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First for me.
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>tfw can't take off work tomorrow for the patch
neets I envy you
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Why does everyone think the Fire Mages are getting buffed? Pyro is the most commonly used spell, the other two are barely used at all and its an overall nerf
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>>158348528
>neets I envy you
it's not as great as you think but i have a bit of money from my previous job
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Post cute mounts!
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>>158348653
u 1st
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>>158348583
it is an overall nerf but it's not that bad, pyro nerf is about 3% overall nerf and the buffs to flamestrike are actually quite nice for mythic+ and idk..spirit shades on mythic dragons I guess?
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Summoning Lynris...
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What ilvl do you think people will be asking for karazhan?
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>>158348903
870+curve ach
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Who /FrostyTuesday/ tomorrow? Mages AND dks :D
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>Brewmaster buffs
Already better than dks and their shitty buff
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>>158348903
865+
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>patch will break dbm's range and arrows

Arrows like in halls of valor's odyn and xavius' blades was too much handholding, but having to eyeball ranges is ridiculous when most debuffs don't have a clear indication of who's getting hit.
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So Blood of Sargeras is going to destroy the economy tomorrow.

How will anyone make money?
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what is this pand doing wowg?
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>>158349024
farting
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>>158348991
Hopefully nerfing DBM is going to mean they can add more obvious indicators into the game itself. I think Blizzard could learn a lot from the way XIV indicates mechanics in boss encounters so that players don't need a third party addon to actually do the fight.
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So I'm really feeling the burnout. I have four characters at 110 and a whole bunch around 100-105, but I just don't have much to do besides world quests it feels like. I don't like raiding and mythic + dungeons don't much appeal to me, should I just wait until 7.2 or something?
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>>158349024
fucking a cloud serpent, you can see his arm
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>>158349153
They probably won't and we'll need addons doing some janky shit like checking bandage and inspect ranges again.
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>blizz post about vanilla servers

>Urboybangs
<Literal Who>
110 Undead Warrior
5080
5 posts
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Hey everyone,

You've been talking about legacy servers for years now but we're still not quite ready to even mention it yet at our one major event of the year.

Thanks for your patience, and we’ll see you at BlizzCon even though we're blatantly ignoring the community that is quickly pulling away from our games!

>this guy is an 849 warrior WITH A FUCKING LEGENDARY
>ASKING FOR PRIVATE SERVERS
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>>158349556
yfw i'm an 881 shaman with multiple legendaries, 7/7M clear and a gladiator title

and i'm asking for legacy servers
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>>158348583
It's most commonly used because spreading a big ignite is better aoe than flame strike. This shifts the priority for flame strike for aoe. It's a berf to ST though
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>>158349697
I'm not subbed and I'm asking for legacy servers
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>>158349697
and they'll never happen

:)
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>>158348973
Its a bit weird how they keep giving more and more physical damage reduction to BRMs, in this patch more armor and dodge, when magic damage is the big problem with the class
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>be at corrupted ashbringer bottleneck part
>everyone waiting on mob to spawn
>Some kid complains about spawn times
>as he sits there on invincible, with the BiS ret legendary
>he has barely even raided normal

Just.


Why do casuals get these?
Why? They do not need the literal best pieces of gear obtainable, they do not use them for anything. Legendaries should be dropping from heroic raids and M+ 5 and beyond minimum..
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>>158349556
>b-but the game's good now!
I'd like to be able to play TBC again on an actually functioning server.

Would you fuck off
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>>158348653
>generic achievement mount
>shit transmog
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>>158349153
They could also learn from the integrated enemy grid in the base UI of FFXIV instead of shitty nameplates which show no information and like to jump around like a rabbit at a rave
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>>158349861
>literally said they are going to announce something post blizzcon
>th-theyre never happening!

wotlk babbies are sad......
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>>158350017
I'm not saying the game's good now, but if you can't manage to be AT LEAST 860+ WITHOUT a legendary by now with these welfare mythics you have no business asking for vanilla servers
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What's the addon for rp n shit?
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>frost gets ~15% damage buff which, at current 90th+ percentile standings puts it as the #2 best performing spec (after fire mage nerfs)
My time has finally come. Are you feeling sorry yet?
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>>158348973
>blood's literal only issue was lack of a major basline cd
>gets a baseline cd
I mean, i guess? Blood looks pretty fucking strong now tho. Won't deny that BM needed the buff.
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/wowg/ I am a holy pally, and there's a resto sham in my raiding guild. Our ilvl is virtually identical (I'm 864 he's 863) yet on most fights we're pretty much tied for healing.

What's wrong here? From everything I've read, I should be well above him. Looking at our logs, I have a pretty good spread of spell use, and his highest source is Chain Heal by far. Is it possible to compete with the automatic targeting of chain heal, or do I just need to git gud?
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>>158350098
no, they said "any updates will be after the show" meaning they don't have any, and it's an afterthought at most.

>we can’t wait to share what’s next for Legion.

you're fucking retarded if you think for a second theyre going to do anything to take eyes off legion
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>>158350090
I agree, I feel like changing their philosophy on encounter design so that fights and the default UI work in such a way that a DBM/BigWigs addon is made redundant would be really nice.
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>>158350071
ya right, most of u baddie fucks probably don't even have half the achieves for legion hero
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Why is Literal Who still included in the OP when it's no longer a wowg only guild?
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>do HH on frost dk alt for another crack at mount
>barely outparsing the tank
>pumpkins spawn
>end at almost 50% damage done
Nice game blozzord
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>>158349980

I had a guy telling me I didn't deserve the Legendary I got from +8 M+ because HE didn't have one and he was 20 days at level 110 while I was only 14 days.
I looked his armory up and he hadn't done a single Mythic dungeon, let alone any raids or Mythic+.

I don't understand how people can put so much time in an be so casual, and then be all snooty about it.

My Legendary is the fucking Roots of Shaladrassil too, so it's not like it's a fantastic Legendary.
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>>158349980
>has only killed H Xavius once
>not a single mythic EN boss done
>has less than 20% haste as a ret
>calls others casual
You people are such obnoxious retards. Not getting a lego is your punishment for being a whiny cunt
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>>158349556
I would bust a nut if we could just have vanilla WoW but with the new models
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>>158350220
>his highest source is Chain Heal by far

Sounds like you're both doing it wrong.
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>>158350359
literally how mad are you at being a virgin? jesus dude
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>>158349024
MORE
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>>158350240
You can't read at all. They didn't say

>any updates will be after the show

which implies its unsure if there are any updates. What they said was

>we won’t have any updates to share on that until after the show.

Meaning they have an update after the show.

I guess not having to read quest text means you cant read at all you fucking woddler
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>still no legendary
>no one wants me for mythic+ because I don't have fucking legendaries

This is some real bullshit
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>>158350105
>if you can't reach my specific requirement you can't play on a Vanilla server
You people are so petty its astounding.

Did it ever occur to you people play this game to have fun and not gloat their meaningless accomplishments over others?

Saying someone doesn't deserve to play a version of a game they like because they're not hardcore is autism in its purest form
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>>158350313
Why are any guilds included in the OP when it promotes nothing but avatarfag circlejerking?
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>>158350209
>its this shitter again making up fairy tales thinking his spec will change anything next patch
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>literally less than 1 day before Frost DK is stronger than UH
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>>158350578
>we won't have any updates to share on that til after the show (even then they may not.)

that's what he meant. he's just not saying no so you stupid virgins don't start ddosing blizz again

that's what he meant, you retarded dumbfuck
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>>158350071
Thats the long forgotten hippogryph you worthless cuck
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>>158350717
As it should be, fuck Unholmeme
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>>158350220
This is what I run. I tried out Bestow Faith but it honestly didn't feel right to me so I dropped it and went back to the hammer. I can see the appeal of Divine Purpose but with Holy Avenger you can just quickly cast a flash of light into a holy shock or matyr if the tank is taking a lot. I haven't healed with a shaman yet but I'm generally topping charts with 200k+
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>>158350725
You are exceptionally stupid my friend. It explains why you dont want legacy servers.
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>>158350105
>implying people actually played Vanilla solely because it was challenging or hardcore
Millions of people played WoW when it came out and I guarantee you 75% of them didn't even raid.

The game was casual when it came out because compared to other mmos at the time, it was extremely accessible from the UI, the combat and down to the questing system.

You have to understand that most people's experience with Vanilla/TBC was the leveling experience and most people probably stopped playing once they reached max level.

As much as people glorify those epic raids, they were honestly the worst part of the game
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>>158350851
i do want legacy servers but if you think he's doing anything but deflecting and saying they're not going to address it, you're delusional
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>>158350637
>facts backed by simulations and personal ptr testing
>fairytales
It's time to stop deluding yourself and face up to reality. Frost will once again be a top tier spec and there is nothing you can do about it.
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>>158350770
Yeah that's the legion dungeon achieve mount. IE something anyone could bash out in a day if they really wanted it.

Nothing worth bragging about.
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I hate everyone on Sargeras-US. It seems like the concentration of faggots is a lot higher than any other realm. I have characters on both Stormrage and Illidan and neither of them are this bad. It seems like there so mand "dude weed bro". And I see people like "chíefkèèf" and "dankgreens" and all sorts of other insufferable faggot names selling carries all the time in trade chat.

I'm really close to just transferring or rerolling to an RP realm or something so I dont have to deal with this shit. I'd rather be around futa furfags than these "internet gangsters".. but my main is on this server and I cant afford a transfer.
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>all these stupid faggots with parses, logs, and simulations
>my 834 ret dps FEELS like 600k
can't measure feelings can u faggot?
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So official legacy servers are not gonna happen.

Now we wait for nostalrius 2.0
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>>158350901
>simulations
yea because demonology being at the top and mm almost at the bottom is entirely accurate of live (mm is literally getting no damage changes unless something is undocumented so it will remain at the top)
>personal ptr testing
840 ilvl with ptrtards is not relevant
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>>158350958
Are you gay or something
http://www.wowhead.com/item=138258/reins-of-the-long-forgotten-hippogryph
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When are Blizzard going to consolidate servers into regional 'megaservers'? I've come back to play and the Alliance/Horde ratio on every non-dead Oceanic server is fucked. The way the way the game is designed now there's literally no reason for servers to even exist.
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>>158350984
news flash man rp servers are the exact same political discussions and references and meme spouting in trade chat
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>krog refugees that didn't amount to shit on that server hyping up nost 2.0
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>>158350778
Wait, was it tested that frost will be better than UH tomorrow? I'm down to switch but only if it's actually stronger. Also all my fucking gear is built for Crit for castigator so..
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>>158351082
Hey I also hit the dummy a lot for a more direct comparison. You will see in two days.
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>>158351087
>http://www.wowhead.com/item=138258/reins-of-the-long-forgotten-hippogryph


ahah

ahahaah

>follow a waypoint
>click on something
Wow, truly amazing.
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>>158351258
better than autistically camping for a mount for 24 hours
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>tfw want to roll warrior but arms is boring as fuck and even if fury becomes the best there's always the risk of needing to go arms
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>>158351359
Yeah dont bother going warrior. Biggest mistake of my life
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>>158351230
>dummies
>testing

confirmed for bad.
Dummies have nothing to do with actual raid performance.
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>>158351359
you have to play prot for questing and shit anyway
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>>158351359
You're gonna get cucked and go Prot.
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>>158350313
What do you mean?
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Which melee DPS should I roll for M+ and raiding? Fun is important but DPS is too.
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>>158351697
Which is more important
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>both of the classes I decided to level and gear up are hot and wet garbage

I dont even know why I'm still playing. Every time I log in I just feel terrible
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>>158350517
Judging by our performance percentiles, it seems we're not doing poorly. Take this M Nythendra kill, what am I doing wrong here? It seems he didn't go as crazy as I remembered on the Chain Heal here, but I distinctly remember seeing boss kills where his Chain Heal makes up 30%+ of his total healing.

>>158350817
Yeah we both get about 290k hps. I don't think we struggle with healing, but everything I've read says I should be on top.
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>>158351734
fun is more important but I want to at least be middle of the pack
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>>158351697
Rogue is probably the safest option. It would be a very rare scenario in which all 3 Rogue specs are awful.
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>>158351793
Melee or ranged
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>tfw raid leader pressuring me to switch to shadow from holy
>ask him if I can go disc
>no

o-okay then.
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>>158351875
he already said melee dipshit
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>>158351697
mage

special baby bitch spec that just had all it's specs buffed from massive whining
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>>158351965
>mage
>melee dps
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>>158352006
mage
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>>158351924
Enjoy spamming flash heal
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>those big Survival buffs

is it time to level my Hunter and go the meme spec?
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>>158352006
Mage nigger nobody cares about melee
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>>158352034
I use more than flash heal man! theres also my 2 holy words.
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>tfw cant get my 850 alts into heroic EN even when I link my aotc
Im not sure if being melee was the mistake or if people are just ilvl crazy. I pugged up to mythic 8 on this thing for the week but still cant get into raids. I should really get some friends.
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Enhance or WW monk as my alt

Is Enhance going to get fucked with a nerf cattle prod?
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>>158352158
iktf
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Any quick way of checking which pot is most profitable? I'm on sargeras, have most rank 1s, just want to get rid of all my herbs tonight. Potions of the old war?
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>>158352158
>I should really get some friends.

Yeah you should. You arent going to get anywhere as a DPS without friends.
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>Mythic Renferal progression
>class runs late
>late to raid by 30-45 min
>they swap me in for a shit dps as soon as I log on
>we kill it on that pull

>mythic ursoc prog
>same thing happened
>swapped me in after a 5% wipe right after I logged on
>killed it

man I love skipping all the wipes they endure since I learn fights instantly and it takes them 20+
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>>158351791
Not sure. If I don't completely forget to start my logs then I fuck them up in the long run since I've just started doing this crap. What's your stat priority/current stats looking like? I've got 35% crit, 15% haste, and 27% mastery. Pretty sure mastery is best but I really like the idea of crit/haste.
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>>158352158
>tfw friendless 854 fury warrior
>have been 854 for 2 weeks now
>cant get upgrades anywhere except for high level mythic+ or raids
>dont get invited to either
>all the guilds are recruiting RDPS
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jealouz?
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>>158352159
Do you want to play the same spec as Sodapoppin?
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>>158352216
Tell me about it. Half of the mythic+ I did this week I was inviting a combo of healer or tank with a 860+ ilvl and their garbage as fuck dps carry who barely pulls 150k.
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>>158352353
considering i got mine months ago not really
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>>158351423
>implying dealing 15% more damage to the dummy doesn't translate to dealing 15% more to the boss
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>>158352353
what the fuck is this from?
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>>158352227
>guild is casual as fuck, 3/7 heroic
>i want to do mythic raids but the people in the guild are really cool and fun to play with so i don't wanna leave them
>end up whoring myself out to fill spots in other mythic raiding guilds just so i can experience them, don't even bother asking for loot
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>>158352353
>He isnt saving his until it reaches 100k AP
step up senpai
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hello, i've been playing holy priest all expansion and at 865 ilvl my stats look like this

18% crit
10% haste
50% mastery

am I fucked?
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Now what?
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>>158352541
get ur shitter ilvl up
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>>158351212
They're parsing within 2% of eachother. Frost is easier with less rng though
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>>158352525
>hello, i've been playing holy priest

No need to post anything else. Yes you're fucked.

Unless of course youre a shitter and just do normal mode raids.
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>>158352541
you get a decent item level
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>>158352541
>Balance druid after tomorrow
L O L
O
L
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>>158352579
>>158352615
Mythic+ and raids are giving me nothing

>>158352617
They aren't that bad
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>>158352615
>Look at me guys I have buddies so I can do popular kids exclusive content

Wow you must be really good.
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>>158352525
Mastery is quite poor. You should be focusing on crit.
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>>158352327
Oh I'm not at my PC right now and I don't remember the numbers exactly but it's pretty similar to yours. Crit is definitely always the best, and for the second slot from what I've read mastery is technically better than versatility IF your group is stacked tightly the entire fight. In reality shit happens so versatility is better.

Your priority should go Int>crit>versatility>mastery>haste
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>decide to make priest alt
>reach order hall
>it's full of human and blood elf females in slutmog
>a few of them are dancing on the tables
woah...
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>>158352734
yfw i got to 870 without even being in a guild

>acting like its hard to m ake friends and do content
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I've tried to make a group for my +5 BRH 4 different times this week for a combined 55 minutes sitting in group finder.

I've had one application so far
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>>158352892
>tfw 873.62 from m+
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>>158352614
You realize one of the people with the top 20 highest ilevel in the world is a holy priest right?
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>>158352964
>a holy priest lucked out on emissary caches and lfr loot
big deal
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>>158352892
870 is doable without a guild. I'm 871. 881 however means you have butt buddies who want to do things with you all the time. Especially as an Ele shaman. I can picture him now doing 190k on Mythic Ursoc but hey its all in good fun m8 cause he's shooting the shit on discord xDD.
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@158353047
Nah, none for you.
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>>158352904
>BRH
>bolstering affix this week
Good luck mate. In the first place, most people hate running that even with an easy affix.
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HoV is objectively the worst dungeon.

This is NOT debatable.
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>>158352615
>elemental

hahahahahahahahahahahaha
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>>158353116
*debates u*
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>Go to redridge
>Eat hummanoid tracking food
>Camp level 18 priest for 20 minutes
>He brings his main
>Kill their man
>Camp the main for 20 more minutes
>He leaves
>Start camping other level 20s
>They bring their main main
>Kill the main again

Undoubtedly the best feeling you can have while playing a video game
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>>158353116
vow brings out the shitter in everyone
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>>158353194
>people dum enuff to quest
>can queue and level past redridge in two RFCs
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>>158353116
BRH and Vaults on M10-15+ wish to have a word with you.
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How do you guys pvp, I can't stand the playerbase.

I know it's fun and all but the non stop /spit, spamming LOL, using the flag of ownership and other instant shitter things just gets so tiring.
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>>158353317
the yuropoors that beat those on +15 used exploits
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>>158353116
I like how it looks and Odyn is a nice boss battle because he weeds out shitters on the first pull and boxes them.

BRH is a chore and the boss fights aren't even fun. VOW Cordana fight is fun but the rest of the dungeon is a chore to get through.
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>>158353169
It's fine as long as all you want to do is mythic+ and never raid.
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>>158353051
>190k on ursoc
you've never actually seen an 880+ ele, have you?
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jania is gone, only Azshara remains.
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>>158353370
>I know it's fun and all but the non stop /spit, spamming LOL, using the flag of ownership

That's the fun part
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>>158353370
>he's getting cyberbullied out of pvp
just turn off emotes and pretend the flag is a flag of friendship
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>arcane will probably be better than fire next patch

just fucking kill me senpai
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>>158353470
Yeah, I'm looking at one right now.

Try to get that 880+ without your head up several people's ass.
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>>158353572
None of these are 881.
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who is this newfag ele shaman shitposter?
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talk me out of rerolling from boomy to mage
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>>158353370
>wreck some shitter ww monk 1v1
>he guns for me whole game
>keeps dying
>spams laugh when his team's healer actually throws him a heal
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>>158353317
Vaults is the easiest dungeon for 10-15 whats wrong with you?
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>>158353830
suramar and artifact power grind
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>>158353964
They're probably easier the second time around, honestly.
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>>158353540
>All 3 Mage specs will easily be within the top 10 DPS, probably all in the top 6
>Mages actually whinging when other ranged DPS are still dogshit
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>>158354097
Shut the fuck up hunter is fine and easier/smoother to play, SP is amazing, and locks are up and coming.
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>>158354036
not that its hard, its fucking boring
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>>158353572
>>158353051
I main enhance you nerds, i was just ele for the screenshot

why the fuck would anyone willingly play elemental shaman LMAO
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>>158353830
dood ur a chicken lol flapflapflap
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>>158354097
Every range should switch to MM and any mage at this point. It's bad enough range is better for raiding mechanically, but range players are dropping like flies because of how shit Blizzard made most range players' damage. Other range specs need a boost pronto.
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your artifact is at least 900... right..?
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>>158354272
>ele shaman so btfo he pretends he's another spec
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>>158354315
nolife................................
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>>158354361
/hi5 brother
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What is Jania's problem?

http://www.strawpoll.me/11501206/r
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>>158354405
LICHED
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>>158354361
>>158354395
my dudes
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>>158354482
>>158354395
>>158354361
feels good to be on top, doesn't it?
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>>158353960
lol fuck off, Maw is the easiest on 10-15.

And since you cant Alcy bug second boss and if don't skip the first mini boss or the other 2 mini bosses it's one of the harder ones.
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Easiest M to +10?
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>check the official forums after patch notes
>theres actually people crying about the 4% thick hide nerf which will literally never be noticeable
This community never ceases to amaze me
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>>158354736
court if your healer is good
maw if not
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Why did my M+5 Horn of Valor soulbind when it's worse than both my trinkets?
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>Brewmasters are weak to magic damage since their only means of tanking is only half as effective against it
>buff their physical damage reduction and dodge

I mean, I don't know what I really expected to happen there.
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>>158354751
>outlaw gets 2% damage buff
>doesn't address rng
>doesn't address energy starvation after fatebringer nerf
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>>158354315
Kakarotzilla...
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>>158354736
Maw is by far the easiest, Small packs means you can pull 2 or more even with Bolstering, Besides the first boss ( only his dark slash ) the bosses don't hit hard making the Tyrannical Affix mean nothing, and as a final point Helya doesn't really attack besides for minor white swings meaning your healer can dps that whole fight besides the odd dispel and heal if people catch her casts.

Court on the other hand can be a cunt even with a good healer if matched with Tyrannical the only reason it is one of the easier ones is due to so many cheeses throughout the instance to cut time - Alcy on first boss,Wall glitch after first boss, triple council kill on second, Paladin tank for finding guess who in 10 seconds with 1 clue and bugging guess who mini boss with an Outlaw rogue, All these give you so much extra time to work on the bosses, However anyone thats actually ever done a CoS 10 + with Tyrannical will tell you how much of an asshole the last boss is.
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>>158355052
Class fantasy m8, specs are meant to have strengths and weaknesses

Except for the specs that are good at literally everything like guardian druid and fire mage, those just somehow happened
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What are some good edgy plate sets for a blood dk?
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Daily reminder there's NO reason to farm AP AT ALL once you've gotten your 3rd major trait until January when AK is capped.
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New to tanking. Which spec should I use for that purpose?
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>>158355369
Glorious, jade, lofty, vanguard, tyrant's, saltstone, bloodscale
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>>158355437
guardian druid
swipe
swipe
swipe
swipe
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So apparently we're going to put Illidans soul into a Naaru
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>>158355437
Whatever you find the most interesting

You're gonna be new to tanking for like a week and then you are stuck with that character, so its better to pick the one you like over the one thats easy
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>no mm hunter nerfs

meanwhile the baby mages get a slight nerf and are screaming and crying on the forums
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>>158355548
YOU ARE NOT [/spoiler] adequately ready for the situation
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What are some nice mail mogs? I can't find anything that I like much for my Shaman outside of super generic T6 or T8 or something.
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>>158355587
Why would MM need nerfs? We're very short on ranged players. Keep them where they're at and buff other range. Stop calling for the death of range, retard.
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>main ret paladin
>want a ranged dps alt
>only 2 decent ranged specs are Fire and MM hunter
Fucking hell
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>>158355381
what why
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>>158355718
Arcane is probably going to be quite good in 7.1, Frost might be tolerable as well. Shadow remains ok.
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>>158355718

:) hehe the other specs are fine bro, its just the top players playing fire mage make frost look weak hehehee
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>>158355718
Shouldnt you be used to playing shit specs since your main is a ret
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>>158355587
>have 2 characters at 110
>moonkin and hunter
>moonkin gets gutted even more while hunter remains almost the same
>vulnerability even gets a little buff although not enough to change from patient sniper

I'd play hunter if it weren't so goddamn boring.
>>
Nerf warlocks.
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>>158355836

yeah honestly, i havent seen a moonkin in my dungeons or raids for a week or two now. where are you guys?
>>
>in a 7/7h guild
>my main is the most geared character in my guild
>my alt is the 2nd most geared character
>no legendary on either
>multiple people in my guild have legendaries

thanks blizzard
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Everyone thinks I'm a girl and I'm too scared to tell them otherwise, plus it's been a while. What do I do? Why wasn't I born a girl so I could make all these people happy?
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>>158355962
>irrelevent to legendary drop rate
>irrelevent to legendary drop rate
>irrelevent to legendary drop rate
>irrelevent to legendary drop rate
>irrelevent to legendary drop rate

good blog
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>>158355901
Getting rejected from mythics. On a serious note, trinket empowerment snapshots got fixed so moonkin damage got nerfed as a result. It was already below average before so it's even worse now. The only moonkins you'll usually see are those who got the legendary helm. Those who didn't get lucky probably rerolled into resto/guardian/another class. The difference is like 40-50k with that legendary.
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>>158356054
>put more effort into not only one but two characters at the same time
>get no reward for my effort

if you don't see the problem with this then you're blind
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>>158356145
there's nothing that says you get more legendaries with more effort, there's also nothing that says you put in more effort and didn't just luck out on item level rolls, just like your guild mates lucked out on leggo drops
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>>158356145
>play two characters
>spread the bad luck protection out between two characters

basically you have two characters with an x chance to get a legendary instead of one character with a 2x chance
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>>158356224
the entire expansion is based upon how lucky you got

not how much effort you put into the game

i didn't sign up for a fucking lottery game
>>
Is there a more homosexual race than Blood Elf?
>>
>tfw you will never be Radah but that doesn't stop you trying
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>>158356296
yeah and i never saw maladath or drake fang talisman after clearing bwl all of vanilla either, shit game
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>>158356354
who
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>>158356342
Pandas
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>do a bunch of AP WQ's
>rub hands together
>sense of dread
>forgot to pick up my AK12 research note
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>>158356372
its clearly different

legendaries literally lock you out of doing things

a raid drop isn't going to change weather or not you get to do something
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>>158356485
>RNG is something new that fucks you over, only new, only happens this expansion, never been fucked by RNG, ever before
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>>158356026

I think I am in the same situation.
Never said I was a girl, but my character is and has a girly name and I've not used voice.
I might just be imagining they think I'm a girl tough. Not like they carry me or give me shit,
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>>158348528
i was neet for about a year or two, and im going to say that i could never go back to that.
i mean sure i do miss it sometimes, but all i did is smoke weed and play wow. living the same day everyday is just bad. also barely had any youtube money for drugs.
and in my opinion legion sucks so much ass its just not worth going at it in neet mode. now if this would be vanilla, tbc, or lich king i would understand no doubt.
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Anyone not excited for the new patch?

>tfw hunter
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>Pyroblast damage reduced by 9%
Literally nothing. Feels good to be a FOTM shitter
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>>158356654
>fire mage
>23 traits deep
>hate arcane
>dont want to play frost
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If fire mages get nerfed tomorrow I will not re-sub. I am having trouble pulling 300k on most fights with even the slightest bit of movement at mythic levels. Better to leave the game then be carried.
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>>158356679
>3% ST nerf
>AoE buff

Why would you play arcane or Forst?
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>>158356670
It's 6% you retard. This is also an ignite nerf.
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>>158356559
>sorry barry bonds, you're a great player, but we don't want you on our baseball team because you're black

thats literally what legion is right now
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>>158356769
post the name of every mythic guild you've been denied from because of no legendaries
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>>158356679
>barely a 3% nerf
>Fire's kit is insanely better for every fight in Nighthold except for maybe 1
So do you think about your class at all or do you just follow sims like a retard?
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>>158356985
i post inaccurate shit on here to see if the nerf was actually a big deal or not so people will correct me and give me the correct information

thanks
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>>158356985
you play fire, the most braindead spec in the game next to MM, if anybody is retarded, it's you.
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>>158357016
That's what I do sometimes. It's the only way to get a serious answer, 'cause people get butthurt enough about stupidity to correct you.
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>>158356985
The only way to get actual answers from this board is to make shit up and hope someone actually corrects you.

If you don't your post is ignored in the sea of stupid tranny avatars
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>>158356906
Most classes are dogshit until they get a dps legendary.
>>
tfw legion is extra bad, i got no clue what are we going to do with this for a whole year.
and no good private servers on sight.
gratz motherfucking blizzard for shutting down nost, otherwise i would have never payed for your dogshit expansion
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>>158356654
>ret
>they didn't change Crusade
>only changed BoW
Feelin alright
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>>158350717
>tfw you've been playing Unholy since Cata through its ups and downs
>tfw you're actually considering rolling Frost for the first time ever
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>>158357192
So you're not in, not good enough, or not applying to mythic guilds and assume they're turning down non-legendary dps? because every mythic guild i know recruits exceptional players even for their bench
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>>158357105
>answered a question
>i must play the same class as him
try again friend
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>>158357319
>hey michael jordan, you're not white, but you can sit on the bench and watch us play, maybe you can play a couple minutes :)
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>>158356769
thats nothing alike.

Being black makes you better at sports, but not having a legendary makes you worse at raiding
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>>158356759
>play foty class
>still suck

What a baby.
>>
at this point you guys will play everything blizz throws at you right?
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>>158357387
>tries to equate himself to pro level of play
>hasn't even applied to a mythic guild
>just bitching and crying about no legendary
>probably shit at the game
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>>158357016
>>158357173
>>158357191
>everyone does it
Never change, guys.
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>>158357457
I have two dps legendaries too. :^)

bracers and the ring
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>wowg
>everyone is talking about dragonslaying like they have big dicks
>complaining about other classes being "op" in pve even though you're on the same team

I never knew people actually bitches about balance in pve, it's hilarious.

How do you guys even pve? I played through all of wotlk and early cataclysm and I only raided ICC regular and like 2 wings so I could use the good pve gear for pvp and it was boring as fuck

Id much rather play rbgs, arenas, duels or world pvp

All pve is mind numingly boring to me. All you do is a rotation and like 3 mini game mechanics, it's like a QuickTime event. Why wouldn't you play a single player hack n slash game if you want to fight AI bosses so badly?
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Is 7.1 adding in a lot of world quests or something? As someone who doesn't really raid I feel like things are getting a bit scarce to do in the Broken Isles
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>>158357506
t. duelist pro
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>>158357506
>minigamer opinion
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>>158357532
It's adding a few, not a lot though.
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I'm putting up my mats at a 100 lowest reasonable undercut at a loss loss because I just want them sold before I log off and tomorrow fucks the prices
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>>158357506
>bait removal
>win in next setup
Wow. PvP is so dynamic dude.
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>>158356769
Who the fuck is barry bonds?
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>>158357506
Why would I PvP in an MMO? That just means that if I roll the worst class, I'm not getting into the top ranks, or winning that often.
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>>158357587

Ah damn that's a shame.

I have like 60 hours left on my subscription, I'm thinking of just buying a token and using it whenever 7.2 comes out.
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So why do people praise Ass as the god of all rogue specs? Are you all playing in lfr/normal?
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>>158357667
>who the fuck is barry bonds
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>>158357709
>that variation on outlaw
kek
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>>158357709
Because Sub is literally non-functional without Shadow Satyr's Walk and Outlaw is fucking terrible at everything except Sims.
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>>158357709
even a retard breaks 400k dps with ass

most people cannot with sub
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>>158357773
I'd say sub with 3 energetic stabbing relics is good enough without shadow satyr's.
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>>158357543
Not even duelist. I'm not even that good, just better than most people at pvp I guess

>>158357562
If anything pve is a minivans, it's the same rotation over and over for DPS, the bosses are predictible. All you do is aoe trash and then DPS a boss and do his 3 mechanocs. Healing is like a QuickTime minigame. I've never tanked but i assume that is almost as bad.

Then once u beat the boss all it lets you do is kill more bosses, it's boring as shit
>>
tips for not dying from trash in the arcway?
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>>158357875
>Minivans

Minigame
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>>158357941
interrupt. everything.
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>>158357875
Some of us enjoy it, the same way some of us stand still and let WPvP players kill us while spamming /sit. An MMO is a PvE game mainly. Always has been, and for the most part always will be.

>>>/CoD/
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finally got one, neat

>>158357941
don't stand in explodey spiders, interrupt at end of banshee cast, pull mobs out of arcane field thingy, don't stand in fist of heavens, interrupt eredar portal/transform, los pull the little goblin demon things, that's about it
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>>158357873
No, because Energetic Stabbing only affects how much energy refund you get, not how often. The obnoxious RNG of the spec is even worse than Outlaw, because at least Outlaw is designed in such a way that it can compensate for it.
>Enter Shadow Dance
>Have to spend nearly half your energy to refresh Symbols
>Don't get an ES proc
>Run dry for the entire dance

The spec is a travesty, it's easily one of the worst designed specs in the game at the moment. It's basically the Brewmaster of DPS.
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>>158358164
>>158358132
melee dps is suffering
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>>158358156

>an mmo is a pve game

I've literally never played it as such. Like I said I'd rather play a single player game for pve like a shitty Bethesda game or even Diablo or Assassins Creed

Wow pve is boring, since it's not an action game all you do is the same DPS rotation.
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>>158358293
why not play an actual pvp centric game like gw2 or some korean game then?
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>>158358293
I don't mind people saying wow pve is boring
But mate all you do in Assassins creed is run around and press the "kill" button. It's much, much more simplistic then wow.
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>just now realize that I have to switch to frost dk tomorrow because blizz shitting on everything as usual
>the weapon is level 1 with 0 relics

Honestly leveling it isn't even the issue but how the FUCK am I going to quickly get relics to boost it up to 890 like my unholy goddammit
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>>158348319
>do heroic for satchel because call to arms
>scrubs in my group doing 80k dps
>doing 3 times the healing of the healer as DH tank
>pulling top dps and healing
>dont give a shit, just want to get through this
>Hunter pulls 3 packs of mobs
>pop all cooldowns and live
>"if you're gonna pull all that tank keep agro"
>tell him to shut the fuck up and just let me get through this
>removed from group
>pic related
Fuck this game sometimes.
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>>158358178
>sub is the get lucky or fuck off spec
>outlaw is the "pretty good, but op if you are lucky" spec
>assassin is the "3 minutes of the 6 minute fight you are doing nothing but white damage" spec

A-at least I find outlaw fun to play somewhat..even if the damage is good, rogue is in an appalling state right now. Fuck ion, fuck metzen, fuck celestalon, fuck blizzard.
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>>158358531
Assassination is fine. If they increased the speed of it some it wouldn't be a problem. the "50% waiting" meme is overblown, it's because there's usually a small gap between using an ability and when you have enough energy for the next. Individually it's not much, but it builds up.

It's much better than the obnoxious Outlaw and Sub dry streaks where you have no energy for 5+ seconds at a time and can't do anything.

Nerf Mutilate damage by ~10% and make Venomous wounds 12 energy by default and 15 with Venom Rush and the spec is basically perfect.
>>
>get 880 titanforged boe with best stats
>dead server so might not get that much from selling
decisions decisions
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>>158358293
Then why ask players why they like the PvE? I'll give you another example of the only other PvE game I play - Dragon Age: Origins. Great story, but I liked it because of the race/class options and the gameplay. WoW PvE has great gameplay. It could be better, like reverting some classes back (*cough* warlocks), but it's the only other PvE game I'll play.

On the other hand, I won't touch PvP here. I'll do a shooter, or a fighting game, or even two-player puzzle games. I won't touch PvP in a
"choose comp and win" environment. It's stupid.
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>he doesn't have all the first part suramar questlines done in time for 7.1
ayy l mao have fun while i enjoy my mount
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>waiting for ephemeral crystals to spawn for 6 hours
>disconnected
>cant log back in
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>>158358726
Rogue is all around OP as it is and needs further nerfs.
>inb4 git gud
I get killed by rogues in a kidney shot or between the eyes, if I trinket either of those there is just another stun waiting and I'll die in that
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>>158359067
blz51903006 error?
>>
WHAT THE FUCK IS WRONG WITH LOGIN SERVERS

SHIT
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>>158359043
>people can't just up to a 9 week gated questline
>mount requires Nighthold
bien meme
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>>158359067
>not having this hippo in 2016
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Can anyone else not log in right now? I keep getting disconnected at "Logging into Game Server"
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>>158358745
>I won't touch PvP in a "choose comp and win" environment. It's stupid.
The thing is, you and everyone else like you wouldn't get Gladiator even if you chose the most fotm comp
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>>158359141
Nobody gives a fuck about your stupid minigame faggot.
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We were on the final boss in EOA with 6 minutes left on fucking M+11, and OF COURSE THE SERVERS SHIT THE BED! I'm beyond pissed and it warms my heart that my key has now been wasted and Blizz wont care one lil' bit. FUCK!!!
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>>158353681

TFW I'm friends with meimei in game. Good lad. Good ele sham
>>
>>158359185
Came to this thread to see if anyone else is getting issues. I am and from the looks of it from other sites there's definitely been issues.
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>>158359292
cry more faggot
>>
Was maintenance going to start this early?
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>>158359159
>>158359185
I'm having the same problem

Somethings up
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>tfw to intelligent to pvp
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>>158359293
how much does he suffer
>>
>"Character not found"
>all your alts get sanic's shitty legendary ring
>witch hats not mog-able
>arms warriors are phun to play :^)
>pls play ashran pls pls pls
>no naga race or legacy servers ever
>"Character not found"
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>>158359292
>Mythic+ players loses run due to server issues
>Next at 11, Timmy wants Alliance to stop ganking him in PvP servers
>>
Yep, login servers are fugged all around, I can't even get onto Overwatch.
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>>158359398
No, fury needs fundamental changes and not bandaid damage buffs. If you take 20% more damage then you should be able to output the DPS to match that draw back.
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Will fury be competitive now?
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>>158359506
no
>>
>finally get healer for mythic+
>servers go down

thanks blizz. hope this is the patch
>>
>>158359506
i predict it will be 8% more competitive
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>>158359506
no, see >>158359485
The class is just poorly designed. The artifact traits are pure GARBAGE and no matter what stats they pad it'll always be worse because of that.
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>yfw at some point rastakhan become the new darkspears leader
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>>158359506
After getting that Warlock treatment, maybe.
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>>158359518
>servers go down
>still in game
>europoors btfo
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>>158359410
>>arms warriors are phun to play :^)
Arms warrior here, they aren't
During battle cry, bladestorm, or when you're getting really lucky? Sure. Outside of that with shit luck? Not fucking fun in the slightest. Aoe with zero cooldowns? Have fun being beaten by the tank.
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>>158359141
>play frost Mage
>rogue opens with garrote
>walk forward until the silence is done
>nova after silence
>keep walking forward
>now down to 70%hp
>break nova with frost bolt
>jumped on again
>kidney shot
>trinket kidney shot
>blink
>get a sheep off
>rogue still at 100%
>frostbolt/ring
>vanish
>rogue opens again
>I'm down to 40% by the time 2nd garrote is finished
>use my 2nd blink
>cloak of shadows
>iceblock until cloak is finished
>Kidney shot
>sit in a 5 second stun until I die
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>end of expansion
>fury busting through meters
>ahead of everyone
>everyone else crying

i can see it, my future is bright
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>>158359568
>yfw at some point tess greymane becomes the new gilnean leader
>>
>open group finder
>find world boss group
>860 tank so invited right away
>don't do shit whole fight
>boss gets to 10%
>taunt away from every
>go all the way out of range
>boss resets
>get kicked
>repeat
So funny watching all the people get so mad.
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>>158359184
i also watch our boys videos
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>Fire
>Pyroblast damage reduced by 6%.

Well go fuck yourself
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>>158359653
>using lonely winter

uhhh dotards?
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>>158359684
LOL thats funny bro, i did that kind of stuff when i was 13 to!! you should post your btag so we could do epic stuff for the lolz and i can put it on youtube
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>>158359684
>literally just wasting time
So kewl dude, epic troll for the win! ekks dee
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anyone know if the hippogryph crystal respawn is less than 24 hours
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Good morning /wowg/!
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>>158359729
>freeze
>get a frostbolt shatter off
>at 30%hp
>rogue at 80%
>rogue touches you and you die
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>>158359808
Good morning Gnome friend!
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>>158348319
>people on darkspear literally complaining that gm's wont ban people for killing them in contested zones
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>>158359808
good morning '^'
>>
Post armories lads
Link related, it's mine
http://us.battle.net/wow/en/character/illidan/Goczz/advanced
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>>158351335
actually it is the same.
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>>158359808
>>158359895
show butt
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>>158359959
http://us.battle.net/wow/en/character/madoran/Palanar/simple
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>Solotank world boss
>Realize Calamir is more interesting than entire EN
W-wew lads
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>>158359959
Im sure that's you lad
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>>158358726
Do you know what the best relic is for the ass poison build? Is it still rupture damage?
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>>158360024
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>>158359787
i have yet to see it up at any time of day.
and there are so many autistic mount hunters trying to get that shit, it makes it almost not worth it at all
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>>158359787
Nope, 24 hour minimum spawn time. Maintenance days are blocked off for farming.
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>>158360051
3x vendetta relic meme
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>>158360051
Rupture damage is the best all-round relics because they work for all playstyles. Vendetta CD reductions are technically best for poison, but they're trash for Exsang so I don't bother with them.
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>>158359684
>worthless tanks things they are funny taunting away the boss
>taunt it right back
>keep agro because not shitter
must suck when you are so bad at the game you can't troll with one button push
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i'm ready boys
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>>158359707
Wow my dude a whole 6%, how ever will you survive? Seriously all of you fotm fire mages need to be taken down a fucking peg if you're that upset over the smallest nerfs Ive ever seen for a class as broken as yours. AND TO TOP IT ALL OFF, your other two specs are getting buffed? Oh shit dude, better reroll now you're getting super gutted tomorrow. Kill yourself my dude, just walk right off the next fucking bridge you see. Guaranteed legendary is at the bottom.
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>>158360080
You want the hookup on all the known spawnpoints in the game? I've compiled over 103 known spawn points.
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>>158360147
You have made a horrible mistake. I hope you have friends or a guild that will take you places, because if you're pugging I can 100% guarantee you are not getting into any runs.
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>>158360151
That's a whole 6%, I'm unsubbing as we speak
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>>158360054
Says a clear autistic mount hunter who just hasn't found the mount yet.
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>>158359895
>>158359929
Good morning friendos!
Brb while I fix my looks!
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is she fucked ?
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>>158360274
That looks like you got splashed with acid, excellent.
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>>158359684
kill yourself you fucking loser

nobody likes you in-game or out and you know it
>>
>Players must get attuned to Karazhan before they can run it. The questline starts from Archmage Khadgar in Dalaran and has you defeat God-King Skovald in Halls of Valor on Mythic difficulty.
SKOBALD!
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>>158360297
Nah, Vol'jin was like "u destined for greatness mon *farts and dies*"
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>>158360265
>knowing what a waste of time is vs not is considered autistic
bet you think waiting for weeks camping a spot is worth it for a brown proto-drake
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>>158360052
more
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>>158360297
It's just one she missed.
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>>158360328
HoV then BRH, Vault and Violet Hold. All Mythic.

Can't wait for the tears.
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>>158360297
>dude spends years trying to get revenge for his son
>his best plan is to run directly at her
No
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>>158357709
Because ass melts people in PvP?
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>>158360297
>Alliance has her cornered
>Forsaken destroy the airship
everytime
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>>158360408
people still run mythics?
they haven't started running +5 casually?
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>>158360375
>>
*fel rushes behind u*
I'VE SACRIFICED EVERYTHING, WHAT HAVE YOU GIVEN
*vengeful retreats off the map*
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>>158360452
i still don't get why the forsaken don't see they are mind controlled in every way?
it's gotten so bad that even the players who play the dumbass forsaken are blind to it.
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>>158360452
>has her cornered
she didn't even use her shadow clone jutsu, goin' easy on them little alliance bitches cuz we need them for the legion
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>>158360297
she didn't even seem to care afterwards. the real question is why she didn't shoot him there
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>>158360467
>see demon hunter coming at me
>they pop demon form and proceed to try to burn me
>stun them
>burst them down in a few seconds
>laugh at their dead body
>>
>already got the best (and only good) outlaw specific legendary
>want to set lootspec to sub because all assassination legendaries suck and the sub ones are alright (with shadow satyr being borderline broken)
>want to also set to assassination so I can get good relics

What the fuck do. I'll literally kill myself if I get an assassin legendary.
>>
>In Patch 7.1, the leveling ability flow has changed once again. Players have fewer abilities at very low levels.
Gee thnaks blizz it's not like I had 2 spells on my bar for majority of leveling anyway
>>
>>158360521
>don't see they are mind controlled
lol
>>
>>158349437

just quit, wow isn't ever going to be good again. maybe resub around xmas and play or in the summer or when a patch hits but whats the point
>>
>>158352880

no pics man really?
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>>158348319
Who's that nigga on the left?
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>>158360534
>horde go into invasion
>cairne immediatly complains that his knees are hurting and he cant go on
>voljin literally just lets himself get stabbed so they can leave
>alliance literally watches one of their greatest heros be burned alive infront of them
>no one complains
>leader even sacrifices himself to ensure a good get away
I'm no alliance player, but fuck horde right there
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>>158352880
>RP realms
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>>158360839
>cairne
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>>158360802
lorthemar
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>watching reckful eat sushi
>he googles one of the fish he's eating and click an image
>the google image thing that pops up is for "/ck/ - food & cooking" in warosu's archive
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>>158360839
you forgot
>genn "the cowardly bitch" greymane doesn't even save varian and sacrifice himself
>just lols at his suicide note and says ok bye
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>>158360908
no
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>>158360598
Sylvanas is smart and looks at the big picture. Has she killed Genn right there, Furfags would be even more triggered than usual, the Alliance would be pretty mad for losing another faction leader and overall it would just escalate Horde/Alliance tensions even more (even though it was Gilneas that attacked them first and was in the wrong) at a time when we have to be fighting the Burning Legion
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Why is Isle of Conquest so popular? Do the Horde really enjoy playing with a 20%~ winrate?
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>>158361120
>sylvanas looks at the big picture
>captures a needed ally from the broken isles completely destroying relations with the valajar
>makes deals with the devil while having no regard with her citizens
>"i do it for horde, don't you see" as she goes against all advisement causing more problems
she might as well just try to steal the lich kings helm because that is what she is.
>>
>>158361239
Someone probably hates strand more
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>>158360947
He seems a lot happier since he left WoW and is learning a new game for himself.
>>
mage dk or ww for pve
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hate this game
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>>158361259
>look at the big picture
>her plans are always literraly : BOMB THEM WITH PLAGUE
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Mathed out the changes to your class yet? Are you looking forward to them?
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Convince me not to go out and buy more alcohol
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>>158361357
what's retarded is that the demons built the fucking plague.

it will literally do fucking nothing
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>>158361296
you mean now that his made up drama got his viewer count back up and he's making money off autists again
>>
>>158361360
lol nerd
>>
>>158361360
My Frost DK just hit 110 and started doing world quests with him.

Love to play the class. But I also have a Fury Warrior that I love so I'm having mixed feelings here. Think I will stick to War since their buffs seem great.
>>
>>158361360
My spec got a timer for a cooldown added to the default UI and nothing else. So I think I'm good to go.
>>
>>158361259
>destroying relations with the valajar
>
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>>158361259
>>158361357
>stupid fucks didn't even hear vol'jin say she was destined for greatness
>even foretold there'd be dumb fucks like you niggas who don't understand her greatness
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>>158361393
>it will literally do fucking nothing
retard.
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>>158360452
It's poorly shown and got lost in-between all the Vrykul stuff but it was a mutual loss. Genn defeats Blightcaller but Skyfire goes down. The Windrunner flagship gets destroyed. Genn is out of commission for a bit while Sylvanas' trinket gets broken. All of their efforts and resources that could have been used against the Legion are wasted while the Legion is at the doorstep.

In short, the Forsaken and furfag factions are a mistake. Shit, even the faction composed of Suramar drug addicts are better when it comes to facing the Legion.
>>
>>158361487
>da spirits mon
>dey speak of greatness
yes the old gods sure had great plans.
>>
>>158361360
>50% DC Buff = 2% ST Increase
No, I am not.
>>
Bolvar is going to get out of control and we'll end up replacing him with Sylvy in the Northrend remake expansion
>>
>>158361360
>crystal swords
what is this? does it make your swords turn to ice?
i've never heard of this ability before and if it does i might switch my main to dk
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>>158361357
>bomb them with plague

if theres something i hate about the forsaken its that
fuck the plague bombs , they destroy the land and kill innocents without care , forsakens just ruin every part of land they touch
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>there are furfags who play pandaren/worgen in this very thread
>there are people who started playing after bc in this very thread
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>>158361603
>literally nukes
>sylvanas is mother russia
>>
>>158361603
but dey dying don't you care?
dey dindu noffin, dey gud boy

while they continue to build more scourge like buildings and weapons
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>>158361603
>muh innocents in a video game
hello paladin roleplayer
>>
>>158361583
No it's just a worse version of Frost mage Icicles.
>>
>Guy A starts a fight with Guy B at the bar.
>Guy A gets his ass thoroughly kicked.
>Guy A comes back and knocks Guy B's drink out of his hand and runs away.

Stormheim in a nutshell desu.
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>>158361671
>build more scourge like buildings
what
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>>158361712
>destroying the Hillsbrad Foothills was ok

hello forsaken player
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>>158359895
>>158359929
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>fury is fun
>arms is boring
>arms is better than fury
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>>158361803
>destroying
>two little areas which are being cleaned up
shut hippie
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>>158361893
>Literally a 10k DPS difference
>You're too much of a shitter for that to matter at all anyway
>>
>>158361893
>fury is fun

I don't know why but I can't find any fun in this spec. Arms is even less fun with focused rage build.

Why did they have to fuck with Arms so bad
>>
>>158361259
Odyn does jack shit anyways. Who cares is she tried to enslave one of his slaves? He didn't really give a fuck anyways.
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>>158361712
>>158361803
>>158361925

also i guess this place was ok in your book ? the forsakens are the worst factions in lore admit it
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>>158361357
>>158361603
>using weapons in war is bad
Hello liberal
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>>158361969
you mean coolest

stay assmad autismo
>>
>>158362073
no , using plague bombs is bad
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>>158362089
so is melting people with fireballs. malygos did nothing wrong
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>>158361946
Everyone in beta was like "Nooooooooooooooo" about Focused Rage. They didn't give a shit.
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>>158361893
The only fun kind of warrior is the one that tanks shit.
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What's the best transmog for a dk? And why is it Tier 8?
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>>158361969
>traitor does crazy shit
>gets killed
>reported to sylvanas herself
?
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>>158362073
The plague and the Lich King were unquestionable evil in the lore, and Sylvanas somehow pretends that it is good.

It won't do ANYTHING against sargeras and the legion btw, but Forsaken always end using it on the Alliance anyway.
>>
>doing heroic for bonus bag
>one of the DPS is getting hit by every mechanic, doing no interrupts (they were a class that had one), and doing the lowest DPS
>get a titanforged piece of gear for their spec so inspect them to see if they need it
>all their shit is 860 - 870, mostly Titanforged and they are wearing two Legendary items that are both class specific
>None of their gear has any Mythic or Mythic+ tags

why do the worst players always have the best RNG?
>>
>worgen breast too big
>have to use mod to make them smaller
no other race will ever have this feelio
>>
The entire Alliance/Horde forces would have been wiped out and raised as an army of the dead if the Forsaken didn't use their plague at the Wrathgate.
>>
>>158362278
>It won't do ANYTHING against sargeras and the legion btw,
source: nothing
>>
Everyone knows Jaina went back to Kul'tiras to get them to rebel against the faction ceasefire and start trying to help the Gilnean resistance take back Englan-I mean Gilneas.
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>>158359184
same
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>>158362214
That's not the saronite set
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>>158362396
The Legion created it, but let's pretend that demons can get plagued and killed, it still is useless, those fuckers come back unless somehow you throw it in their dimension
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>>158362278
Poisons and diseases work on all demons m8.
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>>158362408
>go back to kul'tiras
>the island is somewhere in the middle of buttfucknowhere sea
>every peoples we see of kul'tiras are either slaves or dead
>population in lore before they dissapear was 10.000

they gonna get fucked

yeah im sure this will work fine
>>
>>158362458
>The Legion created it,
that doesn't mean every demon is immune to it retard, and the plague was already used effectively against demons in hillsbrad
>>
>>158362458
>hijack Legion ship during the battle for Karazhan
>reroute portals
>pour blight in the portal
>acid rain on Argus
>>
>>158361803
>Destroying the Alliance presence in Hillsbrad midwar is bad.
lol.

>>158361969
Stillwater was a literal traitor, killing his own people and doing all that shit behind Sylvanas' back. You and other Forsaken actually shut his operation down and bring him to justice.

>>158362089
It's literally just an acid bomb you cry baby. I don't see you bitching about napalm that the Alliance uses, Warlock spells, DK spells, magic in general, rogue poisons, etc.

>>158362278
The Scourge Plague turned you into a mindless zombie. Forsaken Plague just melts you. Key difference.
>>
>Arcane Charges now increase mana costs by 125% (was 100%)

Kinda pissed. Now I have to actually practice the conserve phase rotation.
>>
Should I drop my fury warrior for a ww fempan?
>>
>>158361647
you realize majority of this thread is a cataclysm or mop babie? it disgusts me too but thats just how it is. they got hooked on the game in the worst expansions
>>
>>158362605
Despite that Arcane looks like the best spec for next patch I still feel fire to be more fun though
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>>158362278
>Forsaken always end using it on the Alliance anyway.

You're implying this is bad?
>>
>>158362637
Implying anyone started with Cataclysm
>>
>>158362624
>should i drop a shitty spec for an amazing, fun spec
hmmmmmmmmmmmm
>>
whoever designed focused rage needs to be taken out back and shot
>>
>>158362423
same
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>>158362698
b-but muh aesthetics
>>
Why were the night borne able to stop demons dead in their tracks using a force-field from the night-well for 10,000 years, but the high elves couldn't stop a much weaker undead army with the power of the much stronger sun-well?
>>
>>158362842
I still do my garrison missions and Tanaan Jungle dailies every day!
>>
>>158362842
hahahaha.
>>
>>158362842
Rot in heck
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>>158362856
>much stronger

lel
>>
>>158362856
Arthas didn't come knocking on the Nightwell
>>
>>158362842
Wouldn't mind going back, I've made a mistake not leveling all classes on another faction. No way I am going all the way in Legion.
>>
>>158362842

>Warlords of Facebook Games

It's going to take the total collapse of the internet for me to miss you.
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>need 7 roses for a flask and 2 for a potion
>blood vendor trades them in 3s
Has this shit been designed by the same faggot who does all the cancerous chinese freemium game shops?
>>
>>158363004
so just buy 18 at a time damn son can't u find denominators
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>WW monk
>Read patch notes
>nothing changed except CJL
>Still 1st/2nd in DPS

K.
>>
>>158362896
don't you want to go back to your comfy garrison?
>>
>>158363151
No fuck that. Not only is it stupid when all the other herbs come in nice stacks of 10, but 3 roses are not worth one blood. I'll just buy them for like 7g a piece on launch when everybody will be dumping their converted bloods onto the AH.
>>
>>158362813
incredible
>>
>>158352591
>Frost is easier with less rng though
In what way? I've actually never played frost. UH isn't that complicated just build up stacks and pop em. Though the RNG is pretty bullshit I will agree.
>>
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>>
Should I buy a WoW tanktop for the gym desu

It's fairly subtle, just the Alliance crest. Nothing gawdy. I'm big enough to pull it off.
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>>158363285
Absolutely not. Go home, you're drunk
>>
>>158363381
>playing a shitty class/spec
you only have yourself to blame
>>
>>158348319
>do +2 run on dh for herb quest in NL
>cant loot it in M+
fuck you blizzard.
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>>158363470
What's wrong with this?
>>
>>158363502
>have to run normal VoW for enchanting formula
that's fucking retarded as hell
>>
>>158363535
The race, for sure.
>>
>qq garrisons are bad because I can't afk for gold any more

literally salty cuck tears
>>
>>158363436
garrison more like
bearrison
hoho
>>
>>158363535
your a man maining a female character
when you apply for groups it actually says that in the discription
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>>158363535
>861
>tried to apply to 865-870 groups
>wat wrong?
>>
is there a single fucking bandaid or health potion in this shit expansion?
>>
>>158363692
eat fighters chow
there is no need for health shit
>>
>>158363343
With the build that's parsing highest for ST, all your priority is Maintain Icy Talons through frost strike at less than 2 seconds duration or before disconnect>obliterate spam to one or less runes>>>>>>>>Rime proced Howling Blast>Remorsless Winter>Glacial Advance

Build is Icy Talons, Frozen Pulse, Avalanche, Runic Attenuation, and Glacial Advance.

Literally all you do is oblit spam and make sure icy talons is up. Frozen Pulse and AAs do most of your damage, the rest is filler. It hyperscales on haste and mastery and will get dramatically better as gear improves.
>>
>Assassination Rogues don't use Hemorrhage or Exsanguinate anymore

When I was leveling this character those were some of the best parts. Hemorrhage rounded out the DoT count and reduced down time, and Exsanguinate was very rewarding to use at the right time.
Now it's two passive abilities?
Guess I won't get this Rogue to 110 after all.
>>
>>158363692
ancient health potion, silkweave splint, that engineer healthpack injector, and fighter's chow as mentioned above.
>>
>Put all my AP into Destruction because it's best for mythic groups
>Put all the AP I get from mythic groups into Demonology because it's best for raiding
>Now affliction gets buffed to be better than both

Thanks Blizzard :^)
>>
I play with one of my friends almost exclusively and we do every mythic and every EN LFR/Normal/Heroic together

He's gotten 3 legendaries so far and I've gotten none

What's going on here?
>>
>>158361783
P much. I used to sympathize with a lot of Alliance players criticizing Horde / Forsaken actions, but seeing so many of them defend the Gilneans in Stormheim kind of shits all over their credibility. Genn is literally sabotaging a war effort against a world ending threat, and their justification is "but she killed his son in cata!".

Also, while I will grant that Genn destroying the lantern was probably a good thing, let's be clear that it happened completely by chance. He went into that room to kill her, he had no idea what the fuck was going on until then.
>>
>>158363906
Could be worse, they could have just kicked you down the ladder right before raids opened like Outlaw
>>
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Made 30k sniping today during my spare time
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>>158364067
what is even the point of gold now?
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>>158364225
It's for my sub tokens
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>>158364225
Gametime
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>>158364225
2 millions for the anus mount
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>>158363752
cannot solo baghar tiger
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>>158364279
so it's to give to other players?
what do they need gold for?
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>>158364324
I have 4 close friends who I pay for.
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>>158364279
how come a dumb tranny like you doesn't have a sugar daddy?
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>>158364371
again, what do the retards that sell the tokens need gold for?

are they literally so bad at the game they can't afford the basic mount training?
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>>158364478
They only PvP.
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>>158364478
Consumables, alts (enchantments etc), carries through content..
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>ass rogue tries to jump my outlaw rogue farming leathers
>JORACH RAVENHOLDT RKO OUTTA NOWHERE OH NO HE KNOCKED HIS HEAD OFF
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>>158364478
Some of us have jobs that allow us to pay for things that we like with real money instead of sitting on our ass all day like yourself farming fantasy money.

Hit the gym
Have sex
Get a clue
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>>158363816
holy shit if theres no auction house in dalaran
where the fuck do you get potions/bandages
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>Seeing /v/ talk about WoW
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>>158364478
people probably do it for heirlooms if theyre new.
they probably thing that leveling isnt a ridiculous grind if they have them
theyre wrong
>>
How difficult is heroic Xavius in a pug?
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>>158364582
>this retard buys bandages that literally any character can craft
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>>158364582
get them made for you, they only take 4 yseraline seeds.the bandages aren't really worth making desu, leystone ore and 5 cloth.
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>>158364679
literally the worst on to pug for except for maybe cenarius
>>
Just be honest guys
How many of actually wouldn't try sticking it into that spider butt?
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>>158364580
it takes literally 2 days of normal dailies to get the gold for mount training and everything that comes with it
even get the mammoth repair mount

assuming an ultra casual tard can get enough gold from playing the game over 2 weeks playing 1 hour a day to get everything.
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>>158364679
>"take the blades out of the group"
>blades fuck up the group 20 times
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>>158364679
Zakuun 2.0
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>>158355082
>blizzard
>ever
>fucking ever addressing core problems instead of just changing some random numbers
Frost DK gonna be shit again in two months maximum.
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>>158364771
It's almost like blades is a shitty mechanic to begin with
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>feel like leveling a mage
>heirlooms arent upgraded
>cant really buy a boost because getting new shoes this weekend
Thanks for reading my blog
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I have only played one class since vanilla and that is shaman

convince me to roll an alt class
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>>158364921
>getting new shoes
What are you, a woman?
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>>158364954
You don't because Ench and Resto are good
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>tfw boomkin
should i just reroll mage?
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>>158364996
no he's black
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>>158364921
level a warlock instead
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>>158365047
>black
>buying
>>158364954
why switch now? shamans cool
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>>158365013
you are either from illidan or ragnaros
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>>158364996
But shoes are nice, anon.

>>158365052
I think I have level 90+ lock on some server, are they good now? I don't really raid, and I don't wanna get decline in M+ dungs
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>>158365013
Become a hunter.

You're like a mage but squishier and suck a lot in PvP.
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>>158365151
but you can have a demon as a pet so you are technically a better warlock
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l1Bp-aHv2iQ
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Can anyone post the huntard surv buffs I'm a big retard
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>>158348319
>see the priestesses are locked in battle and helping their battle torn sisters
>hey, you know that silk you're using as bandages to save lives, can i just take it?
>"have a little dont take too much"
>take the whole roll
>Offer no help
>ask them if they know a good tailor
This alchemy quest makes me feel like a douchebag
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>>158365242
Last I checked we're only PvE heroes because they put all our utility on the worst spec in the game.
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>>158364279
hey cutie anime girl add me please
icy#1568
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>hide belt transmog coming tomorrow
who /2hot2handle/ here?
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>>158365375
Nice try Icy.
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>>158365402
She's mine I saw her first, back the heck off?
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>>158365438
>Implying I'd want a 3dpd
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>>158365438
You think I give a darn?
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am i fucked playing demonology?
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tfw Quin just got this
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>made 42 cloth belts
>not a single fucking Impatient pure Haste one

IM FUCKING DONE.

FUCK THIS SHITTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTT REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>158365384
>not having spaghetti string belt to make your hips look sexier
i pity you.
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>>158365384
>hide belt
finally, fucking thing keeps clipping everything
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>>158365582
Depends if you can handle the rotation.
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>>158365329
It's okay you just sell them some healing pots for the low low price of 2k each.
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>>158365506
But I'm 2D? See?
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>>158356145
But you dis get rewarded, you just said you're the most geared guy in your guild.
>>
so if i do a depleted keystone will i get that loot from the chest tomorrow?
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>>158365769
maybe
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>>158365598
"We feel that having a chance for your profession to give you gear with varying stats, even if it's not what you wanted, makes for more exciting and interesting gameplay." -- Eijon Fuzzykoalas and Holongo, lead designers for Brizzard.
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>>158365662
kek
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>>158357105
There are far more specs that are easier to play in order to mantain a good dps/tps than fire mage, m8. For starters, 2 (if not all 3) of the dk specs.
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>>158365321
>playing survival
>encouraging Blizzard devs to continue their retarded decision making

Just remove survival imho.
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>>158365384
Lame. DKs had that all this time and now it's not ours exclusive
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What will do more damage against him xavious?

BM or MM hunter ?
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>>158365991
but Survival is reverting to its early beta WoW design
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>>158363906
>Put my AP into affliction because fuck blizzard I have always played affliction
>Now affliction gets buffed to be better than both
What the fuck? This wasn't supposed to happen! Things I like are never buffed!

WHAT DO I DO NOW? How do people handle fotm shitters playing what they like?
>>
what option do I have to enable to get scrolling buffs and procs to appear like in big dick asmongolds videos i wanna know when i proc my shit
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>>158366063
There's a reason it didn't make it out of beta.

Also, taking all the utility and putting it in one spec is dumb as shit.
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>>158358507
anon, you do realize if you're a tank you can just wait like 3 min and leave and reque for a better group.
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>>158365627
I have the rotation down fine i should have specified i mean in PvP...

Raiding is fine my single target is crazy
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>>158366148
>enable: teeth
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>>158360297

Based Glenn " chew on a bone " Greymane.
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>>158366446
>Glenn

basic allytard
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>>158363264
they just wanted people to stop cheesing hit combo during bloodlust and to make it not as good for keeping hit combo up when out of range of the boss like on elerethe

kind of a dick move removing interesting skilled fringe parts of a class's dps, but I don't think it's a big deal, even though using it in the first place just meant you were trying to fix yourself after you fucked up
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>>158366541

>he doesnt know the Glenn meme

kid you might wanna read some more knowyourmeme before you play with the big boys
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>>158366239
Call to arms was over when they kicked me so i couldnt reque for satchel.
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>>158363304
did you ever consider that it might also be stupid that other herbs harvest in sets of 4-12 at rank 3 with occasional bonus procs of 10-20 (30-40 for foxflower) while roses harvest at 1 per harvest and proc for 4-6 extra?
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>Prot paladins in 7.1 with two avengers shield legendaries and first avenger talent
>Even without them just pick grand crusader and have 100% SotR uptime in any M+ content WHILE also having Seraphim
How is this even legal?
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>>158366601
why was this so funny.
>>158366672
the fox flower bonus's are nice, theyre a bitch to find for some reason
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>i tank
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>>158366050
MM will do more damage everywhere but pure single target (unless your wep ilvl is under 880 or so) or very tightly stacked aoe where beast cleave and stampede pull like 3M dps in 3 chest M+ runs

tl;dr: mm
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>>158366829
errr meant to say unless your mm wep is over 880, mm for single target, mm scales really well with weapon damage
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>>158366829
>not having both at the ready and using BM when teeming is in effect
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>>158366784
>I deliberately not choose to play wow on easy mode
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>>158366672
>wah wah why are rare materials rare

is this your first mmo
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>>158366784
>I pway Pwot Pawadin
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>>158366784
That shirt is great.
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>>158366924
that's not dps
even ragnaros retards know how to dps and they are as brain dead as they come
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>>158366672
r u even an herbalist? some rank 2/3's don't even increase harvest yield.
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>tfw to intelligent to play melee dps
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Is it a good time to roll a survival hunter?
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>>158366934
no, I was just trying to explain that roses are supposed to be harder to get very sarcastically in response to his comment about the blood to rose purchase ratio
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>>158367048
>tfw I am a masochist and main outlaw and uh dk
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Which class lets me 「 F L Y I N T O F R E E 」?
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>log on ptr
>the class hall mission to unlock karazhan isn't guaranteed to appear
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>>158367214
Sub Rogue, Fury Warrior
Do take note that they're both ass
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>>158367049
>Not a word about bugfixes
Nope
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>>158348319
>mythic eye of azshara +0
>ilvl requirement 860
This shit triggers me so hard.
>inb4 scrub
i have 861, these groups are just fucking greedy, how the fuck will new people ever get gear
>>
>tfw want to play WW but dont plan on healing/tanking so I'm screwed if WW sucks later
what's a fun alternative that has at least 2 DPS specs?
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>>158367049
>100% damage buff to a move that's so bad they still won't be using it because flanking strike is a better focus buff and some other buffs to other low damge moves

no, but at least they're better than ele tier now

>>158367042
I mean I could've listed out the drop rate of every herb but I'm not going to because I only have terminal autism, not furfag autism, so I just gave a a quick set of large ranges
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>>158367378
>860 hunter
>get declined to FUCKING MAW+2
I DO BAJILLIONS OF DAMAGE YOU DAMN RETARDS
REEEEEEEEEE
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>>158367378
Carries!

Why do you think people buy Tokens :^)
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>>158367495
>dps cucks think they're important
>like i don't have a list of 50 dps whispering achieves and 10-15 ilvls higher scrambling to join my groups
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>>158367568
Don't think you have any 875s "scrambling" to join your Maw+2, no
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>>158367621
yeah, because i run +5-10's

the point is there's better dps than you applying and you didn't make the cut shitter
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>>158367394
most lock specs are getting kind of fun again, blizz is having trouble finding an identity for it ever since they removed the idea of all lock specs being based on reacting to trinket procs and openers that made properly using readiness as a hunter seem basic

hunters are a bit dry right now but god damn are they effective, hell they'd be interesting if a lot of their most boring talents werent the highest dps ones

mages are broken and getting more broken every patch becasue of blizz's new 'dont want players to feel like they invested in the wrong class/spec meme' means that it was wrong to not roll a mage, but as a mage you must complain that you are the worst spec ever because you don't have the surrender 2 madness meme to avoid nerfs

rogues will never be bad unless cloak is deleted from the game

warriors and dks randomly lose and gain damage on a biweekly basis this xpac so far

playing druid dps is a good way to end up hating yourself because there will always be issues with drood aoe
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Why are there no alternate sitting poses? Blood Elf Female needs a kneeling pose like Human Female.
>>
>>158367669
So, basically everything you said was totally irrelevant. Gotcha.

>I have higher ilvl DPS joining my higher level M+, this means lower M+ will refuse you!
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>>158367678
>lock specs fun

That's bullshit but I want to believe it.
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>>158367678
you forgot shamans
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>>158367805
have you tried /kneel?
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>>158367842
That's not a kneeling sit, it's just a one knee thing.
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>>158367847
playing a shitty card game for starters
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Why aren't they nerfing ENH shamans? They're nasty af
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>>158367836
shamans only have 1 dps spec anon

>>158367820
new afflic is actually decently fun, especially stuff like phantom singularity

new demo feels rewarding, but not my cup of tea

destro needs to be nuked from orbit and completely rebuilt
>>
>>158367805
you say that like the fhum kneeling pose is an alternate in the first place and not the default
>>
>yfw Blood elves have been raped by the Scourge
>Raped by trolls
>Raped by humans
>Raped by demons
>Raped by the Highborn

That's real hot
>>
>>158367819
you're not the sharpest crayon in the swimming pool, are ya? anyone right now could make a group and get doooozens of higher ilvl dps. you're the one crying about getting declined faggot. you think it happens on accident?
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>>158367930
No, I don't. I'm sure they could expand it across several races to have multiple sitting poses. It's just an example.
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>>158367895
What are you talking about anon? there's no post about card games in this thread. :^)
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>>158367960
I'm not that anon, but at least you're sticking to topics you're familiar with; crayons.
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>>158367805
Sure once blizz puts effort into making weapon casting animations.
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>>158367928
>Using phantom singularity over soul conduit

que
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>>158368006
>>
>>158368006
>>158368070
>dps cucks still btfo
>still getting declined
>>
>"""dps main"""
>doesnt main a mage/hunter
Alrighty
>>
is tradechat the hottest wow female?
>>
>>158367928
>afliction fun

Yeah RNG combo points is fun, I guess.
>>
>join +5 as healer
>bunch of desperate dps cucks doing mediocre damage to trash mobs
>bounce out during first boss pull
what a bunch of shitters
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>>158367805
If they can't get their cosmetic hats policy cleared then don't expect any alternate animations.
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>Ritual of Doom group in the group finder
>closes when it gets 3 people
>doesn't accept low levels even though the boss scales down
>>
what do people see in enhance that makes it so fun? i don't understand
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>>158368251
>Apparently it would be "too silly"
>Meanwhile Blizzard allows people to slutmog
Blizzard really does hate fun.
>>
>>158368452
big dick dps for no effort
>>
>>158368452
Lightnings everywhere.
>>
>>158368470
>slutmogs are all 2004 PS2 graphics
>metzen went full SJW
>several slutmogs were nerfed around cata without a word
>blood elf model update from preview to ptr/live got bigger panties without a word
>even anons push their puritanical values on the game
>asians have no trouble making slutty armor and buxom women

At least OverWatch devs aren't so retarded
>>
WHEN IS THIS FUCKING ZG TIGER GOING TO FUCKING DROP

IM DOING IT 5 TIMES A DAY ON MY ALTS FOR A FUCKING MONTH AND JUST NEED A COOL MOUNT FOR HORDE

HOLY FUCK
>>
>>158368712
psssst, it was removed from the game
>>
>>158368654
>asians have no trouble making slutty armor and buxom women

Yes, those """""""18"""""" year old women that happen to be 2'5, speak in a very high pitch and seem to be underdeveloped for their age physically and mentally.
>>
>>158368654
you do know that Overwatch was Metzen's baby, right
>>
>>158368654
>slutmogs nerfed

wat

Which ones?
>>
>>158368756
the underlying racism of the western liberal always surfaces when asian women are mentioned
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>>158368251
>elite dragon over portrait
truly the telltale sign of a stuck-up 12 year old
>>
>>158368756
There's more than TERA elins and BnS lyn out there. If that's what you're focused on that's your problem.

Still forcing your puritanical values here as well.
>>
>>158368452
Constant reliable damage and huge burst, a good toolkit too.
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>Blizzard doesn't just let people queue for regular Mythic dungeons
>>
>>158368654
wait what, blood elves underwear are basically thongs
>>
>>158368654
Stop being dumb.
>>
>>158368847
t. retard who has never done mythic+
>>
>>158368815
I don't see any racism present, friend.

>>158368834
>Triggered Pedophile
>>
>>158368847
>implying thats a bad thing
Get out of here you post lich normie fag
>>
>>
I've been saving all my Nightfallen rep items since I hit exalted

They're going to reset your rep back to neutral in a coming patch and you'll have to grind it all again

You heard it here first
>>
>>158368847
>I hate talking to other people. Why can't I just play by myself? Stupid mmo with other people in it, I don't want to interact with them at all.
>>
>>158368928
>>158368992
>>158369017
samefag
>>
>>158368654
>Complaining about slutmogs being "nerfed"
Holy shit, I thought I had seen the bottom of this game's community but this takes the fucking cake. Slutmogging is one of, if not the most stupid things you can do in this game and if you defend it this hard you are just...sad.
>>
>only guy in the guild with legendary also got the second one
nice game blizzard
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>>158369050
see file name
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>>158369050
dumbshit
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>>158368765
All "panty" type slutmogs have stretched textures in the crotch area.Look up pre-Cata versions, they don't have

>>158368882
Yes, and they were tinier in the preview model, especially the front area. It was a nice slim V-shape and lower cut.
>>
>>158369138
i highly doubt they did it for themselves and because they care.
Either someone told them to make them bigger out of fear of backlash or they did it to cover themselves because of feedback from sjws in beta
>>
>>158369138
Sources on this? Legitimitely curious.
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>7.1 is literally nothing
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>>158369276
>new raid
>new dungeon
>new rep

>nothing

yeah you're definitely right, you're autistic as fuck
>>
>>158369276
>hunters still fundamentally broken
>arms/fury still shit
>dk sill shit
>mages "nerfed"
>>
>>158369276
It's not literally nothing, if you don't like the game unsubscribe shut the fuck up and never visit this general ever again.
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>>158369402
Only this guy gets me
>>
>activate mobile authenticator
>suddenly class hall app doesn't log in anymore

Wew Blizz
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>>158348319
>best mage we have
>cant see through an invisible potion or reason that something plucked his hair out
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holy shit there are so many fucking retards that play this game. i mean casuals.

does anyone here even raid? or do you just collect mounts and shit
>>
>>158361393
We invented the atomic bomb, does that mean that it'll do nothing if used against us?
>>
>>158369565
>He didn't build up his bomb resistance already
LOOK AT THIS FAG
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New loading screen
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>>158369678
>new

I see that shit all the time.
>>
>>158369242
Well I said without a word, the panty nerf was in a huge blood elf thread on MMO-C, which was like 90-something pages that I won't sift through.

The slutmog nerf you can just see for yourself. Bloodscale leggings literally just have black texture running down the inner thigh. They used to be tiny panties.
>>
Why is the court of stars fun, but the arcway so shit?
>>
>>158369743
Claustrophobia
>>
>>158369710
No you don't. This is the Live loading screen.
>>
fuck mages

i can't play any other ranged dps without thinking i'm wasting my time not playing a mage
>>
>>158369558
>Raiding
>When LFR can give you the same level of gear
lol?
>>
>>158369718
Based Blizzard blowing the fuck out of stupid Belves
>>
>>158369779
>>158369678

why did they change the color of the sword
>>
>>158369781
well thats not true at all you can play hunter, they need to take time warp away and make blood thirst ele only.
>>
>>158369781
>good at PvE heroing
>good at minigames
>still has one of the best slutmogs

It really is bullshit.
>>
>>158369943
>mage
>good at PvP

lel, any competent melee will destroy a mage
>>
>>158369943
whats the best slutmog
>>
>>
>>158369970
>reading comprehension
>black in highschool
yes, black
>>
>>158369996
Black mageweave.
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>>158369943
>>good at minigames
Anything non frost is a joke and frost itself isn't held in high regard there
>>
>>158370038
Read your post again Jerome
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>>158369718
I'll sift through it myself, though, if you remmember generally where it is, that'd be great (as in, between page 40 and 50, etc.)
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>>158370095
>Black mageweave.
Kill yourself
>>
>>158370130
now read mine again, Jamal
>>
Wait so this raid tier now only lasted a month? What the hell?
>>
>>158370337
HoV isn't a raid tier
>>
>>158370337
No, the next tier is Nighthold which releases in January.
>>
>>158370372
>>158370337

ToV*, rather.

You can still get Curve until Nighthold drops.
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>>158370337
HoV is a non-tier. Compare it to Vaults of Archon in WotLK. A casual loot pinata, just happens to have some story shit this time. The current raid tier will finish with Nighthold in early 2017 and the second Legion raid tier will likely start sometime around June 2017, maybe a little earlier.
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>>158370337
>raid literally has nothing to do with any story or lore anywhere
>malfurion cries like a bitch and expects us to clean his mess up
>no one gives a shit about malfurion
>only one any cares about is his wife but just because shes hot
good riddance
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>check the 3s minigames rankings to see the latest hotness
>#1 is a prot paladin
is this a joke or am i just blind
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>>158370482
>Not believing in most epic memes of all time
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>>158370478
they really should just kill of malfurion
dude's a non-factor now
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>>158370478
>>raid literally has nothing to do with any story or lore anywhere

?
You realize the entire thing is a lead in to the 7.2 N'zoth raid, right?
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>>158370542
I'm serious, is this for real? What kind of comp does a prot pally run? I just don't get it m8
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>>158370478
>>raid literally has nothing to do with any story or lore anywhere
t. retard who doesn't know anything about the lore

>>158370337
T19 is EN-ToV-NH with NH dropping the actual set
T20 will be whatever is released after NH
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>>158370141
http://www.mmo-champion.com/threads/1690984-Finally-New-Blood-Elf-Models?p=32786561&highlight=panties#post32786561

This thread, album is broken where the comparisons were made though. Also it's 208 pages.
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>>158370682
>208 pages of manchildren upset they can't slutmog quite as extreme

This is fucking gold
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Wow! Tanking sure is hard!

DING DING DING BZZT BZZT BZZT HONK HONK HONK

-TAUNT NOW- -TAUNT NOW- -TAUNT NOW-

HONK HONK DING BZZT RING BZZT

-TAUNT NOW- -TAUNT NOW- -TAUNT NOW-

So challenging!
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>>158370658
T20 is most likely a N'zoth raid set in some kind of undersea cavern, maybe featuring Naga, maybe not. T21 is confirmed to be a Tomb of Sargeras raid.
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>>158370612
You run prot paladin instead of a healer and since they are durable and have literally infinite mana you can do endurance runs until enemy healer somehow manages to go oom.
I know it sounds retarded but you cannot explain it.
Also since literally every match has a rogue, whatever you do you cleanse all the poisons.
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is Balance druid the most cucked spec in 7.1? They fix mastery snapshotting and give nothing in return. You also had to have the legendary helm to compete in DPS
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>>158370845
>T20 is most likely a N'zoth raid set in some kind of undersea cavern, maybe featuring Naga

it's gonna be Azshara
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>>158370905
For sure. You'll see Ele Shams bitching, but at least they're a strong mythic+ spec. Boomy has jack shit and Ionn is talking like you should be thanking him for an AoE silence.
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>>158370768
Every model update race thread was like that, some female tauren fag was pretty much campaigning on every thread that their classes should be uglier.
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>>158370845
>not Yogg 2 saronite boogaloo

they're being pretty unsubtle about the OG shit in this expansion

>YOU ARE A PAWN OF FORCES UNSEEN
>saronite poo leaking from the walls
>inside the dream that yogg created is a mechanically similar boss called the heart of corruption

>>158370949
Azshara is the reddest herring
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>>158370905
>ignoring the existence of Fury
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ive been playing for 11 hours straight
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>>158370980
>Azshara is the reddest herring

not like we've been waiting for 10 years
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>>158371041
I just find it incredibly amusing that Athissa is the one that got the unique model and she's dead before the Azsuna questline is even over
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>>158371027
I used to do that but then alts in Legion sucks
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>>158370954
>ele
""""strong""""

Before you say
>+10
Its the same at all the meaningful levels.
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>>158370658
>T19 is EN-ToV-NH with NH dropping the actual set
I just realized what we have 2 big raids again for one tier (with miniraid to keep people subbed) but this time there will be 6 tier pieces and blizzard still couldn't fucking make it so EN has first 2 tier pieces drop for the nice first set bonus with remaining 4 pieces being available once nighthold releases.
Like what the fuck are they doing?
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>>158371123
Thinking that people are busy enough farming for gear without adding set piece requirements too, probably.
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>>158371163
More like hoping to get legendary drop from the raid that has insanely shit gear save for few trinkets
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>>158371123
people would ignore the EN set pieces anyway because NH drops have a flat 25ilvl on them
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>>158370682
RIP Images. Though looking at the Artcraft compared to images in that thread, it is definitely noticable.
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>>158371210
>leggos from raids

Thats now how you spell spamming Mythic+
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FORSAKEN DINDU NUFFIN. THEY GOOD BOYS JUST TRYING TO SURVIVE WHILE MEAN HUMANS BE KILLING DEM
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>Go on Wowhead
>NH gear looks exactly the fucking same as EN

HAAH WAAW
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>worst horde leader is made warchief

fuck you vol'jin, smoked too much voodoo juju, killed all his braincells
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>>158371241
Uuuh, like that's a problem
>burn some obliterum and tauren cum with this orb of nighthold, get +25ilv on T19 EN gear
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>>158369678
What did they mean by this? This fucker is still alive and only his half was killed?
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unlock the arcway and court of stars
What do I do now?
Ilv 848 as a brewmaster, think i'l get a normal invite for a raid?
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>>158371283
Average shitter doesn't farm M+ because he saw on stream that every raid run has 2 legos so he tries to LFR and more hardcore ones actually try pugging normals
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>>158371420
inb4 he is the Kara boss
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>>158371428
>brewmaster
Reroll into WW now
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>>158371420
maybe he's only half a man now and corrupted by fel energy
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>>158371384
thats why the darkspears need to accept the king of all trolls as their leader

ALL HAIL KING RASTAKHAN !
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>>158371579
Fuck this noise

DARKSPEAR NEVER DIE MON
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>thinking Legion will have 3 raid tiers
Dumb mark
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>>158370025
The eye patch look so cheap.
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>>158371519
I appreciate the concern friend, part of me does feel like it'll just be easier to level a fotm class, because blizzard doesn't really seem to want to buff or nerf anyone, nor to they get how logs affect the view and treatment of a class. They're very much stuck in this class fantasy mindset which only a sub fraction of the players care about.

I enjoy brewmaster, or I atleast enjoy making healers sweat and I take damage miserably
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How do these shitty mass invite guilds manage to afford 300g/day in guild repairs for everyone?
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>>158371629
This 2 raid tier expansion shit can't fucking continue

Spreading 14 bosses over '2 raid tiers' is not fucking acceptable.
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Who dodged the Warlock bullet in /wowg/? Personally, I'm out after playing Warlock since 1.4. I'm a Resto Shaman now and it's horrific what my Warlock brethren still put up with.
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>>158371660
>FOTM class

Its more that Brewmaster is fucking terrible and I would never in a million years accept you into a group than other specs/classes are FOTM.
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>>158371476
Kara bosses are Maiden, Opera, Attumen, Moroes, Curator, Shade of Medivh, a random mana wyrm in the section where you're shrunken down, Viz'aduum and Nightbane
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So why did Holy Paladin get buffed? I play one and already thought I was too strong in Mythic raids.
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>>158371731
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>>158371710
>brew master tank last night for + myhtics
>we 3 chested all of them
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>>158371621
Aren't the Darkspear known to resurrect themselves through voodoo? They don't die they just go to the yugioh spirit realm, right? Are we gonna see Vol'Jin come back or did he just die through a shitty method?
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>>158370851
Ah I kinda get it now. That's a pretty gay ass strat desu
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>>158371317
>ORCS DINDU NUFFIN. THEY GOOD BOYS JUST TRYING TO SURVIVE WHILE MEAN HUMANS BE KILLING DEM
Fixed for ya
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>>158371676
everything up to NH is one tier, retard

same as HM and BRF were one tier

>>158371770
nah he dead for real
pretty hard to come back from being cremated
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>>158371690

Tbh stopped playing warlock before legion dropped. Not sure at what point but i remember knowing blizzard would fuck us over.
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>>158371770
they have some pact with their dead god if i remember unlike other troll tribes
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>>158371770
"Darkspear never die" is their literal motto. There is a 0% chance Vol'Jin is permanently dead. He's either being ressed (unlikely) or returning as a Loa-esque spirit to inspire the Horde in their darkest hour or explain away some bullshit Sylvy pulled.
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>>158371750
The FoL change doesn't seem very significant.
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>>158371710
> I would never in a million years accept you into a group
A-Anon I thought we were friends...

It's true brewmaster is terrible compared to the other tank specs, wont be getting buffs 7.1 and it's probably not until they're under represented in nighthold that they'll get any buffs. blizzard doesn't seem to get mobility ≠ mitigation
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>>158371851
>everything up to NH is one tier, retard
That's exactly what I'm saying retard. In WoD Blizzard liked to play like Highmaul and Blackrock Foundry constituted something close to 2 raid tiers prior to that Guldan bullshit but the playerbase knows they're spinning bullshit.

This all goes back to us letting them get away with Firelands as a 'raid tier' in Cata. Fuck you Blizz.
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i lost my raid spot because i showed up to every raid night drunk

damn
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>minimum ilvl is set to 860+
>description says 865+
>title says 870+

so what the fuck do they want
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>>158371953
>he didn't join a 420 friendly bro guild
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>>158371953
>always drunk
>when people talk to me on VOIP I just grunt or say "damn son"
>no one ever found out
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>>158371953
>not doing better DPS while wasted
honestly when I'm drunk my subconscious does my rotation for me, I've never done as much DPS while avoiding as many mechanics as I do wasted. Takes the stress out of it.

Outside of raiding my alcoholism is destroying my life though, please send help. My only friends are my guild and they think my drinking is great.
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>>158371909
They have that weird "It's okay to be at sub 35% health" thing right now.
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>>158371767
Shit anon, you anecdotal evidence that Brewmaster is CAPABLE of being good means that all Brewmasters are likely to be good or even decent!

No. They're bad, or at least they're difficult enough to get right that I'm not inviting some random to deplete my key through incompetence.

>>158371909
Its not personal senpai.

If we were guildies and I knew you could tank then thats cool, but not some pug
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>>158370025
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>>158371996
too much
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dumb frogposters
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>>158371767

>from Mythic 2 to Mythic 5
>from M3 to M6
>so on, so forth

wew, lad
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>>158372073
>cairne's father didn't die for the horde at all
>lor'themar calling it his horde
>anon being brutally retarded about the relationship between sylvanas and lor'themar

kek
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>>158371868
Yea I was reading about it, and all trolls in the past have been embalmed/mummified. So would the cremation stop his regenerative powers? I could see him coming back as a spirit instead of his body like you mentioned. Sucks that my favorite character was such a worthless warchief in this universe.
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>3 legendary drops
>they're all garbage
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>>158372141
The cremation pretty much guarantees his return as a Loa. The Horde is going to wind up turning against Sylvy and in this moment LoaGhostVoljin is going to appear and tell Cairne/Lorthermar (implying anyone else in the Horde matters lol) to back off and let the Banshee Queen do her thing because she's a playerbase favourite hero and because while we want Slvy to be edgy we don't want to end up changing warchief every fucking expansion.
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>>158372132
>Relationship between sylvanas and lor'themar

aka nothing they literraly have no dialogue between each other since lor 'thelmar has been ingame in burning crusade , its like they never knew each other before
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>>158372132
>>cairne's father didn't die for the horde at all
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>>158372121
>only one member in the party can own a keystone
>people aren't actively doing m6's
>so on so forth
I'll take things that are wrong for 500
>>158372069
But wouldnt that argument provide me with the same argument?
I could just say you have anecdotal evidence of being bad, that must mean all brew masters are UNCAPABLE etc etc..
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>>158372141
Honestly though Voljin dying without having done ANYTHING is fucking bullshit and proves that Blizz don't give a shit about the Horde outside the Orcs. They could have at least let him done SOMETHING before killing him off so that UndeadSue could take his place.

You just know that all this bullshit is leading up to Thrall leading the Horde again. Even with Metzen gone his fetishes remain ingrained in the Blizz writers.
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>>158372165
>Still have to loot last 2 legendaries
>It's WW cape and boots the literally 2 best legos
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>>158372265

>implying content below +8 is meaningful

To be honest, I'm shaking my head at your post, family.
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>>158372286
Voljin died to pander to muh kween fanboys/girls. They were seething when he was made Warchief instead of her originally and Blizzard was just looking for an opportunity to kill him off and appease them.
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>>158372226
In her current form she's the favorite of nobody but dribbling retards that want someone pretty as chief.
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>>158372286
The only capable person that could lead the Horde is Baine, and he got his questline cut out.
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>trying to do EN normal at 8am tuesday morning

how do 7 of our 9 dps manage to be under 150k?
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>>158372226
this
gallywix and pandawho ? are literraly insignificant

and gallywix only care about cash anyway
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>>158372338
You're overestimating the fanbase. The average WoW player fucking loves Sylvy, mainly because they're looking for that easy introduction to necrophilia
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>>158372265
>I could just say you have anecdotal evidence of being bad

I have logs of Brewmasters having the lowest survivability and lowest speed of any of the tanks, so no. Nothing anecdotal about it.
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>>158372346
thats a big cow
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>>158372336
>implying it isnt when +10 is the gear cap
dont worry about it famalam
>secondary implying your highest is meaningful
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>>158370025
They just can't believe that a STRONG UNDEAD FEMALE is now the leader of the Horde.
Dark Lady watch over us.
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>>158372238
He didn't
poisoned by Magatha using the mak'gora with Garrosh as a proxy
Garrosh was even pissed at her for denying him an honourable duel

>>158372229
>still being retarded
she confronted him about sending forces to Northrend to fight the Lich King and basically blackmailed him into it
and the Kirin Tor were basically doing the same thing too
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>>158372054
Thing is its not I never know what to tell my healers, telling them to just let me collect random spawn health orbs at -35% seems like a shit idea, most of them see you getting low and blow all their expensive quick mana spells as opossed to the moderate cheap mana spells.

Hell groups see me get low and panic all the time, paladins will divine shield me not realizing my class has meme healing brew and is meant to spawn health orbs. by design it really feels like brewmaster was meant to fuck with healers to everyones detriment.
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>>158372462
>>cairne's father
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>>158372445
>regular undead aren't thicc as sylvanas
Fuck you blizz
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>>158372346
But honestly there are at least a dozen people more capable or qualified to lead the Horde than Slyvy. Blizz arbitrarily put her in the chair buy 1) sacrificing Voljin with his bullshit prophecy and B) banking on the fact that she's popular among the fanbase.

I hope that they intend to take this 'story development' in an interesting development. Cause, look, I'm not Troll fanboy, but killing Voljin before he's had any reasonable chance to be an interesting Warchief and further develop the Darkspear storyline MUST mean they have a good reason right?
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>>158372462
>literraly fight garrosh cause he think he is a terrible warchief and want him replaced
>not dying for the horde

you are the retarded one
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>>158372346
>Tauren leading the Horde

Wouldn't make sense either, friend. Considering they're closer to an Alliance race than a faction with the Forsaken in it. (Or Orcs, really)
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>Blizz finally caves in and adds Outlaw buffs to the patch
>it's a two fucking percent damage increase
>does nothing to fix the problems
>"we've changed it so now we won't have to do anything else to it for months :^)"
Fucking damn it
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>>158372441

>he still hasn't shown us his Brewmaster clear at +9/+10 to disprove us

:^)
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What even is the Horde at this point?
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>>158372515
>before he's had any reasonable chance to be an interesting Warchief
he had all of WoD to do something
he failed

>>158372531
any meaning that duel had was circumvented when Magatha poisoned Garrosh's axe
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>>158372507
I know right? Undead females are literally skin and bones. (hehe)
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>>158372462
This shit still borderline enrages me to this day. Cairne deserved a greater death. In terms of 'LMAO LORE POWER LEVELS' an elder Cairne losing to a prime Garrosh while infected by Grimtotem poison makes sense, it doesn't feel like enough to condone his death.

Cairne should have died like Varian. Surrounded by enemies in a moment of greatness. Not spent in order to cloud the grey morality of Garrosh leading into him becoming yet another LOLCORRUPTED raid boss.
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>>158372654
a second faction

that's about it
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>>158372551
> (Or Orcs, really)
Fuck off, thrall and caine are bro's from way back when the orcs saved his people from centaur.
Also they share the whole shamanism tribalism gimmick. Same with darkspear, forsaken is the only blacksheep in faction of blacksheeps.
Blood evles were added because blizzard literaly couldn't think of anyone else.
Really goblin should of been the fourth faction lorewise.
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>>158372610
>neither have you
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>>158372707

>Garrosh
>corrupted

...?
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>>158372654
Blood elves.
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>its euro loreshitter hour

i'm out
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>>158372727
Probably because a +10 clear as Brewmaster is rare as shit.
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>>158372657
>he had all of WoD to do something
What the fuck was any lore character supposed to "do" with the lore abortion that was WoD?
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Anybody got a mage here? How are Frost mages doing in M+ content? Getting bored of healing, wanna try out a mage
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>>158372771

"euro loreshitter" hour is better than LE EPIC TRANNY TRANSMOG POSTING XD
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>>158372551
>Original members of the Horde
>wouldnt make sense lol

>Baine's been a character ever since Warcraft 3
>Nothing's ever done with him, just watches over Bloodhoof Village
>Cairne dies
>Baine's made High Chieftain
>Kicks the Grimtotem out of Mulgore
>Doesn't do anything for fucking years aside from short stories and a novel or two because Blizzard writers are fucking hacks
>Is finally around in Legion
>Gets his single questline cut out for literally no fucking reason because Alliancebabies whined about having to help a Horde character
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>>158372774
>not even bottom 3
It's mid tier you fuck
lel
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>>158372810
I mean in terms of the behavior of Orcs throughout WoW.
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Arcane bros WW@?

How do you think about the recent changes regarding M+ and raids?
Any of you quitting/changing to arcane when patch hits live?
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>>158372774
can you link that exact page you're on

i dont know how to navigate warcraftlogs
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>>158372741
While Blizzard apologists would like the pretend that Garrosh is a unique villain there is no pretending that he wasn't influenced by his stay in Northrend and further influenced by the shad of Y'Shaarj.

That doesn't make him a good person, but Arthas, Illidan, Thrall, etc weren't good people either and no one can stop making excuses for their bullshit.
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>>158372707
Don't forget that Cairne died in a fucking book, A BOOK of all things, and most of the playerbase STILL doesn't know he's dead, or that him and Baine are different characters.
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>>158372854
https://www.warcraftlogs.com/statistics/9#dataset=95&keystone=10

Here, friend.

>>158372801
Very, very bad apart from niche use.
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>>158372657
He took over huge chunks of Draenor. It was a shitty time to really expand on his character as WoD was more of a fight against crazy time-predicaments and both factions being united to fight some baddies.

He's had his throat slit and regenerated, but a piece of fel metal kills him? I don't buy it. We go from him weak on the throne to a bandaged corpse on a pyre. Hoping something happened and he's sitting on the side biding his time to make a comeback.
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>>158372860
>mopbabby tries to argue lore

kek
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>>158372860
Probably because it was mainly the Alliance kiddies complaining that Garrosh was being mean to them.
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>>158372802
>no transmog posting at all
>cry about it
haha well this is better than HITLER posting amirite what a relevant point :^)
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>>158372885
>most of the playerbase STILL doesn't know he's dead
... wait, what?

The fuck?
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>>158372905
Ah damn, so I guess it's fire or bust for m+? Might go fire then, really not interest in arcane
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>>158372132
here you "i look too much into memes" autist
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>>158372885
Look, I could write a fucking essay about how awful I think Metzen's "multi-media" approach to lore is. Especially now that they've decided to completely ignore their book-lore in the Emerald Nightmare.

Cairne was cucked. Voljin was cucked. The Horde storyline since WotLK has been absolute bullshit. I hope that the departure of Metzen means that the lore can be 1) less retarded B) presented in game instead of in bullshit novels and comics.

But I'm not optimistic.
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>>158372860

True, we did need a cutscene where Garrosh psychically wrastles Y'Shaarj into submission to really drive home that Garrosh is 100% in control. That would've been really badass, in fact, and would've totally changed the tone of the fight. I'd have been even more pissed at the lore outcome of Siege as an Alliancefag, i.e absolutely nothing
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>>158372970
Fire is one of the best specs in the game for M+ and its just got a boost to its AoE, so yeah its damn good.

Arcane is getting buffs that might make it decent but still not on par with Fire.
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>>158372958
>Legion gets announced
>Make a thread on the WoW forums about Baine possibly being involved in Highmountain
>Most people that posted didn't know that Cairne was dead, thought Baine was dead, or mixed the characters up
I honestly wish I was making this up.
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>>158372983
Kosak's been in charge of creative since Cata, Metzen's only hung around to do VA

maybe share me some of that dank herb you've been smoking, it sounds like amazing stuff
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>Guilds with required voice chat
>No one ever communicates through it even during raids
What is the fucking point then
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>>158372983
>Implying the lore is going anywhere

For WoW to continue after Legion its going to have to be balls to the wall handwaving.
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>mfw cow fags think that their "leader" matters in the slightest
no matter how much you like him and how "level headed" or what ever he is
he will never be important because no one likes him or even knows who he is
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>>158373107

>social leveling guild
>only time anyone talks is someone saying gratz
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>>158373000
Look, even if it was made 100% explicit that, in the end, Garrosh was 100% in control of the power of Y'Shaarj there is no ignoring the impact that two Old Gods had on the character.

His character development in TBC, WotLK and then Cata was completely schizophrenic. There are quests during the Cata 1-60 experience that try and paint Garrosh as a harsh-but-fair Warchief, a complete departure from the character he died as.

I'm not trying to defend Garrosh. I think the idea that he started off pure in his motivations, anything for the Horde, and died having been corrupted by that motivation is fine. But I get annoyed when people try to paint him as 100% evil and also when people try to paint Saurfang and Thrall as guiltless in what happened. I get particularly annoyed with the WoD Thrall cutscene, and I'm glad that Legion, to and extend, acknowledges that Thrall failed himself, the Horde and the Azeroth with his decisions.

I make better use of Doomhammer anyway, cuck.
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>>158373042
That's almost frightening.

But hopefully it'll teach Blizzard a lesson about splitting important lore to things outside the games.
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>Left my diet orange soda in the freezer overnight and forgot about it
>It exploded all over the freezer and now my dad is yelling at me

I don't like this feel bros
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>>158373123
t. fembelf
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>>158373196
Rape him
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>>158373121
Thrall comes back and Vol'Jin comes out of hiding with a united troll army. We back to basics.

Or we do some stupid timewarp Draenor shit and Varian becomes new lich king. Recycling ideas is the in thing at Blizz.
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>>158373205
but lor'themar matters even less
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>>158373257

And so it begins.
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ALL YOU FAGGOTS BITCHING ABOUT THE LORE

GALLYWIX DOESN'T EVEN HAVE A MODEL

MEANWHILE THAT KEKFURRY WEREWOLF NOW LEADS THE ALLIANCE APPARENTLY

FUCK DOTA
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>tfw the "spirit" that talked to vol'jin about him making sylvanas warchief were not Voodoo but légions demons because of his fel wound

>tfw sylvanas being warchief and so having a shitton of tension between the alliance and horde cause of her and genn is all part of the legion plan
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>>158373171
TBC Garrosh was a mopey git until Thrall told him that actually, Grom was a cool guy at the end and blew Mannoroth the fuck out
Wrath and Cata he was trying to live up to his dad's legacy as a great Horde war hero, emphasis on the war part
MoP is when his characterization (and the writers in charge of it) went full retard
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>>158373250
>Thrall comes back
>timewarp Draenor shit

niqqah...
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>>158373191
It clearly hasn't. Most people didn't even read War Crimes, a book Baine was majorly involved in. Blizzard knows that Warcraft books don't sell anymore, not to mention only Golden's interested in writing Baine.

>>158373290
Literally no one cares about Gallywix, he will never be important in the slightest, he's just some random fucking goblin that Thrall made the leader of.
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new thred when
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>>158373196
>It exploded all over the freezer
You sure there was just soda in it?

I've seen frozen soda cans crack and leak, but explode? Damn...
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HOLY FUCKING SHIT

NO ONE GIVES A FUCK ABOUT SOME RANDOM SHITTY STORY MADE UP BY A BUNCH OF LOSER OLD MEN IN THEIR 40S

PLEASE STOP DISCUSSING IT HERE

>>>>>>>>>>>>REDDIT.COM/R/WOW
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>>158373171
>I get particularly annoyed with the WoD Thrall cutscene
imagine how good it would have felt if garrosh beat him to death
>>158373205
jokes on you i play ally but all my horde characters are orc and undead
also what this guy said >>158373257
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>>158373321
His Cata lore is schizo is fuck. He does from monstrous Horde1.0 Warchief to Anduin-Tier-Sympathetic-cuck from quest to quest.

If they'd had any plan for his storyline they would have showed the corruption WotLK had on his character in Cata, preparing for his descent into madness in Panda.
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>>158373290
The horde is getting fucked lorewise, like its always been. any one who thinks dreanor was about the horde is an idiot it's about Thrall ITS ALWAYS BEEN ABOUT THRALL THAT'S WHY THEY WONT MAKE HIM PARCHEESI AGAIN, THAT'S WHY THEY'RE RUINING THE HORDE SO THEY CAN HAVE MORE FUCKING THRALL STORIES AND TRY TO WRITE HIM OFF AND NEUTRAL ALLIANCE WINS, ALLIANCE WINS.

FUCKING DRIVEN INTO THE GROUND BY ATTEMPTING TO THE EARTHEN RING THE CEARION CIRCLE

WHO EVEN REPLACES THE VOLJIN FUCKING NO ONE, HOW MANY ALLIANCE LEADERS HAVE DIED FUCKING 1. HOW MANY HORDE? 5
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>>158373397
>i play ally
So you don't know jackshit, okay
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Thoughts?
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>tfw no more perma shadowform
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>MFW Bwonsamdi considers Vol'Jin his personal instrument of death and he dies to a piece of fel metal from some random shitter.
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>>158373408
He wasn't nearly involved enough in frontline combat to get corrupted in Northrend
he spent most of the time bickering with Varok about tactical decisions while Dranosh was leading the troops

>inb4 disproven retard memes about horde strongholds using saronite

it's not even the right colour
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>>158372810
But that's WROOOOOONG

Alliance players would help Brann instead of Baine!

So why the FUCK DID THEY CUT HIM OUT REEEEEEEEEE
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>>158373486
>playing ally means you can never do anything horde side
>>
Who is the Orc racial leader?
Who is the Troll racial leader?

Is this question hard to answer for any Alliance race?
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>>158373475

>Hordefag complains that Blizzard 'ruins' the Horde
>ignores that Blizzard will never actually end the Horde, which means Alliance will always job incredibly hard when it counts

Siege of Orgrimmar would've ended with the dissolution of Durotar as a region, famalam.
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>>158373542
Probably some guy that ordered a girl to do it once and he repeats the video for every purchase. At least that is what I'd do if I was a degenerate.
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>>158373658
No, it just means that you're bias and don't care, dumb anime poster.
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>>158373270
wat begins
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>>158373663
?
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>>158373663
There's no new troll racial leader

orc racial leader is saurfang
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>>158373725
>they don't know anything
>logical counterpoint
>well ur biased <insert bias against anime posters>
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>>158373664
>Alliance complain about something
>Blizzard babies them and caters to them
>Horde complain about something
>Get told to suck it up

>Taurajo, a small hunter's camp, gets burned to the ground with civilians butchered
>Alliance players backpedal and damage control
>Theramore, a massive military base for the Alliance, gets destroyed
>Alliance NEVER FUCKING SHUT UP ABOUT IT
>Jaina brings it up whenever she can
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>>158373817
no its still thrall , saurfang just take care of orgrimmar , cause thrall is gone all the time for his shamanic shits
>>
>>158373817
Show me where and when Saurfang was made the racial leader of the Orcs

Additionally, show me a point in Alliance lore in which the leadership of any Alliance faction was left uncertain or to fan-speculation
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>lorefags
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>>158373725
>you're bias and don't care
but thats not true at all?
the majority of my favorite charters are horde
>>158373663
>Who is the Orc racial leader?
saurfang i know its not really but tharll can go fuck himself desu
>Who is the Troll racial leader?
lol
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>>158373664
Doesn't matter if they never end the horde which they cant
They're writing for the horde is complete, the fact the alliance jobs just makes their writing even worse for putting themselves in those positions.

Also siege of orgrimmar made varrian look like the bigger man it would of been a job if he actually lost, now instead they just made janai look like a crazy bitch, untill 3 more of your guys die and we get seige or stormwind or dalaran because jania took over you guys have been getting the easy life.
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>>158373892
Magni ya fucking loon
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>>158373907
>Game based on an actual story based in an actual world.
>Play it for the ERP
>>
>>158373967
>Implying Magni isn't an Old God pawn
I can't wait until the King of Diamonds is revealed to be the king of lies

And Allliance-fags like to pretend that Goblins are the Jew-expy.
>>
>>158373863

Never forget Taurajo
>>
>>158373863
never forget taurajo camp massacre , theramore deserved to be destroyed for that and making an highway to get troops fast into the barrens
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>>158373967
The council of three hammers is fucking perfection of lore it brings in all the clans and lets the dwarfs be shaman and mages.

Also magni didn't die because, literally every other horde leader but thrall gets cucked.
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>hordebabs crying again
>while alliance men have had to help thrall become jesus, retake the city of the undead and orcs and had the mercy to let them live
>>
>>158373863

>Garrosh blows up Theramore, the one military base in the Alliance that's run by someone who was at worst neutral to the Horde
>Camp Taurajo gets razed in response to Theramore
>Horde guy blows up a NE Druid school in Stonetalon Mountains cuz "muh Taurajo"

Horde are the players who get catered to, senpai.
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>Gametime costing 85 fucking K

THATS OVER THE FUCKING LINE BOYS, OVER THE LINE
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>>158373863
>everal quest chains do show that General Hawthorne, who led the assault, ordered his men to give the townsfolk an opening in their defensive lines for them to escape.
faggot
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Bwonsamdi x Vol'Jin story when?
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>>158374083
>Horde are the players who get catered to, senpai.

My favorite meme
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>>158374083
>>Camp Taurajo gets razed in response to Theramore
Taurajo happened first.
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>>158374083
holy shit you're actually retarded

>>158374124
yeah they still killed those civilians
>>
>>158374083
except that horde guy was just a dumbass and got killed by garrosh for destroying that place
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>>158357506
>I only raided ICC regular
>good pve gear
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>>158374159
>For his own part, High Chieftain Baine Bloodhoof surprisingly seemed to share the Alliance view that Camp Taurajo was a legitimate military target and knows that Hawthorne refused to have its civilians slaughtered.
faggot
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>>158374094
>Blizzards plan worked
Everyone was thinking how the blood vendor would save them and help them, little did you plebeians fucking know it was a ruse to up token prices enjoy paying for your game time but not your herbs you stupid fucks.
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does /wowg/ think I'm a qt?
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>>158374281
your immense amounts of damage control don't change the fact that slaughter of civilians still happened
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>>158374165
>>158374083
the general was an idiot you tried to tell him that his commander tried to attack the taurens cause he killed the tauren son to make the druids look like they actually used their tree as a base of operation
>dont listen to you and go kill the wife of the tauren chief and explode the tree
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>>158374339
dont ever use that helm and yes
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>>158374384
but it matches the green gem thing on the bow
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>>158374346

>Garrosh drops Little Boy on Theramore in response
>but thats ok it was just in response tee hee orcs dindu nuffin

The only reason Taurajo even got merked was because Garrosh decided it was time to go chopping trees in Ashenvale, breaking a relative peace that had existed for a decade or two at that point.

>Tauren turn Stonetalon into Afghanistan for the Alliance
>The Night Elves don't turn Ashenvale into Vietnam for the Horde

Missed connection, that.
>>
>>158374478
>A decade or two
Cata is about 7-8 years after WC3 so not that long
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>>158374445
but it looks awful and most mogs look better with no helm
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>>158374478
>retarded mopbabby thinks the bombing of Theramore happened during Cata

rofl

>retarded mopbabby can't even get his timelines right
7 years from the Battle of Mount Hyjal to the Cataclysm

>>158374538
>happened after theramore
why are there so many drooling retard allybabbies in this thread
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>>158374538
>taujaro destruction : Cataclysm
>theramore destruction scenario :release event for MOP

>dont turn ashenvale into vietnam

sure its not like theres ambushed invisible night elves everywhere killing peons than going back invisible everywhere
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>>158374281
>Baine says that Taurajo was a military target, mourns the dead and moves on
>Meanwhile Jaina is STILL crying about Theramore
Also reminder that Tyrande's a fucking cunt that tried to get Baine onto the subject of Garrosh killing Cairne but Baine was too smart to fall for her shit.
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>>158374339
p cute
>>
>890 posts
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>>158374683
Make a new thread faggot, or just bitch bout it
>>
>>158374649
remind me what their conversation was
>>
>>158374683
this is the last /wowg/ lad, let it die
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>mate logs our heroic runs
>would be number one on two bossfights for my itemlevel
>mate didnt click advanced combat logging so I'm not even ranked
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>>158374649
Difference is that Taurajo was 3 mudhuts with 5 taurens in it while Theramore was a whole city
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>>158374678
name of the transmogs
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>>158374717
>War Crime novel
>Baine is defending Garrosh in court
>Tyrande's turn to speak
>She brings with her a couple pieces of dirt or whatever of places where Garrosh has been and left death in his wake
>One of them was the arena where Garrosh fought Cairne
>Baine takes the piece of dirt, crumbles it and lets it fall to the ground

>>158374769
Theramore stopped being an actual city when Jaina allowed the Alliance to make it a major military base.
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>>158374807
Why the fuck does only Golden care about Baine? Can she replace this Kosak guy? Please?
>>
>>158374807
>Several Quest lines do hint that there was rumour among the Alliance that Taurajo was being used to train soldiers, also the General who led the assault ordered his men to give the towns-folk time to escape.
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>>158374807

Jaina allowed the Alliance to put forces through Theramore because Garrosh invaded Ashenvale.
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>>158374897
>Rumors = fact
>There are still dead civilians in Taurajo
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>>158374897
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>rumour

>Alliance doesn't even factcheck before obliterating a hunters outpost

hot kek
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>>158374946
>>158374946
>>158374946
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