/svg/ - Shadowverse General

First for Vania a best

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Doggy thread?

Erika is my wife.

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>>159291186

Guy I was playing Take Two in private with, that last deck actually had 2x Prince of Darkness

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[NOISES OF WILD ANIMALS]

>>159291094
Stop making threads early, faggot.

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>Hardcore lolicon
>Don't want to do anything lewd to Luna and only protect her
>Want to make her happy
>Playing Shadowcraft for her
Is this love?

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>>159291272
I want to fuck this dog.

>>159291318
Lucky, I was super unlucky with my drafts, I didn't get offered any of the good swing cards. I also played poorly a lot of the games. Sucks to suck, being new to a game again is the worst.

I've got 2 Fafnirs, should I liquefy one of them so that I can make a third Forte?

I already play Hearthstone and Duelyst, besides waifubait, what exactly does Shadowverse bring to the table that these don't?

>>159291508
NP, you didn't lose anything by playing there, and I got a bunch of practice drafting classes I don't normally pick. Just keep at it.

>>159290572
>Too few low pp cards and you lose to guys that do and spam decks
>Dudes that spam the field with low pp and summons/last word summons chew up wards and strong guys
>Too many low pp and you both can't wipe out high pp cards, lose the field trying, and have empty hands as you burn up cards and bad draws
>Draws replenish your stock from rolling low pp but you burn pp, field advantage, and rapidly push yourself to an auto game over from card cap if you can't j-j-jam in the knot in the process
>Spell cards basically fuck everyone over with single target killers and board clearers immediately reversing momentum as well as yourself when you say, get a board cleaner you have no use for when you needed a mon but can't afford to waste it cause you only have 1 or 2 down the road and you will need them
>If it has an ability thing you can't utilize, it's basically worse than a pure
>You need some form of amulet removal but having that weakens your deck if it's not necessary and if you don't get and still have it when you need it you're just hurting yourself
>Stupid legendaries like leonidas that are bascially play this and the enemy may as well kill themselves
>You can't hold the field so you can get attacks in cause of eight kinds of bullshit and evolutions will keep breaking your grip
>You can't ignore clearing their field to get attacks in cause you're a spell or ability away from getting assblasted and never being able to recover on top of various healing shit and not being able to heal yourself above your initial hp
So bloody frustrating

>Misclick and lose becuase of it
FUCK

>>159291512
If you want to play Face Dragon might as well. Fafnir is really good in midrange though, so if that ever becomes good again you'll want two.

>>159291535
The game's mechanics show much more awareness by the developers than Hearthstone's, there's a wider viable card pool despite less cards in the total pool, balance is good, and it's extremely easy to get by without money. Actual mechanical detail doesn't make sense without context so you'll have to play it to see how that works out, but evolution is great.

I haven't played Duelyst but Shadowverse is actually being produced by a major company with an advertisement budget, so you're assured that the game will be alive and healthy for the next half decade at least.

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>>159291501
>Tfw I've recently gave up all delusion of me not being a lolicon.

>>159291535
It's much less random than Hearthstone and the game is pretty generous to players starting out and for rewards in general. The classes do not have a hero power or ability and instead have a secondary resource to manage or some other passive ability for their class cards. There's also a mechanic called Evolve that allows creatures to make tempo swings or gain extra abilities. Evolve allows a creature to gain stats (usually) and bypass summoning sickness to attack other creatures immediately, but you can only do it 2 (first player) or 3 (second player) times.

>>159291508
Are you generally trying to draft around six 2 drops, then prioritizing removal and direct damage effects over big bodies?

It's legitimately impossible to win chapter 7 of the dragoncraft campaign.

>Failed to initialize Direct3D.
>Make sure you have at least DirectX 9.0c installed, have drivers for your
>graphics card and have not disabled 3D acceleration
>in display settings.
>InitializeEngineGraphics failed

>Directx 11, driver up to date, 3d accel is on
Searched last thread, anyone else having problems?

Do rankings ever reset or decay?

>Enemy loses in arena
>Instead of just conceding, they DC and delay me half a minute
I can tab so it doesn't matter, but it's strange.
I always see Japs pulling this shit

>>159291860
It took me 9 tries. Praise the RNG friend

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>>159291636
See you're already way ahead in the game compared to me, I don't have any idea what you just said in half of those lines. I don't get frustrated because I don't have a grasp on any of that. I'm just pressing buttons and cute anime girls appear on screen. My job is to stay in the game long enough to see more anime girls and then put my skelefuckers to play to get them off my fucking field.

>>159291887
Only Master Score resets.

>>159291887
Only master

>>159291870
just a wild guess but have you tried installing directx 9.0c runtime packages anyway? there might be contain components specific to that package

>>159291947
do DC's affect their ranking? I remember a game a couple years back where they dc'd to protect it.

>>159291860
git gud son.

Also, make a better deck than the default deck.

>>159291851
My usual drafting priorities are:

4 mana evolve swing > early game > removal > big dudes

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>>159291860
The last chapter of forestcraft makes the rest of them look like a joke.

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Hello /svg/ I have been playing for a few days with absolutely 0 CCG experience, mostly as midrange shadow with mord/urd/ceridwen wincondition
My winrate is so low that i stay in C without sandbagging which is ideal because i have pretty much absolutely no legendaries relevant to my shit
Thanks for listening, and yes I have a banner deck but it is missing a lot of shit and terribly optimized because I staunchly refuse to netdeck
>>159291860
Sometimes the rng is perfect on the AI side like with the elite bots, just keep trying

>>159292127
Fucking broken NPC meme decks

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>get dshifted T H R E E (3) times in one match

horseshit

>>159292118
Oh true, the ridiculous 4 drops are definitely a priority, I forgot to mention them since its always a snap pick.

>>159292106
That's hard for new people who don't know any of the fine details other than pp pairing's and big numbers bully little numbers. It doesn't help that you also don't have a lot of cards and the enemy deck has a bunch of ways to clear your board then shove your shit in as soon as it dragon oracles 7pp 2 turns early.

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>>159291094
>>159291272
>>159291506
Every time I pull a Cerberus I'm happy, she can really turn games around.
>Combining Cerberus' puppets with that card that gives +2 attack and goes through ward
Every time I win with that it's like a magical high you can't come down from

How many Take Two matches have you guys won so far?

500 looks like it will be a huge timesink.

>>159292078
Just did that and still nothing. Really bungling my bum

Can I link multiple accounts to the same copy of the Steam game at once? I'm getting some decent legendaries, but I want to keep trying my luck without deleting what I've already gotten.

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Hey guys can I link shadowverse to my phone from steam? I never played on my phone but I dont want to overwrite everything on steam...

>>159292139
have you gotten the basics down by at least beating the story and all the elite ai?

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>another nip can't handle the loss and smash his cellphone
>countdown as usual
>at 20 seconds it stops
>see this
>nothing happens, can't open the menu
>wait for 5 minutes, still nothing
>have to alt+f4
>"stupid gaijin you dare forfeit our great game"
>defeat
Great fucking game 11/10 would kill hearthstone again.

>>159292447
No.

>>159292473
Yes, just go to More while on Steam and create a link code under Device Link that you can input on your phone.

>Pull off two turbo Atomys in a row
>Opponent has Dance of Death both times
abloobloobloobloo

>>159292584
Your internet shat itself. Stop crying.

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Are there any places where I can read up on how to improve at shadowverse? (Outside of just building decks, it seems that I have alot of trouble with handling bad match ups and what not.) or even places on youtube that are good for learning?

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out memed

>>159292719
Try to find a twitch stream and ask questions in the chat

Most of the people streaming are relatively good or have been playing long enough to teach a little

>get matched against Sword in T2
>lose
I
LOVE
THIS
MEME

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>>159292574
Oh yes, all that shit is long done. I'm reasonably good at the actual playing part its just my decks are total rubbish. I tried aggro bat and was pretty good despite missing most of the parts of it, i only have 1 vania and none of the gold bat amulet.

>>159292719

Game-ai does include mulligan tips and whatnot for some decks. Unfortunately, you will need to decipher the moonrunes.

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>>159292719
Pray you draw cards for your synergies, strategies, combos, and run meme decks.

>>159292585
Thank you so much anon I love you!

>>159291506
>>159291272
I gotta admit, this is a pretty clever way at making Cerberus an anime girl.

Is there a list of deck archetypes available? I read up on the differences between classes, but obviously there's going to be variation within the same class.

I installed this game because I saw that there were a good amount of skeletons as cards. How viable is a skeleton deck

>>159292314

>73 wins with four 5 wins

I intend to invest on T2 after piecing together those cheat sheets anyway, so I should be able to get to 500 within a month.

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I got an animated Satan, what's the best deck to use him in?

>>159292902

Shadowcraft has a couple of spooky skeletons, and most of them having Last Word. They are actually decent to deal with aggro in general.

They hate nigger priest, though.

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>>159292902
People are saying aggro shadow is good and most of their base cards are cute skellies with some zombies and loli necromancers mixed in if you don't mind that
Mordecai is best skelly

How do I optimize Ceridwen? Just shove in a fuckton of cards with ward or bane?

>>159293018
>illbleed webm
>of the killerman chapter
you have good taste

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This is my forest purgatory deck, I don't have 3 tia's but I added an extra elven princess mage and fairy beast. How the fuck do I play this deck against haven craft? Specifically talking about seraph deck and elana decks. Them two are my worst match ups

Does going first offer any real advantage.

It seems like the two extra cards at the start and extra evolution point more than make up for any advantage

>>159293015
wouldn't hate haven if they'd just stop banishing my hell's summoners

>>159292983
dragoncraft. You rush early playpoints and summon him asap

>>159291501
>>159291832
Lolicon is mental illness, seek help, there´s people out there willing to confidentially offer assistance to pull you out from pedohell!

>>159293168
Being ahead a point on PP and aggression is a big deal. Second turn advantage is a lot more apparent at low level games than high level games.

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Everytime I play a fucking Jap they do this shit when they're losing.

>>159293168

Aggro Blood cap you in turn 4-5 if they play first. That extra evo point won't be helpful when you are dead.

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Just unpacked another Alex so it only costs 5k for me to make Control Sword, should I do it?

>>159293291
dose tittays doe

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>>159293149
Thanks anon
>>159293107
Usually have to play her really late, the best you can honestly get out of her earlier is that 5 cost 3/5 with ward and that still kind of sucks because it won't get the necromancy bonus. If you wait REALLY late then she can give you an extra mordecai if he's been destroyed once already

>>159292983
Heal Seraph. I just lost a game where I did like 30 points of damage total but was unable to win before turn 10 where they dropped Satan with ward then next turn a 13/13 with ward. Seriously, that amulet that gives creatures with more then 4 defence ward is a heck of a cock block.

>>159291636
This is why you focus towards a win con. You're trying to play towards too many wins at once. Do you want your deck to finish games out quickly, become a midgame powerhouse, or stall until you can get big threats online? Tune your deck so it shines in one area and play with that power curve in mind rather than trying and failing to succeed all of the time.

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>>159293246
If this is wrong, I don't wanna be right

>>159292719
Honestly, improvement at card games in general comes from reading up on the cards and learning what to expect from what type of deck. The first couple of plays can tell you a lot about what their deck is going to be and you can adjust how aggressive or passive you play to meet the pressure needed to fight.
Match ups you can read up, ask about, etc, but even those aren't completely perfect.

>>159291860
Keep trying and pray to RNGesus

>>159292917
You don't need 3 Fairy Beasts or Elven Princess Mages.

Add in either Cynthias or Will of the Forests.

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How do you feel about this imp?

>>159293246
>pedohell
im in pedoheaven

>>159293397
Please report and ignore, ironic shitposting is still shitposting.

>>159293413
whoops, meant to reply to >>159293163

>>159293107
>>159293345

If you're playing Take 2, evolving Ceridwen when you have a solid 4-drop dead is a good idea for huge disgusting amount of tempo.

>>159293467
Waifu tier.
Truly a perfect girl.

>>159293345
Why was I under the assumption Mordekai revived, not created a copy of himself? Damn, that makes a lot of sense. Thanks.

>>159292719
Read Patrick Chapin's first book about Magic the Gathering. It has a lot of concepts that transfer over to pretty much any type of TCG, OCG, CCG, etc.

>>159293467
Pretty great card. I find it pretty hilarious that some people actually run Vampire Queen over her

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>>159293598

You can mass-produce Morde with Urd too. Too bad control Shadow cannot take off at the moment.

is mordecai the king of take 2? I only managed to win once when he got played, and only because I was about to win anyway.

>take 2 against haven
>turn 1 sacred plea
>turn 2 beastcall
>turn 3 blackened scripture+plea
>turn 4 priest of cudgel

even in fucking arena it's impossible to escape this shit

>>159293662
Nah, the idiots run wind god over her.

>>159293515
>Cynthias
>Will of the Forests
I don't have either of those cards but thanks for suggestion though

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>>159293526
That's good too, but shes just such an incredible draw on later turns (and take 2 tends to go on later usually) and sometimes it's not worth it if you're going first and only have 1 or 2 points left
>>159293598
Yeah him having that as a last words makes the urd combo great too. My shitty midrange shadow deck has one mord one urd one ceridwen and a couple rise of the deads that are fun to meme with if i draw them

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Animated FeelsGoodMan

>>159293690
I played around with it a bit, and honestly, the problem that sticks out to me the most is that it's very similar to Control Sword in a lot of ways but it doesn't have enough good wards besides Death's Breath to really stave off aggression and stabilize.

That could be fixed if it had good healing options instead but Shadow's healing options are only marginally better than Control Sword's with just Orcus. In some ways, you could say it's even worse because the 3slot is so important for Shadow that it's unlikely you can fit in healing angels, unlike Control Sword's relatively weak 3 slot.

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>>159293732

That title really belongs to Olivia.

>opposing Luna played Morde and evolved him
>tfw I played Odin on the following turn

>>159293614
You actually liked that book? I'm a pretty decent TCG player, and I felt like everything he said was either banal or so general as to be useless.

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>>159293734
Dont fret anon, earlier today I had that sort of haven deck but now I drafted one with a -single- amulet. Its very bad.

>>159293413
>>159293796
PtP doesn't run cynthia unless you're swapping to hybrid.

Will of the Forest is pretty good though.

do I still need path to purgatory if I just want to roach meme? what about rosetta?

>>159293467
Her lines are my favorite. She's so happy about all of this ,even when she dies she just shout "this was fun!"

>>159293971
literally every forest deck runs roach and bounces, whether you're playing midrange/ptp/rose queen/whatever

just take your pick and shove 3x roach in

>>159293874

If you fed him with 4 Shadow, Commander of Destruction is as good as Sader with 3 followers proc. The problem is that he's vulnerable to hard removal without the additional immunity.

After that, there's Wight King.

>>159293734
i'm surprised to see this more than shadow desu

They need to completely rework amulets and turn timed amulets into invincible followers that can be removed with destroy cards while not triggering their effects. Now that Haven has dozens of tools they need more than 3 cards in the game that can stop their momentum

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>>159293246
I'll live. I get off to far worse things than little girls.

>>159293467
I want use her thighs as earmuffs.

Does Mordecai maintain his evolution after dying?

>>159292314
I have 101 wins and have only won all 5 times two times. Apparently I suck at arena which is why I only play it with tickets now.

GOLLY

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what meme decks can i make with these if I have most other cards

>>159294178

It would be broken if he did

>came back evolved
>rushed to another big fatty and died
>came back evolved
>your opponent can no longer play anything big

>>159294101
I absolutely loath pretty much all haven decks but their amulets are fine the way they are i believe, it's the extremely efficient countdown reduction cards and priest of the cudgel that are the problem. Honorable mention goes to all elana shitters which make all healing cards/followers twice as valuable for 3 mana

>>159294178
No, but this does mean you can trade a pre-evolved Mordecai, then re-evolve him or use a card that grants rush/storm and trade again.

>>159294043
The problem is both of those eat your shadows up.

The reason Control Sword is good is because they can throw up wards all the way from 5-7 in multiple ways which lets them both catch up from their shitty 1-3 while also ensuring they survive to drop their big guys

aurelia or white paladin + 2 drop on 5
alwida or floral + veteran lancer or white paladin + ruthless on 6
and shit like that

and then they can completely clean up on 8 with alexander. If you try to do the same thing with Shadow you're going to need something like 15 shadows by turn 5 to chain those together to protect yourself

>>159292314
41 wins. Only one 5, but no runs under 3.

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>>159291501
No it's masochism.

>>159293957
I find it too difficult to win with PtP, gaining 30 shadows is damn hard against elana and seraph decks. Why is WotF considered good? How does it synergise with Ptp

is sandbagging just a meme? i mean, are there any high rank players that actually regret going up the ladder too early because unranked missions are unbearable?

>>159294267
Priest of the Cudgel isn't any more of a problem than the other power 4 drops

the only "problem" with him is that shadow gets both their mechanic and their followers hard countered by banish. All they need to do is give shadow some tools to fight banish and cudgel is no stronger than dragon warrior - he already isn't any different against most classes anyway.

>>159294245
You can make a sick mythril golem deck

>>159294354

If you are at high rank, you are prone to face only netdecks, which makes completing dailies a chore.

>>159294351
You naturally want to hoard a lot of cards in your hand for Altered Fate to draw a shitton into your PtPs/more altered fates as well as generate maximum shadows

hoarding a bunch of cards in your hand = Will of the Forest generally is a 7+ damage aoe for 5pp, which isn't bad at all.

as for how to more reliably draw ptp, I don't know, but you are definitely doing something wrong. Elana should be one of your good matchups.

>>159294354
I just do my missions mostly in arena now after climbing.

>>159293690
Shadow does well as aggro since the only good legendary the class has forces it into hard aggro with storm, ghosts and pinging

Other classes do control way better

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>>159294389
On the inside I know you're right but i've gone 1st vs Haven as shadow too many times to still my anger

>>159294394
that card sucks ass pls

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Vampy is the cutest!

When do we get our twitter packs? I want to make sure I dont end up getting a vampy from them immediately after crafting my agro bat deck

>get matched up against 5 swords in T2
EPIC DUDE
FUCKING
E P I C
P
I
C

>>159294041
what's a good deck list for roach + thorn blasts then? do I just drop the purgatory for rosettas? or do I need fairy princess and shit?

>>159294503
>Not believing in the mithrol golem

>>159294403
>D2

Still facing Netdecks and memedecks.

Dailies will never not be a chore

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>>159294476

>only good legendary

Beel is cool. Even Atomy is played right now.

>>159294468
I've recently only started playing with forestcraft, and have been winning mostly with roach or rush down with fairies. I just need to get more comfortable playing with forest since I came from playing solitaire (dshift)

Is there any deck that uses three Olivias? I don't know what to do with these since I don't have much other endgame options for control decks.

>>159294471
that's a good suggestion, think i'll try that too

>try out the bat aggro deck in unranked cause i dont have any dailies
>curve out often and win fast
>try it out in rank
>never curve out
>lost everytime

>>159294607
Why is it called solitare?

>>159294476
Cerberus doesn't force the deck into aggro mode, the deck just lacks the tool to survive playing control right now. It has no good healing and not nearly enough wards to stave off aggression.

cerb is literally good in any kind of deck her flexibility is almost unmatched and I'd even say she's on par with ancient elf in a vacuum, just unlike forest, shadow doesn't have a dozen other ridiculous cards to use alongside her.

>>159294496
I know how you feel, I had to drop hell's unleasher from my midrange list just cause of banish, but just remember that even if they nerfed cudgel, scripture would still haunt us. We need them to give shadow some way to fight back against all that kind of shit.

>Trying to do rune dailies with a shitty earthrite deck
>Unranked is literally nothing but tryhard turbofaggots running top meta decks

What even is the point?

>>159293796
Can always substitute will of forest with dance of death.

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Does anyone have the best Control Sword decklist?

>>159294571

You will still get newcomers in-between netdeckers.

In rank A0 and above, you can only hope for a crazy curve or your opponent having a bad start.

The 6th I think.

>>159294724
Unranked is fun. No one wants to play ranked, cuz then it matters.

>>159294665
The way to fight back is to save your evolutions for your Last Words minions and pop them instantly.

>>159294845
>this is what shitter turbofaggots actually believe

>>159294943
I take pride in being beginner 0.

>>159294752
Play midrange, it's better

https://shadowverse.gamepress.gg/deck/control-swordcraft

But whatever floats your boat and 40k vials

>>159294724
Unranked uses your rank to find opponents

>>159294724
I mean you gotta get a feel and see how that top meta deck works before going into ranked. Given how majority of the new players can re-roll until they get the top deck in the game.

>Wonder why my friend knows whats going on in A division when his rank is currently C
>Turns out when he unlinked from DMM and moved to Steam, his rank apparently got reset, his matchmaker is still A division though

Huh, thats a strange bug

>>159295050
I already have midrange, I just want another sword deck with different matchups
also i've heard that gamepress is kind of shitty for decks?

>>159294546
I don't think you need fairy princess, I'm playing in AA2 right now and I do see rose burst once in a blue moon sometimes. I never seen them play Fairy Princess, probably because it's too slow and you got enough good fairy generation anyway. I can't tell you what's a good list but swapping out purgatories for rose queen sounds reasonable? Altered fate might not be that great for the deck though since you want to be holding onto your fairies rather than be using them for draw fodder.

>>159294752
here's mine:
https://shadowverse-portal.com/deck/1.2.65BUS.65BUS.65BUS.625lc.625lc.625lc.628AI.628AI.628AI.65z2e.65z2e.65z2e.61KvW.61KvW.65yJS.65yJS.65yJS.65-lY.65-lY.5-K1I.5-K1I.5-K1I.62D2y.62D2y.65vtg.65vtg.65vtg.62D2o.62D2o.62D36.62BLa.62BLa.62Ad0.62Ad0.62Aci.62Aci.661Bo.661Bo.65GMo.65GMo#_=_

I swap between running 2 angels and 3 assassins vs 3 angels and 2 assassins depending if I'm seeing more aggro or more slow decks on ladder at the time.

>>159294907
The reason I dropped hell's unleasher is because that tactic doesn't work precisely for it if you're going first. You want to drop him on curve and it'd be stupid just to pass the turn so all you can do is play him and pray nobody sees his weakness.

>>159294663

>>159294665
From my experience, the problem with Control Shadow isn't fighting aggro decks. It's that other control decks can just ignore whatever you're doing and instantly win when you're getting 5 Mordecais on the field.

>>159294752
http://game-ai.jp/shadowverse/control-royal-2/

Just use this as a template. It might be worth it to get rid of one Floral Fencer and a White Paladin to put in two Mirage Defenders too.

>>159294665
>>159295179

>hell's unleasher

It's funny how that list used in master still has him. I'd wager that rank is hag-free.

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>>159294663
>Gain an extra turn after this turn
>play 3 dimension shifts back to back
>skips your opponent's turn three times

i want to stick it up luna's pooper

>>159295190
You mean combo control like Dshift? I actually found myself having an easier time against them as Control Shadow vs Control Sword since I still ran 2 phantom howls along with 3 cerbs. 11 or 9 damage burst out of the hand is no joke when I need it.

I never had problems grinding out stuff like Elana unless they run the seraph hybrid

>>159295327
Yeah it really surprised me to see most slower lists in master still run him. Maybe he's still worth using because he is an amazing 4 drop when he doesn't get banished, but I dunno, shit felt too bad.

General tips for a standard ramp dragoncraft deck?

>>159295489
have a good curve and you'll win enough

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Alright so I know I got directx 11. I grabbed .0c and restarted steam and it still wont work. My video drivers are up to date. What's weird is I played it for like 0 hours after launch then came to play it today and now it doesn't work which is bizarre. I can't even find a way to turn down options or something.

I got a NVIDIA GeForce GT 525M card from like 9 years ago but I have no idea how to compare it to the store listed req cause all the card makers fucking meme. Req: Graphics: NVIDIA GeForce 7600GT (VRAM 256MB) or AMD Radeon HD 8470D

Apparently at some point I became unable to even play fucking stardew valley while I played other stuff waiting for content

>>159295415

I suppose he is still a fine 4-drop to play if you go first against 8 out of 9 classes.

Like, the last guide has the player stating that you can actually keep Unleasher against Rune.

Homecoming scraps for full vials FYI

Each homecoming is a solid 800 vials so good luck rolling those

>>159295573
8 hours*

>>159295596
I can understand why, back before DE I loved playing him against Rune. I could drop him, and if the Rune player tried to ignore him, evolve him and start throwing Cerb buffs on him to force the other player to answer him while I went face.

should I reroll for a bloodloli deck?

why is the meta nothing but face decks?

>>159295489
It's pretty much the same as always, except instead of 3 Dragon Warriors you'll run 3 Siegfried's. Unicorn and Mushu are probably the best 2 cost followers for ramp now. Neptune and Olivia should be in it too.

>>159295752
Because you need to stop being a C rank shitter.

Anybody got a decklist for beating Isabelle in the Dragoncraft campaign?

I've tried doing late game, I've tried control. I've tried aggro. Nothing seems to work.

No legendaries

>>159295752
Because you're in D rank.

>>159295752
I wish it was face decks. Then maybe I'd stop having to deal with heal haven.

>>159295752
I wish it was nothing but face decks.

I'd rather face 5 stormbirds in a row than one ptp to be honest.

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>>159293467
>been running her since launch
>everyone then said she was bad
>fast-forward to now
>people finally like her and see her as a valuable card

Took people long enough to come around, but I'm glad they did.

>>159294001
Also, this.

>>159295752
Eh, they tend to be common in D->B rank since its cheap

Meanwhile I am nearing the end of B3 right now and its often just Storm Haven, Elana Haven, sometimes DShift, sometimes Elf

I am starting to not see Banner Sword if at all, and if I do, I tend to crush them

>>159295792

I still don't understand how some have problems with story mode.

It's Rune, so you can actually aggro her face off. Get some Seabrand Dragon if you don't have Forte.

>>159295928
People thought she was bad?

I always used and still use her in my cheapo aggro blood deck since there's not much to complain about with a 3 damage storm that's hard to remove

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>control decks not viable
>complains about aggro decks
its like controlfags never heard of Dshift before?

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>mouse cursor brushes another card as you drag to play it


When will they fix this.

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don't let your memes be dreams

>>159295958
If you're new to TCG

>>159295573
if it was working and is now isn't, perhaps a rollback is in order. uninstall all drivers first, then install the working ones

Is it just me, or does Hell's Unleasher not seem very good?
In aggro I feel like using for 4 orbs for a 1/1 that you need to evolve if you want it's 4/4 to come out immediately is a waste of time.
Is there something I'm missing?

>>159295958
I dont have any dust and refuse to reroll.

Any other solution? Swordcraft (took me 23 tries on chapter 7) and Dragoncraft have given me the MOST trouble in this game so far.

>>159296141
Problem was I didn't install any drivers until it stopped working. Did an update and it was still busted

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Am I the only one who thinks that shadowcraft needs a better management of their shadows? I dont know how many times I used Foul tempest empowered when only wanted the 1 damage version, instead I have to do the empowered one wasting all my shadows.

>>159296154
I think its fair. The real problem is Havencraft just banishing it most of the time. Now THAT's loss value.

Just played Take 2 for the second time ever and got 5 wins. Who needs legendaries when you have Floral Fencers? Swordcraft too stronk.

>>159296043
>Dshift
>Control
That's combo not control.

>>159296154
He doesn't seem very good because you shouldn't be using him in aggro.

He's good in slower lists, his total stats are way above average and he's a good evolution target to take out 2 attack or less followers. People don't want to attack into him either or else they'll have to deal with the 4/4 immediately on the same turn.

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Fuck yo rhino
Fuck yo roach

>>159296154
It's pretty good against most classes except for Haven where it's super garbage. If you can get rid of something after evolving it and still keep it on the board it gets pretty good value. You don't really want the 4/4 to come out immediately anyway.

>>159296154

When you go first and play him, your opponent will have an headache.

If he trade-evo, your 1/1 will become a 4/4
If he doesn't, you just throw the 1/1 at something and the evo the 4/4 to kill something else.

He's good.

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>>159295993
The constant complaint was that a 3-damage storm minion for 6 mana was 'inefficient' damage output per mana cost and therefore bad. Also, almost every blood deck was control at the time, for some unknown reason, so nobody wanted an aggressive card like her anyway.

They were wrong, of course, but the idea that she was bad stuck around for quite a while.

>>159296258
Oh, and I forgot to mention he's an amazing card to discourage the use of AoE against shadow's board.

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>>159296251

>tfw haven't seen a single FF the last three times I drafted sword

I'm sticking with the loli from now on.

>>159296154
On aggro, you leave him out for a turn and if they don't answer him you evolve him to make a resilient threat which leaves a bigger threat if it dies.

On control, he trades with aggro weenies at a plus, can swing into something at 1/1 then leave a lich you evolve to get rid of a x/7 stats.

>>159296256
>implying dshift doesn't have cards to control the board

has an otohime ever outlived her guards?

Is this 40 pack thing a promotion for a limited or does it last forever?

>>159295928
Those poor bastards who ignored such cuteness.

>>159296428
I'm sure someone out there has played Forbidden Ritual against Otohime at some point.

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Honestly, Death's Tyrant is testing way better than Atomy for me. Almost every Atomy I play is answered right away, but Tyrant at 3 is winning me games as an imitation Imp Lancer.

any way I can switch the voices to jap?

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>>159296419

>dshift
>control

A few pings doesn't suddenly stop aggro.

>muh iceform

You just stall a turn while your opponent builds his board.

Dshift preys on control not aggro.

they're SO CUTE when they hop

does someone in cygames have a a bunny fetish

>>159296428
Sometimes if someone plays two Angel Barrages in a row or uses Foul Tempest and does nothing else.

>>159295769
Why no more Dragon Warrior?

FUCK THIS CAMPAIGN

>>159296361
It's just weird to me because she's better than Alucard in an aggressive list, and I'm pretty sure nobody had any problem throwing him in budget aggro blood.

their loss, I guess

>>159296562
I thought she said hump.

>>159296634
I run 2 Seigfreid, 1 D Warrior.

Is there a website where I can view the previous sleeves from each month?

When people say 11 burst damage with phantom howl, I assume that's including Coco and Mimi?

>>159295769
fuck mushu

I know dragon isn't in the best spot right now but fuck that card.

>>159296763

And an evo point.

It's literally FoN+Roar of Shadowverse. Not really that hard to pull off either.

>>159296769
>he can't deal with Mushu
LOL

>turn 7 against D-shift
>have lethal next turn
>he hasn't evolved a merlin
>he only evolved a time worn for the fireball thing to kill one of my minions
>he has a 0 cost 7/7 and two 3 cost dshifts

FUCK

>>159296471
What 40 pack thing? Is that how much new players get right now?

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>>159296559
Seraph confirmed best card, best waifu, best lifefu

>>159296634
Siegfried can destroy two followers with evolve too and he's still useful even after you run out of evolve points. If you're playing Unica or Mushu in previous turns it's likely the opponent is hitting them, and if they're removing them with spells early it means they aren't playing other followers. Of course you can use spells yourself to hit cards to combo with Siegfried too.

>>159296562
God I hope so
I want a bunny-girl leader for Haven so I can make a completely useless but thematic bunny deck where I just shove any card even borderline related to it into the pack.

>>159295368
this card should really end your turn the instant you play it

im sure it wouldnt change anything but it would be hilarious to see some people mess up ordering

>>159296823
It's not a matter of not being able to deal with him, but he's just really annoying in face dragon lists. Even though people talk about Siegfried more I find him less annoying than mushu, though Siegfried is the better card admittedly.

>>159296871

That awful aggro blood matchup stops it from being tier 1 though.

Post more loli semen demons

Holy shit, just had the most satisfying Take Two victory in a while as Forest.

>Pascales a Flame Destroyer to 18/14 and has a 6/6/ Golem + full board
>Forest Archelon him twice in a row and clear everything except Destroyer
>on third turn he swings at my face for 18 and refills the board
>I draw Noble Fairy and have Elven Archery in hand
>clear his board by making everything 1 health
>win with 2 life left

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>>159296970

This one, mate?

>tfw she won't ever be the priority to evolve.

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how i can beat this bitch?

>>159296219
Yeah, everyone wants it. They started to do it with the 3 mana DE card (deathbrand i think its called?), but they really need to make shadow spending in general a choice

>>159296823
Man, too often I play Face Dragon and see my opponents make super bad decisions when it comes to Mushu

One time a Haven evolved Prism Priestess, find Mushu becoming a 4/2 and then found himself trading a 4/4 body and a EP to kill it

Last two games for dailies I was up against a DShift and he decided to use Witch Bolt on a Unica I evolved to boost Mushu instead of on the Mushu himself, so he ate 10 damage to face the next round

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Man, skeleton knight looks so cool when evolved
I wish I had more of a reason to consistently evolve it

>>159297126
you're already dead kiddo

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>>159297064
>mfw a Bannermemes player taunted me when he thought he had lethal then sat there in horror as he realized my Mini Soul Devil gave me 1 HP enough to survive and win next turn

>>159297178
I evolve mine all the time to put more damage on the clock and dodge barrage.

>>159297064
So cute!

Is there a list somewhere to show which cards I should 100% liqeufy?

>>159297248
I swear no one even plays around its pings even in A1 no wonder blood wins so many games.

>>159297258
You still run him?

I find he gets wrecked by Forest badly and Angelic Barrage against other classes nowadays

>>159297226
I know, it's like the tenth time I try

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>literally fight NINE (9) swords in ten T2 matches
fucking E P I C balance Cygames
I sure love getting outskilled by a trillion weenies and a Leonidas that wins the game without you you being able to do a single thing about it

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Good forest start?

>>159297370
Kill him before he can play it. Duh

>>159297248
I once was facing a Tempo Elf and managed to bring him down to 1 hp

On the other hand I was sitting at like 11 HP and realized that he had lethal if he evolved a fairy among his board of fairies and Cynthia and went all to face

And then I wonder why didnt he do that and I remembered I had Mini Soul Devil on the board. So of course he conceded

>>159297301
No actually, I ditched him exactly for those reasons. But when I did run him I'd evolve him for the reasons you described, but when I did run him I evolved him all the time.

Him and Hell's Unleasher were great aggro cards evolved. I needed my Haven match up more than I needed my DShift though.

>>159297381
good. just missing the memeroaches and 2 more copies of ancient elf

>>159297381
Ask yourself this. "Do I really want to be an ELF?"

>>159297301

Not him, but he's still good. Most Shadow followers have 2 defense, so if they use barrage, they still cannot remove that 1/1 skeleton.

Forest matchup hurts with May, but he's the only followers that don't die right away to Sylvan Justice.

>>159297381
You cant trick me, you just filtered out your collection

>>159297406
>getting past their storm of hyperconsistent weenies that all buff each other in one gay orgy

How the fuck do I get matched against NINE Swordshitters in TEN games?

>>159297486
It's fairly cheap and easy to make the deck so it's kiddo's first meme

>>159297178
My nigga.

>Spartoi Soldier looks so cartoony and out of place
Almost all the skellys are amazing.

>>159297471
I prefer Bone Chimera honestly nowadays. Generates 3 shadows, eats up to 3 pings/fairies, gets punished less hard by Barrage unless they attack into it first which isn't necessarily always an option.

Though I ended up cutting him for Spartoi Soldier anyway.

>>159297596
I'm talking about Take 2

Why is going first so bad?
>cant evolve till turn 5
>less evo points
>draw 1 instead of 2
Going first is only viable if your playing a rush deck or forestcraft

Can someone concede for my daily? Match ID is 24236

>>159297286
Anyone?

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I picked left was that a mistake

>>159297669
all of them

>>159297638
It's a 3% win rate difference almost universally.

>>159297618
In control or aggro?
I assume control, because
>putting a 1/4 ward in aggro

>>159297623
Point still stands? Easy to throw together and rack up memes

>>159297686
It's pretty situational at this point

Right has a lot more value but you also need to watch your curve and Gemstaff Commander isnt really bad for its cost

Lack of a good curve tends to kill more than lack of good value cards

>>159297707
Oh yeah, midrange/control definitely. I wouldn't run any of them in aggro really, Deathchaser + Rabbit Necro seems like a better combination.

>>159297623
Swordcraft is the best T2 class

>>159297618

I'm more concerned about the low attack for both followers. Skeleton Knight actually threatens your opponent to do something about it.

Granted, I need to try out either of them when more elves are ruining my days.

>>159297686

Right has more value. Frontguard is a pain to remove and Odin kills a lot of things.

>>159297707
Soldier doesn't replace your attacker slots in aggro so much as Shadow gets him instead of Angelic Barrage.

He's kind of counter productive to your gameplan but he does work in the aggro match ups, and maybe more importantly, he's a huge help against Storm Haven.

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>>159297126
oh well

>>159297779
The low attack really isn't a problem for Bone Chimera since you can evolve it/buff it with Cerb and it discourages AoE, while Spartoi Soldier generally takes two attacks to remove anyway. Even if they send two 2 health followers into it to remove it, you can follow it up with Rabbit Necro to snipe both off next turn.

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Holy shit, what a great start.

Which one?

>>159297890
I mean playful necro, not rabbit necro.

Why does everyone say Cerberus is good? She seems bad to me.

>>159297686
Yeah I think it was a mistake. Frontguard General and Odin are better cards and also fit your curve more.

>>159297946
My personal gut says Olivia, if only for the extra 3 evo points.

However, there's probably some other anon who could number-crunch the values of the two.

>>159297890
>>159297952

Most lists don't even run playful nowadays.

That said, I suppose I need to try Bone at the very least. Too bad I can't build that atomy deck that runs it.

>>159298058
She doesn't seems bad. You can bet she's.

Where's Balthazar?

>>159298058
I thought the same thing when I started because she's below curve and usually doesn't get much mileage when she comes out, but she fits together so well with the rest of the deck and opens up so many options when she's in your hand.

You play a few games with Cerberus and then you go, "I finally understand!"

>>159298058
>it's a someone says Cerberus is bad episode

Are you going to say she's bad because she's only 3/3 too?

Once your at masters, are you there for good? Since you can't get deranked

>>159295782
>>159295817

i'm at b3 though...

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>>159298058

When you get ran over by ghosts on turn 6, you will learn to fear the doge.

>>159298143
Right here riding my dick... or something?

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My Current Decks = Memebanner, Aggro Bats, Garuda Haven and Mid Sword.

Should my next deck be......

Spell Runecraft, a Dragon Deck or Control Shadowcraft?

Is Storm Dragon any good? or is Face Dragon the only Dragon Deck worth making? Can I see someone's list for Storm Dragon?

>>159298215
That seems to be the case, more or less. If you want to get off of Mr. Bone's Master Ride, just remember, the ride never ends.

>>159298058
You really have to play her to understand, but to start off, the cards she gives you are better than normal cards. (Coco/Mimi are better versions of Blazing Breath and Keen Enchantment, and people already regularly put Blazing Breath in their dragon decks.)

On top of that, they're really flexible in that they can be used for both pp efficient board control or to push for lethal

The fact that they cost 1pp and are good cards on their own means you can smooth out your curve for the next few turns really well as well. For example, you can play Ceridwen or Charon on 6 and not have hanging pp since you can fit in Coco or Mimi too on the same turn.

Also keep in mind that Cerberus, Coco and Mimi all generate 1 shadow so Cerb generates 3 shadows on her own, which is great since you're leading into the death's breath turn and she can help you catch up on shadows if you need it.

Finally playing a 3/3 isn't a big setback on 5 because evolving her allows her to trade into any power 4 drop.

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what

>>159298235
Shut the fuck up urias

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>>159298446
Opening with angelic snipe to the face is a classic

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>keep playing against seraph havens
>switch to aggro blood
>keep playing against bannermeme

>>159298446
Is this your first time playing against solitaire?

>>159298446
gotta charge up your D-Shift stand, somehow.

>>159298446
Nothing wrong with that

>>159298143
T. Urias

>>159298446

>cheaper fate's hand
>bring you a damage closer to OTK

What's wrong with that?

>>159298202
Not him but her cost is the main issue, at least it seems to me. But trying to call out things like cerberus is the same as having a bunch of faggot fanboys hunting me down with a knife.

How hard is the main story

>>159298563
It's really not a matter of fanboying, Every single list, control or aggro runs 3 of her and she's basically carrying shadow on her back right now so that it's playable at all.

>>159298563

Think of her as a 5PP 3/3 that draws you two cards that will be relevant to you winning games. Then her cost is fitting.

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HIS HAND WAS ALREADY FULL WHY WOULD HE DISCARD A CARD

>opened 15 packs over the coarse of 3 days, not a single legendary and literally all the rares were useless trash

Share your pain with me /svg/

>>159298617
>>159298637
Sorry but it really gets to me. I get what you guys mean.

>>159298563
5PP is actually a really good slot for her on curve. I mean, it'd be better if it were lower but you'd have to think that it would also mean the stats would take a hit.

At 5PP, she trades or kills the evolution effect 4PP cards with an evo when you're first turn player and leaves something behind. She also curves into Howl combo, and if she cleans a priority target you can stabilize with Death's Breath reasonably afterwards.

The 5 slot isn't big competition either, all the best cards on it are really build specific, so it's not too bad having a card you can always slot in 3 of to good result.

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>>159298683
AAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHH

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>>159298617
Tfw playing shadow without a single cerb
>>159298762
I have very very few legendaries relevant to my trash tier decks, been playing consistently around a week + done campaigns and elite AI + bought the 600 crystal deal

>>159298683
So that's a boy right

>>159298762
That is exactly my experience the past few days except I just opened a Jeanne d'Arc.

I don't vial legendaries, so that's pretty much a wash for me.

>>159298643
Probably because he already has everything he needs to win in his hand and is just spellboosting.

>>159298643
Maybe he really needed to replace Fate's Hand with an answer.

>>159298643
Probably because spellboosting his hand is more important than losing a few cards. Do you not know how DShift decks work?

Why is Face Dragon so shit? The cardlist makes no sense at all, and I've had much better success just running my own variant. How the hell is this a top tier deck? The Dragonewt Scholar and Wildfang Dragonewt combo only works if you've got both of them out which almost never happens if your opponent has any spells or creatures at all. Instead you just end up discarding valuable removal spells and low cost creatures whenever you attack.

https://shadowverse.gamepress.gg/deck-archetype/face-dragoncraft

Seriously am I missing something here?

Are we ever going to get replays? I'm so salty that I can't view the next potential card I could have drawn. This is probably one of the shittest things about playing digital. You can't see the rest of your draws

>>159298980
>gamepress

There's your answer.

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>>159298931
He's a she, baby.

>>159298980
You could start by getting up to date lists from JP sites, they dont run those

is execution bugged?

I just went against a forest deck in take two with 3 roaches 2 ancient elves and 2 tias

im done with this fucking game

>>159298984

So that you won't blog something like the following

>lost because you didn't draw into your key cards
>furiously clicking on the deck to draw cards
>found out they are at the last 5 cards of your deck

Stop being salty. It's just a game.

>>159299136

Did you try remove an amulet with it?

>>159299143
Welcome to card games, anon!

>>159299195
my opponent did lol

>>159299049
>>159299114

I thought that too, but the JP list is exactly the same.
https://shadowverse.gamewith.jp/article/show/35303

>>159299049
>>159299114
Shitting on gamepress is fun and all, but that list is actually up to date and matches with the JP list.

Help /svg/ I cant stop myself from laughing to myself when I remember "GOLLY ITS CHILLY HERE", "YOU LIKE THE COLD!?" and "I feel slutty..."

>>159299195
>not wanting to have replays to improve
>not wanting to see what you could have played properly to close out the game
>not wanting to see your own mistakes
What's wrong with trying to improve at something you enjoy playing?

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How does my Face Dragon deck look?

There are 3 Fortes further to the right of course.

>>159299241
>>159299230
I was thinking more of this
http://game-ai.jp/category/shadowverse/leader-feature/dragon-deck/face-dragon/

The decks released in October dont run them

I just started campaign for Forest but I don't get how the deck's supposed to work. What's a Forest deck for a beginner like?

>>159299338
>http://game-ai.jp/category/shadowverse/leader-feature/dragon-deck/face-dragon/

I was just going off the resources in the OP. If this is such a great site, why isn't it in the OP? I mean you can't really ask for more from people than they read the OP, which I did.

>>159299241
Steam newfag here, why is Gamepress shit? The site doesn't seem that bad.

>>159299354
Generate lot of fairies
Use them to activate combo cards

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30KB, 820x108px

>>159299394

>not in the OP

Tell me about it.

>>159299289
Remove Imprisoned Dragon and max Siegfried.

Drop Dragon Warrior to 2 or 0 and increase Ironscale to 3. Your goal is to evolve to hit face, not trade, and Ironscale substitutes for the Dragon Warrior ping.

>>159299394
Well, if you ask me, theres probably the assumption that new people cant into JP in the first place

Which is rather questionable given that even the game-ai website allows you to generate deck codes that gives you a translated deck list

>>159299461
What are some of the good combo cards that I should look out for?