Shadowverse is a class-based collectible card game akin to Hearthstone. The Steam version launched on October 28th.
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Platforms: iOS, Android, Steam (http://store.steampowered.com/app/453480/)
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Official Website:
https://shadowverse.com/
Card Database / Deck Editor:
https://shadowverse-portal.com/
Intro Guide/FAQ:
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Friend list:
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Banished >>159153256
Elf
Post budget Lego replacements
Forte - Seabrand Dragon
Merlin - Scholarly Witch + Spectral Wizard
BOY THIS IS REAL SCARF WEATHER
>>159172946
>elf
>pureI actually agree
Thoughts? already have one white paladin.
>>159173024
but I'm playing dragon
nth for based golden birb of smooth curves and cockblocking
It's me, Vania!
>>159173064
I love this
>your favorite waifu is a shit card
what's her name bros
>>159173089
moon bunny - literally nothing just spend 10500 for three copies you nub
>>159173201
Kaguya will become OP if the Hearthstone aggro meta ever slows down.
Prove me wrong.
>>159173143
Fucking left you fool. Otohime is as good as it gets in T2 and Odin is the answer to any single problem.
>>159173143
Left cause supreme removal
how do i convince my gf to dress up like pic related
>floral fencer turn 4
>shadow assassin turn 5
>I didn't draw a single 2 drop
I have never been blown the fuck out this hard
Thanks for making and maintaining /svg/ anons! Hopefully this general doesn't die off like my favorite other ccg did!
GOLLY
>>159173238
It's for the pastebin m8
>>159173198
I loveyou_______________
1st reroll attempt here...I should definitely stick with these right? Cards on page 2 are Mythril Golem and Orb Dragon.
On a related note, I only received 30 packs instead of the 36 I got last night...is it random?
>Have 6 pluto
>No aurelia or otohime
Why is this allowed?
>>159173342Anon, I...
>>159173338
I know. I'm saying you should put that.
>>159173359
>On a related note, I only received 30 packs in
They are giving less but you can link the account to receive more 3
>golds
A lot of useful things but too spread
>legos
Only Merlin is useful
>Leaving Elf with a board right before turn 6
What was this megabaka thinking?
>>159173445
Is Pluto even any good?
>>159173279
I really hope you're playing take 2.
How can you guys play this game without the urge to fap?
>>159173302
wtf i love brown girls now
Why the fuck does mordecai the duelist even exist in arena?
>>159172946
>(embed)
How the fuck did I know?
>>159173558
In take two.
In constructed? Fuck no.
https://shadowverse-portal.com/deck/1.4.62sZ2.62sZ2.62sZ2.62sac.62sac.62sac.5_38w.5_38w.5_38w.62tHw.62tHw.62tHw.62vkA.62vkA.62vkA.62sZM.62sZM.62sZM.62u_c.62v0O.62v0O.62v0O.5_4sI.5_4sI.5_4sI.66j8S.66hRE.66hRE.62xRs.62xRs.61SE6.62u_S.62u_S.66hRE.61PnY.61PnY.61NLI.65BUS.65BUS.65BUS
I see how it works. Is there any way to play against it? I'm not sure how you're suppose to play against this? Early Aggro?
>>159173302
What game was that?
>>159173602You dont
>>159173330
aww shiiiiiiet that movie was the tits
>>159173672
Any real deck because Satan Dragoncraft is gimmicky as fuck and has never been more than a meme deck.
>>159173575
Of course
>>159173518
Fair enough.
>>159173663
Thank god, I already liquefied one.
>>159173602
become gaythen edge yourself with husbando cards
>>159173672
Early Aggro yes
Remember that their general plan to ramp up early means that you can establish dominance early as well since Aelia and Ethica dont really have good stats for their cost either due to their ramp abilities
Once was Face Dragon against a Satan Dragon, after seeing how he was one turn away from lethal after using Satan anyway, he just conceded
>play against ptp elf
>as midrange necro
>win
>match winner wil be determined in ... seconds
Can't take a loss, huh? Too bad my 2 Mordecai's don't get killed by your cancerous win condition
this fairy lover makes me so fucking sad when you kill it
>>159173908
You can't have more than 3 anyway
>>159173456K-kissu...
>>159173201
It hurts
Fuck May. Fuck Nature's guidance. Fuck roach. Fuck Liza. Fuck Ancient elf. Fuck Tia. Fuck Cynthia. Fuck Fairy beast. Holy fuck forest is retarded. Everything is overpowered. I may have broken finger because of this cancerous class.
You guys really shouldn't play ranked in PM2-10 japantime. It's full of Japanese forestfaggot.
>>159173719
Duelyst
>>159174041>kissus you
>>159173991
You know he faps to fairies all the time
Is Shadowverse card art 100% reused from Rage of Bahamut?
>>159173201
a-abracadabra
Isabelle is easily the worst girl.
Vampy is the best.
>>159173201
Medusa.
>>159174121
>WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH
>>159174223
wtf i hate shadowverse now
>>159174306
What is the genius designer of medusa clothes?
>>159173064
>>159173064
>playing a 4 mana card
>3/5 PP
>playing PtP on turn 5 period
is there A N Y
N
Y possible way to have 30 shadows by turn 5?
>>159174293
>Isabelle
>So fucking devoted to her loved one she goes crazy and tries to defy the rules of nature just for him
>worst girl
nah
>>159173238
To stand before me is foolishness
>>159174501
>used goods
>autistic
>Cow tits
Yeh, she is worst girl.
>>159173201
Pascale
Is archangel reina any good? She seems pretty slow to me for follower focused decks.
>In Greek mythology Medusa (/məˈdjuːzə, məˈdʒuː-, -sə/, US /məˈduː-/; Μέδουσα "guardian, protectress")[1] was a monster, a Gorgon, generally described as a winged human female with a hideous face and living venomous snakes in place of hair.
But she's goddamn gorgeous in every game I play with her.
>>159174470
T1 fairy circle
T2 fairy circle fairy circle
T3 Altered fate
T4 altered fate -> altered fate
does forest have one core card that can be nerfed to balance the class like Haven and aria?
Is there a deck archetype that is good against both Tempo Elf and Storm Haven anyway?
And with the occasional Elana Haven
http://pastebin.com/kanjP5tv
Any more?
>>159174635
because medusa was a girl so beautiful goddess got jealous and turned her into monster
>>159173201
>tfw all of my favorite cards are decent or good
>>159174635
She's nothing but a loud brat.
>>159174582
Vampy is immortal. She's probably had dozens, if not hundreds of lovers throughout her life.
>>159174121
>Waaah stop trying to win against my faggot retard-friendly deck
Vampyfags are the worst.
>>159174713
Control Sword is good against Tempo Elf and Storm Haven and can take Elana but can't take Elana/Seraph.
every thread until you like it
>>159174501
Actually believing she can bring back the dead and thinking it's a good idea makes her automatically retarded.
She got nice evolution orbs though.
>>159174501
Kyle was a lucky man
>>159174698
Ancient Elf and Roach
and Tia and Cynthia and Liza
>>159174806
gimme pixiv or artist
>>159174806
I like it, now what?
>>159174783
B A S E D
>>159174806
I already like it
>>159174798
Given that I almost never see Seraph in the ladder right now, I think I'll aim for that
Well, either that or getting one more Forte for this Face Dragon deck, though often two Fortes is enough for me
>>159174910
I haven't thought that through
>>159173302
>>159173606
Based Houtengeki.
>>159174664
start with 3 cards
+2 turn 1 to get 5, +3 turn 2 to get 8 +1 turn 3 to get 9
discard 8 cards with altered fate
draw then discard 8 discard 7
8+8+7 discards = 23 shadows +3 fairy circle +3 altered fate = 29 shadows
>>159174790
*nearly immortal
>>159174607
She's only shit if you're shit buddy.
>Play shitty cheap banner deck cause i dont have a good deck
>Consistent wins
>Play ranked for the rank rewards, need the gold to have a good deck
>Slowly climbing the ranks
>Cant go back past some thresholds
>Know that there all i will find is tryhard full tier S decks
>Still slowly climbing towards my doom.
Who the hell though that a no rank reset system would be good?
>>159174698
I honestly think only roach needs to be looked at. Every forest deck you will ever build will automatically include with 3 roaches regardless of type, since it's just too good to pass up.
>>159174783
>tfw you get NTR'd
What the fuck Cygames
>>159174996
It works if you go second since you burn two cards from overdraw. So you get 31 shadows
>>159175130
I am nearing A0 myself and I worry about this, is it worth of it?
Though, there may be the argument that since I am climbing there naturally anyway, maybe I am fine anyway since it means I can do well in the meta anyway
Does anyone know how long the turn timers are in this game? I've seen people take forever with no indication of a timer
>>159175146
Roach should be 0/1.
>>159175291
90 seconds
>>159174978
As a Surgeon's General Warning:
Control Sword is the most expensive deck in the game with 10+ legendaries and 8+ golds.
>tfw you realize that in the summon pegasus card the orcs are trying to save the children from the evil priest
>>159175130
>shitty cheap banner deck cause i dont have a good deck
>banner
>a solid tier 2 deck
>shitty
>>159175303
make it 1/1 with rush
:^)
So what's the "fucking kill yourself for having Olivia in Take Two" emoticon?
how do you reroll on bluestacks?
I wanna fuck Vampy.
>>159175430
I dont have half the real cards, only shitty replacements.
>>159175380
thanks, that's long as shit
>>159175430
He didn't mean shitty as in bad he means shitty because it's a fucking meme and a lot of people are embarassed to have to play it, but you have to to get fucking anywhere.
I mean sure you can play any fucking homebrew deck in beginner but then your games take 15-30 minutes and easily end in a loss if your opponent has like ONE legendary in their favor.
Or you can put together a banner meme and hit A0 in a day and fuck yourself.
>>159175440
this is when you whip out your own
>Versus Dragon
>They are out of gas on their last top deck before I win
>"Excuse the indecorum"
Time for me to finally join the Bloodcraft master race.
>>159175470
>not reading the OP before asking silly questions
>>159175573
What fucking real cards are in Banner? Alwida's?
>>159175614
I think you mean that's when I whip out my shitty fucking Highway to Hell because Shadowcraft must be a fucking joke.
She will be the next Rune leader right?
>>159175632
>>159175573
It literally runs on only bronzes and silvers, with Alvida's in an expanded version and Tsubaki is a solid tech in choice, but the core is basically free
>>159175680
Won't it be someone from GBF next?
>>159174634
pls respond I'm still new to this game
>>159175650
how the fuck do you reroll on bluestacks slut? tell me before I rape you
>>159173064
That expression of pure villainy is hot as hell. artist´s name?
>>159175680
Yes please
>>159175784
Yes she is too slow
Just started playing yesterday. Any point in keeping an animated prince of darkness if I have a non animated one? I could use the vials
>>159175660
Maid Leader, Alwida. Those are the big expensive ones. Ruthless Assassin too I guess.
But this is speaking terms of people with only like 150 dust from story/tutorial shit. A lot of people don't want to dust everything they aren't using because WHAT IF.
>>159175784
Its too slow, yes
But you can meme on people with it
>>159175874
animated makes his entire deck animated. He's the one animated legendary you never want to get rid of.
>>159175802
It's a trace from yu-gi-oh
>>159175874
Cosmetic, every apocalypse card will be animated.
Is there not a way to see what cards I just opened in my collection? Searching "new" doesn't bring anything up except cards that have "new" in their name
>>159175906
>Silvers
>Expensive
Shit anon you opened a bunch of free packs, you can dust some garbage to make a few damn silvers.
>>159174634
She is not used in any decks, so probably not good. But maybe there is some deck out there that arrives at turn 8 with a full board that could really use her in it as a finisher. But probably not.
She's probably good in take 2 maybe.
>>159175941
> animated makes his entire deck animated
holy FUCK now I'm mad jealous
>>159175874
Just melt down the non-animated one.
What can you tech into bat aggro to stop bannermeme?
>>159175906
You dont need Alwidas until you get drowned in meta decks, its useful to crutch wins with then.
but complaining that silvers are expensive to craft is funny
OK so I figured out how to Open packs, and I just opened one and it made a fuck ton of noise and I've got some glowy cards with animated sparkles and one that's all rainbowy an shit. Help pls
Otome is rainbow and animated, medusa is animated as are the other glows.
>>159176104
you dont tech, you just kill him faster
You guys know Ding Dong is a simple slut right, those fucking slut earrings, Unica is the only true goddess.
>convinced steam friend to play shadowverse
>he gets 0 legendaries in starter packs
Now i need to convince him to reroll
>>159176207
EXPLODE
Dust Homecoming for full vials, since it got nerfed.
>>159176207
>animated Otohime
jelly as fuck
>>159176261
I will punch you.0
>>159174806
She's not biting into a fish, so I'm fine with it.
>>159176207
>animated Otomeme
I'd be mad jelly if I didn't already have one myself.
>>159176207
Oh fuck you.
It's fucking bullshit that sword gets actual good cards from their story mode
>>159176439
This image is so perfect.
>>159175763
I'm somewhat inclined to think that as well, unless they haven't run out of other Bahamut leaders to throw into as alternative leaders.
>>159175959
>>159175941
>>159176065
Oh wow that's neat. Thanks
>time to rank up
>THE TRIALS HAVE BEGUN
e-excuse me?
You lying sacks of shit said Shadowcraft was good in Take-Two.
>Don't have banner
>Play against Vania
>Fastest and easiest win of my life
>>159175941
I remember hearing that. That's honestly one of the neatest legendary in terms of aesthetics. Definitely a must hold.
60057
Private match mission please help
Anyone know a good place to get decklists from?
>>159176247
Yeah that seems to work
The more I play this game, the more I hate the evolve system. It inherently favors tokens and especially storm units. At the very least storm units should not be able to be evolved. Units that have an evolve effect should gain no stats to makeup for the huge powerswing they get.
I feel like the only point of the evolve mechanic was to lure Hearthstone players in to make them think it solves anything, but it adds way more problems than it does solutions. Having it be an uneven resource just makes it worse too.
Or maybe I just really fucking hate Sword, Dragon, and Haven. I'm not sure. It's extremely frustrating how a player can go face the entire game and anytime you try to recapture the board they can just throw out a follower, evolve it, clear, and then keep going face. It forces the game to have things like Cudgel to try to compensate, but that just makes it worse especially for the classes that don't have actually good four drop evolves.
>>159176882
Kek nice
>>159176885
>WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH
>>159176839
Thanks m8
Can anyone help me, why cant i craft Petal Fencer?
>>159176885
>but that just makes it worse especially for the classes that don't have actually good four drop evolves.
You mean like Forestcraft? Yeah, they sure are suffering without their good 4 drop evolve, huh. No wonder they're shit.
>>159176882
>turn 5
>no evolve points spent
>nothing played
was he afk?
>>159177062
Every timeStory
>>159174607
But she's a fantastic card. In terms of value and just general synergy she is arguably one of the best legendaries in the game.
Her only weakness is that Earth just doesn't have enough going for it right now. Compared to cards like Wind God though Pascale can offer such a ridiculous powerspike out of nowhere.
I think Earth Rune is actually quite strong in this aggro meta as it is, but just imagine if it got any stronger. Pascale would be the card everyone would complain about.
>>159177062
Why would you want to craft that shitty fairy gold
>>159177062
rewards from story quests cant be crafted you cutie
>>159177074
Uh
>>159177074
Elf princess of free combo fodder says hello.
>>159174084
When will we get Perseus the loli kidnapper?
>>159176849
If you're looking for Meta Decks/Decks based on competitive merit:
English:
https://shadowverse.gamepress.gg/tier-list
jp:
https://shadowverse.gamewith.jp/article/show/22277
and with a bit of searching around: http://game-ai.jp/shadowverse/integral/
>>159177218
PETAL fencer not FLORAL fencer you dip
the 2/2 that makes all fairies become a 2/2 that makes other fairies become 2/2s
>>159176885
The win rate difference between first and second is 3% consistent across B rank to Masters, and units with evolve effects are usually balanced with diminished stat gains.
Also the decks your listing are the definitive decks for taking advantage of new players that don't understand the game mechanics yet. If you really need a cheap build with a good match up against face rushes, try Aggro Shadow. Handily beats Banner Sword and Face Dragon, and the Haven match-up isn't nearly as bad as most people think.
>>159176849
Shadowverse gg. Don't know how reliable they are though
>>159173201
>>159177090
playing banner on turn 4 is a mistake
>>159174223
Don't forget Granblue Fantasy
>>159177171
>Every time
>Story
EverytimeGo play the fucking game
>>159177353
just use the search bar in your collection if you're looking for a card
>play in arena
>get destroyed the entire match
>slowly keep going with only two HP left
>play Satan
>next turn get the card that reduces their health to 1
>proceed to immediately win with my shittiest follower
I'm glad this card isn't good in constructed anymore. This is a bullshit RNG card that isn't at all satisfying to use or play against. It's literally a Yogg-tier hailmary you throw out on turn ten and pray the exact outcome you want comes out, while the opponent prays that outcome doesn't happen.
Can anyone explain the rarities to me. I mean animated and rainbow. Aside from base card rarity like bronze or whatever there is also a chance for it to be animated and then also rainbow animated? Like any combination of the three? Rainbow but not animated or animated but no rainbow or both or none.
>>159177367
http://xn--shadowverse-e63t796khk9bk11e.com/
https://shadowverse.gamewith.jp/
>>159177485
Is there any reused GBF assets? I don't recall seeing them.
Should i use my monies on Arena or Card Packs?
I already have all the leaders i want.
>>159177551
Read the OP.
>>159177551
nigga are you literally just stupid?
Rainbow is legendary. Animated is just animated.
That's it.
>>159176439
How heavy are ding dong's dongers?
>>159177479
no it's called petal fencer
>>159177636
If you're confident to winning at least 3 wins per Arena run, go for Take 2s. Well, its better for you to do Take 2 for Standard pack in general, obviously spend gold on DE packs if you feel like you really need cards from that set.
>>159177663
Heavy enoughto touch my tralala
mmmm my ding ding dong
>>159177479
>Is a fairy with lot of armor and a big sword
>Dancer
You stupid or something?
>>159177218
Based retard.
>grind out the stories with classes I don't play for the gold drops
>nothing better than silvers in the packs I opened with them
I need a legendary drop already so I know which deck to make next
>>159177541
He's slow as shit and the deck has a 30% chance to fuck you over next turn with the 5 PP 13/13.
>>159177714
>>159177834I was thinking of that Pokemon move, don't bully.
>>159177541
He should have killed you or your shitty follower then
>>159177541
Satan was absolutely turbo cancer when midrange dragon was still a thing since he could come out as early as turn 6 and just fuck your shit up.
Now that the meta has become aggro like HS, he doesn't really see play anymore thank god.
>>159177804
>mfw when that guy is from my country
That song would never fly if it came out 2016. Good times, the past.
Conflicted on building an earth craft deck that I know won't be good at my rank (aa1) or joining the horde and making tempo elf that isn't fun for my playstyle.
>>159177923
>>159178042
I think that was the point the anon was trying to make.
>slamming Yuel the Ancient and evolving her against Swordcraft
>they can't evolve anymore
It's me, Vania!
It's me, Vampy!
It's me, me!
Can't find siegfried in the sword list and already did the story mode.
WTF IS HAPPENIN!!!!
>>159173201
>>159178190
>Someone tries to play Yuel on me
>I'm control sword
Aw ye.
Too bad control sword gets dumpstered by PtP tho.
>>159177361
>cheap build
>shadow
uhhh?
>>159178217
>siegmeme
>sword
O im laffin
>>159178206
>no sleeve
Try again.
>>159178221
She's playable though.
Just posting if there are those who need this.
http://imgur.com/a/Dpbmh
>>159178217
>why can't I put this Dragon card in my Sword deck?
Typical frogposter
What are Control Sword and Aggro Necro favored against respectively ? Do they do well against any current meta decks ?I got 2 otohimes, 2 aurelias and 2 cerbs from packs I want to know if making these decks will win me any matchups I can't otherwise beat with aggro blood and banner sword.
>>159178217
Guess you will never pull the quickblader siegfried combo in a expensive evolved 8 mana enemy follower.
So satisfying. :^)
>>159178296
The framework is one set of Legendaries and one set of Gold, and you even replace the legendaries if you're a total pauper and think anything more than Banner Sword is expensive.
>>159178485
dingdongposters and cunnyposters are worse
>tfw your dailies are fucking awesome.
Why is it when I look up Face Dragoncraft, the description and cardlist say one thing but when I generate a deckcode it takes me to a completely different list?
https://shadowverse.gamepress.gg/deck/face-dragoncraft
Which one is face dragon?
>>159178573
leave the dingdong posters alone
>>159178608
>tfw my dailies are capped at 2 because I cannot link this fucking game to a fucking service to unlock my third daily
>>159178608
>ticket dailies
What rank?
>>159178446
Amusing
>>159178536
>control sword
Aggro in general. Though midrange seems like the better deal.
>aggro shadow
Deals with other aggro but loses to control and haven
>>159174076
I would like to have the original please.
>>159178573
Go away
>>159178190
Yuel will never not be in my forest deck.
>>159178573
>Hating on RIN GONE
>>159178536
You need 2 Tsubaki in control sword.
>>159178549
Serpent's breath + Siegfried is just as good though. Seriously, fuck Siegfried. Over-statted as fuck.
>>159178573
No, go away dumb frogposter, ding dong is pure.
I do hate the word cunny though, that's some 3DPD lingo from /tv/.
>using banner deck
>biggest streak is 4 wins
>some of y'all talking about going 15+
I think certain individuals are full of SHIT
>le perfectly on curve aggro in t2 with removal for all your followers xDDD
Of all the memes I'm tired of running into in this fucking game, it's this one.
>>159178828
I play forbidden amulet just to fuck with you degenerates
>>159178868
>liking a meme card
>>159178876
pure shit maybe
>>159178721D baybee.
>>159178536
Aggro Shadow actually beats just about everything except PtP and Haven.
It's a shame that PtP and Haven represent more than half of the meta altogether.
how about a 4 drop that locks out the opponents ability to evolve the next turn?
>>159178891
I'd post mine but I'm doing blood control now
>>159178891
maybe you are
Pupper is the cutest.
>>159178982
Too broken for a 4 drop.
>>159178702
Facebook? Twitter? Google?
>trying to beat elites for dosh
>forest was easy
>sword is 15 fucking games in a row going first every time I get board control she plays Saber into Saber into Saber
>any time I clear the board she plays Otohime into Otohime into Otohime
I KNOW THE FUCKING COMPUTER CHEATS BUT FUCKING STOP WITH THIS FUCKING SHIT GOD FUCKING SHIT MEME
>>159178851
B-but the turn 5 Tia dream.
>>159178982
How about instead we just make the game less shit for the person going 1st?
anyone else starting to get bored by the game? i feel like i would have more fun if i built a new deck but then it feels pointless because cards barely interact with each other and meta deck are going to fuck you anyway
>>159177276
>>159177291
She doesn't help you regain tempo when you're behind on board
>>159178961
Deal with it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LivAao5L8kc
Fairies ain't got nothin' on Dragonfu
>>159179076
>using Ceridwen to resummon Cerberus doesn't give you Coco and Mimi again
Lost me that match.
>>159179236
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bXzJFTS-m6Q
>>159178991
Post it later, bro.
>>159179009
I might be. I'm still a bit stumped on what to do in certain situations. I think a lot of it comes from maybe attacking when I shouldn't, but I notice cards really never stay up for long and there's quick deaths involving them.
On another note, was there ever a link posted to that nip-translated Take-Two class lists from yesterday?
>>159179116
the cheating is a little annoying
maybe I just want to test out a new deck that I'm unfamiliar with
I want a good ai, not an ai who goes fafnir into fafnir because cheats
Mandatory tournament post.
Deadline is changed to November 3rd at 6pm Eastern.
Email [email protected] with your steam to register.
Vote for format:
https://www.strawpoll.me/11541679
https://www.strawpoll.me/11541683
so how do I link my phone and steam?
I do the link data thing but it never sends me any emails
>draw a 2 mana 2/1 storm dragon to win the game
>it turns into a 4/3 rush dragon
>lose
WHY IS DRAGONSONG FLUTE SO FUCKING BAD
>>159178891
Here's the secret to getting big winstreaks with banner sword:It's all luck. There's little skill involved, as with most aggro decks. It's basically just luck of the draw once you get the basics down
>take two
>pick forestcraft and draft a bunch of put down 2 card effect cards
>get very few 2 or 3 cost cards
>only 2 fairy generating cards
>go 1st every single match
>0-5
>>159179103
What? All it does is give me a shitty code and says I can't use this code since the game is "already linked"
Forest is garbage in arena.
>Get tired of losing 2/3 games to haven with my jank garbage
>Decide to do take two
>Get this
I am the cancer
>>159179460
Yeah I noticed that. I can get out monsters fast. Check this shit out happening RIGHT NOW.
So I should be playing this deck aggressively, okay. I assume I should be prioritizing putting down banners when I get them, unless I already have 5 cards out? It is real iffy sometimes depending on what I can/can't draw.
IF I SEE ANOTHER FUCKING OLIVIA IN TAKE TWO SOMEONE'S GOING TO BE A FUCKING DEAD MAN
>>159179205
Her fairies are fucking free, the only difference from Flora is that you get 2 1/1s instead of a 2/2 and a 1/1.
>>159178904
Aggro killed T2 for me. T2 is always the same. You win the first two games and those are usually against people running other classes. After that you get paired up with people who have been winning which are always Shadow, Sword, and Dragon if they made a bunch of bullshit like Mushushu or Olivia. It's fucking boring and a huge waste of time.
I'm done with T2 unless they do a balance patch specifically for it like Blizzard did with HS Arena
Reminder to join the discord if you haven't already!
https://discord.gg/FycRttT
Fucking aggro shitters never expect the Demonic Simulacrum. Feels so good
>>159179449
The idea behind it was to make all your ramp and early game followers relevant late game, in practice it cocks you over more often than not.
>>159179731
I once lost THREE fucking games to her out of a set of 5. I has to go take a walk to calm down.
>just found out there's a 60 fps option
fuck you nippon
>>159179419
Are you going to stream? I don't fell like I can play a tournament yet bu would like to see it
>>159179162
welcome to every card game that doesn't let you interact with your opponent during their turn. everything is so automated you could easily program AI to make the optimal decision in nearly every situation
>>159179929
Lot of people have been asking about that so yeah.
>>159179724
Building your board>playing Banner, only play it on a empty board if the opponent's board is also empty.
>>159179797
>I'm done with T2 unless they do a balance patch specifically for it like Blizzard did with HS Arena
You mean magearena?
>tfw you're too poor to make anything but cheap degenerate agro decks.
>>159179348
You should always go face unless there is some very favorable trade like your 2/1 into enemy 6/2
Your weenies have good/decent attack but low hp so dont expect them to live
If enemy is at low hp and you have storm minions in hand that are a little bit off lethal just play normal guys on board first and if any survive you get lethal by playing storm guys next turn
Never play Centaurs without Storm
Playing Banner on turn 4 when you have a good alternate play is a mistake
which cardfu is the most THICK
>>159179828
There's finally an official /svg/ discord?
Thanks anon! I cant wait to play with all my friends from /svg/ here!
>>159179731
I lost 3 out of 5 games because of her.and I didn't get to draw my Olivia once
>>159180074
golem
>>159179731
There aren't that many cards in the game right now anon. I've been playing Take Two all day and gotten her in like 20% of decks or something. In one deck I got two.
>>159180049
Make PtP Rune.
>>159180081
Shut the fuck up you ginormous faggot.
>>159180043
They recognized that and tried to rebalance Arena. At least they tried. Meanwhile nothing is being done at all about the one here. They haven't fixed the server issues when people disconnect, the complete lack of features of any kind in terms of a friend list, etc...
All they do is give people free packs and everyone smiles like children and completely forget about all the problems.
>>159180073
Noted. Makes sense.
I'm about to fight a Haven, oh boy
>>159180204
It's /gbfg/ being bitter.
>>159180204
Why are you so rude?
I thought this was supposed to be a comfy general with nice people. Was I lied to?
Is there an aggro dragoncraft now? I'm not sure if it was just facedragon that drew all his little cards.
>>159180270
Ah, gotcha.
>>159180074
neptune. her body is unreal
>>159180281
i recommend reddit
>>159180281
He's just a rotten apple, can't be helped, you are on 4chan after all.
Should I prioritize an unevolved Floral Fencer over a banner?
>>159180193
Maybe one day when I get enough dust. Blew all I had on making the cards for bloodcraft agro.
Got no PTP and I probably don't have many of the other golds necessary for that deck whatever they are.
>>159180227
>they tried
And failed even more
>t2 in sv
IT's fine, every class can have good matchups since this is a card game and lucky is something that happens.
But some class are better because of they mechanics at least the others have a chance since this is not hearthstone.
>>159180394
Makes sense, thanks anon!
Cant let the rotten apples ruin the wonderful community experience in here. Comfy generals are wonderful places to make friends and form lasting bonds with people that like the same things as me!
Should I make an Aggro Shadow deck or a Face Dragon deck to climb the higher ranks (AA+?)?
new to the game, is this good or should I reroll?
>>159180447
If you play first, you play down the banner first. If you still have your board of knights, that can force in a lot of damage and put your opponent on defense.
Floral fencer when you go second, period.
>>159180447
what?
>all this Olivia anger
>start up a round in Arena
>Arena and Lucifer on one side
This fucking bitch.
>>159180447
Putting a floral fencer on the table and not evolving it is probably the second worst play you can make in the game. Pic related is the first worst.
He had the princess on the table of the start of his turn. Dropped the gem night, then chose to go face with the princess instead of attacking my centaur.
>>159180049
Maybe if you hadn't spent almost 3000 gold in leaders you dumb asshole.Aggro master race.
>>159180582
wtf who would buy Luna such an outfit?
>>159180582
>aggro shadow
Playing shadow myself, it won't be a climb.
>face dragon
I suppose if you are fast enough to out-smOrc everyone else.
>>159180652
Gotta love free wins.
>>159180589
Too spread re roll
>legos
Unless if you want something specific you have 2 Cerberus for shadowcraft but the class is weak now
>>159180596
>>159180652
Okay so don't play it unevolved. Got it.
>>159180652
>no Olivia
>3 Floral Fencers
>Go first
putting an unevolved FF on the table is a very real scenario
>>159180738
It's not like I spend my gold anyways as you can see. I only use it for Take 2 and I can only do a few a day before getting burnt out on it.
>>159180049
All I have is Vania, banner, and Elana myself.
Cheap and effective is good to start and you're sitting on 22 packs in gold anyways.
>>159180359
but i clicked /r/svg and it took me here
>>159180359
Don't respond, report and ignore, it's obvious shitposting.
>>159180742
She got herself wet in a rainy day, and her friend lent her a set to wear.
just shot a thick load of banner at a havenwhore
How long did it take to make a complete 2nd deck? Im worried it'll turn into a huge grind when I get bored of my 1st.
>>159180589
2 Cerberus and 1 Phantom Howl is good if you want to go Shadow.
What the hell does discarding a card mean? Is it if I've already got 9 cards and it gives me another, or... What?
Wait, is Aurelia's Japanese voice actor Saber's voice actor
That's a little on the nose isn't it
>>159181028
cards like Angel Crusher or Altered Fate
>>159180754
That's a shame, so don't even bother making the shadow deck?
>>159181010
Banner Sword
Bat Blood
Garuda or Elana Haven
There is plenty of cheap decks to make if you get bores. Plus it helps with dailies.
>>159181067
Oh, okay. Cheers.
>>159180582
>that smallness
Waifu2x to the rescue.
>>159181136
Post a good bat blood and garuda/elana please.
>>159181094
It's still a fun class to play with, but just don't expect streaks in a meta where its worst matchup is all over the place.
>>159181094
Not him but as another Shadow player, A rank is when things get really bad for Shadow. The prominent decks all fuck you.
That said, if you're asking these questions you probably aren't there yet. Shadow isn't just viable but if you're competent it's an extremely good choice for climbing all the way through B because you have a massive advantage against all the budget aggro decks running wild.
>>159181256
>tfw trying to build a midrange sword
Are any of the better ones cheaper?
>>159181010
I'm playing a half-finished banner deck. Ill probably waste my vials elsewhere but I'm too scared to use it.
>>159179612
That happens. It sucks because Forestcraft can be super fun if you draft a good balance of generators and combo cards. I've had some awesome 4-1 runs where stuff like Forest Archelon, Cynththia, Tia, and Archer go off. And I've had some 1-4 runs that I just sat there with useless cards that were just bad without their combo effects.
I need a Shadowcraft deck that can fuck up Elana's and Dshift and PtP.
>>159178614
Nobody?
>Take Two
>Shadow
>Forest
>Haven
QUICK
>>159181596
Shadow
>>159181596
Shadow if you want to win.
Haven if you want to have fun.
>>159181514
It's whole monkey paw deal here. Aggro Shadow does excellent against DS and decent against PTP, but loses so badly against Elana that you feel sorry for the loli.
Don't bother running control.
>>159181596
shadow
>>159181256
>Seraph Havencraft has the best matchups overall
>Lowest on the tierlist
I don't understand.
>>159181594
If is not working just copy card by card
>>159180763
>>159181021
I'm on steam, fuck
>>159181742
Huge influx of aggro blood does that to you.
When you can lose within the first 4 turns, most control decks just get destroyed.
>>159181754
I'm asking which is the correct decklist
>>159181742
aggro meta
>>159181692
>>159181712
>>159181737
hokay
Just follow the guide in the OP for card selection?
>>159181356
I can't imagine midrange without aurelia and otohime, so those two are at least core. It's not going to be cheap.
>>159181841
>>159181918
Of course.
Aggro is the fucking worst.
>>159181925
Give this one a spin
>>159178446
>>159181979
elanas seraph does pretty good against aggro though
>It's a get two legendaries you already have and don't run episode
>>159178221
I got her animated card, looks really nice
>>159182124
Perfect. Thank you.
>>159182160
>2k vials
I don't see the problem, I'd gladly take those from you.
>>159182160
>It's a free 2k vials episode
you're complaining why again?
>Bloody Mary into Soul Dealer for game
Feels good man
As a new player with not very many cards, should I be buying regular or DE packs?
DE if you want to play Shadowcraft or Bloodcraft
Standard for everything else
>Beastcal Aria's cooldown increased from (3) to (4).
>Elana's Prayer now only activates when healing a damaged follower or leader.
>Garuda's fanfare damage only procs when an amulet is destroyed
>Blacked Scripture's banish threshold decreased from 3 to 2.
What do you think /svg/?
>>159175906
>Maid Leader
Shit card, put some bros knight instead
>1st player starts with 2 pp and can evolve first
There, I fixed it.
>>159182367
depends on what you want to build. shadow and blood are better off getting DE and the rest get standard.
>>159182532
What did shadow get in DE?
>>159182367
DE for Bloodcraft, Haven, maybe Forest.
Standard otherwise. Most Shadow builds don't even run DE cards.
i'm relatively new. Trying to make a non-aggro shadowcraft deck.
How do?
>>159182367
Standard has 90% of the cards and thus 90% of your deck (TL NOTE: DOES NOT APPLY TO ALL DECKS.)
If you're starting out it's best to roll your core in standard. The 20 free DE packs you get for account creation should be more than enough already.
>>159182485
Should've just posted
>Havencraft now unplayable
anyone got a good forest tempo build?
>>159181742
>>159181256
I mean, isn't there an Elana's Prayer variant that runs two Enstatued Seraph's for the control match up?
>>159182485
>Elana's Prayer now only activates when healing a damaged follower or leader.
wat
>>159182602
Lord of Flies, Ceridwen, Spirit Cycle, Andras. There's also Odin and Dance of Death neutrals.
>>159182532
What? No. Standard has the most important leggo, Cerb, and Death's Breath/Foul Tempest?Phantom Howl/Mordecai are all usable golds
not to mention all the bronze/silvers that you want from standard that are still run like Soul Conversion, Skullcradle, Skull Beast, Rabbit Necro, etc
DE has LotF which isn't even run in all shadow decks unlike Cerb and a few important bronzes/silvers like deathchaser and spartoi soldier. Charon and Ceridwen are decent but Charon is a silver that you can easily craft 2 of and Ceridwen is nowhere near the importance of Death's Breath, Foul Tempest, or Phantom Howl
>>159182506
>not understanding that you need maid leader to get banners
R u daft?
>>159182635
>non-aggro
You will need Beelzebub, Death's Breath and Cereberus at the very least.
Though I advise you against it. You'll get wrecked.
>>159182509
It's only a 3% win rate difference and first player having evo on turn 4 opens up room for a lot of bullshit. Aggro decks would all get way better, and there'd be two turns before second player could access the various 5PP removal tools against a fourth turn first player evo.
>>159182915
You need Foul Tempest more than you need Beelzebub. At least two of them, if not three in a slower midrange.
>>159182915
>Though I advise you against it. You'll get wrecked
Man, that's boring. What classes should I play then if I'm trying to play something like tempo/midrange/control?
One: This game relies way too much on aggro and filling the board with crap throwaway minions.
You can't have any late game threat because removal is so abundant and even if you dont have that
you can just make a trash minion big with evolve and use it to take out any large threats that have yet to facecheck your leader.
Two: Bloodcraft is supposed to be the big turnaround deck (aside from bats)with most of their card effects triggering later on when you have 10 hitpoints left.
Yet very few of their cards feature any significant heals (these went to haven) and the other point being that their go to cards don't usually have storm or rush
instead we give it to sword which has the ability to flood the board easily with trash mobs and them boost their attack and defense, makes sense.
>>159183101
rune for control, forest for elf, sword for midrange
>>159183101
For tempo, Forest is the way to go.
For midrange and control, you want Swordcraft or Havencraft
THIS GAME IS FUN!
>>159183204
y-you are fun
>>159183140
Your Blood comments are accurate, but also the same shit everyone has been saying about Control Blood for a long time.
Your points about aggro on the other hand scream B rank or below.
>>159181979
Aggro makes the match finished fast, i don't have time you know
>>159173201
a cutest
maybe next expac
>>159183140
That's why I have been including 3 copies of the best girl.
Dropping her on turn 2 is like giving a middle finger to that Quickblader.
>>159183101
viable control is Midrange Sword and Elana Haven
viable midrange is Forest, Sword, Haven
not the guy you were replying to, but if you really wanna play midrange sword, I don't think it's unplayable. You just definitely need 3x Cerberus and 2x Phantom Howling or you are gonna get destroyed a lot.
>finally draft Olivia
>everyone concedes before I get to play her because I drafted Swordcraft Aggro
I'm about to lose it on a level you cannot even comprehend right now.
>>159183374
you too anon!
>>159183374
Yeah i am
Wanna join in on the fun with me?
SIKE lmao fun people only stuttering faggot
>>159183474
Delet Elf
>>159183140
There are counters to flooding too and Ward hard counters aggro as a whole.
Aggro decks burn out by turn 8 at the latest while midgame and control are thriving if they survived and will likely win.
And yes, we know the issues with bloodcraft. It doesn't help that it's pretty much all fanfare unlike Dragon's overflow being retroactive.
>>159183509
>SIKE
What did he mean by this?
>>159183415
Don't play this weebstone, Banshee Queen.I'm sure he doesn't get the joke
>>159183509
hey, don't pretend to be me fucko. Don't belittle introverted anons! They can have fun too!
What pack is Merlin in?
>>159183474
Bruh. What kind of lifestyle do elves live to get THICC like that
>>159183435
y-you too
>>159183678
Standard
>>159183560
>Ward hard counters aggro
Only in sheer number. Big wards don't do shit anymore unless they're called Aurelia because now every single aggro deck is running 3x hard removal.
Thanks Dance of Death!
>>159182485
>haven back to being shit
This is all you wanted. The nerfs are too extreme especially when it isn't even the best class in the game right now.
Garuda should only proc the face damage if he actually reduces the countdown on an amulet. That much I agree with for sure.
When I think about how powerful other aggro decks are right now (and the aggro powercreep these games always end up having), I think Aria might actually be okay where it is, even if it is really fucking strong. It is still you putting down a non follower on turn two while your opponent can just start wrecking face.
Scripture's banish being at three is fine. It is a removal spell with no additional bonus like summoning a follower or drawing a card. It being a banish is fine too. It's not Haven's fault that Shadow has such an awkward mechanic.
Elana no longer procing if the leader is fully healed might be okay too though it means the deck will do really poorly against control which is pretty shitty. Part of why that deck can be cool is because you can make proactive plays by sacrificing the ability to heal later on to create a stronger board now. I know it's the hip thing to hate Haven, but a deck with options is always appreciated.
Cudgel and all other turn four evolve cards should be nerfed. This will put all the classes more in line even with just that change.
>>159182913
Most of my matches finished in turn 6, use banners makes anything slow down. I'm using 3 banners so the chance to draw it is very high
Animated Winter's Caprice, liquefy or potential?
Why is Siegfried dragoncraft and why is Dragonewt Charlotte swordcraft?
>>159183101
just play a real card game. these dumbed down ones without player interaction are only good for aggro and rng based decks
>>159183140
>big lategame threats aren't viable
that's 1/4th of my deck is 7 cost or higher followers and I'm climbing fine in AA1 right? cause they're not viable
>>159183820
frontguard and charlotte do fine for me too
the pirate from alwida has saved my ass more times than I can count too and they're all singletons
the only time I flood the board with wards is with white paladin, it's dumb to play more than one at a time unless you're scared of something like garuda popping an amulet and getting evolve to blow up your ward to let the bird go face.
watching bannermemes and blood throw themselves at my wards only for them to get replaced the next turn is priceless
>>159182485
The only thing I want is Aria countdown to 4.
It shouldn't come out the same turn as Cudgel on curve, and Garuda shouldn't be able to instantly nuke one. Other than that I'm completely okay with the decks as they stand.
>>159183926
something something Fanir
something something Ring Cycle
>>159182485
I think you should be more worried about forest dicking everyone over rather than bird haven
>>159183474
this actually made me hard what the fuck
>>159184118
*Fafnir
>All 8 cards are animated
I mean it's crap pack but darn what are the odds?
>lose every game because I don't have cards
>Make a budget Runecraft deck
>1 day later
?
>>159184346
Do your own math. All of it is in the game.
>>159184346
Enjoy a legit spooky Masked Butcher
>>159184346
All animated packs are a thing. Don't know the % though.
>>159184373
>Power level to B rank with 1 good deck.
Enjoy never being able non-runecraft dailies outside of Take 2 again.
>>159182485
>making Garuda even more swing dependant
Just lower it to 2 burn, 2 CD
Card will still be good.
Scripture doesn't need a nerf either but the other two are possible.
Forest needs a gutting first though. REMOVE ROACHES
>>159183560
>aggro decks burn out by turn 8
No shit. They don't give a fuck because the match is over. You only have twenty health.
>there are counters to flooding too
There really aren't. Angelic Barrage is good just against Blood, and even then that deck runs a ton of instant burn damage so they don't really care what you do to the bats.
Sword is just Zoo/Shaman. Their followers have 2+ health and the ones with 1 come back as soon as you thought you got rid of them. Plus, Sword has so much fucking Storm built in that you're never safe.
>ward hard counters aggro
If you're Sword, which can just out aggro them anyway. Otherwise shit like Dance of Death cleans up any wards with ease.
Rerolling for Dragoncraft right now, what am I aiming for? At least 1x Forte and 1x Olivia?
>>159184346
I think there's actually a separate check that determines if you get an all animated pack.
I've never even heard of a 6-7 animated pack but people post all animated packs all the time.
>>159184373
You fell all the way down to B0?
>>159184425
He wasn't asking you to do the math for him, he was happy that he got something that uncommon. Do you need to jump at people because they're happy?
So I got:
Aggro Shadow
Banner Sword
Seraph Haven
Spell RuneOnce I make Dragoncraft it's gonna be Dragon's Dogma and BloodCraft will be VtM: Bloodlines
>>159184517
Roaches is never the problem. This is the real culprit and you know it.
>hur dur free 0PP cards to combo off with
>>159184373
No one is in pre A rank anymore. The power of not having ranks reset means everyone just made their 100 vial aggro deck and soared through to A rank in one sitting. All that is left below that are complete idiots and sandbaggers, who don't want to win anyway.
You could probably climb to A rank using a default deck at this point.
>>159184595
>Halo
More like GAYLO
>>159184623
You don't even play three of those in a deck.
>>159184551
Apart from those:
Deathmist, Scholar and Urd are nice for Face
Midrange/Control uses Fafnir, Genesis Dragon and Lucifer
>>159184551
You need 2 fortes
>>159184623
She's no more of a problem than Floral Fencer, Dragon Warrior, Priest of the Cudgel, and Playful Necromancer. They all do ridiculous things way too early in the game and have no real counterplay. If anything she is the only interesting one because she isn't just NOW I HAVE ALL THE BOARD CONTROL XDDD
>lose with rb against some weird haven aggro deck
Card games aren't for me.
>>159184520
Control Sword hard counters flood.
Tempo Forestcraft is also very good against opposing flood and beats aggro bat thanks to elf child may and ancient elves in the early game and way stronger mid/late game overall.
>>159184551
1x Forte and 7 other assorted legends that don't matter because you'll be dusting them right away.
>lose games because of missclicks
IT KEEPS HAPPENING
Is there a good shadowcraft deck?
>>159184797
>Weird haven aggro deck
You mean one of the best decks in the game?
>>159184885
No.
>>159184789
Wait, all the classes have strong 4 drops? What is thwçe point of this anyway?
I have 3 good ideas to possibly fix agro. I don't mean to use them together. Any one of these ideas by themselves should be enough.
1. You heal back half the damage you took in the previous turn at the start of your turn. This still allows large bursts of damage to occur but if they don't finish off the game their effects are dulled.
2. Every time a follower attacks face if there is a follower on the enemy bored the attacking follower loses 1 health. I.E. If you attack with a bat face ignoring the quickblade on your opponents board your bat deals its damage to face but then dies.
3. Evolving a ward follower gives immunity to 1 source of damage and immunity to spells and targeted abilities for 1 turn but only on your opponents turn. Also breaking the damage immunity by dealing damage from follower will also break the spell/ability immunity I.E. If you evolve a minotaur to a 3/2 ward then on your opponents turn they would need to throw a bat into it or something else first to break the shielding before being able to kill it with a 2/1 wolf.)
>>159184520
No, seriously, I literally feel like you've never played against any complete Forest deck if you seriously think no deck has a strong late game because of budget aggro decks.
>>159184520
considering aggobats is the only tier 1 aggro deck, angelic barrage is pretty good when you consider that it also cleans off forest boards
bird and midrange forest are midrange (yes, bird is midrange, you aren't an aggro deck when you pass the first three turns playing amulets), elana is control and ptp/hybrid ptp is some fucked up "combo" deck that does everything.
>>159184623
>clear elves board with barrage
>they drop 0pp fairies and Tia
You had it coming desu
>>159184885
If by good, you mean a deck that can puke out a 1/2 and 3 2/2s on turn 3, sure.
>can't have over 20 life
Fucking stupid.
>>159185024
tempo swing for player 2, slightly suboptimal counter for player 1 on turn 5.
>>159185085
These ideas are all fucking horrible and you should be ashamed of yourself.
Here's how you fix aggro: make better defensive tools and don't print more shit like DoD
>>159184885
Atomeme or bust.
>>159185236
>don't clear board
>ancient intensifies
There ain't a play that won't fuck you up, anon.
>>159183474
GOD daMN
Runecraft requires so much thought
Fuck
>>159185085
Aggro's really not good enough that it needs to be reined in. I mean, it's good, but it's represented about as much as control, combo and tempo.
Poor midrange though.
>>159185271
back to hearthstone
Has anyone ever played a against a Havencraft in Take 2 that doesn't drop a turn 1 Sacred Plea?
Also has anyone ever played against a forest player in ranked who didn't have Elf Child May and at least 2 Nature's Guidance in their opening hand?
Because I don't think it has ever happened to me.
>>159185271
t. elena haven
>>159185429
most tempo decks are basically midrange, you don't need to feel bad for them
>>159185462
Never touched Hearthstone in my life, try again.
>>159185473
Don't play Haven either.
>>159185024
>ç
Motherfucker you made me scratch my screen.
I have no friends to give me money.
14191
>>159184810
both decks also just flood the board and go face unless they feel threatened.
What is sandbagging?
>>159185429
Midrange is doing pretty fine between Sword and Forest. Midrange Dragon could use a push though.
>>159184926
I don't know, it's beginner and I just started playing, he played that one big bird, I think that's garuda, why do people play toptier stuff in beginner 2.
>>159185515
Thank yous
>>159185614
losing on purpose so you don't rank up
>tfw top deck what would have been lethal next turn
>lose because of it
holy shit today is not my day. was 700 points away from AA0 and now im like 15 away. kill me.
>>159185469
Devs are making sure Haven and Forest get the good cards in arena. That's why every haven has at least 3 Arias and can consistently drop one in turn 2.
>>159185616
I understand tempo and I understand midrange, but I don't understand midrange tempo forest. Does it just do... everything?
>>159185597
>control sword is basically aggro!!
the deck runs no 1 drops, and spends the three turns after that dropping 2/2s and 1/1s if they're going 1st, are you seriously arguing that it has any capability to race someone early on?
How's my ramshackle dragon deck looking? It's not great, though I have pulled some clutch turnarounds with it.
ocgb
>>159180074
>>159185597
>decks attack the enemy health pool unless there are larger threats to deal with
Is this literally your first card game?
>>159185597
Control Sword is nothing like flood the board and go face. You're thinking of Midrange Sword. Control Sword wants to grind the opponent out until they have an overwhelming advantage, not just out-tempo people and hit face. They don't even have the ability to proactively flood except for Floral Fencer and Otohime.
>>159185734
midrange and tempo usually mean the same thing, people honestly shouldn't call things "tempo" decks because all it means is that they're capable of big tempo swings (these decks tend to be midrange anyway)
the easiest example of this is bird haven. It's actually not an aggro deck, it's midrange. After all, everyone agrees their power turns are from 4-6 when their amulets start popping with baldy coming in to wipe out your board and suddenly have 3-4 followers out while they just erased yours.
so "tempo midrange forest" basically means a midrange forest deck that has very effective tempo swing tools.
>Clay Golem sounds like a doofus in English
>In Jap he's a fucking demon
>>159185784
I fucking hate this card.
Just bane storm my shit up
>Prince of Darkness
HOLY
SHIT
IT SHOULD BE ILLEGAL TO BALL THIS HARD
GETTIN' PAID, GETTIN' PAID
>No ingame chat
What's the point?
>>159185860
Sounds rather like Taunt or Control Warrior in HS isnt it?
>>159185351
>And then, a 0/4 with guard for 3 mana is born and Anon ruin everything forever, forever.
>>159186101
Why would you want that when most of the time you are facing nips? Can you ching chong with them?
>always first against havens
>always draw death breaths, lotfs and olivias at first turns
>always t5 tia
>never draw tauns or aoe when you need it
>>159185945
さよなら~
>>159186035
I like how another way you can spot newfags is they call Satan Prince of Darkness
>>159184346
I got this all animated yesterday.
>>159186230
it's nothing like control warrior.
Control Sword needs followers out to protect their face because they have 0 ways to gain life.
Control Warrior plays very few minions at a time and instead spends most of the match gaining 99999 armor so they run you out of burn and damage.
need private win mission assistance, my truest friends
94777
>>159184553
It's possibly any 3+ animated pack that becomes full.
Every fucking time I play someone with a jap squiggles name
>>159173201
Kaguya is good though.
I have her in mystormdeck and has won me clutch games by allowing me to survive 1 more turn for stuff to come up
>>159186237
Shadow was here, aggro sucks.
>>159186308
Been playing literally four days. Never claimed otherwise.
Just finished my Face Dragon, what should I be making next?
>>159186406
Japs are superstitious and don't play again if they lose, because bad form etc.
And to make you suffer longer for beating them, stupid gaijin.
>>159186485
Discard Dragon.
Wait so the fat alchemist wants to kill the Dragon Knight because the guy killed her husbando? Kinda more interesting than expected.
>>159186230
It's like a high tier version of taunt warrior, yes. You have the best wards in the game and you can build a wall your opponent will never breach, and all you want to do is stall until your opponent runs out of shit and you don't. There's nothing quite as beautiful as using White Paladin against a board full of bats only to immediately follow it up with a hexproof Aurelia
>>159185775
Anyone? I'd like to know how retarded this set up is.
>>159186630
I die a little inside when people use angel barrage on white paladin though
Does this game have any keyboard shortcuts>
I hate how slow navigating the menus are because I have to point and click with the mouse every time
Both players should draw one card at the start of the turn now. Second turn advantage is getting bigger.
>>159186616
>fat
The word you're looking for, is "thick".
>>159186367
please respond
>>159186763
before any of that, they should look at DE cards like Tia that broke the balance in the first place since they benefit too much from going 2nd.
it was fine before DE hit after all
How the fuck do you beat dimension shift? I can't stand having to rush my opponent down before turn 9
>>159186825
SHE JUICY
>>159186645
I don't know what's the purpose of this deck, its complete shit
I NEED ONE MORE OTOHIME FOR MY MIDRANGE SWORD
WHAT IS A GOOD CARD TO SUPPLEMENT IN THE MEANTIME
>Aggro flooding the board
>holding Foul Tempest
>Second Flood
>Foul Tempest
>Last Gasp
>Foul Tempest
is there a list of trash cards to liquefy?
>>159187006
alwidas command
>>159187124
I already have 3 in there.
>>159186992
I made it without really thinking about it, also it's more to hold me over until I can finish building an actual deck.
>>159186938
>how do I stop someone from getting all their combo pieces?
Gee, I don't know, anon. Kill them faster?
>Your blood will paint my spear red!
>Conflagrates my Floral fencer board, I play Otohime.
>Your blood will paint my spear red!
>Fafnirs Otohime, I play Tsubaki.
>Waiting for response.
I think he disconnected out of embarrassment, sorry Forte.
>>159186568
I kinda wanted to play something else, but I guess focusing on Dragon makes sense.
God Arena is so bullshit. My opponents have Crystallia Tia, Aurelia Regal Saber, all the fucking cards you need to make your craft good. Meanwhile I get trash neutrals.
Which one?
>>159187006
Noble Knight is the closest.
>>159187357
Discard Dragon is shit though
>>159187378
Satan for the memes
>>159187357
Something else? Hmm, maybe Satan Dragon?
>>159187378
>deathly tyrant
kek.
definitely right, mordecai is too good to pass up
>>159187373
Everyone gets trash neutrals in the middle of their draft.
Everyone also gets a high chance of legendaries for their first and final picks
>>159187412
Thanks friend.
>trying it out for the first time
OH BOY
>>159187229
>how do I stop someone from getting all their combo pieces before turn 6
Gee, I feel like killing myself
>>159187378
right and then draft aggressively to make sure you can survive to drop them
>>159187378
There's only one card that matters.
>>159187378
>85+29 vs 73+30
I'm leaning on right though. Bonus point if you have Ceridwen.
How exactly does Overflow work?
>>159187417
>>159187429
Maybe Mid Dragon?
>>159187595
Tfw didnt have the correct removal for this cunt
and he was a pain in the pass the whole time he was played
>>159187549
>runecraft able to take off by turn 6
I don't buy that. You need stars to align for that to happen.
>>159187717
It activates when you reach 7 mana, most Dragoncraft cards get a bonus when used once overflow is active.
>>159187717
Once you reach 7 mana, Overflow activates and never deactivates unless you SOMEHOW get under 7 mana again
>Got my second Saber
>get excited and think about making Control Sword
>Realize I am missing Alexander and Olivia
I suppose I can do Midrange at least
>>159187890
Oh. Why do some classes get bonuses like that and some don't?
Is the Midnight + Deathly Tyrant meme deck any fun?
Help
>>159187717
Unlock 7 max mana, acquire money.
>>159186825
Well, she certainly is thick.
>>159187950
Right for memes.
do you get anything for beating all the campaigns?
How do I stop being matched with haven cancer?
It's retardedly frustrating even when you win
>>159187950
Always mordecai. Odin is a better Pluto most of the time.
>>159187950
Absolute Removal + Mr. Bones Wild Ride
>>159187950
It's obvious. >>159187595
>>159187950
I CHALLENGE YOU TO A DUEL
>>159188057
A flair
>>159187950
left will win more consistently, drafting 2 cards that make you skip turn 8 is a red flag to me
>>159188057
7 Take two tickets, which means 7 packs at minimum and more if you win big.
Also including all basic class cards most idiots still don't know how to get.
And that Lorisa's flair.
>enemy plays path purgatory on turn 6
>has 1 HP left
>can't do nothing with my almost combo forest stuff
I mean, pretty cool, but it's beginner 1 ffs I didn't even knew that shit existed.
>>159187942
For variety. Most Bloodcraft cards get a bonus when you're at or below half health, but it's actually kinda shit and most go for bat builds.
>>159187567
>>159187472
The only thing better than one Mordecai is more Mordecais, right?
>>159188314
As much as I like Cereberus, Madame Lich has grown on me by making all my followers big guys.
Spirit Cycle is pretty bad in a board control mode.
>Currently on a 15 game winning streak in masters with control bloodcraft
No one expects it
Can I build anything with that? I know that I should liquify beast dominator, but what else?
>>159188314
Yes. Madame Lich breaks stalled boards and Cerberus really isn't that good in T2.
>>159188578
I'd reroll
Am I the only one who thinks Mordecai needs a nerf? Tone down his hp to 4 or something because he's pretty fucking insane.
I'm trying to make a Flame and Glass deck (yeah, I know,) but I'm not having any luck. I tried going Runecraft because of the draw power, and all the Guardian Golems would provide both Glass and Flame from attacks, but they're still very vulnerable to spells and card effects.
Then I tried going Forestcraft because Elf Girl Liza can provide protection from spells and effects, but the draw power isn't good enough.
Even though I've got three of Flame and Glass in these decks, out of the four matches I've played, I've only drawn Glass a single time. Fucking seriously, it's retarded.
Anyone have any recommendations or tips?
>>159188675
Just Odin his ass
>>159188578
>Front Lines
>Dracomancer's Rites
>Arcane Enlightenment
>Archangel Reina
>Demonic Simulacrum
>Ancient Forest Dragon
>Silver Bolt
That's what I see.
>>159188658
I started with the steam version, so I'm fucked. Have to play RB I suppose.
>>159188675
He costs 8, if you can't deal with him by turn 8 you deserve to get grinded down.
>>159188675
LET'S
DO
THIS
RIGHT
(ON TURN 8+)
>>159188623
>Cerberus really isn't that good in T2
Are you dumb? Cerberus is always amazing. She's a 5pp 3/3 draw 2 cards. She has great flexibility, can help you when you're ahead or behind, and is basically just a good play all the time.
Is is possible to reroll on PC? or am i stuck with 2x seraphs?
>>159188726
Dimension Shift is the only way to guarantee it.
>>159188623
>Cerberus really isn't that good in T2.
>>159188726
DShift.
>>159188675
>let's kick the loli further in
Don't bully the Luna. She has suffered enough.
Aurelia is literally Saber and she literally evolves to become literally Red Saber.
What's the fastest-paced class?
Help...
Good start to my daily draw, first Satan.Rest was shit.
>>159188854
>>159188925
I'm curious why the nip rated her as A at best. Probably has to do with the fact that she is not consistent without 3 copies.
>>159189097
Left. At least Madame Lich can be a regular 3 drop. Ceridwen's evolve is shit in my opinion.
>>159188675
What would nerfing his HP even do? Outside of Haven and Earth Rite decks, either way he's just going to come back if you kill him.
>>159189097
That's the easiest left I've ever seen. Phantom Dragon is shit and Ceridwen is overrated. Meanwhile Death's Breath is a bomb gold and Madame Lich is perfectly fine.
>>159189097
Left. Ceridwen is a bae, but that dragon is horrid.
when rerolling is it too much to hope for 4 legondaries in the same craft?
Jesus, I just survived 4 turns after someone played Prince of Darkness to win the game. I had a pretty large lead for most of the game, but I was really concerned he was going to somehow put me at 1 hp and kill me. He got two 13/13's, the 7 damage / heal 7 card, and some other card that evidently wasn't good enough because he conceded.
Is it worth to run Execution just to deal with Elana?
>>159186308
you mean a way you can spot newfags is if they call satan good
>>159189474
It's pretty tough. I may have just had bad luck but I easily did over 300 rerolls. The closest I got to 4 legendaries from one craft was 2 Aurelia's, 1 Otohime.
>>159188675
So it would just be a nerf against Haven?
>>159189610
Execution is a nice little card if you're playing a control deck, it has some great flexibility.
I have a havencraft quest, what should I sub for moonbunnies in storm?
>Get to C2 with aggro
>Suddenly elanas prayer havencraft everywhere
Make it stop please
>arena
>have a follower who can't attack the leader
>opponent surrenders thinking that they can, so I would have lethal
lel
>Waiting for a response
Why does havencraft players ALWAYS use so long to do their turn?
>>159189953
Get fucked aggro shitter
is jeanne anygood for heaven? or are there better legendaries
>>159190019
Go back to your dead general, teach.Sigh
>>159189891
Gilgamesh.
>>159190109
Jeanne is tech at best.
With all the bannermemes people should really evaluate using her more though.
I've been playing a bit, how's my deck?
Made it from scratch and I'm kinda new, only thing I know is that Dimension Shift is good.
>>159190205
What point is a 8PP card when you lose in the first 6 turns?
>>159190190
You meanGirugamesh
>>159189991
You mean runefags?
>>159189991
Its called thinking faggot
>>159190205
She comes out too late to deal with banner memes.
Her design is weird because she's an efficient card even at 8PP but she doesn't advance any wincons. You wouldn't play her in control match ups, and you wouldn't play her in aggro match ups. Maybe in some kind of trade heavy midrange meta she'd see use.
>>159189991
>>159190365
Control players have bigger brains so they have more to think about.
>>159190502
I might believe this if the meta builds for Haven and Rune weren't easier to play than half the aggro decks in the game.
>>159190251
Not sure how you're going to boost your DS and Rune Summoner with that many minions. If you're going this route, you'll need to go Destroyers instead; otherwise, put in more spells and take out creatures.
>>159190502
>tfw to intelligent to play aggro
>>159190251
You need more spells.
You want wind blasts, kaleidoscopic glows, and conjure golems. Take out the whirlwind mages, the arcane enlightenment, and the healers
Why all these card games have the extremely retarded "win x matches with y class" missions?
Why force you to play some shitty retarded class that's absolutely countered by the topdecks every shitter plays? It's so stupid
So is every class that isn't Runecraft just supposed to go fuck themselves when it comes to removing Haven's amulets?
>take 2
>enemy shadow has 2 mordecai and 2 lord of the flies
jesus fuck is this fucking constructed fuck that guy
>>159190864
Yup.
>>159190864
There's that niche odin dude. But yeah, that's why Haven is all over the place. Since you can't do a single thing against a Pinion>Aria>Birdsong curve
>>159190642
>to intelligent
If we change mordecai evolve to 7/7 "last words, summon a evolved mordecai", will shadow control be possible?
How good is Dragonsong flute in the meta right now? Is it solid in Dragon decks? or is it better to scrap it for finishing my seraph deck?
Where did all Elana go? Where did all the aggro go? Is fucking control sword and controlblood with TempoForest on AA.
I guess they got sick of all the bats and banners and decided to stomp them out.
Roach to 4 PP when
Why is the banner card considered a commander? Seems weird to me.
>>159188078
What about cropping every animated card and making a list?
>>159191432
Because the soldiers are inspired by seeing the banner
>>159191314
The flute is only good for memes.
>>159191305
>opponent has a board of fatties
>play and evo mordecai
>slam on one of the fatties
>mordecai dies and returns evolved
>slam on another till all of them but morde is dead
Haha, no.
>>159191432
It would be monumentally shit otherwise.
>Amulet gives officers +1 attack
>takes up a slot on board for officer/commander synergy
>>159191314
It's shit because it takes too long to do anything and hurts too much to play.
Yet I've won games off it occasionally in my tempo Dragon.
Is Vampire Queen a good card? Want to know if I can liquefy it
>>159191643
It's a good card but not in the current meta
>>159191643
LOL
Woo
Just went 3-2 in arena with an awful deck because of a disconnection
>Getting tired of facing Elana in ranked all day long
>Decided to join the bandwagon, made even better that all my free packs gave me everything I need
>Enjoy turning my enemies into the path of righteousness
>Get matched with an A ranked dragoncuck
>This happens
Is this what it feels like to be the cancer that is plaguing SV? Elana/Garuda is pretty dope makes me wonder why I didn't join in soon
>>159190707
>>159190595
I'll try adding in more spells, thanks.
Those cards >>159190707 mentioned to take out barely do much, except for the healers, they trade decently I think but I'll try a deck without them.
Why is this even allowed to happen?
>>159191305
Control Shadow's problem isn't power level, it's the meta. Like, forget the aggro decks, Shadow's got some of the best low defensive tools in the game, the problem is that other control decks can go for combo finishes on the same turn you put out your win con.
Traditional control is not in a good spot right now.
What's Overflow?
>>159191643
Too good to liquefy
But not meta friendly
There's a poster here who hates it
>>159191740
Because you weren't going to watch her dance otherwise
>>159191815
Literally answered itt faggot >>159187717
>>159191740
>No Themis
How did your hand get so full without any board presence anyway?
>>159191815
When dragon hits a certain amount of mana
IIRC it's 7.
>>159180074
This one
>>159191305
Its possible already.
>>159192027
oh goodness
Is Swordcraft good? I'm pretty close to the deck after unpacking yet another Otohime, and I got enough dust for a 3rd one too. No 3rd Saber though
>>159192113
Swordcraft is and has been one of the best classes in the game.
>>159192113
Two Aurelia and two Otohime is enough for a midrange deck. The only other thing you need is Tsubaki and golds to make it.
>>159192113
this isnt from a reroll is it?
Can I get a concede?
24766
>>159192113
Swordcraft has the secondbest cheap deck and the secondbest expensive deck in the game
It's good
>>159192113
>Animated Aurelia
My dick
>>159191643
It's only good in control blood and you need 3 of them, control blood is tier 3 right now because control decks without otk combos suck dick in the current meta, but that will probably change in a month or 2
>>159192260
No, I've been shitting it up with Storm Haven lately and I got 3690 vials for a legendary
>>159192150
>>159192301
I'll make it then
>>159192241
So I should craft a Tsubaki? I thought the Otohimes were the most important part of the deck
>>159191740
>Better player wins
I see no problem. You could have themis, you could have put some pressure, you could have cleared board, you could have put Aria, you are shit. A hand full of stuff, like a pussy.
>>159180074
The spell equivalent. Those are some serious childbearing hips
>>159192313
Will you hate me if I told you I got two animeated notSaber? I don´t even play Sword, they are just lying there untouched.
>>159192472
Make Tsubaki if you don't have 3 Awilda's. Otohime is the most important part but you can really get by with two and a lot of decks only use two.
>Undefeated in Arena session
>Game 4
>Lose to Enstatued Seraph
That guy had 1 HP left too
The game won't let me buy crystals. I press buy, it says loading, and the nothing happens.
Anyone know why?
>>159192704
I meant make 3 Awilda's before making Tsubaki. And meanwhile you can run Dance of Death instead of her I guess.
>chapman
>>159191964
>>159192498
I have themis, i just never drew it. My hand is only full because 2 sacred pleas just went off + a dingdong.
I'm lamenting the fact that the enemy gets 2 fucking elanas while I get none, even with 9 turns and massive card draw
b-but this tells me i don't need no stickin' "aurelia"
>>159192757
I saw that card for the first time yesterday and started shitting my pants when I saw what it did.
He was so close to getting it off too, used 2 speed up cards but couldn't quite make it happen before dying.
It probably isn't good though, if you can afford to skip turn 8 you probably would have won anyway I think.
>>159192937
There is a card that will grab if for you you know.
>>159190707
>>159191738
>>159190251
Swapped out everything you mentioned and added 2 wind blast, 2 kaleidoscopic glows and 2 conjure golems.
On a 3 win streak so far, this deck is pretty good.
>>159192773
on Steam or mobile?
I want to have fun, is face dragon fun?
Nature's Guidance is the core problem of Elf. The card needs to be removed for shit lika Tia and Roach to become even remotely balanced. No, not "nerfed", removed. It would still see play if they bump it to 2PP and remove the card draw, that's how overpowered the card is.
>>159193048
Seraph is actually fantastic. As long as you survive the turn you can just combo it off, and even if you don't you can just stall till it pops.
I don't know about its Take-Two viability though, but it's definitely a constructed powerhouse.
http://game-ai.jp/shadowverse/kuromatei-expression-mid-range-royal-sprint-bishop/
does this work well if i don't have otohime? any cheap alternatives?
>4 runehags in a row
>Still trying to beat all the Elite AI
>still stuck on Swordcraft
>she plays 6, count them S I X White Generals
>4 floral knights
I GET THAT IT CHEATS. BUT. ARE. YOU. FUCKING. SERIOUS. THEY EVEN BREAK CARD LIMITS?
Hey /svg/, just finished story mode and opened a bunch of packs. Any suggestions on what I should make deck-wise? I'm guessing Forestfucker since I got 3 Tias, but what else could I make effectively?
>>159193083
read carefully friend
>>159193227
Sword is the easiest ai, m8.
Is there something I am missing with Shadowcraft in Take 2? People regard it as the best or second best craft in Take 2 but I never go past 2 wins with it after playing it 4 times. (doesn't help that I always seem to go up against Haven a shitton only when I go Shadow)
>>159193168
Yeah I was meaning Take-Two when I said it probably wasn't good. I haven't even played a real ranked deck yet so I have no idea what's good or bad there.
tfw life as a non netdeck control shadow player with 5 8/9 drops
a rank is a fucking NIGHTMARE
>>159193187
If you don't have Otohime, you're better off just going bannermemes. She + sage commander is what makes mid range royal.
Just pulled an animated Olivia and wanted to field her. In what deck can I get the most mileage out of her?
>>159193187
Midrange revolves around Otohime since she's one of the best cards around her cost in the game. So no.
>>159193273
You were destined to play Forest, ton of stuff you can vial to make the rest of the deck.
>>159193291
Don't tell fibs anon, it's one of the hardest if not THE hardest.
Blood is the easiest because the AI can't into Vengence.
>>159193083
Elana can't be tutored, it's not a cooldown amulet.
>>159193168
Sometimes I think it's a bit too strong that you can just combo it turn 9 fairly reliably with the amount of countdown reduction cards haven has access to.I think it was balanced solely around the fact that they had exactly 4 pieces of art of her to work with.
>>159193298
It's a class with the most sticky followers and doesn't need many bells and whistles to work (Say, Forestcraft and them bouncing up and down. Playing Tia naked at turn 5 feels awful).
The other great class in arena is Sword, and both of them capitalize on board control.
>>159193424
Control Sword
>>159193424
Dont even think about putting my pure waifu in
you're dirty deck you filthy fucking virgin
>>159193402
>>159193436
Fine, I'll stick with the banners.
>>159193291
Maybe if you're some haven cuckshit with seraph sure. This fucking slut keeps shitting out Saber evo followed by Saber Evo followed by floral fencer white general followed by floral fencer white general followed by fucking otohime.
You tell me how you remove two 6/6s with ward and magic immunity followed by a 4/5 3/3 followed by a 4/5 3/3 followed by otohime and her cuck shenanigans.
>>159193396
How about you build a better deck pmsl
>>159193278
I swear she got them Elana´s for me. Guess I was wrong all along. I´m still keeping her for those heart pupils.
>>159193424
Control Sword, none aggro Dragon, earthrite Rune, control Blood/Shadow maybe? Mostly control Sword.
If I use Urd does the affected card gain their effects again?
>>159193586
She's keepable anyway because she fetches Arias and Sacred Pleas
http://game-ai.jp/shadowverse/kuro-type-aguronekuro/
>the only way to make dragon, necro, and vampire useful is just to go aggro
>>159193586
she's still an amazing card, but yeah, it's impossible for her to get elana. Definitely don't cut her thoughshe's actually my favorite card flavor wise, I love her art and voice
>>159193671
Necro's best deck has been aggro for months at this point.
So I already have Mid Range Sword made, and i'm like 5k from Control Sword, but i'm kind of wanting to make an aggro deck. Would Face Dragon be good? I already have 2 Forte, this is strictly for climbing the ladder while having fun.
>>159193273
kys
>>159193586
>not that gaijin accent in undub
I both love and hate her for that.
>>159193526
What class are you playing? I beat every elite difficulty with some garbage Swordcraft deck I made up in a minute so aggro is probably pretty effective.
Hand over your best Elana Havencraft deck oniichan
>>159193641
What do you mean "their effect"? On play effects like Hearthstone's "battlecry" and Shadowverse' "fanfare" only activate ON PLAY. Urd will only kill and revive the follower, so she only synergizes with followers that have last word and continuous effects like Forte.
>>159193798
Why not bannermeme it up and still have enough for control sword?
>>159193671
I still don't buy that list without any video showcasing it. He's selling Rise of the Dead too high when Haven eats Shadow for breakfast.
>>159193838
>not playing with the dubbad, bad, bad~!
>>159193798
Aggro dragon gets fucking destroyed by elf. Guess what the entirety of high rank decks are? Just go vampire like everyone else.
>>159193876
I think I am getting to the point where I might get triggered from this card. Too many goddamn Havencraft decks.
>>159193798
Might as well just make one more Forte so you can have decks for more than one class. There's only a couple of matchups where control is better than midrange anyway.
>>159193852
Bannermeme was what I started with and it can't keep up with her bullshit topdeck legendaries.
Now I'm just playing some fucking average beginner Swordcraft deck thats like generic value knights/officers and some commanders and doing like 15+ hp better.
>>159193947
I don't want to bannermeme because it's a meme
>>159194000
Honestly I would but I really don't like the style of the Blood cards
What are some other fun decks that climb well then?
>>159193969
>not liking "Hai, my homie!' and "Goodbye~"
The only good dub is pic-related, but she's a bae anyway.
>>159193947
Bannermeme is shit against real decks. Midrange royal is a more consistent version of it that doesn't run out of steam on turn 5.
>>159193594
>>159193502
Alright, thanks.
>>159193823
Well aren't you a ray of sunshine.
>>159194000
Aggro bats gets fucking destroyed by forest too. The combination of elf child may, millions of 1/1s, and ancient elf is just way too good at stealing tempo from the aggro decks in the early game
>slam my quickblader into a follower so I can drop banner
>win on turn 5
>>159194087
Hybird earthrite witch is fun af tbqh senpai.
>Lost last two Arena games
>Opened up my second and third Winged Sentinel Garuda in the packs I opened today
Slutcraft here I come
>>159193526
>ai plays aurelia
>he knows that ai plays aurelia
>still shits on board to give aurelia free immune
Wew.
>>159193876
same deck i link everyone asking this question
https://shadowverse-portal.com/deck/1.7.640Hy.640Hy.640Hy.63_oY.63_oY.63_oY.60COQ.60COQ.60COQ.60COa.60COa.60COa.67qgu.67qgu.67st2.67st2.67st2.61KvW.61KvW.61KvW.642Ey.642Ey.67sNo.67sNo.640Xa.640Xa.640Xa.67v3q.67v3q.67v3q.60E5y.60E5y.67sO6.67sO6.67sO6.645Pw.645Pw.645Pw.67xlY.67xlY
strong and cheap
>>159193969
>bad, bad, bad~!
I can't for the life of me remember which card this is
>>159194203
There's nothing that doesn't get destroyed by elf if they draw well. The class is broken, but at least vampire has a chance of ending the game early before Tia hits the field.
>>159192373
>otk
what did he mean by this?
>>159193876
https://shadowverse.gamepress.gg/deck/elana-havencraft
Havencraft is a bit slutty
>>159190251
D shift is one of the harder decks to master. And you need more spells.
>trying to make a midrange dragon deck that works
>always feels like when I win it's by the skin of my teeth
Despite that it's still more fun than face even if it shares a lot of the same cards.
I really like fafnir despite how slow he is.
So how is Elder Scrolls Legends?
>>159193424
Runedeck, now fuck off.
>>159194319
Haven slut that searches amulets.
>>159194368
I don't think you quite understand how bad the forest match-up is for aggro bats.
http://syadoreco.com/metareports/deck/16/week/all/2016/43/t/
It's their worst match-up besides control sword.
>>159194383
It seems mostly puritan, honestly, like they're all a bunch of prudes. Especially when compared to blood and shadow.
>Think of making Midrange or Control Royal
>Dont have enough Otohimes, Aurelias, White Paladins, Alexanders and Olivias
I guess this is what happens when I have spent most of my vials in the first place making Tempo Elf huh
>>159193278
>Nail bat
Very nice, got to see the art of all my cards now. Love it. Got so fucking sick of HS art.
>>159194490
Alright, jew on everything though, pay up if you want to have fun.
Can i play on mobile with my PC account?
>>159173201
She's so much fun though
>>159194658
You can link the accounts, yes.
>>159194510
Shit of course, I thought it was some bloodcraft girl. How could I have forgotten. I even play the damn class.
I want to ______ Erika!
What's a good control sword deck look like in arena, /svg/? I already started making one but I don't want to fuck it up any further.
>>159191735
>Garuda
>Healing cards
Wtf I this shity meme
>>159194756
Murder
>>159194756
I want to head pat her boobs.
Is Flame and Glass a meme card or can you make fun/good decks out of them?
I'm considering trying to make them in earthrite runecraft...
>>159194756
I used to hate Swordcraft but Erika's the hero this overly-aggressive ladder meta deserves.
>>159194773
Last time I had a controlling sword deck in arena I had 2x Aurelia and 2x Tsubaki. That was a fun experience.
Okay so I'm checking this game out now and have a few questions that I will list below. I have experience playing Hearthstone and MTG so I'm pretty sure I get the basics.
1. What is the hand size limit if there is one. Also, if there is a hand size limit and I am at the limit what happens when I try to draw a card?
2. Is there a reliable rule of thumb I can use to determine the midrange value of a card? For example in Hearthstone the rule of thumb is that a card should have stats that add up to [2 x (mana cost)] + 1 to be considered average (this is of course ignoring any special effects).
3. Are there any "noob trap" cards that look good but aren't for whatever reason?
>>159194490
Even more Jew than hearthstone, even more aggro than both hearthstone and SH combined. 2 lane system means you can't effectively combat aggro, and they will just go face on the lane you don't commit to. Very boring and forgettable cards.
YOUR EVIL DEEDS END NOWI SEE YOUR WEAKNESS
>>159194937
Hand limit is 9.
Yes, the vanilla stats of a minion go 1pp 1/2, 2pp 2/2. 3pp 2/3, 4pp 3/4, 5pp 4/5, etc.
I'd say Satan's the biggest noob trap right now.
>not playing undub
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w5dFO2109YA
>>159194490
It's about half way between hearthstone and shadowverse.
Gives more free shit than hearthstone, better arena rewards overall for shorter arenas, and has a couple cool mechanics that while RNG, keep the game at less overall RNG and with better RNG than hearthshit.
It's still pretty hard pay up early if you want good decks though. And after shadowverse's 3 dailies a day, the 1 daily a day just feels like shit.
>You will never protect her pout
>>159194937
>Are there any "noob trap" cards that look good but aren't for whatever reason?
There noob trap classshadow
I'm confused. I want it to be a her, but it refers itself as "Boku"A boku-ko is fine, mind you
That said, how am I supposed to use this card? I have been siccing the ghost at any 1 defense follower, but is face the better play?
So, since Control Royal is favorable against Tempo Elf, Storm and Elana Haven, most aggro decks, is it a good choice for climbing the ladder with even though it loses to Seraph Haven, PTP Elf and DShift?
Mainly because I see less of the latter three anyway, heck I cant recall the last time I saw a Seraph Haven
>>159194912
I once saw a DShifter use Flame and Glass....I really didnt see that coming at all
>>159195220
Seriously though why is Shadowcraft so popular? I never understood
>>159194937
Hand limit is 9, cards, your draw goes straight to discard if you go over.
On curve is [2*(PP)]-1.
Meta is in a weird spot. It's defined by a variety of control/combo decks that end the game on turn 8, so cards that come out then and don't win are generally all bad right now. Deck variety is high on the top tiers but very thin beneath that compared to most games, which has a lot to do with the game being young and having a tiny card pool.
>>159195186
OTOHIME-SAMA WO MAMORISHIMASUwhat do they say in the eng dub?
>>159195298
Shadow was really good before DE came out. Haven superseded it.
>>159195351
I
GUARD
OTOHIME
in very monotone voice
>>159195229
Yeah you can get pretty far with it. I use it sometimes and do pretty well. You'll pretty much win against every other Royal deck when you go 2nd too.
Anata no tamashii delicious kashira~
>>159195402
Was it though? Sure aggro shadow was a deck but that only rose to tier one near the end of the meta. Midrange Shadow hasn't been good since PtP emerged
>>159194937
>Hand size
It's 9. There's a counter in the UI to the bottom left (it even changes colors to yellow when approaching the limit, and red when you've got a full hand!). If you draw when you have a full hand, you discard.
>Value
Generally it's the cost x2, either +1 or -1 depending on the drop (1 drops for example are optimally statted at 1/2, 4 drops are 3/4, but there are some overstatted 4/4s at 4)
>noob trap
hard to say exactly, I guess people trying to play around with vengeance cards in Bloodcraft is kind of a noob trap. If you have a big card you want to include in your deck, just ask here, we'll tell you if it's a meme card or not.
>>159194937
1. 9, overdrawing makes the card you get scrapped.
2. Can't say for sure, because I care more about immediate board impact and how well they trade. But mana ratios should look like 1for1/1, 2for2/2, and so on.
3. Prince of Darkness/Satan, Lord Atomy, Fairy Princess.
>>159195426
Ok then, now if only I got more Alexanders, Otohimes and Olivias to work with
I suppose I'll stop buying classics and buy more DE packs then
>>159195298
It has a cute loli and a cool as fuck skeleton as its hero choices and its core mechanics are inherently fun to play with.
TOO SLOW
THIS IS OUR WAY OUT
>Bat dude disconnected 3 turns in
mad cuz bad lmao
>Cygames releases a voicepack of all the Japanese voice actors saying the English lines in Engrish
>Charges 500 rupees/crystals
Would you?
>>159195298
It's the least popular craft globally, it's only popular here. I think there's a combination of 4chan contrarian attitude, people wanting to bone Luna, and necromancy being hugely popular with the /tg/ portion of Shadowverse players.
>>159195339
>has a lot to do with the game being young and having a tiny card pool
Do you like young games with tiny pools anon?
Where can I watch dubs of Rage of Bahamut for free?
>>159195298
It's perfectly fine to play as long as you stick to the aggro variant. Cerb into Howl when you're at 11 life or less is no joke.
>>159195546
>Runecraft vs Runecraft
>5 minutes both of us are just drawing cards
>his hand is full and a card explodes when I make us draw
>he leaves as soon as it happens
I guess I killed his trump card?
>>159195865
I swear. I want to try that aggro variant that supports 3 of him. Too bad I don't have any yet and don't feel like crafting him.
>>159195630
Prior to DE it was the only viable aggro deck, and it wasn't even remotely as unpopular as Blood or Haven. Haven is Shadow's natural counter, it's only logical Shadow gets fucked when it's the most dominant on ladder.
New player, got this shit
What do you listen to while playing this game?
got otohime, alexander, and leo
so i guess its banner until i can build into a control deck right?
>>159196896
Eurobeat while playing garuda haven
>>159196946
Reroll desu familiar
>>159197342
i got other 2 legendaries and other golds but for other crafts but i was looking to play sword. is it really reroll?
>>159196735
bloodcraft is your calling
>>159197538
Which other legendaries did you get
>>159196735
RE-FUCKING ROLLLLLLLLLLL.
>>159197832
crystalina tia, queen vamp, and sun oracle.
I would have posted the whole pull but tis two pages and im only using my phone
>>159197890
>>159197683
I'm tired of this shit, hate this rng
>>159198127
Just pretend rerolls don't exist and play the game like a normal person.
Then you can slowly build your collection anyway.
>>159197984
Ehh It's not an awful start but it doesn't give you 2+ good legendaries for a single class
>>159198227
Drop rates for legendaries are surprisingly high especially if you're opening the free 30-40 packs. No reason to you shouldn't. It feels nice to have a competitive deck right away. But really, if you don't care and just play it normally that is fine too. Really comes down to how much fun you are having.
>>159198317
yeah its prob the best start for sword since i got leo as well. other rolls were one leg in 4 classes at best
>>159198648
If you have autism like myself you should reroll till you get something like 1x otohime and 1x aurelia or better, or you can enjoy the game without rerolling which is just a crazy concept.
>>159198730
yeah ill prob just burn cards from another class to get aurelia early
>>159194381
late reply because I beat my dick for an hour, but it mean One Turn Kill, you can take your opponent from full health to dead with one combo