/civ4xg/ - Civilization, Stellaris, Endless and 4X Games General

is there no steam workshop downloader of any kind

I have been fond of the new OP.

I am fond of new threads.

>>159487993
>>159488037
Guys, this meme is getting stale.

>>159487993
>>159488037
this shit is getting old

I am fond of stale memes.

>It's a "your ally parks his whole army in your region and you can't do anything about it" episode

Fucking hell.

I am fond of the only use the great library is the writing slots

>>159488207
>It's a "Your ally parks one unit in the exact spot you're trying to build something and you can't do anything about it." episode

>>159488207
>>159488563

>It's a "AI decides to give all his money and income for one piece of luxury because the AI is fucking bonkers" episode

I'll wait for the patch. 30 hours was enough with this game.

For all you Stellaris players, how do I into Wormholes? How many generators should I be placing? How spread out? I have all the upgrades for them.

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i knew it is too good to be free

>>159489443

I tend to put one in any system I've colonized at a minimum. I add one to really busy systems that see a lot of traffic. Others are used to expand my range, so they go at the edge of my space. If any of those edge systems are staging points for an invasion I'm planning, I'll put three or four in; they really help make sure I can keep my fleets, armies, and reinforcements moving around well.

Be aware you can build them in hostile systems when at war so you can use that to jump even further in.

Any wormhole in a system likely to be attacked should have an FTL Snare equipped station built in the system, preferably as far from the wormhole station as possible. The station isn't likely to stop fleets but should give you a chance to respond with your own forces.

>>159488693
>It's a "every AI calls you a warmonger for 3000 years because you fought in a single war before diplomacy was a thing" episode

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r8 my Romans in spess lads

Just got done with a random match-up online. Quit after I launched my first war onto my neighbor. I had Infantry, he had pikemen. No one else had anything better than a pikeman. Either I am better than I think or people online are shit.

>watching filthy's stream
>gorgo, japan and england are in the game
>all of them look identical colour-wise

>>159490201
>it's a "china is mad i built a wonder before him so he declares war on me turn 30 and the rest of everyone considers me a warmonger for the rest of the game" episode

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>Playing Stellaris
>Fanatic Xenophobe and militarist
>Eradicating the universe of xeno scum
>A single lone planet pops up
>Going to bring that thing down with the force of a thousand suns
>tfw I see this as their answer to my war declaration
Oh god, what have I become.

I don't know even know if the "all Civ 6 needs is balance tweaks" meme is accurate anymore.
Some aspects of the game seem so wonky. Like, fuck, culture does nothing outside of winning cultural victories, now that ideological pressure is gone.

>>159491980
>culture does nothing outside of winning cultural victories
>there's a whole fucking tech tree driven by culture

Are you fucking thick?

>>159491876
I've played stellaris enough to the point where I basically recognize every random alien and empire name

this is annoying.

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>>159491876
It's too late, Anon. You have gone too far to stop what you've begun.

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nth for how did this happen

>>159492090
Focusing on it has very, very little impact on your success, much like the tech tree this time around.
And great artist/writer/musician contribute to nothing else than a cultural victory.

>>159491876
you are doing it for the greater good anon, dont forget that

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>getting comfy in my empire just researching and chill
>suddenly fanatical purifiers declare war on me
>defend myself and protect my galaxy by wiping them out
>somehow I'M the bad guy

What the fuck are roads for in Civ6? They seem to be useless, my units can still only move two tiles.

>>159492296
>Focusing on it has very, very little impact on your success, much like the tech tree this time around
Stop it with your memes. Culture tree offers plenty of choices that can help you by a lot.

>Civ 5
>15 fucking cities
>electricity
>no aluminum anywhere
why is resource placement so shit in civ 5 and 6

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>>159491876
That alien type does not match that response. Nevertheless, as someone who plays most games as an enslaver and purger of all things alien, this melted my cold, black heart. Fuck.

>>159492412
Even in defense of your empire, you still killed which is bad in any book.

scouts should not have the ability to pillage shit

>>159492731
More culture output = less time to unlock the eurekas = wasted culture
Just make more hammers. No point in trying to race ahead in culture.

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>>159491876
Well, at least they didn't just say hello.

Does Civ6 have no option to make maps have more/less mountains or am I blind? Really sad 'cause don't see it.

>>159492770
In my last five games I had no iron on my continent.

>>159492296
You're shit if you don't think governmental policies aren't critical for success.

>>159493095
That right there is the acceptance of death.

>been wondering why I didn't get the Meiji Restoration achievement even after having all 7 districts built
>turns out you need to build the last district in the center for it to register
Goddamit

>>159493147
younger earth option

>>159493263
that is retarded

>>159493229
At this point his either dumb or just trying to troll.

>>159493147
World Age

New = More mountains
Old = Less mountains

>>159493229
Unlocking them a little bit faster does little for you.
This is nothing like Civ 5 tech.

does adderall actually work

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>>159493298
>>159493359
I really am blind. Thanks for the help!

>>159493504
yes

Anyone playing CIV 6 with a 2500k / GTX 580 or something equivalent to that? Is it playable?

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How did they fuck up Barbarians so fucking bad?!
I just lost HALF my fucking army because I rushed to Renaissance to unlock ocean travel because every single civ in my game spawned on the same tightly packed continent, which only took up half of the world map.

A few turns after entering the Renaissance, barb camps start shitting out swordsmen and crossbows and other shit while everyone in my game, myself included, is still on spearmen and archers.

In the span of 5 turns, 4 fucking swordsmen and a crossbowman came at my smallest city from one barb camp. They killed a quarter of my army, which I sent there for defense when I saw them coming.

I sent another quarter of my army across the ocean with a settler to gain a foothold on the wild, uncharted, unpopulated continent there, and lost half of THOSE units to barbarian caravels and frigates.

But I got that city settled and spent my entire treasury getting a water wheel, granary, and archer up while construction on city walls began. Only for literally 8 fucking barbarians to fly in from all directions, like they all heard the horn of gondor blowing, and obliterated my fucking city in a few turns.

Who the FUCK designed this shitty fucking mechanic? You can't play with barbarians on without treating them like their own fucking civ capable of shitting units out whenever they want.

>>159493767
how do I get some

>>159494075
>why do barbarians have to be a threat?
git gud.

>>159492770
>want to go to war
>no iron on continent
>whelp guess I'll wait for musketmen
>no nitre on continent
>whelp guess I'll wait for infantry

Anyone interesting in a Diety lets play of the game? Or small videos where I try to explain bits of the game? Single player focused as I'm not big on the multiplayer aspect.

>>159494075
Don't blame the devs for you being a careless fuckup.

>>159494314
No.

>>159494234
ask your gp

>>159494075
Only done 4 runs so far and this never happens to me. They always come one or two at a time. Maybe difficulty changes it? Playing on king.

>>159494314
Why ask us? Just make them man. I might watch them. Just try not to shill them here or you might get trolled out of the internet.

Remember that this place was born from the ashes of /gsg/, terrible things could be awakened.

>>159494253
On my continent: Montezuma, Harold, Gookface, and Teddy.
And the Barbarians were a bigger threat than all of them combined, and scouts showed they were losing substantial units to barbarians as well.

Don't you fucking dare try to excuse this shitty game design. They make barbarians spawn from nothing, spawn in groups of 3-5, spawn when a unit gets too close, spawn en masse when an era changes, and scales them based not on their targets, but by the era one player is in.

It's abso-fucking-lutely FUCKED UP that a few turns after one civ unlocks crossbowmen, barbarians can be fielding more crossbowmen than all of the civs in the game combined.

You cannot excuse that with your shitty fucking memes you inbred twat.

>>159494316
CARELESS? You subhuman filth. Tell me how an escort of EIGHT FUCKING UNITS, A QUARTER OF MY ARMY, is carelessness.

WHO DECIDED THAT RELIGIOUS UNITS SHOULD OCCUPY THE SAME SPACE AS MILITARY UNITS

WHO?????

>>159494707
Sid did

>>159494707
>IT WAS ME, BARRY!

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>>159494638
>/gsg/'s skeletons in the closet merit the phrase "AN ANCIENT EVIL HAS AWOKEN"

oh shit

>>159494707
just kill them

>>159494498
Solid stuff.

>>159494638
Hah. Just wasn't sure if the community of people making videos was large enough as is. No reason to shill this shit. Don't feel like pissing off the ancient evil

>>159492720
Early game they make all terrain act as flatland. So no movement penalty through forests, rainforest, hills, and rivers.

>>159494638
>>159494823
>>159494941

what is /gsg/ infamous for?

I'm new to this general

>>159494515
will he just give them to me if I ask

I mean I'm 21 goddamn years old, it's not like I'm a young teenager with ADHD anymore

>>159494997
Mostly autism and massive quantities of shitposts

>>159494997
We must never speak of old evil.

>>159494648
Obviously you didn't fuking scout properly. I've never once had problems. You're just mad because you're bad.

>>159495247
Donut maps best maps.

>>159495154
>21 goddamn years old
shut the fuck up you young faggot. And just gp shop around then

Do you guys prefer to play Civ 6 on Standard or Online speed? I mean Single Player, by the way.

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POST RECOMMENDED CIV 6 MODS OR TWEAKS THAT YOU'VE FOUND
Try that they're not ebin "let's make the game even easier" tweaks, but hey, if you must, go for it too.

It's about time we start adding stuff to that section of the OP, it's already been a while since release.

>>159495165
>>159494638
what the fuck are you niggers talking about? /gsg/ still exists and will continue existing after the civ hype falls again

>>159495536
No workshop yet tho

>>159495336
Personally prefer Standard. The way science is paced in this game, I'll most likely go up to epic soon. Science is hella fast, but production is the exact opposite.

>>159495579
That is not dead which can eternal lie, And with strange aeons even death may die

Warp Drive III or Jump Drive, guys?

>>159495676
What's your fleet strength? Naval Capacity? Any Fallen Empires around? How much lube do you have?

>>159495617
>Implying Steam Workshop is the sole source of mods
Get a load of this guy

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>>159494648
kek

rage moar, pubbie

>>159495656
do you imply that the raging autists over at /gsg/ have anything remotely in common with cthulhu or lovecraft again

>>159495896
that chick is so EPIC and hip to internet culture

>>159496120
I wish she was hip to my dick if you know what I meme

>>159494648
The tech on the barbs is definitely done in a stupid way. That being said, I play on immortal and I've never been fucked up that bad by barbs. It's not unfair for the game to punish you for getting renaissance era ships instead of renaissance era ground units. You took a risk and it didn't work out for you, and it's definitely a risk you can avoid in the future, and one that I would personally never take unless I had vision of my whole continent so barb camps couldn't spawn.

>>159496120
>0/10 would not bang
t. neckbear

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>>159494648
You're obviously not good enough to play with barbarians on, so turn them off, you shitty you.

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>>159494648

>>159495748
i was wondering if the empire that researches the dangerous jump drive tech affects the spawn position of the unbidden
if i research it first and i am the reason for them to show up are they 100% going to spawn within my territories ?
at the moment i always wait on researching that because i am scared they will pop up in the centre of my shit

>2 weeks
>No patch
Sure is fun not being able to play multiplayer

What Endless Legend DLC is worth getting?

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>>159496323
that's badass dude

>>159496692
its coming soon

>>159496721
Legacy of The Uninstall

>>159496454
I'd legit like to see some behind the scenes footage of Sean recording his lines. Maybe being utterly confused or amused by some of them. Or just trying to figure out the best way to say them

>>159495748
I already have it researched, the Unbidden are on the other side of the galaxy eating a dick-ass Fallen Empire, and I see no reason why I shouldn't use the Jump Drives if they're better than the Warp Drive IIIs that I have already.

Could you weigh in on the pros and cons?

>>159494021

p-pls respng.

>>159496960
Just pirate it and find out

Any way to see when your city is gonna expand its borders? Or my war weariness penalty or whatever the fuck

>>159496692
What, for civ? MP is 100% working, dude, I played 6 hours just today.

>>159492412
You don't have to be bad to be threatening, just powerful.

What music do you guys listen to while you play?
Mostly, I listen to 90's-Early 00's R&B or Jazz.

Sometimes I get REALLY crazy and listen to a podcast

How do you stop growth in Civ6? My capital doesn't have enough amenities to support 13+ and I've added all entertainment complex shit so far.

>>159497582
>Sometimes I get REALLY crazy and listen to a podcast
what an absolute madman!

>>159497582
Depends on what is happening in the game at the time. Currently listening to The End (doors) because of a nuclear apocalypse

>>159497690
Listening to this right now

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A1kzG9Ld1kI

>>159497582
Usually just have NBA games playing in the background.

>>159497682
take away food

>>159495209
What pleb difficulty do you play on? Have you ever played in the way I described? Grow a fuckin brain.

>>159495536
No Barbs.

Huge maps + fewer civs and tiny maps + more civs for flavor.

>>159495896
>>159496454
>>159496379
>hurr i can't articulate a real reply so ill just meem reel hard that'll surely prove im right

>>159496286
It IS fucking unfair. It makes no goddamn sense for ONE player hitting Renaissance to trigger barbs to spawn a small army of units higher on the tech tree than all the civs in the world.

It's fucking blatant that they just have barbs spawn units 1 era behind the current leading era, no matter how nonsensical it is.

And EVERYONE has experienced the teleporting barbs popping up next to their units with no warnings, or the rush of barb units the very turn after you walk a unit too close to a barb camp to escape them.
eg: You send 1 warrior + archer to kill a barb spearman guarding a camp alone, and the very turn you get your warrior to the camp, it spawns 2 horsemen and an archer, who proceed to slaughter your two units.

THAT HAPPENS EVERY SINGLE FUCKING GAME FOR ME. You HAVE to send 4 units every damn time. Which is why I had 8 units escorting my settlers and 8 units defending my small border city.

>>159497582
porn on my other screen but it's muted and I listen to the comfy tunes of whatever game I'm playing

>>159498028
Why do you have porn in your other screen anon
Do you just enjoy having it as a background sight as you're getting other stuff done? I've never heard of anyone doing that

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>>159490454
>Senate-controlled Roman Republic.
>Collective.
Not exactly, but vanilla ethics are too simplistic to properly represent them.

This would be my take on them, using Extended Traits and Ethics&Government Rebuilt plus other mods, including Cybrxkhan's Assortment of Namelists for Stellaris for them Space Roman Name Lists.

>>159498195
Really? Not that guy but back when I took classes, knew a lot of guys who would do that.

>>159497956
>BAAAAW GAME IS TOO HARD

maybe try playing on chieftain kiddo

>>159498290
Oh, also, I'd probably choose Hyperlanes, too.

Because muh roman roads.

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Anyone else been messing with Civ VI mods?

I'm trying a game with AI+, which is supposed to improve the AI's city placement and unit movement, among other things. It's definitely made the game harder, and the AI will now gang war you if you fall behind in military score. Not sure how I feel about that.

>>159498735
Nice, does it also help with diplomacy? Getting tired of everyone acting like a little kid.

>>159498816

>does it also help with diplomacy?

Not that I've noticed, but I'm only 100 turns in. Here's the mod: http://forums.civfanatics.com/threads/ai.603494/

>you get writers super early
>writers produce 2 works of writing
>amphitheaters have only 1 writing slot
>only like 2 wonders have writing slots
epic

>>159498932
Not the first anon, but any time I see AI mods for any games it turns into this bizarre house of cards where the smallest tweaks fix one element of AI, but break others. Have you noticed anything glaring in that regard?

>>159499328

The gang wars are pretty startling. I once had three civs declare war on the same turn, two of them by surprise.

>>159499457
>I once had three civs declare war on the same turn, two of them by surpris
Sounds like a normal play desu

>>159499612

It was pretty surprising to me, especially when you consider this was on Prince.

>>159498195
>Do you just enjoy having it as a background sight
yep this pretty much, generally not hardcore stuff. Good to watch as I'm waiting for something to build or AI turns to complete or whatever

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Watcha doin there Sumeria

>integrate vassal
>has a bunch of shitty fleets and extra construction and science ships that I dont need
>cant disband any of them
wat do

>>159500175
war

>>159500139
Just passing through

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Which goverment & ethos would have the perfect Papal state empire

Does Civ 6 have the option to demand an AI declare war on you during your turn like they could if you had too many units near their border?
I heard there were different declarations of war so something like that should be in, right?

>>159500483
yeah just sending them into the front now to get wiped out

>>159500139
>had the same thing happen to me with Brazil and open borders
>prepare my anus and moved my units
>100+ turns
>his units haven't moved at all
Fuck you too, Gilgbitch. Had to treat that young city as a backwater village because I couldn't work on the tiles.

>>159500984
>Gilgbitch
So sorry Pedro, I didn't forget your name.

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what the hell. Everyone just opened their borders to me. What's going on?

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This is after I took out a barb camp with my warrior. What the fuck is this shit firaxis?

>>159501246
did a crisis start ?
are you a crisis tier empire and are they all just sucking your dick ?

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Why is Stellaris so fun?

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they are fanatic xenophobes
this is going to be "fun"

>turn 23 standard speed
>9 barbarian horsemen and 4 horse archers at my borders
What

>Scythia

sure is fun having 10 horseman attacking you turn 40, along with them being able to double there hammers by selling them with the +100% production civic

has there ever been a more unbalanced civ in any game at any point?

>>159502956
>watch numbers become bigger numbers for 4 hours
>Then watch big numbers become zimbabwe numbers
>fun
no

>>159502712
yeah unbidden started soon after. Can't fucking get to the unbidden and they are chewing through other empire. I'm militarist/collectivist/materialist so pretty much gone solo this entire game and all other empire except FE are inferior to me
>tfw gonna get fucked up by unbidden when they get to me

>>159503452
Different strokes for different folks, I guess. I've been enjoying myself far more than I have with Civ 6.

Although I do think it could use some variety of gameplay between the factions, but it's already pretty fun for me

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>>159491876
PURGE THEM ALL
NO SURVIVORS

>>159491876
>Xenophile and peaceful
>New to the galactic stage, they barely learned how to fly. The space equivalent of an innocent, wondrous toddler.
>You go and literally stomp them with your foot

You monster.

So Germany, Scythia, and Japan are some of the strongest civs in the game right?

Teddy seems useful for a cultural victory, but I already did that as china. I am trying to decide to do for a faith victory. I was thinking Japan but I played them quite a lot already. Is Trajan any good? Every game I see him leading in the religious victory category.

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>>159503841
Purge all the Evil, son

>>159504023
but they're not evil, they're peaceful and xenophilic

>>159504019
Replace Japan with Sumeria or Aztecs. Shit that saves on hammers is the bees knees right now.

>>159504113
If they ain't Human, they're the enemy 99.9% of the time
If they aren't uniquely useful, they should be removed

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Yeeeaaah

Yeeeaaah

>>159504283
>if they ain't (insert the race I happened to be born as because of genetic accident here), they're the enemy 99.9% of the time
>if they aren't uniquely useful, they should be removed

really makes you think huh

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>>159504393
>i should not want to maximise resources for my people
If i was an alien i'd do the exact same

Altruism is for dead and the weak

>>159504283
But what about the 0.1%, anon?

>>159504525
Shouldn't have been born as Xenos

>>159504492
Because you'd also be a racist alien anon, no matter what species you're born as

>>159491876
Literally this
https://youtu.be/pjJOu-VyDY8?t=3m41s

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>>159504640
>racist
What a cute meme word

>>159504728
And you're a very cute meme, then

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>>159504759

r8 my mod idea.

>if a barbarian encampment is not cleared within X turns, it becomes a barbarian stronghold
>it behaves like a militaristic city state that is at war with every civ
>cannot produce settlers or builders, but can use stolen builders to improve its tiles
>can build walls and fire on nearby units

>>159504019
Scythia > Gigglemesh > Freddy

>>159504997
Interesting? To some, yes. Balanced? Not even close.

>>159504997
>making barbarians stronger

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>>159491876
>tfw this is response I got when I declared war on some stupid bugs

>>159505287
>>159505339

>city states do not spawn at the beginning of the game
>instead, they evolve out of tribal villages and uncleared barbarian encampments
>landing on a tribal village doesn't give you an immediate bonus, but gives you the 'first met' envoy with them once they become a city state

>>159504997
>Cannot produce settlers

Doesn't matter when barbs can literally spawn on any tile covered by fog of war. Then they can generate any unit that is unlocked by another civ. Then their camps get stronger just because a civ doesn't kill them in X turns? That is broken as fuck.

>>159495209
Not him but the camps are not only rampant, but they re spawn constantly, and in many cases actually have MORE advanced tech than the civs.

Barbarian societies shouldn't be lasting all game, and they sure as fuck shouldn't have guns and bazookas.

>>159487914
http://steamworkshop.download/
http://steamworkshopdownloader.com/

try these

What's the trick to making a good fleet in Stellaris? I keep getting raped even when my fleet has a higher combat power than the enemy's.

>>159505586
That would be a bitch to code. You'd essentially have a barbarian civilization with an infinitely spawning amount of cities that randomly turn into an independently owned civilization. This would make the game quite literally unplayable on anything short of a supercomputer. It'd be like trying to play a map with 50 different civilizations/city states.

>>159505927

You could make it so barbarian encampments stop spawning once a specified number of city states have been created. Isn't the number of city states determined by map size anyway? This would have the added benefit of preventing barbarians from spawning in later eras.

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SPARSE

>>159506664
also this game literally always puts me next to fucking desert and I have no idea why. Even when I am at the fucking north pole it gives me desert three tiles away.

>>159505927
>>159506039

Expanding on this:

Let's say a map allows for 16 city states. The game chooses 8 city state locations and places a tribal village there. When you land on that tile, a dialog box says something to the effect of "You have met some peaceful villagers. Your interaction seems to have inspired them towards greatness." 10 turns after that interaction, the village becomes a city state, and you are granted the 'first met' bonus. If another civ lands on the village within those 10 turns, they get a message like "You meet some villagers. They are friendly enough, but they're not as impressed as they were with the first great civilization they met." This would add some interesting variety to the game, as not every city state would spawn at the same time, leading to disparity between them.

The other 8 city state slots would be left open for potential barbarian encampments. Once an encampment spawns, it will become a militaristic city state within 10 turns if not cleared. Once 8 barbarian states are formed, no more barbarians will spawn.

So I was sent here.

Stellaris question.

Is there a way to set sector AI to change nothing in a planet and just upgrade when possible?

I wanna build the planets how I like em then give them to the sector but if they fuck it up anyway, there isn't a point.

>>159506729

What map type?

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>>159506729
>half desert half tundra
literally 90% of my starts are that. The other 10% are rainforest on every tile.
I'm liking peter more and more because then you only complain about the desert half.

>>159498290
Oh hey did that mod finally get updated to 1.3?

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>>159507086
>have the audacity to not build 3 warriors as my opener
>this happens
I fucking hate this game the more I play it. It's basically Dark Souls 2.

>>159507371
...Which one?

>>159507460
>not liking Dark Souls 2
Fucking plebeian.

>>159506982
Disallowing redevelopment seems to work for me.

>>159507460
See >>159502374
Your start is possible to survive. Having 5 horsemen on you at turn 15 is impossible regardless of build

Does Defender of the Faith apply to your own cities?
I'm founding a religion on the same turn Monty and the Kongo are declaring war on me so I'm wondering if I can take it for +10 combat strength in my city's borders, or if it only applies to friendly cities that aren't yours who follow your religion.

>>159508635
Nevermind. Just tested it. It applies to your own cities. These niggas bout to get crushed trying to double-team me.

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>slowly dominating map
>greece is at war with me (my own controlled character wanted to war with them early in the game for some reason)
>start taking over all of the greek empire while sumeria's main towns are still MIA because I cbf to explore that area
>sumeria's been hounding my ass all game and parking military right next to my towns despite my gifts

>turn 300-something, finally take greek main city of Sparta
"oh cool, cutscene!"
>mfw
???????????

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>>159509681
Clearly he knew what he was doing.

>>159509681
The fact that the screen doesn't even tell you how you lose is infuriating.

Why are berserkers so shit? They take forever to build and lose to knights.

>>159510065
infantry in general is shit garbage now that they changed the movement system and gave defensive terrain bonuses to cavalry

>>159510695
I don't understand there balancing. Calv get 2 more movement than melee units, ignore zone of control, get defensive terrain and fortification bonuses. The only way melee units could be said to be better is that they are cheaper, but they only get a 50% of card while calv get 100%. Firaxis literally doesn't know their own game

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Some of you guys are alright. Don't forget to build boats tomorrow.

>>159511139
>don't build boats

already done!

>>159507460
You should've kept one Warrior then rushed Horseback Riding + Military Tradition desu

Has there been any patches or should I keep playing my 1.0 version?

>>159507460
Hey, the Dark Souls 2 DLC was alright.

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>playing early game is fun as fuck
>late game is even more of a slog than Civ 5

just let us set trade routes and defensive spies so that they don't ask to renew and the end-game will go 50% faster

>>159511024
Fixing problems that weren't actually problems, no doubt.

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>AI forward settles me
>complains about me having units on their border when they're just garrisoned in the city

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What if a unit had supply. Like every scout, builder, etc had supply, and supply let them take action (not including movement)

Scouts would be able to get supply from forests, rivers, etc
Builders could return to the city to ressuply, then they could build more
Military units expend supply on long campaigns, sieging cities, fighting, but can be resupplied by support units. Surrounding them would cut off their supply though.

>faggot brings 4 apostles to convert me
>kill them all in theological combat
>other faggot starts complaining that his city got converted to my religion when the enemy apostles died

>>159511740
>see Teddy coming with a settler
>think to myself he wants that salt that's near my territory, I'm okay with that since I don't need it
>instead he settles in the 1 tile space between two of my cities where there's no resource at all and he can't even reach that salt
>all he did was stop the expansion of my cities because there's now a giant 1 tile sausage between my borders
Why is this allowed? Who though it was a good idea to let them make cities in a space bordered by 2 cities already?

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>Kongo's face when it declares on Rome the same turn Rome finishes researching Legions
This faggot thought he was tough shit rolling up on my capital with 10 mgabe mbaoa gafdg agf's. Next turn all the Warriors he's knocked down to 50% hp are Legions and he's suing for peace.

>>159511887
The AI doesn't try to win the game. It tries to stop you from doing so.

>>159494075
Barb camps spam units if you neglect to kill it, and let it linger for too long, or let a scout see your city and get back to the camp. Barbs are awesome in VI, one of the bright points of the game. You get a warning any time a camp spawns, so you just need to find where it is on your map and walk a guy over there. Ignore it and it becomes a problem.

>>159511991
wow nice warmongering, dick
DENOUNCED

>remove a zero from every % modifier policy card
fixed desu

>>159512273
I legit had alliances with every other civ. Then Monte and Negro declared on me together and I stonewalled them and then routed them and they made peace after I killed half their armies in retreat.

Then Toby denounces me, starts moving what few surviving units he has back towards my borders, and even tries to pass a settler by my capital to settle behind me.

Glad he came at me because I wasn't gonna declare.

>try to fight teddy
>he has shoshone's defensive combat boost
>he's producing a heavy chariot every single turn
>can't even archer swarm him since it's all wooded hills
i hate this game

>>159512672
Git gud.
Or play something else.
Or let Teddy come to you.

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>spain shows up with a massive army on my borders
>france relatively near our borders as well but generally peaceful
>try to trick spain into going to a joint war with me on france, he refuses
>add 100 gold to the deal, he happily agrees
>send one boat to france to shoot some walls, barter for peace as soon as I can
>50 turns later spain is still at war with france while I'm shitting out wonders

>>159512576
>+3% production toward builder.
brilliant

>>159511751
That would only work if the ai could cheat through that.

>scouting with ships
>nation asks me to remove "troops" form their border
>agree
>my ships are on the other side of the world 5 turns later
>"move troops agreement broken"

absolutely epic

Does Synth Leadership do anything interesting? Or is it still just a requisite to not get fucked by AI rebellion?

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Well this image explains a few things.

>>159514972
>the niggers get darker and darker the further away from the camera

Just started playing, what's the deal with appeal?

Which 4x games have fun necromancy?

AoW 3 isn't one of them.

>new game
>aim for max autism science empire
>militarist, fanatic materialist
>intelligent, conformists
>repugnant, solitary
>3 habitable planets near my starting planet
>nearest black hole is gargantua
>so far no other empires near
my research advantage will go through the roof
this galaxy is mine within the first 100 years

>>159514972
Certainly explains some of the quotes.

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>>159515089
>what's the deal with appeal?

>>159515092
Dominions 4, but it's not really a 4x.

>>159515168
Jerry pls.

>>159515089
It affects neighbourhoods and tourism you get from seaside resorts

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>>159515140
pic

ok, so whats the deal with Drones? those nigs riot every once in a while, and then calm down on the very next turn, I have no idea how to prevent it, I have built everything related to psych/drone reduction, I selected democracy, and yet they still riot

its not like SMAC has luxury resources or whatever

>>159515545
NOT ENOUGH PUNISHMENT SPHERE

Or overpopulation.

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Can someone explain this dumb slut's agenda to me? I am literally above her in military strength and she's giving me the business.

>>159515909
Her hidden agenda: she hates empires that are stronger then her.

>>159515675
but punishment sphere gives -50 tech rate, and a lot of my cities only have 5-7 pop doesn't seem like that much

another thing I cant wrap my head around are talents, I've built a human genome project and it supposedly gave me +1 talent everywhere, yet I the number of specialists is the same

>>159515938
If that's true then that is absolutely retarded.

how do i get above 700 points lads?

Alright guys, so which leaders would you like to see as DLC for the existing civs?

>inb4 edgelords chime in with Hitler

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>>159516081
Domination lad
>my 2nd game on King

In civ6, do I have to watch those hideous blue trade routes all the time, and the green light at my cities? How to turn that off, if possible?

>>159516015
Then maybe it's the overpopulation? Shit, I dunno to be honest family.

>>159516143
Stalin mite b cool

good stream fucking when

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>>159516143
I'd like Lenin. Or the Belgian Leopold II. Or Leonidas.
Anything but more irrelevant women shoved in to cater to the SJW landwhales.

>>159516143
king matyas

>>159500139
>catapults, crossbows and bazooka
>city states using warriors well into industrial era
>culture and test tube research can get wildly out of sync, leading to having atom program before electricity

what went wrong?

>>159516308
>literally room temperature
>too low

are they dying of some disease?

>>159516143
Ashoka

>>159516380
Yeah. Stupidity.

>>159494021
>>159496960
Yes, but not at high settings.

>>159494648
Mad because bad
Wait for waifu mods and roleplay getting raped by BIG BARBAR COCK

>>159516352
nobody at firaxis actually plays their own game

>>159516175
well thanks for trying to help either way

>>159505927
Barbarian Nations in Civilization IV's Revolutions mod worked exactly that way.

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>>159515938
Not always, hidden agendas are randomised. In one of my games she spawned with an agenda that was a complete opposite of her original one. In that screenshot she clearly states the reason for denunciation. The problem with her agenda is that she seems to count the number of units, not their actual military strength.

>can't find a 1.3.1 dl that wouldn't also try to install a slav botnet endpoint
Do I actually have to buy the game?

>>159516143
Mansa Musa
Hadrian

>>159516143
Chairman Mao

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>>159516745
yes pls

>>159515140
>>159515332
What's special about the Gargantua black hole?

>barbarians are only white
Why no variety?

>>159516143
David.
Ramses II.
Kennedy, Lincoln or that guy who beat the guy who tried to kill him with his fucking cane.

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>>159516745
>he hasn't been lurking the general over the past few days
>he missed all the anons dropping download links for pirates
I guess you can't win em all, lad.

>>159516854
gives 10% research speed as empire effect and 10 for each tree on the black hole when helping the infinity machine doing its research

>>159516149
Anyone got an answer for me?

>>159516874
>"baaaaw barbarians are black, RACISM!"
>"baaaaw barbarians are female, SEXISM"
>"baaaaw barbarians are old, AGEISM"
>"baaaaw barbarians are white, oh wait it's okay because white people are evil"

>>159516148
>king
Lol kid come back when you're playing on immortal

>>159516874
Aren't they the generic brown / tanned kind from the OP

>>159516824
Why does he hate fun so much?

>>159516951
It would make sense for barbarians to be different from continent to continent at least though.

>>159517006
No.

>>159517019
What are you talking about, he has lots of fun in his multiplayer balancing sessions all the time.

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>lets buy the same game 6 times

>>159517028
>sense
>SJWs
Pick one.

They'll literally complain about everything. Just see that guy who refused to review No Man's Sky because OMG SEXIST WHY ISN'T IT NO WOMAN'S SKY????
If Firaxis were to add amazons barbarians, they could get insulted by every SJW in that big, dumb world.

>>159517051
Still assblasted about him removing combat width and literally forcing us to build 100000 forts in every fucking area if we don't want the enemy to walk straight to capital

>>159517019
Nigger you can pirate the 1.3.1 easily. Just look for a torrent or go to steam underground forums.

>>159517132
>OMG SEXIST WHY ISN'T IT NO WOMAN'S SKY????
...what the fuck?
>amazon barbarians
With boing boing titties, I hope.

>>159516308
Is sexist air conditioning a word they used or just a clickbaity sky news headline?

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>>159517183
>With boing boing titties, I hope.
THIS

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How the fuck do i get mods to work in Stellaris, no matter what i do it just crashes.

>>159517323
It works for me™

>>159517210
After spending some time on the Huffington Post, I hope it's just a clickbait.

>>159517183
>...what the fuck?
http://jezebel.com/why-isnt-it-called-no-womans-sky-1785411230
I wish I could just post a picture instead of linking to it, but I lost it.

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>>159517427
>http://jezebel.com/why-isnt-it-called-no-womans-sky-1785411230
dafuq

>>159517575
This is what happen when a bitter woman who's too ugly to get shagged get access to Internet and find people dumb enough to believe it's their fault.

Do spies get a maximum of 3 promotions?

>>159516143
Empress Dowager Cixi

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>>159517427
>I’m going to guess you’re a linguist, which is very cool. Your explanation is interesting and informative, but very wide of the point. In modern English the word does retain its meaning of “human”, but in everyday life is used primarily to mean “male person”. That’s why titles such as “fireman” were changed. Technically it referred to everyone of all genders. In practice, it implied that the default gender for the job was male; a woman or non-binary person performing said job would be a weird anomaly. How many little girls said they wanted to be firemen, and gave up the idea when their peers laughed at them? Firemen have to be men, it’s right there in the name. Firefighter, however...language matters.

>The game designers probably did not mean to give the game a sexist title. I also agree that gender-neutral titles would give a different feel. But feminists and non-binary people have been asking for non-gendered public language for decades. The company was either too clueless to realise their title was sexist, or decided the the feel of that title was more important than excluding more than half the world’s population.

While it feels like the actual article is satire, this comment clearly is not.
I died inside.

>>159517603
we really need the a next world war so this filth can be purged off the face of earth

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>>>/pol/

>>159511751

it could never work because of AI

don't get me wrong, other games have managed to make AI that can manage supplying units, I don't think the Civ 6 team could do that though.

>>159517660
>How many little girls said they wanted to be firemen, and gave up the idea when their peers laughed at them?
Probably 0.
And for reference, I'm a guy, and I try to be a nurse. Which is a typically a feminine job.
The difference is that I don't give a fuck what retards think. Women need a thicker skin.

>>159517725
True.

>>159517754
>women
Women are not retarded SJW landwhales anymore than men are retarded genderfluid otherkin.

>>159517152
I meant EU4 to be honest familia. GS games shouldn't try to be 4x

>>159517742
Elections are near. /pol/dditors are raiding everything. I hope trump loses /pol/ gets deleted.

>that feel when you convert enemy capital and they begin to spread your religion

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>>159517812
Weird, because I saw more female retarded SJW landwhales than male retarded SJW landwhales.

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>>159516854

>>159517754

>Women need a thicker skin.

Plenty of women do.

Those women don't actually have time to protest about stupid shit or complain online about wording, because they have jobs.

>>159517971

Ye, but still a massively low number of people.

Precisely what some people in the media and some SJ-minded people want to convince people of is that there's massively MORE of them than there really is.

>>159517660
man, imagine if english had grammatical genders for every word like the russian language does for example, the US feminists would lose their mind

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>>159518013
A few is already too much.

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>>159518021
>mfw in my language neutral gender actually means it has a male pronoun in singular and female in plural or the other way around.

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I seem to have miss clicked on /pol/. I'll be going now.

>>159518021
Not only russian, spanish, portuguese, german, french... Anglos are retarded, a table is obviously female.

>>159518151
You better be going /out/side because these retards are everywhere.

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>>159518151

>someone mentioned some retarded article on a video game
>some people call it stupid for a couple of posts
>then start talking about languages
>/pol/

bye

>>159518154
Table is manly as fuck tho, it has up to 4 dicks. Now doors, doors are female.

>>159518151
>not a single mention of blacks or jews
>/pol/
You never actually visited /pol/, right?

>>159518154
Fuck typed a comma instead of a period.
>>159518309
>muh wymin
>i haet feminists! but I'll give them ALL my attention!!11!!

>>159517812
>anymore than men are retarded genderfluid otherkin
EHEHEHEHEHE

>>159517971
The females are rare too, they're like 1% of the actual population
Also you're not looking in the right places.

>>159518086
We used to.

>>159518346
Someone posted a retarded article and people are calling it retarded, how fucking new are you?

>>159518463
>>>>/pol/
>>>>/redit/

Yes yes we all get it, you are outraged at opinionated people with wrong opinions and perhaps some mental health problems.

Can we get back to discussing 4X now?

'member when we used to talk about civilization and 4x games?

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I'm going to Kharak the fuck out of Earth for being so stupid.

>>159518694
Good thinking, you'll probably make earth a little less stupid!

>>159518540
>>159518554
Why don't you start then, newfags? Every strategy general has a tint of /his/ and /pol/ in it because of the nature of (historical) strategy games.

>>159518873
Yeah, about that. Did Gandhi ever led India? I think he helped liberate it, but he never was in charge of India.

I am fond of 4x games

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>>159516143
I want my Oda Nobunaga.

>>159518873
>calling people newfags
You are the newfag.. Only /gsg/ has been found of cancer. And /his/ was good for a week before /int//pol/tards came there to seek validation for their stupid ""theories"" and all smart people left because the mods did nothing.

Hide and report. This is just /pol/ rusing us or /gsg/vapourgroup

>>159518873
There is nothing historical about /pol/ crossboarders shitposting.

>newfags
Grow up and stop parroting

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>>159516143

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Why are there so many little faggots wanting Stalin to be a leader for Russia in Civ 6 instead of Peter the Great? Just look at the comment fields in the youtube-section. What kind of edgy kids are they? Why aren't those edgy kids begging for Hitler to be a leader instead of Barbarossa? Is being a poser-commie just edgy enough, but being a poser-nazi a little over the line?

>>159518540
>opinionated people with wrong opinions and perhaps some mental health problems
Good ol' /gsg/

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>4x gamers can't have political of societal opinions that differ from me
It must be /pol/ raiding us! Arrghh!

what are some civs

>>159519089
Well to be fair Stalin has precedent of the very first game going for him.

Your head would look good on the end of a pole.

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>>159516143
Gustav I of Sweden
Franz Joseph I of Austria
Maybe the Ottomans as well? I don't know any rulers beside Suleiman and he was in Civ V

Alright, what are the absolute must-have mods for stellaris?

Im talking about bigger maps, much more indepth gameplay, "better" AI and just something that makes the game not boring after 2 hours in.

>>159519089
Most people will remember Stalin and Hitler for what they've done than other leaders in their respective countries. That and I suppose they want them just because "look how cool and edgy I am guys" attitude.

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>>159519089
Peter's a cool dude, but his bonuses in 6 fucking suck. It's also weird having the dude that demolished Moscow's Patriarchate and effectively castrated Russian clergy lead a civ focused almost entirely on religion. It will be even weirder if they add any of the commie leaders, unless they replace the district bonus entirely.

>>159516143
Vlad the Impaler. For all the holy wars against mudslimes.

>>159519250
where get mods for stellaris for pirates?

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>>159519170
>announce she's a lesbian
>career immediately died

>meet new civ
>that moment all civs on the map declare war on me
Alright.

>>159519282
I like the extra territory when founding new cities and the tundra bonus is pretty comfy imo. There are far worse leaders to choose from (Harald for example).

>>159519068

You actually have paranoia.

>move Stellaris from HDD to SSD
>loading takes the same amount of time
Paradox programmers should be beheaded.

>>159519089
>Why are there so many little faggots wanting Stalin to be a leader for Russia in Civ 6 instead of Peter the Great?
Stalin's the most famous. He's along with Hitler the modern embodiment of a strong, effective state that wins wars. There are other leaders who did exactly that with less casualties in Germany and Russia, but they're not that famous.

>>159516143
Helmut Kohl or Erich Honecker for Germany

>>159519305
There is a MEGA archive in the underground forums