/scg/edg/ Elite Citizen: Star Dangerous Episode #83

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>>158964831
xth for Vanduul ships are fucking hot

Also thread #84 not #83

>>1371147

Why does it say place muzzle upward to roof of mouth?

They want americans to suicide?

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A.BEST

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>>158965083
WRONG.

POLARIS BEST SHIP

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>>158964413
>Nah. I'll figure out a way to soloplay somehow.

There's soloplaying and there's soloplaying with the right ships for the right job.
SC is going against the type of game where a single player just upgrade ship until nothing can stop him.

A crucible isn't a mothership, the Polaris is more likely to survive against Vaandul heavy fighter (who would destroy the crucible while you try to fight with a fighter).
You are likely to only survive if your Crucible is following a Polaris/Idris/bigger within a mission.

>>158965361
This. If you want to go solo then you're not going to be spending long behind enemy lines / Vanduul Space. You need to be able to refuel, rearm, repair and to do that you need a crew of people. The Crucible cannot produce fuel so it also be the worst choice for a deep-space incursion.

You'd need a flottila of combat ships, support ships (Cruible and Starfarer), to stay deep in Vanduul space without returning.

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Having pledges for anything smaller than a freelancer is a waste in terms of what ship you get.
Small ships will probably be easy to come by unless it's a rare model I.e Mustang Delta, Mil Hornet, Cutty Blue, etc.
Anything else is just funding the game.
Don't get mad when Aurora owners quickly get Gladiī, Terrapins, Hull-A's once the game is out.

>>158965963
Hull-E or bad

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>>158965214
I second this

Polaris is my sexy shipfu

polaris is gay and needs thousands of crewmember only just to lift up

small/mid sized ships will rule the space and win wars

>>158965963
I hope that's the case honestly. It would be fucking annoying as hell having a decent ship and getting swarmed by 10 Auroras everywhere you go because theft is the easiest option for progression. It would also be nice if new players could sign on with an npc company to fly missions in a loaned ship if they're too poor or want to shop around before buying.

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Best loadout for vulture? Or a better ship in general? Basically I'm looking to just kick major ass. Link is my current set up. Not really satisfied with the weapons loadout I want something more satisfying.

https://coriolis.io/outfit/vulture/3patfFalcdkshf31e7l0m040208B25e272525.Iw19kA==.CwBhrSEZNkg=

>>158967568
You can put just about anything fixed you want on a vulture. You have no need for gimbals

>>158966407
anyone have the torpedo Dorito shoop?

>>158968441
Everyone has the /pol/aris

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>>158969352
Remember, kids. Don't do drugs.

>>158969352
>no color

>>158967568
https://coriolis.io/outfit/vulture/3patfFaledksjf37l0u0n0002005jB3272525.AwRj4zyA.CwBhrSEZNkg=

there

if you get hit at all with that build, you're shit

sensors and life support deranked to E for power issues or you could go visit farseer and overcharge that PP

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>>158969505
>You won't come down

>>158969783
THIS TRIP'LLL BE YOUR LAAASSSTT

2.6 won't hit a live release tell Early December.

>>158970951
PTU nov 7th, live Nov 19th

>>158970951
>>158971061
source?
buttocks?

>>158971061
>>158970951

>2017

>>158971061
It depends on how early they can nail the flight model since it has to be good since it's what is going into SQ42.

>>158969352
I want WiDoW vein tattoos

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Hi, it's me, Buck Rogers, just arrived in the 25th century. Has Star Marine been released yet?

>>158971176
well last we heard it was still shit and everyone hated it and wanted to go back to live speeds or somewhere in between

>>158971367
nope

>>158965361
>>158965583

So what should I be soloing with a hornet?

>>158971367
who

>>158971465
>everyone hated it and wanted to go back to live speeds
Too bad, their ships won't be able to literally travel 3x faster than my ship without using super cruise.

Hornet was 210 cruise, M50 was 600~ in the Murray Cup. I bet it could do like 950 super cruise.

>>158971582
>who
Hi, underage.

>>158971573
PMC missions in systems like Nyx

>>158971715
Hi dad

>>158971573
ded bounties

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>>158972368
>PMC
Imagine each weapons manufacturers have their own augmented PMC.

>>158972898
Basically just Miles Eckhart type missions

>>158969775
This loadout still put me way over in power usage. I disabled all unnecessary modules and everything still shuts down

>>158971573
Ship under-equipped to fight a lone Hornet, too slow to flee, too weak to tank you.

Likely everything up to a Constellation/Crucible if its crew is really bad, the Retaliator should hopefully be "hard to kill".
A Genesis will flee if you can't neutralize its engine or so
A Starfarer is likely too strong to attack without a bomber, especially the military version.

Everything else will kill players who don't understand roles-focused ship.

>have a hornet
>can't upgrade to buccaneer

>>158973135
E rank your KWS

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>>158964831
#84, and another not updated ATV link

at least the last guy put some effort into it when he copypasted the OP

>it was me

>>158971061
not even close bb

>>158973324
You didn't even remove the [embed] in the last thread faggot, atleast this OP put slightly more effort in

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>>158967568
https://coriolis.io/outfit/vulture/2patfFalddkshf31e1500020m00B25e276625.Iw19kA==.CwBhrSCYQRlyog==
My personal Vulture loadout of choice. Plenty of chaff and you can sit in sites a lot longer than when you have to go reload a weapon. The burst laser does eat some extra power and you won't have quite as strong shields but it melts power plants and is just a bit faster on shields. If I get a good line up and start on an Anaconda it'll usually be down within a minute. On a related note I traded my Vulture for an FAS because it is just the bigger badder brother and really melts shields with lrg pulse, lrg burst, and 2x PA. If I was to make an optimized build i'd replace the PAs with multicannons though.

>>158973225

>roles-focused ship

>focus: Space Superiority

???

>>158971061
>PTU nov 7th

Not a chance.

>>158973928
>>158973895
>>158971137
>>158971146
>>158971176


You're going to be happily suprised then.

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>>158974573

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We're at 50% folks, remember to #HelpTheHerald on twitter to help us unlock the Hurricane sneak peak!

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>>158975153
That's just a picture of a fucking arwing

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>>158975675
>>158975153
Thanks for #HelpTheHerald ing folks, we're not at 75%! Definitely not a Arwing, as you can tell.

>>158976749
ITS MORE LIKE AN ARWING BY THE SECOND

>>158971573
>hornet
>solo
you'll be lucky to even get to the job come full PU. you'll be relegated to local system defence jobs and pickup bounties if there is a system wherein the authorities put out a notice should they discover a wanted man is in the area.

>>158977101
He'll realise that pretty fast and sign on with a org as a henchman

>>158977220

Nope. Not going to happen. I'd sell my ship for half of its value first.

>>158977790
Melt your hornet for Herald.

Much more soloable career than trying to be a standalone fighter for hire.

>>158976749
cute ship brah

>>158979434

Herald's can't really shoot though. I mean ideally I'd want to do Arena Commander in the real world and just fighter pilot it up.

>>158976749
>anvil art design

no, but thanks.

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>Really enjoy the Gladius
>the guns are so piss that it's shit at the only thing it can do, dogfight
>sabre is pretty much a straight upgrade in every way

what were they even thinking t b h

>>158980254
well either youre gonna be a murdering pirate who doesnt actually make profits from murdering, or you're someones henchman doing either escort stuff for an org or UEE bitch work for NPCs. profit margin for your services as a fighter to other people will be slim unless they know you well as a really badass fighter and think youre worth having over an NPC in an aurora or something

>>158980470
>what were they even thinking t b h
It's less expensive, faster and more nimble than the other fighters. Its role is different.

>>158980591

>faster
>as of next patch

lmao

>>158980679
It will be faster. Not by large margin.

You should learn to afterburn and avoid their gimbal spam tbqh.

>>158980470
gladius is canonically an obsolete platform that was replaced by hornets that (strangely enough) cost more money. sabre, being better than basically every fighter, happens to be 10 bucks less than twice gladius price. noticing a pattern?

also do 30 seconds of reading or video watching before you spend 90 bucks

>>158980961
>noticing a pattern?
Inb4 that anon claims that firepower of fighters coinciding with increasing pledge price is completely irrelevant and that we don't know how expensive they will be in-game, and that other anon who says that you get the ship reward for pledging and that you don't actually pay for the ship itself.

>>158980543
Different anon but I was wondering what is shaping up to be the top solo hunting/traveling ships? Looking to do mostly PvE and jump between fights in ground and space fighting. Currently have the Cutlass because it feels like it'll be maneuverable and pack a punch while able to solo in it especially once it gets the rework and slaving turrets.

>>158980961
>>158981131
A sabre doesnt really give you an advantage over a gladius. A good pilot in a gladius will win every time over a shitty pilot in a sabre.

>>158980961

>lore
>in a balance discussion

fuck off retard

>>158981312
And what about a good sabre versus a good gladius?
What now faggot

So I heard you can search the evocati issue council for private youtube videos somehow. Is this true, and if so, where the fuck are these videos? I have seen fucking nothing here or on leddit. Is there some sooper seekret subreddit or discord or some shit nobody knows/gives a fuck about where this shit gets posted?

>>158981312
The way I see it is the gear gives you an advantage, but the skill behind it is what matters the most between at least somewhat similar ships. In the end overwhelming force will win but in most cases the better pilot will win in 1v1.
>>158981524
The one with the better loadout but again, the better ship has a bigger advantage. A lot of space battles won't be decided by the actual battle, but the positioning and gear chosen leading up to it. Gear being the ship itself and what is crammed on it.

>>158981481
Stop making the thread terrible. Just stop posting please.

Ships that have been replaced with newer technology shouldn't be equal or better. This is basic common sense.

>>158981740

Says who? You?

Common sense would dictate giving every ship a niche, not throwing out garbage reasons for shit balanced like 'c-canonically it's o-old!'

Only an actual autist could come up with an argument like that.

>>158981132
cutlass is an excellent ship and likely getting alot better. should be a pretty damn good all-arounder while having more firepower than several ships costing $25-70 more

>>158981312
ingame right now? broken as hell shields, and the ability to 2-3 shot a gladius with the right guns? i mean i'd love to see a gladius beat a sabre of equal skill but lets be realistic here

>>158981312
>A sabre doesnt really give you an advantage over a gladius.
Yes it fucking does

>A good pilot in a gladius will win every time over a shitty pilot in a sabre.
>This sabre plane might seem good, but if you remove the hud and turn the shields off for some reason you will see it is actually equal in power to this one

>>158981740
they'll be better at being cheaper and more plentiful, I guess

>>158981896
>modern stealth bomber replaces slow out-dated bomber
>HURR DURR WHO SAYS ITS BETTER? YOU?
Stop posting. Honestly it's for the best.

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>>158982062

>muh lore reasons for shit balance

just kys retard

>>158981896
says the fact that the ship was SOLD and REPLACED by a BETTER ship

>b-but muh gtx770 can hold it's own with modern GPUs
>ok, but 1080s exist and are a flat upgrade without question

>>158982150
I think we've been baited by a shitposter. Let's just ignore him.

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>>158982335

>Get rightfully told you're an autist for citing lore as a metric for game balance
>'h-he's a shitposter!'

Accepting your loss gracefully.

>>158981942
In all fairness the Gladius looks way better than the Hornet.

+
Looks better
Agility
Speed
Coolness
Best Dynamics
Better HUD
Less expensive

-
Less firepower

Tbqh I don't want to see anyone else complain about the Gladius. If it had more firepower, I don't think anyone would choose the F7C-M over it.

>>158981548
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IQQRNuB1uEc

:^)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=irPnPZRA6II

Who /hanging out in dive bars to make black market contacts/ here?

>>158981901
I'm excited to see the rework on the cutlass. If it is possible to fit a dragonfly and a handful of pods for bounties then I don't see myself moving on from one for a good long time.

>>158984213
>you see that death sticks dealer? you can be him

>>158984351
>death sticks dealer
See >>158969505

>>158984297
it's been mentioned that the space in the back is being reworked with storing a dragonfly in mind

though i think most of the rework is just updating the back half for cargo and modularity, as well as widening the cockpit hallway area to prevent players visually clipping into the seats/walls

rate my future fleet

polaris
orion
endavor
banu mm
hull e

>>158985531
better have escorts/10

>>158985531
>banu mm
>hull e
why

>>158986127
Bro, I guess you haven't heard the word. Banu is the jew of space, and having a traveling brazzar is fucking awesome, not to mention it holds a good amount of shit.

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I intend to buy a Sabre, what loadout should I take to fuck up a Polaris ?

>>158988583
A retaliator

>>158988583
A different ship

>>158988583
several more sabres and a bomber

>>158988648
>retaliator
LOL

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I just want to know how effective mine launchers are. Should I have a T3 Pulse Dick on my Diamondback and 2 testicle launchers on the sides for when I invariably cut and run?

>>158984557
If only it had a better HUD for fights in space. Everything is so small.

>>158989674
basically slap all of the herald and caterpillar's art assets and herald cockpit into the cutlass and that probably about what we're looking at in addition to internal size changes

and hopefully they figure out how to make the front landing strut/thrusters not snap off like a dead branch from a tree

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/r/ ing the side view webm of the polaris corvette on a turntable. I offer a concept art of Starfarer captains quarters in trade.

>>158990336
The herald has a great interior. If they'd rework the cutlass to be a living/pilot area and then the rear for all the heavy machinery stuff I'd be happy. As it stands that center connecting hallway feels like it wastes a lot of precious space.

>>158994521
however it ends up it should be a pretty drastic improvement since cutlass is fucking ancient and wasnt made around any of the games future features that are now a thing. that and josh coonz knows what the hell hes doing with drake

is this week's ATV austin studio?

i'm about done hearing about homestead demo

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>>158996048
>>158996048

>page 9

so this is where the thread goes when it's only about 33% shitpost

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>>159001182

dead thread

>>158998208
Is this a setup to a porno?
Because I'd totally fap to that.

>>159001182
>>159001249
It's what happens when CiG does a demo then makes the next three weeks of content basically just be navel gazing and backslapping about the demo.

Has really taken a piss on my enthusiasm for the game, and I'm a fanatic. We were supposed to be getting releases and information about the most significant step forward the game has taken thus far, instead we get silence and rehashed version of the same video a dozen times over.

If 3.0s not out this year just fucking admit it and move on, but no, they have so little integrity and so little respect for the people that gave them the huge resources they have that they refuse to even level with us about it except when absolutely cornered.

Mech? Drop in from orbit? Specific mech dropper ship class?

>>159002190
yeah, last 4 weeks of them stretching 1 long episode of "heres how we did the citcon demo" into 4 episodes of literal rehashed info or common sense mechanics has gotten me worried

maybe they don't understand that a constant trickle of NEW information is extremely important when the people waiting on that info paid for it. it makes people very skeptical about them having actually done a fuckin thing in the last 4 weeks. show us ANYTHING new

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>a thread full of anons dreaming to be space pirats, cowboys and knights
cute

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>>159005240

>>158981312

LOL, CIG employee, it is time for you to go to sleep.

Everyone knows the only usage of the Gladius is a 90 dollar piece of fucking shit that gets a "shoe in the door" to buying a regular Hornet for 20 more dollars when you realize how shit the Gladius is.

Literally the only reason the Gladius exists. The game will always be Sabre = SH > Hornet, and the Gladius only serves as a purpose of buyers remorse to get people to keep upgrading and throwing money at CIG.

The true value of the Gladus should be 70 dollars. But the fact that it's fucking 90 is a fucking cheap tactic to make more money, considering how shit it is for the price. Id take an Avenger EVERY time over a Shittius.

>>158981740

Then why is the Gladius nearly 85-90% the price of the superior Hornet? Is it lore that the Gladius is still a big fucking ripoff?

>>158983115

You are either:

1.) Fucking high.

2.) Fucking retarded.

Take your pick.

>>158988583

20 more Sabres, because I will be damned if my Polaris will get damaged by anything less than 15 Hornets or Sabres. I spent 750 dollars for a fortress, not a piece of shit. Get the fuck out of my game, you poor piece of fucking shit. My Polaris will be waiting to fuck you and 14 of your fighter faggot buddies.

>>159002190

CIG is holding back information so that when they drop the goods on us all at once, they expect to milk our wallets. Come on, you already know this.

>>159006363
it's the gateway drug between starter fighters and high tier fighters

"oh i dont know if i wanna spend 90-130 bucks going from my aurora package to this better fighter... hmm, 45 bucks is alot more appealing im gonna grab this gladius"
>realize it's bad but sit on it for a while since it's still cooler than your aurora
"well, another 45 bucks wont hurt"
"well, another 45 bucks wont hurt"
"well, another 45 bucks wont hurt"

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>>159006701
three fighters and two gladiators will probably fuck up a polaris pretty badly. particularly if they can knock out a couple terrets and stay in the blind spots that results in.

You didn't pay 750 for a fortress you paid $750 for a corvette, which is the very smallest, wimpiest thing that can be technically classified as a warship. It will not a be a flying base, it's an attack craft. It runs patrols, and it hunts things ranging from freighters to cap ships, and It supports a fighter to aid in those roles.

I have one too, and if you think its going to just auto beat stuff smaller than it you are delusional. And if you think that you are going to turn a proft solo playing it with NPCs manning all the guns and crew stations you are delusional. And if you think you can use it as a launch pad and fly off in your fighter, leave an NPC in charge and have it be right there waiting when you get back you are delusiuonal.

>>159009105
Agreed. I think a lot of people are underestimating the cost that some of these ships will have with the exception of trading focused ships that can just do cargo runs on the same general routes.

>>159008486

You absolutely fucking nailed it.

This is how Ive gone from an Aurora in 2013 to a fucking Carrack in 2016. They're priced like fucking stepping stones. The fact that the Gladius is 90, and the Hornet is 110, makes me think that CIG's marketing is genius. And once you're at 110, then the Super Hornet doesn't seem so far off for such a good upgrade.

>>159009680
B-b-but Sandi is unqualified and her position in the company is only due to nepotism

I still want a Gladius, holding off till their anniversary stream to see if I can land myself a buccy, or a Delta.

>>159009797

Sandi doesnt do shit. Youre a retard if you think she is anything but a figurehead for "female gamers" and a shoe-in to her own acting career in SQ42.

Shes just in it for the fame. Of all people in CIG, I think Sandi being removed would be great for the company -- in every possible way.

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Anything new happen since citizen-con?
Kinda been out of the loop.

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I just cant seem to take my eyes off these designs.

>>159010198
nup

>>159010198

Nothing whatsoever, and Im not "memeing" or "joking" or whatever the fuck.

If you dont believe me, watch every AtV since CitCon.

>>159010608
The most they showed were a few bug fixes and an updated timeline. Everything else has been small tweaks and adjustments.

I want a space adventure.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IRsVJezFRi4

>>159010198
They announced the next concept sale will be the Prowler in Nov. The avocados are testing some god awful ship and weapon changes as CIG tries to fill time until 2.6 is ready to test.

>>159012313
Vampimp and skellystrumpet

>>159010540
>>159010608
>>159012213
Thanks for that bros

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>>159010024
>their marketing is genius!
>head of marketing doesn't do shit
>I don't know what "shoe-in" means
I expected utter retardation, yet I'm still...

anyone know if that skimmer payout thing for /edg/ still work?

>>159009105
>be any fighter
>stay behind polaris
>zero turret coverage and fresh polaris puss ripe for pounding

hope you brought protection

>>159015727

You are a complete retard. You're done, mate.

>>159016389

I have two Polarises, so Ill just have the second one attack you while the first one baits. Hope you brought at least 30 Hornets or Sabres you poor piece of shit. If you dont have a Polaris, you probably still live with your parents.

>>159012313

With 130 million raised, that's the best they could get?

Erin brings in 300k a year as shown in their 2015 financial statements, so Chris and Sandi have no fucking reason to not look like fucking ragged bums pretending to be Vampires.

>>159016690
who's covering the 2nd polaris gaping anus then? also that sounds like a really good way to blow up the first polaris' engines for me.

>>159016539
Different anon but what would removing her do exactly? People like to see her and she seems to enjoy her job. If not then she does a good job of pretending.

>>159017536
>>159016690
It's like Shermans vs Tigers. Enjoy your expensive damage to your big ass ships if they survive while a swarm of little shits pick away and quite possibly overwhelm you before you can limp away. Either way it will cost a lot of money on both sides.

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>>159009797 >>159010024
> Male VP marketing do shitty job and did CIG actor, barely worth an insult.
> Female VP is anything but perfect, she is fake geek girl, all kind of bitch, only in for the sex appeal, or for the fame

Who let the Gamergate autist in ?

I don't know what you expected of a VP marketing, but I doubt any would get pass Christ Robert control-freak attitude so they could hardly be blamed for CR failing his promise.

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>>159018914
>implying Sandi would be in this if she wasn't gobbling his knob

>>159019157
>implying the other actors didn't also gobble his knob

>>159019157
how much share of the company do you think she owns? does she have any financial leverage to ruin this game?

i dont trust her, she'll go back to the meth and tickle smut.

>>159017536

My 3rd Polaris.

>>159018320

Id rather have Ben as marketing if we could clone him and make the clone take her job. The problem is that she is shit at pretending, and it's very fucking clear she doesnt give two shits about the game, except the revenue it brings, and the acting and marketing positions she can put on her muddy autobiography.

She's a fucking tool. And if she had any real interest in the game, it would be very apparent. She married Chris because of his venture in Hollywood, not cause he was the maker of Wing Commander.

>>159019545
As much as any wife would.
But besides wanting to pump all the money into her acting career so she can impress execs I can't see her caring how the money is spent.

>>159019810
Disco would be better. 10/10 amicable guy

>>159019545

She is using her marriage to her absolute leverage. I dont know if she has any "share", as that is mainly between Ortwin and Chris, but she is ruining the potential amounts of women who may be interested in the game.

If you want a more qualified woman to inspire and do a better job at marketing, then Alexis Lesnick would be a much better pick. At least with her, she knows what the fuck she talks about, whereas Sandi can only name one corporation in the goddamn game cause she modeled in front of the ship.

Shes a waste of space and money, and I fucking bet that her acting in SQ42 is going to be atrocious as hell. Just wait. Youll know her voice anywhere in that game. Shes just too fucking mechanical, and has no real talent except keeping in shape and manipulating Chris.

>>159020023

I sense sarcasm, but at least with Disco, he owned his own IT business. Id take him as well, but Ben is still a better choice.

As a manager, I would always take motivated people over untrained/uneducated people. You can teach skills, but you cant make someone internally motivated.

>>159020158

Over trained/educated*

>see link to some interview or something on plebbit
>"what to expect from Star Marine launch"
>click it
>loading icon on tab continues indefinitely
>page never actually navigates away from reddit
pretty accurate so far

>>159020318
bravo chris

>>159018914
>>159019810
>>159020026
>marketing person does marketing job with qualifications and experience in marketing and communications because why the hell do you need it any other way
>no anon this does not matter this person does not matter
>130 millions

and no one else fucking cared either way

>>159010024
>Sandi doesnt do shit. Youre a retard if you think she is anything but a figurehead for "female gamers"
>>159020026
>but she is ruining the potential amounts of women who may be interested in the game.
which is it you retarded faggot?

go away derek

>>158980543
dont listen to this retard. He is just an dad and role playing faggot who believes in everything that Robert is telling. I'm even not a hornet nigger but the SH will always stay a important ship and will have enough missions to make money etc.

Anyway drake ships still best

>>159020412

You posted a reply to it, so you're a dumbfuck.

>>159020989
>i gotta say something people must not stop caring what i have to say oh i know ill just insult them

>>159020497

You're the "retarded faggot" if your brain is hurting over this. Upgrade your reading comprehension, retard.

>>159020158
I was being sincere. He has a better handle on the community and is generally sociable.

>>159021034

How is that Rubix cube?

>>159021108
>please pay attention to meee

>>159021075

I agree, but I definitely think Ben is more passionate. Regardless, anyone is pretty much an upgrade.

>>159021146

Ironic post.

Why is /vg/ ED themed now? What did I miss?

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>>159016389

But it has a rear turret

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TFW Polaris has 24 crew cap, but an Idris is stated to have 10.

Bengals have 1000 crew cap.

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>mission board doesnt populate with missions
>skimmers dont spawn even after waiting and multiple relogs
>server disconnects these past days
>wanted passenger instakills
>unreachable passenger destinations
I paid for this

>>159002190
>CiG
>i

derek no

>>159022992

On paper, yes, 1000.

But let's be honest with ourselves about the potential of SC's netcode.

>>159023190

>Some guy is skeptical about CIG and Star Citizen
>DEREK SMART OH MUH GAWWWWD

Fuck, you're the poster boy of Shitizen.

>>159019963
more wondering how much of the money she'd have if she up and ditched CR, surely she owns stock in the company

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>>159020412 >>159020026 >>159019810 >>159019545 >>159019157 ...

Funny how I don't fucking care about who the marketing VP is. They ALL have the worst job in the world, they are redundant, easily replaceable, the product and programmers matter more than you do in Public Reception and their fuck up get attributed to you.
And with Star Citizen one have to sell a incomplete game whose director's stunt do as much bad than good to PR.

So, nepotism ? Totally but the good kind where it have little importance.
I would do the same if I was in his/her position.
beside, the actor job is overrated. You could get a undergrade from a theater-club or a YT star and they would do a better job than professional actor paid millions to show their face/boobs for fans

Serious question :
If the acting is bad, do we blame the actor or the Mo-cap programmer ?

>>159022853
>a
>turrett

not too worried, hang a little low, get close to engines as possible, match speed, fuck it right in the pussy

>>159023937
if the mocap is bad you blame mocap, if they talk like a robot and can't show emotions other than "fake joy" like sandi, mocap can only do so much

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>Scroll through thread
>Every other post is calling someone retarded, faggot or similar

/scg/, united in hatred.
Hate ED, Braben, Frontier, Star Citizen, Croberts, Smarts, Whales, Specific ships, Game mechanics, Non /scg/ people, other /scg/ people, Slow development, Impatient backers, etc etc.


I love to hate you all

>>159024720
Hatred is just angry love where you want the thing to be better, as opposed to indifference.
Which is why most non-shill reviewers end up critics.

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>>159024720 >>159025086
> I love to hate you all
> Hatred is just angry love where you want the thing to be better, as opposed to indifference.
Oh shit, we are all becoming Homestuck troll

>>159023937

I mostly agree with you. But on terms of acting, I blame the actor. Mo-cap is only for animation. If Sandi blows her voice acting out of the water, then all my faith will be restored in Chris' decision to have her as an actress.

Depending on how much she wants to use this opportunity to get into Hollywood, she might not be that bad at all at acting. I shall see what she is capable of, but I wish she would express her interest in Star Citizen a lot more. Besides the crying in GamesCon or CitizenCon, I haven't seen a moment where she looks like she genuinely gives a shit.

If Sandi does, and she is just nervous on AtV or some shit, then I will not aggress any further on her position in the company. It just annoys me that the wife of the game's creator seems to show a fraction of interest than that of the creator himself. Maybe I was being a bit harsh by saying she should be removed. I'll see how SQ42 holds up with her acting before I act like an asshole again.

>>159024204

This. But let's see how she does in acting. Maybe she only kind of sucks in AtV, and she may have some hidden potential.

>>159024720

The big thing is that we can hate each others opinions and such, and call each other names, but we all have to remember that we all want the best space game possible, and in that regard, we are all in the same boat together.

Also, The Rack.

The "I'm not a goon" starter kit:

>everyone thinks sandi sucks
>yeah i found this tickle porn just randomly
>talking about sandi and how she sucks is on-topic

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>>159025813

First off, Im not a goon.

Secondly, I found the tickle porn through Derek's blog.

Thirdly, I just affirmed that I was probably a bit harsh on her, because I havent seen her performance in SQ42. It will be SQ42 and her acting inside of it that will truly show her colors.

Fourthly, I was part of RAZOR Alliance in EVE Online.

Fifthly, I really hope Im not a goon. lol


Oh yeah, and sixthly, God bless the motherfucking Rack

>>159025616
Blaming Sandi is kind of becoming a meme, the same stuff (error and shitty acting/voice acting) coming from anybody else wouldn't get anywhere the same attention, no wonder she is nervous, have you seen how freaky gamegater can be ?
Her not giving a shit is not good news but I've seen genius who hated the stuff they made awesome.
The nepotism is the only thing that stick if you believe that another professional would have made an huge difference

Anyway,
I don't think we can limit it to mo-cap and actor, we have to expect some very very cheesy line from Christ Robert, did you watch his Wing commander movie ? CR is in love with tropes.
If he ask for something that look stupid, everybody going to look stupid

Are Conflict Zones fukkt? they dont spawn at all

>>159027013
You just dont have vision enough to imagine youre in a conflict zone.

>>159026302

You're right. Those are some very good points. Especially when you pointed out the lines and scripting CR makes in his games. I definitely feel I jumped the gun on judging her too quickly. You're absolutely right man.

>>159027169

Jesus Christ, what the hell is up with that game?

>>159027013
To get out of the conflict zone go to Control Panel, Add/Remove programs, find Elite: Dangerous and uninstall.

Evocati anon, what are they testing today? Same stuff?

>>159028001
Finalizing flight changes, feels pretty good anon. They're telling us we'll be "testing a new build" in the next week but are tight lipped about what this "build" is.

>>159028093

are the ships still ungodly slow to the point that if you aren't in a hornet you might as well not bother?

Can you guys rec me a good stick for a beginner? Is the x-52 pro a proper choice? This choice is mostly for immersion.

>>159028157
Not really. It feels more balanced than any other build so far, flight wise. Everything has a place. Just weapons need a balance pase to a account for it slightly better.

>>159028383

Not the person you responded to, but this sounds like some pretty good progress.

>>159028340
T.16000

>>159028340

which game? HOTAS is good for ED but I'd rather run twin stick for SC

>>159028383
The fuck? Feels like just a few days ago I read someone completely shit all over the Evocati build.

>>159028340
KB/M is king for SC

>>159028383
>weapons need a balance pase to a account for it
So basically
>wahhh i can't fly faster than the hornet so make their guns shit
?

>>159029234
You can out run a hornet, you just need to exert slightly more effort than flying in a straight line now.

>>159025415
>bringing up some literal who like anyone knows what that means

STAR CITIZEN IS SHIT
SHIIIIIIIIT

>>159029405
OK but what does "weapon balance pass" mean? Sounds like "nerf what i dont use".

>>159028340
x52 isn't really a bad stick, but I'd recommend you to start with smth cheaper like cobra m5 for example. though SC is a type of sim which actually played better with KBM.

>>159028708
People have opinions, some are good, some are shit.

I already know a few will shit all over the game if it don't cater to their idealized joystick fetish. (the current mouse-control is burning their soul)

>>159029995
quoted you because the above might interest you

>>159029840
ships move slower. weapon projectiles need to move slower and be balanced around what's now half the range. damage doesnt need to change, but TTK should go way down in a satisfying way for people who are used to bad guns instead of strife mass drivers.

you can always just type "bump", you don;t NEED to shitpost/argue just to keep the thread off page 10

>>159025772
>>159026087
*Carrie

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>>159030626
>tfw get called a mousenigger by some upset guy sitting in his basement he converted in to a command center with hydraulic cockpit simulator and $1000 flight rig

>tfw their ship makes that satisfying little pop when kill them with mouse/keyboard

>>159030849
>willingly neutering your aim with joystick or gamepad

the verse is gonna need it's victims i guess

>>159030848

Hey, Carrie or Rack, as long as we get a nickname that pisses off those fucking faggot Constellation owners, I dont care.

My effort is to make people realize how stupid they sound when they make fucking nicknames. Connie to this day still makes me tick the most. I fucking hate most of our community.

>>159030849 >>159030960
Sometime a game simply don't have the choice.
We are asking for a game so complex it blow everything else but flight simulator, and we also ask it to be casual enough that you don't need a check-list to land or dock.

And it's not actually as bad as joystick user claim it to be, they reason purely in term of competition, they want to PVP and win with the smug feeling they are 'truly piloting' and not mousniggering

But since SC abstract not only Joystick but also KBM it mean that it can modify your game experience more than if it was purely skill based.

ex : if your ship lose a few maneuvers thruster, an human pilot is fucked, a computer-assisted pilot however will only lose half-as much control, enough to get away.

That's my take at least

>>159029704

And? Got anything new we dont know?

>>159029995
>>159030626

That controller parity shit pisses me the fuck off. It wastes time on making everything useful, and I swear to god, if they do anything close to a nerf on KBM to make other controllers feasible, Im gonna kill somebody.

Not everyone has enough money for joystick or HOTAS shit, but everyone has a fucking keyboard and mouse.

It's mainly whales and hipsters that are the ones who want complete parity, and I hope they burn in Hell.

The people who dont care about parity, and only want to use joysticks or HOTAS for "immersion/fidelity" even if it gives them a disadvantage -- you guys are all right.

>>159031586
Sean Tracy himself called her 'Connie' tho in that last Q&A video.
Makes it acceptable imo.

>>159016816
>They spent how much money on costumes? SCAM!

>>159032012
Connie was the nickname Howard Hughs gave to the Lockheed Constellation

It's the only acceptable nick name

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>>159031858
Don't worry, although the post date from nov2013 dumbing down the game would go against CR own intent :
https://forums.robertsspaceindustries.com/discussion/76653/a/p1

> Star Citizen IS a PC game. It will NEVER be dumbed down for a lesser platform. We will NOT limit the input options or supported peripherals to the lowest common denominator. We will NOT pass on features and technology just because they will only run on some hardware configurations.

Meaning that it's joystick that will have to be brought up to the level of KBM, it's not even like all joystick are as good as each other. For a game like SC you need 6 degree of freedom plus the throttle.

Those hipster should learn that a game is meant to have fun, not demonstrate their penis-handling superiority over other.
I feel bad for making that diss

I might buy a joystick for SC myself, but I will do it for fun, not expecting the game to bow to my strange config.

>>159034662
I don't know why they just implement a slight auto aim for joystick users and call it a day.

>>159035667
The typical "controller parity" hipster like to pretend that Joystick are too pure for "slight auto-aim" and that their perfect peripheral would allow more greater IMMERSION and FIDELITY, which an auto-aim murder gruesomely.

I mean, don't you dream of crashing repeatedly because it doesn't come with any sort of smoothening ?
But I bet the hipster still want force feedback despite it only existing for aerodynamic stress.

>>159032607
TIL

>>159035667
>Auto aim for joystic

Why would they need to? I never felt it necessary when using my shitty setup.

>>159036856
It's what 90% of other space sims use as well as real fighter pilots.

>>159035667
>implement a slight auto aim for joystick users
Please don't post anything like that ever again.

>>159037769
I'd rather use a joystick + Fixed guns than a mouse with fixed or gimble.

>>159038612
I don't care how you prefer to fly, I just think giving stick babies another advantage is a terrible idea. They already successfully cried that gimbals should be given a reduction in weapon size.

The solution to this problem is to remove the stupid idea of gimbal all together and return the guns to the original pledge/concepts. That avenger with the huge nose canon, the Hornet with size 4 wing guns, etc.

Give every ship a pro/con to use and make everyone rely on skill instead of gimbal and auto-aim bullshit.

>>159039471
I'd ship that

>>159039471
>anon says they'd rather stick with how it is
>"HUUUURRR I DOOONT CARE HOW YOU PREFER TO FLY"
>heavily implies anon said to give them another advantage when they simply said they like how it is
>"DUUUR I CANT FLY CATER TO ME AND MAKE IT HOW I WANT ITTT"

Nice meltdown anon

is there anything more profitable in E:D for a newfriend than doing Precious Gems runs?
im getting 4.1mi/21min run, 68 cargo space

>>159041583
Sounds good. Ltd piracy might be more

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>>159016389
>>159022853
Actually the Polaris has two ass turrets, a manned on one top accessed from the engineering sections and a remote turret on the bottom, also the bottom and probably also top missile racks will be able to fire to the rear, but that assuming missiles ever actually become dangerous again instead of being really expensive fireworks.

>>159042436
Polaris with 32x S3 S3 missiles doing strafing runs.

hnnng

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>>159043086
I don't even care how expensive that would be to do. Still cheaper than dumbfire bombing runs.

Fucking up planetside bases is my fetish

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>>159043086
Here's to hoping there are EMP/Anti-Shielding missiles or large scale suckerpunch type weapons for the chin gun. It's be really nice to ripple off a dozen smaller faster missiles to drop the shields and clear the way for the torpedo volley.

Also turns out the ragdoll ragdolling all over inside your cockpit blocking view isnt actually you. Its some other fucker who for reasons unclear got his ass spawned in your ship.

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>>159036923
> It's what 90% of other space sims use as well as real fighter pilots.
> as well as real fighter pilots.
Don't say that ! The hipster can't accept the idea that human need help from technology !

>>159039471
Heavier ship need and have gimbals by default, the problem would only disappear for fighter while a Freelancer would become a sitting duck unless you buff it outrageously.

Beside, you aren't forced to use the Gimbals so the size reduction is a nice balance mechanism.

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>>159025675
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KTK_XikCTQc

I have some bad news for you

>>159043817
>a Freelancer would become a sitting duck unless you buff it outrageously
Freelancer is like twice as big as a Hornet, its guns should be like two size 4 guns. It has cargo capacity so it shouldn't be too buffed.

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so how does the new missile system work in the evocati patch?

I've heard it's changed but I haven't seen specifics

>>159043925
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SuOxMtlHRcE

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>>159041734
fiddled with my loadout a bit and am doing 5.7mi/run now, not bad for 20 mins

>>159044308
Thats pretty bad. Could have been worse though.

>>159024081
polaris fag will never learn, mate.

They think your can rape everything with their shitty cuckbox and npcs

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>>159044308
>Gay Oldman, two time BAFTA winner and Oscar nominee, delivers rousing and uplifting speech during the UEE's darkest hour
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oj16vfbsM9A
>immersion immediately broken by Sandi's improv workshop acting

I'm already sad

>>159024720
sound like a average general

try mount and blade general, it is the same cancer and people getting mad/insane because fucking turks wont release Bannerlord, dead end like Sc kek (kill me)

>nerf speed
>nerf speed of projectiles
>nerf projectile range

so we are getting a shitty arcade game?

a 12vs12 close quarter CoD shit?

>>159044663
Are you mining? Ive got a purposed python for that think im sitting at 140 cargo space.

>>159024081
You do understand the a Polaris's shields probably recharge faster than a hornet can damage them?

This how much of a pain in the ass it is for a fighter to kill a Starfarer, then consider that the starfarer is a much smaller ship with weaker shields and a non-combat focus.

Without proper anti-cap punch You're unlikely to be more than an annoyance to a Polaris, and a single gladiator probably does not carry enough ordnance to deal more than superficial damage.

I'm sure you'll be able to find a blind spot and stay there, but whats to stop to polaris from simple rammiing you or QTing away?

>>159046169
Derp went full retard. Um how are you pirating in a type 6?

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>>159046031

i'm withholding judgement until I've actually toyed around with it t b h but i'm skeptical

>>159043497
There will be. I'd expect large-rattler type torps that can be used to deploy smaller swarm missiles.

>>159046031
>all ships obliviosly overspeeded
speed get nerfed to normal
>hurr durr arcade

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>>159046640

>overspeeded

>>159046967
>he likes jousting

WEEEWW

>>159047213

>jousting
>working against anyone who isn't a mouthbreather

lmao

>>159046568
But that would probably be compromise to the torpedoes main payload. Why do that when you already have two entire second missile racks, 16 missiles each. What I'd much prefer is dumbfire, unguided torpedoes with maximum damage potential and an entirely separate weapons system devoted to attacking and compromising shielding prior to torpedo impact.

>>159047289
That's the point.
Speed change is to get rid of jousting and have more "He's on my tail! I can't shake him, wingman pls" gameplay.

>>159046259
there are enough vids where geminis get heavily damaged by pirates npc

>>159047213
>>159047289
>ABS
Always Be Strafing

>>159047457
I'm actually really enjoying how flying feels in the current patch, but I still really need to sink my teeth into the new missiles asap

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jesus I love the sound of the fed corvette's engines it's so sci fi

wub wub wubwubwubwubWUBWUBWUBWUB

>>159048146
It's not even the best sound in E:D
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=14WSIyWHwkk

hnnng

>>159044663
This is what happens when you niggers let /edg/ into the thread. We get tripfags who are probably minutes away from talking about their boipussies and how liking traps isn't gay.

>>159048410
https://youtu.be/94wSjW7-nuM?t=10
Better video

>>159048564
>Thought those were sidewinders flying in formation
>Just a bug with the capital ship

Man, fuck frontier. Here's this cool as fuck thing they added in and it's nothing.

Will Elite Dangerous ever be fun?

Will Star Citizen ever get released?

>>159047457
How have shields been changed? Anything significant or just removing the zero from the Sabre?

>>159048143
Any info on how the missiles changed?

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>>159048531
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hu3D1yH2WYM

Please don't go offtopic, Anon. This thread is for discussing Star Citizen and Elite Dangerous as well as the contents of the pastebin and Spess games that aren't shitters who need a general to post in.

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>>159048917
Are you going to ride a Dragonfly down the main corridor of a Polaris, anons?

So is the Cutlass useless in Arena commander without Gimbals?

>>159049680
can you say any more about their huge "mainstream" marketing push that you talked about a few months back?

>>159049810
stop responding to bait

>>159049802
Cutlass is due a rework. Try it with REC.

Aphil used to kill shit pretty handily with the Cutlass, but IIRC these were the days of having 5 gimballed OP OS6s on the damn thing.

I think either you would need to be highly reliant on boost to line up shots properly (you would probably need to use a joystick or relative mouse mode RAlt+comma), or... just fucking use gimbals yeah.

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>>159049810
They've talked about it themself. It consists of "affordable" advertisment including a bloodpumping SQ42 trailer. There is talk about doing a promotional gig with a "food" company for ingame flair for anyone who signs up using a cap code. For example (this is NOT what it is): You collect ten bottle caps of [Brand] Soda and can exchange it for a ingame piece of hangar flair such as soda machine, top-opening soda cooler, poster, bottle crate, and such for your hangar or a set of branded shirts and caps/jackets for your Character to wear in the PU with a set of high-end bottletop rewards including exclusive Armor & Ship paintjob skin set or even a 150 bottletop branded Mustang starter pack.

These are ALL examples but have been discussed.

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>>159050938
>[UNSPECIFIED COLA FLAVORED COLA BRAND]-themed hangar deco and clothing for collecting bottletop codes

I'd so be up for this.

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Anyone know what are the criteria for a system to spawn a lot of skimmer missions

like, government, population, state and such

I can't wait to play sims on my Polaris what will happen to my marine that I lock in the freezer?

>>159050938

Stupid ideas GO:

Drink ten cups of starschmuck's to unlock a ¤14,000 coffee machine for your hangar. High-end reward: a caffeine-dispensing surgical implant to make you run faster.

Collect ten Doki-cola tabs and redeem them for an in-game kickable drinks machine. High-end reward: free refills on the planet of your choice.

Eat ten tubs of Hagen-Starsz to unlock an ice-cream dispenser for your hangar. High-end reward: an F7C to take the ice-cream to your wife's son.

Pop ten tubs worth of Trucker-Co stimulant pills and unlock a Freelancer. High-end reward: a copy of Euro Truck Simulator or Elite Dangerous.

>>159051718
Existence of planetside bases in the system owned by minority factions. Economies that create materials or parts for skimmers (refinery, industrial) also want you to go drum up more business. Civil war as well to a lesser extent.

>>159050938
Will Nokia be participating?

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>>159052091

Actual benefits are a definitive no-go. Even the Gamepackage idea with a sponsor is very much disliked, the AMD deal resulted in a significant number of ships that have since been CCU'd away to oblivion which (for lack of a better word) dissapointed AMD.

Regardless of if they decide to go with a drinks company, a food company, a snack company it'll be a code on the packet that's added to your RSI account where you choose what to spend your tokens on. Marketing is wanting to allow people who collect a significant number of codes to gain access to a game, but ideally without saturating ships, so talk currently is focusing on a high-token cost reward that gives the individual Star Citizen only package (Non-SQ42) with a Snubfighter, basic armor, and a "Mercenary for hire" theme to the Token package with the intent that they'll either buy a "full" package before release, or become crew on a backer's ship and work to buy their own ship in the future.

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>>159053108
No plans for a technologocial food company to be the sponsor, this is intended to be an international company that have products that can include a code with each purchase.

I could see how Nokia branding would work, though. But it would most likely similar to the AMD promotion where the Nokia phone's box is branded with the Star Citizen logo and reskined exclusive ship, with a token inside for the ship. http://gizmodo.com/305211/nokia-kits-out-fords-mustang

>>159053131
To be honest, I think CIG should make the Mustang Omega one of the fastest ships in the game since it was sponsored for a limited time by AMD.

>>159053650
it is

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>>159053650

>>159053131
>>159053419
Wait, what you're saying seems legitimate today. What's up?

>>159054215
The magical difference between shitposting fake drama to goons to see what they'd believe and actually answering questions about the game that aren't that interesting

>>159053740
It doesn't handle very well which kinda sucks..

>>159053850 Not joking here.

>>159054827
It's pretty much a entry level racer with decent speed. Consider moving on up to the M50 or 350r if you want better handling or speed.

>>159053419
>this is intended to be an international company that have products that can include a code with each purchase.
you know, living outside America I always considered those promotions rubbish
and then I live somewhere that CIG won't ship to for whatever reason

>>159056195
Since the promotions are entirely digital items, as long as you can get a [product] and get the code off it then shipping is a non-issue since it would be added to your account online.

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I've beeon out of the loop for a while, are you guyst still discussing Elite Dangerous or this thread just became Citizen circlejerk?

>>159056338
what I'm saying here is that that product won't have codes for me, which necessitates having to look for it online, very easily done but still disappointing

>>159056545
Try browsing the thread faggot

>>159050938
Why is anyone listening to this fagoot????
He was totally wrong about citizencon and then to cover his bullshit he admited he was "merely pretending"

Also, he said he woukd ditch the trip. Agent faggot gtfo

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>>159057357
I think you need to understand reading comprehension a bit more.

>>159057015
i thought asking question right away would be better but i see it's raining faggots here.

>>159057639
How can you tell it's raining faggots when you haven't stoppped sucking cocks long enough to leave to look out the window to check?

ayyy lmao, stations don't restock srvs with ammo and fuel, yet the infobox says station did. What a game

>>159058757
hold onto your socks: if you abandon passenger missions they still count towards your total

meaning if you abandon 3 passenger missions, you can only stack 17 missions afterwards instead of the normal cap of 20

I N C O M P E T E N T D E V S

cant wait for fdev to hold bugdixes hostage and release them with 2.3, to inflate the value of update.

>>159059363
Can't wait for Elite Dangerous to go free to play.

>>159059561
muh paid seasons

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>>159058957
>>159058757
I don't even play any longer and Frontier still finds ways to disappoint me

So I managed to rent an Aegis Gladius, and i'm loving it. I went from dog fighting in a Cutlass Black, to this thing and my scoring has gone up significantly. When 2.6 probably drops the Cutlass may be more viable again with the speed nerfs to most dog fighters.

>>159060496
Inb4 the gladius anon complains that its firepower sucks compared to the F7C-M.

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>>159060496
Doh forgot my picture.

>>159060496
3.0 is when the Cutlass will be viable to be considered as viable, until then it's old work. It's being completely remade from the ground up.

Gladius is a hot ship, only a few people actually have the skill to fly it as it's supposed to. A lot of people don't use it's maneuverability to stay behind the slower heavier fights while unloading on them, they just try spinningthatsaneattrick and jousting then complain the Gladius is bad when in reality they're just shit pilots

>>159060657
More like shit pilot anon refuses to believe he can't fly agile ships and projects his shitty ability onto light fighters while using the F7C-M as a crutch

>>159061016
I'm sick of gladius pilots whining. I already said plenty of times it's a light interceptor meant for keeping fighters engaged and running rings around them. It's not a heavy fighter meant to alpha strike things and it doesn't have knife wings to ram people with.

>>159060657

Even if you upgunned the wing's to size 3 it still wouldn't be near the Hornet in terms of firepower, shielding, or hull health.

>>159061196
Atleast the shitty pilots who can't fly a agile ship will jumpship to the Buccaneer since they need the clutch of extra firepower to be half effective

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>>159060821

>staying behind ships
>in SC

A SH isn't a freelancer, you're not going to 'stay behind it' with the hornet's rotation rates

>>159061392
Sounds like you need to stop being shit, you can strafe around even a Hornet F7C letalone a SH with the gladius faster than it can rotate.

>>159061392
>you're not going to 'stay behind it' with the hornet's rotation rates

t. shit pilot

>>159061554
>>159061942
So what you're saying is that when the SH decouples, strafes right and left while flying backwards and shooting at you, you're planning to fly behind him and keep flying behind him everytime he just points his nose at you while flying along a completely different axis?

so did they ever fix the sabre's shields being completely fucking broken with the regeneration?

>>159062562
Negative

>>159062556
>hornet flies decoupled
>your target pip literally doesn't move
You're saying you can't dodge his fire while shooting a slow moving target?

>>159062562
no theyre still fucking impossible to kill relative to anything else flying.
Basically the only relaible way to drop one quickly is a couple full volleys of mass drivers and a missile or two.

>>159062736
you can still evade and manuever while decoupled. Very effectively.

Or do you literally just coast along your current vector when you decouple like a moron?

>dodge his fire.
There is no dodging fire in this game, there are people who can aim and compensate for their own movement and people who cannot.

>>159062736

>hornet decouples
>his HP and armor bonus negate your limpdick S2 cannons and useless missiles + gimballed mousenigger cannons basically oneshot you
>'just stay behind him ;)'

>>159062971
>>159062949
I'm not even that Anon and I can take out a decoupled hornet. They tend to crash into something before your shields drop.