Carpet Muching, Princess Humping, Sword Twirling Dyke Edition
Shadowverse is a class-based collectible card game akin to Hearthstone. The Steam version launched on October 28th.
Platforms: iOS, Android, Steam (http://store.steampowered.com/app/453480/)
Official Website:
https://shadowverse.com/
Card Database / Deck Editor:
https://shadowverse-portal.com/
Intro Guide/FAQ:
http://pastebin.com/xNmQuDzR (read this if you're new)
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Ibw62rcFMrkvWl_KPKUuRC_0f7LbvwE27ubQ-EJo0oQ/edit?usp=sharing
Take 2 Card Rankings:
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Get your cheat sheets here: http://imgur.com/a/Dpbmh
Friend list:
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Banished: >>159291094
first for delicious snacks
>>159306525
I want to fuck ____
nth for birbs of smooth curves and face damage
Fourth for Vania is best girl
>>159306574
Vania
>>159306525
Tell me about the handmaiden, does she ever get her waifu and settle down in wedded bliss?
Sexy nuns.
STORY UPDATE WHEN? THIS IS LOSARIA RIGHT?
What's the best deck for lolis
Unbalanced piece of shit slut
>>159306665
>"Gasp"
Should I go with Bloodcraft or Shadowcraft? Which of these two has cuter cards?
And at which point do I get the enough cards to open packs and reroll? I'm at part 3 with Urias in the main story.
I just started playing this and why is the nun and the mage so fuckable
>running into the only control blood on the ladder
do you people really want to lose 20 games against storm haven fags just to win that 1 game against my ghetto midrange swordcraft deck?
>tfw so autismal I actually started keeping track
>>159306721
Cards - blood
Qt leader - shadowor alternative blood
>>159306525
How long is Shadowverse going to last?
>>159306662
wrong thread, poppo
>>159306837
If the next expansion and any balance patches don't massively fuck up then it should be fine for a while
If it manages to get popular on twitch and have bigger tournaments in places that aren't nipland then that would also be great
>>159306837
If the Western fanbase can survive the new Hearthstone expansion in a months time, then it should be fine
>>159306949
But it's already rather balanced.inb4 forestfag & havenfag Luna is my main
Is vampire queen good for a bat deck?
mfw everytime i lose is because the other guy drew the EXACT card he needed at the time, such as an Olivia denying me the win.... fuck this RNG
>>159307135
She's okay. Wouldn't craft her specifically for it unless you really like her, but if you have some laying around you can tech her in.
What's the best d-shift deck right now? Are the F&G memes worth looking into or are they worse than just 3 flame destroyers?
>>159307159
When you get a better deck you'll be doing the same
I'm nearly in C rank. Is it basically the same as D rank deck wise or should I start thinking about sandbagging? I won like 14 times in a row with a midranged sswordcraft deck I made, but that's all I have and I want to be able to do dailies.
Is this a boy or a girl though
>>159307308
More like slutcraft, am I right?
>>159307304
im runnin Mid range sword lmao but all i get is Elana users from japan being cunts and spamming so much heals that i cant even out dps the heals, they have every healing card in the game in it
>>159307308
Hips don't lie.
>>159307413
Read analysis on healcraft decks and what they say to watch out for. Then get that.
>>159306609
NO URIAS BULLYING
Control sworded to a 13-3 record at A0
Smashes anything that isn't fucking spellcraft. Outlasted an elana deck and all its minions
>>159307413
>mfw I'm one of them
>>159306650
It does look like her and she was kidnapped or some shit, right?
Is there any reason to hold on to card pack tickets?
>>159307719
Never
>>159307719
Legend Fests
2x draw rates usually at the end of the month
>>159307361
>Only two or three cards away from Storm Haven (Missing Moonlit Al'Miraj which doesn't seem like a necessity)
>Start playing it
This is fun
>>159307790
Jesus christ you're a terrible person
>>159307810
I love nuns but I don't really like how Havencraft plays.
>>159307758
>tfw can never keep flame mage lady up so I can keep clearing the 1/1 spam cause it's a 5 pp and everything's nuts from that and evo's
>>159307874
To me Haven will always be the true caster class unlike Runeslut
At least you have to take your time casting/summoning with Eris, Isabelle just slams runes on the boards and fishes for win condition with infinite draw works
>struggle against AI
>make memebanner deck
>absolutely obliterate elite AIs
Dayum, you guys weren't joking about that
>Roach has storm only after 2 cards were played
>Banner giving 1 attack when turn ends
>Only one purg damage tick/dim shift per turn, seraph can advance only once per turn
>Olivia recovers evolves next turn
>>159308035
That's because Runecraft is a combo class, Havencraft is more straightforward control.
Rune is UR
Haven is UW
>>159307874
The gameplay and the nuns are working for me
>>159308117
Oh, and Aria's falcon has rush and Garuda must choose between countdown and damage.
>>159307308
Its a futa
cant you see her giant sword
>>159308117
>doesn't talk about three d-shifts in a row
Salty runecraft player confirmed.
>>159308118
a combo class that has an answer to everything and infinite cycling
at least in HS combo classes got dicked by untargetable shit and complete removal, here she just wins by default against my control deck that has shit draws and even then she manages to use the kaleidoscopic bullshit to prevent me from any actions until turn 7 (if I'm lucky)
/blog
and yes, I know I shouldn't be bitching about Haven getting dicked
at least I don't lower myself to storm level
>>159308117
>Nerfing banner when it gets shat on in A and above
>Nerfing Olivia to make her useless in constructed
>Nerfing Seraph at all
The only thing that rightly needs a nerf is Tempo Elf and Elana Haven. This shit is getting out of hand.
>>159308274
>Baiting so hard
Or are you blind?
Luna's pink, swollen bean.
>>159308306
>a combo class that has an answer to everything and infinite cycling
Yep, sounds like Blue.
Also Storm Haven is fun you should try it.
>>159308401
I prefer her tight, rosy butthole.
>>159308392
aggro faggot detected
Is there an updated JP tier deck list somewhere? The only one I have is back from June.
Why does Runecraft only have a single viable deck
Why is Earth Rite so shit
Anyone wanna trade concede?
ID: 85017
>>159308410
I'm allergic to aggro decks, trying to make a legit skullfam deck but it doesn't look good
The potential for bullshit with 1-2 cost amulets @ 5 cd is immense however
>it's a "AI topdecks the exact card they needed when about to lose" episode
>it's a rerun
So the AI cheats, right?
>>159308274
>This fucking Doujin.
Simply the thumbnail gives me a raging hard-on
>>159308460
>a single viable deck
No.
nice game
salty japs: the game
So I got an animated Olivia from my first packs
I'm basically forced to use her now, right? What's a good place for her?
>>159308458
I don't get the point of this post. Tempo Elf and Elana shit on aggro, control and midrange.
>>159308460
>Love witches more than just about anything
>None of the Runecraft decks are any fun/any good
I just want to die. I want a deck based around witches and witchcraft.
How did I do? I don't really know anything about the game but Fairy Princess seems good. I have another card that reduces the cost of a fairy in my hand to 0. Are fairies any good as a tribe?
>tfw no winstreak bonus
>>159308460
ER is not top, but its not bad.
>>159308510
>>159308664
She is a meme combo with Rose Queen
>>159308496
Skullfane was never the same after they nerfed him.
>>159308594
Elana only shits on aggro if aggro draws poorly.
>>159308478
>Spectral wizard
>Draw 2 flame destroyers
I'd probably have conceded anyway that was insane
>>159308590
>Olivia in constructed
good luck trying to make her fit into any deck
>>159308664
Meme on people with Rose Queen. It's the deck I play most right now. It's fun to drop a Rose Queen and then Thorn Burst your opponent to dead with direct damage in one turn.
>>159308502
Nah, I get good shit a lot too. If you have a decent dect 1 turn is often all you need to wrench the game away
>>159308510
Source?
>draft a pretty cool arena deck and confident I might get a high win count
>eventually realize the lack of wards and proceed to get shitfaced by 4 of the 5 players, 2 of which are legend rank
is there a time period to avoid in arena where the best Shadowverse player tend to be active.
>>159308117
>tfw shit deck still wins cause I can draw meme deck until I get olivia and just choke the other player in a storm of evolves
>>159308458
What's a hard counter then?
>>159308460
You don't run flame destroyers and other spellboost shit?
>>159308856
Nope, only RNGesus can save your butthole.
>>159308814
>Source
Yupiel-sama no Geboku / Lady Yupiel's Servant by Nanashi | 774
>>159308713
Anything can fuck aggro if they draw like shit.
Reminder to remove any and all Elfs
>>159308594
I dunno, Elana seems overpowered but when I play against it with my half done control shadow I seem to be doing ok. I believe that once I make the deck actually viable it would shit on Elana without a problem.
>>159309010
True. But I was just pointing out that aggro doesn't really lose to Elana.
>>159309114
>Control Shadow
>Shitting on Elana
lmoa
>>159308772
I just got a second rose queen from my latest pack, so I figure I may as well try it out. Any deck building tips?
>>159308713
>after they nerfed him
eh?
>tfw barely squeak it out with double well of destiny cause you barely drew any spells
>>159308496
Storm Haven isn't really an aggro deck. It's a midrange deck if anything.
>Play forte
>dragon emmissary on turn 4
>drop my first forte and evolve her for 7 damage to the face
>opponent evolves into her
>drop my second forte, evolve her and do another 7 damage
>he evolves and suicides another minion to kill her
>drop my third forte and kill his face
Waifu stronk
How many packs do you get per reroll?
I'm counting 10 basic and 20 dark right now
>>159309263
You can basically build it the same way as any other top tier Forestcraft deck, but instead of stuffing it full of Tias throw some Rose Queens and Fairy Princesses in. All the other stuff is fairly standard Forestcraft stuff. Makes it easy to whittle down on your opponent most of the game and then let you drop a Rose Queen for a hand full of Thorn Bursts to rape face with.
>>159306609
I start playing this game yesterday and this is the first thing I did
>>159309296
You heard me.
>>159309352
You're almost as dumb as that guy yesterday who kept calling Storm Haven a tempo deck.
>>159309441
Just play the game. You'd have double that in 2 weeks and able to field many more decks
It's yet another episode of Mordecai the Duelist evolving your waifu into Mordecai the Duelist
POST PROFILES
>>159309496
Man I love that glitch
>>159309549
Why are you posting in two threads?
>>159309496
Does anyone have the webm of animated Gem Golem?
Shit's bonkers
>>159309214
>Control Shadow
>Shitting on Elana
It does, as weird as that sounds. Quite handily actually. But it's bad against so many other decks right now due to having no healing that just that single deck is almost all of its good match-ups.
Seraph Lapis is the coolest character, tbqh.
>>159309496
Luna is cute and I love her and all, but you mean to tell me I can play as a fucking SKELETON?Nice.
Why is Vania so smug?
>>159309614
Evolved Gem Golem I mean
>>159309614
hold on i'll make one
>Havenstorm fag plops le balanced baldie of removal on a board after spotting my 8/3 animated armor
>thinks for 40 seconds and ragequits
the joys of playing at shitter rank
>>159309683
Because she knows what she's doing to us.
>>159309661
I wish she was the alternate hero instead of that shitty eagle
>>159309658
It really doesn't unless you're C0 or something.
Elana has even-positive winrates against most other control decks. There's a reason why it had a *very* good showing at the previous tournament and is sitting comfy in T1.
>>159309614
Here is both
>>159309748
You take that back, bastard
Birbs are cute and he has great lines
>>159309472
>Storm Haven the game at a slightly slower pace than straightforward fast aggro through high value, hyper efficient creatures
Sounds pretty midrange to me.
Thragtusk when?
>>159309785
Love you man
>>159309748
Same. I have a huge boner for the whole "forgotten statue/robot/whatever girl" kinda trope you sometimes see in anime and manga. Planetarian comes to mind. The idea of some ultra-powerful seraph abandoned as a statue being slowly brought back to life by the prayers of the hopeful is great.
>>159309818
No deck that tends to end the game on turns 5-7 is midrange, no matter how much you think it does.
I'm pretty sure you're that
>Storm Haven is Tempo!
fag that got BTFO yesterday.
>>159309352
>win the game on turn 5
>not an aggro deck
>>159309818
It's slightly slower than the fastest of aggro, but not really slow enough to be put in midrange.
When you think midrange you think of shit like sword and dragon that decimate you around turn 9 or 10. Storm Haven runs out of steam very quickly and relies on burn with garuda and demon strike to end the game.
>>159309818
>high value, hyper efficient creatures
Sounds like huntertaker. No one would have call huntertaker midrange.
>angel boy
>become a angel girli know angels don't have sex
>>159309870
No, there's nothing "tempo" about Storm Haven.
>>159310012
>>159309965
>>159309903
I guess so, but part of it is probably due to the faster nature of Hearthstone and Shadowverse compared to Magic so yeah.
>>159309818
Fuck swagtusk craterhoof when.
Or better yet hornet queen.
>>159310131
actually not better yet, i'd prefer craterhoof over hornet queen
>>159310060
>angel boy
if that's a boy then I'm Chuck Norris
>>159309472
I have no idea what nerfs are you talking about
Introduction of new amulets?
>>159310060
Dude, both have obvious tits, are you blind?
>>159309783
I'm in AA0, and this list shits on Elana, if played correctly.
Win condition is snowballing them in the late game with Lord of the Flies.
Usually you can bait out Themis with Deathbreath.
Also this deck have enough removal and evo points for assuring that their followers won't live more than one turn after getting buffed the turn they're played.
Wight King, LotF get Bane to deal with their over buffed followers really well.
>>159310060
The one on the left has pretty obvious boobs, just shorter hair
>>159310131
No, fuck that. Forest doesn't need to be made even stronger.
>>159310174
Skull man's PP was increased. It's part of the reason why countdown haven died.
Let the games begin.
>missed lethal by one because I figured Luci could survive a turn in lategame
>>159310242
only one out of 4 cards dont make you die
>>159310185
>Muh anecdotes
Wew. I thought you were going to back up your claims with shadow record or something.
Guess I overestimated you.
I really enjoy this game but it almost feels kinda silly to play it because there's no telling how long it's going to last. The English version, anyways.
So when should I start playing with real players? I'm scared
>>159310328
Well just don't spend any money on it
The amulet spamming bitch seems fucking retarded.
>>159310242
>topdecked dia's while he topdecked servant
>this was the pack afterwards
Guess I sold my soul to the devil.
elf slut
ELVES ARE FOR ___
>>159310456
Removing
>>159310354
That's not really the issue. It's more about the time investment.
>Spend hundreds of hours getting deep into a game
>It dies after a while
It's the worst.
>>159310456
>>159310413
>>159310221
So is there elfball in this game or are they just powerful.
>>159310489
Everything dies.
>>159310489
>enjoy a game
>play it
>somehow it retroactively ruins all the fun you had if it shuts down
>can't decide between tia, seraph, alexander, pascale or ding dong emblem
Fuck why can't i wear them all?
>>159310456
Banishing in packs of 5
Getting cockblocked with walls of wards
Teasing before you drop 3 resets on Seraph
>>159310489
this is one of the fastest generals on /vg/ at the moment
I think it's here to stay, even if it doesn't become big on twitch etc it will always have a following kinda like fate/grand order
>>159310560
>this is one of the fastest generals on /vg/ at the moment
u wot
>>159310527
It becomes a bigger waste of time if it dies out before you reach whatever arbitrary goal you've set for yourself like getting 1 of every animated card
>>159310521
>>159310527
I know it's dumb but it still bothers me. I get anxious over everything.
>>159310507
Consistently all Elf decks are tier 1 no matter the nerfs they keep getting
>>159310614
Don't worry. Someday, you too will die and then your anxieties will die with you.
>>159310507
Forest can be a combo deck, if that's what you mean. Of course there's no direct translation of any specific Magic deck, because this game isn't Magic. Elfball already wouldn't work, since you can't have more than 5 creatures at a time.
>>159310660
I think about dying a lot. If I was dead then I wouldn't have to spend everyday stressed about everything.
>>159310708
>Elfball already wouldn't work, since you can't have more than 5 creatures at a time.
L A M E
A
M
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>>159310756
If you end up killing yourself, can I have your account?
>the ais always clear the board after turn 3 without fail
How the fuck are you supposed to banner this I dont get it. I can't even put the banner down since my board is usually empty by then and I need to defend
>>159310614
Just think of all the sweet new games to come out.
Besides, playing the same thing gets old.
>>159310507
Any high ranked garuda players here? What do you think about prism priestess vs temple defender?
>>159310849
Yea that kind of looks like elfball.
>>159310829
Just drop forest fencer on turn 4 and you got the board back. You can drop banner later
>>159310849
Is the werewolf's power equal to the spells cast that turn?
>>159310882
I could understand defender in Elana, but in storm haven? I think the draw from priestess is more important.
>>159310882
One is a tutor for your amulets and the other is a ward. You're not trying to defend as Garuda and the point of storm amulets is you don't spend the effort trying to keep them alive before hitting face.
If you're trying to play a hard to trade game, you'd use Dark Priest.
>>159311042
It has base 1 + the amount of cards played that turn
>>159310882
>aggressive deck
>temple defender
i dont think so
>>159311042
It's not a wolf, it's a magical cockroach.
And it's equal to all cards played previously the current turn.
Don't use plain magic terminology, follower cards are followers, spell cards are spells, and amulet cards are amulets. The distinction matters.
>>159311106
Storm Elves, that's not something I was expecting.
>>159311042
>werewolf
>>159311136
Force of Will Online when?
>>159310560
What happened to F/GO? I wanted to get into it when it came out but it had nip-tier gatcha rolls and I don't think It had any way to play on pc so I stayed away.
>>159311207
>>159311298
>>159311310
Looked like the head of an angry werewolf, sorry.
>>159311298
So what does storm mean on the card, if "fanfare" is the effect that pumps it.
>Fen sprite's flavor text
>>159311057
>>159311072
>>159311136
I figured as much but I find the -1 has so much utility in early game
it always hurts to put down a prism and have nothing else to play that turn if I'm not lucky enough to draw good amulets before turn 3
>>159311378
Storm means can attack right away
New player here, are any of these cards good?
>Sword campaign
>Redraw 2 cards
>Angelic sword maiden, olivia, forge weaponry
>Going first, get angelic sword maiden
Tuck me in, leave me to die /svg/
>>159310882
Some master haven uses defender and mainyu. No priestess.
Here's his deck.
>>159311378
storm means it can attack on the turn it's played
>>159311408
Tia is good
Fuck man, I should've crafted Cynthia way earlier. That card is fucking absurd.
>>159311408
Reroll. Only Tia is good.
>>159311408
OP has a short list of key cards for netdecks
Nico Nico Nii~
>>159311336
It exists, it's just crap and p2p and only has one set so far. Untap.in is your best bet for fow online atm.
>>159311408
Tia and mary are solid, rose queen and atomy are memes
>>159311408
only tia is good, if you opened only those 4 from your 40 starter packs you should look into rerolling
>>159311492
What's wrong with her ears?
>>159311471
Roach, Ancient Elf, Tia and Liza are fucking absurd too
>>159311408
Post your golds too.
How can you read the flavor texts of noncollectable cards?
>>159309549
>>159311567
Can someone explain to me what's so amazing about Liza? Her only use seems to be blocking angel barrage and similar spells for one turn. Is that really enough to elevate her to one of the best cards in forest?
How fucked will I be if I don't reroll?
>>159311617
Page 2 only has Incandescent Dragon
>dingdong sleeve
>dingdong emblem
>plays dingdong turn 2
>flair is Together Forever
>>159311736
She's good because you can bounce her back to your hand over and over to basically protect all your allies from spells for however long you can keep it up.
>>159311752
looks pretty shit desu senpai
>>159311772
>>159309549
>>159311772
Shit flair. First Farer is the official ding dong flair.
Metal as fuck card artWhy does it have anime eyes
>>159311842
I wish it were possible to make a not-shit Flame and Glass deck. And no, that DShift variant isn't good.
>>159311450
interesting, thanks
I was thinking of putting in a themis myself
ability to switch deck places when????
Aggro is the hero we need, but not the one we deserve. We must cleanse the ladder of all Elf scum, Bishop sluts, and Witch degenerates.
>>159311736
This triggers the dshift
bats
>>159312061
More decks when?
I play all decks and various types within all those decks
This is very critical when it comes to if I want to start playing or not. The FAQ answered most of my questions and it looks great until now, especially the great artwork and the phat amount of cards
B U T
U
T:Do the players moan whenever they get hit for max autistic pleasure?
What is Ding Dong? I can't find this card anywhere
>>159306525
Wait, this game has lesbians? Downloading.
>>159312201Jap dub. Eng is small time
>>159312201
yes
>>159312215
search fairy
>>159312201
Obviously.
>>159312215
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IAGQtWprqwQ
>>159312215
Reminder to praise Dingdong
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wlr_zBGzi_Y
>>159311736
>Fully statted for the cost
>Unique effect you can't get anywhere else
>Crucial 2 drop
>Easily reusable due to being cheap
She's beyond broken. If this wasn't an Elf card, it would be 3 PP 1/1 at most. But, as we all know, all Elf cards have to be overtuned.
>>159312230
It's a card game. There's less than a doujin of fluff in the storyline
>Checking Match Results
>>159312259
>>159312264
>>159312265
See you on the battlefield, lads.
>>159311736
Pretty much all decks have spell cards at turn 2-3 and it also blocks certain evolve effects
Grea when?
Spinaria when?
>>159312230
What this game needs:
-Best of 3 matches
-sideboarding
Game is way too simple.
>>159312451
>tits luna
kys
Absolute madman card when
>>159312296
>Crucial 2 drop
Why? It seems like besides being a regular 2/2 it doesn't do anything for you on a 2 drop. Unless you have an emotional attachment to that 1 drop you just played the turn before. And even then only rune would use up a spell to kill it.
>>159312451
>tits
>>159312575
...says the king of B3.
>>159312632
2 drops are crucial for every class you dip, and Liza is a fully statted 2 drop. Your opponent won't be able to use removal to remove your 2 follower board that will almost 100% be bounced back to buff Ancient Elf next turn.
>>159311736
>angelic barrage and similar spells
For Rune, this is more than half the cards in their deck.
Shadow gets Foul Tempest, Resentment, and Necroelementist blocked.
Dragon's Dragon Wings, Conflagration, Fafnir, Fist, and damage pings from Dragon Warrior, Fire Lizard, and Dragonewt Princess get blocked.
Blood's Demonic Storm and Revelations get blocked preventing them from saving themselves from a swarm.
It protects against all "deal 1 random damage" from Forest mirrors.
Sword only really has Swing, but that's a meaningful card considering Forest is one of the few classes that can outboard it.
Haven is the one class that is purely unaffected.
You're asking why a card that protects Forest from cards that hard counter its basic playstyle is good.
can i safely dust skullfane?
Please help with a concede.
ID:24782
>>159312787
Thanks for the gold m8.
>>159312760
It also blocks PtP damage so your board can surviive hits from it and go face next turn
>>159312760
This. You will haaaate spells with the fury of odin. Spells fuck your shit up so much
>>159312451
Mordecai will NOT allow this
>>159312707
>>159312760
Ok thx. It's just that I had 2 of them in my forest deck and prettty much never saw any use from them. It is my side deck though and I'm still in rank C so perhaps it's more visible on higher ranks and with a better deck.
>>159312769
yeah, haven just has better and cheaper ways of setting off their countdowns
>>159312769
NO
wait for him to get good or make a high CD deck
unless you never ever play Haven or need vials ASAP, keep this poor creature
>>159312630
I want him to be an alternate leader with Medusa poking her head into the portrait
Is there any way to update Google Play Service on Leapdroid without needing to verify your fucking google account with a phone?
It says that i need to update it to play Shadowverse but when i want to update it it logs me out of my fake google account i made for this and wants me to verify. Fucking hell
lewd
>>159312630
>Evolve: Summon a Medusa from your deck and evolve it.
>>159313131
version of this with urias riding vania when
>>159313137
You don't ever visibly see her use as your opponent outright doesn't play any spell that would get blocked if Liza is up.
She's one of the best cards in the game and is incredibly useful if you know your opponents' most opportune moments to use spells.
Turn 5 empty board? Play 3 fairies and Liza to combo with Cynthia turn 6. Or 2 fairies and Liza on turn 4 to combo turn 5.
You just knocked Blood into vengeance or it's turn 6? Plop down that Liza, now they can't recover with Revelations or Demonic Storm.
Shadow drops a pesky Necroelementist onto the board? Drop Liza before you kill her.
For Rune and Dragon matchups, you literally try to keep Liza's effect up as much as possible throughout the entire match.
Hags are my favorite bully target.
Especially when they don't draw their board clear.
>>159313587
That's a lot of bully
>>159313483
>urias riding vania
Lewd
So what are the bad matchups in this game?
Also, where can I read what the terminologies mean, stuff like aggro and banner etc.
>>159313419
aren't those guys
> Choose a name
Fuck, here we go again. This could take a while.
>>159313781
You can change your name anytime as often as you like
>>159313781
I got you buddy:
xxXPussyEater69Xxx
Now you can move on and enjoy the game
After many more rerolls this is still the best I've got, at least in terms of quantity for golds and legendaries. There's a Leonidas on page 2.
My gacha luck is fucking horrendous so I'm looking for a really good start.
Is this good enough or can I do better?
>>159313820
Damn, that's really nice and saves me an hour or two. Good to know, thanks!
Do Ranks reset?
>>159313781
Call yourself Orcdick and fuck those elves.
>>159313956
>>159313781
You can pick any name, even if it's taken already. The game uses an ID code to identify accounts.
>>159313909
That's a good roll. Dust some things and make an aggro bat deck with those two Vanias while you work towards a forest deck imo.
>>159313781
Fairyfucker69
>>159313709
That only makes me harder
>>159313781
xXxMLGIWearElvesAsCocksleevesProxXx
FifthturnGGAggro
>>159313709
>>159313781
ErisInTheStreetsIsabelleInTheSheets
>not having themis
Healscum BTFO
Heavencraft is fucking bullshit
post animated cards
>>159312107
Liza is cheat.
>>159313709
>>159314349
damn nigga you sure attacked his face a couple times
>>159314249
This is honestly one of the better general threads. Actual discussion and shit along with waifuposting and no one is getting triggered. You guysare pretty cool, I hope you all have a nice day!
>>159314378
Not al ot of amulet removal either
>>159314490
Amulet removal just speeds it up for them.
>>159314407
>>159314531
Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!
>>159314407
>>159314064
Thanks, guess I'm keeping this account then. Mind telling me which of the cards are safe to dust if I wanna focus on aggro bat and forest? Also, should I be crafting cards for aggro bat right away or is it like in Hearthstone where you unlock basic cards through leveling or tutorials/campaigns?
>>159314407
How do I make animated card's webms?
I really wish Haven wasn't ~the best~ deck right now, god is it boring to fight even when they aren't doing cheeseball bullshit.
>>159314407
>>159314579
Orccraft when?
>>159314590
not really that familiar with the golds of decks I don't play but if that rune golem is animated it's probably safe to dust
the solo stuff gives you some good cards and also vials/rupies and arena tickets and then you can beat all the AIs on elite for 200 rupies each for the first time so do both of those and then open some packs with all of your gold and then you can buy the remaining cards
>>159314623
google webm for retards
>>159314489
Because waifubaiting is literally integral part of this games design
>>159314623
record it somehow and then use webm for bakas
>>159314642
forest is the best deck right now but it's expensive and haven is cheap as shit and way easier to play so you see it way more often
>>159314642
but don't you enjoy a 4 turn countdown to losing the game ?
>>159314805
which card are you losing to that has a 4 turn cd wtf
>>159314407
What can I change?
I feel like I'm running too much removal even though it's been working rather well so far.
>>159314642
Indeed, even if Haven its not ''the best'' its a really boring class to play against.Haven needs a nerf as well that Forest, but I prefer to play against Forest than Haven, always.
Shadowcraft or Haven for T2?
>>159314847
Enstatued Seraph is an amulet that has as last word: summons a new amulet and the final amulet of the chain has for effect
>Win the game
>>159314847
Haven's Exodia, SeraphGLORY BE
So what's the story supposed to be? The havencraft lady is sending 7 teenagers with attitude to this gateway but for what it's not like they're all that special
>shitters talking again how Haven is op
When do they will stop being shitter?
>>159314407
>>159314974
>>159314992
why play seraph when you can play garuda
>>159315007
Then tell me how to gitgud
>>159314887
Pretty good you just need to refine somethings but overall is a good deck
>>159315007
Yeah, forest is true cancer.
>>159314407
>>159314407
>>159315015
>tfw someone talks shit about Rowen-san
>>159314995
>Urias
>Teenager
>>159315079
Well which things? That's why I'm asking about removal.
>>159315171
Seraph is the coolest and there's nothing you can say to persuade me.
>>159314995
>Eris
>Teenager
>>159315007
I didn't say OP, I said it's boring as all hell.
>>159314642
>tfw your favourite deck has a 39% win rate against elena shit
>36% when starting first
I just gg go next if they put Elena down early desu
>>159314925
I feel that we need more ways to destroy amulets and some nerfs to Forest.
>>159314407
So the japanese tierlist still puts D-Shitf into tier S despite having a 44% winrate.
What gives?
>>159314407
>>159315285
>l which things?
Lesser mummy is a good stable in every aggro and +necroelementist is good too.
Maybe remove some removals like deathbrand but these things sinergy well with your deck.
>>159314925
>Haven needs a nerf
kys
storm gets shit on by any decent midrange deck and any slow haven is a coinflip to see if you go second and THEN you need low cost cards that only become useful by the time you're at half hp in the current meta
>>159314887
You need 3 puppies. It's not even an option
>>159315535
wtf
>>159315439
She just gets sadder :(
>>159315528
Probably because it utterly shits on Elana, which is by far the most played deck.
>priest of the cudgel
>garuda
>seraph
>>159315317
R-Rude
>>159315608
What's with the japs and their reactive nonsense decks which all live and die by drawing a specific card
>>159313709
Could I substitute Alexander for Lucifer or Gabriel in control sword?
>>159315606
Pretty princesses have no business getting damaged
If you have to evolve her you're probably going to smash her into an orc or worse
>>159315640
>after 3 turns of nothing
you had all the time in the world to ruin her day
>>159314407
>>159315578
Nice try hag, but the numbers don't lie.
You can't try to pretend your class isn't an OP piece of shit all you want, but that doesn't make it true.
>>159315694
except if you get shit draws like only 4+ shit in a deck with 60% 1-3 cards
>>159315581
Well if I had them of course I would put them in.
>Angelic barrage is 3 mana
>Clear my fairies causing me lose all tempo
>There is no ideal way to clear amulets, you have to wait until turn 8 to even have a chance to deal with garuda
I only ask for a neutral solution for countdown amulets. They can have barrage I don't mind but I just want to have a way for every class to banish amulets as early as turn 3.
>>159314407
http://shadowlog.com/trend/2016/43/4/21
>control sword vs shadow
>25% 1st turn win rate, 75% second turn win rate
explain this
>>159315748
the same happens to Haven and more often than you think
they have shit for draws if you haven't noticed already
>>159315715
>the numbers don't lie
you try winning with Haven for 4 games in a row and then report back
numbers don't lie, do they?
>>159315691
2 Alexs are great at stabilizing the board
>>159315764
Get to scrapping your beast dominators and simulacrums
>>159315846
1st turn is balanced around aggro, I've been saying this for months. They don't give a fuck how disadvantaged control decks are going first.
>>159315694
>you had all the time in the world to ruin her day
>implying 3 turns is long enough
Even banner aggro won't do enough damage in that time to make the incoming bullshit manageable.
>>159315715
>the numbers don't lie
storm haven has 50.8% winrate with high rates against underplayed decks and low win rates against more played decks, only exception being dshift decks
>>159314407
>>159315851
What's good for keeping your Alex's alive?
>>159315847
except haven has the biggest ability to pick up the pace out of almost all decks except sword
>>159315908
>3 turns are not enough to play 3+ followers
>as swordcunt
oh so that's why I have to pray for aoe banish by turn 3 and get wrecked if I don't get it
>Storm haven
>Dshift
>2 of the most uninteractive decks
How to reasonably nerf them so that at least they are trying to look at what the opponent's board has to offer?
>>159313709
No, but you're probably the same kind of idiot that thinks effect veiler is a dude.
>>159316116
who wouldn't
>>159316049
Exactly, pick up
You start extremely slow and if your enemy has more luck their starting hand you either draw cugdel to help regain some tempo (you're at half hp already, mind you) or try to stall with banish that conveniently can't remove anything above 2def
>>159316078
To be fair aggro relies a lot more on draws than storm haven. You can come back easily if they can't kill you buy turn 5.
>>159316093
>nerfing a 44% winrate deck
amazing
And since you're such a shitter I'll even explain that Dimension Shift's entire gameplan is about looking at your board and trying to not die
>>159316045
You don't. You trade off 2-3 mobs starting with the weakest ones at 2/3 3/3 and then finally the big fattie 6/6 for insane value and board clear
The whole point of stalling for late is either creating a fucking wall with frontguards, aurelias or otohime swarm or going for leonidas
You do know how the 3xmaid 3x blader thing works right? You literally draw through your entire deck once you get the engines started
Of course if you curve out you can win on turn 5-6 with floral fencer bullshit
https://shadowverse.gamewith.jp/article/show/38752
Which one?
>>159316259
>You can come back easily if they can't kill you buy turn 5.
But that's bullshit
No turn 4 cugdel or amulet reset = no removal, simple as that
And floral is by far the most bullshit 4 drop
Did I mention that amulets get turned/returned at the last tick? Thank Cygames for elf/rune sluts
>>159316336
heaven
>>159316078
>Implying 3 followers means shit
Yeah, that quickblader/oathless knight+friend and storm 2/2 are fucking great against a 4/4 a 2/1 with storm and in most cases an evolved cudgel preist who takes two of them out by himself. And that assumes Haven did nothing on turn 3 when they most likely put that 3 cost Falcon amulet down.
Also don't forget they likely played that amulet that draws 2 on turn 1 so that pops on turn 4 iirc.
>>159315370
They should change all the followers with destroy an amulet effect to banish an amulet
>>159308529
its always them who d/c, fuckin timewasters
>>159316370
You're assuming that Haven draws everything perfectly on curve AND doesn't get their amulets fucked up
Meanwhile sword has a full board (often with a banner) and evolution on next turn to finish cugdel off with a 1/1 and proceed to fuck Haven's face
Do you even play the game, tard?
>>159316203
Except after turn 5 it is auto win for haven.
>Decree can't banish amulet
>>159316290
>Hurr relies heavily on draw when their drawing machine is so powerful
>Trying not to die durr when they have so many answers that they always just go face with missiles
Tempo is so easily lost against Dshift and Storm Haven that it is not even funny. You can say 44% winrate all you want doesn't make it a fun deck to play against.
>>159316494
timewaster? more like missed abortion, the game got stuck and i had to alt f4 and reopen it, guess what? the game fucking decided i was a leaver too and counted it as a loss
>>159316454
I think making new cheaper cards that can destory amulets and then make the destroy amulet followers to have a banish effect might help counter haven a bit more.
never gets old
>>159316525
That's true but they have to draw decree first and that only happens when it's in their starting hand which means it's literally dead weight for 5 turns
Then and only then you can use it to clear the board while you're barely alive and pray that they don't fill the board in the next 2 turns because the odds of drawing TWO decrees is abysmal
Did I mention lmao no draw?
>>159316525
Why should Cygames balance the game around what you think is fun to play against? You want to turn Witch into a class that plays minions on curve that you can efficiently trade into, fuck off retard
Midrange sword or Storm haven ?
Only got enough vials for one deck, so i need to choose
>reach D0
>all the opponents are heaven
>if I don't draw enough to kill them by turn 6 it's instant loss
>>159316669
storm before it gets nerfed
then liquify and become another swordbabby
>>159316669
I'd start with midrange sword and gradually build control sword.
I love how Havenfags thinks that they only win when they have a bit of luck when both Elana and Storm are top tier decks atm.
>>159316771
how is it top tier if it has 50.8% winrate
RATE CRAFT DIFFICULTY
So what I'm getting from this argument is that Haven is bad when they get bad draws... just like every other class.
To a lesser extent, though.
>>159316346
Except elf has no way to deal with amulets. Rune is cancer anyway.
Floral is hard to dealt with but not impossible since those knights that she summons cannot attack on the same turn. You can just decree them to death.
The thing is, most of the ways to dealt with amulet in this game is to destroy them. That doesn't work so well with countdown amulets. How many times do you see your countdown amulets getting fucked aside from when facing rune?
>>159316771
you don't see storm or elanafags shitposting itt as they are too busy winning games
I'm just salty that my suboptimal decks can't break 50% winrate
Anyone have a link to a standard dshift deck?
Or a budget one is fine too, I only have 1 merlin but I could make one more if I melt Queen Vampire.
>>159316656
>Implying I said any of those things
One dimensional thinking at its best.
>>159316654
>Lmao no draw
>100% first turn sacred plea
When I am playing forest, it is usually haven and rune that have more cards in hand than me all the time.
is dshift even worth building? why is it so popular if it has such a low winrate
>>159317052
Because getting three turns in a row is funny.
>>159317052
People collecting their free wins vs Elana decks
How's this for a control sword deck?
>>159316842
face > aggro > midrange/tempo > control > combo
I have a need.
A need forconcede
ID:725623927
>>159317093
who plays elana over garuda
>>159316852
Nature's guidance is cancer
Remove a 6/6 that I spent 3 turns on for 1pt?
Yes please
Oh and reuse bullshit OP fanfare too while we're at it
People in this thread seem to forget that only birds have storm and even then you're forced to trade if you don't want them removed for free
>>159316958
5% do draw on first turn
0% to get draws before turn 4 because you aren't speeding it up when there is aria and shit that has to come online ASAP
>>159314407
>>159317115
what's the difference between face and aggro
>>159314705
i'm guessing i should be buying darkness evolved packs and not standard ones?
>>159317118
Make a room and post the id of the private room
>>159317149
now that's a quality webm
>>159317149
the shading on that tummy is excellent
>>159317181
depends on the cards you want really but DE packs are less common than standard ones
I am joining your ranks now: >>159317105
What is the best netdeck?
HOW CAN I FUCKING SORT MY DECK
I WANT MY MAIN DECK AT THE TOP
UGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
>Everyone concedes
Sometimes I was on a make it or break it situation but they keep conceding.
Based America resurrecting my heavenhag again
>>159317259
delete everything else
>>159317149
When we are getting a webm/gif list of animated cards?
>2 hours rerolling
>still no decent rolls
>>159317194
I got used to inviting my friend who's off right now.
19510
>>159317256
PtP shadow
>>159317256
Aggro Bats.
>switch to jap voices
>start playing dragoncraft more
>miss the english voice of trinity dragon
YOU HAVE NO BUSINESS HERE!
>>159317291
>1 spell and nothing playable til turn 4
seems about right
are you using hag portrait to fool them into thinking you're elana/seraph?
if so, gj
I was sceptical but the ninja is basically guaranteed to do 2 damage at least before dying horribly unless it gets AoE'd. Really like this build.
Fuck
>>159317256
play Seraph itsfun
>>159317121
>Nature's guidance is cancer
>Returning enemies's minion
>ever
Are you sure you are playing shadowverse? Also Pixie mischief is 2 mana, need a follower on board, can't choose enemy follower to return and can't return amulets.
Those fanfare that forest has can do nothing on your amulet so rest assure.
>>159317052
Don't believe in the winrate. It is a "fun" and powerful deck. The reason it has a low winrate is because it is hard to play correctly. You need to train a lot on that deck. "Depends a lot on draw" is bullshit because the deck has shit tons of draws, you need to understand every matchup and decide when to draw and when to clear. For a pleb that deck has less than 50% winrate, but if you mastered it, the ladder is all yours.
>>159317415
>use rate
>necro
>7.1
Always knew I'm a special snowflake.
>>159317390
banner is probably the most braindead deck in the entire game
my mobile version is still stuck on the Welcome to Shadowverse screen so I can't reroll
>>159317415
Dragon use rate is too high. I never want to see this class again. Please nerf
>>159317415
when are those numbers from
and sort them to show AA+ only cause who cares about low ranks
>>159317415
OMG IT'S 4% OF ADVANTAGE GOING FIRST IS So UNFAIR WHY I'M SO SHITTER AND LOOK HOW HAVEN IS OP THEY HAVE 50,9% OF WINNNING THIS DECK NEED TO BE NERF
>>159317520
Nothing wrong with that, it's the perfect deck to unwind with.
>I WILL SHINE
>I WILL SHINE
>I WILL SHINE
>I WILL SHINE
>>159317472
If you can't beat haven with elf you deserve to lose
Elf is hag's nemesis
>>159317327
Something happened, anon? Seems there was a disconnect.
Gotta roach them all.
>>159317602
Yeah I think Hearthstone babbies got used to blaming RNG when they lose so now they blame going first / class balance
>>159317415
>Sword winrate higher than haven
How is it possible? Sword is so easy to deal with compare to that hag.
>>159316848
>tfw your opponent redraws all 3
>tfw he redraws none
>tfw you get a 1*/2/3/4* and the game goes slick as owl shit
>>159317608
Nothing like beating someone's fancy expensive deck with banner sword or aggro bats.
>>159317641
Computer lagged for a moment. Here's the new room: 14267
>>159317626
Maybe it is because I don't have ancient elves and Tia?
>>159317602
4% is quite a lot for something that is literally a coinflip
I don't see why going first isn't allowed to have 3 points when you already evolve a turn later
I want to rape an elf.
>>159317382
I legit like hag.
;_;
>>159317847
ELVES ARE NOT FOR SEX
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
>>159317824
Because that would give them >10% boost.
>>159317324
You get a ton of packs to start, you get campaign packs and cards, you have easy cheevos, you get over 15 packs a week in dailies. Instead of trying to rng into one deck just play and have 3 budgets
>>159317693
Banner sword wrecks the babbies, control sword fucks with the popular decks.
Midrange is good too but it has some pretty bad matchups.
>>159317824
YES THE THE CUDGEL IS THE UNIQUE 4 DROP VIABLE IN THIS META BECAUSE HAVEN IS OP PPLS NEERF IT
>>159317873
>tfw want to use Seraph emblem
>but you play Seraph
>>159317918
take your meds, guy
>>159317750
That shit is unrelated to what I wrote in my post.
Going first is not an advantage per se. If you go first, you better hope you have good draws. You can be more relax in mulligan if you go second.
>>159317417
Please don't troll newbies like that, anon. It's not nice.This is coming from a pure Seraph Deck player. Cards may have chosen me, but damned if it isn't rough getting meme'd by D-Shift, Earth Rite memedecks, and Early Aggressive Aggro decks.I'll be honest, though, I agree with you. It's fun in a tense way.
Do gems ever go on sale? I wanna up my collection but don't want to pay 100 gems per pack. I know they have that thing where you can buy a pack for 50 gems once per day.
>>159317731
Lagged again, it seems. Is your PC and internet connection fine on your end?
>>159317994
>playing Seraph in the dumpster ranks
>every game boils down to "if they have storm amulet plus Garuda they win"
it's a hard life
>>159317909
>Control sword
Is that a thing? I've never met something like that. Or am I too deep down the dumpster?
>>159317918
You sound more unreasonable and incoherent than those who complains about haven. Are all haven players hysterical like that?
>>159316571
They can always change storm bird to rush birds and make elana 1/0 instead of 1/1. For elf they could make roach 0/1 and elf something like 2/2
Holy shit, Mordecai is so fucking OP in arena. Literally nothing but banish can stop him and I've never even been offered one.
>>159317918
>Someone posts statistical evidence that going second is always better
>Proceeds to chimp out
You are not helping your case here.
>>159317940
Like every game, it depend on the deck.
Player one can always play Seraph first in a mirror. Other decks prefer the evolve.
>>159318112
It's one of the most expensive decks in the game so you wont see a lot of them early on
>finish D-Shift
>literally fall half a rank because everybody is playing aggro
wew
>>159317940
going second is statistically always an advantage unless you're playing aggrobat
>>159318250
Meme on us Seraph players. We'll give you lots of time to charge up your Za Warudo deck.
>>159318179
>get mordecai and rise of the dead
>proceed to let mordecai kill and revive himself
>rise of the dead now gives you a second mordecai
This is the arena winning strat, it hasn't failed me once when I've gotten both of them.
>>159317923
I play birds so I keep seraph as emblem
I like it and it may fool fools so it's a win-win situation
>>159318250
>Aggro all over ladder
>Well, better build a deck for the sole purpose fucking over any player trying to counter the aggro
Subhuman solitaire trash.
still not seeing any source for win percentage with regards to who goes first
>>159318296
Memeing Elana and Seraph is literally all the deck can do.
That and having a decent matchup against midrange which is pretty much nonexistent.
>>159306525
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=COhSan3UMw8&t=23m8ss
Remember, it's not bullying, it's AI DA YO.
>>159318392
what even does well against aggro in this game
Need someone to help with a private match. 60739
>>159318276
That is how I feel on the ladder too. I always feel pressured to have good mulligans and good draws if I go first.
>>159318424
sun haven
AW C'MON!
>>159318392
I wanted a Runecraft deck and I'm not enough of a wallet warrior to make Pascale Runecraft.
>>159318424
Tempo Forestcraft in my experience :^)
>>159318449
Much gracias.
>>159318424
Elana is good against aggro if they can hold. Certain rune deck is good against aggro. Tempo forest is good against aggro.
>>159318424
More aggro and Elf cancer.
>>159318479
And if he traps you into having to evolve early, which happens a lot, you are in a big disadvantage. I don't understand why they get an extra draw at the start on top of having an extra evolve.
>>159318598
de nad
>>159318552
tempo forest is good against every deck in the game
>>159318227
>one of
its the most expensive viable deck in the game
and banner is the cheapest viable deck in the game
why is sword so based
>>159317894
I already have a main account where I have all of that. I am trying to get a great reroll, while my dailies are down.
>>159308460
Because everyone is too butt blasted by "muh solitaire cucking me out of well-deserved wins" to see how flawed the class is currently
>>159318424
Control sword.
>>159318407
http://shadowlog.com/trend/
You can do the math yourself. Last week, it was 48.5% vs 51.5% for going first vs going second.
>>159318814
Sword is the most honest class in the game, and scrubs still complain about it. It's literally the only fucking class that doesn't have a 2 card 10+ damage combo. Well, Rune doesn't either, but they're degenerates that kill you in 1 turn anyways.
how can anyone enjoy playing dragon?
the deck is soooooo slow, holy shit
>>159318336
Morde+Ceridwen or Urd in the arena is stupid as fuck.
>tfw just got cheated out of my first 5/0 because some fucking annoying Heaven slut kept fucking healing and healing and healing.
I fucking hate her fucking face so much REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEAlso that Curse+Mirage combo won me 3 of my games
>>159318928
play face dragon, it's no slower than garuda
>>159318853
>I want a buff, but I don't wanna give up my game breaking/ruining combo card :)
They can give them all the buffs their heart desires if they remove the auto win aspect against slow decks. Just remove D.Shift from the game, and they can give them all the survival cards they need.
>>159318928
>he doesn't know about face dragon
>>159318884
God damn, all sword decks are horrendous when they go first. Is it because of Flower Fencer?
>>159318610
>Certain rune deck
Teach me your secrets.
>>159318984
cursed general is sick
>>159319120
wrong screen
>>159319071
Sword has no removal other than the 2 PP spell. Without evolve orbs, they literally cannot take back the board.
>>159318250
>completed Dshift deck in aggro meta
>my only decent deck
im placing all of my hopes on new expansion
>>159317415
Why is it always Rune that has "percent" written out?
>>159319096
l2p Dshift. If you think it is too hard you can always go conjure golem rune.
>>159318610
>certain rune deck
it has to be earth rite conjure golem warding scum.r-right??
Does Urd give the card that was destroyed and then returned to the field full hp again or does it stay the same?
>>159319213
D.Shift will never be buffed. The only "buff" they can get is control decks becoming better, and pushing back the aggro, which will never happen, because you solitaire degenerates are always there to make sure control remains shit. Aggro doesn't lose as hard to control as control does to combo.
>>159319192
>Sword has no removal
What are Giant kill and Onslaught?
>>159319310
Full HP.
You could have a card with Storm run in, bully some troublesome 1/1 or 2/2 card, then put Urd into play, destroy and recreate the card in play with full health.
>>159319310
It returns it to its original unevolved state at full hp. All buffs are gone.
>>159319310
It returns the whole card to play,not just the follower, so full HP.
>>159319379
useless
>>159319310
>Regal falcon face
>Urd
>Regal falcon smacking face again
Neutral low cost card that can banish amulet when?
>>159319379
And Tsubaki, but they (except for onslaught) have specific conditions that usually aren't met when it matters most (in turn 4 almost every time)
>>159319213
>my only decent deck
What are you doing anon? I have played for 3-4 weeks and have 6 tier S and A decks.
>>159319379
What about whole soul swing?
>>159319310
Mordecai cloning with Urd is my current fav combo
>>159319379
Useless? None of them can remove midrange minions. Sword already has an answer to 5+ in the form of Tsubaki. If the opponent is dominating the board with 3 and 4 attack followers, the game is over.
I did it mom.
How do you unlock ringon sleeves
>>159319182
cursed general is okay
there's plenty of officers who naturally have storm, or have "if commander is in play, gain storm".
but i bet its a great pull for take two regardless
>>159319621
OMEDETOU
>>159319652
too l8 nigga
>>159319621
>haven
now do it with a real class
>>159319652
Go back in time, achieve 4000 in rank score last season.
>>159319652
hope they bring them back
>>159319621
Omedetou for using a totally balanced class and not being a shitter like this >>159319709
>>159319709
Like Shadow?
Idk which is better, is Olivia standalone better than two turn 8 leggos?
>>159319621
grats senpai
>>159319702
>>159319729
>>159319754
Well shit, I was already playing by then but stopped around 3k and did only arenas.
>>159319829
>Fucking pic related because I am high and it's 8 am
>You get 14 packs just for bullying the 7 AI's
>All those other easy packs
>Daily hailstorm of sheckles/packs
Why bother rerolling?
>>159318928
I dunno. But I got a lot of neat affects and abilities that more than pay off its atk/def to pp plus there's 3 cards off the top of my head that give you pp orbs for pretty good odds of getting rolling. Between ward, removal spells, evo, and abilities, and a little draw I run all over dudes then steamroll under the overgrowth deck trait thing. Then I luck into Olivia and it gets even crazier.
>>159319905
Why don't you rank? Rank is super comfycompare to the hell that is hearthstone ladder.
>>159319972
If you go left, go for an aggro draft, if you go right, go for a midrange value draft.
>>159319972
right
do ranks reset?
i noticed at the top of the score rewards menu that these are only available until the end of november
>>159320057
I was using Control Heavencute
I wasn't as good so I started doing arenas to get some packs and gold.
>>159320124
Ranks don't reset, score resets.
>>159320124
Nope. You can't go down in rank to bully the babies either.
>>159317096
Still looking for help if anyone can give it
>>159320124
No, score does. You stay at your rank, but "score gained THIS SEASON" gets reset.
>>159319990
Legendaries.
I haven't gotten a single one in the last 5 days and I've open up about 3 packs a day.
>>159318919
>It's literally the only fucking class that doesn't have a 2 card 10+ damage combo
Otohime + Banner.
>>159320057
>tfw get to play baddies now but soon I'll run into people with complete netdecks and I'll get ravaged with my shitty whatever I had that looked good homemade deck
>>159319990
Because beating the AI takes more time than rerolling? And why not do both? Reroll for a good start, then slap the AI.
>>159319213
>aggro meta
I want this fucking meme to end
There is literally ONE tier 1 aggro deck in the meta now and only because it has good MUs with all the control and tempo that is played.
>b-but Storm Haven!
That's midrange
>b-but Face Dragon and Bannermemes!
Tier 2 decks
This is the fucking Forestcraft meta, easily.
>>159320256I'LL
PROTECT
OTOHIME
>>159320256
>Hurrr earthrite Rune has a 1000000+ damage combo :)))
We're talking about burst you imbecile.
>>159320256
none of them have storm
>>159317313
mega:///#fm/Co8FGQQY
Does this work? First time using this stuff.
>going first
>against haven
>mfw i'm shaddow player with a lot of wards and aggro
>haven is fucking slow and only can deal with me after 5 turns
Kek how the fuck shitters complain?
How to link accounts
I tried to just to do it on my phone, and the mission still isn't complete
>>159319972
>>159320060
>>159320058
So I went with the right, and ended up getting the most one sided last pick ever and an Olivia anyways. Cheers.
>>159320475
*banishes all your >2 hp followers*
*cudgels you*
>>159320492
I think the mission was for linking your account with facebook/google play/etc. I tried linking to my phone too at first.
>>159320338
>This is the fucking Forestcraft meta, easily.
>the Forestcraft meta
What meta ISN"T "the Forestcraft meta"? You do realize this degenerate class has been tier 1 for like 4 months now, right? And this is with 2 fucking consecutive nerfs. The class is an obvious dev pet class, and some one is making sure it's always at the top over there.
>>159320475
And then all that damage you've done all those 5 turns in negated by 2 heals and you're up against a board full of tigers and birds. Oh and forget all those shadows and last words effect because your shit is getting banished and then you get Themis'd.
>>159320475
>Tales from C rank :^)
>>159320596
>dev pet class
>2 fucking consecutive nerfs
You seem mad. What deck do you usually play?
>>159320659
>Themis
Good ole 6-Point Wrath of God.
>>159320475
Are you the shadowshitter that just lost to my Moon al-Jamal?
Out fucking faced.
>>159320808
Which is totally fine for this game. Meanwhile HS needs a 4 mana Wrath so fucking badly.
>>159320808
More like 6 mana twisting nether which happens to preserve your own board.
>>159320996
>fighting cancer with aids
>>159320794
>State facts
>u mad ;)
Doesn't matter what class I play, you'll find a way to shitpost about it. Forest has been at the top for so long, and survived both multiple ineffective ""nerfs"" and an entire expansion. Every fucking deck in the game, including itself, is teching against it specifically. The class is obviously overtuned, and in need of tuning down.
Were you even here 3 months ago when they """nerf""" it with Harvest Festival?
>>159320256
How's blood supposed to deal with 10 hp and all the leader damage around?
>>159320996
>>159320794
Sure they nerf the class then they go and create the totally balanced Tia. Meanwhile dragon gets an useless legendary.
>>159321095
Taking them down first.
>>159320424
Just have a cursed general on the board beforehand. :^)
>tfw tried cursed meme in my banner sword
>worked for all of two games before I went against a tempo elf hybrid it seems
An attempt was made.
>>159321217
>4dmg burst
wow
>>159321130
How broken Would Flute be if the dragons had Storm? Maybe be 3/2 to compensate.
>switch to Japanese dub
>some cards have different genders entirely
What the fuck?
>>159321102
What are yo usupposed to do to stop roach?
>>159321418
wards
>>159321082
People don't run Harvest Festival anymore, so it is fair to consider a nerf.
I am asking which deck you usually use because maybe that deck is not favoured against forest which is why it built up your resentment against the class. I myself have no problem against forest even though I did lost games to them.
The point is, you have to git gud and play storm haven.
>Mulligan
>this
>for 6 turns straight draw dances, moons, and not even one ritual
>Lose
Wasn't expecting to win but holy shit the rng sometimes.
I'm new to shadowverse and I want to make a Bloodcraft deck. Can someone link me an example deck?
>>159320440
Again. Would like to know if that link worked.
>>159320594
How do you do that?
>>159321517
>>159321418
What are you supposed to do to stop Amulets?
>>159319525
i dont whale, and blame RNG for my shitty deck
>>159321479
>Too many highs
>Gits rekt
Draws aren't for show
>>159321564
There should be a button for that in the "More" section.
>>159321638
Enjoy two or three free turns, shitter
>>159321474
Forest doesn't have a single match up lower than 45%, so it doesn't matter what deck you're using. PtP Forest had a weakness to D.Shift, but Liza and Cynthia gave Forest so much aggro potential, Rune gets completely buttfucked now against Forest.
Forest is overpowered, no amount of retarded deflection and personal attacks against people will change that.
>>159321638
Concede. They can't kill you if you aren't playing.
>>159321564
You have to use the mobile client, then go to more and account link.
>>159321709
That would work if hags didn't have the best removal in the game.
Elf is fucking cancer.
Rape all the elves
So I'm hearing a lot of big name voice actors playing the cards.
If they have all this money to throw around why are the female heroes voiced by nobodies aside from Eris? I mean they got Tomokazu Sugita for Rowen and Junichi Suwabe for Urias
Am I just a massive scrub when I can't beat the last story missions with the default decks or do you need to actually make some changes to them?
>>159321082
Forest is focus around tempo and trading on board which is exactly what a card game should focus around. The game is tuned towards board combat is actually good considering that alternative is hiding your hand for first 20 turns and OTK or smacking opponent's face since turn 1.
>>159321845
I sure love removing a board of skeletons to face zombies and liches
Oh, do you mean that aoe wipe that only works the next turn?
Ebin
>>159321861
add the cards you won in story
just reached B my body is not prepared for garuda/storm haven spam
>>159321852
Vampy got voiced by Rie Kugimiya the tsundere goddess.
>>159321638
Odin's Fanfare (Neutral Legendary)
Petrification for Runecraft
Certain Earth Rite combos (Runecraft again)
>mfw my amulets start disappearing or turning into 2/2 Golems
>>159321935
Elana is way more prevalent in B.
>friend averages 4-1 in Arena
How does he do it?
>>159321948
Vampy ain't new. Also the guy you replied to is stupid.
>>159321639
>i dont whale
You don't have to.
>and blame RNG for my shitty deck
Should have rerolled you moron.
>>159321660
This is what my draws usually look like.
But luck isn't a skill I master.
>>159321852
wut,
It has Kana Hana, Mai Nakahara, Rie Kugimiya and other big name female.
>>159322092
ditch DoD for the 4pt double execution amulet if you have something to reset it with
>>159321861
Go to cards, decks, hit the new slow, select copy deck, scroll right 3 twice to see the default decks. copy your default deck. Add in some of the cards the campaign gave you and replace some of your cards with more effective counterparts you got from packs you got at the start of the game, from dailies, achievements, and sheckles. As you play more you'll be able to tell after you get wrecked what you need to switch in. There's a ton of articles on the shadowverse website that help you as well.
>>159321935
Any way to concede spam for other /svg/ anon's dailies to nuke your rank back down?
>>159322007
>tfw all your hopes and dreams are now a potato with a retarded look on its face
>>159321852
I wouldn't call Ogura Yui a nobody
>>159321914
>Forest is focused around trading on board
How long have you been playing this game? 2 days? Roach is played in every single Forest deck to date, and 10+ combo from hand with it are brain dead easy. The other main win condition of Forest decks is PtP, a combo deck focused on killing you in 1 turn. Other meme Forest decks include Silver Bolt, and Rose Queen, all combo decks focused on killing you from hand.
Forest is a combo class by every definition of the word. It only plays tempo now, because it got access to the overpowered Tia. But, the main condition remains a roach to the face.
So how am I supposed to beat the Elite AI's as a new player? I really want that 1400 gold so I can buy packs and decide whether to keep the account or not.
>>159321852
>>159322168
Tons of high level voice actors, no idea what anon is complaining about. What irks me is the amount of times they are reused. Gets annoying when every third card is Ohara or Chafurin.
>>159322248
Sorry I got the wrong picture. here's the cool one.
Reminder that nothing's scary with allies by your side
>>159322350
Budget bannercraft meme. don't craft anything, you can get by. If you have enough of another cheese deck you got it. Or just run as close of a hard counter deck as you can
>>159322350
Aggro. If you have a concern about budget in card games, the answer is always aggro.
>>159322168
Just ignore and they'll start to reply to themselves. It isn't even a sv or cygames thing but hey this game has a shit fanbase.
>>159321921
>complaining about Necro of all things
Are we playing the same game?
Swordcraft or Forestcraft?
which one is more fun?
>>159322562
Play both, settle down in whichever you like
>Want to play fun and silly decks on unranked
>4 Storm Haven in a row
Fucking brainless tryhards.
>>159322007
>>159321638
This is because most people run Dance of Death even though Execution exist. I watched one person play that amulet shadowcraft has that gives 1 extra card until countdown is over, he comboed it with some ghost summon so his countdown reached 6 which meant 1 extra card for 6 turns.
But, his opponent instantly played execution (for once), it was hilarious to see his reaction: "Who runs that card!?".
>>159321680
I hope you're not memeing on me. If not I'll use that.
>have a bunch of 1-2 drops
>literally never ever get them in first hand or before turn 6
>play dragon
>have 3 dragon oracles 3 of that qt that give 1PP on death
>never get them before turn 7
>>159322007
Which is why I absolutely love playing Earth right now.
The hag tears never stop.
But as any other class it's a living nightmare.
>>159322616
I tried making a Shadowcraft Deck based around the Bane mechanic. I don't think I had enough cards to be able to make it work though.
It didn't fly so good.
>>159322674
>>159322653
I only run Dance of Death and inferior class specific versions like Acolyte's Light because I haven't pulled any Executions from a pack yet and I don't want to craft anything.
>>159322556
hey, I have no problem with haven or elf, you do
rune and necro are cancer though with little to no board interaction until they have enough charges/souls
>>159322809
Stop relying on dragon!
I drew 3 harnessed flame and 3 harnessed glass somehow.
I feel like I need to make a meme deck with these, but I don't want to play dshint.
Any ideas?
>you outplay the arena sword cancer and win by the skin of your teeth
is there a better feel?
thank god I drafted this Incandescent dragon
>both out of evos
>he has a knight and urd up after clearing my board for the thousandth time
>4hp
>he emotes thanks and ends turn
>drop the dragon
>stares like 5 seconds without doing anything then suicides his knight on the dragon
easy win
>losing to a glory be in arena
wow that's kinda frustrating haha xd
>>159322828
>acolight
>inferior
whip out your Leonidas boys, I sure am hungry
same for that cancer necro 4/4 that dies only to spawn 2 2/2
>>159323067
>anything necro
>cancer
Bobby pls
I need a private match win
86804
thanks
This match was surprisingly fun.
>>159323067
>cancer necro 4/4 that dies only to spawn 2 2/2
Is the AI beating your ass raw or something?
is there any way to link an account with something other than google play or facebook? I'm on android btw.
>>159322007
>drops 3 turn 2 cost amulet
>Kaleidoscope Glow back into my hand when 1 turn left
this is fun. so much fun.
>>159322053
I completely forget it was a thing, possibly having erased it from my memory due to past bad experiences vsing it
>>159323232
Yes, sometimes I feel like all these shadowfags are indeed bots, that'd explain the perfect curve and BMing even when losing
>>159323164
Shitting on Haven is just a way to dismiss the fact that Luna is the true cancer but you can't fool me
seems like rune has all the good amulet counters
what sucks though is if they add more amulet counters bannercraft will be rekt too ;_;
>>159322658
It's a legit deck, pretty good as well actually.
My impression of the game based on the threads balance discussion is that literally everything is cancer and we're all faggots.
Correct Y/N?
>>159322923
>Just D0 things
>>159323389
It's mostly Elana Haven and Banner that use normal Talismans. I don't think too many people would tech it in because there's not enough match ups that require them
>>159322309
The "combo" is what that gives forest a lot of tempo. It is the what defines the class ffs. That doesn't mean it is OTK. There are multiple win conditions for forest. Roaches is the only thing that has storm so it is not exactly OTK. If a forest is smacking fairies into your face like an idiot instead of trading, by right you should win that game unless you are an utter shitter.
>>159322562
Forestscraft decks are usually expensive as hell, swordcraft have many low cost decks on the other hand which are just as effective if not more.
>>159323464
y
>>159323481
>t. D1
>>159323464
>everything is cancer
Nope.
>>159323464
>everything is cancer
No, just HSbabs whining a lot that COMPLETE AND UTTER BALANCE AMONG ALL is not present.
>we're all faggots
And I'm gonna drink one on that. Wish it was the different kind of faggot that doesn't complain all the time though, but what can you do?
>>159323464
Y
>>159323642
>but what can you do?
kys
>>159322007
>Odin's Fanfare (Neutral Legendary)
8 mana to play. Usually you already Garuda'd your opponent to death before turn 8.
>Petrification for Runecraft
>Runecraft
Also execution is bad because it cannot banish countdown amulets. It is only good against Elana.
>>159323464
NOT cancer
>shadow
>dragon
>earth rite
That's it.
>>159323464
Overall, the game is in a good spot from a competitive standpoint. There are, however, certain decks that are stronger than others, but I would be more surprised if there weren't any imbalances especially in an asymmetric game.
Some Crafts need to be tuned up, others tuned down, but overall, the game seems to be solid, which I'm chalking up to having former japanese MtG pros take the hearthstone template and thinking through with their design choices.
>>159323464
Havencraft earns 100% of its wins.
>>159323759
found the dragonfag
>>159323704
But kissing's for gay faggots, unless you're a pretty little girl or girl (male) I'm not interested.
>>159323646
OJ crossover when? I want a seagull deck.
Hearthstone player here.
Do Ranks reset every set duration? I got a gist of how the Monthly Score Rewards but will my rank remain unchanged forever?
>>159322007
>play a shit class or use a card that likely won't come down until it's too late, and even then it only removes one amulet
And people really think this is okay.
Would increasing HP to 25 kill all the dumb cheap aggro decks?
>2 Satan drops today
Is the game trying to tell me something?
>>159323862
Yes.
>>159323949
Yes.
Also pack healing. And don't call a playstyle dumb because you don't like it.
>>159323851
>New cards have dice throws
>Seagull deals damage based on dice while entering the field
Literally Hitler deck
>>159324025
it's dumb because those decks require zero thought, and cost extremely little to build
>>159323949
>aggro
>dumb
enjoy getting seraph molested every second game, casul
>dark priest
Okay, I didn't expect this card to be that strong in arena. Totally taken by surprise.
>>159323759
Your "not cancer" means low winrate. Here's mine.
MtG Fair:
>Forest
>Sword
>Dragon
>Earth rite Rune
>Elana Haven
MtG Unfair:
>Dshift rune
>Storm Haven
Need improvement
>Blood
Special snowflake
>Shadow
>>159323851
Do you meanAggro Armageddon?
>>159323759
>Not cancer
>Low tier decks
>Cancer
>Strong decks
Spot the assfaggot
>>159323862
In case the other response wasn't clear, the score and the rewards reset every month. Your rank doesn't, however. You're in B2 forever. You can only go down numbers, and not letter ranks.
>>159323862
ranks don't reset, only your score for collecting rewards does
>Vampire nerd drops Dire Bond at 9 HP to refill his hand
>Top deck Forte
>>159324091
oh yes, Dark Priest is a fantastic card. The only reason I don't use it in ranked is because Sister Initiate, Prism Priestess, and Sledgehammer Exorcist are such fantastic cards too.
It's so fucking wonder that Havencraft is so good in Arena. It has so many powerful class-specific cards.
>want to build aggro bat
>but it seems really draw reliant and inconsistent
>want to finish dshift
>but it gets fucked up the ass in the current aggro meta
>want to build royal banner
>but it seems like it's literally the most braindead deck in the game
what do lads, I want to play something other than garuda but I don't have 30k vials for mid/control sword or forest
Should I just keep playing with Default deck till I get enough for a meme deck?
>>159324172
>>159324175
So once I'm Master, that's it?
I just started playing since the Steam port and I feel like I'm ranking up too fast. Especially considering I'm using a deck with no legendaries and barely any Golds. I even got an 18 streak at one point.
Anyone mind being a babe and giving me my 30 sheckles?
74206
>>159324323
Dshift is cancer tier and you shouldn't run it unless you enjoy playing solitaire
>>159324323
Same. Been doing bannermemes since I started playingthree days agobut it got boring pretty fast.
>>159324380
post deck
>>159324323
Cheap aggro/mid shadow
>>159324380
Yep. Master is the end game. A0 or AA0depending on who you askare where the kiddy wheels come off.
You don't have to sandbag, though. There's no need. Perhaps you'll get cockblocked on the road by enemy decks for some natural sandbagging. Just get as high as you can then improve from there.
>>159324323
I am playing forest without ancient elves and Tia, only 1 roaches. It is doable.
Dshift can beat aggro, it is however very hard to play for people who only played mindless deck like storm haven.
>>159324410
Thanks!
Got the 30g private, anyone willing to help?
74692
>>159324552
>where the kiddie wheels come off
You mean where the fun ends and everyone plays the same boring tryhard decks?
>>159324330
Not really, if you need to actually win to do quests, so just upgrade your deck slowly
>>159324612
I am glad some of the top decks requires some thinking into the plays. Net deckers can never get pass those ranks just by netdecking.
>>159324601
Thanks for the help
>>159324491
>>159324552
It's been doing me great wonders. I do wonder if it's enough once I reach A0 or AA0.
https://shadowverse-portal.com/deck/1.5.63E_G.63E_G.63E_G.63HPo.63HPo.63FiQ.63FiQ.5_QqY.5_QqY.5_QqY.63E_6.63E_6.63E_6.63HPy.63HPy.6736Y.6736Y.6736Y.5_Qqs.5_Qqs.63E-0.63E-0.63E-0.63E-A.63E-A.63E-A.63HQ6.61LeE.5_TGo.5_TGo.5_TGo.5_TGy.5_TGy.63Kaw.63Kaw.659nE.659nE.63KbE.63E-U.63E-U#I'll drop Cerberus one day.
>>159324698
Which deck has the easiest time upgrading?
>>159324612
Fun is subjective, anon. I find my PtP forest deck quite fun :^)
But it's really up to you. People can make lots of things work in Masters. They just have to be able to tech in against the prominent decks, hence the increasing number of DShift in higher tiers due to the higher number of PtP and Tempo Forests and Midrange/Control Royals
So the 1 drop amulet that feeds you a soul per turn is pretty nutty.
>>159324776
Depends on cards you unlocked, but usually its either sword or haven
>>159324823
Any insight on how to play PtP? I only play forest in ranked and has PtP in my collection but that deck seems very hard to play from the get go.
>>159324958
Just cast a shit ton of spells and keep an eye on your Shadows counter (click on your deck)
>>159324830
It's only good if you get it in your opening hand and play it on turn1, otherwise it's garbo.
If you top-deck that shit in the late game when you got no cards, you're done.
>get to Masters
>can't ever get back down
>have to play Forest forever despite how monotonous I find the deck
>huge temptation to just leave the game
I feel like this isn't a good model for any type of ladder or ranking system.
>>159325105
>>can't ever get back down
I don get this meme. Its like people dont want to be matched with other of equal strength. if you're there you can clearly win.
Just do your quest in unranked if needed.
>>159325105
Dude, what? But isn't the the whole point of being master is that you can try literally anything without fear of dropping ranks?
>>159325197
>if you're there you can clearly win.
Or you know. You've played "enough".
Since you lose only 10 points when you lose a match, and get 100 points when you win.
>>159324958
It's not so much as playing PtP but juggling between win conditions that you have within your reach.
Most of the time you'll barely win with PtP, hence the general need for roaches and stuff.
Usually, I try to overwhelm the board at first while building up my hand and looking for Altered Fates. Rhinos help in deteriorating the enemy's health while being hard to deal with.
Flood the board with fairies, and if they get destroyed then it's just fine because it adds shadows and uses up their PP and cards to take down a multitudes of fairies. If they don't, however, then they take 3 to 4 damage which adds up a lot.
Eventually it comes down to math with rhinos and card management. Don't be that guy who accidentally decks out.
>tl;dr flood, keep control of the board. rhinos are one of your biggest win conss. ancient elf is broken. PtP is the icing on the cake when it gets to late game and helps to finish out
>>159325197
With that one specific deck, yes
but if you want to play anything not meta, you'll win maybe 1 out of every 20 games, whereas if you were rank B you'd win every 2-6 games or so because there's a lot more diversity
>>159325197
>Just do your quest in unranked
>everyone brings the exact same shit from Masters to Unranked so it doesn't matter
Not even going to mention how realistically the only way to lose points and NOT get into Masters is to either be a complete shitter or just outright not play Ranked enough.
>>159325230
>try "literally anything"
>they all lose to Haven and Forest so it doesn't matter
This is fun. This is what fun is supposed to be.
>>159325105
They should only reset after a new pack is out to be honest.Or do they actually do that and I'm just unaware of it?
Realistically how would you nerf forest and haven? (buffing cards from other classes is also a valid answer)
>>159324774
Shit nigga that's cheap, I'm amazed you made it this far with that.
>>159325293
When to drop ancient elf? I didn't have her but now I got enough vials to craft her. From my experience Ancient elf is very easy to deal with, at least most of the ancient elf that my opponent dropped is dealt with in 1 turn and I still have my board.
>>159324774
i cant imagine playing face shadow without cerb
you need to save up
>>159325441
haven's winrate is fine
I think the dumbest thing about forest is roach, especially cause it doesn't fit the craft at all
>>159325539
Turn 3 4/5 Ancient Elf is the goal.
>>159325542
I can afford it right now if I liquefied a bunch of my Gold and Animated cards, but I'm afraid I'm the kind of person who hoards cards. Especially considering that Animated can't be crafted.
If I find A or AA too difficult, I'll probably give in and make her.
>>159325539
Other anons would vouch for the fact that Ancient Elf is over-statted/overloaded for its cost.
At 3 PP, it's a 2/3 with ward which is pretty much on curve. When you already have a board, it becomes even bigger and harder to deal with depending on board state (considering that it can potentially be a 5/6 on turn 3 and most removals take at least turn 4 or 5).
You can also use ancient elf for bounce, obviously, such as with Tias. Play a fairy, bounce a tia, and bam you got another 6/6 with ward. It's a little negative tempo in the sense that you're returning your board but instead of separating the stats you're piling them up onto one follower which hopefully the enemy can't handle.
As the other anon said, Turn 3/4/5 is best. It still has utitlity late game with it being a ward and a bounce in one.
>>159324774
Good to see another Shadow enthusiast. This is what I'm using (on the right is 2x Cursed soldier).
Still works even at A0, sometime I run a midrange list as-well for fun.
>>159325705
Did you ever bounce back a damaged ancient elf?
>>159325441
Roach is now a 0/1.
Aria has 4 countdown.
There.
>>159325857
>Wind God
I've seen this shit a bunch of times now. Does it really work? I see that you also dropped x3 Tempest. Can I ask why?
>tfw starting to encounter netdecks at D1 and can't reroll
>>159325857
>>159325960
That Mordecai Shadow anon here, I have Wind God as well, I refuse to believe that Wind God works, especially that I own one. It looks like a win-more card.
>>159322784
>Field something good and evo it to bait the opponent into blowing his evo too
>Other guy just plays highway to hell which also summoned a ghost for him to use it on
Feels bad man
>>159323206
Jesus christ how horrifying. how'd you win?
>>159323389
Banner deserves it though. It shits out a bazillion buffs that are pretty much doubling your pp value moving forward as long as you can sustain your hand. It's brutal. I was 1 turn away from winning until a leonidas+banner eviscerated me.
>>159325872
Bouncing a elf with another elf is fun.
>Seraph Elana versus Rune in AA ranked
>"Whatever, I have no chance, lets just do nothing"
>Do nothing for 5 turns. Get all of my Elana healers but no Elana. Heal turns 6 through 7.
>Tons of wasted draws but I don't really care
>Turn 8 throw out Seraph.
>Rune uses everything including 3 Dshift to finish me, but apparently hasn't finished spellboosting properly and leaves me with 3 hp and him having 2 Flame Destroyers.
>I don't even have any cooldown reducers. Win 3 turns later.
I did have a Themis though. He must have cycled through a ton of cards. I feel like all Rune should be running petrify.
>>159325960
Win God helped me a lot when trading or if I can do a Phantom + kill a ghost + wind god. She's basically Cerb no3 in term of curve even if she works completely differently. She also NEED to be killed most of the time otherwise your other minions that they ignore (like Hell Unleasher) becomes very annoying.
>x3 Tempest
Well it seems that it would be good only vs elf. I'm against a lot of D-Shift, Havencraft and elf lately and so far the extra bodies to push through seems to do a bit better. I guess it depends on what pocket of the meta you're against.
>>159306525
I just finished this drawing, should I continue?
What's the meme rhino of shadowverse?
>>159325837
One more question. Is elf knight Cynthia better than wind god or is it the other way around? I mean obviously having both of them in the deck is good, I just want to know the comparison between their power.
>>159326142
I see, Having more than 1 ancient elf in the deck should be super fun.
>>159326087
Yeah, Cynthia and Sage Commander are terrible cards.
>>159325857How do you get the Deviant Heart flair
Be honest
Can you actually have a good start in this game without rerolling?
Every single enemy I've random battled basically has a completed deck compared to the random mix and matches I've gotten from draws.
>>159326168
>I feel like all Rune should be running petrify.
While i don't disagree seraph isnt the reason they should. They're already heavily favored in that matchup and you should not tech against something that you already beat easily outside of really bad luck.
Could someone concede a private match for me please?
50751
>>159326256
Wind god comes down a turn earlier and works as extra Cynthia copies.
>>159326252
cute
>>159326252
DELET
REMOVE
EXCOMMUNICATE
>>159326267
? Cynthia is used in most tempo/hybrid forest decks.
HELP
>>159326256
Cynthia is better in every respect even with 1 more cost. Besides better stats and having the evolve effect she even buffs followers that come on the board after her too.
>>159326576
>Rogue's Creed
Gee man, I dunno.
>>159326256
Wind God is your substitute Cynthia.
It is without a doubt much better, however there are some instances where Wind God would be better.
For example, you're waiting a little so that your fairy can have 3 attack instead of 2 to take down a 3 health ward, I guess. Cynthia is much better statted, though. 5/6 compared to 2/5. When you evolve Cynthia, you pretty much get 3/3 or 4/4 worth of statsI can't say for sure since I haven't been able to get any myself REEEEEEEEEEEEBut yeah. Some people include both wind god and cynthia in their tempo hybrid decks, but it depends on which netdeck you follow, I gess
>>159326510
It's sarcasm.
>>159326576
Right
Probably a silly question, but can you craft a card you haven't rolled yet?
>>159326410
I didn't reroll and got a bunch of decent legendaries but no main theme between them.
I have been on a 22 game winstreak with ghetto control blood and ghetto middy dragon.
I'm only at C3 rank right now cause I mostly do unranked and t2, but I honestly think you just need to be better.
>>159326576
Right
>>159326670
Yes
>>159326670
Click "Create" underneath your Cards collection to view everything and craft them.
>>159326589
She comes down a turn later at which point there might not be a board to buff.
>>159326670
All except basic and animated cards.
So I just started out with 2 Vanias and I have no idea how to build an Aggro Blood deck without crafting a lot of the required cards.
As it is I can't even beat the Elite AI with my garbage cards.
Not sure how to progress from here.
>>159326626
wind god is better defensively. It's cheaper and doesnt require your minions to attack for the buff to happen.
>>159326410
I literally started with this piece of trash reroll since I thought that getting Aurelia and Otomeme was the best start ever for control sword. Boy, I was wrong.
This was back when Gabe and Satan were free, too. I barely had 5 legos to my name, but now I have PtP forest on the way to hybrid. Just do what you can, anon.
>>159326605
>>159326640
>>159326710
>>159326790
arigatou
>>159326410
Of course.
Just get lucky on the first roll :^)You can definitely play and do well early on without any money, even in ranked. But once you hit A/AA, you'll wish you rerolled and had some good legends.
>>159326853
It's the opposite. Wind God is more Aggressive. The Wind God builds are all generally more like old Sword aggro.
>>159326252
I could use a good fap, so yes. Keep up the good work
>>159326325
I think its the lv100 one
>>159326872
It's good to have some strong legends starting out but it's also good to just play to start getting rewards and missions. You only really need 3-4 decent legendaries to get started honestly.
how does ambush and ward work together
they probably dont
>mfw temple defender against forest
>I fell for the D-Shift meme
Sucks to be me, I wanted to build a Runecraft deck from the moment I started playing and now that I finally have one, it's pretty shit.
Probably the most fun when it actually works though.
>>159327182
Ward doesn't activate until the ambush is gone.
>>159327182
it will have both ward and ambush, but it can't be targeted so the ward won't do anything. if it attacks and loses ambush, then the ward will take effect.
>>159326254
this
>>159326429
Roach is a weird one when in comes to comparing it with Magic. It's basically a one-card combo that doesn't need to be built around since Forest doing Forest things is already what Roach wants. Maybe you can compare it to Skullclamp, but Skullclamp doesn't win the game on its own.
>>159326267
How's sage commander bad? I'm new
>>159326410
I got a bunch of random legos and golds from my draw. Been doing campaign and dailies to get even more packs. I've been doing alright in ranked for dailies.
>>159324380
I've heard you only need ~33% winrate up to A0. After that over 50% is required. I believe once you are at Master you get a score rank that resets every month.
Why wont shadowverse install on leapdroid
>>159327302
It's a hard life but keep at it.
The more Seraph haven decks that get crushed,the better the world becomes.
>>159326772
this is what i'm running right now, literally just started playing.
https://shadowverse-portal.com/deck/1.6.67UiU.67UiU.5zWmC.5zWmC.5zWmC.5zW_g.5zW_g.5zW_g.5_pF2.5_pF2.5_pF2.67RXW.67RXW.67RXW.67WPs.67WPs.5_pzw.5_pzw.5_pzw.5_p-4.5_p-4.5_p-4.5_pFM.5_pFM.63dQ4.67RXC.5_pFg.5_pFg.5_pFg.63dP8.5_p-E.5_p-E.659nE.659nE.659nE.67Yro.63kio.5_sQA.5_sQA.5_sQA
please send help, is there any way to improve this deck with just the default cards i've been given?
>>159327383
Sarcasm.
>>159327346
doesn't change the fact that it's a retarded card with inifinite combo potential that can be played at any moment of the game
>>159319972
>>159320546
Literally went 5-0 and didn't even get to drop ANY of my three legendary cards ONE time
>>159327462
I can do the same more efficiently with Storm Haven, Aggro Bat or Face Dragon though.
What you mean is Elana Haven.
>steal a win from a storm havenfag because they simply refuse to do anything but go face
>>159327478
>Fighter
You must have some other 2/2 two drops that do more than nothing.
>>159327478
Replace Fighters with Unicas.
Can someone explain to me how path to purgatory works?
Effect says it only works with shadows but someone with a fairy deck was able to use it.
>>159327589
Yes, which isn't what Siege Rhino is at all. I'm not saying Roach is a great and balanced card. Quite the opposite. I'm saying it's so ridiculously strong and dominating it's hard coming up with a comparison in Magic.
>>159327880
All decks use Shadows. I think all decks use all mechanics, its only a matter of using cards that use those mechanics
>>159327880
>Shadows: Graveyard-like mechanic. Whenever an amulet or a follower is destroyed, a spell is used, or a card is discarded it becomes a Shadow. Banished cards do not create a Shadow. Shadowcraft interacts with these Shadows directly, but it is not unique to the class.
Source: http://pastebin.com/xNmQuDzR
>>159327880
Shadow is a fancy word for graveyard. Every magic card or dead minion lands in the graveyard (becomes a shadow). Shadowcraft is a bit special since they can directly manipulate their graveyard.
>>159327880
It wasn't adequately explained in the tutorial either, so it's fine.
Generally: Shadows are your cards that were sent to the "discarded" pile.
These include:
>used spells
>destroyed followers
>destroyed amulets
>discarded cards from hand
Shadowcraft can more directly utilize it by spending their shadows however generally everyone should be able to use PtP as long as they discard enough cards or have enough followers destroyed or have enough spells used.
>>159306650
>thought I would unlock some final episode if I completed all the story mode
>All I unlocked was disappointment and a shitting TBC screen.
>Keep 2 BLACKened in my opening hand because Fortecraft with Forte sleeves
>Plays a 14/14 Angel Crusher
>Win with 6 life left
new thread?
>>159315439
>tfw no otohime animated card
why live.
>>159327708
My only other 2 drop is Sweetfang Vampire which is a 1/3 with drain. Not sure if I even wanna take that over a vanilla 2/2 when my goal is to get below 10 health.
>>159327776
Do I get that card for completing one of the story missions or something?
What core cards do I need to draw to get started with a vampy deck?
I was going to win but I evolved the wrong one
>>159328182
I'd trade it for an animated Aurelia desu
New thread
>>159328285
>>159328285
>>159328285
>>159315439
>you will never wash Sea Queen Otohime's bare feet with your tongue
why even live
>>159328194
No, DE packs only.
>My goal is to get below 10 health
I know Vengeance looks like a neat concept, but in general, it's something of a comeback mechanic rather than a goal. If you actively try to kill yourself, you will kill yourself, surprise.
>>159306525
I guess you could say she's pantsu on head retarded
>>159328194
>my goal is to get below 10 health.
Stop. Your goal is to win the game. Killing yourself only makes it easier for the opponent
>>159328194
You have to either roll them or create them. They heal face for two everytime at the start of your turn. Even if she doesn't get a heal off, she does function as a pseudo-ward by being a priority target early game.
>>159328310
I have animated Ancient Elf.
>>159327996
>>159328094
So hags get double or even triple shadows for the price of 1 amulet?
Such bullshit class :^)
>>159311939
>weeb card game has Tomb KANGZ while GW squatted them
Right in the feels.
>>159328289
why did you do that?
Why does this game have a lower rating on the app store than such noteworthy games as "Epic Cards Battle (TCG)" and "Order and Chaos: Duels"
>>159329418
Probably got dinged hard from the 25k or so people at launch when it almost immediately crashed the servers.
>>159314249
source?
>newfag with shitcards
>finally looks like I'm about to win
>enemy pulls some bullshit card that turns game around
every fucking time
>>159322809
Mister Dragon~~
Jesus fuck I hate ancient elf so goddamn much
Asking.
For play shadowverse need powerful smartphone? (quad core + 2GB)
>>159314579
I love this one its so cute
>>159333709
My Moto G handles it easily.