/scg/edg/ Elite Citizen: Star Dangerous Episode #84

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Which Cry Astro is pirate friendly?

>>159197587
Neither, griefing sociopaths like you don't get to refuel or rearm.

>>159197770
I swear there was one. I just think the Com Array needs to be off for it though.

>>159197587
seems like all you have to do is shoot down the guards and you can land to refuel.

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Guys I think I'm in love

>>159198268
I don't have the horrible truth saved, someone link it.

who keeps downboating our thread??

>>159198268
What do you love about it?

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>>159198505
there are no boats here

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Why is the Rack the best ship? It can do medical, science, research, exploration, and just about everything else worth doing.

>>159202127
Yeah, its only bad point is that niggers keep calling it the Rack.

>>159202127
Caterpillar will be way better than that ship.

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>>159198268
>>159198481

>>159202127
and cargo hauling too! Plus, the Carrie reminds me of a few other scifi ships, so that's nice. And it looks sexy from more than one angle.

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Has there been any word on the lancer variants lately? I kinda wanna upgrade my base one, but I wanna see how the other turn out before picking.

Live damn you, LIVE!

>>159202127
nah it's still a very expensive .jpg

whatever keeps you going tho man, these are desperate times

>>159205096
No news regarding lancer variants. They didn't even include them in CitCon roadmap. ;_;

Is it illegal to eat aliens?

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>woke up 3am wide awake
>nothing to do til ATV and i dont work til evening
>SC isnt a game yet but I can't keep another game open for more than 5 minutes without realizing it's not finished-product SC
>might genuinely be upset if todays ATV isnt pretty good

who /vicious cycle of hype and suffering/ here

>>159206364
dur is 2.6 and has been done, mis and max are 3.0 i believe

>>159207868
Today's ATV is Austin so it will be nothing anyway

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>>159207946
>DUR just requires slapping external fuel tanks and chin boobs to the model, maybe retexture and adding a digit to the QT fuel value
>MAX requires a remodeling
>MIS requires a remodeling and figuring out how do make the missile loader work and animate

Goddamn it I just want to shoot missiles forever.

>>159208425
it's the only studio that has nothing to say about homestead demo,so they cant pull that shit week 4 in a row. they might actually have to inform us about the game this time

but mainly it's josh coonz with either finished herald stuff or cutlass rework stuff

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>tfw when /scg/edg/ dies twice in 5 hours

let it stay dead for a week or two

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>>159211018

let it die permanently t b h

just like space sims by the time ED and SC are through with them

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lads ever heard of best ship?

>>159212195
Yeah, it's called the Caterpillar.

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>>159212195
Sure, pic related

>>159212195
>$225 scam that you fell for: the ship

hope they rework it for you into something even remotely worth that.

>>159212542
Gold plated apology notes for taking all their money and driving jettisoning it into the sun?

>>159213990
No one cares about your fucking groups besides the people in them
Stop

guess who's dead

dead again

anyone else signed up for a tobii prototype?

>>159216142
Sounds like a fucking meme and a half, like that hand tracking thing

>>159205096
what the hell even is that DUR equivalent? I've never seen such a thing. what's in the back?

>>159216206
Maybe it's a pimped out living truck like

http://imgur.com/gallery/bSOKf

But for people studying boreal wildlife? idk

I wonder if DUR will end up being underrated/meta for exploration with how much people don't want to work together in multicrews like the Carrack.

So I've had a vulture for a little while and want to change it up a bit. Should I buy a type 6 or a diamond back, or should I save up and replace my vulture with something else?

I've flown nothing but fighters so far

I refuse to circlejerk to JPGs on a mongolia kite-flying forum, so I a playing Elite: Dangerous while waiting for Star Citizen to become worthy of purchase.

Working on my Elite rank in Combat, and even using an Engineered 600mil Cr Federal Corvette in a Compromised Navigation Beacon is going extremely slowly.
Something like 5% Deadly every 3 hours or so.

Is there a way to make this faster? I started playing Elite like a couple of months ago, so I have infinite resources, just limited time.

>>159219103
Never replace your Vulture-fu.

Truth is, every ship that you fly after the Vulture will be lacking in one way or another.

It's just that she's the perfect combination of seed, maneuverability, firepower, durability (shields at least) in a small hard to hit package.

The only way to move forward from a Vulture is to an FDL or Federal Corvette, but even with engineering you'd still miss one aspect of the Vulture that they don't have.

I always ignored area 18, but today I launched it and it gave me feels for some reason

Also

>read somewhere that sc runs better than low when you put it on medium setting
>try it
>it's actually true

What the fuck?

>>159219937
you can make the game run much better with ~config settings, graphics settings from options actually does nothing

problem is those ~config settings reset any time you hit a load screen or die

>>159219937
Happens with a lot of CPU heavy games

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>>159198268


Hulls are a HOT SHIT

>>159219937
I'm pulling this right out of my ass but in my experience all the graphics settings do is change LOD distance. so when you put it to low, all it does is make every texture a mess of gore and every ship a vague fridge shape until you get within 20m of it, which in dogfighting and walking around stations and ports, is fucking constantly, thus you get hammered with heavy loads over and over just from walking/flying around, whereas on high all that shit loads once and stays loaded, provided your machine can render it all.

>>159207868
>>159208425
>>159209015

Todays ATV is the team working on armor/weapons for 2.6 as well as C U T L A S S REWORKKKKKKK

>>159212542
>terrapin
>$225
Anon it wasn't even $200, factcheck yourself before your wreck yourself

>>159220453
>hey guys welcome to around the verse, today we've flown in 3 people from other studios to tell you guys about how the sand textures from the homestead demo at citizencon became so sandy
next up we have josh coonz for the long awaited cutlass. yes, the crashed cutlass from the citizencon homestead demo. hes gonna explain how it became so crashed.

>>159220131

Well, my user.cfg doesn't work in crusader at all except from allowing me to input console commands

Works fine in other modes though

>>159220319
They better keep that stairway entrance for C, D and E

>>159220131
Didn't regenerate one fps with with user config for me, sadly

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>>159220636
>next up we have josh coonz for the long awaited cutlass. yes, the crashed cutlass from the citizencon homestead demo. hes gonna explain how it became so crashed.
don't fuck with me that's an actual possibility and I would be beyond mad

>>159220901
Yeah sounds total like scam citizen

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>>159220636
>>159220901
This is the sneak shot we got this week of the Cutlass rework. Josh "Get all the poon" Coonz is hyped at (re)making the Cutlass and has made steady progress that we'll see later today.

Anyone want to take a shot at drawing the new cutlass flawplan/scale? This image is is from the right side of the cockpit looking towards the rear. It looks like the interior might be asymmetrical or the turret is asymmetrical on the outside.

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>>159221029
>flawplan
sounds about right

I'm not going to make any guessart, whenever I do I just end up disappointed when we get something different

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>>159221029
>flawplan
i see what you did there. i'll give it a shot though

thoughts, anons? or is that turret in the same place it used to be and it's just blocking the path to the hangar and that door "to the side" is just because they moved it while modeling?

>>159221510
why have two doors when you can have one door and shelves for the other?

>>159221678
Honestly I think there's only one door and the turret moves upwards out the way like it does on the current cutlass

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I don't know if I should get into this game

I like space engine, and the idea of having space engine with some actual stuff to do in it sounds awesome.

I'd probably chill and just transport some people do some mining or something while enjoying the scenery with some good music, that sounds pretty good.

Is there a monthly subscription for this game and should I get the season pass?

>>159222110
Oh and I'm talking about elite dangerous

>>159222110
He be warned who ye attempt to gaise upon the vision of BRABEN

>>159222313
>>159222260

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>>159222110
>I don't know if I should get into this game
You will know, once you buy it.

>>159221510
theyve only really mentioned it being resized to reduce visual clipping on characters in the cockpit hallway area, as well as the rear and ramp being designed around having a dragonfly and cargo in there

i wouldnt expect it to look exceedingly different on the outside aside from it being a little chunkier with sharper angles

>>159222110
>>159222260
Yes.

Season pass as well, but I would advise you to wait for Christmas sales.

The season pass added so much shit and the next update it's adding is one of the most awaited.

Think of Elite like a Star Citizen that's shipping shipping its parts gradually instead of in one big package.

The advantage to Star Citizen is that it's practically seamless, but at the same time debugging the entire thing as well as releasing it will take an insane amount of time.

In the end, around the time Star Citizen releases I expect Elite to have had all the big features of SC for like half a year.

But yeah Elite is good.
Hard, but good.

>>159222795
Thanks for responding.

Do you think there will be christmas sales on the season pass alone, or should I hold off buying the game as a whole, till Christmas?

Also, I just now read that they will also plan on adding interiors of spaceships/starports in the future, that sounds amazing.

>>159223843
The thing as a whole.

The base game is really not worth getting without the Season Pass, not even as a demo of the things to come.

There was a sale like 15 days ago.

Point is, the base game is only you sitting in a cockpit zipping around space.
Planets and moons were look but don't touch.

Then the season pass game and added planetary landing, mind you it's still on planets without atmospheres exclusively, because the atmospheric flight module is still being worked on, but it still made the space the game takes place in VERY real to me.

This season they added: Planetary landing, surface vehicles and outposts, ship tuning into a one-of-a-kind deal, space tourism and passenger charters, ship-launched fighters and hirable NPC crew.

The season only has 2 update left:
2.3 Commanders: adds character creation and avatar customization, limited ship interactivity, multi-crew with other players in the same shape

2.4: ???? They're keeping this one a surprise.

Planned upcoming seasons will add full ship interiours, space legs, atmospheric landing, alien life and even big-game hunting.

Planned features that still have no conrete season attached to them: Capital ship control basically ships that are a mile long with hundreds of crewmembers

On the wiki there is a full list of upcoming features, and I know it al sounds like a load of Sean Murray talk, I thought the same when they promised Multi-crewing in a game that didn't even have Squads at the time.
But it seems they were designing Elite from the start with those features, all ships from the release date had several empty seats, it's not something they are shoehorning into the game late in design.

All in all, at the end of its development cycle, Elite will be Star Citizen with seams.
Play that until Star Citizen is thoroughly debugged then see if the switch is worth it.

I know I prolly will for the comfy designs.

2.6 F U C K I N G W H E N

also please will my gtx 650 ti run this okish at 720p at least? or do i need to not eat for 2 months and get a 950/960

>>159224435
For "VR" closed area modes sure, no one can run the actual universe well though because the non existent netcode lowers your framerates
It's really not worth getting into atm

>>159224421
Sounds like it is already a cool game, and it will turn into the space game I would really want it to be.

I have also been following Star Citizen for a while, but I have the feeling they are too ambitious, they want to put in everything from the start, and that might end up just being too much.

I like the approach of Elite much more to just carefuly add stuff along the way.

Fuck, I want to get into the game right now, not wait for christmas

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>>159224818
aw ye son

this month i got enough mone for either bf1 or SC, and as you may have guessed since im here i'd rather get SC i know the universe is unplayable for now but just for star marine and shooting shit up in arena commander. by the time 3.0 hits i'll probably have a 950 anyway

the perks of living in eastern europe and being a neet on therapy

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>>159224435
>2.6 F U C K I N G W H E N
50% end of this week.
80% end of next week
100% at universary sale

>>159225232
>50% end of this week.

Hahahahaha.

>>159225232
weeks not months

>>159225147
Not the previous anon but if you have the money to spend go for it.
I got visioned and paid full price for everything, not really regretting.

>>159225147

Star Citizen goes for a top down approach, but my confidence in Chris Roberts is about on par as my confidence in David Braben.

It's very ambitious sure, but it's also very heavily funded, and has a longass development cycle.
The hardware requirements might be unreasonable NOW, but by the time it releases it will be trivial.

Elite: Dangerous is built bottom-up which should make it more stable, more easily debugged and more enjoyable to follow. But you will always be able to tell "ah this is 2.2 content", "this is where it gets to 3.1 territory" etc as you play, the seams are obvious.

I really enjoy Elite though, and I am already working up to Triple Elite ranking in Trading Combat and Exploration.
Trading is done, Combat I am at the last rank and Exploration is a matter of time.

I bought it full price like >>159225482 but I don't regret it one bit.

However I do understand that like all space games, it's not for everyone. So better safe then sorry.
Or it's just 30 quid who cares

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>fall for the star citizen meme
>install
>start
>motionblur out your ass to the point you cant even control the mouse
>bloom up to 9000 cant see anything
>try running around interacting with stuff
>nothing works
>call ship
>try to enter ship but it clitches out explode and I float away into the dark
>decide I've had enough of this and exit

>game crashes on exit freezing my computer


amazing

It's hard to believe this game has been in development since 2012, but it sure has come a long way. It is worth every cent of the 140 Million dollars raised so far.

>>159226132
>>try to enter ship but it clitches out explode and I float away into the dark
That would have made for a cool gif

>>159225753
Also am I right to understand I will need a new season pass for each season, but not for season 1?

>>159224435
1080s are cheaper than 980tis right now lol

i was running it the same on my 770 that i do now on my 980ti. but if youre serious about PC gaming in the next year or so you're gonna wanna upgrade soon

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>tfw 5k away from the bubble
>cripplingly lonely, feeling boredom set in
how do people explore such long distances? i feel like it's gonna be a struggle making it to the core without giving up half way

>>159226132
>motionblur out your ass to the point you cant even control the mouse
That doesn't make any sense

>>159226639
>How

Quite literally they only pay 1/4 attention to the game. And instead they have a movie on a second monitor or something. Quality gameplay, huh?

>>159226639
Can't you set it on autopilot and do something else?

>>159226371
Season 1 is the base game.
They added Wings, Programmable Limpit Drones, Resource Extraction sites, NPC Capital Ships, real time Political Power simulation etc etc in the first season that is the base game.

Season 2 is the only one available for purchase right now, and the content it has will still be released in first half of 2017.

No idea when Season 3 is releasing or when it will be available for pre-order.

>>159226639
I am still a noob Pathfinder but I got a couple of questions about exploring:
What are you flying? I am thinking of taking an Anaconda for such trips, with a couple of Field Maintenance Units, a couple of SRVs and a Ship-launched fighter.

With the Neutron boost and the engineered 50 LY range it should be a cakewalk to get to the core, with plenty of distractions using the SRV and SLF.

Also, why go there? I just want to get Elite rank in Exploration, don't care for anything else, can't I just roam the starts around the bubble in e helix pattern until I get the 150mil Creds needed? What advantage does the Core/Colonia/Beagle Point offer me?

>>159226698
But it's right. This game has so much motion blur it makes it feel like 20ms mouse smoothing. Total disaster.

>>159226830
>Auto pilot

No. No such thing. Have to "fly your ship" in a straight line, can't be auto pilot. Goddamn CMDR o7

>>159226132
>in development since 2012
>game is bad because I can't figure out how to change graphics settings

dank memes dood

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>>159226282
here's my similar experience

>>159226830
Not for jumping no, you need to scoop fuel off the stars to be able to keep going, but what do I know.

I have 500 hours in and I never left the bubble.
Human civilisation stretches across 400 or so LYs that people call "The Bubble", but the galaxy is based on our own, so it stretches about 100,000LYs across. It's pretty fucking big, and pretty fucking empty.

And I am not the slightest bit jealous of all those explorer space nerds uncovering proof of intelligent life existing as they explore, not one bit.
ok maybe just a bit

>>159226990
> that filename

Beautiful.
Please tell me you have more.

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>>159227214
more humorous failure webms? a few. the sarcastic clap emotes are probably in my top five favorite things the game has right now.

Is the netcode fix supposed to be in 2.6 or will it be broken until 3.0?

>>159227359
broken til 3.0, 2.6 will add SM so we can at least FPS in relative stability because the maps will be small enough that the netcode issues won't be relevant.

>>159227436
We actually found out last rtv that they're aiming for a "light" netcode release in 2.6

>>159226987
Do you retards ever not respond to obvious bait?

>>159227353
jesus how do you fuck up hitting spacebar that badly

>>159227656
>obvious bait
Yeah it's impossible to have lag, blurred lighting, bugged ship spawning and strange death bugs in 2.5 right? Yeah obviously he's just a goon baitposter!

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>>159227353
>>159226990

>the emotes
I'm fucking dead

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>>159222795
> In the end, around the time Star Citizen releases I expect Elite to have had all the big features of SC for like half a year.
I don't disagree with you but even with EVA, Elite is unlikely to suddenly develop FPS (including onboard) without planning it from the start.
Also it will forever be compelled to -THE VISION-, I mean the procedural generation of game contents. SC have as "big feature" to handcraft a lot of stuff (only using proc gen as a tool)

No statement that any will be better than the other, but those are different feature, not equivalent.

>>159227610
yeah, optimizing the netcode for the current 24 man limit isnt hard, the 3.0 part is mainly for replacing that entirely with something that isnt designed to be used for at the most 12v12 FPS servers on a small map. they can probably keep the current netcode for AC .

really a miracle that the PU can run at all with more than 1 ship in an area

159227762
>That image
>ITS BEEN IN DEVELOPMENT SINCE X YEAR AND ONLY THIS GUYS

bait

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>>159227885
>Elite is unlikely to suddenly develop FPS (including onboard) without planning it from the start.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EM0Gcl7iUM8&t=233
...Anon, it is planned from the start.

There are even videos of the development that date back to 2012 showing the animations to be used for it.
Heck Braben talks of boarding hostile ships and pirating them etc.

Plus like I mentioned Elite is even planned to have Big-game hunting, so FPS is in the works regardless.

Elite will be equivalent to Star Citizen with a different focus. And more showing seams around each module.

>>159227353
>engine explodes off
>thruster still ignites and works

Just like my second favorite game, line of defense

>>159226849
>What are you flying? I am thinking of taking an Anaconda for such trips
i'm flying an asp, i can't bring myself to explore in the anaconda because of it's slower turning speeds, especially in supercruise

it feels way too bulky, especially when sightseeing when compared to the asp, though that does have a shorter jump distance
>Also, why go there?
idk, i suppose you could run laps around the bubble, but i feel like that would be even more boring than exploring already is
the core's just an arbitrary goal for me, i'll reach elite before reaching the core, but once i'm this far out i might as well go see it for myself and then head back

How come the streamers have every ship available?

Did they really spend $20k on meme citizen or what is going on here.

With Star Citizen making it's own Discord clone should CIG allow the user to change his handle unlimited times for free like Discord?

>>159221029
So I see the turret gunners chair pod, what else am I looking at?

>>159228761
>even more boring than exploring already is
A star looks the same anywhere, and I kidna don't feel like risking all the data every jump. Might as well head to the nearest outpost every 200 jumps or so.

>i'll reach elite before reaching the core
Wait is on trip to the Core enough to reach Elite? I thought you needed like 150million CR worth of exploration data to be Elite?

>>159228901
I haven't seen any of the popular streamers with all the ships.

>>159228914
Because your username is obviously tied to the game, I doubt they will do this, or should. Maybe it would affect gameplay like bounty hunting negatively.

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>>159227779
millions of dollars well wasted imo

itt rp
sad

http://archive.is/ldOSQ

>>159229328
Is he sitting upside down? space has no gravity, why the hell would you want to moon the entire world as well as risk your squishy behind to cover what can be somre ptyyu valuable vision?

>>159229120
nah, one trip isn't enough i don't think, i've done several medium/long length trips before, just none to the core itself

People with Full Hotas, and Dual Joysticks. What do you prefer? I'm still using Keyboard and Mouse atm.

>>159229506
that would make sense AND be cool but no, the turrets are completely retarded. you can't even look straight down, so you've just got this 40 degree disk under the ship of what you can shoot at. turrets badly need a rework in general.

>>159228292
>Spacelegs
>big game hunting with ships/scarab, thinking it'll be FPS
Anon, I...

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>>159228292
I don't disagree with that, I read the rest of your post, I'm just saying that those seams would make it fundamentally different. No matter how the Dev formulate it I don't see what we know of Elite Dangerous suddenly pulling you moving into your ship and jumping into the rover.

SC have to rework their ship despite a top-down approach, Elite working from the Bottom up would have to modify all assets that weren't compatible with the feature. (hence seam between exiting/entering vehicle)
That's certainly the reason they were limited to proc gen in the first place. You can hardly update hundred handcrafted base, but you can upgrade a base and regenerate it 1000 times.

I wish everything that is good for Elite Dangerous, I certainly hope their Big Game hunting won't look like a common day in NMS.

>>159228292
>Elite will be equivalent to Star Citizen with a different focus.

And there is a big difference. Elite actually works.

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>>159229420
DS has lost his mind if he thinks he's ever finishing his game. why would ANYONE listen to this man?

So is elite dangerous a good comfy game, like can I just chill and do relaxt missions if I want to without the fear of being ganked and fucked over by higher level players all the time?

I quite like the sound of a comfy space game that lets me develop my character, and the scenery in this game looks beautiful

>>159229957
That's not the point. Chris Roberts has shown you don't need to finish anything to earn 150 million dollars. All you need as a big dream to sell to the fools and a fancy marketing team.

>>159228901
There was a week after citcon where backers got all ships, might be that

>>159229771
Sure Anon, Elite will never be Star Citizen, and SC will never be Elite.

I am certain I will enjoy both games (once SC hits a playable state), and will be buying a VR set as well as a good HOTAS eventually.

Until SC arrives, I will keep playing Elite:Dangerous despite my 400 hours or so, there are many things I want to try out that I haven't yet, and I have a feeling it will tide me over for a very long time.

At least long enough for Star Citizen to release, be patched and debugged and stabilised into a playable state.

>>159229920
Star Citizen will too eventually, the entire thing is being worked on, don't forget that.

Elite can't ever go back to do backline and drastic engine/netcode changes, Star Citizen still has that luxury.

I've played only Elite, but I love both games and I think they're both awesome in what's common as well as what's different.

>>159230124
Yes.
But if you don't play in Open just kill yourself.

>>159229506
being upside down in atmospheric flight and on gravity landing pads would get uncomfortable

>>159230618
What is the open?

>>159230156
i think derek is well past the point of ever making a game with his name on it ever again

he'd have to stealth-produce that shit and hope nobody leaks the fact that the project was headed by such a sore loser

>>159230649
There's three modes: Solo, Private and Open. Solo is... solo. Private is a private 'server' with you and anyone you let in and Open is with everyone else who's playing in Open.

>>159230156
also he's literally broke and probably shitposting twitter from the public library. he spent all his money to produce a f2p game with a peak player count of 3 people per month

>>159216206
>>159216321
It's a Mercedes Zetros Ruggedized RV

http://expeditionmotorhome.com/luxurious-6x6-beast-from-stuttgart/

>>159230791
So if I play open, are there still zones that are relatively safe? Because there are npc's hanging around like in EVE?

Or is everywhere open hunting?

What would you recommend for a new player?

>>159230124
Yes you can.
The game has three modes:
Open Play: Everyone who select this mode can be matched together, most MMO-ish of the
three.

Group Play: Only people who join the same group can be matched together, great for co)op with your friends, the Galay will contain only you and your friends. Anyone else is an NPC.

Solo Mode: You are the only human player in the galaxy, everyone around you are NPCs. Most single-playerish of the three modes.


Note that you need to be online for all three modes, also playing in Open can be risky if you got to player hotspots.
Most Players you meet won't even acknowledge your existence, but the few griefers you meet can undo 3 hours of progress in 5 seconds. So keep your wits about you.

Also as Murray once said: The galaxy is a huge place. Don't be surprised if you meet no one despite being on Open all day.

>>159230891
Everywhere is basically open hunting.

Law enforcement is laughable in this game, and on top of that there are nullsec systems like EVE where there is no law enforcement at all and all actions are legal.

Gotta fend for yourself.

>>159230891
A lot areas are safe areas because the world is too big and there's almost nobody playing in Open.
Systems with an authority (not anarchy) systems have 'police' that responds to crimes.

The only places where you might actively see other players are the PowerPlay (pointless faction thing) conflict areas OR the community goals.

There might be someone hunting newbs every now and then, but you can almost always avoid them as well.

Play Open and be a pussy.

>>159231118
Why am I a pussy if I would play open?

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>>159230156
150 mill for the engine they have augmented and produced. the books worth of lore. the fun i'v had with the alpha. the precedents of ships not just being empty geometry. plus if it all goes shit end up i'm sure CR while release what has been worked on just like SWG did and people will finish it. hell with what they have now they could make the best damn SWG II ever. so i'm happy with where production is. anyone that's not is impatient or ignorant. and then you have those that just want to play COD and fuck with us. last night me and my wife curled up and listened the the lore on the leir system. and we have like 30 other systems to listen to.

>>159231168
I fucked up cause I was ramping up a decent rant speed cause Solo and Private ruined the game.
The developers aren't paying attention to player-to-player interactions cause they are so rare anyway.

Don't be a pussy, play in open*

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>Tfw Frontier pissed me off so much that I'm trying not to shit down the throat of ED in these discussions

How much farther along would we be if Christ decided to go with Unreal Engine 4 instead of Cry Engine?

>>159231404
0

>>159231404
UE4 wasn't out at the time, it was officially out in 2014. Dunno if Epic would have let people use it earlier.

>>159231404
Probably not much further due to Chris' perfectionist attitude towards everything

>>159231168
>>159231301
Ignore this Anon.

Play in Solo until you learn at least how to run away from encounters that you never asked for.

playing Open is basically turning your PvP flag on.
Also, there are no in-game interactions with other pilots at the moment, it's always more profitable to go on doing your thing alone, there is no way to share missions or their reward, there is no way to work toward a common goal with another player. There is noway to hire someone, there is not way to directly trade with someone.

When you meet another player there are currently three interaction possible:

Hail them on chat, that's not a gameplay interaction but a chatroom one.

Give them fuel, which is DIRT CHEAP to the point that you can cross the entire bubble using the starter money as fuel money and still have over half left over;

Third, you can shoot them in the face and ruin their progression. Better yet if you are in a starter ship or a defenseless trader and they are in a combat ship.

Play Solo, ignore the salt mines on 4chan.
Until Fdev adds more meaningful online interaction with players, it's not worth it.

>>159231448
ue4 is built to look good more then be functional.

>>159231548
epic would not have let UE4 be used by CIG for a risky croudfunding project.

they got cry engine because the engine is dead and making them no money. they have some of cryteks main dudes working to bring cryengine back into importance via star citizen

any other engine and we'd be expecting a shitty release under a major publisher

>>159231691
Plus they wouldn't have gotten the oppertunity to get half+ of the original staff who made the engine. Since CryEngine haven't paid their staff in 4+ months we might get the rest of them too, just imagine what magic the frankfurt wizards can do if they had twice as many CryEngine wizards.

>>159232029
>For a risky crowd funding project

I don't think Epic gives a shit about whether you're crowd funding or not. Considering that ARK is using it, Psychonauts 2, Squad, We Happy Few, which are either crowd funded or early access.

>>159231681
This indeed sounds like there aren't many benefits to playing in open.

Thanks for sharing your thoughts

>>159232029
>epic would not have let UE4 be used by CIG for a risky croudfunding project.
lmao take a look at the list of games using UE4 more than half of them are "risky croudfunding projects" you fucking retard

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>CoD IW is out on consoles, people are streaming it
>campaign is the same shit everyone saw before
>the skybox jpeg looks horrible

Gee, can't wait to see how the spess fight and mission system looks like. Some people after all called it a direct competitor to SQ42 after all.

>>159232921
>Tfw Freelancer was a direct competitor to COD 1

>>159232801
OK, given that list, Squad is the only one that is even close to approaching AAA game status

either way, they got crytek because pretty much all of crytek was sitting on their hands waiting on someone to come make them relevant again, ez filled seats for CIG dev team

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>>159232921
>>boosted fall going around 1500 FtPS
land with out liquefying. MFW.
>>all the actions are on rails and snap to objects.
game looks like the last COD. little prettier.

>>159233334
No, they got the CryEngine because UE4 wasn't available.

>>159231403
>all the E:D shitposting actually comes from E:D veterans, rather than SC fanboys

>>159233640
Keep it that way

>>159233334
Squad has less than 30 employees and could be considered a high budget indy title.

>>159232078
>Since CryEngine haven't paid their staff in 4+ months we might get the rest of them too, just imagine what magic the frankfurt wizards can do if they had twice as many CryEngine wizards.
First thing that come to my mind is that they would essentially own CryEngine, at least up to where lawyer disagree and show the IP paper.

But considering what I now read about Crytek, I wonder if they would sell the engine if they went bankrupt
http://www.citizenstarnews.com/news/crytek-scare-rumors-about-makers-star-citizens-engine

>>159232921
How much do the COD even improve their engine ?
From what the wiki tell me
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IW_engine
They only improved the visual. Are they using a distinct physic engine or something ?

>>159234820
>How much do the COD even improve their engine ?
>From what the wiki tell me
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IW_engine
>They only improved the visual. Are they using a distinct physic engine or something ?
What the fuck are you even asking?

>>159234930
Pretty sure anon is asking
>How much do the COD even improve their engine You absolute autist.

>>159234930
nevermind, I just saw
> PhysX support for Windows version
Plus other stuff, so they do improve the physic aspect. I was wondering if they could ever pull of something that isn't shaped like any other Call of Duty.

>>159235194
Why are you pretending to be someone else when you're still writing like a retard?

>>159229630
Hotas with a throttle that has a thumbstick like the CH or new thrustmaster.

>>159235278
Not with yearly releases

>>159235294
>oh shit someone else is calling me a autist! better call them a retard and claim their samefagging on an anonymous image board!

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I'm doubting a bit whether I should purchase elite dangerous, the last space sim I bought was a hunk of shit (X3 Rebirth).

>>159236298
X3's interface is fucking retarded

>>159236298
If you can spare to buy the base game and Horizons you should.

>>159236298
It's X: Rebirth, not X3: Rebirth, and it was guaranteed to be shit because the devs pretty much just added to the same game for the last 10 years, with Terran Conflict and Albion Prelude being just mod collections. They just didn't know how to make a game at all.

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>>159236416
But doesnt Elite only got about 5-6 hours of gametime until you are sick of doing the same thing over and over again?

Is there even a point of flying in Elite to get better at flying in SC?

>>159236651
>Until you get sick

If you're a normal person, yes. Though 5-6 hours is still the honey moon phase of the game.

>>159226990
>near a small fighter ship
>fps almost kills computer

*slow clap* is this the power of SC?

Press R3 to launch!

>>159236614
>>159236375
I got sucked into the hype from pretty trailers and all the cool possibilities they promised, and I pre-ordered the game for 60 euro.

It was one of the dumbest purchases I ever made. But I learned from it. Hey I'm a sucker for sci-fi stuff and I thought it would be good.

>>159237845
And the best yet: they originally intended Rebirth to be a dumbed down xbox game

>>159238040
Assholes

>>159237795
>COD literally has on-rails flying druing 80% of the flying missions

HOLY SHIT LMAO

>>159236893
For me it was "why the fuck did I buy this", ED was my first Space game.

ten hours in I was hooked, now 300 hours and going steady.

CoD will surely kill both Star Citizen and Elite Dangerous

Look at the sheer scale of those spaceship and the intensity of the gameplay
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-hpup7LoWsc

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>>159238560
>quiet
>too quiet

>>159238560
atleast the machine gun sound is much better than in sc

>pew pew

How is the music in elite dangerous?

Music is very important for me

>>159238523
You're probably on the spectrum then.

>>159238934
It's decent space music.
If you don't like a certain part of it, say station music, you can specifically turn those off.

Fuck it, I'm going and buying the game

Here's hoping it will be the first space sim that hooks me, unlike EVE and X Rebirth

>>159238560
what the shitting dick is that flight model?

i'm not easily made motion sick but god damn a couple minutes of that and i'd be done

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ATV today?

>>159239863
soon, usually out on RSI site inside 2 hrs from now

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Honestly I didn't think rebirth was that terrible. Though that might just be because I played after all the patches and only payed 6 bucks for it.

>>159239863
>tfw you forget today is CUTLASS REWOOORKKK DAYYYY

OHHH YEEE

>>159239793
baby's first spaceship game. Trying to skip years and years of space simulator and scram it into something you can control with a gamepad and ADD.

>>159238873
Fair, but there was developers video about SC working hard on debris impact, dynamic music change and else. My bet is that all sound are placeholder from years ago.

>>159212414
mah man

Any news on 2.6?

I don't even bother with ATV or anything anymore, Chris lies too much on dates.

>>159240354
No. You'll know when it's out.

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Nice to see everything is exactly the same as it was here in september. How's life going for you boyos?

>>159240354
It's on internal testing across multible studios, so they're doing online multiplayer seasons with their internal QA teams. Evocati is next, then PTU, then live.

>>159240568
So absolutely fuck all then, cool.

See you guys in the new year

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>>159240543
Hi Idrisposter, how are you doing?

-PolarisPoster aka white

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>>159240763
Been better desu. I am happy to see the polaris finally get shown off, looks pretty nice I think but I'll stick to my idris haha.

>>159232452
For the most part the people that'll call you a pussy for not playing in open are the same people roaming around in tooled-up death machines looking to seal club defenseless newbies. There are some exceptions to the rule, but not enough to matter.

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>>159240931
Polaris is faster and thus better

>>159241193
>>159240931
https://robertsspaceindustries.com/comm-link/transmission/Capital-ship-owners-to-lose-investment

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>>159241193

Fair point, I was mainly looking for a battleship style ship, though the Jav looks better than it did before so I might go for that.

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>>159241247
>https://robertsspaceindustries.com/comm-link/transmission/Capital-ship-owners-to-lose-investment

Nigga this ain't even an article

atv when? need that cutlass, fucking christ

>>159231206
Gotta agree with you. Even if they only make it to 3.0, this alpha will already keep me returning to it. Very few games manage that.

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>>159241247

>>159241313
The Jav is a proper broadsight bumfucker Capship, but the Polaris will be great for harassment

So I bought the game (ED), it's downloading now.

Any last minute tips for a noob?

>>159242307
Play the tutorials.
Have a quick look at https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showthread.php?t=34437&p=664610&viewfull=1#post664610
or some other guide on how to get started.

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>>159242227
I bet a jav and two polaris's would make a good team if'ya know what I mean

>>159242307
Yeah, get a refund.

>>159212542
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X_UfHW-xgMg
what scam..

>>159242427
That looks ugly as shit

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>>159242538
>>159242427
It's not sexy like the Polaris bridge.

>>159242403
Thanks

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>>159241193
My Polaris is fast and strong and can beat or run from anything and so I'll win all the time!
I love Star Citizen!

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>>159242501
wew its not even out yet, try harder.

>>159242307
>I bought the game (ED)
Big mistake.

>>159234820
Man hopefully EA doesn't buy Crytek

>>159242969
I doubt it

>>159242823
as it stands on paper right now, terapin owners literally paid constellation prices for an extremely specialized ship that may or may not even be better than ships half the price at that job

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>>159243094

Yeah but seriously, trusting the ship stats page and such is silly, there is a disclaimer at the bottom of each one saying the ship will probably change.

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>>159242705
Except for Retaliators, Gladiators, and any bombers.

But you'd know that if you weren't a fucking mouthpiece

>>159242970
nah. no reason to unless people somehow wise up in the next couple years and stop paying money for their hot garbage. they won't need to actually improve gameplay for their major IPs for a while. from the infinite warfare gameplay posted earlier in the thread i'd say call of duty fans would suck the next one up off the floor if it looked worse, because it's COD and everyone on xbone has it

>>159243094
>Terrapin ends up underperforming for it's cost
>They tweak the numbers for armor and/or "scanning shit"
>No longer underperforming

It's not real it's a game

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>>159243638
Statfags will judge by stats and not by intended role, you can't stop them

>>159243271
it's still a slow tanky ship

unless they make it some kind of insane scanning powerhouse with ewar utility in such a small package, and ofcourse if thats even important, the price is crazy

i mean the concept right now is literally a bad herald that costs twice as much and does less. unless it's scanner is some insane shit that rivals much bigger ships i see zero value in it

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Xy5pz7V7rI

Its here boyos

>>159243802
>unless it's scanner is some insane shit

Yeah, that's why it's so expensive and has a swivel seat battlestation taking up the middle of the ship.
Not that I'd pay to be a radar unit.

>>159244593
>>159244593
lots of 2.6 updates

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>when you watch AtV and have to skip past Sandi

>>159244593
dat beard on Jake Ross

>>159245217
She literally talks for less than 30 seconds in the intro

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>>159212414
Torpedo broadside comin' through!

>>159245364
Should be 30 seconds less

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pew pew

>>159244593
wasted time

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wtf dude

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>>159244593
>no ship shape for 5 weeks

oh. t-thanks austin studio.

cutlassfags blown the fuck out.

They managed it, another week of its fucking nothing.

>>159247059
Need something to put in Jump Point. I liked the episode though.

>>159247059
Based Coon is working on it, no worries.

>>159247145
i think theyre trying to keep josh coonz off camera nowadays, he's not a video guy.

I still expected some kind of ship update for the first time in 4-5 weeks

>>159244593
I fucking hate that stupid bridge. Why is it not directly connected to the main body? What purpose does the space beneath the bridge hold? Fuck this stupid design.

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>>159247351
Aren't they doing a massive ship update during the livestream this month? Probably saving material for that.

they're saving up for the anniversary
right?

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>>159247696

Anyone know when that is supposed to be by any chance?

>>159247779
18th of this month

>>159247539
bet your ass it detaches

>>159247805
>tfw the day of my next paycheck

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>>159247906

Alright look here, that is a very silly idea and I don't want to hear it anymore. We all know that sort of thing is too gimmicky for the tried and true Aegis ships.

>>159247539
Why is the bridge of a carrier ship raised?

>>159247932
Buy a prowler

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>>159247145
>Star marine stuff that we had 2 years ago but then threw away and started over and still wont talk about.
At this point every word they say about star marine should have a release date and an apology for the years and money wasted in mismanagement. Star Marine hype was brutally murdered more than a year ago, just give it to me and no you do not get a high five for it now.
>AC Balance and MUH EBOCATIONS
Again nothing new here, missile persistance had better mean they fucking actually fixed missiles and made them both accurate and lethal. If they removed reloads while also leaving them shit then they just made like a half dozen ships completely irrelevant until 3.0.
>More actors in grey suits doing menial labor.
No one gives ashit about your mocap studio anymore, where is SQ42, is it going to release before christmas, if not, fuck you.
>Netcode shit.
Tell us again how you are going to fix the netcode, we have never talked about this before.

>saving for JP
Fuck that noise, are thery saving the whole fucking game for JP? the juicy bits should be what in atv, and put the dry shit in JP, in text form where is easier to make sense of.
I do not want to watch a ten minute video segment about netcode debugging.
The whole paywalled information is literally the most cancerous thing about star citizen. It is thus far the only thing they do that I actually object to seriously. I should not have to pirate information about a game I payed to create.

>>159247195
Its not about if its good or bad, its about where the actual fuck it is. There was no mention of a 2.6 release. No mention of 3.0 at all except for mocap being done and why the fuck do you need mocap for a fucking sandbox release.

I want something, anything at all, to convince me that they have fucking accomplished something in the last 6 months. As it stands it seems like they built a bloody demo and then sucked each other off about how cool it was.

Open development my ass.

>>159247675
Massive ships SALE, during the livestream for sure.

Cus thats the only time they fucking part with anything meaningful in terms of art assets or content, when there is money associated. It's fucking disgusting how predictable it has become.

>>159248274
>Netcode shit.
>Tell us again how you are going to fix the netcode, we have never talked about this before.

Oh my little anon how new can you be?

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>>159248274
>where is SQ42, is it going to release before christmas

>>159248274
>Its not about if its good or bad, its about where the actual fuck it is

It's WIP, duh. I don't see the big deal here.

>>159248241
That's a shitty comparison and you know it. The deck will never be visible no matter how much you raise the bridge.

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>>159248274
>Star marine stuff

wew lad you must be new

>>159248672
>tfw it's always ring irons instead of glorious ak style

Visual noise go home

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>>159248432
This new.
/sarcasm/
as in, We have fucking beaten the netcode topic to death then pulverized the corpse and made tendies out of it.

>>159248505
Then let us see.
The fucking progress.
For fucks sake.

And if that shit is behind a paywall in JP i will chimp the fuck out. It is such bullshit that relevant information gets held back like that.

>>159248806
>Then let us see.
>The fucking progress.
>For fucks sake.

You're an impatient little bitch, aren't you?

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>>159248806
It's being held back for the live stream

Also who is the blonde

>>159248534
But you have visibility of what's infront of the ship.
To see where those guns are aiming.
To see what's actually ahead of the ship.

It's quite tall so it would either have to be raised or located somewhere in the front middle like the polaris.

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>>159248806

Dude you really are new if you think the people that pay for JP don't repost that on reddit.

Go home goon, you're lost.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RBsRUvuvTf8

Jesus fuck

twitch /hermeneze

Get in here

>>159249189
No.

>>159249168
Why?

>>159249429
Autism.

>>159248894
theyve been talking about but not showing the cutlass rework for literally a year.

If you think demanding a thing you were promised(transparency) is impatience then you are a fucking bootlicker.

I am salty because CiG has transformed from a well funded indie into the standard opaque unaccountable developer concerned only with income. They only show anything off when it has a price tag attached, they engage in duplicitous business practice to skim sales without delivering on previous promises. In particular the "flash sale" they did with the polaris jumps to mind, they put it up for sale early and diodnt annouce delays until people were literally in the room waiting to see stuff revealed so that the delays would not effect sales, that is dishonest.

We signed up to see half built ships, broken builds, concept art, WIP and all manner of other Pre-Alpha and Alpha content, and we are not getting that. They cherry pick some people to see a little more then put them under fucking NDA to not disclose what they see to the fucking people who paid for the development.

>>159249345
Some guy is flying around Terra Prime using assets from the patch.

>>159249483
But what does it do?

>>159248806
>It is such bullshit that relevant information gets held back like that.
the JPs are literally a fucking URL because they know people will repost that shit all over the Internet since day 1

>>159249483
It's actually a great idea it reminds me of the Helo flight sims I"ve seen the military use just on a smaller scale.

>>159248984
I object to the obstacle, I payed for the development, for Open Development. Then they have the gall to demand extra money for access to some of that information.

>>159249559
>I am salty

Is all I got out of your bitching. They started cutlass rework last month around Citcon, they will show the results as it is closer to completion, that's all there is to it. Stop being a massive faggot about it. Or stay salty, whatever works for you.

>>159249559
if youre actually complaining about the cutlass, know that it didnt start it's rework until after the herald was finished by the guy doing that. so less than 3 weeks

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>>159250089
>>159252937
It would be nice to have seen something regarding the cutlass. I would've settled for some grey box just to get an idea of the new size and interior. It's been a hot topic for a long time now.

I'm not OP

>>159253574
if there is nothing during the anniversary then it might actually be a problem
or not, seeing as that's how things go here
t. some guy whose first ship was a 300i

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Is there any particular reason why every cry engine game runs like complete ass?

>>159253574
i expected to at least hear the words "cutlass, progress, rework" today at the studio it's been happening at for several weeks now.

i honestly don't think it's a big enough deal to "Save it" for the stream presentation and waste time there, but CIG is really bad at knowing what to show and when

there being zero real information since the week before citcon has me worried but at the same time hopeful about some juicy stuff at the stream

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>>159253867
>>159254515
If they don't have the SQ42 demo running by anniversary stream, will be the real problem

>>159254515
Judging by the progress between the Herald/Cat ship shapes It seems like CIG is wanting to do a shipshape like the latest Herald/Cat shipshape videos rather than basic greybox videos like the first Cat shipshape

I wonder what ships we'll see at the stream

>>159254021
Unoptimized alpha + network code is legacy shit right now. Should be better with 3.0

>>159256268

3rd Most requested career.

>>159256329

I did not know that there were THAT many German Citizens.

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>>159256329

>>159256329
might as well as hire the devs for Viscera

>>159256268
That is one ripped janitor.

>>159256468
>>159256556
>>159257324
Ships'll get dirty over time, you either clean them yourself or hire a jannni to to it.

Here's the design doc https://tgstation13.org/wiki/Janitor

>>159259397
they've really done a lot with the crysis engine.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RBsRUvuvTf8

if you were wondering what a forumdad looks like.

>>159262274
is that the guy with the shitty cosplay armor from citizencon?

>>159262446
Captain Concern, yes.

>>159262274
all the cool and useful shit he could've made with that engineering degree and he makes a space chair

>>159263036
>>159262446
Debbie downer's who hate hobby projects

Totally forgot about AtV. Is it fucking nothing?

>>159264479
There's some 2.6 info and janitor animation. It's pretty cool.

>>159264740
Also ai scheduling info

When is the next diverse the verse podcast?

>>159265570
Sounds cancerous as fuck.

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>>159263228
your motorcycle protective gear and red tinted goggles was a piss poor hobby project, m8.

here is the latest diverse the verse
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=31Z8byoSCjQ

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>>159266167
>batgirl
>man's voice
Lol.

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>>159266167
>diverse the verse
5 white women maybe more of them are trannies, I don't know
1 white tranny
1 asian woman

Opening statement, "hey, we wanted to make a female podcast"
DIVERSE!

>>159266587
>bat thing
ftfy.

>>159266615
>actually giving that tripe a view.
The fuck is wrong with you.

>>159266587
>>159266615
>he doesnt want qt3.14 gurls in the verse
kys

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>>159266824
>qt3.14 gurls
>a tranny
Nice post dude.

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>>159256268

Its gettin too real

>>159266824
>he doesn't understand the definition of diverse
I'm all for anyone interested playing Star Citizen, but I long for a future where diverse is more than a SJW buzzword.

>>159266796
sometimes you just gotta look. I only watched the first two minutes.

>>159262274
>>159263036
Reminder: as long as he's not attempting to have shitty changes made to the game, he's not a bad dude. The forumdads are the people that have ruined ED/want to ruin SC.

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>>159266587
Batzir?

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>>159242823 >>159243638
> Terrapin
> Good ship

Errr, myself I got it pegged as that one turtle you need to escort in SQ42 campaign.
I'm afraid to discover that it's actually the one and only reason to have this ship with no cargo, no switchable scanner and a single weapon mount.

>>159249559
>I am salty because CiG has transformed from a well funded indie into the standard opaque unaccountable developer concerned only with income
Exaggerate some more...
We've never seen any AAA game developer so transparent even if you don't buy the Jump point, other developer are just that shitty. You can even say that with the insane fanbase CIG is more spied upon than that so called "well funded indie".

>>159202349

I bet your faggot-fucking ass loves the Connie. You are such a fucking faggot retard.

>Latest ATV talking about Star Marine
>They're treating it like a separate game

This is why this shit is constantly delayed. Because CIG and now everyone else expects it to be a goddamn separate game.

>>159267131
we should make a webcast with:

- a confirmed Goon
- a KWAutist
- a Furry
- a Dudebro from CoD
- a Forumdad
- a Gamer gril
- an E/RPer
- a Whale
- a poorfag

anything else? If we have too many maybe we can rotate in and out weekly.

>>159272724
it is an IN lore VR game. when the univerese is in effect you will be able to play SM and the racing game in VR pods while IN the verse.

>>159273057
I don't give a shit about this lore bullshit at the moment. People are bitching about the game taking forever to release while they're begging for the release of what is essentially a standalone FPS for what was supposed to be nothing more than a test platform for the shooting aspect.