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old >>158610227

>1.08 patch notes
http://store.steampowered.com/news/externalpost/steam_community_announcements/241332569600668256

>Ashes of Ariandel DLC Stuff
http://pastebin.com/W1XH72P2

>Character Planner
https://www.mugenmonkey.com/

>DARK SOULS 3
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1u8Mak1goSv4g73g16XsWV4sJelDQUatWkP2kcO6GVAA/pub

>DARK SOULS 2
http://pastebin.com/CAx8Yc8v

>DARK SOULS
http://pastebin.com/eNY3su63

>DEMON'S SOULS
http://pastebin.com/RjpF5s7a

>BLOODBORNE
http://pastebin.com/WdLBWD8n

>KING'S FIELD
http://pastebin.com/G8zw0sc3

>Community & Fanart
http://pastebin.com/vVWz9pJm
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First for cute thigh high slave leggings!
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invader bullying FC
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pyromancy and magic is thrash until late game
fact
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Were they high?
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So of all the Souls YouTubers and Twitch streamers, who's "our guy"?
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anyone have a stack of souls they can drop me?

PC at high wall?
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>spam deep soul
>if someone gets in range I R1 spam with a Sharp Crow Quill+10 buffed with CMW
>get back and throw quills to execute people who get low or roll into one of my stronger spells that I weave in etc
>if things get bad I pop out 2scythe and combo them because at that point they are aggressive enough to just run at me and eat the combo anyways
>havent lost a single duel
>always point down after I win
>10 match streak
>dont even let them give me fan mail, refuse to even signify their existence
my cock is so fucking hard
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>>158632148
+10 flame with 30/30 does 350 damage with fire orb and three rings

fire orb is thrash and you won't get a good spell until karla earliest in the propaned capital which is as good as end game
why would you even upgrade

>>158632290
no new person is going to the smouldering lake on their first playthrough so they're stuck with fire orb until you get to karla
smouldering lakei s a post-game area that youll find from looking online because even if the bridge breaks you wont know that you can climb down
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>>158632235
It's Dark Souls, of course they were high.
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>>158632319
You sound like a huge faggot my dude
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>>158632257
me

www.youtube.com/lasermansteam
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>>158632429
He's not your dude, guy.
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>>158632257
Zullie

But she never uploads shit.
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>>158632450
Hes not guy, my pal.
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>>158632226
Why does this moron keep invading?
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>>158632319
sounds like you'd get destroyed by a decent player
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>>158632494
_he has a youtube/twitch?

also who was that le epic trole that streamed on youtube of him cheating
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>>158632290
>just over an hour.
Not him and not saying pyromancy is bad, but where are you talking about? It takes me more than an hour to do Vordt but I know you mean further than that. Furthest I ever got was right before Farron Keep or Cathedral of the Deep and that character had a playtime of about 30 hours (though to be fair, some of that would be while minimised).
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>>158632575
>tfw I killed like 3 people from the FC on accident before I killed him
haha oops
also because I'm embered so I could actually fight people
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Is that sick secret pyromancy any good?
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Too bad there's nothing really similar to Northern Regalia that's worth using, guess I just gotta go for the closest looking thing to Dragon Bone Smasher them.

And I keep wondering if I should go up to 125 to get a little more vit to be able to use Gundyr chest without fatrolling. But then again, this chest is cool looking too.
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>>158632257
I like DaveControl. He's more of a lorefag, like me, but he's not terrible at the game either.
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>>158632620
>It takes me more than an hour to do Vordt
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Any lossless rips of the new DLC OST?
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>>158632620

Vordt can be done in under 10 mins, the shit you saying. When you know the path of this game you can complete it easy in under 6 hours, this is assuming you skip all the monsters and treasure you don't need ofcourse.
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>>158632319
Pointing down is okay but pointing down and throwing poop is better.
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>>158632697
>65 str
???
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>>158632697
Isn't it Old King Doran or are you memeing?
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um did he fall or something
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>>158632704
ayy dawgie
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>>158632704
Yeah. I die a few times on Iudex, then die a bunch of times on katanafag, then die to every fucking knight on the Wall at least once. Then I'll die once or twice to Vordt himself.

I have another character that I've only got to Undead Settlement with, maybe I wandered around there a bit, and the playtime is about 4.5 hours.
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>>158632773
My favorite's still pointing at them at the start of a fight and then crushing a soul item.
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>>158632702
I fucking hate that guy. Annoying as fuck.
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>>158632620

>takes me more than an hour to do vordt
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>>158632839
Have you tried not dying to all that stuff?
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>>158632796
Yeah I'm meming, I hit l instead of r but I liked it so I kept it
>>158632776
I took a point out of it to put in vit because I only lose like 2 or 3 ar from that one point.
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>>158632315
Just CE it.

If you can't/won't, I do actually have a character partway through the game that I'm not going to use but I'm about to go to bed. It's 8:20AM here now and I've been awake all night. I could drop all the soul items for you later today or at some point over the next few days. Not sure when I'll be back on.
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>>158632620
>takes me more than an hour to do vordt
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So what determines a rank up in the arena?
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>>158632347

Your argument is that if you don't know about a specific mechanic or area, pyromancy is worthless, unfortunately you could apply your shitty, generic argument to any aspect of the game. The only reason you're upset about pyromancy is because you couldn't figure out how to make it useful
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>>158632839
>I die a few times on Iudex

Are you talking about the very first time you played the game or does this actually unironically happen to you on new runs?
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WELP I'm retarded. Kill the FC host because i can't control myself. In my defense Claire was casting just all kinds of fire at me. It was clearly self defense.
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>>158632704
>This guy invades the world and vapes at your host. Wat do?
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>>158632620
>Not him and not saying pyromancy is bad, but where are you talking about? It takes me more than an hour to do Vordt
I wish I wasn't on my laptop so I had smug anime girls for you

you should two shot vordt with the basic fireball
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>>158632963
a +10 flame does 350 damage with flame orb
you don't get any good spells until karla and smouldering lake
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>>158632235
bro you solved the mystery. that was the main puzzle of the dlc, took 7 months to figure out a challenge difficult enough for us highly intelligent dark souls fans

thank you miyazaki, i love you
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>>158632994
it's okay, I only died because I didn't just fire surge you and tried to be nice
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>>158632943
is that junkrat and roadhog
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>>158632617
https://m.youtube.com/channel/UC4JL8XJ9dxqfvzTM8L5Sl3w

With all the webms she makes, you'd think it would be full of videos, but it's barely anything.
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>>158632974
I first played it when it came out. I died on him several times then. I got to some bonfire after Sage, two assholes come down some steps and fight you. Wherever that is is the furthest I got.

I didn't play the game for months after that. Then I went back and in one go went through to Undead Settlement and did a bit of that with a new character. Then I didn't play for about 2 months or so, maybe more.

Now I've started again with a third character. Playtime is 6 hours and I'm before Vordt, but that's mainly gonna be the game being minimised as I'm on here.

>>158633005
>you should two shot vordt with the basic fireball
I don't see how - it takes about 6 of them to kill a fucking knight (not blocking). Yeah, Vordt's weak to fire, but not THAT weak, surely.
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>>158633058
yes
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>>158632257
Lobos is kind of gay now but still okay

Aris is the only guy i watch on twitch anymore though
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>>158633102
>Playtime is 6 hours and I'm before Vordt,
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Alright, I finally played the DLC so here's my fucking review if anyone is interested.

>Pros
+It honestly isn't that short, map wise. Plenty of shit to explore, should take longer than 2-3 hours blind if you're not overleveled as shit and going into the nooks and crannies
+Crow Bro and the painter girl are pretty cute, would protect/set on fire
+Pretty cool enemies with nice sets, fashionable shields
+Good melee weapons, especially if you're a dex fag
+Benharts voice actor
+One good boss fight

>Cons
-Only one good boss fight
-The reason this DLC isn't worth the 15 bucks isn't cause the map, it's the content. Two sorceries that are shit frost reskins. The single pyromancy spell is eh, and the single miracle redefines garbage. You get a single ring, a boring as fuck frost stat resist basically only useful in the boss fight. Strength is also pretty bland compared to what the dex fags got, especially considering Earthseeker is just a machete copy paste
-A fucking 0 reward copy pasted kiln arena is not something to praise. This was DLC in DS1 and base game in 2, not to mention the population split of a game that could barely push 10k for Steam on a good day in release year
-The hardcore establishment that Dark Souls 3 is diet Bloodborne. Elfriede is a Bloodborne boss, the fucking fly mutants/diseased barf crows, the dex faggotry, the entire aesthetic is basically DS1 re-imagined as BB. I miss my leggy crow demons and decent looking dragon form
-Can't get crow knight set, even just the mask. This tells me that the developers either don't like or merely don't play video games. Nobody who fucking killed those things stopped and thought "Gee, sure am glad I can't get their set"
-the decision to let the fucking Merchant Hag eat your souls instead of just dropping the fucking Millwood set. I don't get the fucking logic behind this, I wish I could ream the faggot who keeps doing this with a cactus

6.5/10
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how to get pro mlg badges from the arena? Can I get it from Duels, or should it be brawls?
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where does patches go after cathedral of the deep? I bought the siegward armor from him, and I thought he was supposed to go to firelink, but he's not here. Just killed the guys who fight each other in the boss fight, and he's still not here.
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>>158632704
It takes me longer than an hour to do Vordt because I do Dancer, Oceiros, Dragonslayer armor, and Champion Gundyr first to get a fully upgraded weapon and lotsa levels.
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Who's the best Dark Souls streamer?
Who's the best Dark Souls memer?
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I just finished the dlc and that statue, doll is suppose to be priscilla and friede disguised as her, right??
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>>158633008

Thank you for completely ignoring my point that your argument could be made of any build. I assume this means you can't argue against it and therefore accept its valid.

Your +3 flame, according to you, did 300. Look man, if you can't get through the game doing 300 damage per ranged hit on a spell that uses as little FP as fire orb, it's not pyromancy, it's you. You are just bad with pyromancy. Yes, the best stuff is locked out until nearer the end of the game, just like with every other build type, that isn't an argument. The problem is you can't do it because you aren't good enough.
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>>158625159
>hey guy, this is a pretty cozy place and we like it here, just lay yourself down somewhere and you got yourself a home
>oh shit guy, you're ash? that's cool, just don't around messing with any flames, alright?
>hey guy, so I saw you were poking around and yeah, our world's turning to shit, but that's okay, it's still our home
>okay guy, so you learned that I am making this dude self-flagellate to keep the flame smothered and let the world rot. rot's cool, I like rot.
>but it's cool, guy - a little slap on the wrist and you can go back to your own world, right?
>right?
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>>158632235
Some guy really wanted to get to the bonfire but the door was locked so he built some scaffolding and then never unlocked the door himself for some reason

or he built the scaffolding so that he could lock the door to slightly inconvenience the next person coming through and then left the scaffolding because he was lazy

Deep lore.
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>>158633161
hold up you're not talking shit about my millwood axe right?
shit was such a big upgrade over my battle axe
probably got like 80 more AR from it
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>>158632235

it's a dark souls 2 reference
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how am i supposed to enjoy the pvp in ds3?

everytime I die its from a swing that isn't even close to me. What the fuck
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Is fire clutch ring worth the damage absorbtion sacrifice?

Got 672 AR without it and 702 with it on my Demon Greataxe
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>me defeating Gundyr earlier
>thank fuck for that shitty starter ring
>tfw I actually find Gehrman easiesr than Gundyr
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>>158633412
Are you new to Souls pvp? Thats how it has always worked.
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>>158633412

The netcode always has been and sadly probably always will be shitty. Best advice I can give is roll again if you think there's a risk of getting caught
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>>158633275
No no, he built it for the god of scaffolding who hates the first flame. There, proper lore.
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>>158633264
Pretty much this. She and homeboy tell you multiple times to just piss off and leave it be.
Not gonna lie, the thought crossed my mind to just piss off and leave it be.
I didn't obviously, but for a brief flash I actually felt like I was roleplaying in a souls game.
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https://www.strawpoll.me/11521838
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>>158633412
You have to be an uber competitive American child with Mountain Dew for blood.
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>>158633412
get good and get used to latency being fucked to some opponents because of p2p

you have to adjust your spacing and timing to account for latency
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>>158633464
yes
>>158633498
>>158633598
fuck

it would be so good if it was as tight as a fighting game.
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FC still on?
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>>158633663
>it would be so good if it was as tight as a fighting game.
Just like your mom's butthole, but instead it's sloppy and loose and shitty.
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>>158633779
Just like your butthole.
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>>158633752
FC's over since I killed everyone plus this invader dork, gonna quit for tonight
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>>158633779
>sloppy and loose and shitty.
hot
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>>158633362
nah, that one's decent but pretty bland. Like the follower sabre for dexfags.
It's the salt but there's no pepper.
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>>158633816
Why don't you come over here and say that to my face and fuck me in the ass, fag?
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>enter le ebin low level seeded NG+ world
>blue spirit gets called in
>shank him after he gets put down to like 5% by world enemies
>black crystal out while host desperately chases me around

Thanks for the free tongues and souls I guess?
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>>158633870
Good fun thanks for hosting.
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>>158633870
ty for hosting claire bb
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>>158633450
Not worth it.
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>invade
>host is playing eternal hide and seek

why dont you just play offline i dont get this trend honestly
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>>158633547
>the thought crossed my mind to just piss off and leave it be.

I wanted to honor her wishes and not stick my nose into her business.

And then Painter Woman told me she wanted to see fire.
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>>158633996
Maybe they'd like to co-op, or like using the message system.
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>>158633996
Maybe they have souls on the line and are hoping to get a blue policeman to help or something. Maybe they don't care for PvP or are bad at it and are hoping you'll leave.

I don't really mind it, just b/c out if you can't find them

I found some cheeky bugger hiding the other day and it was pretty amusing discovering him curled up in a ball in a corner after searching for about 5 ~ 10 minutes
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>using Vilhems set with Sage hat for my sorcerer/dex character
Yo this shits so fucking good.

I like the feeling of being a Frost mage with my Scythe and the frost wave spell

too bad frostbite is the WORST stuff in the game.
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>>158633996
To annoy u???

Want pvp go to the arena
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>>158634005
All the signs around her saying stuff like "Fuck this bitch, she will betray you" and "enemy ahead" (along with the standard "time for finger but hole" ones) made me curious what she was up to.
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>>158633996
>mommy the other kinds won't play with me! why don't they just stay home?
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>>158634079
>having fun
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what's the recommended level for the catacombs/wolnir/irithyll? 50-60?

I've been at level 30 since around the crystal sage and haven't felt a need to level up till now, and I can't find anyone to coop with so I imagine i'm probably a bit underleveled.
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>>158634180
If only I had a longfinger...
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>>158634180
Yeah, I mean she seemed pretty "Go away, we don't like strangers here." and she's sitting above some horrible room filled with hundreds of rotting bodies. But I mean, it was their world, and it's not like I haven't killed a whole lot of people that were just hanging out in their respective places, so I did feel sort of bad about ignoring what she told me.

But as soon as the painter moved to the attict, I started thinking along the lines of "If I leave Friede here, is she going to kill this adorable girl who just wants to see fire?" and it was all downhill from there.

My opinion of Friede did start to improve during the many times I was dying to her, she was pretty cool.
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>>158634360
long******
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>>158634272
>50-60
Jesus do people really over level that much? I don't think I've ever been like 25-30 before the Catacombs
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>>158634392
>cool
>sister "shadowflame the hedgehog" friede
If you say so, buddy.
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>>158632620
I just had the worst beginning run of my life and I still only died to Vordt twice.

How the fuck can you get stuck on him for more than an hour?
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What's the most efficient soul farming spot? The respawning summoned knight in Dragon Land?
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>upsetting carthus bads with my dragonslayer spear

honestly I get so much enjoyment out of frustrating meta shitters, it must suck that your favourite youtubers weapon isn't working out so well for you
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>>158633996
>get invaded by bloodshade
>I want to spend souls so I wait for him by the bonfire to 1 v 1
>eat a greatarrow after 30 seconds of waiting
>instantly swap to way of blue, summon a white
>rape him

Reminder that if the host hides he's just wasting his own time and progress. If he hides, you hide and go watch tv.
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>>158634497
I'm not. I haven't even entered his room yet.
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Just fought a dude who was spamming the WA on his daggers non-stop and seemed to have endless i-frames. What's the counter to this. Sometimes one of my swings would connect but it seemed like a fluke whenever it did.

It's probably the most infuriating WA because of how shit the animation is and the endless iframes it seems to give. I was using a mace too, which is a fairly quick and close to the body weapon (the guy was essentially quickstepping all around me while hugging my character)
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>>158632231
The fuck are you talking about? Pyromancy is amazing early game
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>>158634496
>being so worried about getting called an edgy teenager that you can't relax and enjoy a hooded woman spin-dancing around with scythes
>that snow-vanish
>that blade down stance
>those phase 1 and 3 grabs

She was pretty great, honestly. With a good theme and a Maria-esque pretty fight.
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>>158634631
Why is Pyromancy & Magic so bad in this game until late game?

Early game, there's no incentive to use magic or pyromancies because you have to juggle your very limited estus and you can't kill most enemies in 1 hit with them meaning that you shouldn't use them on thrash mobs.

Even after investing 30 INT/FTH, Fire Orb only deals sub-300 damage even with the Witch's Ring, Great Swamp Ring and Fire Clutch Ring.
With your limited Large Titanite Shards, you'd feel more inclined to upgrading your Raw weapon instead of the Flame because the weapon outdamages Pyromancies.

The best pyromancies are locked at the end of the game.
Karla is in Irithyll Dungeon which requires you to go to the Propaned Capital. At this point, there's only 2 main storyline bosses left.
The game also ruses you by giving you TWO keys in Irithyll dungeon, none of which opens her cell. Instead you have to go the Propaned Capital first to get her key and backtrack to her cell and clear the jailers AGAIN.

https://www.strawpoll.me/11521838 (embed)
Also, the entire swamp area of the Propaned is easily missed. I didn't find Karla on my first playthrough.

http://www.strawpoll.me/11521825/ (embed)
Most people will also miss the Smouldering Lake, even if you manage to break the bridge, you wouldn't know that you can climb down. This locks you out of the Great Chaos Fire Orb which essentially makes Pyromancy from useless to DaS I levels of strong.

If Pyromancies & Magic are so weak early, why would anyone use their Large Titanite Shards to upgrade their catalyst or flame instead of their Raw weapon? You wouldn't.
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>>158634531
triple winged knights on archives roof
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>>158634631
Oh yeah? It's amazing shooting a medium range, slow grenade with no real AoE and with a cast time even longer than my amazing penis. You can even do it about 7 times per estus so that means you can even kill one knight and slightly annoy another one.
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>onyx blade has c/c scaling for faith and int, giving around 526 ar on 40/40 without the weapon art that adds around 200ar of fire damage

>dark follower sabre has b/b scaling for faith/int at 40/40, with the dark clutch im getting 530 ar and im denying the penalty with the steel protection +2

Did i found 1 new meta?
I already tested the weapon and im hitting greatsword damage with the follower sabre, and im using big armor for the supposed poise buff
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>>158634640
nah she was fucking gay just like you
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>>158634689
>>158634758
are you still going on about how you're a retard and didn't think to upgrade your flame and use fire orb on shit that's strong against fire
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>>158634710
That's not particularly close to any bonfire though, unless I'm mistaken
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>>158634079
>>158634167
>>158634229
>nu-souls fans

You would be considered laughing stocks a few years ago. Dark Souls becoming popular and leading to casualized sequels for casuals was a shame.

I do enjoy killing shitters in 1v4+ with muh Raw Dragonslayer Axe/Rotten Ghru Spear/Raw Astora Straight Sword thanks to it, at least.
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>>158634689
Didn't we literally just have this conversation last thread? Enough already. You are objectively wrong. Your build is something only a complete fool would use and no one here gives a rats ass about what a normal player would do.
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>>158634809
I'm talking about Fireball at the start of the game before you van even upgrade the Flame. I'm not the other guy.
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>>158634785
>denying the penalty with steel protection +2
no, you're not
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>>158632080
Why does the BMGS do a better job at being the MLGS than the actual MLGS?
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>>158634689

Again you are making the same post, and yet again still ignorant of the fact that karla does not have the best pyromancys, stop being a tool.
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>>158634392
I liked her more once I was finally able to murder her ass and read her soul and weapon descriptions.
I mean, would anything have really changed in "my" world if I left these painting fuckers to rot away? The desire to get more weapons and spells and shit was my main goal, I couldn't honestly give two shits about their little rotting dimension. She just got in the way of that in the end but hey, maybe I made life a little less shit for some disgusting naked crow people.

Truth be told, I shit my pants the first time she came back for a third round and went full ham. Rad fight with great lore all around it, including Gael.
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>>158634689
Why did you write a fucking essay on this? Is this copypasta?
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>>158634883
>great lore
not even remotely
nothing in the dlc felt substantial at all, every NPC was irrelevant
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http://www.strawpoll.me/11521838/

>>158634809
It only gets strong when you get the strong spells, even at +3 with the Great Chaos Fire Orb (Tome found in a completely missable area) it starts one shotting enemies, there's no scaling.


>>158634881
Smouldering Lake and Karla are both missable, you're stuck with Fire Orb even at +10 that deals 350 damage at 30/30
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>>158634797
>Wah, don't disagree with me!
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>>158634854
Wow anon! You must really good! And have lots of oldfag cred!
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>>158634854
You're so fucking autistic, I've been here since the beginning and people have always played like this and anyone who cares as much as you would get laughed at
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>>158634689
>(embed)
>(embed)

holy shit it's a no effort copy pasta
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>>158634845
if you unlock the elevator shortcut you can just take the archives bonfire from there

>>158634865
fireball can oneshot basic hollows and it takes like 4 to kill a knight
also there's so many explosive barrels and things that are weak to fire early game like pus of man and dogs that it negates the fact that there's a couple knights in your way and you'll only need to use like 2 ashen estus max between bonfires

>>158634965
>there's no scaling
can you be more stupid and wrong
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>>158634962
Dark souls NPCs only have two settings. Irrelevant or potentially world ending/saving.
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Yuria gets new dialogue after killing priscilla 2.0
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>tfw I've been playing KH and now keep pressing X to attack
I need a noose.
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>>158635040
because I made a thread about it and pasted it here

>>158635073
why would you use a sub 300 damage fire orb over a raw upgraded weapon?
there's no incentive to upgrade the flame with your limited large titanite shards
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>>158634996
>>158635030
Stay mad, neo-shitters. I'm sorry Dark Souls 2 was your first Souls game, but really it's sad getting this angry on an anonymous image board.
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>>158634854
>lol im le oldfag
>u guys wuld get laughed at haha xD
>twinking

Yeah nice one, as if people wouldn't have shit on you for twinking in the previous games.
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>>158634965
>not finding Karla on the first playthrough
I can kinda understand missing Smouldering Lake if you missed the developer soapstone or the countless others, but missing Karla just means you weren't exploring, she's quite visible in the cell before you have the key and you should remember to come back when you find the Jailer's Key seeing as she's next to a gorillion jailers.
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>>158635095
you mean Maria 2.0
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>>158635126
refer to
>>158635118

No need to shit your diaper, kiddo.
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>>158635118
I've played since DeS. Why do you need to tell yourself I'm new?

People play the game in all sorts of different ways, stop being autistic about it
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>>158635076
these ones are a special brand of absolutely inessential since they have no effect on anything in the real world at all. like "here's this little painter girl, she paints!" and then that's literally all the useful info you get. Gael doesn't even show up again

some of the laziest shit I've seen in a long time
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>>158632231
>>158632347
>>158633008
>>158634689
>>158634965
>>158635105
if you're acting like a retard to get replies, stop
if you're actually a retard to get replies, stop
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>>158635118
Like the other anon, I've been here since DeS. You can go fuck yourself mate. Some people don't want to deal autistic and/or sociopathic invading faggots, and that's their prerogative. If you can't enjoy the hunt it's your problem.
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>>158635186
DON'T compare her to best girl PLEASE
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>>158634640
Nah.
Edgy is an artform. You have to hit the fucking sweet spot with over edge or it just gets mocked.

That's Elfriede. She's impossible to take seriously.
>let it all rot
>rip off your skin off to douse the flames in blood
>twin scythe style: frozen black flame dance
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>>158635171
http://www.strawpoll.me/11521825/rr
results speak for itself

The game also tricks you by giving you Two keys in Irithyll Dungeon, none of which unlocks her cell.
Instead you have to go to the Propaned Capital first, of which th entirety of the swamp is missable because of how it's designed and then backtrack to the dungeon with the key. It would be understandable if they swapped Siegward's and Karla's cell key.
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>>158635278

>maria
>anythnig other than a piece of shit

lmao, BB girls were shiiiit
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>>158635202
How is it lazy for it not to be linked to tell core plot? It's no harder to write words that make them linked. Here: Bob is Gwyn's son and once fugged the Lordvessel. If he died, the Abyss appears. Woo.
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>>158635095
>priscilla 2.0
Not even in the slightest. Priscilla was a joke of a fight, at least Friede brought the cheese.
Girl had fucking dragon blood and all she could do was use a scythe to make you bleed? Fuck the crossbreed.
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>>158635319
you have posted this exact post just slightly reworded like 5 times now
fuck off dude
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>>158635351
WTF stop anon don't say bad things about her please
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>>158635351
Get a load of this faggot.
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>>158635405

shiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiit

and yet this waifu crap is still better than that pyro shitter anon whining about being shit
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>>158635361
there is no plot. old man puts you into magic world, you walk forward and fight random shit until it's over. no one says anything of value, you don't see anything interesting, the end
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>>158635191
>>158635250
please re-read carefully
>>158635118
You don't have to keep shitting your diapers, shitkids.
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>>158635319
The results say you're full of shit, dude.
Did you even look at your own link you posted?
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>>158635319
I can't believe you wrote an essay with polls included to try and back you up. I'm not even reading the shit you're typing but it's hilarious how upset and invested you are in this.
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>>158635432
Ugly man.
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>>158635351
Maria had Annalise's blood in her, she couldn't have been shit.
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>>158635432
Now that bitch could bring the cheese.

Not that you PCucks would know.

N_V_R _V_R
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>>158635314
What the help was the deal with that? Of all the things to smother the flame with, blood? There's a fuckton of snow outside, just get the soup bowl there and have ariandel drop snow in every now and then
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>>158635319
>neither key I got open this door
>hmm, I got another key relating to that area
>fffffuck trying that one
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>>158634854
But complaining about other people not playing by your imaginary rules, specially in invasions, is exactly what neo-souls fags do, and by your post I'm guessing that you're a PCuck who started with DaS, since most neo-souls PCucks seem have this mentality

>>158635118
And right on the money
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>>158635490

I do know actually, I borrowed my friends ps4 to play it and the dlc, it was alright but nothing worth all this flame baiting over.
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>>158635460
I'm not spending any more time reading your dribble, thanks. Stop posting and embarrassing yourself please
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>>158635490
Still not as hard as that faggot in Amelia's church later in the game.
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>>158635515
>>158635469
>>158635465
http://www.strawpoll.me/11521838/r
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How do I not shit the fucking bed against dancer if I'm trying to do her before Vordt? I miss all those titanite shards and the weapon variety from the times of Sword Master cheese.
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>>158635560
I'm not clicking that, why do you think I care? I literally just told you I'm not reading your posts, all I know is that you're whining about pyromancy or some shit.
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>>158635579
>Sword Master cheese
You don't deserve titanite and weapon variety.
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>>158635560
Again, results are saying the opposite of what you said. Please stop posting or just go back to /v/ with these other retards
>>158634854
>>158635118
>>158635460
>>158635490
>>158635525
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>>158632080
>no lore discussion two days after dlc
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>>158635634
T-thanks.
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>>158635558
That faggot was a faggot.
>>158635534
Shut the fuck up, man. If they find out it isn't the best game in the series how are we supposed to bait the shit out of the master race cucks?
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>>158635671
38% of people couldn't find Karla and couldn't get the Black Fire Orb
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>>158635560
it says right now most people managed to free her, what the fuck is your problem?
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Why do people get so triggered when they lose to a sorcerer?

It's not my fault you're too dumb to dodge my spells and rush right at me like a mongoloid only to get one shot by CSS.
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is scott jund "our" guy?
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>>158635536
Yet you keep giving me (You)s, anon.

>>158635525
Sure kid. If you'd stop shitting your diaper for long enough you'd know that I pre-ordered Demon's Souls after having played Shadow Tower and have more time on it than any other Souls games combined.
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>>158635675
Bitch tries to keep fire out of her painting world.
We bring the heat.
Bitch gets pissy.
Bitch has to die.
Also big wolf.
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>>158635720
>beating people with 20 VIG
you're only making retards angry dude

>>158635707
your sample size is so small that the only thing that matters is the majority, not percentages
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>>158635707

>majority did get it.

Whelp, your only digging yourself deeper friend.
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>>158635534
>>158635692
you'll never ever play bloodborne samefagging pcuck kys
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>>158635794
I mean I'm SL 90 right now so I imagine most people have more than 20 VIG unless they're casters like me. Even I have 27.
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>>158635720
The only thing that grinds my gears is H(C)SM, why do sometimes they all go, why do sometimes only a few go then randomly come out later? Why is the activation range inconsistant?
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>>158635854
at SL90 anyone who's not a complete dunce is going to have at least 30-35 VIG+Favor/Life
like I said, retards
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guys, you know he's a retard, just stop responding
>>158635579
why do her that early? with no soul memory, you can just proceed through the game without leveling/upgrading if you want to twink
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>>158635849

But I did, what could I say to convince you otherwise?

It was a great game don't get me wrong but nothing worth all this flaming over, one good thing they brought into ds3 from it was viscerals, man fighting cleric beast with the hunters axe was great, halberd mode bled the living fuck out of that cunt, was viscerals for days.
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>>158635905
I like pretending I'm good at the game and do bosses I shouldn't do earlier than I should do them
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>>158635889
it depends on where the caster is facing
if they turn to face yo uand they're within range they'll all cast simultaneously
if they spin around only a couple will shoot out
it's pretty simple once you realize how it works
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>>158633996

I do that in anor londo for fun. Using the spiral elevator to show them where you roughly are then sneaking around to go back is hilarious
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>>158635949
fuck off pcuck kys
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>>158635973
so couple that with lag and it appears inconsistant I guess
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>>158636038
you're funny dude
I dunno if you're trying to make people mad or whatever but reading your posts makes me giggly
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>>158636078

I'm pretty sure he doesn't even care to be honest, just saying it for shits and giggles. Which is working apparently!
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Is bloodring worth the slot?
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How do I be a metashitter with the Follower's Sabre? I wanted to see what all the fuss was about but it seems pretty mediocre
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>>158633161
>Nobody who fucking killed those things stopped and thought "Gee, sure am glad I can't get their set"

>tfw I was going to complain about exactly that
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>get my ass kicked in pvp all the time
>utterly destroyed using all kinds of different weapons
>this goes on for weeks
>upgrade and equip a Straight Sword
>suddenly become pvp god and start winning every fight
>never get parried because I know how to avoid parries
Is this all there is to winning fights? Use a straight sword or rapier and don't let them parry you?
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why is this the most satisfying shit to pull in the arena
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>>158634570

It stops making the sound when he runs out of FP, and when that happens the dash no longer has i-frames. You just have to wait it out
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>>158636036
This guy gets it. Most invaders I'll just run up and fight, whatever. If I'm bored I'll play some hide and seek and mess with the guy. Leave him a nice prism stone now and then for his effort.
Wasting people's time is fun. I play vidya to have fun.
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>>158635971
>invincible summon kills the boss for you
>heh, im so good
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>>158636226
a 2handed curved sword works too
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"I paid for the game so I can play it however i want!"
>there are still cheaters retarded enough to spout this
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>>158636228
pls send me arena retards
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Daily reminder that if you didn't play Demon's Souls before Dark Souls came out you're not a real Souls fan and your opinion is invalid.
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>>158635973
This.

Homing Soul Mass is a sorcerer's bread and butter. It's the only spell that even players who know how to dodge get hit by.

You can mix it up by facing away from you oppononent then spining around so that they orb fire off at different intervals or just lock on to them (if they're running towards you for example) and the orbs all fire off simultaneously.

It's a trickier spell than it initially seems. I've hit savvy players with it.

It's better to use the Homing Soul Mass version rather than Crystal since it consumes far less FP.
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>>158636226
sounds like you're just bad at timing your swings so you have to use a weapon that can attack multiple times within a few seconds
it'll stop working once you run into decent players but against other bad players it'll work just fine
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>>158636283
#MYWORLDMYRULES
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>>158636319
>reddit souls
good, I don't want to be associated with you
>>
>>158636374
did you just call demon's souls reddit souls

I mean the post you're replying to is obviously bait but are you retarded?
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>>158636429
t. reddit
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>>158636319
I wonder how many people in this thread have the special edition that came with the guidebook.

Probably not many since the last time I was here it was a bunch of PC players.
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>tfw no ciaran set
>only the abyss version of arty's sword
>can't get the plague doctor crystal sage mask without the gigantic hat
>very few returning sets in general
>Ornsteins armor STILL HAS NO PLUME
Hate this game
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>everybody in the arena using DLC meme weapons
>perseverance is actually useful

I hope it never ends.
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>>158636319
I speedran Demon's Souls the day it came out.
On my first try. Flawlessly.
In the original Japanese.
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>>158636619
I'm a PCuck but I played DeS before DaS came out.

I'm not going to Sony jew me into buying a PS4 though. Fool me once...
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>>158636374
>>158636562
spotted the pcuck redditor who started with meme souls
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>>158636709
>defends reddit souls
>calls others redditors
simply epic
>>
>>158636656
>people using Follower's Javelin in Duels
How can people be so stupid? It's just a garbo spear with a WA that you'll never hit someone with
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>>158636319
I had an asian copy when there was no confirmation of it hitting stateside, and loved it.

demons souls is by far the easiest game in the series with the worst online features though.
>>
God I love shitposting
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>>158635779

And there it is. I'm honestly amazed that anyone here took your weak bait, let alone still be taking it, but if further confirmation was needed that you are just here to get replies, that will do nicely.

Enjoy being so bad at the game that you feel the need to complain about it here just to try and Irritate people who don't have your crippling disability
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>>158636807
I know, right? Fresh DLC JUST came out and we're still arguing about the same shit.
By the way you fucking suck at souls games
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>>158636797
Pssh that's nothing.

I had the original alpha version before it was even released because my dad works for Miyazaki.
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>>158636630
>tracers in game's files
>can't get them
>gough's greatbow in the game
>can't get it
>can't get the golden crown without the animu mane
>no silver knight weapons
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>>158636752
meme souls is literally r.eddit: the game and pc is a r.eddit meme, pcuck redditor
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>>158636226
Are crow talons the only caws with a roll thrust?
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>>158636754
>bitches run to chug
>drinks a leo & Hawk ring Heavy spear instead

nigga you just suck with it
>>
are miracles now viable with ariandels flail? at least in pve? how much damage could i expect at 60fth with rings + ariandel from a long range sunlight spear?
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>>158636797
kys pcuck never ever
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>>158636840
kys metashitter
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>>158636813
>a-and t-t-t-t-t-t-t-there it is ;_;
>e-enjoy b-b-b-being so b-bad at the g-g-game you
>(You)

And there it is :^)
>>
>>158636895
you seem to love reddit, seeing how often you mention it
you should probably go back there
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>>158637071
>>158636895
>you're from reddit :-DDDDD
>no, YOU'RE from reddit xDDD
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>>158637108
>t. redditor
>>
>>158637071
you type like a redditor
fuck off reddit pcuck kyts
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why the fuck is crow talons the most annoying fucking thing ever
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>>158637023
Post your Xbox One Gamertag so I can invade you and kick your ass.
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Do the rankings really cap at gold? I feel like I ranked up way too fast.
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>crow talons
>naked with only 1 kirk armor piece
>greatshield

I hope you fucking drown in acid and slowly at that
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>>158637131
>not typing like a retard makes me an user of your favourite website
lol
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>>158637149
XxRedditIsMyLife4209669xX
>>
>trying to do a dried finger ariamis run
i have made a grave mistake
>>
>>158637235
what exactly would be the issue here?
>>
>>158634689
>doing a mage run on your first playthrough
>>
I'll just ask again. Is there something I need to do to get patches to move from the cathedral to firelink? I beat deacons and the watchers, I'm part way through the catacombs and don't want to overshoot, but he hasn't been at firelink any of the times I went to check.
>>
>>158637236
kys redditor
>>
>>158637365
You're not allowed to ask questions here, only shit posting and ironic shit posting is allowed

I think I'm done with these threads
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>>158637365
You mean get him to do his sneaky elevator trick in the tower? Go up the elevator then go back down the elevator up where you get the firekeeper soul.
>>
>>158637402
>kys
>redditishere memes
what a surprise
>>
>>158637441
kys reddit cuck
>>
>>158637439
>/dsg/
>think
lolno
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>>158637458
Ah, that explains it. Thanks. I went up but thought I had to roll down or something and he'd locked it anyway. Thanks mate.
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r8

Also what hair/eye color combo should I go for?
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>>158637490
Good luck. NPC movement can be fucky sometimes. Just ride back down and he should have locked the gate behind you and be all 'oi get fucked, m8'
>>
>dsg in a worse state than bbg
how is this possible?
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>>158637342
why am i not surprised shitters in dsg defend shitters
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>2v2s
>running up the pillar and doing jump attacks with 66str yhorms + warcry
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>>158637481
kys redditor
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>Lost to fucking twinaxes in arena

I think I need to go to bed
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>>158637553
Because the DLC was medicore and shitposting is more fun
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>all those babies trying to do dried finger playthroughs thinking their butt buddies will protect them from getting absolutely ravaged in dlc
>can't even take responsibility and face consequences of their own fuck ups
>>
>>158637595
twinaxes are not nearly as bad as everyone says they are
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>>158637667
Nice meme weapon and connection, shitlord
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>>158637532
Delete immediately/10
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>>158637579
nice reposting, reddit trash
>>
>>158637553
pcuck redditors are the problem
>>
Has any one else noticed just how badly crow talons DEMOLISH in pve? I just tor the faggot princes a new one by spamming that WA
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>>158637532
she looks sad, 6/10
Black hair, green eyes
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>>158637745
kys redditor
>>
Could someone drop me a stack of embers on PS4? I've hit a brick wall with Friede and I'm running out.
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>>158637553

Influx of /v/ due to dlc, its also school holidays in Britbongland
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>>158637808
kys redditor
>>
>>158637808
kys redditor
>>
>>158637801
I actually dont know how to make smiles without making niggerlips, is there a trick to it?
>>
>>158637792
They are one of the fastest bleed-applying weapons in the game so fuck yeah they destroy pve. Massive HA on weapon art helps as well. Probably the best claws in series overall even if they didn't get as much love as crow quills as far as moveset goes.
>>
>>158637837
>>158637843
kys redditors
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>>158637828
Did you get all possible ashes? Most of them give buyable Embers
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>all these cancerous shit builds in arena
>people just going DMB halberd great shield and being complete niggers

Theres literally no saving this asscancer garbage of a PvP I guess
>>
>>158637854
I don't know, I just use the default face, it's more the eyes that give me the impression though
>>
>>158637889
kys redditor
>>
>>158637921
>ever touching duels
>not doing 6 player brawl for maximum fun
>>
>>158637921
>arena
There's your problem
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>>158637532
Fucking weeb
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>>158637562
>shitters
>defend
woah buddy, you make an awful lot of assumptions there
>>
anyone of you have experience with twinking using greatswords?
how much end should i have if im doing a sl45 twink build
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>>158638023
A lot.
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>>>158637954
kys redditor
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>>158637569
The funny thing is that they sometimes wait at the pillar id you keep your distance for it, people doing that only are too scared for a legit battle
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>>158638023
Enough for two swings + 1-2 roll aways.

In my experience 20 end is fine.
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>lol invasions are a mess, always a gank and infinite estus? rofl gay ass fucking RUINED pvp nice job from

>arena? ROOOFFFLLL only full of METACUNTS how could they be os FUVCKING STPID with this game mode rofllllll

so basically /vg/ is just full of salty kids
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>>158638167
Bitching about video games you put hundreds of hours into is part of the fun.
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@158638075 (You)
kys redditor
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>>158638167
Basicly the game's PvP is fucking asscancer

Been seeing the same cancerous asshole niggerfaggot with his great shield, no clothing and crow talons being an all around nigger in the arena, i bet it was one of you fucking faggots, you seem perfect to be playing a cancerous waifu meta build
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>>158638167
Dark souls pvp is just shit. It always has been. It's like a fighting game where every "character" (weapon) has 1 good move and 7 shit ones and some characters just so happen to be so good the rest are invalidated.
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@158638226
kys.redditor (embed)
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>>158638167
I'd do duels exactly as they are in an arena the size and shape of demon bridge elevator zone.
You'd need to be retarded to think current one is acceptable, so I just stall 3 minutes right at the start with regen to piss people off
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So am missing something with the Crow's Quills?

Why is the weapon art doing 7-10 damage per dagger?
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Reminder that this general is dying and all around being cancer is because:

1. PvP is the worst in the entire series, arena is full of niggers playing meta builds and being faggots with said builds

2. Invading is also the worst in the entire series, if you cant enjoy arena, enjoy running into ganks in literally every area of the game because the game is made to put 1 guy against 3-4 at all times

3. the overall game is lacking and dissapointing
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>>158638167
>doing fun as fuck invasions, destroying chapel bridges then watching as people get demolished going through great hollow 2.0
>tab back to /dsg/ once in a while
>it's either shitposting or another crybaby who can't win for shit blaming everyone around him for his troubles
>tab back into the game
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>Please wait until all combatants have joined

Why's it so hard to get a match on ps4? I'm constantly sitting at 1/2 players or 3/4 etc.
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''dark souls was a mistake'' -/dsg/
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>>158638360
I dunno, Bloodborne's PvP is trash too and /bbg/ seems to still be alive, but also cancer
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>>158638417
game is dead on ps4
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>>158638348
because weapon art should be used as either a way in or a finisher and has a followup stab that does heavy damage
it's basically a shotgun-type attack with heavy stagger
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>>158638417
>ps4
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>>158638348
Because the WA is stylish garbage, anon
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>>158638437
Bloodborne had better PvP, mostly in the aspect of FC's in every possible way
>>158638417
its already fucking dead lmfao, Ive seen the same piece of niggershit 5 times in an hour now in different matches, just give up, I fell for the sonygger meme and so did you

at least I got a new PC to buy the game for
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>>158638417
level?
on pc arena is instant around SL70-120
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>>158638505
>better pvp

the game had ranged fucking parrying and you're telling me it was better

the game had THE BEASTHUNTER FUCKING SAIF and you're telling me it was better

piss off, cunt. I tried to get beastclaws to work in that garbage fucking pvp and it was the most fun I had, and it STILL felt like a fucking chore
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>>158638505
>dash spam while occasionally shooting your gun fishing for 1hk viscerals
BB PvP was complete shit
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>>158638617
>BECAUSE BLOODBORNE TIER ROLLING AND ALMOST NEVER BEING ABLE TO HIT SOMEONE IN DS3 WHILE THEY CHUG AND USE GS'S AND SPEARS IS BETTER

AHAHAHAHAHAH
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>>158638505

>Bloodborne had better PvP

Woah there buddy, careful with those hot steaming opinions.
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What if the next souls type game made by From Software is even more underwhelming in terms of replayability and pvp mechanics?
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>>158638505
Blood Gems alone invalidated BB pvp. The fact that Dexfags got B E T T E R C R I T I C A L S was icing on the fucking cake.
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>lone faggot host thinks i will honor duel him as an invader despite 30% hp difference
>chug right into his faggy face
>punish his own chugging
>he immediately adds me to friends just to tell that he "let me win"
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>>158638665
there wont by any

I just fucking hope for that new armored core, they need to lay off souls tier games, theyve proven theyre clearly incompetant

Also PCcucks need not apply, they have a contract with Sony for future game releases, you better pack your gear and be the salt in /v/ the coming years, cuck
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>>158638652
Yes it is
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>>158638737
I own both a PS4 and PC though, some of us earn money - You should try it. I do agree that they need to lay off making souls games for a while though.
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>>158638810
They are. Supposedly.
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Is SL80 with +10 weapons too high for the DLC on NG?
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>>158638810
>You should try it

I was calling you a cuck because I own both as well, but im glad to see im not the only savage PCnigger in this general at least
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>>158638737
>Fromsoft
>Going back to selling 50k copies of Armored Core for a bunch of losers when they could rake in trillions of dollars by making hacky wacky darky slashy souls 52
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>>158638935
Except that they literally fucking stated they wont be touching souls tier games for a while

someone link this faggot the interview
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>>158638994
Right, right. So instead we'll just get some brand spanking new souls-lite with some new mechanics or something. Not the same at all i'm sure.
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>>158639082
I think it will be Bloodborne like, hopefully not BB2
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>>158639082
Slashy Souls 2
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>>158638875
I did it at around that, it's fine. A bit on the easy side at points but 80's okay unless you're like hardcore min/maxed.
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>>158639082
>>158638994
>>158638935
>>158638737
ARMORED SOULS

INTRODUCING: MECHON ARTS, THEY COST MECH POINTS TO CAST BUT DO A TOTALLY NEAT GIMMICK

INTRODUCING: MECHTUS FLASKS
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>>158639082
>>158639238
If they will resort to souls again, and hopefully continue making the game as good as BB, and not the rushed garbage shit that is half of DS3, and with a cyberpunk setting, then they can go ahead
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>Pontiff is from the painted world
>creator of ice sorcery
>Friede uses a frost-enchanted scythe
>dual-wields weapons just like him
Was she his mentor?
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>>158638348
Speaking of, can you use the wa evasively?
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>>158639238
>MECHTUS FLASKS

keked
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>perfect safe vantage point to watch 2v2s from when one of your opponents drops

comfy/10
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>>158639295
If timed right yes
Do not attempt vs fast weapons, dodge rolls are always more efficient in any case
But it looks hella cool to dodge a UGS swing by doing a ninja jump
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>>158639339
Get down there and gank his ass.
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Daily reminder that gravetender could have given you good fashion but instead they gave you some LMAO DARK SOULS 1 and didn't even bother to use chaos blade
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sister friede in ng+2 sucks ass jesus
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I read that someone claimed that backsteps in dark souls 3 actually do have iframes, just 4 iframes. Is this true? I'm rather skeptical about backsteps having no iframes, didn't backsteps in Dks1 have a small amount of iframes too?
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>>158639289

I thought Sully only used sorcery until he made the profaned flame and then the sword of judgement after he stole Gwyndolin's post.
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Enough arguing. Post Ashen Ones!
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>>158639407
They should have reintroduced giantdad armor...
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Anyone got the item ids for ashes of arinadel?
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>>158639479
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What's the consensus of Friede's Great Scythe?
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>>158639574
run
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Am I the only one that thinks Demon's Souls is the hardest one in the series? I started it after Dark Souls 1, 2, and Bloodborne and everyone has been telling me that it's the easiest in the series but it's kicking my ass and I'm loving it
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>>158639574
fun as fuck to use and it's the only thing that matters
use the whole moveset, it has tools for virtually any situation
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>>158639479
Wouldst thou summon?
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>>158639750
Depends, how big are them 'splosions?
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>>158639479
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ded game
ded thred
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>>158639643
Bloodborne. The cursed rotting fetid whatever chalice dungeons where you're massively gimped.
Hardest thing I've ever done in a souls game.
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>>158639615
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mw2kKyJu9gY
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>Cross-region matchmaking: Off
>On PC
>Go into Arena
>Hit someone
>Takes 3 seconds to register
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just a heads up, there's an anti cheat able up on the cheat engine forums - it's worth using
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The sooner you come to terms with the fact that the PvP in every souls game isn't anything to take seriously at all, the sooner you will enjoy the series more.

Be free.
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>>158639918
Cross-region just means japan.
2bh they might still lag less than 'stralians
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>>158639956
Then why is it that in Ds1 and 2 despite the gimped cancer it was still 5 times more fun than in 3 though?
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>>158639479
i think i'm in love with the onyx blade
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>mfw fighting sully after doing dlc
>mfw he grows corvian wings
It call makes sense now
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>>158639997
Three games of similar situations tend to make people jaded.
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>>158639956
I don't take it seriously, but I don't find DaS3's fun either. Which is the gripe, at least for me. I don't get too worked up about it though, the PvP in these games is usually seeing what mess From can shit out in their incompetence and seeing if you enjoy it.

>>158639981
>2bh they might still lag less than 'stralians
this
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How would you fix PvP in DS3 anons?
Hard mode: While keeping instant Estus
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Friede on NG+9 is the most unfun shit ever
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>>158639268
What would a cyberpunk souls game be like? Moving around like Friede?
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>>158640041
His motivation, his combat style, his wings are all explained by this DLC which is pretty awesome.
The only things we don't know at this point is what the fuck is profaned flame and Angels.
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>>158640136
Fix the root of the majority of issues that plague the entire series, that being however they handle connections between players.
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>>158640136
it doesn't need fixing as invasions are fun as fuck
the only thing i would change is add instability frames for the duration of chugging so any hit during estus animation demolishes your HP
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>I have died over roughly 70 times to friede across three characters
>Tearing my hair out over this bitch, mad as shit.
>New char, run through the dlc again
>this time pick up crow's talons
>Apply bleed
>backstab my way through first phase
>SHRED father on the second phase
>DEMOLISH friede on the third
Holy shit I hope From never nerfs these things, they are fucking brutal. First time killing her in one attempt.
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>>158640136
Make the connections not shit, or at least make hits not client side
Make it so split damage isn't absolute piss
Make it so 90% of spells aren't absolute piss
Buff Knight Slayer's Ring so it isn't absolute piss
Make meme shit like a frost-centered build would be viable
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>spawns into 6-man brawl
>rolls away until nobody is near
>spams chaos bed vestiges to steal kills
>r1's you with straight sword if u get too close
>chugs unlimited blue drink
>repeat
>win

pshhh.. try harder next time kid..
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>>158640156
>His motivation, his combat style are all explained
They are? elaborate please
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>>158640224
What infusion? They seem to work about as well as a bacon canoe for me
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>>158639981
>>158640116
You cunts talking shit?
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>>158640136
Dedicated server
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>arena doesn't give cov rewards
how could from drop the ball this hard?
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>>158640303
Just refined with carthus rouge
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>>158640290
His motivation is derived from the ideology of painted world dwellers: they don't chose to rot in a dying world, they destroy it alongside themselves and recreate it anew. Sully tries his hardest to stop fire linking so the Flame may die and world can reset itself naturally.

His combat style clearly derived from Friede's. Friede wields magical frost scythe and she's not a frost sorcerer but pyromancer which means that thing was made by someone else and the only frost sorcerer we know about is Sully.
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>arena
>guy pulls out Rose of Ariandel as soon as match starts
>let him do its buff thing
>he just does it until he kills himself
Okay
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>>158640407
gg no re
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>>158640407
Sounds a hell of a lot more honest and to the point than everyone else still PvPing.
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>>158640303
>>158640354
I'll just point out though that refined alone is kicking some real ass for me. I only applied the rouge because of the boss fight.
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>>158640323
I thought it had that already
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>>158640491
Maybe it's good in NG,because it ain't doing shit in NG+2
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Anyone figured out what triggers Vilhelm's death for some people when they run up to the rooftop from him?

I really don't feel like fighting him with my SL15 no-upgrades character.
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>that violin part in Gravetender boss fight
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Are they the hardest boss in DS3 now?
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>>158640812
Yes, by far. I went through hell of chalice tier 5 dungeons and Friede still took me around 40 minutes on ng+7.
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>>158640654
Im in ng+
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>>158640774

I can hardly focus on boss music in 3 because the game is currazey fast
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>>158639479
DLC didn't provide nearly enough fashion, but the ones that were provided were pretty good
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>>158640812
Yes. I hope they never design another boss like them, though.
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>>158640136
-increase roll stamina consumption, not so much that it affects pve, but enough that people cant just mash roll 10 times with no penalty

-Increase the reliability of backstabs

(Seriously it's even less reliable than in ds2. I'm not asking for ds1 sticky backstabs but holy shit is it impossible to punish people beyond roll catching with a ccs or ss. Whats even worse is the fact you'll always get locked into the backstab animation.)

-Make hornet ring damage scale harder with crit rating so it's less useful on weapons with default crit rating.

-reduce startup parry frames on small shields and ceastus to 12 (removing instant/reaction parries basically)

-seeds can't be used if you have phantoms, and phantoms canted be summoned if you have a seed popped(outside of WoTB)

-remove carry limits on hunter charms

-invaders can be embered but you'll lose the ember if you fail an invasion

-make poison/toxic not completely useless
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>>158640812
longest, no bullshit camera. the only con is that she staggers.
they're easily in the top 2
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>>158640812
Id go far as saying the hardest boss in all the series.
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>this cutie created the majority of best souls boss themes
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>>158640812

Unfamed Ruler is still harder for me. Other than him, yes.
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>>158640950
That isn't Yuka Kitamura though.
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>>158640812
Did people really think they were that hard?
Took me 4 tries on NG+++
Literally just stagger her and b line for ariandel in phase 2

Nameless king was a lot harder, and so was soul of cinder imo.
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>>158640937
>the only con is that she staggers
if she didn't stagger the battle would be a fucking hell
especially with phase 3 AI where she's extremely passive aggressive and punishes for all attempts to get near her
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>>158640936
I agree with everything and sign my name on it, but touching rolls in any way now will affect PvE unless they patch Friede to be less spammy on her third phase. I still think they should patch this boss but this is even more unrealistic to happen.
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>>158641050
What weapon were you using?
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I askes a few days ago why the fuck valorheart didn't have 100% phys defence and some one said that if you use the wep in the offhand you cna block with it. But I just realized, how is that any different from offhanding a shield? You get a straight sword's r1 moveset, yeah but that's a compromise for no weapon art or parry.
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>>158640936
>Increase the reliability of backstabs

stopped reading there
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>>158640812
Yes but for all wrong reasons. You're basically fighting a bloodborne boss while stuck in dark souls speed. I remember having to roll up to 10 times to dodge her combos on third phase, which is ridiculous.
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>>158641201
Carthus curved greatsword
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Need help
On NG++
Not getting anywhere on phase 3.
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>>158640812

I don't think she is that hard, it's just that when you finally get to phase 3 you're tired and she seems harder than she is. Once you can reliably get past phase 1 and 2 without taking damage she isn't that hard, she is still hard, but i think Champ and Nameless still have her beat.
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So what's the consensus on when one should do the DLC?
I'm SL76 and am at the start of Irithyl (though I also did Dancer early and did everything up to Grand Archives as a result).
I'm assuming I'm just good to go, but I figured I may as well check.
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>>158641341
~50 on NG
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>>158641243
You can get parried by the same person you're trying to backstab while in the backstab animation.
Its shit.
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>>158641304
Platform?
Also, I find her a lot easier if you try to stick somewhat close to her. She doesn't want to do a lot of her bullshit moves if you do, and her normal attacks are pretty easy to dodge and punish.
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>>158641304
persevere dude
dont wanna cheap out and summon

rethink your build/rings/ weapon maybe
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>>158641203
It's different because you can follow up with a shield bash that is actually fast and gives you enough time to land 2 hits in with the sword.

Against slow weapons you can tank the first hit, lionbash to stun, then hit back. It works 100% of time even when dead angled for some reason.

I haven't found any way to get around this so far. That shield tanks and can stun me out even of perseverance.
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>>158641341

I went there at SL60 and managed to do everything except the final boss, which i did at SL70. So you should be fine.
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>>158641341
sl60-80 ng

anyone that says it's too high is a memer
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>>158640812
I haven't had any trouble with them so far since you can stagger Frieda like the Abyss Watchers. When I get a character with heavy weapons to that point I could see them being pretty nasty.
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>>158640812
>can be parried
>can be backstabbed
>can be staggered
>hard

If she's one of the hardest bosses, it's only because DS3's bosses are way too easy.
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Are daggers good? what's the best dagger around?
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>>158641363
Only on whiffs. Actual backstabs can't be parried.
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>>158641361
>SL50
Fuck I don't want to be steamrolling everything.

>>158641385
>>158641402
I guess I should do it sooner rather than later then. Thanks, anons.
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>>158640193
It's peer 2 peer. That is why laggy fucks can host FCs
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>>158641415
ultras work fine for ng, but above ng++ you're gonna get fucked for missing with slow weapons
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GREAT SPIKED SHIELD

Deals damage by walking into enemies and shielding
Reflects 10% of damage done
Increases weapon breakage against the shield by 500%
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>tfw already bored of DS3 again
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>>158641363
Good. Fuck off with this "CANNED ANIMATION 1SHOT XD" bullshit. More damage to someone who isn't managing their positioning correctly is fine, straight up 75%-100% of your health in a stupid animation is not.
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Can you get the variant of armour the knights have in the Consumed Garden? Or just the armour from Cathedral?
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>>158641365
PC
>>158641373
Don't worry I won't summon, I may adjust my characters stats etc. The issue on phase 3 is that I'm not doing enough damage (using Dark Sword) and im having trouble dealing with her long combo's as well as dodging the aoe's. As others have said I don't see her phase 3 as extremely difficult (it's still one of the harder bosses imo) however it's the drawn out slog to get to her that's messing with me.
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>>158641485
same desu
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>>158641513
What do you think this is, DS2?
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>>158641341
I started it at level 30ish with one character and it was a nightmare. That character's now level 40ish and I'm stuck on Vilhelm because if he hits me once with that greatsword it'll take most of my health so if he decides to hit me again I'm boned.

I've figured out that you can cheese him by pulling out a catalyst, it triggers his vow of silence (or whatever it's called) so you can get some free hits.
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>>158641341
Level doesn't matter much.

What matters is Estus upgrade, because this DLC has no actual closed very hard challenges, but long sections that will drain your estus. Little by little you'll end up without estus. This is specially true with Friede, if you don't have enough estus or upgraded it enough, you'll end up in Phase 3 with 3 estus remaining.

It doesn't matter if you did it SL 70 or 120, as long as your weapon is +10, your estus +8 and you have at least 13 of them, you can do it. This DLC was harder on my fast done 120 PvP character with 7 estus+3 than with my PvE just killed SoC SL 70 character with full estus upgrades.
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Wew

>r8 my character and fashion

I just finished the story and AoA. If I go to 120 for the meta duels(Although invading the Grand Archives is too damn fun at the moment), I'll rebuild to drag my faith up to 60 and start buffing with dark blade.

Is there a good place to get summoned for Darkmoon shizz? No one's invading in AoA, I was getting more procs in the Archives.
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>>158641427
The point is that 95% of backstabs are whiffs because of how shit the animation is and how fast rolling and weapon recovery is in this game.

I've been backstabbed maybe 5 times in the 7 months I've played this game. I'be backstabbed maybe 5 people, not counting ones who didn't see me. I pvp nonstop.

It's shit.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ziQvZgWnLoM

Why is this guy such a faggot?
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>decide to bumrush through my second run through of the DLC
>complete it in less than an hour
This DLC is disappointingly short.
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>>158641494
>backstabs are harder to pull of in 3
>deal less damage than riposites which are way more common

If anything, if backstabs!were unchanged they should be 1hkos with hornet mail breakers. Given how hard they are to pull off, you deserve to get fucked by them. You can't even be backstabbed if you estus with an opponent right behind you and in fact they're punished for not just doing an R1-R1 combo instead.
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>>158641619
jewishgirl.jpeg
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>>158641724
>r8 my character and fashion
I like it desu
>executioner's GS
my nigga
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>>158641478
>Deal damage by walking into enemies and shielding

Sounds OP if you corner someone
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>>158641517
>using a dark sword
>having trouble with Friede

Tell me when you upload your review dude
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>>158641753
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jfQ0qcd25Tk
Oh god he's so autistic
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>>158641494
>75-100%

literally never happens

backstabs do at most 60%

riposte actually one shot, and those are way easier to pull off with a small shield or ceastus and a weapon swap
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>>158641753
go make threads on /v/
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>>158641753
>DS2's falconers had a cool saber that you couldn't use
>Some of BB's human enemies had a cool saber that you couldn't use
>DS3 finally introduces a nice saber
>Everyone dickrides it and I'm going to be tired of seeing it within 2 weeks
>Everyone will think I'm a meta shitter instead of a guy who just likes sabers
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>>158637569
>see someone go up the pillar
>pelt them with magic/crossbow bolts until they come down

wew

DS2 dragonform stats in DS3 when?
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>>158632257
>our guy
Nutz Gaming
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>gold in solo and group
>still plays worse than your average pontiff shitter
man this community has gone to shit hasn't it
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>>158641905
>>158641781
>Someone claims backstabbing is cancer (it is, was, and always will be)
>Backstabbing is apparently fine because parry fishing is even worse

Did everyone here already forget what PvP in DaS1 was like or are we just pretending to be retarded, because the only reason ripostes weren't even more common than the retarded backstabs in that game was the fact that the shit netcode meant you had to parry a fucking absurd amount of time earlier
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>>158641930
I am seriously getting tired of being chased by 2 faggot 2 handing that thing

that and people who switch to an uchi as they chase.
>>
IF THEY DON'T HIT YOU, YOU SHOULDN'T GET BLEED BUILD UP
WHY THE FUCK IS THIS SO HARD FOR YOU MIYAZAKI
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>>158641619
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succ

I never knew about the flying dialogue. Told her I could, shit's adorable as hell.
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>>158642013
YOU RIKE IT
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>>158641781
>If anything, if backstabs!were unchanged they should be 1hkos with hornet mail breakers. Given how hard they are to pull off,

kys shitter DaS2 did it right with backstab prevention armor/rings

you only get parried if you're a predictable r1 mashing shitter
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>>158642013
Glancing blow lad, like a little nick, but not something that actually drives a deep gash like a solid hit would do.

Now, bleed buildup with shields? That's fucking silly.
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>>158641994
Nobody is asking for ds1 backstabs, we all know those were shit.

You're failing to realize that not only are backstabs in ds3 worse than ds2, but because of how fast-paced ds3 is, you will very very rarely ever backstab.

Weapons recovery too quickly and rolls are damn near instant. Weapons also have insane tracking this time around too.


Backstabs are fucking shit
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>>158642037
I found that line extra funny for obvious reasons
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Just got to Friede and fuck, how do I do the third phase? I can dodge all her attacks, but fuck I'm always at negative stamina when I see either opening or get a parry through.

Is 18 endurance too low for this?
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>>158642037
Post yfw Pontiff saved his halfbreed gf by flying her up the tower.
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>>158642196
Are you implying Pontiff is a crow or a dragon?

because otherwise that shit doesn't make sense
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>>158642076
>you only get parried if you're a predictable r1 mashing shitter

t. ceastus user

parry shields and ceastus make instant parrying a reality

90% of weapons can be parried on reaction with those.
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>>158642137
>Backstabs are fucking shit

t.someone who hasn't ever used an ultra or magic
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>>158642196
my gf, lad.

Plus, can Pontiff do any wrong? He's the best boss fight and definitely the 'main villain' of the game. Shame we finished with him so early.

>>158642226
Sillyman does have wings and he is from the Painted world, he also flies in the boss fight. Could be a Corvian or something.
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>>158641994
Look at how it is in 3, how often do you see backstabs?
I've never been backstabbed unless I was afk or plain outskilled. It's nowhere near 1's stabs, whose issue wasn't the damage at all, but the ease with how they were pulled. It's impossible to chain or side stab in 3 and most attemps can just be walked from. If they had more damage without changing any other property it'd not be cancerous at all and a rightful punishment for poor playing, like R1ing twice with a halberd without confirming the first hit
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>>158642242
people who plan to parry are so fucking obvious

eat my combustion shit head it's what you deserve
>>
enisle showing how it's done once again

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tZpVyXc0t2s
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Ocelotte?
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>>158642298
>he is from the Painted world

source? I've never heard of that up until now
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>>158642394
Frost Weapon description IIRC.
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>>158642035
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>>158642076
Feel free to show you getting a backstab in 3 legit
If you get backstabbed you made a mistake
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>>158641417
>>can be parried
Only in first phase
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>>158642003
>people who switch to an uchi as they chase

Some time ago I died to a katana stab where the sword itself didn't even appear on my screen.
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>>158642328
1hks are a cancer and any one who supports them should fuck off
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>>158642196
This actually makes a lot of sense
Explains why she thinks its normal to have wings if she saw Sully's wings
It also makes sense he wouldn't kill her like he killed everyone else because she reminded him of Prissy
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>>158636871
>no silver knight weapons

Worst crime right there.
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At what level would it be acceptable to start the DLC? I lost all my saves and just wanna get to the DLC as fast as possible.
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>>158642472
Call Vaati
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>>158642408
>

One of the spells left behind by the young sorcerer Sulyvahn before leaving the Painted World. Imbues right-hand weapon with frost.

Sulyvahn was born and raised inside the painting yet had little use for his frigid homeland, since he had not yet experienced loss.


I'll be damned, I guess you might be on to something about him being a corvian.

wait

does that make Yorshka the painting womans mom?

Did Sully take her with him?
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>>158642527
50 on NG
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>>158632080
I like this thing. Can I still be mildly menacing with the leo ring and a lot of patience?
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>>158641373
Done!
>>158641365
Thanks for the tip on staying close.
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>>158642527
>>158641640
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>>158642527
30

you'll want 60 for the later bits if you're not MLG pro tho
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>>158642449
Then we should remove riposites, bkgs r1r2, nerf dark hand kissu and hyper mode builds.
I hadn't seen the mistakes of my ways, but you made me see the light anon
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>>158642556
>can the ring that boosts thrust counters by 30% effective with a thrust only weapon?

are u dumb
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>>158640496
Only for matchmaking, all gameplay is still P2P
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>>158641243
>>158641494
you guys just have ptde ptsd. right now it's impossible to bs someone walking away from you
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>>158642740

So if the host is laggy, everyone lags?
>>
>Blackfire Friede has a nick of life
>I can do it
>dodge her combo
>Press R1 with the force of 100 volcanoes
>character starts the slowass backstab animation instead of just attacking
>it whiffs (or course)
>Friede punishes me for it
>kill me in a single combo

I have no picture to illustrate how mad I am and I have a pretty big reaction folder.
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>>158642534
What if Elfriede was the one who corrupted Sully?
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>>158642638
> nerf dark hand kissu

HAHAHAHA

g8 b8 m8

here's your (you) you really got me going there
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>>158642808
Pretty much
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>>158642823
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>>158642178
This anon here.

>>158642573
Nice. Just killed her myself for the first time. I had about 50 hp and no estus and she had a sliver of health left.

I threw a throwing knife just when she charged at me, which ended up killing her. My hands were shaking too much to let go of my controller to take a screenshot. They still are shaking.

Not a bad feeling at all.
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>>158642808
No, idiot. Everyone is connected to everyone. There is no "host" in a networking sense.
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>>158642556
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UPEvhZeDc6w
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Guys I really wanna make the dragonform work

What are the best flynn weapons out there?
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Weyland Samson you're the dude from the FC aren't you?

I just dueled you on my Sorcerer character.

Good fight man.
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>>158642167
>not cornyx's set
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>>158642831
I was being sarcastic there. Dark kand kissu is unironically a one hit kill on twinks since the damage is pretty big and it got buffed. If you do manage to land it on some unsuspecting noob, you'll kill them.
I'm just saying if something as rare as backstabs doesn't deserve 1hko state, nor do any of those, and I'm all for the bkgs one hit kill because ot just looks amazing when you do pull it off
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>>158642920
Hello
Good g
You should mix it up a bit more and give me that Heysel dick when I'm chasing you around
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I'm so sick of farming souls

Can some kind anon please drop me 99 soulshit please
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>>158642823
I got you senpai
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>>158642891
I'm much the same, what a relief and I actually enjoyed the last phase this time...savoring the moment lads.
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>>158642369
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>>158642829
>go out and form a creepy church dedicated to the dark

holy shit
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>>158642982
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>>158642897

I can't believe that because whenever Drake hosts an FC the connection in general goes to hell for me, not just to him.
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>>158641892
He seems pissed off every time when he plays.
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>>158643016
>They model the toenails
Miyazaki got no limit does he?
>>
Wish the arena wasn't online pvp and you could pay against npcs. I'm not about to shill for psn
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>>158642917
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mK1SnpT4JiQ

here you go my man
best build in the egame
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>>158642970
Yeah I'm still learning the ropes of sorcery in PvP. I'm kinda scared to contest anyone in melee aside from the occasional roll catch. I'm slowly getting the hang of it.
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>>158643016
boy, these are uglier than mine, even disregarding the color
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>>158641892
Reminder he's from
>uzbequistain
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Ahahahahah


I'm not a lady, you faggot.
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At SL80 should I use Life Ring +3 or Hunter's Ring for more damage?
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>>158643094
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>>158643181
are you legitimately retarded and or autistic
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>>158643115
Can't do this anymore, tumble and gesture buff are no more
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>>158642338
>The length on his videos

He is insane or anybody watching all of it are.

Also

>Nobody has started using warpick yet.
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>>158643187
friendly reminder that health is for faggots that can't play the game
damage and stamina is all you need to succeed in life
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>It is said that the Millwood Knights used these to face their sworn enemy, the Abyss Dragon.
So, who's the abyss dragon? Kaathe?
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>>158642528
On it, but first someone has to make a lore post on leledit.
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>>158643181
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>>158643301
Kalameet
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>>158643229
since dlc patch?
apparently it still worked 2 weeks ago
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>>158639479
We Bloodborne now
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>>158643209
No, but I do like to joke around.
>>
>>158643337
Yeah, 1.08 patched both of them
>>
>Boss get bloodborne dash
>We don't
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yes hello how does soul level matchmaking in the arena work?

thanks in advance
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I've beat the dlc on a testing build NG+7
how hard is the dlc for a:
SL120 quality ng+2?
SL80 faith ng?
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>>158643181
Now post how you ravaged Vilhelm's boipussy.
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>>158643393

I beat it on NG+2 at SL120.

It was extremely easy.
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>>158639479
get /fit/ for her anon
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>>158643375
I know it's an unintended bug and all, but why the fuck do they bother fixing this shit anyway
It's not like it's even remotely possible in PvP, and hardly anyone knows about it in PvE. Even then, it can't break PvE by itself. It's like how they nerfed Soul Stream, it's just a "fuck you" to people who wanted to have fun with it.
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>>158643046
geif please

if a pop a pass dsg on PC where will you be
>>
>tfw still no FP regen ring
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>>158639479
E X P L O D I N G
A R R O W S
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>>158642338

What happened here: https://youtu.be/tZpVyXc0t2s?t=28m33s
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>>158643404
A bit of poison on my blade and after that the flame enchantment.


You faggot.
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nice ladder From
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>>>>158643479
>It's not like it's even remotely possible in PvP

You're so innocent anon.
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>>158643273
Implying you need any stats.

>wearing a full set of armor and using a shield
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>>158643475
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>>158643585
Don't act like it wasn't worth the climb, anon.

you know you liked it
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>>158643585
>Bashing Gilligan's masterwork
You ignorant fool, that ladder was his crowning achievement in ladder technology

It was his life's work, and you DARE to thumb your nose at it? Uncultured swine.
>>
>>158643585
What a thrill
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>>158643585

What was Gilligan doing in the painted world?
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>>158643591
I have literally never see anyone do it in PvP. Even if I'm an outlier, there's no way it's actually used enough to be a problem.
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>>158643385
Weapon art dash is pretty close.
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>>158643541
it makes no absolute sense.
you could say the hitboxes fucked up but later you see the player using the same WA and doesn't that much stamina
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>>158643375
hellodarknessmyoldfriend

>>158643479
honestly if you practice you can get it down pretty smoothly in pvp, well not during a duel but during the preparation
I got it about 50% of the time after some practice
>>
Is Pontiff on PC dead?
>>
>>158643585
Why does it only appear after you kill the angry tree lady ?
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>>158643094

Even giants have toenails
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>>158643585
>wind blows
>ladder starts bending and flying around

Truly, Gilligan's Magnum Opus.
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>>158643673
You could do it easily in duels before your opponent figured it out if you practiced enough. It was only not abused because few people knew about it and of those few, most weren't enough assholes to do it.
Obobobo has a video where he unironically spams it on a mlgs
>>
Does anyone still play DS2 scholar on PC?
>>
>>158643865
no
thank you soul memory
>>
>>158643683

Something similar happens here: https://youtu.be/tZpVyXc0t2s?t=7m20s

He takes damage even though he's blocking but doesn't get staggered. Maybe it's just lag.
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is using ashen flasks allowed during duels
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>>158643991
Yes
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>>158643585
>No, but I do like to joke around.
nice darksword anon
>>
>>158643865
I might start a playthrough after finishing AoA.

We really should play it again. Have regular FCs and such.
>>
>>158643938
No shit anon. Wish WoB was whites for those who like it.
Moundmaker master race
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>>158643585

nice dark sword anon
>>
>>158643938
>no way to be a gold
>no way to be a white
>>
Valorheart looks like so much fun, is it any good?
>>
>>158643938
>Tfw Blue Sentinels are just knock-offs of the Blades of the Darkmoon.
>Tfw they could've done so much more with them.

>>158643991
Not really.
It's basically reloading for your spells.

>>158644085
You do get to be a gold phantom technically.
They just ruined it with the red aura.
>>
seriously if anyone has spare soulshit they could drop me and save me from this boring golden fatty grind i'd appreciate it

I'll be using pass dsg at grand archives
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>>158644159
Get off it dude it don't take that fuckin long
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>>158639479
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>>158644159
Make sure to equip mimic hat, shield of want and silver serpent ring
About 70k per run (On NG) is pretty good
>>
>"Finally, frost spells. Maybe I can make a frost mage now!"
>they don't actually do damage but frost build up
How useless. I wish we got a spell version of that exploding frost cone, instead of it being a really crappy weapon art.
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I just noticed that Friede's model has no toenails.

But Ariamis has.
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What shield is Gael using ? I want to a Gael cosplay.
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>>158639479
2daggers are semi-fun
>>
>>158643938
>not going covenant-less to appear human
>>
Starting new toon with DLC gear, some anon willing to hold/drop some itens for me? On PC.
>>
>>158644136
technically darkmoons are knockoff sentinels
>>
>>158644373
sunless shield
also used by godrick
>>
>>158644385
But I do
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>>158644396
>helping someone who says toon
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>>158644326

white dragon breath
>>
>doing a challenge run
>invaded by someone
>"whatever, I'll see how it goes"
>obvious smurf just looking to fight weaker players

Do they softban in DS3 for alt+f4s? Either way I ain't putting up with that shit.
>>
>>158644385
>not going as red to show your dedication to Mommy Rosaria

Filthy and disgusting
>>
>>158644474
>smurf

Go back to the shithole you came from.
>>
>>158644450
I'm sorry anon, this truly is some horrid sin. Thank you for showing me the light.
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>>158644473
Yea, and I can pretend crystal spells and stuff are ice too. It still doesn't feel right.
>>
What weaopn should a pyromancer use for pvp
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>>158644280
I'm surprised how well the Worker's Clothes work with most headpieces.
I personally like mixing it with the Thief's Mask because of the fact it really gives off that "Slum-born Ruffian" look.

>>158644405
Either way, they could've done so much more with the two covenants. It hurts knowing that they basically do the same thing.
>>
>>158644569
Pyromancy
What a concept
>>
>>158639479

Not really a big fan of Greatswords but holy shit is it easy to farm the arena with this
>>
Doing a new character and haven't played the DLC yet. Should I finish normal NG first and then do it after the ending?
>>
>>158644569

>pyro
>pvp

anon, i have some bad news
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>>158643662

Making ladders you ejit
>>
MAH FLEYL
>>
>>158643897
maybe dead angling? but that doesn't explain the huge stamina consumption
>>
>>158644625
You might be a little over leveled, but it's your call. I did it at SL 40 and it was tough.
>>
What upgrade tier should my weapons be at if i want to invade at level 50? Is +6 okay?
>>
>>158644556
Sorry you're a bitch who can't fight on the same level as your opponent.
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>>158644569
Farron GS
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>>158644474
>I ain't putting up with that shit.
then don't go online, sissy. or don't use embers
>>158644653
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>>158644653
>>158644746

BRING ME THE FUCKING FLAYUUUUUHL NOW!
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>>158641304
Nigga I beat her on NG+4 on SL125
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>>158644746
GEV ME MAH FACKING FLEYL FRIEDE
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>>158644419
Thanks.
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>>158644663

I think somehow his game thought he was two handing the Dark Sword. The guardbreak WA is certainly enough to break a weapon block and when the blocks the Carthus it makes the weapon block sound.
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>>158644807
Ok
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Is the rose of ariandel supposed to stunlock everything?
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>>158644709
Your new is showing.

First no one uses the term "smurf" with Dark Souls. That's a ASSFAGGOT term and that's why you should leave and stay leave.
Second you can't invade people who are weaker than you. The invader always has either the same or lower level and upgrade level on weapons as you.
Third the invader has 30% less HP than you and only half the number of estus.
Fourth you can summon people forever with no penalties no matter how many of them are killed.
Fifth if you are in the way of babies, you can a blue hunting down the red.

Now explain to how exactly is the host "weaker player".
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>>158644627

You've obviously never fought a skilled pyromancer.
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I like how 2v2 Brawl is literally just duel with a long timer so you can get double gold without ever doing teams or FFAs.
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>go into brawl
>two people out of six duking it out with ridiculous hacks all around and killing everyone else without pause

So did they finally stop caring about the whole banning thing, or have they just gotten lazy again and made it like Dark Souls II to where you'll never be caught so long as you don't spawn in unintended shit or mess up your characters stats/soul count? I miss being able to have some fun with custom movesets and having little cosplay invasions of sorts on Dark Souls II
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>>158644926
Wat
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>>158644938
They never started caring.
Moveswap doesn't work online
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>>158644904
Watch out. He might say toon
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>>158643194
Perfect little toes.
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>>158645010

REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>158645008
I meant 2-player Brawl, I was only pretending to be retarded.
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>>158644812
Flail, my dear flail.
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I really wish sorcerers weren't forced to wear the cuck crown (not to mention 3 rings and an offhand candlestick) in order to do damage.

Would it really break the game to remove this garbage and give sorcerers some real options when it comes to equipment?
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>>158645123
stop minmaxing for like 10% bonus dmage?
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muh flayul
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>>158644938
#justpcuckthings
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>>158645009

Fuck, are you serious? Can you at least mess around with the weapons/spells and make them do different projectiles or have different sorts of damage? I kind of enjoyed doing that, as well as having some spells on the off-hand without any/much stats so I could use them willy-nilly. Or is that not legal either?

Sorry to bother, but I just generally don't know the guidelines, and after being hooked up with these people after barely ever seeing any, I'm just curious.
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>>158645096

I give you my blood and you whip and FLAYUL.
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Do people born in the painting even need to have parents? Wouldn't they just be painted into existence?
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>>158645161
Well sorcery does pathetic damage without those things. Excep[t for things like CSS that never hit a competent player.

I just want to wear a cool sorc hat.
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>>158644910
I just need to play like Scott
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>>158645180

>"Muh flail" or "MUH FLAIL, FRIEDE" indicates Ariandel's confusion and lack of understanding
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>>158645261
"painted world" is just a fancy way to word a pocket dimension
no beings inside it are painted into existence, they find the painting and make a home out of it
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Gehrman cosplay invader in the painted world of Ariandel. Corvian scythe and warden twinblades. Not even close to the same moveset of the burial blade but it looks quite good. So i decided to make one myself, any weapons that look and work mostly the same as burial blade?
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>>158645280
Stop using shit spells nigger
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So why is it that swinging around a giant scythe makes YOU bleed?
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>>158645280
magic requires no skill except in the early game and should be viable for pvp at all
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>>158644910
Dude it doesn't matter.

A skilled pyromancer will lose to a skilled quality player 90% due to mechanics.

Even the best pyromancer in the world will have a hard time against a decent quality player.
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>>158645202
You can swap projectiles but it's pretty limited
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>>158645342
Well you'd be surprised how many duels I've won thanks to it to be honest. It's really good if you know your opponent is going to go for a running attack for example.

>>158645346
Okay. Thanks for your input.
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>>158644015
>>158644064
I do not visit this general often, but this sounds sarcastic. Is using the darksword a meme?
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>>158645343
It's such an edgy weapon, you end up cutting yourself as well as your opponent.

But in all seriousness, I honestly don't know.
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How the fuck did we go from ds2's amazing covenants to the shit that is ds3?
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>>158645343
Uncomfortable handle
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>>158645370
That's in a 1v1 context where at equal skill level the winner is the guy who panders the most to meta shittery. However in invasions, arena brawls and 2v2/3v3, casters are absolutely viable, pyromancers even more since they're the most versatile casters.
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>Miracles
>a school of magic that is now more effective when trading hits
>has the worst poise dmg out of the 3
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>>158645457
Yeah, pretty much. How I see it, it emits a mystic aura that tears flesh. The aura is so strong it affects the user (or the handle, depending on how it works).
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>>158645343

Look up Lifehunt.
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>>158645346
You sound like a salty kid that got oneshot by CSS at the arena, 1v1 magic actually requires a lot of skill if you're matched against a competent player.
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>>158645518
>they're the most versatile casters.
How so? All their spells are direct damage spells 100% of which can be mitigated by pressing O.

I mean I guess their viable if nobody is targetting them and they're just standing on a pillar spamming CBV into the fray.
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>>158645452
it's the mark of the shitter. it does too much damage for its speed, but the only thing it can do is 1hr1. everything else in its roster is garbo. therefore it's connected with a very specific type of shitter that only spams r1
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>>158645668
Don't feed. He's obviously salty about losing to a mage.

The problem with sorcery IMO is that it's not very fun to play against. I have a blast on my sorcerer character but I hate fighting them on my quality character.

How do we fix this?
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>>158645679
You may do a lot of damage sitting on a pillar, but arena wins are gotten with last hits, not successful hits. I think melee is still a lot better.
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>>158645464

>amazing covenants
>Gravelord covenant got reduced to a fucking shit-show against the "invader" on literally every single account, especially in regards to where the Vanguard is located at
>Red's and Blue's don't have whole orbs; arenas need items that you get from using orbs successfully
>Pilgrim of Dark only interesting inclusion but doesn't hit home because of lack of variety/explanation in terms of what you can do (most players don't know you can invade in the Remnants of the Abyss)
>fuck invaders covenant, because them not having any sort of healing item as well as being starved for resources in this matter is good, right?
>everyone's at Belfry, because the rewards for that is far more beneficial and can be utilized by the players. Many players join the Belfry and then forget about it because they just want to get through the area/get some chunks without as big of a hassle as if they just kept to their covenant. No consequences for this either
>Blues are nonexistent even fucking still
>implying that the covenant system was ever good
>implying that the covenant system ever reached a height other than mediocre - at best

All of them were garbage, Anon.

Every single one.
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>>158645746
Give them faster spell casting animations so you don't have to chase them around and wait till they get into a position where they can cast their spell without being punished by a running r1.
Kinda like Bloodborne, I guess.
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>>158645679
Black serpent as a spacing tool
Black flame to punish rushdown
GCFO to punish predictable movement
CBV to punish chugging
Fire surge to finish off and chip damage

Compared to miracles who solely rely on poise trading because they all have horrendous tracking or sorcery which can be totally nullified by strafing or bumrushing and staying on their asses.
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>>158645795
I don't agree with your opinion
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>>158645795
Belfry was actually perfect. It was something that actually incentives PvE players to PvP for a bit each playthrough, ensuring consistent populations.

Rat covenant was amazing on day 1 and then shit forever after that.

Pilgrims of Dark was flavor for optional PvE endgame and did its job as that.

Everything else was shit though, especially not having full orbs, that was ridiculous.
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>>158644904
You're the retard.

>First no one uses the term "smurf" with Dark Souls. That's a ASSFAGGOT term and that's why you should leave and stay leave.
I have seen people use the term "smurf" countless times with Souls. Been playing this series since Demon's Souls, faggot. Twink, smurf, whatever you want to call it, faggot.
>Second you can't invade people who are weaker than you. The invader always has either the same or lower level and upgrade level on weapons as you.
This page begs to differ. You can invade people who have no upgrades with +2 weapons. http://darksouls3.wiki.fextralife.com/Summon+Range+Calculator Also, he had dumped most of his stats into VGR, while I had very low VGR. Dumping stats into VGR and using a strong non-scaling early-game weapon is highly viable when smurfing.
>Third the invader has 30% less HP than you and only half the number of estus.
Doesn't matter when the damage difference is so large.
>Fourth you can summon people forever with no penalties no matter how many of them are killed.
First off, I don't normally summon phantoms to help unless the other player is being a total faggot. "Twinking"(sounds so fucking retarded, tell me it doesn't) cunts invading, or other invaders hiding behind enemies like giant crabs in the swamp. I'll summon for that shit. I don't summon for bosses either.
>Fifth if you are in the way of babies, you can a blue hunting down the red.
Solely depends on if the phantom gets summoned or not. Pure chance.
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>>158645870

At least she didn't turn into an aids patient with a shit worm hanging from her ass.
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>>158645941
>Rat covenant was amazing on day 1 and then shit forever after that.
Mound Makers basically.
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Guys I fucked up and I am level 200 now.What is the max AR I can pump without buffs?Any interesting builds or things to check out?I was trying to get dragon form to work too.
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>>158645941
>Pilgrims of Dark was flavor for optional PvE endgame and did its job as that.
>You did it once and never did it ever again
Yeah, amazing
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>>158646028
It's a fucking PvE questline. They don't go on forever.
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>>158645986
if she keeps going like that, she's going to have something hanging from her ass
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>>158646053
That questline took like 15 minutes
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>>158643636
I kek'd
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Having to unlock every ash for the shrine maiden again in subsequent playthroughs was a stupid idea.
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>>158646078
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>>158646094
Sure, anon. I'm sure on your first run you found all the doors, killed all the NPCs, and beat Darklurker in 15 minutes.
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>>158645795
>implying that the covenant system was ever good
This desu, DaS1 covenants were pretty shit as well
>non-functioning piece of shit: blue edition
>non-functioning piece of shit: black edition
>not one
>not two
>but THREE PvE covenants one of which is absolutely useless, even more so than WoB
>obsolete dueling covenant
>a
>fucking
>shortcut
>>158645941
Both Bellfag and Ratfag areas should've been obligatory to pass for every playthrough, like Farron Keep/Anal Rodeo in 3.
They really should've made the new Ratfag covenant take place in Carthus catacombs, cause it already has traps and using covenant currency to buy more skellies and pursuer urns would've been fucking fantastic.
>>158645997
Moundmakers are still objectively superior and more fun that Rosaria Fingers/ordinary darkwraithing.
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>>158646117
same for coals
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Where the fuck is Velka I mean wtf
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>>158646010
highest AR weapon is dragonslayer greataxe and at that level you should definitely be able to get the most out of it
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>>158645984
Guess what? Literally anyone can get a raw ASS+3/Dark Hand and match the damage of twink invaders as soon as they start the game.
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>>158645325
>>158645984
>"Twinking"(sounds so fucking retarded, tell me it doesn't

You're a newfag cancer, you don't need to like the term but twinking has been around as a name for years.
Fextra took forever to get correct information then stole it, don't link to those faggots
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>tfw no stupid prestige hat for getting gold
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>>158646028
>and never did it ever again
>what are ascetics
Go get some ascetics, then abuse the infinite CREO aldia's keep spit, then get some more ascetics, invade in the abyss while farming ascetics, invade in aldia's keep while farming CREO, it was not the worst experience, and actually pretty comfy.
Shame it took them more than a year to """fix""" the whole invasion system.
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so, if you don;t get covenant rewards for duels
what do you get?
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I legitimately hate DaS2, but auras were cooler than this medal shit.
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>>158646314
FUN
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>>158646245
What did i do to anger you?
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>>158646314
a gold star if you're good at it

I swear these millennials who need progression systems to enjoy things
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Is the onyx blade any gud? How about the MLGS

Have a mage character i don't quite know which way to swing
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Should i go +10 even though i'm only level 49?
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>>158646186
The thing 1's covenants had that no other ones had was locking spells and festures behind them. Except for locking out invasions behind one it's great that you need to commit to being a darkmoon to have a strong spell and you can't swap them on a whim like 2/3
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>>158646323
Only the 1st tier aura that gave you a thin shroud of smoke was good, the tier 2 neon one was disgusting.
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>>158646354
I got a gold star after 1.5hrs, seems pretty weak desu.

I'm playing for >>158646337
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>>158645941

Belfry did allow PvE players to get included in PvP, but the fact of the matter was that if you didn't want to get invaded by Bellfags then you just joined the covenant and then immediately ganked anybody you happened to invade right as that happened. You could say that this allows players to also get into the PvP, but the purpose behind the area is to strictly defend something, and it goes against the principles of a "covenant" to just allow some guy to join up and then immediately leave right after. This is a problem as a whole with the entire covenant system, but for this case, it's just ridiculous because the rewards far outweigh that of any other covenant reward in general.

I get what you're trying to say, and don't think that I disagree with it, but I still think it could of been handled better, especially in giving players an introduction to PvP, as well as not overshadowing every single other "invasion-based" covenant by giving you shit that you could use more of instead of shit that's strictly specific to that general group.

I think as though the Rat Covenant was a beautiful idea on paper, but horrible in execution from the get-go. It should of followed the standard of a deathrun, where the player is running along a course that can kill them and the host is in the shadows doing the shit to destroy them. As it was, it was just very clunky, and most often than not, most players just got a group of enemies and then ganked you with them to take advantage of the two hit principle.

Pilgrim of the Dark could of done with more, but that isn't too much to disregard it. As it is - and without the shitty homages of NPC's in them - it's probably one of my favorite areas. The climate is just perfect and the ambiance is beautiful. I think they really should of done a whole lot more with it, and with the invasion thing, it shows that promise, but then again the game's just like that to begin with.
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>>158646245
>newfag cancer

I've been playing Souls for years, and same for discussions on here. I just don't post here because this general is normally a fucking shitfest.

>w-w-WAH CALL IT BY IT'S PROPER NAME, REEEEEE
Literally you. Max autism, especially since posting a link makes you sperg out.

>>158646234
I already said I'm doing a challenge run.
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So what do you think about the Crow Quills /dsg/? Any gimmicks? Moveset? Damage?
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>>158646404
It's because the covenant NPC is at the start instead of after Gargoyles.
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>>158646212
Meh it still seems pretty lazy.I wanted to see if two princes sword or dancer's would work with a 40-40-40-40 but it seems they still are shit.Dancer's at least..
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>>158639479
Had a go at fashion souls, r8 or h8
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>>158646412
If you're doing a challenge run then stop fucking bitching about getting invaded.

Retard.
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>>158646354
Second red should've been a purple.
>>158646404
>if you didn't want to get invaded by Bellfags then you just joined the covenant
You still get invaded by bellfags even if you'er a bellfag yourself.
The belfry gnomes don't trust the undead.
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>>158646412
Then play offline if you don't want to deal with invaders and can't handle the heat in your challenge run, you donut.
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>>158646417
p. shit range and you will get cucked out of your mind against HA poiserinos
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>>158646510
I'm not bitching about being invaded, retard. I was bitching about smurfs- oh, excuse me, twinks.

Get a fucking clue, dense fuck.
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>>158646516

Really? I never got invaded by one whilst I was joined in the covenant, so I just assumed that was the case.

Shit, I'm sorry. Thanks for correcting me, Anon.

>>158646474
Basically, yeah.
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>>158646536
what if my favorites are what kills people most efficiently
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>>158646506
Let me see if I can get this. From top to bottom:

>friede's hood
>leonhard's armor
>assassin gloves
>sorcerer boots

?
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>>158646575
Then don't be embered or play offline.
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So, is there unused content/models in the DLC files (apart from the "birch woman" dialogue)?
Also I suppose we don't know shit about DLC2 yet?
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>>158645984
you don't even know what the terms you're using mean. "smurf" is an experienced player who makes a new account to smash newbies. a "twink" is a player who has an advantage over the host with better upgrades. since this isn't really an option in ds3, you can only "twink" by having lots of estus and certain weapons with high base damage
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>>158646628
It's most likely going to be abyss-themed.
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>>158646506

That looks pretty fucking fly, Anon.
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>>158646506
The wind in the DLC is so nice for /fa/
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>>158646664
And DLC1 was most likely going to be set in Londor right
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>>158646412
I don't think there's anything wrong with any kind of invasion, as long as the invader hasn't cheated.
Being invaded by min-maxed (whatever SL range) dudes has been a thing in the Souls games from the beginning. Granted, I didn't play much DeS, just one playthrough, but it was certainly the case in DaS 1 and ever since.

Not sure why you're acting all worked up about it.
DaS 3 even introduced some bullshit about weapon upgrades going into seperate invasion ranges, from what I remember, to account for whiners like you.
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Are regular scythes still bad? Did they only give the WA hyper armor in the recent patch?
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>>158646590
fuck off scott
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>>158646896
Some people really like winning.
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>>158646525
>>158646621
Again, see >>158646575

I don't really mind being invaded at all during my challenge run. I've already killed multiple invaders during it. Twinks are uncommon enough, I was simply just saying that I think they're fucking retarded before someone got triggered.

>>158646662
Smurfing can easily be used in Dark Souls, and I've seen it be used for Souls before.
>"smurf" is an experienced player who makes a new account to smash newbies.
Change the word "account" to "character".
Twinking is easily possible in DS3, I've already said how.
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How do I into a faith build?
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>>158646928
So you're just crying to the internet? Wahhh I don't like how people are killing me?

Grow up.
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>>158646915

I bet you think it's winning when an adult fucks up a 5yo too
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>estus chugging shitters
>le running katana seven billion bleed damage
>le epic gank squad magic spam xd u salty ?

UNIQUE PVP EXPERIENCE INDEED
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>>158646984
By not doing a faith build
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>>158646984
go quality and then 60 fth at level 60
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>>158646993
Can you not write like a normal person?
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>>158639407
Literally anyone or thing in the game could have given us good fashion you fuckwad, not like they need a boss to introduce a set
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>>158646386
>The thing 1's covenants had that no other ones had was locking spells and festures behind them
2 and 3 still do this. But you're right about not having to commit to the covenant unlike 1.
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>>158646989
Some people don't have any scruples, moreso in games.
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>>158646928
not only new players make new characters. since you're obviously retarded and need it spelled out for you, "smurf" is a matter of experience, "twink" is a matter of equipment
>>158646984
play a strength build and switch to fai on ng+
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>>158646989
Well, it's meta.
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why do bleed waepons bleed me when I dont take damage
is this why they became meta?
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>Get another char through the DLC
>Decide to see how the arena is going
>First match is Havel Greatshield/Estoc shitter

I fucking destroyed him, but if this is the kind of shit I'm going to see in the arena now I guess I won't bother getting gold in duel on this char
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>>158647101
You only notice it now, even after DS1 did it years earlier?
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>>158646984
You use it is a Support/Punishing tool alongside a standard melee weapon. Faith since 1 has always been intended as a supplementary tool, not something to use exclusively.
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>>158647101
heh u rike?
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>>158646506
>>158646616
>>158646693
>>158646748
>insert cute animu face
Fucking sweet, thought it was good but wasn't sure if it was just me. The set is Sorcerer's hood, Leonhard's armor, firekeepers (hands?) and sorcerers shoes.

And yeah, the wind is fucking baller for this cape.
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>>158647101
status effect buildup only checks if connected, even if you are in iframes. you think this is bullshit op, but in fact it's a weakness. if the last hit that triggers the bleed is dealt during iframes, the effect will trigger, you'll splash with blood and the buildup will go away, but you'll get no damage
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>playing the dlc with my level 30 character who is pretty much all faith and attunement
>lightning spear and raw ass
>getting absolutely destroyed
>4 hours in and haven't found a boss yet

lmaoing@u nerds who only got 2 hours of it this

who /shitter/ here?
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>>158646797
Twinking was a big reason for why From Soft made soul memory in DS2. That's how big of an issue they saw it. And it's still very much possible in DS3, and I was just saying I think it's retarded. I also asked if alt+f4ing gets you softbanned but that was completely ignored because people would rather get autistic than answer a question.

>>158646986
Are you saying most of this general isn't shitposting and whining? Seems like you're the new one.

>>158647059
I forgot you had a dictionary ready for this shit, dude, sorry. I mean surely you aren't pulling the "it means this because I say it does" shit, right? Twink is a matter of equipment, yes, but smurfing has always only meant shitting on new players. By making a new account, yes, or new character. It's not only held down to "experience".
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Why did i expect a souls thread to be anything other than horrible
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>>158647285
I don't think you're so much a shitter as you are a retard.

Have you tried going through the DLC with a character who is SL 50+ and doesn't have a silly build?
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>>158647207
I hate it when I invade in these parts, if the bridge is down you have to go around the whole map.
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>>158647285
>>158647376
faith is good just like sorceries and pyromancies stop complaining when you have a +3 catalyst or flame or talismen
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>>158647365
nice tu quoque dude
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>• Fixed a bug where Patches and Greirat would never return if sent to steal after defeating all bosses.

w-wait hold up
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>Outskill dude in the arena
>He unzips Farron Sabre
>Annoy him with fire surge and r1 at the right moments, as it proved very effective agains curved cancer
>Gets so flustered that he turns on that script that lets you survive with 1 hp (or had it on all the time)
This is pathetic. Also, why is it draw if he had way less HP left than me?
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>>158644569
Thrall axe, onyx blade
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does lighter weight give more iframes during rolls?
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>>158647520
No.
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>>158647491

What's the problem familie.
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>>158647498
>why is it draw if he had way less HP left than me?

Because otherwise people would just throw a dagger at the start of the match and spend the next 3 minutes running away.
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>walked into dlc with bigger blacker sword +5 at sl120

This was a mistake, everything gets FUGS'd too easily

Only hard part so far was lmao2crow before Vilhelm but that's because the plunge didn't kill the guy by the altar like I thought it would

Helped a guy all the way through the woods to the door to Dunnel though, made a fucking killing in souls, those guys give a shitton of dosh.
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>>158647491
Patches can travel to Lothric to look for Greirat but he will only return with a divine blessing or something.
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>>158647520

Sub-30% gives 2 more iframes I think?
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Did sorceries ever get a buff? Is playing one from SL1 still retarded and pointless?
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>>158647498
When I deal with cheaters like that I usually gesture a lot.
They're usually really self-centered persons, so usually I have enough time to launch CE and whip out scripts of my own while my character is begging for mercy or whatnot.
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>>158647620
They didn't do that in 2 either and there it went by who had more hp left.
If that became meta then everyone would at least get the basic heal spell.
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>put Faraam set in the game
>helmet shows massive parts of neck

why bother From?
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>>158647679
Your post makes no sense but if you're asking whether or not sorcery is viable then the answer is yes.

It's not easy to do well with but it's possible.
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>>158647705
>They didn't do that in 2 either and there it went by who had more hp left.
You're wrong, people even fucked with life rings to ensure their win. But they usually did that out of spite.
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>>158647691
I do that but I usually just to boot the other guy out of my game.
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>>158647705

DaS2 arena devolved to a cancerous ringswap meta where you had Northern Ritual Band ready for a quick swap to win.
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>>158647450
Thanks fuckface.
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R8 pls no H8
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>>158647819
Holy fucking kek
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>>158647679
When are you asking from? A few shitty spells are slightly less shitty now, such as Great Farron Dart doing just barely enough damage to be worth spamming at people and still fast enough to be essentially unpunishable. sorcerers in RSS duels are more about using GSoJ or MLGS and using spells to keep pressure on your opponent than killing them with spells, though. You'll only ever kill people with CSS if you're invading.
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>>158647776
I wasn't asking if it was viable, I was asking if they fixed the problems it had on launch:

>Required sorcery gear is at the very end of the game
>Sorcery is very soul level heavy, making it a dick to level early on if you want to actually do any kind of damage
>No decent sorceries til the end of the game

Now that I've held your hand like a small child do you understand?
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>>158647691
>cheaters
>CE and whip out scripts of my own

I'm starting to think that the PCuck meme is real.

How many of you use CE? Be honest. I've never touched it myself.
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do the earth seeker 2 handed R2's combo?
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somebody please explain why I can't HA through a follower sabre with my quakestone hammer
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Looking for great sword for a faith characters, any ideas? (DS3)
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>>158647896
>did they move around where you get sorceries since release?????
are you retarded?
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>>158647874
That helm looks like you got your head stuck in a pickle jar
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>>158647896
In that case, no they haven't buffed it.

Most of the good stuff is towards the end of the game and you need like 60 INT, 3 rings, the crown and the candlestick to do respectable damage.
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>>158647896
Your question wasn't clear, manchild.

Sorcery was never not viable at launch, assuming you kept a melee weapon as backup. Even then, you could still go through the game with pure magic if you didn't spend 20+ minutes per area dicking about and wasting your spells on things you don't need to fight.
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>>158647883
Have some more.
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>>158647898
anon there's more to using CE than just plain out cheating, you can also use it to check invader/host/summon stats etc to see if they are cheating themselves so you can just crystal out
You can also use it to reset rebirths so you can reroll your stats without having to rush through yet another NGf you aren't one of those cheaters that actually toggle godmode and shit because they are genuinely bad at the game
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>>158647937

Because you need 41 poise maybe? I dunno
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>>158647898
I use it to give myself items so I don't have to spend hours farming when I've already sunk hundreds of hours doing the same shit already. No different from muling on console, really.
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>>158648012
Do you have more?
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>>158647898
I used in in DaS1 to make pvp builds and unlock teleportation before getting the Lordvessel.

I'd never use an actual cheat, especially not in multiplayer
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>>158648012
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>>158648072
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>>158644571
Dark moon should have been invasion based once again tracking down sinners and invaders in their own world
Leave defending pussies for those blue sentinals
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>>158648027
Tried that as well with one of my friends, 42.3 poise and I still couldn't HA through it unless wolf ring is bugged and doesn't give you any poise whilst still showing it on your stat screen
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>>158647937
Great hammers have 27 poise health for R1s, curved swords deal 14 poise damage for R1s. You should be able to go through two hits even with minimal poise.

You're either being hit during non-poise frames (great hammers actually take the longest to start poise), or you're being hit three times before your attack lands (great hammers are slow enough for this to be possible).
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>washing pole

why cant this weapon just be removed
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>>158647954

judgement or twin prince
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>>158648013
>there's more to using the CHEAT engine than CHEATING

Really nigger?

>you can also use it to check invader/host/summon stats etc to see if they are cheating themselves

Is it really this bad? Up until now I've only encountered a handful of people who were obviously cheating. Is everyone just using the CE except me? This almost makes me wish I was playing on PS4.

>You can also use it to reset rebirths so you can reroll your stats without having to rush through yet another NG

That's also cheating. There's a reason why they decided to limit the number of respecs you get.

But you can accomplish this by simply backing up your save before you respec.
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>>158648130
Goddamn anon, you're killing me.
If you've got more, would you mind just dumping?
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>>158648130
That must have looked amazing from the host's end
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>>158648130
>>158648241
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>>158648241

Not him but I have a funny one.
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What's the summoning level range?

Is 110 the best to get both level 100s and 120?
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>>158648225
Why? It's not even top tier. There are plenty of weapons that are more cancerous than the WP.
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Is there a way to make dragon form viable?
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>>158648309
where do you find these people
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>>158648203
if great hammers have the longest timer for HA, then that's probably it because I haven't had any similar issues using other greatweapons, and this is the first time I've given greathammers a real shot. Thanks, anon
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>>158648423
It's plenty viable, just use fast weapons. You're obviously gimped but you can still beat players if you're good. The roar is also an effective guard break if they're turtling.
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>>158648462
Nice work by the host there.
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>>158648498

The host is from /dsg/. He was letting invaders kill him for some reason, can't remember why.
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>>158648306
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>if only I had bread
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>>158648423
Speed up twinkly stones, add a new dragon stone or weapon that gives you claw attacks.

>inb4 fromsoft gives them poise instead

>>158648534
Yeah, great hammers are more for beating out other great weapons. Their HA happens just soon enough to catch other great weapons for a trade and their strike damage punches through heavy armor easily, but it's far too slow to do the same against small weapons and the strike-resistant light armor normally worn by them.
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So it turns out the Bully Axe is hot steaming garbage since it doesn't stunlock or am I missing something?
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>>158648407
>not even top tier

I take it you've only played against retards using it then. Try using it and just play passive with the running attacks, it's silly.
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>>158648608

baked

>>158648460
>>158648460
>>158648460
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>>158648717
What the fuck
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>>158647207
That's DaS 1 Anor Londo tier of trolling.
Wonderful.
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>>158646404
Remember when seeing a warrior of sunlight sign was basically a guarantee you'd get a dedicated boss fighting mother fucker show up instead of a meme lord shithead
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>Fighting crow quill nerd in the arena
>This guy actually knows what he's doing
>Pull out a 100% phys block shield and glue myself to his asshole
>He immediately starts panic rolling at the sight of my large, commanding shield
>My dick doubles in size as I roll catch him to death

NO CROWS ALLOWED IN MY ARENA
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>>158646986
Not him but that's what dsg constantly fucking does about gank squads when they invade
Is it different when your trying to be the bully though is it? Somehow it makes you the victim trying to invade others?
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>>158648856
Nope
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>>158649114
Used to be 50 fth -5 for each boss killed as a phantom for minimum join requirement wasn't it?
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>>158649341
Yes, but that didn't create any more dedicated boss fighting players than in the other games.
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>>158647962
It's not like they couldn't have added or moved things around especially with the DLC. Did you not take your medicine today? Why are you being such a fucking baby?
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>>158649341
Originally, yes. It was reduced to 25 -5/boss shortly after, though.
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>>158647996
I never asked about viability.

>Manchild

That's you for throwing a fucking tantrum over a question instead of just ignoring it and moving on with your day, you fucking sperg.

>>158647984
Thanks for the legit answer, glad this place isn't complete shit yet.
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>>158649531
Except it certainly would have, and did, by simple deducation of having a smaller group that was entirely dedicated to boss killing, rather than a group anyone was able to join
Hense why they used to be much much rarer. then the patch came out fucking it, and then from then on in they haven't had to do a single boss as a phantom or dedicate a build at all to join
But when it was phresh, that gold sign meant something more than the white ones that were scattered round, for a small while at least
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>>158649706
>That's you for throwing a fucking tantrum over a question
Trust a manchild to think everyone who disagrees with them is the same person.
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>>158649716
It was just as rare. Most of them were shitters from my experience.
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>>158649831
You sure you're thinking pre patch? I don't doubt there were shitters, there's always shitters, but i'm still of the mindset that a golden sign in early dark souls 1 meant more than at any other point in any game, now you see people running through levels with multiple all the time
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>>158650068
Patch 1.04 came so fucking fast there weren't enough time to be any difference really.


I agree with it being a warrior of sunlight should have a bigger meaning in dark souls 3 though. It should be at least harder to get, not later, just harder.
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For those of you who have made a character like this, what level range would you say was the most fun and effective for playing as a healslut? got a tl;dr of what your build mainly consisted of? It looks like a fun way to play once in awhile
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>>158650326
Yeah that's true, I agree completely, most of my memories of 1 come from the early game after I got it on release and raped it, before the lower requirements and what not came about
And yeah, warriors of sunlight should be harder to get into, but at the same time earlier, just make it so they prove themselves as boss fighters again a bit at least, cause at the moment a warrior of sunlight means absolutely nothing about the summon
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>>158648717
out-fucking-skilled
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>>158632347
Yeah no. I found the lake my first playthrough. No guide, I just know how to explore. As for no good pyromancy, what is great combustion?
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>>158634553
I hide from invaders all the time. Usually I do it to make THEM waste their time. I've gotten some nasty fan mail in response too. If you're invading, you're playing MY game MY way. Enjoy me wasting your time while you're wasting mine.
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