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First for fish.
Second for japan only fish
Is he damaged? Are the memes a cry for help?
only good Darius
What is the most dadcore shmup?
>>159358229
garegga
>>159358229
rtype
>>159358254
Yes he is!
If they already announced the 30th anniversary PS4 game why is there still a countdown?
>>159359345
Wrong image, here's the more recent one.
Is there a guide anywhere for all the break bonuses in BR?
ded fish
>>159358229
1942
Where is everyone? It truly is a dead general.
recommend a shmup noov a cute em up thanks
>>159370695
I'm here,but won't be for long because bedtime.
>>159370812
The Cotton series
>>159371270
any particular one to start with or do i just try them out in order
>>159371874I've never played them, so just start in order I guess. The first one doesnt look that bad anyway
>>159372212
okay will do, thanks
>>159370695
I fade in and out. I've been playing Deathsmiles a lot these past few days, so tonight I'm taking off and streaming something else to relax with.
I have noticed the general being a bit less active lately, though. I wonder why that is...
10m never
>>159364383
this, dads love it here. Garegga appeal to similar people who like modern shmups
noob here, how long did it take for you to consider yourself decent at shmups?
>>159376803
6 months.
>>159376803
I dont know, a couple months?
>>159377196
>>159376851
less time than I expected. I've been practicing for a few weeks. Got time to go.
>>159370695
Work sucks
>>159370812
QP Shooting Dangerous or Witchbot Meglilo
>>159376803
>>159376803
I've been playing for 3 years and still know I'm not decent at shmups.
>>159376803
You'll never be decent at shmups. Perhaps can become decent at 1 or 2 games, but being decent at many games is only possible for japanese superplayers.
>>159379989
What about gaymers?
>>159376803
6 months full shmup 10-20 hours a week.
>>159374515
probably all b&
>>159376803
>decent
A year into shmups I can get quick 1cc's in different games (takes me a few days if I'm taking it halfway seriously) and do easy scoring. I consider it slow.
>>159374515
Too busy with political shenanigans to post on here, played some CCWI for distraction though. Made it to stage 5 with Type III. 1cc maybe after Thursday.
>>159357801
there's nothing more laughable than playing 20 year old dead and irrelevant kusoges
>>159381931
1cc collecting =/= decent
>>159386037
Decent was originally conceived as being less than good, which was conceived as being less than excellent/outstanding. We need to go deeper.
>>159386157
If you don't have a CAVE WR you're just trash.
Is the Wild Snail a good plane for beginners? Or should I practice with Gain?
Gain seems to have some weird movement, it feels like theres a lot of input lag. Is it okay to use shmupmame 4.2 for Garegga?
>>159386542
bow down to gus
Can someone explain Ketsui first loop scoring to me like I'm in kindergarten?
Is the idea to point blank popcorn right before finishing the bigger guys so it chains the 5 medal status onto them?
>>159386660
>console modes
>relevant
If you don't have a CAVE arcade WR you're just trash.
>>159386831
1.01 isn't technically a console mode senpai
PCBs were made but never sold
>>159386831
nice bailout
at this point you could claim that this meme is primarily used by arcadiafags to deflect the responsibility of rimming gus's asshole for having a console cave wr
>>159387243
Multiple westies have console CAVE WRs. Nobody good cares about anything but arcade games.
>>159388165
Post you're Touhou WRs
>>159388165
probably because arcadia doesn't track (the almost nonexistent) arcades outside of japan, so you can neither play in most cases nor get "officially" recognised in any case
these westies as you say should be celebrated, what are their names?
>>159388497
Check the console modes for Pink Sweets, Muchi Muchi Pork, Akai Katana and such.
>>159388682
spooky tbqh, so many unknown heroes...
>>159390087
It's because only arcade games matter.
>>159386770
I have a video with a lot of annotations explaining it, it might help you out. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MA4KeIxyzEU
>>159390760
This is all so fucking arbitrary and needlessly complicated, it's like CAVE just hacked a bunch of random shit together with zero conscious design and let people figure out how to optimize it.
Remind me why people like this game again?
>>159391387
it's a meme game
>>159386542
>>159386660
>>159386831
>>159390087
Iconoclast had an arcade SDOJ WR for a while.
>>159391769
sauce?
>a westy reached the highest level
>>159390760
How much of this was actually intended by the developers?
I feel like I'm watching a pannenkoek video
>>159392201
On mobile now, can't bother linking. Search sdoj thread on the farm
>fucked up a run over the most stupid shit because I'm a fucking shit player who still can't beat a game after practicing it an entire year
>chimp pout and smash my laptop like a fucking ape
>hard drive starts clicking
>lost a ton of important personal files and years worth of ebin 4chan images because I'm too poor to afford backup
I don't even give a shit at this point if this is blogposting, it's about fucking time for me to off myself and leave shmups to more competent players.
It's been real.
>>159393383
wut gam
>>159393383
Everything is going to be okay!
>>159393383
Is it Ketsui?
>>159393383
I knew that evaposter is never to be trusted.
I love shoop-da-whoopups! My favorites are DooDooPocky Moesushimesamom and Battle Garage.
>>159393383
>>159393383
I've been there. At least from my experience the real problem isn't the game, you're irritable and beat down from other life stuff and it ends up being taken out on video games.
I hope you feel better anon, I have definitely broken shit over shmups before and I can pretty safely say you're probably a better shmup player than I am
I used to hate Psikyos but they've been growing on me
Too bad they emulate with lag and they need more frame perfect precision than most shmups
>>159393383
chillax bro it's just a game lol
I want a Garegga copy for my Saturn.
>>159399637
Literally why? The PS4 version will be 1000000000000000000000000000000000x better
Was stage design a meme all along?
Thanks for the games metrid.
>>159400779
ggggssss, sleep tight trap snail.
>>159400538
that's actually exactly how good games work
>>159400305
I don't have a PS4 and I don't care about the arrange mode. The additional info's on screen are pretty cool though.
>>159393383
This is why people should stream
>>159401657
t.cagar
>>159400538
>>159401785
The PS4 version will be a perfect port meanwhile the Saturn one isn't
PS4 or PCB only way to play
>>159406747
>PS4
>>159406747
PS4 doesn't have the power to be arcade perfect.
>>159408504
isn't there an option to remove input lag? if so, rev.2016 will be better than the arcade version
>>159393383
>>chimp pout and smash my laptop like a fucking ape
>>hard drive starts clicking
>>lost a ton of important personal files and years worth of ebin 4chan images
t. Hilary clinton
>>159374515
>I have noticed the general being a bit less active lately, though. I wonder why that is...
Because i haven't been here for a whilst and i got banned and you can't rely on the retards here to ever start a conversation. I've also been grinding guwange fairly hard top get 50 mil which is proving extremely difficult.
>>159408504
That's stupid as hell claim.
Garegga PCB lags. PS4 port will be better than even PCB. Much like ESPGaluda and DOJ PS2 are better than their PCBs.
M2 is knowing what they are doing.
>>159408504
THe pcb of garegga is banned from scoring something that the ps4 version will fix along with less lag.
>>159409738
Ay senpai, could you explain Guwange's mechanics to me so that I can make your score look inadequate sooner?
>>159410308
Sure what area are you struggling with? and which charatcer yu using?
>>159410373
I'm using the yellow ghostbuster.
I'd like a run-down on everything the game contains in terms of mechanics so that I know what I should be paying attention to. Can you also tell me what the first thing I should be learning is?
>>159410609
Read through this for a start
http://world-of-arcades.net/Cave/Guwange/mode7/index.htm
Each character plays slightly different, you need to get an intricate knowledge of stage layout and focus on positioning yourself smartly during each step to use your shiki more efficiently and with less danger. Knowing when you use shot instead of shiki to farm coins is important. The very first thing to learn is trying to get 1000 coins by the mid of stage 1 which is achieved by smart positioning and cancels, then you can get much more from the flocking bats etc. Get ready to be supremely annoyed by cat spider and for that i would recommend starting with the 3 cycle plan ie dodging 2 bombing the 3rd and forcing him to the final cycle.
Who the fuck is the yellow ghostbuster?
>>159374779
i played 1942 for 4 hours and don't know how people 1cc it, it's very repetitive, i couldn't even watch an hour long 1cc replay that was speed-up.
>DFK scoring contest had results announced same day as the end date for the contest
>Deathsmiles scoring contest ended about 17 hours ago and still no word on who won or even acknowledgment that it ended
I wonder if something's wrong.
>>159410960
Thanks for the link and tips. I'll start with learning shiki strats and enemy placement in stage 1. It's probably going to take a while before I get a decent score but I'm not in a rush or anything so whatever
Gensuke is the yellow ghostbuster because that's what his in-game sprite reminds me of
>>159411724
It will take a long time but stick with it and yes for a time the game will frustrate you massively which is mainly down to becoming more competent with the concept of controlling 2 things at once, it's a multi tasking masterpiece. Keep me updated on progress and ask any questions, the more specific they're the more I can help. Gensuke btw has a piercing shot unlike the others this is utilizable in afew particular areas namely the final stretch of 3, parts of 4, mid 2 and the rooftop ambush mid 5, look to keep your skull meter above half way then use shot for gainz. Another tip is stage 1/2 with gensuke and i guess milking cat spider can be a little more awkward due to his shot frequency being lower than the others but with more power however his shiki moves faster than others and covers a mid sized stretch. Final thing if you get to stuck i'l make an inp for you showing a stage 1/2/3 route etc.
>>159411532
Degica's staff are too busy getting pissed off at Elixir for publicly calling the Steam ports shitty, and making updates of excuses on Steam about why the ports have issues, to even begin to worry about their own "scoring contests".
what did they mean by this?
wooow, i never get it before
>>159413561
>wooow, i never get it before
I think you meant to link a picture of a female.
I really hope that anniversary editions comes in the west, i would happily pay 120€ for everything it has, specially having the games on a disc instead on digital only like Dariusburst.
>>159412932
I was thinking something more along the lines of, say... Degica looked at the Deathsmiles leaderboards after the contest ended and realized for the first time that they have no way of knowing which entries were submitted within the contest period, and now they don't know what to do.
(Download the replays from the leaderboard and check the date on them in the replay viewer, you're welcome presumed Degica lurker)
Or maybe it is just that thing you said. Either way.
new gradius game when
>>159413939
>that anniversary edition
It's a shitty port of Darius (1) and 6 soundtrack CDs.
>>159412932
>Degica's staff are too busy getting pissed off at Elixir for publicly calling the Steam ports shitty
??????
>>159415807
This, why would anyone pay attention to that annoying overtly nerdcore hyper cunt?
>>159411532
I won a few and they always took up to 1-2 weeks to respond, Degica employees probably don't work on weekends and it's a single guy managing the contests on the side.
>>159386602
I'm not expert but I don't think Gain is good for beginners. Most people use Golden Bat for a clear (Hover over Wild Snail and wait for the timer to run out) but Bananamatic reccomended Miyamoto (You have to use the code to unlock him)
>>159420489
>but Bananamatic reccomended Miyamoto
That retard would but for beginners Miyamoto and Gain have the same issue ie fast snappy control speed.
Don't die while I'm sleeping /shmupg/
>>159413709
females are easier to score than shmups tho
>>159423403
I'm trying to hide, but the bullets keep finding me...
>>159415807
https://twitter.com/Elixir68k/status/787329327868157952
https://twitter.com/Elixir68k/status/789553459112452096
Mentions how BL Arrange has lots of slowdown/Arrange A has crashing/Deathsmiles MBL still needs fixing/whatever else. Apparently, Degica didn't like that and some shit went down. Soon after, the Steam page of DDPR was updated with this: http://steamcommunity.com/games/464450/announcements/detail/775010563089816764
The "word from Degica" is apparently a result of this.
>>159415883
Because he owns the shmups twitter/discord/does shmup news exclusively/knows Japanese/knows a ton of people that work in the genre. Obviously developers/publishers don't want people with a large audience of a specific genre saying bad things about them.
I dont get it, will the 30th anniversay edition of Darius only have the original Darius? The rest are just OSTs? I wouldnt mind if it was a remake, but if not they could fit at least up to G-Darius in one disc easily
>>159424109
>Looks like Degica doesn't approve of my views of CAVE's PC ports. Even though I still have western WR in Mushi and played it a ton. Awkward.
>western WR
>>159424329
It's just the original Darius yeah, but I think it's because it never had a port from arcade it's a big deal to Taito.
>>159424704
What a bummer, im sure they could fit in ports of Darius games up to G-Darius easily
I give up on CCWI. i will never clear this game. The difficulty in it is just ridiculous.
>>159425368
don't give up
>>159424109
>Obviously developers/publishers don't want people with a large audience of a specific genre saying bad things about them.
Well i have some great advice for them then, STOP PUTTING OUT FAULTY PRODUCTS.
>>159425863
Well, I already got into the top ten anyway, so it's not so bad. I just don't have any nerve to play anymore, because it's just fucking annoying when you still can't clear the game even after 350 hours playtime. No idea what the dev was thinking there...
>>159425368
You can do it, kraut. Jesus though is it really that bad? I always assumed it was about on par with a Ketsui 1-ALL or something
>>159426065
Perhaps I just suck too much, but I find the difficulty just RIDICULOUS. I give up on this game. It makes no fun anymore.
>>159424365
>>western WR
Jesus lmfao never a greater attempt at over stating your achievement has ever been witnessed. What a stupid clit.
>>159426030
>can't clear the game even after 350 hours of restarting stage 1
ur stupid
stop scoring before clearing the game, that time you spent restarting stage 1 is better spent practicing later stages.
>>159426065
he has literal autism
>>159426140
>Perhaps I just suck too much
Defo you're a complete fail.
>>159426186
>stop scoring before clearing the game, that time you spent restarting stage 1 is better spent practicing later stages.
Do you think I never practiced later stages too?
And that I am scoring has absolutely nothing to do with this.
>>159426238
Whatever you say... Anyway, why am I even still posting here, no idea... goodbye
>>159425368
Don't give up.
>>159426346
>Do you think I never practiced later stages too?
no, but you probably practiced first stage the most.
>And that I am scoring has absolutely nothing to do with this.
scoring is why you can't clear it after 350 hours but got in top 10
>>159426346
>Anyway, why am I even still posting here, no idea... goodbye
Yeah until an hrs time you dipshit, if i had a pound for everytime you pretended you were leaving i'd have enough to fund cave to fix their shit ports.
>>159426486
>no, but you probably practiced first stage the most.
Doesn't change that I practiced later stages for umpteens of hours too.
>scoring is why you can't clear it after 350 hours but got in top 10
I don't even score that much, you dumbfuck. I don't even have half of the WR, for fucks sake. My score is basically ridiculous. And the parts where I mostly die, I play for survival anyway.
>>159426657
>I don't even have half of the WR, for fucks sake.
I barely have half the guwange wr but you won't see me crying you know why? Because i actually find fun is playing the game something you should try instead of striving to be some leet gam0r.
>Doesn't change that I practiced later stages for umpteens of hours too.
if you practiced them more you'd do it
>I don't even score that much, you dumbfuck.
>is in top 10
>My score is basically ridiculous
you win a hat
>>159426782
>said I stop playing the game because it makes no fun anymore
>hurr you don't play for fun, only for e-fame
>>159426839
>if you practiced them more you'd do it
I already practiced them enough. It gets really annoying after a while.
>is in top 10
As if this would mean anything on a fucking steam leaderboard. The game is dead as fuck.
I also got barely half of the WR in Battle Garegga, but I didn't have to play the game for 350 hours and actually could clear it. Yet CCWI is at least twice as hard, and I don't even play on unlimited.
>>159428530
Yeah good luck defending yourself krauty when your rants have made it perfectly clear you are obsessed with being a l33t playorzzz validated by how little you help anyone and shit on lesser players.
>>159425368
instead of outright quitting you should just not play the game for like a month and play other games
at least i do make little progress in crs 68k even though i play it about once in 2 weeks
also what is the farthest you have gotten in the game
>>159428925
>your rants have made it perfectly clear you are obsessed with being a l33t playorzzz
My rants are merely about how annoying it is when a game is too difficult. What does this have to do with wanting to be a top player? In contrary, if I wanted to be a top player, I'd never say a game is too difficult.
>validated by how little you help anyone and shit on lesser players
How do you even wanna know if I helped anyone? I gave often tips in this thread or on twitch to other CCWI players. Stop talking bullshit. I also never talked down on "lesser" players. Are you retarded? In contrary, I constantly said that I actually am still a shit player myself...
>>159429265
Oh right, thought you was leaving?
>>159429187
>instead of outright quitting you should just not play the game for like a month and play other games
This wouldn't help much, when the game is too difficult. Not playing doesn't make the game any easier.
>also what is the farthest you have gotten in the game
I once almost beat the stage 5 boss with him only having a pixel of health left. And for the Ex boss I probably would need another 3 extends more to survive this.
>>159429459
I am leaving don't worry. I don't usually post here anymore anyway, only lurking.
>>159429715
Yeh yeh whatever madolf shitler, see you here tomorrow.
>>159428865
scoring in ccwi is hard becouse it was designed to be interesting to pros, just getting 1cc is not that hard with type z.
>I already practiced them enough.
not enough if you can't clear it
>It gets really annoying after a while.
take a break, no need to drop the game
>>159429616
i once got this far but because i have only seen vids and never practiced the tlb itself i didnt know what to do and died like a noob
>>159429616
>Not playing doesn't make the game any easier.
but it does. most people do much better when the game is still interesting, fresh. and in order to get that feeling of freshnes you need to take a break, though i'm not sure if it applies to people with autism(i'm not making fun, i seriously think you have autism).
Is mushihimesama a good game to start if you're new to shmups?
I am the guardian of this swamp!
>>159432832
Yep, for me it was.
Try to clear Original first (fug stage 3) and then Maniac. Good luck!
>>159432832
Yes it's fine, but the scoring system in original is pretty shit. Seems like 1.5 fixes that but I've barely touched it so I can't comment on it much
>>159433373
>the scoring system in original is pretty shit
What scoring system? Shoot fuckers, collect gems. That's pretty much it.
>try to turn my crt
>colors turn green
fuck. what to do, playing vertical bullet hells on tv is hard becouse of blur.
>>159436221
That's the problem, there is nothing to it. Makes playing the first 2 levels really tedious if you're shit at the genre
>>159436783
Well, I would think if you were new to the genre your focus would probably be on learning how to actually play the game rather than the intricacies of the usual CAVE scoring system. Not sure why that would lead to tedium.
>>159436881
Good scoring systems make the process of learning less tedious because there's stuff you can optimize even after playing the easiest levels for hours. Mushihimesama original level 1 and 2 get so damn boring and there is nothing you can do about it since the scoring's so simple
>>159437097
Eh, okay. I guess I can see your point of view. So wouldn't the cure for this problem, at least in Mushi's case, be to play Blue Label as your first title as opposed to the original version?
>>159436297
It's because of heat, turn it when it's cold before you fire it up.
>>159437243
I mean I've already gotten that 1cc a while ago I'm just saying that from my perspective as a noob playing it, the simple scoring system in the original release was an annoyance. But yeah by the looks of it 1.5 fixes that
>>159436783
>Makes playing the first 2 levels really tedious if you're shit at the genre
The second level is one of the ones you can optimize most for score via rotuing.
>>159437545
Oh, I know you're not the new guy asking for advice, I'm just throwing stuff out there.
The only drawback IMHO to picking 1.5 first is that your scoring system in 1.5 Original is based on being able to reliably and safely pointblank enemies. This isn't exactly a beginner friendly skill to learn.
>>159436783
>if you're shit at the genre
if you're shit the whole game is going to be tedious as you grind it over and over. if you can't clear forget worrying about scoring.
>>159436783
dude nanabush milking
>>159437993
>if you can't clear forget worrying about scoring.
Is this a meme or does somebody actually play like this, can't imagine ignoring scoring for like 20-100 hours
>>159439123
i try to clear garegga without scoring
>>159439637
according icarus it's actually harder without scoring though
Did /shmupg/ play Kid Icarus Uprising?
>>159439941
Kid Icarus is a shmup?
>>159440132
You shoot em up
On that note, is Afterburner a shmup?
>>159440438
Yeah fuck it why not
>>159440483
is doing heroin a shmup?
>>159442570
Wrong type of shooting anon.
>>159440438
Sure. And FTL, Issac, and Darkest Dungeon are all roguelikes, too. Hope this helps!
>>159443076
dang
>>159433043
Thanks think I'll be practicing stage 3 for a long time!
>>159439123
for mushi original you better no miss that shit if you want a good score so yes it's important
>>159413561
Where are all the cool shmups like this instead of stupid weeb shit
>>159445267
That is stupid weeb shit.
>>159445267
Don't worry bro the PC master race got your back stop playing weeb garbage for children and play manly western shmups
>>159445951
Fucking this. I just got pic related on Steam a couple of days ago. From some company called CAVE. (Their company name is an American word so you know they're western devs.) Game is fucking awesome. The rest of you pathetic little faggots need to stop playing this weeb shit and try a real shooter.
Whoooo
>>159439941
I did. It's a good game but I kinda blame it for my L button wearing out on my old 3DS.
>>159446561
Doesn't really work when the screenshot has huge black moonrunes like that.
>>159449884
>moonrunes
>he doesn't read canadian
Non-American detected.
>>159445951
>>159446561
Both weeb as fuck. Weebs love waves of bullets like the retards they are but would piss their pants at that volcano because it requires thinking. The game even stops scrolling as if to say stop retard and that's what weebs need to be. Stopped.
>>159450746
Okay, champ. You're trying too hard at this point. Let's just get back on topic.
>>159451259
Tits are gross.
>>159451662
That's not true.
>>159390760
great video, ty
>>159437375
thanks! that's probably it, becouse it's really close to the heater. guess i should move it away.
using pause is ok?
I did it /shmupg/!
>>159458845
cool
>>159458845
nice
>>159437993
Why don't you just try Type-Z? after all you cleared garegga with a good survival ship too, after that you can focus better on scoring.
ok, which one of you jokesters told me Battle Garegga is an easy entry level shmup?
>>159473572
It is though.
>>159432928
>>159450746>>159413561
i guess stoping to fight a volcano that is about to erupt is pretty manly indeed.
>>159487890
>>159489035
Who is the weird guy before the to be continued screen in Deathsmiles MBL?
>>159489983
Satan Claws, the antagonist of Deathsmiles 2. I don't actually have a picture of him.
>>159490447
>Satan Claws
>>159490447
What's with Deathsmiles and Satan? Did he gave Cave the kickstarter money to insert his name into the game twice?
>>159490447
What are the canon endings based on the DS2 story?
It's a fish night for anyone wanting to watch someone play.
twitch tv/plastichydra
>>159491541
Also if anyone wants to request a route, fell free to do so.
>>159491117
Go away Nagatoro.
>>159491149
The theme of demonic enemies, I guess. Tyrannosatan was supposed to be the ruler of Hell, so like, Satan himself or something. Satan Claws is probably just because Deathsmiles 2 is Christmas themed and Satan is an anagram of Santa.
>>159491389
You mean of Deathsmiles 1's endings? All four of the angels' staying endings are the canon ones, since they're all still around two months later. Sakura's canon ending seems to be a mix of her staying ending and secret ending. She befriends the angels and I assume her mother's illness was cured since she appears out and about in some of the Deathsmiles 2 endings.
>>159492961Harry, join us and watch this comfy stream.>>159491541
What are some shmups I can play that have great stories. Not looking for a touhou game.
>>159494064
Hellsinker
>>159458845
Good job, anon!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ugcz6vxEjpI
>>159498461
>same graphic
I'd play it for story though
Great Thing will haunt your dreams if you don't reply to this post.
>>159501354
I can't take the risk.
>>159491541
Stream's over, thanks everyone who stepped in.
>>159501354
Dumb Great Thing poster
>>159501354
pork time on softdrink stream now
https://www.twitch tv/katase0448
JP player playing Donpachi and DOJBL
https://www.twitch tv/qsd_7
another one, playing high level DFK BL
Looks like japanese streamers are slowly migrating from nico to twitch
blue revolver
>cool, ganoo / loonix support! maybe I'll buy this one and-
>no cards
>no achieves
>no -25% discount on launch
>no discount at all during hell loween
>no cute fanart, wallpapers, lewds and shit of the characters
>no scoreboard
Boop
>>159511170
Why isn't the big blue ship dying?
sleepu
>>159502551
what's that from?
>>159517124
ghost in the shell
the original movie iirc
What is it about Crimzon Clover that makes it impossible not to die to stupid shit over and over and over again?
All I can do is reach stage 5 and flop dead!
>>159518652
use bombs, some places impossible to dodge
>>159458845
>tfw cant beat stage 4
>>159518709
Do you get the items that reset bombs afterwards, or do you go for star items regardless?
what is Star Soldier wr?
>>159487890
Why is she so beautiful?
>>159513827
blue revolver really that bad?
>>159521610
these are secondary stuff, the game itself is acceptable
>>159521192
>she
)
>clear the game
>forgot enter your initials
CCWI is really rubbing it in that I don't know the next thing about dodging. Feels like you have to be 100% sure of every movement you make, and I can't read fast enough for that especially on the TLB.
>maybe I shouldn't be playing Type III
Who is the more redpilled shmupper: Gus or Cee?
>>159527440
>>159527440
both are retarded but cee less so
>>159527440
Futari Ultra 1.5 counterstops at 3,999,999,999 points--half the game it could be. A tragic oversight--Trump will fix! #MakeShinjuForestGreatAgain
>>159531952
>voting a jewcuck makes you redpilled now
>>159532046
you'll rouse the chav with this, just be quiet
We're going to make shmups great again!
>>159532627
blue revolver already made shmups great for the first time ever
>>159517124
Thanks, thought it looked familiar!
>>159516010
Because Sand Scorpion is proof of a cruel and angry god.
>>159531952
>Futari Ultra 1.5 counterstops at 3,999,999,999--half the game it could be. Ikeda refuses to handle--but I will fix! #MakeCaveGreatAgain
Now this sounds like a Trump tweet
Post your Trump-styled shmup memes
pls no
How to make shmupmame recognize DOJ BL?
>>159539552
install gentoo
>>159539552
rename ddb_1dot.u45 to ddb10.u45
I can't stop playing 1.51
>>159541440
Doesn't seem like it did anything, still doesn't show up. What do I need for it, just ddpdoj and ddpdojblk?
>>159542893
dl ddpdoj and ddpdojblk from gametronik,works fine with shmupmame 4.2
maybe you'll need a pgm bios (I'm not sure about it, it's been a long time)
>play one credit of Arcade Original with Type Z now that I've unlocked it
>gameover just before the TLB because I was doing stupid things like dying to st1 boss' first batch of bullets
I-I'm going back to Type III.
>>159543125
No luck, still not showing up in the GUI and selecting manually just gives me the missing roms error. Guess I'll just play it on regular MAME since it works fine there
>>159545263
Just download the pack in the OP, it works fine with that
>>159544280
>using the ez mode god ship
shamefur dispray
>>159545336
Oh nice, works like a charm now, thanks anon. Seems like I had to have both ddb_1dot.u45 and ddb10.u45 instead of just renaming
>>159545903
Survival in Arcade Original is a joke anyway... I could see why Kraut hates it. I'm naturally retarded so I'm already taking multiple days to clear it; using Type Z on top of it all would be just low.
>>159513827
http://bluerevolvergame.com/patchnotes/
Cards are already in. Achieves in later this week.
>>159533501
Shh. The contrarian hipster kiddos are looking for a reason to hate whatever's popular. Let's see if we can get BR to fly under their radar.
>>159546784
The early levels are a joke, but from stage 4 mid-boss onwards it's getting pretty rough, even if you play for survival.
>>159549543
Were you not here right after Blue Revolver's release?
>>159549746
I was not, no. Were the kiddos really mad?
>>159549543
>unironically shilling poo revolver
>>159550110
>people who like things are shills
>i'm literally a meme
>smash dat liek button if u up rite nao 100
What?
>>159549714
I need more experience with that part of the game, as I've only been past the stage 4 midboss three or four times. Practiced the TLB for hours but only no-miss'd once--how reasonable is the expectation?
>>159549543
>thinking my ironic sarcastic meme post was serious
LOL poo revolver sucks
Blue Revolver is GOTY! Black Label when?
>>159551146
Sounds unreasonable to me. CCWI looks easy for survival at first, but the later stages can be a real nightmare, and you also pretty much always make some dumb mistakes in the early stages for some reason.
>>159554293
I see. That sounds about right to me.
>playing ketsui
>get trough level 3 with no bombs or deaths
>die 3 times in a row in stage 4 because i was kind of unfocused
>>159555392
You can do it! Just keep trying!
On a scale of Deathsmiles to DOJ WL, how hard is an Espgaluda 1cc?
>>159555528
i did manage to make routes of some sort for stage 1 and 2 today and im pretty sure i could get to stage 5 if i can keep myself from dying to stupid mistakes
>>159555121
I think what makes the game so difficult is, that it is really meant to be played for score, while still being a CAVE style game. This means, that when you don't play for score (and dodge without dodging), you will have dodge, but the ship speeds (constant mix between super fast and super slow) and bullet patterns are not like in Cave, and often not really meant to be dodged through.
That's why you easily make stupid mistakes in the game I think.
>>159556946
>3DPD
>>159555956
DS [_____|__] DOJ WL (1-all)
>>159556946
>NES controller phone case
>>159555956
Deathsmiles MBL 999 isn't far away on the list.
>>159555956
Somewhere in the middle, it's like 10 times harder than a shitty bare minimum Deathsmiles clear.
>>159556778
I'd recommend it to a beginner nonetheless, but only if you are sure that he is of the autismal variety that specifically enjoys things like Tetris TGM and would enjoy Treasure shmups, and also probably isn't into girly shit. Basically if he sees 'shooting' as the selling point of a shooting game and has the intelligence to delve into the puzzle aspect.
If nothing else CCWI at least exposes the player the 'right' mentality of scoring, as everything in the gameplay seems to suggest optimisation and thoughtful routing, much unlike Touhou which was made for survival clears first, which 95% of people do.
>>159560985
>autismal variety that specifically enjoys things like Tetris TGM and would enjoy Treasure shmups, and also probably isn't into girly shit
You're retarded
>>159561246
As I've always been sadly.
Is /shmupg/ okay?
http://steamcommunity.com/app/285440/discussions/0/312265672109426005/
>just another thing wrong with windows 10
Shooting.... gay...
>>159569048
> /shmupg/
>Ever okay
>>159569048
It's a dead general. What do you expect?
>>159576887
I expected shooting games! And not the Goldeneye kind either!
>>159570378
>falling for the windows meme
I bet you like poo revolver, too.
what can i do to break 100m in ds
>>159578913
Which character
>>159578420
It's a million times worse than the fucking poo revolver. I just need windows to play Overwatch. Respect my fetishes, anon.
How do I score 10 million points in Xevious?
>>159580060
rosa
How do I score 800m in DDP?
>>159580440
its pretty easy as long as there isnt input lag
>>159580440
It's a secret!
>>159580253
Hmm well for starters, finishing the game with all five lives in stock will grant like 30m points alone, so being able to do that will make things significantly easier.
Learning the Volcano recharge can really help, you should be able to get ~40m points from that alone, or maybe about 20m without it. So be sure you're using power up to milk points from the rock spawns in Volcano. Here's a video demonstrating the Volcano recharge, you might be able to do it by practicing what this guy does. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-iK38Zd3h-4
With Rosa, her laser shot is extremely powerful, so while you're in power up mode, you're gonna want to position her familiar so that its big shots hit the enemy but Rosa's laser doesn't. That way, you can milk more point items out of enemies before they explode. Remember to let point items break up while you're in power up mode before you collect them.
https://www.twitch tv/gunnerstg
high level progia no arashi
>>159581224
>finishing the game with all five lives in stock will grant like 30m points alone
i didn't know it was worth so much, i've made no effort to fight tyrannosatan and just bomb spam him until he dies
Does the PS2 Classic version of Gradius V have any noticeable input delay?
>>159582423
if you are banana yes but he drives faster than he can see due to lag in his eyes.
>>159581817
That's one way to go about it. What I like to do is to start the Tyrannosatan fight with 4 or 5 lives, spam bombs at the very start, and then suicide to refill the bomb stock before collecting Jitterbug's cake to fill the lives back up to full as well. Just let Jitterbug's cake float around on its own, avoid collecting it until after you suicide.
And yeah, I think every life you have left over upon clearing is worth like 6m points each.
>>159458845now get to the TLB
>>159582996
>>159582996
that is a nice strat i didn't know it would float for that long
>>159584985
It floats long enough to get three bombs off and suicide. However I don't think it'll last much longer than that, so grab it quickly after the death.
>>159588738
Live, dammit
>look up 1cc on youtube to get through the hard part
>the player has no route whatsoever and just dodges everything
why was i born so inferior
>>159597305
but at least i'm 95% sure he plays with auto which makes dodging much, much easier(at least for me). still feels inferior becouse i made neat survival route through the first half of the level and he just doesn't give a fuck.
>try Type Z for practicing TLB
>beat him no miss, no bomb, no break
>tfw just wasted luck of the century on a gay shot type in practice
>>159597305
>>159598052
wut game
>>159598526DONPACHI!
>>159598606
why don't you enable the internal autofire, nothhing wrong with using it
>>159599567
i had no idea there is one. thanks.
>>159597112Stream, dammit
>>159604243
Oh, but I would have to finish Super Mario 64 if I streamed, and thatsounds awful because I hate almost every level on the third and fourth floorsespecially Tick Tock Cock
ok does anyone else have ap robleim with g darius on shmupmame where the music doesnt come out but the other sounds do
>>159605641
No because I justemulate it for ps1
>>159605801
smart
>>159599567
are you sure it's internal? becouse it says
>autofire can't be enabled
if you mean autofire in shmupmame, not in game then vidrelated
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nCmRBQBqdtY
>>159610617
Hold F2 and enable it, all Cave games from that era have C autofire (except for esp rade i think)
>>159610892
i keep forgetting about f2 menu. that worked, thanks.
>>159609371
Well, it's less being smart and more being too lazy to try getting it to work in mame.
I'm hungry, /shmupg/.
>>159613480
for diapers? Harry you pedo.
>>159614368
No, no that.
Shumps!
I'm burnt out on unli, guess I'll be back to original
It's so much easier to dodge with auto in every game, but it feels like cheating.
>>159616829
can we go rounder?
>>159620952
no one cares
>>159620952
stop finding excuses
i wanna beat this shit
>>159620952
what is auto and why does it making dodging easier
and it is cheating
>>159622862
rude. just bumping
>>159623262
b-but everybody does it!
i can't no-miss that stupid stage 4 in donpachi even with autofire on, the first three levels are pathetically easy in comparison, it's a worse difficulty spike than stage 3 in CCWI.
and i'm playing a simplified version of the game for ameritards.
>>159625038
>i can't no-miss that stupid stage 4
Da fuck? Try having a plan you absolute retarded mongo. It does the same shit everytime you play for fuck sake.
>>159627240
>Try having a plan you absolute retarded mongo
the worst thing is that i do have a route, at least for the first half, but i keep failing to execute different parts of it and constantly fly into bullets, the stage is just too long for my mongrel brain to concentrate long enough. i've already posted here that someone on youtube can beat that stage without any route whatsoever, just on reflex. i think i made a pretty good progress today, but such difficulty spike is still frustrating.
In real life you might have to walk to the arcade in the winter cold. If you don't put your hands in a bucket of ice for a few minutes before playing a shmup, you're cheating and your scores don't count
>>159628806
>implying every shmup cabinet in japan(the only place that matters) doesn't have a long ass line 24/7.
you should stand still for half an hour and stare in someone's back or ur cheating.
Shmupgeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
W A R N I N G !
A HUGE WAIFU
SS CASPER
IS APPRAOCHING FAST
fucking hell, what's wrong with gradius arcade
>>159628116
The only bit that's hard is if you use blue ship at the boss. Doesn't armchair general lurk here? ask him he knows the game very well.
>>159633470
What do you mean?
>>159634127
is too hard for me
>>159634015
i just bomb through the boss, 2-3 bombs is enough. my problem are some places where you fly above black giant ship and those 3 huge ships after it, i can't dodge their pattern for some reason, it seems so random. i don't think i need help though, i'll figure it out eventually.
at least i finally got to stage 5, played for almost 3 hours today, which is a lot for me.
So i beat proms score and got the new western record in guwange today lads. First in west for 50mill get.
>>159636323
>mame
>>159635898
>almost 3 hours today, which is a lot for me
No wonder you're so bad.
>>159636695
Prom used mame to so we are competing on the same platform, good effort though. Let me know when you get a top 20 score by even farm standards lmao.
>>159636945
i don't like this game, why i should play this?
>>159637095
You shouldn't if you don't like it.
Who are western record holder in CCWI?
>>159636323
Not bad senpai.
You planing on uploading that run to the shmup channel?
>>159637413
Aye il send to him this evening, the fucking tlb is proper shit though, a mix of nerves and atrocious rng saved only by having a great game. " mill off my optimal pb spider but got nearly every health item at full health which then adds to coin tally. It's always weird how I put like 6 hours into runs yesterday (sunday is my rest/shmup day) and got nada then this happens on my first run of the day.
>>159637565
>" mill
2 mill
>>159636323
>western record
>mame
just lmao my shit up senpai
A score is a score, you cant say it's only a half.
>MAME
HAHAHAHUWHUAWHFAUWFHAWUH
>>159638693
it's just a joke
>>159636695
>>159637706
>>159638693
Why are you forcing this so hard?
desu >mame is the weakest memes shmupg has come up with.
>>159639556
I agree, saying ">mame, >mame" over and over again makes you sound like a chicken, you don't want to sound like a chicken do you?
>>159639015
>Why are you forcing this so hard?
Do you really need to ask? Because he/she's a childish retard that can't play worth a shit and they have low wit so legitimately think repeating the same shite over and over again is somehow amusing. It's almost as dead as the chav meme or the relentless waifu posts.
>>159639556
t. mame player
>>159640019
t. chav who uses mame
>>159640596
fine wine of trolling, keep going lad you're a real talent.
>>159635898
Use the aura for stage 4 anon, you can destroy planes from the sides
also be a man and play Donpachi jp
>>159636323
Gute Arbeit, Kamerad.
>>159640596
Honestly anon I wouldnt mind it as much if you at least tried to spice it up a bit, but just repeating the same thing isnt gonna get you far in the meme world.
Still working on Ketsui
>>159644384
If you're gonna blogpost at least do an actual progress report instead of this vague shit
>>159605641
G.Darius' music never worked in MAME as far as I know. It might in the latest version, but definitely not in any shmupmame release.
If you want to play it with music you'll probably have to go for a console port.
The PS2 version is the one most people go for. It's a port of the arcade version.
The PS1 version has more features but a fuckton of slowdown unless you enable CPU overclocking in your emulator, like you can in mednafen.
>>159641854
danke
>>159641537
It isn't trolling, it's absolutely correct.
>>159640596
Agreed.
>>159644703
>>159636323
congrats, are your going to push forward?
>>159640019
who's the worst between anti-mame memer and anti-auto memer?
is he the same person?
why is he so SHIT at shmups?
does he even have a PCB collection?
so many questions.
>>159650096
Dumb dariusposter
>>159652970
>congrats, are your going to push forward?
Yes eventually but for now i want to push guwange blue as far as i can either way i'm not even remotely burnt out on guwange and can't see myself being so for a long long time. I may divert to get the advanced batrider clear with carpet as i got so close before i started this game but we'll see.
>>159652024
I have shitish routing that would comfortably see you to 45 mill somewhere in 3 if you want any help?
>>159653285
>is he the same person?
I reckon it is, some proper sad act sniffing his smegma stained fingers on one hand whilst typing with the other.
>does he even have a PCB collection?
The mark of every shit player.
I started practicing DOJ WL today (A/Shotia), aiming for a 1all; wish me luck!
>>159556946
What a fucking huge hitbox
>>159654135
>>159654018
>I have shitish routing that would comfortably see you to 45 mill somewhere in 3 if you want any help?
That would be good, thanks
>>159653870
Dumb dumbposter
>>159654135
GL
>>159654135
lol you cant
>>159655209
Don't be a meanie!!
What are some games where I can turn fish into sushi besides darius?
current stg streams:
https://www.twitch tv/komeijisatori
^ chinese Galaga bootleg
https://www.twitch tv/neo_antwon
^ Mahou
>>159654314
Have you watched existing plays? I actually used bananafaggiolas a bit when i was playing, these are basically decent stable routes you can copy/trial n error from that don't involve all the tech leet player empty lock bullshit.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VBdLuFMW9s8
Still no word on the Deathsmiles contest. Dammit Degica, just tell me I lost already so I can abandon the last bit of hope I have for winning.
>>159621637
Wh-what the heck is that supposed to mean?!
>>159631951
Hmm, it doesn't look much like Casper though aside from the sleeve.
>>159654135
pic related (amazing, I forgot the pic)
>>159657762
>it doesn't look much like Casper though
That's because it's not finished yet of course.
>>159657762
degica can't afford to send prizes
>>159657724
>Have you watched existing plays?
Not enough for anything to stick in my head, getting the 2nd extend early on will help a lot though
>>159658412
Ok well use the one i shared as a reference and begin building a route based on what you see, copy it and rectify any trouble spots to suit your preference, pay attention to shot vs lock on use as this is the key to raising that score.
uuu, CCWI is impossible. Can't even dodge anything anymore. Yotsubane is a sadist.
I want to sit on the throne.
bullshit rng
Windia!
>tfw just bet a tenner on Trump to win and too nervous to play shmups
rate my score
Reco voted today! #GrabLarsaByThePussy
>>159667647
Gus, pls go
>>159667631
Hmmm, 43% of an A score.
Soo.. 4/10. You should work on getting at least a 5/10!
>>159667631
oh, i really want to clear garegga, but still play some random shmups without perspective for 1cc/scoring
>>159667272
i put 25 quid on him last week with good odds
>>159670054
I got the £30 of free bets off PaddyPower as well, so if he wins I get £140 profit
>>159670209
ahh nice i went with william hill online, if he wins il get 125 prof
>>159670209
Although i'l add money aside i do hope he wins for geopolitical harmony reasons.
People in foreign countries place wagers on our presidential elections?! ... That's pretty cool.
>>159637186
http://shmups.system11.org/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=38524
ctrl f crimzon
>>159671453
well the UK is not just any old country, we are very much historically tied with our trans atlantic cousins.
>>159672347
Lmao the west truely sucks
what's going on here
>>159668205
I was just experimenting with a low rank clear to see how doable it was, rank was pretty low by the end so it's not a bad option for those who want an easy clear with no scoring
>>159672548
everyone played it before the superplays came out for monkeys to copy and were too busy with better games to go back after
>>159673920
>better games to go back after
you mean old as fuck games which already have way more superplays than CC? makes sense...
>>159653870
Don't say that! Darius has arisen once more to become the saviour of shmups!
Reminder.
>>159677835
lol
doodoopoopoopeepee
>>159672347
>Original - Type I
>World: ネーブルちゃん - 9,441,893,225,080
What a monster!
Average 8-9 Trillion, even some of them with no-miss...
Don't die on me.
We need discussion ASAP! Everyone, pitch your favorite shmup to the crowd as best you can! And I mean with actual points of interest and persuasive reasoning, not the /v/-style "shilling" or company bias.I'll do it next time when this thread is inevitably dying again in an hour.
>>159672548
the problem is that iconoclast is a filthy casual and similarly no one else is worthy
>>159682710
shmup memes: the post
>>159693027
It's already freeware.
Stream please
almost woke up in the middle of the night, pupmed ass fuck ready to fite, but ended up sleeping for 12 hours, rate.
>>159699435
>>159699575
>>159699880
>>159700090
>>159700169
>>159700213
>>159700301
>>159700313
>>159700375
>>159641690
>also be a man and play Donpachi jp
i'll play it sooner or later after clearing this one, i'm very new to shmups, you gotta start somewhere. at least the retarded amount of bombs teaches me to use them, i'm usually too stingy with them.
>>159700381
>>159700513
>>159700486
Better to bomb then die.
DEAD GENERAL
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F-fucking hell, guys...
What is this sudden (ancient) barrage of Darius images?
If you keep this up I won't have any new images to post!
>>159700585
>bomb
>die becouse no bombs left
everytiem
>>159702052
I just wanted to save more Ti2 pics, is that so wrong?
>>159701951
I'd contribute more but my posts usually get me mean responses.
>>159702639
What posts would those be?
>>159702709
I'm the anon trying to clear CCWI with Type III, so the posts you can identify as mine.
I beat the TLB again in practice with Type Z without bombs, breaks or misses on my first try - seriously thinking of just playing Type Z.
>>159702603
Well no, she's a real cutie. Especially when she's got long hair. And she's cool! As a representation of the series, and the planet Darius, its inhabitants and their will to live should be!
>>159703016
Well I cant offer you advice, but I can offer you motivational pictures.You should stick to Type lll desu, the other types deserve some love too.
>>159703464That isn't me.
>>159703464
>>159703761Or are you just adding desu to your sentences now? Because that isn't me.
>>159703837
t b h autocorrects to desu.
You baka.
>>159703905That's what I was thinking, but I can't always be sure.
>>159703963
You're thinking too hard about this, go to sleep already desu desu.
>>159704346was that t b h desu or desu t b h?
>>159704567The first one
>>159703464
I unconsciously freestyle a lot as I get too impatient / unfocused to follow a route, and that gets me snipe-killed very easily due to the nature of CCWI. I hope I can gather myself and restrain the urge to go off route long enough to get the clear. I think that it is completely reasonable for me to no-miss the game until s5 boss.I worry about the election too much.
>You should stick to Type lll desu, the other types deserve some love too.
I love Type III. Dodging requires no forethought because you can zap across the pattern to reach any gap you can see at once. I tried Type I but it felt sluggishly slow, so that didn't last.
sleepu.
>>159705401
Sleep tight snails
>>159705624
You too, you have class tomorrow.
>>159703837
>>159703905
>>159703963
And I thought I was paranoid.
Bumpaaa
The Deathsmiles scoring contest results are finally in and it looks like I placed 3rd. Looks like no artbook for me, but oh well. Hooray for the fact that I managed to place at all!
>>159693272
>iconoclast is a filthy casual
>>>159391769
explain.
>>159709489
I wonder if he's consciously dodgning the washing machine or if it's at least 50% random zig zags.
Nice use of the hyper cancels btw.
>>159711691
Congrats! Where the other 2 Japanese?
>>159712184
Not him, but I feel like Iconoclast could be a much better STG player if he actually put some time into it. When you look at his channel, he only plays Ninja Gaiden and other stuff.
The score he achieved in CCWI in such a shirt time was amazing, but he barely played the game, and could have been much better if he kept playing it.
>>159713508
Thanks, and yeah they were Japanese. Both Follett players too.
>>159711691
You did your best.
is it okay to not shoot through certain patterns in donpachi? i don't know if it's the fault of the game, but when i shoot it's really hard to judge the direction of bullets, to the point where i can't dodge certain patterns at all, but there is no problem when i don't fire. and man dodging without hitbox visible is hard.
>>159715263
>and man dodging without hitbox visible is hard.
It isn't you just train your eye to the hitbox and draw imaginary line in your mind, unfortunately the visible hitbox meme raised a gen of faggots.
>is it okay to not shoot through certain patterns in donpachi? i don't know if it's the fault of the game, but when i shoot it's really hard to judge the direction of bullets, to the point where i can't dodge certain patterns at all
Where in the game?
>>159717823
it's hard to keep in mind where the hitbox is becouse type c ship is fuckhuge.
>Where in the game?
https://youtu.be/rISrG3NULnY?t=16m14s
it's easier for me to deal with the first ship by just dodging and then bombing them both when the second one appears on screen. i usually don't have problems with such patterns, but the invisible hitbox + fuckhuge ship makes it hard to wiggle between bullets.
https://youtu.be/rISrG3NULnY?t=17m36s
also this moment, he bombs through it though.
>>159718642
The second bit is genuinely annoying with blue ship cus slow speed, the first though you should stop trying to micro dodge as if you have ketsuis hitbox because you don't look more to going around instead of through.
What's the best survival ship/type in DOJ?
>>159713587
>When you look at his channel, he only plays Ninja Gaiden and other stuff.
poor him enjoying video games
>>159711691
Still cool, congratulations!
>>159713587
He's still playing DOJWL Type-B regularly, mostly training and pushing his limits with risky as fuck routing.
>>159722526
Type-A Exy is the most balanced and poweful ship. Then Type-B Exy but its a bit slow so you'll need precise routes.
Keep in mind that a life lost with Shotia or Leynian will get your secondary weapon back to power level 1. If those dolls grant you more bombs, they'll also require more bombing because of their weakness, especially Shotia.
>>159713587
He's not someone who just plays shmups exclusively. He's also really good at other games too, check out his youtube channel. I think expecting anyone to stick to the genre is hilariously unrealistic, even Jaimers doesn't.
>>159725621
>Keep in mind that a life lost with Shotia or Leynian will get your secondary weapon back to power level 1
Goddamn that's pretty rough. Thanks for the info anon, much appreciated.
DOJBL TYPE-B 2-ALL with a nice score, starting at 22:30
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2gp7IhdQL98
mecha anime is best and shmups!
>>159711691
since you already own everything you should see if you can get a different game from their catalog. if not take a ddpr code you can trade it for something since it is rare and expensive.
>>159725897
most japanese superplayers play stgs exclusively
and they also actually put time into the games they play instead of just going for 1ccs
noone in the west does this so they also suck of course
>saved all lives for last stage
>died on half of way
this strategy not works, when only bullshit rng knows, how should be your run
>>159729995
>most japanese superplayers play stgs exclusively
This is such a fucking myth.
>>159730365
no its not
>>159730927
yes it is, even sps plays some gay phone game thing
>>159732524
who the fuck is sps?
i am talking about actual superplayers
>>159732623
>who the fuck is sps?
>i am talking about actual superplayers
>>159732623
lol
WTN plays Minesweeper arcade version
TAC plays TGM
SPS plays Puyo Puyo
and so on
>>159734920
>TAC plays TGM
yes, but that's also the only game he plays from time to time
people like iconoclast play all kind of games the whole time
go stalk some high level stg jp players on twitter, they all spend their fucking life on Gothic Mahou, Kancolle or random rythm games.
>>159734920
KBR plays Skyrim
>>159732623
I like you.
>>159736225
KBR is the hero that the Western superplayer scene deserves, but not one that it needs.
crimzon clover is literally check out my cave mixtape: the fangame
>>159742784
where is the slowdown then
>>159743328
might as well ask about input lag while you're at it
or the waifus
>>159742784
No, it's Cave done right.
>>159742784
I'd like to see you do better.
>>159742784
thats not how you spell rng bullshit
>>159744123
blue revolver
>>159732623
>who the fuck is sps?
Oh just some amateur who does live kusoplays of ketsui, you should watch to lol at him... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0w6m9SE0ikY
>>159744737
A one-trick pony huh? probably doesn't even have a WR huh?
Reached the Open loop of DFK after a terrible stage 5
Died at the stage 1 boss
>>159744948
Omote WR with both ships.
Ura WR with Type-A.
He also had DOJWL Type-B WR until fufufu beat him few months ago.
But you already know that right? lol I don't even know why I reply to one-trick memer.
New Darius game for PS4/PC when? The compilation doesn't count.
>>159730365
>>159732524
This. Spending a little bit of time playing other games isn't such a big deal. Of course if you want to get good you should spend the majority of your time with STG, especially focusing on a small number of games.
Just don't quit after 2 years, which is what a lot of western players do.
Average Japanese superplayer
How can the West even compete?
>>159751126
It's not a compilation. It's Darius 1 with a bunch of soundtracks.
But yes, a new Darius would be great!
I mean, DBCS is rather new, but it is a port of a +5-year-old arcade version of a PSP game. And it's a great game, but they were obviously on a tight budget. All the boss arenas consist of swirlling [random colour] clouds in the background and nothing else, which is a bit boring. And some of the stages look rather uninspired too. The modernised aesthetic is very neat though. So it can be a bit of a mixed bag visually, and in that respect it can't compete with G and Gaiden, or any other Darius game, because they always looked gorgeous.
But on the other hand the music is absolutely fantastic!
So a new Darius with the production values it used to have before the millennium would be amazing!
>>159753267
>>159753252
by using a longsword
>>159754402
BTFO
I want to ______ Great Thing
>>159754402
If katana is arcade stick and longsword is keyboard, then what does that make the gamepad?
>>159751443
>Spending a little bit of time playing other games isn't such a big deal.
We were talking about Iconoclast though, who constantly plays other games.
Just no-missed CCWI up to stage 4 boss with a really nice score again, only to lose all my lives trying to milk it...
Milking this boss is pure hell. I can practice this as much as I want, it's impossible.
>>159758768
A pocket knife.
>>159756737
no miss
Just tried Night Raid for PSX. Unless the emulation is inaccurate the shmups difficulty chart is misleading, it's still very hard to 1cc even if you keep staying on the upper left corner. It doesn't work on bosses!
>>159763296
>tfw too anxious about the election to play shmups
>>159764027
Your 1CCs and scores literally matter more than the election, so go play shmups!
Wow DOJ level 4 is rough. Really put me in my place after I got cocky because of the tame level 3
>>159764447
In due time, but today we're making tomorrow. It's more fun in the game.
>>159762293
try Giga Wing, not very hard for 1cc
>>159765823
Yeah I see a lot of runs die there and on the second loop of it also.
>>159766685
>everything after the 1 up in loop 2
Any of you played this?
>>159758768
a gun nigguh
>page 10
guys don't forget about shmups
we're going to need them after the election is over
>>159774859
I'm too tense to shmup
Is ti2 or Asuka best girl? You can only choose one.
Wish I could vote for... I dunno... Gus maybe! But then again I'm not even American.
Make shmups great again!Oh wait, Darius is already doing that!
>>159776686
Rei.
>>159775145
me too anon, me too
the least we can do is pray that no greater hardship will come
>>159776686
Ti2 of course!
I wonder what the name means. I mean, I think that it's probably supposed to be a Taito reference, like "Tai-Two"? But I'm not sure...
>>159776931
I agree, this was pointed at one person in particular, but yes I agree.
>>159776686
>>159776931
i watched the entirety of NGE and didn't see the appeal of either asuka or rei for that matter, they are both severely mentally ill
but, Asuka. she's hot anyway and she fits the mood
>>159768536
I'd played it if not for its complicated shot skill moves.
>>159776686
I dont know, Ti2 is pretty cute but Asuka has much more reaction image potential.Cant I just choose both?
>>159777589
WellRei isn't even a real person I think, right?
And Asuka might be mentally ill, but it's not that bad. I mean, mental illness IS awful, but a lot of people are fucked-up and don't even realise it, and neither does anyone else, because aat this point it's almost "normal" to have some sort of emotional baggage or personality disorder that negatively influences your social life and judgment and shit. It's also "normal" to just keep it inside and not open up about it, so that makes it doubly worse.Or maybe all of this is just me projecting...
>when most of your score comes from lives left and you die
>>159778568>Rei isn't even a real person I think, right?
rude
desu it's impossible to win as casper and follett
>>159778542No.
>>159777931
>complicated shot skill moves
I'm afraid I have no clue what you're talking about. Did you mean the Methods? They're not very complicated.
>>159780047
You need to use special moves like in fighting games. That's uncomfortable especially with keyboard.
>>159779310
>>159780350
Which is why they added the delay field. And only one move needs diagonal input. It takes all of ten minutes to get used to inputting them.
>>159776686
cirnoalso who is metrid?
Metrid get in the hitbox.
>>159729549
Yeah, I guess I might as well. Or something.
>>159779306
Eh?
>>159787329
Reiberal?
>>159787498
fuck off fatti
all this election shit everywhere is annoying as fuck
>>159788129
It'll be done with in a day or two. Chill. Let 4chan celebrate. You don't have a big thing like this happen everyday.
>>159788996
t. fatti
I want a Great Thing plush now
>>159788996
One day saving the Western civilization, another day back to setting new high scores. It's a livin'.
It's been an honor, fellow anonymous of /pol/.
Wakey wakey.
>>159793831
Is it over yet?
shooting gemu~!
Would you shoot this geimu?
>>159795937
Unlikely.
>>159793831
>Wakey wakey.
And what a glorious day it is, how is everybody?
>>159798217
Someone's quite happy eh?
>>159799436
Not to shabby, spent the morning absorbing the tirade of tears and hilarious hipocrisy as the defeated far left liberals prove to the world just how deep there "tolerance" goes by mass sperging out, threatening violence and calling everybody who thinks different stupid. It's nothing short of spectacular and a beginning to the end of this cancerous SJW bullshit which has thwarted educational institutions purpose of furthering intellectual curiosity and challenging the minds of developing adults.
>>159798217
>how is everybody?
Doing fucking excellent here in burgerland, absolutely fucking excellent.
>>159800814
Enjoy it brother it's a great time and to see Putin congratulate Trump and already put forward a plan to fix the tensions with the u.s.a was a great thing for the sake of the world. The incoming salt storm will keep you entertained for a couple years.
>>159800814
did jamal took a day off from doing your waifu?
What's a good vertical bullet hell with more focus on dodging than shooting?
>>159803676
dunno border down, satazius, gradius games and maybe zed blade?
>>159803921
Those are horizontal
>>159804112
Oh sorry i read horizontal for some reason, probs sleep deprivation.
>>159803676
Ikaruga!
Radiant Shekelstein!
>>159803676
>>159806048
Ikaruga isn't a shmup or "bullet hell", I would think of it more like a puzzle game.
>>159803676Touhou 8
>>159806959I already play that
>>159806048
I'd eat it
>>159806685
>Ikaruga
>about SHOOTING precision like no SHOOTING game
>IT'S NOT A SHMUP IT'S A PUZZLE GAME
>CAVE
>about dodging like no other shmup
>IT'S THE PINNACLE OF SHOOTING GAMES
>>159808657
How many CAVE games can be beaten without shooting? Refresh my memory
>>159808926
Giga Wings 2 also can be beaten without shooting. It's still a shmup though. It just gives you the option to do "pacifist" playthroughs too, just like Gradius games also could be played for a huge part without shooting.
>>159809445
So what you're saying is that shooting is optional in this shooting game?
>>159808657
Cave games require you to kill enemies quickly before they fire too many shots, else they will fill the screen. I don't know how that isn't a focus on shooting, but okay.
>>159809580
Ikaruga can also be done pacifist, guess it isn't a shooting game either.
>>159809580
Yes. If this doesn't make it a shooting game anymore, then it also doesn't make it a puzzle game anymore. It's basically a Cave game then, because it becomes about dodging.
>>159809795
>dodging
I care for this, what's a good caveshit?
>>159809795
>It's basically a Cave game then, because it becomes about dodging
No since you won't get anywhere without shooting in those games
>>159809606
Cave games merely require you to hold down the shot button, that's it. You need zero shooting skills for these games, merely dodging skills.
>>159809903
Holding down the shot button has nothing to do with shooting games.
>>159809906
I see you haven't played any of Cave's games seriously, then. The fault is with you. Every DoDonPachi game requires you to time your shots to link chains, Ketsui requires you to time kills to get good emptylocks, Espgaluda you need to let the screen fill before you cancel bullets into items, Progear you need to keep jewel value up by cancelling bullets, and then kill enemies in such a way they cancel bullets into said jewels. Even Dangun Feveron you'll need to switch which shot you're using.
>>159810018
>having to shoot has nothing to do with shooting games
Epic
>>159810058
>I see you haven't played any of Cave's games seriously, then
I'm in the top ten of CCWI, which is heavily inspired by Cave. To 1cc this game, you need zero shooting skills, merely dodging skills and holding down the shot button.
>Every DoDonPachi game requires you to time your shots to link chains
That's only when you play for score. And playing Ikaruga for score still requires way more shooting skills. Even for score, Cave is still mainly about dodging.
>>159810278
>To 1cc this game, you need zero shooting skills, merely dodging skills and holding down the shot button.
No wonder you still can't 1cc it after over 300 hours of playtime lmao
>>159810350
The reason I haven't 1cced it yet, is because playing it for survival is boring as fuck. Just like Ikaruga is boring to play for survival. It's very similar to Ikaruga in this regard.
Come back when you played the game for score, then we can talk again, because anything else is redundant anyway in these games.
If you merely judge a game by how it feels when playing for survival, then this only shows that you are just a fucking noob in this genre.
>>159810497
What happened to you saying that scoring isn't responsible for you fucking up survival then?
>>159810564
I have changed my mind. You guys were right. If I wouldn't constantly practice scoring in this game, I would be much farther with survival. Just yesterday, The last 2 days I practiced nothing but milking stage 4 boss. No wonder that I don't get better at survival then.
>>159810697
Most tsundere poster in this general
>>159810278
>Even for score, Cave is still mainly about dodging.
I don't think that's the case with Deathsmiles at least. It took me quite a while to get the timing down to consistently do the scoring tricks. It's more about option positioning and timing your shots/using the right shot in the right situations.
>>159811702
Deathsmiles is CAVE's methodical masterpiece tho
>>159811794
>CAVE's methodical masterpiece
That's Futari Ultra
>>159811891
>Vertically scrolling
>No environmental hazards
No it's danmaku trash, stop trying to pervert well established definitions
>>159811702
Option shields are a form of dodging, just like the polarity shield in Ikaruga is a form of dodging.
>>159813214
Nah, I mean that is a thing, but it's not what I was referring to. The position of Casper's option determines which way the shot it fires will travel, whether it'll be clockwise or counter clockwise in its travel arc to boomerang back to her. It's actually rather difficult to explain just in text, but it can make a big difference when it comes to weakening enemies for timed kills.
>>159811702
shooting in death smiles by learning to control the familiars is a big part of the game
>>159816235
Anime has come to save the thread!
Is Guwange Cave's best game?
>>159803676
Maybe Psyvariar, never played it but it looks like a lot of grazing going on.
>>159819517
That's not Dangun Feveron
Just 3 more days /shmupg/
Post Clownpiece
>>159827935
>>159811891
>misspelling "God Mode"
>>159819517
>Is Guwange Cave's best game?
For me probably, the cat milking is dildos though.
>>159809876
DOJ. But like Clover-TAC said if you're dodging bullets then you're bad player.
>>159827652
f-for what?
>>159819517
nah it's a shit meme game to be desu
>>159832836
>>159832836
Has anyone ever seen Bananamatic not whining about something? Just curious because I never have.
>>159832626
found the pleb, what's the matter? can't master multi tasking masterpieces?
>>159833658
Anything involving SDOJ
>>159832836
>Which DoDonPachi Resurrection OST should we release 1st?
The one that plays at the proper speed.
ey wasn't there a shmupmame with cave games only? I remember having it a long time ago, it had the don pachis, deathsmiles and muchi muchi pork. Also, how do I get Radirgy working on this shmupmame, I want to play that without getting a dreamcast emulator.
Can someone please stream? (no Poohou pls)
>>159838761
I'm gonna delete this post, no mood to get into an argument when I'm starting to doubt the clarity of my language.
>>159839054
i read it, and you are right
touhou goes even further with the emphasis on dodging
...
>>159844437
....
This attack is frickin rng crap!
>>159845634
It's not too hard, plus it's pretty much mandatory to dodge if you want a good score.
>>159845974
By far the hardest part of the fight for me desu maybe I'm just retarded. Can't hyper either since I save it for the final attack
I became sad from lack of success with Type III, so I played a game with Type Z. Despite the stupid deaths as usual, I made it to the TLB, which I was going to no-miss as it was my last life, but then I accidentally used double break on the last phase. Christ.
>>159849118
for how many years do you have to play to almost beat this game so fast?
>>159849280
I've been playing shmups since last year's summer. Most of my playtime has been spent on casual Touhou. Steam says that I have 29 hours in Crimzon Clover.
>>159849669
>Steam says that I have 29 hours in Crimzon Clover.
based on your previous posts ii though that you just started playing. i'v been playing shmups for 6 month(mostly casualy too) and after 40 hours i'm nowhere near tlb with type z.
>>159850520
Touhou is just undeniably the superior learning tool
How in the fucking piss does one get good at this game.
>>159850520
I think I got that playtime over the course of this November... it's not much, I consider it just starting out.
>i'v been playing shmups for 6 month(mostly casualy too) and after 40 hours i'm nowhere near tlb with type z.
That screenshot >>159432343 is yours, right? Compare the score. It's a lot easier when you're reserving your breaks for defensive use, and even then I manage to die anyway... it makes me angry. I think I'll do more attempts with Type III.
>>159850884
420 graze it my nigga
>>159851207
I'm grazing as hard as I can but the last boss keeps cockblocking me. How the piss am I even going to SEE Gluon let alone fight him if I can't figure out some trick to make this easier.
>>159838035
>Poohou
>>159851020
>That screenshot >>159432343 is yours, right
i wish. like i said i'm nowhere near tlb. i haven't beaten even stage 3 yet, though that could be becouse in last 5 hours i've started trying to score to keep things interesting, but since i haven't played for nearly a month already i guess my plan failed.
>>159850759
well it could be, before ccwi i haven't played anything like it, only old shit like MUSHA and weird shit like vulkaiser.
>>159838035
Maybe when I get better at shmups so I can look cool 1ccing shit.
>>159852209
>i haven't beaten even stage 3 yet,
Well, that sounds odd. It's not a very difficult stage if you have your moves planned ahead. That's the theme with CCWI, I think - you need to have a detailed plan, that's what it teaches you. Scoring would especially help your skills develop. But only if you're into it all, of course.
in other news, at last reached the TLB with Type III after over 9000 hours of stage 1 restarts, and then died three times and gameovered before I could transition him to TLB2, even though I easily no-miss it in practice. I-I guess it's progress, I've never reached it before with Type III.
>>159845634
Stay at the center/bottom of the screen atfirst, then slowly move left when the pattern densifies and the dodging part really begins.
I recently found that it is way easier to dodge it if you stay at the very bottom of the screen, and just do lateral left-right moves in rythm with the pattern gaps.
You can also make little up-down moves like Prom here https://youtu.be/TL3Q6CR-WjM?t=14m18s bu that'll requires very accurate movement skills.
>>159810497
>That's only when you play for score. And playing Ikaruga for score still requires way more shooting skills. Even for score, Cave is still mainly about dodging.
>If you merely judge a game by how it feels when playing for survival, then this only shows that you are just a fucking noob in this genre.
lol
>>159857053
The person I replied to judged Ikaruga by survival, saying youwouldn't have to shoot, so I gave an example Cave survival, dipshit.
Next time actually try to follow the discussion, instead of just taking things out of context.
is it safe to talk about BLUE REVOLVER yet?
>>159857539
poo revolver LMAO xDxDDDD
>>159857539
Here's your answer I guess.
>>159857404
Well saying that "even for score, Cave is still mainly about dodging" does make you sound like a "fucking noob in this genre who merely judge[s] a game by how it feels when playing for survival".
High scoring in Cave games is more about consistence, precise routing and shooting accuracy (ie point-blanking, shoot types alternating, time killing ennemies and so on) than just plain dodging, which is pretty much limited to few random boss patterns.
Go read that TAC and Laos interview, or even better go play some Cave games at high level.
>>159857539
what's to say?
>>159857539
only played by shills and cave employees
this game is a spectacular joke, cave done absolutely right because it reflects neo-cave values in an ingenious fashion
What is babbys first danmaku?
The only shmup I ever played was R-Type
>>159862841
>What is babbys first danmaku?
batsuguns a good one.
Well, I clearly didn't expected that.
>>159864520
I also didn't expected to forget the fucking pic.
>>159862841
the touhou games are unironically good!
played mushi maniac today and it went pretty good even tho last time i played this game at all was like 6 months ago and i havent played maniac more than 3 times total
>>159867296
why dont you resize the game window to fit the screen?
>>159867814
>>159867296
And use a background without a stupid fucking anime girl on
>>159868056
calm down grandpa, think of your blood pressure
Any good shmups like the touhou ones? I gave Ikaruga a try but I can't rally call this a good bullet hell
>>159868161
I was born in the 90s, but I appreciate CLASSIC shmups like BATTLE GAREGGA and GRADIUS.
Please god, can we swap Casper for Vic Viper? Like if you agree!
how can we make shmups great again?
>>159864605
Nice!
>>159868452
play them
>>159862489
>this game is a spectacular joke, cave done absolutely right because it reflects neo-cave values in an ingenious fashion
>>159856537
The thing that fucks me usually are the random overlapping patterns that pop up and it doesn't seem like there is any trick to it besides just reading the screen well. Staying on the bottom center/left does help a lot though
>>159832423
Until it's your birthday! How can you forget such an important date, stupid /shmupg/!
Is this any good? It looks Touhou-esque.
http://store.steampowered.com/app/367140
>>159860557
I play CCWI, smartass, and the shooting in it is pathetic compared to Ikaruka. It's still mainly about dodging.
>>159860557
Also, even Clover TAC said he doesn't see these games (Cave games) as shooting games, he rather sees them as puzzle games which are about finding out the right patterns to dodge.
don't give up
>>159868452
Vote for Icycalm
>>159868452
>how can we make shmups great again?
Disregard pcbs and make Mame the standard for all!
>>159876267
if trump won maybe i can win too
>>159868452
Remove casuals.
>>159879260
So all fans of bullethells.
>>159868242
Did you try Len'en yet
>>159885538
Not that anon but Len'en feels orders of magnitudes harded than 2hu because the shots are so fast it becomes very much about twitch reaction if you do not have it memorized. I feel I can usually handle 2hus in a casual way going in blind because of the (typically) slower speed which allows for survival if you can read the screen. Len'en throws some heinous shit at you at heinous speeds.
>>159886114
Actually, that's perfect for me.
I'm trying to play lunatic on 2hu now but the bullets are way faster than in hard.
How does 2hu Lunatic compare to CAVE games difficulty wise?
>>159887613
in terms of 1cc difficulty easier than most 1-alls I believe since they give so many ressources. The pattern difficulty can be similar though. Touhou patterns tend to be more random than cave
>>159871923
How long has it been again, a year?
Feels like it's been way longer than that.
is revolver 360 worth picking up on a sale?
>>159868267
>Please god, can we swap Casper for Vic Viper?
that's mean
>>159893001
Haven't you heard? We've got a new president now. ANIME GIRLS NOT WELCOME
Bump limit
>>159893318
Should we kick Windia out, then?
>>159893318
shmupge had a president?
>>159889061
It's gonna be a whole year of /shmupg/! I'm surprised we lasted this long. I suppose I've got to thanks all the recent Steam ports for that. Shmups got a bit of hype because of it