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Previous timeloop: >>158178401
Console Lobby password is always vidya
PC Lobby Naming Convention: /Blaz/ (Region) (East/West)

> NEWS
- Japanese and Hong Kong (with English text) CF console versions are out
- CF will be released on November 1st in the US and November 4th in Europe
- Blazblue Variable Heart, a new manga starring Mai, is currently being published
- XBlaze Code Embryo, XBlaze Lost Memories and Chronophantasma Extend are available on Steam
- The DLC of Es will be available to download for free 1 week after the US release
- The DLC of Mai will become available on October 27th in Japan.
- CF demo available in US PSN from October 11th; does not include Es or Mai.

> USEFUL LINKS
- Match Videos
http://pastebin.com/e119EKtk
- News, Guides, Combo Listings
http://www.dustloop.com/forums/
http://www.dustloop.com/wiki/index.php?title=Main_Page
- Story Stuff
http://blazblue.wikia.com/wiki/BlazBlue_Wiki
- Other Media (Remix Heart, Variable Heart, Soundtracks, Bururaji, etc)
http://pastebin.com/eJRLZkYz
- Player List
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1PaARR543UOJHThsb4ly4Sr--0wj24yj1hoHpkEPmCjc/edit?pli=1#gid=0
-Frame data/hitbox viewer
http://boxdox-bb.dantarion.com
-/blaz/ Discord
https://discord.gg/DKTKFMg
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Carl
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Three days until Mai. Looking forward to her.
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>>158298470
COUP DROIT
THAT GUARD BREAKS
i can't
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Is there frame data for cf yet?
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Ahh..I want to see Ragna...when I see him how will I tell him?
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ZEA
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>>158299486
How do I stop my friend from bullying me with hakumen?
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NA CF in 8 days, EU in 11.

I'm going fucking nuts from boredom 2bh lads.
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>>158299716
What time will it get added to the playstation store?
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>>158299716
Be excited for Mai on Thursday.
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>>158299834
Whenever the store decides to update although for PS4 the preorder version is already up so maybe they could just use that?
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>>158299943
Im talking PS3. It gets updated the day of right?
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>>158300021
Yeah around 11am eastern to like 6pm eastern depending.
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>>158299593
How exactly are you getting bullied? Tell me where the bad ZEAman hurt you.

Hakumen is one of the most honest characters and if you lose to him you were bested fair and square
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>>158299486
Zea~
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>>158300373
I don't know how to punish counter and just go for a throw combo. I don't know how to get in through his pokes and anti airs.

I tried keeping him out but stalling things out just ends up with him having a lot of meter to fuck me up with.
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>>158300373
>bested fair and square
>18 frame overhead
ok
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\fgg\ here,stop spamming our general with your waifus. They all look like hentai game characters.
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>People are actually excited for Mai

>>158301026
Don't tell us that, some of us here wonder why the characters get posted so much
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>>158300852
>800 damage
WOW it's fucking nothing. If you get CH by it, stop fucking mashing.

>>158300710
Bait counter like you would bait dps. Just start blocking during your pressure and he will expose himself if he mindlessly mashes counter. as for pokes, you can low profile or airdash over 4C. If he uses j.C, you have to run up and block.
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>>158301256
>. If you get CH by it, stop fucking mashing.
So what do you expect me to do then...try and react to a sub 20 frame overhead? I don't
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>>158301119
I'm looking forward to Mai.
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>>158301503
Look for obvious tells. Most ZEAmans like to do 6A->6B. Other than that, it's really hard to react to, yeah, but deal with it. This is the same game that has fucking Valkenhayn in it, so 800 dmg off of Haku 6B really isn't something to bitch about.
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>>158301026
ok, I'll keep posting blaz lewds, a lot better than gorilla fighter 5 girls.
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>>158301256
Does his overhead only combo on ch? Also how does his meter work. I don't fully understand it.
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Is Bullet a mid tier character or bottom tier in CF?
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>>158301026
>insert female fighting game character here
>not looking like a she's from a hentai
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>>158302304
Yeah, you can only combo off of Haku's 6B when you use a RC or it's a CH. Hakumen gains meter passively over time, the meter gain is accelerated when he lands hits or is being hit (dunno about blocking, does he get more meter from IB or meter from blocking at all?).
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>>158302378
Delete this before you summon bulletfag
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SO.......

Can anyone explain to me which ricemuncher at ASW thought it was a good idea to give Nine a SAFE DP, Full/Halfscreen comboable overheads and fucking full invul multi-direction AIR OK dashes?

Giving Azrael a DP was probably also that genius's idea.
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>>158301026
The game itself pointed that out. And there's literally nothing wrong with them looking like H-game characters.
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>>158302806
But Azrael had no reversal before his dp
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>>158302806
Them nerfs better destroy her.
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>>158298470
>her
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I keep telling you fucks. Mais theme sounds shoujo as hell . I'll fight anyone who disagrees
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Place bets on when you think Jubei's gonna get announced. I think it'll be this month after the 27th.
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>>158304539
Do electric guitars make you think of shoujo?
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>>158304539
It sounds sanic as fuck
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>>158298470
Daily reminder that Mai is low tier waifubait. Collect your free wins!
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Never realized how cute Celica is desu
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>>158307284
Would you drink her pee?
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>>158307489
Only if she acted super embarrassed about it
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>>158307697
You'll make a good Celicafag.
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>>158300852
Fair and balanced
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https://youtu.be/9Is6m_woHkI
Sick
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>>158308542
Just burst
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>>158307791
>>158307697
>>158307489
>>158307284
In all honesty a girl like Celica have all the qualities for a perfect wife (Save de sense of dirction thingy and maybe the voice)
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>>158311353
But those are the same reasons why she's sometimes called a Mary Sue; too many positive traits and no real flaws. She's too passive imo, I prefer a waifu with more bite to her.
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which character allows me to win by pressing the least amount of buttons?
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>>158311815
Tager
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>>158311815
Naoto. Trust me on this.
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>>158311921
lies
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>>158311761
Weeeeell, is Mary sue-ish, but this is a more-or-less justifiable given her power or some shit and that she almost never past for somethings so terribly angsty before bloodege find her.
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>>158311815
Hakumania.
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Who is the shittiest character in CF unless the game is that balanced and everyone is good?

Like a character you have to work 10x harder on than everyone else for no reason
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>>158312173
Bullet.
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>>158312248
Bullet is better than Kagura and Noel tho
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So do you think Ragna knocked out his siblings because he had to or because he knew they wouldn't let go of him?
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>>158311761
Not him, but I agree that Celica is utterly passive. She only exists to act sweet and to be protected. Even when she ran off to Japan in order to look for her father, that was only because Kazuma manipulated her to do so. If he hadn't she'd have just sat in Ishana. She always does what others tell her to do and has no desires of her own other than to be nice to people.

And she's too innocent. She was in love with Ragna her whole life, but never realized that fact. I guess being aware of what love is would take away from her child-like innocence. Not to mention that there's nobody she dislikes and that she displays no negative emotions; most girls in BB are idealized, but Celica takes it to such an extreme that she doesn't feel like a real person at all.
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>>158312060
Angst-y histories aren't necessary for a Mary Sue - really, no single trait is "necessary" so long as the character fits into the description - but Celica's powers (which, incidentally, allow her to keep being the "passive good girl" instead of actually fighting) still don't justify lack of character flaws. Being too selfless and having no sense of direction are pseudo-flaws that only really serve to make her more endearing and make others want to protect her.

When it comes down to it, Mary Sue comes down to a mixture of opinion and poor writing. I'm sure a skilled writer could take Celica and spin her into someone less Mary Sueish (e.g. Trinity, who has many of the same traits but whose misplaced trust actually caused something Really Bad to happen).
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>>158311353
I can't imagine Celica being able to cook
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>>158312761
I reaaaally wish she had passed for somethingnthat would have make her a more fleshed out character, but this is Mori, and nothing bad will ever happen for the little cinnamon roll too perfect for this world. Oh well
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>>158312142
YOU KNOW SOMETHING MEAN JUBEI BROTHER, ALL THE LITTLE HAKUSTERS KNOW BROTHER, THAT RAGNA IS NOTHING BUT A BIG OLD BULLY BROTHER, WHO DOESN'T EAT HIS VITAMINS, OR SAY HIS PRAYERS BROTHER, SO TONIGHT, AT BLAZAMANIA, I WILL TRIUMPH OVER YOU RAGNA BROTHER, AND THERE WON'T BE NOTHING YOU CAN DO ABOUT IT BROTHER!
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>>158311353
but is celica a hyper-competent top yandere chef-housewife who kills your enemies in cold blood without thinking twice?
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>>158312995
Well, she live 70 or more years alone in the church... So at least she should have SOME capacity to take care of herself
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>>158312995
Celica's not terrible canonically, she used to make berry pies for the kids or something back when she was a nun. I can see her being around average or even a bit above-average when it comes to BB waifu cooking tiers, but then we're also factoring the Saya clones into that list.
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>>158313409
Are Hibiki and Valkenhayn top SS waifu cookers
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>>158312761
One thing I didn't like about Celica, other than her complete selflessness, is how child-like her mind is. All she cares about is making those around her happy; she has no real understanding of the world around her or about more mature subjects such as love. She's thus a pretty simplistic character and in the end of the day is simply boring.
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>>158313801
Quick question, but couldn't that be a consequence of never having a father and having a Sister that puts her in a giant bubble all her life?
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I believe in love.
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>>158313572
Including just the characters we hear about their cooking in the games:
High: Jubei, Hibiki, Mai, Ragna, Valk
Mid: Celica, Kajun, Makoto, Tsubaki
Bottom: Saya clones

>>158313957
Celica still went to school at Ishana. She interacted with other human beings. And even if she had been kept in a bubble by her sister that doesn't mean she should have stayed mentally a child her whole life.
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>>158314167
>bottom saya clones
Fuck you I bet Nu knows how cook wonderfully
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>>158312173
Scan when?
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>>158314167
Jubei?

Oh, a school where all students are terrified of her ogre sister... It makes me think if there was ANYTHING in her live that would make her less child like... or i'm just a fag that isn't that fond with psycology, but wathever
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>>158314167
Lambda can cook normally. We don't exactly know how well, but she's still better than Noel.

I dunno if we can put Mai and Ragna in the same category as the other three. Jubei's cooking is said to be on the same level as a high class hotel, while Hibiki and Valkenhayn are good enough to satisfy Rachel's palette, so it's pretty clear that those three are supreme-high class.

In Ragna's case, we only have Bullet's words to go on from a gag reel, and even then she only said that it's "so good". Mind you, we don't really know what kind of standards she has and she was also starving at the time.
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>>158314338
She love to cook vegetable <3
An at least Lambda cook moderately good, or otherwise she, noel and Nu would starve
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What happened to Nu in CF, is she finally dead for real? I hate that bitch
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>NEXT α Awakening the Chaos
What did Mori mean by this?
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>>158314730
"Don't think too hard about it" Nasu
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Your little sister makes cookies for you but it looks like something arakune spit up. What do you do? She's looking at you with the biggest puppy dog eyes ever.
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>>158314958
Shove them in her mouth so she feel how they taste
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>>158314571
Sure, not everyone in each category has the same cooking ability; these are just general guidelines. High are characters who had their cooking praised by those who tried it, mid are those who can prepare a meal but who didn't impress anyone and bottom is for those who send people who eat their food to the hospital.
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>>158314958
Not the puppy dog eyes...
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>>158314698
Hakumen beat her so hard she's bedridden, and now that Ragna's gone her entire existance is meaningless. She's effectively a vegetable being taken care of by Noel and Lambda, at least that's what the epilogue portrayed her as. She could just be really depressed.
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>>158314958
I do eat them, if my little sister is happy then that means we can have sex later
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>>158312173
Noel and Kagura.
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>>158315335
damn so do you think they even bathe together if she's bedridden? The thought of that is lewd as fuck.
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>>158315558
Noel doesn't take baths, it's probably only Lambda and Nu
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>>158315558
They all bathe together every day.
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>>158299716
I'll be playing World of Final Fantasy till CF drops
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>>158315170
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>>158315170
Would Ragna just feed it to deadspike?
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>>158318005
Not if Noel's watching.
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>>158317907
What if Naoto was Terumi?
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I was kinda hoping Terumi was Touya who fucked off into the empty Susanoo unit. It doesn't mske much sense, but at least it would make Touya more than a harem protag.
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>ノエル: 「兄様大好き!」
>ニュー: 「ラグナ! 抱きしめてあげるよ!」
>ラブダ: 「ラグナ。 好き。」
>イザナミ: 「愛してあげるぞ・・・兄様。」

Would a harem end really be a "good" end?
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>>158318512
Touya is the best protag of the franchise though.
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Calling it now that Relius's father made the Sankishin Units.
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>>158317907
So is (Yuki) Terumi a real Terumi or not?

Naoto thinks he is, but Terumi claims he was godz an shieet and I don't think he's ever lied about lore-related stuff. So either Naoto is wrong or Terumi used to be a human, found Susanoo armour first and a mindbreak of some sort ensued making him believe he was always there.
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Kondom is probably disappointed. She seemed to ship Ragna and Nu.
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>>158318750
Do you think she's called Kondom because she's Mori's cocksleeve?
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>>158318850
Mori is saving himself for Noel. No exceptions
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>>158318850
Rood she is my waifu
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On a scale of 1 to 10, how much did the Sayas love Ragna the Bloodedge?
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Does this have to do anything with Blazblue's story or is it entirely its own thing? I just hear Nine and Celica appear.

Like, add anything to BB mythos?
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>>158318313
Naoto is A Terumi, but nothing indicates he is THE Terumi from Blazblue. Sure, timefuckery could've made anyone anything. I don't doubt that Naoto, after becoming pretty much devoid of free will and a mere super-powerful slave of Saya in Amaterasu, could become feverishly mad and forget he ever used to be a human after a few timeloops too many. Yuuki Terumi might've spent billions of years just looking at the loops, so it wouldn't surprise me if he forgot many important details.

But the same reasoning could be made for literally any male character who belongs to Terumi clan as all of them could've turned into snek
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>>158319386
Not much considering they all became whoresluts (""nuns"") after he died.
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>>158319386
Nu loves him the most, fuck the others
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Can never go wrong with Black and Gold
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>>158319418
inb4 Yuuki Terumi's first human body is legitimately the founder of the Terumi Clan.
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What would you guys do if Noel suddenly assaulted you and a group of other /blaz/ posters, holding her guns to your heads and demanding that one of you take her virginity (she's that desperate now!):

a) draw straws;
b) bumrush her and hope you can knock her out before she shoots all of you dead;
c) refuse to do it and die together like real men;
d) fuck each other instead in front of her.
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>>158321175
Is that gay bulge a confirmation of a Fate crossover?
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>>158321175
Black and White is the best color scheme on every character
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>>158319403
It does clarify some things about the Boundary and stuff, and gives a few nods to the original franchise. It's canonically stated in the game itself however that it takes place in an alternate timeline though, so they don't play much into eachother.

Still pretty self-contained though and doesn't add alot to the mythos that's actually relevant to the main series.
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>>158321304
definitely d) if it's me and fellow Maifriends together
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>>158321405
To be fair, aside from the Phase series, Wheel of Fortune, Spiral Shift and Mai's manga's, none of the spin-offs are canon.
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>>158321175
That's a nice color scheme.
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>>158321745
>none of the spin-offs are canon.

What do you mean? They do happen in alternate universes.
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kept you waitin huh....
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>>158322168
time to dab....
hope raggy don see me though heh....
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>>158322075
I mean canon as of the main BB universe. Like Naoto dying in the main timeline against Clavis but in BE he's alive, or Touya dying in our Wadatsumi Incident but being alive in XBlaze.
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Can someone explain who in the FUCK this guy is and why he's so familiar with Relius? He just dropped into the story and I'm told he's from some big ass novel not even translated.

What the fuck? Why didn't they bring that shit over then if they can afford to spend time bringing XBlaze over.
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>>158322550
Him, Young Relius and Valk were bro's. Hell, Relius was even nice to him and gave him advice.
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>>158322550
Naoto is literally like a parallel Ragna. He's met Valkenhayn and Relius in the past. Younger versions of them when they were Immortal Breakers.
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>>158322542
Fair enough then. Yeah, Bloodedge Experience and most of Xblaze take place in alternate universes. The parts of Xblaze with Nine and Celica are from the main universe. Spiral Shift also takes place in the main universe.
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>>158322442
Shit Jubei, whatchutalkin bout, you taught me to dab!
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>>158322873
RAGNA MY DEAR
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>>158322686
That's Relius before he fell to the Boundary (or was it Cauldron, I mix those two places every time) found out people's souls were ball shaped, which somehow made him view them as tools...

I mean if Relius stopped caring about people after finding souls do not exist, I'd get it, but what's so bad about souls existing but being circular?
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>>158322686
If Relius was such a nice guy then, why did he turn out the way he is now
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>>158322550
xblaze is a visual novel aka still sellable as a video game by a video game publisher while bloodedge experience is a literal (light) novel
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>>158323115
He is still a nice guy, just look at how kind he is to naoto
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>>158323295
>>158323115
>>158323085
The boundary must have been extremely painful
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>>158323446
For you
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>>158323085
Phase Shift makes it clear that Relius was an emotionless psychopath even before he fell in the Boundary.
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>>158323718
>>158323446
Was getting Jagaku'd part of your plan?
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>>158323262
Light novels do just fine, though. Numerous series brought over are booming successes with their audiences.
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>>158315558
>>158315694
Lewd.
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>>158319386
incest/10
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>>158323943
not the point

xblaze is within aksys's realm of business (video games) while bloodedge experience is not
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>>158323262
Just market it as the nip harry potter
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>>158323943
Xblaze hasn't sold well either. And LNs would be harder to market than a video game. How many people would buy a BB novel?
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>>158324740
What about the PS3 and Vita(?) sales?
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>>158324889
Don't know. Here are the results for BB though.
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>>158324740
> how many people would buy a bb novel

Pretty much every fan of the story?
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>>158325376
How many would those be? Looking at the steam CPE achievements, only 10% of the people who bought the game bothered to complete the main story mode. Sure, some people would buy them but would they be enough to make a profit?

http://steamcommunity.com/stats/388750/achievements/
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>>158302958
>A character that can end you in 2-3 combos easily and has tremendous capacity to convert off basic pressure
>Needs to be able to steal turns

>>158321175
>412 for lyf
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>>158325563
why are we looking at steam again, I thought BB was console and arcade audience.
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>>158321304
a)
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>>158326085
Because these are the data that I knew where to find. I'd be happy to see the console data if someone has them.
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>>158325941
>a character with shit neutral and short pressure
>in fact could only convert off basic pressure without a weakpoint with a rapid
>and only really memed on people who didn't know the matchup
>with no reversal
yeah...nah
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Will CF be on of EVO's main games next year?
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>>158327102
yeah, it will likely replace Pokken
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>>158327237
Fuck no, Pokken is bigger than Blazblue and GG
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>>158327237
>>158327650
But Pokken is literally RPS the game, just guessing. Didn't a lot of people drop it?
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People with CF tell me, is the online training mode like GG's or is it still shit?
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>>158328085
It's like Revelator's, yeah.
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Can 100% Hakumen beat Gemini Saga?
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>>158329882
Thank god, that timer shit was in BB and Persona, glad they finally got rid of it.
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Does anyone have a tier list for BBCF
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>>158321304
I'll take option e): agree but only if she can get Tsubaki and Makoto to join in.
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>>158330434
>Makoto
>wanting stds
baka
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>>158330196
S: Mai, Carl, Ragna, Norl
C: everyone elae
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>>158330528
>stds
>from a bunch of virgins

Don't kid yourself
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>>158330196
what kind of tier list? tiddie tiers?
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>>158330772
Gameplay
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>>158330196
>>158330809
got this one of dora's

http://www.mmcafe.com/tiermaker/bbcf/index.html?tc=ya0-trhfe1un3gezjpo70mgngvmq7org3h8n1xdcgxf51xjf7nlp20jk4tg77o6p4v93ck9q7p9v4sc2ciege3jxgvbpjro83hnte0gb4sd54r62cikme1cz7qa2gwbx1xig1z-bkf-naBE/Dora
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>>158330987
What faults does Nine have?
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How do I practice hitconfirms?
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>>158330737
>Makoto
>not the town bike
even fucking Naoto got a ride and he's not even from that universe
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>>158331142
She is not flat as her daughter
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>>158331173
Fucker Naoto is a sexy man
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>>158330987
Wasn't Terumi supposedly mid tier, not almost bottom again?
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>>158331142
put block and fatal counter on random and dash up 2a 2b confirm hit or block and continue combo or end combo. alternative is something like 2b 5b if you want a normal starter instead of short starter. can do a jump in confirm hit or block and do a short move to keep it a blockstring/gapless or normal move to continue combo if it hits.

leave counter hit off if you want to learn just hit confirm and later add ch random so you can confirm into ch combos.
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>>158331173
Stop slut-shaming Makoto. There's nothing wrong with a girl being interested in sex.
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>>158331142
play lots of people until it comes naturally
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>>158331464
Stop implying the bitch doesn't have all types of sexual diseases when we both know she does
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Would you guys bully me in lobby if I played stylish? I have some problems with the left side of my body in general so playing normally is kinda impossible
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>Japanese players
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jQQkcpiwGPA
>BTFO Nine in a ft5 with the literal worst character in the entire game
>American players
>complain about Nine all day long
What went wrong?
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>>158331823
>a person of higher skill beat someone of lower skill
wow
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>>158331764
I dont give a shit about stylish. They have set combos and limited options. Cant do the stupid bullshit oki and oppressive shit of top tiers with stylish eithers.
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>>158331894
>anonymous can't acquire higher skill
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>>158332153
Are you stupid?
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>>158332490
>anonymous would rather spend their time posting meaningless insults on /blaz/ instead of working on the Nine matchup for their character
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>>158332650
You're baiting, gotchu senpai. I'll sum it up for you tho, skill is relative.
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Nine players are fucking scum. Treat them as such.
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What are the cooking levels of the husbandos?
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>>158333738
>>158314167
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>>158333901
That list only includes the highest-tier husbandos and all the waifus.
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>>158334036
Most husbandos never cook, so their cooking ability is unknown. Same applies to most waifus.
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>>158333738
Top tier: Valkenhayn, Hibiki, Jubei
Unranked: Everyone else. Ragna's hobby is cooking whole roast dishes, so he's probably good at that.
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>>158334036
On second thought, if we accept the Spectacles gag reel, then Nine, Trinity, Tao and Kokonoe are all awful cooks too. So the rankings would be:

High: Jubei, Hibiki, Mai, Ragna, Valk
Mid: Celica, Kajun, Lambda, Makoto, Tsubaki
Bottom: Izanami, Kokonoe, Nine, Noel, Taokaka, Trinity
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>>158334273
Noel is so bad she really deserves to be in a class of her own.
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Is there a tier list of how big of scumbags the people that play certain characters are?
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>>158326324
>shit neutral
>has a teleport dash

holy shit are you retarded?
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>>158334859
>forward dash has no invul at all
>good
Are you?
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>>158335051
>no invulnerability
>passes through attacks and projectiles without taking dmg
>no invincibility

????
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>>158334859
>>158335254
I do believe that you are a baddie.
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>>158334273
>Kokonoe, Nine, and Trinity bottom
Magic and cooking don't seem to mix
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>>158335254
>has invul
>but can't dash through carls Cantata
What the fuck are you talking about
his backdash can tho
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i'm glad only like three people play carl online so i don't have to deal with his lunacy
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>>158336493
It's gonna be four when I get CF!
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>>158335254
Actually after looking it up I found Forward Dash = 20 frames (7-10f invul.) for CP.

Three frames of invul in the middle of the fucking dash HOLY SHIT anon, are you RETARDED
>>
Reminder that Trinity's entire subplot is stopping her evil ex-boyfriend :V
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Reminder that Mai's entire subplot is fucking nothing
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Reminder that Relius did nothing wrong
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Reminder that Hibiki has no subplot.
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>>158336784
Reminder that Kazuma was never her boyfriend. It's all in her head.
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Reminder that Noel cooks the most delicious food.
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>>158337226
no
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>>158337226
>joke ruined because I accidentally the wrong pic
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>>158337074
I wish they had a final confrontation between Kagura and Hibiki. And also have him actually throw knives during the fight.
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>>158337226
Fuck off Mai, you backwards freak.
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What is Hibiki's VS Kagura winquote?
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should i stop trying to learn kagura in cpe
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>>158337425
Hazama likes it too.
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>>158337947
>Nu
How does that fucking happen
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>>158339191
She can fly. She launched herself into the wall.
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>>158339191
It's like condensed hell
Who knows what that does to a person
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post some dumb tsubaki quotes/screencaps
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>>158339489
>>
OSTRACIZE NINE PLAYERS

MAKE THE SCUM PLAY THEIR OWN KIND AND ONLY THEIR OWN KIND
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>>158339191
You can't taste the food if you're comatose.
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>>158339867
git gud
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>>158337947
Pointy. Tsubaki. Tits.
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>>158340180
it's very cold inside that restaurant
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Is this a crime?
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>>158341603
>tsubaki smiling at this scene
what a depraved whore
>>
Anyone want to netplay CF? USA, JP copy
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>>158337401
There was never a final confrontation shown between them because it would be too gay for the censors.
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>>158341807
Do you play Nine?
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>>158341835
Nope
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>>158341603
That reminds me, is Tsubaki the only one Mai didn't make out with?
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>>158340125
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>>158331823
Damn, dat Noel.
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>>158341902
Mai got kissed by Makoto once and had to kiss Shiori at one point in order to use her Intermediary Grimoire power. She has never kissed any of her other friends.
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>>158337142
I know right, and yet that doesn't stop all of the fanart...
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>>158342024
She ate their tears though.
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>>158342078
She tasted the tears of all her friends at one point, but I don't think this counts as making out.
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Are Nine players the ultimate villian of Blazblue?
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>>158341603
maybe carl wouldn't have turned out like such a little shit if he just got his shota dick sucked by makoto
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>>158341885
Who do you play then?
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>>158322873
mori think he slick
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I'd play but I have a HK copy!!!!
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Is this girl cosplaying as Noel? Why is Mori with her?
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>>158342928
>cosplaying as Noel
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>>158343468
Which idol master is this?
>>
guys I need halp.

I've been playing this game for a little over a year, and by play, I mean I get bodied by hard mode arcade an average of 6 times before finishing it. I'm pretty much beyond help in terms of technical skill. I'm looking for the most spoonfoodering reading materials or videos ever. Anything that will help me put together a complete routine. Stuff like how to confirm a hit, or what the hell a confirm hit even is. I have only a vague idea of it.

It took me over an hour to get down Ragna's 214b, 214d, 5b, 5d, 623d, 236c, 236c combo. Doing movements like "carnage scissor" without buffering it during a fairly long move is not very feasible at the moment.

Anybody got tips for a player looking to assemble an extremely low-tech Ragna?
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>>158342928
Maybe it's just a fan of the series who wants a pic with him
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>>158343554
I'm not much better so no tips, but I got to say, if you have the patience to spend an hour on that one combo, you're not hopeless.

Could be you're like me and it's just taking a while to unlearn a lifetime of scrubby habits.
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>>158343554
Sup senpai, now have you done Ragnas challenges? if not, you should try to do to at least 10(I don't have CF yet, so I'm going by CPEX). But I think you're going for stuff that's too big for your level, try doing like 5B-5C-214A-214D, small shit like that until you can auto-pilot it, then working up to bigger stuff.

As far as videos go and shit like that my monthly data limit has been reached so I can't find you anything, but if you have questions I'll be happy to answer.

Hit confirming is literally that, confirming you have a hit so you can go into a combo, instead of say continuing a blockstring(shit you do on an opponents block to open them up_
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NA lobby's up if anyone wants to play.
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>>158342928
How is this man so damn photogenic.
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>>158342165
What why were they crying?
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BlazBlue Phase V gets announced and BlazBlue now has Dust button.

What do?
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>>158343554
Sounds like an execution problem.

First thing I tell people is don't mash. Each part of the combo should only be input once.

After that breakdown the inputs. Just practice the motions until perfect. Just do 214B after you perfect it 5-10 times a row, add the follow up and make it perfect.

Also it doesn't have to be visual either for practice. say there's a part of a combo you can't get down. Like its j.C into j.623D >... But you can't get to the j.C part just do 5C >623D. It's the same input

Practice creates habits. Perfect practice makes perfect.
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>>158342210
Who are the ultimate hero then?
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>>158344715
A grimoire caused Mai to lose her memories from her time at the academy. Tasting the tears of her friends enabled her to regain them thanks to her ability.
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>>158344996
Carl players
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>>158345124
Are you serious. Holy fuck.
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>>158344542
Are there any Nine players in the lobby?
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>>158344531
> but if you have questions I'll be happy to answer.

I guess the most helpful thing for me to know right now would be some of the easiest ways to hit a DD off of a common starter. So let's say I poke them with 5b. What do my paths look like if the attack hits, or if it is blocked? What moves would give me some forgiving amount of time to do the DD command during them?
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>>158345867
Mai's power allows her to read the memories of a person by tasting them. Tasting the tears of her friends allowed her to recall her own memories from her time at the academy.
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>>158346297
I think he was more referring to how cringy it is
And it indeed is, that's tacky even by fucking anime standards
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>>158346398
This Noels friends love each other way to much.
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>>158346398
>cringy
This word gets used way too much these days.
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>>158346627
That anon used it correctly, though.
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>>158346398
The girls just forced themselves to cry and gave their tears to Mai to taste. I don't see why you think it's cringy; it's not as if she went around licking their eyeballs or something.
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>>158346627
just like the word meme
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>>158346627
I didn't wanna use tacky twice and it fit perfectly despite how common it is

Cheesy, I guess?
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>>158346771
Why couldn't she just lick their hand or something? Why did she have to drink tears?
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>>158346926
Mai accidentally tasted her own tears and regained some of her memories so they decided to go with what had worked. It makes sense considering the nature of Mai's power; if anything the way Es regained her memories in Lost Memories was rather silly. She has complete amnesia, but the moment she tasted some pudding she immediately regained all of her memories.
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>>158347361
>pudding
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>>158347704
>>158347817
>pudding
>it's actually a flan

Japan is dumber than the entirety of BBs story.
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>>158347704
That girl absolutely adores pudding.
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>>158347874
>names of things are different in other countries.

SO DUMB. Why don't they speak american? Dem commyunist england gaywads calling fren- I mean FREEDOM fries chips. We don't call them chips in America, why don't they all speak the words of freedom? It's so stupid why do some countries call potato chips crisps? They are backwards and stupid.
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>>158347817
Meeting and spending time with the dude she had been in love with, her coworker and all of her friends didn't allow Es to regain her memories, but tasting pudding did.
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>>158348445
At least faggot translates to faggot for your ass.
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>>158346101
max range 5B you can only do something like 5B-5C-214A-214D for a combo, and on block something like 5B-5C-236D(deadspike) dash cancel, or 5B-5C-214B-214D(if 214B hits).

Closer you can do like 5B-5C-5D-214A-214D(on hit) or something more advanced 5B-5C-6A-214B-214D(delayed)-5B-5C-5D-236D-dash cancel-other stuff if you're close to the corner. On block like 5B-2C-6B(standing overhead) or 5B-5C-6D-J.D for some other tricky stuff
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>>158347361
Memories are finicky. Even the smallest, most insignificant thing can trigger them. Unlike in fiction, recovering from amnesia isn't always some dramatic or meaningful event. Sometimes, it can be as small as just eating some dessert.
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>>158346101
>>158348738
And by DD I assume you mean like carnage scissors, in which case you can do it off like 5C,5D, 22C off a knocked down opponent midscreen/in the corner, probably some other stuff I'm forgetting off random hits...for combos you can do like
5B-5C-6A-214B-214D(delayed)-5B-5C-5D-236D-DC-5C-5D-22C-632146D if you're close enough to the corner, and for easy midscreen stuff maybe like 5B-5C-5D-632146D
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>>158348074

ROOK SAME
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Why did Es, Lambda, Mu and Nu all want to murder Ragna after falling in love with him?
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>>158349559
Double suicide. Then they can be with him forever.
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>>158349559
Man, it's been four games. Do you really have to ask why Nu is trying to murder Ragna? The others I can understand, but Nu?
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>>158349354
You're a god. Thanks for the help. The main issue for me is doing the carnage scissors input during another move without dropping the combo, so I've been trying to do it during 5d whenever possible, but 5d isn't always available. I end up dropping it half of the time on any move that gives me less buffer time. Maybe I just need to ween myself off of the D-pad.
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>>158350768
No, you use the d-pad and get good with the d-pad. For me at least the stick is too inaccurate. Arcade sticks are made specifically for fighting games, with groves and shit for more precise inputs, but pad sticks are not, leading the d-pad to be far superior.
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>>158347704
What is this expression trying to convey?
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>>158351240
pudding
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Is there a video or a list of all the characters damage lines? Like how all the characters say something when you do a 3k combo or a 5k combo
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>>158349559
Es...wait what? I don't remember this.
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>>158351713
Spectacles gag in CF
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>>158350768
I don't know if this will help you since you're on pad, but what helped me with some other games were videos showing both the game and controller, for example:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4GWQMNPJcYY

Seeing those demonstrated proper timing and reinforced not mashing. Don't think theres any for bb tho.
>>
I'm sure someone else has already suggested this, but I think I just realized who one carrying the sword at the end of Centralfiction is.
It's the Tsubaki Hakumen!Jin lost in the original timeline.
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How did /blaz/ feel upon seeing the spoilers about Celica,Nine,Terumi,Hakumen,Trinity and Izanami dying?
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Gonna close the room after this game.
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>>158353129
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>>158353129
She died
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>>158353275
Yeah, well, I'm not here for all of the threads and I didn't watch the English sub until just now, so then it all clicked.
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>>158353129
She's dead as a doornail, and Tsubakimen references her promise (at the end of CP) with Rachel.
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>>158353132
Good, apathetic, good, a little sad but not in a bad way as he was doomed, apathetic, apathetic.
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Z-ZEA!
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>>158353496
Oh, so that scene's after some undisclosed amount of time, then?
Dammit, I thought they had pulled another backsie with the story.
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>>158353880
>Justicefag mating call
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>>158353930
Probably not that long, it's more like Tsubakimen isn't this world's Tsubaki. She's a Tsubaki from another possibility.

Naoto talks about a woman who called herself something-or-other (he doesn't remember) Justice. Hakumen reminds him of her. So, Tsubakimen might be her. There's a lot of Bloodedge Experience sequel teasers in CF.
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>>158354921
No voice filter, though.
>>
>80 posters
I better see at least half of you in lobbies come next week. You don't get better by shitposting on 4chan.
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>>158356124
You're not my mom. You can't tell me what to do.
>>
Its less even the iframes in the dash so much that he can close space so quickly that he can whiff punish shit at range extremely reliably, and thats not even counting gustav being fast as shit

Azreal didn't need a DP anyway. It was a shitty design decision

He has good AA's, he can use his backdash and foreward dash to escape pressure

Its like they added it so he can remain A tier against the carl/izayois/rachels of the world where the only real way to punch through their oki and pressure is with a DP and even then that doesn't work against carl half the time because you are in blockstun near the guard bonus point
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>>158356124
Netplay is for frauds see me offline
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I originally saved this image on September 15th of 2011, at 5:01:34 pm EST.

And now, 5 years later, I can finally say...

WROOOOOOOOOONG
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>>158356553
Where are you?
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>>158356124
I'll be there to scrub it up
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>>158356124
I don't own the games
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>>158356124
sorry senpai but I play BB for the story.
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>>158357697
Then you're trash.
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>>158357825
He's helping fund your gameplay dumbass.
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>>158358505
I don't care this is my first BB.
>>
So Ragna is the "Man of the Azure" and the "Guardian of the Azure". Are those two things both the same thing, or are they different? If Ragna's the true Guardian rather than Es, does that mean he's standing there in front of the Gate, guarding it for eternity?
>>
So,any of the new songs you guys want a vocal for?
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>>158359458
Es still guards the gate, and Ragna fucked off to wherever. We really don't know what happened to him, or if he's capable of guarding anything anymore.
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>>158360403
But she disappeared
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>>158356865
DLC character Justice fucking when
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>>158360425
Most characters that disappeared came back, and Es in particular is shown guarding the gate in the epilogue. Kinda felt bad for her, it must be boring.
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>>158360403
Es is no longer qualified to be the Guardian of the Gate. She lost her qualification when she lost to Terumi. She no longer has the power of the Azure. She can't even use Murakumo anymore.
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>>158360549
Then that must not be the Murakumo she's carrying at the end. And that must be some other gate she's guarding.
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>>158361094
She leaves and presumably goes back to her own place or whatever.

When Es lost to Susanoo, she tried to activate Murakumo but it failed. Susanoo revealed that the reason it wouldn't work for her was because the Master Unit acknowledged her inability to defeat him. She lost her Azure powers and as a result, lost her ability to use Murakumo's full power. She then teleported to Naoto and asked him for help before turning into seithr, having lost her qualification.

According to both Es and Susanoo, the true Guardian of the Azure is Ragna. Es was basically a placeholder.
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>proper resolution character art
neat
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>>158348074
Why are they not even trying to hide the fact that it's Saber?
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>>158361383
Anon she has huge knockers. She's definitely not Saber. Also, Saber doesn't eat pudding.
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*BOOM*

*BOOM*

*CRASH*

That's all it takes for Ragna to put you into a combo with the intent to rob your health and kill you.
Why don't you own a DP?
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>>158361447
Who?
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>>158361447
If that's the case then why can't Ragna players ever win? They always get demolished by Jins, Carls, Azraels, etc. Hell, even Makoto's better than him now. MAKOTO.
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>>158361447

I do sometimes.
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>>158361297
Where did you find this?
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>>158361616
That Mexican guy on Dustloop ripped it. They're all on the wiki too.
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>>158361218
True, but that was all before the end of the game. Most people think Ragna's part of the Master Unit now, so who knows, maybe it re-acknowledged her before leaving. The final intervention brought a lot of people back to life and probably changed things around that we don't know about. All we know for sure is that she's the one shown guarding the gate at the end.
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>>158361776
>Most people think Ragna's part of the Master Unit now

For fuck's sake, there's nothing that implies this. And did you just miss the part where Es ends up disappearing at the end too?
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>>158361895
You're acting like you missed the part where it positively shows her guarding the gate. Maybe she's out on another mission, she did that once in a while in CF. The important part is that it showed her, with the sword, as guard.
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>>158362087
She left.
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>There will never be an option to play as visorless Nu
Why
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>>158362087
Es was never the true Guardian to begin with. Why would the Azure place her in a role that was never hers after taking it away from her once? That's double-stupid.

The true Guardian was always Ragna the Bloodedge. Es was just a placeholder. A temporary sub.
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>>158362213
Because there's no reason for her to take her visor off. It's part of her battle gear.
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>>158362237
I was never talking about "true guardian." And who else is going to guard it now, Ragna? He's not around. Maybe she's reinstated as a placeholder, only Mori knows.
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>>158362654
And how do you know he's not around?
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>>158362751
Literally who?
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>>158362803
Ragna. Who said he's not around?
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>>158362879
Who the hell is Ragna?
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>>158362751
Good point, that's just an assumption. The end does show him kinda dissolving, then disappearing without an appearance in the epilogue, including at the gate. Fuck it, maybe he's fine and just guarding the gate from the other side.

>>158362803
Go back to your laundry Noel.
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>>158362996
Ah, you're trying to be funny.

But here's the thing: Just because he erased the world's memory of his existence doesn't mean he's physically gone.

>>158363019
Well, the very last scene shows that his sword is gone from where Rachel embedded it. Overall, there's plenty of hope for the "possibility" that he's still out there somewhere. He's the Man of the Azure, the Guardian of the Azure, the one who obtained the true BlazBlue, the one who has the right to command the Master Unit and the bearer of the world's "possibilities".
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>>158363019
>Go back to your laundry Noel.
Noel doing Takanub's (her husband's) laundry?
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>>158363162
>the very last scene shows that his sword is gone from where Rachel embedded it
Naoto took it.
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You know, if the Hazama in Bloodedge Experience really is the same Hazama we know, I don't really see how Naoto's gonna beat him. Hazama's a literal Azure Grimoire.
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I'm really liking Litchi's Color #12. Enough to consider making her my sub.
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>>158363782
In particular, the world of Bloodedge Experience is a world with fairly minimal seithr and no Ars Magus. The number of people with Drives should be far smaller as well. In a world like that, Hazama, who is both an Azure Grimoire and possesses a Nox Nyctores, could cause a lot of damage.
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>>158363789
Please don't say that word. It reminds me that we will never have English voice acting for this game.
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Any norcal heads? Anyone know the players to watch for at gamecenter, which matchups I might lab before I go to get my ass kicked?
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>>158364163
Norcal is free as fuck
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>>158364786
Not as free as Socal
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>>158349559
They are all prime fields of a variety
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>>158361218
our holy outlaw doing it again
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>>158324024
>Noel
>Bigger tits than Nu
Delet
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Is there a reason Pixiv has nothing on nun Noel or Lambda?
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>>158366042
>「ラグナさん・・・・・・愛してる。」
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>>158366080
>webm officially renamed.
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>>158314730
Awakening the Chaos is more or less the original Murakumo theme. Alpha is the name of a Murakumo unit. Alpha Five is the Murakumo unit that looks like Ragna's mother.

Not too far a stretch to make a guess that that's the theme of the next arc.
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>>158367385
>Alpha Five

u wot.
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Why does Es have special interactions and a theme versus Nine and Celica?
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>>158367781
Because Nine and Es were the protagonists of XBlaze Lost Memories, and Celica was also a major character in it.
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>>158367781
Es was friends with Nine and Celica.
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>>158367998
Does she give a shit they die horribly or are in such terrible circumstances? I wish I could see their win quotes toward each other, especially what Nine would say to Es.
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>>158368317
Their relationship is barely played in any way at all in CF. In Lost Memories, Nine and Es became eachothers closest friends, but in CF Nine is throwing too much of a bitchfit to care, and Celica was too young to fully remember. I don't remember if Celica even realized that Nobody was Es.
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>>158368390
Well they never actually meet in the story. Es doesn't start getting involved until after Izanami's defeated.
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>>158368540
Guess I should've specified the winquote, where Nine just seems to not give a flying fuck. It was honestly pretty underwhelming, since it was the one BB character who Es already had a strong relationship established with. I get that they can't put too much stuff from the alternate works into the main series, but if they're going to bother putting her in at all, at least have them share one sweet moment.
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>>158368614
Nine never met Es. She only met Nobody.
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>>158368614
That winquote was pretty funny. Nine coldly says that she'll kill Es; the person who had been her dearest friend. Just goes to show how crazy Nine was I guess.
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>>158368696
She did though, she met Es after she had transported her into the proper world. It's near the end where Es gains her powers. Es couldn't remember who she was, but Nine was fully aware of who Es was.
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>>158368696
Nine both met Es and saw her memories. She would know exactly who Es was.
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>>158368794
Damn how old is Nine in this game, she's already stacked
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Is it better to use d-pad only or d-pad with a combination of pad stick?
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>>158369287
Arcade stick/Hitbox

Fuck doing microdashs on pad
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>>158369287
Pad only
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I'm kind of irritated that Kokonoe didn't crack a little and get in on the family reunion before Nine dies.
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>>158369287
If you're using pad then I would say d-pad only. Analog sticks on pad are terrible for fighting games imo.
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>>158369401
>>158369559
I always use the analog stick...
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Why don't they just make official porn for this series when they already draw lewd shit that is borderline hentai
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>>158369821
Just read Sumeragi's doujinshi and pretend they're official.
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>>158369401
How long did the Hitbox take you to get used to, and is it worth it?
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>>158369821
You know Mori's has lewded drawings of his waifu.
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>>158369923
I use a regular arcade stick my friend, but the people I talk to say its not that bad once you get used to using the buttons.

I did used to play fightcade 3s way back in the day on keyboard and thats effectively the same thing albeit less ergonomic
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>>158369895
can never pretend, I want the real deal and don't see why I can't. They already draw shit so close to hentai anyway, so why no nipples?

I coulda sworn there was a now elusive illustration back in Calamity Trigger where Litchi gave Bang a blowjob
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>>158370067
Because Blazblue is made for teenagers, so they can't start making porn for it.
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>>158370231
Even Fate shit has boatloads of porn
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>>158370430
Fate was made as an eroge and it was aimed at an 18+ audience. And even it hasn't had any official porn in almost a decade.

Blazblue is neither an eroge nor aimed at adults.
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>>158370430
Fate/stay night is an 18+ VN with sex scenes that also ended up drawing in teenagers. BlazBlue is an FG VN hybrid made for teenagers.
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>>158370502
damn was Fate Stay Night seriously aimed at 18+? Reading it and other Nasu shit today and its like it was made for 15 year olds.
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>>158369652
Whatever works for you, but personally I don't like them.
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>>158370624
Why didn't Jin keep working out after the war ended?
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>>158370067
I think this image is the worst, where Mai's big nipples are clearly defined to be the border of her 'top', yet the areola are completely missing.
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Sprite Viewer for CF is online. Not fully updated yet, but you can get your frame data and hitboxes!
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>>158370616
Tsukihime and Fate only had h-scenes because they thought that they would not sell without them. The reason why Tsukihime remake (lol) won't have h-scenes is because type moon is big enough to not require h-scenes to sell a game.
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>>158370971
What is all this computer garble?

I can get a little bit out of it but how do I get the frame data table to work?

I'm really hurting for some updated frame data
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>>158370971
Terrible to browse but at least I found what I believe to be Relius's 41236B. I've wondered what its hitbox looked like for a while.
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Sol's ending:
> Got his waifu back
> Saved the World
> Made up with his rival
> Rival's son and the Valentines love him
> Even patched things up with That Man

Ragna's Ending:
> Saved the world
> Is doomed to forever be locked in the Master Unit
> Forever Alone
> No one even remembers him

Why did ASW give Sol a good end while dooming Ragna to a shit end?
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>>158373727
Because Sol is Daisuke while Ragna is a character
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>>158373727
GG isn't over yet and Ragna isn't in the Master Unit.
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If everyone doesn't remember Ragna, then how did the major events which involved him now go down in their minds?

For example, instead of Ragna stopping Mu-12 at the end of CS, did Jin stop her instead or is it one of those situations where they think on it and go "You know, I have no idea".
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>>158375906
It would be funny if people thought that Naoto did all of that.
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Anyone do es challenge 10 hard mode?

3C > 214D > 5B > 623C >J.D > 6C > ODc > During dash 6C > 632146C

I'm clearly hitting the second 6C, but the combo drops even though I go into super and looks the same as demo. Not pushing them to corner or anything. Just doing it midscreen.
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Playable Touya when?
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>>158376170
>>158376572
>nobody remembers Ragna
>everyone believes Touya did everything Ragna did
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>>158376785
Touya deserves some love
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Is remix heart: gaiden worth my time?
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>>158376808
It's an ok timesink
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>>158376808
Yeah, play it. It's a nice side-story and it's pretty short.
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>>158376808
It depends on how much your time is worth really
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>>158330024
100 Percent Hakumen could go toe-to-toe eith the Black Beast. I think he's probably the strongest character introduced. Mori is just always bodying him by weakening him.
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Does anyone play terumi or is having an overhead not enough to redeem him?
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>>158376905
Terumi had more synergy m8
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>>158367998
>>158368390
>>158368750
>>158368794
Isn't Lost Memories a different timeline?
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>>158377623
Is Amane top tier?
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>>158369401
>can't microdash on pad
>claim it's easier on stick
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>>158377623
The Nine and Celica from the main timeline appear.
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>>158377515
It's hard to tell. Susanoo never gets to fight Hakumen. In terms of using the Susanoo unit Terumi is the master but Hakumen has Zanshin and also Ookami. Hard to tell who's better.
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I want to see Nii-sama
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>>158377947
What do you mean?
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Is there any kind of input shortcut I can do to make Jin dash cancel into 22C easier?
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>>158357139
North Carolina, I've basically given up on finding anyone to play with.
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>>158379406
What city?
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>>158380840
Charlotte. We have some players in the uni area but for the most part it's pretty scattered
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>>158378121
Terumi alone near Cauldron can stand up toe-to-toe with full power Hakumen AND Jubei at the same time, and that's just when being inside Kazuma, not even in a Susanoo unit.

There's no way Susanoo wouldn't wipe the floor with Hakumen if it ever came to blows between those.
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When's the next BB tourney in the US?
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>>158381040
You should come to Play it Again on Thursdays at 6, we always need more anime players.
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>>158377623
It partly takes place in the Boundary so things get weird. Nine and Celica are from the main timeline, but Es and her friends are from another world/possibility.

Confusingly enough, there's a good chance it takes place before and after CF.
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When youuu diiie
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>>158382472
Wish thy living functions will cease
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>>158382853
does she have nudes?
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>>158382446
I was just thinking that in Lost Memories Nine sees their father's memories and stop hating him but in the blazblue phase books she hates their father.
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>>158385276
It's possible they couldn't reconcile and she only grew to hate him more. Or young Konoe reconciling with her father splits off into a happier, more hopeful possibility. Nine/Celica and Es have End Gazer as a versus theme, Celica seems to faintly recall Es but not recognize her, but I'm not sure if Nine acknowledges anything. It's pretty weird.
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>>158385276
Doesn't Nine in lost memories have a fucking grimoire stuck in her eye that the Blazblue is never implied or mentioned to have?
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>>158381647
I've been meaning to go but I don't know anyone there and I keep blowing it off. I'm try to make it out this thursday
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>>158385671
Coincidentally, Nine always puts her hair over that eye. In her Astral heat animation some purple flame is coming out of it too.
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>>158385276
Nine wanted to reconcile with her father. That reconciliation must have failed. And her father did later try to use Celica's soul as fuel for his Nox, so Nine had a reason to hate him.

>>158385671
Nine has her grimoire there. It's why her eye is always covered up and why she doesn't die from Seithr absorption.
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What is Jin's 3k meterless no CH combo?
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Hey 7blaz/ what would it be the best stages based on its designs/details/meanings/special thingys(roses petals on rachel's one)?
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>10
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>>158350768
D-pad is fine, but I personally use the analog stick and always have and I've never had it fuck my shit up. I can do Naotos and C-Aokos shit consistently, for reference.
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>Mai Natsume character DLC will be available 11/1 for $7.99 on PSN for PS4/PS3!

https://twitter.com/aksysgames/status/790970112870273024
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>>158388084
5b 5c 2c 6c 2d j.bc j.bc j.214c on crouching. on standing, i think he gets around 2500 without 25 meter for a D move with something like 5b 5c 2c 3c 214b~c or if you land a 6b you can go to 3k with j.214c dash 2b 5c 2c j.bc j.bc j.214c.
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>>158375906
All Ragna did was wipe their memories of him. I don't think he went as far as to actually change anything. The actual facts that resulted from his existence are still there. Nothing was actually changed.
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>>158391472
>Day one
I'm impressed. Now give us the EU release, PQube.
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>>158391531
So is Jin the only character that can't get 3k off an average starter on a standing opponent?
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Thoughts on this theme? It's like it's good and shit at the same time
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>>158390704
My favorite stages that would qualify for that are are Old Gate, Soulless Movement, Grave Marker of Bases and Altar/Adventus, but Blockaded District, Lakeside Port and Monorail are good too, just not noteworthy.

Really, Blazblue has a lot of good stages, which makes me wonder why they never made a good rain stage since we have fucking Snow Town. Kagutsuchi Port Afternoon would qualify if the sun didn't come out. Why are there like 6 Alucard Castle stages, tho.
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>>158390704
Moonlight Castle, Downtown, Snow Town, Rail Station
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>>158391472
Nice to see they're releasing her immediately.
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>>158392405
Without resources, there are lots. Bullet and Lambda off top of my head only get maybe 2.5k without heat lvl for bullet and wihtout a gravity well for lambda.

Few have the tools Jin has though and give him 25 meter and hes doing 4k+ off any touch. So fuck jin. He also converts for huge dmg off any ch and builds meter like a motherfucker with oppressive pressure. Fuck. Jin.
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Yesterday I went into the Japanese lobby and played about 20 games. It didn't even have any noticeable lag.
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>>158393349
Are you a snail or living on the west coast?
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>>158392646
Same reason there's a fuckload of Cathedral's.
Silent and Symbolic Domination a best.
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What's your favorite stage quote
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>>158395230
And "Reality" is unveiled. What did it want . . . What did it see . . . What did it hear . . . What did it think . . . What did it do . . .
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Why does Nine's teleport have so much invul on it?
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>>158395230
"The devil is not so black as he is painted."

Also "The hand that rocks the cradle rules the world."
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>>158395230
I can't even read those things
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>>158395230
"Hypocrisy is a homage vice pays to virtue."

"Fortune is fickle: it quickly takes back what it gives."
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>>158395804
>He doesn't have the stage wallpapers
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>>158395230
Transcending history, and the world, a tale of souls and swords, eternally retold.
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>>158395918
No i don't
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>>158395230
If God did not exist, it would be necessary to invent Him.
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>>158395524
Learn how to block scrub, Nine is fine
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>>158396107
>This nigga quoting Soul Caliber

I approve, but it's a shame what's happened to that series.
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>>158395230
"Abandon hope, all ye who enter here."
"There is the end of all and all of the beginning is ahead of this gate."
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>>158396107
Man I read that in the announcers voice from SC2
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So does Mai release at midnight tomorrow or what? How was it with Kokonoe?
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>>158397082
This, if anything Nine is a bit weak.
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>>158396107
I like you nigga Soul Calibur 6 when?
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>>158393049

>her

Do you really want to see "her" penis so badly?
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>>158397686
>Tfw you will never play SC2 for the first time again

It hurts.
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>>158397859
ha
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>>158398410
DON'T LAUGH AT MY DREAMS YOU RUDE
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>>158397764
They are buffing her. Theres a day 1 patch when NA releases that makes her DP invincible regardless of spell stocks.
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>>158395918
post them or compile them in an imgur album
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>>158373727

In glorious Nippon, the sadder the ending the better.
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>>158399308
An Anon did have them all in .zip folders, I'll get on that though.
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>>158399184
I hope this is true, her biggest problem currently is that she has no good reversals. Once that's fixed she should be a solid mid tier.
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>>158397883
>shitposting
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What would the BB cast wear for Halloween? I think Rachel would probably be a vampire, Nine a witch, Valk a werewolf and Terumi a ghost
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>>158401749
I think Rachel would make a great beheaded corpse. That's even scarier than a vampire!
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7 and 10 days until CF.
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>>158402330
The last week is the longest.
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Would Meme Magic be classed as a form of Phenomena Intervention, or as a group version of the Power of Order?
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What do you think the cast party would be like for Blazblue?
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>>158322442
>>158322168
Read in jubeis english voice for maximum hilarity
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>>158402586
Phenomena intervention or observation desu
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I wish Celica had really bad depression but hid it via acting really happy to keep others spirits instead of being so happy because she's a child mentally.
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>>158405036
Sounds like me, don't wish for someone to be like that anon, it's really fucking terrible
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>>158397712
She'll probably be available when the store updates.
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>>158405125
I wouldn't if she wasn't a fictional character, but at least it would make her a bit more interesting
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Why doesn't Susan have Mai's sonic theme if he spins that much and Mai got Must Die for her since that's what everyone wants to happen to her
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>>158405568
Because Susanoo deserves his theme
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>>158405568
10/10
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So Terumi is a weaker character than his vessel as gameplay is concerned? There's something so funny about that like how Oni is Akuma's true potential unleashed in Street Fighter but is ten feet below the latter in the tier list.
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>>158406227
Terumi is better in CF
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>>158406227
But Oni has air raging demon you can combo into, which is the hypest thing in the entire game.
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>>158406415
how'd they flip that on its head? Wasn't Terumi the worst in CP
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>>158406831
He got an overhead
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>>158406831
>the worst
no Amane existed
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>>158406831
They gave him an overhead
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>>158407058
>>158407072
just that alone is such a gamebreaker?
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why do people hate nine but not izanami
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>>158406536
>Give him an airdash
>It's worthless

I wanted to show those SF players the power of the Azure.
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>>158407163
Nine fucked cats and is a Celicafag
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>>158407163
I don't hate anyone I love everything and want everyone to be happy
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>>158407163
Izanami actually takes work and isn't completely fucking bullshit like Nine.
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>>158407163
you have to do stuff as izanami and know how to play the game to abuse her broken shit. a drooling cat fucker can rub their barbed dildo on the button sand play nine and have it work because she has screen long normals and is annoying as fuck to play against whether the person is good or bad at the game.
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>>158407492
>Izanami takes work
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>>158407578
Fuck off shitter.
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>>158407830
Are you a butthurt Izanami player or something? Noel takes work. CPEX Amane takes work. Carl takes work. Valk takes work. Izanami does not.
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>>158408013
I play Jin. Now, fuck off shitter.
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>>158408545
How does Izanami require work senpai
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>>158408545
>I play Jin
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>>158407163
Ribcage isn't that good
https://twitter.com/SQuirrel147/status/790684419027861504
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>>158408545
>I play Jin
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What if the power of order is just being really autistic about JUSTICE?
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>ragna doesn't have my 4k autopilot combo
>can't do naoto dash cancels
CF was a mistake
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>>158409767
Dude just play stylish
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>>158409513
Tsubaki would be unstoppable
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>>158409767
>4k autopilot combo
pupwa?
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>>158391624
I don't think he's trying to say that Ragna changed any events. He's just pointing out that since Ragna did and made a lot of things happen, and if all other characters now have no memories of him, then in their minds how did all the major events of the four games take place? For example, does Jin think he went to save Noel from Susanoo alone. Or does Jubei think that the black beast went on a one year hiatus just for the fuck of it.

One possibility, like he said, is that the characters merely know the conclusions without thinking of what affected them, kinda like how phase 1 Valkenhayn knew Rachel was becoming weak but couldn't recall why when she pressed him on it. Or maybe people do wonder how these things happen and just acknowledge that they have collective memory loss.

More entertainingly, maybe Ragna did so much in the story that the master unit was forced to create a stand-in for him, so that everybody could get on with their lives. I doubt Mori would go with this, but it would be funny to see a Toya get credit for all of Ragna's happenings.
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If Ragna got a command grab, like an actually good one, where would he be on the tier list?
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Reminder that Nine players are scum and should be ostracized from the community.
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>>158409767
5b starter still leads to 3.5k. His basic combos and dmg are still good. Thats not why hes shit now.
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The Od Reversal thing is so ridiculous. I block duing Kokonoe pressure then he slides in her overhead with the long animation and I hold 1 button to activate OD Reversal and deal 4k. I was laughing at how ridiculous this is.
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I feel as if CP has spoiled me with damage.
What's the average dmg in CF?
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>>158412546
2 to 2.5k for s-starter and 3-4k for n-starter. od combos looking at 4-7k dependign on starter and meter. adjust for active flow and ch dmg modifiers.
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i would genuinely prefer if makoto wore actual clothes
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>>158413228

That'd be dumb, boxers don't wear normal clothes.

A sports bra and shorts setup would be nice though.
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>>158413310
I don't know, I just really think her design is plenty cute without being practically naked. A sports bra and shorts would be fine, I just find the pieces of cloth on her vagina and boobs kind of extra.
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>>158410271
No. Soul Eater doesn't rewrite memories, it just steals them. There's pretty much just an empty space where Ragna should be in all their memories.
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>>158413228
The jacket alone makes her look perfect!
They should have just had her take it off as a victory stance, I-No style.
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>>158413570
If the cloth is unnecessary, why not Makoto with pasties on her nipples and vagina?

https://danbooru.donmai.us/posts/2512970
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Off-topic post

I hate jump installing so much! I hate it!
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>>158410271
>>158413661
People actually understand the story? How the hell do I start? It's such a convoluted mess and everyone flings jargon around and never explains it or gives enough context for me to understand it.
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>>158413931
Well
Actually pay attention, that's literally all you have to do
Read the library some times
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>>158413763

She should just go naked like ye olde pankrationists.
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>>158414080
Why do that when i can spend that time actually playing the game?
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Makoto wearing nothing but band-aids on her nipples and pussy. Yes/No
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It feels like Hakumens stars charge slower. In CPEX I pressed OD and I had enough meter instantly for for a big confirm. Now I press OD in CF and I have 1 or 2 stars built up.
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>>158413931
You just have to understand how Soul Eater works. Soul Eater eats souls. Souls are made up of memories, so Soul Eater can eat memories. However, the Azure Grimoire can't createanything, only devour. So even if it can devour memories, it can't create new ones to take their place.
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>>158414271
arguably an improvement
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>>158413931
>People actually understand the story?
Kek not really. Not the end anyway, the rest is pretty much explained, just convoluted in a way only a Japanese first-time storyteller can make it. It's full of abstract concepts, and yeah, a shitton of jargon, including multiple multisyllabic names for the same object/person that you need to memorize. On top of that we need to put up with translations that may or may not be accurate.

As far as the end goes, all any body's actually arguing about is whose headcannon has the most weight behind it. We have no definitive answer to what's going on with Ragna, and only have a very general idea of what the other characters are doing and thinking.
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>>158414271
Makoto looks good in everything.
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>>158414271
All I want is >>158413672 honestly
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i remember when we thought arcade was just going to be a CT redo
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Nine
>Cons/Weaknesses
>Movement is somewhat limited
>Unreliable defensive options
>Can struggle against characters who are able to outrange her

GET GOOD AND EXPLOIT THESE

ALSO BLOCK RETARDS
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>>158416840
I remember being disappointed by that.
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Tsubaki
>Cons/Weaknesses
>Built as a 'standard' character so matchups where the opponent can fill the screen with fodder or are able to mitigate risk in neutral will feel restricting to fight.
>That's actually it.

What did he mean by this?
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>>158417246
exploit what
>Unreliable defensive options
literally safe on block dp
>Movement is somewhat limited
>has 8 way dash with hella invul
>limited
ok
>Can struggle against characters who are able to outrange her
who?
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>>158416840
I never thought that. Speak for yourself.
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>>158416840
I remember when we thought arcade would be important
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>>158417365
Stop making excuses and get good.
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>>158418168
Nah I play Carl so I'm fine nigga, how bout you start working on that Carl matchup
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>>158417246
That's like the opposite of how to actually deal with Nine. You should be doing what Fenrich did and apply retarded amounts of pressure so she isn't allowed to stay at mid to long range and do her wizard shit. You can't let her run her gameplan on you, just gotta get in there and give her the barbs
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>>158418627
That's what I do as Hibiki. Just RTSD and I either win or lose.
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Could the best player in /blaz/ beat Fenrich
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>>158418827
fenrich is the best player in /blaz/
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Arcsys just trolled everyone who bought the Hong Kong version. Since you can't connect to player rooms and ranked against other regions. And only a few people are using the Hong Kong version.
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So Jubei and Glassfille will be the DLC characters?
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>>158419230
Kajun.
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>>158419202
>dumb gajin buy japanese version for early gameplay
>dumb gajin buy hk for early english
>break hk version
>dumb gajin have to buy NA version now
and I raff
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>dustloop
>only good players and mods are allowed to contribute

Dustloop is the reason anime fighters are dead in NA. So much faggotry from the people running that shitshow.
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>>158419687
discord has killed dustloop tho
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>>158419687
Fuck that Dustloop should stay dead.
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>>158419687
You want Naruto69 sharing his purple grab loops?
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>>158419687
What's wrong with that screencap?
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>>158419808
>Ancient shitty forum vs concentrated faggotry chatrooms

why can't there be a good solution
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If only there was some sort of website where you could like...make posts and talk about subjects without having to make an account, and compile important relevant information at the top of a discussion channel, and perhaps have a limit on the amount of posts so that it doesn't get too cluttered and a new discussion channel would have to be made...
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Hibiki wants to kill Kagura?

Not because he's jealous of him being his superior or anything either just because he secretly wants to murder people?

Does he want to live a quiet life? It's so weird its not even hinted at in BBCP
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>>158420559
I think you're on to something anonymous
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>>158419202
Fuck asw. I bought the HK version to support them, but now I'll be pirating the rest when I'm done storyfagging.
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>>158422458
>being a storyfag

serves you right desu
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>>158421541
I'm pretty sure it was just to give him /something/ to get bent out of shape about, otherwise he would just be Kagura's dejected ninja wife. They don't even make a hint to it once in story mode either, that's how little it matters.
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Naoto x Makoto OTP
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>>158419202
>People didn't just preorder the NA version for the demo and take the month wait
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>>158423223
Must be his first fighter. We all gotta start somewhere.
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>>158419687
Nothing wrong with that post.
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>>158423237
I support this
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>>158423237
>Dicking a squirrel when you have this
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>>158424452
why not both
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>>158419687
How are they going to determine who the good day 1 Mai players are

>>158424452
Sorry friendo but Makoto has the superior hips and tits
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how much will mai be in yen? 800? hoping i have enough on my account left over so i dont have to buy another psn code.
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>>158407159
It's a fast overhead. Like 20 frames. Considering the fact his 5b and 2a are +, he has a (seldom used but useful) command grab, and his OD is even more damaging this is actually debatable as far as I've played him but on average it's true due to 100 meter off most anything, you have a decent character.
But when people say he's good they mean mid tier. Not lowest-tier kind of good. He's still considered worse than say, CF Makoto since his pokes are still worse and his pressure is much more predictable.

Also, I really don't understand all these people underrating CF Ragna. He doesn't have A tier damage anymore but he's nowhere near shit, not even just the 'shit' of the mid tier.
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>>158426181
any touch with od is 7k. saying it does even more dmg is an understatement.
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>>158424794
She also has all types of stds the disgusting skank, so low tier as far as woman go
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>>158426462
nice headcanon
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>>158424794
Someone with a experience in playing fighting games will be able to contribute better than someone who has only cleared the story mode and thinks that 5AAAAAA is a combo.
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>>158426181
Yeah, Ragna has easy damage, even if it's not amazing. He's one of the easiest characters to get 4000 with, though breaking 5000 is a bit more difficult. Compare to Naoto's, whose optimal combos can all break 5000 very easily, but they all generally require a bit more effort from the player.

Unfortunately, the only things that Ragna really has going for him anymore are having three good normals and a strong DP. He's too straightforward and predictable, and he lost his corner carry.
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>>158426396
That's objectively wrong though.
You only get real bullshit damage with 100 meter stocked before OD and active flow. Otherwise you're landing a 5B, or a C/D normal, and that's pretty standard for a lot of the cast.
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>>158426786
Ah, meant to clarify: those normals with 100 meter is when it's standard to do the 6-7k range anywhere on screen. If your start out with 0 it's more than most of the cast, so higher average. Usually 5-5.5k. Bunch of characters have AF EA ender flow routes too so yeah.
It's probably why the hype died for him already in tournament play.
>>158426783
Don't disagree with that, he's just not low tier by any measure. He's like a golden standard for what consitutes well rounded with the damage to win, rather than a cut off line for 'it's shit'. People ride Fenrich's dick too much especially considering his brother's a meh Ragna and he seems to sandbag playing him
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>>158426549
>walks around half naked for no reason
>kagura has hit it
>likes to devour little boys, likely fucked Carl and Naoto
>probably goes into heat and fucks hundreds of men daily
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>>158427315
that's extremely hot
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>>158419202
It's like they want an entire region to stop buying their games.

I guess they're doing so well financially that it doesn't matter though.
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Does Taokaka have any fans? I just noticed no one really talks about her or even plays her.

Hell, I just realized she exists in CF because she has almost no story relevance.
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>>158419665
>>158422458
>>158423240
>>158427764
Is this even confirmed guys?
We know that last HK patch was fucked because some people got 1.02 and some got 1.03 with Mai. And being able to play JP copies in Arcade for some reason while being unable in others is just weird.
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>>158428028
yeah she's completely irrelevant and barely anyone plays her
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>>158423237
Makoto will move on to another young boy.
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>>158428028
I like Tao. She's fun to screw around with, but she's just the comic relief/cuteness enhancer. Not that I mind that, but still.
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does ps4 have laggy stages or is it the ps3 plebs that require specific stages?
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>>158423237
>Makoto actually is sort of into a guy for once
>it's a guy with no less than four women on his dick from literally decades past in an alternate fucking timeline
I hope Ragna erasing all memories of his existence by extension erased any of Naoto in the mainline. Imagine Makoto in a few years thinking 'maybe I let that one get away...' even when it's in all ways an impossible catch.
I couldn't take it.
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>>158431506
What? Makoto was into Jin and she also liked molesting Carl. She's literally the only BB girl who has shown interest in multiple men.
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Keeping track of Nine spell combinations is one of the hardest things in the game. Honestly, I'd say only Carl is harder to play well.
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>>158432189
>into Jin
Hardly knew 'em before the NOL so I can't say she got to know Jin when saying that. Because, well, he's a misanthropic asshole putting on airs.
>liked molesting the shota
Being fun to molest and being into aren't the same thing. Unless being into is taken one way. Then maybe it's the same thing.
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>>158432669
Jin and Makoto met regularly at the academy. They weren't friends, but she knew him pretty well.
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>>158432769
Hell no she didn't. Jin was nowhere near honest regarding his personality when he was at the academy. Hence putting on airs
I mean if you want to take being into as being as shallow as possible sure.
Man whatever, I just wanted to sink that ship canonically.
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>>158432963
What do you consider Jin's true personality? The time he was batshit crazy in CT? That wasn't his real personality. Jin was pretty distant and not friendly but that was simply due to him thinking that his brother was dead.

And Makoto was attracted to him. Naoto isn't the first man she liked. Hell, she might have even liked Kagura at one point.
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Why is Ragna so loved by everyone? I find him to be one of the most unlikable protagonists in anything ever.
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>>158433381
fuck off platinum
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>>158433302
> Jin was pretty distant and not friendly but that was simply due to him thinking that his brother was dead.
He was smiles in the honor student sort of way in the academy. Not like that in the NOL at all.
>And Makoto was attracted to him. Naoto isn't the first man she liked.
nobody's even saying otherwise
seriously whatever at this point, I literally gave you the reasoning. Makoto don't give two nuts about Jin after high school and seeing him again would probably have closed any lingering thoughts off pretty hard. She's never gonna see Naoto again and Naoto isn't secretly a huge jerk with lots of personality issues.
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>>158433381
I'll bet you're way more alpha than he is.
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MAI NATSUME PLEASES FLAT CHESTS FOR FOOD! OHOHOOH! You know you missed me, /blaz/
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>>158433381
Stop trying to ruse us.
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>>158433675
My point is that Makoto was into Jin and got over him, might have been into Kagura and certainly got over him, so there's no reason to think she won't be able to get over Naoto.

If anything Makoto's attitude of being to get over a dude she had a crush on is healthier than that of all the other girls. Celica, Litchi, Mai, Rachel Trinity and Tsubaki all fell in love with one guy after which they never showed any interest in any other man and simply pined for the guy they loved for years without ever forming a relationship.
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>>158433926
hi maifag
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>>158434117
Not him.
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>>158434084
So your point is that having one love valid love interest never to be seen again is not worse than others in the series. Because the Jin thing is obviously a highschool crush with closure, the Kagura thing's got no context whatsoever and she hates him. You know, that also has closure. And it's alright because there's worse off girls.
That's got nothing to do with what I was even complaining about man. It wasn't even a strong complaint about writing or anything and you're splitting hairs.
Come on. "She found a nice guy who wasn't a jerk with problems or a dirty playboy but will never see them again and that sucks". That's all I was saying. Like I get correcting the definition of being into but at this point this conversation is completely off rails. I don't get why you're trying to prove things I didn't argue as a supplement and there's a obvious difference between any other man and the case with Naoto in being one is a child and the other two at least proved themselves jerks.
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>"Eve..ry..thing...is..rea.dy"
>"My...bro..ther...is...sexy?"
>"Make....Her...Go...North!"
>"Make...You...Go...Nuts? Why of course, brother! I thought you'd never ask!"
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>>158434548
What I'm saying is that Makoto will be able to get over him. She won't pull a Celica and lock herself in a church to wait for Naoto's return for the rest of her life. Makoto's ending doesn't indicate she has any lingering attachment to the guy.
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>>158434718
She'll find the next dick to chase like she always does
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>>158434718
>he won't pull a Celica and lock herself in a church to wait for Naoto's return for the rest of her life
Nobody was fucking saying that
that's like been this entire conversation is you trying to put words in my mouth
I literally said it wasn't a strong complaint. I literally mentioned how vague and not-strong said complaint was in the quotations. 'Oh I might have let that get away' does not equate to 'i'm going to be a nun now , fuck men forever until Naoto comes back I will only have his dick'.
Fuck dude, I only said 'imagine'. Not 'she will'. Not 'she's definitely'. I never said 'she will never get over Naoto'. Goddamn you are the most no fun allowed guy to talk about fictional characters with.
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>>158428028
>Does Taokaka have any fans?
They all died years ago

>even plays her
A small handful of players
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>>158434992
I never claimed you said she'd swear off men. I was simply drawing a contrast between Makoto and the other girls' attitude towards their crushes.

I suppose Makoto could think back to Naoto as that nice guy she had once met, but she has a very forward-facing personality. It thus seems plausible that she'd be able to find someone else and thus get over any lingering attachments.
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>>158399875
Were they posted here? I must have missed them.
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I'm starting to see why Fenrich said he's scared of good Noels
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>>158436132
>I never claimed you said she'd swear off men.
So you're saying
> It thus seems plausible that she'd be able to find someone else and thus get over any lingering attachments.
Because you think that I think I wouldn't think she'd
>swear off men.
?
No, you're saying that because you think that's what I think and I never said or thought this. I just thought she'd think of him as that guy.
I mean your post right there is just implying you're thinking what you didn't say. I'm not even saying anything along those lines in the first place regarding her future. I don't know what else to say about it. This has turned into semantics.
You want to talk about a different ship to sink or something?
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>>158436479
Can't we all have a healthy KazumaXTrinity conversation?
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>>158436267
Anyone still playing noel at this point that's serious about the game at all is probably pretty good considering all the bullshit you have to put up with to play her.
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>>158436267
The Kagura/Noelfags will find a way to wipe the floor with people. Maining a low tier is a labor of love and dedication.
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>>158436793
but i only have endless nol office faggots
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>>158436793
That's..
the ship I wrote for the last line before deciding to rewrite it, what are the actual odds
You my nigga now. Crackships 4lyf
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>>158437218
Sadly there will never be a real ship of the glasses with the shy snek :c
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>>158436793
As long as it's Kazuma and not Terumi or Hazama
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>>158437404
>>158437534
Hazama has Kazuma's memories and fulfilled Trinity's wish to see Kazuma once again in CF.
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>Jin has been referred to as the world's "antibody" that will cure the "darkness" that Ragna is; from this statement it can be presumed that the Power of Order is an opposite element to the destructive nature of the Black Beast's darkness or Ragna's power to change the world. This is the reason why Ragna is told by Jūbei that Jin will become his greatest enemy. Jūbei also said that the Power of Order is neither good or bad, only a force that will oppose Ragna's already great power in order to maintain balance in the world.

I fell off following the story a long while ago but did anything actually come of this
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>>158437672
What do you mean?
Jin is the final fight of the franchise, he went out trying to stop his brother, as he was born to
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>>158437590
It's not precissely the same given that he's now on his ddventures of "How to best sociopathy for dummies" in Naotos world
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>>158437672
It basically makes Jin a pseudo-Observer/Onlooker. He uses it to stabilize people's existences, prevent himself from losing memories due to Phenomena Intervention, gives him an overall boost in stats for fighting, etc.
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>>158437672
it was just made up bullshit to explain away insane faggot.
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>>158437950
No that's Yukianesa
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>>158437672
Kind of, but it's explained pretty shittily. Power of Order is an excuse for Jin to do shit he otherwise wouldn't be able to do in CP and CF. Like him shrugging off Immortal Breaker, or just about everything in CF. Power of Order in general is badly explained.
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>>158437802
And he failed, so nothing came out of it.
Nobody was important to the plot except Ragna and Saya, aka Mori's self-insert and his waifu. Fucking Mori.
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>>158438605
It's true
I doubt there was even a Jin in the Age of Origin he's so unimportant to that plot point
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>using alternate colors
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>>158423237
No, Makoto married Noel at the end of BBCF
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>>158438605
You have to remember, the only reason Jin failed is because Ragna cheated, in fact, Ragna only succeeded in his gamble paying off because he had to keep Rachel,Jin and Noel in the dark about his true intentions right up until it was too late for them to stop him. Do you really think Ragna would of been able to defeat Noel or Jin had they had been on guard and knew Ragna's intentions before hand? They love him too much, Ragna may of gotten stronger but there's no way he could beat a serious Noel and Jin teaming up on him especially if they knew that their precious memories of their Nii-san/Nii-sama would be on the line. Rachel he may of been able to overcome her with force because while Celica restored her at the cost of her life, Rachel still wasn't back to full strength. Ragna probably did it more as mercy to her, make it as quick as he could. Too bad he underestimated Rachel's tenacity, she can still feel him in her heart, the same probably holds true for his siblings as well, Noel definitely remembers the promise to look after Lambda and Nu.

How fitting for an idiot like him to underestimate his siblings love for him.
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>>158439669
I'm not gonna lie.
Es' normal color is the best one she has.
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>>158439857
Ragna would have beaten Jin either way
way.
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>>158439669
The default palettes are some of the best palettes imo, but every character has at least 1 really good non default.
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Why aren't you maining the most honest character in this game?
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>>158440432
I don't doubt that, but beating Jin with Noel as back up would of been impossible for him, that's why he took her out first.
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>>158440432
Ragna might have lost if Noel and Jin were both at 100% and teamed up against him. He wouldn't be able to hold back if the Sword of the Godslayer and the Power of Order fought him at the same time, and I'm not sure if he'd be able to go all out against them. Since Jin was weakened and Noel was confused, he was able to beat them both while holding back.
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>>158441318

WHAT'S WITH THAT STUPID FACE?
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>>158441318
but i am playing hibiki
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>>158441341
Nah. By that point, he'd obtained the true BlazBlue. If he seriously went all out, I think he'd win. Whether he'd be able to allow himself to is a different story. All of Ragna's powers are built around tearing and devouring so if he were to go all out, someone's probably gonna die.
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>>158441318
I am though
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>>158441318
I'll be honest with you.
She got slow overheads, only one has reach, it also happens to be a special that isn't even distortion cancellable. Her command throw might be the slowest in the game and hits high only.
She still has Kagura range with like 1.5 times the speed, some of the most annoying projectiles in the game and her half second self buff brings all her specials from mediocre to fuck you in said half second, hit or block.
I give her a 6/10 for netplay honesty. Only real weakness is low damage without buff and being able to DP her overheads on reaction.
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>>158441318
Naoto's the most honest character in this game, and he's trash because of it.

It's hard to be honest in a game full of bullshit.
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Why didn't Ragna rebel against fate?
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>>158441748
He's trash because of shit normals, a shut Drive and a shit gimmicks that restricts him when it should actually open up his possibilities. Enhancer sounds neat on paper, but in order for it to be balanced, his non-enhanced moves have to be on the lame side. So Naoto basically HAS to use Enhancer every chance he gets.
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>>158440630
There's a terrifying lack of BANISHINGU FANGU
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>>158441847
But he did. He didn't turn into a monster, he didn't turn into the Destroyer of the World, he saved the Origin herself.
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>>158442021
Meanwhile, top tiers have better nonenhanced skills and combo paths and no real resource or gimmick restricting with them.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HJFBbzOJnxI
This could be in the game and they would still be completely in character.
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>>158442103
Yeah I didn't even finish the video
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>>158442325
He started using them in the second half but he could at least use Raid if he wanted to go for the Crusader.
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>>158441541
lmfao
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Who is the SHITTIEST character to play in Central Fiction? Like if you play, you're gonna think "man if only I played top tier or ANYONE else" very, very often.

Also, why? Mainly for someone interested.
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>>158442490
Naoto, unless you have Crusadermind to overcome those heathens
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>>158442490
Are you trying to imply platinum is fucking bad
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>>158442612
Is Naoto worse than Kagura if the latter is even bad anyway
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God damn, did Mori set the stage for more of Naoto's adventures. He's basically Ragna's uncle from another possibility world.

Think about it, Saya Terumi is taken away by Valkenhyne and Relius, suddenly clone prime field pop up that looks like her, one in particular being named number five, this one gives birth to Ragna,Jin and Saya and dies in combat with Jubei, apparently a brutal battle in which Jubei did not even leave a spec of dust of her left.

Hazama jumps into a cauldron, Relius walks into a cauldron.

A man calling himself Hazama as well as being dressed exactly like game Hazama appears at the end of BE volume 2.

So the break off point is either or not BE Naoto can save his sibling from herself. Hmph, as expected of Mori, he's going to tell the same story again but from another barely different prospective. Es's adventures aren't over either, Why was she of all possibilities, chosen, where did she go at the end, why does she still have her azure powers as a human and finally, does she keep those powers upon her return to her world if that is in fact where she went?
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>>158442968
>Hazama appears at the end of BE volume 2.
For fucking real?
Are they going to fight?
I don't want my mains to fight
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>>158437672
To me one of the biggest letdowns of the story is no, nothing really came of Jin curing "the darkness that Ragna is." The opposite. Not only were they not ever 'greatest enemies', but in their final fight Jin was trying to stop Ragna from self-sacrificing. To make it worse he was nowhere near 100%.

>>158437950
>>158438320
These two are absolutely right.
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>>158442756
Kagura at least has damage, range. and a projectile. Naoto has to work immensely for the first, barely has any of the second, and nothing for the third.
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>>158442968
>Es's adventures aren't over either, Why was she of all possibilities, chosen, where did she go at the end, why does she still have her azure powers as a human and finally, does she keep those powers upon her return to her world if that is in fact where she went?
She talks like a robot in CF and realizes she wants to protect the memory of her friends, so it's possible the backstory of Lost Memories and its events occur then.
>>158443098
Naoto says he's been "through hell" because of Hazama and doesn't like him. Plus he's adamant that Hazama survived the Boundary.
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How do I survive a week's wait?
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>>158443558
Get a feel for a new character you could possibly sub that isn't a new roster member.

I'm currently practicing Relius.
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>>158443413
Come to think of it, Naoto doesn't seem to recognize the Azure Grimoire. So I guess Hazama hasn't used it against him yet.
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>>158443413
>She talks like a robot in CF and realizes she wants to protect the memory of her friends, so it's possible the backstory of Lost Memories and its events occur then.

Anon,might be right, this event is what spurred Es into trying to right her world's future multiple times and since she makes no reference to the events of lost memories as well as Nine nor Celica at least acting like they recognize her in their win quotes and vise versa for Es and with how their battle theme is the opening for the game. It's like a prologue of a prologue. Prologception.

Fucking Mori!

At least that's what I would say, all we have for the next couple of years is conjecture and assumptions, Mori took care to make sure he still had his villain sues to use along with his tentacle ape monster and even his core protagonist should things go sour and he drags him back to get sells.
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ragna dies[/spoile]
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Why are there two Tsubakis in the epilogue? There is one that talks to Noel and one that threatens Rachel.
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>>158444045
It is a mystery.
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Fuck off Neneko. Your serious was ecchi harem bullshit! Take your mysterious over to Hyouka or something
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>>158444045
It's probably that Izayoi from Makoto's Arcade
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>>158444045
No one really knows, the most prominent theory right now is that the Tsubaki at the very end is a future Tsubaki from an alternate possibility. She says it's been a while since someone has called her Tsubaki, and Rachel questions that. The other part of the theory is that she's the "something or other Justice" that Naoto talks about.
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>>158444045
Maybe they're both the same Tsubaki and the Rachel scene was 10 or 20 years in the future.
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>>158444204
Thing is if this Tsubaki really is from an "alternate possibility", why the fuck is she coming to "fulfill her promise" with this world's Rachel? Isn't that completely illogical? I mean, if I made a promise with you, and assuming I had the means to travel to parallel worlds, what, exactly, would it accomplish to fulfill that promise with an alternate version of you?

So assuming it IS an alternate Tsubaki, it seems that her incompetence is universal.
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>>158444419
tsubaki is the least logical member in the cast, so it's fitting if that's how it works out
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-NEXT- α Awakening the Chaos
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>>158444419
Either it has to do with the promise she made at the end of CP (kill Rachel if Ragna dies before being killed by Jin or Tsubaki), or it's some other promise she made with the Rachel of her possibility. It's vague as shit. And then she decides to put down her sword just so that Rachel will suffer more as she fumbles after the merest hint of hope.
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>>158444681
I'm saying that there's no point in fulfilling that promise with a Rachel that isn't from the same timeline as her own. It's a completely meaningless action.
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>>158444806
Not if the Rachel of her world did something stupid like ask her to kill Rachels that were pining after Ragna. But Rachel seems to be expecting her anyway, so it's probably not that.
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>Naotofags on /blaz/ thinking they'll stick with the character.
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Actually, this is kind of interesting. Rachel probably doesn't remember Ragna. So that means she shouldn't quite understand the details of that promise.

The original promise was that Tsubaki was to use Immortal Breaker to kill Rachel if Ragna were to die. For Tsubaki, that promise would have been rendered moot the moment Ragna rebooted the world without any memory of him. From Tsubaki's perspective, the contents of that promise would have been "If _____ dies, kill me". Since she wouldn't know whose death is supposed to be the trigger, she wouldn't be able to fulfill her promise.

So then, why has Tsubaki come to fulfill a promise that she logically shouldn't be able to fulfill? And also, why the fuck is she threatening Rachel with Okami? You can't kill Rachel with Okami. You'd need the Zero-Type Izayoi's Immortal Breaker for that.
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>>158445467
>He doesn't have dedication
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>>158445467
You underestimate my masochism and love for hype.
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>>158445694
You don't even have the game yet though....
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>>158445804
I have the demo dude
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>>158446124
Keep up that optimism once you actually play people, okay?
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>>158446329
Will do
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>9
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>>158448679
Has fine breasts
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>>158448679
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Tonight's a good night.
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I main Amane.
Why don't you?
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>>158451003
>playing drill ptsd
That's like playing taunt loops
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>>158450319
This isn't /llsifg/ anon
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>>158451086
:3
Who's your raibu?
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>>158451305
Nontan
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>>158415950

All I want is to cover Makoto's entire body in my semen after filling all her holes with it first and letting it all turn to a crust.

I am a humble person.
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>>158451003
Why do you think I don't?
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>>158438605
You're missing somebody.
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>>158452413
>>158451003
>The sound effect when level 3 drill is blocked
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Think she'll ever remember who the father of her child is?
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>>158454264
She remembers. She'll never forget the feel of that penis.
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ded
like ada
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>>158443853
>Es is the past (the double prologue as explained there)
>Naoto is the future (not the main future, but the future of others and himself due to the possibility)
This used to not make sense
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>>158445563
I seriously think Tsubaki is a symbol of Mori's incompetence.
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>hazama stance bug getting fixed
>various EA bugs getting fixed
>sideswitching bugs getting fixed

I mean its not nine nerfs but its at least a relatively quick post launch bug hunt so I suppose i can't complain
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quick i need to destroy scrubs in an hour
give me ragna combos.
>inb4 5B > 5C > Hell's fang.
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>>158457654
https://youtu.be/D3HvN04HsFE?t=1m13s
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kept you waitin huh.........
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>>158459052
What does THIS MEAN?
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YOU DODGED!?
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>>158459307
It means memes jack
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>>158452413
>Raw drill goes from 0 gauge to lvl 3
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>>158457823
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x0XNqOVHY9E
>This will never get released
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>http://www.inside-games.jp/article/2016/10/26/102963.html
Thanks to Amatsumugi who summarized bits of this, it's revealed that:

>Mori wants to make a reconstruction of the first BlazBlue(CT), whatever it’s an OVA, Movie or Novel. It’s not like he think the previous work is a failure, but more like "It would better if it was more like this".

>He thinks it’s for the best to not write a story for Jin, Tsubaki and the rest of what happens after BBCF.

Though he did say something with regards to Jin post-BBCF.

>In the epilogue, while Jin has recovered enough for it not be any problem in daily life, he is unable to fight anymore.
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>>158463254
Wew didn't expect Jin to be that fucked up. I would enjoy a CT reconstruction actually
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>>158463254
Maybe he shouldn't have tried fighting ragna at the end there
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>>158463402
Me either, I guess Trinity wasn't bullshitting about Jin's body being unable to battle anymore. Man, that's really gotta suck for Jin, 4 games of picking countless fights, many of which landed him in the hospital, he finally does what he was born to do, his brother even left him in charge of the world in case shit goes bad, Now if something really bad were to happen and it needs him, he can't do anything but hope someone else can do it, That means the most powerful beings in his world now are Noel, her sisters, Kokonoe,Jubei and Kagura. The best he can be is a public figure and effective military mind. How sad is that?
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>>158466827
He accomplished his goals, he's got nothing more to fight for in the time being
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>>158466941
>>158466941
>>158466941
>>158466941
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