/civ4xg/ - Civilization, Stellaris, Endless and 4X Games General

Where can I check my luxs from trade? I forget which ones I have or not and it doesn't tell me when the trade deal fucking ends either

>>158734435
I hate this guy so fucking much.

I am fond of Cleo.

Reminder to encourage and fondle pigposting.

>>158734435

What were they thinking indeed. IRL this guy was probably the most boring guy to be around ever.

>>158734537
Same All I have to do is ignore her pig face.

>>158734537
Half the time I do random civ, I end up with Egypt.

What the fuck is this shit, I don't even like that civ?

I am never again starting a game on max size anymore. This is totally gay.

I think Im going for a game where I try to beat the diplomacy game somehow.

>>158734565
(Denounces You)

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>>158734537
And she isn't fond of you.

>>158734606
we

>>158734565
You're not fond of pigs?

>>158734606
She's so expressionless

>>158734435

Reposting from last thread :

>The new district meta is to literally shit down districts in all your cities the second they are unlocked to get the lowest price possible
>The new settling meta is to get everything done before Classical because production costs go insane past them
>The new builder meta is to build as many of them early as possible, and if possible to beeline to Serfdom to get the best ones
>The new tech and civics meta is to ignore every single tech which doesn't lead to the endgame, maybe with the exception of Archers (and even then, you can Horseman spam and hard research Crossbows)

Who is best husbando and why is it Gil

>>158734606
Is she cross-eyed?

I swear to god she seems cross-eyed to me.

>>158734656
Just like her Civ5 self she only has the slut expression.

>>158734685
Harald, Gilgamesh, Teddy and Peter are the only good choices for husbandos desu

>>158734781
Comfiest games I play are as Harald

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>>158734656
>my feet hurt
>this dumbass doesn't even have an army
>Gandhi with his nuclear bullshit again
>making Ra-Kedet great again, one stolen wonder at a time
>tfw chariots only fall off in Renaissance

Best soundtrack https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U7q99etgJ6M
But, is it just me or are there no region-specific music anymore? Like in Civ V there was music for Europe, the middle east, east asia and so on, but I have only heard civilization-specific music in Civ VI

>>158734781
>no Phil

>First game of Civ 6
>On immortal
>Randomed into Tomyris
>Notice early on while fighting barbarians my units are nearly immortal due to healing after scoring a kill
>Rush horses
>Producing 4 horse archers every 3 turns from one city
>Every other Civ has mostly warriors still while
my massive army crushes the entire world
I think the Scythians might be a bit overpowered. I can't wait to see what multiplayer is like.

>>158734679
>mfw Vox Populi reduces the cost of previous era buildings
>civ6 increases it instead
RIP any "colonization of America" scenario with such meta. Also literally promotes expansion through warmongering instead of settling past Classical era.

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Dead diary,
Jackpot!

>>158734862
>that chin
Oh god.

>>158734909
>Scythians
Scythians are currently the strongets everything and literally the strongest civ, only slightly contested by maybe germany.

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>>158734862
I think it's all civilization-specific this time. There IS ambient non-theme music. Could be a lot more, though, I hope modding can open up soundtrack extension.

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What determines Unbidden spawnrate? I decided to try to headshot the portal, only to have these two fleets fight non-stop for a year straight as 280k stacks of Unbidden keep spawning when a current fleet is about to go down, to the point where I think I've blown up at least 1.5mil worth of Unbidden in that system alone, though I won't be able to keep it up at this rate.

I don't remember them spawning this crazy fast in 1.2.5.

>>158734978
>germany
Alright, explain this to me.
From what I understand, Hansas trade mine /quarry adjacency for Commercial hubs. They have a shitty CS bullying ability and a useless unit. What's so good about that?

>>158734984
Civ V had such an excellent soundtrack, wonder why they went backwards in that regard
Suppose it was because they made era-specific music for all individual civs this time
I like how they tease us in that regard though in the sense that you can hear Civ V music from amphitheaters

>>158735060
That hansa gives godly production if you use good placement

hey just a quick question, is there a button to turn on and off a cities boundaries?, i ask because, not my game runs properly, but for some reason i cant see where my, or anyone elses borders are, theres just no indicator.
if theres a border button maybe i just hit it if not, its likely another bug isnt it?

>>158735060
Read the production bonuses and try them out.
You get to many hammers that can keep up even with Tomyris silly produce 2horses/2helicopters->sell them->buy stuff you wanted to have.

>you know how China's UA allows them to speed the construction of wonders by expending builders?
>how about we give everyone that ability
>but also it works on everything
what were they THINKING?

>>158734953
Oh look, a do-it-yourself instant city-pack. Capture those babies and just lay 'er down.

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Blue line shows how far I can move my fighters.

Fighters have 14 movement, but if they end a turn outside a carrier, airstrip or city they die.
Attacking costs 1 movement.
I have 53 Stealth Fighters and over the course of the game I've lost 39 of them.
I have some defending all my cities, and each turn I move some of them out hunting enemy units.

There's fog of war of sorts, but it's not visible in the game. The enemy units in the red circles that are fortified are there, but there may be other units around them. If they moved those units during their turns I would lose vision over them.
Since they're mechanized infantry behind fortification I avoid attacking them with my fighters.
I also avoid attacking into rougher terrain depending on the unit. Tanks/Marines I attack when they're on flatland. Helicopters, Spies and Stealth Bombers I always attack unless they're grouped behind fortification.


In the purple circle there's a stack of chinese units that have been attacking the wall.
If I attack into it I will fight 1 of their units, if I win, the entire stack dies.
If they were in a city or behind fortification only 1 of them would die.
I don't need to use my fighters for those since they're adjacent to the walls, I will instead use a Howitzer to take them out.

The forts with mechanized infantry in the brown outlined area are temporary forts.
They are there to protect the engineers that are bringing down the mountains.
Eventually they'll look like the red outlined area and I'll move back.
I do this since Mountains and Hills have heavy defensive bonuses.
300% strength defending in mountain, 200% strength defending in hills. If they attack me and end their turn on plains rather than Mountains I have an easier time taking them out.

Pink circle shows an Egyptian AEGIS Cruiser.
They have double strength vs missiles and air.
When they get close I move out battleships to take them out.

Tomyris Agenda: Likes civilizations who declare friend. Hates civilizations who backstab and declare surprise wars.

So how do I befriend her in the first place?

>>158735060
Hansas are a special district and dont count towards your total number of districts. It also builds instantly.

Germany allows you to have one additional district to that.
Every city in the HRE has a commerciel hub, hansa, campus as a basic and produces science, hammers and traderouts/gold.

>>158735127
Can you post a pic

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>>158735060
>he doesn't know about precision German engineering

>>158735243
If the battleship is too wounded to move back into the port I move out AEGIS Cruisers to cover it because the following turn the AI will go berserk and start to send Cruise Missiles at the battleship.
I send more AEGIS Cruisers since they have so many missiles that after a few of them the cruiser will go down.
If I have more the AEGIS Cruisers will take turns fighting each Cruise Missile though and I can save the Battleship.

The Blue Circles show where the Chinese Stealth Bombers or chinese ships like to attack.
Yellow circles show where the Egyptian Stealth Bombers like to attack.
White circle shows where the roman and babylonian stealth bombers like to attack.

Not enough housing just fucks up many settlements desu. I wish some how the wonders gave it

>>158735249
>>158735315
What in the god damn

>>158735407

Make more farms.

>>158735303
pardon, it seems to have solved itself after reloading an old game.. i have no fuckin clue.
thankyou for the potential aide nonetheless.

>>158735249
>It also builds instantly
I'm fairly confident I just spent a good amount of time building hansas.

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WE

>>158735763
You didn't build them early enough then.

>Frederick decide to chimp out because I sent an envoy to some shithole
>For the third fucking time
>u din it nao frederick
>Steamroll his troops and get to his capitals in two turn
>Peace plx
>No fuck off
>Have to his shit in until he literally beg for peace while offering everything he have for him to finally calm down

jesus fuck

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>>158735445

>>158735893
I don't understand.

>>158734862
They're age and civ specific.

I mostly hear my own civ's music and then some from my neighbors.

I miss hearing them classical tunes when playing euro civs in Civ V

>>158736082

Districts get more expensive depending on your total progress in the most advanced of either the tech or civics tree

The maximum is 10x if you finished a tree, aka 600 production per district

If you could build a district at the start of the game (which you can't in my knowledge), it would cost 60 production

>>158736096
>victoria forward settles birmingham right next to my capital
>she declares a surprise war on me
>just calmly let her waste her warriors in my fortified spearmen as I snipe her off with my archers
>she went from #1 army to last place
>take her city

PEDRO HAS DENOUNCED YOU FOR WARMONGERING

And that was the moment I decided my continent needs a lot of ethnic cleansing.

>>158736143
ive never heard this. ive only heard the price increases globally for every district built, which includes city centers. was that changed?

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Dear /civ4xg/.

Because I cant afford Civ VI right now and because of some negative opinions out there, I decided to replay Civ V for fun.

What map settings and mods would give me most comfy and longest game, without 10m long turns in later game? Also, is turn time linked to map size or nuber of civs?

I tried this PerfectWorld script, but it often gave me weird results, like starting blocked by mountains from two sides and two other civs from another sides or starting in completely isolated part of the world, without any good spots for city founding.

Also, is there a way to exclude some civs from random choice? I mean, I dont want to manually select civs all the time, but at the same time I would rather want to comfy get Great Library, Hanging Gardens or Artemis Temple without having Ramzes outrun me or found religion without Boudica being the fastest.

Oh and who would be better for comfy run, avoiding wars and focusing on inner growth? Celts or Mayans?

Thanks for replies!

Oh and are there any good BALANCED anime-themed Civs? Hidamari Sketch one was fun to play and not too much overpowered (-15% culture and gold costs of buying tiles. Wonders produce an additional +1 culture, happiness, gold, and science,. Starting settler is always within 3 tiles of Marble - last part never worked on PerfectWorld).

>>158736143
That makes no sense. The basic districts don't even provide that much bonuses.

Thy should scale the production of the buildings upgrade so that it doesn't take a shit ton to place a district and a library down but it does to upgrade it to a university.

Does the game not warn you when a barbarian encampment spawns or am I missing them? This will ruin about two of my cities

>>158736292
Fuck off anime shitter.

>>158736337
If you hear a "HOO HAH" a barb camp just spawned

>>158736337
It gives you a message in the right part of the screen but it doesn't completely telegraph it like Civ V did with the noise and easy to see warning.

>>158736261

Some digging has been done in the files and it's a tech scale, not a per district scale

The only global scaling is that if you have less districts that the global average, your districts of that type are 25 % off until you catch up

>>158736321

Buildings aren't scaled (or at least don't appear to be), which is probably why district building times appear fucked in the late game

>>158736096
I liked playing as middle eastern civs in V just for the music tbqh
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V6qgxvOyQTk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V6qgxvOyQTk

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>>158736486

wait i can build (usable) submarines without steel? hell of a trick

>>158736556
Same link twice, my bad, meant this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y94ECh6B2lU

>>158736392

Then ignore that spoiler part and just help with the main part.

My personal favorite would be running biggest possible map, with biggest possible numer of civs, but that would kill any rig.

>>158736586
>getting overruled by the senate
>not being a glorious fundamentalist theocracy
>not rolling the world with your carpet of torch-wielding fanatics

>>158736556
Jewrope had the best war music too
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0P6em8hTchY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M8WEaGSSd58

>>158736653
>not being immune to bribes
why do you hate freedom anon?

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>>158736392

>>158736430
>Some digging has been done in the files and it's a tech scale, not a per district scale

to add to this, the scale is set to 1000 and i'm guessing that this adds up to things being 10 times as expensive (1000%) by the time you've filled either tree

settlers, religious units and builders have a cost multiplier based on # previously built instead. 20% for settlers and 4% for builders iirc

i just deleted the costprogression tags. made the game much more fun.

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>>158736392

>open borders with enemy civ
>send workers to their territory
>chop their woods
>production bonus goes to my city

this is so evil

>>158736717
Yeah
wtf firaxis, why remove this great music
I guess all their effort went towards sogno di volare, would rather have great in-game music than a powerful main theme tbqh

>>158736802
Normally I should be angry at the fact that they had terrible defaults, but then I feel glad that all their shit can be fixed by merely altering stuff in the lua or xml.

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>>158736392

>>158737112

the balance is pretty much fucked from ground up and it's gonna take a lot of hours to fix it properly since the foundation is shit

a bunch of shit is hardcoded too

who /fond of pigs/ here?

>>158736939

should require the colonialism civic

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>Civ VI
>STILL can't tell the Ai to fuck off for clearly massing units for an attack at your border
>STILL can't tell them to stop foward settling the fuck out of you

What's the build order for Sumer? War cart into a worker into war cart spam until I feel compelled to stop? Or do I just skip the worker and buy one when I capture a city with my war carts?

>>158737330
That little girl has like 4 arms.
What's up with that?

Is it worth getting the game now or wait until a price reduction and a few DLCs?

>>158737509
No she doesn't.

>>158737492
Would you listen to the AI in their place?

I thought not.

>>158736802
>>158736430
So wait number of districts and number of citis and pop are 100% irrelevant?

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>>158735051
not sure, i guess it spawns as soon as other fleet dies?
Do what i did, which was, make a fucking nigger run speed beeline for portal when their fleet is occupied with other civs

>>158737492
>>STILL can't tell them to stop foward settling the fuck out of you
You can. Usually AI just ignores that and still settles in-between your cities though.

>>158737612
Lindafag, please.

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>tfw gandhi wants a joint war with china
>denounces me for accepting

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>>158737681
>getting roped into a war from a defensive pact counts as surprise war
>get denounced by everyone for it

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>>158737413

>>158737595

Pretty much

If you're going to settle, it's early or never. You could already tell that from the general feeling of the game though (late settles are dead and rip, you'll never make them productive)

Once that's over, your only recourse is outright conquering enemy cities with districts

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in an unexpected turn of events germany surrendered to france and then france immediately declared war on me
all my units are low tech, should i pay the fine for the mercenary card that reduces upgrade cost by 50% or is it feasible to wait two turns so i can switch for free?

will hojo betray me

we've been allies since the early turns

if he backstabs me i kill myself irl

>>158738131

Why they couldnt really make it properly balanced?

Even district-based system of Endless Legend is better, based on what I heard about Civ VI.

And why they still cant provide special type of settler that change with each era and when making a city, already provide certain basic buildings, based on your tech advance?

Call to Power 2 had something like that in late game.

>>158738243
nippon wa honoraburu

>>158738212

you've got civil engineering walls so you should be fine unless he rolls up a bunch of cats

>germany surrendered to france and then france immediately declared war on me

napoleon.txt

>>158738271
>Why they couldnt really make it properly balanced?

because their producers and designers are incompetent

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>>158738243
Does this look like the face of a man who'd ever betray you, anon?

>>158738314
i never got around to building ancient walls or defenses of any kinds for any of my towns, so they're a bit weak on that front

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Reminder Korea is degenerate.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aP7E_PQ6jGc

>playing in deity
>rushing wonders like a motherfucker as China
>turn 25 Sparta has like 3 cities up already AND completed Pyramids
ok, cheating AI sure is fun

how do we fix district costs?

>>158735873
WUZ

>>158738507

*south korea

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>>158738507
Reminder to update to more recent memes

>>158738623
North is degenerate as much, but in the different direction.

need to build a fucking road to my city but trader takes the sea route... wtf do I do now?
isn't there a way to force them to take land?

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>when the barbarians fuck you so bad you have to recruit a great general
From my first impressions, in harder difficulties other civs are not really problems, but barbs are

>>158738623
*worst korea
>>158738668
*best korea

Mind your pronouns.

>>158738550

remove the CostProgressionModel="COST_PROGRESSION_NUM_UNDER_AVG_PLUS_TECH" CostProgressionParam1="25" property

(guess i misremembered the value, it's housing that has COST_PROGRESSION_GAME_PROGRESS @1000)

change Cost="60" to Cost="120"

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>>158736292

Please respond ;_;

>>158738548
On Deity AI starts with 3 cities.

>>158738757
mayans

>>158738550
I would say just make them static. Could you imagine if you had to wait like fifty turns in civ V just to build a market?

>>158738550
Scale them off the global era and reduce the multiplier drastically.

>>158738752
what exactly does this do, im not previous anon

>>158738757
Your choice of font angers me.

>>158738854
>>158738752
So just double initial cost and keep it static? That slows down early game a bit, but not hugely. What about increasing cost per district in city?

>>158738902
Currently it about triples. What'd you suggest, maybe 20% per era?

what does forming corps do? what about the individual unit level? should i form a corps before or after upgrading them?

>>158738921

districts will always cost 120 production

for some bizarre reason it also removes scaling from resource harvesting and forest/jungle chops, so you might want to bump those up too

>>158738813
feels like playing China is hot garbage then if they're just going to beat me to every early game wonder

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>>158738589
KANGZ!

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>we literally just met
>he already sends death threats
What the fuck, guy?

>>158738942

Choice? Thats default in my version.

>>158738996
He's still buttmad about FUCKING DROWNING

>>158738968
Civpedia might be shit, but it actually explains this

>>158738996

he's clearly saying that he's very happy he won't have to hurt you. entirely benign.

>>158738996

Was that Jerusalem by any chance ?

>>158738665
what

>>158736292
YNAEMP Earth Map is the biggest map for Civ V. Don't download the steam version, find the JFD's most updated version on civfanatics and download that one

For longer games there are multiple historical speed mods, try one of them. Also I think you can exclude civs in Advanced Settings mod, I never used not sure

>>158738952
>What about increasing cost per district in city?

can't, the GAME_PROGRESSION_MODELs are hardcoded

>>158738952
>Currently it about triples.
But it caps at 10x if you max either of trees.
2.5x/3x tied to global era (with notification once it switches, akin to EL) won't punish science/culture leads much as the current system.

>>158738457
he was my bro but tomyris defeated him
I haven't forgotten you ;_;

>>158739061
If you're going to sling shit at the gooks then sling more recent shit.

>>158739034
there's a first time for everything i suppose

>>158736292
Have you not done the Nep mods?

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How do I get people to stop hating me in Civ 6? Scythia asked me to go to a joint war and I agreed and now I have a billion warmongering penalties. I want to be friends again for research agreements but the AI is being a prissy bitch about it. we're already at peace again

>will you go to war with me rome-sama
>sure no problem we're buddies
>HOW COULD YOU BETRAY ME BAKA

>>158739273

don't bother, there is no reasonable way. embrace the everwar

>>158738968
It combines two units of the same class for higher stats. Personally I'd rather have three tanks than one with 20-30% more firepower.

>>158739273
Are you still in a war? Liberate some shit. Though from my experience liberation bonuses are very small compared to warmponger penalties, you'll have to liberate shitload of cities

>>158734201

It's all over, Anon.

>>158738968
>>158739349

frontage is a damn precious resource though

>>158738987
>>158735873
>>158738589
Not to stop your memes but you do know the Nubians were a part of egypt right?

>>158739385
like... why? who thought this was a good programming decision?

Shitting out cities after being stuck with Civ V's 4-6 cities strategy feels weird lads

Captcha: WARDONG BULLINGTON

>>158739269

Neps are overpowered. More or less, depending on author.

>>158739547
>4-6 cities
TOO MANY SENPAI

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i don't even know what to say

nice game firaxis

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What was his workout routine like?

>>158739619
>he doesn't like precise movement calculations

>>158739651
>natty

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>>158739547
Fun times

>>158739651
Walking around with all that medal he's wearing is probably enough

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>>158739674

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>>158739619
bravo

someone jacking a wonder from you should give you something like it did in civ 5, not getting anything feels like bullshit

>>158734435
Why is Philip so animated?

>>158739781

it's got gameplay implications too because a unit with 0,0078125 movement left can still shoot

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>>158739651
rough sex

>>158739831
All leaders got the Pixar treatment.

I am trying to mind my own business on my island and Trajan forward settles right outside my fucking capital.

Why the fuck is there no option to preempt a war to force unwanted colonists off your fucking land?

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>>158739802
>building wonders

Thats your fault anon. You probably build religion too. Just forget wonders and religion exist and git gud.

>>158739872

it's ridiculously masturbatory/self-indulgent by the artists

>>158737647
>Lindafag
who?

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>>158739872
Yes but none of them quite have that Philipean essence. Look at this boring red-bearded faggot for instance, just an awkward droid in plate armor.

It's turn 122, I conquered a neighbour, am settling my 12th city right now and only other person on the continent has only two cities, which he conquered and not settled. What the fuck is AI doing?

On king difficulty and that other civ is Scythia btw

>>158739930
>forget religion exist
>this is what shitters actually believe

>>158739942
Polish weeb from another general.

>>158739942
A slav.

>>158739954
>What the fuck is AI doing?

building five million worthless spearmen

>>158739982
From /tsg/? I rarely go there but I know someone named Lindafag exists there

>>158739950
It's the clothing and the giant chin on Philip that make him quite unique.

>>158739871
With Enkidu. While Ishtar watches and cries out of jealousy.

>>158740030
/nepgen/

>>158740012
Tomyris is guilty to the highest degree. It's 2000s and I still see her 15+ archers moving from sea to land in a circle.

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>>158739967
Current religion system is useless. You get it to generate more religion point to fight for your religion and nothing else.

You waste district and hammers/money/science that you could get instead. GP are shitty too and you can buy them easly with gold if you want.

Step it up and tip your fedora, its the only way now.

>>158740012

>AI waste eras building shitty warrior units

I wish this meme would end just so I can have peace of mind sometimes.

>>158740047
No, my image implied the participants.
With King Arthur

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How to make Norway great?
Longboat spam and robbing every civ around you blind while trying to get a great prophet?

>>158740096
>can buy buildings, units or GP with faith
>this is somehow bad

>>158740096
I appreciate your posts my man but
>GP are shitty
is a step too far.

>>158739651
wrestling lions

>>158740120
Wait until the expansion in which they attempt to make naval cities and combat important. And by expansion I mean mod.

>>158740119
Gilgamesh only fucks his bros. And that anime hoe don't look like a bro

>espionage is lackluster
>religion is boring
>literally no world congress
Please give us BNW-esque expansion first, Firaxis. The late game is shite.

>>158740272

I need my world congress as well.
Nothing like putting embargos on that asshole civ that fucked with you throughout the early-mid game.

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>>158740120
Build a great fleet only to find out no civ has build a coastal city.

Then you realize you could be playing a strong independent flat-nosed woman of horse economics and rob every civ around you in a more relieable way.

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>>158740064
What's /nepgen/?

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this hardly seems fair
it's not even a corps

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>>158739982
>>158740002
funny thing cause i am polish too, wew

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>>158740389
Weeb shit.

>>158740120
IIRC in Civ V Harald had a bonus, your embarked units didn't lose any moves after you moved them to land. And because how ridiculously high naval movements get, your units would have like 6-7 moves. It would be great in this game

>>158740189

he's right though. the few exceptions don't make up for the rest

well unless you're peter since they're basically free then

>>158740517
I just noticed both "viking" leaders in V and VI are called Harald. Is this game pushing a pro-Harald agenda?
Also both of them talk about Norse mythological shit despite being Christians.

>>158740407
>your unit is two eras ahead
>you're flanking that guy from two sides
>boosted via policy
i don't see anything wrong here.

>>158740407
>turn 123
>1670 AD
>non-crippled king AI can't manage better troops than swordsmen

>>158740590
>firaxis in charge of history

>>158740590
I wouldn't have anything against Pro-Harald agenda honestly, I think it's a good name

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>>158740261
She spent her entire life being a reverse-trap so she has bro-experience.

>>158740636
If it wasn't lucky enough to find some iron you'd be fighting a warrior, anon.

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>>158740468
Doesn't seem that bad.

>>158740272
>BNW-esque
You mean an expansion that kills early game war and imposes weird limits on wide empires? Nah man.

Has anyone actually lost to an AI doing a science or domination victory yet?

It seems like they literally can't do it

>>158740636
Don't know about you guys but in my games the AI don't upgrade their units. It makes me laugh when they send archer and horses after declaring war in 2000s.

>>158740680
Weebshit and waifufaggotry tend to go together, so it's basically par for the course.

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>>158740809
Why do you bring waifufaggotry into this?

>tfw I want to get into Civ but my computer is a toaster and I'm probably going to have to resort to YouTube but I don't know what to watch

Hidamari Sketch Civ - go tall or wide?

>>158740716
The only way to really lose is if you get obliterated.
I dont think the AI has ever really achieved a real victory con against me thats not RUSH HIS 1 CITY BEFORE HE HAS ARCHERS

>>158740969
Did you check the general?

>>158740982
Watch DarkSydePhil.
You'll learn what not to do.

>>158740982
>I'm probably going to have to resort to YouTube but I don't know what to watch
lol wtf, that's stupid

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>>158741016

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>>158739273
>How do I get people to stop hating me in Civ 6?
You don't. The AI will hate you just for existing. Even in the extremely rare case you ever manage to get a friend, or even an ally, they will always stab you in the back the first opportunity they get. Seriously, I have never once had a friend/ally in my game that didn't end up declaring surprise war at me at some point, despite doing everything in my power to maintain good relations.

Just treat every game as it was Always War with the occasional lull in action, because that's the only way the AI ever makes any fucking sense in this game.

Yes, I'm mad, thank you for asking.

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>>158741016

is this a trick question?

>>158741061
Is he streaming sometime soon? I've gotta see that.

>>158740982
How toaster we talking here?
Civ isn't too complicated, it's all apparent on a basic level you just get better at managing what you need to when you need to. It's something you'll naturally improve at. Don't fall for the Let's Play meme. Maybe the opening few episodes of a deity game if you want to try deity, but that's about it.

>>158741061
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tEbHp89iCaM

>>158741048
Do I look like I'm a /nepgen/ regular? I'm asking why you bring waifufagging into this when it was about people kurwa'ing.

>>158741237
He's called lindafag because a character called Linda is his waifu.

>>158741237
>Do I look like I'm a /nepgen/ regular?
Yes, you literally use images as avatars.

>>158741302
Still not getting your point, but whatever, let's talk about Civ and ignore the disgusting video >>158741216 posted.

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>multiplayer is the only way to play civ 6 endgame with competent threats
>no friends

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>>158738996
>this happens 20 turns later, right after he forward-settles me
Never trust a german.

>>158741404
What is wrong my dude?
he's just doing some grip training.
You'd be visibly worn out too.

>>158741459
Just make some friends familia.
Your opening line there:
>multiplayer is the only way to play civ 6 endgame with competent threats

Just ask around for people who feel the same way. You'll find some.
Maybe play with some.
Maybe make one friend out of ten. Maybe make a few beta orbiters that just accept you aggressively forward settling on them like the cucks they are.
Don't bitch without first having tried.

Is there a stellaris 1.3.1 download patch somewhere?

Who else back to Civ V?

Wait a second Tomyris AI gives me relationship boosts if I rape the ever living shit out of other AIs surprise warring me? Oh boy

>finally gettin past 20 years in stellaris without gettin whipped out by some shit or another
>oy a robawt shot up some place
fug, remove robawts nao!
>an months later
>oy, we trans-human nao! enjoy your riots.
o kurwa, why is this game so hard? I just want a peaceful white-only human space.

btw, should i bother takin down these skull memes? Are the techs they give good?

>>158741168

Yes.

>>158741101

Okay, so far formed 4 cities in single line across the continent I spawned on.

Go wider?

>>158741670
Present. I'll try playing VI for an hour before getting frustrated and going back to V. Mods and maps are a selling point as well.

>>158738996
Frederick go ballistic if you have ANY contact with any City State.
That include merely discovering them.

>>158741858
One of them gives amazingly good tech.
Others give less but still substantial rewards.
Without the bonus from intel one casually wiped out 20k worth of fleet power(taking around 10% damage in return), so tread carefully.

>>158741670
I learned a bit about civ v before civ vi came out and now I forgot everything i learned and I dont want to learn it again

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>>158738996
He's basically designed to be impossible to get along with, isn't he? There seems to be less intentional cases of that with the other agendas, like Pedro's.

>>158740389
Why are Santa Clauses attacking that fort?

>>158742236
Lots of bad little boys and girls.

>>158742236
Because naughty little boys and girls have been hiding inside.

>>158741216
Laptop that lags on Sims 3 at points

Do we not have an online tech tree yet?

>>158742483
ts3 can lag hard on most systems if you've packed it full of all the expansions and shit.
the 'laptop' word don't bode well though.

>siege towers useful even late game
>cant build them instead have to use this one siege tower i built early game all game

>can't utilize eureka moments if i don't play on marathon since the tech goes by too fast
>game isn't stable at all on huge map + marathon

is there a way to see when alliance ends

>>158740753
Because it costs an absurd amount of gold to upgrade units and unless it's like a level 4 unit or something it's better to just delete it and rebuild it.

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>>158741131
What's the best civ to pick if I want to absolutely shitstomp every AI for being faggots?

>>158742483
sims 3 is an unoptimized piece of shit. It lags on every system, even nasa super computers.

>>158743104
Scythia is above and beyond what Babylon or Poland could ever dream of accomplishing.

>>158743104

schythia

it's also the best civ for any other purpose

>>158734606
>tfw got friendzoned by this bitch
>tfw she's not impressed by my army
>tfw demand her to gift me one of her cities and ask her to stop spreading her bullshit relligion in my towns, she says OK

what do you even want hoe

>>158741459
>civ 6 multiplayer
>endgame
the endgame of civ 6 multiplayer is horsemen. Every game you end up mass producing horsemen and slamming them into anything in sight.

https://discord.gg/ZfVry
/civ4xg/ discord! Just created yesterday, we are almost up to 10 people.
Trying to see if we can get a multiplayer going today, join up

>>158743262

But if you have 2 civs slamming horseman into each other, sometimes someone gets left alone to Sim City it up. Watched a streamer rush all the way to tanks and rolled over everyone.

>>158743163
>>158743203
>it's another "one civilization is league better than any other" episode

one fucking job firaxis

>>158734606
>Find her really early
>She immediately hates me because my army is weak
>My army is weak because my starting build wasn't warrior - warrior - warrior - warrior - warrior - warrior like hers

>>158741131
>allied with babylon
>hes paranoid and my army isnt the biggest
>start building up an army because japan is an aggressive faggot
>I dont like your army anon
>denounced a few rounds later
>called a warmonger
Welp

>>158743290

fuck off irc

Why do I cannot purchase missionaries even though I have a lot of faith and a temple? Am I only able to purchase it once?

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I made a huge dick with Great Wall today.

But seriously, this improvement sucks and I did it only because someone made a mod to build it outside your border. How the fuck is this a viable use of builders especially if they fix the OPness of chops?

>>158743347
Scythia is better at war because the premier fighting unit is horsemen and she gets two instead of one for every one she builds.
She also has the most actually retarded ability in that all her units have the heal thing that the jaguar in civ 5 had. ALL OF HER UNITS.
She also deals more damage if you are hurt.

She's also the best sim city civ because building 2 horse units per turn in every city and then deleting them and then just buying anything you need is faster than actually building buildings

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> Upgrading ships: 140%
Not even shitposting: what does it mean by this?

>>158743224
>she's not impressed by my army

Did you show her your little toy soldier, Anon?

>>158743431
you cannot faith buy religious units if the city doesnt have a majority religion

>>158743347
>you can sell units for 50% cost
>there's are policies that double cav production
>schythia gets 2-for-1 cav
>you can get discounted corps and armies
>these sell for 50% of full price as well
>oh and you can sell anywhere, whenever

and apparently the designers just didn't spot the problem

>have oodles of faith
>choose the government that lets you faith buy land units
>buy them with faith and then sell them for money
genius

>>158743512
I have no fucking idea. Sounds like a bug.

>>158743512
its a bug. Are you playing 1.3? thought they fixed that

>>158743507
I decided not to use Horseman Economics unless it's not fixed in the first patch like it should be.

In fact I don't sell units unless it's absolutely necessary. Producing them / faith buying just to sell for dosh is like cheating imho.

But even without Horseman Eco Scythia would be retardedly OP for that vampirism alone.

>>158743512
your planets port building queue should be displaying it properly

>civ6 nq mod version 1
>yield from chopping reduced by half
>you no longer get anything from selling shit
>various ui changes like time to border growth and removing all the obnoxious pop ups for wonders and eurekas and techs and shit

I like it so far.

>>158743601
yeah, when I was doing Saladin game when I faith bought shit to conquer the world I realised I have faith bought enough already and I can still sell those units for mad cash and just rush buy every building. Bravo, Firaxis.

>>158743545
Shit, my capital only shows my pantheon right now, not my religion. So what should I do?

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>>158743667
I am indeed.
And speaking of bugs, the bugs have been sat above my defenceless, virginal, unprepared planet for about 2 years now and just looked at it rather than anally ravaging it. So it wouldn't be the only bug. I know they did this in 1.0, but I thought it got fixed months ago?

>>158743749
Oh, cool, you're right. Thanks anon.

>>158743469

you should moisturize that stuff man

>1080p ui mod is crashing my game every time assault troops finish training
how can something like this even be a thing

>>158743776
is it up already? or it just the plan
>>158743847
if you haven't got another city with the religion you want and holy site w/ temple the religion is a goner.

>>158743865
same thing was happening in my 1.3.0 game, dunno about 1.3.1 just updated
they took some empty planets at the edge of my borders and then just stopped trying to progress

Does anyone have a gif of Victoria's angry animation where she flips her shit?

>>158743348
Go hard or go home, senpai.

>>158743469
How into Great Walls? Tried on my Chinese run and I frequently ran into tiles that I couldn't build a wall on.

>>158743847
holy cities radiate religious pressure of their founding religion naturally. You could wait a few turns and see what happens but if the outside pressure of other religions is too much it's gone unless you have another city where the religion still exists and has a holy site + temple.

>>158743776
UI needs a complete and utter overhaul, not changes. Something like Enhanced UI from V on steroids. Though really, Firaxis should fix that themselves.

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Does it suck?

>>158744397

It's very quickly made obsolete

>>158744392
Agree UI is my far the worst in series.

>>158744206
you can't build on luxes or strategics. Bonus resources can be removed while in borders.

Basically I started Huge Settler map, removed all AI but one, built Pyramids and made infrastructure (using chops) until Serfdom (7 charges per worker). Then just CHOP CHOP CHOP out builders, remove when 1 charge buy new builders woith 7 charges.

>>158744397
it doesn't have any impact on the game. By the time submarines come along the game is over and you're just going through the motions.

>>158743915
>>158744251
I only have a city state with my religion... I think I should just create a new game.

I thought i couldn't DOW allies?

I literally just walked into my allies capital as he's my last one for domination and DOW

>>158734862
I've definitely heard non-Civ theme music but I can't fucking find it anywhere.

>>158744553
you could conquer the city state and revive your religion. City states are laughably easy to take.

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>>158744562
>>158744427
Do you even Gilgamesh?

is democracy the best one

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>Scythia in my current game goes religion whereas I'm conquering the continent
This makes me question, does AI have variables like Civ V, or do they only act according to their main agenda and hidden agenda? In this game Scythia got Devout so this explains it. But isn't there anything written in her AI, saying something like "be warmonger". Making their AI completely dependent on random agendas sound pretty stupid imo

>>158743584

Or perhaps majority of testers liked Schythia or just wanted to have one civ ahead of others for their own gameplay purposes.

Not 4x related example, but in Dawn of War RTS game, Eldars had much more testers than other races and in the end, game was nickaned "Dawn of Eldar" for how they were insalely overpowered compared to everyone else.

>>158744846
I'd say it adds more replayability beyond "Oh I encountered nuke guy" or "Hey look friendly guy is asking me for resources"

>>158742663
>>158743135
TOSHIBA Satellite C55t-A
Intel (R) Core (TM) i3-4000M CPU @ 2.40 GHz
4.00 GB RAM
64-bit

I have no idea what any of those mean

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>>158744526
Thnaks, Anon. Going to reload and see what I can do.

>>158744923
Yeah but it also makes them completely useless. If Scythia isn't going to war anyone, I think all of their uniques go waste

>>158744923
This would be true if AI's was at least mildly competent at anything. They aren't

>>158744896
>not dark eldar
soulstorm was a mistake

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I could have been your buddy ;_;

deity is a joke beat it three times now

culture turn 180
science turn 175
domination turn 145

all 6 civs quick

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>>158734435
>play spain because the bonuses sound cool and i can be a meme man
>slowly realize playing spain is like playing with no bonuses at all and the whole point of the meme man is to see him react as an ai

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any news about the release of the mod tools?

>>158745159
Soulstorm's only advantage is that it's a stand-alone with all the races.

>>158745240
AI is worse than ever, it just gets more buffs to compensate

>>158745364
I think they get less buffs to scale late game than in civ 5

but early game they pretty strong with x3 settlers x3 builders x5 warriors + far ahead in both trees

Does anyone here have a copy of that shop someone did of some random mobile/facebook game with a ton of anime looking female civ leaders with "Civilization VI" posted above it?

"I saw a bank that said 24-Hour Banking, but I didn't have that much time"
What the fuck is the point of this quote

>>158745521
funnys ;^)

>>158745521
Making you laugh at how stupid americans are.

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The Turks are a hardy people

>>158745326
I dunno, I find DEldar being represented to such a degre in mainstream game an advantage all it's own. What other games let you have literal BDSM fetish faction in such a detail, outside of hentai.

>>158745521
DUDE

REFRENCES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

>>158745521
>tfw no wi-fi on Kilimanjaro

>>158743290
https://discord.gg/mrzsN
Renewed link for the interested

>>158745653
Being an actualy sadist (through I'm rather soft), I can tell you the DEldars aren't SM. They're edgy and cringy as fuck.

Imperial Guard forever.

Is there a way to tell why the AI in Civ decalres war on you?
I basically had Spain and England declares war on me during the same turn, and the only interaction I had with them is meeting.

No denouncations, no jackshit, just suddenly bam, war.

>>158745784
They just do that sometimes, though maybe you went against their agendas somehow.

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I'm about to introduce a friend to Alpha Centauri. Someone that has likely never played 4X before, or very little Civ back in the day.

How should I go about explaining the basics to him? He seemed really interested in the concept/atmosphere of it, so I'm obviously going to delve head first with that too. But I mean the mechanics side.

I've been playing 4X for so long that explaining it to somebody new now seems like a very strange proposition.

>>158745767
>They're edgy and cringy as fuck.
They are an amusing popculture take on BDSM culture. Of course they are inaccurate, much like star trek's representation of science is inaccurate, or Law&Order SVU representation of judicial system is cringe worthy. Its still amusing, at least to me.

>>158745938
That's your opinion, and you're free to be wrong.
For me, they look like the villains you write in a story you'd write while being still in school. I don't like them, and I love shooting them in the crotch.

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>it's a person who actually accomplished something
when people like this exist, why do companies more often than not make ridiculous logical leaps for others who accomplished literally nothing, like picking a roman emperor's wife when the wife was not a notable person beyond being his wife, or picking a historically insiginificant character because they were one of hundreds who served in a public role for a duration of time

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>victoria is known as an obese old woman
>turn her into a pudgy 19 year old

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>leader of greece is gorgo whose special ability is thermopylae
>not leonidas

how SJW is this?

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>>158746125
Everybody was young sometime.
I'm not complaining

>>158746087
To cater to SJWs who want strong, independent women.

>>158746125
Victoria was 19 once, before being old, you know?
Just pulling your leg here, I found it weird too.

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>>158746087
There's two angles to this.
The obvious one is that these games are made with a diversity quota because SJWs.
The alternative is that the Soviet Union was the original SJW state (where do you think Cultural MARXISM comes from) so Raskova probably didn't actually accomplish anything, but as a man who literally inspired 1984, Stalin's propaganda didn't just distort, but actually made up history to make her sound important. Because the Soviet Union had diversity quotas in their history books before it was cool.

>>158746308
Queens were allowed to rule in sparta, defying the other greeks