/hsg/ - Hearthstone General

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This expansion better not revive Secret Shittery

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I want to _____ Grove Tender!

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Explain why aren't playing Shadowverse

The superior game without "le epic rng XD", gorgeous art and made by professional magic players instead of pizza boy and his retarded team.

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Do cards get revealed daily during the pre-release period?

>>159510679
>made by professional magic players
i wouldn't go around advertising that if i were you
do you know the track record of games made by magic pros?

I want Kun to be a viable card solely so that I can hear streamers say "Coon" to a live audience on a daily basis

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>>159510667
>Deer pussy

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>>159510746
We got three today so that's a good sign.

>>159510746
usually once a week for batch reveals, sometimes they've delegated reveals to streamers for single cards

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>>159510679
WTF I hate Hearthstone now

>>159510792
Pity they were horrible

>>159510846
>>159510679
What is this meme about Shadowverse having better looking cards / art though?

They're all horribly busy and have detail in all the wrong places, I don't easily see what I'm looking at.

Lil Exorcist may be an exceptionally ugly card from the set, but at least it has high contrast to make it easily identifiable even on mobile. Aurelia is all just different bright shades of white and yellow.

The footage I've seen of the game seems so universally generic in theme and visual style that it's not engaging. Hearthstone understands that the viewing experience is what makes an online CCG successful. That's why all the actions and card effects are clearly displayed, and it employs humor, sound effects, even cheering crowds when you hit face.

>>159510679
This is just embarassing at this point for trying so hard

>>159510667
ride


>>159510375
What? Conjurer is very good. And this card is at the powerlevel of that. I am predicting now that this will absolutely see play. Of the three tri-class discovers, this is the second best easily.

>>159510679
The game is more restrictive than Hearthstone, even. Not every class has a competitive deck and there are a lot less options for memes.

>>159511436
>>159511497
>>159511560

Since that image has been reposted quite some few times now and the quality of the post I'm pretty sure he is baiting pretty hard, not even trying to hide

>Rogue Mastery

*sigh* I will just reroll I guess...

>Go play a game that isn't based around coin flips
>Come back and find rogue has gotten a 3 mana 2/3 burgle 1 card

Fucking why
Just make a blade flurry replacement or something and call it a day

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>>159511560
>Play Rogue
>Discover Doomhammer
>Double Deadly Poison

I'm ready.

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every time rag comes down i fucking know what's about to happen
at this point i'd rather see yogg

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Fresh news from plebbit.

What do you think it'll be /hsg/?

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>>159511928
well this is paladin's 1-drop
so let's just say i'm not optimistic

>>159511928
>It is hard to tell how strong it is from reading it though

In other words it's shit

>>159511928
Do we have any idea what time he actually means?

Is soon in an hour or more like 2 days?

Also, "It's hard to tell if it's good just by looking at it" is usually code for "It's shit but I don't want to say that so I'm going to act like there's a chance it could be viable"

In other words, not a good sign for Paladin players.

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Anyone else excited for maximum Renoing?

>>159512007
direwolf

>>159510746

almost daily

they give streamers a card each alongside websites like ign to unveil then in the final week before release they dump them all so they can put the next release up on the patch servers and don't have to worry about data miners leaking it

>>159512007

they put that in to buff shaman without the community crying

>>159512198
if that was worth a slot, runic egg would be worth a slot

>>159512198
You need to hang yourself as soon as possible

>>159511928

noggenfogger better transform your character into a skeleton

>>159511928
When and where though?

"Soon" could literally mean anything. It also doesn't tell us where to 'stay tuned'.

Can someone clear this up for me or is this just buzzwords just saying that they're planning to reveal another card at some point today through twitter or whatever?

>>159512256
you are not worth a slut

>>159512264
no

>>159512256
If they continue to push the Menergerie idea, then dire wolf and marshal would be right at home in a hybrid eboladin deck.

>>159512198
And what's next? This awesome combo can't even kill anything dangerous.

>>159512305
they probably mean it's part of the next blog post or whatever official way they release cards (i.e. it won't be a random leak today like the rogue legendary)

so i guess on monday?

>>159512243
>Shaman gets this from Maelstrom Portal
>Can probably more consistently buff it to get the effect off than Paladin

Fucking bullshit is what it is.

>>159512276
Battlecry: randomly random random a random minion into one of 3 outcomes.

Turn it into a 5/5 skeleton.
Sets it's stats to 1/1.
Sap it.

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Screenshot this.

Druid is going to get a card that increased their max hand size by 2.

>>159512336
Wish i could push you off a cliff instead you clueless jughead

I just realised pavel didnt even play around misdirection in warrior-druid game.this "esport" is a joke

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>>159512435

please no

>>159512498
you can't play around rng

>>159512428

sounds dumb but believable

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>>159512483
Please be nice.

>>159512198
cant wait to trade up into all those 1/3's lmao

>>159512368
Yeah but anon, you get a completely underwhelming deathrattle trigger for your effort.

You actually DRAW A CARD while playing aggro! Paladin has no cards that can draw them lots of cards while playing aggro, they also don't have motivation to keep their hand relatively empty to maximize the effect of a certain card.

In case I'm being too subtle, I was saying that Divine Favor renders small-time card draw effects in aggro paladin completely pointless because the whole idea of the card is to empty your hand then draw a shitload of cards with it. Which means that the new 1-drop actually has anti-synergy with current aggro paladin strategies.

Do you think Patches is going to be run in Rogue decks, just because you can pull it out with Swashburglers?

It thins your deck, makes Swash way more powerful and worst case you can just play Patches and Cold Blood it

>>159512435
Doubtful because they would have to change the mobile ui

This is one of the reason we keep getting bullshit rng deathrattles, and why most non battle cry minion effect that affects the board is rng, cause blizzard would have to make a way for you to choose stuff recurringly or on your opp's turn (ie instants/traps)

Hope we get decent hate cards this expansion

>>159512518
two giant gypsies embracing each other

really makes you think

>>159511436
It is pure shitposting buddy relax.

>>159512854
Hate of what?

>>159512906
He means cards that target specific decks

>>159511436
It's shitposting. No one in their right mind thinks weeb art looks good.

>>159512634
Yes, Patches will be run in most Rogue decks in all likelihood because it provides good early game tempo and improves consistency by thinning your deck by 1 card.

>>159512518
Brode should be obliterated from the face of the earth.

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>>159510846
Nice try animecuck.

>>159512634
There's basically no reason not to run him in any deck that runs at least 1-2 pirates. It allows you to run one less card in your deck (after you summon a pirate) AND get a 1/1 with charge at no cost whatsoever.

>keep getting matched against perfect counter decks
>in the fucking tavern brawl
IT'S A FUCKING BRAWL BLIZZARD
WHY ARE YOU RIGGING MATCHMAKING

>>159513056
Yeah, it's not even like he's a dead draw, worst case scenario if you draw him before playing a pirate is that you have a 1 mana ping that you can drop whenever you need it or have the mana to spare.

>>159512634
I think Patches is going to be mandatory in any deck that runs any pirates, and a strong case for N'zoth's First Mate and Swashburglar in Warrior / Rogue, if you're not already playing them.

He's basically like a free ping at the start of the game, who if you mulligan properly and have 3-4 pirates in your deck or so, can be extremely reliable and thin your deck some.

It's free tempo, and with Rogue hero power or rusty hook he can help you easily remove an opponent's 1 / 2 drop and take the lead.

>>159512165
What is this guy even

A weird troll ?

>>159513204
A dragon in human form

>>159512608
Small time is meant to replace Divine Favor, not to be run alongside it. Divine favor is exceptional against midrange and control decks but it's shit againstother aggro (like shaman, zoo or hatever hunter might play) which are already way more effective than aggro pally.

I think we need to see expansion's other cards to properly judge the new 1 drop since there is a strong implcation that paladin is geting more buffs. If those buffs turn out to e reaally good, then the new 1 drop might work along wih the new legendary.

>>159513204
The art director said essentially that, he was some sub-race of troll I can't be bothered to know enough lore to tell you, and that his tusks are all weird because of corrupted magic. Those red tattoos are all basically extra magic he's got available inside himself to access when he needs.

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>>159513238
The black guy on stage said it's a zandalari troll and his tusks got fucked up from the corrupted mana.

>>159513028
Which card uses the Paladin in the bottom middle

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>>159513028
Nice try blizzdrone

>>159513346
What is this game?

Weebstone: weebs of weebcraft?

>>159513243
If one of them isn't a group buff (Like the druid 1 mana +1 to all minions thing) then it won't make Meanstreet more playable.

There's an argument that can be made for Small-time in aggro pally decks but not Meanstreet. There are plenty of other, better 1-drops you could run that would be much more reliable. Hell, the fact that Small-time exists alone renders Meanstreet meaningless because it already provides the card draw that an aggro deck needs.

There's no argument for Meanstreet being a good or even playable card. It's bad and people need to just accept that.

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>Feel like playing Secret Hunter
>Get Play 10 Secrets quest
Literally like pottery

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So, does this confirm we will never get ninja as a subtype? Also, Patches the Pirate is a demon, but only pirate is represented. Does that mean for sure they will never have multiple tribes on a card.

>>159513346
Yeah, the ones on the right have too much going on and no focus, not to mention the garbage waifushit. The ones on the left are simple and get the point across.

>>159513476
That would be too confusing

>>159513346
>The worst card art in Hearthstone is still more clearer, brighter and alive than the art of Shadowverse
Honestly forces me to cognate

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>SIX (6) MANA
Explain this Hearthtards

how's the malyrogue-freeze mage matchup?

>>159513559
It's crazy that they left this card as is. Ever since the rotation it doesn't do anything because Webspinners are no longer in the game.

>>159513559
Webspinner simply replaces itself with a random minion
This is essentially card draw, because you spend 1 card to get 3/3 in stats and 3 random beasts
If control hunter was a thing it could be played

>>159510679

I'd give Shadowverse a try if it was for PC too, but it's just another shit mobile game. HF fag.

>>159513559
blizzard pretends they want control/value hunter to be viable. but in reality, hunter will always be best when he's face

>>159513559
It's the price of the tax on combining cards. Most of the time there is a small cost when you combo multiple cards. For some reason they highly overcharged the tax on this one.

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>>159513681
Secret Hunter is Control

I refuse to play Shadowverse because its weebshit.

>>159513559
Would have been playable if it gave the webspinners charge.

>>159513642
usually a win for freeze mage unless they don't draw ice block

>>159513678
News flash, it's available on Steam since two weeks ago.

How come there aren't any LGBTQ characters in Hearthstone?

It's very disappointing.

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>>159513693
What were they thinking?

>>159513786
Frodan limits design space.

>>159513476
This does not confirm either of those at all. This is an online card game, and those changes are very simple. Thats like saying since tracking was released, we'll never see the discover mechanic.

>>159513786
Kibler is transdragon and he sucks dicks. Does he count for diversity quota?

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>>159513731
In what way is it control?

>>159513786
What are you talking about? Anduin's a faggot.

>>159513813
They were very strongly pushing control warrior, and conceived of this card as a control card. In order to get anything afloat, it must be broken as hell. They just went pretty damn far with it.

>>159513786
There's a Q now? What does it stand for?

>>159513916
Just like how Dr. Boom was only ran in control decks cause it was 7 mana

>>159513969
Queer

But it's actually LGBTQA+ now

>>159513984
>>159513916
someone post Boar Control

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>>159513895
All the included traps are designed to control the board

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>>159513559
it's a piece of shit. Hunter has a long list of shitty useless cards.

>>159513674
>>159513681
it's not playable even in the slowest hunter decks
it's one of the only cards in the game that might be balanced at 2 less mana, or even less
pic related, i run a copy of this and often fill my hand for 3
the catch is that many of the beasts you get are completely unplayable
getting shit like mukla against tempo mage makes you want to cry

>people think priest is being made op
>it's just being given one live support shortly before being taken off another life support

>>159514012
You know, since queer can be applied to most of these sexual orientation they could become a lot more approachable by just calling it 'QT'. Or just 'Q' since trans isn't a sexuality and is just kind of tacked on for some reason.

Special snowflakes need to feel like everyone is paying attention to them specifically I guess.

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>>159513731
So is Zoo

>>159513458
I do too think that Meanstreet will probably not good. But there is a chance that it can fill a role in a bizzare Paladin deck. Like, if pallys get a low mana buff such as "reduce your minions hp to 1, increase their attack by 1 and give them divine shield", that can enable a superzoo deck where you need to draw your entire deck in like 6-7 turns and rely on divine shield synergy cards to pull off an early win.

I'm just spitballing here of course. I don't think such a buff is likely nor do I think blizz is brave enough to push such extreme cards. But one can hope.

>>159514115
Priest will fundamentally never be OP because it will almost always lack a win condition-Deathwing Father of Dragons into a full dragon hand is something that will very rarely happen.
The fact is, Control Priest's win condition 'disable all the foes' threats' which means that it will be as good as the predictive ability of the decks' players.

>/hsg/ - Gender Studies General

>my mech beast dragon n'zoth priest deck will never be viable
Man fuck this shitty game and fuck the 30 card deck limit

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>>159514371

Don't forget art studies, since apparently everyone here knows what consists in a good piece and what doesn't

>>159514458
Woah this is ugly.

>>159514290
I don't want Blizzard to go full aggro with Paladin.

I hate aggro.

>>159513895
my wife cabal shadowpriest is going to need a bigger box soon :)

>>159514539
Aggro is what keeps Control honest.

Without aggro, we just have control warriors armoring up into fatigue.

Forever.

>>159514564
She was my wife first. Literally the first Epic I ever crafted

>>159513559

some people want to win with bad cards anon

>>159514573
That's what Hunter and Shaman are for anon.

Leave Paladin alone.

Any real niggas got advice for evolved kobold freeze mage? Tryinf to get better

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>>159514573
>he doesnt want 30 minute matches for an all skilled RNG win

>>159514658

better off watching good freeze mage streamers like navioot

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>>159514658
Stop playing Freeze Mage, you fucking niggerfaggot.

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>mfw playing Hunter for the first time in months
There's so much power in this class, just so much power

>>159514750

I went 15-5 with it the other day after having switched from wallet warrior who kept getting keked by hunters

>>159514353
i guess you're confused and think we're talking about control shaman here?
priest is the exact opposite, its main problem is surviving the early and mid game
once you're there you can deploy whatever endgame package you want, or just steal the opponent's if you're too lazy to bring your own

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it's time

TIME FOR GIMMICK LEGENDARIES

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>>159514826

>4 mana super eadric

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>>159514826

>>159514931
I liked the "end your turn" on the first horseman, but this one seems pointless.

I'd rather you design all the horsemen with effects that make "ending your turn immediately" relevant.

>>159514539
As anon says here >>159514573 aggro keeps control in check, aggro itself is not a problem.

The problem is the way Blizz completely turned the concept of aggro into mindless OP shit by creating low drops that requiers no thought process whatsoever to play effectively and consistently. Which happens to have no proper counter on top of it.

Currently aggro punishes almost every kind of deck with the same mindless play (even bots can do it) that can't be prevented if the aggro draws good.

That is not fun. If only Blizzard was competent enough to produce some quality aggro play which requires more than pulling out a Doomhammer + 2x rockbiter for 16 damage to face, or you know, give other decks proper tools to fight against aggro. Quality aggro is healthy for the game, it offers variety and keeps certain decks in check, but hearthstone is in such a bad place right now due to Blizz's ignorance and arrogance that I hate myself for giving up my time for this shitty game.

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are we posting shit meme cards now?

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>tfw watching card reviews

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>>159514931

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>>159515294
>>159515051
Truth be told, I ran out of ideas pretty quick, but i have a meme, so i'm going to meme.

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>>159515243
I really enjoy watching the 1+ hours full card reviews at the end

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>warsong nerf made otk patron unplayable

lmao

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>>159515384

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If Priest gets buffed to hell this expansion, what are our options to counter it?

>>159515243
Why? They are always so wrong

>>159515479

that's half the fun

>>159515478
OTK decks like Malydruid and Malyrogue

>>159515478

dragon priest; secret hunter
control priest; anything combo/otk

>>159515478
Fun and interactive combo decks like Rogue, Freeze Mage and Malygos Druid

>>159514573
>>159515189
this isn't really true
control warrior and shaman are pretty damn good against aggro decks in general
the only big exceptions are hunter for warrior because of hot sticky beasts, and tempo mage in general because LOL TAUNT IS CHEAT

combo decks are the real counter to control in HS
they prey on CW effectively, and make control shaman completely unplayable because it can't armor up at all.

at the end of the day, most aggro decks are interactive
they put their minions on the board where control decks can remove them
they damage over multiple turns so they can heal back up
combo decks don't do any of that, they offer no potential counterplay besides either the tank up button or the concede button, depending on your class
they'll always hard counter control

>>159515478
Unfair bullshit combo decks

hearthstone is literally not logging in (EU)

I've been gone for a few weeks.

How did Secret Hunter become a thing? I thought everyone tried the free secrets card and decided it was a meme? This was back when CotW was 8 mana. Don't you end up with an empty hand half the time?

>>159515478
Renolock + Leeroy PO faceless

>>159515601
Just wait for the apology pac... oh wait.

>>159515656
>Don't you end up with an empty hand half the time?
yes, then you top deck quick shot into leeroy for lethal

>LoE was two years ago

Where does the time go?

>>159515478
Miracle Rogue, N'Zoth deathrattle to outvalue them, or Fatigue warrior

>>159514143
Also why is lesbian in there if they also have gay? It's very redundant.

>>159515243
Max comfy. Who is your fave reviewer?

>>159513328
BUMP

>>159515656
pray to the top deck gods

>>159515792
League of Explorers released November 12, 2015. Are you memeing?

>>159515953
I don't think any actual card uses that art.

Maybe an adventure card? Or maybe it's just art from the WoW TCG?

>>159515656
Face is the place, top deck lethal

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>>159515986
I think it is generic TCG art, that's all.

What the cuck

Why aren't we talking about the two new leaked leggos?

>>159516051
Because they are boring and shit.

>>159516051
3/4 sucks outside of control warrior.

Rogue one sucks but will probably be played. It is hard to key excited about a burgle effect on a legendary.

>>159516153
>More Tank Up memery
Can Control Warrior fuck off and die already

>>159516153
It's complete garbage in and outside of control warrior.

>>159516051
There's also that Common 5 mana 3/5 with Windfury. I think that one mite b cool, actually.

Based Toast leaking stuff

https://hsreplay.net/replay/9gCiwEoRccmaLchPquFT5m
cant wait until i share this story with my friends :^)

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>>159516315

>>159516051
Beardo probably won't see much play. Not many decks can afford to spam away all their spells just to use their hero power a couple more times.

The rogue legendary is fine, it's just kinda underwhelming and low impact for a legendary minion.

>>159516315
Maybe. It's a hell of a lot of better than most other windfury fellows.

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>>159516398

>>159516373
Link

>>159516315
>>159516398
It's closer to playable than Grotesque Dragonhawk and Windfury Harpy were, not that that says much

>>159516315
Might work with cheap buffs, maybe could see play in charge warrior to get some efficient trades.

>>159516454
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OD0Zbcgo9wo

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>>159515575
>control warrior and shaman are pretty damn good against aggro decks in general

Control shaman only got decent against aggro after maelstorm portal, before that it was a joke. Even now a couple of bad draws and you have no chance to win. Control warrior is decent to good against every deck (except maybe priests) but especially after the execute nerf, if aggro draws good, countrol warrior too can't stop aggro.

Aggro have no consistent counter. I always has been like this since I started playing (which was in beta). Face hunters, face warriors, zoo, and now shaman. It's all the same. You try your best to survive against an aggro deck praying that he doesn't draw good.

Combo decks are almost irrelevant because Blizz is out there swinging their ban hammer like a fucking zealot obliterating every combo deck that gets viable consistency.

>at the end of the day, most aggro decks are interactive
>they put their minions on the board where control decks can remove them

Good luck removing 1 drops like troggs which requires 4-5 mana aoe minimum to remove. Also keep suckin RNGesus' cock so that you would have your board clear in hand by turn 4 or you'd better concede.

>they damage over multiple turns so they can heal back up

LMAO. Are you suggesting these aggro decks can't suddenly shit out ridiculous amounts of burst damage from hand on top of the broken minions they have been beating you up with in the early game?

Also, good luck healing up with a class other than Priest, Warrior, Paladin, and maybe Druid.

>>159515898

I'm currently watching jackie chans review, it's pretty comfy so far. I still have a few to go but I'm looking forward to kibler shilling

>>159516315
>5 mana for 3 attack minion that can attack twice.

Maybe if you are trying to climb from rank 25 to 24 it can help quite a bit.

>>159516482
If you want to use new charge with warrior for efficient trades, you use magnataur alpha for that. 4 mana 5/3 that can kill three enemies at once.

In fact, I'm kinda surprised i haven't seen anyone even try charge / alpha against the shaman decks, seeing how it can one shot a thing from below by hitting the taunt totem next to it.

>>159516653
People have tried.

Problem is that it's just not consistent enough to really make a difference against all the good shit Shamans have right now.

Also there's not always a convenient taunt totem around to run into.

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>No cow hero

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>>159516737
what kind of garbage

>>159515459
>Can't play without already having 4 different legendaries
Other than that, I enjoy the idea of all these cards

>>159516737
pls be OC

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>>159516737
>making one of the best characters from warcraft 3 freezenigger/combo shit

Do not.

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>>159516960

>>159516960
well were gonna need a replacement for emperor

>>159513028
>venture co
>proof of good art

you shot yourself in the foot pretty nicely mate

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>>159517036

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;^}

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>>159516315
>>159516440
>>159516473
>>159516482
wow if you think that card's good, wait till you see pic related

>>159516571
you sound like a combo player abusing the word "control"
a control deck is one that controls the board
not the enemy's face
a control deck brings removal for troggs and imps
not removal for the enemy's face

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My typical Hearthstone game.

Also r8 cards I got from Burgle.

The new Paladin 2 drop is:

2 mana
1/1
Battlecry: give a friendly minion +2/+2

Mark my words. Blizzard wants you to combo it with the new 1 mana 1/2 "deathrattle: draw a card if this has 2 or more attack" dude.

That's why they said it's difficult to evaluate by itself, as it entirely depends on you getting a 1 drop on the field.

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>>159517127

>>159517189
is this hearthstone? wtf?

>>159516737
Is that a bad OC?

>>159517127
>>159517215
surprised there hasn't been a brawl like this yet

>>159517194
That would be a terrible 2 drop for paladin

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>>159517234
Renounce lock is fun

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>>159517215

>>159517189
I beat that exact meme deck with my own meme deck

guys i miss gvg

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>>159517341

>>159517341
Yeah I wish I could win on turn 7 when I play Dr. Boom and clear the board with it. Oh wait I can still do that in >Wild.

>>159517215
NEW ROGUE WEAPON CONFIRMED

>>159517459
You are not funny you fucking control cuck. I will be your fucking end.

>>159517413
>triggered
Please spoiler that shit, anon.

>>159517519
Calm down.

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>>159517296

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>4 months since i last played hearthstone
>check out the new expansion
>add a random class card to your hand
looks like i wont be installing again thanks blizzard

>>159517341
I miss cards that weren't played because of the blatant OP cards in their rotation and will never get played thanks to the constant unbalancing of wild

>>159517413
Not THAT broken outside combo druid

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>>159517614

>>159517647
Come play Shadowverse

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>>159517705

>>159516737
>>159516806
>>159516853
>>159516960
>>159517235
Samefag.

>>159517413
If it'd been 1-cost, would it have been balanced?

>>159517413
i loved shredder and mechwarper and all of those rascals, but i mostly miss things like hobgoblin or other fun little one-offs that will never see the light of day.

>>159517881
but isn't that even better than 2?

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>>159517764

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Watch Shaman get pic related in the new expansion.

>>159517413
Dies to Shredder, so it's shit.

>>159517987
Give this card overload too
It would make it even funner

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>>159517984

>>159517881
the power level of 1-drops is pretty ridiculous at this point
1 mana = 4 stat points and an effect
not that far off from 2-drops

>>159518061
This one is the scariest one yet
Might as well be "Draw a card, and then discard it," because the only reason you would play this is to get rid of it, but then it just gives you another unplayable card. So there is no good reason to play this one, even if it is just to get rid of it

>check new legendaries on hearthpwn
>absolute garbo except for druid

nice, looks they're keeping up the good -> bad -> good cycle on the legendaries. So mage should get some broken shit

>>159518150
>tfw started getting mage specific cards

ive always wanted to play freeze
since reck missed lethal at blizzcon 2bh

>>159517860

It really wasn't but I'm happy some people worried it was a real card.

>>159518140
It could give you Zerus, a Giant, or some other card that can discount its mana cost.

what control actually needs is some other control than removal control

we could have healing control, discard control, management control (like overload 2 mana crystals or destroy 2 mana crystals), debuff control (like cheaper other minions get -2/-0 or more expensibe -2/-2) and that's only active control not touching reactive control like counterspells

yet we have nothing and more stupid mechanics like play other classes lmao duuude

>>159517860
Certainly not, I'm amazed that iconic Warcraft character is wasted on bad card.

>Need to play 10 pirates
>make rogue deck
>Never, ever attack enemy face
>he is still too retarded to understand I'm doing the quest and goes for the kill

Fucking retards, it's casual, the win is yours, just let me play some pirates ffs

Why is rank 16 the worst possible rank with the most failed tryhards in it?

>>159518292

I made it silly.

>I'm actually Ben AMA

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>All these no name legendaries
Did they just run out of Warcraft characters or something?

>>159517987
Overpower is a warrior skill, though.

>>159518383
It's better than giving good characters Illidan's treatment

>>159518342
>Play 15 overload minions
>Filter overload
>Add everything that isn't that shirty 1 drop.
>Win 3 games including a golden fedora warrior without trying.

It's almost like shaman is OP.

>>159518342
those people that bm you when you're playing for enrage quests vs classic midsham like they are achieving something are the worst

>>159518383
HAHAHAH

MURLOC NINJA

HAHAHAH

WE HAVE THIS THING CALLED THE "MURLOC TEST" FOR NEW CARDS

>>159518273
Interacting with your opponents resources isn't fun if it's too oppressive.

Can you imagine if Anduin had a card that allowed him to draw cards off of your deck? I'm not talking Thoughtsteal, I mean you never get to draw those cards anymore.

>>159510608
I never knew why people liked this meme. So many of the wordplays are super weak and the joke goes on for too long. Smells like forced meme to me.

>Rogue's thing is now burgling as many cards as humanly possible in hopes of getting healing or AoE because blizz won't give them any
They need to burgle way more than what they can right now if that's supposed to be how the class works
or give them cards that burgle specific things
Tupac Shakru should have had the ability to chose a type of card to burgle when attacking

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>>159518730
The variance on this thing is catastrophically high and it doesn't even have a legendary name. It's bad.

THIS is how you make a bad legendary.

>>159518613
That was the original Thoughtsteal.

So the druid legendary is pretty much 0 mana 7/7 right? Or am i missing something

>>159518895
>They need to burgle way more than what they can right now if that's supposed to be how the class works
Don't worry you've got FOUR different cards that steal cards and don't do anything but steal cards.

One of them's BOUND to have a story for your friends!

>>159519017
Aviana memes

>Gook-Fu Master
>GOOK

How can nobody call out how racist Blizzard is?

>>159518940
>>159518730
This is exactly what we need in hearthstone. Now we can make the game winning coin flip on t1 instead of having to wait until later in the game.
>not wanting to get a 1/1 ragnaros or tyrion on t1

>>159519067
Isn't it grook?

I don't understand why rogues complain about the Burgle archetype. Sure it's not good yet but Discolock and Totem Shaman needed several expansions too. It's a fun and challenging archetype which concentrates on resource management. In fact I played it today and beat another Burgle rogue.

>>159519017
Literally a worse arcane giant
>inb4 they get a 'design space' nerf

>>159519067
Half of Team5 are gooks so they can use racial slur :^)

>>159519107

>The disguise is not even subtle

>>159518613
>Can you imagine if Anduin had a card that allowed him to draw cards off of your deck?
That would be absolutely objectively fine.
>waaaah he might screw up my combo
Yeah, get hated on. Some cards are better against certain matchups.

>>159519017
WE WUZ KUNZ AND SHIET

>>159518273
Hallazeal goes down that road at least, one of my favorite legendaries overall
I also liked the way jousting gave us a way for control decks to really strike back at aggro in a fundamental way, eg healing wave
There's also the old wall-building tactic with earth ele and spirit/reincarnate/faceless/etc that pretty much acts as an alternate wincon.

It's a shame some of the best control tools are kind of abandoned in shaman without much offensive support.
even the justicar'd hero power is pretty fun to use, like a sort of swiss army knife for longer matchups

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>>159519017
Playing a 0 mana 7/7 on turn 10? That's fucking unprecedented!

>>159518273

>Aggro is almost completely kill
>Hunter going full midrange
>Even the most OP shaman going midrange too

Yeah let's make more control cards until nobody can deal with control decks.

>>159519017
Well it's also potentially a 7/7 that heals you for 10 if you want.

Also it's a 7/7 gain 9 free mana if played with Aviana.

In simple terms it's an excellent card that will definitely be in many Druid decks.

>>159519121
>It's a fun and challenging archetype which concentrates on resource management.
It's an RNGfest that concentrates on how good your RNG is.

There is only two ways to interact with your Burgle mechanic, you 1) get cards and then you have to decide whether or not to 2) drop Peddlar before you play them. That's it. That's all you do. And if you get bad cards? Ha ha you should have played better OH WAIT YOUR CHOICES MATTER LESS AND LESS WITH EACH BURGLE CARD YOU PUT IN YOUR DECK BECAUSE ALL YOU ARE DOING IS HOPING TO GET A GOOD CARD OUT OF NOTHING.

I mean for fuck's sake. There's no win condition.

>the Nrigger Thief
what the fuck,blizzard?

>>159519248
Koon is much more flexible that Arcane Giant.

Both in terms of also providing a 10 heal if you need it or being playable outside of spell based decks.

You don't need to design a deck around koon. He can be slotted in anywhere and still be a great card.

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>>159519248

Which one is chicken which one is egg?

>>159518613
What if Anduin had a card that allowed him to force you to play one card on his turn? He'd get to choose the effects but you pay the mana cost on your next turn (and overload if you don't have enough mana).

>>159519327

Warcraft has had arcane giants for a decade.

Get rekt shadownigger.

What control needs is more cards like Kun.

High mana cost minions and spells that refund part of their mana cost. Aggro decks can run them but they'll let control decks use more mana in later turns, so they actually can outvalue aggro (instead of needing to wipe the board twice in a row 99% of the time).

Is anyone able to do the math on how much dust will it cost to get all the 132 cards? I guess what I'm asking is if we know the number of cards sorted by rarity?

>>159519453

>What control needs is more value
>When control classes are centered around value cards

Yeah totally new insight right there anon.

>>159519327
Why is shadowverse art so bad? Who okayed this?

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>>159519531
shhh

>>159519481
4 neutral legendaries revealed so far, plus assumed one per class and one per faction for at least 16 legendaries if no more neutral ones are released, if that helps.

>>159519531

Different artists. Some are good some are bad. The art variances of SV is almost comparable with HS RNG card variances.

>>159519017
>>159519264
>>159519312
the problem is that it's yet another card you can't play until 10 mana
so yet another way to fuck yourself in the ass by drawing it on turn 1
druid decks are already the most susceptible to concede hands and kun the kang will make that even worse
if you put aviana in with him you might as well add astral communion and make it official

>>159519453
wait, what?
the only aggro deck that can actually compete for value at that point in the game is dragon warrior, and that's just because the entire archetype is a design mistake.

>>159519660

Nah, I wanted the actual number of dust cost but I guess it's too early for that. Thanks anyways.

>>159519773

>Waaa control can't play on curve

Do you really want more curve cards and turning every deck into midrange decks that plays on curve?

>>159519453
>>159519525
>>159519773
Wait, sorry, I didn't mean value, I meant tempo.

Like right now control decks clear the board and ends their turn, then the aggro deck re-floods forcing the control deck to clear and end their turn again.

Instead they need a way to clear the board and play some beef minion(s) at the same time, so they're not constantly behind.

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>>159519531
>>159519765
You should be like Duelyst and just stick to one style for all the card art.

>tfw Azure Herald's delicious brown thighs

Just don't look at the General art don't look at DON'T LOOK AT THEM THEY'RE NOT RELEVANT DON'T LOOK

>>159519939
>sticking to one art syle
looser

P R I E S T
R
I
E
S
T

>>159519840
37 common
>1480 dust
37 rare
>3700 dust
28 epic
>11200 dust
19 legendary
>30400 dust

46780 total dust

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>>159519934

>Control already winning the value games
>Want them to win the tempo game too
>So that control decks is favoured against all other types of deck

You won't stop until control have 100% winrate will you? Even then I don't think you will stop if there are still casuals play decks other than control.

>>159520039

How did you get those numbers of cards? It says on hpwn that it's 132 and your total is 121 even though it might be from the "side effect" cards

>>159519994
The only thing loose here is the consistency of visual quality of your anime and orc games.

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Can't escape the cancer in the Arena either.

>>159520137
Hmmm, you're right. I was going by the
>reddit
pre-release chart but that doesn't add up.

>>159520089
Uh, what? No one is talking about making control "win the tempo game". All I'm saying is that current board clears / removal are too anti-tempo so you're constantly behind when you play as a control deck.

It's why Control Warrior is the only viable control deck right now - they have:

- 0 mana removal (weapon from previous turn)
- 1 mana removal (shield slam)
- 2 mana removal (execute)
- minion + removal in one card (ravaging ghoul)

Other classes need options like these (particularly cards like shield slam that can't be played in normal tempo decks but provide good situational tempo for control decks).

>>159519934

Aggro decks have shit winrates right now. The reason control are not doing well because midrange decks are OP as fuck. Control beats aggro, aggro beats midrange and midrange beats control. If you really want control to work you should think of a way to supress midrange deck.

>>159520247

It might be right if the remaining 10 are extra cards like spare parts that don't really count for your collection but they are counting towards the 132 total.

>>159520313
I highly doubt that, also I accidentally added an extra of each rarity. I'm too tired to try and figure this out.

>>159520296

> No one is talking about making control "win the tempo game"
>"Wait, sorry, I didn't mean value, I meant tempo."
>The next post explains how OP it is to have both value and tempo on your side

Also you like to assume that the decks that beats control is aggro when in fact they are midrange. Tell me which aggro deck is working right now?

How many matches at blizzcon were decided by coinflip?

>>159520475
All.

>>159520475
Literally all of them.

>>159520475

Our lives are already decided by coin flips.

>>159520519
Settle down, Harvey.

>>159520519

Your mother is a coinflip

>>159520447

>Tell me which aggro deck is working right now?

None. Aggro paladin is shit and face hunter is dead for such a long time already. People like to pretend tempo mage and zoolock as aggro deck when in fact they are, by definition, tempo deck that fights for board control. Aggro give no two shits about your board. On and by the way, burn mage is shit since beta.

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>>159520519

>tfw coinflipped into an ugly male instead of a qt japanese anime schoolgirl

>>159520447
There's a difference between "the tempo game" and improving the tempo of removal, anon.

And again, this isn't about aggro. It's about why Control Warrior works while other decks don't. Even now with all the midrange shamans CW is doing fine. Why? Because of all the tempo removal I listed before. When you can Ironforge -> Shield Slam and Azure Drake on 6 it lets you actually fight back on the board instead of hoping you have enough removal in hand before the Shaman runs out of cards.

People were asking what Control needs - that's all I was answering. I wasn't trying to say CW needs a buff to beat all the mostly non-existent aggroshitters currently.

>>159520475
Pavel was pretty consistently favored by the coinflip. His luck pulled through every single time, it was actually fucking amazing.

>>159510679
>gorgeous art
haHAA

>>159519858
i'm not complaining about it, just saying he's an astral druid card
it's totally fine, astral is fun and druid doesn't deserve any more good leggos after fandral
if hunter gets another joke, then i'll complain

>>159519934
that's hard to do in a way that limits the card to control decks
TFB and arcane giant were designed for exactly that role
but look at them now
midrange shaman and malydruid just coopted them as free big drops

>>159520310
anon, have you been smoking crack?
control beats midrange as well as always
classic control is only playable right now because a midrange deck is 20% of the ladder
go play a control shaman deck for example
the reason the archetype is unplayable is not because of midrange or aggro
midrange matchups are 50% at worst
it's unplayable because of combo decks, which you might as well concede to
freeze, malyrogue, etc are all guaranteed losses

>>159520519
You were a coinflip.

>>159520447
>>159520654
Currently successful aggro decks:
>dragon warrior
>disco zoo
>tempo mage
you can call them what you want, anon.

>>159520809
>not face hunter
??

>>159520671

Who would have thought that in a game about tempo and value, a deck with both tempo and value is pretty good? Genius aren't you?

If control gets more cards that have both tempo and value, that would break the meta so hard that Blizzard would rip their skin. If you add cards with high tempo instead they would be balance but now it is not a control deck, it will become a midrange deck.

>>159520809
>dragon warrior
no
looses vs any board deck

you forgot face secret hunter, the one with Jenkins and uth

>>159520809

>Completely disregard my post about how they are not aggro

Is tempo such a hard concept for you to grasp?

>>159520921

Most of the secret hunter I met are midrange with highmane and shit. Is there a good aggro list out there?

>>159520876
Hey no need to be so mean. I'm just posting my ideas.

I thought it'd be nice to play something other than Control Warrior for a change, like Control Mage or whatever (I know there's Reno but it's not that great). I don't think it'd break the meta just to have more options than Warrior and (sometimes) Priest when you want to play a long slow game.

>>159521006
>No true scotsman fallacy

If the deck is based on aggressively attacking face, it's an aggro deck.

The only one this doesn't apply to is Tempo Mage, which is more of a combo deck based around burst.

Discard Zoo is definitely an aggro deck though.

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>>159520661
>tfw you could had been successful
>tfw you could had been liked
>tfw you could had found love

>>159521103
That's fucking stupid.

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>"You gotta see me dance!"

I won't be surprise if in the next expansion Blizzard would add a card that costs 16 which will force your opponent to skip a turn. Its cost will go down for each spell you played this game like the Arcane giant.

>>159521126

>If the deck is based on aggressively attacking face, it's an aggro deck.

Yeah, that is true.

>Tempo Mage
>a combo deck based around burst.

Kek.

>Discard Zoo is definitely an aggro deck though.

Do you actually believe that or do you not noticed that zoo always trade whenever possible?

Why is Paladin so expensive class? There's no point playing him if you don't own Tirion and Ragnaros the Lightlord. I just unpacked the Lightlord but I don't own Tirion so I'm wondering if I should just dust it because Paladin is stupid.

>>159521198
>Skip your opponent's turn if you played 6 spells

Dude, that's fucking broken as fuck. In a spell based deck it's literally "Win the game" because you'll be able to get it out for like 4-0 mana and spend 16-20 mana and two rounds of attacking without your opponent being able to do anything.

Don't be dumb anon. An effect like that will never be in Hearthstone due to the fact that you can't interrupt the opponent's plays.

>>159521350

other classes which they had something on par with tirion

>>159521418

But it's not fun. Both legendaries are just automatically included in every deck and if you don't own them you shouldn't even play the class.

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>>159521367
>>159521198
Its pretty gud if done right

>>159521350
>Paladin is stupid

Fuck you anon. Paladin is the most noble and honorable of classes.

>>159520809
>>159520863
forgot face hunter, that too.
all of those are among the absolute best decks in the game.
There's also viable but not top-tier aggro, like pirate warrior, face mage, maybe beast druid, etc.

>>159520921
Dragon warrior is working right now, i don't give a fuck what tempostorm.com or hearthpwn or whatever says.
Multiple people brought it to the top 8 over other warrior decks.
People called zoo dead too, until people hit #1 legend with it repeatedly on stream.

>>159521103
that's the most retarded OC I've ever seen

>>159521460
>charge into battle and die for the lightbulb in the ceiling

lmao. At least priestcucks can serve the shadow if they want to.

@159521103
>two players put this card in their deck

>>159521006
Use whatever personal naming system or euphemisms you prefer.
Call them "control" if you want.
At the end of the day, these are all aggressive decks based on dealing massive face damage in the early game and closing with burst in the midgame.
They do it in very different ways, but the point is that they all do it. That's how they win, and it governs how they interact with other decks.

>>159521126
most variants of tempo mage are full-fledged aggro decks, the intended game plan is extremely aggressive. We saw turn 5 lethals in the world championship just now.
They act as midrange or combo decks only as a backup plan when they fail to draw the desired curve.

>>159521329
The fact that it trades to keep dominant board control doesn't mean it's not aggro. It's an aggressive deck that's most comfortable in the early game.
Unlike older zoos it has a lot more synergy and combo potential, but it still focuses on beating down the opponent quickly with blitzkrieg tactics.

>>159521457

>Pretty gud

It is the only cancerous card in the entire SV.

>That class has Arcane Giant
>All decks can have 3 copies of the same card
>Heroes has 20 hp only
>Put down just one 0 mana 7/7 on board
>Make your opponent skip 3 turns
>7+7+7 = 21 OTK

That is the only mistake in card design by SV team.

>>159521608
They play at the same time.

>>159521350
i'm in the same position anon
i can't bring myself to dust lightlord though, im keeping him and hoping paladin gets an affordable archetype