/civ4xg/ - Civilization, Stellaris, Endless and 4X Games General

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first for stellaris is stellar

>>158764997
>not making a brazil edition or pedro ll edition just piss of spergs
Goddamit OP you had one job. They would be the easiest (you)s of your life.

>replay Civ V
>Can maintain 2-3 lasting alliances throughout the entire game
>Can do it through careful diplomacy even though I'm a shameless warmonger
I miss this
Firaxis fix your fucking game

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DUDE TRIANGLES LMAO

Is the tech tree bugged? It shows 108 turns to complete a technology, but really it's 28 or so.

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>post yfw sega is going to run amplitude into the ground
>post yfw we will never see an endless legends 2 because auriga is destroyed

I am fond of /civ4xg/

>>158765240
Did you increase your science output this turn? I feel like some things are not updated until a turn passes

Have the patches and DLC added anything that makes Stellaris worthwhile?

>>158765093
>>158764841
I don't think problem of Stellaris is geography. I think it's problem is that they wanted modular system for factions but forrgot what's really important about them. You don't need major gameplay differences for factions to be unique, you need flavour. Historical games get off easy, they have loads of flavor "for free", merely at the cost of lives of all poor sods who died for the flag throughout history. With fantasy/sf games this isn't so.

Let's look at SMAC - do you folks realise that difference between two SMAC factions and two stellaris factions are more or less the same? You can easly reproduce the whole lot in stellaris engine, plus minus one or two exceptions. Yet they FELT radically different. They breathed flavour, the entire game did. Stellaris on the other hand feels like someone made TVtropes/scifi page into a cheecklist and went over it whilst slpapping graphics and mediocre gameplay on top of it.

>>158765240
civ6 and epic length btw

>>158765305
no, I checked the tech tree and then picked the technology in the same turn

Anyone have a gif of Victoria throwing her tantrum?

How come my districts sometimes have negative amounts of build progress?

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Why can't Oxford Uni be built here?

>>158765631
You can't build shit over strategic resources

>>158765294
W-will you be my wife's coalminer?

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>>158765515
Actually its not even just districts. Whats going on here?

>>158765305
>some things are not updated until a turn passes
yeah, that was the culprit, it's fine now.

>>158765686
How come the tooltip doesn't specify it needs to be built on flat land?

>>158765438
The problem with Stellaris isn't the factions but the ethos, they don't play differently at all, one could be a fanatical pacifist or a fanatical militarist but they will go through the same motions throughout the entire game

The events and different responses to them do help flesh out but that alone is not enough, gameplay gotta be different as well.

I saw in one of the dev diaries that they plan on revamping the ethics part of the game in the next major patch so I'm cautiously optimistic.

>>158765832
I'm pretty sure Oxford says that it needs to be build on flat land. I built it a few games ago and I remember reading that

>>158765919
Nah it just says grasslands or plains.

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>>158765490

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>>158765438
I am fond of maps

Your point is potentially correct, but I don't really know what can be done about it in Stellaris' case. You can have a thousand flavourful factions in EUIV because all the flavour's in wikipedia. And in SMAC you have 7 flavourful factions because with just 7 you can actually design them carefully. But in Stellaris? Not so much.

>Monti gives me some "we're not so different, you and I" speech, a turn later I farm a luxury resource and he's ready to denounce me.

>>158766017
I want to share with my friend who hasn't bought it yet.

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I am fond of 2016 remasters looking worse than 4x games

Honestly thinking that Arabia is the best civ desu

>infinite faith
>infinite science
>top-tier theme

>>158765234
>that many ships
>that little power
wut

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>>158765490
I only have this

>>158765848
>The problem with Stellaris isn't the factions but the ethos, they don't play differently at all, one could be a fanatical pacifist or a fanatical militarist but they will go through the same motions throughout the entire game
And I'm telling you you don't need gameplay difference for factions to be different. And ethos are closest thing to factions we have, outside of those mockups it comes preloaded with. I would love meaningful gameplay differences between factions/ethos but you don't NEED it.
>The events and different responses to them do help flesh out but that alone is not enough, gameplay gotta be different as well.
Again, look at civ, look at smac, look at dozens of other 4x games where it isn't. They all have their own flaws, but unique flavour, such as music, art, and writing, of the factions save them from feeling the same.
>I saw in one of the dev diaries that they plan on revamping the ethics part of the game in the next major patch so I'm cautiously optimistic.
I suspect since they seem hellbound on staying the course the only way for stellaris to become good, is about 2 years of gradual patching into something with enough gameplay elements to overlook lackluster atmosphere.

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>>158765848
>The problem with Stellaris isn't the factions but the ethos, they don't play differently at all, one could be a fanatical pacifist or a fanatical militarist but they will go through the same motions throughout the entire game

I used to think this was the problem, but consider Civ. Do the Aztecs play in any fundamental way differently to Korea? No. All the mechanics are the same, there's some moderate bonus that one gets to war that the other gets to peace - exactly like Stellaris gives bonus peacetime happiness to pacifists and bonus wartime happiness to militarists.

So I don't think it can be as simple as that.

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>>158765272
>enjoying hon hon garbage

>>158766286
Arabia is good but it cant deal with Horse fuckers.

>>158766289
You will note there are no battleships.
This was a game where the tech cards screwed me over and I didn't draw battleships until like 2400

>>158766386
>I suspect since they seem hellbound on staying the course the only way for stellaris to become good, is about 2 years of gradual patching into something with enough gameplay elements to overlook lackluster atmosphere.

Sadly, that also applies to every Paradox game, Crusader Kings 2 may be the GOAT game right now but it took years to get there.

>>158766570
*2450
Shit was ridiculous

>>158766386
Stellaris is Paradox's fastest selling game ever so I think its safe to say that they will be supporting it for years to come.

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>>158766090
why is your galaxy center slurping the area of influence

fuck's sake when will the wiki update
is there a list of all the new strategic resources in heinlein?

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>>158766620
I agree that CK2 is excellent, but in all honesty it got to GOAT with the Old Gods (at latest). Rajas onwards has just been irrelevant bloat that adds nothing to the core gameplay, just a bunch of "Dude Uyghurs Lmao" randoms that mostly just eat up processor time.

>>158766286

nah
this game is all about production, because everything takes fuck forever to build and barring great luck with resources its hard to get any reliable production

likewise, the best civs in the game are Sycthians (2 for 1 on strongest type of unit), Aztec (literal free builders that can rush districts) and Germany (Hansa is fucking insanely good)

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> cleopatra porn when?

also:
> tfw build colosseum and didn't check know it needed to be close to the other cities

>>158767049
>cleopatra porn when?
I'm waiting for the sfm people to get on that.

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>>158766909
Because Wiz is not a very good coder

>>158766909
Black Holes gotta eat too

>>158766090
>But in Stellaris? Not so much.
you can flavour out the ideologies with additional ethic specific techs

also you can do stuff for the three biomes i.e. wet/dry/cold

>>158766620
>Sadly, that also applies to every Paradox game, Crusader Kings 2 may be the GOAT game right now but it took years to get there.

I don't think I can agree with this. Not because Paradox doesn't release underkooked games, but because paradox releases prior to stellaris felt underkooked in a different way.

Take CK2 It was never lacking in atmosphere or depth really, it was lacking in polish and breadth. Like a house with a window missing, toilet malfunctioning and a garden so abandoned you need a machete to break through.

With stellaris it's different, it feels like a newly build appartment. It's clean, it's empty, it's soulless.

It's up to individuals to decide which is better.
And I really need to do some decorating in my room now that I think about it.

>>158766729
Good for it, I will keep calling it boring tho untill it stops being so.

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>>158766923
>is there a list of all the new strategic resources in heinlein?
Err... yeah. Here is the list of new strategic resources in Heinlein:
>

>>158765807
Scaling production costs or something.

>>158767370
ok fine smartass
which ones are strategic vs local

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>>158765490
rule 34 when

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>try for mezari win
>drakken or wild walkers win every time
JUST

why is there SO fucking little production in this game

I literally can only make stuff for as long as I have trees to chop and once they're gone it just grinds to a fucking halt

>Gorgo shakes her Spartas at me

Does she want it, lads?

>>158767464
I'm sure that will crop up too, but I just want her angry animation for a reaction gif.

>>158767515
>what are lumbermills

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>>158767445
Betharian and Xeno Pets local.
Everything else global, I think.

>>158767515
There is a reason why pmuch all grognards agree that germany is A tier and rushing apprenticeship is the way to go every game.

>>158767609

>what are lumbermills come far too late in the game to not chop trees instead

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Literally the best girl

>>158767464
There's fucking NOTHING and the games been out for a week (or more?) now. I'm upset.

>>158767703
I am fond of milfs.

>>158767703
Don't you mean >>158767049 ?

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Anyone have that image of the title "Civilization VI" that was slapped over some random anime (possible some other style) mobile/facebook game. It had a ton of civ leaders with big boobs and stuff if that helps.

>>158767445
Saw that Betharian and Xeno pets have moved on to be just tile resources.

That's about it really

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>>158767630
is this penis ring

>>158767703
I wish she was more muscular, would've done wonders to my dick

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>>158767703
>wanting to jump a muscular grandma

Are Harald's rolling Rs exaggerated as fuck or is it meant to sound that way?

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>Forward settles ME
>Has troops in MY borders
>"Your units are too close to my borders"
ARE
YOU
SHITTING
ME

>>158767748
Civ has never been a popular rule34 series. It's gonna take some time.

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I'm new here guys.

Isn't Stellaris a GrandStrategy? I've never played it but since it was made by the same guys that did EU4 and CK2 I had pre-supposed it was GS instead of 4X.

Why is it discussed here? And more importantly, what's this that I've seen about people saying it lacks depth? What areas of it are boring and what areas would you say are fun?

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>>158767807

Nevermind, found it. Or at least found part of it. This was superimposed over Civ 6 gameplay screenshots.

>>158768501
I'm far from Scandinavia, never been there never talked to anyone from there, but from what I remember reading about old Norse, Rs are really over emphasized in the language.

>>158768513
In the year 1846, Egypt denounced me for breaking my promise to remove troops from her borders.

My Scout was just automated exploring through our mutually open borders...

>its a no chink leaders are women episode
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GM5BFgwiADY

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>>158767272
>you can flavour out the ideologies with additional ethic specific techs

I think this would help if the techs were REALLY different. Like, changes-your-whole-playstyle-for-the-entire-game different.

So one ethos (materialist?) ends up researching The Matrix and your worlds end up carpeted in pod-farms that give you research + energy + minerals all at once. Spend all game trying to infiltrate other empires' computer networks and make their robots go Machine Consciousness by design rather than accident.

Collectivists(?) research Space Gulag and you can turn asteroids into insane production pop-holding worlds worked by slaves. Use all that production to build Socialist Utopia, and people defect to you with rebellions without you having to fire a single shot.

Spiritualists strategy revolves around, I dunno, sacrificing 10,000 psykers to the Golden Throne every day until their prayers summon those Dimensional Horrors from Leviathans that you then sic on your enemies.

Stuff like that, stuff that actually gets you to use a different "grand strategy" other than just 'I fite u 4 planet'.
Basically the player should BECOME something like the Unbidden / Scourge / Synths over the course of the game, not (just) be told that "OMG this is too weird you must kill it"

>>158768671
It plays more like a realtime 4x than a grand strategy game. Unlike most Paradox Interactive titles it also is playable by people without autism, hence the butthurt about it (much like CK2 before it got good or EUIV).

>>158768671
>I'm new here guys.
At least read THIS thread.
>Isn't Stellaris a GrandStrategy?
No
>I've never played it but since it was made by the same guys that did EU4 and CK2 I had pre-supposed it was GS instead of 4X.
It isn't
>Why is it discussed here?
Because at /gsg/ we turned autism into an art form.
>And more importantly, what's this that I've seen about people saying it lacks depth? What areas of it are boring and what areas would you say are fun?
Read this thread.

How do I buy the Aztech leader if I didn't preorder the game?

>>158769097

You don't. You have to wait for it to become free for everyone.

>>158765438
SMAC had a handful of pre-set, pre-written factions, Stellaris lets you design your own empire from scratch. SMAC is a more narrative game with a plot, Stellaris is a sandbox. You can't make Stellaris "feel" more like SMAC narratively without taking away what most people want to play it for - making the Imperium or Soviet Union in space. The only way to make Stellaris more immersive is gameplay changes.

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>>158768671
It's kind of a GS/4X hybrid.
Which unfortunately means that it is simultaneously a shallow GS and a boring 4X.

Although the real reason it's discussed here is because it was kicked out of /gsg/ for being too popular and/or not historical enough.

>>158768762
Why do we tolerate Australians?

>>158769368
But if it is both a shallow GS and a boring 4X, why is it so popular? What is its appeal? What does it do right?

>>158769570
>why is it so popular?
Is it?

>>158765163
OP doesn't get (You)s though

>>158769570
People are starved for space games. It still manages to be a decent game that has been getting steadily better through patches and DLC. It also has a really slick presentation, with great soundtrack, graphics and art design.

>>158766386
>enough gameplay elements to overlook lackluster atmosphere.
Stellaris has more atmosphere than Endless Space.

Goddamn I wanted to like that game so hard, it has pretty much everything, but playing it felt sterile as fuck.

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>>158769570
>But if it is both a shallow GS and a boring 4X, why is it so popular?

Well... it's not, really. It's only popular by the very low standards of a GS, and that's more because Paradox has been learning to shill better over the years than that it's any sort of good game.

Actually, I'll qualify that: Stellaris IS a good game - for like the first 20 hours when everything is new and novel. Which is all game reviewers and interested normies will ever see. To actual gs players that's an eye-blink, and after that 20 hours it's boring.

>>158768982
I honestly think it's not too late to introduce proper factions in stellaris. about a dozen or so should do. Use them as FE or advanced starts only. Make them really feel unique. Music, Art, hullpaint, history, the works. Do to each of them what they did to human's/sol. They even already have basis for it in the game with archeology quest chaiins. Make them always show up in this form or that. And you've already made a leap towards replayability that would otherwise require a tonn of coding which paradox repeatedly shown unwilling to do.


>>158769261
>SMAC had a handful of pre-set, pre-written factions, Stellaris lets you design your own empire from scratch. SMAC is a more narrative game with a plot, Stellaris is a sandbox.

Yeah, and that's shit design, no atmosphere means nothing to keep you in but your own RP and gameplay. RP against a screen requires at least 2 wifus as far as I'm concerned. And I doubt anyone is in awe of stellaris gameplay if they ever played 4x or a gsg.

>You can't make Stellaris "feel" more like SMAC narratively without taking away what most people want to play it for - making the Imperium or Soviet Union in space. The only way to make Stellaris more immersive is gameplay changes.

Of course you can, above outlines just one way to do it. Also don't use "most people" in an argument, ever.

How come with billions more TEKNOLOGY no one beat SMAC or made a 1 to 1 copy of it but removing the bad shit? Are devs retarded?

>>158769368
What exactly is grand strategy about Stellaris?

>>158768982
>Collectivists(?) research Space Gulag and you can turn asteroids into insane production pop-holding worlds worked by slaves. Use all that production to build Socialist Utopia, and people defect to you with rebellions without you having to fire a single shot.
I would love to see a combination of spiritual collectivists create a hive mind so I can finally play the zerg like they were meant to be played.

Give it massive bonus to production and aggriculture, but make assimilation process take more time.

>>158770064
Pops, realtime, factions, combat, demesne

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>>158769797
>People are starved for space games.
Literally this for me, i am still waiting for the "good" one

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>>158770064
Mostly that it's made by a grand strategy studio using an engine they used for several grand strategy games.

>>158770064

Many mechanics are ripped from CK2 and EU4

>>158769895
At least they made up for it with EL

Good 4X Spacegames that everyone should play
I'll start.

>Alpha Centauri

>>158770293
>Stellaris

>>158770289
I fucking hope they can fix it for ES2 because EL was fucking awesome.

Sadly what I've seen so far planets still look very soulless. I want to actually see my empire prosper, Endless Legend did that great with city districts and shit. Endless Space 2 seems like it's still exactly the same as ES1

>>158770412
>>158770293
>Beyond Earth

>>158770293
>alpha centauri
>space 4x
>space
>plays almost entirely planetary barring a few techs
nope

have another try, here, I'll show you how:
>Master of Orion 2

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>>158770537

>>158770564
If you REALLY think about it...
every 4X is in space...
because we're all floating in space...even Earth...

woah

>>158770672
4deepXme

>>158770537
Here's your (You)
I think Civ 4's Planetfall mod would have worked better as an official Beyond Earth than the actual Beyond Earth we got.

>>158769368
>Although the real reason it's discussed here is because it was kicked out of /gsg/ for being too popular and/or not historical enough.
Not true. Gsg acknowledges and adores distant worlds. Most fags don't actually play it, but that's cause old habits die hard.

>>158769570
Are you at all familiar with anime? Ever heard of sword arts online? It's similar. On surface it offers all the cool shit of 4x/gsg IN SPACE! in a neat package. Take a shovel, start digging and you start having issues across the spectrum. It's not as bad as SOA, but it's a decent analogy i find.

>>158769895
I feel you. I ignored the enire franchise after my first contact with ES. Untill you people got me hooked on EL.

>>158770176
Non of that is GS. As close as one can define GS vs 4x difference is about level of planning and breadth of options that goes into this or that action. Both in stellaris doesn't approach even EU4 levels, and EU is easiest gsg out there. Except for that joke of a brainded game HoI4.

>>158770293
Sots, Soase, GalCiv2, Homeworld, DIstant worlds (gsg), just to name a few.

Does Civ VI still punish players for going wide, like V did with science and culture cost?

>>158770903
No wide is pretty much the only competiitive strategy.

I want to POUND STERLING victoria

>>158771021

Oh, good, because I was damn pissed everytime I discovered that map generator didnt put coal/aluminium within my cities range in V and I had to make new cities in order to get them, in the meantime making it harder to get new techs and culture.

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>>158771063

There was a mod that turned on quick combat and quick movement on AI turns then went back to normal on your turn that I can't seem to find. Does anyone know what I'm talking about and have a link?

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>dat sprawl
how to spread religion then?
and when the fuck are they gonna fix this shit?

>>158770903
No, it's the other way around. There is no penalty to science costs with extra cities. You go with insane city spam bullshit that was in G&K.

>>158771021
>>158771203
Speaking of going wide, is there any reason to raze cities rather than keep them?

>>158771418

see

>>158768513

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Nice beta game Firaxis.

>1 less gold maintenance per unit
this is ridiculously overpowered
i used it to field dozens of free spearmen, and then i just upgraded them the moment someone declared war on me

What's the general rule for building new cities?

I feel like I'm emphasizing resources too much and generic tiles too little because I barely see why I should build new cities while the AI is spamming them all over the place. Only downside I have had so far was this one game in which I had some 8 cities because I tried to force myself to go very wide and it ended up putting me in an unhappiness spiral

Also what the fuck is up with religion, the AI just spams be with missionaries and then I can't build missionaries of my own, am I supposed to surround my cities with apostles or something

>>158771889
production is king, settle on hills

>>158771889
Settle as close as possible with as many cities as possible, fill the area with districts.

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>>158767703
>go with complete underneath the barrel choice that can't feasibly be anything but tokenism
>don't have the decency to make her a waifu

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Where's the Anon who wanted civs for his sandbox game?
I found the one I made earlier.


Also,
>boot up Stellaris after a few months
>all my mods are outdated
Fuck.

>>158771889

If you can find an area that's 1/3 hills, 1/3 river, and 1/3 desert/tundra, you'd be set. You've got production, enough food and housing in way of farms to get you through the first half of the game, and enough blank spaces to fill with districts.

Group cities into 4's or 5's, and put all of your industrial districts in the middle of the group so they get each other's production bonuses late-game.

>>158772416
stop objectifying me you shitlord

What is the best theme in the game and why is it England?
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CVl3J4PYWTY

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>Discover my capital has -6 amenities

Send help. im not seeing any way to boost them

anyone got any interesting maps/ good starts lately?
Could you give me your seeds?

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Hey anon, I heard a rumor you said hello to a city state. Is that true?

>>158767515
you just have to wait until you can get your circle of industrial districts out. If your cities are close enough you can plop down 5-6 of those districts and get the bonus to each city. You shouldn't have production issues unless you designed your empire poorly with too spaced out cities

>>158772729
I am fond of city states
t. Pericles

>>158772719
Entertainment districts. And stop being at war, fireaxis doesn't want war in civ.

Why are unique units so boring this time around?

>>158772416
Leaders in VI are really weird. Some of them actually look like humans like Peter, Teddy, some of them look like aliens like Gandhi and Catherine, some of them looked bored as fuck always like Cleo, and they animated the shit out of some of them, like Phil. There's really no consistency between them

>>158772978
>And stop being at war

Ah thats why. Ive been wiping out a German Army. Barbarossa is fucking strange he alternating between sending a message that amounts to 'ur a big civ' and throwing armies at me

>>158773119
Must have handed them off to different groups who didn't bother to communicate. Teddy did look like a hamster before everybody got mad at them though.

>>158772724
Is it even possible to see the seed number in the game?

>>158772992
Which civs have you played so far? Some of them look interesting imo

>look at neighbouring civ
>they have like 18 horsemen moving around their city every turn

What the fuck is even going on, every round there's a stampede

>>158771889
>get settler production boost
>make six or eight settlers
>then don't make settlers in the future aside from ridding yourself of excess citizens

>>158772729
Why does Freddy look like a psychopath?

Privateerfag here, is Stellaris patch 1.3.1 out yet?

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>>158773832
Because he is one.

>>158773832
He's a ginger, that should say enough.

>>158771889
Each type of luxury resource you have gives 4 amenities to be spread out between your cities (say if you have 3 foxes, only 1 gives you amenities, the other 2 are just for trade). So if you settle a lot of cities but they don't bring in new/different luxury resources, it's going to hurt you really bad in the long run amenities-wise. Sometimes you can just trade other civs for more amenities if you have lots of duplicates and/or lots of money

>>158773614
you better circle the wagons, cowpoke

>Chateau in Civ VI
How the fuck did one of the best UIs in Civ V become the worst in Civ VI? Jesus

>>158773832
He's butthurt about fucking drowning instead of reclaiming the Holy Lnad

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Rate the subtlety of my space nazis on a scale of 1 to memes.

>>158773330
Yes, in fact you can directly edit your seed in the advanced game set-up

>>158774331
I know you can edit it, but can you see the seed during your gameplay? Like AFTER starting the game with the said seed.

>>158773832
He is german.

>>158773838
ye, check out your favorite slav forum for the link

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>>158774312
>Supreme Overfuhrer
anon i'm dead

>>158774312
>Supreme Overguide

>>158774312
>No swastika flag
0/10

>>158774431
I'm not sure, but you could write the seed down before you start a game and then you can see if you liked what you got.

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>>158774312
>Supreme Overfuhrer

AND THIS IS TO GO EVEN FURTHER BEYOND

>>158774623
>note the seed of your every restart, just in case one of them might turn out to be good and not tinyislandstart#352
Fuck that shit. How come they don't add the seed numbers of the map you're playing on to the map details in the game? God damn it Firaxis, lazy shit like this makes me angry.

>>158774431
Here's a thread about it, you need to hex edit for it
Why do you need to make it all so needlessly complicated firaxis
>>158775430
You could also just take a screenshot of the seed everytime

>>158775429
>[PEACEKEEPING INTENSIFIES]

>>158775572
Whoops, forgot to link the thread
http://forums.civfanatics.com/threads/found-map-seed-for-existing-saves-hex-editing.601134/

>engage an enemy
>both fleets have similar firepower and technology level
>i have a lot of rocket weapons and shields, enemy has a lot of lasers and PD
>their PD destroys 80% of my missiles
>in the end my fleet deals 3k damage, their fleet deals 25k
nice balance
it looks like after 1.3 patch the only good explosive weapon usage is torpedo corvettes

>voting miriam as a planetary governor
yang the absolute madman

>>158769570
>What is its appeal? What does it do right?
Theme and atmosphere is pretty good.

My major problem is the UI and bad performance.
I imagine I'd play it more if it wasn't for that.

>>158774431
>>158775572
>editing your seed during gameplay
what would that change?

geography should stay static, right?

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She actually doesn't look that bad in her loading screen

>>158775429
>interrogated
[terror intensifies]

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>>158775989

>>158775429

>"interrogated" by Gaians
>all those mindworms, writhing around Deirdre

Too much /d/ I guess.

>>158776237
>zensunni alliance

>>158776295
Deirdre would probably love it, that nature-loving slut

>>158776073
No we just want to save the seed for later use if it was a really good map or start

>>158776405

Now imagine how I felt when reading that intermission about first mind-worm trainer.

>"Becoming the mind-worm?"

>>158776181
The nail polish is weird, I thought that was a 20th century meme.

>>158776295
Fate/Stay Night called.

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>>158776181
she's a cunt. Felt good nuking her today as Muslim man. You can't make this shit up

>>158776604
Italians are weird like that

>>158776181
Shes a dumb fuck in the game every time she wars you its at the dumbest time possible for her and I just wreck her shit.

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When will Civ VI be fixed?
Is it whenever the NQ team mods it and not a moment sooner because the devs are jews?

>The real use of Gunpower is to make all Men tall - Thomas Carlyle

kek. /k/ommandos confirmed for Manlets

>>158777612
March 2017, DLC #1

>>158777612
It's insane how fast that group decides something needs to be buffed.

>>158778138
>March 20170
fixed

>>158778138
Civ V wasn't fixed by the DLCs though: it was still broken, but there wasn't as much of the game missing.

>>158778254
Honestly, it's still miles better than vanilla Civ

>Start 1
>Plains hill (bugged to give +1 production over flats)
>multiple 4 yield tiles, and not faith/sci/culture

>Start 2
>No plains hill in sight
>No 4 yield tile
>1 food 1 production, 1 culture tiles as bonus resource

When is RNG being removed?

What is the best go-to Pantheon and why is it Fertility Rites?

>>158778674

>When is RNG being removed?

Same time RNG gets removed from dice.

https://discord.gg/Tcmjq
New /civ4xg/ discord, just started yesterday.
Anyone willing to discuss 4x games or try to get MP going for em welcome.

>>158777318
oh they're just stained from sauce I get it

>>158778674
Stop rerolling anon. It wastes your time, and your bitching aboutit here wastes ours. Try balanced if it busts your balls so much

>>158777467
~there are games being played on so many levels here~

>>158780426
Catherine confirmed for 4D CHESS

>>158780307
Balanced only considered resources, not terrain

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>manage to get first dibs on pantheon as rome due to a lucky relic from a hut
>tons of stone so go for +2 faith from quarries
>can already see myself going for a religion game
>china appears out of nowhere and wardecs me
>wrecks my holy site and sets me back for a handful of turns
>get back on track for the prophet game a while later
>about to win what i assumed was one of the last great prophets
>suddenly it's nabbed right under me and all the prophets are gone
>mfw it can only mean one thing

SALADEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEN

>>158780574
Le happy last-prophet face

>>158778602
I just fear it will go the way of the civ v mod, adding layers and layers of changes instead of fixing the necessary things by making slight tweaks

What's a good ratio for fleets in Stellaris?

I've been going; 1 battleship to 2 cruisers to 4 Destroyers to 8 Corvettes.
However, I feel like this is pretty fucking trash now that I'm heading into late game.

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Post comfy civ 6 set ups

>bottom right corner of a continent
>my area is protected by a wall of mountains
>plenty of luxuries and bonus resources
>only way into my empire from the west is through a narrow mountain pass which I put an encampment in
>only way in from the north is through a narrow Thermopylae-style coast
>the ocean and a snowy wasteland protect my east and south
>Kongo nigger yelling at me everyone few turns for not spreading my religion to him aka not getting gibsmedat
>Kongo piles up units trying to get in and explore but my trump wall of military and mountains is in the way
>get to bully Victoria as I pile up units near hear city to protect my north route
>multiple rivers so it's easy for me to max out my city planning

So.. monty just took my starting city with 2 UU. That seems well balanced. I know I know build military and all that. I don't really mind, just surprised the ease with which he did it, but do you guys think that that should be happening, or would you rather cities, at least palace, had some teeth?

>>158781453

Cities are vulnerable before walls. It's not a balance issue, because you could have taken advantage of it just like Monty did. It's just a design decision. Keep it in mind during your next game.

>>158781580
But is it a good one? Again, I don't really mind the loss, I just find idea of 2 warriors taking a palace.. ludicrous.

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What kind of things the devs can add in an early patch to improve/balance/tweak the game? I agree with most of you that the game has mild to serious flaws, but 99% of them can be fixed with mods/patches. And it's CERTAINLY better than most civs at launch.

Real answers encouraged, however I will also accept meme answers.

>>158781453
Not exactly an answer to your question, but i wish the game somehow accommodated small scale one/two city wars as opposed to the empire wiping all production wars that are prevalent

>>158781717

I find it an interesting wrinkle to the early game. Historically, it makes sense. You are a small tribe with no walls. Barbarians and aggressive rival tribes would be your biggest threat.

>>158764997
Any news on a patch?

>>158781954
Yeah, but what good does it do for gameplay? I'm all for forcing people to build walls, escalation of hostilities and all that. Like in SP it's just a reroll which is neither here nor there, in MP you just removed a player and gained a meh city. It's one thing to take a 50 turns in capital, 10 turns in? What's the point.

>>158781850
Never gonna happen in civ, simply wrong core design for it. To make that happen you need to have players be small, like OPM's in gsg, which wouldn't make any sense in civ. City state wars sort of thing could be amusing, with everyone essencially playing with venice rules, but ultimately that's not what civ's good at.

>>158782443
It makes it so you don't just start with the generic scout/scout/monument/worker

>>158782646
Its scout builder monument thank you very much. And not really - starting warrior would have stopped it if I didn't send him scouting, but I guess I see your point about it being risk reward.

>>158780039
https://discord.gg/sNHXh
New link

>>158782443
When i ment small scall i ment large empires fighting a war where maybe only one or two cities change hands.

As it stands now, there really isn't any point to letting the loser have any cities, seeing that if you manage to take one, you have probably already squashed his army.

the one thing that would cause small wars is warmongering penalties, that only exist in single player and the AI doesn't like you anyways

>>158782940
why not just make a permanent link

>>158782993
Only if you revamp war system to gsg style, or if you make war weariness for taking cities extrimely penalizing. Don't think either's a good idea for civ. War is too shit alrea simply because how boring and clickfesty it gets

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>>158775429
*Battle March of the Republic intensifies*

will there be a black friday sale of 4x and strategy games u think? I want stellaris

I waited to buy beyond earth until it got good
why hasn't it gotten good enough to buy yet. did they totally abandon it?

>>158783454
... Woah....

Really makes you think....

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>>158783623
>did they totally abandon it?
Yes. And it's official. Not even bug fixes in the future.

>>158783240
>leaving a random link for the archives to find

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How much cities should empire have in Civ V to be considered "wide"?

>>158783896

Mind linking some official annoucement or something?

Firaxis could at least fix that annoying bug with mods, forcing people to reload files twice every time they start the game.

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>>158783623
>>158783896
>>158784350
to be fair, one of the devs said this on twitter. this doesnt confirm or deny anything at all, but who knows.

>>158784934

T-there is still a chance for Neppu-Neppu, after Beru-Beru.

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>>158785372
>nepu
Are you in the right general?

>>158785597
ME EEMS

the astonishingly awful ai makes singleplayer obsolete, and i sure as well won't pay 60 bucks for the base game on its own so that i may access multiplayer

>>158781826
Add in a District/Wonder view on tiles so you can see exactly what can be build there either currently or in the future. Pins are a good start but I can't imagine getting to the point where I can plan 300 turns ahead for my city planning.

>>158785786

Yes. This general covers BERT as well, right?

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>>158785870

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>>158786021
BERT, yeah. But what's Nepu-Nepu, if not the mememaster?

When I colonize a planet in stellaris why doesn't it play the movie of the colony ship majestically flying down to the surface anymore.

I liked it.

>>158776181
She looks sickly with a touch of royal inbreeding

>>158786268

I like memes.

I called Neptuna, because we already have Beru-Beru as expansion.

I dont want to see BE die. Its not bad game, to be honest. I had fun with BERT.

Welp, got my Deity win on like turn 75.
Religion victory over Kongo 1on1 on a Huge Pangaea with No Barbarians.
Not as easy as Venice, but meh...

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What the FUCK is his problem?

>relatively big continent with 4 out of 8 civilizations
>there's only 4 kinds of luxury goods

How am I supposed to deal with this

Cities starting to go angry

I'm building entertainment districts now but it just seems like a bit of a waste

>>158787297
>meet a city-state?
That's a paddlin.
>send envoy to a city-state?
That's a paddlin.
>Suzerein of a city-state?
Oh you bet that's a paddlin.

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>>158787297

stellaris looks fun but I get overwhelmed at the start
what's a good faction to play for babbies first playthrough?
any pointers?

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>>158787297
This is the only message you should ever receive from this guy.

>>158787584
All of them play the same, so who gives a shit. I'd say fanatic materialist collectivist, it was my first proper faction.

i must say the folks at firaxis really captivated the germanic spirit with t. barbarossa

>start up a new game
>have fun going wide and building my cities
>game advances
>endless trade route and spy renewals
>people denouncing me every 2 turns because of their dumb agendas
>end-game becomes a slog
>quit the game
>start a new game the next time i start up

>>158787297
AI are programmed to not give away 100% of their gold stash.

Trajan is always leading for faith victory in my games. Watta fook

>>158784350

So, how many cities for medium map should have wide civ?

I wonder if 6 cities is wide enough for Hidamari...

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>yfw stellaris is a good game but only if you spend shekels on DLC

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>>158785973
>I can't imagine getting to the point where I can plan 300 turns ahead for my city planning.

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>>158768138
>thinking the product of 13 generations of brother-sister incest would be attractive

>>158789952
>what is piracy?

>>158789952
>spending shekels on a paradox game
Not only that, but Stellaris has sweet fuck all DLC yet, maybe in another year.

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>Chilling on my island getting ready to culturally enrich the nearby continent, because The Sun Never Sets on this qt's empire
>Trajan shows up on my land with a settler and a warrior
>Wut
>He settles 6 tiles from my capital
>He's already denounced me because he's got a problem with my face or something
>NotAmused.gif
>declare war to kick him off my island
>everyone denounces me next turn
Is there a casus belli to tell people to fuck off for settling too close to your shit?

>>158790894
No.

>>158790894
Territorial Expanision from the Mobility tech. Used to declare war on civilizations that border your empire. Must have 2 of your cities within 10 tiles of 2 opponent's cities. Warmonger penalties reduced by 25%.

Mod for Hojo to talk like a weeb, when?!

I want my "Thank you, senpai" and "Let's be friends, baka"

Added bonus would be if they would add some animations to his eyes and cheeks when he is tsundere

>>158790894
No, and broken promises don't count as a casus belli either. Shit's fucked.

>British Museum
>6 artifacts, themed automatically
Wouldn't that give you an insane culture /tourism output?

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>>158791450

>>158791450
How about you make his samurai worth using first.

Do any of you know how to open the console command in Civ6?

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I won a cultural victory with this as my map on turn 505 standard everything continents map, didn't even find the last of the eight civilizations

>>158792109
lol

>>158791312
That's pretty far down the tech tree, and this was only early Medieval period. Territorial expansion is also implied to be an offensive casus belli when you want that sweet sweet Lebensraum.

I'd want a defensive version of that, because right now it seems to be the only way to stop forward settling like this is to just wait around for the aggressor to settle and start a war on their own terms, which isn't particularly fair when they're the one encroaching on your territory. Even if you kick them out you still get massive penalties for razing or otherwise taking back the land their settlers took.

>>158792109
Check your inbox ;D

>>158792491
>>158792673
What kind of meme is this. Do you know or not?

>>158792390
It's boring as sin, innit

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why does japan do this?

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>>158792390
What difficulty?

>>158792390
>turn 505

Jesus fucking Christ. Were you playing on marathon?

>>158771521
Literally how?

>>158767630

is it me, or is a more logical endgame scenario for a 4x space game either:

* be a dickass who conquers the galaxy
* become the Culture and buid your wn orbitals, dyson spheres, GSV's etc and basclly fuck with other civs for lols (the equivalent of researching "future tech" in civ when everyone else is at gunpowder
* sublime intopost-material status, like the G'Zilt in the Clture Novels or the Q in Star Trek
* Become completely decadent and basiclly create some sort of mental eye-of-terror event, like the WH40k eldar

>>158792821

>allowing open borders

Do yourself a favor and don't

>>158792947
I encountered by opted not to exploit or test the upper limit of a similar situation. The AI seemed willing to give me a dang near unlimted amount of GPT for a luxury. Hit 50 gpt or so and stopped bothering to increase the amount.

>>158787114
I slogged out a Germany production into science deity win, standard speed and standard pangaea.

Not fun in the slightest; by the time I got the ai and barbs under control all I wanted to do was end it, but still wanted to see the late-game deity plays. Just an eternal cycle of denouncing and pseudo warring from everyone.

So how exactly does Civ VI work even?

Like are there any tips on how to do this game?

I have played a few hundred hours in Civ V so I know the basics, it is just the new things are not explained very well.

Like apparently districts give their bonuses to all cities in a 6 tile radius or something?

How do amenities even work?

>>158766286
Grmany and Arabia are my favs

There should be a "Roleplay" mode for Civ games that make the leaders act like rational people instead of number-crunching robot sociopaths. I know what is what they are and I know that winning is the point of the game, but it has always frustrated me that there is no real way to be on good terms with the people you live around. They are either enemies who hate you to your face or "friends" who intended to backstab you from the start.

>>158793864
Just ally with people who give you a declaration of friendship and you get +17 positive diplomacy points forever. I've never had an ex-ally backstab me before.

>>158766286
the production cost of wonders is retarded in this game

>>158793678

Read the Civilopedia

>>158793864
Trade with them regularly and play along with their agendas. That's literally all it takes to keep an AI nice and friendly.

>>158793864
5 has pretty decent diplomatic AI. I only started playing after BNW so I dodget the old iteration, but I never felt like AI was irrational in 5. In 6 I just utilise gunboat diplomacy.

>>158792846
I was playing on king,
note this is the first game I actually completed, I played a few other games testing out civs then switched to king When I really liked Pericles.

>>158792870
I played incredibly passively, I only lost about 6 units total and killed about 10 non barb units, I only warred with brazil.

>>158794801
>I played incredibly passively, I only lost about 6 units total and killed about 10 non barb units, I only warred with brazil.

How boring

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>>158793678
Amenities are the new luxes, you need more and more amenities as your cities grow taller. One amenity spreads to up to 4 cities (6 if you are Aztec) and they somehow get distributed automatically to lowest amenity cities you have. This means that there's really no penalty for settling wide as long as you find an amenity or two once per 4 cities. It should be noted that additional copies of a lux resource don't give any extra amenities to more than 4 cities - even though Firaxis claimed otherwise pre-release - they are only for sale. The biggest growth blocker in the game is housing - unless you settle on fresh water your housing is gonna be shit and your cities will never grow. There are some minor bonuses to housing in the early to mid game, but first true boost comes late down the line with Urbanisation civic (Kongo gets them earlier, which makes them pretty good).
Some districts (or buildings you can build in them to be precise, like factories) do give you bonuses in a certain radius, some districts don't, it's usually mentioned in the description.

District costs scale with tech. Yes, not with the number of cities you settle, not with the number of districts you build, but with your tech and civic progress - the more developed you are the harder it is for your dudes to build those districts. You do get a 25% discount on a particular district if your civ has less than an average amount of that type though. Source for that info is on civ reddit, someone posted info from the game files there.
The most useful districts are the dosh districts and production districts, first gives you an extra caravan (and internal traderoutes are super important), second lets you build shit in less than 40 turns on standard. You can build more districts as your cities grow taller and if your civ has a unique district it can build that one for free, ignoring the population requirements. Also all unique districts only require 50% of the normal production cost.

>>158794959
Yeah, I think this game has a lot more potential but I'd rather play civ 5 as of the moment, in VI Civs declare war a lot more often but surrender after you kill like 3-5 of their units even though their total army power is at least 5x more powerful.
This game took my about 5 1/2 hours to complete in total, I played it straight too.

>>158769368
desu stellaris is a really pretty game

which is surprising, coming from paradox

I really despise how wars in civ are all in all the time. You either maintain a token military, just enough to defend your border and only war to remove a settler, or you go full hitler and wage endless war an all fronts. No compromises, no exceptions. This leads to simcity gameplay becoming stale repetitive and all in all fucking chore. Or you essencially axe 1/2 of the game out and just see how quickly you can take all capitals.

Maybe I just should take a break from civ and finally go dive into distant worlds.

Anyone else play until they start winning and then quit and try to do it better?

>>158797142
nah, cus i'm winning from minute one boyo

>>158797291
hell yeah

>>158796730
>>158795151

I've began starting my game in the Renaissance on small maps with maxed civs. It makes for an all-around more interesting game. All the fun exploration of the early game, none of the grind of the late game (because by the time you get to late game, it's like a regular mid-game.

>>158764997
I got a question about civ vi. I'm playing england and it says the Sea Dog can capture enemy units but i can't figure out how that works and i can't find anything about it on google. anyone figure it out?

>>158781826
Let me renew trade routes and defensive spies infinitely without my input.

>>158766909
He's had a fleet get stuck MIA, so he's modified the save and sometimes they do this weird thing where they appear there or fly to there I can't remember, and it reveals part of the map there that's normally left dark all the time.
It happened to me when I edited my save to recover the MIA fleet.

all i ever want to do is play russia

>>158798174
Rome player here. I can't go back to normal roads and lack of glorious obelisks. Settling without obelisks is truly barbaric.

>>158798174

Russia is a pretty good generalist. A tad weak, since most of their power is put into Tundras+Holy Sites. Religion is one of the easist victory conditions though and they can go off.

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>>158798453
>tfw wont play rome because i dont want to be an old cuck

Hello
I'm not sure if this is the correct thread to ask but, can someone recommend me a good city builder? I'm looking for something with similar graphics to rise of nations and a large focus on economy. Thanks.

>>158798995
>not roleplaying it as the beta uprising

>>158799295
Dota 2 is right up your alley, friend.

>Meet Gilgamesh
>immediately restart because surviving the billions of warcarts is impossible
this is legitimately the most retarded thing i've had to put up with in the game

>finally get a good start
>things are going well
>realize I forgot to turn hyperlanes only on

FUCK.

Back to restarts then.

>>158799905
Easily defeated by strategic archers

Does the AI ever approach you to buy strategic resources in VI?

Actually I heard diplomacy was fucked, do the AI even approach you at all?

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>>158799830

>>158765272
Waaaait, Sega owns Amplitude now?

RIP.

>>158798174
>>158798453
>played first game as barbarossa
>got a taste of the power of hansas
>now all other civs feel like playing on a slower game speed

>>158800316
They'll approach you to denounce you anytime you declare any kind of war, joint wars included, and they'll approach you to declare war themselves once you've been denounced enough.

Oh, I forgot, they'll also approach you to try to make ridiculously bad trades where you give away multiple luxuries for a pittance. Though there's apparently an exploit in the trading system you can abuse.

>>158800027
What do you consider a good start in Stellaris? Just a decent home planet with good resources in the home star system? Or do you wait even longer and judge the immediate neighour systems too?

>>158799295
have you tried cities skylines?
it's more city sim and less economics, though

>>158800742
Needs at least three stars, including the home system, in the starting control area.

I prefer four or more stars, though.

>>158800953
Not yet, i was going for banished but i'm gonna give skylines a look, also, wasn't there a city building general in /vg/?

>>158800416
Since July I believe

>>158801085
fucking pussy just play it out. There could be a ton of juicy systems right next to your borders

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oh jeez

this probably won't end well

>>158801363
There could be.

Or there could be multiple star systems blocked off by aggressives or other empires. Or I could have a fallen empire right on my borders. Or there could be absolutely fucking nothing outside my borders.

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Holy shit my farts are stinking today

>play as Peter
>focus on culture and science to deter people with a strong defensive military
>getting great people out the ass
Can someone explain how to actually use all these fucking great artists and musicians and writers? I never have enough slots to use them all in while I get like 20 of them.

>>158801587
It's actually pretty cool, depending on your ethics you can get it to give you bonuses.

>>158801587
Stick your dick in it.

>>158801587
I love this event/encounter.

>>158801987
Go wider. More cities=more theater districts= more slots for GPs. Also make sure you build every wonder with extra great work slots, and I really hope you picked cathedrals as your religious building.

>>158802193
>cathedrals as your religious building
Didn't even think about that, I'll try that next time. I'll be going for a big dick domination win though.

How many tiles will your borders expand away from your city?

>>158802286

Cathedrals only have reliquary slots afaik.

>>158795091
So build a science district first, then go for the production district?

Also what are the good techs/civics?

>>158802337
Civ 6. I forgot to mention.

>>158802286
Yeah cathedrals are really useful for Russia since each one has a spot for religious artwork, which most medieval and renaissance artists produce, and frees up space in museums later on. There's also a great merchant that builds a bank with art slots which is cool to get.

>>158802449
The have a religious art slot, temples have reliquary slots.

>>158764997

Are there any general purpose event-content mods for Stellaris? Just shit to make space exploration interesting and varied.