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Why is Yhorm easier than the first boss?

yum bread
>if only it had linked to the previous thread

>>158648710
same reason why gwyn was easy

>>158648770
on my first playthrough i beat gwyn with just demon's spear 2HR2 through a pillar

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No more webms from me. Just this filename.

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Post webms.

>>158648460
>no previous thread

>>158632080

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xth for edge

>>158648460
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TBtzHJyK9dk

Is there anything perseverance can't poise you through?

What do you do when someone chugs an estus during a duel? Black Crystal out?

>>158648770
Gwyn wasn't that easy if you compare him to Yhorm. Yhorm was a joke and would have been way cooler if you didn't get the Storm Ruler for it, or if at the very least you had to use the regular moveset rather than cheese him to death with the WA

>>158648846
Artorias really let himself go, huh?

>A flail used by the bulbous Father of the Painted World to shred his own skin, producing blood to appease the flame. Both a weapon and a miracle catalyst.
>Ariandel, being the restorer of the Painted World, knew that it was painted with blood, and only blood could protect the secret.

So this pretty much confirms Ariandel is Ariamis, right?

>>158648935
Start chugging myself?

What the fuck are these ads on 4chan?
Man fuck this I'm goin to reddit

>>158648935
Try beat them without healing

Why aren't you in the arena though if you want proper 1v1s

>>158648935
Try and beat him without healing, failing that I try and win the war of attrition in terms of heals. Shitting on some chugger without taking a sippy is one of the greatest feels.

>>158649012
No.

>>158648935
The second they disengage at low health at any point they get a knife in the face. It's usually not a problem

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posting new for fashion r8

>>158649029
dont have the dlc

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>>158648870

>>158649012
>Ariandel, being the restorer of the Painted World
Can you read? Restorer is someone who touches up a painting made by someone else.

>>158649028
who doesn't use adblock in current year

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>>158648870
I love arena, it's so wacky

>>158648935
usually it happens in /dsg/ duels and then the guy uses prostrate

I just laugh and hit them when they're laying there

>>158649087
that FP bar

Does anyone have working pointers for character class?
I can finally try Pyromancer but I can't change class

>>158648896

first time she did that to me I was like "nothing personell, kid"

>>158649158
and hp bar

what level even is that

>>158649118
I was on my phone, they're gone now

For whatever reason adblock wont work on my phone

>>158648687
Do you seriously not know how to parry katana running R1s yet?

It's astounding that after all these years people are still dying to this shit and getting salty about it.

Katanas, including the WP, are fine. They're decent weapons but definitely not top tier. Git gud.

>>158649059
>>158649116
Let me rephrase that, I'm saying that the Painted world of Ariandel is he Painted world of Ariamis.

>>158649158
it's a testing char. haven't tried the arena with it, maybe I should.

>>158649158

seriously this guy have 99 INT or what

>>158649284
It's obviously not.

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I really liked going full caster in DaS2.

How is it in DaS3? I haven't tried magic apart from support miracles.

>>158649209
I got a hp bar close to that i put about 70 points into vigor

>>158649338
Sorceror is quite hard compared to other games, but that may be because it was my first playthrough and I didn't know where the good spells were.

Apparently pyro still works ok, haven't done a playthrough of that yet.

New covenant

Invade silently without any any notification
Fog gates not blocked

>>158649241
Regular katanas aren't top tier, WP is, and if you think parries are a reliable counter in this game you're delusional. Decent players know how to play around parries, and with latency you can't always rely on them.

'just parry it' is such a meme. If you're decent at PvP, how often do you get parried? Not often, right? So what makes you think it's a reliable tactic against other decent players?

>>158649284
Yes, Painted World of Ariandel was painted over the Painted World of Ariamis. You can even find Priscilla's old boss room, the turn crank where the skelly wheels were serves the same purpose, etc.

>>158649241

People literally just pace around and randomly dash r1

It's not easy to predict when the person isn't being retarded. It's also hard to trade with unless you have enough poise and your weapon is long enough.

the recovery is also insane, they can hit you with the running r1 and still have enough time to roll away

DLC was short but good, bonus points for making the game less linear

>>158649338
Pyromancy is good enough to work in PvP if you know what you're doing and steamrolls the shit out of PvE once you loot Demon Ruins, sorcery and miracles take too long to get their good stuff, but once they do the game becomes a joke.

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>>158648498

SL50 pre-Sulyvahn Irithyll.


>>158648896

Anyone have a WebM of Maria's riposte?

>>158649338
Pryo and Sorc good


Sorcery is annoying as fuck because ds3 has FREE ROLLS and you can spam roll 24/7 and randomly shoot out a spell every now and then. Also if they do get close you can mash spellsword.

Pyromancy counters sorcery though since if you see some faggot rolling away to cast just chuck a chaos bed at him


Pyromancy is more reliable and less gay

>>158649435
>parries aren't reliable

Neither is spamming running R1s with a WP. Decent players know how to play around that too.

If you spam any attack you are suceptible to getting parried. That's exactly why the parry mechanic exists. To punish spammers and predictable play.

WP is not top tier. It's just a slightly slower uchi with a longer range. If you can beat other katanas you should have no problem beating the washing pole especially since the running R1 people bitch about is the same on every single katana.

>>158649505
I really wish it was longer though, and that the side-area was a bit less retarded. The placement of some of those archers really doesn't make sense, and the NPC in the boss fight looks silly. Also ice crabs.

>>158649338
It's pretty shit all already, fampai.
Sorceries take a ridiculous amount of investment just to work (60 int and like 35 attunement, plus decent stamina), need to use 3/4ths of their ring slots, their headpiece, and their offhand on specific gear just to do respectable damage, and all the good spells are super late in the game (second to last area).
Pyro is a decent build, but you sure as hell can't make a whole build out of it. You need to go quality or something with it.
You'd probably be more successful with a broken straight sword than a faith build in PvP and only slightly better off in PvE.

>>158649474
>they can hit you with the running r1 and still have enough time to roll away

Really? Are you using a Dragon's Tooth or what?

I mean I'll try it out again but the last time I PvPed with a WP on my quality build I wasn't overly impressed. It's just a katana that's a bit longer. It's still a katana though which means that every decent player knows the moveset by heart.

What if the next DLC adds a item that lets you turn a place into a fight club and people that die will spawn back in that room

>>158649802
We need new content, not new ways to PvP

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>Repeated unjust multiplayer disconnects have severed the connection to other worlds.

>Only a Way of White Circlet can restore the connection

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What's your verdict on the Crow Quills /dsg/?

>>158649676
Yeah but you don't have to just spam running R1s, you can just run at people to bait a parry attempt and kick>R1 or get a backstab. The WP running attack is significantly better than the other katanas because of the range, and parrying the very tip of it is pretty hard if they're not just doing it repeatedly.

I dunno, I agree with you aside from not thinking it's top tier. You don't need to spam it for it be effective, and just running around and playing reactive with it is super annoying and way less predictable. Though, I wonder now if it would be easy to just Greatsword R1 into it with HA. That might only work on retards.

2 questions

What does Blackflame feel like?
What do Elfriede's feet taste like?

>>158649853
The only reason people keep playing this game is for PvP. Unless they're doing some kind of challenge run on something...

>>158649802
how sweet must be to be this new and not know MiyazHacki's true form

>>158649853
yeah but it's just an item and the boss uses the item so when you die you fog in his fog gate while he watches you fight his minions which are also bosses when you defeat them all he steps down from his chair and fights you

>>158649865
Worst weapon of the DLC by far. I'm pretty sure a barehanded punch does more damage than the quills.

>>158649779
30 attunement, since ashen estus flasks only restore 200 FP and you already have more at that point. 35 attunement would need the ashen estus ring to refill, otherwise you'll just always have an empty chunk at the end that'll never be refilled with a flask.

Pyromancy does NOT require quality to work, since the Chaos and Dark infusions scale so well with Int/Fth. Just slap it on a Longsword and you're good to go. In fact, Dark infusion does damage on par with Refined since very few players bother to raise Faith beyond 15 (or 10 with Priestess Ring), meaning their base dark defense is minimal for their level and they take something near +30 more dark damage compared to characters with 40 or more Faith.

>>158649865
I think it's neat

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>>158649551
inb4 shit dmg
inb4 what is sweetspot

>>158649918

Ice cream
Ice cream

>>158649802
Here's one.

>new covenant
>when embered, you auto-summon unembered covenant members
>can't summon non-covenant members, auto-summons are hostile to everything and will fill up all five slots
>when unembered, get summoned to embered covenant members
>killing the host or enough other invaders returns you to your world as embered to continue the cycle

>>158649896
>I wonder now if it would be easy to just Greatsword R1 into it with HA. That might only work on retards.

If you're using anything stronger than a straightsword you can just trade with it. A WP has what, like 420 AR (blaze it) at 40/40?

That's the issue I have with it: the damage is shit.

>>158650040
I love retards that play like this

>Maybe I'll parry him this time!

It's a free backstab 90% of the time, and I always clap while they're on the ground

>>158650040
Man I love Partizan, such a lovely weapon.

Why does my door become fog and I can't leave my summon sign or invade and nothing is happening

>>158648917
jesus, how many shitters can you fight in 1 movie

>>158649338
don't listen to this idiot>>158649779, he either can't win without his quality crutch or hasn't played since launch.

pyro is great, especially now with the onyx blade, and faith is pretty strong in PvP too, you just have to know how to use it properly. don't start heavily investing in it until late game, though.

>>158649918
>What does Blackflame feel like?
Item description says it hits with weighty impact, and DaS1 descriptions listed black flames and abyss sorceries as being partially physical. They don't make heat or cast light, so they probably aren't hot, but being smacked by a black fire orb might cause bruising. Dark damage has no real-world comparison like fire or lightning, so it's impossible to say what touching one would feel like, but the Abyss is constantly referred to as corrosive and corruptive so touching it might not be a pleasant experience.

>What do Elfriede's feet taste like?
Probably like snow.

>>158649918
I'm not sure what they'd taste like but they're probably cold

>>158650226
>faith is pretty strong in PvP
Spot the shitter

>>158648875
my bad lad was in a rush

>>158648917
I'm not sure, maybe WA with elemental damage like the Demon greataxe?

>>158649918
>What do Elfriede's feet taste like?

dirt and rot, she's walking around barefoot in a rotting painting, what did you expect?

>>158650226
>and Mourne's hammer is pretty strong in PvP too

FTFY

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>>158649945

U wot m8? It has the same AR at Sharp 40 Dex as a 40/40 Refined Estoc and Irithyll Rapier.

>>158650308
it is. You being bad at PvP doesn't make it less true

>>158650332

>caring about Friede and not painting loli

>>158650490
>It has the same AR at Sharp 40 Dex as a 40/40 Refined Estoc and Irithyll Rapier.

That's not saying much though is it?

Piercing swords are shit now because not only was their speed nerfed but they do pathetic damage.

>>158650490
And has a completely useless WA while the other two don't

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oh god my sides


he got me to 1 hp and started tossing throwing knives so i went behind the pillar
he chased me around for a good 40 seconds before this happened

>>158649416
I'd think this is fine, as long as they draw this covenant invaders into worlds with phantoms more frequent, and lower the frequency of multiple phantoms for other invaders
Them stealthy boons gotta come at a price

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These are the real boss of the dlc

Am I the only one here who wants to sniff Friede's feet?

>>158650594
Estoc still does insane damage actually

>>158650614
It's not bad actually, you can use it to jump out of the way and hit somebody or just chip people who try to strafe at a distance. The backstep L1 is pretty great with a Leo Ring, it has hyperarmor and does thrust damage.

>>158650668
>decide to take it on, it's only 1 crab, surely i can take on just 1 with patience
>suddenly OH YEEEAH

fuck you Miyahacki that wasn't funny.
Im mad.

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>>158650594
oh god, i hope people will continue to believe this

How much difference does the wolf ring make now?

>>158650695
Probably not. I'm not a feet guy myself, I'd rather sniff her butthole

DUDE

BIG HAMMER GUY STAGGERS YOU AND YOUUR CHARACTER DOES A RETARD ANIMATION AND THE SPEARFUCK STABS YOU

YOU LE DIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIEEEEEEEEEEEEEED LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL

HAYD GAME GUISE

HAYD GAYME

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>>158650668

DUDE MAKE THEM BLUE AND GIVE THEM THRICE GORILLION TIMES THE HP
LOL

>>158650797
>BIG HAMMER GUY STAGGERS
or you could just dodge his slow ass attacks?

>>158650797
wow you're really upset maybe take a break and come back later when you've let off some steam anon

how to enable controller vibrate on invasion/summon?
How to play soudn in background

>>158650783
It can give you just enough poise to pass a breakpoint, but it can't substitute for an entire armor set anymore.

>>158650226
How exactly is faith strong in pvp, I mean dont get me wrong I love landing a lightning spear, my build is worse for it though when I could just flat out do more damage with weapons

>>158650549
I hope by fth you just mean dmb builds

Does anyone have those sprites of the undead match rankings?

>>158650549
Yeah man, all those Sunlight Spears and Lightning Stakes are just tearing up PvP
Get over yourself. It's terrible. They have exactly one useful spell, Lightning Stake, which almost requires them to take a hit just to use. ToD is useless if your opponent has a single piece of the Thorns set on. Literally nobody competent will ever get hit by Sunlight Spear.
They don't even have any good weapons. The best they can do is settle for something like a Lightning Dark Sword or go hybrid with Pyro to use their weapons.

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>>158650594

You're full of shit.

Because you only need 40 Dex and not 40/40 you can put the remaining levels into Int or Fai for example for CMW/DMB.

A 40/40 Refined Longsword has 428 AR, Sharp Quills at 40 Dex have 389, and 130 Critical to boot. You must confuse them with the regular Rapier and Ricard's Rapier, which have shit AR.

>>158650614

The L2 might be bad, the follow-up R2 is decent I think.

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>>158650040
>>158650159

So what do you guys think about the partizan anyways? What do you like about it? Do you think the moveset really makes a difference, is it only usable with DMB, etc?

I've actually started using the drang twinspears after a fellow anon recommended it to me in an earlier thread saying the rolling L1 wasn't nerfed like gotthards. I've found it to be basically a great physical only spear (gets around I believe 368 damage with quality, no infusions strangely enough) that replaced the normally shit-tier rolling attack with an insanely OP one. Otherwise functions like a normal spear, WA is just as useless as always but that's fine, good for running down chuggers in invasions at least. I pair it with a BK Shield for dealing with parry fishers, punish backstab all day, use hornet/leo/chloranthy/fap rings.

tl;dr everyone always talks about meta shit like gargoyle or dragonslayer (spear or swordspear), let's talk about the underrated but still actually amazing spears. I actually prefer the twinspears over every other spear now and the only L1 move I ever use is the rolling attack, it makes such a difference having that.

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little brother just finished the dlc
don;t think i've ever witnessed anything more clutch than this

totally thought he was going to choke desu

>>158650919
It's not. These people are deluded. They're the same people that claim that pyromancy is viable because they saw that japanese pyromancer owning people 3v1.

Against any DECENT player faith/pyro/sorcery simply doesn't work. It's just inferior to quality builds.

Why the fuck would I bother casting lightning stake which costs FP and stamina when I can just press R1 with my greatsword equipped and do the same damage without the FP cost.

so is the pvp or arena more popular for pvp? (PC)

>>158651189
that jap was legit af tho

>>158650919
It's not

I hope we get a Bed of Chaos kinda boss in the next DLC, the series has been lacking bosses you need to think to defeat, these days all we get is dude with sword: hit until you defeat him.

>>158651243
(You)

I want ds2 to be popular again :(

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>guard break, WA, you say

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I fucking miss first month DS2 Ratfag covenant so much, guys. I never had so much fun playing a video game as then.
Newbies just flat out died to traps or the giants. You got to bully the more experienced players with your bow, and if they managed to make it all the way up to you, there was that giant just sitting around the corner waiting to gangbang him with you.
And then you could just gather a ton of Bonfire Ascetics and burn them all on the nearby bonfire and watch as your NG+5 giants raped the everloving shit out of anyone who was unfortunate enough to get caught by you.

>>158651226
I haven't even been to pontiff's since the DLC released but I rarely see the same guy twice so I assume it's pretty active. I don't mind not being embered and knowing that my opponent can't use estus is nice.

>>158651189
Exactly, I made my paladin just cause I like the idea and enjoy hurling bolts of sunlight
My build would be better and i'd have an easier time in pvp if I just made my paladin a knight, I could hit harder, I could soak up more damage, roll and block (if I wanted to lmao) more
Faith is a hindrance on my character that I keep because I enjoy it

>>158651041
>ToD is useless if your opponent has a single piece of the Thorns set on
Any source of regeneration counteracts that.

Pure Faith is pretty bad in PvP, yes. Str/Fth hybrids do better, but not by much and they don't get any special advantages over pure Str outside healing spells and obnoxious amounts of regen. GMB is nice to shut down the odd Int, though.

>>158651236
Yeah but not only is he insanely skilled when it comes to free aiming GCFB (which most people are not) but he used the environment to his advantage as well.

All this works very well in invasions but in a 1v1 duel against people who know how to play that shit will not fly.

>>158650154
>It's a free backstab 90% of the time, and I always clap while they're on the ground

This. I've literally changed my first emote to clap because I use it so fucking often because of this, as a spear main. I still think shields are the answer though. You run at people and they either attempt to parry a running R1 and instead you shieldpoke backstab punish them (faster animation than a normal R1 so they can't escape it, only works for spears and thrusting swords), or they attack and just hit your 69 stability shield a few times and you roll away undamaged. They lose either way, and after you start to sense them losing hope in parrying you can actually run at them with your guard up and still running R1 them, hopefully getting them to try to parry the running R1 so you can shieldpoke hornet backstab punish yet again.

It's so fucking satisfying. I still remember the early days in the game where people said spears were the worst weapon type in the game because the moveset was 1-dimensional and they could be sight parried. Feels fucking good to be vindicated.

>>158651189

>people still confusing duels and invasions

Pretty much all offensive spells are trash in duels, but a Pyromancer and One-Shot Sorcerer glass-cannon are 100% viable for invasions.

Only offensive miracles are just shit all around. I only juse it for healing/support.

Copy/pasted from last thread

For those of you who have made a character like this, what level range would you say was the most fun and effective for playing as a healslut? got a tl;dr of what your build mainly consisted of? It looks like a fun way to play once in awhile

>>158651336
I wish they had combined Gravelords and the Rat covenant somehow and made it so it wasn't some optional area everyone avoided after the first week. Dunno why they ditched that concept entirely, it was so fun.

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Laito
Losefka
Ludex Gundyr

Need help with this shit
Vitality 20
Equip load 64.2/63.0
Weight ratio 101.9%

How many points should I put to be able to fast roll?

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holy shit why did no one ever tell me how fun this build is. jesus fuck

ive been cooping through the game with a pair of pals and every time we've been invaded all fall before the pancake maker

Who is your favorite Souls speedrunner? LobosJR? Elajjaz? Distortion?

>>158651364
But nobody uses any regen. Blessed weapon is plain stupid and nobody sane is gonna use a ring slot on Sun Princess ring just to counter a counter

>>158651386
Top tier bullying

>>158651102
Use the normal l1s more, the 1st l1 does a fast horizontal swing that's good for people right in your face, and you can combo off an r1 into the 2nd l1 for free damage.

Ever thought about the fact that DS2 is the only souls game that features a nigger NPC and it's also the worst?

>>158651376
Spears have always been good in every single Souls games and the only reason they're not popular is because meme streamers never use them.

That Gargoyle spear is semipopular though because of old m8 Scott Jund

>>158651386
>100 damage per orb
wooooooooooow

>>158651449
Why don't you just put in one point at a time until you're fastrolling

>regular attacks of javelin are slow as fuck unlike every other spear
>only running attack is unaffected

So they basically made a throwable strength katana then, cool.

>>158651414
I get summoned to help people fight bosses, not win bosses for them by myself, or stand around in a circle of phantoms mashing r1, so I hate the idea tbqh, but you know, go for it

WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOW

AND I DIED AGAIN WITH THE FATFUCK SPAMMING HIS FUCKING SHOVEL ATTACK

ALL I WANT TO BEAT FUCKING SUPER ORNSTEIN

BUT NO

HAVE TO DEAL WITH TWO FUCKFACES WITH A FUCKING CLOTHIE FAITH ASSHOLE WHO GETS FUCKING MEMED ON BY SILVER KNIGHTS

WHY IS DARK SOULS SO FUCKING SHIT
SHITTY HITBOXES
UNFUN GAMEPLAY
CASTING SPEED TIED TO FUCKING DEX
PATCHES CAN'T BECOME A FUCKING MERCHANT IF YOU ARE A CLERIC

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

I JUST WANTED TO HAVE FUN AND SO I CAN RELAX AND ALL I GOT IS FUCKING SHIT SHIT SHIT FUCKING SHIT

>>158651585
You ok there buddy?

>>158651464
Santzo and distortion, everyone else is a shit

>>158651449

Is primary school maths too difficult for you?

You need about 214 max equip load, which is impossible to get I'm pretty sure.

>>158651306
That guy gets perma-stunlocked by claw L1 spam because he tries to stand there and block it. It's really sad.

>>158651470
>Blessed weapon is plain stupid
Only if you don't know how math works. Blessed weapon is stronger than other buffs on weapons with high attack modifiers (like great axes, or just weapon arts) because it's a multiplier instead of flat additive damage. And good Faith builds don't really need the Firstborn ring since they already know they aren't gonna hit anyone with Lightning Stake anyways, so putting the Sun Princess Ring in its place is fine. The go-to option is a Blessed-infused offhand, though.

Also, DLC has a shield with 50+ stability, 100% physical block, and regen. Just saying.

>>158651456
>No paladin set
>can't get whatever ashen knight boyds armor was
WHY FROM?

aight theres to many whiners and shitters posting right now. maybe we can get an arena goin later.


Ill see you guys.

>>158651392
Well if I'm honest, pyro and sorcery can at least do moderately well in duels but faith is just absolute garbage.

Like you would have to be braindead to get hit by any miracle in this game.

where is the arena located in the DLC

is the season pass worth it?

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Why are there two darkmoon icons and what is the difference between them?
Is it max covenant rank or something?

>>158651464
I wish I could watch Distortion but it's not really entertaining watching someone get frustrated, I don't blame him because what he's doing is inherently frustrating, but I'd rather watch someone who doesn't. Lobos has insane patience, and I don't really watch Elajjaz anymore but he seemed pretty chill when I used to watch him play BB.

I wish sub notifications weren't inbuilt into the stream so I could turn them off though, I hate the sound effects and all the shit streamers do for subs these days.

OH SHOOT

>>158651637
I like Distortion but I don't know, recently he has been whining too much, making his runs almost impossible to bear.

>>158651456

Are you playing on PS2?

>>158648770
I hate this meme

>>158651691
One is the blue sentinels one is the blades of the darkmoon. They're two seperate covenants that doe exactly the same thing because Miyazaki is a nigger.

>>158651585
I'm just gonna start hiding your posts from now on.

>>158651691
Never mind, I'm retarded and forgot about blue sentinels.

>>158651691
Rusted Moon and Sword = Blue Sentinels
Glowing Moon and Sword = Blades of the Darkmoon

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>>158651501
it was made for bullying

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Post your top 3 weaponfus in DaS3, /dsg/

>1
Pic related

This shit just looks so damn good. It's not got the best moveset or the best range but my god does it make up for it in style. Plus, I feel the 1 handed moveset seems to annihilate worlds during invasions, but that may just be the GS buff in general.

>2
Partizan

Funnest moveset IMO.

>3

DSA

Don't even know why.

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>>158651691

one is Blades of the Darkmoon the other is Blue Sentinels.

>>158651585
>WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOW

Hi DSP.

>>158651507

Cool, I'll try those. So L1 and back off or R1->L1?

I mean, I'm REALLY liking them. Way more versatile than a gargoyle or dragonslayer spear imo (same reason I could see the partizan being a great and underrated spear). People shit on the AR but honestly 368 isn't even that bad for a spear imo, gargoyle is only 324 physical and dragonslayer is 387 physical, it's really not bad and it actually does a lot more when you consider the ability to buff them and that you hit twice with the L1 attacks. You can also just use it like a normal spear 1H with a shield no problem.

Gonna try some aldrich invasions with them today on my quality SL125 build, using dark resin and lightning bundles. I think it's really underrated if you know how to use spears properly (how to play around parrying and how to space, basically).

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Whats the advantage of using KB+M over Controller?

>>158651843
DSP is actually pretty good at Souls games though.

>playing through again with a goofy cosplay build as a solo host
>invaded at all the usual places by ridiculous overgeared and overstatted DLC twinks at every turn
>not even having fun with them
>massive uphill battle every time due to lack of mandatory rings and such
>don't want to CE them in because then the singleplayer gets easier
>consider summoning a gank just to do away with it but I don't even want to coop
>don't even want to PvP
>just go offline

The fatigue is unreal.

>>158649118
>he blocked ads even though they helped mootikins & now hiroshima
come on now anon

>>158651925
bind kick 2 one key
macro combos into spells

>>158651863
The 1st l1 also combos into the 2nd l1, but the tracking isn't great on the 2nd l1, so there'll be times you'll hit with the horizontal slash of the 1st l1, but miss the 2nd l1 entirely; you've just gotta be a bit cautious of it.

The 3rd l1, which you can do following 2 r1s, also has longer range than any other of it's attacks and can occasionally catch people off guard.

I unironically died about 50 times to Friede but the bitch is finally down after an epic battle.

>>158651946
u wot m9?

Is this a fresh meme or has he massively improved since he ditched his playthrough of DS1 halfway through blighttown?

>>158651986
>macro combos into spells
what

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>>158651657
>can't get whatever ashen knight boyds armor was
they royal soldier set?

yes you can, Maughlin sells it

>>158651736
I didnt take the screenshot, its off of google

What causes the ladders to appear down in the Depths of the Painting?

And what's up with those disgusting flies?

Is the painting girl Ariamis?

>>158652015
He finished DaS1 m8, update your info.

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Is this a terrible idea? Want to use GSoJ, Immolation Tinder, Friede's and whatever else scales well this way. Gargoyle FS and some other split quality ones probably work well too.

Not sure if the stamina will cut it and if I should drop a few levels of damage stats (and possibly use +5 rings?).

>>158651925
you don't have to buy a controller

>>158649284
Yes, it's confirmed. Very obviously too. Ariandel is most likely a descendant of Ariamis though, since he knows the painting's secret and how to work with it, as well as being hugely invested in preserving what's probably his family legacy.

>>158651975
stop being a shitter, i literally ember up and dried finger every new area i go into to encourage invaders, pve just isnt a challenge anymore

>>158651983
Who's moot is he a moderator?

>>158652056
>And what's up with those disgusting flies?
DUDE BLOODBORNE, LMAO

>Is the painting girl Ariamis?
no, but she's obviously related to whoever aramis was

>>158652056
killing a certain tree lady causes it to appear

the flies were probably attracted to the blood of the painting and got in

no clue

>>158652036
stun lock into pyromancies

>>158651975
>don't want to CE them in because then the singleplayer gets easier
You could, you know, not use them for PvE.

>>158652060
I don't really keep up with DSP's content since I find him to be an insufferable cunt most of the time.

I'm astounded that he has a following at all to be honest let alone the number of views he gets.

>>158651975
see, the way I know you're lying is because you don't get invaded as a solo host

>>158652047
I was talking about in 3, how there is nothing like either of those similar sets in the game for whatever reason, when they went overboard sticking other old shit in

>>158651521

Yeah idk I was always told they were ez parry bait, and I'm someone who played DaS3 as my first souls game and did my entire first playthrough with the lothric knight long spear because I wanted the longest reach, highest damage poke weapon I could get my hands on and thought pikes were just that. I got super paranoid about getting parried because I heard that all the time and LKLS has an even more limited moveset than regular spears ffs, the WA and running and rolling attacks are all garbage so you're literally limited to just R1's and charged R2's most of the time. I got gud at beating people with just that for a long time in meta pontiff duels, not even using a shield either I just 2H'd the thing because of the attack speed buff.

Now I use meta spears and it feels like easy mode, like I've been training with weights this whole time and now I've taken them off and am playing without the handicap. Gargoyle FS was like a dream to me (could finally do running attacks and running feints), Drangs are even more so since now I actually have a usable rolling attack on top of normal spear stuff. I'll have to try out the partizan some time to see what it feels like to have a usable WA on a spear.

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>>158652015
He has not in the slightest.

>>158652064
>120
yes

>>158652151
I'm not a big fan of DSP either and I'm pretty sure he only has a following because he's shit at games, believe it or not but people like to watch others being bad at video games too, also some truths must be said, DSP is good at Souls games, he's also good at fighting games and character action games (DMC, Ninja Gaiden, etc), it just so happens he's shit at everything else.

>>158652151
His viewer base is slowly declining, probably because he's an insufferable cunt. He's gotten good enough to beat souls games without help though, and finished AoA blind in about 3-4 hours.

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>>158651809

>1 - DSGA

I know it's not a top tier weapon, but I've found I've had pretty good success with it. In most games I gravitate more towards lighter, faster type characters but this weapon made me go heavy weapon. Plus lightning is badass, even if offensive miracles are useless.

>2 - Black Knight Glaive

Fun weapon, good moveset, gratifying to kill with, pretty light weapon allows for a moderate weight secondary like CCS, O&U, or Gotthards.

>3 - Twin Prince's Greatsword

Solid moveset, 2 different WAs with one being a projectile, just fun to use.

>Honorable Mentions:

Astora SS - got me through NG for my first ever DaS game
O&U - really needs explaining?
Chaos Blade - pshht, nothin' personell, kid

>>158652195
I've been using the Dragonslayer Spear, it's probably not the best but it gets the job done. Have beaten plenty of meta shitters with it.

Also the WA is extremely satisfying to land on someone and has deceptive amounts of hyper armor.

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I want to make a sorcery character. Any advice? What class? What stats and so on. Would be much appreciated.

>>158652157
Can't tell if you're shitposting or not, I know the gank is real but i've both been invaded by myself and invaded solo hosts many a time

>>158652269
t. tryhard

>Corvians drop dung pies at every corner in the DLC
WHAT DOES IT MEAN FRANK?

>>158652056
Ariamis is long since RIP. Painter is related to Priscilla. Literal dragon eyes and scales.

>>158652075
It's not even about being a shitter. It's about PvP being boring and shitty as hell and being tired of it after 50+ hours of doing it. I don't even want to bother with it when I just want to go through the game with a gimmicky build. I just want the ember and to not have to deal with 300+ damage onyx blade spammers at level 20.

>>158652157
Depends what hours of the day you play.

>>158652145
I am bad at hardswapping.

>new pyromancy flame has 15 STR requirement

Bastards, I had to take my pyro to SL65

>>158652358
It means absolutely nothing, not everything is tied to lore.

>>158652358
Miyazaki is shittalking you.

>>158652262
DSP is not good at souls games, he puts on an act sure, but he not fucking good at souls games jesus fuck
he's approaching being like moderate, sometimes, he is in now way good though

>>158652194
oh.
oh yeah. that murders me.
>hey here's ornstein's set, still without the plume lol!
>here's solaire's set
>here's a bunch of other sets from 1 and 2
>what's that? you want another garl vinland analogue?
>what's that? you want another variation of the paladin set like in 2?
>fuck you and fuck faith

>>158652391
you can cast without meeting the STR requirement
it's only good for melee range pyromancies like great combustion or sacred flame though
otherwise it has a lower spellbuff
losing combustion WA is also pretty inconvenient

>>158650668
Just jump on them from the branch and ripost them.

Also their moveset isn't hard to learn. You should have learned it by now

>>158652318
30att, 60int, court sorcerer staff, base requirements for weapon of choice, 40vig minimum, everything else into End.

>>158652393
>>158652396
Does this finally mean dung pie builds are viable at last?

>>158652318
If you're into twikinking this may help,was posted yesterday https://www.mugenmonkey.com/darksouls3/80609

>>158652475
>otherwise it has a lower spellbuff
It has higher base spellbuff but worse scaling, meaning it's stronger at lower levels.

>>158652572
You know you can buy poop, right? There's an ash for that.

Why is the build variety in DaSII so much better than in DaSIII?

>>158648917
Perseverance doesn't work on heavy knockback attacks such as the Pus of Man's

>tfw win 1v3 because they were nice enough to duel me one by one
But empty 3v3 are very common now. Is it ALREADY dead? The dlc came out what, 3 days ago?

>>158651809
In DaS3?
>1
Hollowslayer GS comes first, I love the looks of it, and the moveset is amazing. It was also my favorite weapon in 2.

>2
Lothric GS. It has the best moveset, in my opinion, it's just like the Zweihander in 2.

>3
Claymore. Great moveset, light, looks great and isn't super tryhard as other GSs.

>>158652451
Be strong brother, be strong, some day we will be vindicated
I wouldn't expect it any day soon though

>>158652604
you get a higher spellbuff on regular flame as soon as you go over ~20/20 if I'm not mistaken
so it's only incredibly low levels

>>158652507
This.

Every sorcery build is exactly the same excluding weapon choice - then again so is every quality build.

Don't forget your mandatory 3 rings, cuck crown and offhand candlestick.

>>158652008

Neat, thanks for the info anon. I'll have to practice and play around with those options but ultimately my normal R1/R2 attacks and the rolling L1 are my break and butter I'd say. The running L1 is pretty garbage.

>>158652657
>claymore over bastard sword
baka 2bh

>>158652697
>offhand candlestick
No, never offhand the candlestick. You offhand the staff so you can use the weapon art without needing to two-hand, and still backstab with the candlestick if the opportunity ever comes up.

the dlc more fun than fight clubbing?

>valorheart roar WA insta-guardbreaks medium shields

I wish someone had told me... :^/

>>158652768
Never tried the bastard sword in 3, so I can't tell.

>>158652656
It's not like arena offers anything new to PvP

>>158652816
BK Shield can tank it.

>>158652826
I've never used the claymore

>>158652604
>You know you can buy poop, right? There's an ash for that.
Nice. Stinky Pete can finally be made

How to deal with Valorheart friends? I don't know why this weapon gives me more trouble than Carthus and every other meta weapon

>>158652785
bsiidspdrpxprxoroxifipyp

The DLC feels too disconnected from the main game, atmosphere and lore wise.

That Sulyvahn revelation adds nothing, it was shoehorned in.

>>158652323
I've played the whole game embered, got invaded twice during the entire thing
I summoned a phantom and instantly got invaded as well

Did the DLC embered as well & only got invaded once

The invasions lean so heavily towards people with phantoms it's insane

>>158652904
l-let's help each other, anon

>>158652808

Invading is more fun than FC'ing if that's what you mean. I actually went back to do some pontiff duel meta crap the other day for a bit and it seems so fucking quaint and easy now. I got bored of it after 300 some-odd hours of just pontiff meta duels and now that I've been doing nothing but invasions at different SL's for a week and come back to it, it seems so bad. I've become used to dealing with all of the bullshit of dealing with gankers and trying to use the level to my advantage when I can (or at high level pontiff invasions, waiting for backup to 2v2 or 3v3 gank squads), sometimes just me and any mobs I can find vs. a host and 3 phantoms. 1v1 honor duels with no healing and no running away seems really easy after that becomes the norm imo.

>>158652906
The game has been out for seven months and you didn't know that?

>>158652926
It does because the Ariandel painting is the Ariamis painting, so Sulyvahn was born inside the Ariamis painting, he might be a character we meet in DaS1.

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>>158652318
30 att 40 int 40 faith crystal chime & pyromancer flame

>>158653059
Sulyvahn is a wheel skelly. Deepest lore.

will you buy a ps4 if the next souls game is ps4 only>?

>>158652967
What if my bastard finds out anon?

MartyrsBrigade

is...

out

>>158653112
We can exchange weapons and return them later, it should be fine, r-right?

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>>158652917

Guardbreak them, if I can do it with twinspears I'm sure you can find a way. It's really not that hard when you realize all of their attacks have guard frames.

Ariandel kinda looks like the labyrinth madmen from BB.

How upgraded should my weapons be at sl 50 if i want to invade

>>158652269
>>158651809
>>158652657
going make a video and make your weaponfus the meta

>>158653110
>next souls game
How to spot the newfag

>>158653231
Stop this anon!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Don't ruin my weaponfus!!!!!!!

>>158653171
That only works against retards though. Do all of the attacks really have guard frames? I only thought it was some of them

>>158653162
I'm not sure i'd be able to look at my bastard straight again...

>>158653239
As if Bamco won't do that
Please

Anyone wanna co-op?
Grand Archives bonfire, PC, pass dsg.

>>158653380
They won't because they can't do it without From, they're simple not able to, they don't have the source code, neither access to the engine, besides I'm pretty sure From owns a good portion of the IP considering they publish the series on Japan.

>>158653356
I promise I'll take care of her if you treat my claymore well, anon.

>2 player brawl
Nigga that's not a brawl, that's called duel.

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>>158653231
N-no

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>>158653091
> 11 vigor

>>158653457
bloodbourne is a souls game

>two dorkmoon summons and two concords in less than 15 minutes
would've been nice if this happened on my first playthrough months ago

>>158650668
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1MEdj9jHPMg

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>DLC was ok but not that interesting
>most single player games just don't give the same feeling of discovery as souls games
>would have to invest in a PS4 to play Bloodborne
>no new souls games for PC after the second DLC
>tfw you feel the approach of the end

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>>158653457
Bamco fully owns Dark Souls
Which by the way makes the shitty comics canon

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>>158653521

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>tfw you will never relive those first 2 weeks after the release of DS3 when everyone was messing around with different weapons, nobody knew what certain weaponarts did and best of all nobody was using metaweapons

The whole internet community is both a blessing and a curse to these games.

>>158653574
Bloodborne is worth a ps4

>>158653583
>Bamco fully owns Dark Souls

What is the source for that? Like I said From publishes the games on Japan so they must own some part of it otherwise wouldn't make sense for Bandai Namco to not publish the games on Japan.

>>158653281

A lot of them do at least, I haven't really looked into it. Basically if you can do enough damage while they're attacking or they fuck up their stamina management you can fuck their shit up. In my case I can drain stamina here and there with running R1's and other associated pokes so usually they're not even at full stamina if they try to counterattack.

That's the advantage of spears in general though, that you outspace and outrange people if you git gud with them, you can hit them but they can't hit you. Against valorheart I'm either getting in damage or taking out stamina so if they get frustrated with trying to get passed my range they will get guardbroken pretty easily since they can't attack me with full stamina, they can't R1 spam my, and I outspace them all fucking day.

The same thing works with any given high damage weapons though, the valorheart shield only has like 50 stability. I haven't really run into anyone I'd call amazing at using the weapon though, I'd like to though but my theory on dealing with it still seems pretty sound, either outspace them or use some HA weapon like GS/hammer/ultras. It's probably only not going to be guardbroken against straight/curved/thrusting swords.

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>Second DLC you go into the Abyss and shit.

>Fight Darkwraith that have the original Dark Souls 1 dark set and not the one that looks like they got hit by a bus.

>Drops some shit called Preserved Dark Set.

>>158651653
Nah I just needed 28 more points and im good

>>158653616
aldritch invasions on release was the most fun i've had in any souls game

>>158653239
You honestly believe they won't make a Souls 4? Of course they will, it's making them tons of money.

>>158653281
>>158653662

I'll tell you what though: I'll start doing pontiff duels with the valorheart today, try to learn how to use it effectively or at least what it's weak against. I'll report back later.

>>158653616
>more signs than any other game on release
>that explosion of post pontiff signs all hapoening at once
>barely could see the floor

>>158653645
>What is the source for that?
Miyazaki. Bamco has the rights to DkS, Sony has the rights to DeS and BB

>>158653625
More reason to wait then.

>>158653687
same, it was honestly amazing
i honestly wish for a souls 4 just so i can experience those first weeks all over again

>>158653218

>>158653464
Well all right then
Oh and if you hear from Drakeblood Greatsword, we never spoke

>>158653782
You expect me to take your word for it? Post a link.

>>158653851
+5/+6

>>158653521
it's a spin-off by industries standards
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6OJxwYHq0MQ&feature=youtu.be&t=6m15s

pcfcbf

>>158653771
If we're still in this thread reply to this post pls anon. Interested in seeing how it goes.

>>158653851
Check the DkS3 link in OP

>>158649124
What weapon is that? I got BTFO with it earlier.

>>158653970
Follower's Sabre

>>158653110
no
switch will still have more games than PS4

>>158653218
4-6

>>158653970
metashitter weapon
It's in the dlc, follower sabre

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Are you brave enough to post your fashion, /dsg/?

>>158653970
Follower's Saber. It's the new meme meta weapon

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>>158650040
After I kill a faggot like that nothing makes my dick harder than spamming the parry animation.

3v3 is a clusterfuck. Hard to tell friend from enemy.

>>158653970
Followers Sabre, its the new Carthus Curved Sword. Has the 2-handed curved sword moveset, is lighter, and has a guardbreaking WA that does around 850 AR damage.

>>158653908
>>158653938
>>158654024
Thanks

>>158653869
You can google as well as me, I don't have a link ready since miyazaki did like 5 million souls interviews

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>>158654059
I have no good screenshots showing it

If Soul of Cinder is the combined souls of everyone who has linked the fire, why aren't Yhorm, Aldritch, Abyss Watchers and Ludleth a part of it, considering they have all linked the fire and are lords of cinder?

It's the one bit of DS3 that doesn't make sense.

Why is DaS so fucking ugly holy shit

>>158654150
Bamco is only responsible for publishing the international release. From has full copyright of the Dark Souls franchise. BB and DeS are Sony's. Please find an interview where he directly states that DaS is owned by Bandai Namco.

So Follower's Torch is a straight upgrade for the Torch?

>>158654020
>>158654035
>>158654059
>>158654109
Thanks lads, have some (You)'s as appreciation.

D-did the bonewheel skellingtons turn into flies?

Haven't seen more than one sign per area now going through the game. Is the game dead already or am I the only faggot not playing the DLC?

>>158653625
but it's not worth paid online, which really kills the replayability

>>158654276
Are you using DSFix? It looks pretty nice with supersampling and all that fancy shit 2bh

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Guys what kind of weapons would you like to see next?I personally would love something like Tira in Soul Calibur.

>>158654316
It's heavy as fuck and has a shitty WA but it makes Olympic Torch runs actually viable.

>>158654342
On PC? PS4 still has constant action.

>>158653645
wasnt Bamco part of the reason for DaS2's rushed fucked development?

they might not own it, but they have say in it.

DaS2 was originally open world until Bamco nixed it and told them to start over, starting the tragic development cycle we already know

>>158654328
No, they were part of the kind inhabitants and those are gone.

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>>158654059
I'm not very imaginative.

>>158654342
You might be the only faggot, though I'm sure there must be people starting new characters for the DLC. Do you have a password set accidentally?

When invading do you think you should be at a 0 level or a 5 level?

For example, pre-pontiff invading: SL50, or SL55? SL60, or SL65?

>>158649551
That vig seems pretty low, what SL is this?

>>158654506
30 if not less

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Whatever happened to the sacrifice bonfire mechanic in Dark Souls III? In the early interviews they said it was such an important aspect in the game, doesn't make sense they would cut it without a good reason.

>>158654414
Yeah on PC. PS4 makes me jelly of all the PVP and co-op but I only want Souls for it so I won't get one.
>>158654463
No password, I've seen some signs but veery few. How's the DLC then, many people playing?

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>>158652269
>1
Previously Ricard's Rapier, as it was in 1 and 2 (with the Espada Ropera, I want my baby back) But the Crow Quills are just so damn fun to use.

>2
Wolf Knight greatsword. Another fun, versitile weapon with an attack for any situations, though not as good as the DaS2 version paired with the bonefist (bring it back god damn it).

>3
Astora Greatsword. A lovely looking weapon with insane thrust damage and a awesome weapon art, and since the patch that made it balanced, what's not to love?

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>>158648870

Still
Never ever will you do this gesture
Still

>>158654502
My experience is that the higher level you invade the more chance you have of the host being a ganking, way of the blue wearing shitter. While invading a bit lower the host is usually a bit more experienced and doesn't mind being invaded that much.

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i wish you could always have wolves follow you as a mound maker, we're in this together.

>>158654636
Loads, I get summoned instantly and see lots of people cooping when I invade

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>>158654059

>>158654636
I get instant invades at most levels on the DLC at both PS4 and PC.
No one wants to coop with you, they want to coop with passworded friends.

>>158654685
Nice dude. Btw the only thing matchmaking on does is match you with japan right?

>>158654684
I wish I knew what caused this, it seems like a bug. It's been pretty helpful every time it's happened to me

>>158654747
I don't think it does anything at all 2bh

>>158654462
heh nothing personal

>>158654718
Dang. I don't have any of those. I'll invade and ruin the day for normalfags instead then.

>>158654583
they probably had trouble actually balancing it in regards to the mechanics of HOW to do it.

like, do you get consumable bonfire swords? do you sacrifice a sword in your inventory? how do you get the consumables if they are consumable? how do you perform the action on a corpse? do you have to kick the ragdolls over to a specific spot? do you need a specific enemy's corpse? etc etc.

that said it's clear the level design was originally balanced around having no bonfires. the bosses dropping bonfires ONLY exists because originally, there would only be 1 bonfire at the start of the level, and 1 at the end of the level, sort of like DeS, where bosses dropped a bonfire.

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>>158654684
>invading in the early parts of the DLC when the host gets ganked twice by a bazillion doggos and the big bad wolf shows up

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>>158649012
Painter girl is Ariamis and she's adorable.

>Valorheart
>40 END
>Chloranthy +2
>Grass Crest Shield on back
>Constantly nom on Grass

I AM INVINCIBLE!

>>158654839
Honestly, it'd be too much of a hassle to balance for no benefit.
Static well distributed bonfires is just a better system and creating them anywhere wouldn't have added much to the gameplay, the way we have it now would be perfect removing only a few bonfires

>>158654583
>>158654839
it's clear it was removed very late in development, considering Bamco's big streamer even had a fucking statue of the player making a bonfire, with the corpse that would occasionally spout blood all over the place, and the very intro movie shows the ashen one, (IN full soul of cinder gear) making a bonfire.

although to be fair, those CG movies are made well in advance of the game I think, considering DaS2's one also factors into the cut time travel mechanics and shit.

>>158654914
>Invade
>start looking for host
>darkmoon arrives
>darkmoon dies
>spot host in the distance
>wander around trying to get there a bit more
>darkmoon joins
>darkmoon dies again
>host dies to falling/archer/random mob before I get to him

>>158654914
>Invading during the lmao 3 crab boss fight

I can pretend like there's an old monk battle in the DLC...

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>>158654914
it really is a comfy feel, now that i got 2 doggies im trying to rangle my bois, feels like im on the hunt in bb

>>158654583
From can't balance for balls and it probably conflicted with level design

anyone wants to help me with pontiff in NG+ ?
PC password is PC

>>158654920
>Implying she painted her own mom

>>158655113
I'm on NG, can I still help you?

>>158654836
>I'll invade and ruin the day for normalfags instead then.

You say that like it's a bad thing. Invading is the best, most fun part of this game, anon. Especially on new content/people still naturally playing the game.

The original purpose of invasions was supposed to be that you're basically like a mini-boss mob and like the rest of the mobs, you're trying to stop the host and whatever phantoms he has from progressing/getting to the boss. This is why giant seed was a fucking mistake because the host already has enough advantages over invaders as-is.

You don't get a ton of time to fuck with people literally just trying to beat the new content for the first time ever, you should relish it.

>>158654369
I am, it's not an issue of graphics per se, it's just the aestethics that's bothering me

>>158655153
Passwords don't affect ng or ng+ summoning