Final Fantasy General CCCXXIX - /ffg/

Should I being using Tifa or Yuffie for FFVII?

The XIII one was made and linked first, but... I like III.

>>159234815
Other thread is another shitpost OP, probably the same guy from before

This one isn't so the choice is clear

Two more sacred crystals, then I need to get 13 seeds of life for Vaan, and then back to the sacred crystal farms for Rydia

BE is ugly! UGLY!

>>159234696
Yuffie.
Cloud/Yuffie/Cid best party.

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切り株

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>>159235618
>切り株
>google search
>get this

10/10

>>159234942
Wow dude, you truly are the most autistic of them all.

>>159235618
Good morning, Stumpy

How valuable are the various currencies in mobius? Summon/ability/friend/spirit tickets, crystals, all these phoenix downs and elixirs. Which should I be conservative and which would I save up for later/imporant shit?

also screw the haters threads back that were saying this game was shit, its fun

>>159236170
Sorry for not liking your thread R1C74 or whoever you are

Is there rerolling in Mobius?

>>159236685
Literally who?

Hope I draw something good on the Onion Knight banner.

>>159237051
Your chances are pretty good, so you probably won't.

6* exdeath... When?

>>159236823
There is but I wouldn't bother unless you get Red Mage or Samurai

>>159236526
Ability tickets come in like mythril from RK, one daily and usually clumped together in chests, elixers and phoenix downs are somewhat as common

Summon tickets/crystals are rare and should be valued, though crystals can occasionally be dropped from bosses

Friend tickets and spirit tickets don't technically have any value since cactuars can be grinded for pretty easily and changing the companion spirit doesn't do anything besides making Echo more cute

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> mfw my setup with WoL dual wielding Sakurafubuki/Chirijiraden still outdamages my Kefka DWing Lilith/Wizard Rod instead by a good margin

>>159236526
Honestly, I wouldn't mind giving mobius a whirl when it comes to steam.

I just hope that my toaster doesn't die while trying to run it.

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22nd for Aranea Highwind (best girl)

>>159237386
Ok thanks. So what kind of things should I use my crystals for? I notice that the last node of a class page allows me to use a crystal for unlocking a new job or upgrading my weapon (and also accessing the next page), is it worth spending the crystal for this or is there something more important?

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>>159237550
So since they made it clear she is part of a mercenary group hired by the Empire, does this mean she is the obligatory sympathetic antagonist that aids the heroes?

I would be pretty okay with that if that was the case.

Shame we know she won't be a party member or anything

>>159237606
Spend the cystals on summoned jobs ideally

That means not the onion classes

Here is my plan for tomorrow

11 roll and then drop all my tickets

I will stop regardless if I get Luneth or not, wont do any daily because I need to save some JEWels for second chance of lightning in FF13 banner

Sounds good or sounds JUST?

>>159238884
Sounds whatever.

Threadly reminder that Vayne Solidor did nothing wrong.

>>159238884
>wont do any daily
Why, though. Just do a bunch of dailies instead of the 11x pull. 11x pulls are awful in global.

A "Trade Holy Crystals for Sacred Crystals" exchange when?

>>159239143
11 pull guarantees a 4 star.

>>159239307
Thanks for the info, anon.
It means your odds of getting a rainbow are multiplied by 5 for ONE of your crystals. That's a tiny increase and not worth the higher cost. Dailies give you more rolls.

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ded general, ded fantasy, ded board

>>159239489
Why not do both?

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>>159238004
>>159237952
>she shows a hint of midriff

>>159240047
If you're desperately trying to pull for something, what you should do is just do dailies until the last day, and then if you're not satisfied THAT'S when you go crazy. Dump your tickets, do your 11x pulls, whatever.

>>159240185
True, but then I'd have to wait 2 weeks. Plus, I can basically get a few thousand free lapis every couple days anyway.

>>159240281
NANI?!?!?

>>159240281
If you removed the "free" part, that would look about right.
Anyway, patience is key for these gacha games. If you want to have resources for later banners and not be filled with regret, you should pull as efficiently as possible. Blowing your load early is generally not a good idea.

>>159240324
Long story short, I'm a personal assistant to a rich asshole. I have a credit card on his account that I'm allowed to use to do shopping for him. I buy google play gift cards for myself a couple times a week when I do his grocery shopping. He'll never notice.

So is this just Alternative Girls without the cute waifus?

>>159240504
SOUNDS LIKE YOURE THE ASSHOLE

Threadly reminder that Vayne Solidor would look better with a moustache.

>>159240581
What did he mean by this?

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>tfw have all the Mats for 6* CoD and are just waiting for the banner to drop.

>>159240591
No. Trust me. I've seen some shit. You wouldn't believe some of the shit rich fucks do. I don't feel the least bit bad about doing it. He'll never miss it anyway.

Will Square ever make a Tactics game for handheld console again?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qPHj687XFVY
FFTA2 was 6 yo ago.

>>159241084
>6 yo ago.
9 years old ago i meant.

>>159239307
Which increases your odds of getting a base 5* to 4% for exactly one of your 11 pulls (your odds of getting specifically Luneth are only increased to 2.5% for that one pull).

The other 10 pulls are still at 0.8% for any base 5*, and 0.5% for Luneth.

For a base 4*, this only increases the chances of that one pull to 42.75% for that one pull, the other 10 are still 3.8%.

If you add these together, you can see why it's a bad idea. You're spending way more lapis and getting very little in return.

>>159241250
>The other 10 pulls are still at 0.8% for any base 5*
STOP

>>159240762

not that i'm against stealing from rich people but your liability does not seem in line with the rewards here

>>159240762
This is kinda interdasting. Which country are you from?

>>159237280
A month at worst. We'll get the fully awakened VOIDTREE before the end of this year.

>>159240185
For me, I'll do the ticket pulls for Refia on the 16th since that is when the last ticket is gotten on the banner if I don't pull her on the dailies. I'll do an 11 pull for Refia the day after if I don't get her with 17 tickets.

Though in order to pull for the dailies, you need about 3000 Lapis stored up or 1950 without spending any on expansions and doing the daily quests.

>>159241354
Eh, possibly. I'll never get caught, though. I pay all his bills anyway.

>>159241309
They are though?

80% of the rainbow pool is base 5*.
You're an idiot if you're still debating this fact after half a dozen 5* bases exist. Even with those odds, your chances of pulling a specific base 5* are 0.16% and dropping constantly.

There would be no room for it to be lower.

>>159241084
no

>>159241585
>They are though?
You know, I was on you for like an hour or longer for you to provide a source for this earlier that wasn't a Reddit/altema survey, and you didn't.
You're just assuming that it's a 0.8% chance, and you're ALSO assuming that it's always been like that and it always will until the big gacha change. It's fucking stupid and you're constantly pushing it as fact.

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>>159241598
Why?
Just played A2 recently , and suddenly got hit by a wave of nostalgia for the gameplay and mechanics, why can't they make another one?

>>159241913
it solds like shit.

>>159241913
handholds are dead senpai

>>159241821
You were arguing with someone else I'm guessing, because I provided pictures of the old ingame JP gacha rates.

It is fact. Most rainbow crystals are 5* bases.

And regardless, we know for sure that the on banner rates for Luneth are going to be 0.5% (because that's what every base 5* is on these banners from surveys, and the JP gacha confirms this too)

Provide some evidence for why it isn't 0.8% and you'll have a point. But right now you have nothing to backup your claim, whereas I have many many many different sources.

I still miss Terranon's Eternal remindees and Ultrosposter antics ;_;

>>159241821

Not them, but here's to hoping rarities normalize increasing chances of those drops as new 4* and 5* units fill the pool rather than what's being proposed which is the rates stay the same meaning all rare units will only get more rare as time goes on.

I can imagine Global being super stingy and doing it the latter way though.

>>159242285
>whereas I have many many many different sources
Like what? Reddit surveys typically have base 5*s at more than 0.8%, this Halloween banner had the two on-banner base 5*s at over 1% total for fuck sake. It's part of why they're such horseshit.

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>>159242204
>>159242196

I just needed 2 sacred crystals and the goddamn Pro chamber of awakening gave me one on the very last enemy it's doing this out of spite

>>159242492
I'm hoping that they put a more expensive 10000 roll option for a guaranteed 5* 11 roll with higher than normal rates for 4*/5* for the remaining 10(instead of the 90/9/1 ratio of 3*/4*/5* on the normal 11 roll it would be 50/40/10) for a risk vs reward type roll. At least it would reward you with the 5* base unit you want but at a major loss of Lapis for F2P and for whales this would be the ideal banner to spend it on.

>>159242492
It has always been the latter way in JP, at least as long as we've gotten official rates. The rates are set, and the individual rates just get lower as the pool expands.

Which is what makes the whole argument stupid, because there had to be some magical point where Gumi changed the gacha in our favor but said nothing about it to incentivize pulling. And then they're going to do it again in global?

There's no evidence pointing to this happening. This is like creationists arguing that the laws of physics just decided to change one day despite no evidence suggesting that.

>>159242616
Bragging bias. People who pull interesting units are many times more likely to report.

The report itself claims as much, there needs to be better restrictions on data entry.

>>159243136
>The report itself claims as much, there needs to be better restrictions on data entry
Okay, but since there isn't they aren't a good source for data. So again, what is your ACTUAL source?

>>159242438
I miss busanon

>>159243225
You'll notice how they have "expected rates" on every one of these pulls?

Where do you think they get that information from? They don't just pull it out of their ass, they use the long-established official JP rates from before the FFVI banner.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1loKOK9ZyZhMzHaAY_24GzzYC3uFP7VuyTBEfAh7wWsM

These ledditors dedicate a lot of time to analyzing the gacha, way more than you do. And they accept the JP rates as fact.
It's literally only you who thinks it can't be 0.8%.

>>159243448
>busanon
they /a/ invader that tried to be like the guy from Densha Otoko and that even stole whole phrases from that movie?

nahhh

>>159243524
>long-established official JP rates from before the FFVI banner
That's kind of the thing, though. Rates were only revealed immediately before the VI banner. People see this 0.8% number and just kind of assume that it was around ever since Lightning was released, which is ridiculous.

>>159240727
Sauce?

>>159243136
>There's no evidence pointing to this happening. This is like creationists arguing that the laws of physics just decided to change one day despite no evidence suggesting that.
You're tipping too hard. Noone says that.

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Can you choose which party member to walk around as in FF12 zodiac

How's FF3 on steam, good release?

>>159244652
>Can you choose which party member to walk around as in FF12 zodiac
If you mean in towns, no. You're still Vaan.

>>159244652
>How's FF3 on steam, good release?
Mobile port :^)

>Can you choose which party member to walk around as in FF12 zodiac
I don't understand this question.

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>>159244391
Ken Ham's cabal does this to help enforce biblical literalism. He'll say that whatever thing we measured is only indicative of the current state, and that none of our scientific measurements can be accurate.

The gacha works by keeping the same fixed rates and introducing more units into a fixed size pool. It has always worked this way, and you'd be ignoring evidence to say otherwise.

>>159243961
The nips have always known most rainbows are base 5*s though. Ask one sometime.

The official rates only confirm suspicions and make things more accurate. There is no reasonable foundation to think it isn't 0.8%.

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>Cidney
>Gentiana
>Aranea
>Luna
Does XV have the best girls in the series?

>>159244878

He wants to look at some sweet ff12 booty. It was the main reason penelo was on my team at all

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>thread made and linked second
>OPs are the same, no shitposting
>people using this one for some reason

you faggots are why we have thread wars. wtf is this?

>>159245559
>OPs are the same, no shitposting
But that's wrong.
It's over now anyway, deal with it.

>2nd banner of CoD event in JPRK
HOLY SHIT ALL ONION RELICS

>>159245651
>one tiny extra line
holy shit ffg is a bunch of babbies. i'll just remember our lax thread picking rules in the future :^) hope you like waifu wars

Reminder to those playing WoFF. Gravity trivializes a lot of boss fights so you should always have it.

>>159245845
You missed the op image that defiled the face of our Goddess Lightning-sama. :^)

>>159245559
>see two threads
>go in whichever has higher reply/id count
>don't make retarded posts about waah thread wars
It's not fucking hard, you stupid fag.

>>159245845
>>159245559
t. Other OP

>>159245826
I'm going hard on the first Onion banner anyway, and there's a decent amount of overlap there so that's probably a pass for me.
Plus it's got all those Desch relics, which is fucking disgusting.

>Last thing left to get is the mask
>22k short
I'm not even all that sure I care about getting it. Exdeath can't wear it and I imagine we'll get better mage hats down the line. I'd rather burn the corn on some more 6* mats since I need five more of two different ones to be able to 6* both CoD and Refia.

What are some good magic based Mirages in WoFF.
I'm at Chapter 21 for reference.

>>159246836
Oh, I didn't get the knife or burst pots either, but both of those are just bleh to me.

>>159246836
No, we will never get better mage hats, you fucked up bad boy.

The best hat is only 25 MAG in JP. And it costs 100 FUCKING QUARTZ

>>159246836
>and I imagine we'll get better mage hats
lol
JP hates mages and mage equipment

>>159247273
>>159247435
Eh, I still have 12 hours and I'm more than safe to burn a handful of lapis if I need to.
I'm burning my tickets and then I'm only daily pulling until I get Refia, so I won't really hurt too bad on lapis, especially since I still have the new story stuff to do anyways.

>WoFF is fun
>RK is not dead
>my team in BE is not bad and just made it to A Rank ADV Coliseum
>XV is less than a month away
>Cubs win World Series

Life is grand

>>159244845
>>159244878

Yea I mean like the character you move around the map as, couldnt remember if you have to use Vaan, hate him and his stupid costume

>Luneth's OSB relic is the Dragoon Lance and the SB is called Sky Flash
I like that Luneth has retroactively become the game's best Dragoon just from them deciding to give him the skillset one day as a buff.

It's like they gave him a class change, which is very appropriate.

>>159247964
>Cubs
Subhuman detected.

>>159247978
You can use the one you want. There is no real protagonist.

>>159248160
You're locked to Vaan in towns.

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> play Arena against an opposing top tier team
> the opponent's Teedus double casts Meteor

Who in the name of fuck does equip those materia on fucking Teedus, out of all things?

>>159248285
I didn't remember that part.

>>159240609
No.
He wouldn't look particularly bad with one, as the simple addition of facial hair couldn't possibly harm his attractiveness that much regardless of its form, but his physical features are quite perfect as it is and there's no need to change that.

>>159247964
My team is pretty great and Refia would be that cherry on top. I would run Toblerone/Pencil/VOIDTREE/III Waifu and rotate the final slot between Rosy Weaponmaster/Mad Mage Klown God/Avatar of Chaos. I got 23 tickets to pull for Refia not factoring in the 4 tickets we will get during the banner.

I'm also in ADV Colosseum A-Rank 3 and getting to the Defender bracer. I'm going to give the Toblerone the Blood Sword to go with that Enhancer and then give the Death Scythe to Pencil.

>>159248407
I didn't even know he could equip Meteor.

>>159248438
Well you are. Any time you're in a town, the rest of your party disappears and you run around as only Vaan. A lot of of the game's sidequest dialogue is written from the perspective that the player character is Vaan, particularly the hunts.

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So new Dissidia character on the 7th. Guesses?

>>159248747
Caius Ballad!

>>159248791
oh god no

>>159248747
Thundergod Cid

A man can dream

>>159246994
Yeah knife is a decent stopgap for new players but if you're past the need for it, you'll never need it.

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>>159248884
We need more of Liam O'Brien's sultry dulcet tones.

>>159248586
It's Golbez TM.

>>159248503
> Pencil
> III Waifu

Who are those?

>>159249016
Kain's already in the game.

>>159249017
I know, but I didn't know he had a high enough Black level to equip it.

>>159249017
Paladin Cecil is pencil and III Waifu is Refia.

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>>159248791
>>159249016
More of a true hero in XIII than Vayne was in XII, even still lived and won with a harem.

>"Does my victory still sting?"

>>159249081
Kain can have a conversation with Caius. We'd all benefit.

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>When the D's Toblerone helps clear the horseman.
Thank you anon.

>>159248791
>>159249016
>>159249389
Sure. Every game deserves a villain rep and he's better than the old fart in XIII.

>>159249389
>Implying anyone was more of a hero than the True Hero
No.

>>159248747
Noctis

>>159248407
>>159248586
>>159249081
It's probably not meteor, it's probably Gau's TM (which is also meteor, but physical instead)

It's basically the best single hit physical attack in the game, so it makes sense he'd have it equipped.

>>159212450
>your odds of getting Refia are going to be 54.7055%.

This number seems a little suspect, can I see your methodology

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>>159246262
no, just someone that posted in the other thread cause it was first and other people were in it. just thought you guys were better than this. i bet it was because of the lightning defiling, wasn't it?

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>>159248747
GIRUGAMESH

>>159250070
I didn't mean to post that pic there btw. My guess is Sephiroth or Ultimecia

>>159250215
BAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARTZ

>>159250118
You can post all the smug anime girls you want, it doesn't change the fact that you're a butthurt whiner.

>>159250029
Yeah, that makes sense.

Although I can't agree it's the best ability. The Gilgamesh trial materia hits for even more. And the damage is already capped at 999 damage before chaining.

I'd rather have more dual-wielding Setzers to maximize the rape.

>>159249630
Ehh... Sure.

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>>159248747

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>>159250418
pay some respect douchebag that's THE smug anime girl

>>159250604
>Ace
Ew. No.

>>159250721
He's already in the game.

>>159250721
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FUy0JusaqD0
Pretty good gameplay but shitty remix again

>>159250861
>>159250784
Ohh.. Maybe I would've known it. IF THE GAME WAS FUCKING RELEASED ON THE WEST REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

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> put up top tier Agrias for the current FFT event
> get 176 friend uses today

Nice

>got everything I wanted from candy corn
>want to move on to the new trial, do the new story
>but that candy corn money is too freaking good

tomorrow can't come fast enough, gonna burn all my fucking tickets. If I get my stuff from them I can start hoarding lapis again, going really low.

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>>159248747
As much as I want the Twins to be in it, I know they won't be.

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>>159250604
how do you say ramza's last name

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>>159248747

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I never want to see another seed of life again holy shit thats bullshit. Once my energy refills its back to getting sacred crystals for Rydia

>>159250975
> selling Candy Corn instead of stockpiling 6* mats

You're doing it wrong, buddy. There's no use for the money until we get abiltity enchantments many months later.

>>159250861
Barely sounds any different from the original song.

>>159250989
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OPyRgkWnemw
At 2:30

>>159250989
bay-oh-live

>>159250989
I pronounce it like a french
Bé oule veu

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>>159250721
...But, but he has cutest win animation in BE!

>>159251208
I have -plenty- of 6* mats. I'll be fine. I burned through most of my money shoving cactaurs down Cecil's throat. This money has its uses.

>>159250067
Binomial distribution my dude. Learn 2 statistical analysis.

There's a 5.5% chance of getting refia on a single pull. We get 14 pulls.

So do ((14!)/(1!(14-1)!))(0.055^1)(1-0.055)^(14-1). But you'll ask "that's only 36.9%!"

Yes, but those are your odds for getting EXACTLY one Refia. You need to add in your chances of getting more than one for it to be accurate, and to account for when you stop early if you get her.

So add ((14!)/(2!(14-2)!))(0.055^2)(2-0.055)^(14-2), ((14!)/(3!(14-3)!))(0.055^3)(3-0.055)^(14-3)...etc all the way up until ((14!)/(14!(14-1)!))(0.055^14)(14-0.055)^(14-14).

Bam zoom 54.7055%.

>>159251218
I think I need to play the PSP version of this

>>159251402
There aren't all that many of those cutscenes in the PSP version, but you still should.

>>159251379
>There's a 5.5% chance of getting refia on a single pull

well where does this number come from?

>>159251379
5.5% seems a bit high.

>>159251183
There is a couch.
But they have probably been sleeping in the same bed since they were babs, they see nothing wrong with it.

>>159250952
Hey fellow JP player, should I buy the dagger or buy tickets? Also why are there four kinds of tickets to buy from Google King?

Threadly reminder that Delita Heiral did nothing wrong.

>>159251517
>>159251595
That's what it's expected to be based on both the JP rates and the FF4 banner, which had an identical structure (3*/3*/4*/5*). Rosa's pull rate was basically 5.5% last time around (it was overreported as 6%, but that's acceptable).

Even if you doubt that for some reason, it's not going to be much more or less than 50% odds of getting refia on all the dailies.

>>159250952
where do you see friend uses

>>159251762
>Rosa's pull rate was basically 5.5% last time around (it was overreported as 6%, but that's acceptable).

Overreported from where? I don't see where you're getting these numbers. It's like last night's discussion all over again

>>159251052
a Warrior of Darkness is more likely.

>>159251879
Incoming Reddit link.
https://www.reddit.com/r/FFBraveExvius/comments/58aimr/survey_result_ff4_banner/

>>159251879
Leddit.

It was a very accurate survey in terms of rarity overall, so it isn't far from 6%.
Add to that the fact that we know it should be 5.5% from JP, and what do you think?

>>159251698
>should I buy the dagger or buy tickets?
Why not both?

>why are there four kinds of tickets to buy from Google King?
They're the same tickets, just with a different cost. Global does the same thing, your first couple tickets are cheaper, then your next couple are more expensive, and so on.

>tfw when really good banner but what you really want is a second Edgar

I'll probably get 10 luneths or something ;_;

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>materials for CoD's awakening ready to go
>25 gigantaurs ready to pour into her
>don't have a weapon for her

mixed feels man.

>>159252256
>he didn't get the lunar dildo

>>159252124
>>159252135
This is hardly scientific, anyone can report they got any number of any unit.

Do you guys believe the 1.6% Lightning crap too

>>159251719
Threadly reminder that Garland did nothing wrong.

Threadly reminder that CoD did nothing wrong.

Threadly reminder that Golbez did nothing wrong.

Threadly reminder that Exdeath did nothing wrong.

Threadly reminder that Kefka did nothing wrong.

Threadly reminder that Sephiroth did nothing wrong.

Threadly reminder that Kuja did nothing wrong.

Threadly reminder that Sin did nothing wrong.

Threadly reminder that Vanye Solidor did something wrong.

Threadly reminder that Caius did nothing wrong.

AM I DONE YET!? I deleted Emperor and Ultimecia because they did something wrong. He was wrong in the beginning.

>>159252238
Don't worry anon, that reverse psychology won't work. You'll get a bunch of Edgars, Shadows, and every BE original in-between.

>>159252440
CoD is literally a force of destruction that wants to drown the world in darkness forever

>>159252391
i regret it mang

i was busier during the summer and wasn't playing mobage much RIP

>>159252135
Although I forgot to account for one thing: Refia is going to be rarer than Rosa.

In BE, there are special base 4*s that can automatically grow to 6* on release. These have a slightly rarer chance of showing up (specifically, they're 20% rarer than regular base 4*s). Refia is our first one of these in the game, so the whole gacha is about to get much stranger for a while.

Refia's rates could be as low as 4.4% on banner, meaning only 46.7389% chances with the dailies.

>>159252407
They pruned the obvious bullshit responses this time, though.
It's not diagnostic, but it conforms with the prevailing assumption about her rate.

It certainly doesn't disprove the consensus, which hasn't failed us yet.

>>159252518
thanks man but I really want another edgar lol. Hope you too pull what you want m8

>>159252124
>All "Questionable" Responses Removed
>it's still off from what they "expect"
>they still assume the "expected" numbers are correct even though it's off every goddamn time

>>159252558
COD DID NOTHING WRONG. SHE IS A FORCE OF NATURE!!! ITS LIKE BLAMING THE RAIN THAT YOUR HAIR GOT WET, BUT YOU DIDN'T GET AN UMBRELLA!

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>>159251782
JP only for now. The friend use boni get only added much later, I think it was around July for the JP version.

>>159252440
>Threadly reminder that Kefka did nothing wrong.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA

>>159252675
but where are you even getting these numbers from aside from reddit polls

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>this much currency in one run
>>159252837
Jesus, what was that Agrias?

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>>159252440
>Sephiroth did nothing wrong.

>>159251879
>It's like last night's discussion all over again
Because you keep arguing over what are clearly estimations of game odds. No one is ever going to know exact numbers no matter how much effort, and you're supposed to take anything said with a grain of salt, be it researched or directly pulled from anus.

>>159252407
>This is hardly scientific
No fucking shit.

>>159252440
>Threadly reminder that Vanye Solidor did something wrong.
Don't trigger him anon
.>>159252846
He is insane, he didn't know any better.

>>159252749
pretty sure she's sentient

>>159252906
JP surveys on Alternative before the gacha change? Oh wait, hardly scientific.

>>159252906
The official JP gacha rates they revealed before the shift, which themselves agree with similar surveys done by the japanese.

The japs thought Refia had like a 5% chance at the time too, so we know it's probably not far off from that. Scour through some 2ch threads if you don't believe me.

Why not say it's the same as the official rates they revealed, then? The narrative fits, and I don't see you coming out with an alternative story.

>>159253169
>>159253218
so what you're telling me is that you have no proof aside from hearsay

I bet you believe the 1.6% lightning thing too

>>159253093
>He is insane, he didn't know any better.
That's not how that works.

>>159253382
He has no direct proof that this particular banner is like that, he's just using numbers that WERE provided later in the game and assuming that it also applies to this.
Not really the best way to go about it, but it's likely not that far from the truth (if at all) anyway so it's not the worst way either.

Just let people believe what they want to believe.

>>159252982
He went insane learning that his life was a lie by reading a lie. All he had left was reaching for his mother and his newly found hatred of mankind. You would've done the same, anon if you had nothing to live for. He didn't do any wrong, all deaths were because of him trying to find himself. I'm autistic I know. [ spoiler]

>>159253382
Of course I don't believe that. Studies show that you've got a 3.14% chance for lightning through 2016. Will be 5.8% starting in 2017.

>>159253679
He learned the full truth about Jenova and the ancients after falling into the planet's core. He was still evil after that.
Though if I had to pick one thing he did wrong, it was keeping a petty-ass grudge against Cloud and tormenting the guy. If you want revenge, just kill him.

>>159253382
No, because that didn't fit with the model. It was obviously overreporting, and leddit just accepted every number even if it was "I pulled 5 lightnings on my first try lel"

There is not a single thing that refutes this gacha model, and tons of evidence that conforms with it. It's our best current bet for understanding pull rates, and if nothing else it's within a very good ballpark of the truth.

The alternative is we just don't analyze pulls at all and pretend like it's totally random, which is dumb. If you have some genuine evidence for these rates not representing our current gacha, I would genuinely like to see them so I can make the model better.

But this is as good as it gets. Even if it's slightly off by fractions of percents, my numbers are correct enough that you won't know the difference.

>>159252440
>Threadly reminder that Vanye Solidor did something wrong.
>something
We're going on a bumpy ride.

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>>159251052
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QiGNidlnJmA

>>159254219
>crazy tranny slut
>showing up before THE BLACK WOLF

>>159252440
Can someone explain where this guy is coming from?

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dumb question of the day.
does combining a character with a duplicate that has 20% trust really give you 25%

>>159255838
Yes.

>>159256064
good to know.
didn't want to finish and realize that i overgrinded when i could have started something else

>>159254526
>tranny

dumb ARR poster

>>159256347
>he doesn't know
Nael's been a girl from the start
She's just too crazy to correct anyone when they call her a guy, and her armor is based on her dead brother.

Emperor Mateus?
Xande?
Jenova?
Hojo?
Ultimecia?
Raogrimm?
Nag'molda?
Razfahd?
Lilith?
Balmor?
Nael?
Gaius?
Thordan?
Nidhogg?

Did any of them do anything wrong?

I'm so excited to pull Luneth tomorrow, it's going to be great

>>159256597
Yes to all of them.

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>>159256749
Me too, maybe he'll be my first 5* pull

>>159256597
>Xande?
Froze a planet in crystal stasis and let darkness grow out of balance with light. Wanting to live isn't wrong, but causing an apocalypse is.
>Jenova?
Nonsapient virus, it doesn't make decisions. Nothing wrong.
>Hojo?
Did everything wrong. Complete madman responsible for everything bad.
>Thordan?
Had the right intentions, but the wrongest methodology. Primals cannot solve the problem of Zodiark. To a one, their existence will drag Hydaelyn under the depths of darkness. If a primal could save the world, Alexander would have done it already.
>Nidhogg?
Did nothing wrong, but it's truly unfortunate that dragons have perfect everlasting memories. He cannot forget how his sister was butchered and how his own eyes were torn out. It's always as fresh as if it happened yesterday. Bygones cannot be bygones for a dragon.

>>159257235
>Nonsapient
nice fanfiction

>>159256597
>>159257235
Jenova is canonically a gigantic asshole, though

Remember when her Sephiroth apparition beaned Cloud with the Destruct materia and then flew off like Superman?

How much time is left to do the XII event? I haven't done the ultimate and up since I've been going all out on double greens farming.

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>>159257341
>>159257445
Read the Ultimania guide.
Jenova is an epidemic, not a person. It has precisely two impulses: spread more Jenova and then Reunite into a Jenova amalgamate. This amalgamate then goes to find new things to infect.
Sephiroth was the one to make Jenova do any other behavior with his immense magical abilities and willpower.

>>159257539
>muh ultimania

pathetic desu unless you have the specific page to post.

did you know in ultimania it also says that you require cocks up your ass daily to survive?

>still haven't beaten Final fantasy 3
Should I pick it up again, anons? I only got to part where the one guy jumps in the tower lava pit and dies.

>>159257539
Cool tell me more about other interesting canon things like Genesis and Kadaj

>>159257693
He's fine anon.

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>>159257634
I've got the page on me, yeah.
It says that while Jenova is "cunning" in its own way, it is nothing but instinctual programmed responses like a virus.

>>159257235
Alexander couldn't and can't do shit as it's in a perpetual time loop. Even if it did, Eorzea and the whole planet would die before it could do anything.

XIV's Alexander-a-shit

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>>159252957
I stacked any good trial equipment/materias I had, including Gilgamesh AoE attack materia, for maximum whore-out during the event. And it works.

I still need to give her more pots for more stat boosts since I'll use her as a budget Orlandu for light chain rape.

I've never played a FF game, but I liked the demo (at least the fighting part of it) should I get FFXV?

>>159257235
>>159257836
mmo shitters throw yourselves in the trash please

>>159257836
>Alexander couldn't and can't do shit as it's in a perpetual time loop.
Of its own volition.
>Even if it did, Eorzea and the whole planet would die before it could do anything.
Yes.. I think you missed the point there. That's what primals do. A primal can't save the world, only kill it.

what's the best way to get Litrock?

>159257879
>not even a new ip
come the fuck on you piece of shit. we deserve better

>>159257693
Sure, you're about more than a ¼ done. Go for it

>>159257982
Sirens tower first floor, imps and headstones drop them and can be stolen from them

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FFXIV's Alexander will always get a pass from me

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v89qYANJGMQ

>>159258085
So I should bring the thief Locke.

>>159258142
Anyone who can steal, Locke, Vaan, Zidane, just bring them and steal as much as you can

>>159257879
Sure? You don't need to play any of the previous games if that's why you're asking.

>>159257963
Even then all the events that happened, were supposed to happen. Adventurer/Meteor interfering and all. Predestination paradox.

Alexander, canonically, was a waste of time that needed to happen.

@159257905
Can't deal that people play both MMO & Non-MMO FFs? No (you)s for you.

there's a general for that sort of cancer. you are welcome to go there.

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>>159258105
Brute Justice for me cause I'm a Toku mark.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wLCWCPyxByg

>>159256497
She's the main villian from XIV, would not know why they won't let her in.

>>159258534
I don't think Alexander gives a damn about predestination paradoxes. The only paradox that concerned it was the grandfather paradox; it had to ensure that its own existence came into being. So long as that's maintained it can do whatever.

>>159258841
Again, XIV Alexander is retarded as shit.

>>159258684
>Didn't reply.
Pussy.. You probably played the original.

>try the cm in rk
>Everything is great until mazer eye

I had divine guardian, shell and fb and it did 6k+ to everyone. Is that a physical move?

>>159258931
I found it to be refreshing that we had a truly benevolent primal. It wanted to help everyone, it wanted to save the world, but the world was too fragile for its hammer of justice.
Ramuh was pretty nice too, but ultimately he was a neutral judge, not a good person. If he found the WoL wanting, he would have executed them and destroyed the people of Eorzea with the same ruthlessness as any other primal.

>this nigga so desperate for (You)s

.............l-m-a-o................

>>159258841
It coming into being from a Grandfather paradox, is a Predestination Paradox. It's a primal that was supposed to have been made because of events that happen from the future.

Potentially yes, it has the power to destroy the World. But it never can and never will because of the paradox. Thus it's a lake filler that was always destined to be a tourist spot.

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calm down meow.

>>159259095
>I found it to be refreshing that we had a truly benevolent primal
Enkidu

>>159259309
>bc lid gets so much love
>mommy chizuru gets so little

it's not fair

what do you do with your low tier trust mastered units? Use them for mission rewards?

>>159259309
UGLY!

>>159255838
Well you get 20 since the dupe had 20. Then you get 5 for fusing a dupe so yeah 25

>>159259223
So long as it fulfilled the conditions of its creation (dropping Dayan and Mide off in the distant past), it could've done anything else. It didn't have to freeze itself in time. It just chose to, because otherwise things start breaking and they cannot be fixed.

>>159259095
I disagree on ramuh's neutrality. he pretty much agrees with you just doesn't think you're strong enough to do it. so he challenges you and even fucking unsummons himself once he sees your strength.

>>159259445
yeah, it choose to because it had to. There literally was not enough Aether in the land for it to do anything other than move two feet and raise it's back.

>>159259698
That's because he's fair. His judgment is even. If you pass, you get everything you asked for. If you were to fail, he's as brutal as Ifrit and Garuda.
>>159259753
At the very least, it simulated a valid possibility of leaping 5 years into the past and gunning down Bahamut's fat ass. It determined that while it "happens", the world ends shortly thereafter, and so it shouldn't do that.

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>it's a discuss an MMO's storyline episode

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>>159259996
>At the very least, it simulated a valid possibility of leaping 5 years into the past and gunning down Bahamut's fat ass.
you take that back motherfucker

>>159260195
>It's a at least it's a break from mobage strategy discussion episode

>>159252440
The True Hero did nothing wrong, we've been over this.
What do you think he did wrong?

>>159260195
>>159260441
26 days.

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Threw 1 card in by itself to see if id get lucky. So wheres the bonus skill unlock place? Want to unlock her damage limit

>>159260195
what's the problem here? XIV's story has a lot more to discuss than most FFs

>>159261526
You unlock bonus skills by just using the card a bunch until it starts flashing in battle, or fusing an extranger if you have one.

Was i supposed to lose to the Leviathan?

>>159254219
she reminds me of Zargabath

>>159262079
You realize you could be talking about like 10 games with that, right? I need some specifics.

>>159263942
Lel, you're right, it is the same sad antelope look.

>>159263991
BE

>>159237952

Tabata says you'll fight her multiple times, so she is basically like the Turks. So maybe she'll be a guest.

And then peopke spend hours just fighting with her, Square knows this, so they put dialogue in that activates if you try to keep her for too long.

When are we getting the prizes for that Halloween click event in Ffrk? No matter what I google I cannot find anything about it. It's like they themselves deleted anything related to it

>>159265612
everyone will receive them by the end of the event, 11/6

>>159250980

twincest is best

>Blushing Quacho Queen
CUUUUUUTE

Anyway to cheese Pumpking pro? I have 2 Edgar, but my best mage is a ~300 mag Rydia, so that strat won't work. Do we have any benevolent whales?

>>159267086
we have at least 2 mage ramzas, maybe chaining ultima will do enough?

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>>159267061
She's best girl.

>>159267243
She's pretty cute. But I like Reynn more.

>>159267687
Is that the big titty onee-san?

>>159267687
God, I'm getting excited just waiting for all the Reynn art to come about.

>>159267786
>Onee-san by 10 minutes
Yes.

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>>159267802
I hope the artists like the game.

>>159268280
Still onee-san material.

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>>159268716
Fair enough

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>>159269028
FFFFFFFUCK

is that her bra line?

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>>159269094
No, it's just her blouse.

>>159269028
Even onee-sama material, one could say

WoFF has moments where it is very self aware that it's a game.

>finally replaced my last dud unit with a maxed 6 star Cecil
What a difference, rip Sabin.

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>>159269306
Looks like padded cups built into the blouse. Good for supporting A-B cups.

BE has been giving me really shitty luck with drops and steals today, it took me about 30 NRG to fucking get 13 seeds of life and now its taken me about 4 hours of time to just get 6 sacred crystals and I still need 2 more

>>159272108
just buy it with corn lmao

Ha ha! Time to marry Yuna!

>new menu music
woah momma

>>159267802
> "art"

I care only about the porn. E.g. just look how slutty short her skirt is. >>159271893

Haha! Time for no OSB while everyone else and their grandmama gets one!

>>159274306
i did four single pulls and no five star. killing myself.

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>>159274306
grandma reporting in

generic'd with a fucking tiger fang

i've been getting worse shit after g5 than before. getting pretty fucking tired of it

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>>159274731

>>159274731
>more jealous of wakka than tidus

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>>159274306
Don't worry senpai no luck here

>>159274731
You took my roll asshole

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>>159274306

>chaos rod
>paine's sword
>generic mage masher
Disappointed, but not unexpected.

>>159275252
>actual on-banner relic
>no luck

eat shit

>>159275384
Her sword and SB are pretty damn good.

>>159274902
>tiger fang

99 atk are you fucking kidding me

>>159275252
>>159275316
>>159274731
>>159274306
>Rolling in a game that might not matter to in a month
Lmao

>>159275438
I was responding to a post about getting tidus osb, which was my aim. Auron ssb is alright but I have the X realm protectga shared ssb already. I've been generic'd 3 times since G5, fuck off with your claims of luck

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>>159275902

>>159276040
>be me
Don't feel sorry for you one bit.

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>>159275902

>>159276107

gonna shove my tiger claw right up your ass you fucking ingrate

>riot blade from 11-draw
first unique i have from that realm now, so it is helpful for that

>>159276308

it's a good SB

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>>159276230
it'll go great with my variable steel

I wonder if I should roll my 23 tickets in BE tomorrow for Refia or wait until the 16-17th to do a 27 ticket pull for Refia?

If I pull early, I can have more time to grind her up and max her out alongside saving lapis on the dailies but if I pull later I'll get more chances to get her since the equivalent of 13 dailies means I will have rolled a total of 40 times with the tickets used.

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Oops

So what's up with this new Sharpshooter thing?

>>159277278
chain like your life depends on it

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>tfw a good banner finally appears
Can't wait for this Halloween bullshit to end. It's been around far too long.

how much time do I still have to farm candy?

>>159278136
6 hours

>>159277278
What's Bartz TM?

>>159250980
Jesus Christ, those hips

>>159267086
Any friend that can get you through pumpkin adv in 2-3 turna would do it but your edgars are rekt by a single charge so theres some rng. You need to full break him and hope it procs. The pro version is able to be atk and def down which will help in preventing edgars from getting one shot. If you can get that lucky full break then you can take him down. Bring para horns and survivor flasks, it can drag out.

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>>159279190

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>>159249530
>mfw I beat Pumking Reaper with 1 400atk Partner Lightning, WoL, Rydia, Lenna, Kain, and Vaan.

>when you just need one sacred crystal and it just won't drop
I thought I'd be done material grinding today around 4 jesus

>we get a version of Prelude that uses a church organ to go with the Wedding Dress Yuna event in RK
Ha, that's fucking great.

>>159249530
>Two Lightnings seemingly barely manage to clear
How?

>rank 89
>609 attack lightning
>last played 12d ago
Guy had too much money to waste, I guess.

>>159280874
>seemingly barely manage to clear
>3 turns
what?

Wait, why the hell doesn't Balthier get Sharpshooter?

>>159281035
>Both Lightnings are critically low on mana
>Three are dead (Granted, Delita and Exdeath both don't seem fully leveled, but still.)
There's no way that's only three turns.

>>159281035
You lie.

>>159281035
You get one free turn when it sets up the doom counter. So you get 4 turns in total to take down the Pumpking Reaper.

Though 2 Toblerones and a Chapter one Delita shouldn't have much problems against the Pumpking Reaper unless the team was totally underequipped and underleveled which is the case here.

Never go into events underleveled. Always try to max out the levels of your team beforehand.

Anyone know how much EXP is needed to level up to 80 from a 5 star?

in BE

>>159281597
Though now that I take another look at it, he could have taken Vaan or Exdeath out for a cheerbot given the composition of the team. Lenna or Sarah or Fina would have served the anon better here.

>>159281767
It depends on the character but usually around one million EXP should max out their levels.

>>159281767
https://exviuswiki.com/Main_Page

>>159280895
Beats the hell out of the very first three Lightning players I got who never logged back in after a month of playing. On top of never logging back in they were also too lazy to level or gear them.

>>159282017
I know the feeling. I got a poorly geared DW Chizuru friend who has been on there for 19 days and hasn't logged in, a WoL friend who does daily gifting but hasn't logged on for 7 days and 2 Toblerone friends who haven't been on for 3 days. I might delete them and add in others who at least are on daily so that I know they still have interest in the game.

>I can actually get back to clearing story shit tomorrow

The Halloween shit was nice for me as a new player getting all my niggas fully awakened but holy fuck candy corn farming was boring as shit

>>159284323
You know, there was nothing stopping you from just doing story stuff anyway.

>>159284391
I could only average around 500 candy corn per 13 stamina and I needed to get all that good shit senpai

>>159284562
>and I needed to get all that good shit
You didn't though.