/scg/edg/ - Star Citizen and Elite: Dangerous General #83

>>158692940

best flea

but not best ship
not even best drake ship

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First for #RehabilitateTheRetaliator

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Space bullpups when edition

>>158692940
wow im literally dumb as fuck if i didnt notice the ATV was old

sorry lads

>>158693385
fuck bullpups when do I get spacenades and claymores

gimme da tech I want to ambush

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>>158692940
> Using the old concept version of the Herald
> Not using the glorious symmetrical new model

>>158694043
it will always be asymmetrical in my heart

both designs are great and i'd take either without a fuss tho. long as interior remains the same

>>158692940
>2.6 has been sent to avocado
Why do you LIE in every thread like that.

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>>158694043
Wait, which one is the final final model again ?

>>158694043
is that even the newest one? the webm that always gets posted looks darker and longer, and I haven't seen those flap outs in a long while

>>158694183
>>158692401
why don't you make a better OP when the thread is capped and dead :^)

>>158694183
but it has

>>158694212
that one. the one from the last video about it we saw with josh "gets a little bit of poon maybe" coonz, the lord and savior of drake interplanetary

>>158694396
maybe 1/4 of it has. theyve been testing various flight model changes for 2 weeks without touching star marine or testing new ships.

oy vey

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The latest update for Elite: Dangerous is paused because I don't have enough disk space. Is it worth freeing up some disk space for it? I only have the base game so I'm not sure if I can even access any of that updated shit.

Tally needs extra external missile pylons. Dont give the pilot any guns Imo, without sacrificing turrets for gun mounts, but he needs weapons to deal with threats other than the Belly torps.

>>158696953
passengers, new locations, visual upgrades and neutron stars are for everyone

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19th for cute ships.

Hey, I'm not very familiar with SC community so tell me if RSI will implement changes and add updates to the current, playable game over time until release then... what will actually change on the night of the game's release? Will they just expand the access everyone and the game in the finished shaped will be there for everyone who played it before release unchanged?

>>158697327
>what will actually change on the night of the game's release?

pigs will fly, for one

>>158697327
>what will actually change on the night of the game's release
Server wipe / reset, server maintenance, testing, etc.

It will probably have some kind of sale / free fly event on the website to celebrate too.

It might have some limited time dynamic event too, who knows.

>>158694396
Avocado patches so far:
2.5.1:slow ass flight changes
2.5.2:slow ass flight changes second pass
2.5.3:weapon and esp changes (no 3rd pass of flight changes yet because putting numbers in an xml file takes a lot of time to do)

>>158697465
not entirely true

not everything will be wiped on release
money you make during the beta will stay

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>>158692940

The Herald reminds me a lot of the Rheinland fighter from Freelancer.

>>158697035
Needs some vertical launch things

But then, CIGs physics code probably isn't up to it

>>158699058
thats perfectly untrue. beta money WILL be wiped. assets will not.

>>158697920
Bit shameful that SM still isn't out

CIG seem to just want to show off some spacecry engine work

>>158694278
The webm is of this Herald, the radar system is deployable

>Checking play times on Steam
>ED Is at 500 hours
>Got over my autism at 250 hours when I unlocked Cutter/Corvette half a year ago

Where the fuck did 250 hours come from?

>>158701332
I have a few hundred extra hours because of times I left the launcher open overnight

>>158693290
The Tali needs an overhaul badly if it's going to be competitive. The new Polaris just made it obsolete for it's purpose.

>>158700716
I think it's more like they gutted the Cryengine so much they are having issue making a proper FPS out of it now

>>158700478
what do you mean assets?

>>158702528
It really is the worst mess in the game now that even the cutlass is being rebuilt.

>>158702638
you will 99% sure guaranteed lose all ingame money youve earned, and all things youve bought with that money such as armor, weapons, some other shit i didnt know i could get from grinding icc

if it's not an account-bound item you own via real money or REC, it's going away @ 2.6 and likely every other alpha patch until absolutely everything is persistent and everything is UEC purchasable

>>158703341
I could have sworn they said you would be able to keep whatever you made on the beta

>>158702528
>obsolete for it's purpose.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Gv0H-vPoDc

>>158702528
>be the one ship thats not $750usd with torpedos
>nuke the fuck outa big cap ships
>leave, rearm, repeat until theyre dead enough

there should be zero usage of the turrets involved unless you fucked up and didnt do your speicific, niche job fast enough. retaliator is completely OK where it's at currently.

>poor people not understanding a specialialized bomber's role and whining about it not being a good enough figher

Watching RTV right now, this Hannes guy is actually way better than I'd have imagined.

>>158703697
beta is a very long ways off.

do not expect indefinite account persistence until
>all ingame jobs are available in the form of NPC jobs / player-to-player sales and jobs
>4.0 hits, maybe 4.1., game is "beta".
>pray that chris roberts releases a "final, 1.0 game" and doesnt send this game into his brand of alpha male autistic development hell for 4 more years when the game will be looking old on release

>dock at Cochrane Works for base assault missions
>mission board fucking empty in all modes

YOU SAID THERE WOULD BE MISSIONS
WHERE IS THE MISSIONS EGG-MAN

>>158708571
You're in the wrong thread fag, this is /scg/. You're allowed to talk about Derektile Dysfunction if you end your post with a Heil Roberts, though.

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>>158708914

Your ships with their subsonic engines and wet tissue paper hulls can suck it.

Also, FUCK.

>>158704189
>whining about it not being a good enough fighter.
because literally every other ship, including the corvette, giant space barge, and space oil tanker has pilot controlled guns on it. And because the retaliator was sold as being more than a defenseless npc torpedo boat.

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>>158709272
You've been stealth-banned from mission boards by Frontier for using exploits outside the light of Brabens Vision.

If i currently get only ~15 fps in PU is there any chance I will get atleast 30 fps when the new netcode rolls out? AC multiplayer currently hovers around 50-70 so i'm pretty sure it's my shitty cpu getting floodded by too much info from a server

>>158709707
I literally just said what the ship is designed to to, none of which has to do with anything other than firing torpedoes and getting the fuck out

the guns on the Retaliator are purely defensive, a luxury, even

>buying ships with questionable roles that you dont understand, with real money

>>158710784
Who knows. We have no idea what sort of improvements we'll actually see when they land the changes, so all we can do is guess. Easier to just wait and see.

158708914

Why do we have so many false flaggers? Especially false flaggers that are failures? Your threads failed so you're back here to start shit?

>>158706426
>when the game will be looking old on release

I actually hope it looks old on release. The gaming scene has been stagnant for far too long.

They are still releasing AAA games that dont look as good as crysys did back on the day.

>>158710784
if you're getting 50-60 in arena commander i'd expect to have that performance in the PU eventually.

the PU currently requires a benchmark rig from 3 years ago to run as wlel as it can. and we're talking absolute vanilla cryengine server tech. hopefully at 3.0, it's fixed. hell, i'll take +15 FPS average even

>>158710670

I only just started so I hightly doubt that when there are fags who exploited sothis for months without consequence.

>>158711160
SC won't look old by any stretch of the imagination. Only retards/shitposters think that today's graphical fidelity is going to be any better in two-three years.

>>158711673
->exploits
Oh, I didn't know Reddit posted here

>>158712123

It's all about the 0-day sploitz, mang.

>>158708571
Somebody at Cochrane in the instance I'm in just opened fire on the landing pads. A couple Viper IVs just died and the port doesn't seem to have much anti-air to speak of.

>>158711068
Just try to enjoy the time you have left before you become our cattle.

>>158713373

It's a killvette with PAs and pack hounds. He's hiding behind the terrain and pops up to unload a salvo when he sees a ship spin around on the pad to launch.

I did a return to surface instead of launching and sure enough 2xhuge plas + a ton of missiles splashed off me while I was still protected by the pad.

158713415
Thread split/false flag-kun, I'm /scg/ that's calling your dumb shit out. In fact I wouldn't be surprised if only /scg/ anons are responding to you.

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>>158713415
Oh it's you again. Don't you understang what fuck off means?

>>158711681
thats kinda sad tbqh

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>>158715912
Yeah, it is. On one hand it means my 970 will last even longer. But it also means more and more stagnation.

>I have your holo-image beside my bed, Commander. I trust that isn't too weird for you?

Nigga that weird AF.

>>158715983
i dont think thats the case
the trend is developers going lazy and releasing unoptimized games that dont look/play any better but force people to upgrade to higher end or newer cards

Is the cochrane board dead?

>>158716253
Well, personally, I selectively play new games and primarily stick to old ones. Most everything I play now including SC (And when I played ED) had zero issues running on my system. Not taking into account SC's optimization. So I have a good feeling that something like that won't affect me at all.

>>158716293

Dead as the game itself.

>>158714709
Give me your milk, anon~~~~

>>158716410
>>158716253
I"m hoping HBM3 becomes standard in GPUs soon 32GB of VRAM standard would be pretty neat.

and ded

>>158722187
you better fuck the shut up i put in alot of work for that OP with 1 embed thats still current

>>158722270
Should give the splitfags what they want so the thread can die even faster.

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>>158694278 >>158694461
This is from the video, it's this one >>158699058

>>158694043 >>158702638 >>158703697
I think you've been answered but :
Any alpha money and asset bought with non-definite money will be reset a Final 1.0 release, else there would be no incentive for player to donate with real money for a "start" advantage (which will be the only thing they have, only LTI is an advantage that will last forever).

CIG will however test "persistency of item" throughout beta, they are only testing their game before release.

>>158722586
Herald-chan looks like she has weird storage compartments on the sides

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>>158723405
I think you are referring to its "computer thingy"
It's a information-hacking-warfare spaceship which apparently mean you need physical access to its drive/memory unit. To take them in and out as fast as possible.

That's the logic I heard at least

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>>158723847
Dunno, whatever these are

>>158723405
>Herald-chan

i would bully you so hard irl

>>158724352
Good :3

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>>158724352
pls no

>>158697920
I thought SC was getting rid of XML files

So I just tested Cochrane works.
It looks like they really did implement steps to kill board flipping. In addition to changing mission population when you swap instances, if you do it too much in too short a time your board just won't populate with missions for a while

>>158725790

I don't think that's accurate. The mission board was empty for me when I landed there for the very first time today, and the last time I did any instance flipping was close to 2 weeks ago.

>>158725790
Just did this exact same thing, saw the same thing you did. Payouts were really low, too. I saw screenshots of people getting 1+mil rewards, I only saw ~75k. Also got no missions showing up at all after switching between open/solo after a couple of times.

Were you in a Vulture by chance? If so I might've accidentally shot you once then said 'my bad' in chat. I was also in a Vulture.

>>158726802
Nah I was in solo
I was getting multi million payouts but only one mission for kent's at a time, and several for the ones with actual security.

How to level up to Deadly in E:D fastest?

The only reason I have rank in the first place is because of Chemical Manipulators.

>>158727160
farm conflict zones

>>158726983
How are you getting multimillion? Is it a rank thing?

>>158711681
very true, games can only look so real. we're still a ways off from creating a true alternate reality on your computer screen though. visuals are the easy part, making everything in a game behave like youre watching a nat geo documentary is hard

>>158726802

You need high rep to get offered the high payout missions. I'm getting 12-skimmer missions for 4.5mil a pop at allied.

>>158726802

The bases with actual security have anti-missile missiles. You can't use dumbfires there because they'll get shot down before reaching the ground. The high security base in particular has anti-ship missiles and goes itano circus on your ass if you attack from the air. The safest but slowest approach is to land out of turret range and attack in an SRV.

Alternatively, hide behind terrain and use railguns at a distance. The target reticle will snap to a skimmer if you can get it over one, even if they're currently untargetable because they're not firing.

>>158723405
essentially theyre storage units for "info" (info running profession, assuming it will be a safer form of cargo when the job is playable). herald is supposed to include a means of wiping these clean so that nobody can steal your 3.5TB of rare space-memes

>>158727415
>nat geo documentary

disgusting taste in documentary
take your roaring bugs elsewhere

>>158711681
>>158715983
>>158715912
Honestly, I'm fine with graphical stagnation, if done correctly. Just theoretically speaking, it would mean that they could reuse assets for their next games, and make them even bigger. Just imagine how many 3D models of an M16 humanity has created in the last 10 years, at some point it's enough.

>>158729124
More important than graphics at this point is interactivity and world building. How to make things not jarring, make clipping an issue of the past, better AI, more mission variety, real VR and so on.

>>158729124
the game looks great, as long as they continue to build it around the notion of possibly hundreds of large ships in one small area, theres no point making it look better unless they expect their average audience to have quad 1080s running on some magical future CPU that produces 15 ghz

the entire concept of the game is that theres alot of shit going on, alot of moving parts and things being computed at once, but all that shit is still as visually pleasing as your PC can handle.

it's not like they cant overhaul the graphics when the game has been out for a bit and the average "poor man's gaming pc" has the stats of what will be a godlike rig by the end of next year

>>158693385

Fuck that -- where are my LMGs at? Will SM even have larger weapons as such? If so, Ill cum buckets.

>>158730594
https://robertsspaceindustries.com/comm-link/transmission/12978-Introducing-Your-RSI-Space-Suit

>Class VII – Heavy Marine Armor. This is a heavy weapons suit with mech upgrade for carrying heavy weapons.

Must be something big

>>158730759
4u

>>158729713
That was about the game industry in general

>>158702528

The Retaliator is just an FPS level tech demo ship from 2014 and 2015. It's going to stay pretty obsolete, or get redone with minimal change.

Also, just as a reminder, the whales on the forums think that it should take 3 Retaliators with all of their torpedoes launched to compete with a Polaris.

Whales will be why this game is shit.

>>158731298
Well yeah multiple Retaliators should be equal to a Polaris just like multiple Gladiators should be equal to a Retaliator.
I mean if not what's the point in buying the expensive ship? It would be like a Hussar killing a Paladin.

>>158731298
>it should take 3 retaliators with all of their torpedoes launched to compete with a Polaris
A single torpedo should blow up anything smaller than a Polaris. That's right, want to fight about it?

A gladiator should be able to take out 8 constellations before flying away.

A retaliator should be able to take out 4 Idris.

>>158730594
theres already a man-portable equivalent of the strife mass driver that looks fully modeled and ready roll. theres plenty of other concept weapon images out there too but i havent seen anything that explicity looks like a space m249 or 240. i'll rock the space 240 whatever it takes

your sabre can only handle so much REAL FUCKIN NATO to the engines

>>158702528
>tali is half the size, literally 2 real people crewed, 1/3 the cost now, and probably later, while still being one of 3 ships with unusable torpedos that dont mean shit til theyre usable and balanced

3 talis doing their job right will shit all over your polaris for the same $ price

said it last thread but you seem to be confusing a purpose built torpedo delivery system with engines attached with a ship designed to kill things that arent it's torpedo targets

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>NPCs now reboot 1 minute after being planted
>cargo dropped in space now deteriorate even faster
>T9s now drop fighters

Piracy was already dead, but they had to make it deader

combine that with all long range hauling/smuggling options being dead and skimmer killing being 100% state dependent and there's one question left:

how the fuck do I make money?

>>158724258
Yep, computer thingy.

It does have some take on reality. When you deal with Petabytes of data, it can be slower to transfer it through a data-line than to exchange the entire memory unit.
Animation studio do that a lot. I wouldn't be surprised if game developer did too. But unlike studio like Dreamwork their final product must be downloaded.
I'm sure that if we looked at all 3D models and texture needed to make, say "Avatar", it would be beyond anything we expect to use in our life.

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>>158732337
>how the fuck do I make money?
Getting a real job.

>>158730759

That might only be the railgun. I want LMGs.

>>158731465
>>158731485

And this is why the game will always be P2W garbage.

>>158733047
What do you want then?
Can you explain your idea of balance?

The idea is that buying ships ends at beta or at least launch btw.

>20th century
>planes, boats, submarines, helicopters can all be outfitted with torpedoes
>a single torpedo can cripple or sink an aircraft carrier
>pearl harbor, etc

>30th century
>only the retaliator, gladiator and capital ships can carry torpedoes
>the dedicated bomber has mid-sized ones, only carries a handful
>takes 3 of them to blow up a constellation
>literally out-matched in firepower by a huge destroyer that's designed to be a bigger bomber

Just admit it, they messed up.

>>158731465

A Retaliator is equal to roughly 1.75 Gladiators, because the Glad is 165 dollars, and the Retaliator is 275.

>>158733424
>takes 3 of them to blow up a constellation
Torpedos aren't even in the game yet. It fires placeholder missiles that have roughly the same stats as the Gladiators S5 (which are also broken as fuck).

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I made this picture.
Obviously speculation, but better than Whales or shitposter.

Just for info, I do think the Retaliator need a buff, but it still has clear advantages that a Polaris will never have.
Even the cargo version can still be a fast, solid and stealthy blockaderunner

>>158733424
If it was realistic battles would be between enemies 100s of km's apart with long range missiles and torpedoes. And everything would be done by computers. Hell, nobody would even be on board the ships.

It's a game that's supposed to be fun which is why ships look cool and aerodynamic instead of scaffolds with guns, there's sound in space, and it doesn't cost $12,000,000,000 to fly an Aurora each time.

>>158733673

I dont get why Polaris owners are cocksuckers. I know it's true, but Im still trying to understand how they can put so many cocks down their throat and in their ass.

t. Idris owner

>>158709707
>including the corvette
It doesn't

>>158733587
Cost wise yeah but I think there should be some increased effectiveness from having to work as a team to operate the ship, as well as the increased risk of all that investment in one ship rather than divided over multiple targets.

You need to reward gamers for working together or they'll autistically stick to themselves.

>>158733707
>launching missiles and not metal rods

lel nice wasted mass

>>158733707
wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong

play CHODE

>>158734889
You can't control the direction of metal rods once they're launched, you imbecile. Metal rods are for space-to-ground bombardment.

A 60x2x2 metal rod travelling at hundreds of miles an hour has the same impact as a small nuclear bomb you know.

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>SC balance will always be determined by what makes whales happy

nice p2w non-game shitizens

>>158735187

see

>>158733128

Why do you avoid answering me?

>>158735057
Yeah but your enemy could laser a missile to knock it out
With railgun like rod ammunition they'd need to expend their own mass to deflect/avoid it surely
Then again that's assuming they're going fast in orbit and not in deep space

>>158733128
>The idea is that buying ships ends at beta or at least launch btw.

this is what whales actually believe

listen, you have a web store that makes you millions a month

do you shut it down? for some feel good idealism? ever?

hahahahaha

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>>158735516
Yeah because all the whales have already cashed in by then
You keep those same whales happy by withdrawing the ships and instead selling them cosmetic bullshit which they spend more hundreds on

>>158735486
Fair enough, at least the fact that to deflect the rods they need equal mass and momentum.

The likelihood of there being space battles in human existence is nearly 0 in my opinion. Due to the logistics of colonizing Mars, let alone spending 200,000 years travelling to another earth-like planet, all of human history will be effectively confined to Earth. So why would there be a need to have space fights?

>>158736347
Terraformed and self sustaining Mars I guess?
I doubt even space would stop us waging war if something could be gained from it, and wiping the other planet out means you can't really profit from it.

>>158736712
>Terraformed and self sustaining Mars I guess?
Would take tens of thousands of years. And the ability to travel through space cannot get any cheaper until we revolutionize fuel and harness something like antimatter with 100% efficiency. I simply cannot see a situation where people are having a war and fighting in space is a necessity; why haven't modern wars seen astronauts sabotage and destroy enemy satellites for example?

Cochrane went dead for me too.
Muh dosh! Oh well, there goes my 'Conda dream for the time being. Why can't the VISION cast its gaze elsewhere?

>>158738460
The vision will cast it's gaze to all elements, fun is not allowed

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>check shipyard list details on my ships
>discovery scanners show in utilities but shield boosters and wake scanners show in optional internals

>>158736982

Because it takes a lot to get anything to orbit. If we get a Space Elevator or a Mass Driver it becomes so much more easier.

>why haven't modern wars seen astronauts sabotage and destroy enemy satellites for example?

Because Missiles can be fired from the ground with a small payload for a fraction of the price. Who has even been in a war where both enemies had means to get to orbit?

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>>158739095
None shall escape.

>>158739343
I hated their new UI also. It may have been a pain to scroll through everything with the old one, but everything was in the same spot instead of having to go through several menus.

>>158739746
>refuel repair and restock, the three most crucial things you do when landing are pushed off to the side
>reading news articles the last thing you do is front and center
>shipyard and outfitting is practically hidden in a corner.

I feel like their UI designer either never took a single design class, or was told to design this specific thing if he wanted to keep jis job.

>>158738460
fuuuuck, barely managed to squeeze three mil from it before it got patched

>>158740220
A little bit of both I bet. Their first UI was a scrolling nightmare for shit like outfitting. But weapons and peripherals that were part of a specific area/class weren't in separate submenus. Also I'm pretty certain that Frontier saw people complaining about having to go to reddit or other third party websites to read lore so they said fuck it and made their shitty news nice and big.

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>>158738460

Around the ruins in ED, is there any point to the ancient orb/totem/casket etc stuff?

I can't even find them in inventory when I swipe them

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>>158740391

>>158740826
>frontier has to reneg on lifetime expansion passes because they cant keep giving their shit away for free

>>158741467
So when is braben going to offer an optional subscription so the dads can pay for our game? I don't even care that the dads will act entitled

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>>158741467
>CIG also keeps selling ships after launch
>Space sim genre revival dies a horrible death

So how do i make monies in ED now with the sentry skimmer farming going ded?

>>158741857
Difference there is that community will actually throw a shit fit. The dad's will defend Frontier's every decision, so long as it has nothing to do with making PvP or the game better.

>>158742002
Why does this sound so eerily familiar to flight simulators.

>>158742056
Can you elaborate?

>>158741946
According to obsidian ant, passenger missions.

>>158742170
>The dad's will defend Frontier's every decision, so long as it has nothing to do with making PvP or the game better.

Just change frontier's with a flight sim game making company.

>>158736347
>doesn't know the difference between deflecting a projectile and literally countering its entire velocity vector, making it stop in place

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>>158735486
It would actually take an hellish laser to first melt the rod, then it's not sure that you'll be able to modify its shape anywhere enough for aerodynamic force to overcome its speed/momentum.

>>158736347 >>158736712
Another reason to lessen the possibility of space warfare : "Kessler Syndrome"
It is pretty stupid to blow warship within a planet orbit (that you want), then have to deal with space debris more dangerous (yes, through sheer number) and more numerous than the enemy would ever have.

>>158736982 >>158739709
Sending astronaut to sabotage/board would actually be more efficient than needing to clean up afterward. Using a Laser to melt the fragile part of a spaceship would work, assuming you can hide several laser underground and only unveil them to shoot the enemy.

I'll keep bugging in : the technology and infrastructure needed to terraform a planet would make space habitat more viable (and more secure) than a planet.

>>158742056
because it's the same exact audience

>>158742002
>implying CIG drones are any better

>>158742658
The SC audience is vastly larger. The reason why the Dads always win is because they are in the majority for ED. In SC, not only are the drones not in the majority, but Roberts himself doesn't even agree with them a lot of the time. Also there's the media outrage that can spark over just about anything regarding that game. The most they can do is make little fuckups here and there. Something as major as selling ships after launch (not starter ship packages) will result in badness all around.

>>158742658
>cig dads drove me off back when they were defending the freelancer's cockpit support strut.
Arguing with retards posting pictures that proved themselves wrong taught me that life was too short to continue that way.

>>158742901
roberts words have little relation to reality

>>158742514
>It would actually take an hellish laser to first melt the rod
I meant melting a missile enough to stop it being a guided missile

>aerodynamic
and through space

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>>158741857
Unlikely, that alone would make DS look a reasonable guy who always said the truth and CR's biggest lie ever.

However I expect :
- whales rioting if their pledge Polaris/Idris/else isn't OP enough
- everybody asking to remove/improve CR's "you can still 'buy money' so korean-grinder aren' too lonely" features.
(lot of people would likely smear him for that, because it sound like pouring gasoline on a fire)

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>>158743025
>Unlikely, that alone would make DS look a reasonable guy who always said the truth and CR's biggest lie ever.

deprogramming is starting to work
just a few more delays

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>>158743090
WE'RE BREAKING THE CONDITIONING!

ARRRRGGGHHH

>>158741946
CG i guess

>>158742952
>have little relation to reality

You mean him saying fuck you to anti-pvpers isn't still a reality?

>>158742958
Oh sorry, I misread, I though you meant lasering a ROD FROM GOD (tm).
A spaceship defending itself from a surface-space missile could make itself costlier to kill but several way to attack with missile(s) would overwhelm it.

Plus a spaceship would have a incredibly harder time to wield a laser. (radiating heat away is hard, see CODE/chode). Ground defense would have an advantage (as long as you aren't slindling rod of god/asteroid at them)

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Ursa rover variants incoming to expand the options of ground vehicles, with more military vehicles in the future.


Mods are sleeping, post ground vehicles that wouldn't look out of place planetside

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>>158743798
CIG FUCKING GIVE ME THE ORIGIN SPEEDER BIKE ALREADY FUCKING REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

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>>158743798
I don't care if they're out of place; I just want my tachikoma.

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>>158743798
Does this count as a "vehicle"?

If so I want Power Armor

How do you make money in elite?
>trading is bullshit, cant make any profit anymore
>missions either pay close to nothing or want to send me planetside to crash some party but the moment i finish glide patrols are all over me
It seems like mining is the only way now but i aint respeccin my ship again.

Should I A-Rate my Python or just save for the next ship? I have mostly B-Rated modules now. I like the ship a lot but I want to hit Anaconda or FedVette.

>>158743025
>- whales rioting if their pledge Polaris/Idris/else isn't OP enough
The vanguard people didn't seem to do much when their ship didn't come even close to being the be-all/end-all space fighter they were initially sold.

>>158744374
>vanguard
There's reason why four hor semen isn't working on ships right now.

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>>158744029
They have to do more than the dragonfly eventually or it's going to be kind of weird

>>158744170

>>158730759

>Class IX – Full blown mech suit. Somewhere between a space suit and the power loader from Alien.

maybe

>>158744170
thats a max suit. hmm are max suits vehicles?
Is power armor a vehicle?

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>>158744715
That's outdated. We know we're military Titan suits, Ben let it slip on TrannieWithBen that UK is making the Retaliator dropship variant right now as well as another dedicated variant (like the Vanguard Hoplite, non modular) that's designed to carry and recharge Titan suits. Let me skip through this and find the timestamp.

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>>158744572

>mfw he's working on ships RIGHT NOW, they just haven't released them yet

>>158743798
Man, sometimes I wish collaboration between studios were a possibility like music. Call on Daybreak to jump on the project for a year or two and work their black magick to produce a miniature Planetside 2 in game.

>>158745201
They made him make the Vanguard Hoplite. He wanted to move onto the Redeemer after he made the original vanguard, it sounds like he's been pushing for a dropship (so he can work on the Redeemer) and they gave him the vanguard

It's POETRY mfw https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bxU2eqZtYmc

>>158745195
But where is the guy in that?
>oy billy, do your stretches or you aint gettin the heavy armor this chrismas

>>158744587
i wanna see a junky low quality version by some not so reputable brand

>>158745461

This is false.

I'm a friend of his, I know what he's working on.

>>158745626
Maybe but no one is junkier than Drake right now and I can't see them making another company instead of fleshing out others (like Kruger and Crusader)

Are the empire ships just straight up better than the feds?

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>>158745509
Gee anon, it's almost as if that suit is designed with foot steps in the shins that represent where the wearer sits.

>>158745651
Fuck off attention whore, they even had him talking about the hoplite on ATV.

Would you pay for a Star Citizen japanese anime clone with mechas and lolis?

>>158745651
if you are his friend you should shut the fuck up before you get him in trouble. unless of course you work at CIG

>>158745975
If I can zendatsu them maybe

>>158745975
you fucking people...

>>158745975
Fuck off Char.

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Titan Armor news from Oct 27, 2016
https://youtu.be/wqhiYsLOgOw?t=1267

>"We're doing a Titan module for the Retaliator which is a variation of the dropship one but... less space for people more space to recharge your big titan armor"

WE /mecha/ NOW, TIME TO GUNDAM.

>they are making the game you just cant see it
>i..its in the background
Fuckin bullshit. All the things you can do now are half-assed, buggy or completly broken. If they had any progress they would let us see it since they clearly dont give a shit about quality. Shitty pre-rendered videos dont mean shit.
Also, cryengine was a mistake. Its a fucking console engine for fucks sake.

>>158746601
GUNDAM MECHA HYPE MODE ACTIVATE

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>>158746627
you came to the wrong neighbourhood son

>>158746601
>power armor suits from a Retaliator as it skims over a battlefield

Fuck me I'd just shoot myself

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>>158746601

>Titan suits
>Gundam mechs
>not pic related

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158746627
>Cryengine is a fucking console engine

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>>158746627
It's ogre for the shitizens, they just don't know it yet

>>158746896
>Search this
>Height: 3 meters

It looks like a tiny little Zaku

>>158746601
>mix up gundam and zaku
kys

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>>158746896
>>158746859
>>158746601

>their mechs can only fit in a Tali cargo bay
HAHA GET YOUR PUNY MECH OUT THE WAY

What the fuck do i do, the passenger just wants to go to a planet which i can't land on, I've visited the tourist beacon near it already

>>158731576
shut up amerifat

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>>158747218
Too bad, time to abandon it.

>>158747041
>implying Gundam and Zaku aren't just both mobile suits and thus the same thing
nah kys tho

>>158747813
Apparently the motherfucker wanted to go to the next system but for some reason didn't give me a notification

>>158746708
looks like a french pornstar who only made one movie and was quickly forgotten by everyone

>>158746898
The only reason people give a fuck about it is the first crysis, a good pc game. Everything they made after that is forgetable, they even made a console exclusive. Now they are so broke they are whoring out their engine to smalltime modders for 10$ a month.

>>158746979
Deep down they know it.
As i said, they clearly dont care about showing half-finished things, they wouldnt hold back on anything big.

Everything they have in the game is just retextured cryengine sample assets.
>clothes clipping through character
>ui unchanged, default prompts
>basic animations
Only things they added are a couple of new models, something you can buy off various websites for 10-50$ a piece.

How many years it took them to implement gunfights? One of the engines most basic functions. And now they are showing it off like its the biggest things ever.

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>>158748236
>passenger gave you the wrong destination
>tfw E:D is now an uber driver simulator

This is the last straw, I'm just going to apply to become a actual uber driver and be paid for it.

>>158748231
>implying NMS and ED are both just open world space games and thus the same thing

>>158749092
>implying uber pays
you pay more for gas and upkeep than you get paid

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>>158749092
>E:D is now an uber driver simulator
>>158749152
>two mobile suits in the same universe
>slightly different specs, same roles
>implying the variance is any different than one specialized gundam model to another

>>158749092
Youre about to find out passengers only ride in style. Gutamaya style.

>>158749291
>implying they arent selling drugs like normal taxi drivers

>>158749385
I'm delivering them in my ASP

>>158749040
>first crysis

And yet the first Crysis shows what that engine is capable of. Most games nowadays still can't even compare. How many games can you actually count that have proper physics engines for almost all objects in the game world, especially vegetation? I mean, for fuck sake we're still getting games released daily that don't even have working mirrors. Whether this is due to developer laziness or engine capability, who knows.

>>158749291
>>158749092
Uber has minimum wage now in the UK, or should have.

>thread turns to E:D
>goes to shit fast
Can we separate the threads again?

>>158749495

fuck off retard

>>158749486
Most big games have proper veggies these days. For some reason tried to play farcry 4 again a few days ago and the bushes moved out of the way.
>inb4 its releated to cryengine because the first one was on it

First crysis was great, all the others are dumbed down console garbage. Anyone who tried to mod them knows this.

Also, anyone who tried to mod any crysis game knows where starcitizen is standing.

>>158749801
Warhead

>>158749495
We did. Scg had thier own and it died. Youre a retard, get over it.

>>158749961
its a dlc for the first one, made on the exact same engine.

>>158750106
The threadshitter has tried to seperate both /scg/ and /edg/, the seperate generals died in favor of the /scg/edg/ general that was up at the same time. /scg/edg/ 4life

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SKIMMER SRV WHEN

>>158750316
NEVER REEEEEE

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https://forums.robertsspaceindustries.com/discussion/306078/would-you-like-to-own-a-planet

>CR has stated himself that generating 400 billion procedural stars (like in E:D) is out of the question because of how empty it would feel, but space IS mostly about emptiness, and a little bit of empty space has never hurt anybody.

>There is therefore no reason why pockets of a few hundred or thousand planets couldn't be procedurally generated in "unexplored" areas of the SC Galaxy, with their resources and anomalies.

>If it was possible, would you like to have the ability to purchase an entire celestial body, like a planet or a moon, to function as a base for your organization or other more or less lawful endeavors?

How do I kill the SC community?

>>158750223
Yes. Scg and edg need each other. Can only shitpost about how shitty braben is or how many retaliators it takes to shoot down a polaris so many times before everyone quits.

>>158750719
Only if i can get a comf space vila on it.
Whats the word on housing anyway? I dont want to be a fucking space trucker all the time.

>>158750719
It's like they aren't aware of what Unclaimed systems are for

>>158750719
>How do I kill the SC community

You let that minority wallow in their cesspool with the sweet, sweet knowledge that they won't influence anything important with the game.

>>158751178
This, CR ignores entitled mongoloids

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where is your content, guiz?

Is the word ammunition derived from "a munition"?

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With the Prowler coming out we might see what the Tevarin look like. They're apparently ancient-egyptian style, so hopefully we won't get fucking furbeast degenerate dog people for the furfaggots to beg for. Atleast if they are dog people and they eventually add Tevarin as a playable campaign and race we'll be able to spot dog fuckers and lynch them en-mass.

What do you expect the Teviggers to look like?

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>>158751861
Too late m8

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>>158751939

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>>158751861
>implying they won't be horus bird men

>>158751989
Don't be an autist, that's ancient art. The Vanduul are Cloaca beast frog men

>>158752371
Is that a british blue? :^)

>>158752371
cats are gay
dogs are the best

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>>158752758
post more obvious shit

>>158744093
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4k2FBL3Br04
nothing will look out of place
>>158746601
we need to go full Macross and have transformable planes

>>158754579
>Macross
Oh, you mean Transformers G1 Jetfire?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1loCTlw-1hQ

>>158744093
I also want a Yamato!
If sand worm are okay stuff from cooler scifi should be too.

>>158755064
>Never watch transformers
>Finally see it through Rifftrax
>Still bad

Not even their commentary could save that trainwreck

>>158744170

>Does this count as a "vehicle"?

That depends. If you sit inside of it and pilot it then it's a vehicle. If you wear it around yourself like a suit then it's an exoskeleton and not a vehicle.

Did someone say Macross~

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GvqXCK9tD7o

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>>158743798
Here is mine, resized it would be carried from planet to planet by a Starfarer/Hull-C/D/Carrack.

> A man can dream

>>158750719
There is plenty of reason not to generate zillion planet, the first was given by NMS : fucking nothing to do on it, proc generation of content never improved a game no player have ever player 10000000 missions but all once got hooked up for hours on a dozens replaying them in loop.

And you can't have your own little planet because any non-proc-gen structures and items you build and store there would need a server to be available, last problem is accessing those planets easily despite the game being balanced so even 10 system is hard to cross and their jump gate size strategic.
You would basically create a whole alternate galaxy of empty planet with shitty contents you'll stop doing. all the while taking developer away from handcrafting real interesting content that last for hours.

Btw,
The above is how you would kill the SC community. Split them in billions of planet so they never meet each other yet bitch about content for their planet

you are welcome

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>>158755731
That is the least creative vehicle I've ever saw, the top of the front turret is in the firing line of the rear turret if it attempts to fire at a 10-25 degree angle. It also doesn't look like something you'd see in SC, pic related is more likely. I'd expect us to get a Ursa Rover variant pretty soon with the crew cabin replaced with a Gun turret just like pic related.

>>158756159
>ursa with two front seats and a rear gun
>a Ursa Warthog

I need this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DMJ94P4lSs

What we actually need is a greycat-IED

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>>158756159
> critic creativity
> post a halo warthog with extra wheels
> talk of efficiency
> post a turret with unprotected gunner who can't get back in in motion, the driver cant see shit front or sideway, plus useless handle.

At least all you would have to do to make my MISC hover-truck is remove/elevate a turrets and add a Misc like cockpit

>>158758209
>implying vunerable manned turrets are't badass
Wew lads it's like you're not aware Star Citizen has illogical vehicle/ship designs meant to balance them

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Who else here is /illegal xenobiology/?

>>158749385
Only a handful of VIPs are luxury class, and they don't pay enough extra to justify the cabins.

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>>158758636
Star Citizen turret are still protected.
Adding ridiculous design flaw that don't even fit the universe isn't being badass, it's being stupid.
Being badass would be using an fast hovertruck to harass a big landed spaceship with missiles swarm and two turrets with dual S2 mounts.

Tanking hit but still making it because your gunner didn't get killed by a stray shot

>>158759538
I hope you de-fanged that

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evocati anon still here?

Have they done anything interesting with the speeds/weapons?

>>158749385

Joke's on you. No Gutamaya ship can actually fit luxury cabins.

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>>158760630
>talking about ground vehicles
>posts Javelin DESTROYER's turret

WEEEWWWWW LAADDDDDD

>>158760647
We're on 2.5.3, people want it returned to pre-change speeds or increased to somewhere between current and pre-change.

Avocado patches so far:
2.5.1:slow ass flight changes
2.5.2:slow ass flight changes second pass
2.5.3:weapon and esp changes (no 3rd pass of flight changes yet because putting numbers in an xml file takes a lot of time to do)

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>>158761337
I thought DataForge is supposed to fix tedious XML editing.

>Use this Cutlass Flashfire Specialty Mount to turn the S6 turret mount on any Cutlass-class ship into an S4 gimbal gun slot, allowing pilots to mount the Behring S4 Combine Ballistic Cannon with explosive rounds (originally intended for use aboard the Retaliator bomber!)

Wew lads, cutlass rework will allow a fixed S5 gun to be placed on the turret mount
we /budget/ vanguard now

>>158761337

what'd they do to the weapons? lower damage, lower velocity? Make the damage discrepancies between sizes not so harsh?

>>158762424
You're correct, that was a copy/past from another anon ITT. Didn't read the last part. ESP and flight changes are still ongoing, we're going to be moving to testing 2.6 flight soon with the new map and missiles I'm pretty damn sure but no confirmation.

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>>158761197
Fair, let's show how stupid you still are with an URSA turret.

A bike is meant to be small, it don't even have turret.
We are talking about an armored hovertruck or jeep, hovertruck can even have shield
There, you are still a dumbass to post for posting unprotected turret.

>>158750719
But there has to be lots of undiscovered plantes in order to have the exploration profession, right?
Also nms died fast cus itnwas anrepetitive bland SINGLE PLAYER game

>>158763263
>tiny dual-S1 turret that by design cannot be made fixed

Completely irelevent. You only need to wait for 3.0 to start seeing the Ursa variants which will include a open turret design with a larger gun.

>>158763416
>URSA variants
What ones have been confirmed so far to be planned? iirc it's the Luxury Lynx variant (confirmed to be a variant), then they have plans for other versions that we don't know about that replace the "rear" section with other gear. Flatbed cargo variant, Turret up-gunned verson, Titan suit recharging transport?

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>>158763416
There was that picture around. Anyway we have a Drake hover bike, we have an Origin flying car 85X, a MISC flying truck would only be proper.
Maybe Aegis could do the battle tank

>>158764779
85x isn't a flying car. It's a twoseat snub.

>>158764779
>85x
>listed with ground vehicles
Wew lad.

>Finally, every 890 Jump comes with a two-seat ORIGIN 85X runabout, a personal transport par excellence. The 85X isn’t a simple snub fighter like those included on competitor’s larger spacecraft: it’s a top-of-the-line ship in its own right, fully capable of going the few places the 890 cannot.

>Now, Origin is proud to unveil the 85x. Whether descending down to the planet surface or taking in the sights of your system, the 85x will continue the 890’s proud tradition of turning heads. It’s the power of a racer with the reliability of a touring ship.

I want Bonaparte. Give me Bonaparte. And a pilotable skimmer for recon.

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>>158764936
And a two seat snub is an armed flying car. The distinction is pointless

>>158764779
> Aegis, battletank.
Sound more like a job for Anvil.

Aegis do stealth or sophisticated fighter, could be a candidate for a maker of Titan suit or any other mech.

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>>158750719

>>158765473
>a two seat snub is an armed flying car
And a Idris is just a big flying car!

Snubs are just small ships, they aren't Cars or ground vehicles. P-72/P-52/85X are all ships, not Ground vehicles and thus shouldn't be listed with them. Don't go full retard m8

>>158765473
>a spaceship is a "flying car" to the point where a distinction is pointless
wew lad, the only distinction that's pointless to make is the difference between your autism and asbergers

>>158761337
>people want it returned to pre-change speeds
>wahhh why can't my ship travel 3x as fast as the hornet ;(

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>>158765753 >>158765753
Last I heard about it it didn't have quantum drive and wasn't meant for combat.
You are the one being ridiculously inflexible. IRL we have the tech to make "flying car", do we call them helicopter ? Do we call them hybrid-aircraft ? No we call them frigging flying car.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L2JUzXGOfKQ
The Drake hoverbike is also a space vehicle, with your hypocrisy it wouldn't count as a bike or as a ground vehicle either.

So keep on insulting other, you are the two retard with no common sense.

>>158768473
Anon, it has four gimbled S1 guns.

It's literally lowering my attention to try to talk to you.

>"HURR DURR the Drake Dragonfl is a space vuhhicuull!"
It's a Ultra-Lite Snub figher that cannot transition between space and Atmosphere by it's self. When under the force of gravity it acts as a planetary two-man transport vehicle with it's eight bottom-facing Maglift plates. In space it acts as a regular Snugfighter. Suggesting there is any hypocrisy when I've never brought up the Dragonfly due to it being a ultra-lite. Your comparison is idiotic.

>>158768473
>"a flying car IRL exists so this must be a flying car"
No, it's a space ship because it can transition from planetside to orbit and fly in fucking space you complete and utter retard.

>>158760647
They reduced the range and ammo speed on all the guns. Ballistics were especially hit hard. Also, there's no S2, S3, S4 energy weapons with similar ammo velocities anymore, so mixed gun loadouts are screwed over pretty hard.

>>158766862
It's not just speed, they also made the hornets way more agile now.

>>158769538
Sounds good to me, forces players use not just fire all their weapons but pick and choose weapon groups for different threats when cross-mixing weapons.

How are Neutron Cannons?

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>Chris Roberts
>Roberts

>Rob
>verb
>take property unlawfully from (a person or place) by force or threat of force.

ROBBING IS LITERALLY IN HIS NAME, WAKE UP SCHTICKIZENS!

>>158770028
>but pick and choose weapon groups for different threats when cross-mixing weapons.
most smaller ships don't have enough hard points to have two effective sets of guns though.

And I haven't tried neutrons yet. So far my testing experience has just been getting horribly overwhelmed by sabres and superhornets that I can't fight, out maneuver, or escape from.

>>158772332
Why would smaller ships offer as much weapon options as the larger/military ships?

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>>158772240
>also say goodbye to this trip
cant let go of your 5 seconds of eFame can you faggot.

>>158770028
Neutron Cannons work well with a hit and run tatic. If you can out run them you can constantly get some shots off, but the problem with that is low range.

>>158773876
Nice try Schtickizen

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>>158769248
There you go, finally widening your understanding to fit the flexibility of fiction space tech. Call them Surface vehicle if it satisfy your own autism, anyway we are using navy term for spaceship.
but I admit that's a well armed shuttle.

>>158769423
> still missing the point
Anyway, I'll be ignoring you, all I cared was to explain a flying/hover truck I would love to play with, the sort of thing you hunt giant worm with.

Keep on with the insult you two, someday you might find someone who care

>>158772240
I've seen your shit being reposted in various places unironically. Going for the long ruse.

>>158774563
T. Autist who thinks space capable Snubs are """"flying cars like we have in real life""""""

>>158756159
Why in the ever loving fuck would somebody design a turret without armor yet up armor the rest of the vehicle?

>>158775335
>Why

Can't answer this. But what I can say is that it's reminiscent of the commander's cupola with MG port or potentially the trucks that didn't have armor around their gunners

>>158774539
you forgot your trip, jewberg
>>158774563
70s anime called, they want their naivety back

Guys
What if thargoids are butthurt at humanity for terraforming worlds to support carbon/water based lifeforms?
Maybe they're ammonia based?

>>158776227
you seem to be ammonia based

>>158776310
fuck, you humans are smart

>>158772456
The issue is that some ships really can't even make a single effective load out if they have to split their hardpoints pips so much. If an Avenger's gatling gun has a velocity of 500, and most of the decent wing guns options are 1200-1500, they're hardly ever going to all hit the same target

>>158746898
cryengine has been a console engine since crysis 2

>>158750719
F E A T U R E
C R E E P

>doing passenger mission
>she wants to go to a planet in a whole other system than marked
>go to that planet and tourist beacon
>scan it
>nothing happens
the fuck do i do

>>158778429

eject passenger from airlock

>>158778429
tell her that it's nothing personal then teleport behind her and cut her down with your katana

Is it bad that I still play Star Citizen over ED?

>>158780849
maybe you can answer this yourself if I rephrase the question for you: "Is it bad I have a learning disorder?"

Squadron 42
2.6
3.0
LOL

>>158781084
Meh, I never truly did understand the concept of Elite Dangerous even when I purchased it. Still don't to this day. So yeah I guess you could say I have a learning disorder in the terms of Elite Dangerous Vijda game play.

>>158781176
LINE OF DEFENCE
1.0
LOL

>>158781232
you just went full autist, you should never go full autist

>>158781232
ED doesn't have a concept. It's also a playground with a lack of toys and a lack of equipment. Whereas SC right now is a small little sandbox.

>>158746601
Oh fuck I was thinking this as a good idea months again, to just have eva capable titan suits that would be deployed from a retailiator. Basically a group of them could act as a point defense screen.

>>158782570
Man, if Roberts wanted to offer Space sim + Planetside 2 simulator, then people could rightfully call him out on being too ambitious

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>>158785943
The fuck will it look like

>Delamar is only like 2.000km in diameter
>Pluto is 3.300km diameter
Babby planets confirmed.

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>>158746601
I was not prepared for Nikki "Batgirl" D'Angelo

so this is where Ben has gone. Good fucking riddance.

>>158769538
>drive me closer, Im hitting them with my sword

also
>space
>range
fucking gay arcade game, becomes more and more casual, CoD in space literally

>>158789094
He's actually done tenwithtrannie for like two years now, he'll go on any podcast that invites him

Thargoids are already known to be ammonia-based, and since ammonia boils at -33C their habitable zone around stars wouldn't be the same as ours anyway.

>>158778429

Check your mission tab and/or messages.

>>158693385
Right now, please.

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>>158788814
K R U G E R
R
U
G
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Wanna replace my (Now useless) combat Python for either Fed Assault or Gunship but can't really decide. Any tips?

>>158793413
>(Now useless)
why

>>158793692
Not him but i think they borked the maneuverability on it down to unmanageable levels.