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LET'S TALK ABOUT VAGINAS
So what are you all hoping to pull from you INOV Boxes? I'm gunning for most of a Chemicritter deck and hopefully Starve Venom or Requiem Dragon.
>>159050085
I just want the new red eyes stuff
>>159050075
Serena>Yuzu>Rin>Ruri
>>159050075
+1 filter
>>159050264
'struth.
what memes can we make with him in zodiacs
>>159050379
There literally isn't one because he doesn't inflict battle damage. You could have used Speedroid along with Zodiac Beasts to get him out, but guess what? Skill Drain is limited and is hardly sided anymore so he's not even a reliable counter to it. You're better using the Level 8 Coach Bear to get out Giantrainer for free draws.
Anyone have a good idea for a DDD deck that involves summoning Sophia? Seems like a good match since they have various extra deck monsters. You'd only need to add in a ritual monster to make it work somehow.
>>159049879
>tfw this monster is the only case in which Magnets have any sort of advantage over ABC
>>159050560
But Tierra is infinitely easier to Summon.
If you want to test agains Infernoid, don't set random AI. He will use Void Madness from hand and tribute those Infernities to banish anything from your grave for fun.
>>159050560
>You'd only need to add in a ritual monster
This is the hardest part and what makes using Tierra is better and easier.
>>159050879
The AI has to be programmed to use certain decks, otherwise when a card can be activated, it will be activated.
Most commonly, they Twin Twisters their own backrow right after setting them.
>only appear in 1 episode
>FOUR cards are printed because trainer can draw 3 (and random 0-2400 burn)
Where is my (obscure anime character that appear more than twice) archtype?
>>159051173
Or Destruction Jammer their own Mirror
>>159049879
Oh hey, it's you again. Congrats, your thread is finally being posted in :^)
>>159050752
+3500 LP
>>159051228
Now I want Bears' Boot Camp to be printed.
>>159050075
I don't like vaginas.I love boy pucci.
>>159051328
Is this the illiterate mexican that pitched a fit a few days ago?
>>159051548
or was it weeks? All those worthless beaners kind of blend together.
>>159050075
I just realized that technically the bracelet girls are all Reiji/Declans/Whatever you like to call him's sisters.
That's weird.
>>159050989
Sophia to me seems liek she'll get easier to summon as more cards come out in the future.
>>159051617
>>159051548
When Trump loses the rigged election, Imperion Magnum will be our last best hope against the wetbacks, with his grade-school levels of reading necessary to decipher his negation effect. No Mexican can even touch him
He'll make magnets great again
>>159050379
r8 material, ezy
>>159050379
Mix in Gadgets, Gear Gigant X, and some R8s.
>>159052312
but magnets were never great you fuckface
ABC masterrace forever
>>159052808
He'll make magnets great for the first time
>>159052880
Magnets need the rest of the Greek alphabet to even have a chance to be great
>>159052954
>mags team up with PSY
So how will they kill ABC? Dragon Buster, Union Hangar or will they pull a Tellarknight and limit Terraforming and ruin the game for the rest of us?
>>159053117
I'd bet on nothing, though from the options you've given, Terraforming sounds best.
>>159052880
>>159052954
the fact the fusion needs fucking Poly kills it instantly
you are also even supposed to run the old magnet warriors which are total shit
>>159053230
you're supposed to run delta
>>159053117
They just need to limit Hangar, then if that somehow doesn't works because other ABC variant still tops, they limit ABC and release Hangar.
But that seems too smart for Konami so they'll hit Terraforming and B instead.
>>159053117
Probably Union Hangar, but with the current trend of OCG, they might not even need to hit it with Zodiac fusing with everyone and raping all of those decks that don't ally with them.
>>159053117
Limiting Union Hanger so the deck literally dies to the wind. But I'd imagine that would do jack shit and some nip would mix them with Lightsworns since Minerva is actually affordable over there.
>>159053261
oh yeah
a card that should have been in the structure deck and will probably end up being a limited run in the TCG
this just shows how so much better ABC is
>>159053230
I know, that's why I said they would need a shit ton of support to even have a chance at being great.
>>159053326
People would start running Foolish and Brilliant Fusion to dump the pieces.
>>159053270
>but with the current trend of OCG, they might not even need to hit it with Zodiac fusing with everyone and raping all of those decks that don't ally with them.
ABCs made it so they didn't need to hit Dark Synchro or D/D/Ds, but they did anyway.
>>159053326
Lawnmowing ABC
>>159053642
Fund it
Guys
What aboutLawnmower Infernoid Lightsworn Burning Abyss ABC Zodiacs?
>>159053842
Remove BA and probably Infernoid and you've probably got a top
>>159053986
But then I lose my meme cred
>>159054036
You'd be topping with an unholy mishmash of shit. That will give you all the meme cred you need.
>>159050264
All combined.
Daily reminder to B U I L D W A L L
>>159050379
I take it nobody has ever tried to meme this into Speedroids due to it being worthless, correct?
>>159053842
REMOVE RAT
But the rest is fine.
I was looking at archetypes today and I realized I never really played blackwings. Are they still playable? Only thing I know about them is that they swarm a lot.
Alright lads I finally got an Ultimaya Tzolkin. What deck should I build around it?
>>159054978
nah
>>159055092
Not even in a petdeck kinda way?
>>159055045
Memefoes I guess
Man ABC is so fucking gay, how does it compare in term of power to other dominant decks of their format like Nekroz, Performages and Dragon Rulers?
>>159055228
Ignore /dng/ opinion on play-ability most of the time. If it's not meta it's unplayable trash. Blackwings are a fine petdeck.
>>159055367
Already powercreeped, if you can believe it
>>159055045
blue eyes with dragon core accursed
>>159055228
Especially not in a petdeck kinda way.
>>159055367
Pretty low desu, other decks top alongside it and it has even been powercreeped without being hit by the banlist.
>>159055613
>other decks top alongside it and it has even been powercreeped without being hit by the banlist.
You've described the OCG meta (and to a lesser extent, the TCG meta) for almost a year now.
DUEA 2 WHEN?
>>159050379
bullhorn search barbaros ur, rats xyz king of feral imps, imp search tyrant neptune, tribute king and barbaros and then copy imp so you can do damage.
it's not much but it's something
>>159055478
>>159055613
Wow fuck me, I just came back after a hiatus, decided to try out Metalfoes since it seems pretty fun and strong, and immediately got my ass handed to me by ABC. What new deck powercreeped ABC anyway?
>>159055790
soon actually with the new anime
>>159055948
Read Molmorat and Drancia
>>159055948
Zodiac Beasts/Xyz Solitare
>>159055948
What are some decent Metalfoes decks anyways? Been thinking about trying Metalfoes Yang Zings, but can't find a decklist anywhere
>>159056085
Just add Majespecters and Jowgen.
>>159056085
>decent Metalfoes decks
http://blog.livedoor.jp/yugioh_tpr/
>>159055790
The set after MAXC should be the first one of the new anime, so if it's gonna happen it'll be there.
>>159055430
I figured, but I wouldn't know where else to ask.
>>159055582
why though
>>159056887
Have you tried playing against AI_Blackwing?
That's you answer.
>>159056085
http://roadoftheking.com/database?deck=metalfoes
Here's some late Halloween fanart for you guys just because.
>>159057152
No, I forgot there was a blackwing AI deck, but I don't really expect an AI deck to be made well or to be played even halfway decent by some shitty AI.
>>159057152
I keep hearing people bitching about how the Blackwing AI is sacky and unfair, but in my experience the Blackwing AI is the third weakest after X-Saber and Battlin' Boxer (disconsidering the vanilla decks).
Why people bring the Blackwing AI in those discussions so often?
>>159055890
actually, it seems a little more impressive if you tribute invoker instead of king of feral imps and then stun hard enough to keep all your guys alive, since on the next turn you could do bullhorn to search another barbaros to use the other speedroid in grave, and king of feral imps to search another neptune, then tribute king and barbaros.
>>159057928
It always opens Black Whirlwind.
>>159057896
For your info, AI deck isn't built randomly by the one programming the AI.
Most of the time it's taken from some random tops, or maybe taken from other games, like Tag Force or something.
It should be good enough for your starting point.
And goddamnit try to play against the AI first before saying something like that.
>>159057928
They open crazy hand like two Black Whirlwind consistently.
It makes them seems more powerful than what they really is.
>>159050075
How about we talk about booties?
>>159054304
Anon, you have some great taste
What's the hardest AI on YGOpro?
>>159058903
The Exodia decks, I guess.
>>159058903
Pendulum Magican or Trains.
>>159057343
Nice
>>159058903
Pendulum magician, Blackwing, or Harpies for some god damn reason
>>159059134
>Harpies
Literally dies to Strike, BTS, Veiler or any other effect negation.
>>159057180
>all those decks with ~5+ cards banned in the TCG
Guess I should ask for a TCG friendly Metalfoes deck post INOV
>>159059661
Just change it yourself.
5th Eternal reminder that Red-Eyes is the best dragon bro.
>>159059661
unless you are mentally handicapped, you should find a way to fill in.
outside of duster and super poly, nothing tcg-banned really matters, and those aren't even key cards of the deck.
>>159059661
those are just goodstuffs that jewart banned to push new products
you can use other staples
>>159059878
YOUR ARCHETYPE IS SHIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIT
>>159059865
>>159059924
>>159059996
So why don't Metalfoes run Apex Avian like EM and Magicians did?
>>159057928
When it doesn't open with double Whirlwind it usually opens with set 3+, which is pretty much always a mix of Icarus and Fiendish Chains to play through. It just ranges from pretty annoying to suddenly dangerous at times.
>>159060067
fuck off blue-eyes, you're drunk
>>159060263
because they don't need to, they have better wincons that doesn't brick as hard.
>>159060614
oh I'm sorry, how many times has red eyes topped?
>>159058903
Majespecters.
>>159060683
at least it topped :^)
>>159060683
not him but once, kek lmao.
>>159060806
right, now red eyes can go and fuck itself
>>159060683
can I ask why you two broke out? I used to think that you two had a stable relationship
I've been on hiatus pretty much since the ban-list. Can someone give me a rundown of whats gone on since then?
>>159061440
Just play ABC orMadolchesand you'll be fiiiiiine.
>>159061628
The dream will never dieRat goes in everything
>>159062159
you're correct my dude
>playing ABCs
>terra into hangar
>surrender
lel
Welp, i actually made the deck, now to try it out
>>159062550
you should focus on radian for flavour
>>159062837
Why Radian? I dont know if im missing something but his effect isnt all that great compared to the sticky spider
>>159063147
flavour mate, being "multidimensional" and all
>>159062550
Why all the banishing stuff AND triple water front? Doesn't focusing on not letting stuff hit the grave make Waterfront kinda useless?
>>159059091
Here's an Ixtab by the same artist.
>>159063854
Here's an ixtab by a different artist
>>159063727
Ah gotcha. Im a bit slow. Just got off work
>>159063738
Waterfront because not everything goes to the banish zone because of the banish stuff. Plus the D.D. i can tribute my opponents monster, summon out a kaiju, summon out a D.D. crash the d.d., Banish the Kaiju and then Direct attack
Thats the plan anyway. I mean I did name the deck Banijus
make a card that will make lvl 1s great again
>>159064862
Lyrical Luwhatevers will make rank 1 great again
>>159064862
You're welcome.
>>159064291
Also Speaking of D.D. anyone know of any good decks that use them?
Also
>tfw your opponent banishes necroface from your hand using trishula
>>159064862
>Single Man March
>Continuous Spell
>You can Normal Summon 1 Level 1 monster in addition to your Normal Summon/Set. During your opponents turn: you can banish this card from your side of the field or Graveyard; Special Summon any number of Level 1 monsters from your Graveyard. Hard OPT
>>159065147
>tfw this could have been not shit
>>159064247
Serious question. Why do you keep posting that same image in every thread? Is that the only image you have or something?
Anyways here's your (You).
>>159065448
Here's your (You)
Well since everyones posting fanart
Would you a FemYugi
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dfkYmh_en20
Chimera Raff is actually pretty good.
It's effectively a 4.5k body with target removal and can float into re-fusion to revive him again.
Spino + Hydra (in hand or grave) is target non-destruction removal.
They seems to work better as beatdown rather than stun/control.
Which mean they're playable at best.
>>159065671
fuck off yugi, this is my general now
>>159065846
Fuck you Kaiba, At least I have friends
>>159065846
Serious question. Why do you keep posting that same image in every thread? Is that the only image you have or something?
Anyways here's your (You).
What do D/D/D need to be relavent?
>>159066224
Serious question. Why do you keep posting that same image in every thread? Is that the only image you have or something?
Anyways here's your (You).
>>159066224
Their structure deck.
>>159066279
>>159066120
FUCK OFF!!!
>>159065989
I can buy new friends with my money... and blue-eyes white dragon-shaped planes, tell me Yugi, can you do that? is that a no? yeah, that's what I tought, Kaiba 1, Yugi 0.
>>159063854
Thanks, anon!
>>159066531
Where's male kisara?
>>159065071
So, that's it? Incest birds will actually win and get away with it?
>>159066746
delete this
>>159066746
Found something
>>159067006
Never.
>>159067101
Lovely poouty face. moar male kisara
After seeing some anon spamming it i want to apologize for making this post
>>159065448
To be clear i didn't make the others.
>>159066224
Handtraps, more main deck cards and more extra deck D/D like Siegfried.
>>159066746
you mean him?
>>159067531
Yes moar!
Would you Use it? No i didnt make it I found it on Google
>>159067732
>Rank 5
>requires level 4's for mats
>>159067732
>2 level 4
>R5
What?
Man
I'm such a good player
>>159067793
>>159067824
Imma be honest. I downloaded it cause of the artwork and didnt pay attention to the effect
Here have something different
>>159067006
>>159067531
>same headband
>same skin tone
>same eye color
>same hair color and hair style
So are Sage and Maiden meant to be brother and sister or something? It reminds me of Daenarys and Viserys
>>159067732
>reptile deck
Uh, no.
>>159063854
cute.
>>159065147
>Only effect in the mangais "your opponent cannot xyz summon"
>Only effect it doesn't have irl.
Has there ever been a more obvious answer from Konami that the xyz wanking will never end?
>There are no Beast-Warrior-Type Gemini monsters
There goes my dreams of Catalyst Field Zodiac Beasts.
>wind witch players
>>159067982
>even with Maxx C giving them all the advantage in the world, Psyframe are still shit
>activate spark field
>opponent activates cosmic cyclone
>>159068838
>>159068838
>spark field
who?
>>159067006
>>159067531
>>159068340
Wish that they would explore the lore of the Eyes of Blue group more. Also we wish we got more synchro's for them.
Slightly less loli magician when?
>>159068615
you can try some meme build
Box of Friends on hand + Terrortop/Zodiac Triangle
Yadda, yadda combo
Get Woodland Archer to hand with Tenki through Tiger King
Normal summon Box of Friends, blow up with Drancia, get Driver + Labradorite, send to grave for Ultimeme
SS Woodland Archer, search for gemini monster, next turn you can go ham with that gemini monster
>Don't worry Anon, It'll only sting for a moment
>>159069083
It's a temple of people that protect a woman that happens to be a stand user. What is there to explore?
>>159069529
>>159069617
Where she gathered the other dudes. Did gaining Blue-Eyes powers give them the white hair+bllue eyes?
>>159069083
>Wish that they would explore the lore of the Eyes of Blue group more.
Same, but all we know so far is that they are a cult.
>Also we wish we got more synchro's for them.
Also this, what kind of ratio is 5 tuners(7 if you count the stones) to 2 synchros? Make 1 synchro dragon for each cult member.
Bonus points if they follow the template of Spirit Dragon and each have 1 floodgate effect, 1 negation effect and tag out into another dragon.
>Top or Triangle would be a 1 card Shock Master
REMOVE RAT
How much is Treatoad gonna be worth?
Is it gonna be enough to trade it for something cool looking?
>>159070017
It's already 70-90.
>>159069971
it's the future we chose, time to make a full powered bullshit something with rat top.
>>159070017
it's going for 70+ already.
>>159069873
if we force the lore we could asume that since I2 created 4 BEWD they where 4 people with said Kas in the past, ergo there where 4 human-blue eyes (Master, Sage, Maiden/Priesstess and Protector)
>>159070017
A kidney or two
>>159069873
They're probably just part of the same clan or something.
>>159070137
Oh neat I could get a Crystal wing for it and then some!
But isn't only super rare?
>>159070273
It's secret.
Same with Dimension Barrier
>>159070273
it's secret not super (and ultimate?)
>>159070184
>we could asume that since I2 created 4 BEWD they where 4 people with said Kas in the past, ergo there where 4 human-blue eyes (Master, Sage, Maiden/Priesstess and Protector)
Isn't Kisara the only BEWD spirit holder in the anime/manga but the Ka was passed to Priest Seto and then later Seto Kaiba in the future?
Also one of the cards got destroyed so I wonder which one bit the dust.
>>159070464
>BE get a new synchro that's an enraged corrupted dragon that represents the fourth one.
>Thanks to Molmorat bullshit, Terrortop alone is 2 r4 + Drancia
>>159070370
>>159070456
FUCK. I have unlimited luck so it doesn't really matter but I really only want it for trade fodder.
Also why did they hike it up all the way from the Japanese rare?
>>159070879
oh, yeah, let's play a game, guess how do you get 2 r4 + Drancia with Terrortop alone
Dont mind me, just posting fan art for everyone viewing pleasure
>>159071001
>Also why did they hike it up all the way from the Japanese rare?
Google the name of the company that runs Yugioh.
>>159071001
it's what we call the Dark Armed Dragon Effect.
>>159071001
>Triple Omega
I now have an excuse to post this
>>159071065
post F.L Wind
>>159070669
Or why not just retrain the 4th one into an effect monster which is treated as a BEWD on the field and grave so it doesn't break the 3 card rule which caused it to get torn up?
Oh wait, they already did that.
Now we wait for the 4 headed dragon.
>>159071034
Are you slow or something?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CzSxTv-FVTI
>>159071352
Here you go my good man
>>159071532
Felt like posting this.
>>159071536
I for one was expecting something viable, and not raping your deck with bricktastic cards like parent seahorse
>>159071536
Wow shit that doesn't get played due to inconsistency. Thank god japs have more sense that that.
>>159071739
>>159071937
The point is that many, many Rat degenerate combo is already discovered, posted, and done with.
http://roadoftheking.com/zodiac-beast
>>159072116
Blackwings look like they can pull off some extremely degenerate shit. What's stopping them from becoming meta?
>>159071532
Alt is so dope
>>159049879
Darklords need some anti lp or reverse burn card/s like D/D/D. Just dueled a dude that you could almost say killed himself burning all that HP. I understand using for godlike boards but they don't really have any. I really wish they deck was better because they seem pretty damn cool.
>>159072345
Black Whirlwind not being searchable and even then it feels like they'd be another Batteryman/Volcanic flavor of the month.
>>159072345
Using white cards instead of black ones.
>>159072345
they WHERE meta... twice.
like GBs, X-Sabers, Wind-Ups, Lightsworn, etc...
>What's stopping them from becoming meta?
Powercreep
>>159071536
I never said Tierra, I just said 2 R4 + Drancia through Terrortop alone
The answer is this card, it's meme enough but somewhat legit, you can access any attribute specific xyz with it
>Evilswarm Nightmare, Key Beetle = Vorse Raider
>Lightning Chidori = Nin-Ken Dog
>Bujintei Tsukuyomi = Bujin Hiruko, then you can go for Kagutsuchi with Hiruko searched by Bullhorn
it's such a fucking shame there's no level 4 beast-warrior monster, otherwise this meme combo would be better as you would be able to get 2 Treatoad without needing to send your Tiger Kings to graveyard
>>159072567
normal summon lucifer SS 4 mill 5 gain 2500
>>159072575
Pendulum retrains of these two as middle/high school age when?
>>159072345
They had their time in the spotlight, just like Gladiator Beasts and X-Sabers. The game just evolved past them and they couldn't keep up.
>>159072740
>Middle age
Fuck you anon, now I want them too.
>>159065846
Is FemKaiba as spergy as regular Kaiba?
>>159072740
>>159072805
One day Anons, Konami will one day give us what we want
>>159072805
I meant middle school age, like they've gotten older, but aren't adults yet. The cards are like 11 years old, so they wouldn't be middle aged by now anyways.
>>159072779
But I've been assured by this very general the game is dead.
What degeneracy could Rescue Cat do in the current meta?
>>159072979
They'd obviously have to have one with a high scale and another with a low scale. Maybe keep their burn/heal effects but buffed for one of their effects.
I mean hell, Crystal Beasts got support somewhat recently (though we didn't get it in the TCG for some reason), and Doriado got a pendulum retrain
>>159072693
>just summon lucifer!
ok bro, thank you for the conversation anyways.
>>159073094
1-card FTK.
C'mon son.
>>159073372
you made a worthless post and got a worthless reply, don't take it too hard
>>159073094
you can get 2 Uniflora and spam 3 rank 3 xyz turn 1
what rank 3 can spam rank 4? oh, yeah, invoker
you would be opening a pandora box, I think you could get a field of Ultimeme + Rafflesia + Evilswarm Nightmare or at least 3 different stun monsters with just Rescue Cat without counting the cards in your hand
>>159072996
Damn, I thought you were talking about them being JC.
>>159073540
all that with just ONE fucking rescue cat?
>Terrortop
>can no longer be used in xyz
>your normal summon of the turn has to be a speedroid
No need to thank me fellow purists
>>159073597
Isn't middle school junior high tho?
>>159073796
Yup.
>>159073796
Depends on where you live, but often:
Middle school is grades 6 through 8
Junior high is grades 7 through 9
>>159073747
what?
>>159071134
>Dark Armed Dragon was a rare in Japan
Holy fuck what
>>159065671
>>159065846
why are these better than the defaults
>>159072658
I'm going to gives you a hint anon.
You can do it without using that card.
Hint: Entity
>>159073650
I think you could get Exterio + Drancia + Gagaga Samurai to stop any attacks that could menace Drancia
>>159073650
http://www.lmgtfy.com/?q=ygo+rescue+cat+combo
C'mon.
>>159074443
Hint: Fuck off
I already know you can use Norden but Norden can't access attribute specific XYZ other than Bahamut Shark and it's more than likely getting banned next list, shut the fuck up
>>159074694
Not that entity.
And that normal monster bricks hard.
>>159074783
Hint: I don't fucking care
>>159075026
Clam down edgelord.
>>159075026
You clearly do you fucking autist.
Stop trying to back away from your own retardation.
>>159073540
If we go white cards there's also 1 card Sifr with card advantage.
>>159075391
>let me be an attention whore with the hint bullshit
>shit, people don't care anymore, guess I will call him a retard, :^)
>>159075495
who the FUCK are you?
>>159073819
Sphreez is best.
>>159075786
I request a Hi-Res version of this pic
>>159075531
>Oh no! someone is disagreeing with how stupid i'm being!
>WHAT? multiple people are disagreeing with my stupidity?
>They must all be the same person!
Please tell me how i'm just saying >n-not m-me ;^) in the reply to this, and how there can't be multiple people calling you a retard.
>>159075950
>multiple people
what?
what the fuck are you even talking about? are you spyralfag?
>>159076283
I was thinking about that whole SPYRAL argument when i made that comment, but no, i was one of the Subterror peop- i mean the one Subterror guy.
What i meant by this was that i'm not the guy he/you was/were talking to, but i am calling him/you a retard because he's/you're being a retard.
If you catch my drift.
Faggot.
>>159076283
subterrorfag was the one who was "special", anon
>>159076720
SPYRAL defense force of one spotted
>>159076939
subterror defense force of one spotted
you didn't even try to personalize it
>>159077086
Your mom is a defense force of one.
Faggot.
>>159076720
>>159076939
>>159077086
you both are shit
>>159049879
>ABC is at the top of the meta
>Magnet Warriors are no where to be seen and it's so bad that the Yugi SD is discounted in some stores.
I thought these decks were meant to be rivals, why the power gap?
Even the original XYZ and Valkyrion had a better even rivalry than this.
>>159077169
Are you implying that people usually have more than one mom?
>>159077369
"Your mom is a lesbian defense force of more than one" doesn't have the same ring to it.
Faggot.
>>159077208
the contact fusion thing and ABC Buster being so much better by banishing is the gap
no one wants Yugi's sloppy seconds
>>159077208
>so bad that the Yugi SD is discounted in some stores.
At least it's discounted, the local store of my place was selling them in packs 1 Yugi and 1 Kaiba, good thing one of the dudes of my locals was stupid enough to buy the Yugi ones.
>>159077208
Konami even knew that ABC would be better than the Magna Warriors.
>>159077208
Has anyone tried Lawnmowing Magnet?
Berserion pop 5 seems powerful, but I guess searching him is the hard part.
>>159077208
i have seen some really good magnet warrior builds in yugitube videos lately
>>159077474
"Your mom is a defense force of two" is better.
>>159077208
Yugi's cards will always be inferior to Kaiba, just like in the show
Managing asspulls and winning like him with crappy cards is up to you
>CaC Archetype
•Monsters can tribute themselves to summon Tokens with the same stats but any Attribute (This is a quick effect.)
•While they're in the Graveyard they either grant passive effects to all tokens you control or can banish themselves to activate an effect.
•S/T Support relies on controlling combinations of Attributes
>>159077208
ABCs never even pretended to want to do anything with XYZs beyond AtoZ existing.
>>159077957
Who else is she defending though?
>>159078015
Her lesbian couple.
>>159078168
Her couple? so she has 2 lesbians?
>>159077914
https://youtu.be/It8KiVfcq8c?t=822
>>159077994
would use in shoukanjuus
>>159078259
That's what I'm implying, yes.
>>159077987
>Managing asspulls and winning like him with crappy cards is up to you
Makes sense since the only time I've seen a Yugi deck beat a Kaiba deck was with floodgates or the Kaiba deck player had a lobotomy.
I just can't believe he has over 5 deck themes to get support and nothing is seeing use while Kaiba's 2 decks are meta and one already won Worlds.
This is the most one sided rivalry ever.
>>159078298
Why isn't he uses his electromagnet float effect when targeted/EP instead of immediately float in draw phase?
>>159078647
what does Yugi have?
- dark magician
- magnets
- exodia
- buster blader (kek)
- that shitty black luster soldier
the problem I see is his cards have over-complex effects/strategies compared to Kaiba's approach of "shit out a huge monster in 1 turn and curbstomp the opponent"
Unban when???
>the card that breaks zodiacs isn't perfect crazy rabbit waifu or qt tiger girl
>it's the fucking shota rat with a bucktooth and 0 atk/0 def
I'D ACCEPT ANYTHING BUT THIS
>>159079010
aren't envoy of the end/beginning his
>>159079270
At least that means the shota rat is the most likely one to get banned/ limited in the future.
>>159079010
Yugi's decks are:
Gaia
Kuriboh
Silent
Black Luster Soldier
Magician Girls
Buster Blader
Dark Magician
Magnets
Gadgets
Celtic Guards
Poker Knights
Phantom Beasts
Kaiba's decks are:
Blue-eyes
Dragon good stuff
Fiends and Viruses
Unions
I see what you mean, all of Yugi's decks work with over complicated combo which ends in a subpar monster or plays
Kaiba's decks are just tunnel vision to win.
>>159079474
Gaia and Kuriboh are both part of BLS. And they're collectively the worst of his decks that have gotten legacy support that isn't just a single card or two (looking at you Celtic Guard of Noble Arms).
>>159079010
his name is "lackluster soldier" tyvm
>>159079270
>>159079467
>Rat
>shota
I don't think you know what that word means
>>159079474
The funny thing is most of those have control or stun elements that don't do that well.
>>159079270
anyone else wish rat wasnt horribly degenerate so you could see what zodiacs are capable of besides being a splashanle terrortop drancea engine
>>159079270
>he doesn't like /ss/
>>159079270
>>159079467
shota is the reverse of loli you idiots
It's been almost three months since the last ban list came out, do you think we'll actually get a new list in November? Also, what are your predictions?
>>159079684
>make Nekroz and prove ritual can be good
>somehow fuck up BLS and even with a second chance they still couldn't save it.
What's even going on at Konami? They know the only way to make ritual good is search power out of the ass yet they waste BLS on mill power.
>>159079701
>>159079847
what world are you living in where ram and rat aren't shota
are you guys on the good stuff cause if you are hook me up
>>159079474
>Celtic Guards
that barely qualifies as a deck as there are only 3 of those fuckers
I tested them with the new Exodia support and are just crap
>>159079941
As dumb as Konami can be sometimes, I'm pretty sure they new what they were doing when the made BLS so bad, it gave them an excuse to give what was essentially a bad pack filler archetype high rarity cards so people had to buy even more cases to pull those solemn strikes.
>Toadally Awesome
>Blaze Accelerator Reload
>"A" Cell Recomposition Device (to an extent)
What other 1 card archetype revivers are there?
>>159079941
>tfw we never got a BLS vs Blue-Eyes meta
>>159080471
Saber Relection is alright. Currently working on Constellars now that we got Tempest in.
>>159079941
They didn't give a shit with the BLS support, as you can see from the way they randomly split the support into jank as hell ritual stuff (that was not only outdated by Nekroz' design but Gishki design before it) and even MORE jank Sacred Soldier bullshit.
>>159080649
a-at least the artwork is cool! >>159079684
>the year is 20XX
>BA has fallen into obscurity
>>159080153
Wiki says Rat is a gril
Ram I could see being a shota, but those are some feminine eyes
>>159080812
Wiki also says Inzektors are based on Kamen Rider series that came out after they were released.
Though honestly I could see it going either way, I'm just saying the wiki is hardly a reliable source for this.
>>159081021
there were probably older versions of kamen rider like a manga or something
wiki > "everything is a cute trap" retards
>>159080649
>as you can see from the way they randomly split the support into jank as hell ritual stuff (that was not only outdated by Nekroz' design but Gishki design before it) and even MORE jank Sacred Soldier bullshit.
They pulled the same shit with Red-eyes too.
The deck got support but it was just all over the place and just ended up contradicting itself into a mess of sheer unplayable bullcrap with how low the compatibility and consistency level was along with
>2015
>G E M I N I S
Red-eyes got fucked by its own MUH POTENTIAL lore.
>>159080471
>Alien revival
I'll believe it when I see it.
But fuck do I want to believe it.
>>159081371
I run a red eyes deck, but it is focused in burn damage
>>159081371
I treat that shit like a pure vanilla red eyes
>>159081220
No, they literally listed shit like a TCG original that came out in early 2012 as being a Kamen Rider weapon that didn't debut until 2013 because they are both axes. The wiki is a whirlwind of autism.
Besides, I understand where you're coming from because people shitposting about stuff like Effect Veiler is annoying, but Rat at least has some form of ambiguity instead of it just being fetish shitposters.
>>159081543
Veiler is a boy and the people who say otherwise are delusional.
Why doesn't The True Name work half the time on Pro?
>>159081765
Veiler is a girl and the people who say otherwise are delusional.
>>159081765
German translation says otherwise.
It's Effektverschleierin. The "in" at the end means it's a female.
>>159081765
>effect veiler as it appeared in 5DS
>>159082002
doesn't work, various languages have assumed different genders for the same card
>>159080471
>"A" Cell Recomposition Device
Quick question.
Since Recomposition is quickplay, that means I can chain its grave effect to something as long as it's in my main phase, right?
>>159082058
>that chest
it's a girl
Speaking of Effect Veiler, how good is the card right now?
You can hit the Gadgets and Ultimaya but that's about it isn't it?
>>159082058
Looks female to me
I think I went too far with this waifu shit
>>159080506
why not both?
they also both have chaos rituals that can use chaos form and have literally 0 synergy besides that topkek
>>159082472
Hit Tigres trying to attach Rat from grave.
Hit Bullhorn trying to search.
Otherwise it's pretty subpar.
GOSR is kinda better right now.
>>159082508
>Shek with no fodder
>no hand
>Soul Charge in grave
Why are Toons so great?
I swear they're the most fun way to play this game.
>>159082483
ok anon
This thing here along with that Predaplant dinosaur that fuses itself with bitches in hand is gonna get mixed in BA.
Fucking BA, absorbing the yu decks into them
>>159083278
Dante is Zarc
>>159083015
>implying I care about memegeki when playing about against the AI
>>159082689
>Dragon Master Knight is meant to represent the Ultimate Bond between Kaiba and Yugi
>the card is shit
>both the Fusion mats are the worst cards from each respective archetype
>the only way the archetypes have any synergy is because Konami needed an excuse to nerf a ritual from Blue-eyes
What did they mean by this?
>>159083425
you should, the ai always has it in hand
>>159083425
>playing against AI
That's the reason you should care about Raigeki.
AI always draw it for some reason.
>>159083278
cool idea anon i buy it
>>159058903
>>159057928
>>159057152
What would you guys think about making our own deck and make it's AI to practice with? It could be a fun community project no?
>>159083941
like the smogon's create a pokemon stuff? where they throw ideas and then balance them to get a mon that can be placed in without trouble.
>>159084151
tfw was the guy that gave the water/fire squid its ability
>>159083941
you'd just give it something beatdowny like kozmo minus the quick effects
>need a ton of cards for a madolche petdeck
>up to $300
why
>>159079270
Dracina is a BIG girl.
>>159084304
The worst is when you can buold an entire deck for ~30 bucks but that one fucking card more than quintuples the priceI'm looking at you Omega.
>>159084304
Madolche has basically become goodstuff.dek ever since people started splashing everything from speedroids to instant fusion into the deck. Also Invoker saw a pretty big price spike recently.
I'm a broke ass motherfucker. Do you think bujins would do me well in locals, considering they're cheap?
>>159082508
>old hag
>waifu
lol
>>159079474
>All the Yugi cards that became decks.
>Kuriboh's never got to be their own full deck.
>Egyptian Gods didn't become one.
>Silents were cheated.
What a waste.
>>159084304
>frog shit picked for a while now
>barrier and AWSUM are $70+ and rising
yeah, no.
>>159085132
>>159085132
shit, I meant to type brilliant fusion.
>>159083278
Wait why do you say that
>>159085156
depends what your locals plays, but its pretty petdeck at this point
>>159085424
Don't really care about meta. There's one guy that plays Kozmos, and one guy with a half-decent Blue-Eyes deck. But other than that it's mostly high school students and shitters.
>>159085413
>If you use a monster with a Predator Counter as a Fusion Material, treat it as a DARK monster. During your Main Phase: You can Fusion Summon 1 DARK Fusion Monster from your Extra Deck, using monsters from your hand or field and/or monsters your opponent controls with a Predator Counter as Fusion Materials, including this card. You can only use this effect of "Predaplant Sundew Kingii" once per turn.
Gee, anon. I wonder why
>>159085490
would probably work fine then, you want cards like strike but you could swap those for cheaper options. just run lots of floodgates. don't expect to win with it against stuff like abc if you ever see them though.
>>159085156
You'd have a lot of fun with them. Ties of the Brethren really helps the deck and they can still beat some modern decks every now and then.
>>159085046
I feel you man, I feel you.
I think your best hope if you're looking to build a pet deck that has expensive cards is to go to a couple different locals. Usually, or at least in my experience, there's some people there that don't know how much cards are worth at all, they just judge off of shininess. You know the ones, the ones that always say some trash card is "broken" or that the meta is garbage. The ones with that amorphage deck or dragon deck or some other garbage, convinced its OP and that they're an anime protagonist.
But I digress. Long story short, often times its easy to trade them stuff that has almost no monetary value but in there eyes is absolutely priceless, all for expensive cards they might consider trash.
Doing this I was able to trade for a whole satellarknight core last weekend, completely foiled out too for the equivalent of $15.
>>159085804
I'm testing them out on Percy right now to get a feel for them. They're very fun.
I didn't even think about Ties, though. Good idea, anon.
>>159082689
If we wanted to give DMK a retrain that isn't shit, how would we do it? Make it so that it can also be contact fused and requires more generic materials?
>>159085046
>Want to build D/D/D cause I've been playing them online since DOCS support.
>Already own everything already out.
>Waiting for structure deck.
>Crystal Wing and Omega's cost a limb each.
Fuck this.
>>159086087
Omega is the real problem, Crystal Wing is gonna go down because ABC doesn't use it.
>>159085758
So proc an effect and get out the pred fusion? Is that it or am i missing it
>>159085983
>They're very fun
>helmet is fun
How in the fuck? Is there some magical way to make Bujins actually enjoyable that I'm just not aware of?
>>159085854
>>159085046
Also, don't try to trade at regionals or other big events too much. Yeah you can find some hard to find stuff, but 90% of the time either A) someone is trying to rip you off or B) they only want cash
>guy has a playset of ulti power giants for trade
>I'm a little interested in them because there's a player at my locals who wants them and asked me to look out for them
>Guy says they've dropped a little, worth "only $10 a piece" but says he'll value them at $8 each for me
>casually search them while still looking through his binder
>I can buy them online for $2 each
>mfw
>>159086385
>le buzzword ecksdee
>>159086082
Make it a 4000 atk monster that floats into a BLS or Blue-Eyes in grave(ignoring summon condition) that can be either summoned by contact fusion in the field or with poly from both hand or field, and the materials being a BLS monster + a Blue-Eyes monster
>>159086282
>You can Fusion Summon 1 DARK Fusion Monster from your Extra Deck, using monsters from your hand or field and/or monsters your opponent controls with a Predator Counter as Fusion Materials, including this card
>and/or
>or
>>159085983
Kaiser Colosseum also works for them.
Oh wait.
>this thing isn't actually all that hard to even summon
>has the most amount of cards in the game which specifically name him
>also is one of the most supported cards in the game
>is still shit
Worst protag ace monster or does Neos still hold that title?
>>159086610
>Kaiser Colosseum
Why was this card banned again?
>>159084151
No, I mean like how we have all said cards we wanted and made a shit deck. But this time we deck a deck that we all want to represent us, like Buster Blader for example, and build it and give it a crazy good AI.
>>159084272
No it would be whatever we deem fit us as a general
>>159086664
Kaiju rulings.
>>159086664
Stormforth and Kaijus interactions caused too many ruling errors.
>>159086385
>helmet can't be fun
>only combo-wombo masturbation shit can be fun
>>159086816
I never claimed the latter, and the former is just a fact.
>>159086728
Is there someone here that can code the AI?
>>159086982
But that's, like, your opinion man.
>>159086662
Wasn't Flame Wingman Jaden's ace?
>>159086664
People says it's because Kaiju.
But we will never get any official or semi-official answer about that.
>>159086993
Not sure but hopefully we can find someone or a group
>>159086656
fug forgot pic
>>159086664
ruling issues with kaijus
>>159086795
>>159086805
>>159087120
>>159087129
which issues in particular, i wasn't playing at the time of its banning.
>>159086662
black magician will never be non pet
>>159087098
It doesn't fit the stat distribution of a MC ace, so I guess not. Though Flare Wingman does, and he isn't counted, which is a shame since it's far better than Neos.
>>159087098
No. It doesn't have the level or statline.
>>159086664
>>159086795
>>159086805
>>159087259
>>>>TCG ONLY
TEWART MY BOI
KAISER WAS MY PETDECK CARD FUCK YOU
>>159087467
But figuring out rulings is hard anon.
>>159087578
you know konami actively dodge any issues like this. I sent them an email that was worded and they never responded.
>>159087129
I don't really know why you want to waste 3 level 5 monster to summon it when you can make something like Machu Mech, Volca, Durendal, or Freezadon into Crystalzero Lancer.
>>159087742
They will either respond you or respond you and mocking you in the FB, aka the only place they give a shit.
>>159087259
Something about summoning Kaiju to opponent's field when you both have same monster in field I guess.
Kaiser Colosseum is barely used in competitive scene so the ban comes out of nowhere.
>>159085804
>>159085983
Post dicksplease
How do I Destiny Hero?
>>159087848
it was via email, i dont want to post on facebook, nor do i even have facebook.
>>159088112
as an exodia engine
>>159088242
And that's why you never got your answer anon, as I said, they only give a shit about their little Facebook group.
>>159086982
>and the former is just a fact
But anon, I have fun playingStellarknights, because I like their art/theming and loved Constellars.
>>159088112
Send as many D-Hero to grave with D-Draw, SS Angel to opponent's field, summon Heartlandraco, activates Kaiser Colosseum, then attack directly until game.
>>159088112
>as an exodia engine
>make entire archetype
>give it three boss monsters and a fusion of two of them
>is reduced to a draw engine / DDT
>>159088506
yeah konami are shit honestly. I wish there was a card game as good as yugioh that appealed to me.
>>159087996
you shouldn't be able to, right?
>>159088602
Konami OCG is pretty cool, we're suffering because we're stuck with Tewart, Julia and a bunch of other faggots.
>>159088746
>Konami OCG is pretty cool
Proof?
>>159088571
nah nah, its triple lvl 8 d hero destiny draw, trade in (with blue eyes and cards of consonance)
>>159088746
>it's the year 2020
>tewart is still in office
>dante is still at 3 and meta
>>159088818
They don't have fucked up rarities, make cool events for new decks/packs, also the game is way cheaper here and there, add to that how you can use TCG cards over there but you can't use OCG cards over here.
>>159086558
the best monster that can put Predator Counters on the opponent's monster is Dionaoea, otherwise you're just fusing for Rafflesia with your own monsters
>>159088847
Which is a draw engine is it not?
I'm pretty dam sure I've never heard of Destiny Heroes being used competitively outside of as a draw engine or DDT way back
>>159088746
i agree with this statement
>>159089109
oh yeah, wasnt reading right.
>>159088987
>you're just fusing for Rafflesia with your own monsters
Yeah, dude. In a BAPK deck in which 90% of the level 3 dark monsters have effects that trigger in the grave. Not to mention, Rafflesia will banish an opponent monster.
You are basically normal summoning a 2400atk thing and also using an effect as a bonus
>>159090569
... you specifically talked about the and/or line, the one with the slash, implying you were talking abou the super poly effect, you fucking retard
>>159090707
don't be a player hater man, just ignore the mexican retard and move on
>>159090707
No, I was implying it wasn't needed to use an opponent monster with a counter to summon it. Hence the splashability
>>159088036
>>159091028
Thanks anon. Though, is it really such a good idea to not have any Strikes or the like?
What cards can search Descend Dragon Magician? I know Pendulum Call can be are there any non-limited cards that can do the job better? The card isn't on the wikia otherwise I would have used what they said.
>>159091675
magical abductor and majester paladin
>>159091675
http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Dragoncalling_Magician
baka
>>159091675
Why do both Pendulum Call and Wisdom-Eye Magician have to be limited? I don't mind having 1 Pendulum Call/3 Wisdom-Eye or 3 Pendulum Call/1 Wisdome-Eye, since they don't work well together, but why limit both?
>>159091675
skullcrobat joker, insight magician, dark renewal
>>159091876
>>159092135
Oh thank you, I didn't think of some of those.
>>159091919
I didn't know they renamed him from his ygopro name. Sorry.
>>159092073
I have no idea, it really doesn't make sense. Why couldn't Monkeyboard stay at 1? Why neuter Pendulum so hard? Nice captcha too, but if it's closed even more will swarm here.
>>159092073
Because PePe/EmEm is too scary
>>159088668
The wording on Kaiser seems to say that its effect only affect the opponent, so you should be able to place monster on his field.
There's also this UDE ruling.
>While you have "Kaiser Colosseum" on the field, your opponent can Tribute Summon, if after the Summon they will control less or an equal number of monsters as you do.
>>159091675
Something from every wiki card tips page.
>Dogu, Single Purchase, Transmodify, Painful Escape.
Something that's never on wiki card tips page.
>Ring of Peace
>>159091919
>Miscellaneous: Female
Oh my.
I didn't notice that chest on percy.
what was his name again?
>>159093274
Darklordally Lucifawesome
>>159093274
i still think they could've gotten away with nephilim and midrash
they got away with shekhinaga
>>159089109
teledad?
>>159093274
Archlord Ailin.
>>159094162
for the same reason anything on the Red-Eyes family won't work with Red-Eyes B. Chick.
J A P S A R E C R AZ Y
>>159094479
japs?
you got it wrong, it's KoA's fault by making lazy translations without hindsight.
>>159094837
come one, just look at this little fella and tell me why he can't have レッドアイズ on it's name.
>FIRE Eidolon ends up being great
>Splash Summoning Magic and Weird Al in Infernoids
>If they both get milled, use Snow to banish Weird Al, then Summoning Magic to add him to the hand
>It'll be Level 7, as there isn't a Level 7 Eidolon, but there is one for 4-10, so it won't clash with the summoning conditions of the noids
Please make it good, Komoney.
Konami should just make a rule that you can't affect your opponent's cards during the first and second turn for the next YGO.
Not even the banlist can save this game from no fun allowed anymore.
>>159095464
>splash in Infernoids
>not Metalfoes
>>159095517
>OTKs are now allowed to go off unhindered because your plays can't get Veiler'd/Ogre'd/stunned in general
You'd be a perfect employee at Konami with how little you think
>>159095464
>banishing your infernoid
>need to mill Al, Summoning Magic, AND Snow
>>159095736
What do you propose as a good fix then
>>159095679
Infernoids enjoy the Graveyard and already banish themselves.
If you're arguing that volflame could make R7NK with it, Seitsemas is a 3 of, too.
If you're arguing putting them in metalfoes because they're both fusion archetypes, then what is Tierra?
>>159095737
>Implying that's unlikely with a card existing that mills 20+ on your first turn
>>159096007
you git gud, scrub.
>>159095736
>People can't use cards to stop battle damage/battle phase if it become necessary.
>>159096156
Why would I fill my deck with that shit? I'm not an Exodia player.
>>159096039
I'm arguing it because foes are better
>>159096039
That's the problem.
You needs your infernoid to summon your infernoid.
>>159096281
Do you understand what context means?
>>159094060
I was thinking of Malicious when I said that, but yes it appears I did forget Malocious's usage for synchros
>>159096343
>foes are better
not by current toppings in the ocg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lIyfmxTGLds
>>159092913
Our guy had a bigger harem than I thought.
>>159096281
>>159096398
This (and you) is assuming the only possible way to get Weird Al and SM is by banishing Weird Al with snow
>>159096545
Are you using RotK's unstable charts as support?
>>159096759
obviously
>>159096679
C'mon anon.
All calculation say that Metal can use it better than infernoid.
>>159096545
I'm kind of glad honestly. Since our fire psychic pendulum friends aren't considered as good, the high rarity monsters that are coming out this weekend should be easier to get hold of, if not cheaper.
Also, I'm curious what konami is going to smack with the banhammer soon, whenever the next banlist will be that is. The format has been so diverse up until ABC, albeit with metalfoes, majespecters, BA and blue-eyes being prominent. Considering how splashed majespecter raccoon is I could see him getting semi-limited, vanity's being banned (mainly due to all the complaining), dante finally getting smacked (if they have the balls to do it) and something from blue-eyes being hit since they're finally finished shilling them. Possibly other staples could get hit too, such as solemn strike or anti-spell. I don't know though honestly, that's just my best guess. Also, maybe we'll get lucky and see some stuff from duelist alliance finally come back off the list to promote the new support some archetypes are getting, such as ulti-cannahawk, construct, shurrit or unicore(although that one is more wishful thinking than anything)
>>159096912
It's not a matter of consistency, it's a matter of cause and effect.
You can run maybe 3 Als and 1-2 SMs and not feel like you've lost chances to open well in noids, but if you run 3/3/3 for getting Al/SM in Metalfoes, you're cutting out quite a bit of resources that you might have needed in order to create a lackluster Metalfoes deck, or you're cutting consistency by making it over 40 cards.
Infernoids already banish themselves like crazy, why would you want to give up any of your pendulum resources?
Either way, this all comes down to the effect of the fusion itself, which will probably end up being burn or some shit like that.
>>159097405
>should be easier to get hold of, if not cheaper
And then, if the OCG triangle was any indication, help to deal with the ABC threat
>>159097405
i'm also counting on them flopping, i don't want to spend that much into just an alkahest and a couple of mythrils.
>>159096759
>Using the old unstable chart
For shame, anon.
This CLEARLY shows that NOIDS are T1
>>159097912
I'm honestly still more impressed that Zodiac is near fifty percent. Only a two day period, but man. At this rate, I'm just waiting for when they reach seventy-five to eighty percent.
>>159098207
mfw e-ban rat
Would the EARTH Eidolon Beast being a vanilla be okay if his ATK was 6000?
>>159097407
Metal lose nothing from banishing Metal in grave while Infernoid loses resource they needs to summon their own infernoid.
Unless the Fire Eidolon is better than, say, Onuncu or Deyvaty, then you won't ever want to splash it in noids.
Meanwhile, Metal can use it effectively. Painful Decision can put fodder for free, sometimes you'll fuse from hand with Fullmetal Fusion, and you can even use your dead fusion as fodder.
Running more than 40 card is never a problem in metal anyway.
But if Fire Eidolon doesn't have some sort of stun effect, they won't use it though.
>>159098404
It would still die to a stiff breeze, so no
who is this fire eidolon everyone is talking?
>>159097912
Let's check the first page of yugioh_tpr like RotK does so we can have an updated report.
Zodiac Beasts 11
Metalfoes 6
ABC 5
Infernoid 4
Blue-Eyes 2
Lightsworn 1
Kozmo 1
Monarch 1
Darklord 1
Yang Zing 1
>>159098636
Update your percy.
>shit art
>tier1 out of the gate
>Xyz solitare
Zodiacs can fuck off and die
>>159098659
>Metal > ABC
>>159098636
It's Ifrit, because Eidolons are an obvious tribute to FF Eidolons, amirite?
>>159098636
It's not out yet/at all.
>>159098609
Merkabah is the stun, Caligula too, to an extent.
There isn't a burn, S/T remover or a recycler, so if it's any of those, i think Infernoids could use it well, especially the S/T remover.
>>159099001
It's gonna be D'Arc.
>>159099001
Fire Eidolon will either burn or destroy. Maybe even both at the same time.
>>159098659
>>159097912
Remember when Toadally Awesome made Frogs relevant?
>>159098852
>Xyz solitaire
>Xyz summon 4-6 times is solitaire now
You don't know true solitaire.
>>159098207
I don't, when the deck was revealed people were doing a ton of videos with combos and saying how Rat alone made the deck ridiculous, also if you added Terrortop you could have an amazing engine that didn't take your normal summon.
>>159098609
>>159099001
Another thing i thought of when mentioning Merkabah is the other fusions that either deck could go into.
Infernoids running Lightsworns and Snow could easily go into Merkabah, and have no trouble paying his negation cost.
Metalfoes could make Raideen with Bunbuku, but losing an Eccentrik to make Merkabah would be a hard sell, that and constant use of his effect would cost resources.
I suppose either could make Caligula fairly easily, but i'd think that wouldn't be the best thing for either decks.
>>159099335
I'll go through 10-12 XYZ doing this.
>>159099498
You forget this.
And Ghost Ogre.
Speedroid Zodiac Beast is so common that might as well that be the pure build.
>>159099335
I hate Synchro decks, I'm glad Konami shares my hate for them.
>tfw your desperation move pays off
>>159099824
It's as common as Blackwing Maje Metal.
And people already know that the engine will be splashed in Zodiac anyway. 6-card combo starter is as consistent as ABC opening Hangar.
Which means consistent as fuck.
>>159099726
I stand by what i said about the loss of resources in Metalfoes being a deterrent to summoning Merkabah.
He's a walking Ultimate Providence.
>>159099969
did he really just try to alsei the opabinia
>>159099667
>ZA WARUDO
>>159100149
It's only discard one. Doesn't hurts that much and can also makes combination live.
And noid usually run out of hand to search Lawnmower anyway.
>>159098404
he only exists to punch for damage so yeah, he'd be better with any extra amount of atk.
>>159099667
That's because of Lightsworn and you know it.
>>159099667
Mind sharing the decklist?
>>159100421
True. Though without Hiruko none of that would be possible.
>>159093274
>>159093952
what is his tcg name going to be?
>>159100525
>>159100248
He kep trying to use monster effects on the paleos during the 3 duels of the match.
This shit doesn't surprise me anymore.
Easily 8/10 people I duel do that. I can't tell if it's just stupidity and/or frustration/desperation.
>>159100526
>still not imported
TEWAAAAAAAAART
>>159100615
Is there a /dng/ gamble.dek? I remember seeing a list a long time ago but never made it.
>>159099960
it's shitters like this why we can't have nice things like non hexproof metas because of castel & lightning
>>159100937
As much as I love The Lighting, XYZ was the worst thing to happen to this game.
>>159100878
I think I got this one from here long time ago. Not really sure.It's shit though.
>>159101548
Is it possible to make a working coin flip deck with the gamblers?
>>159101437
But XYZ is shit.
>>159101657
use Dat Six x3, discard anything that has a negative effect with a 1 o 6
>>159101708
Gomen, Ekushīzu
I thought dueling network closed down.
>>159101708
What about now?
>>159100289
>mfw no tcg za warudo deck
>>159101820
>released on 2011
>That Six released on 2014
Fucking future proof man.
>>159102191
>>159101820
It's hard enough to make a gamble deck with just coin flipping, but to have dice rolling too makes it impossible.
>>159100615
the fuck is scrap-iron statue for
why don't more people run this anyway? it's like pot of desires right?
>>159102454
Revive Junk Collector to copy Reversal of Fate.
>>159102454
Summon Scrap Collector from grave, to banish it and Reversal of Fate in case Za Warudo hits Tails.
>>159102454
http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm29934061
>>159102519
>50% chance to go -3
>>159102519
Only in Silent Magician draw mill ft. Appropriate.
>>159102519
Here's your (you)
>>159102714
Don't flip tails then
>>159102714
They cards you miss out on weren't in the game state anyway, so it doesn't matter if you go -3.
Since Dueling Network is gone, Konami should make some cards that are a pain in the ass to implement on YGOPro now.
>While this card is on the field, you can control up to 6 monsters.
>>159102863
>opponent's hand
>not in game state
>>159079941
The cards are made for an old meta. They took too long to get the movie deal going and ended up with this crap.
>>159102954
Neither deck is in the game state so it doesn't matter if either of you draw or don't draw.
>>159102914
>this coming from the website that had trouble implementing pendulum.
>>159103048
>opponent's hand
>>159102519
>play this at locals
>explain to my opponent: "basically, heads I win tails you lose"
>he says okay
>flip tails
>he reaches for his deck
>call a judge over
>tell the judge that we agreed to him losing if it landed on tails
>judge sides with me
>>159103182
Do you draw cards from your opponents hand?
>>159103268
Do you not?
>>159103268
Do your opponent's draw cards into your opponent's deck?
>>159103414
Now we know the next archetype
>>159103550
>meta becomes stealing cards at random from the hand
>everyone runs it so everyone ends up stealing cards that steal more cards and it's like forceful sentry on mega roids
>>159103262
>Playing against BA
>Summon dweller, activate effect on their turn
>Opponent tries to chain breakthrough skill in his grave
>Tell him cooly that breakthrough skill can't be activated as a quick effect in grave
>Mfw he believes me and mills a scarm, cir and graff on his turn for no effects
>>159103262
>argue that I'm saying Okaih, which means "no" in ancient indian language
>brought ancient indian tablet for proof
>convert the judge into hindu
Will anyone play a match with me?
>>159103752
yes
>>159103752
Sure but you might hate me
>>159103550
Their Upstart.
>>159103826
>>159103861
Okay, I am hosting.
>>159103268
What game are you playing?
>>159104047
Yu-Gi-Oh! in the year 2020
>>159104047
Yu-Gi-Oh!: The Poket Gathering
currently playing a Darkrai EX feat. Dante and Poison counters
>>159104340
I hope the cards are blurry.
Retrain uuuuuuuuuuus.
>>159106438
It's actually weird they haven't been retrained/given support already, especially Gate Guardian.
I'm sure next year they'll get something
>>159106438
>>159106774
Speaking of giving support rather than retrains made me think of what if they gave things that accelerated the number of turns for cocoon, and then made PUGM go into something afterwards, or something in the way of buffs that made the card any good
>>159106438
>completely ultimate great moth
>once per turn during either player's turn, you can discard 1 card from your hand; banish 1 card on the opponent's field
>>159106993
let it banish things in the grave too, like the new D/D/D contract or kozmojo
>>159106438
>12 turns of protecting two shit cards for a vanilla monster that needs to be in your hand
>>159106438
Water Fiend - Suijin
[Monster|Effect] Aqua/WATER
[Lv7] 2500ATK/2400DEF
You can Set this card from your hand to your Spell & Trap card Zone as a Spell Card. If you control a face-up "Sanga of the Thunder" monster or "Kazejin" monster, you can activate this card; Special Summon it. During your opponent's damage calculation, you can reduce the ATK of a monster attacking this card to 0. If this card is destroyed on the field and sent the the Graveyard: the original ATK of all face-up monsters your opponent controls becomes 0.
Wind Fiend - Kazejin
[Monster|Effect] Spellcaster/WIND
[Lv7] 2400ATK/2200DEF
You can Set this card from your hand to your Spell & Trap card Zone as a Spell Card. If you control a face-up "Sanga of the Thunder" monster or "Suijin" monster, you can activate this card; Special Summon it. During your opponent's damage calculation, you can reduce the ATK of a monster attacking this card to 0. If this card is destroyed on the field and sent the the Graveyard: the original ATK of all face-up monsters your opponent controls becomes 0.
Empowered Fiend - Sanga of the Thunder
[Monster|Effect] Thunder/LIGHT
[Lv7] 2600ATK/2200DEF
You can Set this card from your hand to your Spell & Trap card Zone as a Spell Card. If you control a face-up "Suijin" monster or "Kazejin" monster, you can activate this card; Special Summon it. During your opponent's damage calculation, you can reduce the ATK of a monster attacking this card to 0. If this card is destroyed on the field and sent the the Graveyard: the original ATK of all face-up monsters your opponent controls becomes 0.
>>159107530
>you can just normal summon it instead of fulfilling its terrible special summoning conditions
Really gets the noggin going.
>>159107608
Gate Guardian the Elemental Fiend
[Monster|Effect] Warrior/DARK
[Lv11] 3750/3400
This card cannot be Normal Summoned or Set. Must first be Special Summoned from your hand, Deck, or Graveyard by Tributing 1 "Sanga of the Thunder" monster, 1 "Kazejin" monster, and 1 "Suijin" monster. This card can attack three times each Battle Phase. Monsters with an original ATK less than or equal to this card's original ATK cannot attack this card nor target it for effects. This card cannot be destroyed by battle or by card effects.
>>159107608
why would you want to just reduce the original attack--
>>159107697
OOOOOOHH
>>159106438
All Moths are extra deck monsters.
Cocoon of Evolution floats in one of them when it leaves the field, you can also tribute it manually. Great Moth is avaliable during your opponent's turn, PUGM is avaliable during your opponent's second turn.
>>159107697
Reminder that MAXC will have cards that read "Cannot be destroyed by battle. Cannot be targeted by, or destroyed by, an opponent's card effects."
Book of Eclipse, Quaking/Storming Mirror Force and Floodgate Trap Hole are all legal so it's fair and balanced. :^)
>>159108180
ostinato already says that :^)
please dont be shit
please dont be shit
please dont be shit
>>159108319
>Once per turn, you can target one "Predator Plant" monster you control: shuffle your deck.
>>159108319
PLEASE DONT HAVE A FUSION SUMMON ONLY CLAUSE
LET ME PREDATOR GRAFT IT
>>159108374
ROFLMAO
>>159108180
>Subterror Behemoth Ultramafus skyrockets in price
>>159108319
>hope this about the earth and fire eidolons
>earth is a fucking normal monster
>>159108319
>If your opponent has more total cards in their hand and their side of the field than you do: Target up to 2 Fusion-Material monsters in your Graveyard that were sent to the Graveyard as a result of a Fusion Summon; Destroy 2 other cards in your hand and/or face-up on your field, including a Spell card, and if you do, shuffle your deck, and if you do that, you can shuffle either your or your opponent's deck, if both the destroyed cards were Spell card.
>>159108493
>FIRE Eidolon will be level 7 who hard OPT Sparks burn. Hinotama if you're lucky
>>159108403
Most likely the same clause as Greedy Venom.
>Must first be Fusion Summoned.
>>159108319
>yfw he's like ABC Buster where you can banish predplant/dark materials from the grave to summon
>Discard Dragoons to the Graveyard, trigger it
>Bring it back with Norden, detach from Bahamut Shark, trigger it again
>Bring it back by discarding Prince, tribute it, trigger it again
Best searcher
>>159063854
THICC
>>159110656
>KotFI > Bullhorn > Lonefire > Dragoon > GGX > Fossil Dig > Tenki > RotA
Other types need not apply.
>>159064247
why does this never get deleted for being porn?
what's the best way to eidolon?
>>159111314
BA.
>>159079941
Because they're preparing toFREE CONSTRUCTfor that sweet synergy
>>159111359
>They pre-errata Caligula to be a level 3 monster
>Rename him to Caligula, Eiburning abyss beast
>>159111423
>is not Eidolon
>automatically the worst fusion
>>159111501
>Caligula, Eidolon Beast of the Burning Abyss
Happy?
>>159111423
It would make sense to Aleister be a level 3 monster, Caligula is dumb.
Why Konami of Japan should care about BA anyway? If anything they should be more interested in supporting Darklords.
>>159111630
Level 4 is more splashable in, like, every deck ever.
Fifth of all card in existence is level 4.
>bottom circle is Caligula
>left circle is Magallanica
>right circle is the Fire Eidolon
Since it looks ghostly, I guess it's a fiend.
Is there any good support for Fire Fiend?
>>159111946
Could be Zombie for all we know
Or Pyro even
>>159111128
>Tenki > RotA
At least RotA can't be negated by MST
>>159112089
God no I'm still pissed at shiranui for not being burning corpses.
>>159111946
What about that other one?
Why Eidolons are fusions anyway?
Cocytus is just being summoned, clearly not a fusion of Aleister. Magallanica doesn't seem to be a fusion either.
Fusion cards don't even have a flavor anymore, did Konami forget the fucking name of the mechanism?
>>159112350
masked heroes weren't fusions
also caligula is clearly weird al fused with something
>>159112089
>Zombie
Yeah, it could be Zombie. Kinda forgot that this type exist for a moment there.
There's something weird there though.
I can see Raideen head and torso, on the left circle, but there's also Maga's hand beside him.
But it should be impossible because Maga hand is fucking huge.
And I can also spot two Al's staff on the right circle, one in the round smiling face, and one on the ghostly body behind it.
Maybe I should wait until better res is available.
>>159112350
Something to note is that every Eidolon have Al's staff embedded.
So Al might be inside those Eidolon beast controlling them.
Except in Caligula case where Al is fused with some Dark being.
But in Magical Name, you can see several Al's staff there, and since Summoning Magic grave effect recover Al back to hand, it seems like only Al's staff is fused with the beast, and Al can re-create the staff after a while.
Caligula transformation might be permanent though.
>>159112930
>Caligula transformation might be permanent though.
Take another good look at Caligula.
Someone post Skull Sevants
>>159113041
Skull Sevants.
>>159111946
>four sticks
So what attribute is spooky face and what attribute is blue spurdo?
>>159113136
current theory is that they are both the fire eidolon, and it simply has two sticks in it
So Eidolons are getting 3 spells and 3 traps it seems. With 2 spells and 1 trap already known.
Discuss.
>>159113510
Source?
>>159113136
There's not enough slot for two ED monster.
There's only a slot left for level 7 Fire Eidolon.
We might get it in the set after MAXC just like Shiranui though.
Since both spooky face and blue spurdo doesn't looks as powerful as Elysion, it might be a level 3 that can change its attribute, or treated as every attribute like Elysion.
>>159113510
Third spell could be interesting. Traps are automatically bad so who cares.
>>159113596
>double banish raigeki is bad
>9 Pillars is bad
>Zodiac trap is bad
>Combination is bad
>>159113745
Double banish raigeki?
>>159113829
Elysion revived by Magical Name.
>>159113871
ah.
NICE
DIVERSE
META
>over 50% of the top tier are variants of the same deck
LOL!
>yugioh
>balanced
>diverse
L O L
O
L
>>159113986
>wanting a diverse meta to begin with
>>159113986
>variants of the same deck
Zodiac Metalfoes, Kozmo and HERO are just those decks as usual with some Zodiacs thrown in. That hardly fucking counts as the same deck. They're just a way too splashable engine that can also be played pure.
>>159113986
>SR Zodiac Beast
>it's only Terror+Take splashed into Zodiac Beast
>other Zodiac Beast variants
>it's only Rat splashed into other deck
That's like saying every deck with Brilliant Fusion is a Gem-knight variant.
>Zodiac Beast Hero
What.
>>159113986
Add Zodiac Eidolon to that list with Fusion Enforcers.
>>159114267
There's still two weeks until SPFE. Chill.
We don't even know whether Zodiac is the best Eidolon variant.
>>159114220
>Zodiac Beast Hero
Dark Law Toad Rafflesia set 6 pass ;)
>>159114267
>Aleister + Triangle or Terrortop or Brilliant Fusion is a turn 1 Elysion with a bunch of rank 4s, plus Merkabah in the case of Brilliant Fusion
Shit's dumb
>>159114348
>We don't even know whether Zodiac is the best Eidolon variant.
https://twitter.com/SHIGUMA4/status/792857795523584001
>>159113986
Also TCG is 100% variations of the same Pot of Desires deck, lel
>>159113986
>This is cancer in OCG atm
>>159114658
Drancia is best girl desu
>>159114658
>cancer
Actually everyone's quite enjoying Zodiac format
>>159114743
>not Rabbina
>>159114435
>search Rat with Bullhorn, send to grave to summon Maga, and then attach with Tigres
I didn't thought of this at all.
That means Terror and Triangle is not all that important. R4 enabler might be better to make Bullhorn and starts the Rat combo.
Drawn Rat still hurts though.
>>159080812
I really can't tell.
>Because of Triangle, Terrortop, Tenki and Rat itself, you have an 85% chance to get the combo turn 1
Is this consistent enough?
>>159114843
Is rabbit your zodiac anon?
You are a bit defensive with the literally worst card of the archetype.
>>159115818
She's the cutest though.
>>159115470
it depends if you compare it to full power nekroz
>>159115470
ABC only have 6 Hangar in their deck.
The only way to make ABC without Hangar is if you open all three and a R4 enabler for Tsukuyomi.
Now tell me, can you make ABC consistently?
>>159086662
Why is Konami afraid to make DM a fully fledged archetype anyways.
"Dark Magician Monster" in card text is kind of rare, it usually involves Dark Magician himself, or cards that are treated as Dark Magician like the 2100/2500 retrain
>Give archetype a good type and attribute
>Give its enabler no hard OPT
>Give it a previously untouched summoning mechanic
Powercreep at its finest.
>>159116156
Raigeki ;)
The level 8 PP Fusion's materials are a Fusion monster and a DARK monster.
>>159116801
It has an effect that targets a monster, something related to predator counters, and a quick effect.
>>159116870
I can't see shit
>>159116870
The first effect puts a Predator Counter on a monster your opponent controls during either player's turn. Targets though so it's shit. And way too hard to summon.
How would you feel if Konami made an idol archetype?
>>159118585
it would probably be weeb bait packfiller trash like ghostricks and aromages.i own both of those already so i'd play it
>>159113986
So all they have to do is ban rat and this is over, right?
Can anyone give me a build for full power (TCG) Shaddolls? With the possible exception of Glads, to my knowledge they're the best Fusion Summon based deck the game has ever had, and after spending too much time playing the Synchro scum Junk Dopple, I want to get a feel for something more arian.
>>159118585
I'd be very happy and I'd buy and play the shit out of it.
Warera Ga Hitotsu Ni
Normal Spell Card
Activate only if you control 2 "Magician" cards in your Pendulum Zones. Add any two of the following from your Deck to your hand:
-1 "Performapal" monster
-1 "The Phantom Knights" monster
-1 "Speedroid" monster
-1 "Predaplant" monster
Y/N
>>159121362
>Mfw they ban Rat but releases something else that makes pure Zodiacs playable
>>159123271
>With the possible exception of Glads, to my knowledge they're the best Fusion Summon based deck the game has ever had, and after spending too much time playing the Synchro scum Junk Dopple, I want to get a feel for something more arian.
Just for fun, I went through a list of every Fusion Monster. It's funny how there seems to be more Fusion decks post GX than pre. Most of the GX "Fusion" decks were decks that just have a Fusion Monster, calling any of them Fusion decks is like calling Mokey Mokey a Fusion deck.
To my mind, here's a list of real Fusion decks, does anyone disagree?
GX era:
Roids (utter trash, but they did have a few Fusions)
Cyber Dragons/Chimeratech (undebatable)
Glads (remind me, did Glads ever actually revolve around their Fusion Summons? Or did they just tag all the time?)
VWXYZ (shit, but they had enough Fusions to count)
HEROs (Evil, Elemental, Masked, Neos... not Destiny though, they've only got like 1 Fusion)
Post GX:
Do Gem-Knights count? I really want to learn about the deck, but all I really know is that they were pretty much the only deck to be Fusion Summoning after GX but before ARC-V
Lunalights (undebatable)
Shaddolls (undebatable)
Frightfur (undebatable)
Melodious (undebatable)
Ritual Beasts (same sort of bucket as VWXYZ?)
So, long story short, if you want to get a feel for Fusion decks, the best post-GX option is probably Shaddolls (unless there's something special about Gem-Knights), pre-GX it's Glads or pre-Structure Deck Cyber Dragons, unless you actually want to learn how to run HEROs.
>>159123271
Just use the AI deck.
Or my meme petdeck, whatever floats your boat.
>>159124474
>Just use the AI deck.
YGOPro? Isn't that basically just a Prediction Princess deck?
>>159124706
>checks it
When the fuck was that changed?
>>159124369
I've heard that the GladBeast fusions were really good. They were contact fusions, and could tag out as well.
Speaking of Shaddolls, if I wanna play them Shaddoll Trains is my best bet isn't it? Though how much does that deck actually use the fusions? I think from watching a few vids the main use I saw was Shekhinaga for going into rank10s and the field spell, and less of using the shaddoll fusions for board. I saw some mention of Kaiju Shaddolls too, that any good?
>>159124751
>When the fuck was that changed?
Ban list happened.
>>159124764
>Speaking of Shaddolls, if I wanna play them Shaddoll Trains is my best bet isn't it?
There's a reason that I said Full Power, most of the other Shaddoll builds have lost the feel of the deck and they basically just tech in the Shaddolls as an engine for something else.
>"Predator Plant" archetype renamed to "Predaplant"
Fuck Konami of America.
>>159116801
>>159116870
>>159116962
But is it a Dragon or a Plant?
Because if it's a Dragon then it'll be really easy to summon using the Dragon's Mirror even if it does require a fusion monster as its fusion material.
How do you learn a new archetype?
>>159124851
Yeah, I only started playing again recently so I missed Shaddolls, but they look cool. Is it really just the construct ban that stopped pure shaddolls being a thing? or was it super poly too?
>>159125414
Read the cards. Then you play against the AI untill you've figured out what strenghts and weaknesses the deck has.
>>159125808
>against the AI
Just play against random people. I'll never understand why people bother with the AI.
>>159125808
Seems obvious. I guess it was a stupid question.
Thank you.
>>159125841
Because there's no time limit against the AI.
長崎県大杯 with はっちCS【2016/10/16】
Zodiac Beast Variants - 100% of Top 4
第6回ナスカ杯withはっち【2016/10/22】
Zodiac Beast Variants – 75% of Top 4
第15回トレカマーケットCS【2016/10/22】
Zodiac Beast Variants – 50% of Top 8, 75% of Top 4
はねうま杯【2016/10/23】
Zodiac Beast Variants – 75% of Top 4
はっちCS×大嵐杯 in 竜星のあらし 個人戦【2016/10/23】
Zodiac Beast Variants – 75% of Top 4
KCS2016【2016/10/23】
Zodiac Beast Variants – 75% of Top 4
第1回九産杯【2016/10/29】
Zodiac Beast Variants – 75% of Top 4
第15回新宿杯 ~5周年記念大会~【2016/10/30】
Zodiac Beast Variants – 75% of Top 4
第5回遊戯王新倉敷CS【2016/10/30】
Zodiac Beast Variants – 100% of Top 4
はっちCS with トイコンプ杯【2016/10/30】
Zodiac Beast Variants – 100% of Top 4
Zodiac Beast Variants - 82.5% of past 10 Top 4s (Singles) according to:
http://blog.livedoor.jp/yugioh_tpr/
>>159126085
>Zodiac Beast variants
>just Rat splashed into other deck
>SR Zodiac
>just Terror+Take splashed into Zodiac
>>159126252
This is just the percentage of topping builds using the Zodiac Beast engine. I'm just giving statistics.
Are the people that claimed that RATE is a shit set, promptly blown the fuck out already?
>>159127345
A majority of the set was shit though. Cyberdark Impact had some great cards(Vanity's cards, Instant Fusion), but the majority of the cards were still shit.
>>159123663
>the zodiac beasts went up to the goat on the zodiac then skipped all the way down to pig for some fucking reason
>mfw
That's another reason I thought Wildbow was supposed to be Monkey. Fuck you, Konami. So we've still got Monkey, Rooster, and Dog to save the deck after Molmorat gets assblasted into next week. Hopefully they'll give the deck more neat shit to do and not just the same fucking combos every single turn.
>>159127550
What, do you expect most of them to be meta immediately after release?
Not even DUEA can achieve that.
>>159127908
Zodiac will get 1 MD monster, 1 ED monster, and 1 trap card in MAXC.
Thus foreshadowing the third wave of support for all dracos archetype.
Screencap this.
>>159127939
I don't get your problem.
It was shit.
People called it shit
Now it isn't shit anymore.
People don't say it is shit anymore.
Post ygopro backgrounds
>>159097405
Holy shit, I want that to happen
>>159127939
I expected a good set and most of it was garbage except Zodiacs and Lawnmowing.
>>159102781
I want to violate her till I can hear her silent moans
Is this game better than hearthstone?
>>159128176
>g gundam
you're a good goy in my book
don't go to locals on saturday
>>159128089
There's no fucking way something can stop being shit.
Shit will stay shit forever and ever.
>>159114658
Where are their nipples?
>>159128530
Oh yeah?
Well, by your definition every set is shit then.
Which doesn't say anything, really.
>>159098771
how the hell do you do this, like none of the card art ever fucking shows up for me
>>159123271
>wanting Shaddoll
>when you can have Amazoness
>>159128959
The last few sets have been pretty bad in my opinion, actually.
>>159129063
>wanting Amazoness
>when you can have Gladiator Beasts
>>159129238
Of fucking course.
Every set is bad in your eyes.
>>159129325
>wanting Gladiator Beasts
>when you can have Performages
>>159129325
>wanting Gladiator Beasts
>when you can have Spirits
>>159127550
>A majority of the set was shit though
well let's do this all methodical like
>dragoncall + new ppals: they're alright, dag daggerman is probably the best of the lot
>speedroids and wind witches: WEW BABY I'M RUNNING PETDECKS TONIGHT
>nasateya and absolute ritual: bretty gud, tutubon a shit though
>ciphers: who gives a shit
>zodiac beasts: summon rat gg
>crystrons: pretty good for the deck actually
>espirits: fucking kek
>cardians: ENJOY, NOW WITH NEGATION
>ancient gears: not meta but okay on a casual level
>wightprincess: SALLY FORTH, 16000 ATK KING
>shiranui: s'alright i guess
>winda and return: muh
>bls: fucking KEK
>foolish burial: good support for a lot of decks desu
>lawnmowing: mill 20
>bewildering wind: the fresh new trap card that just isn't in season yet
>most of the generic monsters are pretty 4/10, but miscellasaurus is pretty rad with the new structure incoming
yeah i guess if you only care about competitive then the set doesn't have too much of worth but there's a bigger crowd than just that
gotta appeal to the casualslike meas well, i know i'm satisfied with some of my favorite decks getting new cards
>>159129482
>>159129502
>Wanting performage and spirits
>When you can have pirates
>>159129447
It's not my fault Konami releases tons of trash cards.
>>159129554
>bewildering wind
>trigger ultimaya on opponent's turn
>>159129624
>>159125241
it's a probably a plant, given the other fusion is one too
and he has starve/greedy as his dragon boss monsters
Just watched a duel with anime Virus Cannon and Golden Strongberg Castle and Holy shit. Ive seen some mill decks before but damn
>>159125841
The AI doesn't take five minutes to end their turn
>>159116323
And for shit like that the Zodiac players are maining Starlight Road.
I wonder if anyone still uses the skyscourges
>>159131009
>The AI doesn't take five minutes to end their turn
Neither does anyone online, because unlike DN, ygopro actually had the decency to implement time limits.
>>159130689
>it's a probably a plant
Yeah. It really wouldn't surprise me. But then again.
>check topping Zodiac lists
>http://blog.livedoor.jp/yugioh_tpr/archives/8645770.html#more
Pottery
>>159132021
http://blog.livedoor.jp/yugioh_tpr/archives/8645682.html#more
Is the future of yugioh just bundling up 3-4 of the available engines into a single deck? Mono-archetype deck building has had a good run, it can be retired now.
>>159131736
Id rather have a condition to banish fusion materials from grave without the need for dragon mirror regardless of typing.
That way ba pred plants would be a legitimate deck possibility
>>159135667
>That way ba pred plants would be a legitimate deck possibility
Fuck off Dante.
>>159133516
I'd be fine with that, mono-archetype gets boring after a while.
>>159133516
What a horrible future.
>>159135851
Never :*)
>>159114658
pixiv tag pls.
>>159136904
copy pasta the relevant nip from yugioh wiki or somewhere
always succeeds 9/10 times
>when you lose Rock-Paper-Scissors but your opponent lets you go first and you set up a perfect stunwall turn 1 so they scoop the whole match
Where does Rat rank all-time with respect to defining the meta with a single card?
>>159137557
Below Kycoo but above Skill Drain.
>>159137520
>when you lose Rock-Paper-Scissors and expect your opponent to go first but they let you do it and you're playing a turn 2 deck
>>159135975
So does every deck being 50% identical and only being built to shit out a single board.
>>159137678
>playing with a deck that lacks initiative
>>159137758
Well, hopefully we can get rid of both soon.
>>159137779
40-card goodstuff is the true deckbuilder's paradise.
>>159137826
Nu-Goats when?
>>159137779
Let's hope TCG takes the smart path and pre-hit Terrortop since they won't hit Rat for a while.
>>159137858
At this rate, soon.
Post anime cards you want printed
>C/C/C
>Battle Wasps
>Spirits (the ones Leo uses)
>Fossils
>Timelords
>Neo New Gladiator Beasts
>Neo New Amazoness
>Earthbound Prisoners
>UNDERWORLD RESONANCE: SYNCHRO FUSION
>Don Thousand cards
>Number 5
>Colorless, King of the Dark World
>Super Fusion God
>Cosmic Blazar Dragon
>>159137826
>40 staples
>deckbuilder's paradise
Ban the extra deck.
>>159137963
Meklords but I want them to work like they are supposed to with different parts and switching them out.
I think one of the tag force games had them but they were never actually printed that way.
>>159138109
Tag Force 6 and Special had them, and if you use them under an anime banlist they're incredibly powerful.
http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Aporia_(Tag_Force)
Vampire structure when?
>>159139320
2018/late 2017.
>>159114978
>art isn't any less ambiguous with the armor off
Official art looks like a loli tho
>>159139002
They should make those but make one meklord for every summoning type.
That was their thing right? They countered synchro summons.
>>159139320
>Zombie structure was the second structure deck
>Have to get through Simorgh feat. Harpies, Flip Rocks, Spellcasters Dark Magician bait edition, neo Equip Warriors, FIRE, and WATER to get to it
2019 most likely.
>>159139892
>yfw Xyz meklords
>>159139892
>They should make those but make one meklord for every summoning type
I like this. Why aren't you working at Konami, Anon?
>>159139993
Zombie meta be like
>>159142362
That would be the non existent goblin archetype I've been wanting for years.
>>159142580
Goblins and EARTH Warriors should be rival archetypes.
Like a mercenary group type of archetype.
>>159137963
The rest of Arcana Force.
>>159142874
They would be earth fiends wich it's really uncommon.
I havent played in two weeks and I already feel like im behind, what did I miss? Last I heard Phantom Knights won the lastest major event.
>>159143552
Yeah EARTH Warriors vs EARTH Fiends
On a scale of 1 to 10 how would you rate this card.
>>159145042
Card effect:
>Activate this card by targeting 1 face-up Attack position monster you control. It cannot be destroyed by battle or card effects. If the targeted monster leaves the field, destroy this card.
>>159142874
I just want to play goblins in yugs
>>159145247
>doesn't shuffle your deck
shit
One day they'll make an archetype that relies on shuffling your deck, and then all of /dng/s memes will come to fruition.
>>159146358
Maybe not what people have in mind but I could see a stun archetype that shuffles the opponents cards into their deck do pretty well.
>>159145247
Broken in barrier Stun beatdown
Would Phantom Knights work with Bujins? With the level 3 support, they could make Leviair and summon banished to make their XYZs easier.
>>159147915
If you just want EZ rank 3 plays you're better off splashing terror top and taketomborg.
>>159148157
Well, I was also thinking they fit with Bujin's banish mechanic as well. But I guess SR would work, too.
>>159147825
whats that?
quick, the new official format is Mega-Banned from now on.
what's topping now?
>>159148315
I dunno, probably mermails.
>>159148315
are we talking OCG or TCG?
>>159148315
>Fishborg and Brionac
Mermails
>>159148315
>New official format
You what
>>159148315
ftk bullshit, as always. or you know, zodiac beast ft. dragon rulers because terrortop/triangle can make dark matter, kek.
>>159148479
>>159148840
That's not how Mega-Banned works.
Also you are deluded.
>>159148840
>Fishborg and Brionac
on Mega-Banned, a format where every Limited/Semi is banned along the normally banned cards
tell me boys, is it "2 or more non tuners" like trish?
picture for a moment a world where left arm offering can search for future fusion.
>>159149108
So the gutted decks are even more gutted?
>>159149150
>>159148315
Noble Knights. It is finally time:^)
>>159149150
human stupidity at its finest.
>>159149150
>Inov was such a shit set they had to make an OC donut steel monster to fill up the seret rare slots
>>159149343
at least generic synchro level 9 has an effect now, even if it's just a target pop and a float that will never happen. giganticastle just felt so lame
>>159149150
>>159149218
>tfw my local weeb con holds a traditional tournament every year
Damn it feels good to be a #NOIDBOI
>>159127550
>A majority of the set was shit though.
As is the case with every damn set. RATE is still a notably above average set.
>>159149547
Hey whats the best deck to play in a traditional 60 card tournament? Is it really noids?
>>159149461
>a float that will never happen
I'm using Vermillion Dragon Mech since it was added on YGOPro, and I wasn't even aware of that effect anymore.
>>159149697
I doubt it, but it's fun as all hell. Synchro spam or some other ftk degeneracy would probably be #1.
>>159125664
>Yeah, I only started playing again recently so I missed Shaddolls, but they look cool. Is it really just the construct ban that stopped pure shaddolls being a thing? or was it super poly too?
Just Construct.
What cards do you really want off the banlist?
>>159151998
>>159139320
Would rather see them make a subarchetype out of Vampire Hunter and make them all rips of the Belmonts.That's a nice Carmilla.
super conductor tyranno
>>159152649
only if julius has an alternate win condition
How do I make an Odd-Eyes Magician Performapal Speedroid Phantom Knight Predator Plant deck that can summon out the Dimensional Dragons and their upgrades?
someone bake a new bread
>>159152967
What would it be?
I want Hunter to be an anti DARK deck. Like AoJ or Buster Blader but preferably less shit. Like give them easy ways to make opponents monsters DARK.
>>159153498
pendulum goodstuff without luster + terrortop + tomborg + red dice + boots + cloak + break sword + trump girl + kingii + maybe one day they'll make an in-theme level 8 dark so you don't have to fuse kingii with starve venom
>>159152649
>pic lists Sonia after Leon and before Trevor
>depicts Sonia but no Victor... oh wait
>depicts Reinhardt Schneider, but no Quincy, John, nor Johnathan Morris.
>No soleiyu Christofer nor Desmont>no Kokoro Belmont, Julius pseudo canon younger sister
this pic triggers my autism way more than anything /dng/ has posted the whole year combined.
[on-topic]
Yeah would be nice to have a more direct Castlevania Archetype in the game, I mean we Already have Dracula in the form of Vampire Lord and V.Genesis and Castlevania in the form of Vampirevania, and what is supposed to be Grans in the form of Flash Assailant, but god, why we can't have Belmonts aside of Vampire Kill...Vampire Hunter.
>>159142362
Google does nothing.
Sauzenao does nothing.
What is this? Is it porn?
>>159157350
Goblin Slayer. Not porn, that was just a rape scene