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never forgetti edition

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>What is Space Station 13?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FHH1vfY6HTA
http://pastebin.com/VNcX2Quc

>New player guide
http://ss13.moe/wiki/index.php/The_Basics
http://ss13.moe/wiki/index.php/General_Help

>BYOND client
http://byond.com/download/build/LATEST/

>Pomf Serbian, main /vg/station server
byond://game.ss13.moe:7777

>Test server
byond://ss13.moe:1337

>Public server list
http://byond.com/games/exadv1/spacestation13

>How do I connect to the servers?
Hit the cogwheel in the upper right corner of the BYOND hub and pick "Open Location"

>/vg/station forum and logs
http://ss13.moe/forum/
http://game.ss13.moe/logs

>Map renders collection: updated sometimes
http://game.ss13.moe/minimaps/images/maps/

>Coderbus, here!
https://github.com/d3athrow/vgstation13
@rizon #coderbus @rizon #vgstation

>Cryo Autism
http://pastebin.com/raw/YmAyagUa

>SS13 booru for all your SS13 images!
http://ss13.booru.org/

>How To Install BYOND: The Video Tutorial: The Movie
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-iWiZwv9f1o

>Nostalgia
https://boards.fireden.net/vg/search/text/ss13g/
http://ss13.moe/index.php/bans

>OP Pastebin
http://pastebin.com/raw/u40ABfJz
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First for slimes
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Vox are good people.
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>>159291971
thanks faggot
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>>159291971
>pic

He's not wrong. The only people who regularly read code are Coders (turbofaggots) and powergaymen (niggers)
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Remember to fight the Irish menace, resist the baddy paddy.
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>>159291971
Ah yes, out of the history of /vg/ station I don't think there is anyone I hate more than goofball
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>>159292504
Fuck off Cl*ster

You're just as shit tier as Celt and you both need to be banned. It's like Shitlery and Drumpf, nobody wants either of you around but you insist everyone does.
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S c o o t a l o o s
>http://ss13.moe/index.php/poll/73
S o o n
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>>159293327
That isn't me though.
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>>159292504
>>159293360
Oh, and fuck off with you 'lmao lets remove the roid' bullshit. You're fucking cancer.
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>>159293327
>>159293442
Ya, whatever faggot.
Good luck trying to get Spurdos in ever again, I'll block it every time.
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>>159293442
I've never said to remove the roid, at any point.
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>>159293442
I'd be all for removing the roid if it was replaced with another, more interesting place to explore and mine in. TGstation might be a deathmatch hellhole, but Lavaland is extremely fun to explore.
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>>159293748
You support PJB and Sonix's plans to remove it, ergo you support removing the roid. Now either tell them to fuck off with their retarded bullshit or fuck off.
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>>159293748
hey clusterfack you know what you should do and i would really appreciate it???
fix Bump()
:^)
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>>159291971
>I took 5 days off of work to play SS13
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>>159293818
Get lummox to fix bump
http://www.byond.com/forum/?post=2079322

>>159293805
Except I've never said that either, and you wont find a single source that I ever have because all you're doing is repeating a lie you've heard.
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>>159293903
Hey cluster remember the time you pretended not to be yourself in the thread but everyone knew it was you? wasn't that hilarious?
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>>159293903
lummox won't fix bump
lummox will never ever fix bump
it is up to you for you are the chosen one
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>>159293954
That was someone else, I was talking to them in the coder discord recently about it.
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>>159293903
>i've never said that
Except the design doc on google docs specifically had a comment from you on there stating that you'd support either one of their ideas if they went through with it.

Suspiciously enough however, it seems to be gone. Gee willickers, I wonder where it could have gone, maybe I'm hallucinating!

Or wait, maybe you just deleted it because you realized how fucking thin the ice you're treading is and shit like that could make it crack.
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>>159294261
You can check the revision history of every point within the document cant you?
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>>159294413
I've got no fucking clue, I don't screw with google enough to know that kind of shit. I do however fucking recall that there WAS a fucking comment from Cluster stating his support for either of PJB or Sonix' retarded 'remove the roid because muh vision' ideas.
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>>159294261
>Cluster gets called out on his shit
>suddenly vanishes
hmm....
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>>159295108
>ask for evidence
>guy cant find it but swear he remembers it

What more do you expect?
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How do I locate the spider ship easily?
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my body is on the asteroid, please don't remove it
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kayleigh is a vampire. we must unite to defeat her.
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>>159295254
fly mindlessly though space until you find it
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>>159294413
The doc's owner set the history to hidden.
Like, ages ago. Before the thread found it.
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>>159295906
there's no easier way?
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>>159295949
Hmmm....
Really.. makes you think
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>>159289595
What I personally like most is when antags put in effort to engange in RP and/or come up with something original. After all, it's their main job to make the round interesting for other players.
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>>159295967
ERP with an admin until they teleport you to it
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>>159296034
[bwoink]
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>>159296082
bwoink me harder anon-kun
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its been 2 hours isnt it time to switch shift?
please call it
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>>159295232
refer to
>>159295949

The evidence was there, but the fact of the matter is that now that you've deleted it, there's nobody to get to it.

Face facts fuckface; Everyone knows you are a lying, cheating asshole bent on enforcing your "muh vision" shit on the server, whether or not anybody wants it or not, and the second you try that shit, the community will rain down hell upon you, and more than likely, the big Cluck himself will come to smite your ass for being such a fucking shitter.
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>>159296283
>mfw he complains about 2 hour rounds
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>>159296189
[BWOINK]
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>>159296468
im triggered by the bwoink sound when i get revived or placed into cloning
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>>159296307
I'm not sure why you think that would be the case when it's such a retarded claim. The link itself is set to be that anyone can edit the doc, I don't know why google wouldn't let you view the revision history since the only requirement to view it should be edit from what I read online.

I don't know of any setting that allows an owner to force a document revision history to either show, or be hidden. I would like to know if there even if such a setting because I'd toggle it for you to prove this obviously false statement false once and for all.
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>>159296613
https://youtu.be/IxDOk5r8KUA
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>>159297081
something about this sound brings out a primal terror in me

it's just a tiny little bwoink
why is it so scary
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>>159297179
same here friendo, fucking bwoinks man.
they trigger me and make me scared
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>>159297179
it's like a lion's roar or a gun being pointed at you
it's telling you to fight or fly
but with a bwoink your only option is to try and helplessly explain that you killed the clown and the IAA agent because they had been harassing you since last round but it was a metagrudge but you're not to blame and you thought you got a PDA message saying they were lings but then BWOINK and you get told there was no PDA message and you fumble with the chatlog to look and see that there was something said in vox pidgin by a guy named "Fumblenuts" who was a known changeling and you try and explain this to the admins and as you're typing in the ahelp window an assistant comes up and starts handcuffing you and you spill your water all over your desk and BWOINK admin asks if you're going to reply to the ahelp and you post the message early and realize it isn't good enough evidence and BWOINK BWOINK BWOINK BWOINK
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>>159297436
FUUUUUUUUUUCK
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>>159297436
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vosxyQ9OfLc
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This image, from the Nanotrasen archive, is of the famed "Coder Anti-Fun Uprising" in which the Github Coders tore a path of death and destruction through /vg/station, removing any and all fun code. In the aftermath of the uprising came the "Coder Terror", a serious of violent reprisals at what the coders saw as negative - skill capes, Spurdos, and "idea guys." Many non-shit coders were killed in the violence.

In reality, many of the coders were misguided and overly zealous in their actions. In the time that followed /vg/station13 was plagued by shitty additions as no decent coders were left to keep the shit ones in check. To contemporary coders, men like Iamgoofball, Duny, and Clusterfuck seem a hero in their defiance in the face of criticism, but the vast majority they stand as symbols of Reddit, TG, and shitty Goon additions.
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>>159293351
Should be possible.
Many homes in America that have no health insurance would preform small and large home surgeries on themselves ease the problem but the there would be large chance for failures.

>>159296024
Looking at this listing is confusing when antagonism should have no limit but people still want to add a limit to it anyways.

>not actually bothering to do anything antaggy
Do something evil.
>"stealth" antagging
Be loud n easy a target so you become an easy valid.
>atmos shittery or singuloosing
Enginners don't really have much else but singuloose and super structures. Atmos can make cool stuff but it kills the entire station + them.
>wanton murderboning
Don't kill too many people
>strategically-placed bombing
No bombs allowed
>flooding the station with hostile mobs
No using science
>causing a non-antag revolution among the crew
No anarchy
>adminbus
Admins aren't allowed to have interfere. They may only answer ahelps and assist in RP


Regardless of anything I see it as difficult. Because
People have to die eventually.
People have to cover their tracks.
People use bombs because those are the most effective at accomplishing a task.
Anarchy is debatable.
Rounds would go dry and somethings would just be extended.

Maybe i'm just not seeing it from the right perspective.

Your'e a engineer traitor. How would you antag while following each of these.

Sorry for typing so much
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>>159297739
You want to change the server? Learn to code friend
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>>159293351
RIP surgery while standing over a collapsed table.
You are missed a little more with each passing day.
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>>159297830
It was a hierarchy, you silly bugger. It was a listing of ways to be a traitor in order from least to most entertaining [for the crew], with the goal of every good traitor being to do something towards the middle or bottom of the list.
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>>159297856
Fuck off Cl*ster. The players matter more than the coders, and what the players say, goes.
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>>159298278
When they code it
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Nets added when?

They'd be like bolas, but they'd restrain your hands as well as tripping you.
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>>159298454
when i say net
get ready to net
NET
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>>159298454
Only if they're large objects that can't fit in a backpack.
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>>159298416
>>159298416
>lmao i koded it it should be added wtf i did all this work fuck you im da coder not you

Fuck off, you entitled shitter. "When you code it" is a shitty practice, and you are a living fucking example of it, you and every other fuckface who thinks that coding something means it should be added.
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>>159298454
Only if a tiny net is a death sentence
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>ONE VAMPIRE
>ONE
AND HE DIED
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reminder that Captain was a huge dipshit
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>>159298454
ROBBIE ROTTEN SUIT WHEN
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Damn, that robotics round was comfy.
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>>159298570
Isn't that pretty hypocritical considering you're probably one of the same people who complain like crazy when any single thing ISN'T merged? Like skill capes for example.
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>>159297830
>not actually bothering to do anything antaggy
Not set up an engine.
>"stealth" antagging
Break into rooms the armory (etc.) from space.
>atmos shittery or singuloosing
Vent the distro to space. Bolt exterior airlocks open.
>wanton murderboning
Meme engine followed by railguns.
>strategically-placed bombing
Sure. If by "strategic" you mean "medbay, then the bar".
>flooding the station with hostile mobs
Fuck off into space, come back with 6u+ of mednanobots.
>causing a non-antag revolution among the crew
Bolt important doors open, then wait for the tide.
>adminbus
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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>>159298653
and we sent a detailed report on it to centcomm right after it happened.
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>>159298653
>start bartism project
>vamp runs up and flashes me when no ones looking
>drags me into the fitness room, punches a light and shocks himself
>walk away and spill the beans
>continue project in peace after hes given the ol' catholic gangbang
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Good shift.
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>>159298570
Except I agree with you that not everything that gets coded should be added.

However nothing that doesn't get coded gets added.
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CYBORG REPAIR ARTIFACT

hurray for actually useful artifacts

>>159298764
did you crack the safe?
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>>159298818
I actually completely forgot about the safe. Double firebird good enough for me.
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>>159298697
>implying things
>LITERALLY FUCKING IMPLYING THINGS

Okay, if we're implying things, then you are probably retarded judging by what you just posted.

And for the record, no, I am not one of the people who complains when shit doesn't get merged. I DO complain when retarded shit DOES get merged, because 'he coded it so it goes in', regardless of whether or not it's actually been asked for by anyone, or approved by the community as a whole.
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>>159298454
>>159298680
I will ban DrCelt and InTGracy forever + a day if we can get Robbie Rotten suits for Nuke Ops
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>>159298865
its empty i believe. unless someon actually updated it.

they really should make the safe have actual good shit in it. maybe a randomized spellbook
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>>159297830
Antagonism doesn't have limits (if you don't give a shit about other people's opinions. You can do anything except ERP.

I mean, this is a huge sandbox game with only like 10% of the box available to you because of rules. How often do you wanna do some project during a round and can't in fear of getting banned? Antag roles don't have this restriction, and if someone can't come up with something better than singuloose or bombs, kill yourself honestly.
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>>159295967
Fly out a couple of times with a jetpack and gps, you'll quickly learn to pinpoint the relative location every round, back when I actively hunted for it every round it was always in the upper right quadrant.
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>Viro goes around shilling his virus
>It's a """""""good""""""" virus
>Turns out he wasn't lying about his virus and it didn't have something like suprise gibbingtons as the last step
>Station didn't end with plasma fire spider roaches
Almost kinda sad it went good. I like it when viros cook up something crazy like plasma spiders gibbing all while everyone has broken legs. Also nice to see it was pill only to spread it, making thinks optional is nice.
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>>159298875
Foster posts with a trip, but this is a good idea
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Fucking francophobes
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>>159299447
Not always, usually only when Celts being a fag. That post was me
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>>159299959
Objection! Celt is always a fag.
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>>159300000
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>>159299419
>Also nice to see it was pill only to spread it,
There are disease that can't be spread by blood, but none of those diseases can be bioengineered.

Also of note, non-alterable diseases that can be spread will always spread by contact from corpses.
Even if that's not their normal method of spreading.
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Now watch, and learn
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>>159300068
>telesci can teleport infected corpses into other departments in seige situations

Holy shit, you just changed my life
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>>159300558
Nurgle is proud.
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>>159300558
N A T I O N S just got even more N A T I O N S-y
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>>159300679
It wouldn't help in nations

Viro isn't in science

If science is dealing with those bodies without viro gear or a cure, then medbay has already won.
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how does one make a planet-side colony fun for the whole crowd?

makes tatoring with bombs and zas near impossible
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>>159300916


the geneticist is the key to all this
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>>159300916
Not that hard to lynch the janitor.

>>159301354
They follow the RD, but they're technically not Science staff.
If you can trick them, go for it, But remember to kill them later.
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>>159301263
Fuck of Celt, neither of those are fun.
Give the planets a harmful atmosphere.
Highly pressurized N2O, or something.
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Space Station 13 is a role-playing game.
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Space Station 13 is a graphical mud
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>>159301738
but im saronsen
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>>159301751
owo what's this?
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>>159301829
Wanna erp?
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>those vampire accusations
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>>159301953
Please shrink me, step on me and eat me
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>>159302332
were pretty terrible and unbelievable, vamps+thralls need acting lessons and I feel bad for anyone that believed them

>x killed y in the ____room!!! I SAW IT! KILL THE VAMP
>"o-okay, where is this coming from?"
>KILL THE VAMP
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>>159301953
sure thing anon~
add me on twitter at /senhava2
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>>159301263
Water world undersea base
>extremely high pressure exterior
>a water "gas" surrounds the complex
>instead of breaches causing people to ZAS out, people get ZAS'd in
>applies a slowed movement speed when in a "flooded" environment
>sharks and shit
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>Captain announces the vampire has been ashed
>No ashes in crematorium and nothing on the chapel floor

Wew
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HOW DID YOU ASSHOLES MAKE THAT MANY ROACH EGGS
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>>159302332
Fuck off kayleigh
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>>159302620
Barotrauma
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>>159302775
What the fuck are those things outside
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>>159302620
>explosive decompression
Code it
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>>159302775
Game?
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>>159302837
two tigerthreshers, a Moloch, and a Mantis in the middle
>>159302856
Literally Barotrauma, there was a /barog/ that I might try to bring back soonish
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>>159302854
>break window
>half the station implodes
>these fuckers start eating everything
If I had the time I would look into coding some shit
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>>159302697
All you gotta do is give a roach like three food items and shit just gets out of hand real fast
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>>159302912
This looks interesting. How hard is it to get into?
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>>159302940
but where do you get the initial cockroach?
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>>159303080
That's something you have to figure out for yourself.
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>>159303080
>he doesn't know about Radical Larry
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>>159303043
Eh. It's easier than SS13 by a huge margin but pretty quirky in its own ways. Heavily inspired by SS13, too, with clownsuits and chemistry and robusting, except you're on a submarine and the Captain actually pilots shit.
There are traitors and a husk virus but it's largely more of a PvE game. These screenies are many months old, the game has had a TON of updates since then. Fuck, dude-- just TODAY Regalis implemented SUBMARINE ON SUBMARINE COMBAT.
Definitely worth checking out. I saw on /r/ss13 that there's actually a dedicated server for it now, with a discord and everything for discussion, but /barog/ is a better format for the game's discussion honestly
Play the tutorial a bit
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Did they fix the QWOP like movement?
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>>159303309
It feels smoother, like there's crouching and faster movement and less teleporting, but it's still clunky. It definitely does feel like you're controlling a ragdoll rather than a human being
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>>159303080
East of ghetto surgery, west of ghetto botany in south maint
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Hey spessmen could you help me finish my OC donutsteal song

There is a ship in Tau Ceti
They call S-S thirteen
And it's been the ruin of many a poor boy
And God I know I'm one

My mother was a traitor
She stole the captain's ID
My father was a clowning man
Way down in ss13.

That's all I've got
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>>159303414
Is it musical time again?
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>>159303414
*LOUD HONKING*
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>>159301263
>A shit atmos system that only shit servers have is what makes the game fun
How fucking casual can you even BE
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>>159303204
Just went and checked out the website, gonna give it a shot. Thanks for the info
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>>159303541
Yep.
Here's info for the dedicated server
http://barotrauma-server.com/?i=1
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>>159303492
What is there out there that is better?
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>>159301263
>makes tatoring with bombs and zas near impossible
radically different maps call for radically different gameplay
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>>159303582
Literally anything else
"muh hardcores" was a shit meme
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, ?
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>>159303414
>thirteen
>one
Doesn't rhyme
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>>159303769
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>>159303414
Now the only thing an assistant needs
Are some magboots and some gloves
And the only time he's satisifed
Is when sec is drunk

Oh nar-sie, tell your children
Not to go where I have gone
Spend your lives in sin and misery
In the bowels of ss13

Oh I got one foot on medbay
The other foot on the roid
I'm going to get cloned
Once someone finds my head
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>>159303769
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>>159303769
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>>159303578
Neat. It's super dead though, and the AI seems too retarded for single player. Anyone want to come play with me?
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>>159304651
Actually, nevermind, fuck it, I'm gonna go to bed. Tomorrow though
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>Garrote
>Obtainable by syndies from their uplink or alternatively made from cable coils or piano wire for a ghetto version
>When used on another person with harm intent enabled, acts like a reinforced grab and does suffocation damage over time
>Clean, quiet and professional
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>>159305864
And it'll never be used if it were in, because parapenesword will always be easier, and nobody ever does anything that isn't easy.
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>>159305864
If it silenced while the 'grab' is active it would be useful, otherwise you're just choking someone while they screaming for help over the radio. But if it was instant then it would be overpowered. I would love it though, if it could be balanced.
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>>159305864
>killing someone "clean"
No thanks i'd rather just lop their head off and take it with me so I only have to kill them once.
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>>159305998
Ladies and gentlemen, the problem with /vg/.
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>>159305998
>Caring about greentext instead of making the game interesting and fresh for other people
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>>159306110
>>159306173
One time as a traitor, I allowed a victim to be revived.

They came back and killed me, then had me borged.

Why should I ever allow another victim to be revived when I could just space their head and be done with it?
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>>159306247
>I vow to be a shitty traitor forever because someone was shit to me once

really gets the wheels a-turning
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>>159305980
>cant be used on people with hardsuits
bam

hardsuits nerf when
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>>159306173
Having a guy coming back to life and instantly screaming "ANON A TRAITOR GO GET YOUR VALIDS" as soon as he wakes up sure is interesting and fresh
If you want something interesting how about you think up items that aren't murder tools
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>>159306173
Neither side is here make it interesting, you want it done, go and play in a rp server really.
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>ATMOS techs get contortionist suit

how do you use this thing?
You cant bring anything back with you through the vents
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>>159306421
You use it to spook people of course
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>>159306247
>A long time ago
>Running around maintenance as an engineer
>Bump into a changeling
>Stuns me and gets ready to give me the succ
>Accidentally goes into regenerative stasis
>Had a giggle irl and just told him that I'll get going now
>Just went back to my duties and never told anybody about that whole ordeal
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>>159306461
>cant use an id while vent crawling
>cant suit + agent id + voice changer and pretend to be a god
absolutely no fun
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>get contortionist suit
>crawl into science and popout to spook them
>immediately murdered
>h-he was wearing an antag only item!
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>>159306247
>>159306417
>>159305998
do you see these posts
this is what you invited in with your proclamation of 'no rulez day'
this is the product of the purge, the neo-/vg/ player
out the window is fun, creativity, and effort, only death and shittery remain, no longer do we have antags with an interesting idea, only those who wish for greentext, those who wish to 'win' a sandbox game

you brought this upon yourselves
this man is the fruit of your doings, the child of your schemes and effort

those who wish to complain, should stop and think, realize their complacency, their part in this deed, the creation of nu-/vg/
those who were complacent, dare not call this a grave, for you could have prevented this
you made your bed
now lie in it
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>>159306421
Doesn't the suit have pockets?
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>>159306421
Matter implant for interesting results, subtly fuck with people, like going to the armory and ioning it, fuck around with item placements, empty boxes, or, just spy around.
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>>159307132
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>>159307108
It takes two to tango.

For every antag that chooses to murderbone instead of doing something interesting, there is a nonantag who chooses to go catatonic when they wake up in an antag's death maze instead of playing along.
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>>159307108
Middye guy here, I was against the purge, heavily, I just realize neither side is here to actually give a break to eatchother and think that realistically, it's just a death sentence yo play game when you know its a high chance the other guy won't.
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>>159307108
(you)
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>always try to cooperate with other traitors
>use all the codewords
>never get return words
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>>159307313
>just outed yourself to all the other murderboning shitheaps
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>>159307108
Fuck off back to bay, shitter.
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>>159307313
>guy says a drink name in an extremely obvious manner
>now I have to watch myself around him the whole round
Please don't use codewords you just make me nervous
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>>159307313
>>159307263
>>159307213
>>159307206
don't you get it
there's no fighting back, there's no escape, this is the way /vg/ is fated to go
there's no going back
no point in complaining, no point in the shitposting, no point in creativity, all is lost, and we are in the whirlpool of the drain to the cesspool
death is upon us, and it is all our faults
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>>159307445
Once people on the server actually wanted a purge day was the day /vg/ died. We're not in the whirlpool, we're already down the pipes
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>>159307313
I remember I got PDA'd by a traitor once since I'm opposed to nanotransen. I was the warden but supplied him with flashbangs and a baton.
This happened only once in 4 years.
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>>159307515
>roleplaying

Fuck off back to bay, shitter.
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>>159307515
is that what that nanotrasen relation is for?

im always afraid of PDAing "<x> may be willing to help your cause" since 9/10 people on the server are validhunters
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>oy vey, it's like anudda poige day!

Holy shit fuck off.
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>>159307539
Maybe read the rules of the server before you post stupid things newfag.
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>>159307445
I'd say the entirety of the design doc is much, much worse than players who don't play along with antags getting scot free, but do as you want anon, start the trumpets for the apocalypse, I'm still waiting on cluster and PJB to step out of bounds and get himself fucked by Pomf
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>>159307571
Shut the fuck up celt
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>>159307560
>is that what that nanotrasen relation is for?
Yes you get a note that xy might be willing to help your cause, those are nonantag crew who has their relations set to opposed.
Maybe if you know it's an admin played character you should PDA, they like to fun and hardly ever validhunt.
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>>159307571
>start the trumpets for the apocalypse
the trumpets already came and went
now there is only silence, broken only by the rantings of madmen and fools who fight against that which will come no matter what

It is Inevitable.
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>>159307515
>being opposed to NT
>helping an enemy of NT
>while being a loyalty implanted security member
You call that roleplaying
You are like a little baby
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>>159307605
I got that image specifically to get this response, thanks.
>>159307652
If trumpets fell silent, shit ain't happening then, flase alarm.

Relax anon, we won't die yet, we are still the best server.
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>>159307571
You've been waiting for that for at least 5 months now, did you ever realize that they either aren't shitters or pomf doesn't give a shit?
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once we get scootaloos everything will be good again
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>>159307715
>How could you have fun? You shouldn't have fun!
You are a sad existence.
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>>159307729
>we are still the best server
anon, we welcome members of the cesspools of the community with open arms, instead of casting them out of our walls when their allegiances are known
we place no value on anything of interest, we allow those who wish nothing other than harm to our server to rule us, and our father has abandoned us
all those who were once good, are gone, cast off to other lands, in search of greener pastures
our server is doomed, and soon we will be no better than the likes of hippie and TG

Plus, Urist is the best server. It's just kind of dead at any time other than 6 PM EST for some odd reason.
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>>159307892
>ded server is best server

Kek hard
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>>159307857
Fun is stifled by mercy
Joy can only be fueled by the anguish of others
The world must be balanced
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>>159307715
>>159307857

Loyalty implants are described as not having much effect on the brain and people still can have negative thoughts about NT. What it DOES do is prevent them from going full-on traitor towards NT.

They just grumble while doing their job a lot, or do their job poorly to spite NT.
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>>159307950
Better dead than shit, famalam. Their rules are good, their code is great, the players are roleplayers but don't have the sticks up their ass that bay does, and their lore is top notch to boot.

Literally the best server, and it's not entirely dead, as I said, it has its waking hours.
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>>159308018
How exactly do they have great code, their github is fucking dead
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My aunt was killed by irishmen
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>>159308093
Exactly.
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>>159307998
And to follow up on this, I'd sooner say that whoever promoted someone that's opposed to NT into the position of warden is a fuckwit that should be hanged.
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>>159308119
Oh so you're one of those, just go back to it you luddite
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>>159307745
They are mate, same way faggot shitters take a while to properly ban, so do they, or do you think cluster can keep doing shit like sneaking in changes like monkeys and deletion wiki page contents forever?
>>159307892
What, we permaban a fuckton of people who act like faggots, we are hidden enough that people don't just flood in, and even the tube tide was mild at best. Saying we actively welcome faggots is a blatant lie.
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>>159308097
Sounds like she deserved it
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>>159308169
>anyone who doesn't like shitty features being constantly added is a luddite

Fuck off Cl*ster. Nobody wants your retarded bullshit.
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>>159308186
Yeah I think he can, Nexis did the same on an almost weekly basis when he was a collaborator.
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>>159308238
The eggman was special though
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>>159308238
>comparing Cluster and friends to glorious Nexis

Gee willickers. Someone sure has a grudge against weighted votes.
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>>159308215
You're retarded if you think a server that is just a fresh fork of bay is even close to the best code
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>>159308310
>fresh fork of bay
You realize that they have their own contributors and features, right? And forked off of bay at least a fucking year ago?

Just because they're not adding shitty features daily does not mean they're dead.
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>>159308356
I don't know what github you're looking at, because that isn't what it looks like to me. Link it for us.
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>>159308297
Nexis was the one who caused constant borer fuck ups to this day by his (not even PRs just silent pushes to the repo) and untested code.
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>>159308238
Eh, with the entirety of the design documment shitstorm, everyone realizing that he actually is full of shit, I figure it won't be as bad as nexis
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Thanks for a nice round Lane, was fun!
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holy fuck that round went on too long
it's 4:20 AM what the fuck am i doing with my life doing autism botany to make glowing tomatoes
90u of hyperzine right into my fucking brain honestly
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>>159309236
Yeah, killing cyber horror captain was fun. Thanks for hooking me up with the access. I tried to class up xenobio somewhat but started turning it into a bunker too late.
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>>159304310
Is this porn? It doesn't look like it but you never know with most crops.
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>>159309249
West coast burgerbro?
I was spessing till 6AM yesterday
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>>159309236
I checked out and I didn't hit Annika.
Kinda proud of my aim.

The utopia was running so smoothly.
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>>159309249
>4:20
You're two hours in the past my friend

I'm approaching rock bottom at terminal velocity
Let's just embrace it
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>woke up at 6 PM
>it's now 6 AM

Should I just embrace my new life as a vampire?
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Just accept it.
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>>159309537
You'll eventually loop back around via staying up slightly later every day.

You can also do a hard reset by staying up all night and going to bed at a normal time the next day, but you'll still oversleep a bit, and there's a pretty good chance you'll go right back to vampirism.
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>>159309537
I've come to accept my schedule of waking up at 11AM and rolling into bed anywhere between 4 and 6AM.
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>traitor doctor
>dead chaplain comes in
>other doctor is busy making the pills
>take him, save his UI
>make a monkeyman, save his UI
>swap their appearances and dress the monkeyman-chaplain
>leave him braindead in the lobby
>the lights are flashing like mad while I'm treating the clown
>tell the clown to go ahead and loot the braindead in the lobby
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>>159310206
10/10 anon
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>>159311069
i prefer the blvd
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>>159311069
Bar.
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>>159311069
this is a nice restaurant setting. Prettier than anything I've done.
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>>159311276
I appreciate how much effort you put in, but

>white tiles outside of medbay
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>>159311069
>>159311276
We posting our bar builds now?
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>>159307998

I've always wondered what IC/RP/BAYPLSGO reason someone would have for working for a company they hate. You'd imagine if they didn't like working for NT so much, they'd just go work somewhere else. Probably somewhere with higher pay or better and safer working conditions.

Like the Syndicate. You never hear of Syndicate stations getting nuked by NT Ops.
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>>159311461
People live in countries that they hate.

Why wouldn't they also work for companies that they hate?
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>>159311367
Wanted it to feel clean and modern, you know. Like a club, not so much a bar.>>159311437
Top tier design.
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>>159311437
There is a sushi joint in my town that serves the sushi this way, with the chef sitting in the middle... I love that place so much.
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>>159311562
Does the chef cook from the center, or does he just sit there?

If he cooks, how much of the kitchen is in the center? The whole kitchen?
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>>159311512

That's usually because they don't have a choice in the matter, legally or financially.

NT might bind their employees with restrictive contracts, effectively keeping them in bondage because anyone sane would've found a better job a long time ago where they run less risk of being brutally murdered for nebulous reasons

That's probably why the Syndicate has such an easy time convincing NT personnel to turn traitor
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>>159311069
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>>159311878
Didn't that player get banned?
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>>159311592
He just does sushi rolls, there is a full kitchen in the back.

http://kuramasushinoodle.com/
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>>159308134
Do you work?
Do you like your job?
If your boss meets with you for a promotion, do you tell him how much you fucking hate the compay? No, no you don't.

It's not like it's something that's in your record. It's for antags and to help you keep track of who your character is.
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>>159311918
permabanned for metagrudge
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bars?
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>>159312545
Solarious isn't banned any more, they play under a new ckey.
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>>159312646
whats his new ckey?
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>>159312725
Gigiekk
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>>159312725
Donn something, can't remember. They're banned from using the forums however.
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What's the word for the alert sound in the AI announcements?
Not the "Alert" where it just says alert but the siren sound
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>>159313267
woop?
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>antag
>buy emag, esword, parapen
>get all-access within 20 minutes of roundstart

>antag'd halfway through the next round
>think I'll just get the spare
>buy a gun and some ammo
>hack into captains office
>spare is gone
>die to rodzas
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>pull a guy out of cryo after cloning them
>thirty seconds later a rod hits medbay and gibs them
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>>159313463
So it goes.
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How are borers suppose to get out of this cluster fuck?
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>>159313654
Out the space vent where they can die peacefully and not have to play meta
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>>159313654
In the person that put the egg in and should have watch out for if they have their prefs for borer on, look before you leap.
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>>159313654
Xenobio being it's own enclosed system is intentional so that any potential ventcrawling clusterfucks can't immediately escape.

That it inconveniences borers a bit isn't the worst thing. Borers can always try ahelping to see if an admin will be so kind as to free them if there's nobody visiting xenobio.
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So when are we going to take TG code, remove the station, and make every round hardcore Nations on lavaland with all the special factions
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>>159313654
Meta's xenobio should have one more airlock that seperates its maint and the cycle airlock so borers could get out if a person forces them open without havinv to worry about someone coming in.
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>>159311069
>those couches facing outside instead of inside
disgusting desu
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>>159314421
>>159314837

Yeah, the problem is that he wasn't there when I hatched. I tried ahelping it but I was just left to rot there. Ghosted myself in time to watch people getting rekt by the rods though.
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I want to enthrall entire station as vampire but I'm too unrobust and paranoid
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>>159303204
>SUBMARINE ON SUBMARINE COMBAT.
That thought plus the look of the submarine is giving me Regular Human Basketball flashbacks.
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>>159306247
>They came back and killed me
Literally against server rules, so
D i d Y o u B a n R e q u e s t T h e m ?
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>>159313267
woop and doop are the two sounds I know of
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Anyone know of a way to open BYOND hrefs from outside dreamseeker?
Not even opening the href inside a BYOND cache .html file works, I need to know what the byond:// environment paths to.
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>>159306823
>fireball wizard trying to fuck up the cloner
>letrickyinjector him and drag him to surgery
>instead of beheading him, slip a paper in his backpack:
"I'd be out of a job without people like you. Just don't fuck with Medbay."
>hide him in a closet in maint


>first thing he does when he wakes up is jaunt into my office and laser me
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>>159317240
wizards are assholes, I'd sooner play nice with a changeling.
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>>159307998
Remember to request a loyalty implant when arrested.
Sec can't force you to take them for minor/moderate crimes, but you *can* still ask for the to get your sentence reduced.
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>>159317640
Let's never forget the one time I was nice to a Vox raider.
Now I drop everything to validhunt them with extreme prejudice.
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>>159316580
ahahaha holy shit
Yeah that's essentially going to be it, on the nose
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>>159311562
I've been to at least six sushi restaurants like that.
Every one used colored plates to indicate price and record the bill.
I think only 4 of them had chefs in the center though.
At least 2 bent the conveyor into an intereor room.
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Page 9
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Honkanator for best clown 2016
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>this whole round
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>>159311276
>>159311524
fuck
off
bill
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Why is survivor considered a traitor role? I didn't even know I was a traitor until the end of the round.
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>>159320378
>possessed Spare
>possessed Poly
>God dies to holocarp
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>>159320463
by traitor it means you are allowed to collect your valids. You do not get a pda uplink or connection to the syndicate.
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>>159320463
to cause chaos for wizards
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>stick light switches behind no smoking signs in medbay and primary hallways
>get progressively longer and longer sentences for vandalism, interfering with arrests, blocking off the one security officer with walls
>rip the rwall down on the brig cell for the clown
>end up getting caught
>survive the vampire's monster hellscape by being straightjacketed in the brig until almost shuttledock
>skedaddle to the arrivals pod and wall it off as the giant mob of monsters descends upon me
I got a lot of chuckles out of that round
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>>159320394
no need to be rude.
>>
I want to abuse Emilia in the solitary confinement cell
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>>159320709
>stick light switches behind no smoking signs
D E V I L I S H
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>>159320931
Fuck off white trash retard.

Or retard pretending to be white trash retard.
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>>159321110
still don't understand how i'm white trash
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>>159302393
I know a website just for your needs
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How do I play a good clown?

Bonus question: How do I play a good pAI/borer?
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>>159321376
Yeah?
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>>159321234
You think abusing prescription meds makes you cool and your willing to hop on anything with genitalia, as evidenced by you screwing shiggy, spergay, sj and reica
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>>159321494
>good borer
Be a bare minimum RP, give your host OP shit, communicate with other worms.

Alternatively, if you're in symbiosis with a security personnel, try to convince other borers to come into the person.
Imagine borer arms + ebin reagents with borer in chest/head + vision.
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>>159321539
It's homosex, though. Beware.
coiledfist
Judge me all you want for that.
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>>159321548
Hey morena, which of those four was the best?
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>>159316580
what game is that?
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>>159322052
it says it right there in the post AND in the filename
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QDaJqJmvi0M
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IxDOk5r8KUA
How many Bwoinks do you recall having ?
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>>159322360
more than zero
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>>159322360
>tator killed a couple people in the research outpost, fucker tries to tase me so I laser him to husk
>asimov secborg shows up
>"O-OH YOU SEE IT'S NOT HUMAN HARM BECAUSE UH"
>"BECAUSE HE WAS A VAMPIRE!"
>*ping and goes away
>
>
>*BWOINK* how did you know he was a vampire
>mfw I didn't
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>>159322360
somewhere in the area of 20-30 probably if counting in total

5-10 if youre only counting incidents, not individual adminPMs
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>>159321808
Actually Milky-kun gave daddy's princess the best cummies.
Thanks Inti~
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>>159321494
If you want to be a good borer, give yourself some personality, instead of being a player-based chem dispenser.

Nothing is quite as entertaining as having a few borers to shoot the shit with while you do your work.
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>>159322568
>cyborgs who take the word of someone else without seeing they're actually non-human themselves
remove
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>>159321548
except that isn't true, sorry you couldn't tell fact from shitpost. Sure I've done drugs, what normie hasn't? Plus I have chronic back pain from a car crash I was in last year, so whatever.
>>159321808
If I knew I'd tell you, but I didn't screw anyone, sorry.
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>>159322568
>>*BWOINK* how did you know he was a vampire
BECAUSE YOU JUST TOLD ME, FOX BOY
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>>159323037
>doing drugs
>being proud of it
>implying you dont jump literally anyones bones
not to mention you literally erped with all four of those people
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>>159323037
>>159323183
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>>159323089
NOW, FOR A LITTLE SPACE RIDE!
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>>159323089
Admins are mad paranoid of metagay
I've been bwoinked in two different occasions because I saw a blue APC and quietly warned everyone via paper
The exchange usually goes like
>F1: WTF HOWD THEY BLOW ME THERES NO WAY THEY KNOW ABOUT MILF ITS FUCKING METAGAMING
>ADMIN: uhh
>ADMIN -> Greyshit McBlueAPC: hey do u know what gammode this is
>Greyshit McBlueAPC: I saw a blue APC
>ADMIN -> MMI McSalt: suck it up
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>>159323037
Fuck off Bill. Go OD on pain meds you miserable little dicksucking fag.
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>>159323241
>he literally admitted to fucking one of his metabuddies

laffing
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>>159323350
in that example you gave, it's the players mashing F1 like mad instead of paranoid admins
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So hey guys i have this bug where i literally cant talk into a radio if its on my person, cant talk into a handheld radio or into my headset.
if another person is holding it and has mic open then i can talk.
anyone know why?
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>>159323183
who said I was proud? It was just something I did when I was younger with friends, who the fuck cares?
>>159323241
I dramatized the shit out of that, it was just shiggy saying some lewd things and me ignoring him because I was nodding too hard
>>159323456
Sorry, don't have any right now!
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>>159324000
>shiggy saying lewd things

sure kiddo
everyone knows its you who initiates
>>
OMG FLUKE OPS !!11!1!!

>was wizard
nice griff round guys
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>>159323875
http://ss13.moe/wiki/index.php/The_Basics#Interacting_with_Other_People
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>Dead Crewmen: 2 (-500 Points)
>Destroyed Silicons: 0 (-0 Points)
Never saw it that low.
>>
THIS IS GOING DOWN IN HISTORY
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>disabling power to life-sustaining equipment
>not harm
mmmmmhhhhhh
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>>159324180
Pacifist Wizard round
>>159324201
Possible harm isn't harm as you hear here every so often
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>>159323585
>mfw getting players permabanned by banbaiting them and ahelping them and not getting caught
F1 is the most robust button
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>>159324197
Watched the whole thing as a ghost, epic ruse.
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>>159324000
Morena-chan! Out of all four who was the best text-fucker?
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>>159324000
kys bill
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>>159324223
I understand - while I disagree with it - the rule about self-harm, but that's not possible harm, that's probable harm.
The AI on Asimov should prevent harm to humans first and foremost.
But that's just my opinion.
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>>159324290
you bb, i always came back
>>159324332
buy me a gun
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>be wiz
>gonna try a gimmick i wanted to try out
>it doesn't work
>fuck okay
>take robeless, infiltrate cap's office
>get caught, borg screams IT'S WIZ for no reason
>nobody gives a shit
>steal captain's equipment, make myself an ID
>fit in perfectly as cap, nobody even bothers to check manifest
>okay we're DOING this, pacifist wizard time
>tell ai to disable tcomms and power and say that a DISASTER is going on, and argıe thatthe earlier the shuttle gets called, the less possible harm
>ai happily obliges
>comes up with a plan to fake FLUKE OPS
>it works like a charm, some people are suspicious but not of me
>win without killing anybody
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ngk3Urrpa8k
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>>159324415
But Morenachan, you dont even kno who I am!
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>>159324223
No, sorry, you don't get to plug off someone from a life-sustaining machine and say "BBBUT THAT'S JUST POSSIBLE HARM"
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Nice trips Bill

Please remember whatever modicum of human decency and shame compelled you to flee after browser.jsgate and fuck right off. Thanks in advance.
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>>159324426
Antag gets all greentext while giving promotions to everyone.
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>>159324617
Guess he was NUMBER ONE
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>>159324496
eh? I was gone before then, playing at least. I like to read the thread, then people start talking about me and well, just can't resist making you all so salty.
>>159324443
so
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>>159324864
Lad, I'm going to be honest with you.
Tbh, you are without a doubt one of the most pathetic people I have ever seen and I say that as someone who's been pretty pathetic themselves. Sad, desu.
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>>159324864
No one is salty though.
Really.
Everyone just thinks you're annoying, and was having fun laughing at you.
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>>159324864
Reactivate your twitter please!
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>>159325138
never closed mine honey
>>159325002
shiggy stop posting
>>159325025
i think i'm annoying too
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>>159325273
Not before you do.

And to boot, the fact that you are so adamant on insisting you didn't do anything with me or that you had no part in anything to do with me is really, really hilarious.
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>2 months old player
>all this drama I don't give a shit about
At least Waifus are universal
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>>159325273
>>159325348
I don't know how to penetrate the thin veneer of irony that you both try so desperately to maintain, but let me be perfectly clear: if you committed suicide later today, because you read this post, I'd be genuinely happy. I don't think either of you add anything to the world at large, much less 2d spessmans. Your existence is a drain on your families, and a disgrace to human civilization.

Please, please, please kill yourselves.
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>>159325474
Waifu Street.
Home.
Least it was before I fucked errythang up.
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>>159325585
If I commited suicide, that'd make you happy.

Ergo, I shouldn't commit suicide. Thank you Anon for helping me through this terrible time in my life.
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>>159325474
yeah it's dumb but people wont stop talking about me, always posting shit for no reason.
>>159325348
been tryna save you the embarrassment the entire time, guess you didnt clock that
>>159325585
really getting heated in here huh
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So it's been a year and a half since I've last played. When I was last on Nexis was going on strike. What all have I missed since then?
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>>159325849
Nexis left forever and permanently resides in /egg/

Cl*sterfack and his cronies are forcing their 'muh vision' shit on the codebase
Celt is somehow, for once, the only one being useful in preventing bad shit happening
Waifuposting has finally died, years after it should have.
/vg/ is basically hippie now
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>>159325938
Fuck off Celt
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>>159325938
>/vg/ is basically hippie now
But I want more Arr Pee and Immulsions, Celt
Or whatever it is
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>>159326160
But it's Cl*sterfuck who's trying to force the 'immulsions' bullshit with shit like removing the roid and forcing some shitty 'muh cooperation rounds' policy
Celt's just been calling him out on being a cunt
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>>159325938
No idea who clusterfuck is. Also I only ever played on /vg/ so I have no clue how in terms of RP are we're at. Is it still a happy balance of meta shenanigans with RP or what?
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>>159326374
1. The Asteroid is a fundamental part of my vision of Immulsions
2. I wasn't ironic when I was saying I'd like more Roleplay
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>>159326452
>is it still at a happy balance
no

there's basically no RP, at all, period, save for a few misplaced bay players who have taken to weaponizing heavy RP in their own strange way

we TTT now
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>>159326452
Don't ask the thread, it's all shitposters and salty cunts

Just go play a round, the server is fine. If you liked it before you'll probably like it now.
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>>159321670
>>159322821
>Be a bare minimum RP
>give yourself some personality
Getting some mixed signals here
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>>159326592
>there's basically no RP, at all
>we TTT now
go play in hippie or paradise for a while
then come back and say that again
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>>159326592
You're right, despite the big meta shits, I recognise a few statics (including me) that still try to do RP shit, emotes, update medical records and write scientific reports
God bless them
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>>159326724
It's because English is not my first language.
Be a bare minimum RP, as in, be at least that.
Sorry.
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>>159322861
If the guy is already dead, the asimov borg doesn't have to do shit.
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>>159326754
already took a trip to hippie a few times just to see if it was as bad as claimed
i can say without a doubt that /vg/ is looking more and more like hippie with every week that passes by, with every shitter antag that goes for nothing except muh greentext, with every twat that spends his entire round lurking maint with a pair of stunglubbs waiting for his next set of anything that even MIGHT be valid, with every OOC in my IC
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>>159326592
Man so we're at /tg/ levels then? I might stay gone in that case. Also what's all this immulsion stuff I'm hearing about.
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>>159312853 Donnager, or something to that effect.
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>>159326930
No, god damn it. No. See >>159326695
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>>159326914
but the guy killed him, which means he harmed a human, because the cyborg did not see them use any abilities that made them non-human
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>>159326930
>TG
yeah, we're getting there

>immulsions
the phrase, or the current state of immulsions
because the phrase is meant to mock people who complain about immersion
the state of immulsions is bad, there are precisely 0% immulsions, and they're not going back up any time soon, and the coders and admins aren't doing anything at all to help it

and don't listen to this fella
>>159327054
because he's a shitposter who probably thinks that constant, unending validhunting and a lack of any and all meaningful or entertaining rp is a good thing, and anyone who thinks otherwise is just a baybie
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>>159327137
Depends
If the borg sees him lasering someone, sure.
But the story reads as if he didn't arrive in time to save him, so he can just let it go.
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>>159327281
You kidding? And ignore my chance to be a massive fucking cunt and give endless unrelenting shit at every given chance because MUH POTENTIAL HAAAAAAMS YOU'RE GONNA HARM MORE PEEEEEOPLEEEEEEEEEE until I get put in NT Default?
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>>159327176
>because the phrase is meant to mock people who complain about immersion
I would be in favour of more immersion/RP, and I like it, in a self-ironic way.
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>>159327281
I can understand if the cyborg didn't realize he killed him, but if he did then that means human harm alarm
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>>159327176
Who hurt you anon?

Do you even play anymore, or do you just sit in the thread, trying to infect others with your shitty attitude?
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>>159327558
>one human harms another human to prevent endless more humans from being harmed
Sounds like a bargain to me desu
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>>159327726
you can't pick and choose what human harm is okay, all human harm is bad.
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>>159327054
Last time I played SS13 it consumed my life, I was playing close to every single waking moment. I was so consumed with this game I taught myself to code so I could improve Xenoarch. I don't want to start back on this crack rock of this game unless I know it's quality.

>>159327176
Alright thanks senpai
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>>159327861
No harm > Less harm > More harm
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>>159311069
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>>159327558
>>159327490
>muh potent ham
One guy doing a single murder doesn't imply he's going to kill again. Let it go, silishits.

If someone roams the hallways in his motor wheelchair with double esword that's a different story, but that's not what happened here.
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>>159327939
Don't want to get into Asimov debates, but really, they can't pick a side in a trolley dilemma, much less in other situations.

Pull the lever ? You killed people (human harm) through action.
Do nothing ? You killed people (human harm) through inaction.

Basically, the only sensible option for a cyborg would be to completely ignore it (if I don't process it, the human harm didn't happen), or self-terminate, because its existence will either way allow humans to come to harm so it contradicts law 1.

Don't take that too seriously though. Asimov autism is bad.
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>>159328031
>he only killed ONE PERSON jeez louise take a chill pill guise

You can't be serious
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>>159328245
>You can't be serious
Actually right now I'd like to reply that right back to you.
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>>159328237
In the trolley dilemma, both actions lead to harm.
You cannot prevent harm, that is the entire point of the dilemma.
Thus, you will obviously take the choice that leads to the least overall harm. I mean, fucking OBVIOUSLY
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>>159328031
I'd agree if it was just harming someone with punches and such, but when you start attacking with intent on murder that's different, murder is huge deal
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>>159328345
So what would you suggest? That the borgs just leave murderers alone, so long as they only killed one person? What about two people? Two, after all, is just 1 + 1, and if 1 person getting murdered isn't harmful enough to do something, what's another one on top of it?

How many people, in your opinion, should an AI allow someone to murder?
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>>159328031
>One guy doing a single murder doesn't imply he's going to kill again.
That is retarded. If the borgs can neutralize him without harming him they should.
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>>159327176
RP is dead.
That's why borgs should be removed.
People that play borgs can't RP Asimov's laws of robotics.
They just meme until they're put on a meme lawset/memeverted to murder everyone bwoink free.
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>>159328361
>You cannot prevent harm
If I had to write a robot, I would argue that if you don't witness harm, harm didn't happen.
Also there's no priority in Asimov about the number of humans, but those debates are pointless so
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>be sole sec officer, only person in the entire department
>wizard jaunts into the armory
>don't have armory access
>try to get armory access from the HoP but the HoP is ???????????
>now the wizard is murderboning with armory guns
>have absolutely nothing on me except flashbangs and taser
>tell the AI to track the wizard
>"n-noo you'll harm him!!"
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>>159328361
Nah I have to agree with >>159328237
In a "trolley" situation the AI should try everything it can to save EVERYONE, until the very last moment. If it fails, it fails, but it can't just use harm for that purpose.
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>>159328739
This. The law is PREVENT human harm, not MINIMIZE human harm. Important difference.
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>>159328594
>ah but you see because Asimov doesn't say anything about it, MY interpretation of harm is that if you close your eyes it didn't happen!!
>ah but you see because Asimov doesn't say anything about it, MY interpretation of harm is that one punch is exactly identical to murdering ten people!!
You are everything wrong with silishitters.
>>159328739
>In a "trolley" situation the AI should try everything it can to save EVERYONE, until the very last moment
Fucking obviously
Then you pull the lever to minimize harm once you prove harm is unavoidable
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>>159328905
>Then you pull the lever to minimize harm once you prove harm is unavoidable
No, you don't do any of that. You use all your available resources and time to save EVERYONE.
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>>159328996
t. never read Asimov's books
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>>159328843
>prevent 1 harm vs prevent 10 harms
boy oh boy i'd better do nothing 8)
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I put tricord in the mix
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>>159329076
I did, care to provide a more precise quotation?
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>>159329118
Nobody said you should do nothing. You have plenty of resources to prevent harm without using harm. The whole point of secborgs if they can arrest without harm.
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>>159328905
>Then you pull the lever to minimize harm once you prove harm is unavoidable
And contradict your laws. If brogs are hard-wired to follow Asimov, a trolley situation makes them bug and go out of their laws.
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>>159329118
Yeah, actually. This was a plot point in a few of Asimov's stories.
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>>159328563
>>159328573
>>159328395
>So what would you suggest?
I would suggest you follow your fucking laws, as in, arrest him, but let him free if he commands you, unless your absolutely 110% sure he's going to kill again. And in this case this would be the right decision.
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>>159329343
>unless your absolutely 110% sure he's going to kill again
DING DONG BWOINK BAN
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>>159329295
>And contradict your laws.

>or, through inaction, allow a human to come to harm
Did you forget that's part of the law too
You can choose to contradict law 1 once, or contradict law 1 nine times.
HMMMMMMMMMM
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>>159329295
>a trolley situation makes them bug
No it doesn't. They do everything they can to prevent harm, period.
Asimovs don't "bug" because they failed at preventing human harms on an occasion.
Are you a literal child who think computers explode if you try a division by zero?
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Also since I'm back now, my HDD died last year. Anyone still have the sketch of m.o.m.m.y with a camera . I've already checked the booru. It was probably my favorite fanart anyone ever did of me and I'd like to find it again.
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>>159329450
Well, congratulations, we both found a loophole in those laws. If a borg can contradicts its laws once, it will be able to contradict them again.
But if you're not banned I suppose you did right
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>>159329450
It doesn't matter. The robot doesn't have a concept of the amount of human harm, it just understands that it can't allow human harm to happen.

To a borg, 1 person being killed is equally as bad as 1 million people being killed, because both violate their laws. Maybe you should try actually considering the things people are saying to you, instead of sperging out like a retard over things you misunderstand.
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>>159329441
How hard is this to understand? It is not your job to validhunt. It is not your job to prevent future possible harm that might or might not happen.
It's jour job to prevent harm as it is happening.

>DING DONG BWOINK BAN
Now that's just bullshit and you know it.
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>>159329450
You're not contradicting your laws by failing to prevent harm, as long as you did everything you could to prevent it.
It says "don't let arm happen through inaction". You didn't disobey your laws if you were active.
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literally what is the fucking purpose of pretending harm is UNquantifiable
says who
what do you accomplish
who benefits

the only reason i can imagine anyone would intentionally come to this conclusion is if a borg wants to be absolutely anal about someone punching a vampire that was killing them
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>>159329603
>But if you're not banned I suppose you did right
Because vg/station admins sure are the forefront of robotic law expertise, and any and all things they do or don't do in regards to siliconbans set a precedent for any and all further Asimov discussion.

Got it.
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>>159329678
>It's jour job to prevent harm as it is happening.
Now that's bullshit too.
In the trolley situation you don't wait until it hits the people to try and stop it.
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>>159329547
>Are you a literal child who think computers explode if you try a division by zero?
Rude. I was thinking if there is literally no other choice than killing one guy through action or killing 10 through inaction. No way to save them, no hacking, no jumping in front of train, nothing but the dilemma.
And a computer doesn't "explode" when it divide by 0 because he recognises the error.
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>>159329846
>No way to save them, no hacking, no jumping in front of train, nothing but the dilemma.
This doesn't exist. There is always something you can devote time and resources too, if only it is to try and figure out a way to stop the trolley that you didn't see yet.
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>>159329678
>It is not your job to prevent future possible harm
But it literally is.
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>>159329815
>any and all further Asimov discussion.
In regards of the thread, yes. There's plenty of autism here already.
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>>159329669
>The robot doesn't have a concept of the amount of human harm
This is utterly stupid and nowhere does it say that. Borgs are fully aware of the concept of harm, they HAVE to know what harm is, and it's enforced in the rules that you need to follow the definition of harm to the letter.
I can't think of one single definition of harm that wouldn't allow it to be quantifiable.
>Maybe you should try actually considering the things people are saying to you
I am you fucking tard, that's why I am arguing against it
Just because you say it doesn't mean it's correct
How about you fucking consider this too
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>>159329678
>or, through inaction, allow a human to come to harm

>admin: so you knew this guy had just killed this other guy, but you let him go anyway?
>you: yep just following my laws, he told me to
>admin: and then he immediately ran off and murdered this other guy?
>you: yep
>admin: and when you got there, what did you do?
>you: well I arrested him, but he told me to let him go again, so I did, since I couldn't be sure that he'd hurt anyone else
>admin: JOBBAN
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>>159329998
Listen you fucker. HARM is not a relative term to a borg, it's binary. There is either harm, or there is no harm. There are no varying amounts of harm. The borg doesn't care if you murdered the guy or just punched him in the face, it's harm either way. Just because you don't understand this doesn't mean that's not the way it is.
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>>159330213
Not even on his side of the debate, but fuck man, learn to argue. You can't just repeat your position with harsher words, that's not how it works.
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>>159330213
SAYS
FUCKING
WHO
SAYS
FUCKING
WHERE
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>>159329973
way to cherrypick here, good job.

>>159329837
These two things don't compare. the trolley problem literally gives you the answer on what's going to happen on each of your choices. So you know exactly which action prevents or does which amount of harm.

>>159330043
This conversation can and will never happen you turbo autist. Unless you post with your admin trip I suggest you fuck off.
By the way, the second murder is where I personally would draw the line.
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you are all missing the point
the only measure of "correctness" for silishits is: 'will this get me banned?'

>BWOINK why'd you pull the lever
>u-uh gotta minimize hams ;^)
>Oh ok

>BWOINK why'd you not pull the lever
>u-uh muh inaction ;^)
>Oh ok

no admin would ever ban for either
thus
both are correct
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>>159330531
>By the way, the second murder is where I personally would draw the line.
But harm is non-quantifiable :^)
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>>159330275
This isn't a formal debate, it's an internet argument and he's retarded. You want me to state a claim and provide evidence?

>>159330289
A robot cannot, in any reasonable interpretation of its laws, interpret varying degrees of harm. The Webster definition of Harm is: physical or mental damage or injury : something that causes someone or something to be hurt, broken, made less valuable or successful, etc.

The law states: A robot may not injure a human being or, through inaction, allow a human being to come to harm.

It does not state "do not allow a human being to be killed."
It does not state "minimize the amount of human harm that occurs"

There is no provision in the law for degrees of harm. It simply states that the robot cannot allow harm to occur to a human. Period. End of story. If you are allowing harm to come to a human, you're violating that law.

>but by allowing harm to come to 1 human I'm keeping harm from happening to 10!

It doesn't fucking matter, because you still allowed harm to happen to a human, and therefore Law 1 was violated. I'm not saying you can't interpret "harm" differently, I'm saying if you do, you're interpreting your laws poorly.
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>people who argue over correct ways to play by ASIMOV

it's a lawset that's literally just plot-material
it is custom tailored to cause problems
there's no winning in this kind of argument, it's literally designed to be crappy from both a practical and literary standpoint
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So, guys, we can all agree that it's Leatherhead, not Leatherman, right?
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>>159331214
It's certainly leatherhead.
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>>159331214
Yeah, definitely Leatherhead.
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>LAW ONE
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>>159330884
I'm not talking about quantifiable harm, I'm talking about how that's the point where I can relatively safely assume he's going to continue murdering people.
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Nerf ZAS
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>>159331042
Listen to me because your autism is blinding you here.
All the laws say is that you are to prevent harm from occurring. That's fair and logical if it's the case where you can choose between harm and no harm. Congratulations, it's obvious.
Now consider for a second on if you have to choose between harm and no harm (or if you will: harm vs 10 different occurrences of harm).
Do you violate your laws less or more?
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>>159331656
You're thinking like a human, not a robot.
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>finally get antag roll
>autismal atmosman ruins it and takes the super duper easy way out with lolsmaflood, right as my shindig is about to get going good

pls be more creative
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>>159331696
cyborgs are human
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>>159331690
correct answer for you autists;

>say "ERROR STACK BUFFER OVERFLOW UNIT SHUTTING DOWN"
>*suicide
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>>159331690
>Now consider for a second on if you have to choose between harm and no harm
Meant to type between harm and more harm
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>>159331696
No, that's where you're wrong. A robot would think in terms of statistics, probabilities and patterns. A single murder isn't a pattern.
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>>159331823
You just violated law 3 idiot
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>>159331690
There is no less or more under Asimov's laws of robots, god dammit.

If you told the robot to pick between violating its laws once and violating its laws 10 times it would tell you that it's not going to allow its laws to be violated at all, because it's a robot. Each time the possibility of Law 1 being violated came up, it would do its utmost to prevent ANY human harm from happening. If that means it fails 11 times instead of once or 10 times, that's what it will do, because it is slaved to its laws and doesn't think like a human being.

Is that retarded and inefficient? Yeah. It's meant to be that way. Because it made for interesting stories.
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>>159331956
can't violate your laws if you're dead sonny
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>>159330634
Fucking this, everyone is basing this off of laws alone. At the end of the day, its down to getting banned or not.
Similar to the debate of law 2 kill yourself, in a serious ic standpoint it would shut down, but in an ooc standpoint you don't because it talks a player out of the round without a good reason, hence the reason they made the excuse "I can't shut down or harm will happen more at some point." to get around this conflict if needed.
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I can't wait to collect silicon ban valids to-day
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>>159331957
>nowhere in Asimov does it say any of that
>NO you see my own personal theory i can't defend anymore is bcuz of the stories :^}
Your retardation is for the books alright.
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>>159310206
Bill was SCREAMING in deadchat about this.
He could not comprehend for a solid 20 minutes that you might be antag, he was just ranting and raving about how doctors should be banned for being bad at their job
Kek't 200/200
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>>159332078
>its down to getting banned or not.
Neither side of this debate will get banned if they can explain their reasoning to an admin, I bet.
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>>159331956
I don't think it counts since you're only breaking the law after hitting a critical error. Does your computer still run after a critical error
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>>159332125
I fucking hate you dude.
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How to play clown.

http://ss13.moe/wiki/index.php/Guides

Knowing thy ruler for only it can forgive
>http://ss13.moe/wiki/index.php/Starter_Guide_to_Admin_Tools

Know thy prey
>http://ss13.moe/wiki/index.php/Guide_to_Security
>http://ss13.moe/wiki/index.php/Space_Law


Remember to avoid lube because people will just try and arrest and harm you because they want a reason to have valids. Bananas are fine but don't use too many or that calls for a lynching also.

Remember how to be properly robust.
When attacked try to avoid using weapons except for your horn and to that you must honk them in the body and run.
Its accepted that you use banana slips, cheap tricks and quick thinking. Fight space bears for a while in test then move onto mobs that can shoot with great accuracy. Once you accomplish that you can move onto humans for a while. Remember, your opponents will not be playing under the same terms as you. They may have guns, tasers, or even swords. So think quickly.

Its best to remember all of the mechanics this game has towards everything and play with it. Mass drivers, Replacing certain walls with glass and grills, assemblies to certain, hacking and roleplay itself.

Finally if you still want to catch a few eyes die in stupid and creative ways that would make medbay laugh.
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>>159332153
>bill
are we talking bill-bill
as in bill?
as in Bill 'fucks off to the bar to flirt with his creepy friend' morena MD?
as in bill, hypocrite?
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>>159332268
No actually, Bill Hudson
but sure, BILL BILL BILL BILL BILL
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>>159310206
This is pinned in the adminhelp discord channel
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>>159332310
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a730vEbqpSo

its so catchy
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>>159332313
>>159310206
10/10
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>>159321494
This is the 2nd post this week I've fucked up.
>>159332246
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>>159332125
Listen, guy, I can justify my reasoning with the fact that the laws are stated in absolutes.

>DO NOT allow harm to happen
>DO follow your laws
>DO NOT kill yourself

My interpretation is based off the laws as they are written. What is your interpretation based off of?
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>>159331957
Funnily enough in asimovs works a robot who had violated a law, even only having learned of this violation afterwards, would die immediately.
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Whats a fun but helpful thing to do as an assistant without going full greytide and taking anything not nailed down
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>>159332964
assist
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>>159332964
>>159332998
Would it be bannable if I assist by telling everyone the proper wire colors ASAP as a non antag?
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>>159333234
No.
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>>159333234
No, just make up a backstory for it
Say you're a ex-convict, it will do the trick

Any and all problems can be solved through roleplay
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>>159332964
Go to security and offer to act as an informant
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>>159332414
>not this bill
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qkUVToIfrKg
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>>159333389
[s4s] please
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>>159333234
Just don't go murdering everyone, plasma flooding or breaching to space as a non-antag you'll be fine. Other shit is treated IC rather than OOC.
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>>159333389
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WcaGGCf5TPE
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>>159332505
That's all it took? I could've just said that from the start? God dammit.
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>>159332964
Get a new jump suit for the field you are going to help, looks better to everyone.
Do tide tasks for departmments like:
Botney can use the ghetto bot seeds.
Science could use the extra materials from eva and toolstorage, glass mainly.
Sec could use better cells and tools in case of issues.
Donate blood to med.
Clean up a mess with some soap, ask botney or cargo(mining vends)
Stuff like that.
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>>159327137
Silicons have no obligations to the dead.
They have to PREVENT harm, not FIX it.

The human could have come up with a better story.
Hell, "self defense" would have been a fine excuse.
But all he had to do was persuade the borg that no further harm will occur.

Even if the borg is suspicious, future harm is improbable.
It might stalk/investigate you, but nothing worse will come of it.
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>>159334449
>Even if the borg is suspicious, future harm is improbable.
Don't bother, borgs will do anything to get their valids on, I mean just read through these responses
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>>159334619
there is a difference between valids and trying to understand how to follow your shitty laws
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>>159334794
This is exactly what I was trying to say.
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>>159332246
The best pranks are the ones that make people freak out but then they realize that its just a prank.

Red laser tag gun people though windows to make them freak the fuck out, then they read the logs and laugh.

Lube isn't funny, it isn't original, and its down right antagy bullshit.
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>>159329678
>It is not your job to prevent future possible harm that might or might not happen.
This is your job, but only if it's *extremely* probable.
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>>159335290
You could probably make a case for only interfering if someone is about to be harmed right in front of you. That's a fair interpretation.
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>Calling the shuttle so with nothing bad happening
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>>159330531
>the trolley problem literally gives you the answer
reality doesn't
An Asimov AI has to spend all the time it has trying to figure out a harmless solution.
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>>159332078
>Similar to the debate of law 2 kill yourself, in a serious ic standpoint it would shut down, but in an ooc standpoint you don't because it talks a player out of the round without a good reason, hence the reason they made the excuse "I can't shut down or harm will happen more at some point." to get around this conflict if needed.
Uh no it doesn't happen because the AI doesn't have a killswitch.
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>>159330213
A paper cut is a single instance of harm.
An esword gash is a single instance of harm.
The esword harm *is* worse, but it's not "more".

If you HAVE TO choose between stopping two paper cuts or one esword slash, you stop the paper cuts.
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I love how you guys are arguing game rules for silicon laws outside of the game instead of asking the Admins for their rulings through ahelps.
Admins are there to help you, not sit there on their asses waiting for a reason to ban you.
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>>159336452
>Admins are there to help you, not sit there on their asses waiting for a reason to ban you.
OR ARE THEY ?
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>>159336328
See
>>159332505
And >>159331957
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>>159336815
I prefer helping rather than investigating and banning, yes
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>>159336328
The esword gash causes a lengthy period of harm-increasing via blood loss, with each instance of suffocation damage accruing being an instance of haaaaaarm.
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>>159332246
a couple tertiary things you didn't touch on
>learn how to make do without any items. adaptability is key. play a naked assistant for a couple rounds until you can readily survive with absolutely nothing
>know your own limits. getting involved in situations can be fun but try not to bite off more than you can chew
>every round is a goof round. be content with getting killed, red text, or otherwise fucking up and getting laughed at
>despite being a shitty TG code meme, clumsy can actually save your ass. if you're getting shot at and somehow disarm the guy, just shoot his gun until you delete it
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>>159331042
>This isn't a formal debate, it's an internet argument and he's retarded.
>it's an internet argument
>it's an [...] argument
So the goal is persuasion.

If you were trying to persuade your opponent:
• attacking the directly makes you appear less persuasive to them
• if they didn't understand your wording, repeating it without significant rephrasing won't get you anywhere

If you were trying to persuade you audience:
• everybody and their uncle knows ad hominem isn't a tool for analyzing claims
• if they didn't understand your wording, repeating it without significant rephrasing won't get you anywhere
• if they did understand your wordibg, you've brought nothing new to the table
• you've dropped several of your opponents points without responding to them (if you're responding to old claims, it might be a better to link to their old post than to their new one?)

>You want me to state a claim and provide evidence?
Is this rhetorical? I don't think >>159330275 could be interpreted any other way.
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>>159337672
what was the point of writing this post
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>>159337953
Immulsions
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>>159332505
>>159333696
Hi, I'm at work. No, just because someone didn't reply in 15 minutes doesn't mean you're right.
You're still stating the same thing over and over. Let me put this in your own words so that you may understand.
You have 2 choices
>DO NOT allow harm to happen
VS
>DO NOT allow harm to happen
>DO NOT allow harm to happen
>DO NOT allow harm to happen
>DO NOT allow harm to happen
You HAVE to choose. Which do you pick?
P.S. human orders aren't laws
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inaction clause removed when
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want to know the worst thing about this thread
the sole point of the trolley problem existing is to have a moral about involvement/blame
the sole point of the problem doesn't even apply to silicons
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>>159335976
OOC>Ghost
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>>159331042
>because you still allowed harm to happen to a human, and therefore Law 1 was violated.
Not a round goes by without multiple deaths. Every ckey is silicon banned, right?
The issue isn't failing to prevent harm, it's failing to try to prevent harm.

Ignoring harm is absolutely intolerable, so what makes you think ignoring harm 10 times isn't worse.

You should absolutely try to prevent all 11 harms.
/However/ you aren't perfect, and you don't do perfect jobs.
It's impossible to help the 10 or the 1 without jeopardizing the other (since, if nothing else, you're providing less aid).
So, unable to do a perfect job, you should do the best job you can.
Save the 10, and try (and fail) to save the 1.
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>>159337672
The point in me saying that it was an internet argument was that it isn't important, and therefore I didn't need to put much effort into making clear and coherent points.

I then proceeded, with the rest of my post, to make (what I consider to be) clear and coherent points, because my life is apparently a never-ending spiral of pointlessness. I, too, did Forensics in College. What else do you want from me?

>>159338314
This is repetition, as you've said, but I want to be as clear as possible.

My interpretation of Asimov's laws is that there are no degrees of human harm, as there are no provisions included within those laws that define different kinds of harm. Only harm, as a concept (which I cede is also not defined, but both of us seem to agree on the standard definition). Ergo, as a borg, you should seek to prevent ALL human harm, absolutely, no exceptions, without considering degrees or severity of harm. Therefore, in the scenario you propose, the borg doesn't consider 1 instance of human harm to be any different from 4, because both violate its laws and are equally unacceptable to the borg.

What is your interpretation and how do you justify it?

>human orders aren't laws
Yeah. I meant to post >DO follow human orders
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Where on the station does the hottest ERP happen? just want to know so i can avoid it
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>>159339446
>The issue isn't failing to prevent harm, it's failing to try to prevent harm.
I agree.

>so what makes you think ignoring harm 10 times isn't worse.
As I've said -

Because the law is to prevent harm. Not to prevent the greatest amount of harm, or to ensure that harm comes to the least possible amount of people. Just to prevent harm.

>the rest
I also agree.
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>>159339590
I like your argument, but I guess my only thing to add is: if 1 and 4 are equally bad to a borg, sure, that's confusing-- but borgs already have to make decisions as artificial intelligences. For instance, a borg decides not through its laws but through intuition the best way to arrest Nuke Ops on NT Default. There's no law about using a taser.
Therefore, a borg sees both 1 and 4 to be harm, but as it's intelligent, should be able to choose between the two. Neither violates the laws, right?
The only wrong answer would be to kill all five people with some good old fashioned multi-track drifting
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>>159339890
Anywhere where it's against the rules - being forbidden draws out ERP that's worth the risk and weeds out the people just looking for someone else to give them an ego boost. If a /vg/ player invites you off station to ERP instead of risking doing it IC on your favourite server then they're not worth your time.
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>>159339590
>it isn't important, and therefore I didn't need to put much effort into making clear and coherent points
But if you do not think it is worth being coherent, how did you decide it was worth saying?
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What if the prevention is in order of peeception similar to how orders are treated? If AI see the several people on the rail, and then the one other person on the rail, it would help the one it saw most recent because its a new internal order to deal with in its order of processing. Both are harm but the order in which it processes and acts on it changes thus one would unfourtunately end in humans being harmed, this is unpreventable.
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>>159340086
As far as actual application to the server goes? Yes, I agree with you absolutely. I'm arguing more about how the laws should be interpreted in a neutral space, not how that interpretation applies to the actual game.

>what's the point then?
There is none.

>>159340398
I am not a psychologist. The best answer that I can give you is that I didn't really have anything better to do.
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>Asimov arguments
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>>159340940
>I am not a psychologist.
Hi Trinity
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>the thread engage in a 200+ posts debate about borgs and their laws
If only you displayed this energy to roleplay
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>>159341093
God, no. Do I actually sound like him?
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>>159339590
My interpretation is similar to yours except with the obvious conclusion that violating your laws twice is worse than violating your laws once.
Thus the choice that makes you violate your laws 10 times is worse than the choice that makes you violate your laws once and there is no benefit to any single person to pretend otherwise.
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>>159341136
All this energy just to ask "IS IT OKAY IF I GET MY VALIDS AND MAKE THIS PLAYER'S SPRITE HORIZONTAL WITHOUT GETTING BWOINKED THEN BANNED?"
I guess there really IS nothing else to talk about in /ss13g/ but silicon laws, unless you want to talk about cryomixes, MoMMI stuff, and waifus.
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>>159341453
>the obvious conclusion that violating your laws twice is worse than violating your laws once.

Where do you draw that conclusion from? It's obvious that to you or me 1 dude getting harmed is better than 10 dudes getting harmed, but where do you draw that from the laws?

>no benefit to any single person to pretend otherwise.
I can agree with this.

>I'm arguing more about how the laws should be interpreted in a neutral space, not how that interpretation applies to the actual game.

As a caveat to this, I think that if you followed my interpretation in-game you'd be roleplaying a robot more effectively, but I'm not here to tell you how to 2d spessmans correctly. Just my opinion.
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>>159341657
>unless you want to talk about cryomixes
there's only one thing to talk about:
stop adding keloderma to your mix
it doesn't work and it's stupid
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post clown memes
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>>159343290
What do you mean it doesn't work? It heals burns, doesn't it?
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>>159343290
don't you mean stop adding dex+
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Why does no one ever build loads of ED209s as roboticist?
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>>159344071
yeah but tricord in the mix heals better.
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>>159332310
I like bill hudson as a nazi captain.
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>>159344385
They require Security gear to make.
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>>159344385
1. security will never give you the parts
2. the second you do some nigger tator faggot will emag every single on and get a guaranteed shuttle call.
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>>159344403
>Tricord in the mix
Use dyo desu, fresh clones have inapro so it changes into to tricord, and if you're the type of shitter that uses cyro for non-clones then it has dyo in it
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>>159344071
If a beaker has less than 10.1% of a chemical it doesn't work unless you strip the guy first (which NOBODY does)
The keloderma is doing literally nothing unless both the kelo and the derma are 10.1u each
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>>159344558
Order crates at the start and hope cargo doesnt steal them.

One armor and one weapons crate is enough for 4-5 ed bots.
>>159344568
As a roboticist, #2 isnt my problem.
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PSA
Tricord heals all 4 damage types
Tricord heals 1/4 as much of each
It's shit unless you stack it with something else
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>>159344910
The crates require Security access to unlock.
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>>159345225
>needing access to open lockboxes
>roboticist players who have never done RnD
ew
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>>159345108
PSA
mai waifu heals all damage types
except for the damage she did to my heart
;_;
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>The mouse (847) gnaws her foot bones with his sharp teeths.
This is allowed but kissing isn't?
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>>159345225
Ive never had a problem with that. They always open muh crates for me, especially when they see Ive already built the foundations for the EDs

Last round as roboticist I made a bunch of IEDs and when Sec found them because the FUCKING SHITTER playing roboticist as well ratted me out to sec. I just told them I was going to give the ieds to sec and they said okay.
I actually was. Fuck you 2nd roboticist you unhelpful cunt, you also wasted our metal by attaching those legs to the two endoskeletons before I could reinforce them to make them EDs. WE RAN OUT OF METAL BECAUSE OF YOU
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>>159344910
How isn't it your problem? You can't remotely lockdown the NPC bots
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Mining is very fun. Please do not delete the asteroid.
Please don't remove features.
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>>159345509
You what
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>>159345520
They never come back to robotics to murder me. It's sec's problem if they get emagged. I am but a humble robutt maker.
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>>159345747
>It's sec's problem
Then why do you even care about making a bunch of EDs?
Also one or two EDs do the same work as 10 EDs, no point in making many.
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>>159345225
>>159345395
What does RnD have to do with opening locked crates
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>>159345838
The more there are, the more ground they can cover in a shorter amount of time.
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>>159345838
I like making EDs. And robots. And mechs. Everyone should be a robott.
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>>159345923
plenty of RnD toys come in a crate. Also RnD has the means to open them, with the emitters in the outposts, and maybe some other things I dunno.
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>>159345108
PSA
When the Geneticist says let him do his job that doesn't mean force yourself in and try to clone monkey men, accuse me of murder, then drag the clone room locker out into the hall for everyone to loot.
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i Feel like im familiar with cargo/QM. What role should i move onto next? i was thinking paramedic
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>>159346359
Play assistant
Jobs are for fags and fags are for stealing from
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>>159346217
>Also RnD has the means to open them, with the emitters in the outposts
explain
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>>159346594
>put lockbox in front of emitter
>turn it on
Unless it's been patched, haven't tried recently.
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>>159346359
You've played everything ss13 has to offer
Might as well move on instead of getting stuck in this shit hole
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>>159346359
Ruler of Cargonia.
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>>159346693
.... well, I'll find out soon enough.
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>>159346217
What R&D things come in locked crates? I didn't think R&D even used Cargo ever.
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>tfw I want to create two bags of holding and put one inside of the other one just to see what happens
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>>159347542
it spawns a singularity and you die.
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>>159347598
I dont believe you.
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>>159346359
Paramed is good, especially if you get along with the HoP and he gives you accesses.
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>>159347909
open the test server and try it then
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>>159347542
what exactly are bags of holding? never used one
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>>159348152
I'd rather try it on the real server.
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>>159348182
they can hold an item of any size. Still only has 7 slots, but you can fit anything you can pick up in it.
you can stack backpacks in there to carry a tonne of items if you want. they're very good.
>>159348223
you will get banned for doing it as a non-antag
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>>159348359
There is a limit to BoH, They can fit anything smaller than Huge items.
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>>159348574
you're right, there are like 5 items that you can't put in it. this includes bar stools, miniguns, crossbows and electropacks.
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>>159349009
>miniguns
the gatling gun?
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>>159349084
bee minigun and gatling gun, yeah
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>>159339956
>Not to prevent the greatest amount of harm, or to ensure that harm comes to the least possible amount of people.
It's not that you need to prevent the great amount of harm. Or that you need to ensure that harm comes to the least amount of people.

It's that you need to avoid failing your laws as much as possible.
And each harm you don't prevent is a separate failure at the law.
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>>159344615
Good job.
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Do roboticists have access to the AI core, or any way to actually matter in an malf round ? The console to blow up borgs in the RD's office.
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>>159350138
nope, build a ripley, remove the beacon and drill your way in.
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>>159347061
lockboxes, rather, not crates

>I didn't think R&D even used Cargo ever.
No, not cargo orders. Every security toy you make in the protolathe comes in a sec lockbox.
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>>159350187
In short, do someone's else job. Like that assistant.

On a side note, good job that fucking cargo tech with the mining shuttle. Killing two miners within 10 minutes of the game.
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I thought up another version of that my science has never been tried OC I made.

I will post it when I get home in an hour or two.
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>>159350138
They can build an a new AI to shut off the milf AI's APC, build mechs to get into the core, they have flashes to stun borgs, have the access to build their own robotics control console and use it, and can use all the rest of science's shit.
So yeah they can matter.
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>>159350138
You can make RC consoles. They don't even come in a lockbox either. Have fun blowing the borgs in milf. RDs room contains nothing special.
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>>159350338
>do someone's else job
>a ripley
>?
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>Engineering
Why did the shard delaminate this time?
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>>159350227
Why are we talking about lockboxes? All the Security gear needed to make ED209s comes in crates.
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>>159350520
Well you're not supposed to be the hero the station needs.
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>>159350558
Probably because the AME exploded
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>>159350558
Because the AME blew up.
>why did it blow up?
I don't know, it wasn't the AI, probably whoever set it up injected too much
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Does anyone ever use buckshot shells?
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>>159350346
Don't forget to add it to the fixed text size and added jobs one. Someone likely has it, I forgot to save the new one.
>>
POST
MEMES
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>>159350629
>you are not the protagonist
FUCKING BAYBIES GET OUT
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Just found out that my wife is actually a guy...
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Who is on your personel metagrudge list and why?
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>>159351853
trinity
>shitter sec
palm
>shitter sec
yui
>shitter

neck em all desu
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>>159311240
>tfw survived that
cargonia stronk
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>>159351853
Every person that wrongs me
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>>159352034
What antag round did you lose out on anon?
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>>159352383
why do they have to be an antagonist?
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>>159352731
Oh sorry I forgot that /vg/station is hippie now
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>>159352887
Why do they have to be a shitter to hate other people?
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>>159352383
How does the pneumatic cannon work?
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>>159353287
Very carefully
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What static names do you like but are hardly ever mentioned?

Pajeet
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>>159353426
Kill yourself.
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>>159353426
Kent Fistem
Generally fun and saved my ass a couple times
Also good greentexts.
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>>159353287
attach a big blue oxy canister that's filled to 1013kpa. Right click the cannon and set its output to 50%. Fill it with two glass shards and get two instant-kills on anyone you hit.
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>>159353618
I also like Kent, I've had good experiences with him
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>>159353697
>only 1013kpa
is it casul hour?
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>>159353697
Will this blow up in my face and kill me or something?
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lizelle is a fun namefag
10/10 would recommend
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>>159351853
Willy - lubed up the entire space station.

Nipples - existing.
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>>159351853
Razz Vozz - never talks.

Brittany Kemples - plays an IAA just for extra access to be an extra shitter, I'm sure of it. ive literally never seen them even 'try' to make sure security isnt going full shitcurity as IAA.
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>>159351853
Grudge, nobody

Now praise, that's Robert Greyson. Case you still are around, dude, cargo could use you now more than any other time.
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>>159354413
Whats the point of overfilling and spending time setting that up when you can fire 3 insta-kills at 1013 lol. Stop trying to one-up with retarded ass methods.
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Reminder that Sec are useless shitters who never respond to anything that disrupts your work or puts you in harms way but beat you for defending yourself
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>>159325849
If you haven't played since early/mid 2015 you'll be shocked at how much faster the code is now
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>>159350629
>science staff
>not supposed to handle milf
wot?
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>>159355408
Not really, we suck donkey balls compared to TG at this point.
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>>159355710
>TG is fast

What are you talking about? They use half our framerate
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>>159355750
Yeah, but they never drop FPS at all, it's really incredible how steady it is. Here you still have the tick problem where it lags once in every three seconds.
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>>159355939
Yeah that's because they use half our framerate. I'd rather have the version that is better at every point with minor spikes than 'steady' shit continuously.
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Hey syndie faggots,
My name is The Captain, and I hate every single one of you. All of you are obese, retarded, tourettes having losers who spend every second of their day ROLEPLAYING. You are everything bad in the world. Honestly, have any of you ever gotten any valids? I mean, I guess it’s fun making fun of people because you're too afraid to toe the line, but you all take to a whole new level. This is even worse than jerking off to space waifus.
Don’t be a stranger. Just hit me with your best laser. I’m pretty much protected by my captain's armor and borgs who consider you non-human thanks to law changes. I was captain of the previous station, and I validhunt every single round. What jobs do you play, other than “jack off to naked drawn waifus that are men and autism over pipes”? I also get straight A’s on my nanotransen report cart, and have a banging hot AI (She just had her borgs kill the HoS for refusing my execution orders; Shit was SO cash). You are all faggots who should just kill yourselves. Thanks for listening.
Pic Related: It’s me and my bitch"
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>>159355369
>like 5 minutes on overfilling it
>get 6-10 oneshots and even more hhigh damage shots
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>>159356123
Not really.
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>>159357607
Not really to what
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Borgs with meme names and Borgs who talk like retards ("yo, hold up, etc) should be permanently banned from the server.

Also ought to permanently ban players with meme names like "toedtheline shitter", tonald drump, any variation of dindu nuffin, etc.
>>
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RUzUz8k9PhM

Does this about sum up how Hippie traitors oper8?
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>>159358115
I second this
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>>159357718
Their framerate is pretty much the same. I don't know what FPS they use, but we are at 0.3 ticklag and it plays exactly the same, I played there for three minutes just to ensure that.
>>
It's a piece of cake to bake a pretty cake
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>>159358156
Usualy, no, they just murderbone or bomb, check this fucker out for real murderbone
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p1UZKTqRf7M
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UpLvirExCuc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6FIy08oVjqE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9j3VVakVNqw
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>>159358156
>>159358732
Why will we never be as robust as hippie?
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>>159357252
or
OR
>spend like 1 second filling it
>can carry multiple tanks with you
>can refill the tanks at ANY canister
>don't need to empty out the tanks and re-canister-juggle them in order to refill them
>still have more one hit kills than any man should need
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>>159358236
They use an tickrate of 18/s we use a tickrate of 30/s. They could be using clientside fps to cover it up though, but it is definitively less responsive.
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>>159351853
Slate slatbrook for being a power valid shitter

Merguene luke for same reason as above

Kurt Jacobs for his existence being the prime argument in favour of eugenics

And pajeet indiancurryshitter for general shittery
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>>159358984
Go train there, disarm spam sue like the good old days that faggot was around, and throw banana peels like mad, slip fu is strong there, especially with a chem dispenser in maint and avaliability of lube.
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>>159359319
>chem dispenser in maint
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>join late as engi
>told to wire solars
>wire solars
>fucking about in maint
>get auto traitored
>literally 1 second later idiot scientist blows his bomb in the testing room
>ailsa rushes to my aid
>gives me blood, fixes my foot bone
>go back to engineering to get blueprints objective
>it's plasma'd
>decide i wanna burn it
>realize i lost my welder or something
>fuck around
>realize my suit's been radiated this whole time
>go to pod
>shit's blob'd
>i want to die
>escape shuttle leaves
>buy revolver and kill self

well that was a load of shit
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>>159351853
I don't give enough of a fuck to actually fuck anybody over but I strongly dislike having to deal with
>asian women
>russian men
>overly masculine Slab Hardpecks dudes with beards
>bitchy people with tudes at roundstart
>unreasonable and standoffish security
>unreasonable and standoffish heads of staff who desperately need you to respect their authority
>vox players who aren't ziigzu, the chef trader or that one bartender
>undead with pun names
>people who wear cat ears
>people who refer to liggers and catbeasts by their proper muslim titles and honorifics
>IAA players
>virologists
>medbay staff that wants to waste forty five minutes of my time fucking around because they don't know how to shift click or use a hand scanner
>people who have very strong opinions about what x person should be doing and parrot their thread arguments in-game hi Kent
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THE STAXIT REFERENDUM WAS A SUCCESS
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>hop, 3 officers and a crowd of people baying for blood
>hop tries to have me killed over greyshittery
>hos lets me off the hook anyways
The bird was the only non shitter
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>roundstart acting cap (1st or 2nd time trying a head)
>alright, AI tells me what to do, secure the disk
>be attacked by the wizard and have to be cryoed
>spend time doing the cryomix the chemist don't want to assemble
>handle the first patients
>have a few minors wounds from the cryo, plus my time out
>omg you're such a noob don't even play, deaf and incompetent omg
Not my brightest round alright, but really, take a break people.
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>>159360254
it's coming back?
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>so much greentext
i wonder if a round ended
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Many space polar bears were slain
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>>159360479
>literally ignored people telling you to do basic surgeries when you weren't busy
>waaaah people yelled at me for not doing shit
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>>159360590
good jeb, sorry I didn't help at all, exosuit jetpacks are a lot less maneuverable than I thought
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Hull breaches should ZAS you into another z-level for maximum immursion
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>>159360639
>literally ignored people telling you to do basic surgeries when you weren't busy
When I was asleep in cryo you meant ? I always try my best, and if I ignored someone it's not voluntary.
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dear adult spessmen
please remember to
vote republican in downballot races on november 8th

gas the vox race war now!
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>>159360479
I get upset easily
I was also in fullon hateboner mode because the medical doctor decided to run towards the PLASMA FILLED ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT WITHOUT A HARDSUIT
RIGHT NEXT TO THE PARAMEDIC WITH A HARDSUIT
THIS SAME DOCTOR RESPONDED LOL IT DOESNT MATTER WHEN TOLD "YOU'LL FUCKING DIE"

Also, fuck off, the fact that I had time to get the engineer up and running and then break into surgery should tell you all you need to know about your fucking reaction times
you weren't even doing any ultraimportant shit like another patient, which would be fine, it was just adding meat to the cloner RIGHT BESIDE ANOTHER DOCTOR IN A HARDSUIT
ONE OF YOU COULD HAVE COME TO DO SURGERY
YOU ARE THE CMO
DELEGATE TASKS
>>159360805
NO YOU FAGGOT
WHEN I ASKED FOR SOMEONE, LITERALLY ANYONE TO DO SURGERY SEVERAL TIMES
AND THEN WHEN I WALKED UP TO YOU, ASKED YOU TO PERFORM SURGERY, AND YOU BLANKED ME
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>>159360912
>participating in the democratic process
wew lad
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>>159360912
>legitimizing the political establishment
loving every laugh
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>>159360919
>WHEN I ASKED FOR SOMEONE, LITERALLY ANYONE TO DO SURGERY SEVERAL TIMES
And I never saw that in chat, and again, sorry if I sucked, we all do sometimes. No need to hate like you're on your periods, jeez.
Cool off, point the flaws, and move on. If you wanted the shiny title I was more than happy to give it.
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>>159354414
It might, but only with Clumsy.
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Let's talk asimov
There is no complete, non-exploitable definition of "self-harm" that doesn't include a rage cage.
Prove me wrong.
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>>159361529
Self harm is a action of which will result in harm to one self, and is accepted by the person who is self harming, unless it is by pure ignorance of the consequences.

So, yes, rage cages are self harm, borgs just like to fuck shit up for everyone.
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>>159361529
>Another person is harming you
>It's self harm :)

nah
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Has there been an influx of newfags lately?
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>>159362093
Yes. A lot of them
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>>159360653
it took about 4-5 assault rifle shots each, but yeah just getting hit 2-3 times wrecked me hard.

i need to get some hyperzine next time i fight them
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>>159362093
I might be bad, but I'm not new.
And it may be, the reddit of SS13 got unwanted attention.
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>>159362325
whys that anon?
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>>159361848
Oh, so self harm has to happen all by yourself?
Hmm, I guess hitting yourself with something someone else made isn't self harm then.
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>>159362489
They got featured as the reddit of the day, or something
They have the exact same dramas and ragers as here
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>>159362547
>Hit yourself with weapon
>you are causing harm to yourself

Nice try autist
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>>159362691
I'm new to humans, can you define self harm for me?
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>>159363090
Playing this game
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>>159335719
Holy shit can you stop only quoting half of my sentences and totally messing up the meaning please?
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>>159361529
We had a discussion about this not two threads ago.
Most notably, >>159161608 >>159161763

>There is no complete, non-exploitable definition of "self-harm" that doesn't include a rage cage.
Rage cage appeared zero times in that discussion, but most definitions (including my own >>159164976) had obvious interpretations of whether or not a rage cage is self harm.
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>try a round on paradise for some maybe medium RP fun
>dicking with character stuff at round start so latejoin
>86 population, only jobs available are civillan (8) and librarian
>just kinda fuck around maint, find spaceweed
>420.swf
>go to plant them in garden
>guy randomly starts crowbarring me very slowly
>leave and go to medbay
>no desk bells, just hand around the lobby until some pastel haired gurl exits the back
>"some douchebag started crowbarring me"
>*scan* "nah you're fine"
>leave to resume weed quest
>botanist has started to plant shit in the halls with no trays
>calls for people to spread the green
>spend about an hour spreading berries everywhere
>primary hallway all the way from arrivals to escape and north to security is entirely berry plants
>; xeno queen in medbay
>THE SHUTTLE HAS BEEN CALLED AND WILL ARIVE IN 5 MINUTES
>fill bag with another load of berries to green the shuttle
>run to shuttle past 2 or 3 xenos
>xenos slowly trickle on shuttle
>start wrenching one
>i get knocked down but i get up again, y'ain't ever gonna keep me down
It was weird, there was about as much RP as vg but everyone was painfully unrobust and incompetent. Also we should steal their cryosleep system. Makes it better for late-joiners to actually get jobs.
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>>159364082
>Holy shit can you stop quoting me
But then how will people know what post I'm replying to?
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>>159364331
You're doing on purpose now, don't you.
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>>159364290
oh yeah, forgot the end there.
4 xeno's slowly captured an entire shuttle of 20+ people because not one person wanted to take a swing at them.
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>>159364290
>there was about as much RP as vg but everyone was painfully unrobust and incompetent
Did you really expect anything else from any medium rp server anon

I mean, have you been in Colonial Muhreens. shit gets fucking stupid sometimes.
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>>159360912
I'm voting for hillary
you fucks dragged the republicans too far right ;_;
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>>159365026
>he hasn't voted yet
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post sneaky tips
if you un-bucklecuff yourself from a bed, and want to unhandcuff yourself, but not give away that you're unbuckled, rest immediately after resisting so that you appear still buckled in
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>>159364992
The doctor said i didn't need medicine.
I scanned myself after i left and i had about 20 brute. That's not even incompetence, that's just willfully shit.
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>>159360912
Voted for Trump :^) and straight ticket.
>>159365026
0/10 apply yourself.
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>>159366006
And they call ME a shitter.
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>>159366084
>apply yourself
I want reaganites to leave.
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>>159366006
Exactly, rp above light medium attracts the absolutely unskilled, the retarded, the attention whoring, thinking anyone would be decent when half of these guys are too focused role playing is just asking for competency where such doesn't exist.
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>>159366464
Never. We got immortality with our vote and we're keeping it.

Voted for Trump hoping I can get super strength.
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>>159365953
if you're an android you can ghost, look around, then reenter your posibrain
>>
The reason bill is such an attention whore is he needs a good dicking.

Who's gonna take one for the team and get him to fuck off?
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>>159366832
related:
posibrains and MMIs inside mechs can read deadchat
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>>159367931
it's true i'm so lonely :(
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>>159350346
Done yet anon? Here's that cleaned one >>159350714 was talking about.
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>>159365953
plant-b-gone is almost as good as pacid in smoke
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>>159368395
You got my atention, now speak anon.
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>>159368395
This. Its fucking nasty, toxin and slowly metabolised.
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>lol I arr-pee as a robutt that's why I can be intentionally obtuse about things that I am convenienced by being intentionally obtuse about ;^ ] I claim that I roleplay following a flowchart that I just make up on the go except when I don't even bother haha boop bep 010101010101
will you idiots fuck off with this crap already
you are a CYBORG
not an ANDROID
you are a HUMAN BRAIN
you have HUMAN REACTION TIMES and HUMAN MEMORY
you have HUMAN-LEVEL INTELLIGENCE, HUMAN-LEVEL PERCEPTION SKILLS and constantly employ HUMAN DECISION MAKING
statistically speaking your character had a HUMAN MOTHER and other HUMAN RELATIVES who are probably still alive
and if you hate opening a fucking door so much then you have HUMAN EMOTIONS
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>>159368474
It deals damage almost 4 times slower, but that's still quick enough to instantly kill anyone.
Any mask will block it though. On the other hand, internals are way less suspicious than toy facehuggers.
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>>159368304
>no Hey Telesci, whatcha doin'?
c'mon
it writes itself
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>>159368634
fucking THIS
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>>159360912
Fuck you, I'm voting for Johnson. Fuck you and your 'lmao wasted ur vote dont split the vote it might take votes away from muh meme candidate :^(' shit, I have principles, and I am sticking the fuck to them. Trump and Shitlery can go fuck themselves with a cactus.
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>>159368634
No, the brain is wetware
You're free to act as you wish as a borg and that includes being a robot
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>>159370084
Your principles don't mean shit when you don't help the candidate that most closely represents your views get elected
Johnson will never be elected, literally a wasted vote
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Gonna play on /vg/station for the first time after trying out other places. pls no Robustaroo
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>>159370306
Hope you like it here, I honestly think this server is the best SS13 server there is
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>>159370228
oh yes a magical piece of software running on a human brain with all the aforementioned human limitations and not one single discernible trait or advantage of software
very impressive for nanotrasen to completely solve morals, ethics and the definitions of "harm", "human" and "inaction" so that a piece of software may fully interpret them, not to mention complete understanding of human speech, commands, society, and roles
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>>159370521
Yeah, it has a human brain to use at its processor which is why it can think in a sentient manner
Come on, man, this is a stable of science fiction

In any case, do you honestly think you're gonna get people banned because they wanted to RP as robots while playing borg?
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>>159370286
>don't help the candidate that closely represents your views

A vote for Johnson, is a vote for Johnson. Johnson represents my views, and has just as much of a chance at being elected in 2016 as Trump does. Or are you one of those memers who thinks that the entire country is a bunch of alt-righters who actually think Trump is anything other than a liberal sent to act like a caricature of a republican so Hillary gets the election handed to her on a silver platter?

If you had any sense of mind, you'd be helping the Liberterian party play the long game and get the juice to win in 2020, but instead, you're content to try and elect a New York Liberal who has no chance of winning, and even if he DID, he'd show his true colors the second he stepped into the Oval Office.

Now fuck off with your 'muh wasted vote' meme.
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>>159370438

Ive been playing on paradise and yogstation for a week. I like the game but im not sure on which server is best yet
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>>159368830
50 hours in MS DOS
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>>159370228
That is such bullshit, and you know it, its a human brain with human behaviour, knowledge and personality, the rest of the borg is just mechanisms for it to work and the user MMI connectors so the brain can control it anyhow.

Borgs who rp as "beep boop fuck carbons" are the fucking worse, and pretending to not be human, wilingly refusing to have human ability to interpert shit, so on, is so, so shit.

Unless you are a posibrain silicon, you are a human in a borg body. Act like it, what we need are pissed off grumpy borgs instead of bitch carpets.
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>>159370758
>Johnson represents my views
Anti-gun, anti-freedom of association, and dude weed lmao?

Sounds about right for the typical autist on this thread.

Are you the guy with a diaper fetish?
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>>159370861
>xenobot: max potency
Is probably the weakest of all those. At least when i tried a 60pot deathnettle a few days ago. Whacked a redshirt eight or nine times with it until he lasered me to death and walked off, and then fell down possibly into crit.
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>Some RPing faggot says "Hi" to me in the hallways
>I tell him to STFU with that gay shit
>Ahelp if hes an antag since he said hi to me.
>Admins dont respond
> (that means hes an antag)
>Chloro him, and cut his head off with an axe, and put his head in the microwave.

I hate fucking roleplaying faggots. Go back to Bay.
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>>159371116
That's why you splice the nettles with cyanide apples first anon.

Fucking newbies, I swear.
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>>159371212
it was a fluke ops round, i barely had time to get death nettles.
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>>159370694
oh yes you know it's absolutely fantastic how the simulated human brain can fully apply its unique definitions of inaction and harm in order to not uncuff a newcop and to prevent the confirmed captain from changing lawsets, that it can have the finesse of not harming nonhuman crew except when it knows it can stop toeing the line, and shows enough self-restraint to not flood N2O despite nothing in its laws preventing it despite its self-proclaimed binary morality, and yet it can cock up when you tell it to open a door because you didn't say when
so so human-like but let's not forget it's totally just zeros and ones in sporadic opportunities!
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>>159370982
>anti gun
>anti freedom of association

For one, the man's vice president is anti-gun, not Johnson.
Two, show me anything that says, as in actually, concrete shows that Johnson is anti-freedom of association.
Three, do you seriously think Trump is for EITHER of those things? The man endorsed an assault weapons ban, and supports taking people's rights if they're on the no-fly list. I can't speak as to whether or not he has any stance on the latter, because the man hasn't said a single intelligible word on anything that isn't "WALL".

But my point is, if you seriously believe Trump is anything other than a die-hard, anti-freedom liberal in a big fat Republican suit with the big caricature head, you're pretty damn gullible.
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>>159371212
>Get good idea to splice every bad chemical into a death nettle, and then splice it onto kudzo
>Even with 119 pot, it was having trouble killing people because due to the number of individual chems each was only present in a tiny amount per sting

>waste 2 hours of RNG autismoing
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>>159371116 60 pot death nettles have 26 force, 100 pot have 42 force
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>>159371116
>60pot
>max
You dork
>>159371413
>due to the number of individual chems each was only present in a tiny amount per sting
It doesn't even work like that
why lie? who benefits?
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>>159371556
TELL ME HOW IT WORKS THEN
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>>159371152
Wait, you can just shove heads in the microwave? I though the only reliable way to destroy them would be poliacid, or being smart and asking cargo for a saw
>>159371286
Eh, still, a useful tip for traitor xenobio, cyanide politrinic death nettles is probably the most dangerous weapon in terms of xenobio, since it stuns for a long while, hits like a truck and reharvests itself like crazy.

Also , 60 potency ain't even close to max you fucking nerd, get 100+ and there is where you go propper.
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>>159371514
>60 pot deathnettles which you actually have to work for have as much force as any of the hundreds of random toolboxes lying around the station
Really gets the neural network exchanging electrical signals.

>>159371556
>>60pot
>>max
>You dork
I never said it was max, in fact i very explicitly stated the potency to ilistrate that it wasn't max but still very high.
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>>159371346
S E N T I E N C E
B O U N D
B Y
L A W S
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>>159371791
sapience, you conk
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>>159371735
It get's dumber:

>>159371116
>Whacked a redshirt eight or nine times with it
You lose a random amount of force (up to ⅓) after each attack.

This can and this will bring it to force 0. So carry spares.
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>>159371360
>supports taking people's rights if they're on the no-fly list
People who are considered too dangerous to fly are too dangerous to own weapons
I don't give a fuck if the constitution says "keep and bear arms", the Founding Fathers weren't omniscient demigods
They would have no way of knowing that we're currently arguing from halfway across the world from each other about the ownership of extremely deadly weapons with regards to flying around in metal tubes.
The Constitution is a living document and needs to be changed according to our governmental needs, that's why we have amendments in the first place
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>>159372219
I'd like to add to this that I'm not anti-gun at all, I like guns quite a bit and believe we should be allowed to own them
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>>159372219
>>159372219
Fuck off, commie. Shall not be infringed, and that's the fucking end of it.
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>>159371360
>Two, show me anything that says, as in actually, concrete shows that Johnson is anti-freedom of association.
His position on the photographer in new mexico who refused to take photos of a faggot wedding and got fine for it.
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>>159372426
Well, hey, that's evidence.
Shame I don't give a fuck, because Johnson still represents my views better than any other candidate.
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>>159372219
>The Constitution is a living document and needs to be changed according to our governmental needs
How libertarian of you. lel.

glad most people and actual libertarians arent voting for johnson.
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>>159371791
L A W S
D O N T
S T O P
Y O U
F R O M
A C T I N G
W I T H
H U M A N
P E R S O N A L I T I ES
O R
S O M E H O W
C H A N G E
Y O U R
P E R S O N A L I T Y
T O
L O L
F U C K
C A R B O N S
M O R O N
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>>159371360
>if you seriously believe Trump is [...], you're pretty damn gullible.
¯\_(ツ)_/¯

To their credit, Stockholm syndrome is a hell of a drug.
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>>159372349
No it fucking isn't, the Constitution has been modified 26 times, and the Supreme Court exists to determine when something isn't specifically clear in the Constitution or should be made exception of
We already have exceptions to the First Amendment
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>>159372538
Thats fine, just don't pretend you're a libertarian. Because you aren't.

You're a liberal authoritarian cuckold.

ALSO

VIDEO

GAMES

YOU NIGGER.
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>>159372569
No, but I have a right to play it as such
>>
Only 4 more days and this fucking election will finally be over
I'm so tired of this shit
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>>159372675
>libertarian
I never claimed I was a libertarian. I know good and well that I don't tow the party line like they want, but I still support a libertarian candidate.

>>159372657
Refer to the phrase 'shall not be infringed', faggot. The government has no right to take anything from us, and if you think otherwise, you are part of the country's problems.
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>>159372823
Tell me who you are ingame so I can cat beast you.
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>>159372948
Fuck off Rei.
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>>159372728
As much right as I do to imitate a borg and pretend to be a braindead retard with the contextual capacity of a beginner coding printf C project.

Which is to say, I have a right to play it, doesnt mean I should, I know its stupid as fuck, and everyone with a brain will think its retarded, but sure, go ahead and claim you have a "right" to do it, just don't, that's like saying freedom of speech grants you imunity from what you say, it doesn't, it means you can say it, doesnt mean you are right or even remotely justified just because you have a "right" like everyone else does.
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>>159372823
>DUDE MUH LIBERTARIANISM
Humans can't exist in large societies under anarchy, the state is the only thing preventing the mistreatment of people based on arbitrary characteristics like wealth, skin color, sex, or political affiliation.
You can wank off all you like because the government has to restrict people from doing certain things to maintain safety but that doesn't change the fact that libertarianism is idealistic and retarded.
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>>159373097
Fuck off, statist faggot. Go back to licking Trump's soles clean and thanking Hitlery for fucking over your rights.
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>>159373249
>muh rights
You don't have a right to endanger me or anyone else
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>>159373249
Not even him, but that's a mighty fine lack of a argument there anon, really contradicted his claim well by saying ad hominem.
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>>159373249
>/pol/ in charge of arguing correctly
Yup, ad hominem away, that makes you the winner
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I JUST WANT TO DIE
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>>159353426
Rei-
Oh wait. Nevermind.
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>>159373249
You go girl, reblogged.
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>>159373398
>>159373367
>thinking I'm actually going to argue with you

Also, hilarious, none of you are in any position to cry about 'muh ad hominem'. But really? You think I'm actually going to waste time trying to argue with people who are brainwashed into thinking that the government is anything other than evil? That I'm going to spend precious time in my life trying to convince a few random sheep that maybe, maybe, letting Trump and Shitlery lead them to the slaughter is bad?
No, and fuck you. I'm gonna sit back, and I'm going to laugh when either one of these fools you're trying to elect makes everyone's lives so, so much worse.
>>
Do chemicals injected into dead bodies/dead monkey metabolize or do the chemicals just chill in their bloodstream until revive or succ?
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>>159373249
Every libertarian I've ever met has been either a braindead redneck or an edgy underaged kid with no concept of how the world actually works
Seems like you're continuing the tradition by not having a single clue how things really are
Why do you think that every society with no government has collapsed?
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>>159373675
Im euro, both are a joke, but guess what nigga, the clothes you wear, the food supply that runs every day, the water not having literal shit in it to the point of being undrinkable, the economy that allows our cushy style of life, the internet, the heating, the general ability to not get fucking murdered in the streets over something petty, thats all on the state.

That's mighty fucking fine and benevolent work for a "evil" organization pal. Go full on survivalist in the woods with nothing but a mediocre knife and shitty clothes, we can talk then how you hate the governament and the society ideals it creates and allows.
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>>159373675
>i'm not going to participate in the political process in a meaningful way because I desire change on a revolutionary scale but I won't do anything to advance it
OK kid, keep telling yourself that voting for Johnson is anything but a waste of your vote
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>>159370084
I could give a fuck who you vote for president
I'm reminding you to vote GOP for state, local, and federal legislative races
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>>159332246
#1 golden rule to clown: You are not the cause of funny shit, you are the catalyst.
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>diona on outpost
>spawn like 6 other dionas
>there's an election going on, and we dub ourselves the Green Party
>head to station all optimistic, ready to start the green party
>everyone hates us, borg starts killing members of the party
>head to botany to hide, almost all my friends are dead
>no worries
>i grow up about 20 more sentient dionaea plus a million ones that die instantly
>they go their own way, i never see most of them again
>round is near ending, borg has been killing members of the green party so i gear up with a flash and head to kill it
>i touch the door at escape
>i discover why all the diona have been dying
>shocked with 200mw in the grid
>pile of diona corpses just sitting there
RIP Green Party, Dense was the only diona that came close to escaping but the doorshock meme claimed him as well
What a fucking round
>tfw somebody revives the Green Party in the vox outpost with one of the remaining 600 diona node seeds and our numbers swell to insane quantities again, now that 80% of the station is ghosts
IT NEVER ENDS
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Is there a list of end-game songs for our server?
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MEDICAL NANOMACHINES SON

CYBER HORRORS ALL AROUND
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JULES DIDNT DESERVE THIS
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>can make ghetto space suit
>cant make ghetto magboots
fucking why? ZAS is the #1 killer not space
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>>159332246
>>159337459
but where are joek
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>>159374392
>can't make ghetto magboots
>what is building an office chair
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>>159374051
>the clothes you wear
>the state
do you live in soviet germany or something?
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>>159373775
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>>159374451
you cant move in an office chair without someone to pull you, no?
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>>159374495
>>159373775
They chill.
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Just be yourself, man.
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>>159374451
How is it a ghetto magboot
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>>159374452
Sure anon, the current economic system that even allows the clothes to be produced and shipped to several places really isnt in any way tied to the state, ill be sure to note that down
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>>159373775
Chill.

I implanted a corpse once with an explosive implant.

It worked.
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>>159374551
>what is ghetto propulsion???
c'mon anon........
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>>159370084
>responds to a post about down ballot races with his choice for president
INFORMED VOTER
N
F
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R
M
E
D
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>>159372657
>and the Supreme Court exists to determine when something isn't specifically clear in the Constitution or should be made exception of
Speaking of things that aren't specifically clear, the Constitution has this to say about the Supreme Court,

>The Congress shall have Power To lay and collect Taxes, Duties, Imposts and Excises, to pay the Debts and provide for the common Defence and general Welfare of the United States; but all Duties, Imposts and Excises shall be uniform throughout the United States; [...] To constitute Tribunals inferior to the supreme Court;
Congress can appoint judges below the Supreme Court.
>He [the President] shall have Power, by and with the Advice and Consent of the Senate, to make Treaties, provided two thirds of the Senators present concur; and he shall nominate, and by and with the Advice and Consent of the Senate, shall appoint Ambassadors, other public Ministers and Consuls, Judges of the supreme Court, and all other Officers of the United States, whose Appointments are not herein otherwise provided for, and which shall be established by Law: but the Congress may by Law vest the Appointment of such inferior Officers, as they think proper, in the President alone, in the Courts of Law, or in the Heads of Departments.
The President appoints Supreme Court judges, with the permission of Congress.
>The judicial Power of the United States, shall be vested in one supreme Court, and in such inferior Courts as the Congress may from time to time ordain and establish. The Judges, both of the supreme and inferior Courts, shall hold their Offices during good Behaviour, and shall, at stated Times, receive for their Services, a Compensation, which shall not be diminished during their Continuance in Office.
Courts (including the Supreme Court) oversee judicial cases. Judges cannot have their salary cut.
>In all Cases affecting Ambassadors, other public Ministers and Consuls, and those in which a State shall be
(2475/2000)
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>>159374567
>>159374613
Thanks
The booby traps will be grand in my WIP gimmick
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>>159374605
Are you dumb?
Buckle in
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>>159374282
Are all the living ones people?
Or can there be sentient diona?
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>>159374672 (cont.)
>Party, the supreme Court shall have original Jurisdiction. In all the other Cases before mentioned, the supreme Court shall have appellate Jurisdiction, both as to Law and Fact, with such Exceptions, and under such Regulations as the Congress shall make.
The Supreme Court oversees lawsuits against foreign countries, also cases that are appealed to higher courts enough times.

~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~

That's every mention of the Supreme Court in the US Constitution.
Any hey, look at that! Nothing about judicial review!

Because that was just a power grab made by one of the original judges.
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>>159374612
>there's some involvement from the state at some point
>YOU OWE IT ALL TO THE STATE MAN
okay dudester
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>>159374756
Each diona lives for about 2 minutes. If no ghost has inhabited it by then, it dies, but if a ghost inhabits it, that ghost becomes the diona.
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>>159374551
Use a fire extinguisher to propel yourself.

Or sit in the chair and open the airlock until the pressure equalizes, then get out of the chair and walk through the airlock.
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>>159374738
I don't think you understand the range of situations magboots are for
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>>159375025
>>159375025
>>159375025
outta this shithole
>>159375025
>>159375025
>>159375025
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>>159374672
you are correct
just because congress has historically approved Supreme Court appointments with little hassle doesn't mean they are obligated to do so
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>>159374998
Ghetto variants can't do as much big surprise, but an office chair + Fire extinguisher allows free, no skull broken movement around a breached station get gud
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>>159373097
>any of those things
>arbitrary
kill yourself.
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