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Museum edition


>New Expansion cards
http://www.hearthpwn.com/guides/1840-mean-streets-of-gadgetzan-hearthstones-fourth

>Deck lists, news etc:
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http://hearthstoneplayers.com/
http://hearthhead.com/
http://hearthpwn.com/

>Arena Help
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>Open Tournaments:
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http://zotac-cup.com

>Deck Tracker:
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>Upcoming Hard Mode Brawl:
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>Hearthstone World Championship:
http://us.battle.net/hearthstone/en/esports/tournament/hearthstone-world-championship-2016

Old bread: >>159510472
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>>159537206
First for fuck priests and FUCK CAPTCHA
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Daily reminder.

Blizzard take notes.
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Jelly?
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Second for Shamans kys.
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This expansion is going to be terrible. Also everyone gets a 1 mana 2/2 now, wow.
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>Get Murlocalypse

Yeah sure I really wanted to feel like shooting myself in the head after losing my next 20 games to complete this shit.
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>>159537376
I'm playing Duelyst, I'm more than satisfied with being able to reach S rank with Sajj decks.
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>>159537173
It give you more cards. The goal is to have fun.

I hope that Evolve Shaman get some good bones outside of that 6 drop.
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When are we getting our Pavel packs
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>PAVEL BEATS THE DR WITH A BIG GUY

>PAVEL BEATS THE DR WITH A BIG GUY

>PAVEL BEATS THE DR WITH A BIG GUY

>PAVEL BEATS THE DR WITH A BIG GUY

YOU CAN'T MAKE THESE STORIES UP
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What is the bump limit exactly?
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>>159537534
Yes it already did
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>tfw didnt get golden lego in 2 years
>tfw didnt open regular one in months
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Do I need to buy BRM if I wanna play dragon priest when new expansion comes out?
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>>159537479
>It give you more cards. The goal is to have fun.
You already had six cards that does this one exact same thing. Two copies of each makes up half the fucking deck. You're straight stupid if you think you need more. Saying "but fun" doesn't address the argument at all, you're just deflecting.
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>>159537474

>Filter:Merlock
>Select everything.
>Casual mode
>Play like 4 games.

Easy 100g
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>>159537635
I'm asking for numbers though.
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>>159537534
750 posts before the thread fall in no more bumping

250 images is the max number of images.

I recommend you to get the expansion 4chan X for Chrome, it give you the infos.
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>>159537649
Yeah
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>>159537479
No no it isnt.

Its boring because its just two vanilla common minions clumped together. Neferian was exciting at the time because burgle was a new mechanic and even now strictly takes spells.
This minion brings nothing new to the table, no new synergies to burgle decks just, heres an extra 1-2 cards that you might not even get because it can be punished.
I can just run shadowstep, brann or raptor if I wanted that and have far more synergy then before.
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Queued into 5 tempo mages with a perfect start in a row. Fuck I'm pissed.
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>>159537206
>best card revealed is a worse zombie chow

i have not once been hyped during spoiler season. only kazakus, finja, and the fel orc remotely interests me so far
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>>159537887
This 6 drop drop a 6 drop. Turn 7 you get two random 7 drops. Turn 9 you get Two 7 drops and one of them is probably Confessor, and then you get another random legendary.

It's amazing.
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>>159537479
>I hope that Evolve Shaman get some good bones outside of that 6 drop.
That 5 mana 3/5 taunt that costs less if your enemy has 3 minions?
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>>159537923
>finja

You are quite the memer anon
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>>159537923
Fag
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Are you guys ready for Dr. Anduin to be the evil big orc Thrall?
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>>159537704
I don't know, why are you asking me?
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>>159538006
No I was talking about the 3 mana rogue legendary not racketeer.
Racketeer can actually be really nasty in rogue battlecry decks because they can just spam 6 drops with shadowstep, caster and brann combos.
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When I play dragon priest post-expansion I'm going to imagine Anduin is taking a deep dicking from Wrathion's fat dragon cock, and mustering the power of the light to defeat his opponent right as he has a hands-free anal orgasm from his delicious brown dragon boyfriend.

Anyone else?
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>>159538023
It's a good 3 drop yeah. But usually you want stuff that cost 6 with discounted to get 7 drops to then get 8 drops.

Getting a 6 drop is not bad, but you have really bad 6 drops now, with the Racketeer being a 1/1 6 drop.
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>>159537923
You mean better.
Also not getting excited about Assasin of 5, staying alive.
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>>159538042
how is that card a meme? seems like it could work well in paladin and shaman murloc based decks. getting two murloc knights into hero power gives an obscene board, makes everyfin more playable, and maybe help fetch those murlocs for the anyfin combo. lord knows how many times i had 2 murlocs in my last 8 cards. of course, finja might be trash like how most cards are
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I've put mad bomber in my priest deck and now I can't stop winning.

I think I've saved the day lads, thank me later.
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>>159537479
>>159538384
>Moonglade Portal into this shit
Can't wait.
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>>159538383
>hands-free orgasm
Every well adjusted man has those, dumb cuck. It's called sex.
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>>159538661
>gives an obscene board,
Paladin has no problem generating obscene board against slow warrior. Shaman doesn't have good murlocs for that.
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If Finja attacks and summons two Warleaders, does he get the buff during the attack or afterwards?
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>>159538782
Ironforge portal can Summon a 1/1 too, Druids deserve this shit
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>>159538782
I hope that 5 drops get a 1/1 too. The worst 5 drop right now is a 2/3 Murloc.
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>>159538870
After, note he has to kill the minion to trigger it.
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>>159537484
Did a single non-vatnik slav pick this guy?
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>>159537649
And how else are you planning on playing a dragon priest without reliable dragons?
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>>159538870
After. The trigger is "Attack and kill (also survive)"
You need to kill with a 2 power base line before summoning stuff
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>ENEMY WARRIOR HAS A RAGNAROS ON BOARD AND ONLY RAGNAROS
>I HAVE THE BOARD FULL OF BEASTS
>ENEMY BRAWLS
>RAGNAROS SURVIVES

I FEEL LIKE JUMPING OUT OF A FUCKING WINDOW
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>>159538870
considering he has to kill something first it'll be after. i do wonder how his death would resolve if he summons warleaders. would he get healed by the buffs and survive?
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>>159536213
>Amaz
>On shifter Zerus
>OMG THE NEXT UNSTABLE PORTAL

Unstable portal is only good because it reduces the minion cost by 3.

>Kripp
>On N'zoth
>Doesn't immediately impact the board, hence it is shit
>Doesn't immediately impact the board

This is why he should stick with arena only

>Reynad
>On N'zoth
>It is 10 mana so it is shit

I don't even know what to say.

>>159536512
>See Mark of Lotus
>Dismiss it as a meh card

Let's see how wrong he is when the expansion hit.

>Comparing Piranha Launcher with doomhammer and said it was as good if not better

How can one man be so wrong?

>Paladin's 3 mana legendary
>Powerful

>Pint Size Potion
>Could be useless could be insane

You don't need 2 brain cells to know that it is insane due to the fact that it is 1 mana and synergize with a lot of cards.

I don't want to watch through the rest. Kripp should stick with bitching on Arena.
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>>159538870
You should reread his text to find out. If he attacks, kills AND survives, then after that he summons 2 murlocs.
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>>159538981
Oooh, I keep forgetting that part.

Might be good for like, a month of Everyfin Is Awesome bullshit... put this guy in the middle of a bunch of totems, +2 attack buff, have it kill something and then instantly have a three mana discount to buff your whole board.

Yes this will make a good meme for two games at best.
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>>159539104
Pintsized could be insane with Horror or with Madness
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>>159538945
isnt twilight summoner 5 mana 1/1?
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>>159539104
Krip is so bad at card predictions.

>There are people RIGHT NOW that are sleeping on Pint Size Potions

I'll change their minds. I'll change all their fucking minds.
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>>159539250
Sure, but it has a deathrattle. And it's a 4 drop.
The worst 5 drop is 2/3
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>>159539397
Thought it was 5 mana for some reason.
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>>159539245
>>159539285

I have no idea how people can actually say PSP is useless, even saying PSP may be potentially useless is insulting the intelligence of the mass.

PSP is insane. You can screencap this. If I am wrong I am going to kill myself, mark my words, I'll break no promise. If I am right, those who screencapped it should deposit 3 dust into my account.
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>>159539285
I think they are too focused on that it needs to be combod with other stuff to be really good, but fail to realize priest already has to do that with other his cards. And then of course there will be quite a few cards you will want to combo this with.
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>>159539157
Patches is honestly a better legendary. Immidiate, less conditional synergy that can be improved later on with select combos whilst not hampering your deck unless you mulligan into him and no gang up.
Even then worst case scenario you use him plus cold blood just to kill a 5 health minion.
>>159539587
Itl find a use purely from double that into horror. The only reason why it wont is because dragonfire is THAT good.
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Is there any push for Blizzard not to take out old adventures out of the game? I mean, who even came up with this shit? Why take out content? It's not like they take up so much space. At least leave an option to have them or something.
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kripp is a pathetic betacuck who should go back to playing poe or kill himself because he is shit at hs and nobody gives a fuck about arena lmao
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I put gorehowl in my face/murloc warrior for the hell of it and it actually gave me exact lethal. What a world.
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>>159539740
Southsea Captain is now a 3/3 summon a 2/2 with charge gg ez.
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>>159539813
Kripp is actually pretty knowledgeable of the game and his matches get pretty intense.
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>>159539746
They don't really take them out.
If you have them bought, you can play them as much as you want.

And if you have at least a single wing bought, you can buy the rest whenever you feel like.

It's just the new players/accounts that get screwed and have access to them blocked.
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>>159539880
Only if you dont use any other pirate before that.
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>big time racketeer is a stealth nerf to moonglade portal
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>>159538383
No, because I'm not a screaming faggot like you.
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>>159537350
>meme lego

Used up all their creativity coming up with the tri-class mechanic I see.
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>>159540118

Blizzard doesn't want people to play Wild. It's kind of sad. Multiple friends of mine refuse to start Hearthstone because they can't access Wild.
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>>159540242
>Used up all their creativity coming up with the tri-class mechanic I see.
Must have taken them a lot of energy considering there's only three tri-class cards per faction.
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>>159536570
Don't worry, priest's getting the same treatment come Mean Streets.

Post-rotation, almost everyone will be running some manner of control priest and it will be the new cancer that everyone bitches about.

Any predictions on what the next class that people complain about as 'unplayable' will be? My bet's on either paladin or druid.
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>blizzard adds dragon synergy cards for priest
>brm will rotate pretty soon
>preist will be garbage again

WHAT A GOOD IDEA, PUSHING AN ARCHEOTYPE BASED ON AN ADVENTURE
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>>159540160
Thats quite doable. You might just run captain purely for that.
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When is the next card getting revealed?
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>>159539813
What do you mean? There's literally never a situation where you should buy packs instead of just spend that money on arena. 4 wins already guarantees you better value and the biggest loss you can take is 40 gold of value at 0 wins.
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>>159540473
80% of the good dragon-synergy cards don't come from BRM.
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>>159540553
You're revealing it, hurry the h*ck up.
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>>159540446
Doesn't Priest just outright lose to malygos decks?

Wonder if Warrior will get any bullshit armour or removal cards. Then we can all enjoy 30 minute fatigue warrior vs Priest matches.
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Druid question: assuming you don't have Violet Teacher in Beast Druid, does having Living Roots and Power of the Wild make sense? Or should I just go with Wrath and Savage Roar?
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>>159540852

All good neutral legendaries will be warrior's legendaries.
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Team 5 had no idea what they were doing with Hearthstone during BRM.

Be glad they changed Blackwing Technician from this monstrosity.
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>>159540667
Uuuh

Shit Flinging Monkey
3 cost 2/2
At the end of your turn throw shit at your opponents face.
Deathrattle: Throw shit at your opponets face and all of his minions.
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>>159540852
>naiman vs hamster
>naiman literally plays nothing to win
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>>159540576
yeah like 3/6 taunt 2/4 taunt 5/3 fire ely are all rotating out lel
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>>159541018
>4 mana 2/2 gain 10 armor
>at best
Jesus fucking christ
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>>159541018
Wait, what's that?
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>>159541018
I'm glad Goblin Peridot got a good card.
>Select all squares with street signs
>Literally just a brick wall with a pipe
Thanks captcha.
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>>159541143
Brann for 20.
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>>159541163
Alpha version of blackwing tech
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Severely tempted to craft Velen for my meme Priest deck
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Did anyone else notice that Kun the Forgotten King doesn't have a Battlecry in its text?
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>>159541530
No meme is spicy enough to warrant 1600 dust.
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>>159541581
Yes that was deliberate since branning it would be rediculous. They realized that with the cthun 10 armour
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>>159541581
Choose one cards aren't battlecry despite them them technically being them
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>>159539972
the only thing that is intense is how he whines like a little bitch
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>>159540941
>
Look up Firebat's curator beast druid. It's the only beast druid that is barely playable.
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>>159541258
Why would you Brann it though
It's fucking terrible
>Control warriors loving every laugh as you waste Brann gaining armor thinking it's cute you try and out armor them
>Mages ping off your 2/2 with Flamewaker and burst the armor away because you aren't a warrior and they can deal with 20 extra HP, not 50
>Huntards have more than 50 damage in their deck so they laugh
>Same with aggro shamans
>Priests don't exist yet
>Druids are fatigue snooze wars
>Murlocadin's still burst you down
>Zoo can still rush you down, Renolocks laughing at how little you're healing
>Malyrogue laughs at you wasting Brann
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>>159539740
I disagree. PSP has incredible versatility and it loses only a couple of its options after rotation.

PSP and Confuse to kill all creatures with 3 attack or less for 3 mana.
PSP and SW: Horror to kill all creatures with 5 attack or less for 5 mana.
PSP and Shadow Madness to steal a 6 attack or less creature and attack with it for one turn, for 5 mana.
PSP and Cabal Shadow Priest to steal a 5 attack or less creature permanently, for 7 mana and a 4/5.
PSP and Crazed Alchemist or Kooky Chemist for 3/5 mana spot removal of creatures with 3 attack or less and a 2/2 or a 4/4.
PSP and just trade efficiently for 1 mana.

It's going to be the bane of aggro, zoo and N'Zoth decks everywhere.
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what deck is ok against mid range shaman ?
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>Grook-Fu Master
>Grook
>Gook

They are not even that subtle.
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>>159541845
freeze mage
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>>159541715
>>159541738
Huh, I always thought that Choose one cards had Battlecry on them. I only just realized they don't.
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>>159541845
mid range shaman
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>>159541413
>>159541018
Do you have more 'alpha' cards?
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>>159539285
Pint-Size makes the cut because sometimes you're just gonna play it to trade board, I think.

Not sure if you play Shadow Word: Horror with it. Cabal Priest is already a 1-of most of the time.
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>>159541784
What I want to know is that should I keep Roots and Power if I don't include stuff like Teacher and Raptor that synergise with it the best.
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Did you ever got a friend request after a match because your opponent was salty as fuck and wanted to insult you? I did a few times.

The best one i've got was after the match where i ramped Dr. Boom at the second turn against a Handlock when he was still a thing, he wished me to get cancer and die. Fun tumes.

But you never were as salty as these people and never did this, right?
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>>159541813
>16 cards of a 30 card deck
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How do you even solve the Mage problem in arena?
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>>159542807
Holy shit that dude has problems.
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>>159542807
thats a lot of passive agressive smileys
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>>159540576

are you retarded
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>>159542894
Delete Mage.
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>>159542052
Same with most combos.
Brann will only work if it specifically states its a battlecry. Something with Combo: Batttlecry or Battlecry: Choose one would but combo and choose one on their own wouldent.
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Maybe you play PSP in meme priest where you run 1 of everything and the spell legendary. I don't know if dragon priest is gonna have room for it.
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>>159542807
>that chat
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>>159541857
Why is he even a thing? Harpy and Dragonhawk never see play. And he's not even as good for paladin meme double-champion 1TKO combos.
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>>159542940

Blizzard added "Roach Boy" to the wheel of potential opponents after that went viral
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I was having fun on arena then I went 4-0 and the mages started appearing.

Mage is singlehandedly killing this gamemode and Blizzard doesn't seem to give a single fuck, why?
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>>159542807
he's not wrong tho =)
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>>159543243
kek, well played

Sometimes Blizz do get it right.
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>>159542807
What he says is true but he's probably the same kind of nobody he talks about.

Feels good to be actually at the top tho =)
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>>159542807
Please keep your reddit memes on reddit.
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>>159543390

he can neither be wrong or right because he didn't make a single coherent point or said anything that made any sense
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>>159543301
nobody plays arena

honestly if you want to mainly play arena I would suggest TES:L or Shadowverse both have much better arena modes
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>>159543621
Meme was so good it made it into the game.
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>>159542807
>not simply immediately unfriending this autist
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>>159543631
>being this defensive

you have something to hide boy ? =)
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>>159543839
>not egging him on til he snaps

Picked the wrong fite m8
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>>159543301
for the same reason they don't care about Shaman killing the other gamemode
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>>159543301
Don't worry, mage won't be a problem once priest is killing your 2/3 and 3/2 for 1 mana then playing a 2 drop which they buff with kabal talonpriest the following turn.
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>accepting friend reqests
>not immediately muting opponents face at the start
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>3-2 with awful warrior deck
>go against equality consecration 2xtruesilver murloc knight zombie chow madder bomber paladin

wow
just wow

how do you even go 3-2 with a deck like that
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>>159544267
You deliberately go 0-2 so you have an easier track to the finish.
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>>159544267
>how do you even go 3-2 with a deck like that

Play Hearthstone and get shitty RNG.
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>>159544451
there isn't bad enough RNG to prevent you from going at least 8-0 with a deck like that, just two fucking truesilvers by themselves are 7+ wins material

that guy had to be pure fucking dogshit, he almost somehow lost to me too
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>Calling it now
>3 mana 4/2 pirate
>battlecry if you control a pirate, discover a pirate.

Screencap this post.
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Every time there's a fun interesting brawl some kind of cancer ruins it.

Fuck dreadsteed
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>>159544267

I was against a Warrior who played Variann into 3x Sea Giant. Fun run.
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>>159544267
These are the worst defeats too, when you're against a garbage retard that somehow got a 80 avg score deck and somehow manages to fuck up his run.
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>>159544209
Adding retards i just destroyed in-game and reading their autistic rage was the only joy i had in game.
>play the game back when combo druid was a thing
>opponent puts the druid of the claw in the bear mode on board
>i roll the imp-losion on 4 while having two jugglers on board
>druid player adds me, says that i'm abusing a bug, tells me that he reported me and i should be banned soon, unfriends me
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>>159544574
Please all of my yes
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>>159539064
you could here him say
FLY INSECT
after you jumped
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>when Reno is your last card
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>>159542807
Only once. Sent me two lines in russian and immediately left my friends list.
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The Diceroll
2 mana
randomly trigger a random effect
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>nobody talk about the greatest card of them all
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>>159545296
>it triggers the effects of years of hard drug abuse and you become an empty shell of your former self
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>>159545428
???
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>>159545296
The best TCG right now has literal coin flips for damage done.
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>>159545262
Maybe he congratulated you. I have a non-russian sounding nick, but Russkies chat to me all the time. Usually it's just random things. I'm 100% that they don't know that I speak russian when they start. One guy just went on a tangent about how Hunter is actually good in Arena before I could reply and confirm that I understand him.
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>>159545587
>not liking a 5 mana 6/5 who can attack two targets
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give me a decent renolock list
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>>159545587
It was on a projector at Blizzcon. It's just a 3/5 windfury common for 5 mana.
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>>159545441
But anon, i don't need drugs and random effects to become the thing i already am.
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>>159545428

Racist as fuck.
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>>159545428
Put it in the dusty corner next to Harpy and the Dragonhawks.
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>>159544742
Just run a nigger priest. You will only win against dreadsteeds.
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>>159542807
>back in beta and pre-naxx I friended a few people to ask about decklists and how their substitutions affected some matchups

These assholes ruined any chance of a player community developing and that makes me mad.
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>>159545740
>that mathematical skill in factoring in windfury
It's actually a 2.5 mana 12/5 that can attack 4 targets.
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>>159545740
>6/5

it's a 3/5 tho. It can attack for 6 total, but it doesn't do 6 to 2 target. Pretty mediocre
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>>159546037
It's a 3/5 windufury, not a 6/5 windfury
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I dont get why Hearthstone do not have Halloween themed Tavern Brawls
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>>159541175
>not using legacy
You have only yourself to blame.
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>>159546530
>Sun
Christmas is the only Holiday worth celebrating, silly heathen.
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>>159546609
Christmas is Pagan.
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>This brawl makes C'Thun Warrior good again
Feels good blowing people out with Vek'lor.
>>
MSOG is one of those where you just buy the packs/craft the cards, it's not an adventure with teh wings, right?
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Is there anything the playerbase can do to make Blizzard care about their fucking game?

I'm pretty sure some class will get to the point where Shaman is next expansion and if Blizzard still refuses to fix it the game will die.

Truth be told the game should be dead already. The dev team is a joke.
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>>159546809
Yes goyim, pre-order your packs today!
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>>159546956
there's only one of me, Anon.
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Is it actually good or just false hope? Is zombie chow returning to fight the aggro plague?

Will we get some decent taunts this time around too? That 5 mana 4/5 is shit
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>>159547324
I mean losing 1 health is a big deal, but healing yourself for 4 is huge too. It looks good to me
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>>159547324
It will be great. Since it heal you too it's a counter aggro too.
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>>159547324
>trogg is 1/3
>mistress is 2/2
What's the fucking point
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>>159547135
Everyone should get their 50 packs now, not just you friendo!
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>>159547324
what decks run zombie chow apart priest?
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>>159547324
Can't beat any other 1 drop
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>>159547675
But Todd, you're supposed to shill TESL.
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>>159547675
i have enough dust to just craft the cards.
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>>159547324
Whenever there is a well and good taunt, aggro will co-opt it. If you look at the various decklists out there, aggro decks actually run more taunts than controls deck do since taunt protects their valuable, agressively-stated minions. So, don't have much hope on the taunt front.

But I suspect this card will absolutely be great. The loss of one health is huge, but the ability to heal yourself makes up for it. Zombie chow could hit a 2/1 and then a 3/2, thus healing yourself for five damage, in a manner of speaking. This card can hit the same 2/1 and 3/2 but also heals you its additional 4, so you really heal 9. That's pretty big.
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>>159547675
Wrong game Todd
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>>159547747
Who is this Todd? I am just someone who loves to pre-order.
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>>159547653
Trogg is leaving in 4-5 months.
And it heal you for 4.
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i just bought the first wing of LoE, did i cuck myself? (700gold)
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>check new rogue cards
>no weapons
Why did they delete blade flurry?
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>>159547675
This is our town, scrub.
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>>159547908
I am not falling for your tricks, Todd. Now go and make TESL less jewish.
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>>159547653
You're a retard
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>>159547938
LoE is removed from standard in 5 months max. So it's not a good idea to invest in it. Better go into Karazhan.
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>>159547859
>This card can hit the same 2/1 and 3/2 but also heals you its additional 4, so you really heal 9


are you the retard, or is this a copypasta making fun of a retard?
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>>159548051
fuck shit god damnit
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>>159547983
>30 something cards reveal out of 130
>hurrr no rogue weapon
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>>159547938
It will rotate out in a few months, but it was many peoples favorite adventure/expansion.
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>>159547983
because the facedamage was retarded OP
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>>159547984
Yeah, Beat it!
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>>159548114
On the upside it may be a good idea that you bought the first wing because once it rotates out you can still buy further wings with gold instead of being forced to craft them all.
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>>159548256

So you nerf the face damage or mana cost, not fucking both you cumstain.
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>>159547324
False hope, 3 health is critical for early trading
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>>159546530
>Hearth-o-ween

It's called Hallow's End.
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When the fuck are they showing new cards? I hate this about Blizzard. They cockblock us so long. And is it true that the expansion is relasing in December? Why? There's no new keywords or anything to work out. Why should it take so long just to implement tri-classes?
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>>159548323
and it will never return again?
>>159548051
>>
>>159549540

Early December to be exact. So before the 15th if we're being optimistic.
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>>159549726
Not in Standard. But you can always use the cards in Wild.
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>>159547324
This bitch and the 3 mana 4/5 taunt should be pretty good against aggro
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>>159546145
I was making fun of that post, dumbass.
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>>159550047
Was the dumbass necessary? Do you need to try to be edgy on 4chan of all places?
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>>159550153
Considering your inability to discern obvious sarcasm, I think you deserve the label.
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>>159549540
>expansion isn't out next week like last blizzcon
>no preorder cardback
>no new keywords
>bad spoiled cards

should probably drop the game for a couple months again desu
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>>159550515
I guess you are not familiar with Poe's law.
>>
>>159550569
The first few months are guaranteed to be a shitfest:
>balance issues
>payfags parading OP decks
>memes and cancer everywhere you look
>>
Why the fuck thread is so dead.
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>>159551390
World Championship is over, shit expansion reveal, awful meta right now.
>>
>>159551390

/hsg/ has been super dead for the last two months, nothing new
>>
>>159551390

Busy playing hearthstone
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>>159551124
>hating memes
The first week is the best
>>159551390
Championship over, no new cards til tuesday, meta is so awful and more importantly bland, that no-ome wants to do it.
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>>159538912
Yeah, like anyone uses ironforge portal
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>Ysera + Inner Fire
>Your opponent left
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>>159552246
Yes
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>>159552248
If he had no way to deal with Ysera, the game wa probably over anyway.
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>>159552246
Yes
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>>159538065

You bet, brother.
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>>159538912
You mean the 1/1 that is summoned by its own deathrattle? That does not sound like a bad drop, actually.
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>>159552625
faceless shambler
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>>159538065
>>
On a scale of 1 to 10 how much better is Shadowverse than this pile of shit?
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>>159552625
Also the summoner, the 1/1 deathrattles into a 5/5
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>>159552563
>>159552948
This isn't Valeera
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>>159553245
I mean, shiposting about SV is the only way to keep the thread alive, but stop.
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im surprised blizzard doesn't have us voting on the factions to see which cards would be spoiled. of course, the jade ninja guys would probably win every time
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>>159545740
When it's attacked it only deals 3 damage. The only upside it's that damage buffs gets doubled and can smash 2 enemies in the same turn. I would say that windfury minions were a mistake
>>
Why so slow, /hsg/?
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>>159553554
I want to see the cutie Panda leggo
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>New rogue cards except for coin are boring and shit
At least a buff to priest is a buff to rogue
>>159553703
Everyone's hopes and dreams are progressively being crushed by the leaks
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Are there any good decks that don't require Karazhan?
Warlock uses it (imp & silverware golems), hunters use it (the secret, Kindly Grandmother), mage has the babbling book, etc.

Feels as if every deck I've played needs it to be competitive.
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Looks like this nigger might finally find some use when the new expansion drops.
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Not a lot of news today. After the excitements of the two last days, people are taking a break.
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>>159553812
>Feels as if every deck I've played needs it to be competitive.
Well, duh. What's the point of making an expansion that doesn't have any useful cards?
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>>159553812
Token druid.

You don't need giants, just run Onyxia, double Teacher, Wisps, Soul of the Forest, maybe Cenarius or any other good druid card.
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>>159553834
this card is so lame and retarded
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>wallet warrior in casual starts bming after I run out of cards.
>tab out and rope.
Dunno when the cunts are gonna learn.
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>>159553827
With what dumbass
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>>159551390
Awful meta, awful new cards in the new set, no hope for the better
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>>159551594
>shit expansion reveal
There's loads of great new cards they showed off. Legos are less-than stellar though, I'll give you that.
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>>159553759
>coin
>not boring
it's just a coin you get to add

how is that not the most boring design so far
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>>159554102
a 10-mana Kazakus spell can be played the turn Cho'Gall hits the board at the cost of 10 of Gul'dan's Health.
>>
>turn 1 spirit claws
>turn 2 spell totem
>turn 3 concede

Why do I bother playing this game
>>
Why don't Zoolocks ever run Leeroy?

Give me the fastest SMOrc deck out there!
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>>159554345
>Deal 10 damage to self to play a spell that gives 10 armor
Dank.
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>>159554371
Play Face Hunter. Your dudes bite back.
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>>159554326
>Boring and shit
Emphasis on both
While not super cool, coin is at least good in the only relevant archetype of rogue since they killed oil.
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>>159554459
I don't have the "ingredients" right here in front of me, but I believe there are quite a number of beneficial picks for most Renolock decks.
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All memes aside what are the essential cards I need to craft if I want to play priest as a main in standard?

Also is confessor paletress good?
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>>159554468

Don't matter.
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>>159554459
>I'm retarded, yet I must post
You don't.
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>>159554587

She's fun, not good
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>>159554587
She's decent but rotating out
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>>159554587
She's pretty bad but she's fun.
>>
tavern brawl is fun
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>>159554624
Run Deadly Shot and Timberwolves if you wanna tech against Shammies.

Fuck it, go full 2014 and put in a Starving Buzzard.
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>>159554675

When will she be rotated out?'

>>159554675
>>159554710

If she's being rotated out soon I guess it doesn't really matter.
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daily reminder real control decks run at least 20 one drops
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>>159554781
Early next year.
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>>159554781

In like 3 to 5 months
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>>159554781
Confessor Paletress, the other TGT cards, BRM, and LoE ;_; will all be rotating in ~April 2017.
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GIVE ME THE FASTEST DECK IN THE GAME
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The more I look at this, the more fun I think I will be having in Wild

>>159554924
Menagerie Mage.
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>>159554254
>sub-par legos
>reprints of discover cards
>highly situational spells that require a specific deck archetype
>some anti-aggro cards to throw controlshitters a bone
literally the best card revealed thus far is the dragon lightbomb
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>>159554924

Priest, you often concede by turn 3
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>>159554775

>Deadly shot
>Against 20 totems

Nigga...
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>>159555003
Give me more info.
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>>159555078
I was thinking more "Thing From Below" as a target.
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>>159554924
Rogue

>prep
>prep
>coin
>concede

All on turn 1
>>
This should be fun
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>>159554924
Face Hunter can finish games really fast (winning and losing). Just concede when Control Warrior is getting over 15 Armor and leaving you with no board presence.
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>overstatted dragon that lets you pick the best card from the enemy deck and comes right after priest of the feast

holy shit
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>>159554047
Why? It's original and pretty fun.
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>>159555020
>reprints
The only "reprint" I've seen is the 1-mana 2/2 that heals four for both heroes. What other reprints are there?

You do have me on the sub-par legos part though. The Pally one looks interesting and Patches has certainly sparked some interest.
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>>159555270

Its almost like they don't know how to make a balanced card, only pushed cards
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>>159555140
Ship's cannon, mostly. Swashburlger was a pretty dank pirate addition. Replenishes the card you play and is low costed. And with Patches, the deck is 29 cards deep, so it's more consistent. Also, just think of the One Eyed Cheat value.
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>>159555305
Kabal Featherpriest
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>>159555236
Face Hunter is the cancer that is killing the game.
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>>159555270
It'll be fun for the 5 months before all the dragons rotate then becomes shit
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>>159555205

There is nothing that beats shaman consistently

>inb4 some nerds saying freeze is a counter because it has 51,1% winrate

You can literally make a priest deck with nothing but clears with 0 win conditions and still lose because shaman openings are so consistent and crazy
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>>159555442
You might as well argue that Kindly Grandmother is a reprint of Huge Toad, then.
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>>159555542
You're a retard then. No surprise here.
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>>159555453
There is absolutely nothing wrong with the Face Hunter.
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>>159555663
#rude
There's huge implications nowadays with Deathrattles, and the Featherpriest doesn't have one of those. It's a very close card, yes, but I wouldn't argue that it's a reprint.

This is just standard /hsg/ doomsaying, really.
>>
>>159555453
I once toiled for hours trying to build a great Pre-Standard Mdr. Shammy and I can tell you, right now, that Midrange Shaman is actually the cancer killing the game.
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>>159555305
The Discover a X, Y, or Z card are all reprints of LoE shit like Dark Peddler or Jeweled Scarab. Talonpriest is a better reprint of Dark Cultist. I Know a Guy is a reprint of A Journey Below, except with Taunt instead of Deathrattle.
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>>159554054
I just tab out along with them when that happens
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>>159555227
You should throw polymorph in there to counter dread steed.
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>>159555475
as if blizz wasn't going to print more good dragons for msog
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>>159555453
So how else would you play a class that has a hero power that deals dmg to face, has no board clears and no healings. Enlighten me pls.
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>>159556137
reno
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>>159556269
DID SOMEONE SAY RENO?
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>spend 90% of my gameplay with priest ever since early beta
>have golden priest with my 2nd most play class only sitting at 115 ranked wins
>reached legend 3 series with nothing but priest
>sad that priest has been hands down the worst class in the game since standard hit
>blizzard promises to buff priest and that they want them to be viable with interesting synergies and tricks other than curvestone dragons
>immediately release an expansion that forces you to play dragons
I actually fucking hate blizzard so much
>>
No one ever takes in account that drawing a number of cards from your deck without actually having to draw them makes the deck more compact and consistent
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>>159556137
You just dont play it. Hunter decks should be redesigned.

If I wanted to play a direct damage strat is direct damage, I would be playing MtG Burn decks. I am not playing HS to see that stupid archetype ruining the game.

I love when Control Warriors spit on their hopeless faces.
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>>159556094

I didnt even know that card was a thing (just came back after a year + break)

That seems like it would actually break this brawl without a transform card considering everything has charge
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>>159556269
I hope you are joking. If you ever played reno in your life you will know that he only good if you play it on an empty board. And how would you clear a board with class with no removals?
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Arena should have some kind of rotation as well. All the garbage from goblins vs gnomes really bloats the game and since almost all gvg stuff is super RNG it causes retarded swings on a gamemode that's already ridiculously tempobased.

Like this fucking cunt right here can instantly win you the game on turn 2 or just be a mediocre 2drop.
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>>159556119
brm was centered around dragons

we wont get that kind of synergy again for a good while
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>>159556532
yogg
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>>159555236

Which face hunter techs do you use?
>>
>>159556538
They did remove some cards, maybe they'll cut more in the future.
>>
>Oh boy oh boy, I just know this new expansion is going to have Artha-
>memes

Whether or not this expansion is good depends entirely on if Jade Lotus rogue or Toke-adin is viable.
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>>159556520
but anon, I love direct damage strategies and laugh on midrange hopeless faces because they cant do shit.
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>>159556348

I've been sticking with priest since I started playing and I really like the class, what annoys me is that if priest gets OP everyone will bandwagon it and play it.They don't care about playstyle or choosing something they personally like just about winrate

>But muh secret club

Its not even about that... its just that priest mirror SUCKS
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>>159556137
Don't play a class for retards. Play anything else, maybe something patrician like rogue.
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>>159556538

>enemy plays worgen t1
>i say the light shall burn you and play my good bomber
>instant gg

Happens all the time
>>
>don't play for the class, its not like blizzard intended for people to play their favorite classes, the just want wins!
rofl
>>
>>159556532
Reno should not solve an entirely shitty game on his own. If I'm losing board so horribly to the point I could be killed in a single turn it's not on Reno. Playing it when the enemy is out of gas or at the very least in a comparable board state always yields good results.
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>These Priest cards

It's Shaman all over again
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So should you generally buy packs or save up for arena runs?
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>>159556891
Fucking this...

Everytime i play arena and pick Priest, I have over 10 wins or really close to it. Meanwhile with other classes I just shit the bed.
>>
>>159556538

>2 mana flame imp

Every time
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>>159557225
arena if you're gudd
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>people talking shit about my Hunter Class.
>not complaining about Mid Shamman decks ruining the game.

I am fucking triggered.
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>>159547324
Is this crazy overstatted 1 drop good?
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>>159557225

If you can play a bad game mode that feels like a chore sometimes, yeah sure, arena has better value overall
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>>159555003
>not Menagerie paladin with inquisitors
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>>159557487
>playing a class for retards

You can go to /tg/ in the MtG generals to discuss about your shit burn decks.

Hunter is a mistake
>>
>No priest

Who should I lose with /hsg/?
>>
>>159557527
>Druid has a basic 2/2 drop
>Most one drops are 1/2 or 2/1 and have an effect
It's not crazy like zombie chow was
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>>159557793
Shamman or Hunter

They are second and Third best classes to play arena.

Never in your life pick Rogue while playing in arena.
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>>159557793
Easy Valera.
>>
>>159557793

Rogue m8
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>>159557747
Fuck off, Burn or direct damage was always an archetype in most TCG.

>>159557904
Hi misinfo agent. Long time no see you.
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>>159557997
>>159558051
>>159558102

Wait is there a specific reason I should pick Valera?

I've never really played her past getting her to the requisite level for all of her basics.
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I wonder what the Grimestreet Legendary will be.
>>
I wonder if the pirate legendary will summon a copy of it, or it will be usable only once.
>>
DR. PAVEL I'M RNG
>>
>>159558102
>2016
>playing burn decks

Only people with poor desicion-making plays burn decks. Hell even MtG, the father of TCG realised how cancer it is and now burn damage is nerfed.
>>
>>159558308
It remove itself from the deck. So it's only once.
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>>159557747
>hunter
>the burn deck for retards
it's 2016 anon, we have tempo mage now
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>>159558258
Given the trend of legendaries so far:

6 mana 3/2 when this attacks and kills a minion summon a random grimestreet minion.

Or some shit like that.
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>Been playing Dragon Priest since BRM even when people said I was playing a shitty tier 3 archetype
>After Gadgetzan people are going to call me a netdecking meme shitter
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>>159558363
>nerfed
>more like non-existant

Burn decks are no longer alive in MtG current standard. Its non burn aggro and draw-go decks.

>>159558191
misinfo agents. Valera sucks in arena. play Shammy or Huntard like >>159557904 says if you want to try to win.

Get Valera if you just want 50 dust.
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>>159558559
Hi Kibler try some legit control priest once Gadgetzan hits it'll be better than Dragon Priest
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>>159557043
Only retards play hunter in either game
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>>159558547
Kazak is a Spell machine because the 3 classes are spellcasters.

It might be a combinaison of all 3 classes too.
>Choose One : Gain +2 attack or +3 health and Taunt
>Charge
>Gain life equal to the damage done

Lotus could be
>Demon
>Stealth
>Windfury
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Why so much hate to hunter? Isnt direct damage hs gimmick? Shuldnt we hate Shamman decks for being fucking unfair?
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>>159559161
>Gimmick
Bruh, have you even played a TCG?
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>>159558258
>the asexual flag

KEK this will make both the LGBT and /pol/ rage like hell

LGBT because they don't believe asexuals go through the same discrimination and /pol/ because of obvious reasons
>>
>>159559060
I do hope the other Guild leaders have the Reno restriction and in some way play to the classes' strengths and flavor like you said. Man, I love Reno.
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>>159559161
Hunter is a lame class everyone should be collecting signs for its rework.

>>159558808
Blizzard should learn from WotC for dissapearing Burn decks forever.
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I don't know why everybody is being so fast to diss on Mistress of Mixtures, sure the 3Hp is extremely important to trade into 2/1 and 2/2s and that's what made Zombie Chow so damn good but she also heals you for 4 which sets the opponent back a bit if he decides to go face and can even be a soft taunt (making the opponent want to drop her before she heals you).

Also let's not forget this card is being added as well.
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>>159557082
When's Rogue's turn, is what I want to know.
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>>159558808
>google "draw go deck"
>Twenty-one counterspells allow the deck to stop almost everything the opponent tries to do.
>clear the board with a Disk and then counter every single spell for the rest of the game.
Wow, sounds fun and interactive.
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>>159555424

>bring it out late game and gang up it once.
>tfw double cannon + southsea for 22 damage.
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>>159559532
counterspells by definition are interactive
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>>159559513
That will never see any play
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>>159558493
do you have a good list? id like to try the odds game
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>>159559532

They are, specially since with sideboards you can fit your deck better to handle against their strategy
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FROM RANK 3 TO RANK 16 IN A FUCKING DAY. FUCK THIS GAME WHAT THE FUCK CAN I PLAY TO WIN?!
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>>159558258
Grimestreet is aggro, Kabal is control and Jade Lotus is midrange.

Kazakus allows you to design the perfect card for the situation, fitting the theme of control pretty well.
Expect the Grimestreet legendary to have either a big body, grant advantages for face damage or equip a random weapon from your deck or something like that.
The Jade Lotus legendary will probably do something that allows for a massive swing in board presence (in your favour). I doubt it'll be any good though.
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>>159559673
I can't wait for the next Top 2 or 3 brawl and the bullshit cancer that comes out right from the first turn. Pretty damned easy to counter, though. Maelstrom portal and you're done.
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>>159559315
Pokemon TCG long time ago when it was popular. Never liked MtG cause fat rednecks were fucking bad at teaching me the basics. They literally gave me a deck with low cost low dmg/health creatures while they played some stupid remove all theats deck and landed later some big fatass creature none of mine could even do a shit.

I liked heartstone because I am familiar with the characters (used to play WC3 and WoW till Lich King expansion).

I dont know the archetypes names.for other stuff. I assume burn means direct damage to the player, but dont know shit about something like draw-go.

The point is why some autistic guy is hating Hunter, which strategy is to kill the opponent fast, while Shamman is the cancer that is ruling right now?
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>>159560086
>pokemon TCG

Absolutely garbage
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>>159559532
Enlighten me how some deck that literally dont let you do anything is fair? and how can it be countered if you just cant do anything?
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>>159559956
>blizzard
>ever making this much sense

grimestreet will be a reprint of finley and lotus will be a reprint of elise
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>>159542807
>tfw i will never be this redpilled
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>>159559526
Vanessa Van Cleef
1 mana 3/3

Battlecry: steal your opponent's deck and make it cost 6 mana less
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>>159560247

Pokemon TCG is great for collecting, specially if you love pokemon, but holy shit is it a bad game, specially considering the powercreep and lack of new and interesting stuff
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>>159542807
i guarantee with 100% certainty this nerd is german
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>>159559161
Hunter is fine.
You have to take everything in /hsg/ with the grain of salt that half the people here are dedicated combo players who don't think any other archetype is legitimate or fun.

>>159559717
here's an example
everyone has their own custom list at this point, it's very flexible and you add/cut tech against shaman and control depending on the mix of opponents you're facing.
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>>159559402
Maybe something like that?
Little bit of all 3 classes.
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>>159559161
When a deck revolves around doing damage to face first and foremost, it stops being a game and becomes a flip of the coin. If you draw the right cards, you win. You don't need to worry about what to clear or what your opponent will be playing because you're going face. You're not interacting with your opponent, you're just going face. He's the one that has to interact with you. If you can't do enough face damage before the opponent gets a decent board and is above 20 health, you concede because you already know you've won.

The only worse archetype than face hunter or any other type of burn deck is patron warrior. As soon as you had the combo assembled, all you needed to do was compute your maths correctly and you won the game, with no thought given to interaction.
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>>159560587
This card would actually make a meta where you play the shittiest deck possible and hope your opponent steals it

Bravo Brode!
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>>159553812
You can totally skip barnes in midrange shaman.
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>>159560840
Ah so perfect for rogue then?
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>>159559402
>>159560804
They wouldn't do that.

The 'if your deck contains no duplicates' thing is only viable for control decks. If you're playing aggro or midrange, consistency matters ways too much for you to play a no-duplicate deck.
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>>159560804
That's pretty wordy and boring. Kazakus' ability is highly unique. We can hope that the others are close to it, at least.
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>>159560000

Lets see. The best you could get is 34 damage from 2 cannon, 1 captain, into 3 patches. Shadowstepping one twice.
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>>159560761
Why are people playing Babbling Book in their decks?

All you're doing is paying 1 mana for a 1/1.
Why waste a slot for a random spell, when you can just put the one you want, rather than rely on rng?
You want a second Flamestrike? A Forgotten Torch? Poly? Put it in your deck, instead of a random spell generator.
Like, at least Cabalist's Tome makes sense, because it gives you more value.
But this? What's even the point?
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>>159558808

Lol rogue is the 2nd best class in arena you shieldbearer... holy jesus...
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>>159553812
Karazhan cards are more like force multipliers than deck definers, so yeah you can substitute most Kara cards for worse, pre-exp cards.
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>>159559513
That card is shit

It 2 of it's attack was added to health it would

4 isn't useful against aggro but 8 health on deathlord was despite 2 attack.
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>>159560464
You dont.

You just play mirror or just stand up and leave (also jump from a bridge if possible). Thts why MtG is dying.
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>>159561345
Because some of mage's spells are really spells you'd gladly run 3 or even 4 copies of (Poly/Frostbolt).

Plus it's a token that replaces himself and gives you a turn 1 play. Even if you topdeck him later in the game, you can still play the spell he gives you. Only one or two mage spells are really unplayable garbage.
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>>159561345
Babbling book has won so many tournaments now its disgusting. Most of the time you will get a useful spell, some of the time the perfect spell to lethal. Its filth
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>>159561345
Ice Block (Created by Babbling Book)
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>>159560670
nah, germans love roaches
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>>159561456
how the fuck did hearthstone get to a point where 9 stats for 3 mana is "shit"
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>>159559513
>Mistress of Mixtures is half of a antique healbot
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>>159561179
Sure, but that was a fast draft.

You could do a "Choose One : Fist, Foot or Back"
And you slowly build your guy with stuff.
(Divine shield OR Charge OR "Gain +3 Health when you attack)

Kinda like Kaza but where you build the guy.

You can do a lot of stuff. You can affect your cards like "If you have no duplicate in your deck, Give every creature in your hand and deck +3 attack"
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>>159561456
How is a 3 mana 4/5 bad?
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>>159561698
It's only 3 for 9 when you're already behind. It's easy for any aggro deck to play around, and for any non-aggro decks it will always be an overcosted yeti. It sucks.
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>>159561882
how is a 5 mana 4/5 good?
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>>159561896
you are always going to be "behind" in board as control

also 5 hp puts it in that sweet spot where it requires a bit more removal than usual and you only spent 3 mana on it

i honestly don't see what's so awful about this card
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>>159561515
>MtG is dying
Why do i see it more alive than never? I still remember last year, assistance at my LGS were pretty low. They had to run many times a 6 man tourney cause nobody wanted to play standard MtG because of how fucking expensive and boring it was. They are now back to 30-40 players per tourney now.

>>159560819
If its a bad archetype, why did blizzard put it in the first place?
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>>159562019
It's 3 mana in half the situations because of all the aggro decks out there.
You play against Hunter or Shaman? You can play this turn 3 80% of the time.
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>>159553812
Most warrior decks don't need Kara, the only thing they got was curator, foolsbane, violet, ironforge, and netherspite which aren't required in anything.

Tempo mage also doesn't need firelands and book. They're good but not necessary.
Rogue decks too, they don't need swashburglar to work.
Token druid works too, moonglade and giants are not required.
You can also play traditional zoo decks, but i wouldn't recommend it in this meta.
Finally there's shaman, but i wouldn't recommend playing it at all right now.

>>159561345
First, babbling is great for the same reason mage is broken in arena. Mage spells are generally extremely high value and you will very often get a spell that you're already running 2 copies of. Just try to tell me you wouldn't want a 3rd frostbolt in your deck.

People doubted cards like swash and book when they came out, but early tokens that generate cards are just always gonna be good. It proved its worth at the recent tournaments.
Pic related.
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>>159562057
How many decks will it be good against? How many decks play three minions by turn three? Shaman? Hunter usually only has two sticky minions up, and everyone else is playing midrange or control and don't need more than one.

It's going to be too awkward to be good.
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>>159556576
Maybe the next adventure will be the Chamber of Aspects.
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>>159542807
>shames you for not working
>shames you for being a consumerist roach supporting the pyramid
I think he might be confused
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>>159562067
That was probably because of Khans Block and Origins. The deck prices were pretty high (400$-700$ to be decent).
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>>159560804
Nah. My personal suspicion is something like this.
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>>159562196
Enjoy getting Shatter and getting shitter shattered you cuck
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>>159562527
That could be cool.
Maybe "Equip a 5/2 weapon with "Deathrattle : Summon a 5/1 Beast with Charge"
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Face hunter is a shitty deck that can't win past rank 10
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>>159562202
you don't have to play it by turn 3 guaranteed for it to be good. many control decks have floating mana and dropping a 4/5 taunt for 3 mana isn't something that anybody is going to have to cry about.

also off the top of my mind getting the reduction vs zoolock or hunter should be easy enough. against zoolock it could even bait a PO or soulfire

im not saying this card is broken or the sole savior against aggro but i can see it being a decent addition to a deck
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>>159562710
You do realize how obscenely powerful that is, right?

We're trying to guess at what the legendary would be, not daydreaming about destroying the meta.
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>>159561698
X stats for Y mana will never be as good as it sounds in hearthstone because cheap removal is everywhere.
Your opponent will always get to interact with your minion before you get to attack with it, which means the vast majority of the time, it will not get off a single hit.

So minions with effects are very strongly favored over vanilla.
For a vanilla minion to be playable, it needs to be obscenely overstatted because
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>>159561698
When they have 3 minions on a board you want to typically remove them not play something into them. This doesn't help with that, you may as well just play mind control tech over this
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>>159561552
>a turn 1 play
On turn 1 I would rather be playing a Mana Wyrm than a 1/1.

>Even if you topdeck him later in the game, you can still play the spell he gives you
Or I can topdeck a spell I put in my deck instead of it, and play it.
Except in that case I don't risk it being a Shatter.

>>159561569
>Most of the time you will get a useful spell, some of the time the perfect spell to lethal
Yeah, but all you're doing is risking it. Even if it's "most of the time", it's not 100%.
And if I put that second Flamestrike in the deck myself, I don't have to pray to the rng gods to give the answer I need at the time, because I know what I'm getting.
The only argument for it, that I can see, is if it makes a third copy of a spell you already have.
Like having 3 Fireballs would be ince, but it's not something you can rely on.

>>159561635
>Ice Block (Created by Babbling Book)
Then just put an Ice Block in your deck if you really want it.
Are you seriously gonna rely on Babbling Book to save your ass with rng, rather than guarantee it by putting the spell in yourself?
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>>159562818
Zoo I'll grant as a possibility, but Hunter just doesn't load up its field that way most of the time. Certainly they don't need to load up their field to pressure you, and that's what it comes down to. If the deck can pressure you without playing three minions, then the only way you'll get the discount is as a surprise tactic. Without the discount it's just awful. It might see play from time to time on the ladder, but it will never see real competitive play because it's too easy to play around.

Not to mention, if this is indeed going to be a priest dominated meta, you're going to need way more efficient turn 5 plays to keep up with the bullshit dragons they're getting. Imagine playing this into that 6/5 they just revealed, it would be fucking terrible.
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>>159562897
I know, but you want aggro. It's just a concept. A weapon summoning a Charge minion could be fun. Maybe like a 1/2 weapon with "Gain +1 attack for each enemy minion"
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>>159563213
Babbling Book allow you to maybe get a third Iceblock. Or Fireball.
Babbling book is a 1 mana guy that has a great chance to give you another damage spell. A third spell or just another one you didnt include.
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>>159563213
I get what you're saying about the RNG of it, and I agree that it's hugely unintuitive for Babbling Book to be good. But the stats, and the tournament results, show that it will give you a spell worth having significantly more often than not, and if you get to run three or even four copies of the strongest spells in the mage toolkit you're at a serious advantage.

Ultimately, it's the whole moral of Karazhan's RNG. It will fuck you over 30% of the time, but outright win you the game the other 70%
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>>159563213

What's your rank?
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>>159562196
>People doubted cards like swash

Swash is different, because it gives you stuff you don't normally have access to.
So you can't put it in your deck yourself.

>Pic related.

Pic related means nothing.
I would simply put that Firelands Portal in my deck myself and not have to gamble for it.
I'm pretty sure that guy doesn't run 2 copies of it.
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>>159540576
Priest loses 1, 2, 3, 4, 5 and two 7 drops with BRM. Everyone one of those is run with two copies. So Dragon Priest is left with 12 empty slots and literally nothing to fill it in.
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>>159563531
>>159563472
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>>159563531
It's a 1 mana 1/1 "Draw a random spell"

The worst case scenario is a Shatter. The best is a Fireball.

If a priest had a 1/1 "Draw a random priest spell", it would be a double include all the time.
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Do I buy BRM yes or no?
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>>159563908
Do you have any interest in Wild ever?
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>>159563948
Not really but I wanna play dragon priest
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>>159564061
Well you must have it for that.
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>>159537206
What do we think, hsg?
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>>159544554
Anon please.
Face a great mage deck 2 times and there you are, 0:2.
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>>159563747
>>159563472
Novice Engineer :^), right now

I can't force myself to play ladder this season.
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>>159564143

Tentacle seems a bad choice for shaman
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>>159542807
I love it when rich people get triggered

>you mean my money DOESN'T make me better than you at everything?
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>>159564295

Then you're clearly talking without knowing just how insane babbling book is, go play tempo mage and see for yourself. This card is insane.
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>>159564361
It was the best in that pick...I swear it
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>>159547324
>doesn't kill Trogg
>doesn't kill Wyrm
>doesn't kill Void Walker
No.
It's not bad, but ti's nothing compared to Zombie Chow.
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>>159562928 [cut off by accident]
Let's say 75% of the time a vanilla minion will be removed instantly.
The remaining 25% of cases need to be good enough to justify a slot in the deck.
Which means there are 3 playable types of vanilla minions:
>Early game where opp is less likely to have removal (eg 1/2/2 raven, 2/3/4 golem)
>Obscenely overstatted for high payoff when opp misses removal (eg 4/7/7)
>Played for free on a massive swing turn (eg 0/8/8)
This is the natural consequence of a meta with ubiquitous efficient removal, and it's partly why team5 wanted to tone it down with silence/bgh/etc at the start of standard. They mostly failed.

>>159563213
>>159563531
It's partly that mage spells are high enough value on their own (you would run a 3rd frostbolt or fireball, for sure).
Also that it forces your opponent to play around every mage spell in the game (eg flamestrike or poly that you might not have had).
Third it's great in the early game because it usually gives you a playable card while putting a 1/1 body on the board. You won't always have mana wyrm turn 1.
Babbling is better than swash because you always get a mage spell, and mage spells are on average great.

And yes, he did have 2 copies of firelands in his deck. That was the 3rd.
But if i needed space in my deck, i'd cut the firelands first anyway. Tempo mage is a fast deck and drawing 7 mana cards in the early game is crippling.
See: netherspite. Many dragon decks have outright cut all late-game dragons in favor of netherspites to improve draws.
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>>159564515
Zombie Chow didnt kill them either.
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>>159563241
How about a Rogue weapon with "Deathrattle: Summon a 1/1 Pirate with Charge" (Pirates attack power is equal to your weapons current attack)
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>>159564674
But it could kills a 2/1 and still be there.
It could hit them two times and still be there.
Zombie can trade with a 2/1 AND a 3/2.
This one can trade either with one or the other. Wyrm and Trogg needed to be buffed twice before they can kill Zombie.

The one health is huge. Sure, the 4 health is a good anti-aggro tool as well, but I value taking out two of the enemy's minion over the 4 health.
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>>159564925
I think mom is better late game against aggro because of the heal
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>>159564587

You forgot to mention the part that nearly every spell will sinergize with flamewaker unless you get a shatter with no way to activate it. Also your opponent might not have a chance to ping down your book without losing massive tempo, so it's just sitting there being a nuissance, that card really is very very strong.
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>>159565020
Sure, that's true. Zombie is mostly a dead draw late game.
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>>159564449
So in your opinion this >>159562196 (webm) is a high level skill play?
Just play two Babbling books and rely on them giving you the exact perfect answer both times?
And in case you get an Arcane Blast or Shatter lose the game?

Like he had absolutely no possible answer other than that tiny little hope of RNG.
And sure it works sometimes, maybe even most of the times.
But if I put that Poly and that Firelands in my deck myself, it will work 100% of the time.

And I did play Tempo for a while. I thew out the Books and put the spells I wanted simply because it's too unreliable.
But I guess this is Hearthstone. RNG is what this game is all about.
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>>159564925
antique healbot is 5 mana heal 8
this is 1 mana heal 4 for -1/-1
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>>159565175
-2/-2
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>>159565225

-3/-3

What are we doing?
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>>159565225
disregard this, i'm an idiot
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>>159562196
If I was amnesiac right here I would've fucking jumped up and smashed that faggot fucking slav right in the face.

That's some bullshit. Some grade A, top tier, fucking stinky ass bullshit.
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Anybody snag the pic of the 1/1 2 drop battlecry add coin to hand?
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>>159565225
3-1 = 2.
Healbot was a 2/2
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>>159565150
>High level skill play

He wasn't saying that at all, man. He's saying the card is strong.
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>>159565150

The act of drawing a card in that situation is a "hope of RNG". If he had a firelands instead of babbling book, then he would still have to be lucky enough to draw it instead of drawing something else. Everything is RNG in any card game.

The point here is that you play your 1/1 at the start and even get a spell from it. It's like playing a novice engineer except you're drawing from outside your deck and you're drawing on average high quality cards that will combo with your spellpower/flamewaker deck. Instead of portal he could have gotten a bunch of other cards that would equally look "lucky", even if portal was the best card there. It's just consistent as a good card.
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>>159565501
>He wasn't saying that at all, man

He was asking about my rank.
Which would imply that high level skill players use that card, and I don't, simply because my rank is too low.
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>>159565696
>If he had a firelands instead of babbling book, then he would still have to be lucky enough to draw it instead of drawing something else.

Yeah, but now you're relying on double RNG,
First drawing the right card, and then the card giving you the right spell.
Whereas if you had the spell itself in your deck instead of the book, it's only a matter of drawing the card itself.
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>>159566006
Look, it's obvious that you're not going to believe anything an anonymous nobody tells you, so why don't you go look up what the pros have written about why it's a good card and stop wasting everybody's time?
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>>159566006
Except that you only have 2 copy of that spell. Babbling book allow you to get a third copy of that spell. And it confuse the opponent who do not knowwhat it is.

Tempo mage but you got a secret? What is the secret, is it Mirror? Ice Block?

They dont know. And they hate that.
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>>159547324
i suspect neither that nor the other supposed anti-aggro card are going to see much play in the decks people are thinking of right now.
First, hunter/druid/rogue have no use or space for them.
The traditional control classes (warrior and shaman) already handle early aggression with their own tools, and don't need the healing. Or the taunt.
The stall control classes (paladin, priest, mage) are at their best when they aren't trying to fight for the board. They suck cocks at it (rez shenanigans notwithstanding) and prefer to just nuke everything instead. Which they'll certainly get even better at with this expac (priest especially).
Dragon priest would prefer to use their own minions (1/2/3 dragon, 2/2/4/taunt) and probably won't have space for it.
Warlock though? Hell yes on the 1/2/2/heal. Great fit in any control lock deck.
Not the taunt though, for the same reason as cyclopian.

>>159566006
see >>159564587, it isn't as simple as just putting the spell in instead of the book.
There's a good chance you already have 2 copies of the spell in your deck, for one.
And unlike firelands portal, babbling doesn't make you cry when you draw it on turn 1.
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>dumpstering kiddos in the shieldbearer ranks

wtf priest is so fucking fun
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>>159566006

No, it's not double RNG because the act of drawing babbling book is not "lucky", what is "lucky" is to draw portal from it or to draw portal from deck.

So go ahead and do the math, what's the odds that you get portal/fireball/etc, basically anything that removes a 5/5 efficiently from babbling book? I haven't done the maths myself, but I assume it's pretty decent odds and that if you compare them to the odds of you drawing your firelands portal from the deck, they're not that far off. And that's in that specific situation where he got lucky but in general it's a very strong card because it consistently gives you good stuff.
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>>159566842
It is fun to use your opponent's cards to beat them. Afterwards, they have to use the same cards that betrayed them.
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>>159566282
>go look up what the pros have written about why it's a good card

Oh right, the """"pros"""".
Looking at that webm is really all I need to know about the """"""""""""pros"""""""""""""".
And not everyone of them put a Babbling Book in their Tempo Mage decks, by the way.

So I gues even the """""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""pros""""""""""""""""""""""""""""" don't all agree.

>>159566297
>>159566425
>Babbling book allow you to get a third copy of that spell.
>There's a good chance you already have 2 copies of the spell in your deck, for one.

Like I said, I get that.
If it gives you a thrid copy of a good spell you already have 2 copies of, then that's great.
But for me, that's too unreliable.
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>>159567158
>Implying those cards won't get Entombed
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>>159567341
Damn, you're a salty cuck
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Holy fuck rank 3 -> rank 20 in ONE DAY. Personal record right here. I can't fucking win anymore.
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>>159567341
Well, it just leaves me wondering how the fuck you are not the one participating in Blizzcon's championships, since you know more than, say, Pavel.
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>mage just goes face with every spell and somehow i'm supposed to pretend there's a counterplay
fucking braindead bullshit
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Is Maly Druid playable without Fandral?
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>>159567341
>Oh right, the """"pros"""".
>Looking at that webm is really all I need to know about the """"""""""""pros"""""""""""""".

Call them whatever you want. These guy play tournaments for thousands of dollars, and they think their odds of winning is greater with babbling book in their decks.

But sure, you probably know better
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>>159567127
>I haven't done the maths myself, but I assume it's pretty decent odds and that if you compare them to the odds of you drawing your firelands portal from the deck, they're not that far off.

Haven't done the maths either, but that does make some sense if you put it that way.

>>159567542
>how the fuck you are not the one participating in Blizzcon's championships, since you know more than, say, Pavel.

My Babbling Books aren't as lucky.
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>>159567613
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>>159542807
Yes
always invited by a priest [/spolier]
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>>159567613

This reminds me of playing priest against combo, its a lost 95% decided on the mulligan phase
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>>159567943
>play warrior or lose
wow sure is interesting to press tank up every turn
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>>159565737
My bad dude. I read it as a high skill play.
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>>159568390
God am I going to be happy when Justicar rotates out.
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>>159564587
Replacement for Thalnos and 1 Arcane Blast? I'm thinking Mirror Image and... Kobold? Polymorph?
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>>159567640
Yes
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Aw yeah, this is the good stuff.
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>>159568880
>yfw justicar is out
>entomb is out
>reno is out
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dreadsteed is unbeatable in tavern brawl, right?
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>>159569072
Why do shitters like you even play this game?
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>>159569030
>mfw no Justicar and Reno
(fuck entomb)
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>>159567613
>i'm supposed to pretend there's a counterplay

Kill them before they kill you.

>>159569072
silence/transform
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>>159569072
Pyro Mass Dispell
If they run the Usher+C'Thun version you need something against that too
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>>159569207
>>159569142
>>159569269
but its the best deck right? warlock with dreadsteed and silence to beat other dreadstees?
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>>159569335
Rivendare against silence
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>>159569030
I agree with Justicar and Reno, but I entomb seems perfectly balanced to me.

>>159569072
There are a bunch of counter plays to it (silence, transform, stealing, spell/effect damage)
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>>159569269
Shaman has a 1 mana spell that both Silences and kills the Dreadsteed, in that order. Perfect counter.
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>>159569651
if you play shaman you cant play dreadsteed tho
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>>159567613
There is none.
Blizz gave us taunts to block face hunters, but no spell taunts to block mage.
They can just go face with everything.
Stupid but it's hearthstone, unfortunately.

>>159568881
1 poly is pretty alright now because rag is in literally every deck and it sucks to use burn on him.
Nothing replaces thalnos. Don't bother with geomancers. Just add another good card, mage has plenty.
An arcane explosion is nice against shaman and zoo.
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>>159569743
>but no spell taunts to block mage.

RIP sweet prince
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>>159567613
Healing. Going face with spells is horribly card inefficient compared to doing it with minions. Use healing to survive the initial onslaught, and they'll run out of resources long before you do.
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>>159569072
If you're not F2P scum, just slot in your Mekgineer Thermaplugg and play it as a charge minion.

Congratulations, you've won the game.
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>>159560589
Yeah, it sucks, but I just love Pokemon so much that I can't help but play every now and again just to see my bros and how they fare in different circumstances. When a mon with low stats is made into a card, it can still be good. Also, since the cards are coming out regularly, I'm never at a deficit for good art .
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Do you guys think there's ever the chance that they'll get rid of standard and wild and just let us have all the cards in one game again?

Do you guys think I'll ever stop dreaming?
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>>159570280
>that combo
kek.

I'm not complaining about the deck I'm just trying to see if the tavern brawl has been solved as of yet.
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>>159569207
>Kill them before they kill you.
except thats literally impossible

if:
>you control the board with your minions
flamewaker wrecks your shit
>you control the board with spells
blizzard/flamestrike/ spell power missiles/arcane explosion/frost nova/etc
>you go face with your minions
mage will aoe see above
>you go face with spells
whatever you can do mage can do better

the only real solutions are:
outlast the million damage (not possible with most classes)
or
burst the mage faster (not every class can play zoo)

and even then you're not guaranteed to win with some offchance iceblock/other delay spells from book/tome bullshit. so mage is utter fucking cancer and should be nerfed
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>>159570425

Oh, don't get me wrong, I love me some pokemon here and there and I do follow some Pokemon tcg youtube channels.... but looking at the new sets and how the design space of it has been milked dry makes me sad

There's so much you can do with "This attack does X damage in this Y way". I know there are some pretty cool cards and decks now and then but the majority of the sets just boil down to "I like this art or pokemon, I want that card"
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>Hearthstonefags will defend this
>Blizzard can literally decide who wins and who doesn't
>we want the slav audience and viewership
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>>159570815
tempo mage has much less reach and a higher time to kill than freeze, just remove minions and you should have plenty of time to stabilize and find your heal
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>>159569501
>I agree with crucial Control tech leaving.
>But the card that shits on Control should really stay, cause it's so balanced.

Spotted the netdecking aggro shitter.
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Y'all got any more of them card leaks?
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>>159571498
The devastation from amnesia fags is terrific

>hurrr I deserve to win DD:
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>>159571498
To be honest the thing that tilts me most is amnesiasc fags will gloss over all his rag shots because they're obvious butthurt 2pack fags
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Why did my regular Firelands Portal summon a golden Summoning Stone after killing a golden minion? Isn't that shit supposed to be decided by my card?
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>>159571678
Oh, I got a leak right here for 'ya.

Open wide.
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>>159571817
A good thing from hearthstone that happens when a spell targets a golden character and produces minions, probably a bug that they haven't figured out how to fix
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I just crafted thermaplugg for this brawl and am having a fucking blast lmao
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guys. what month is the next rotation? also what sets will be rotated out?
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>>159572445
April
Tgt, brm, and loe
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>>159572445
I swear to fucking god
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>>159572009
I can't believe they'd print such a blatantly OP 2 drop for Priest. It's like they learned nothing from Shaman.
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>>159572160
Hearthstone itself is a bug they havent figured out how to fix
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Entomb is one of the most overpowered cards ever printed, and the only reason people aren't talking about it is the Aggrostone meta.

Come December, you'll all see for yourselves, though. Get your theorycrafting ready, aggro cucks, because your archetype will be the only comfortable deck type left available once this expansion hits and Priests get their early game, which has been the missing link keeping them from being top tier.

Myself, I might seriously quit HS until at least the next expansion. Any kind of long game decks that I enjoy playing will be an absolutely pointless endeavor once Priests start dominating ladder.
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>finish game with some cunt
>sends me a friend request presumably to insult me after
>accept it several hours later
>they don't remember why they added me and never take me off
>i get another friend for watch & learn and the play a friend quests
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>>159572917
>have a huge friend list
>no idea who 95% of them are
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>>159553834
it could barely make poisoned blade viable
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>>159572857
That card is shit
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Little do these shitstain shaman players know that a 4/4 sleeper OP card beats a 3/4 OP card. Get rekt shaman fags. This crazy bearded midget will be meta one day.
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>>159553834
>>159554047

They act like TGT and Inspire was a mistake, yet print a card like this, worse than Coldarra Drake.

Maybe other cards in the set make it better...?
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>>159571702
>>159571716
>BLizzard literally rigs the games
>Amensiacfags
>Without the RNG this game would come down exclusively to dumping literall the only card you can play every turn
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>>159572917
>guy adds me to complain
>still be friendly and he's not too mad
>ask if I can spectate for the quest
>he says yes
>during his game he flips his shit over the other guy, concedes and removes me
>don't get to complete the quest
k
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>>159572669
Oh come on. When is it?
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>>159571596
>Spotted the netdecking aggro shitter.
You got me. I just love my netdecked aggro priest decks, full of all those amazing aggro priest cards.
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>>159573704
Learn English
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All this waiting. A month of waiting. Blizzard, why?
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I've been playing all day and I've lost 38 games and won 8. Fuck my life.
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>>159574612
What deck are you using, some form of priest?
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>>159574612
take a break
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>>159574706

Face Hunter, got legend with this deck last season and now I'm rank 20.
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>>159574612
I played like two games to get the play 50 paladin card quest then stopped playing reaching only 38
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>>159574612
Take a break, change your deck and format, go outside, install tinder and find yourself a chick or jack off for relaxation
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>>159574793
Take a break, also play something instead like hybrid hunter.
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>>159574612
Tilt is real. Play a different deck. Make a new one, totally. Have fun. Fuck around. Play arena. Take a break. Just break the cycle for a moment.

>>159574793
As it turns out, you really should switch decks. How can you have fun with that?
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>>159573563

Best 1600 dust ever spent
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>>159574896
I already have a chick so I can't do anything fun but play Hearthstone. And I can't even fucking win.
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welp i know what the new cancer deck will be
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>>159575103
Token Druid? I'm looking forward to it, love that deck.
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>>159575103
>turn 10 onyxia + this
Amazing.
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>>159575013
DESTROYED
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>Get your shit pushed in by a card/deck
>Save up dust and gold and finally make it
>Fucking lose over and over

What's her name?
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So would bubble decks play this over divine favor or both
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>>159575103
This card is so shit. So shit.

Unless you combo it with auctioneer or fucking jeeves its just irredeemably terrible
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>>159575681
Both maybe, for eboladin turbo
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>>159575681
Divine Favor can draw you 5-8 cards against control sometimes. And when you eempty your hand drawing 1-drops is not what you want to happen.
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>>159575681
Possibly both, between the two I'd probably prefer Small-Time Recruits.

I imagine that bubble decks will look more like midrange / secret paladin with this card though, thinning out their deck and smoothing their curve with 1 drops in midgame and drawing into their heavy cards afterwards.
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>>159575830
Is that why Power of the Wild has never seen any play?
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>>159575830
>1 mana cheaper power of the wild is bad.
>When token drood is already good
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>>159575830
Fucking idiot, you've obviously never heard of token druid.
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>>159575681
>only good if the aggro deck misses his 1 drops
>if this happens the aggro deck has lost
huh
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>>159575930
The upside for Divine Favor is only that high for control. Against aggro or even midrange it's not even that great. If the ladder meta is filled with aggressive decks the new card is better.
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>>159575681

Aggro or zoo will run this over divine favour unless control gets good

midrange will keep divine favour
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>>159575830

>Best case scenario 1 mana 7/7 Stats
>Worst case scenario 1/1 for 1 mana
>Easily Thaurissianed to cost 0 mana

How the hell is it terrible
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>>159575970
>>159576149
>>159576176
Token druid is already soooo bad for card advantage. Replacing token cards with more non token generating cards just drops the overall quality of the deck by so much.

Have fun after you run out of cards to play after 4 turns and the midrange shaman double aoes your board to clear it.
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>>159576465
Because if you are playing token druid you are top decking by turn 6. Playing thaurissan would be pointless. Good luck winning when you topdeck this card
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I like the design of this card. Gives you a big incentive if you ramp to 10 mana fast. 0-mana 7/7.

>>159576686
It exists to push damage, ideally 6 or 7 extra damage for 1 mana as a curve topper. The token deck is fucked by AoE anyways and Blizzard isn't going to print busted card advantage spells for Druid.
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I am thinking about botting

Any help, /hsg/?
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>and Blizzard isn't going to print busted card advantage spells for Druid.

Which is why token druid will always be shit
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is it just me or has the quality of art in this expansion dropped
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>>159576529

You could choose literallly anything and say 'good luck against midrange shaman' right now you turd. It also has syneegy with Cenarius which is great for druid.
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>>159576918
>gook fu
>coon the forgotten kang
Can blizzard get away with this?
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>>159577094
Not all of the images we have are at the resolution we can expect on release.
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>>159577094
>echo of medivh
>>
LADDER IS ONLY SHAMAN SO RANKING UP IS FUCKING IMPOSSIBLE BECAUSE MIRRORS ARE A FUCKING COIN TOSS.

THIS GAME IS A FUCKING JOKE
>>
>Play beast midrange hunter because fuck it
>Turn 1 Fiery Bat
>Opponent plays coin + maelstrom portal
>Portal spawns dragon egg, fiery bat's deathrattle hits the egg- giving him a 2/1 that counters my turn 2 play


Fuck this reality.
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>>159577602
After seeing the lengths their fans will go to to defend them I am convinced that Blizzard could literally get away with murder.
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>>159577000
Don't you stupid scumbag faggot. What is the point in playing the game if you are not actually playing the game? I am very against botting. I think you are stupid for trying to get your numbers higher without doing anything, since doing something is the reason you are playing this game.

>>159576918
I would be extremely butthurt about this card, it being a huge swing that really favors playing an aggro deck since you don't have to deal with all that value, but they released Arcane Giant already so who fucking cares. It'll see play, just like Giant.

>>159577094
I disagree. Thus far the art quality has been much higher, considering we have only seen low quality renditions of most of them. But the style and composition are quite consistent and good looking. Glad we are done with the garbage TCG's art.

>>159577716
That's what you get for not lying down and taking Thrall's dick.
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>>159577710
Reminder that blizzard chose to nerf a non problem classic card because the problem shaman cards are rotating out soon.
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>>159576918

Aviana > Kun > Angry trees > Cenarius > POTW > Lotus > Lotus

1 turn, 41/44 worth of stats spread across 6 minions. New combo deck anyone?
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why create maelstrom portal when arcane explosion is in the game?

Why are mage spells so mediocre?
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>>159578052
tempo mage is a good deck tho
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>>159578141
not after the rotation
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>>159577851
"SOON", SO IT'S FINE TO LET THE PLAYERS SUFFER FOR ALMOST A YEAR BECAUSE SOMETHINGS ROTATING OUT "SOON"?!?

IT'S A ONLINE FUCKING CARD GAME THEY COULD SOLVE THIS SHIT IN HOURS.

THE WHOLE TEAM 5 SHOULD GET FIRED.
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>>159578052
>Why are mage spells so mediocre?
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>>159578041
lol you can do way better with aviana kun

Aviana, Kun, Leeroy, Mark of Nature, Faceless, Faceless

Six cards, 30 Damage

Or Aviana, Kun, Malygos, any number of spells
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>>159578052
You are foolish. You have forgotten that mage has more than just arcane explosion as a spell.
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>>159537691
i typed in merlock and nothing comes up
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>>159578168
nothing rotates out until next year
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>>159578207
That's why almost no one here actually plays HS. Hearthstone sucks.
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>>159578141
>>159578210
>>159578315
Thanks for the (You)s.
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>can't buy old cards or adventures
wat. Literally why would they do this
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>>159537691
>Merlock
Who?
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>>159578041
>>159578312

aviana only makes minions cost 1, retards.
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>>159578041
Deathwing :^)
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>>159578823
So? The Leeroy combo costs 6 mana total with her discount. Malygos plus 9 mana worth of spells can be lethal multiple different ways. Are you stupid?
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>>159578757
to milk money from people by forcing them into the limited duration standard format
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>>159577094
Still better than Shadowverse art.
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>>159578757

>Digital card game
>Not constrained by print runs
>Still retires expansions because fuck you

Oh Team 5
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>>159576918
>Blizzard isn't going to print busted card advantage spells for Druid.
except fandral
and nourish
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>>159579009
No one said anything about SV. Kara just had better art.
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>>159579114
Nourish isn't really busted.
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Seriously why does every fucking game have to be against a Shaman. I'd pay 100€ to play against something else ffs this is so fucking boring and annoying
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>>159579318
yeah, it was fine for a long time
kind of like doomhammer-rockbiter in shaman
whispers pushed a lot of ok cards into not-ok territory
shit like fandral into nourish into raven idol into double 0 mana 8/8s into 25 face damage next turn is just broken

without fandral druid would be completely fine in my book
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>>159576918
I like that Reno Druid is an actual archetype I can experiment with, thanks to this card.

The biggest problem with Reno Control decks is that you're constantly playing a reactionary game. Enemy plays something, you counter it. Over and over and over. Well, with Kun, I can actually turn the tables and force my opponent to start reacting to MY minions that have been piling up in my hand, unable to be played.

At least, that's the idea.
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>>159573393
It's extremely good in control vs control. Overpowered, even.
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>>159579847
Play wild
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>>159578975

That sounds sick actually. I used to run an Aviana deck and outside of the normal spells the deck was pretty much just a ramp with lots of taunts. I don't know if you can fit moonfires and so on into an Aviana deck hoping you hit that combo, but maybe you can.
>>
REVEAL MORE CARDS ALREADY REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>159579990
The bigger question is probably, can you fit Aviana Kun into Malygos Druid?
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>>159576918
This card might actually make Druid interesting to play for once in it's miserable life.
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>>159579892
I hope you have fun, anon. I've tried Reno in every class and although he certainly shines in some, he is not too bad all across the board.

>>159580056
dude, hype, lol
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>>159572846
underrated post
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>Start tilting
>Take a break because it always helps
>Come back four hours later and keep losing
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>>159580056
Blizzard likes to have do an info dump of about 15-20 "remaining cards" about a week before release, so I wouldn't expect the daily card reveals to start until at least a week from now.
>>
So, how am I claiming my free packs?

I picked Pavel to win and it turns out he did.
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>>159577094
I'm also worried about that (composition-wise).
The resolution of course is because the portraits in all the mockups right now are just copied from the teasers, which aren't full-res.
But overall the quality doesn't seem to be on par with Kara.
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>>159580217
Here anon, this just winstreaked me from 16 to 11
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>>159539285

Im several hours late, but i dont understand why everyone else refuses to consider playing early game minions in priest. Just play a single fucking wild game and you will see how we used to play minions on priest.

Priest already have minichow and the strongest 3 mana card ever printed in history. If he recieves any 2 drop with around 2/4 worth of stats without any requisite, he has a full curve. There is no need of using meme combos like PSP + horror, just fucking trade minions into minions and receive board advantage.

Im telling ya "midrange" priest will become a thing.
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>>159580217
I'm rank 20. I was rank 3 earlier today. Fuck this I want to jump out of window or something..
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>>159580164
Reno decks are basically the biggest reason I play HS in-between the occasional laddering with boring tier 1 decks. Idunno what I'll do once he rotates out. Maybe Wild isn't so bad...?
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>>159580217
>Start tilting
>Take a break because it always helps
>Play a different game
>Have fun

I hate this game, but it would be so great to see Team 5 do a new expansion and actually create and nice and diverse meta
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>>159580443
a 2 mana 2/4/taunt isn't good enough?
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>>159552246
Yes
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>>159580505
Wild isn't too bad at all, anon. There is a lot less tryhards there.
I have the 80 gold quest. First to post their tag gets it. Be prepared for a Wild game.
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>>159558191
I know I'm late but rogue has always been top-tier in arena. The class is filled with OP tempo cards, it's the easiest class to get 12 wins with.

Anyone telling you to pick otherwise is just trying to lower the % of arena players using rogue so they don't have to play against it.
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>>159580636
>a 2 mana 2/4/taunt isn't good enough?

It clearly isn't, nor is a 3 mana 3/5 and a 4 mana 3/6 taunt
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>>159580849
DryBread#2141
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>>159580443
Because Priests in Standard don't have access to small minions that aren't dead draws past the curve, you Mongolian son of Saracens.

Have you ever played Dragon Priest, at all? Dragon Whelps are god awful wastes of a card slot after turn 4.
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>>159580636

No because dragon shit isnt reliable, that is why no one play that deck. Most of times hen you mulligan you are trying to get a expensive activator and a lot of cheap synergy cards and end up with a shitty hand. Same reason why beast druid turned out to be shit. You need activators. You NEED tiger turn 5 and warden turn 6.

Dragon priest wont be good, that dragon synergy card being released will be shit, the dragon aoe will be run, but without dragons, just a stronger excavate.

A deck with non-tribal minions like mini-chow and nu-cultist however will be strong. IF they release a strong 2 drop without situational bullshit.
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>>159580849
It would help if you mentioned which server you're playing on.
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>>159581023

Mini-Chow is a small minion that trades exceptionally well early on and have finisher potential with auchenai late game, so it isnt a waste of slot. New cultist is outright broken. Priest of feast and auchenai good 4 drops. All we need is a strong 2 drop without bullshit so we can cultist it turn 3.
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This is a two-of in every deck of every class.
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>>159581534
That asian caricature could not be more racist. We need to stand up to Blizzard and their blatant Orientalism.
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>>159581534
>Gook Fu Master
What did they mean by this?
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>>159581109
yeah, dragon-activated 2-drops are just awful
so unreliable
no way a dragon deck could become top-tier cancer and dominate the meta, right?
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>Leeroy + rockbiter + windfury

Why don't shamans run this?
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>>159581697
Fuck me I'm playing against a Dragon Warrior right now and they're roping every turn. What's the fucking point of playing a fast deck slowly?
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>>159581534
wow it's almost half as good as thrallmar, i'm sure it'll see a ton of play
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>>159581760

They've probably been watching the tournament and think that's what pro players such as themselves do
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>up against an aggro shitter
>just ramp and removal while I'm getting facefucked with weapons
>finally get to play Wisps
>aggro shitter repeatedly bms with greetings at the sight of puny 1/1s and brings me down to 2
>next turn, unleash the fucking fury and burst him down from 30 hp
just like in my animes
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I miss her
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>>159581463
I thought we're talking about current meta?
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>>159581534
Srsly though what will it take to dethrone Azure Drake?
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>>159582080
play wild
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>>159582085
Im talking about the meta when meme streets hit, arent you? Why would you talk about the meta of TODAY? It is only shaman shity.
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>>159582115
Why dethrone it? Most balanced card in the game.
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Is Dragon Warrior or Secret Hunter more scummy?
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>>159582115
A simple 5-mana 3/6 draw a card. It's a good step up from gnomish.
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>>159579909
Maybe, but one of the nice things about having 9 discrete classes is that you can give one an overpowered card to fix a bad match up and elevate them from crap to good without elevating another class from good to awesome. There's no such thing as a warrior deck that techs Entomb, for instance. Not like Yugioh, which had to lock pretty much all its effects into synergy to keep you from building a toolbox deck with all of the best cards.
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>>159582115

You can't dethrone the perfect card m8
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>>159582080

>Tfw miss lightbomb
>Will be getting nu-lightbomb in 1-month

I like how either one has positives and negatives, but I'm we are getting a real boardwipe after the disgrace that EE was
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>>159582289
Dragon warrior is more braindead.
Secret hunter requires a couple more braincells to play since you can lose a game to Swashburglar.
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How many canon characters do you think will be in the expansion?
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Playing brand new players is fun, they're so cute.

Other things he did:

Cast windfury on the same creature twice
Didn't attack with boar control
Hexed a two drop
cast rockbiter on the boar to clear a minion instead of face
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>>159580303
bumping this
I can't seem to find anything online which gives a specific date or way to get these packs.
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>>159582482
2
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>>159582562

Double windfury should work.
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>>159581731
Shaman still has dogshit cycle. Try it and see.

The class has always had amazingly tempting combo potential with all the windfury effects, ancestral spirit, reincarnate, far sight, rockbiter, etc etc but we've never been able to properly make use of it because of poor card draw.

You'll only really get to pull it off against priest and control warrior, pic related.
They're the only ones who'll sit still long enough for you to slowly find all the pieces.

Combo shaman basically needs something like the pre-nerf gadgetzan to be viable, there's just no way to cycle through the deck at a reasonable speed right now.
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>>159582482

Don't you mean CANNON characters?
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>>159582562

Did you let him win? Whenever I see people with all basic cards I concede whenever I have lethal

One win for them is pretty huge while for people like us who have most cards and adventures literally doesn't matter
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>>159582730

It's a shame, the rogue player in me wants it to work but meanies keep stomping my mana tide totems.
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>>159580303
>>159582656
They'll appear in your game whenever they feel like getting to it, you don't have to do anything.
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>>159583037

The game is free, fuck you, pay for my house and food.
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>>159582971
Fuck that. I shit on them and hope i leave
a burning sensation on their butt

Maybe this way they'll get off their jew ass and buy packs and rek
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>>159583108

You seem like a reasonable and educated person anon
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>>159582971
Conceding isn't good for karma. You're just telling the world "well, I didn't want to win that hard anyways".

Besides, why try to mask the fact that this game's P2P? I'd never recommend anyone to play without spending money. Me giving an F2P a free win will really not amount to all that much.
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>>159583195
Yes. I have a masters in beating that ass so hard
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>>159582971
I did since I was only doing the enraged minions quest.
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I am about to head into arena with this face hunter deck. 12-0 is my guess
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>>159582971

I do it in casual, I've almost accidentally beat players using meme decks to finish play x amount of shit quests
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Really makes you think...
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>Cards that will never see play
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>>159583447
>Hunter
>2 whole control spells

Good luck with that. At least you have 2 weapons. If you'll make it to any length, it'll be on the back of those things.
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>>159582115
>Srsly though what will it take to dethrone Azure Drake?

Here you go.
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>>159583681
Depends entirely on whether or not the new Priest cards end the aggro meta. If it doesn't, you're right, Kun is a meme card.
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>>159583206

I don't care for karma nor do I care about winning. If I cared about winning I would play games where skill matters the most

Besides, I'm not masking he needs gold to win, I concede exactly because people like >>159583108 exist and its so hard for new players to acquire gold/finish quests and each win matters a lot. I'm just trying to give someone a little push not to quit the game in his first games. (Plus, the 1/3 of the 10g is nothing)

I'm glad I'm not the only one ( >>159583359 and >>159583573 )
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>>159583681
I don't think so. It will be just like if you could run 3 arcane giants

>>159583668
It's some shit, yeah, but as broken as Innvervate is in Druid, imagine what it would be like in Rogue.
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lifecoach is talking about what happened when he went to blizzard, sounds like they didn't listen to him at all and love the current meta because the class diversity is better than it has ever been, even though one is currently the most represented class in the history of the game
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>>159583906

>dies to SW:D

its shit
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Just a regular arena game @ 2 wins
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>>159583969
That was short-lived.
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>>159583906

>Not a dragon
>Can't run two
>Dies to Rend
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>Paladin is a dogshit class lacking in identity and powerlevel
>"Hey Blizz, Paladin is really weak, can you do something about it?"
>Blizzard starts pushing the class by giving them strong minions
>Blizzard overcompensates and secret paladin becomes tier 0
>Blizzard removes everything from paladin

>Shaman is a dogshit class lacking in identity and powerlevel
>"Hey Blizz, Shaman is the worst class in the game, just don't give us the secret paladin treatment okay?"
>Blizzard starts pushing overstatted minions
>Blizzard overcompensates even further and gives them claws/maelstrom to shore up the decks one weakness, shaman becomes tier 0
>Shaman will lose everything and go back to being one of the worst classes in the game

>Priest is a dogshit class lacking in identity and powerlevel
>"H-hey Blizz, Priest is a little w-"
>HAVE
>SOME
>OVER
>STATTED
>MINIONS
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Lifecoach just said he had no influence over the new set, and that Pirate warrior is going to be OP
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>>159583668
On the one hand, part of having 9 different classes with no ability to splash another class' card means you can give each class cards based on their individual needs, strengths, and weaknesses, ant one class having a strictly stronger version of a card doesn't make the strictly weaker one unplayable. On the other hand, this card is complete trash unless you've got an auctioneer out, and I can't imagine miracle rogue decks running it.
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>>159583969
Team5 confirmed for not even playing the game.
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>>159583668

you're right, every class should have similar cards so that every class plays the same. Who needs subtle differences between classes strengths/weaknesses when everyone should be on a level playing field?
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>>159584180

>tfw going to play pirate hunter with double tracking to thin the deck to 25 cards
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>>159583906
>Inconsistent card text

Fuck off.
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What if Rexxar's Legendary isn't actually trash this year?
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>>159584347

>5 mana deathrattle
>summon 2 beasts that have died this game
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>>159583969
link?
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>>159582115
>What is Draconid Operative?
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>>159584503

it just ended, there's probably a vod on his twitch
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>>159583969
>>159584180

>Anons kept spouting bullshit
>"Lifecoach will clearly save the set and spot the problems within one week!"
>Blizzard literally ignores him

Its like poetry
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>>159563724

beasts and murlocs, duh, gotta take advantage of that Curator meta
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>>159583668
Anon stop, comparing class cards is as dumb as ever.
Classes are balanced as a whole, not card-by-card, and different cards have different power in different classes.
For example, see >>159582730. Shaman has many cards that it can't properly make use of, but that would be downright broken in rogue.

>>159583969
To be fair to them, class diversity is significantly better than it was before the kara/nerf shift.
Also better than it was during patron meta, secret pally meta, or huntertaker.
That's still shit though, they're judging themselves by incredibly low standards.
"At least it's not huntertaker" is not exactly a job well done.
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>>159584603
I still remember that player summit where kibler, reynad and a few others went to blizzard to discuss an upcoming expansion and what became standard

the expansion turned out to be tgt
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Why is there so many Druids on the ladder? Fucking bs class cheating mana
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>>159584802

The best part about the Lifecoach fiasco is that we already knew about the kibler and other proplayers stuff, but they kept saying "Hurr durr, Lifecoach will put Team 5 to senses in one week, you just see!"
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>>159584347
What if Rexxar gets a board clear this year?
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>>159584157
Paladin was pushed over the edge because of MC + Avenge and neutral minions like shredder, creeper, or belcher that perfectly fit the curve and made sure there would always be something to land Avenge/BoK on. Even then, secret paladin had much more viable counters than midrange shaman now.

In fact, paladin should be the easiest class to balance if Team 5 actually cared because the only problematic card he has is Divine Favor, and as long as he is not given some retarded burst or minions you can cheat out for free, Divine Favor is a tool for mediocre aggro decks only.
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>>159584603
>>159583969

What Lifecoach wants:
>decks that are hard to play, have little RNG and reward players who master the deck
basically patron warrior was the perfect deck for lifecoach

What Blizz wants:
>decks that you can get legend with while taking a shit, decks with a lot of rng and fun stories to tell your friends

they were never going to listen to him
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>>159585004
What is Rexxar got working card draw.
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>>159581534
>Kun the Forgotten King
>Coon (we wuz kangs)
>Grook
>Gook

Seriously what is up with all the *wink wink* slurs in this expansion? Are they trying to get the game shut down?

>>159584603
Lifecoach probably has a 165 IQ but if the 80 IQ Mod of Reddit had issues they'd probably send Zeriyah to give him a blowjob and a new 2GB patch, fuck.
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>>159585004
Only if it goes face. I've been running Explosive Traps in Secret Hunter and I have literally no idea why people aren't playing around it, maybe Shamans are idiots
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>Blizzard will never invite Kripp because they know that a control meta would make for a better game, but also a slower one that would risk loss of players.

It's pointless to invite anyone, because they will never do the right thing. Selling packs and attracting the face retards is always priority 1, and that has never needed fixing.
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Just got into this game the past weekend, confused about decks. I am not expected to build a deck myself this early, so do I just copy decks from Hearthpwn? Is the innkeeper app they provide worth grabbing?
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>>159585004
Powershot is more than good enough, just not worth running.
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>>159585184
Of course.
Blizzard doesn't want smart players. Blizzard want average to below average intelligence players. To appease smart players, they have to improve the game, to cater to dumb players they only have to pump out WACKY ADVENTURES with MEMES UPON MEMES.

They're jumping on the Trump train by printing cards that "speak their minds" like Coon the Kang and Gook
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>>159584157
>Overstated minion
>On a conditional effect
>With an effect that will lose all it's synergy soon
Quit complaining
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>>159584157
>Rogue is a dogshit class lacking in identity and powerlevel
>"Hey Blizz, Rogue is really weak, can you do something about it?"
>Blizz: Fuck off.
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>>159584603
You mean pottery?
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>>159585775
>Rogue is a dogshit class lacking in identity and powerlevel
>"Hey Blizz, Rogue is really weak, can you do something about it?"
>"Blade Flurry is a problem because it enables both board clear and heavy burst damage, and it’s also an obstacle to adding better cards for Rogues. To address these issues, the cost of Blade Flurry is moving from 2 to 4 mana, and it will now only affect minions, so that Rogues have to choose between removing threats or damaging the enemy Hero."

ftfy
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>>159585585
>With an effect that will lose all it's synergy soon

Game is gonna' get fucking weird after the next rotation. I wonder if Blizzard will ever dabble with tribes again? Aside from gay ass Murlocs, of course.

God, I fucking hate Murlocs. They've NEVER been fun.
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>>159585775

>still no new weapon or poison to buff weapon revealed
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>>159586157
No.
Blizzard removed murkeye from standard for a reason. Murlocs will never be a thing.
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>>159586130

>We nerfed blade flurry to open up design space for rogue weapons
>Like deadly fork
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>>159537206
Anyone got an account they want to sell with golden gelbin mekkatorque?
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>>159586280
They really forked rogue didn't they
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>>159586356
How much you offering?
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>>159586280
>deadly fork into deadly fork into poison into attack into blade flurry for 5 aoe damage
What are you faggots complaining. That's perfectly fine.
Sure, it costs maybe 11 mana and is a 3 cards combo, but just ignore that.
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>>159586356
I'd want fifty bucks, but sure.
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>When Garrosh skips his first three turns and you have Highmane in hand
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>>159586387
Depends what exactly the account has and if it's NA or not
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>>159585416
A-anyone?
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>>159585184
koon the forgetten kang is just ridiculous, i can't believe nobody in the PR/CR department objected to that.

>>159585004
control hunter doesn't need more board control, it mainly needs survival tools
a healing wave would be great
it's really painful to have to resort to reno, since hunter relies so hard on a few important cards.

>>159585435
i really like the powershot, explosive shot, etc spells, but they'll only be good if we get proper draw or massive lock-and-load support.
It's the same lesson we learned with shaman: using spells to control the board requires draw/cycle.
Without it, you're forced to rely on minions instead because you absolutely need to trade cards at 2-for-1 or better.
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>>159585416
>>159586689
Look up budget decks on Hearthpwn and Reddit
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>>159586707
desu you have to be versed in period racial slurs and mid level memes to get coon the forgotten kang

Gook fu is right out there like a gay pride parade float though.
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>>159585585
>soon
Stop this, please.
We have what, 5 months till the rotation?
Do you really think it's ok for the meta to be this bad or worse for another 5 months?
People have as much of a right to complain about the new priest cards as they do of TFB, totem golem, etc.
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>>159586480
Is it an NA account?
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>>159583969
Post it on reddit and get them pissed off about it
There really should be backlash for all this lazy and conservative fucking card design

Fuck the only reason priest is getting good cards is because of reddit's purify backlash
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I'm really enjoying playing control warlock right now (the real one with giants)
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How long before they realize they're not printing enough cards for a 2 year rotation and make it a 3 year cycle?
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>>159587139
RIP true handlock. Unless you're insane enough to run both giants.
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>>159587161
>Hey guys we're extending the cycle to 3 years
>they print 1 expansion and 1 adventure a year
>Fanboys still defend them.
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>>159586914
Honestly? Buffing Priest for only a temporary 5 months seems like an alright maneuver to please the community.

Way fucking better than the year and a half of Shamanstone.
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>>159587161
Hopefully before this rotation hits.
With LoE, BRM and a few TGT cards gone, several classes as dead. Deader than dead.

>>159587331
Nah, that would mean they are printing less cards which means they are selling less stuff. Bad for the business.
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>>159585416
>>159586689
I'd strongly suggest trying to build decks by yourself at first, it's one of the most fun parts of a TCG and you'll learn a lot about the game very quickly.
Many people skip this and don't end up learning the basics of deckbuilding until months (or even years now) into the game, and get needlessly frustrated on ladder/brawl/arena/etc because of it.

Ask around here too, lots of f2p people working on cheap decks.
I'd suggest starting with warlock and shaman first, then hunter and warrior next.
Mage is also an excellent starter, but its decks are typically heavily RNG-based and not as good for learning the fundamentals.
Save priest, paladin, rogue, and druid for later when you've got more experience and a better collection (they're typically trickier decks that rely on many expensive cards).
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>>159587586
>druid for later
Ramp Druid's just fine for beginners
>>
How can you be 3-2 with 3 tuskar totemic and every t1 card imaginable, fuck these clowns...
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>>159587262
All they need to make molten playable again is make a warlock card that converts health into armor.
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>>159587586
>>159587673
This
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Is Piranha launcher the purify of this expansion?
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>>159588030
Don't underestimate Team 5's ability to print something worse than Pirhana Launcher
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>>159588030
Sleeper OP
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>>159587674
Tuskar is not that great nowadays if you don't follow it up with an attack buff aura.
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>>159587586
For building a deck, any resources i can read up on for tips on building one? I like the idea of building it but i thought it was a veteran privilege.
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>>159588030
I have a feeling we have yet to see THE Purify of this expansion.
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>>159588030
Not close, in terms of actual quality. launcher isn't good but is much better than purify. Meme wise also it doesn't approach it even.
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>>159588030
Yes
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>>159588030
No, it's more like Tentacles for Arms of this expansion, because it has unique, but rather useless properties and costs way too much.

Meanstreet Marshall is the Purify of this expansion so far.
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>>159588117

I said he have every t1 imaginable, he rolled spell totems and had lighting storms, crackles, thing from below, flametongue, hex I feel like I'm playing fucking ladder almost and this braindead shitstain has 3-2
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>>159588030
Possibly, although I doubt it. Piranha Launcher is just bad because the stats and cost they gave it. Fundamentally, it's a perfectly fine idea. It's no purify.

>>159588348
Same thing with Marshall. We have had plenty of useless cards before, but nothing so aggressively bad as Purify.
>>
>that deck that you've always wanted to be viable but it never has been

what's her name /hsg/?

>tfw non combo murloc paladin has never been good
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Sleeper OP
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>>159588665
I want to play Malygos Shaman. I thought spirit claws and Maelstrom Portal might have been the boost it needed.
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>>159588665

Standard Nzoth priest
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>>159588665
Hobgoblin anything. Although it was briefly used in some Zoo variants and in Eboladin, both decks which I despise.
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>>159588757
even if you get two minions to stick on 1 and 2 and drop this on 3 that's double wild growth for a 25% discount.
>>
always
the
same
fucking
braindead
fucking
decks
over
and
over
and
over
and
over
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>>159588757
Nah. It's a card that clashes with your decks archtype.
To get the most out of it, you need a lot cheap minions. Yet if your deck has enough cheap minions to consistently use it, then why do you need such ramp?

I believe the real factor that will decide the fate of the card is how it works when you are already at 10 mana. Will it let you draw a card for every extra crystal, or will it be just one. If it's just one, the card is basically useless.
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>>159588925
Greetings Traveller
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>>159588757
There will be completely broken scenarios sponsored by Raven Idol, but I don't think this card is consistent enough to run.

Obviously, it would be 2 of in every token deck if it refreshed mana like Nourish, even as a Choose One between ramp or this turn only.

Thank fucking god it's not.
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>>159588925
play some Arena ;)

> Enemy always have dr boom
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>>159588925

HS has a small pool of cards + limited deckbuilding tools

The game will be like this forever, but hey, I'm overhere playing my reno shadowform decks

>>159589090
>play some Arena ;)

I love how this would actually be the solution, but its Mage the format
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>>159588831
You do realize any hobgoblin deck will always be some kind of zoo/aggro deck right?
>>
Let's not wait too long. New thread, promptly:


>>159589160
>>159589160
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>>159588793
I've always wanted that to be good too
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>>159588149
These pages have a bunch of articles on the basic theory:
http://hearthstoneplayers.com/fundamentals-deck-building/
http://hearthstone.blizzpro.com/tag/deck-building/
And there's this guy, who does really great writeups on sort of off-the-wall decks and the thought process behind them:
http://end-boss.com/kyles-archive/
And Tom, whose site is apparently down right now:
https://www.good-gaming.com/guide/471

There's also VS, which publishes weekly statistical reports on the state of the game. These are pretty much the only stats we have to work with, so we all refer to them. They also post some of the top current and rising decklists for that week.
http://www.vicioussyndicate.com/vs-data-reaper-report-25/

Then there's Twitch, you can often see some of the best players and deckbuilders in the world working on refining their lists. Forget the big 10,000-viewer celebrities, most of them suck cocks at the game.
People to look for off the top of my head: Purple, Rage, VLPS, Ant, Gaara, Xixo.
These guys typically build and play new top-tier decks, you'll see their names on lists and pros crediting them all the time.
There's also people who are considered the specialists/experts for certain decks or classes (eg Laughing for freeze mage, Zetalot for priest).
One of the benefits of HS is that you can just go on and talk to them directly, ask questions, debate tech choices, etc.

At the end of the day though, your biggest tool is the ladder. Trial and error.
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