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The night, and the thread, were long... >>159694515

>Patch 1.09 Info
http://www.jp.playstation.com/op/bloodborne/news/2015/12/update109.html

>Accessing the DLC
http://www.bloodborne-wiki.com/2015/09/the-old-hunters.html
Note: If the eye isn't showing up, go to: Settings > Playstation Network/Account Management > Restore Licenses

>Co-Op & PvP
http://www.bloodbell.com/
Official PvP Chalice: hizzngr3 (Pthumeru Root)
/bbg/ Fight Club:
Pthumeru - n6rc9jh8
Loran - jjpkdcgd
Isz - 9v8qndas
(every Saturday 6pm EST, general rules:http://imgur.com/1RjNbF4)

>Resources Pastebin - Planners, Calculators, Spreadsheets, Stats Info, Where to go next in BB, Guide Scans & Wikis
http://pastebin.com/aNR8TXUr

>Chalice Pastebin - General Info, Glyphs for Gems, Best Gems Setups, Multiplayer & Speedrunning
http://pastebin.com/489M5NBv

>Media Pastebin - OSTs, Concept Art & Screenshots
http://pastebin.com/t8byCxfj

>Beasthood & Claws Info
http://pastebin.com/jnbs35ZX

>Wheel, Fight Club, Arc 101 & other Misc. Info
http://ssjnugget.imgur.com

>Bloodborne Damage Calculations and Formulas
http://pastebin.com/YnRRZPMp

>Google Document for all the above, but easier to read.
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1sItpr6PHpoEiFbtFIBtPO4UNeNEpxuztHteANTJRHDU/edit#heading=h.od90ylbez0rz
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Daily Reminders:
>loranon was right
>circlejerks are cancer
>spelunking is the best
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What's the deal with the Piercing Rifle? Is it another Ludwig's, where it looks cooler than it is?
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>>159873643
Reminder that THIS is the truth
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>>159873975
I think it has really good range, I'm not sure about the actual damage output
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>>159873975
it's got longer range, a very tight spread, and you can get sick collats with it
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>>159873643
Now thats some shitty pixel art
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It's a long shot, but do any of you guys feel like doing a full clear of the Hunter's Nightmare? I'm low level and wanted to go through the meat of the game with the Amygdalan Arm. Don't have to kill Ludwig.
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>beckoners who leave shiny coin trails
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Anyone wanna go prospecting with me?
Glyph: ksgqnycq
Pass: bbg1
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>>159876943
SOLD

We can even do Ludwig if you like, gimme a pass
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>>159877101
Awesome. Ringing at the first lamp. Pass:

bbg7
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FUCK me. I got overzealous.
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>>159877182
Oh lord I'm gonna swap weapons, lemme gem up real quick
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>>159877648
No problem. My fault. If you feel like going again we can just sprint up to the fiery boulder. I don't care if we kill the big guy.

Ringing for the Hunter's Nightmare if anyone else wants to join in the fun.

Pass:

bbg7
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>>159877756
Ringing now! We can take our time, no worries.
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Forgot all about the eye pendant!
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>>159873362
>hold that L2 baby.jpg

I love it.
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>>159876995
I thought I was the only one that did that.. Never been srrcd into a dungeon with brilliant lights.
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check this out guys
sauce is keyman btw.
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Thanks for the help, man! Gonna go back to doing the base game before I come back here. Got what I was after!
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>>159879380
Glad to help! Sorry he got me there. Have fun with the Amy Arm!
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Anyone wanna run through the game with me. Bored and never cooped outside of bosses.
Ill be waiting at the central yharnam lamp
Password is bbg
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>>159879270
Reminds me of Guy Davis' The Marquis
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Could someone help me out with pthumerian descendant on the depth 5 chalice? Password is Dizzy
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>>159879507
On my way dude
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>>159879270
>>159879683
TRICORN HATS ARE IN BOYS
TIME TO TRADE IN THAT FEDORA
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>>159879926
Tricorns were always cool
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Give me some good female character fashion, /bbg/.
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>>159879731
So no then?
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>>159880524
Not picking up Yharnam guy, so I'll help out, gonna SRRC in
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>>159880617
Thanks dude
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>>159880278
White church top, no hood, no gloves (or surgical), Tomb Prospector's leg or Yahar'gul black leg
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>>159879809
Ill be at Old Yharnam if you want to keep going
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>>159877005
Hello? Anyone?
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AH THE FUCKING HUNTER RUNE HOLD ON
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Hello fellow hunters,
Did anyone of you upgrade to PS4 Pro, I did it today. So I installed BB again and downloaded the patch, then my game save from ps+ cloud, but now the game tells me when I try to load my character that ''Game install incomplete, cannot load save data''.
Anyone else have this problem? I really don't want to lose my hunters.
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>>159881748
Its no problem, I just can't beleive what happened with the boss. Full health, and then in the blink of an eye, dead
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>>159881735
Is that FRC? I'm not home right now, but I might join when I return in about half an hour.
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>>159881748
Thanks dude!
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>>159881735
I can join, give me a minute
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>>159881904
Yeah I'm stuck on HBLB. Can't even fathom where to begin with this guy.
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>>159882061
Glad to help! I hate that grunting fucker!

>>159881448
You still there?
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>>159882227
Yeah, still ringing
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>>159882131
Yeah, he's a fucker. If you're still looking for co-op in a while, anon, I'll join you.
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>>159873362
Shit, the thumbnail looked like an Oreo.
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how does one git gut with the claws ?
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Got ganged up on by beasts, ringing again
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>>159883053
Gotcha, im making my way to the boss
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>>159883283
I got all the gates open and ringing now
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>>159884342
You in Cathedral Ward, yeah? Lamp or Amelia fog?
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>>159885112
Waiting at amelia
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If Micolash hates beasts and their idiocy, why is there a stash of BBP hidden in the loft?
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>>159885852
I'm there!
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>>159882131
My pro BLB tips

1- Don't lock on
2- Roll towards him and wail on his legs
2a- if you have an appropriate weapon you can try to break his arms/head instead
3- when he starts doing his 'fuck off I'm gonna walk towards you and shockwave you' walk of death, walk towards him and roll between his legs once he starts his big arm slam. Stick to his right so he has a harder time stepping on you.
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JESUS CHRIST HE ISN'T PLAYING AROUND
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>>159886237
Wow, that guy one shot me after you died
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>>159883017
I think short weapons always are a bit fucked when it comes to PvP but I like the claws best when I'm a 50 STR or SKL character and can use a Sharp/Heavy gem to give them S scaling
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>>159885991
The same reason there's an Iosefka's blood vial in the chest past Yharnam right before the wet nurse
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>>159886348
HOW? FUCK THAT GUY
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Don't face him head on, follow me and I'll visceral him, those double shots are a goddamn death sentence
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He fucking just cancelled out of the parry animation
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>>159887584
Lol, I saw that
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>>159887653
Ill be at the Hemick Lane lamp next
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>>159888231
Ringadingin
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how much co op is there still?

would paying for ps+ after a long time gone be worth it? all i play on my ps4 is BB.
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>>159888909
There is still plenty of co-op here in /bbg/ and in randoms in general. I'd say PS+ is still worth it. I only just got into BB three months ago, and I've been playing it nonstop ever since.
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>>159888486
JUST

ill be at the first lamp, i thougjt she was using the blue spell so I dodged behind her
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Anyone feel like killing Byrgenwerth Rom? I'm ringing outside the fog.

Pass:

bbg
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>>159889453
On my way, friendo.
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>overleveled on a quality character that has every lost / uncanny variant I want at +10 with 27.2% gems
Make a new guy or just spelunk for the rest of my bloodborne career? By overleveled I mean 140
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>>159889705
Thanks, my man.
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>>159889238
Im done for now, I have to head to work soon, thanks for tagging along
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>>159889453
Why did you kill Willem, you beastly idiot?
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>>159889928
He got what he deserved.
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>>159889872
Glad to help!
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>>159890054
A vacation to some place where he could sit in his comfy chair all day long?
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Is there an Ornstein & Smough like boss in BB? Got the DLC today and killed that Ludwig thingy first try. The DLC has better things in store I hope?
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>>159890780
Technically there's four guys at once at one point
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>>159890950

I mean a boss that is really challenging. My bad.
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>>159891101
Generally people say Ludwig is hard, but for me the last boss of the DLC is much harder.
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>>159891101
The last of the boss of the DLC fucks with everything you've learned about dodging. Ludwig's tough depending on your level, otherwise just a really fun fight.
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>>159891101
You will find no shortage of challenging bosses in BB

Many people don't even make it past the first mandatory boss
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>>159893915

I beat almost every boss first try. Only in the defiled chalice I died a couple of times to that spider Amygaldia!? and defiled watchdog. Really disappointed with the lack of challenge so far. What's the level I should tackle the DLC at? I am going to start a new character so I don't mess up my DLC experience. After finishing all those chalice dungeons before I got to Rom in the main story, I ended up way OP and I'm only lvl 76 right now. Runes and blood gems are way too good.
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>>159880278
If you want the best ass in the game, you need Ashen pants and Bone Ash Chest peice. It gives a certain definition to the shape while also leaving it not covered by any coats/capes.
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http://blog.us.playstation.com/2016/11/10/playstation-experience-2016-attending-publishers-and-developers/
There it is, no From at the playstation experience, expect the next Souls reveal at E3 2017.
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>>159888909
There was like 10 different people in Lower Himtertomb last night, an area so optional it's not even required for Platnium.

Game is very much alive, and bbg will keep going forever. PS+ is a scam, but I like BB too much to not pay for it, and it's gotten me to try some games I never would have paid for.
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>>159895129

What body type did you choose? My girl is skinny as fuck. Do not want.
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>>159896234
Super skinny as well, I don't even think it's possible to make "big" characters with feminine proportions, it always looks stocky/muscley.

That being said, Djura's skin tight leather pants make anyone's ass look good.
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>>159895404
>near-final

You can't fool me, Patches
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Bloodborne newfag here. Only played about 2 hours, maybe a bit more. Beat Cleric Beast and Gascoigne so far. Cleric Beast had shitloads of hp but was manageable and Gascoigne was a complete pushover with this babbymode parrying. Some thoughts so far:

>dodging is hella strong
>stamina regen is super fast
>parrying is easy as hell and has no risk involved compared to Dark Souls
>Blood Vials drop from every second enemy, giving you loads of sustain in addition to the health you get back from hitting folks

Having buttloads of fun so far. Died the first time to that machine gunning nigger spraying me at the beginning of Old Yharnam. Also I like how the first weapon I picked up in this game (Saw Cleaver) is more fun than anything I've ever used in Dark Souls

/blog
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>>159897272
Glad you're having fun, anon

Piece of advice: don't kill machine gun guy
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>>159898295
Should I go into an entirely different direction or can I just kind of walk past without meeting him?
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>>159898376
You don't need to interact with him, hes on that tower.
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>>159898602
Alright, thanks. He did seem friendly at first so I figured you could befriend him at some point
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>>159896234
>>159896661
Make the legs and waist hUEG and lower everything else to zero except the head. You might want to downsize the head as well.

Looks way more feminine than the stock body.

Agreed on ashen pants.
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>>159898794
Let me help you out here. You'll have to do a lot of running and dodging. Run through the city of beasts, dodge their claws, doge their protector's spray of death, pick up loot, and find the Bloodstarved Beast. Kill her, go to the Catherdal Ward, find a man with a huge sack, and let him kill you.
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>>159898794
Minor minor spoiler that might help

You open a shortcut that leads back into Old Yharnam from a different area later on, when you approach his tower from that shortcut, you can talk to him, you get an item from him, and it also makes it easy to backstab him to get his armour if you want it
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>>159898971

But you never going to see any ass with all the trench coat outfits in this game.

>inb4 well, don't use a chest piece
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>>159900356
Foreigner garb and Decorative Huner garb my man
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>>159881438
>Tomb prospector legs
My man
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Are Flamesprayer and Rosmarinus useless outside of pvp chip damage? Do Bone Marrow Ashes make the damage worth using?
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>>159880278
No hat, Sweaty Clothes and Doll skirt for working class gal look
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>tfw gender variant clothing isn't available in the messenger shop

Black Church top for women is perfect wizard attire.
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>>159899227
>>159899579
thanks, lads. I'm trying to stay as spoiler-free as much as possible but thanks anyway.
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>>159880278
Top hat, hunters garb with the shoulder cap, constable gloves, and black church dress if you want to look like a very classy lady.
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> he doesn't have 3 of these on a Stake Driver before killing Amelia

just give me 20.3%s with a decent curse you incontinent fuck
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Anyone willing to help out with the BSB in Ailing Loran CD? Keep getting caught in that grab attack that just outright kills me with no chance of escape.
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>>159903539
pass?
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>>159903638
7423
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>>159903215
Stamina cost is a pretty good curse, though.
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>>159903693
Ok gimme a sec

>>159903717
Yeah but Charge ATK up is a very niche (and rare) gem, I just want Temperings and Lumpy keep giving me shitty curses, and then gives a near perfect gem of a type I don't want.
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>>159903638
Thanks!
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>>159901931
If you upgrade the Flamesprayer it's useful against BSB if you're going full ARC.
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>>159904638
And of course, the second room into this new layer has TWO red spider spawning bell witches. WONDERFUL. I LOVE CHALICE DUNGEONS.
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>>159877005
Why you niggers only wanna post shit like this after I go to sleep?
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>>159903215
Yo anon I got a 36% charge up gem from the wandering madness monsters in frc dungeons.
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How do I make a wheel that deals rapid poisoning?
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>>159905269
Yeah it's not a top tier gem.

But you can get it before Vicar Amelia. FRC gems require you to have beaten Micalosh.
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>>159905409
Just letting ya know, I remember some anons here were surprised.
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>>159905393
1) Aquire a +6 Wheel

2) Enter the chalice glyph s8cyrf7f

3) kill all the scorpions that are 2 seconds away from the lamp with as much Discovery as possible. They drop radial Rapid Poison gems.

4) keep farming until you have 2 that are 16.8 Rapid poison with curses that arnt too bad (honestly on a poison build only -health is noticable)

5) find a Waning or Triangle poison gem somewhere. I think poison is pretty common in Loran dungeons.

6) Poison people in a single dash-r1 and poison bosses in 2.
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When does it end?
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>>159905813
The normal wheel, right? Would this work with the lost and uncanny versions?
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>first time going up an abhorrent beast
holy fuck this thing is angry- punched me a new asshole in about 2 seconds
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>>159906227
It depends on what gems you have.

If you have a Triangle poison gem already, an Uncanny Wheel would be best. Otherwise I think a normal wheel would be better because Poison Waning gems are easier to get than Triangle.

The scorpions are piss easy to farm, but only drop radials. I was lucky enough to get an offshape Waning so I never had to go looking for one, but Loran Silver beast boss should drop decent ones in Cursed Lower Loran root.
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>>159906483
Ah gotcha.

Thank you
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>>159906392
Abhorrent Beast is one of the worst bosses in the game, fucking hate him and that goddamn punch he does
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>>159907085
>that fucking storm slam attack with the lingering hitbox
Fucking makes me pull my hair out
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What's the fastest way to get the best Amygdalan Arm upgrade possible? What gems do I need?
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>>159907624
Basic physical gems is all you can really use. With a Heavy Abyssal if you have 50 STR and can bare to farm FRC headless bloodletting beast.

Otherwise just use 27% physicals from Ihyll and Isz watchers.

If you want early gems either use Hamlet droplets, or Lumpy Radials and Clarence Triangles from lower Pthumuru and Hintertomb respectfully.
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>>159907993
The only thing I did in chalices was enough to kill everything up to and including the Queen. Do I need a special code to join for HBLB?
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Anyone got the ps pro? Does it help?
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Which watcher is lumpy again? is the the lever guardian on lower pthumeru level 2?
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>>159908248
First you are going to have to make a FRC dungeon.

Go to any empty chalice tombstone and make a Depth 5 root chalice dungeon with all 3 additional rites (Fedid, Rotted and Cursed). Now you qualify for all glyphs. Enter a different empty tombstone and select search by chalice glyph.

Type in swjteujh and reach layer 3 of the dungeon. I can coop with you to help. Once you open the gate on layer 3 quit the game and backup your savefile on a USB. Then go and kill HBLB, if you get a +65 STR scaling gem with a decent secondary effect and a useable curse, carry on and have fun. If you get an imperfect gem then quit the game and restore your savefile from the USB and repeat. Over and over until you get a perfect gem.

If you summon friends it's much easier and we get gems to. I already have the dungeon open so connections should be quick.
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>>159909162
Yes. He drops 20.3% Phys gems and (very rarely) other types like Thrust/Blunt/Charge attack at higher values.

His trianglar counterpart is Clarence the chest guarding madman in Lower Himtertomb layer 1 pre-boss bonus area. 16.5% +15 flat.
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>>159909647
Thanks man
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Anyone need help/ want company?
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>>159910279
I'm about to clear out Cainhurst if you wanna tag along. Pass:

bbg
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>>159910279
Lower Pthumuru Undead Giant

Pass is bbg123

prepare your anus
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>>159910395
>>159910279
>>159910420
Help chalice guy instead
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>>159910420
Be there shortly.

>>159910395
Will be there after if you still want.
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>>159910420
Ringing in now. Please wait by the lamp instead of the fog, it helps the SRRC.
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I'm ringing

But no fogwall has appeared yet.
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>>159911070
Yeah, it's taking longer than it should.

Make sure the dungeon is shared (leave and on the Layer select screen, hit the Square button) and you're set to Worldwide in the Network tab, then try again.
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So this is suppose to be an edit? The last part I mean?
>>159907186
>>159907085
>>159906392
He is an Abhorrent Beast afterall. He's meant to be abhorred more than regular beasts.
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>>159911282
The shared fixed dungeon, that's not a problem.

Instead of SRRCing could you quickly rush layer 1? It's an easy sprint to the lever and the boss is Watchers.
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Okay guys, this is the last chalice, and then I will be ready for cancerous gem farming. Headless Blood Letting Beast, Password is Dizzy. I will appreciate you forever
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>>159911369
Nope, big M really said that.
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What the fuck is going on with matchmaking?

I've ringing in Lower Pthumuru this entire time.
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>>159911369
>So this is suppose to be an edit? The last part I mean?

Paarl's Japanese name translates to Wank-Demon Paaru
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Thanks Inka!
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So is anyone actually ringing for Undead giant or I have wasted 20 minutes of my life?
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>>159912729
Goddamn has it already been that long?

Are you sure the dungeon is shared?
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>>159912895
Yes, it's the jiph Preset Lower Pthumuru dungeon. It can't not be shared.

I even cooped with people yesterday in it.
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>>159912895
Are you wearing Bone Ash hat and using the Axe? Because I can see you but you arnt ringing.
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>>159913152
Nah that's not me
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>>159913267
....

well then.
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>>159913374
Yo what the fuck? What BL are you?
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When accounting for your typical Arcane resistances in both PVP and PVE, is there a huge difference in hunter tool damage between 70 and 99 ARC? I have the tool scaling chart but I don't know how much enemy resists affect those numbers.

I ask because I want to play an Arcanist but I'm undecided on how high I want to take the stat since those 29 points would allow me some weapon variety and I really want to use HMS.
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>>159913461
it doesn't matter what blood level we are, all that matters is killing Undead Giant.

10
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>>159913483
this is how defense works.

The higher the damage the less it gets affected by defense. If your damage is 8x the defense then you do 90% of listed damage.
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>Log into my favorite character for the first time in a while
>50/50 Skl/Arc
>Should have a +10 Rakuyo and +10 HMLS, both fully gemed
>HMLS isn't my inventory or storage
>Rakuyo is only +9
>All my best gems are gone
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>>159913882
Did someone else play your file?
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>>159913943
Nah, I live alone.
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Anyone feel like Logarius? Ringing at the fog. Pass:

bbg
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Thanks! Retarded easy with those back viscerals.
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>>159914169
Still ringing?
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Anyone wanna go through Forbidden Woods with me? Im at first lamp
Password is bbg
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>>159914819
Sounds jolly. Omw.
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I've lost everything, bbg. Everything. It's all gone. My BB save files are lost and with them literally hundreds of hours of my life. Gems, weapons, optimized characters... Gone.
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>>159915361
What about your Online Storage?
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>>159914819
Should I just assume you've run off into the level without me and stop ringing?

>>159915361
BB consumes life
Life consumes BB
Pottery
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>>159915361
Christ, that's terrible, anon.
How, though? Everything just disappeared? You have no backups anywhere?
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So I was climbing Mergo's tower of horror and weeaboos and I came across this lady in white, What to I do?
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>>159915449
>>159915474
Deleted from online storage. Checked my backups and for some reason the BB folder is empty. All my other shit from all other games are there.
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>>159915571
Anything, nothing happens really. If you leave her and come back after defeating the boss she'll gesture and disappear.
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>>159915571
Grab her by the pussy.
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>>159915625
What a nightmare. They might not be able to do much about it, but maybe call customer support?

>>159915571
Nothing. You'll see her again if you want to plat the game.
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>>159915625
That's fucked, sorry for your loss. No USB backups either?
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>>159914169
If you still need help I am game
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>>159915725
>>159915771
The physical backups were transferred to my PC. No idea why they're just not there. So weird.

I'm not as broken up about it as I thought though. Not sure why. Guess I get to do it all over again and that doesn't really piss me off too much?
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>>159914964
Ill be right in front the shadows in a second
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>>159916331
I'll be there.

fuck boars
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>>159916415
Thanks anon, and dont worry about the piggy, I got revenge on him.
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If anyone's interested in an early game chalice dungeon, I've made a Central Pthumerian
with an Uncanny threaded cane and a
15% physical damage droplet gem.

Glyph is j3mf2mxw
Reply to this post if you're interested, otherwise I'm gonna delete it when I'm done
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>>159917770
I'll probably go in there in a few hours to get the gem, would be good for my new character. So leave it up overnight if its not too much trouble~
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>>159908834
Could someone please answer?
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>>159917770
> 15% Droplet

Fuck, that's good since you can put it in weapons that have a Waning slot which usually goes unused for most of the game. Central Ptumuru as well can be acsessed super early.

Obviously not as good as the 16.5% +15 flat Triangle gems you can get in Lower Himtertomb, but much quicker.
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>>159918081
Yeah, that's why I figured I'd share. Theres also a messenger bath on the first floor.
>>159917934
No problem, can do.
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THIS LADY OF THE NIGHT HAD A SQUID BABBY! WAT DO?!
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>>159918686
ELIMINATE
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>>159918686
Kill it famygdala
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Who wants to beat the shit out of the One Reborn? Ringing at fog. Pass:

bbg
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Thanks, my man.
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>>159911369
They trolling u
>>159911573
>>159912098
Good shoop tho
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>>159917770
I sure wish arc builds had this kind of stuff.

I get why phys gems are so easy to find, but man it gets annoying.
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>weapon breaks a few seconds into bossfight
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>>159919670
If on;y there was a way to leave scott free to go repair your stuff...
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>>159919758
Anon might have been in co-op, can't just mark out in co-op
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>>159919807
True, true.

That's why I always carry a back-up.
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>>159919940
I always have a backup weapon. It's actually my highest damage weapon, my Whirligig, for when things get serious. That L2 solves many problems.
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>>159917770
>>159917934
>>159918081
This just in: There's also an Uncanny sawspear on the bottom floor.
Now that I've finished it, It also gives a total of 9 sages wrists, so you'll make your fetid offering back and then some.
>mfw this dungeon at lvl 41
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>>159918780
>>159918798
Damn, no mercy for infants huh? I use this umbilical cord for the end right?
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Anyone care to help at Rom? Pass is bbg and ill be by the fog
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>>159920676
You mean Burgertown Rom?
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>>159920732
Yus
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>>159920765
Alrighty. Omw
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>first time in hunter's nightmare
>not so bad, smooth run, only a few deaths
>enter boss room
>it's ludvig
>ok I see he's gonna attack me fr~
>YOU DIED

10 tries in, best run I got him down to 30%, fuck he has so much health. But I'm having a lot of fun with him, good "welcome back" boss.
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>>159920480
You need to use three of them
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How can I salvage my bowblade build?


Currently runnin with Bowblade, Torch, Loch Shield and +10 Reiter for parrying.

With +4/+3 Vial runes right now I can stand to use R1 attacks a lot more, but with only 30 SKL my blade form is severely lacking.

I'm working on leveling up my SKL to 50, but if there's a way to get more damage out of the bow before doing that I'd like to go that route instead.

I don't have optimal gems, just the best I could find while running through most of the story dungeons (Ailing Loran is next) and after cycling to NG+ I am finding that I am having absolutely far too much difficulty with the bosses (particularly gascan).

Any advice other than suicide or starting a new character (I already started a new character and almost immediately got bored)?
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So I just fucked Ebrietas, Daughter of The Cosmos and I was wondering what do I do with that corpse in the back?
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>>159921237
It's completely pointless
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>>159921174
Get 20.3% Lumpy gems in Lower Pthumeru layer 2 and 16.5%+15 from the Madman on Lower Hintertomb mentioned a couple posts above for decent gems. Visceral are tied to gems and mainly Skill level so parry/visceral Gascan to get through him. Other than that, git gud and finish the dungeons, those gems should be enough to get to FRC and you'll rack up enough echoes to get 50 Skill.
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>>159921430
Why u lying to him?
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>>159921237
There's no real way to tell you without spoiling it because it's so specific. I guess the best I can do is tell you to complete Alfred's questline, the thing you need is found in Cainhurst.

Ultimately it's pointless, though, just seems to be a way for Cainhurst covenant people to unfuck themselves of a situation.
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I'm ask again politely since you fuckers ignored that one anon asking a serious question

Did the PS PRO make any changes to Bloodborne? also he's having issues anyone else care to give feedback?
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>>159922549
Dude, no ones ignoring you. No one fell for that gimmick "upgrade". Thus we can't answer your question.
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>>159922549
>I'm ask again politely since you fuckers ignored that one anon asking a serious question
Ask elsewhere. Nobody's answering because nobody has the PS Pro. For fuck's sake.
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>>159922549
THE PS4 PRO

DOES NOT

AFFECT

MULTIPLAYER

GAMES
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>>159922549
Just google it up maybe? I don't give a shit, I'm beating the old hunters, selling my ps4 and buying a pc.
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>>159922936
Make your own.
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Upper Loft shenanigans + Wet Nurse for anyone interested. Pass:

bbg
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>>159922936
What's the armour set?
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>>159923463
Mad Warrior
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Looking to do a bloodtinge build. How survive until I get to Cainhurst?
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>>159923587
Rifle Spear
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>>159923587
Like any BL4 run, Saw + Papers + BB Pellets. You could also use a Repeating Pistol for a little extra ranged damage, there's a 12% Blt gem below the Sword Hunter Badge that unlocks LHB/Tomb set.
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Trying to snag the platinum tonight. Anyone wanna kill Wet Nurse? Pass is bbg like always.
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>>159923587
I used cane with 25 SKL when I beat logarius. Chikage regular form scales from it, so it helps. But you can max out BLT and roll with hunter pistol, it's ridicilously easy and also ridicilously boring. Or try repeating pistol, if you don't mind grinding for bullets every now and then.
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>>159923812
never really used pellets or found out how they worked.
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>>159924056
The higher the beasthood meter, the more damage your physical weapons do (fire/bolt/arcane/blood damage is unaffected) with the risk of taking more damage but it's not too noticeable. Helps having lower Insight and high beasthood armor like Djura's. Saw Cleaver/Spear r1, l1 combo is great for getting it filled quicker.
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>>159924056
Just eat it and go wild on that boss' critical point. It increases your damage the more you hit, but also increase the damage you take.
Works exceptionally well with BoM.
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>>159923907
Anybody?
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>>159923032
Go ahead and call me a weeb I guess, I just think the Eastern Set looks fantastic.
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>>159921174
Start over. Use this. You're welcome.
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First Vicar is ass
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>>159923032
>Armor
Painting Guardian
>Weapon
Kirkhammer
>Shield
Grass Shield
>Spell
Great Combustion
>Ring
Silvercat
>Boss
Maria
>NPC
Marvelous Chester
>Basic Enemy
Snatchers
>Area
Painted World (DaS1)
>Covenant
Gravelord
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>>159922936
>>159923032
Reeks of shitty market research.
Take a step forward.
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>>159928369
You couldn't possibly be any more of a newfag piece of shit.

This is a well accepted format of post.
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Eileen got killed by Henryk after I left him with one hp. In my completionist run. Fucking cunt cocksucker jesus christ god damn it. Now I have to start over.
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>>159928546
Why the hell wouldn't you make a back up right before the encounter if you cared that much?
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>>159928546
>tfw every single character I make that needs the Hunter rune, Eileen fucking dies
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>>159873362
Pepperoni is a shit topping and everyone who likes it needs to die.
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>>159928546
>>159928950
Across 20 playthroughs I have never seen Eileen die.

Just how shit does a person have to be?
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>>159929123
I soloed Henryk to stop her from getting hit until he was down to 5% hp or so, and then let Eileen finish him off. He comboed her off the face of the earth.
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>>159928546
Just bring 20 blood bullets and have a decent amount of health and shoot him every few seconds and/or when he starts laying into Eileen.
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>>159929002
It's time for you to die
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Is NA ever getting a complete edition on disc?
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>>159929263
Dude, you can let her do most of the work. Just throw a knife at him if he starts comboing her or before he can riposte her after landing a parry.
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I've had this game since it came out, I've got the dlc, and I've beaten it, but I have never been able to beat Vicar Amelia.

First time I "beat" her, I summoned a friend who just immediately killed her.

Right now I'm level 24 and I die in 2-3 hits. I don't know what to do.
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>>159930009
Make sure you have at least 20 Vit, any Saw with BB Pellets and Fire Paper wrecks her shit. You could also do some early Chalice Dungeons for okay gems, Lower Pthumeru layer 2 Watcher drops really nice cursed gems.
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I am getting sick of this fucking game's bullshit. You get knocked down and before you can recover, you take more damage and die. Fucking bullshit.
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>>159930009
Circle anti-clockwise and punch her asshole.

Also use Beast Blood Pellets and Fire Paper if you can.
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>>159930009
I can't tell if this is serious or very, very specific bait for the guy making the guide to being as over powered as possible before Amelia.

Either way there's a lot you can do before Amelia to make yourself stronger. There's 3-4 optional areas you can complete, and if you explore thoroughly you should have a +6 weapon, and be level 40+.

You can also go pretty deep into the chalice dungeons and get obscenely powerful gems, but that requires beating things harder than Amelia and takes loads of farming. It's cool you can do it, and I want to see that dudes video if he ever actually makes it, but it's overkill.

A +6 weapon and some fire paper is all you need, I isually get behind her and attack the left leg, the key is to stay right on her and keep aggressive enough to lock her in staggering from doing large damage to limbs. She also won't heal if you are right on her. But I'd suggest exploring optional areas and leveling up first.
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>>159923032
It is impossible for me to answer any of these.
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6 HOURS.
6 FUCKING HOURS TRYING TO BEAT THIS FUCK.

Never has any souls boss pissed me off more than HBLB. I've watched strategy Vids, I've tried cheesing him, I've even tried using the Whirligig. Nothing, I can't even get him to phase 2 anymore, and even if I do he just jabs me and OHKOs me from across the map. Fuck this guy.
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>>159930303
He's not that hard dude, how much Vit you got?
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>>159930303
need some help?
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>>159930324
50 VIT, I'm level 140.

>>159930335
Yes please. Pass is 'bbg1' and glyph is 'ksgqnycq' I'll be on in 5-10 mins, I need some fresh air.
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ayo, it's been a while? Is multiplayer ded? Do FCs on Saturdays still exist?
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>>159930569
Still alive, still exist.
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>>159930335
Sorry m8, I couldnt get back up to the door because of that stupid ladder, had to hunters mark out. ringing again.
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Anon killed me and then left me to fend for myself.

Anyone wanna help with HBLB?
Pass is bbg1 and glyph is ksgqnycq
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>>159873362
Picked this up at my local store because it's going out of business. Beat Cleric Beast and Father G. Bout to dump echoes to level. What stats should I go for.
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>connection error
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>>159931549
Coming gimme a sec.

Are you farming gems or just trying to kill him?
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>>159931684
Depends on your playstyle and the type of weapons you like.

Vitality is a very important stat. You should aim for no less than 40 with any character unless you really know what you are doing.

Endurance is a toss up. Some people don't level it past base, most stop at 20. Personally I'd keep it between 20-30 depending on the weapons you use, heavier weapons take more stamina to use, but honestly... The passive physical defence you get from it really helps me.

Strength and Skill are your primary damage stats, and should be leveled in accordance with what weapons you are using and their scaling. Weapons scale with either or both with an E to S scale. If your favorite weapon has high strength scaling for example, pump strength. These both have softcaps at 50 so don't exceed.

Bloodtinge is primarily for firearm damage, but there are a few primary weapons that scale with it really well. Rule of thumb, if it's a projectile weapon or it's covered in blood, it scales with BLT.

Arcane Is still a bit of a mystery to me, best reading the guide in OP.

Hope that helps a bit.
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>>159931998
I've just started Gem farming for the first time. I'm going for pure physical gems for my LHB and HMS to start with then hopefully I'll feel comfortable with farming more weird shit, but desu I don't really know what I'm doing. I just want these Korean gems people talk about before I start NG+ for the first time.
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>>159932010
>Rule of thumb, if it's a projectile weapon or it's covered in blood, it scales with BLT.
Or, better yet, just look at the item's scaling.
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>>159931684
Vitality is always good, especially if you arnt the best at playing the game

Endurance is a luxury stat, if you feel short on stamina go for some, but you never need more than 20.

Strength and Skill are good damage stats for first playthrough. Str for heavy weapons, SKL for quick ones. You want a bit of both to try everything and specialise later.

Bloodtinge and Arc arnt good for beginners. Getting the stuff that actually scales of those stats is a pain and you need to know where they are. Both really fun to build around, but not first playthrough.
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>>159932078
>I've just started Gem farming for the first time
>BL140
>Vileblood
baka desu senpai

>>159931684
Get your vitality to 30 ASAP. Base scaling stats + Beast Blood Pellets + the appropriate paper is more than adequate to take out the early bosses while you're getting a feel for the game and trying out new weapons..
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>>159932078
Ok I'm ringing at SRRC now.

I'm pretty good at killing HBLB if there's other people also drawing agro. Gemmed out Pizza cutter wrecks his shit.
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>>159931684
Quality playthrough is recommended first time around, Bloodtinge and Arcane builds are pretty complicated compared. 25 first softcap, 50 next. So get both Strength and Skill to 25 then decide which to get to 50 if you care about staying within a meta (80-120, 98 here). Vitality should be 40-50, Endurance doesn't matter much so keep it at base-20 with a Stamina Rune. Military Veteran origin or Cruel Fate if you want to try out a few Hunter Tools (spells) at 15-18 Arcane.
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>>159930303
?
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>>159932078
Did you get a good gem?

Or are we going again?
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>>159932212
THANK YOU SO MUCH!
I also got a really good gem!
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>>159932471
I got a shit one :(

What are farming now? More Heavy Abyssals or something else?
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>>159932457
Okay, just so I know, what is an optimal gem setup for a 50STR/30SKL build on the LHB and HMS? I have the standard versions of each.
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>>159932583
+65 Heavy Abyssal, 27.2% Phys Radial and Triangle from Watchers.
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>>159932581
>>159932583
I think I'm gonna go for another heavy abbysal. Do I have to run the same chalice all the way through again or is there a quicker way to do this?
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>>159932810
Sadly no.

However if you use the glyph swjteujh instead, I can carry you through by ringing on each layer and opening the gate for you. Since I already have the entire thing open.
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>>159932010
>>159932103
>>159932261
Well, sounds good to me.
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>>159932868
Awesome. Ill make it now and start ringing asap. Thanks a bunch for this m80!
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>>159932909
Ok backup your save after we get this lever.
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>>159933546
uh... give us a quick 'how-to' on that?
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>>159933730
Before killing HBLB

> quit game
> plug USB into ps4
> go to settings menu
> application save data
> copy to external storage
> Bloodborne
> yes

Then restart bb and we kill HBLB, if you get a good gem keep playing. If you get a shit gem:
> quit game,
> application save data
> copy FROM extranal storage
> Bloodborne

Then kill him again. Repeat until you are happy.
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>>159933935
Ah, I see.
Just give me a few mins to find a USB.
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>>159933991
Okay, all backed up and ready to savescum. Ringing now.
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>>159934230
Ok I'm ringing in pre-boss hallway
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What'd you get?

Post stats of gem
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how to git gud at reiterpallasch?
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>>159934287
>>159934428
>STR Scaling +65
>WPN Durability UP +6
>ATK vs Kin down 11.7%

Its not as good as the last drop as it had 'add phys attack 15' but its still better than some of my current gems in the LHB. Should I load my back or is it good enough?
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>>159934470
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zibdXtzYRfw
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>>159934605
Not the guy you're farming with but I'd store it Online and roll again. If you don't get anything better, you could always grab it back.
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>>159934605
That's a pretty good gem, and a very useable curse, but a useless secondary.

Depends how much you want max damage. It might be a few runs before you even see something that good again.

You could always keep it and run more HBLBs another time.
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I just got to Ep9 of Berserk(2016). Goddam this shit's intense as fuck.

I want a BB2 or a BB DLC with even more Berserk influence, damn it. I want to go to that huge-ass Vivec-from-hell-looking temple and fight more disgusting giant animal-demons and shit.

Fuck, I'm so pumped up with nothing to do about it. Why are there like four games in all creation that actually resonate so well with me?

Anyone need any help with anything?
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>>159934696
I'm not too bothered about getting MAX max damage, I just want good enough gems to get me through NG+ fairly easily and occasionally do some PvP.

Lets do it a few more times. See if i can get a +15 atk secondary. Would the Eye runes help at all?
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>>159934964
I'm ringing in same place

No, eye runes don't affect gem quality, only drop chance. And since this is a boss the chance for a gem is already 100%. They do help get more chunks and rocks though.
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shit sorry, forgot I was nearly out of vials.

Did you get him?
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>>159935305
ha ha no chance, I've already accepted im too much of a scrub to beat this guy on my own. He killed me a couple secs after you. Ringing again.
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It wasn't an Abbysal :(

Ringing again in 2 mins.
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What'd you get that time?

I got garbage for the 3rd time in a row :(
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>>159935721
shit gem. Lets go again.
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>>159935975
Ayy I got an abyssal with +5% ATK on full HP and kin down.

What about you? Ringing again?
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Okay. Pretty good gem!
>STR +65
>+ phys atk 12.7
>atk vs kin down 11.3%

Hows this? Im pretty happy with it. got two chunks too.
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>>159873362
What if the beast patients are actually Thousand Sons? They are humans mutated because of the machinations of elder gods with a cosmic origin and have a fear of fire after a traumatic event of mass extermination.
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>>159936226
A thunderstorm just started at my house, so I think it's a sign we should stop.

You got two excellent gems though. 65 scaling and + Physival attack are very sought after. Although they would work better on something like Axe or Beast Cutter than Ludwigs or HMS, because those weapons have shit scaling so the increase is much more noticable.
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>>159936369
Yeah no worries bud, I have to go shortly anyway.
I'm roleplaying as a sort of "Knight of Old" character, so I'm only using the swords anyway.
Should i go for the 27.2% Triangle and Radials Now? any good glyphs?
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AAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAA FUCK YOU YOU FUCKING HORSE
I killed him! Yes!
Jesus, seriously, this was probably one of the hardest bosses in the whole game and that's just the first dlc boss, I'm so excited for the rest of it I'm literally shaking right now. Or that's euphoria from killing ludvig.
Ng+ bloodtinge build, solo. Fuck yeah

Also, when I was farming blood vials, some dude invaded me, I never played online before so it was kinda awkward and I didn't know what to do untill he attacked me. We traded a few blows, he used like 5 vials, whilst he did almost no damage to me. I got bored, unzipped my chikage and murdered him in two strikes. The first one took about 90% of his health.
Made me kek a little

also, ludvig music is 10/10 amazing piece
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A HOONTA

MUST
HOONT
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>>159936609
>I'm literally shaking right now
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>>159936497
Pwmf22gu for radials

Since its layer 1 boss that drops them, don't savescum, just remake the dungeon each time. Remember "puh-wum-ff-22-goo" theres a way to copy/paste, but I can't figure it out so I just learn glyphs phonetically

It's worth noting that all the HMS's physical damage except for the ones that are obviously thrust attacks are actually blunt. So if you can live without the untricked R2 and a couple other attacks, you can get much bigger damage on regular swings by using 32.6% blunt gems instead of 27.2% physicals.
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>>159936609
Should have gone str.
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>>159936836
>It's worth noting that all the HMS's physical damage except for the ones that are obviously thrust attacks are actually blunt. So if you can live without the untricked R2 and a couple other attacks, you can get much bigger damage on regular swings by using 32.6% blunt gems instead of 27.2% physicals.
Given that the untricked R2 is, besides one of the HMLS' best attacks, one of the best attacks in the game, I have to say, that sounds like really, really shitty advice.
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>>159937389
I have STR+ARC character lvl 80~ something still not on ng+, I will run him after I finish with this one.
I would be able to enter dlc, right? I think I left him in nightmare of mensis
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>>159937661
Don't respond to the tripfag.
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>>159937661
I don't see why I wouldn't. I was just saying str + BLT is amazing after the DLC released.
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> look over recorded footage for 'Over Preperarer's guide to Vicar Amelia'
> 123 videos
> 50+ gb
> still isn't done preparing yet and character now has 25 hours of playtime

I don't know how I'm going to edit this, my laptop is pretty shitty and it would be physically impossible to have even 10% those clips imported at once. I guess I'll make it in chunks, then edit them together later, but still...

It will get made eventually though.
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>>159937992
Try using Sharefactory on the PS4.
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>>159938039
Mate, this is going to be a proper video with title screens, narration and explanatory graphics. Probably 15+ minutes in length once fully edited.

It's going to be edited in Premiere Pro, the problem is that my hardware is shit and it will crash if I import more than a couple of these vids at a time. Which is a problem since parts of it require 9-way split screen to show farming for gems. Plus I've got a HDD full of unnamed and unsorted 15 minute videos that I mostly only wanted a few seconds from, except for the ones that had multiple required bits.

I've edited and written, which is why no one here can ever see it a news show thing before and I was anal about making sure every take and camera angle was named. Now I've fucked myself by being lazy and not naming everything at the end of each play session.
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Is "ludwigs second phase is easier than first xDD" the biggest ruse in the history of video games?
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>>159939026
...No?

...Maybe.

I can see an argument for it, but I tend to think his first form is easier. It's the one I've gotten relatively gud at, anyway.
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>>159939232
First form is literally easier.
I can get through the first phase without getting hit consistently, second phase is LITERALLY IMPOSSIBLE
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>>159939386
It's not literally impossible, but I definitely get it.

You can basically neutralize his entire first phase moveset by dodging to 9 o' clock. In his second phase, you really need to dodge to 2 o' clock, and sometimes 3 o' clock. He has one really nasty swing in particular that cuts from his 8 to 12, that I never really worked out the tell for. Aside from that though it's pretty consistent.
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>pro release
>TOH sale
>thread is slower than before somehow

Wut happened

What did I miss
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Same whiny cunt here.
I beat him but I have no idea how. In fact I beat Ludwig multiple times but the second phase never becomes less "literally impossible". It's just sheer luck to me. First phase on the other hand, I can get through without getting hit at all 3-5 times in a row.
I wish I could just pizza cutter l2 the faces of everyone who ever said Holy Blade is easier than Accursed.
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>>159940431
2nd phase is pretty easy if you're at a higher level and can dish out decent damage to get him to the visceral states quick enough. Lower levels it's tougher though.
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>>159940568

Second phase has no hard to dodge instant kills.

The first phase charge and drop attack can both 1 hit kill someone. The charge for people without a lot of hp and the high drop will kill almost anyone. The super laser charge attack in phase 2 is too easy to dodge

I do co op Ludwig a lot and if you carry a host to second phase, you know you've won
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>>159941195
Stop triggering me. Both of those are extremely easy to read and dodge.
You can dodge the drop by literally running in a straight line. The charge requires a little positioning since you can't dodge it if you're too close to a wall, but if you just move a bit after attacking to stay at the center of the arena, dodging right is foolproof.
Of course second phase is easy as fuck, he doesn't move around a lot and he doesn't attack behind him so one player can wail on his back while the other takes a hit and they can keep alternating aggro to easily heal back to full.
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>>159941195
Those attacks are pretty easy to evade though. Just dodge when he begins to lunge, keep running until he falls down. Obviously 2nd phase is easier in co-op when he's not moving around as much for 2-3 players to chip away consistently.
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>>159940431
>Posts anime grill pictures

If I carry you through the fight will you kiss me?
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>>159941691
Maybe~
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>>159940083
FC drama stopped. Don't worry, I'm sure it'll pick right back up tomorrow.
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My favorite weapon is the Amygdalan Arm. Just wish it counted as serrated.
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>>159942801
Don't need serrated when you got dat three hit charged R2 that slams niggas and hits them as they try getting up
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>>159942217

Why, did we finally agree to ban the Saif?
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Anyone need help with Ludwig? Want to beat up horsey.
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>>159934740
>Berserk(2016)
Shit taste

You've made a horrible choice.
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>>159943395

Maybe tonight. Have a NG+ character that I will take to DLC

Or continue to farm Watchers....choices, choices
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>>159943676
I'm farming offshapes, just need a break from the monotony.
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>>159944176
>farming offshape

That's like saying you're studying to win the lottery.
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Just starting to play Bloodborne since TOH came out, wanting to do str, what goes well with it, I know BT is good with Skill for CHikage, but not sure if any of it compliments str.
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>>159945523
Arcane can, if simply for using Hunter Tools which can come in very, very handy, like the Empty Phantasm Shell arcane damage buff or Beast Roar's knockback or Augur's knockback/parry. Of course, the HMS scales with Arc as does a few other weapons, I think, like the Wheel and there's a DLC Bloodtinge Stregnth weapon.
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>>159945523
Game is simple.

You can do the following combinations:

>Pure STR
>Pure SKL
>STR/ARC
>SKL/BLT
>STR/SKL

These comboes are supported by the game. You can do some other stuff like SKL/ARC or STR/BLT, but that's not as functional or well supported.

>>159945720
Empty Phantasm Shell is garbage. Not even worth the QSBs
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>>159945792
>STR/BLT
>not supported
You're a fool if you believe that, at least after the DLC.
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>>159945523
str/skl is the best combo, str/arc is second in terms of weapon support, str/bt is similar to the idea of skl/bt in that it could be a good idea on paper but the str/bt weapon scales seperately not together, though some dlc off-hand weapons have high str requirements and scale with bt unlike skill which has low requirements to access the bt portion of the main hand weapons
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>>159945792
>Not even worth the QSBs

Tell that to Arc weak bosses my man
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>>159945792

I use shell in pvp because I don't want peoeple to think I'm a super tryhard for using paper, even though I'm walking around a million echoes with nothing to spend on.

I'll bust out the papers if everyone else use them.
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>>159945792
>>159945984
Thanks, looking at Hunter's Axe or Beast Cutter
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>>159946682
Papers/EPS only add a flat 10 damage in pvp, it's been tested
they're basically only for style
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>>159946784

Link?
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>>159946905
try it with a lad, I did the testing myself
naked it added 10 damage
when the dude was in full tombprospectors it added 10 damage
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>>159946905
A few of us from /bbg/ have tested it. And that's without any resistances.
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>>159946761
Hunter's Axe is very dependable, a little slower than some weapons, but that just means you need to learn your timings and will make you a better hunter. It's also stronk as fuck, charged R2s are great for laying waste to oncoming foes.

What the Beast Cutter lacks in raw damage it makes up for in absurd range and it's R2s can pancake enemies from afar.
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Is one starting "class" generally considered better than the others.
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>>159946971
it's a flat rate, regardless of defense, I couldn't tell you how it actually fits into the damage formula for pve vs pvp but the numbers were super cut and dry
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>>159946971
>>159946957

This isn't some discord meme right. I'll probably still use it since I'm not a gun spammer and every damage counts on my less than perfect build, but damn, 10 dmg??
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>>159947207
>discord meme
the only discord meme is perpetuating it as source of the thread's problems, this is actually just a fact that you can check yourself
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>>159947207
Yeah, it's true. We can go to n6rc and test it right now if you want.
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>>159947020
I don't think so, they're really just early stat boosts for different types of builds, depends which build you like.

>>159947207
Buffs are more towards enemies who have elemental weaknesses than players who I don't think have an inherent susceptibility to any elemental damage types. Beasts are weak to fire, Kin are weak to bolt, but players aren't particularly weak to either, so buffs wouldn't do that much anyway.
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I'm starting a new character so I'll be ringing at Old Yharnam in say... 25 minutesish. Pass is bbg1 if anyone wants to accompany me.
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>>159947860
Actually, Ringing outside of central Yharnam lamp in 15 mins. Doing:
>cleric
>gascan
>bsb
>witches
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Gimme the lore on Shadows of Yharnam. Why do they try and stop you from getting to Byrgenwerth? Why are they in Mensis fighting pigs? Why does one of them have a Tonitrus? Why snakes? Are they related to Mergo's Wet Nurse?
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>>159948665
They're Queen Yharnam's bodyguards. They always make an appearance before she does.
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>>159948665
Both times we see them, they are very near to Queen Yharnam, so they may not be shadows looming around the city (which is what I originally thought), but shadows that follow the queen.

As to what they are doing, perhaps they are looking for Rom in order to stop the ritual.
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What's the meta level?
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>>159950574
98-120, most target the upper end of that range
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>>159950714
Thanks, is 40 the soft cap for abilities still? Haven't played Bloodborne in a long time.
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Anyone for regular Amygdala? I fucking hate this boss. Ringing at the fog. Pass:

bbg
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>>159950769
The first is 25, the second is 50 for everything except Hunter Tools, as they still scale past 50.
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>>159873362
Guys i'm trying to get some tomb mould (5) so I can do the final dungeon. Apparently I need to go to Pthumeru depth 5 but It wont let me go there and I don't really fully understand how dungeon searching works etc.

send help
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>>159950829
Hmm..So if I wanted to go Str/Arc, what would you recommend?
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Here's what I got, went Cruel Fate:
Lvl:120
Vit: 36
End: 40
Str: 40
Skl: 9
Btl: 5
Arc: 40
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>>159950963
Check Great Isz chalice. There should be enough there and you should be able to make it. Technically it can be found in any depth 5 CD, but this has the best rates next to Ihyll, which I assume is what you're trying to open.
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>>159951496
>40 END
Jesus, man. You only need half of that at most. You could have put some of that into Vitality.
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>>159951593
Lol I don't know man, I'm just trying to make a decent build, I got tired of DaS3 and trying to get back into BB, I can't remember the differences and usual caps
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>>159947349
>players aren't particularly weak to either
Unless Embrace/Milkweed
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>>159949530
>>159950049
>they're literally called Shadows of Yharnum
>always thought it was referring to Yharnum city
>just fucking realized it's actually Queen Yharnum

Holy jebus I r dumb
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>>159948665
>Why do they try and stop you from getting to Byrgenwerth?
> Why are they in Mensis fighting pigs?
They're simply protecting the Queen
>Why does one of them have a Tonitrus?
It's just a mace
> Why snakes?
Because Forbidden Woods has an unfinished/underexplored snake theme.
>Are they related to Mergo's Wet Nurse?
Mergo's Wetnurse is another Royal Attendant type. Yharnam's retinue seem to wear black robes for the most part.
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>>159951682
Try to aim for Vitality between 45-50, and Endurance anywhere between base and 20. Those 20 excess End points on your build could have gone into increasing Vitality, or reaching the final caps of either Strength or Arcane.

That being said, remember that 25 and 50 are the caps.
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Anyone fancy some Co-Op or chalice dungeon shit?
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I'm about to poison Simon to death. How can I be certain not to waste all my knives? Is there a trick to abuse?
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>>159951587
I'm a retard and I don't really understand how the dungeons work. I need 4 tomb mould and all the videos Show people going to Pthemeru depth 5 and it won't let ,e go there. I just want to do the last dungeon and beat gherman ffs.
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>>159951932
Thanks, adjusted to 45/20/50/40
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Anyone mind hopping in on this last chalice boss?
Its bloodlettling beast and should grant a heavy abyssal gem.
Password is 'beast'
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>>159952162
Nice, anon. Don't mean to peddle you anymore, but if you think you'll be comfortable dropping end to 15 and throwing those 5 points into either Arcane or Vitality, go for it.

If not, stay at 20. Whatever you feel comfortable with.
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>Claws lose about 20 damage on a 25/50 build compared to a 50/25 build

Oh shit, fuck starting a new character and doing CDs, I'm using Claws on my Skill build

Sound good!? Am I missing anything vital?
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>>159952129
Have you killed Ebrietas? She drops the Great Isz chalice. You can open that, fully clear it and you'll have enough mold to open the Ihyll CD.
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>>159952290
Did you run the numbers? With HAs, it might be a greater difference.
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>>159952285
I'll think about it, the 5 End is only 10 Stam, so I think I'll go to 15 and when I get higher lvl, I'll consider it.
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>>159952475
No problem, anon. Have fun on your build!
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>>159951798
Don't worry, Anon. I thought they referred to the city before I learned about the Queen.
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>>159951821
One thing that's odd is that Wetnurse seems to protect Mergo, as it's implied that we silence her (kill?) after defeating it. This would seem open and shut if not for the fact that Yharnam bows to you after doing this. Does she want her own baby dead? Does she realize it is for the greater good? Or is there something bigger going on? I have an idea.
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Anyone want to kill Ludwig? Ringing now if anyone is up for it. Pass: bbg
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>>159952227
Anyone?
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>>159953010
>One thing that's odd is that Wetnurse seems to protect Mergo, as it's implied that we silence her (kill?) after defeating it.
I've always just thought that killing the Wet Nurse indirectly led to the death of Mergo, since a wet nurse is meant to breast feed and care for a child technically, and once the Wet Nurse is dead, nobody is there to care for Mergo anymore, so he just dies.

I think the NIGHTMARE SLAIN screen only comes up after Mergo himself stops crying too.
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>>159953335
ill be at the fog in a few
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>>159947102
>>159946957
I think garb resistance matters as well, at least with super pvp pros online ALWAYS using bolt paper on me when I use full cainhurst armour or they use fire on my full bloodied set.
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>>159953638
Test it, most retards in mensis have no idea what they're doing
Elemental defense matters for elementally gemmed weapons
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>>159953618
Cool, ringing.
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>>159951696
Wait, using the transformation runes affects your elemental defenses? I thought some anon said they didn't.
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>>159953463
That's true, but is Wetnurse really an agent of Queen Yharnam? We either directly cause Mergo's death and they just can't show it, or we cause it indirectly. Yharnam seems to be happy with the outcome, though, which seems odd. I've always assumed that Wetnurse and Yharnam were on the same side, but maybe not.
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>>159953835
ringing
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Just entered a chalice dungeon for the first time and this Undead Giant guy keeps oneshotting me. At what level are you supposed to do this shit? I'm at BL 25 i think
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>>159954062
Hmm. It's not picking you up. Are you set on worldwide, pass bbg?
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>>159954372
Aye. I checked both.
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>>159954454
I'm gonna relog, give me 30 secs.
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>>159954578
No Problem, Ill re-ring when you're ready
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>>159954743
Go for it.
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>>159954783
Ringing
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>>159954861
I don't know why it isn't working.
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>>159954980
Wanna change the Pass?
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>>159955075
Yeah. Ringing now. Pass:

jump
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Post best girl
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>>159955148
Ringing. If it doesn't work not sure what to do. Its probably my internet its a bit shite.
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>>159955380
Could be. Don't know what the problem is. Sorry for wasting your time. I appreciate it.
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>>159955582
No Worries. Ill try Ringing the regular bell just incase i get ya. Best of Luck.
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>>159955168
>best girl
>worse than her doll in every way
lol
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>>159952298
>Have you killed Ebrietas

Yes and I have the chalice but I need 4 more tomb mold to do the ritual. 4 tomb mold is stopping me from finishing this entier game so i can move on to souls 3 again and play the new dlc :(
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Anyone need any Co-Op?
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>>159953884
He's being silly, they don't affect your resistances. Would've been kewl tho.
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>>159955706
How about a compromise
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>>159956134
Yes
See >>159952227
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>>159953934
Maybe she has a grudge against the Great Ones become one knocked her up and gave her a stillborn baby? Or maybe she's glad her kid can no longer suffer.
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>>159952227
You still need a hand with the Bloodletting beast?
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>>159959235
Yeah
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>>159959423
Ringing now you ready?
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>>159959590
Yes, also ringing
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>>159959776
ah shit I'm on ng+ that'll effect the summons right?
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>>159959867
It Shouldnt, are you using SRRC?
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>>159959942
oh you're going for the regular bloodletting beast? my bad. if thats the case give me a min
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>>159960093
No, its a headless BLB in CRF chalice
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>>159960158
in that case all should be fine
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can i get any decent arcane gems without doing dungeons?i got the one from mensis but I cant find any else
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>>159960241
Make sure the password is set to 'beast'
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>>159955772
Wait, Great Isz CD shouldn't require tomb mold to open. Open that and there is some tomb mold in the first side area of layer 1. I am almost positive.
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>>159960424
I've done everything. Again might just be shitty internet. apologies if i can't help.
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>>159960494
Let me change the pass to 'bbg'
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>>159960543
ringing.
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>>159961067
Like a bag of sand
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Fuck it all to hell!

Trip is doing Rom at ng+7 anyone wanna join?

Pass is trumpin at Burgertown Lamp.
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>>159960267
Arcane gems? No.

But you can get 20% bolt gems from Fishing Hamlet. In case you didn't know putting Bolt/Fire gems in a fully physical weapon converts then to that damage type and they now scale soley off arcane.

Arcane damage really got shafted by the chalice system, there's no reliable place to get Arcane radials ever. Except cold Abyssals. And they are layer 3 of FRC dungeons, the endiest of endgames.

The only farmable source of arcane gems before Depth 5 dungeons is the Ayy's in the forest who drop 7% triangles. You can get 8% fire radials right after Bloodstarved Beast and 16.5% radials and triangles before Amelia. Bolt is in a similar boat, there's just no sources of bolt gems until Nightmare frontier which gives 8% wanings. Same with Noirishing gems, there's a 7% triangle in the woods and a 15% radial in Mensis. No other source until Rom in lower Ptumuru who gives terrible 7% Nourishings because of having 2 secondaries and no curse.

Every gem type should have been farmable in main game, at levels equal to the power of a Depth 3 dungeon.
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>>159915361
>>159915361

Well, it's all gone but I'm enjoying starting from scratch. Just grinding to get an early BoM right now. Get to rediscover this game from the bottom up instead of replaying NG+ with new 10+ weapons with good gems.

This will be a good dream.
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>>159961802
I'll give it a go. Is the ice comet basically a one shot at that point?
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>>159960158
Room for one more?

Glyph? If its swjteujh I have it open already and we won't have to wait on SRRC.
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>>159962247
Give it some more time, Jeff. One more
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>>159960479
It does. I need 5 tomb mould and I only have one.
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>>159962262
Yeah thats the glyph
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>>159962124
can i convert Kos Parasite with fire/bolt gems?
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>>159962262
>>159962616
Im ringing right now with password 'bbg'

The fucking boss keeps keeps giving me the hp depletion curse on my gems and this boss is the hardest to kill for me.
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>>159962616
Ok I'll ring on layer 3

Pass is bbg? Or something else?
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>>159962426
Got gangbanged by spiders apparently. Let me know if you get her.
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Damn! Died aswell. Ringing
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>>159962618
Alas, no.

Kos parasite exists only to see you anquish at how poorly thought out aspects of the gem system were. Even after having acsess to all Chalice's it's still a pain.
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>>159963014
D-did you die?
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>>159962583
No way, dude. Great Isz (NOT Ihyll) takes 9 ritual blood (5), 3 pearl slug and 25 arcane haze. Open that chalice and you can get tomb mold from layer 1.
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>>159963276
Piggo charged me as I entered your world.

Then I woke up dead.
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U comming, jeff? Ringing at Lamp
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>only 27% so far is a stam increase one

I KNOW ITS NOT THAT BAD BUT I WANT A KIN/BEAST ONE AT LEAST FUCK HOW LONG IS THIS GONNA TAKE
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>>159963393
THANK YOU ANON

>STR scaling +65
>Add physical ATK+15
>Increase stamina costa 3.4%
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I got an Abyssal with stamina down and +5% ATK up at low HP. Decent enough.

Are we going again?
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>>159963428
Wew lad those damages. Ice comet got me that time. I don't think I'm going to be much help.
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>>159963803
Yeah sure, ill have to ring off you if you still have the boss.
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>>159963772
Ok keep that.

Do you need more though? I could help you rush the entire dungeon again.
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If anyone wanna join on ng+7 Rom: i'm ringing at burgertown lamp.

Pass is trumpin
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>>159963920
I don't have boss sadly, but you could summon me on each layer and rush the lever.
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>>159963940
>>159964046
Alright, ill rush the levers and ring at each fog gate.
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>>159963907
You can avoid the meteors by running. Ignore the minnions and go for that fat piece of ass
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>>159964008
omw
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>>159964154
You can summon me from behind the gate and open then without even finding the lever.
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>>159964276
Didn't know that

Ringing
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>>159964480
IT HAPPENED AGAIN!

Got fucking sniped as the summoning animation started.
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Thanks, Angus... i wish it would be that easy irl ;_;

You up for laser shit famalam?
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Why doesnt my beckoning bell work at the Cathedral Ward for Amelia? Yes, I am online. I can use my resonant bell no problem.
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>>159964943
You have to oben the way to her
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>>159964889
Sure
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>>159964653
Ringing at next gate
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>>159964943
You have to open all the doors.
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>>159965021
Ringing
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>>159965138

Thanks.

Anyone want to help a casual with Amelia? pw is bbg.
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>>159965343
Probably in the cuckshed.
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>>159965343
THEY HAVE BEEN PURGED
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>pwmf22gu
Do the Watchers in level 1 really ever drop a Triangle gem?
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>>159965632
Jesus christ just go to a different fucking glyph. There are Isz glyphs for that shit you fucking goober.
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>>159965632
1% of the time they drop non-radials.

However there are plenty of Isz glyphs where the watchers drop Triangle gems 99% of the time.
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>>159965852
>>159965929
Thanks, senpai. I haven't done any Isz chalice dungeons with that character just yet though.
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lol Angus where u at?
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>>159965136
I got a shit gem
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> ATK down on an otherwise flawless gem

REEEEEEEE
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>>159966131
second lamp
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>>159966225
I got the save file reloaded if you wanna keep going
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>>159966303
What happened? Did you die?
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>>159966131
fug, i'll catch up
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>>159966575
Advent plaza my dude
>>
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Not even 20 scaled gem
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>>159966830
WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
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Garbage non abyysal from me

What did you get?
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>>159967051
>>159966923
Same, non abyssal
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>>159966830
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>>159965343
hopefully dead
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Another non abyssal
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I am putting impurity on, sorry jeff

Ringing at advent plaza

2/3 pass is trumpin folks!
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>>159967694
>>159965590
>>159965624
Pretty sure I beat your beta ass already.
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>>159966830
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>>159967735
Same again, i usually dont get two of them in a row
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>Want to Plat this game
>The Chalice Dungeon are absolute shit

Boy I sure do love fighting reruns of bosses or bosses that aren't good enough to make into the main game just so I can fight the only cool boss in there!
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What the fuck was that? I didn't think he could one-shot me, every other attack usually does 50-70% health, and that was his leg that hit me there.
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>>159968326
I think everything has one-shotted me so far
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>>159968326
It happens sometimes, that is why dislike fighting him, he has ghost hands
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>>159968418
HE FUCKING ONE SHOTTED ME AFTER YOU DIED
REEEEEEEEEEEEE
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Damn that was anticlimatic. Angus, let's get one more hunter

Who is up for ng+7 TOR? Pass is trumpin at advent plaza
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>>159968686
That time I fucked into the pillar and couldn"t get up
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>>159968810
I'm farming Headless right now, but save a spot for me VS Wetnurse. I have a rapid poison wheel that will chunk her health by % values.
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>>159968810
Did you get him
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did you get him?
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I got another fucking non abyssal
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>>159969356
Nah, got os by a fucking swipe fml
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>>159967908
>he thinks chalices aren't main game
>he thinks chalice bosses don't have relevance
>he thinks chalices themselves don't have relevance
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>>159969474
> 65 STR scaling
> 10.5 physical attack
> 3.3% stamina costs up

Finally something good. What did you get?
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>almost get to invade every 10-20 seconds again
What happened?
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>>159969727
Another non abyssal
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>>159969792
the game+dlc is on sale
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>>159969532
Theyre just shits who can't handle a little bit of half health. Dunno y they're so angsty when from gave them slightly more powerful droplets in hamlet.
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A Gregor out of the blue! Thx my dude.

I'll get some pizza now. M/b Im on again later. I'll let u know
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>>159970156
>been spending months deciding whether or now to buy the dlc
>its never goes on sale
>buy it 2 weeks ago
>IT JUST FUCKING NOW HAS A SALE

JUST FUCK MY SHIT UP FAMILY MEMBER
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>>159969935
Anything good?
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>>159970603
The game has decided to never drop me an abyssal again
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>>159969727
Litterally the exact same gem.
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>>159970847
I got my first Triangle gem from the boss
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I just spent hours grinding to buy an early BoM just to remember how much I hate this fucking thing.
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>>159970551

i got it today. A sale is nice but it's only like a $12 save.
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>>159970970
sounds like you're retarded
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>>159970949
Any good?
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>>159971156
Its ass
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>>159971087
Eh, been a long time since I played. Thought it'd be a fun weapon.
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Think im done farming for abyssals, i got a good one.
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Anyone want co-op? Just hit me up senpaitachi
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>31 seeds within 1 1/2 hours
Thanks, I guess.
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>tfw went to ER and x-rays say I got ankle fracture from playing in the woods

Is this how gherman feels?
holy fuck I'm getting upper body out of it but it is tiring going upstairs or using one leg only for sustaining body weight
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Rom anyone? Pass bbg, ringing at lantern
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>>159974023
>mfw I had a terrible ankle injury that kept me out of school for six months

I feel your pain, anon. How bad is it? I was on a zimmer frame and cast up to my thigh, fierce stuff.

Speedrun strat for getting downstairs real quick: slide on your ass down the steps and pull yourself up at the bottom, quicker and safer than hopping down on one foot or crutches.
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>>159974231
On my way!
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>>159974231
Wow, I couldn't dodge that, holy shit
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>>159974724

It's all good anon, she had nothing left in the tank after that.
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>>159974836
Ah, you got her then? Good stuff!
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Anyone wanna tag along through forbidden woods with me? I'm doing a full item sweep with a friend and ganking PvPers for lulz. Pass is bbg1.
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>>159975110
Just bought A ps4 and Bloodborne an hour ago, so only question. Pouring all my stats into the one for guns is the worst Idea right?
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>>159975415
Sorry, didn't mean to link.
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>>159975415
Fuck off and do your first playthrough without any guides.
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>>159975415
see
>>159932871
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>>159975415
This being your first run, it's probably for the best if you build for strength, skill, or both. You get the largest variety of weapons that way, and it helps to see what kind of weapon you like.

Also, provided you haven't been already, get out of the general before you get spoiled. This game is best experienced blind.
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>>159975676
>>159975732
Thanks, but I've already been long spoiled on everything Bloodborne. Still eager to get into it.
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Anyone wanna do the second half of Yahagur, including the three Hunters and One Reborn?

Ringing at Yahagur Church lamp, pass bbg
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>>159975969
Yahagur Chapel lamp rather, not "church"
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>>159975969
Comin your way mon
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Is the server down for anyone else? I get a "Can't verify PS+" error but my subscription is normal.
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>>159975905
putting all points into bloodtinge isnt a totally bad idea, it's just that your early game will be really tough because all the bloodtinge weapons are obtained about halfway through the game. that combined with this being your first playthrough may make it unnecessarily difficult
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I-I need help with the One Reborn as well
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Imagine the damage you could do with a Stake Driver fitted with 3 of these and a maxed out Beasthood bar.
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Forgot pic, a spooky ghost dropped it
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>>159976331
You gimme a sec dude, helping that guy kill it, drop me a pass and I'll be with ye
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>>159976158

Good show friend

Now to backtrack and pick up all the chunks...
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>>159975905
>>159976325
BT is fun.
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I'll never be able to beat gheeman.
It's just bot possible.
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>>159976996
I love just being able to annihilate a boss every so often, feels damn good
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>>159976331
Still need a hand?
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>play pthumerian chalice dungeon
>get to the final boss pthumerian descendant
>he looks pretty tough
>actually you just wait for him to attack you and press l2
>literally falls for it every time
>repeat viscerals
>ded
What the fuck, I don't think i've ever come across such a pushover boss in any of the souls games i've ever played.
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>>159978035
If you don't have parry timings down perfectly he's a pain in the fucking ass
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>upgrading Amy arm

Will I regret this meme?
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>>159978251
Really? His moves are pretty telegraphed, hell even a few of my L2's were just random and it still got him.

I don't even think I got hit once, it's pretty strange for a boss to be this easy. It was ridiculous.
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>it's a run through most of upper cathedral because it's a dhitty zone episode

Thanks From
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>>159978658
Eh, some bosses are easy for people, some are hard. I mean, as awkward as Amygdala can be, I more or less have that shit down but people ask for help all the time and a huge chunk of SRRC co-op I get is for Defiled Amy.
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Anyone mind helping at Micolash?
Password is bbg
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>>159978974
>not the best, spookiest area in the game
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>>159979139
Nevermind, I thought I would need it but I cheesed him with beast roar
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>>159979139
On me way m8
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>>159978457
Nope, it's a fun as fuck weapon
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Anyone bored enough to help me with street sharks and maybe Orphan? I've beaten them before but then went into NG+ without getting the Bowblade and I missed Old Hunter Essence so I'm trying to collect 'em all with my arcane build
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Upper Cathedral Ebrietas anyone?

Ringing outside fog, pass bbg
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>>159980270
street sharks down, on my way to orphan
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>>159980270
>>159981746

I'm up for NG+ Orphan, pass?
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>>159980620
On my way dude

>>159981746
Pass? Ebby-chan shall soon die
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>>159981984
Oh sorry, THIS character isn't NG+ orphan, this one is just NG for the platinum.

>>159981993
>>159981746
Also I am being a shitter and taking forever to actually get to him, but pass is bbg if you want to come anyway
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>>159981993
Go do Orphan, Eb all set
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>>159982164

So you're ringing in Hamlet then?
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>>159982174
Ah, if you're sure m8, good luck!

>>159982164
On my way, at Lighthouse Hut or first lamp?
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>>159982390
>>159982319
Lighthouse hut but I'm currently in the caves trying to remember how to find orphan

figures the one time I get speedy responses is when I'm being a scrublord, sorry about this
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>>159982541
alright the shortcut is set up
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Sorry if you didn't want to watch the preboss video, I just love it
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Thanks lads, a sporting hunt it was
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>>159982879
>>159983202
Would never begrudge a preboss cutscene, they're all good

Glad to help!
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>>159982879

Nah, I like it.

The post fight cinematic is cooler though.
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>43 VIT
>20 END
>70 ARC

Is this good for an arcane build? I was gonna put the rest into strength and skill to wield the HMLB.
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>>159983347

If you don't need 20 end, drop it to 15
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>>159983347
I wouldn't bother with END unless you really cannot spare a slot for the +15% stamina rune
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>>159983393
>>159983434
Alright, if I drop END to 15, where should I invest the remaining 5?
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>>159983580
Vit, no question
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>>159983580
I'd put some into skill/str so you can use some other weapons as Bolt/Fire/Arcane gemmed swaps

for variety and fun more than optimization (unless you want to argue for the incredible value of midfight pvp weapon swaps)
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Anyone up for a dlc playthrough? im at the first lamp and password is bbg
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>>159984238

NG or +?
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>>159984289
NG
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>>159984238
I'll join you
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Anyone want to team up and kill Orphan? I'm ringing outside the fog. Pass:

bbg
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>>159984729
What level you at familio? I don't want to get the downscale dick too hard.
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>>159984803
90 right now. NG.
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>>159984729
Be there ASAP
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LONG LIVE THE KING

gas the beasts
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>>159984729
I just got helped with Orphan so it's my duty to help in return!
...Unless I'm too late
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Thanks for the help! He went down fast.

Anyone need non-chalice help?
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>>159984910
I'm sorry but Hitler would not use a fucking chikage
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Ringing at NG+ Shadows of Yharnum outside fog

Pass bbg
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I'm a STR build.

VIT 50
END 15
STR 50
SKL 12
BLT 6
ARC 7

Level 90 currently. Where would you guys put points?
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>>159985407
There's something inherently funny to me about the image of Hitler swinging around a katana. I had to.
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>>159985489
skl or arc, arc to 15-20 or skill to 25 or lower (depending on the level you want to stop at)
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>>159985285
Glad to help!

>>159985428
ALL THIS CO-OP OMW
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>>159985428
I'm ringing.
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Wow, Ludwig wouldnt let me fucking dodge.
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>All this co-op
>on the one day I decided to go out
You little shits planned this didn't you
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>>159985590
>>159985608

Thanks for coming guys

Tobias, how are you downscaled...
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>>159985887
Glad to help!

My secret is I'm BL240 with mad ass gems, I wanted to take him to 540 but I fear I might not get the SRRC co-op I still get (and very regularly, too)

>>159985775
>going out when you could play bloodborne
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alright so how am i supposed to dodge ebrietas' charge. i dont remember how i did it before.
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>>159985660
Im at the research hall lamp now
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>>159986105
There a pass?
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Looking to do Lower Ailing Loran so I can get the Root and buy Uncanny Burial Blade (that's the best one right?)

Is this gonna take forever?
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about to my first playthough since having cleared the dlc when it launched, thinking about doing an arcane build. any tips/advice for an arcane build?
and I'm assuming the kos parasite is pretty much the only choice for arcane, maybe the moonlight sword?
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>>159986638
Every weapon is ARC viable due to the gem system. You can put an ARC gem in any weapon and make it scale off ARC instead of its initial stat.
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>>159986035
Dodge to the side once and then back once. Literally time the dodge like you would normally think you should, and then hold back and spam dash.
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>>159986802
save for the ones that are split damage, that is. I believe weapons like burial blade or blades of mercy are not really useful because not only do ele gems not convert all their damage, but their arc scaling is meh
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>>159986802
wew i actually forgot the gem system is a thing in this game. but thank you, that certainly will make the character more interesting not being locked into only one or two weapons.
how deep in the dungeons do i need to go to pull decent arcane gems?
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>>159987264
All the way.

That being said, your job when you get there is pretty easy. Arcane farming isn't bad at all.
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>>159986638
Holy Moonlight Sword and Boomhammer can both be added to an Arcane build if you have 25/12+ Str/Skl and use Nourishing gems on them.
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>>159987392
yeah the farming im not concerned about, its more the process of going through the dungeons yet again just to get the most out of your build/weapons thats a little frustrating.

>>159987613
what's the meta at? still 100ish? I may end up going that route, I rememeber really like the moonlight sword's moveset and its partially the reason i felt compelled to go with arcane this playthrough
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>>159988027
80-120, 98 here.
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I just lost 300k blood echoes to those living failures. I spent the whole fight looking for my blood echoes and they werent there.
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>>159988027
Meta is 80-120 depending what you like. People around here recommend 98 because it can invade that entire range, and it also avoids invading the BL150 Reddit memers. That being said, a lot of regular PvPers fall somewhere between 100 and 115.
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>>159988186
>>159988556
thanks, /bbg/ is best general

what did you guys think of ashes of ariandel? while unfair to make this comparison, it seemed pretty meh (outside of the atmosphere and the bosses) compared to old hunters
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>>159989231
Didn't buy it, heard it was mediocre and doesn't save the base game from being shit.
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>>159988356
I've had that happen a few times, it's infuriating. They were there, but obscured by the ridiculous foliage, it isn't your fault you lost them. Honestly, 300k won't mean a thing once you open up a depth 5 root chalice, you'll be drowning in echoes.
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>>159989231
Even in terms of atmosphere and bosses I thought AoA was hot garbage.

It was short and easy, and while the areas were alright there wasn't enough interesting loot to make exploring feel worth it, as most paths just led to a soul or some other random consumable.

Bosses were downright insulting, with one boss being a jazzed up NPC encounter, and the other being three watered down fights instead of one good one. I would have rather had Friede have been an interesting, fully fleshed out boss by herself than have the three phases of 'alright.' For a DLC with only one real boss fight, I would have rather had them go for quality instead of quantity. Its like they tried to find a middle ground between the two, but the end result is just very little, and that very little being pretty shit.
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Killed Loran Darkbeast

Can I remove this pos chalice now? Nothing in here besides the root right, the uncanny weapons don't matter to this Skl character
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>>159989768
Yes if you've gotten all the materials, mainly the Red Jellies.
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>>159989231
Level design was great but it lacked in pretty much everything else sadly.
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>>159989231
I'm watching an LP of it before I even consider buying it and I'm not terribly impressed so far.
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>>159989501
that describes it well

>>159989762
i quite liked the atmosphere, it really did look and feel like a world rotting away. but i agree with pretty much all the other points you raise, it was way too short, and the lesser boss was frankly a terrible boss in all aspects. and while I do agree on your sentiments on friede, i still enjoyed the fight itself.

>>159990180
you're not missing much by not playing it tbqh
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Thanks for the runthrough Albatross
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>>159991062
Yeah, no problem!
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Why is the bloodmoon so blurry in the normal world but in the hunters dream when you fight moon babe it's crisp?
Having a png in the sky shouldn't that demanding.
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>>159992126
It gets fixed in the pro patch
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>>159992126
Different skies, actually. The Bloodmoon is sky, at least to me, is the cosmos. The Hunter's Dream sky is the standard Nightmare sky, Hunter's Nightmare and Nightmare Frontier look the same.

I always got the impression the Bloodmoon sky was supposed to look that weird, blurry, bloomy, unpleasant. I never got the impression it looked bad, just weird.
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>>159988356
You can replace them easy by farming the slime boys in the Lecture Hall, just slap some Moon Runes on, a thrust weapon or some bolt gems, go to town.
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How active is bloodborne friday nights through saturday morning? Going to be going on in half an hour or so and hopefully playing for a few hours. Not really looking for exclusive pvp, mostly getting closer to the finish of the game, and maybe some co-op / chalices. If I'm near level 70 and I just entered the nightmare of mensis, will it be active enough tonight?
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>>159985489
ARC to 10 for the Wheel, it's one of the funnest weapons in the game. SKL to 14 for Church Pick.
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>>159995645
post password if you want coop with bbg
lotta people thirsty for coop here
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>>159995645
>Nightmare of Mensis
Yeah, it's active. Lots of invasions going on there.

Just an hour ago on my BLT build, I got invaded within 10 seconds of entering. Didn't even make it to the first lamp.
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>>159987264
> how deep in the dungeons do i need to go to pull decent arcane gems?

The very first dungeon has fire gems which will convert your weapon to fire damage and make it scale off arcane.
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>>159995742
The frenzy area at the very start getting bites? I used to love invading PvE fags over there until PvE fags pretty much went extinct.
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>>159996735
PvE is in the chalices now.

Although there was so much co-op in this thread earlier on you could have invaded those.
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>>159998153
Wait, I could perform Adversarial Search and find targets?

I might just have to unleash my fulled gemmed Bloodletter on the Chalices.
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>>159998232
99% of the time you'll just end up in hizz, no one does sinister chalices.
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>>159998803
Yeah but people ring bells to call for help and that calls in maidens. There's also root spelunkers who might have caused bells.
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>>159998232
Sinister Bell Maidens don't spawn in story chalices iirc. So most of your invasions will be in root dungeons, which are rare to find.
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Going through my screenshots and holy cow, I was downscaled during this summon?

I was only 89, what does that make the host?
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>>160000062
You can't really tell what level they are unless you ask them, but it's usually somewhere lower than 50-60. You won't get downscaled if it's a random, but the names look familiar so I'm guessing it was from here with a password.
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>>160000062
The resources pastebin in the OP has a link in it that can tell you multiplayer ranges for any given level. It also has a sheet that tells you what level someone is based on how many echoes they dropped on death, which is also nice to have.
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>calls himself ninja
>uses a fucking wheel
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>>160000885
That's pretty accurate.
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>>159999881
I'm pretty sure they do so long as you use a beckoning bell. It's not a certainty though.
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>>160000885
All my characters are autismally named/fashion'd out.

I actually just went ahead and made a "Duke Eckhart to macth my "Duchess Eckhart".

Duchess us Reiter, Duke will be Chikage.
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Is it really worth it to go BL 98 besides fight clubs ? PVP is pretty scarce in mensis now but still active at BL 40-50.

My problem is that I kinda want to up my ARC character to get the moonlight sword but it's kinda sad if there's no one to use it against

Should I bite the bullet ? Also it's sure it will make abyssal farming easier


Also if anyone wants to join against Yharnam, pw is bbg at BL 46
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>>160002787
80-120 gets fairly quick action in Frontier and Mensis, the reason to go that high is to get decent Vit and at least one damage stat to 50. Around 40 you're basically invading newbies and under-equipped players, which is Twinking. Going higher you'll find more experienced players with better gear.
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HOW THE FUCK DO I KILL THE GIANT SHARK PEOPLE IN FISHING HAMLET WHAT THE FUCK
>>
Is any of you farming for abyssals right now? I just met a random at a very familiar chalice, using fire pizza cutter and all.
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>>160003351
There's other players outside of here who ring in FRC. I've met someone 3 times farming a known Heavy Abyssal glyph. Another farming Watchers twice.
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>>160003345
For the first one shoot the barrels as he comes out, there's some timing to it so don't do it too soon
For the second one run, hide, backstab, repeat. Be careful not to hide inside the room with the lantern because he'll kill Simon and you'll lose some dialogue
For the well... get all the help you can
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>>160003418
I wanted to know if he was from here because I want heavys
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>>160003590
Me too anon, me too.

It's probably my turn to host as well, I've been mooching off people for the last couple days. But I can't play right now.
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>>160003590
Then set up a glyph and ask here if anyone wants to join. If they ran the glyph themselves they'll usually host once you get a good drop.
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>>159965590
>>159965624
>>159967694
>be executioner
>worship a pissed-off corpse and space cockroaches
>have one job and somehow fuck it up so hard they all have to commit sudoku to get something even passably okay

>be vileblood
>not only worship Oedon, the most powerful god in the setting, but also actively work towards bringing him into the material world to reward their efforts

Even the League of Garbagemen is better than your shitty covenant.
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>>160003117
Alright. It's true that I hadn't access to mensis on my BL 98 characters because they were all on NG+ and it's been some time since I've done pvp. I've just checked frontier with one o my characters and was invaded really fast and often so I'll just go 98 too on my ARC character

Is 25/50 good for moonlight greatsword ? You only need 12 skill right ?
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>>160003967
Yes, 14 Skill for the Church Pick is a good idea too.
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Anyone need help with anything?
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>>160004284
Yes I need help with Ihyll yharnam please. Pw is bbg
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>>160004660
Ringing.
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>>160003550
I skipped those fuckers, now I'm at the one that pounces at you when you go for the guy that fires skulls.
I'm completely unable to dodge any of their attacks, they hit me no matter what.
>>
What are my Vilebloodbros doing this morning?
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>>160004660
She just wouldn't let me have that charged R2.

BL? Felt like she was hitting me a little harder than usual.
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>>160004871
58 and upping
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>>160004881
>58
Well that certainly explains it.
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>>160004871
Fuck the bitch respawned under my feet
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>>159995694
>>159995742

Yep, thanks, you guys were right. Seemed plenty active, went through and beat micolash and mergo's wet nurse and then went back and co-oped a bit.

Is it a bad idea to do the old hunter dlc before fighting gherman if this is my first run through? I keep hearing about how it's way harder than the base game or something. Just beat ludwig and he didn't seem too bad though.
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>>160005103
>Is it a bad idea to do the old hunter dlc before fighting gherman if this is my first run through?
No.

>I keep hearing about how it's way harder than the base game or something.
It is.

>Just beat ludwig and he didn't seem too bad though.
At BL70+ he's not a big deal. But neither is Gherman if that's our comparison.
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>>160005167
Sounds good then, I'll try to run through the rest of the DLC this weekend. Maybe I am a bit too high of a BL level, haha. I'm really fucking impressed by the DLC so far though, looks like they definitely didn't half ass it.
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>>160004962
>no rock

Curse you, queen. Thanks anon. I can now proceed to abyssal farming yay !
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>>160005365
>I can now proceed to abyssal farming yay !
Sarcasm? No one's making you do it at BL58, anon.
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>>160005438
I'm on layer 2 of kkv8 and now level 63. Hope I hit 40 vit before layer 3
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>>160005789
Clear the first room of the standard Ailing Loran chalice, or even just the lecture room in Lecture Hall 1st floor a couple times, and you could hit BL70 in a few minutes.
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>>160005897
Gonna do that thanks. 31 vit is not quite enough for BPS
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>>160005975
Pungent Blood Cocktails make the fight way easier.
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How do we fix the Rakuyo?
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>>160006678
We fix the NetCode
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There's been a huge upswing in Heavy Abyssal farming the last few days. I hope you lads are actually running the numbers and verifying that you're not just wasting your time.

>705 / 76
Yeesh.
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>>160006678
It's already fine.
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>>160006678
Definitely the disgusting Phantom range it has. Maybe the speed or damage on certain attacks.
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So, I wanna start a BLT character, but I played STR so much, that I don't really want to use the bloodletter.
I'm stuck with the chikage, am I right?

Has anyone any fashion tips for not looking like a lame ass weaboo vampireboy and still having the more elegant stile of the chikage?
A brutish big guy with chikage would look even more ridiculous.

Also, I guess 50 blt, 25 skl is the way to go?
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>>160007126
Use this: >>159927098


You can use all of the BLT weapons.
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>>160007126
Bloodletter doesn't need Strength, just 14. Military Veteran is the best starting class for it. 25 Skill for the Chikage is pretty useless, the untricked mode is terrible and you could just unzip instead of doing visceral attacks after parrying. Butcher Set is pretty brutal, looks good paired with the Bloodletter. 14/15/50 Str/Skl/Blt is really all you need.
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>>160007126
Hunter Garb with pieces from other sets like Maria's and Old Hunter's look good. Gehrman's Garb too.
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Anyone willing to help with Headless BLB and Yharnam?
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>>159923032
>Armor
Crown of the Darkmoon, everything else is up to fashionsouls
>Weapon
Threaded Cane and Warden Twinblades
>Shield
Bonewheel Shield
>Spell
Tranquil Walk of Peace or Augur of Ebretias
>Ring
Rings that change your character color
>Boss
Artorias and Ludwig
>NPC
Lautrec/Patches
>Basic Enemy
Silver Knights
>Area
Catacombs
>Covenant
Blueberries or Mound Makers
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>>160006845
My AR increased by five
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When should I tackle the DLC content? Currently at around lvl 80.
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>>160008378
70
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>>160008378
Now's a good time to start
The DLC is 60-100
Depending on your build and how good you are
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>>160008378
Level 80 to 100 is fine.
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>>160006036
Got him by spamming executionners glove. I'm at layer 3 now. If anyone wants to farm abyssals in kkvk8gsj, feel free to join I will keep the bell ringing.

What is a good abyssal gem though ?
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>>160009042
pw is bbg
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What's a good attack rating for a saif at level 90?
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Just getting back into the game, not sure which build I want to go with. I got TOH but never finished it, is the Beast and Kin transformations any good?
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>>160009042
+65 Strength Scaling with +15 Flat Phys or any % atk vs Open Foes/Charge Attack. I don't know if there's vs Beast/Kin for Heavies but those are good for PvE.
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>>160009154
Beast mode is best for Strength/Quality, Kin mode for Arcane. Kin is good in PvP, Beast not as good in PvP but wrecks PvE.
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>>160009335
I was talking about cold abyssals, sorry. I'm doing it for an ARC build. Any difference between requirements in gems for ordinary weapons (cane, saw spear) and moonlight sword ?
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>>160009134
Whatever 50 Skill or 50 Arcane gives you with optimal gems. Should be around 600.
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>>160009460
Can you still use Hunter Tools while Kin?
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>>160009515
Yeah I thought kkvk was a Cold Abyssal glyph. Mind if I tag along?

>Any difference between requirements in gems for ordinary weapons (cane, saw spear) and moonlight sword ?
HMLS gets so much Phys (it's essentially a Str/Qual weapon with Arc flavor) that it's really best to use Nourishing gems on it.

If you have only the requisite phys stats for it, gemming it for pure Arc can be passable, though.
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>>160009515
Sorry got glyphs mixed up. +65 Arcane Scaling with Flat damage depending on the primary type, vs Open Foes/Charge Attack, vs Beast/Kin. HMS needs 21.5% Nourishings from Amy, which only come in Triangles and Waning unless they're Offshape Radials which are very rare.
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>>160009685
Please join. I'm gonna savescum in case the drop is shitty so you should have many opportunities.

Alright I don't have the HMGS requirements or even done the DLC at all yet so we'll save it for later. I just want to do damages with my arccane. I'll be ringing shortly
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>>160009568
Yes, also damage vs Kin/Beast doesn't effect either modes. So don't worry about serrated weapons if you're a Beast.
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>>160009685
Ringing

>>160009724
Thanks I'll be looking for that one then
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>>160009772
Alright cool. Ringing via SRRC.
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>>160009515
Oh, and most converted weapons will need 2 Cold Abyssal and whatever element you're converting it to. Fire Abyssal Wanings from Hotdog or 27.2% Fire Triangle from Watchers, Bolt Abyssals from Abhorrent or 27.2% Bolt Triangles, and 27.2% Arcane Traingles. Ebbi drops Arcane Abyssals but farming her could be difficult. Ludwig's Blade and Kos Parasite only needs one Cold Abyssal and a 23.1%+15 Bone Ash Hunter Radial.
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>>160009958
>>160009853
Ok I dropped a +65 arc, +5.6 atk near death and -5.6% against beasts so I guess it's shit since there is no element. Unless it's good for a pure arcane cane ?
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>>160009791
Thanks, now I have to decide between Beast or Kin lol
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>>160010072
Secondaries don't matter much to be honest but you could store it in the Online Storage and keep farming till you get something better. If you don't, you could grab it back. It's okay for PvP since you aren't fighting Beasts.
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>>160010072
>so I guess it's shit since there is no element
You don't need an elemental secondary for your Cold Abyssal; CA's are specifically for getting better elemental damage from your weapon by increasing its Arcane Scaling.

Most weapons are better with one or two CAs and an elemental gem or two.

If you do get a CA with an elemental secondary, you can use it to convert the weapon and then slot two more CSs into it as well, but I don't know if that ever actually leads to bigger damage than two CAs and one elemental.
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>>160010135
Gonna do that. Thanks
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>>160010191
Room for one more?
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>>160010178
>slot two more CSs
CAs*, of course.
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Is my weapon durability drained from pvp / invasions?
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>>160010283
>does hitting shit with my weapon damage it?

leave to an animeposter to ask something retarded
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>>160010264
Yes but >>160010135 how do I do that ? If I upload the save with the gem, it will overwrite the one with the boss still alive. Unless we can have multiple copies ? HELP
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>>160010365
Most people have a USB and use the Cloud, for a total of two spare saves.
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>>160010365
If you have a USB, you could store the save with the boss alive into either the Online Storage or USB. When you get an okay drop, you store it in the other one.
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>>160010414
Ok I grabbed my key. One minute so I can save it and then I reroll the boss
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>>159931982
template?
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>>160010465
>>159923032
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>tfw so bad at pvp can't win a single game with maxed blood gems.
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>>160010450
OK BOSS IS ALIVE GET IN HERE.
There are two people now right ? pw is bbg
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>>160010635
>two people now right?
Sounds like it's me and another anon, yeah
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>>160010728
Ok I hear one of you coming. I'll be waiting for the other one then
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>>160008467
>>160008408
>>160008426
Alright thanks. Going in blind boys.
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>>160010752
I just ganked by Vilebloods so I'll have to re-ring.
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>>160010846
>already knows that he is in the level range
>going in blind
That's not how it works, you little shit.
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>>160010869
Alright
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>>160010896
Casuals all over the shop.
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>arc + 35

Rerolling
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>>160011147
Ringing in a minute. It will be faster now that the technology is domesticated
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>>160011204
Ringing. We should do a new thread, shouldn't we ?
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>>160011204
SRRC should never take more than a minute or two.

Blanking and re-ringing every 45 seconds or so really helps, but the practice isn't widespread yet..
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>>160011274
Oh ok I'll do that then
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>arc +35

Rerolling. Are you still there, second anon ?
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>>160011532
>running the fight again without me
Well that's fucked up.
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>>159873362
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>>160011581
People say I'm and egotistical bitch IRL too, so I'll wait for you this time. Ringing now
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>>160011646
Would appreciate it.

Alright ringing via SRRC.
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>>160011646
I meant selfish, fuck the false friends
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>>160011703
So still no new thread ? What is the protocol in this situation. Also still waiting
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>>160011968
>Also still waiting
Yeah it's taking forever this time. Trying the Blank/re-ring trick?
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>>160011995
Yeah yeah I'm doing it regularly, our other friend arrived quick and he's amusing himself with the lift
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>>160011995
Well I'm sorry my dear anon but it's taking too long it's been like 20 minutes
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Ok I only have shit gems now so I guess I'll take the +65 and redo the CD now
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>>160012621
Thanks for hosting
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>>160012643
No problem, I think it won't take long before I redo the CD. Sorry for other anon though
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Anyone wanna tag along through Forbidden Woods? Pass is bbg1
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>>160012643
If you want some more I'm again at layer 3 and ringing in one minute
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Cold abyssals in kkvk8gsj hosting right now. Pw is bbg
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Is orphan harder than flamelurker?
I never beat flamelurker without glitching but now that I beat orphan, I wonder if I should go back and fight flamelurker fair and square.
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>>160014194
Yes he is. Flamelurker is actually not that hard if you rely on rolls rather than blocking. Orphan is just pure nightmare
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Fresh bread
>>160015209
>>160015209
>>160015209
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