is the best starting class for it and the 12 End it has is enough.
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>>159713068
How about 25/25/25 ? It seems to have a softcap up to that point, each point upping the AR by 3-4 points. After that it's only 1-2 AR per point in any of the stats. After that 40 vit and 20 end which puts you at level 90 with cruel fate.
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>>159713068
12 end is like what, one and half a hit from mlgs?
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>>159713268
You could do that, though you do miss out on Heavy Abyssals from 50 Strength or Cold Abyssals from 50 Arcane. With that build you're really limited to the HMS and maybe Logi Wheel with Flat Arcane gems, everything else will be severely sub-optimal. In my opinion, Vit is more important than End so I'd switch out some points from End into Vit.
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>>159713268
With 25/25/25 your beams will suffer but the R1s will hit hard.
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>>159713348
Not really, you could still get 3-4 r1s from the tricked mode with a 20% Stamina Rune. Plus if you're PvPing you wouldn't want to spam attacks.
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>>159713487
>you could still get 3-4 r1s from the tricked mode with a 20% Stamina Rune
12 End with 20% stam rune gives 114 Stam. With 115 Stam you can swing three times leaving just enough stamina to dash once.
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>>159713425
Just remembered that I liked to cast A Call From Beyond so I'm thing about something like this. Don't think I will spend any time grinding for super gems.
>>159713431
How about 25/25/40 ?
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>>159713768
>How about 25/25/40 ?
The weapon would be okay, but your Vit is suffering way too much to do FRCs or PvP. You'd be at a far greater disadvantage than the HMLS makes up for.

If you're dead set on staying at 98 (which I admire), and if you want the build to do more than just use the HMLS, I'd recommend 16/12/50, and using it as a beam launcher. Its untricked R2 will still pay dividends, although its R1s will never be very good.
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>>159713646
You could still dodge after 3 swings with 114 Stamina, just tried it.

>>159713768
40 Arcane for A Call Beyond is pretty underwhelming. The grind for Abyssal aren't too bad, much easier than grinding Nourishings for the HMS. I wouldn't put Vit below 40, take some from End and/or Skill and pump Vit and Arcane.
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>>159713946
>You could still dodge after 3 swings with 114 Stamina, just tried it.
Didn't mean to suggest you couldn't.

>The grind for Abyssal aren't too bad, much easier than grinding Nourishings for the HMS
If you don't care about 0.2% farming Ihyll gargoyles takes about five minutes.
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>>159713926
Well I guess I would like to finally try out the /bbg/ fight club. Plus I don't like overleveling since I always feel like I'm breaking Soft's games with it.
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>>159714051
Well I've used a 16/12/50 HMLS in FCs and done okay.

If the build is only going to use the HMLS, 25/25/25 might be marginally better, although I have no experience with it.

At least with 16/12/50 you'll get good use out of Tools and whatever weapons you decide to convert to elemental damage.
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What's with every fucking thing having one hit kill attacks? Why do Rom's spider adds in the chalice dungeon have to do half my health and stagger me in a single hit?
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>>159713768
If I was going to make a BL98 HMLS, I'd do this.

If you're comfortable with 12 End though you could drop those points into Vit. 41 Vit is the absolute lowest I'd ever recommend going.
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>>159698203

You are aware that with the small amount of people in /bbg/, every joke is an inside joke, right? Hell, general-specific memes in every general is an inside joke.

Your logic makes no sense.
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>>159714786
Feels like a gimp to physical damage for some increase in arcane damage - how does HMS damage work anyway, pure physical untricked, pure arc tricked like Chikage ? Or is there a split ?
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>>159715471
>Feels like a gimp to physical damage for some increase in arcane damage
Well, it is. But depending, again, on what you want the build to do, it's worth it.

The difference in Phys damage from 25/25 to 25/12 is about 75, and the Arc damage from 50 to 25 is about 60.

However, if you want to use tools, convert weapons, or fire the HMLS' beams, you really need the 50 Arc, and that's what I do.

>how does HMS damage work anyway
For the R1s, it's 100% phys in both forms, with 50% arc untricked and 70% arc tricked.

Charge attacks get better modifiers all around, and beams do just shy of 3x arc damage.
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Ringing in hemwick lane with pass bbg for some jolly cooperation.
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After my first noob playthrough with the Ludwig, I have decided to use the Blade of Mercy for my new character? What is the consensus on this weapong? I love its move set and the mobility it provides.
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Anyone else play this game with an autistic obsession, purely to distract you from the nightmare that is real life? I fear I may of ended myself already if it wasn't for bloodborne.
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I want Uncanny Burial Blade and am almost finished Ailing Loran. Can I make an FRC after this and then search glyphs?
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>>159718383
Sadly Uncanny Burial Blade is found in Lower Loran root dungeons, not Ailing Loran. You're gonna have to kill the mad as fuck wank demon.
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>>159718553
FUCK you mean it's not enough that I clear a Loran dungeon, or create a Lower Loran?
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>>159718285
Every weapon is viable and Blade of Mercy is a pretty nice weapon for PvP. 50 Skill is all you really need for it, no need to invest in Arcane since it scales horribly with it.
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>>159718285
Good weapon overall. Get 50 skl and ignore the arc scaling on it. In PvE you might have some challenges since they're rubbish with crowd control but the r1 spam is sex if you're 1v1ing something. Its untricked charged r2 is probably the fastest in the game and mixing l1s in afterwards give style and damage. Tricked dashr1s are the best move on it though by far, doing both thrust damage and having shitty netcoding in pvp on its side. BoM generally doesn't see as much use now as it used to because rakuyo exists which is even easier to cheese shit with.

Don't try killing Eileen for them at the start though. Progress through the game naturally and build them after Crowsteel. That 40k can be put to better use in levels and they need upgrades+skl to get the best out of them
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>>159718840
you need the Lower Loran root chalice to acsess Lower Loran Glyphs. Right now you can acsess Ailing Loran glyphs, but that's not where the good weapons and runes are. And guess who drops the Lower root chalice: Loran Darkbeast.

Chalice's are such a dumb execution of a solid idea. There should not have been 10 preset dungeons and almost double that in different root dungeon types. There should have been Pthumuru, Hintertomb, Loran and Isz presets (plus Pthumuru Ihyll once you cleared all the others) and only 4 root Chalice's which varied in depth and difficulty based on what materials you used instead of arbitrary preset material lists.

A Ptumuru root chalice made with Ritual Blood 3, 2 Red Jellies and a Yellow Backbone should have had certain properties and restrictions on what could appear in the dungeon. A Ptumuru root with Ritual Blood 5, a Sage's Wrist, Bastard of Loran and some Arcane Haze should have had different restrictions on what was in the dungeon.

Give players some control over content while still being random and make it far less tedious to get to the good stuff.
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>>159719152
>>159719084

Cheers. Nice to know I don't need Arcane. I will put some more points into BLT instead since I didn't use any of the guns in my first run.
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I am so fucking sick of these red spiders
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Kos... or some say, Kosm...
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>>159719595
If you want decent damage from your guns, get 25 Bloodtinge for your Skill build if you care about staying around 80-120. Military Veteran or Lone Survivor are the best classes to start with if you don't plan to have any Arcane investment. 15 Arcane for the Old Hunter Bone is pretty nice for the BoM though.
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>>159719941

>Old Hunter Bone

That tool does sound amazing. Even quicker movement and teleportation? Sweet. Is it useful in PVE, though? I am not really into Souls PvP.
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>>159720505
It's okay against hunters. 15 Arcane also opens up Beast Roar, Empty Phantasm Shell for non-split weapons, and the Choir Bell (it's eh but you could heal if someone throws a Numbing Mist at you, plus it's unparriable but costs 7 Bullets). OHB helps weapons that have great dash r1 attacks like the Wheel, Bloodletter, BoM, etc. Pretty fun to use.
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>>159719734
Wheres this one
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>>159720872
>posting the inferior version
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>>159701000
How can a friendly face like this make some people so furious?
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>Gilbert became a beast when the red moon showed up
If the blood moon progresses the transformation into Beasthood then why aren't there more large Huntsmen and Scourge Beasts?
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>>159722195
All the huntsmen were already outside
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>>159722238
But shouldn't the moon speed up their transition into Beasts?
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>>159719084
BoM used to be considered a cheese weapon before TOH
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>>159702521
The one you posted is complete trash though, especially in terms of aesthetics
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>>159721796
I think it's because the guy doesn't even fucking post here and you guys are making a big deal out of le funny face xd. Worse that the subreddit
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>>159722195
I think it is more related to his sickness than the red moon. Maybe he was weak and that made the transition faster
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>>159725916
>gets incredibly mad because someone is posting a funny picture
>"no, YOU are the one who's making a big deal out of it!"
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>>159726037
>Wastes time trying to push this new meme in nu-bbg
I mean I wouldn't care desu but Kenneth doesn't even post here does he? Stop making such a big deal out of him you are acting like the retards on the subreddit that make threads about seeing funny faces.
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>>159726206
>Stop making such a big deal out of him
see >>159726037
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>>159726253
Are you going to actually answer me or just link to another post again. My man just stop
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>>159726419
Posting a picture and laughing at it isn't "making a big deal out of someone", making angry replies every time said image is posted is.
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>>159726485
>Pushes the meme hard every fucking thread
>Fanart being drawn of him
Please just stop embarrassing yourself my dude i'd get it if it was just lmao look at this face. But you lot have taken something that didn't even come from /bbg/ and tried to force it to be a meme really fucking hard.
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>>159726616
Force in what way? How am I forcing you to save and post his images? You can simply ignore it or even filter the filenames if it bothers you so much.
I don't want to stop posting what I and other user enjoy just because somehow it hurts your sensibility.
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>>159726732
>Posting it every single fucking thread
>"Force in what way"
I'm done my dude you are obviously fucking retarded enough you don't understand when you are just trying to force something to be funny now.
Nu-/bbg/ is a mistake
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>>159726832
Damn, I wish I could stop having artificial fun. Thankfully we have fun experts here that can teach us how to do it properly.
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>Bloodborne starts to die early
>/bbg/ has very few old lads left now
>New lads have autism and push the discord meme to the max
>New lads also rarely turn up to FC's
I want the old /bbg/ back before you new faggots turned up and pushed the old blood out
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>>159727171
Everyone who currently browses /bbg/ came when the game or the DLC was released.
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>>159700656
Oh, you're the guy who keeps reposting that Doll line drawing
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>>159727171
Speaking as an old lad, I hate most of the discord fucks too. This place does kinda suck now though. I miss the days before the DLC, back when /bbg/ was still comfy instead of nonstop shitposting.

Kenneth posting gets a giggle out of me, I don't get why people get so assblasted over it.
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>>159727526
Nah I don't hate the discord lot they are old lads themselves. I hate how the thread overreacts to some blatant shitposter that probably got banned from there and now discord has become the new thing everyone points towards when a problem arises.
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>>159727625
>probably got banned from there
He posted yesterday and has been shitposting nonstop for weeks. He's the one who started the dedoposting and Discord drama.
The Kenneth buttblast comes from Discord.
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>>159727772
If he keeps on shitposting why do you fuckers take him seriously and cause drama then for fuck sake stop it.
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>>159727975
I don't, I'm just aware of what's going on.
As long as cancerous tripfags et al post something, someone will always give them the attention they crave.
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>>159727283
hey not me
I bought this game two months ago
I regularly participate in coop and lore discussion

ya nerd
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After beating Rom there's all these spider type creatures hovering over areas where they weren't before (Cathedral Ward etc.) - are these hostile? Will they kill me on sight?

I've just spent ages cleaning up enemies so I can level up and don't want to lose my echoes to something I can't beat...
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>>159731859
No, let them catch you. They'll take you somewhere.
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>>159731859
You've been blessed by a visitation from the godhead, friend. Aren't you a lucky one?

Those are Amygdala, and if you've fully explored and read item text, you may be able to use them to go places you could not otherwise. Also, leave this thread and don't come back until you've finished your first playthrough. Blind is best.
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>>159731972
Alright thanks. You sure? I've got no Blood Vials left and already got caught one before Rom..
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>>159732664
I'm sure.
Will they take you to nice and cozy places though? There's only one way to find out.
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>>159729507
succ
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>>159713768
>98 meme

Anon...
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>>159727772
>>159727975
The guy I think has been falseflagging was banned awhile back.

Please talk about Bloodborne, this metaposting is giving me autism
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can someone help me with FRC Amy, its my first FRC dungeon and i get this asshole. Pass is FRCAMY
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>>159705847
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>>159735162
What's the origin of this meme, I love it, is it a Spurdo thing?
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>>159735340
It's a variation of spurdo
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>>159706091
>removing half the couch

For what purpose?
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>>159736321
whoops that was my cropped version for memes. I thought it looked a bit strange
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>>159716030
Is there some legend for that ? Can make sense of only half of it.

>The difference in Phys damage from 25/25 to 25/12 is about 75, and the Arc damage from 50 to 25 is about 60.
>However, if you want to use tools, convert weapons, or fire the HMLS' beams, you really need the 50 Arc, and that's what I do.
Hmm, I get your point. It's just something inside me that screams when I want to invest 13 points to get a 75 return vs 25 points to get 60 in return. Also no second weapon, I don't want that hidden stamina regen penalty.

>For the R1s, it's 100% phys in both forms, with 50% arc untricked and 70% arc tricked.
So you always deal 100% of the physical in both forms and it's not wasted like with Chikage ?
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>>159705847
>tfw you made that one
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If a weapon has purely physical damage would using bolt/fire paper double the damage if I had high enough Arc?
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>>159738075
Bolt and Fire Paper have no scaling
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>>159705847
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>>159738075
Papers buff by a fixed number. Higher arc won't do anything.

>>159738017
There isn't a stamina regen penalty anymore, for anything. Hasn't been for a while.
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>>159738285
>>159738354
But does the paper's bolt/fire scale with the physical damage at all?
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>>159738684
No scaling at all
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>>159726832
literally every thread has the same 50 images.

go back to your circlejerk if it's so terrible here
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Papa g said Umbasa in the network test, how did they change the lore so fast and still made it god tier?
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>>159741203
Same as how you patch shit out I guess, just overwrite it
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>>159741203
That quote wasn't necessarily meant to be lore relevant
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I honestly really like the Yahar'gul set, lads

Even the hood
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>>159741428
Okay? Who cares, man: you do you. As long as you don't end up stealing my fashion, I couldn't care less about what you like.
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>>159741274
>>159741394
That doesn't make any sense at all, why record that voice line and then just scrap it? especially something as lore heavy as that.
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>>159741428
I want to like it but it only looks good on a character with the smallest possible head size so the hood isn't comically big
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>>159741702
It's just I've always seen people talk smack about it, though, especially the hood. Never got the hate, looks neat, tattered, perfect for a labyrinth-haunting hunter.
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>>159741853
It's not lore heavy at all, just a random easter egg that had no place in the actual game.
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>>159741853
It might have been a leftover from much earlier in development and was meant to be taken out, but somehow got by. Maybe Miyazaki in the end didn't want Bloodborne to tie into the other games, and he found it an unnecessary detail. We really don't have an answer.
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>>159741898
The hood is pretty big, but the helmet by itself I think looks much better. A good alternative is the Madman's Hood.
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>>159738354
>There isn't a stamina regen penalty anymore, for anything. Hasn't been for a while.
Since which patch ? Because it was a hidden penalty in BB.
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>>159742262
One of the fashions I rock is Madman's Hood / Yarhar'gul Black garb / Crowfeather Manchettes / Old Hunter Trousers.

If I ever see you aping my style in a FC i'll not care too much but probably try to kill you like maybe 5% harder than I usually do.
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Does blood letter deal exclusively blood damage while transformed?
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>>159742625
Nah, I sometimes wear Madman's Hood/Yahar'gul Iron Helm, Yahar'gul garb, Charred Hunter Gloves and Yharnam Hunter Trousers, I tend to change out the gloves and trousers a lot for maximum tattered shit look. However, he's my BL240 co-op friendo, I don't FC with him.
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>>159743032
Yes.
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>tfw no black church hood without the hat

Foreigner hood isn't the same
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>>159743032
Yes, it also scales with blt exclusively
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Can I get some help with the Isz Chalice Ebritas? I can get her pretty low, but I fuck up in the end. Password is Dizzy
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>>159743171
Have you tried absolute madman's hood?
The white church hood blends with the scarf/cape thing well too
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>>159743171
>tfw no Black Church Hat without the hood
>tfw no Knight's Hat without the ponytail
>tfw almost every good hat has a facewrap or some other shit

I just want to look dapper, is that really too much to ask?
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>>159743345
Still need help?
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>>159743908
Yep! Want me to bring any NPC's? Theres 3 I could pick from
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>>159744007
Never summon any NPCs. All they do is bloat the boss's health bar.
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>>159744062
Seriously? Shit I had no idea
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>>159744128
Well that was quick
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>>159743908
That was embarrassing, not sure what happened. again please lol
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Post fashion combos, bonus pointos for matching weapons

>Bloodletter
>Yharnam hunter hat
>Butcher chest
>Yahargul gloves
>Butcher legs or Yharnam hunter legs
The bloody apron goes with the Bloodletter nicely
Bonus fashion when drenched in blood

>Burial blade
>old hunter hat
>harrowed chest
>Gascoign gloves
>butcher legs or Yharnam hunter
The bandages and the textures of the harrowed set goes well with the burial blade
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>>159743908
Thanks!
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>>159744781
No problem anon
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>>159744747
>Black Church Hat
>Foreign Garb
>Gascoigne Gloves
>Tomb Prospector Boots
>Reiterpallasch
>Repeating Pistol
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>>159744747
Madman's Hood / Yarhar'gul Black garb / Crowfeather Manchettes / Old Hunter Trousers.

Madman's Hood / Doll garb / Yarhar'gul Black Gloves / Tomb Prospector Trousers.

No Headwear or Prospector's Hood / Gehrman's Hunter Garb / Yarhar'gul Black Gloves / Old Hunter Trousers
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>>159744747
Valtr's brain bucket goes nice with the Crowfeather set.
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>>159745184
>doll garb
Dude way Cool
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>>159744747
>Maria hat
>Knights chest
>foreign legs
>German gloves or knights gloves
+any dapper weapon like reiters
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>page 10
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>>159749552
If you want /bbg/ to die posting here is the last thing you should do.
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>>159749552
We shall not abandon the dream
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Living Failures are kicking my add. Anyone down to help? Ringing by the fog gate, pass is /bbg/.
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>>159749665
you must be new here
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>>159750190
No.
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>>159749552
The day bbg merges with dsg is the day i stop visiting souls generals, until the next game comes out
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>>159750524
what a pathetic ultimatum
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>>159750112
Sure I'll join
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Convince me to buy the DLC.
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>>159751040
You won't stand a chance in FCs without DLC weapons.
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>>159751040
It's alright I guess
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>>159751040
Buy it you piss of shet
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>>159751040
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>>159751113
>>159751115
>>159751157
>>159751256
I just don't want to grind up again on NG+ just to be able to play it without dying all the time, etc.
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>>159751303
Make a new character then you baby.
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>>159751303
>grind up again
you may as well not get the dlc if you have to grind at any point in the game
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>>159750112
Is it all caps and did you include the slash? Also is it world wide?
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>>159751430
No caps, included the slashes, and it is worldwide.
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>>159751303
You will die a couple of times, even on NG. Dying is actually normal in this game I guess
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>>159751364
>>159751374
>>159751552
Fine, but I don't want to replay the whole game again, just to be at a good level to play the DLC.
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>>159751619
cool thanks for letting me know
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>>159751619
Don't buy it then.
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>>159751619
Do it in NG+ and just use all of your echoes leveling up. You should be on a decent level when you kill amelia
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>>159751430
Cheers, mate.
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>>159751864
No need for thanks
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>>159751040
It's fucking great, you dingus, it's actually really fucking good
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>>159752429
>>159751850
>>159751735
Ok, you all win, I'll buy it.
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>>159752793
No, don't buy it. You will regret it. It's too hard for the likes of you.
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>>159750752
Not really, i'd rather not surround myself with people who acutally believe dark souls 2 and 3 are decent games.
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>>159744747
> Top Hat
> Hunter Garb (no cape)
> madman arm wraps
> madman leggings
> Beast Cutter
> Gattling Gun

Combined with a angry looking face it gives a nice "I've been smashing beasts so long my clothes are tattered and I'm PISSED OFF" look.
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> trying to do Lower Pthumuru at level 10 with +6 weapons

Holy fuck this is worse than FRC dungeons. My Viscerals are doing less than 10% of a single Watcher's health bar and all thier attacks one or two shot me.
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>>159744747
>white church hood
>ashen hunter garb
>old hunter gloves
>yharnam hunter trousers

Paired with an untricked HMS, gives a good wandering warrior look. I'm still tweaking it and I wish the white church hood was a little darker, more greyish.
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>>159755478
Farm the layer 2 lever Watcher and you can get 20% phys gems.
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Anyone need some sweet, sweet co-op?
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>>159756357
I know.

I am the original lumpy prospector. I am currently trying to make "The Overpreparer's Guide to Vicar Amelia" in which I do everything that's possible in the game before Vicar Amelia and show off how powerful you can become early game if you try hard enough.

For the video I wanted to level up from 10 to 49 (the highest "acceptable" level to fight Amelia) all at once, because I thought it would be funny to have the exact amount of echo's and go through the doll's initial dialogue (I havnt spoken to her on this character yet) and then level up 39 times.

Lumpy gems are the center peice of the guide since they are so powerful early on, but I can't get to them until I kill the Watcher Trio on layer 1, which is proving nearly impossible. I beat HMPH on layer 2 easily, but the numerical difference between Centeral and Lower Pthumuru is insane. Standard zombies took 2 r1's, now they take 5.
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>excited to fight Maria every playthrough
>she kindly reminds me that she constantly dead angles, activates EMERGENCY POISE, and fucks me in one inescapable combo
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can someone help me with ebriatas please? bl62, password bbg, ringng at fog. I tried summoning damien but he gets stuck on the fog amd wont enter
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>>159759230
On my way, just gotta boot up quick.
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>>159759485
thanks I'll be waiting then
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>>159759230
I'll come along and help if I can
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>>159759485
thanks, much appreciated

>>159759856
we just got him, thanks for the thought though

i love all you guys in the bbg <3
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>doing SRRC co-op
>get summoned into a random world
>guy's name is DEATH in all caps
>full bone ash set
>ludwig's

Fucking love it
>>
old hunters is on sale for $8 in case anyone didn't notice.
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>>159694515
chalice dungeons are the laziest, worst type of game design possible (literally Skyrim tier difficulty) and Bloodborne is overrated
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>>159762220
Good point. I'll never play Bloodborne again.
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>>159762220
wtf I hate Bloodborne now
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>>159762220
YOU RUINED THE GAME FOREVER
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>>159762429
Came here to say this
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>>159738017
Been asleep, but on the off chance you haven't figured it out yet or are still here:

>Is there some legend for that ?
Top two rows are untricked, bottom to rows are tricked. Orange is Blunt damage, blue is Arcane, and green is Thrust. Full legend can be found in the doc here: http://pastebin.com/YnRRZPMp

>It's just something inside me that screams when I want to invest 13 points to get a 75 return vs 25 points to get 60 in return
Look at it like this:
At 25/25 your HMLS' physical damage is going to top out at just about 500. Frankly, that's pretty shit. The best attack will be tour untricked R2, with that hefty 1.8 modifier.
At 25/12, its physical damage is going to cap out around 430, and the untricked R2 will still do great damage.

The arcane on the other hand, apart from being the HMLS' calling card, gets all the biggest modifiers, so it loses out on the most potential damage.

At 25 Arc you're looking at 250 Arc AR. Even with the 2.8 modifiers, that's not great.
However, at 50 Arc you're looking at closer to 310 AR, and then those 2.8 modifiers make a huge difference.
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So I just came back to the game after almost a year.
I'm in the DLC with some alter and there's a hole in a skull, I have no idea what to do or where to go, I can't find anything for it.

Any tips to get me back on track?
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>>159763061
Ah, you didn't pick up the Eye Pendant. Go into the Hunter's Nightmare Grand Cathedral from the first area and grab it, don't worry you don't have to fight that thing yet
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>>159763284
Thanks
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>>159759230
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Anyone want to coop? Bought the DLC and haven't played in 8 months. I just opened up the shortcut in the first area. Now I'm in some blood river with spiders.

Also I'm not very good.
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How many of you here are fucking losers like me and start+finish their builds in one sitting?
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Bloodborne, the single greatest rpg I've ever played
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>>159763959
Don't coop on your first run through the DLC. At least attempt bosses until you've exhausted all hope of beating them yourself before getting help.

Take your time and explore and enjoy it. Anyone you coop with from bbg knows where every enemy, trap and item is, and likely has over powered gems that will trivialise the mobs and bosses. Don't ruin the experience for yourself, it's the best content From has ever made and it would be a shame for some guy with Korean-tier Gems on a Chikage come and obliterate the Challange for you.

Coop is for second, third and forth playthroughs. Not first.
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>>159764197
I do that with every new character I make and then delete it and restart once I notice I fucked up the eye color etc etc.
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>>159763959
I have to agree with >>159764440, only co-op of your shit is getting really pushed in. I mean, you are paying for online so do use it, but first time through, try and solo it, feels fucking great.
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>>159764539
>start latest character last night at 9pm
>finish around 5am
>realize he's way too skinny and his jaw is too wide
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>tfw too prideful to summon
>too much of a nice guy to invade
Why did I buy PS+
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>>159764801
What about co-oping?
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>>159764197
>>159764539
>>159764643
What route do you guys take through the game to save time and by "finish" are you including chalices + gem farming?
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if bloodborne had a rosaria appearance changer npc it would be a perfect game
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>>159764919
I never know who needs help and where.
90% of /bbg/ are masters of PvE and only need help in dungeons, and I fucking despise dungeons.
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>>159764976
no
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>>159765053
>90% of /bbg/ are masters of PvE
No, they just pretend they are.
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>>159765060
oh, you know I never thought about it like that anon but you really persuaded me
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>>159765053
>90% of /bbg/ are masters of PvE and only need help in dungeons, and I fucking despise dungeons.
What are you talking about? At least half of the co-op posts are for non-chalice bosses.
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>>159765271
glad to help
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>>159764946
I "finish" by reaching the Wet Nurse.

I go through the dungeons for gems if I'm for once satisfied with my character.
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I think I may have created the luckiest character ever.

> Keeper in Central Pthunuru drops a Triangle gem
> Maneater Bore in Himtertomb drops a waning
> BSB in Hintertomb drops a Waning
> several offshapes from mobs in both Chalice's.

Hopefully this luck continues when I actually want offshapes.
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>>159764539
Haven't this image, fucken saved
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>>159765741
I always go NG+, it makes it so easy to accumulate echoes for upgrades, random materials and levels.
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I cant handle this election result waiting

LETS DO SOME CO OP
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>>159769131
How about living failures
Pass bbg
Fog wall
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>>159769131
I don't suppose you want to farm for Heavy Abyysals?
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>>159768975
>not slapping on all three Moon runes and continuing on through NG
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>>159768975
>>159769610
>not just doing chalices and having 9 gorillion echoes with nothing to spend them on
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>>159769451
WAAAAAAIIIIIIT FOR ME!

I want to try rapid poison against them.
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>>159769610
>doing chalices
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>>159769678
>>159769451

Did it count?

Also rapid poison wheel VS Living Failures is hilarious overpowered. Every second hit thier health chunked.
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>>159770174
Yeah I got it
I was wondering how the he'll you were doing so much damage
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>>159770591
Maria next?
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>>159769757
Chalices have the best runes though, some weapons are pointless without chalice variants
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> had 200 vials
> and 350 bullets
> Now have 0 of each

Fucking Watchers REEEEEEEEEEE.

I don't care anymore, someone here can kill them for me. Prepare for downscaling though. Pass is bbg. Lower Pthumuru layer 1.
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>>159773191
This
Surely
Has
To
Be
Bait
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>>159773191
Give me a minute to boot up and I'll come by.
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sale habbened

lets welcome the new hunters with kindness and compassion guys
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>>159773251
> this surely has to be bait

Sadly It's not. I'm >>159755478
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>>159773579
ringing at layer 1 lamp
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>>159773409
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>>159773626
Can we try again please?
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I have the things needed to make Isz CFR depth 5. Will this allow me to enter Great Ihyll depth 5 as well using glyphs? Because I only have the ingredients to make one of these two.
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Holy shit, just had my first encounter (s) with Lady Maria. It's all fine and dandy untill she gets her fucking period. Fuck her. I'll be take a couple of more swings at her tommorow.
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>>159773409
>>159773718
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>>159773962
Yes. As long as you've beaten HBLB in Ihyll and made your Isz root, you can access Ihyll glyphs.
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>>159773962
Yes. All you need to enter a glyph is to have the corresponding root chalice in your inventory, and to have made a dungeon of the same depth with the same additional rites.
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>>159773913
that's some mean downscaling
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>>159774214
I died

Ring'ing again.
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>>159774275
Do you guys need a hand Can't believe I'm saying this for depth 1
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>>159774057

You are confusing me. HELP!

>>159774079

This is what I understand from pic related as well. I only need to make one CFR depth 5 dungeon, which will allow me access to every other dungeon using glyphs. Thanks.
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>>159774275
ringing
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>>159774458
Depth 3, not 1. My bad. Either way, gonna ring
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>>159774458
It's depth 3.
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>>159774467
The 'as long as you killed HBLB' thing is because HBLB drops the Ihyll Root chalice.
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>>159774458
It's depth 3, I'm not a complete pleb.

And yes, send all the help you have. This is like fighting FRC Watchers with no gems.
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>>159774643
Alright, ringing at lamp
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What is the best all around build for getting the most out of the Wheel both tricked and untricked?
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>tfw can't find a good pair of gloves/trousers to pair with student coat
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>>159705847
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>>159705847
I don't remember why I made this but it must've been funny at the time for some reason.
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>>159774590

My bad, you are right. Like I said, this stuff is like Asian esoteric philosophy, only even more complex. Mind blown.

Jezus Christ, so much more farming to do to get that root chalice, too. Kill me now.
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>>159774898
50 STR and 50 ARC

Or if you care about level meta's 25/50
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>>159774898
25/50 for Nourishings, or 50/10+ so you could have a Blunt Wheel and Flat Arcane Wheel.
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Watchers anon, I think I'll go reset my shit. It shouldn't be taking this long to find you when I'm in the chalice. If the other guys there, go for the boss and I'll rering soon.
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>>159775508
That's what we've been doing.

I need to farm more vials/bullets though. So I'll quickly run central Yharnam route.
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>>159775643
Well, reset and reringing. No rush if you're still farming.
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>>159775808
Finished farming.

Ringing now
>>
WE DID IT!

thank you brave Anons, we defeated the Meriless Watchers of perpetual downscaling.
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>>159776412
There was downscaling? :^) Also no problem.
>>
> final beat Watchers with help of two summons
> time to farm Lumpy!
> my Visceral does fucking nothing and he one-shots me

This whole ordeal was a mistake.
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>>159777282
>farming gems at level 10
but
why
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>>159777282
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>>159777394
All is explained here >>159758149
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Laurence anyone? Ringing at fog, inside the doors
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>>159777890
Yeah ok. Gimme a sec to change character.
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>>159777890
Ops, pass bbg
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>>159777890
As long as there's room for another, I'd love to join in.
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>>159778081

Ringing and waiting.

internet might have some issues thigh, seems like my posts are taking a bit to go through.
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>>159778081
>>159777937

Thanks for coming friends.
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>page 10

/dsg/-merger when?
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>>159779561
Literally never.

We'll either die or live forever. Merging is not an option.
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>>159779561
Probably some time after DS3's last DLC is out and they start losing activity too.
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Post cuties
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>>159780335
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>these fucking election results

I can't sleep like this

WHO ELSE UP FOR MORE CO OP
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>>159780335
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>>159780645
People keep acting like it's a fucking apocalypse, nothing will change. The President doesn't have some kind of supreme executive tyrant power, they can't just will stuff to happen. Other systems exist filled with people unfriendly not only to the president but to each other to stop that from happening. Yeah, maybe they are all corrupt, big money sociopaths, but the important detail is they don't like each other.

People are blowing this up into IF X CANDIDATE WINS I AM LEAVING THE COUNTRY I LITERALLY CAN'T EVEN IT'S THE APOCALYPSE OMG Yeah it's an actual serious decision and neither candidate ought to be in the race as one is wholly unqualified and severely divisive and the other is a straight up criminal, potential murderer and human trafficker, but for fuck's sake it's not like if either one gets in, come sunrise, the jackboots march and the bombs go off. This overreaction is fucking insane.
>>
Ringing for NG+ Amelia if anyone's interested

Outside fog, pass bbg
>>
How do I know I completed a Chalice Dungeon?
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>>159781552
when you have no where else to go
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>>159781552
Chalice dungeons typically have three to four layers. You know you're done when there's no path after a bossroom.
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>>159780335
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Good night, good hunters.

May you find your worth in the waking world.
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http://www.strawpoll.me/11599919/

vote if you haven't.
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>>159782627
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>>159782758
>Still no 'Saturday's forever until the heat death of the universe or until i kill myself whichever comes first' option

Shit poll.
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>>159782758
Proud autist
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>>159782758
>implying anyone here actually plays bb anymore
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>>159780335
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>>159782437
Now this is just messed up.
>>159782627
I'll try my best, Doll. You keep sucking up my Blood Echoes and make me stronger.
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>>159780335
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>>159782930
I'm playing right now.
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>>159783171
Prove it.
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LOOK MASTER, I'VE DONE IT
I'VE POUNDED AND GROUNDED THIS ROTTEN SIREN INTO FLESHY PINK PULP
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>>159784559
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Has anyone got the 100 page BB lore google doc link? I was reading it to finally get a grip on everything and I think I forgot to bookmark it and I can't find it in history
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>>159784934
No, but it's called the Paleblood Hunt

Google it or somesuch
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>>159785053
Legend, ta
>>
anyone need any help
>>
>>159785334
Up for helping a bl50 with ludwig?
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>>159786092
Not him, but mind if I join?
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>>159786154
Sure, pass is bbg
I'll ring at the lamp
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>>159786324
Thanks, m8
I'll go ring
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>>159786324
ringing
>>
are you getting anyone?
>>
>>159786817
We just got him, though I'm gonna try to get to maria if you're up for it.
I'll ring at the church ladies if so.
Btw thanks, Segalt.
>>
this is perhaps the 10th time of /bbg/ cucking me
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>>159787171
You get used to it
>>
>>159787171
I'm sorry
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>>159787171
welcome to nu-/bbg/

These thingms were never a problem before the discord split
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>>159787171
>10 times
you haven't been here long enough to whine yet
you weren't here when master cuckolder Hibiki was at his prime
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>>159787335
>The Discord doesn't play BB
>They steal all our co-op

You're contradicting your own shitposting.

Also, this has literally always happened. Like forever. Blame the 2 phantom limit and silent confederates like Hibiki.
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>>159787706
>Blame the 2 phantom limit

Yeah, everything would be WAY better if you could have 3+ summons.
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>>159787706
this has nothing to do with shitposting

when the discord was made all the good players went there and stayed, so you got left with the shitheads who wait for one phantom to pop in then dash for the boss.
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>>159787901
I still don't think it's any more of an issue than it's always been, but maybe im the bull in the situation, who fucking knows.
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What is the best 2-handed weapon?
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>>159788269
Bloodletter.
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>>159788269
Rifle Spear
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>>159788269
Ludwig's Holy Blade
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>>159788269
WHEEL
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>>159788269
Rakuyo
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how does arcane scaling work (on blades of mercy)?
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>>159788529
Poorly.
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>>159788529
Garbage. Completely ignore the arc scaling on BoM. Burial Blade and Amy Arm also applies.
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ey lads, just made a pretty nice FRC Ihyll.

7xrsw8vf

Highlights
Lost Wheel
Blood Rock(In the large preboss level 3 bonus area I'm afraid)

Way too many fucking Hemwitches but apart from 1 room where they're guarding Yellow Backbones you can run past em all as usual

There's a lot of Yellow Backbones and Red Jelly in chests, which is nice.

But the real appeal I think is the layer 3 (disclaimer- may have mentally combined layers 2 and 3).

There's an elevator room with 6, SIX, Fireball ritekeepers!

There's a Keeper of the old lords and her damn hellhounds camping a staircase!

There's a swamp with 3 sickle giants standing in oil... and if you go through two bagmen, there's a Beast Possessed Soul you can lure to the rumble!

On layer 2 you can have a Beast Possessed Soul fight spiders for you!

1st boss is just a beast possessed soul
2nd boss is watchers
3rd boss is headless bloodletting beast, and I'm fighting it now so i dunno if there's a 4th layer
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>>159788529
BoM has base 60 Arc damage, and scaling of .69.

The low base damage really isn't going to net you any big numbers. Don't bother with the Arcane on that weapon.

Same goes for BB.
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>>159788529
Short answer: It doesn't.

Long answer: The base arc damage on the Blade of Mercy is so pitifully low that no amount of stat investment will make up for it, and since it's split damage you can't even use gems to make it better. It's a skill weapon that happens to have a little bit of arc damage because muh lore.
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Good. All signed and sealed.
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>>159789404
Oh, don't you worry. Whatever happens... You may think it all a mere bad dream...
>>
Anyone have a map of all the weapons, shards, and other must-grabs for each area?

Specifically Central/Old Yharnam right now.
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>>159790038
I have a map in my head.
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>>159790038
>implying you need shards
>implying you're going to use those weapons
just faff about in chalice dungeons
j
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>>159790102
From Yharnam Girl's door how do I get to the hunter's set?
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Is ANYONE besides me still awake?
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Can I get some help with the Defiled hotdog? This boss is one of the worst in the game. Pass is Dizzy
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>>159792260
No.
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>>159792260
>Waking up
>Forgetting everything

Beastly idiot.
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>killing Arianna's monster child will always kill her, no matter what

why
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>>159787359
i know madman jenkins tho i perheps misspelled his name
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so im about to fight rom the centipede, i hear thats a major turning point in the game and a marker for alot of missables

what all should i make sure i dont miss before fighting him?
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>>159792506
Because Grimdark
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394,680.

That is how many blood echoes you get for defeating the Moon Presence with all three Moon runes on.
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>>159792312
>This boss is one of the worst in the game.
not even close
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4chan died for a while there
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>>159793535
All the election traffic put the servers into heart attack mode
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>>159790381
through the gate you open, head up the stairs to your left, then up the stairs further ahead until you get to the top of the bridge with the two werewolves
then you head down the stairs opposite where you came from, leading to a pretty empty landing with a couple of items to pick up
there's a nook to your left when you arrive in that area with boxes and shit you can break to reveal a further hidden nook that has ladders leading down to a sewer-ish area with greater beastmen and some crows I think
Hunter's Set is at the end of this area, guarded by a greater beastman
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>>159793535
>>159793668
feels like it still is- can't post without getting an "error" and refreshing the page
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>only one more day until I can finally play Bloodborne

I can't fucking wait, lads
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Anyone farming, spelunking, etc.?

(Second attempt. Sorry if it winds up double posting)
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I want to make a fire-heavy character and I've many questions that aren't satisfactorily answered by the pastebins:

1. Should I use fire gems or just fire paper for scaling when it comes to Kirkhammer and/or Ludwig's Blade damage? I don't want the STR scaling to be completely removed, but I don't want subpar ARC scaling either.

2. Besides fire blood gems, torches, Boomhammer and molitovs, are there any other fire-based weaponry?

3. How does stat scaling work with fire/arc?

the most immediate question:
Which is better, gems or fire paper?

>>159793991
just post PSN there is no way we can actually talk here in these conditions

mine is meowreka
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>>159784658
>implying Trump isn't the biggest weeb of them all
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>>159794072
>1. Should I use fire gems or just fire paper for scaling when it comes to Kirkhammer and/or Ludwig's Blade damage? I don't want the STR scaling to be completely removed, but I don't want subpar ARC scaling either.
The only way to have Fire damage but retain Strength Scaling is to use Fire Paper.

>2. Besides fire blood gems, torches, Boomhammer and molitovs, are there any other fire-based weaponry?
Nothing comes to mind.

>3. How does stat scaling work with fire/arc?
The same way it does with other stats: Your weapon has a set percentage of Arcane scaling, represented in-game as a letter, although you can find the exact number in the doc in the OP.

When you convert a weapon to elemental damage, that number and the saturation number based on your Arcane attribute are used in place of physical attributes.

>Which is better, gems or fire paper?
For targeting elemental weakness, nothing is better than pure elemental damage.

In terms of efficacy as a whole, phys + Beast Blood Pellets + Paper is better.
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>>159703663

>people who just spam shots

I'll never understand the mentality.
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>>159794072
Just do 25/50 Str/Arc for the Boomhammer and fire converted weapons. Molotovs scale with Arcane and enemies usually have lower elemental defenses especially for fire (Logarius and gels are exceptions). Nourishing gems on the Boomi, 1 or 2 Cold Abyssals and Hotdog Abyssals or 27.2% Fire Triangles from Watchers. Ludwig Blade probably gets more from a 23.1%+15 Fire Radial from Bone Ash Hunters over another Cold Abyssal due to the already high scaling. Fire Paper won't be usable, only for pure physical builds/weapons.
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anyone wanna help with NG blood starved beast?

pw is nyanpasu
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>>159794401
They know they're at a disadvantage and think "If I can just get one visceral attack..." but don't really think beyond that and keep spamming boolets
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Can I get some help with the Beast-Possessed Soul in Layer 1 of 8usmn42r?
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>>159795829
Pungent Blood Cocktails help.
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>BL98
>Just wanna run some co-op
>Can't find it anywhere

This is killing me. The only hit I'm getting is this one retard in Hunter's Nightmare who keeps summoning Valtr for Laurence.
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>>159797472
I'd tell you to try the SRRC but that's 90% Central-Defiled Pthumeru.
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>>159797594
>People only summon for the boring chalices
>Never for Depth 5 Fixed or Root

I think I will try SRRC and just Blank Out when I see familiar chalice layouts like Defiled Hotdog and Amy.

It's funny too because I wouldn't mind killing those, my character is amazing at killing them. Chalice Gemmed STR/ARC Hybrid with Hunter Tool+Amygdalan Arm. But the host will never be gud enough. They always die.
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My Skill build is maxed out at 96 but now I want to pump BT to 25 so I can use Bowblade and get some damage from Blunderbuss. Shud I do it?
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>>159798017
I don't know if 25-Blt Bowblade is worth it; the arrows are only going to get about 500 AR.
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>>159798227
It's worthwhile in PVE.
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>>159694515
Guys, I made this a few months ago and I don't see it getting posted. Why?
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I want to fuck this sneaky loli so badly.
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Kosmo
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I knew most of /bbg/ was gayer than fuck but I didn't expect Trump winning to completely silence the place.
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>>159803182
it's a weekday morning
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>>159803242
It's been busy as fuck the last couple days, weeks. We went from something like a general a week to two generals a day. It's definitely quieter this morning than it has been.
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>>159803338
I guess people are out celebrating our new smug frog president
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>>159797472
Stand and ring outside Ludwig's and Orphan's fog gates.
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tfw you're so zoned you shoot before locking on and it works
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>>159793253
What's worse than defiled hotdog? I'd really like to know. First, defiled is by definition artificial difficulty. Second, the boss is cheesy as fuck with a one shot charge that can hit you even while standing to the side. Explosion when recovering. Animation cancelling out of attacks (didn't save them, but webms were posted here last week). Chainable combos that can be added to at a whim. A gay as fuck swipe with flame shooting out to catch you even if you dodged.

It's a cheesy boss made worse by the defiled meme.
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>>159803338
This is /bbg/ without rampant shitposting. I'm glad we have it back.
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>>159807260
Don't jinx it.
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>>159806729
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>>159803562
I don't think you understand what I want.
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>>159807260
Aaaand just like that >>159807482 ends it with a smug anime face and no retort.
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Anyone need some co-op? Bosses, chalices, areas?
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What's the deal with boss fog glitching out in SRRC? I've been doing random co-op and twice now I've been unable to go through fog. Once the actual door to the bossroom was closed and it kept telling me only the beckoner could open it and just now I had no prompt to pass through the fog. Never had this before, what's the deal?
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>>159806729
Defiled Hotdog is piss ez, one of the easiest bosses in my BL4 run to be honest. The curse effect is pretty bs but doesn't matter when you could easily beat him without getting hit. Charge and explosions are predictable, just dodge to the side or into the fire swipes, and you could bait single headswipes without triggering combos. He could animation cancel but you could distance yourself to not get hit by them and they're pretty rare.
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>>159801756
No
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>Doing random co-op
>Guy messages me after saying "Bro your awesome can you help me get like that im lvl 119"
I'm not sure if this guy is asking me to help him farm gems. By the sound of it, he probably doesn't even know what gems and FRC dungeons are
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>>159811841
patches__ soon
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>>159815929
Just tell him it's Mensis or Hamlet gems, don't even bring up FRC dungeons
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>>159816409
>forgot to spoiler image

Throw yourself to the wolves.
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>>159816409
>Patch 1.10 never
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On an ARC/STR build, would the Steak Dinner be a good Kin hunting weapon if I converted it's damage to bolt?
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>>159817835
no
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>>159817960
If not, then what would be?

I would experiment myself but I don't feel like grinding for blood chunks.
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>>159818108
bolt saif or another bolt saw spear
thrust damage doesn't stack with bolt
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Anyone wanna farm heavy abyssal gems, im at 3rd boss and currently save scumming.
Pass is 'beast'
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>>159818336
Kosm I forgot about that.
Thanks.
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>>159818336
They're not strength though
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>>159818670
he wants to make a bolt weapon you dumb fuck
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>>159818834
He said ARC/STR, you gave him skill weapons
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>>159818872
THE BEST ANTI KIN STR/ARC WEP IS TONITRUS

OBVIOUSLY.
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RAPE HORSE IS RAPING ME! HOW THE FUCK DO I RAPE HIM BACK!?
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>>159819479
Beast Blood Pellets
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>>159819479
1) SUMMON VALTR HE'S BY THE CROWS IF YOU HAVE THE IMPURITY RUNE EQUIPPED
2) FIRE PAPER AND SAW WEAPON
3) SUMMON A /BBG/ FRIEND
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Does the eye rune increase gem drop rate?
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>>159819651
Just item drop rate, not the actual quality.
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This thread feels slower than the ones recently, why?
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>>159820152
Less shitposting and no FC drama.
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>>159818486
A-anyone? This is my least favorite boss
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>>159820372

Chalice Dungeon was a mistake
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>>159819578
HOLY SHIT ANON! VALTR IS A FUCKING BOSS! THANK YOU!
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>>159819479
1St or 2nd form? If 2nd, then I am ashames of you.
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>>159821003
It was first form second form is easy as pie
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>>159821352
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>>159821192
Good.
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>>159820372
Get used to fighting him on your own if you want to make farming easier on yourself, it saves a bunch of time once you can kill him without vials.
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>>159820586
GLAD YOU GOT HIM M8
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Daily reminder
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>>159824496
D-delete this, Dollfu is a pure princess
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>invade someone at burger king
>three people
>two r1 mashers
>pistol spamming host
> kill all three because I'm a chikage twink

The joy of pvp in this game.
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>>159807260
You jinxed it.

>>159817835
Stake Driver is a fine weapon for conversion.
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>>159827095
You shush, the thread's fine
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How do we make the Rifle Spear good?
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>>159830321
Change the goddamn description that calls it the only trick weapon with an attached gun
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>>159830321
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wBbfiB0JSeI

It's fine
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>>159788269
scythe
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>>159830321
Make its gunshots come out at the same speed as any other gun or the reiter atleast
All offhand guns fire at the exact same speed, their rate of fire is slowed by the recoil animation, piercing rifle has more recoil than blunderbuss but the first shot will always come out at the same speed as anything else
But for some fucking reason the rifle spear has a delayed first shot but little recoil, it has higher rate of fire than most guns but the first shot comes out slightly slower than every other gun in the game so it has a kind of "unique" parry timing and it's enough to fuck you over if you're used to using any other gun
I hate it so much for that
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Is Ebritas the maiden weeping when you use the rosmarinus?
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>>159830698
That's from before it was nerfed
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>>159830504
It's the only trick weapon made by a Hunter workshop that has gun attached.
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>BB Complete Edition on sale

The new blood better Fear the Old Blood amirite? XD
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>>159708017
>toasty when you wake up
I do that but end up shivering in pain when I wake
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Even in this darkest of nights, I see... the moonlight...

;_;7
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>>159834021
Ludwig literally did nothing wrong

If you choose 'no' you're no better than a beast
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Most of the time I just run over and attack him.
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>>159834319
Reported.
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>ring co op bell as i run through yar har gool
>everyone i get summoned for dies instantly to one reborn
how
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>Sony releases 10 year anniversary PSN theme
>one of the background images is Bloodborne
>it has a caption reading 'That night I couldn't sleep'

WHAT DOES IT MEAN
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>>159834180
I don't give a shit about what the church did, Ludwig deserves just a little bit of happiness in his final moments.
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>>159834319
Fucking disgusting.
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>>159834180
>>159834489
This, Ludwig was a poor tortured soul.

what did he mean by the "strand of light" or whatever?
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>>159834319
Based
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>>159834319
Come to Frontier, so that I can put you down, you filthy waste of space
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>>159835039
You mean like the way I just put down Bitch-wig?
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>>159834832
>what did he mean by the "strand of light" or whatever?

My guess is it's the light from the blade that he focused on while beast hunting, the thing that kept him going for so long until his beasthood popped and became rapehorse.

Do we even know the origin of the blade in the game? I've been assuming it's a Pthumerian relic.
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Anyone want to kill Ludwig with me? I promise to make him feel good about himself prior to mercy killing him.
>>
killme
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>>159836152
The Daughter of the Cosmos probably gave it to him. He was a higher up in the Church, and who knows how long the Choir has existed.
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>>159834832
His Thread of Light was probably the Guidance rune. You know, his guiding moonlight?

It's very likely closely related to the messengers as well, as they're described as 'tiny beings of light,' and the shape of the rune is very messenger esque
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>>159836201
BL?
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>>159836530
57, but I'm somewhat gimped by this arc build
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>>159798298
>>159798017
As a bowblade user, I can tell you it's not fucking worth it.

Charged R2s are your only source of reasonable damage, and that takes you too far out of the fight for too long, not to mention you can only hit one opponent with it EVER.

If you have the right runes equipped you can make R1 arrow spam last for the first half of an area, but unless you get the hardcap for BLT your R1 damage is going to be absolutely miserable and you'll just be using the sword form anyway.

Either go max bloodtinge or don't bother.
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>>159836619
>57, but I'm somewhat gimped
Nigga you're gimped by being BL57 lol.

But yeah, I'm down. Set a pass and I'll be over shortly.
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>>159836738
Hah, maybe I should level some more. My damage is bad.

Valtr or no? Pass is bbg.
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Any good pvp areas for those around level 110? Mergo's loft is too quiet now.
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>>159836642
I run 40/40 Chikage / Bowblade and it's alright.

Chikage is reliable enough to use for most PvE and PvP, and the Bowblade is a good offhand for both as well. I don't recommend the build, because while it's alright it'd be better served as a pure 'tinge build instead because untricked Chikage is useless aside for 2 moves, and the bowblade sword is okay at best. But, if you're dead set on wanting to use the bowblade fully, there are worse fates.
>>
>>159836923
Frontier
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>>159836824
He's possible at BL57 (I mean technically he's possible at any BL), but man he's definitely a lot tougher than he needs to be.

We can try with Valtyr if you like, but I doubt he'll help much.
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>>159836923
It may just be the time of day. I usually get somewhat frequent activity in Mergo's.

Try Frontier as well. DLC areas are good in general, but they're more invasions than PVP duels, if that's what you're looking for.
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>>159836997
Yeah, I'm getting shat on. Think I'll go do cainhurst first.
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>>159837374
Alrighty. (If you just ran it with someone, that wasn't me)
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Bloodtinge build is a fucking joke and anyone who says otherwise is trying to sell you something.
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>>159837736
>Madaras Whistle
>Bowblade

Nah I think you're just garbage and don't know what a Bloodtinge build is.

Post stats and gems.
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>>159837736
Bloodtinge is only good for dual wielding Reiter and Evelyn, that's fun as shit
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>>159837825
I'm not talking about the bloodletter or the chikage here and you should fucking know that SINCE I'M NOT FUCKING USING THEM
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>>159838079
>BUILD IS A MEME GUYS
>But you're using a skill weapon and not a bloodtinge weapon
>BUILDS SHIT

Neck yourself.
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>>159838138
>he thinks Bow scales with Skill
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>>159838280
>he thinks the Blade scales with Bloodtinge
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>he hoped the shitposting was over
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>>159838461
It's the only thing that keeps us alive. I don't know if that's good or bad anymore.
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>>159838413
>he thinks I was using the blade form
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>>159837736
>gif
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>>159838941
I don't bother with 4chan webms because you don't allow audio and the file size is for ants
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>>159838461
This really isn't shitposting
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>>159837736
>says bloodtinge builds suck
>implying bloodtinge/strength builds suck
You've gotta be joking. Nothing makes me happier than seeing all these little shitters with chikages and axes act all cocky at first and then shit their pants when they witness a blue-skinned man stab himself with a crude mace made of bed parts and pull a ginormous spiked tumor from his chest.
>>
Any idea how I should spread out my stats for an arcane build?
Should I go for the 99 arcane meme? I plan to hit BL 116
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>>159840797
Start with Cruel Fate, either 40/90 Vit/Arc (116) or 30/99 (115).
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>>159840797
Don't go for the 99 Arc meme. The idea of being a glass cannon is far diminished when you're fragile as a butterfly and still only hit about as hard as everyone else.
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I can't fucking beat Bloodlettling cunt. The camera is worse than Loran Darkbeast and I can almost never hit him in time.
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>>159838042
There really need to be a handful more hunters tools that are BT based.
>Patch 1.10 never
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>>159842297
Stay outside and behind his left foot.
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>>159842297
Play unlocked for most of the fight.
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>>159832362
No. It's not.
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>>159843458
>>159843053
I still can't fucking beat him, the fight is taking more than 10 minutes with all my blood vials. I swear im fucking dodging every attack but he keeps getting a hit in every once in a while. Fuck this boss' hitboxes
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>>159843829
BL? I can probably step in and help.
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>>159843980
116
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>>159844036
Alright yeah I can help if you want. Didn't want to get downscaled into oblivion.

Set a pass and I'll fire up the SRRC.
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>>159844120
Pass is bbg
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>>159844269
Searching. Please wait by the Lamp, if you would. Helps the SRRC find you.
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>>159844318
W-was that you I just killed? Someone invaded me
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>>159844476
Hah, I guess it was. Should have BSE'd instead of going for an R1 after I got that interrupt. Oh well.
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>>159844851
I guess im not getting help
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Hey guys if anyone could help me with undead giant I'd appreciate it! Pass is bbg.
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>>159845213
Wow, he fucking crossmapped me
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>>159845628
which one?
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>>159845628
Git gud like me.
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>>159845723
Lower pthumerian. Last phase us giving me shit .
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Does anyone know how much stamina I need to use 2 charged R2 in succession with HMS and have some leftover. 20% stamina rune equipped of course
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>>159845914
Ringing now
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>>159845667
Looks like Im never going to beat this boss again. Im getting phantom slapped from across the goddamn arena.
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Thanks fagtron, you made quick work! I am grateful.
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>>159846260
Fire Steak plus Oil Urns makes for quick work of pretty much anything. Happy I could help!

>>159846227
More than 20 end will give you, because that's what I have and I still don't have enough to get the followup and still have leftover.
>>
ATTENTION: PUBLIC SERVICE ANNOUNCMENT


Lumpy 2.0 has been discovered in Lower Hintertomb. Triangle Cursed Physical gems as early as you care to reach Hintertomb.

Madmen with flaming weapons drop cursed gems with double secondary effects. I think they go up 16% (ish) and +15 flat. There is one such madman in the pre-boss bonus area of Layer 1 Lower Hinteromb, super easy to farm. I've named him Clarence, but any better name suggestions are welcome.

C-man and The Lump can offer you a total of +56% +15 flat physical damage BEFORE VICAR AMELIA.
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>>159849551
Hintertomb before Amelia? Madness.
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I need a build that will make me enjoy playing Bloodborne again, make suggestions.
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>>159705847
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Ive been getting HP depletion curse all night from heavy abyssal drops. Fucking hate farming the shittiest boss
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>>159850172
What builds have you already tried and how high do you intend to level?
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>>159851018
STR and BLT build so far

I refuse to use kitanas and skill doesn't seem to lead me to any fun weapons.
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>>159851242
Skill has a couple of fun weapons, Church Pick, Burial Blade, Saif, etc. Either a Str/Arc or Pure Arcane build are fun choices. Cruel Fate: 40/12/10/9/5/50 is a good base to start with. After that you could choose to Pump Strength and a bit into Skill or Arcane.
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Anyone wanna help me with Defiled Hotdog? Password is Dizzy
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>>159851539
I'll go
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>>159851648
Much appreciated! Want to help with D Amy in a few minutes?
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>>159852314
Yeah sure
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>>159852385
Okay, I am at Amy, ready for you
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>>159852385
How the fuck do you survive Amy's jump
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>>159852812
Lots of HP
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>>159852812
Stand still or keep away when the aggro is on someone else.
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Is overleveling a problem in bloodborne? I'm not saying the game is too easy but I just beat rom and had almost no issues, just like every boss so far except for blood starved beast. I tried doing the first 2 chalice dungeons and everything still dies too fast, I feel like I do way too much damage.

The game is still really fun though, but maybe i'm expecting the game to be dark souls level of difficulty.
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>>159852812
>>159852983

Burn the timing into your mind. I also heard there's a way to move so it doesn't hit you. I think you're supposed to stand somehwere relative the pre-jump position so that it misses when it lands.

Seriously. It's like Paarl/Loran Beast's explosion. Always the same and totally muscle memory compatible.
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>>159852812
Git gud and don't get landed on.
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>>159853283
>Complete stuff meant for early game when nearly endgame
>Get confused when it's easy

nobody to blame but yourself for ignoring the chalices until now.
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>>159852385
Thanks again! I was clenching so hard near the end. Sorry if I didn't pull my weight, I was terrified of dying
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>>159853283
Early dungeons are easy, they'll get harder eventually. Rom is an easy boss if you know how to deal with the spiders. Not much else after is difficult, but the DLC is pretty challenging. Overleveling only matters if you plan to Co-op/PvP within a certain meta.
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>>159853361
But even the main game is easy. Like I said I just beat rom, and on my first try too.

But you're right, I probably did hold off the chalice dungeons for too long. I didn't know they were meant for early game though.
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>>159853392
Yeah no problem!
It can be a bit difficult with more than one person but we got it
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>>159853437
>You get the first chalice right after BSB
It's pretty obvious anon.

>But even the main game is easy.
Because you're probably a combination of "gud" and overleveled. Anyways, Depth 4/5 Chalices are endgame and or harder than NG+ tier. Especially Root Dungeons with all Rituals active.

FRC Depth 5 Root Chalice is the hardest thing in Souls. No debate to be had.


btw DaS1 is the easiest of the whole series, not sure why you held it up as an example of difficulty.
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>>159853545
Because ds1 was the first game I played from the series and it kicked my ass since I had no idea how to do anything. I'm now playing BB after beating DS1, 2, and 3 so I guess I just know what to expect.
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>>159849551
I like clarence tBh
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Anyone here familiar with speedrunning tech?

I just saw a guy get Saw Cleaver and Threaded Cane from the Messengers during his first trip to the Dream, and he always activates the Hunter Sign after using a consumable Blood item or Umbilical Chord.
How and why?
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>>159854519
link?
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>>159854519
what if pro speedrunners are just doing that shit to fuck with you?
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>have to get to the end of the game to use the Burial Blade
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>>159792767
anyone care to answer this
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>>159860223
Lower Loran, anon. It's the best version of the weapon, too.
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>>159860494
Send all NPCs to wherever you want them to be, particularly Arianna to the Cathedral Ward unless you plan to get a cord from Iosekfa instead.

Go visit the Gaol and do Darkbeast too.
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>>159860494
There's a pic in the OP you could check.
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>thinking there's a better boss than Ludwig in ANY game
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>>159861649
I enjoy Orphan more for the music, atmosphere, and the setting, specifically in the first phase.

I think Ludwig's first phase is incredibly fun, but his second phase not nearly as much, though the music is great.
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>>159861729

I feel the same way about the Orphan, actually. I like the first phase waaaay more than the second when he goes into tantrum mode.

I just think Ludwig is the best ever in terms of design, lore, and the insanity of his second form both because of the total swerve in the cutscene, and the total change-up of his moveset.
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>>159860776
ariannas there, i am also waiting to fight Iosefka to get her cord as well. what am i missing by doing both these things?

>>159860786
everytime i try navigating these info heavy OPs i get no information and only more questions.
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>>159861857
You could kill Iosefka before the blood moon to get a rune. Oedon Writhe, I think.

>>159861840
I get what you mean, anon. Ludwig in general is an amazingly designed boss. The introduction to the second phase was incredible, and in terms of lore and mechanics, it was well done how we were able to fight two different things, basically, in the same battle.
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Did anyone ever find guidance tier 3? Or did they really forget to patch it in?
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>>159861857
It's in the Imgur links, not pastebins.

http://imgur.com/a/o8RYU
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Pragmatically speaking, the only reason to keep the slut, the nun, and the biggot alive until post-Nurse is their dialogue and/or Blood, right?
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>>159862640
you have to keep Arianna alive until post Micalosh for the Umbilical cord.
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Not that anyone cares, but Clarence the Chest Guardian can drop 16.5% Physical gems with +14.9 flat secondary.
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>>159863108
I care. Thanks for the info.
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>>159862746
Ah, right. Thanks.

>>159863108
I care. I would have cared more when I did my in-depth run a couple weeks ago, but, it is interesting.
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>>159863130
>>159863108
>>159863145

Also farming him is 100% risk free. You can run to the treasure room not really agroing anytging, and if you sneak to the very right (hugging the wall) he won't see you, allowing chain backstab kill.

I'm level 10 and I can kill him with Charged R2, Visceral, Charged R2, Visceral.

So far only effects are Physical and Slow Poison, secondaries are Flat Phys, both types of poison and +9% Phys on low health.
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>Want to play BB
>Played it to death and can't think of anything new to do
>Decide not to play BB
>Pop in Battlefield 4
>Get rekt because rusty
>Hit a stride and do gud
>Don't want to play anymore
>Want to play BB
>Played it to death and can't think of anything new to do
>Decide not to play BB
>Don't want to play anything else
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I think I have it.

This combined with two 20.3% Lumpy gems slotted into an +6 Uncanny Saw Cleaver is probably the best possible setup you can have to kill Amelia with.
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>>159863779
These are almost Mensis tier gems. They drop from an early CD? If so, which one?
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>>159864259
Lower Hintertomb layer 1 pre-boss bonus room.

Starting from layer 1 lamp sprint forwards through gate (navigating around pressure plates) and turn left into bonus area. Climb the ladder and sprint forwards, ignore the spider and go down the stairs. Keep running and turn right in the next room (there's a skinny zombie and a ghost who won't bother you).

Now you are in the treasure room. There's a Zombie to the right who's easy to kill. Guarding the chest is Clarence, a flaming-weapon madman. After dispatching the zombie, walk (DO NOT RUN) around the right side of the room, as far right as you can, so far right the Nazi's give you funny looks, and creep along to the back of the room. Now you are behind Clarence and make sure you have a weapon with a quick Charge R2. Backstab him and visceral, then walk forward and charged R2 again as Clarence gets up, visceral him again.

Risk free gem farming for better-than-Mensis Triangles pre-Amelia. The 20.3% radials come from Lumpy the lever Guardian on layer 2 of Lower Pthumuru. I reached both guys at level 10 and only summoned for help once.
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If you die in the dream do you die in the waking world?
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>>159864730
This is ridiculous. Great find, my dude. If this information were to fall into the wrong hands, think of the twinking possibilities. Thankfully, there's no one in this thread who would abuse this.
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>>159864957
No
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>>159864730
Wasn't there a flaming-scythe Madman around Hintertomb who could drop Cursed Fire gems?
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>>159864957
You might already be dead in the waking world, as a matter of fact. Look at Micolash: still alive in the nightmare, but his body is clearly dead in Yahar'gul. We can assume similar fates with Gehrman and Laurence.

As to your question, a hunter dies permanently when they no longer dream. We learn this from Djura and Eileen. What exactly dreaming entails isn't fully explained though. Do hunters themselves choose to dream? Is it something they can gain or lose, or do they give it up freely?
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>>159865152
>You might already be dead in the waking world, as a matter of fact
Uh, no. One of the endings is waking up and resuming your normal life, AFTER Gehrman kills you in the Dream.
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>>159865217
No, I didn't mean OUR hunter, just that someone in general might be dead in the waking world and alive in a dream or nightmare.
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>>159865104
no, that's the Flaming-weapon skinny dudes in any chalice dungeon.

Sadly they are classified as "shit tier enemies" by the game and have gimped gem stats that offsets the boost that comes from being cursed. Non-Cursed Hotdog gems beats them out iirc (but if you arnt autistic enough to find a depth 3 layer 3 Hotdog glyph they do nicely for Radials and Triangles)

You can get 16.5% fire damage but they come with no secondary effect. If 20.3%'s were possible (technically they are) it would be fantastic.

It's interesting how Flaming Weapon = Cursed Gems though. What could the lore implications be? Someone call Vaati!
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>>159863108
Based Clazza
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>>159865726
>You can get 16.5% fire damage but they come with no secondary effect.

Dude if we're talking pre-Amelia who gives a shit? I mean hell, that's only a few percent shy of Lumpy gems anyway.

And Depth 3 Hotdog drops those?
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any of you try Bloodborne on a PS4 Pro yet?

i know there's no pro patch etc. but i heard battlefield 1 ran better on the pro even without a patch...

also does the game have a lot of slowdowns and sub 30 fps segments?
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>>159866568
Depth 3 Hotdog would probably drop (very slightly) better, and also have secondary effects.

Those 16.5% gems come from the Flame-weapon random guys you see everywhere, often dropping down from ledges. There's 3 in the pre-lamp bonus room of Layer 1 Lower Pthumuru. Or 2 on layer 4 pre-boss Bonus Room that's much quicker and lacks and army of dudes in your way. But you have to beat Rom to reach that.

Multiple locations in Lower Himtertomb as well.
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>>159866735
Alright you just confused the fuck out of me.

>Flaming weapon guys drop "shitty" cursed fire gems
>They're 16% with no side-effects
>Non-Defiled Hotdog drops ~10%s

Sounds pretty damn good to me, but I've never seen a flaming weapon dude drop gems outside of CRFs.
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>>159866597
> also does the game have a lot of slowdowns and sub 30 fps segments?

Yes and no.

The game stutters quite a bit during certain animations and particle effects, but never for extended periods of time and mostly the frame drops arnt in frantic combat. A certain enemies buff animation tanks the framerate momentarily, and a ultra rare attack from a certain enemy sends it to single digits, but these are very, very rare. Most of the time it runs smooth.

Also since you havnt played the game: LEAVE NOW, Play it without returning here and then come back once you've finished it. This place offers nothing but spoilers and tarnished experiences for first timers.

Be gone! For Ye own good.
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>>159866940
Depth 1 hotdog drops 10% gems.
Depth 1 Flamey guys drop 8%
Depth 3 Flamey guys drop 16.5%
Depth 3 Hotdog (would require a root dungeon) would drop better than 16.5%.

Flamey guys drop gems pretty frequently, a common farming spot for early arcane build's is Layer 2 of Depth 1 Ptumuru. There's 2 of them 10 seconds away from the lamp. 8% gems are shitty, but anything to convert a weapon is useful on a arc build.

What I mean by "shitty gems" is that all skinny Ptumurians and Celestial Emmisionaries have gem effects reduced and no benifit added. It's why you end up with a billion 21% physical gems exploring FRCs, a Fatty dropping the same rating gem would be 24%+.
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>>159867227
Well I'll be damned. I even stopped throughout Pthumeru several times to farm them just to see if they dropped anything and never got a one.
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>>159866965
thanks, sounds like the pro could fix some stutter unless the game will be locked in base mode.

i didn't read any spoilers and won't be looking for gameplay advice. just curious if it may be worth waiting for a patch or if the ps4 pro is likely to improve things because this seems to be the most interesting exclusive.

i was planning to pick up a pro with FF15 & last guardian (it will end up being cheaper in december with bundles etc.) but may pull the trigger sooner
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What's your favourite trick weapon transformation, /bbg/?
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>>159867845
Threaded Cane tricked to untricked.
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>>159867845
So many of them are so good aesthetically and practically, but I'm pretty fond of the Saif's neutral transformations as well as the open-to-closed transform attack.

If I liked the Chikage I'd really like the "unzip", especially since I have a background in Iaijutsu.

My favorite though is probably Kirkhammer's hammer-to-sword transform attack.
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>>159867845
Burial Blade
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I just bought the dlc, which character should I complete it with first?
I have my "main" on ng+3, the build is a mess with a lot of SKL, 3 ng+ characters (bloodtinge, str+arc and lvl 50 str meme character), and one I was doing no melee run with, didn't beat the story.
Where do I start?
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>>159868594
Either create a new character to experience it in NG, the non-melee NG character, or one of the NG+ characters though it'll be pretty rough. Is your non-melee char Arcane or Bloodtinge?
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>>159867845
Bloodletter seppuku
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>>159784658
Nice to see someone using muh meem! XD
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Anyone wanna help me with the Descendent for Ihyll? Password is Dizzy
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>>159868752
Bloodtinge, but it turned out to be kinda boring, so idk if I want to play it at all.
At first I started my main, but I couldn't beat vicar Amelia in 4 tries, and I heard that dlc is pretty hard on ng+, so I kinda chickened out on playing him.
Will probably run my BLT waifu, are there any cool blt weapons? Chikage is 10/10, I want something on par
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>>159869104
>are there any cool blt weapons? Chikage is 10/10, I want something on par

Oh yes.
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>>159869104
Simon's Bowblade arrows scale with Blt, more of a secondary weapon if you have low Skill. Bloodletter is near the end of the DLC but it's pretty gud, definitely worth getting.
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>>159869246
I like the way you put it.
Ok then, lets get some of that old hunters' blood on my coat
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>Kenneth

Literally who.
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>ball and chain Undead Giant

What what what what. I just spent an hour getting trashed by this dude. He's slow as shit, how am I this bad? I haven't died yet to a boss but somehow he's whipping out one shots like it ain't no thang.
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>>159871220
Don't get too greedy, best method is to distance yourself, bait the hook swipe to dodge into and get 2-3 hits with a fairly quick weapon. It's easy to pop the pimple this way too. The final phase is a bit more difficult but just distance yourself further to avoid the chains and chip at his health during his recovery. You'll get the timing right eventually.
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Any of you guys ever had Arianna not spawn? I think I'm glitched.
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>>159871668
Just got him, thanks anon. I'm ashamed it took me 10+ attempts to beat him. Though, to be fair, I had 0 vials.

Is depth 3 supposed to be difficult for early game characters? I haven't beat Amelia yet and my weapon is +5.
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>>159871919
That's when the difficulty picks up, especially for low-mid level characters. Good luck with CD-Rom.
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>>159872074
I might hold off in that case. Undead Giant was stressful and time consuming enough, and I feel like enemies are taking forever to die. Maybe I'll go into the Hintertombs and snag that cool Madman set instead.

I always feel kinda shitty after running in a wall of deaths, like my character isn't worth playing anymore. Autism is hard.
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>>159872201
*running into
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>>159872201
I know that feel, it'll go away eventually when your character is complete. A +6 weapon with Lumpy gems is good enough, plus there's that Madman mentioned a few posts above that drop decent Triangles in Lower Hinter.
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