/civ4xg/ - Civilization, Stellaris, Endless and 4X Games General

>>159380868
Besides the war I presume
Also holy fuck the nigger is insufferable
I DON'T GET FREE MISSIONARIES AND MISSIONARIES DON'T START WITH GREATER TELEPORTATION ANYWAY ASSHOLE

Can you even play tall in Civ 6?

I feel like I'm just crippling myself playing this way.

>>159380868
>Nothing is affecting your relationship Edition
I wonder how many anons don't realise that it lists ongoing modifier to relation per turn rather then totals, which is displayed in the above bar.

>>159267431
Offer still stands.

If I get Endless Legend on the humble store can I put it on steam? I have Endless Legend on steam already but I want to get all of the DLC mega cheap.

>>159381280
It's such a cf to work through tho with distrust on all sides I bet it puts people off of taking you up on the offer anon. Thanks for trying.

>>159381210
Absolutely not and it makes me sad. Playing tall was fun RPing for me in V.
Anything other than wide is like you said, just self-crippling.

>>159381468
Tall was optimal in 5 tho. As much as I liked wide it was the less competitive of the two.

>>159381409
And yet you may never know. I already did this at random in /twg/ and here. Some people believe and roll, some don't. I'd just post a humblebundle code, but I don't want someone just grabbing it. At least rolling for it is an effort someone who doesn't want the game in question is less likely to perform.

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What do you guys think of Endless Space 2? Haven't played any game in the series but it looks interesting.

i posted this before but no one replied so i'm asking here again. i'm playing civ6 btw because i'm a new fag
guys. am in desperate need of help here. i'm currently getting fucked over by ghandi and his religion.(my religion called memeology started REALLY late) and now whatever religious units i make (like apostles) preach the hinduism religion. what do? i dont wanna lose like this. i'm still new to civilisation.

>>159381262
I'm well aware of it, and I made the OP pic. Kongo declared joint war on me the second their scout discovered my borders. The joint war was with another civilization I hadn't even mt.

In Stellaris is it possible to have AI empires NOT draw from the pre-made "default" ones?

Like if I made a human empire can I make it so the two vanilla human empires won't spawn?

It would be awkward to have two Sol systems for example.

>>159381262
It certainly doesn't make it clear in any way.

>>159381826
You can't do anything as far as religion. If you wipe out Gandhi though he can't win religiously anymore.

>>159381808
Understandably incomplete (it's early access after all), but with a release schedule terrifies me.

>>159382023
i guess i'll become a warmonger then. we were friends but i guess that ends now. rip ghandi. i chose Tomyris(Scythian empire) so endless horse units

>>159382207
>horses
>not nukes
Ghandi would be disappointed.

>>159381826
>new to game
>doesn't want to lose even though anon doesn't know what they're doing
Take a deep breath, and start a new game. You think you're getting worse before you get better.

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Yeeeaaah

Yeeeaaah

>>159382413
i'll start a new game after i go down in glory. i previously played with Greece(the lady) but Tomyris is quickly becoming my favorite leader

>>159381808
It's alpha. As is - worse than ES, long term - too soon to tell.

>>159381846
Ai loves dogpiling for the sake of easy territory. I approve. Shouldn't have made walls mandatory if they didn't want this to happen.

>>159382023
>It certainly doesn't make it clear in any way.
That it does not.
>You can't do anything as far as religion. If you wipe out Gandhi though he can't win religiously anymore.
You, technically, can. If you manage to introduce a sufficent number of different religions to cities neigbouring to your holy city, destabilising it's balance, you will eventually get it to flip back to your faith cause holy site of holy city always makes pressure. Not that this is feasible or worth doing.

>>159382365
i get another saka horse archer for training one saka horse archer anon. i can make a saka horse archer in 3 turns thankfully. so i have some decent sustain in my opinion.

Goddamnit just put the fuckin' workshop out already you dumb sluts.

>tfw first city is founded within 6 tiles of Yosemite

>>159382761
>i get another saka horse archer for training one saka horse archer anon
No you don't understand anon, everyone knows this. Scythia is bar none the most overpowered nation in the game right now, it's literally in a tier of its own. In multiplayer games you either ban Scythia or play Scythia unless you want to lose like a bitch.

>>159381385
Yes.

>>159382761
Meant that the only proper way to defeat Ghandi is through nukes. Nuke up his cities before he does yours.

I know I can google these questions but it's not always easy to find the answers, so let's see how knowledge you guys are.

In Civ6:

Does the trade route distance matter? If I pick a trade route that gives half the resources as a trade route with twice the distance, does it essentially even out?

What exactly is the downside to creating multiple cities? Is there none?

Do the medics heal everything? By how much? I never actually see them do their thing, and a lack of a combat log sucks.

>>159383102
i intend to win then. thx for confirming my suspicions that scythia was immensely overpowered. the only real problem i can see with them is that you need to get farely lucky and get horses nearby for a free early game lead.
>>159383229
oh ok. neither of us are capable of nukes rn tho. we're still in the renaissance era. i'm building a ton of units right outside my boundaries.

>>159382019
I don't think there is, and it bothers me aswell. It pisses me off when I've put a few hours into a game only to find my species on the other side of the galaxy as bronze age primitives or as a fucking fallen empire or something.

The game needs a simple option in game creation to force original species with no double ups. Keep it optional to appease both parties, of course.

Reminder that the current best stellaris ethos combo is F.Individualist + materialist

>>159384156
what gov type? I've generally always gone collectivist because I want my empire pure but I make try a happy friendly empire next

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So what does the current tier-list look like? Scythia is obviously at the top, but who's at the bottom and in-between?

>>159384156
I prefer fanatical spiritualist, but to each their own.

Personally, I usually wait until I get the empire building, upgrade my government to transcended empire and keep the encourage free thought edict permanently on. Works a treat.

>>159384375
I stand by mine.
S.Scythia
A.Rome,Germany,Monty,Sumer
B.Japan,Kongo,Russia,Greeks
C.China,India, Egypt,Brazil
D.France, England, Arabia, Spain
Joke. Norway

>>159383425
>Saka Horse Archers
>requiring horses
Pick one

What IDIOT designed this new movement system?

>>159384821
this seems about right to me desu.
germany has finally revealed themselves and they're aparently not trying to make wars this time.
>>159384915
if i'm not mistaken saka horse archers require horses to be created. thus y'know. the horse in name saka horse archers.it'd only make sense desu.
>>159384932
it infuriates me at times as well anon.

I'm about to start with stellaris, any advices?

>>159384821
Where ya boi Montezuma at?

>>159385508
>A.Rome,Germany,Monty
I wonder.

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>le epic words backed by nuclear weapons maymay!

:^)))

>>159385139
>if i'm not mistaken saka horse archers require horses to be created. thus y'know. the horse in name saka horse archers.it'd only make sense desu.
>being this retarded.

>>159385869
man this looks so fucking bad. what were they thinking?

>>159386541
You know perfectly well.

>>159386541
Consoles. Why do you think they have delayed the workshop.

>>159386002
:/. welp. you need horses to produce this unit what else do i need to tell you?

Justo had to nuke one of my own cities to kill 5 barbarian units spawned mainly due to lack of fucking ammenities.

>>159387326
Are you playing dumb? No you dont. Everyone knows they have horse factories newfag. It's like he thinks romans need steel to make their famous copper pikes.

>>159387326
>still pushing it

No anon, you're not gonna meme your way out of it. Just admit it to your self and move on.

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>When its turn 40 and they dont have a fleet of warships.

>>159385302
build second science ship immediately
focus on minerals before all else
only colonise planets with 20+ tiles unless you're shit out of options and then get the highest ones
keep fleet near max capacity, especially early because pirates and other galactic faggots

>>159385869
The UI is just unforgivably shit.

>>159387825
>when Harald is landlocked

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I'm about to try and play this smug motherfucker. Any advice on how to play early-to-mid game?

>>159388051
Doesn't Harald have a hard coastal start bias?

>>159388330
I've started inland more than a few times trying to play him.

>>159388303
Like a Jew.

>>159388303

why is his hands and head so small
this makes me feel weird.

how do promotions work with combining units into armies?

>>159388303
Anything that has to do with mercs, buyout and dust is high prio. You still need production in capital cause early on buying shit out is bad. Moving city is a useless gimmick. That's about it.

>>159388330
The game im in right now i started land locked with him and it was on an islands map. Although i was only 2 tiles from the coast so if i really wanted i could of.

Isnt it usually better to be landlocked in 6 anyway?

>>159387538
>>159387651
alright i admit it. i was being an idiot. :/
so how's everyone's day been?

>>159388495

The army has the promotion of the unit it is combining with I think

>>159388815
Could be better, the thread I browse might not have someone using actual unironic reddit tier emotes
seriously fucking stop it

>>159387987
plebbit loved it until they actually had to play with it

it's so bad even they hate it

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>>159388889
:^)

>Ocean is bad compared to fresh water

I hate this new system so much.
Why can't my lighthouse provide decent food to compensate for this?

So i'm about to start stellaris what traits should i pick for my empire? Are the Oversized ships any good?

>>159389061
because there arent any fish?
>>159388889
sorry. i will

>>159388764
I mean not necessarily on the coast, but in range to easily found your capital on it within 2 turns.

>>159389061

It's true. Ocean towns with no access to river are shit. Problem is the awful aqueduct system. That is definitely getting changed.

>>159388991
It's not even the style or how it looks
It's just bad at doing everything a UI, a USER INTERFACE, is supposed to do. It doesn't display much information or make that information clear, it isn't USER friendly, it doesn't actually fucking have a lot of information, and you need to click ten buttons in the most random places to get the info you need. On top of that the fucking double diplo meme got old the first time I saw it.

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>>159388541
What about resource focus? I was thinking

Early
Ind > F > S > D > Inf

Later
D > S > Inf > F > Ind

what's the easiest way to siege a capital and with what recommended units.

>>159389485
the workshop can't come soon enough

i fear only modders can fix a fuck-up this monumental

we need infoaddict except even more thorough

>>159389596
literally anything with a seige tower glued to it

>>159389596

If no walls, and no units in it
>strongest melee units
If no walls and has an archer/warrior in it
>Strongest melee units backed up by archers
If city has walls
>Bring a siege tower, and if a long campaign siege weapons

why is there no way to damage units inside a city

>AI with walls, archer and ranged boat
reee

>>159388490
Aren't anime characters like that?

The Japanese like small heads to slim bodies for some reason

>>159389076
Any fanatic ethics other than spiritualist or individualist are useless

>ai has a tundra area behind them that has luxury and bonus resources
>they keep trying to settle the plains between all my cities

cut it out

Why do I need an encampment to half my resource cost? What's the logic behind it?

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>>159389981
No they aren't, not at all.

>>159389981
nah
proper anatomy is like 1:3 head width to shoulder width
anime usually has a larger head and smaller frame
sandjew is fairly broad-shouldered(the pauldrons don't help) with a slightly small head

>end turn
>trajan talks shit to you and declares war on you
>cleopatra does as well
>realize I'm playing trajan

the fuck

Hopefully it doesn't fuck my game over

>>159389875
>>159389812
thx. i was wondering why my knights were being obliterated. i'll send sieg towers next time.

>>159390568
It's a bug. Have you met every civ yet? It can happen if a joint war is declared without meeting one of the participants.

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why is civ 6 so shit? balancing issues and whatnot aside it just seems really boring. Was civ 5 as boring at launch?

>>159390761

Civ 5 launch was infinitely worse.

>>159390761
Civ V was a dumpster fire at launch.

>>159390264
>>159390206
Well I'm not talking about mature characters. Immature or younger characters always have big head compared to the body, but with mature characters it's always really slim body and really slim head.

>>159390750
Nah I've met 3/10, good to know though.

>>159390761
>Was civ 5 as boring at launch
It was just unplayable. Almost R2 tier.

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>hey AoW looks neat I'll try it out
>Fuck yes it has a GoG version
>KAT is dead
>BCG is dead
>all the links on IGG are dead
>try SRLD DDL
>this file contains malware

Why

Why don't you start with a scout in Civ 6

Everyone builds one, and you only don't build one if you're vs AI at immortal/deity

i've been pillaged by barbarians recently. i wiped them out then stationed a builder on the pillaged area but i've no option to repair. is there something i'm missing?

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>>159391014
But it isn't...?

>>159391273
it's along the builder's action bar, not with the improvements

Builders are for tile improvement repair.

Check your city's production, one of the options is to repair districts

>>159389582
I like to micro my food to maintain good growth, other than that I concur.

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>>159391014
>>159391305
In case you think Esdese is too 'sexy' and doesn't count.

>>159391342
apparently it isnt. i have to manually repair the unit using the city the same way i built it. i dont quite understand why but whatever. i'll do what has to done to reclaim all my ammenities. i'm 7 ammenities down rn
>>159391394
i just noticed my bad. you replied as i was typing my error

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>>159391470

>>159384821
Where's based Teddy?

>>159391515
I don't blame you, this UI is a mess. It's all good.

>>159391601
Hell I knew I missed somethign, Teddy is C. He is good lategame but being mostly vanilla early hurts a lot.

>>159391595
>jojo's distinctive artstyle that has reached meme status
>meaning shit about 'anime' in general
Come on now, do you think people do those poses in every anime too?

>>159391273
>>159391515
builders can't repair districts, they have to be repaired in the build menu of the city. Builders can only repair farms, mines, etc

>>159391752
Sounds fair. While I have you, why rank Japan that high? Because of the district discounts?

>>159391802
that's acdc, numbnuts

>>159391862
And the bonuses, natch.

>>159391868
Are you baiting? ACDC is from Jojo.

>>159391852
i noticed. no worries. the only real worry i have now is with the state of my city and how long it'll last till they completely revolt. i wasted several turns trying to figure out how to repair my shit.

Finally find the time to sit down and play a game through to completion, and I get sniped by Pedro with a religious victory. Is there anything you can do to shut them down once the AI is getting close to a religious victory?

>>159391862
Because A would be going too far in all honesty due to coastal bias. Altho I am tempted. Sakura factories are insanely OP as far as unique infrastracture goes, they and german stuff is top tier.

The next thing Firaxis should borrow from Amplitude is UI design.

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>if your first 3 districts are anything besides Encampment -> Commercial -> Industrial you're literally guaranteed to get railroaded by someone who did

well, I don't know what I expected.

>>159392056
>In case you think Esdese is too 'sexy' and doesn't count.

germany has been talking to me for the past couple turns and complaining about my cities distance to his. there's a literal ocean between both of us. why's he such a whiny bitch in every mode i play?

>>159392102
convert any of their converted cities, they dont necessarily have to be owned by pedro
or
wipe pedro off the face of the earth

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>play as England
>get warred on by Greece, Kongo, and Norway in one turn
>war weariness stacks up and citizens starting becoming barbarians
>barbarians are redcoats so they get the +10 continent bonus everywhere
>start moving into Kongo
>slowly destroy Kongo for me

Well, that worked out surprisingly

>>159392280
I just posted Zenjurou though.

>>159392427
Brits rebelling that crown is not imperialistic enough? Sounds like brits.

>>159390750
Seems you were right. I met Kongo, and he was like, i'm so happy to meet you, i can see you are blessed by god and shit, then I look at the top right and we're at war. This game feels so damn rushed. They needed at least a few months more to make what's there polished.

>>159392261
No way, it's Commercial => Industrial => Encampment imo

>>159392718
>Not rushing apprenticeship.
How do you live with yourselves.

The Advent:
>Fanatic Spiritualist, Collectivist, Divine Mandate.
>Charismatic, Communal, Rapid Breeders, Weak.

The TEC:
>Fanatic Individualist, Materialist, Plutocratic Oligarchy.
>Industrious, Thrifty, Sedentary, Slow Breeders.

The Vasari:
>Fanatic Xenophobe, Militarist, Military Dictatorship.
>Conformists, Talented, Decadent, Repugnant.

>>159393298
>advent
>charismatic
Hahahahaha no. Nobody like hypocritical space hippies.

>>159393298
Trying to define actual factions with stellarises inadequate systems just highlights how bad stellaris is. They are spiritualist and materialist both. They are cyborgs for fuck's sake.

>>159392450
Is this a jojoke?

>>159393714
You are an idiot. Spiritualists are not anti-technology and Materialists pro-technology you fucking neckbeard fedora faggot.

The Advent are fanatical spiritualists because they prioritize spiritual understandings of the universe vs material understandings of the universe.

Spiritual =/= organized religion

>>159394050
I seriously don't understand what a neckbeard is
Is it like, a failed beard? Why not get rid of it if it don't work then?

>>159394159
It's a boogeyman. It supposely mean a guy who doesn't shave properly, and thus has hair on his neck, when normal people only have it on their chin.

>>159394050
>Spiritualists
>not anti-technology
>Our science has proved that Consciousness begets reality. We regard with patience the childlike efforts of those who delude themselves it is the other way around, as they play with their blocks of 'hard matter'.
>Literally denying objective universe and with it scientific method.
>Being unhappy if robots given any rights.

You gonna bait, try harder.

>>159394050
>>159394272
It refers to fatasses who don't shave. Fatasses often look like they lack a goddamn neck and the fat that hangs beneath their chin creates more a second neck. They grow their beard there, thus creating the illusion that they're so far gone they've begun growing hair on their neck.

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>occupy enemy planet +12
>enemy occupies one of my planets -26
haha goym, really funny

>>159394576
Paradox programming.

>>159394576
You're either smaller or those are more developed / larger planets.

>>159394576
Do they have more planets than you? Are these backwater planets or capital worlds?

>>159393615
What would you suggest instead?

>>159394820
You mean beside putting them into slavery?

>>159394934
Not a fan of the Advent, huh?

I went with Charismatic because The Unity is a proselytizing faith.

>>159394784
the 2 enemy factions have combined 2 more planets than me
the 3 i occupied are less developed than the 2 they did but i also occupied 1 of their capitals

>>159384156
Why is this?

>>159384313
And I second this -- which Government?

>that goofy music playing for Brazil
>even when he's angry

I can't take him seriously.

>>in war with india. intense af. random barbarian raid. they cripple my harbour and my faith districts. rng pls. it literally took 16 turns to repair my harbours after your bs.

>>159389883
Because that's the point of city walls and encampments.

Just bring a siege tower and smash the city to rubble in like 2 turns.

>>159394576
is the planet you occupied the one in your war demands?
is the planet they occupied the one in their war demands?

>>159395121
I don't like spiritualistic factions in video games, either the Advent in Sins, or the Aeons in Sup Com.
They're always like
>"maaan we are so superior to everyone else, we are only fighting to defend our oppressed religion"
>"do I holy eyes spot an infidel?"
>"PREPARE YOUR ANUS YOU BOWL-HAIRED, KNIFE-EARED PIECE OF SHIT WANKSTAIN FAGGOT, I WILL ERADICATE YOUR ASS FROM REALITY AND RAPE YOUR DAUGHTER IN FRONT OF YOU BEFORE MURDERING AND EATING YOUR WIFE, YOU FUCKING PIECE OF SHIT, I HATE YOU"
>"maaaan, I'm such a good person, why can't our enemies see the folly of their ways?"

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Oh man, i lucked the fuck out
even more so given i set it to 25% habitable worlds

>>159395456
It's almost like .. Planets of Hats are bad. Noooo, that can't be.

Seriously tho, it's kinda refreshing how openly hostile advent are. But then everyone in Soase is an asshole, so it's not a a big surprise.

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>>159395456
Oh, yeah, no doubt -- religious fanatics are assholes.

'Member no ISIS?

>>159395715
The TECs are bad in SoaSE? From the manual, I was under the impression they just banned the Advent when they could have easily exterminated them.

>>159395584
what the fuck? I have never seen planets so rich in resources.
>all those dual resources tiles though
I hate having to choose energy/minerals/food

>>159395715
The TEC are total bros, though.

>>159395901
And they did that like a thousand years ago; they've long since developed into a peaceful, borderline post-scarcity civilization.

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>>159395418
i occupied the 3 i demand, they occupied 1 they demand and 1 other
its probably because of how poorly developed what i occupied is

You guys are really catty today huh?

FRIDAY NIGHT MOTHERFUCKER

>>159396019
I remember the manual explaining that most of the TEC ships are repurposed civilian ships. Fucking advents are slaughtering innocent people for their twisted way.

>>159396161
It's seriously like two stone-age tribes getting into a scuffle, one tribe leaving, then coming back during the industrial era and still holding the same grudge.

It's ludicrous.

>>159395231
>>159384156
I'm assuming it's Direct Democracy, for the Happiness and Leader Experience bonuses.

>>159395901
>>159396019
>>159396267

Yeah, and trail of tears was just a nice walk under the sun, that everyone quickly forgot about. TEC is a military branch of a stagnant plutocracy, split between people who want to bunker up and people who want to take revenge on Vasary/Advent.

>>159396267
Yeah. It would make sense if there was some sort of nazi-like genocide, but the TEC aren't even an empire, they're just traders. In the worst case, they could be evil corporations, but nothing in the manual suggested that. For all I saw, they're just peaceful traders who don't want religious nutjob around and suddenly have to fight to the death.

>>159396013
I've seen one or two before with that many minerals, but never the energy and food
definitely never found anything like this before for sure.
>dual tiles
I did just install a mod that lets me build dual resource collection buildings, i wonder if it's had some weird effect along side another mod and this is the result, if so no complaints

>>159384156
I'm currently playing Individualist/Materialist/Militarist and it's going great. Why go Fanatical Individualist, if you don't mind me asking? Just for the additional Energy?

>>159396550
>dual resource collection buildings
neat, is it for 1.3.1?

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>2016
>Still no stellaris general

Why

>>159397018
We are here to contain you.

>>159396840
pretty sure it is, if nothing else it all seems to be working

>>159397018
>stellaris general
>750 posts of people whining at the game's bad code and stupid decisions
No.

>>159397160
Good job anon. I now want it to happen.

>>159396384
Or Plutocratic Oligarchy, for the reduction in price.

Third to last digit decides militarist (odd) or pacifist (even)
Second to last digit decides materialist (odd) or spiritualist (even)
Last digit decides collectivist (odd) or individualist (even)

If any number is zero it's xenophobe/xenophile and the 4th to last digit decides (odd for phobe even for phile)

>>159397254
Just go to /b/ and open a thread about SJWs wrecking some guy's shit, it'll be exactly the same.

>>159397383
But people on /b/ and /pol/ all know that the boards are for fucking around. If we made one here we could have an entire thread of discussion of exactly what is wrong in stellaris. In great detail and with multiple examples. Mostly done by people who give a shit.

>>159397018
Does anyone even play stellaris?

>>159397560
>people on /b/ and /pol/ all know that the boards are for fucking around
I doubt it, last time I went to talk about how Jews saved us all from a false prophet and how there's nothing wrong with being black, jewish, and sexually liberated and not shackled by "marriage", people seemed pretty serious when they called me a cuck.

>mfw there are fanfics for Civilization V

>>159397954
As long as it's not smut...

>>159396821
Regular individualist lets you ignore policy happiness a little

Fanatic individualist lets you COMPLETELY ignore policy happiness, which therefore allows you to COMPLETELY ignore ethics divergence

Any stellaris build requires either

A) complete ethics control
B) complete ethics mitigation

Government depends on which secondary ethic you choose, which is completely optional

>>159398413
>Washington and Monty double-teaming Isabella.

>>159398640
So you could have a species with the Deviant trait, and so long as they were Fanatic Individualists it wouldn't matter, they wouldn't diverge from your ethos?

>>159397314
You can' be F. Individualist and choose Plutocratic Oligarchy.

I want Civ 6 but it sounds like it has a terrible case of Firaxis Game At Launch syndrome

What game will tide me over until it becomes playable?

>>159399398
Age of Wonders 3.

Can achievements be unlocked in multiplayer in this one? I want to play some games with friends to make it less dull but two of them won't play if they can't possibly get achievements out of it.

>>159399006
Exactly, like decadent with collectivists

>>159399398
Endless Legend

>>159399006
Oh wait no, what I meant is that due to the -60% empire mitigation on policy unhappiness, it doesn't matter what ethos your population has

You're meant to be a giant melting pot, while also getting 2/3 of the best unique buildings in the game

>>159399653
>cheevos

>>159399398
Distant worlds.

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Is there a notification log in Civ 6? I notice my units with discover a ruins but I have no idea what they found.

I want to build my own automated dreadnoughts so I can have more than one, how do I do this? I've tried just using the console but when I spawn either the automated dreadnought or a restored version it just spawns as an error box with a turret on top of it.

Pls help I just want 2 or 3 dreadnoughts leading my fleets into battle.

>>159401837
the reports tab up the top next to your envoys? I've never really looks at it so not sure what it has in it

>>159399886
Oh, I see!

That's good, then; no matter what my citizens believe, they're all equally happy under my banner!

Okay, so I'm currently running an Individualist/Materialist/Militarist build, with Direct Democracy (eventually Unconscious Consensus) as my government.

I'm going for a Happiness build, to maximize yield; would you still suggest removing Militarist and going for Fanatic Individualist?

They're also Communal (Happiness bonus) but I was thinking of making them Fast Breeders instead; what do you think of that?

>>159399886
What's the third?

>>159402145
Figured it out, just gotta fire the event that spawns it instead.

Okay now I want to change what weapons it has as plasma throwers and disruptors are A. Garbage and B. not what I'm running on other ships.

>Surrounded by people that hate me
>But too afraid to attack me without the support of a huge alliance
>Making it rain on people to keep them from being too mad to attack
>Have a huge surplus of military hardware just to keep myself safe
>tfw you accidently made space Isreal
>tfw you took Thrifty

>>159402341
>>159399886
Please respond.

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Why can't I build a national park on this wonder?
Do roads count as tile improvements?
How do I remove them?

>>159402341
You can do whatever you want in the end, but if you're going individualist then fanatic is the only option

Fast breeders is ok, but I prefer the science/experience traits

>>159402420
The materialist lab

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>playing stellaris
>federation declares war on me even though I dindu nuffin to them
>some members get their fleets obliterated
>get message that one of them ends rivalry with me
>WILL YOU NOT CEASE THIS POINTLESS CAMPAIGN OF HATE?

>>159403695
vertical diamonds, you can remove the farm next to your city if you want a national park with 3 of the mega-marsh tiles

>>159404118
thx

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>high as fuck playing stellaris
>comfy as fuck music
>happily building my armada because FE just woke
>suddenly asteroid approaching planet
>loud as fuck alarm spooked the shit out of me
>pacing around the room while I type this

reliquaries + kandy (or to a lesser extent mont st michel) is such a dumb combo, its sacred sites 2.0

singlehandly takes cultural victory from shit tier to only behind shit like sythica horseman

Is settling on resources the same as five?
There's a good one food/four hammer tile with deer on it.

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Finished my King run and honestly it felt like a mess. The AI can't keep up with you if you decided to go all in on a certain win condition. What makes it worse is that it seems like you can't be a pacifist which was very possible in Civ5.

I thought agenda mechanic sounded great at first but it might be the cause of a lot of problems.

>>159403696
What are the first two, then?

Because that's the Hyper-Entertainment Forum as the other.

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>have 3 science ships assisting research
>have 3 scientists doing normal research
>only have 5 scientists in the leaders tab

>>159405435
Hyper and the galactic exchange (empire-unique, +10% energy creds)

>>159403696
I have them as Communal, Enduring, Fast Learners.

Happy, long-lived, rapidly-leveling.

>>159404838
The agenda system's fine imo, it just needs some tuning. I.E. Going against a leader's agenda once shouldn't make them hate you forever regardless of what else you do. Actual diplomacy is impossible now.

>>159405615
Then don't you get all three by going Individualist/Materialist?

Hyper-Entertainment Forum (Ind), Research Institute (Mat), and Galactic Stock Exchange (Ind).

That gets all three, yes?

I need a Civ 5 civilization good at founding a city on another continent and conquering from it. Overseas expansion and conquest. Conquest of the New World was fantastic and I never found a civilization that effectively replicated it.

>>159406060
Yes it does, I was just describing f.indiv by itself

One could similarly choose militarist for increased chance of weapon techs or xenophile for a big immigration increase from their unique building.

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>Not having your empire be a culturally diverse paradise

fun fact: not a single pop you see is from the main founding race

>>159406284
I didn't realise you could roleplay the USA in this game

>>159406284
germany pls

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>playing stellaris
>get bored
>go in observer mode
>the minute I do this my empire enslaves everyone (even the founding races) and then purges all the non-founding races for no reason.
>not even xenophobic

>>159406786
sounds comfy

>>159406810
Why would the PC do it though?
The non-founder pops were all same ethos and happy. And the enslavement was also ridiculous, it enslaved all pops on science tiles too.
Broken AI.

>>159406896
>Broken AI
yup. What ethos were you?

>>159407048
Militarist/Collectivist/Spiritualist

>>159406232
Having loads of gold is the biggest factor, so Portugal or Morocco. Spain obviously because of Conquistadors. Invading as Songhai is fun. Denmark is built for it, I guess, but then you'd have to play Denmark.

>>159407183
I meant custom civs. I've of course tried the vanilla guys.

>>159407383
IIRC Norway had a bonus for something other continents related. Let me check custom civs I have installed for a moment

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Rate this AoW meme lads

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>start new game
>19 tile planet within jump distance
>finish colony ship
>tell it on which tile to land
>starts moving there
>it stops
>someone else started colonising the planet

>>159407518
>>159407383
None of the civs I have has continent related bonus. Norway's kinda nice but not really what you're looking for. I searched through internet and found these two
http://civilization-v-customisation.wikia.com/wiki/Tahiti_(Purea)
http://civilization-v-customisation.wikia.com/wiki/The_Vikings_(Ragnar_Lodbrok)
But it looks like the guy who made these mods updated them and removed the continent bonus from both of them. You can probably find the older versions in the steam page comments if you really want

>>159403695
>>159404118
Its cause you have a road running through it

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>>159408131
10/10 mah nigga

why do you guys rate scythia so high?

>play tsl giant earth map with no barbs so the turn times stay low
>game crashes at turn 137

REEEEE

>>159408897
This happened to me too when I was playing on DX10. IIRC playing on DX9 fixed it

>>159408867
Horses are the liquor of 4x

>>159408867
Assuming you're not 'aving a giggle.
>Ridiculous combat bonus. Healing up to half health from killing a unit is massive. The bonus strength against wounded units will apply early and often.
>Double light cavalry where cavalry are the strongest is huge, and even if you don't need it the extras can be sold for incredible amounts of dosh.
>Similarly the Saka Horse Archer is a very mobile ranged unit which can also be spammed.
>Kurgan is actually shite like most other UIs

>>159408867
Horsemen are the best unit in the game for the first 2 eras.
Scythia gets 2 horsemen at a time (with appropriate civic cards and an encampment you can lower their production time to 1 turn), all of their units heal after killing someone and even if you don't feel like dominating entire map with endless waves of horsemen you can just sell them for absurd piles of dosh and buy anything you want forever.

>Just finished researching Synths
>Already have a rogue synth in the first month after

>>159409124
no im not, im absolutely shit at civ6, can barely beat the game in emperor

>>159409154
>>159408992
thanks

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Hey does anyone know some good mods for Civ 3?
I'm trawling civfanatics and there's a ton of mods, but does anyone have any opinions on which ones are the best?

Or any discussions on which Civ mods are the best?

Also is there anything to make the AI not settle every single stretch of uninhabited ground even if it's a stretch of 8 desert tiles on a coastline with no fish or whales and also right next to your capital?

>>159409154
So she's basically the Korea of civ6?

I've noticed this game IS ANNOYING AS FUCK when it comes to denouncing.

Like once one country denounces you, ALL countries hate you. And there is never any alliances in the game

>>159410276
No, Korea turtled-up and out-teched everyone.

Scythia just runs you down before you leave the Ancient Era.

>>159410276
More like Huns. There's no nation like Korea or Babylon in civ6 since science is so low priority and there's no civs that fully focus on it. The unit production is the king right now and Scythia does it better than anyone else. Sumer is close second place due to endless upkeep-free war carts.

I don't see how Japan is any good. Combat near water is dumb because water cities are shit

>>159411131
>trashtalking Venice
Bitch I'll fuck you up.

>>159411131
They build 3 districts for half of their time IIRC,this is godly because of stupid district cost increasing, have districts bonuses and factories are pretty good

>>159410734
I think Arabia is the only kinda-science focused civ in Civ VI

>>159411234
Don't Spain and Sumer have some handy science bonuses too?

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>cliffs on both sides
>mountain range to the south
>im scythia

Ty auto win

>>159411651
Not challenging enough, restart :^)

>>159411612
Tied to a Unique Improvement, and those are trashy wastes of space compared to plopping down a district.

>>159411990
I thought all civs had their unique buildings be districts?

I guess Sid isn't fond of balance

>>159412095
No, Kurgan, Sphynx, Mission, Ziggurat and a couple I'm probably forgetting are Improvements.

Sid hasn't been directly involved with the franchise in years. He's almost like a designer-emertius. He sits around designing whatever he feels like in his office and occasionally helps out the junior devs when they run up against something.

>>159412181
I know, but I needed to point a finger at someone for the meme

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>use Franz von Hipper to get a free battleship
>use Santa Cruz to turn your free battleship into an armada
>free rank 1 battleship armada that can be deployed at any of your costal cities

holy fuck

>>159408974
You can start civ 6 on dx9?

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>>159412275

>>159412275
>Having Battleships before Rifling

>>159412783
Them Great People, mang.

Tell me what autistic things you do in 4x games /4xg/

Sometimes I used to mod my CiV games so that it was impossible to research beyond the medieval age to simulate a world where fossil fuels and gunpowder couldn't be refined/discovered

Is there a guide to districts and how they work?

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>>159412949
Gochu lad

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>start beating these niggers into defeat
>triggers war in heaven
>realize they look exactly the same as the dark things in babylon 5
>war in heaven
>one is a religious fanantic the other wants to control tech
>dark ones
Well done paradox. Very original

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>>159413092
>Screk

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>>159412913
I like to 'cause world wars when my army is big enough. Most I had were five world wars on a marathon run with land of the rising sun.

Other than that, just being Venice and rolling in the dough while controlling World Congress. There's just something so fun about only being able to have one city.

How did the CIV genre became so incredibly fucking boring?

The first 100 turns are great as you shape your empire n shit, but after that its a massive snorefest.

You just spam builders and traderoutes all day, maybe 2k gold each round and as soon as war breaks out, you just buy 10 of the best units, steamroll ANYONE on the highest difficulty and thats it.

Its so fucking boring, there is no engaging gameplay, the AI is retarded and does nothing, every turn is the same after turn ~150 or so, nothing exciting happens. you completely dominate the city states at all times and even all AI's combined literally cannot touch you.

I'm not the only one who notices Cleopatra belittling my dick with her eyes when she insults my army size, right?

>>159413036
Holy shit I always plopped them down randomly without considering adjacency.

>>159413497
My districts go down based on looks.

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how do you folks expand in stellaris?

I usually send my fleet around to discover planets while the science ship scans the first few buildable systems, then build 1-2 more science ships and send them all on the same route guarded by the fleet to scan all systems with habitable planets and go from there

any tips or oversights?

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Surely a patch is coming soon, right? More negative reviews and feedback are coming in and it seems like more people are going back to CIV5.

>>159413947
>playing the most boring space game that exists
do you suffer from severe braindamage or something?

>>159414041
Stellaris is top tier what drugs are you on.

>>159414118
>top tier
>find best type of shit quickly
>spam that shit ad infinitum
>steamroll all other empires
>win

hands down the most boring, uninteresting mid and endgame in and grand strategy or 4X game i EVER played. Its just one huge blob of the same shiptype, rightclicked on something and done.

Diplomacy doesnt exist, so does commerce or any kind of trading.

>>159414017
>check the top negative review
>cons: happiness. The empire wide system in civ 5 worked, this one not so much

Yeah i dont give a rats ass what these retards think. Global happiness was a mistake.

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>>159414208
you only have yourself to blame if you absolutely need to min/max every game

>>159414208
try to do that on insane and tell me how it goes anon

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I'm no expert at Civ, but isn't this absolutely fucking ridiculous? I can't think of a starting bonus better than these

>>159414208
Sounds like you play just to play and not enjoy it as a RP.

>>159414358
One word: Scythia

>>159414315
how the fuck is it min maxing? should i actually make useless ships just for not the sake of it? I just research and build what the game gives me to build.

>>159414343
>giving the AI tons of boni so they develop 10times faster sure fixes the game and makes it sooooo deep!!!

>>159414358
It's probably the second best and only because >>159414456
Scythia is on a whole other league of overpowered.

>>159414484
>i min max and steam roll shit
>i dont want to beef up the ai so it can handle my min maxing

Name my religion pls

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>>159414653
Reism

>>159414653
Benis

>>159414653
imafag

>>159414653
memetics

>>159414653
Ebola

>>159414653
Coal miner's wife

>>159414653
all of this is fake

>>159414653
4 says House of Memes

>>159414653
Judaism

>>159414653
pigs

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>>159415031

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>start on an arctic world
>arctic colonization pops up in my society research

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>>159409219
I'm sorry but your comment put this image in my mind and I felt compelled to draw it. It's shit.

I just downloaded the Vox Populi mod for Civ5 and am totally lost. Being forced to build more early military is great though.

Is tall still better than wide? Food still prioritised over everything else? What are some good city settle timings?

Why is culture so fucking useless?

Two questions.

First, are the dangerous techs in Stellaris worth researching?

Secondly, if you research sentient AI, but don't build any androids, will anything happen to you?

>>159416274
>First, are the dangerous techs in Stellaris worth researching?
Usually, yes. They might trigger an endgame crisis, but unless you're rushing like crazy you can deal with them. The gains usually outweigh the possible disadvantages.

>Secondly, if you research sentient AI, but don't build any androids, will anything happen to you?
No. AI only gets dangerous once you get the final upgrade to build Synthetics, and even then you can just give them citizien rights and be pretty safe. But it's no gurantee. If another empire builds tons of Synths and treats them like shit until they trigger a crisis your Synths will rebel, too.

>>159416553
Nice. Thanks.

I've only had the non-research crisis happen to me so far.

>>159414653
kekism

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Going to war soon and setting my glorious empire up into a fascist govt. Noticed Martial Law and Propaganda giving the same 25% bonus. Are they additive or multiplicative?

>>159416798
I'd guess additive

>>159389485
Let's not forgget how good is the civilopedia :^)

>Try to find the differences between the two nukes because the only thing i saw was a cost difference
>Shit something must make one better than the other for that difference of turns and shit
>Civilopedia tells me the same shit the create UI tells me.

Fuck the nigger who made the civilopedia

>>159416798
>Fascism
>Liberalism

Zesty memes /leftypol/

>>159414653
A'tuinism

>hills
>grassland
>forest
>spices

God, starts like this make me so hard.

>>159418546
Why in american liberalism is the same thing as libertariatardism and leftism? Here on the rest of the world liberalism means less government and more freeduns. Liberalism and fascim is still retarded

>>159418768
My joke was based exactly on the non-USA definition of the term lad

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what's an effective way to get new species into my synth empire in stellaris?
by war and cede planet?
I usually enjoy the hell out of covert infiltration
Is it valid to win a war against an empire and force it into being my vassal and then integrate them?

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ok my fellow Stellaris players, what would you choose to fix to make the game better?
Diplomacy needs a massive fix, if you are in a federation AI's will always vote NO for whatever you want to do, be it war with someone obviously weaker or inviting other races into the federation, especially when they are weaker. It's like AI doesn't see benefit in amassing many small empires in the federation to boost the overall strenght.
Next thing would be war politics, i am steamrolling the AI burning all his planets to ashes while his fleet is nothing but debris so i decide to ask him to surrender earlier:
>HAHA YOU ARE LOSING THIS WAR FAGGOT I WILL NEVER SURRENDER
Or even protectorate/vassalisation stuff.
AI is 1-2 planet stain inside my fuckhuge empire so i decide to be nice and vassalise them:
>NO WAY FUCK OFF FREEDOM AND SHIT YOU ARE WEAK
which also follows with insults from them, it's like they wish to die instead of follow politics logic.
Another thing would be a way to somehow boost chances of certain end-game crisis' to happen because after 100 hours of play i have never seen anything else than Unbidden which is total faggotry.
My personal wish is to be able to play as full Synth race or something with set style of play for the RP purposes.
For minor fix maybe more planet/space events or stuff akin to the Leviathans DLC. It actually made stuff a bit more interesting

>>159418860
Cede planet, you get everything on it so the pops become yours too.

so we can all agree that civ 6 is by far the worst civ of all time right

>>159419426
2nd worst after alpha centauri

>>159419426
you mistyped best

>>159404717

dude weed lmao

>started playing Stellaris again lately
>last game I got the Cybrex Precursor Event
>finish it, kind of neat, but want to see what the others are like
>new game with a different race, get Cybrex again
>and again
>and again
>and again

Holy fucking shit, why?

>>159419167
good diplomacy is probably highest priority for me
ability to build a tall empire is another comfy addition, right now even if you tech up massively you need to expand a certain amount just to have the raw fleet size to hold your territories
non militaristic ways to deal with certain crisis would be fun too, a way to lure the swam away or to create a virus or something to kill off the ai rebellion
a gods playground type of map where every empire is a fallen emprie could be fun but something like this is probably bottom of the list and exists as a mod
for your synth race there is a mod that lets you play as robots

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>from tribal villages you can get a heal or an XP bonus for your scout/military unit
>or +1 to your fucking population
>you can get a technology eureka
>you can get a small faith or gold bonus
>or a motherfucking free scout/builder/trader
What's with the ridiculous rng-based bonuses in this game

>>159420152
>he doesn't count in RNG into his plays

do you even hearthstone?

>>159419903
i also forgot to add, they really should make alternative win conditions, we literally have only one right now

cant believe im asking this but

any of you faggots stream civ6? the ones on top side of twitch are fucking awful

>>159420371
I mean RNG is fine and I get why it's present in a casual game like Civ, but the difference between rewards is absolutely insane.

>>159421119
What's wrong with baba?
Haven't really watched him play civ6, but he was good at 5.

>>159421231
most of them are passive faggots with shit knowledge and no prior research on the game who gets their dicks sucked ingame by their viewers so naturally they win

its just fucking boring

>>159419167
It's not even about the AI in diplomacy, it's about the system they made. You have a very hard time freeing yourself from vassalage, ending wars, fixing things, making demands etc. It's stupid that in the year 3500 you can't say "hey sorry alien empire, I kinda like this planed I ocupied after I declared war, so i'm keeping it". And th etroubling thing is that most of this shit isn't that hard to fix/make.

>>159419808
>get the "first league" chain
>5/6 artifacts
>surveyed the whole galaxy
>5/6 artifacts
>found the fucking derelict ring world
>5/6 artifacts
I don't even know anything anymore

>>159421324
plenty of games in civ5 where babas been going for domination.
chariot archer, crossbow, berserker, artillery are different unit pushes I've seen.

>>159422240

Or you finish the event chain but still keep getting Precursor artifact popups.

>>159422635
im watching him simming now
so much fun

such based))

>tfw Harald is the only leader I like
>tfw his bonuses are shit

>>159422775
>im watching him simming now
So?

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How do we make Norway not shit?

Maybe give them bonuses and incentives for exploration?

>>159422978
Make it a mix between a tundra-liking, expansive nation like Russia and a colonial civilization like Spain/England

>>159422978
something similar to wayfarer that polynesia had in civ v maybe

>>159423365
bonus to tundra tiles that are adjacent to water tiles

>>159381590
This sounds like a good thing then, if 5 and 6 are similar, to have one that's more suited for each playstyle. So people who prefer playing Tall should play V, and those who prefer playing Wide should play VI. Would still be nice if they were able to balance it so that both are exactly equally viable, but I guess that's too difficult for the devs.

>>159422775

Go watch his France vod if you want to see war spam.

any way to get rid of fanatic xenophobes?
should I just nuke their planets into tomb worlds?

>>159419167
Covert ops, like special units to go and kill criminals from your empire, or events where you need to kill off scientists that are working on doomsday weapons, Demi gods , meaning creatures that can travel through space without space ships. Iredeemable type of units, if they're so far ahead in tech they could make themselves be gods.
If future AI has the potential to advance knowledge 20k years in a single week, given proper algorithms, why couldn't it or a select few of their race have god like powers.