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No more retards edition

Previously on /tosg/: >>158224237

>Latest Patch Notes:
https://treeofsavior.com/news/?n=693

>Can I play the game now?
International version available on Steam RIGHT NOW. The Korean and Japanese servers are non-steam(Nexon)

TOS Info: http://pastebin.com/3YcrrJkd (embed)

This includes more detailed information, as well as tools, resources, patch notes and official links.

https://github.com/Excrulon/Tree-of-Savior-Addon-Manager

>Cards List:
https://forum.treeofsavior.com/t/list-boss-cards-and-effects/321599

>Servers
- iTOS: Klaipeda (NA), Fedimian (EU), Telsiai (SEA)

>/tosg/ Guilds info:
There is no /tosg/ guild in Varena/Silute/Orsha, if you want one, either wait for someone to make one or roll a Templar.
If Guild is recruiting, please post in the thread.

>Klaipeda
Futureproof (Lolipan)
CuteNotLewd (Plasmagica)
cute (Merigolds)

>Fedimian
CoffeeHouse (Capyba)

>Telsiai
Comfy (Katzenberg)
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>>158293617
retard
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>>158293617
retard
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>>158293649
I created this meme btw.
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Yep, moving on to greener pastures, well, the pastures around here is nothing but sand, bones, and death. But pretty much, did what I needed to do. Eliminated many, many white knights, helped my brother Doom-Lords and my companions the Hue Knights. Thus ultimately helped seal this games fate.

With the insurmountable evidence I was able to find by reading thousands upon thousands of posts, on here, reddit, and even steam, I came to the conclusion that the game is pretty much, dead. Well, its in its death throes yes, but all evidence points out that this game is pretty much a Cash Grab for IMC, to try and milk as much from the whales and those giving the game a shot for awhile, then leave when they see all the bad.

Now to note, I do not mind all the faults, I honestly seen somewhat, problems in other mmos, and they died quick. I actually LIKE this game. Hell I was gonna level a Palaquisitor to be able to greatly help whichever guild on Orsha wants me. Well I joined such a guild but, me and its leader had a difference of opinion, he pretty much claimed that the entirety of every, ToS, related board, all players on it, mostly do not know what they are talking about and that if he says something is fine, but over 100 players says it isnt, then those 100 players obviously must be wrong.
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Post cute!
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>>158293617
>removing things from the OP

Can you fucking end yourself?
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>>158293617

>bullying the beets

retard
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>>158293696
STOP POSTING THIS YOU FUCKING FAG. NO ONE CARES ABOUT SOME RANDOM SHITS BLOG ON THE OFFICIAL FORUMS.
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>>158293617
>no more retards
But this was a game made for them.
>no Ohayou in the OP
See? retard.
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>>158293696
Cuz Logic right?

Anyway, dont worry ill provide a TLDR version. But damn, between the hacking, the cheating, the RMTing, the bad hotfixes, the broken updates, a whole buncha crap that if a developer/publisher gave one whit of a damn for, would have prevented most of this stuff from happening? Well just gotta say, this game wont last too long. Servers will eventually be consolidated. As the average goes down 100-300 a month, oh and apparently, the leader of such guild flat out said Steams own charts is lying. But as the average goes down, IMC is gonna care less and less, and will do whatever it takes to reduce costs while gaining maximum profit.

What this means? Well, more channels removed from more zones, consolidation of servers, and possibly using lesser hardware leading to more lag at certain peak times. It will basically keep getting worse, and desu with you all? If IMC releases another fiasco of an update for Rank 9, they may as well put a bullet in this games head.

You know it sucks, I played RO in its Beta, I loved it for at least 5 years but got bored of it, then I wanted to come back but Renewal happened and I heard all the horror stories of it, so I kept away. I REALLY wanted ToS to succeed, hell id still be playing it, if the guild leader and the guild I was in didnt pretty much proved to me that the community is all around bad and it pretty much broke whatever hope I had in the game.
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>>158293676
retard
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>>158293781
Welp, regardless. Playing ToS and Tree of Forums was fun. Sucks I couldnt see my Palaquisitor to endgame. I honestly really really like the build, and worked hard to level it, and I was looking forward to being able to help the guild with ET runs, and 315s or whatever they wanted to do. But welp, thats life. Most of the guild acted like kids anyway and im just too old to deal with people arguing and b.sing each other and wearing rose tinted goggles yanno? Alot of illogical banter went on in there and I always kept quiet, but I had enough.

Im sure theirs some decent guilds left in Orsha, but I honestly am too tired to look for one or to keep going, and desu, a voice in the back of my mind keeps telling me its all a big waste of time in the end since 1. Game is dying, and 2. Dragon Quest X may finally come in the west, but likely not for at least a year unless SE, or Nintendo, or Sony, or whatever makes some surprise announcement but cmon, they either have to stagnate the updates and start us off between version 1.1 and 1.5 DQX is at version 3.4 btw, two expansions and Version 4.0 fourth expansion is coming so they can take some time to localize content for the west while catching us up to Japan, or take likely an entire YEAR, to translate all of the current game in English, Spanish, and at least French DQ Is very popular in france before giving it to us.
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>>158293726
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>>158293696
>>158293781
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>>158293768
but ohayou is retarded ;)
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>removing Ohayou
>keeping Coffee
Come on. I hate Ofagyou, but it's Coffee that started adding non-/tosg/ first.
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>>158293876
Its some faggot copy pasting shit, dont give him the yous and just ignore it
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>>158293867
Either way, I wanted to take the journey down to the eventual Hell this game is going with a guild, but eh, guess it aint happening. Thus I no longer need to be on this board. Thanks for all the fun and laughs guys, it was fun. Thank-you Doom-Lord Brothers, thank-you Hue Knights for bringing me such joy. Was a pleasure.

TLDR Version. Game is dying. Evidence shows IMC does not care. Game is a cash cow, no guild to be in so no point playing. Really loved my Palaquisitor. Thank-you Hue Knights and Doom Lords all been great. Have fun everyone.
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SHOW ME THE CUTE
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Post cute costumes
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>>158293960
thank u 4 ur insights and amazing commentary on da state of da game

plz can u copy evry post from redit an d offical forums becuz i love cing them
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>>158293918
Capy its fine
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>/tosg/ wants me to play this
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>>158294061
>Implying you will ever get a cute costume when the gatcha patch comes
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downloading Ragnarok Online wish me luck

i love both TOS and RO btw
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>>158294302
me too
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I hope the mafia comes to the meet up looking all cool and stuff!
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>>158293918
> but it's Coffee that started adding non-/tosg/ first.
Not like he had a choice.
/tosg/ quit Fedimian months ago except for very few survivors
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>>158294265
>not having a steady supply of gvg tp
I'll put my faith in rng
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http://www.strawpoll.me/11496293
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that's it i'm out too
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>>158294480
>/tosg/ quit Fedimian months ago
is it that bad of a guild?
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>read OP
>I'm sure klai had more guilds than that
>can't for the life of me think who the other(s) are
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>>158294721
Guild it's fine, its just game being shit,thread being 90% americans and EU server emptyness made people quit
The Rodent should just move to a better game.
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>>158294480
Whos non tosg in ohayou?
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What happened to Kotatsu?
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>>158294230
This game's reviews are forever tarnished due to poorfag BRs brigading because of the (admittedly awful) early access plan.
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>>158294047
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>>158294965
Ded
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>>158294906
>CapyCarryingHisGuild.jpg
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>>158294958
like 10 people
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>Only play healers
>Have a tao
>Have a pd2
What now senpai, should I try the new druid3 meme?
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>>158295196
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>>158295117

Is it July again?
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>>158293918
>even mentioning Fedimian in a thread gets 3 to 5 replies of "MOVE TO KLAIPEDA XDDDD"

And you wonder why we had to add non /tosg/ people?
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>>158295257
Oh its a meme
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>>158295207
How did they bully you, anon?
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>oh you were stocking up on dumplings?
>fuck you, we're deleting them all lmao
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>>158295358
>it's a meme guys ;)

retard
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>>158295117
>NiceBoat
>FOE
>Clover
>TakeItEasy
dood
>Hiraku
Kek
>Empire (Louvain)
???
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>>158295306
I ship Beethoven and capyba
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>>158295354
It's pretty obvious they are desperate as fuck. They always have been. They even down play the effect of a shitty ping and false post as "Europeans" playing on Klaipeda.

Fact is there are no Europeans playing on Klaipeda who have a working brain. Whenever you ask them to prove it via //ping by going to both servers they dodge the question.

It's desperate Klaipedocucks trying to fish more people into their guilds.
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>>158295379
>Was planning on saving a few of them for annoying dungeons
>Had 10 jumbo ones in stock
>it was all for nothing
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>>158295117
>Clover (Karga)
Anon, its time to let go.
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>>158295117
>TakeItEasy
I miss Moonie_
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>>158295117
What happened to Nice Boat?
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>>158295627

God I miss her butt
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>>158295627
I don't, happy he fucked off to /jp/.
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>>158295379
>>158295518
This was known since the start of the event.
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>>158295708
Same fate of Kotastu in Orsha, shit game, shit devs, dead server and people in the guild quit after IMC cucked them the transfer to Klaipeda
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>>158295708
It sank.
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>>158295840
>>158295846
Why didn't they join Capyba?
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>>158295760
second this, but was fun too see his eternal butthurt.
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>>158295940
Because they never intended to stay on Fedimian
Nice Boat was an american guild, IMC promised server transfers and then they came with a "Server transfers? LOL ehehehehe"
Thats when Nice Boat sank
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>muh pop culture references
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>>158295940
People left to other server.
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>while exploring maps bump into dozens of 3 to 4 man guild groups
>mfw alone
>guild mates too busy to bother
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>>158296026
You sound upset.

>>158296010
Good post
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>>158296064
They gave the date the transfer will happen and as far as I know they kept their promise, no? I also missed the boat and am forever stuck on Klaipedo now, but the only one to blame is me for taking a break from the game at the time.
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>>158296208
It was before imc told that. At first it was promised free transfer for anyone.
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Anyone got the image with all the gachapon hats?
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>>158296010
What butthurt didn't he just leave to play WoW?
Or was there some drama I missed out on?
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>>158295117
What's the name of this chat addon? I don't see it within the addon manager. Please help.
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>>158296083
What guild are you in? I quest alone, but that's because I'm a sub-200 shitter.
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>>158296323
and this is why people quit

none of the /tosg/ guilds have any structure to be inclusive

then they don't grow and only a handful do

then they wonder when people quit the game or their shitty guild

cliques are toxic and it's up to the leader to try and make sure they don't form up

if the leader is in the clique and doesn't care, then why should the member care and stay in the guild at all?

it's time to let this meme die that /tosg/ guild leaders are in any way competent
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>>158294702
Fuck off you literal faggot and take your 4 cronies with you. Faggot reddit scum
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>>158296378
Meanie
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>>158294704
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>>158296485
Plasmagica is competent and the best leader of the best guild of cuties ever.
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>>158296485
>been in FP longer than almost anyone left
>still not in a clique or able to identify any in the post-ohayou era
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>>158296485
>cliques are toxic and it's up to the leader to try and make sure they don't form up

And this is why people left ohayou.
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>tfw you hate your clique guild but you just stay for the free tp
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>>158296751
Why are you behaving that way? I don't get it.
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>>158294702
>>158293617
It's decided
You know what to do next time OP
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>>158294702
shittergarden on suicide watch
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Does Kabba's double hit skill apply a debuff to monsters that makes attacks against them hit multiple times or is it just a self buff that only works for the user? Haven't seen a lot of info on Kabba C2.
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Is Oracle/Kabba2 a good farming build?
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Which Klai /tosg/ guild should I join if I want people to do stuff like 290 rush and Saalus with me daily? I have strong meta characters but I can't do these solo, and just trying to join shout parties if they pop up while I'm on and skipping them otherwise is getting a bit inconvenient..

What I'm worried about is there being established cliques for these things and I join a guild to just get left out anyway.

Is there any guild that goes out of their way to include people and help everyone get their dailies done? A fun/social guild chat would be nice too!
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>>158296924
Ponyfag from tosg left game one of first. He was smartest of us after all
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>>158297130
Cute is pretty social and there are people who can do dailies with you!
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>>158297130
>It's the daily guild bait post episode rerun # 224
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>>158297130
Any of them honestly
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>>158297309
retard
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So currently I grind for silver in Vektri Square. Right where all the Rambear spawn. Double pay can let me 2 recipes every couple of kills which is 10k silver since the recipes sell for a bit over 5k each to npc's.

The money is nice but I am wondering if there is a better area for me to get both exp and silver. Currently level 184.

I prefer areas that aren't generally contested so that the shiny mobs are all mine.
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>>158297398
What's your problem?
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How do you make silver in this game if you don't have an dina bee afk farmer?
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>>158297481
visit mmotank dot com or whisper Kirito
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>>158297481
You make a 145/240 farmer or farm rare items to sell. There is no easier way to make money than the necro afk but there are faster ways.
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>>158297481
You make a dina bee afk farmer
You make a scout3 or pd2 145 farmer
You farm dollars at mcdonalds and use the dollars to buy silver from chinese
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>>158297130
CnL would be a pretty good choice.
There's typically 15-18 people online in the evenings, a lot in the 290-320 range.

>goes out of their way to include people and help everyone get their dailies done

No one is really going to do that anywhere, just don't be a shy nerd and say "anyone wanna rush"
If people want to they will join.
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>>158297546
>>158297616
Real money isn't an issue, but I don't want to get banned
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>>158297130
>I'm worried about is there being established cliques
Current OP literally has the only guilds that never had this problem, just whisper the leaders and go to which one gets back to you first and make you're own opinion.

>guild that goes out of their way to include people and help everyone get their dailies done
If this is a serious concern consider joining a real normie guild, this is /tosg/.

and what >>158297687 said
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>>158296724
>TP has been mainly broken for weeks
>He still stays in the guild

You like it there, stop posting about it to try and tell yourself otherwise.
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>If you are out there... if anyone is out there... I can provide food, I can provide shelter, I can provide security. If there's anybody out there... anybody... please. You are not alone.
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>>158297821
You don't need to buy from chinks to make decent money from TP
You could buy some of the popular costumes now for example.
Since they will be getting removed and put in an RNG box soon, you can expect the prices to sky rocket.
I'll be spending my remaining TP on a few.
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When I mount my hoglan (lewd), I don't see any change in my hp or other stats. Is it broken?
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>>158298059
no, its starving
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How long would it grind to from level 210 to level 280?
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>>158295627
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>>158298101
You're a genius and I olev you
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>>158296924
t. someone who has never been in Fedimian or Coffee at all

And all of you, stop this shit of falseflagging guild and leaders and play the game
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What are good necklace options for dex swordsman? Or does everyone just go max peta?
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>>158298351
Are you angry that your life isn't going the way you want, anon? It's okay. Just let go.
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>>158298386
The only real necklace options are Max Peta, Maven Necklace (borderline impossible to get), and Rhevisan for swordsman in general.
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>>158298461
Stop projecting.
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>>158297946
cross channel
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>>158298497
You forgot https://tos.neet.tv/items/583110
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>>158296924
Yes, please play Klaipeda.

All other servers are shit, including Korean and Japan ones, just come to Klaipeda, there's no lags here and all guilds are awesome.

Don't forget to play krivis3diev3 so my doppel can be good!
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>>158298497
Maven necklace?
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>>158298574
Acting out like you do is often a cry for help, anon. It's okay, I understand you.
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>>158298594
Is that actually in the game? I really want that where is it from?
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>>158298724
Drops from the maven torch defense event extremely rarely. Anti-magic item that's good for doppels since they have no defense in the first place.

https://tos.neet.tv/items/583106
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Who's ready for the Lolita costume next week!?
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>>158298753
Library
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>>158299048
Good luck on trying to win the lottery for it.
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>>158299048
>Gatcha only
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>>158299807
Can't deal with a few xD's?
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>all these memes
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>>158295403
name one non-/tosg/ in Ohayou
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>>158300621
Kirito
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>>158300621
tripleJ
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>>158300621

tri-jenny
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>>158300621
dotardgarden

crimson traitors are a billion times more tosg than him
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>>158300621
Voxandra, Threejane, Kirito, Evergarden, tikiwiki i can continue the list anon but bleh
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>>158300693
not in Ohayou
>>158300761
>>158300805
he's been /tosg/ since July
>>158300863
retard
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>>158300621
Voxandra
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>>158300969
>>158301043
>Voxandra
she's been /tosg/
>Tikiwiki
her, Ji, Etie, and Bed are all part of the same group and were /ffxiv/ since around 2013, becoming /tosg/ in August
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>>158301143
retard
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ITT: retards
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>>158301193
retard
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Voxandra x Nicola
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a .
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>>158301276
>Mergen will never step on you
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ded game
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>>158301143
>/ffxiv/
There's nothing to be proud of. This is actually a bad thing. No wonder all the ERPing avatarfagging attentionwhoring filth is in ohayou now.
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>>158301234
ITT: Mohayou in full damage control
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>>158299807
Oddo. I'm coming with.
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You all are just a bunch of runts.
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@158301496
cutting your You supply right here right now
you'll have to You yourself now, shitter
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>>158301469
>/tosg/
There's nothing to be proud of. This is actually a bad thing. No wonder all the ERPing avatarfagging attentionwhoring filth is in ohayou now.
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>>158301496
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CkaX6tyq9pI

t.3jane barbosa
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>>158301645
You must be some kind of retard to think that tosg is on the same level of subhumanity as /xiv/.
If anything, what makes tosg bad comes from xiv (and indirectly ohayou).
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>>158301360
Nice photoshop in the corner
keep doing them you fucking russan neet
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Sissel or glad bands for a full dex doppel?
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>>158301496
retard. that's every /vg/ guild
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The problem with CuteNotLewd is that they are like this with new members.
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>>158301745
>full dex
reroll my retard
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>>158301745
>full dex Doppel
Lel. Sissel is better
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>>158301729
retard
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>>158301853
>>158302016
Well I meant 3dex:1str doppel actually but whatever
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>>158301496
>nu-male
Welcome back dvine
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>>158301978
>booby ears girl
who?
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>>158301978
Kys
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All the anti-Coffee shitposting got deleted and >>158301496 was Divine
Is he back in Fedimian?
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>waited til last day to turn in all jumbo dumpling recipe to reset vouchers
>something something only 1
whoops
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How much TP are the swimwear and spring flower costumes?
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>>158302723
Someday Kim will save us.

This game will bloom into something amazing in the next year.
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>>158302509
haha same
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Why?
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Decided to try this game out.
I'd like to go for a good solo build + party healer build.
I wanted an opinion on this one I found:
http://www.tosbase.com/tools/skill-simulator/build/4emxlfxobw/

How well can a free player acquire the equipment?
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>>158302429
>Mimi
I remember wrecking her mid 180s character with a level 90 QS using stone shot long ago. She got so buttmad it was hilarious.
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>>158303274
Please don't bully Mimi. I love her
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>>158303039
>Rodent
Kek
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>>158303396
Well I dont really mind.
I have too much free time and am super bored because I've run out of things to do.
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So looking at the gachapon shit they're planning on doing should I buy whatever costumes I want now
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>>158303505
It's a pretty shitty game if you are alone
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>>158303583
Unless you want to buy it for 10m silver on market or try your luck
Yes, get your costume now
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>>158303691
I hate how the appropriate response to their retarded shit is to buy more shit but I guess this is the last time
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>>158303497
Yes, it's Capy
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>>158304097
wtf i hate poring now
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Based mods.
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>>158304921
Good post dude.
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>Janitor kills capy spam
>Doesn't kill retard spam

If you are going to kill one, kill the other. They are the same amount of cancer. Well at least Capys are cute.
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>>158303691
>tfw 1m is almost $5 now on RMT sites
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I've seen a couple of people being able to immediately get out of dungeon once the run is over and I can't figure out how to do it so I just sit there like a tard until it moves me out of it automatically. How do you do it? Also when do dungeons and dailies reset? Server time preferably.
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What happens when you unequip 1 star card?
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>>158305449
retard
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>>158305476
so almost the same price you could get just buying and selling costumes
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>>158305537
Select character, choose same character
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>no agni necklace this week
>saved up all my reset vouchers so I could solo farm crystal mines and the 145 dungeon for ridiculous money
>most of them are going to expire before next maintenance so I'll have to use them up for just dungeon rushes since I can't kill stuff quickly enough without agni to make solo farming worth it

I WANT MY FIRE DMG AND I WANT IT NOW GOD DAMNIT
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>trying to explore inner wall 9
>a group of level 320 nearby, healer and lock
>ask for a party
>they invite me
>they are questing
>ask if he could help me get that tiny spec left on the mak
>wouldn't take longer than 2 minutes or just walking along with me and casting fade ONCE
>"no"

THEN WHY DID YOU INVITE ME YOU AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
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>>158305595
Nothing. It doesn't get destroyed.
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>>158306073
Stop posting any time, you entitled cunt.
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>no yekubite crystal this week
Why even live.

Also, has anyone dropped fairly new materials from mission cubes? It looks like mission cubes only have the initial batch of materials from game's launch.
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>>158306818
they won't release them until after the gacha, so you'll have to spend hundreds of dollars to get one
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>>158306818
I was about to post this >>158306948 too.
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How do you get blessed shards?
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>>158305537
character select
event dailies (signboard) reset at midnight, instances reset at 6am
why? because gooks
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>>158307057
retard
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>>158293617
>imc is now blatantly money milking the game with a gambling system
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b2eUSA1VMAk
LOL
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>>158307375
sorry anon, costumes are only for whales now https://treeofsavior.com/news/?n=706
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>>158307484
>spend 30 tp
>get apples
???
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>>158307484
>"Goyim you got apple for $2?Oh, that bad!I'm sure you'll get something better if you spend another $2!"
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>>158306043
>>158307098
I see. Thanks.
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>>158307484
Glad I quit this game while I was ahead. Now I can close the thread and never return since IMC just killed the game for good.
And here I was hanging around hoping the game might evantually become better. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAH
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Penguin mount gives 30 to both defenses but what does battlebird do?

I'm pretty disappointed they are making tp items be more than just cosmetics and it's a turn off.
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>>158308069
This game will be amazing soon, just wait
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>>158308152
>I'm pretty disappointed they are making tp items be more than just cosmetics
How so?
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>>158308030
>avatarfagging
Enjoy your ban
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>>158308273
There are rental accessories in the ktos exchange shop. 45 to stats.
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>>158308273
Being able to purchase a mount with real life munnies to get 30 to magic defense and physical defense. Hat enchantments aren't too major since its all luck whether or not your hats even good.

Who knows what they'll do next.
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>>158308507
Well, now this is bullshit.
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>yfw tokens become gacha cube only items
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>>158308507
Time to quit
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So, gentleman...
Which RO server shall we play?
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>>158308698
t.RO
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>>158308698
i still miss no fun-allowed
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>>158308507
HAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHA OMG IMC HOW MUCH FASTER CAN YOU KILL YOUR GAME
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>>158308507
I'm about to uninstall. I'm deadly serious.
Please tell me something -promising- this game still has.
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>>158301143
She's as much /tosg/ as 3j, who only only started "posting" in here after being invited.
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>>158307484
>>158307981
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>>158308507
I'm seriously quitting if this gets implemented on international servers.
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>>158309019


retard
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>>158308962
>Please tell me something -promising- this game still has.
M-miko?
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>>158309017
>Shitting in Nexon
I wish Nexon was itos' publisher. At least they're decent at that, unlike IMC
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>>158308962

If you're gonna quit might as well give away your items so you won't have the urge to come back
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>>158307484
>that wind blowing
>empty town
fitting as fucc
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>>158308507
This is the ktos exchange shop. I think it's exchange only so you have to gacha your shit just to get them.

superior warrior necklace (7 days) (str+20, dex+20, con+20, magic def+85) - 65 exchange coins
superior magician necklace (7 days) (pdef+85, int+20, con+20, spr+20) - 65 exchange coins
superior health bracelet (7 days) (con+45) - 45 exchange coins
superior psychic? bracelet (7 days) (spr+90) - 45 exchange coins

Now there's no proof of IMC will do this but we're getting gacha in the first place so...

Exchange rate is one hat equals 30 exchange points
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>>158308972
she's been a lurker for a long time

3j is the only one who is actually new, but it's been almost 4 months since he came to /tosg/ and that's longer than many people already
>>
>all those Ohayou mental gymnastics
hahaha, keep going I'm having a lovely laugh.
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>>158309259
>gem abrasives
>instance reset
>stat reset
Wow time to buy lots of TP
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>>158309259
>it's true

that hurts
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>>158309348
>HAHA WHAT A BUNCH OF LOSERS!EVERYTHING IS FINE
>>
Futureproof is the one of the only pure /tosg/ guilds. Say what you will about Lolipan, but at least she (he) has always made it a priority to clear out inactives and recruit /tosg/ posters only.
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>>158309448
retard
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>>158303260
Never ever ever follow public builds or guides, most of that stuff was written for closed beta or earlier.
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>>158309413
>stat reset
>990 coins
That's an average of 1980 tps
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>>158309413
It's like a level 4 gem abrasive or something. Probably the instant rank 8 gem
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>>158309259
Is that a stat reset potion?
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>>158309451
Then why did they invite threejane and only kick him when bot went full autist and left the guild in protest?
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>>158309548
>Threejane
>FP
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>>158309548
because nobody likes 3nigger.

FP > Ohayou, ohayou is a meme guild at this point.
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>>158309486
If 30 TP = gacha and one hat exchange = 30 pts then isn't it basically 1:1 TP to Exchange points

>>158309610
>I'm so new that I don't remember when 3j was in FP
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YFW IMC will eventually sell class resets
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>>158309486
No because you have 50% of getting hat.
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>>158309657
>If 30 TP = gacha and one hat exchange = 30 pts then isn't it basically 1:1 TP to Exchange points
Except the gatcha has 50% chance to drop random shit you can't exchange, like 30% of getting apples.
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>>158309748
meant to >>158309657
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>>158309657
fp is full of cucks who like to delude themselves and pretend things never happened like how they lost to valhalla and then say they beat them or how all of their main members left because their leader is trash
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>>158309657
Yeah, I should feel sorry that I'm not always actively playing this Korean kike factory to have noticed this shirt, one time event.
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>>158308962
Just uninstall. I was you 3 months ago. I just stopped playing but kept the game installed and stayed in the threads as well as checked the website periodically hoping for good news.
It's only getting worse. With this I can now uninstall this game for good and never look back.
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>>158309548
Even if it was true, that doesn't change the fact that most other "/tosg/" guilds RIGHT NOW have non-/tosg/ members while FP doesn't.
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>game is dying
>imc adds gambling
welp
time to uninstall
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>>158309259
>>158309657
>Exchange rate is one hat equals 30 exchange points
Assuming you get a hat in the first place and not an apple HAHAHAHAHHAHA
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>>158309932
wow look how far that's gotten them. fp has no other accomplishments, muh /tosg/ pure bullshit doesn't mean anything
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>>158309954
Can't wait to see the steamchart numbers when this goes live and everyone gets apples.
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>>158309451
>>158309548
I did it because it was harmless. At the time, we had the available space, and I was willing to bend the rules a little to accommodate Beethoven, who was friends with her. Then lots of people whispered me immediately telling me they'd leave if she stayed. Choosing between /tosg/ members and a non-/tosg/ person, it didn't require too much thinking.
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>>158310118
>wow look how far that's gotten them
That has nothing to do with what was being discussed though. It's kind of sad to see you try to shift the discussion like that.
Also
>just look at how much we've accomplished in Tree of Savior
Loving every laugh
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>>158301496
>>158309864
>>158310118
>dvine still posts
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>she
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Reminder that the CNL weekly auction is at tonight's meetup. Contact Plasmagica for details.
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>>158310973
retard
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>>158311026
retard
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>>158309259
Can you show more of this shop?
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>>158310342
Should've asked your guild first desu. Same shit had happened with JohnLocke (xd, may the guy rip in pieces) before.
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>>158310973
I don't get it
Are we buying cows?
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>>158310973
when is the meet up? i am new!
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>>158311651
Don't. Game is shit, thread is filled with /a/ cancer and all signs point to the looming death of this game.
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>>158311817
can't stop me from having fun!
>>
How shit is Rogue in PvE? Capture sounds cool but it's a fucking 3 minute cooldown
>>
>retard
I hate this meme. It's autism incarnate.
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>>158312235
retard
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>>158312235
retard
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>>158309220
people didn't want nexon because they knew nexon would p2w the fuck out of the game. little did they know imc would do that too and wouldn't fix anything to boot.
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>>158312235
retard
>>
What are the most viable/strong pve Cleric builds for R8 atm? I was interested in Monk but it seems like it's shit for R8. Plague Doctor and Druids don't seem very interesting, so I'm thinking maybe something that ends up with grabbing on of the R8 classes. Suggestions?
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>>158312326
>>158312367
>>158312510
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>>158312691
>Plague Doctor and Druids don't seem very interesting
>What are the most viable/strong pve Cleric builds for R8 atm?
you're out of luck, anon
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>>158312407

>imc
>p2w
>when they give thousands of dollans in free tp to the good guilds
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>>158312836

Rip. What sort of build would end up taking Taoist or Inquisitor? And which is the least shit?
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>>158313135
>the rich get richer

Trump save me.
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>>158313201

>taioist

Cleric 2 Krivis 3 [filler] [filler] taioist

options: priest 1/2, druid, pd, miko, kabb, pd 1

new wb meme: cleric 1 diev 3 krivis 3 taioist

>inquisitor

literally anything, but there are the physical dps who goes inq like monk 3 path or paladin path
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Is it too late to start farming a monster gem?
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>>158313732

yes, start after the maintenance
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>>158313779
Um no, you need to do it just before the maint.
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>>158313780
>janitors
>quality
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>>158313780
I wonder which samefag auto-circlejerker might be behind this post.
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>>158313780
They're just trying to match the quality of the game. Don't bully.
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How much does this game have to die before all the retards and doom posters go away? Not just here, but in general. This game has one of the worst communities I've ever seen. Like abnormally bad even for online games. I don't get it.
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>rushing 290 3 times gives you 400k
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>>158314016
>>158313780
retard
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>>158314016
You and I are actually the only people in this thread. I'm doing the doomposting, you're doing the faggotposting.
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>>158314016
The community match the games
>doomposters
It was doomposting 3 months ago, now it's just reality.
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I love Capy, but some of these normies he's recruited are obnoxious. I don't even mean the few "xD" here and there. It's constant. I think one of them is a teenager too. I can endure it, but it's painful.

Console me /tosg/.
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>>158314557
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>>158314557
Man up and reroll on Klai.
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>>158314479
Reality of what? They fixed the game somewhat and it's nearly to KR patches. Even if rank 9 came out tomorrow people wouldn't be satisfied. They'd complain about why there's no new clothes and then complain about new clothes coming out.
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>>158314824
>They fixed the game somewhat
They didn't, everything is actually more buggy then before.

>it's nearly to KR patches
No it isn't, we are month behind.
Fucking Christ, when have the same bugs Korea had month ago, they just copy pasted the patches without even adding the fixes.
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>>158314824
not him, but the new gacha shit kills off most of any goodwill they've built up recently
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mfw this reminds me of Archage with its rng boxes. This game could've been good if the developers weren't such massive retards
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>>158315002
Why?
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>>158314824
I'd agree with you if it weren't for these true pay2win aspects they'll be adding to the cash shop. Don't even care about the lottery cubes, but the exchange shop behind it.
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>>158315238
>removing existing constumes so they can put it in a loot box with a 1% chance to get it
gee I wonder why

and don't say "it's just cosmetics," nobody would have fucking played this game if it weren't for the cute aesthetics.
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>>158315238
retard
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>>158315431
>it's just cosmetics
Like they wouldn't add more useful things later on.
It's just a question of time now.
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>>158315554
that too, they already fucking did it in kToS apparently, and their gacha isn't even as bad since they still have the costumes purchasable from the normal store
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>>158315431
But if you wanted a costume they had already you would have bought it already or just buy it from the market.

Also I have a problem with cosmetics being sold at all rather than being part of the game. If you're gonna advertise hats and stuff you should be able to get more than a few in game. Putting them in a cash shop or a gatcha is all the same.

>>158315554
Useful like what? Even a 100 str ring wouldn't be useful.
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>>158298497
>>158298724
>>158298913
>Maven Necklace (borderline impossible to get)
not that hard. i got a recipe
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>>158314557
Enjoy your shithole and get used to it :^)
Don't blame Capy for focusing on normies when none from here play on Fedimian
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>>158315735
>Even a 100 str ring wouldn't be useful
Oh, thanks for proving you're actually retarded.
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>>158315735
>But if you wanted a costume they had already you would have bought it already or just buy it from the market.
I already did just buy it, but that's not an option for the new ones. The new system guarantees they're going to be 10x as expensive buying it from the market too

>Also I have a problem with cosmetics being sold at all rather than being part of the game. If you're gonna advertise hats and stuff you should be able to get more than a few in game. Putting them in a cash shop or a gatcha is all the same.
yeah sure, if spending 10 dollars is "the same" as spending hundreds to you, and that's no exaggeration.
>>
>>158315347
I want to say "but it's only good for leveling since the mdef would be too low for high level content" but that'd just be making up excuses. That shit is blatant p2w and if I could find another decent MMO to take up my abundant free time I'd probably jump ship right about now.
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>>158316001
>if spending 10 dollars is "the same" as spending hundreds to you,
It is, because I'm not the one spending it.
>>
I want to fall for the werewolf meme. How does a a1qs3scout1rogue1musk2, full str, full red gem sound? How's its pvp capabilities?
>>
Should I open my 290 cubes or should I save them
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>>158316354

wrong werewolf.

the good one is: cleric c2 diev c3 druid c3
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>>158316442
yes
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>>158316354
>werewolf meme......a1qs3scout1rogue1musk2
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>>158316205
other people spending significantly more to buy the costumes affects the silver price of the costume on the market, so it affects you too unless you don't care about aesthetics, which would make me wonder why you're even playing this game.
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>>158316442
I don't think there is anything of value in 290 cube regardless so just open.
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>>158316354
>full strength
>archer
>pvp
You're like 3 times retard
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>>158316534
I don't like any of the costumes so far really, and I'm playing it because it's cute and not horrible/shitty battle system/ugly/actual chines MMO level p2w
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>>158316792
>actual chines MMO level p2w
Yet.
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>>158315935
I play on fedi, but I'm too useless and slow to be of any use for a guild.
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>>158316958
To be honest I wouldn't mind some new faces. It's not like you have to be super useful, just chat and play at your own pace.
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>>158316792
>I don't like any of the costumes so far really
well it's gonna sting you in the ass, and hard when you see a costume you do like, and the inflated prices are gonna fuck everything else up too.

this game doesn't have the population size or goodwill to support a gacha without eventually tanking the economy hard. in most games with low population sizes and gachas you eventually see the prices of everything spiral out of control
>>
Why do Barbarians get so much hate?
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>one of the few people who actually talk about playing the game and discusses class builds
>never gets into shit posting wars like Klaipedo guilds
>does all the game content including ET, Demon Lords and the 315
So why does /tosg/ hate Capy but circle jerk Lolipan who is the exact opposite?
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>>158317339
>circlejerk Lolipan
retard
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>>158317339
retard
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>>158317339
nobody likes LP
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>>158317249
Not really. "oh no, I have to pay 1/4th the price of a single maxed attribute to get a futureproof costume! The horror!"

Also in most games you also don't see people undercutting each other like retards to the point of providing services for free or selling items at a loss.
>>
Why won't people openly complain about those pay2win boxes on forums? Let your voices be heard there and show them that you don't want these changes. It's no use complaining here because everyone is against it and it only creates an echo chamber.
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>>158317642
>Why won't people openly complain about those pay2win boxes on forums?
Are you blind? The forum is full of that shit right now.
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>>158307484
>ToS is now full p2w
welp. might as well spoil the ULTIMATE SWORDSMAN BUILD: THE DOPPELPHRACT
http://www.tosbase.com/tools/skill-simulator/build/mn4lt5ol6z/
>full con
>pelt to block physical attacks
>hoplite so I can go
>cataphract for speed
and
>doppel so I can stack deeds of valor and get 150% more damage
There it is, gentleman. The best swordsman build you'll ever get.
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>>158317339
both sucks

retard
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>>158317517
idk about your experiences in other games, but from the mmos I've played, popular costumes put in rng boxes usually have their prices explode many times over shit that actually matters for gameplay.

to be fair, maybe the recycle shop shit might mitigate that since a lot of games I played were all "hurr durr limited time only can't get it ever again after these 2 weeks" but still fuck this
>>
>>158317692
very good.

forum/reddit/fb/etc protest is what we need to stop that shit
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>>158318032
Haven't you learned already?
IMC never listens.
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>>158317827
>"muh dex"
full con wizzies say hello.
>"muh str"
read above.
>"You'll need more accuracy than that retard."
http://www.tosbase.com/database/skills/30405/
and many other skills that reduce targets evasion.
>"b-but this is not a archer build!"
team up with one, retard.
>"b-but I want to go solo!"
then kys.
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>>158318186
they did long ago. when there was protest about some shit.
not sure what it was atm, i think something about 'EA'
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>>158318213
>>158317827
>ULTIMATE BUILD
>requires you to suck other player/class cock to do well
>ULTIMATE BUILD
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>>158318287
>EA
But we did have early access anyway anon.
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>>158318436
>playing solo
Read >>158318213 again, bottom line.
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>>158318452
was it the DLC or timing?

protest did something back then.. not like we can do anything else but protest
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>>158317319
Literally the best class
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>>158317997
They probably also have player turnover and not just a constant group that will eventually have an ever decreasing demand for certain outfits.

>>158318287
That was IMC's first mistake.

>>158318562
It made them release the game two months early and then lose all the new players because they had to close it off again because it wasn't ready to handle them.
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>>158318539
>ULTIMATE COCKSUCK BUILD
ok buddy
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>>158317339
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>>158318213
>"b-but you'll also have trouble dealing with full con wizzies!"
That's true. But at least I won't be vulnerable because -no one- will try to pull a full SPR build in pvp. Unless you are a cleric.
>"The damage will be shit!"
I think I've read somewhere that a full str swordsman gives me a boost of 3k damage... which is (the least) 2 - 3 more hits compared to a full con swordie while fighting with a, say, full dex/tr "generic" swordsman.
>"muh (op swordsman skill name goes here) will wreck your face in pvp!!!111"
Good luck hitting it with my stupidly high block rate. And also "fairly decent" damage at 15 stacks.
>>158318842
>"HURRRRR HUEHUEHUE"
ok buddy
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>>158319081
retard
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>>158314557
Just play on Klaipeda
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>>158319025
>he kicked someone who hasn't been online for months
ok?
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>>158319025
That guy rolls Cleric3Krivis2Oracle2 soon.

We're already bullying him.
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>>158319468
>he
t. capy
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What would one need to do to have someone help them explore places like Zima? Does fade work on whole party or just one person? Or would finding a sage help?
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>>158319025
>that normie retard is allowed to talk shit about a Coffee member that has been in the guild for months with Capyba present and he doesn't even say something
Jests Christ Capy.
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>>158319081
>a retarded tripfag
what a surprise
into the filter you go
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>>158319753
fade is great. for party too

missle hole makes it easy. melee mobs are rarely a threat.

chrono for haste (and stop) is nice too

or linker+cloaking

or aggro-bug

always bring some soul crystals and bank all stuff
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>>158319786
Some people even have that normie on ignore list and Capy still does nothing.
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>>158319605
What? At least try to make sense when you shit post retard.
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>>158319979
I blocked him too before quitting
t. Cloves
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>>158319820
>possible faq
>"fucking tripfags"
retard
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>>158320040
Cloves did you really tell Capy that you'd give me your BB? I think he's carroting me.
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>>158319963
forgot:

more ppl make it harder. more chaotic. pulling more mobs/aggro.

try duo, trio or solo them
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>>158320186
How can you solo them if you need someone with fade or missile hole?
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>>158318186
It's better than to sit here and complain about it. At least there's a possibility of a change.
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>>158320154
I just gave away all my gear and forgot a BB.
I'd have to reinstall for that so I won't really bother
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>>158320256
you take scout1 in your archer build.
or sneak around range mobs (+cc) + many soul crystals
or aggro-bug
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>>158320378
alright, I was gonna name it after you. had fun chilling with you man.
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>>158320291
>Night
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>>158320291
>night

retard
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>>158320983
>retard

retard
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>>158320410
whats the aggro bug
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>>158320291
Uhmmm... it's only 2:30PM...
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>>158321036
It's when too many mobs aggro you and don't disaggro, then you don't aggro mobs at all.
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>>158321036
>>158320256
>>158320410
i mean, if you cant solo them. go with party.
full party can be a mess, but worth a try (if ppl are good)

using and sharing bugs is bad :^)
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>>158321216
I as just asking what kind of class I needed to find and beg to help me.
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>>158320528
I was half planning to come back, but the game keeps looking worse and worse.
We'll see I guess, who knows.
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>>158321489
>>158319963
priest is also great. to pick up ppl from the floor
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>STILL no inns where you can sit down on furniture and get each other drunk
But we're getting gacha boxes.
They should be called "gotcha!" boxes.
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Cheat sheet for those running the explorations.

Last day too. Don't miss out.

Tips:

>Use aggro bug, for example agro a bunch of mobs, use a debuff and then keep running.

>Eat Dumpling for movement speed.

>Store all silver, gems, blessed gems and cards.

>Equip dark resist for inner 8 and 9.

>Most maps will have neutral mobs but ambushes. Just keep running.

>If an ambush blocks your path, change channel. All new maps have 2 channels. Keep changing if they block your path.

>Bring potions, but don't expect them to help much.

>Inner 8 and 9 might be impossible unless you're level 280 with dark resist / magic resist gear without help.

>Don't bother with Stalactite or maps past Inner 9. Need quests.

>Don't bother with Zima's. The monsters are insanely fast and OHKO anyone under 280 and 4 hit KO level 280+ with 6k FIRE damage.

Good luck, t. Fedimian cuck who ran all these maps on 4 characters in one day, doing nothing else.
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Tfw I'm not swaaz
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>>158317997
the mabinogi boxes (which were the only ones i bothered with) had much better chances of getting the thing you wanted, at least when it was new.
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>>158322036
Do NOT bully Swaaz
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>>158321905
>inns where you can sit down on furniture and get each other drunk added
>require entry ticket (1day)
>.....
>tickets only come from..
>gacha boxes
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>>158321926
>maps past Inner 9
What do you mean by this?
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>>158321926
pretty nice

all can be done except Tevhrin3 (needs quest)
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Daily reminder threejane is a shitstain normie who should kys himself.
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>>158321926
Also extra tips:

>Bring a pet. They can save you by taking agro.

>On Warlocks, use DT in some zones. They will eat some magic attacks. DT won't agro neutral mobs unless you hit them.

>On swordsman, buy a ton of stamina pills.

>Don't give up!

This character is level 282 at the moment. This is how far these cards could take me. I haven't even touched the later quests.

GOOD LUCK!
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>>158322067
They keep re-releasing everything over and over anyway.

tfw the latest event got cancelled because they fucked up too badly.
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>>158322090
>>158322036
I for one support Swaaz and would happily be his running mate if requested.

I believe his strong anti-squishy platform is exactly the kind of change we need to bring about a more resilient, truly long-lasting /tosg/
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>>158322306
I forget the name of the map and I have been running these maps all day for over 12 hours straight. I'm tired. Leave me alone.
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>>158322485
this is all R8 maps
>>158322382
>except Tevhrin3 (needs quest)

you dont want to miss 25% of that anon, right?
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>>158322883
Why does your skill bar have no skills
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>>158322603
vote for swaaz, the only swordsmen who solo'd all zima quests
boss was easy, burst rotation, then walk away and wait for cd's. since repeat
5k magic hits got nothing on my 112k hp, and all mobs in this area are vulnerable to bash knockdown, so they can all be CC'd including the mages
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>>158322883
Losing like 3 or 4 maps isn't that important. If you really think it's gonna matter, just do some kill counts on later maps. I'm sure by the time you're 315 and equipped with the welfare weapons you can even solo some or bring a friend. Not a big deal.

However since there's so many maps, it's good to get them all while you can.

As a side note:

>Level 10 cards need level 180 to use
>Level 11 cards need level 210 to use
>Level 12 cards need level 250 to use
>Level 13 cards need level 275 to use
>Level 14 cards need level 300 to use

But yes, your image has all of the cards. Mine just has the ones that are doable solo without stealth.
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>>158323165
Nice blog bimbo
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>>158323104
its all i need
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>>158323376
tumblr intensifies
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>>158323376
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>there's no way the gacha system is going to work
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>>158323657
>>158323165
swaaz is the hero /tosg/ deserves, but not the one it needs right now. So we'll hunt him. Because he can take it. Because he's not our hero. He's a silent guardian, a watchful protector. A dark knight
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>>158323892
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>>158323165
>>158323657
>>158323892
>>158323959
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>>158323657
What did you say to me you ignorant;)
let you know? that i have base camp > implying you know what. Base camp is let me know your name so i can block you
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greythorn restock sac!

- a poor orphan
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>>158324160
>>
>Mission run
>Paota & Tree suddenly keel over and die way faster than they have any business doing so
>I get the #1 ranking for both
>No clue how

I don't know what IMC fucked up, but I like it.
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>>158323892
>dark knight
sounds about right, I can't see him being useful anywhere
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Will lenses also go into the shitty gacha?
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>>158324750
Most likely everything but C3s and the Chicken costumes
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>>158324894
That's tomorrow? Also anyone got a preview on the grey lenses? I hear they make your eyes blue.
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>>158325276
>That's tomorrow?
No
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>swaaz promises 3x buff duration for wb with base camp
It's only 2x...
>I-I meant 3x debuff! For umm broadhead?
That has a 10s cd so duration doesn't matter..
>B-but you can pair base camp with melstis for glassmole stacking at wb!
Uhmm, r8 boss and its spawns just one-shots the tent and deletes it from existence.

All these empty promises.
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>>158325276
Yes they do.
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>>158323826
How did you get so much TP
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>>158325726
>It's only 2x
No it's indeed +200% so x3.
>one-shots the tent
Tent can't be targeted nor destroyed.
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>>158325726
swaaz...
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>>158323826
>tfw didn't buy $100 of RMT silver to buy enough tokens to get $1800 worth of TP from the token trade in
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>>158325953
>you
That's not me, just a pic someone posted on the forum.
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>>158325726
are you retarded? its 3x buff duration 2x debuff duration
tent cant be destroyed either idiot
how can you be shitposting about squires? is this 2015?
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>>158326109
>No it's indeed +200% so x3.
15 min dumpling becomes 30 minutes, 6 second glass mole becomes 12 seconds. Unless there's something else going on, it's definitely not 300%.

>Tent can't be targeted nor destroyed.
Yeah, I'll be sure to tell that to the two tents we put up that Nuale and its spawns destroyed in one shot.
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>>158326447
tents have been bugged since release, almost every time you transition from a map they disappear, but can still be teleported to
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>>158326447
>Unless there's something else going on
It's +20% per skill level, your squire only has 5 points in Base Camp.

> destroyed in one shot
Nuaele has a detonate circles skill?
Tent has no hp nor can be targeted.
The sometimes just disappear as >>158326541
said so maybe it's that.
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>>158326447
the level of the tent affects the amount of duration
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>all these squire misinfo agents, being an already dead unappreciated class
jesus this is more desperate than 3j trying to hide his autism
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Is it worth rerolling blessed cubes? Say I'm a way behind everyone and don't even have more than 5 shards and 0 gear transcended.

I'm a fresh new character / player too.
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How does the targetting on Squires arrest work? Do they have to aim it or can they immobilize a guild in GvG with proper timing? Honestly with this squire talk I always wanted to play a Ramza type character but apparently squire in this game is essentially just a handyman and not a knight in training.
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>>158327217
honestly the way i see it, unless youve rerolled every day since day 1 youll never catch up. so its a really depressing part of the game
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>>158327217
if you have the silver to.
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>>158327217
You should always reroll blessing cubes.
If you can't afford to, then stick them in your bank or inventory until the day you are able to.
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>have a squire1
>have been meaning to get him to squire3 for teleporting guild mates for stuff and gvg silliness
>can't be assed to suffer any further on that class for that
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>>158327217

not a priority anon. you can save your cubes for later. if your character is a meta futureproof one, invet in attributes first, weapon, survivability gear and then transcend your shit. having a 10% on your weapon will not hurt so if oyu already got your 315 weapon, go ahead
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>>158327382
>play the game
>been meaning to level
>can't be assed to suffer through the shit just to get to more shit
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>>158327295
How many shards do you need to get say to 30% on a new 315 weapon?

>>158327335
I'm low on attributes right now.

>>158327347
I'll keep this in mind. Shame they don't stack for some reason for me.

>>158327383
Thanks. How much do you need for 30% or 50% transcending?
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>>158327273
squire3 autist here, arrest is a great skill but in any pvp scenario your opponents will always desync and not be targeted, also its considered a lv1 debuff so most all r7+ clerics have a way to completely nullify it for their party. its a great skill but theres 2 problems with it (not counting the shit server desyncs)
one being its duration needs to be scaled by level, as it is now if you really want arrest squire1 is fine, lv15 arrest offers nothing to the table as its same duration as lv1 and only in rare opportunities would you have 16+ mobs in front of you without a linker assisting (hugging a corner after taunt doesnt seem to work well, desync is a major issue with this skill as most if not all melee skills arent auto-target unlike every other class who dont need to worry as much about desync's
second is that its considered the same debuff as a simple poison, which means in pvp its never used because of many cleric skill tree's offering lv1 debuff immunity to a party.
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>>158327575
They don't stack for anyone. It's awful.
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>>158317517
>Also in most games you also don't see people undercutting each other like retards to the point of providing services for free or selling items at a loss.
This quite literally happens irl. At least take economics 101 before saying shit you know nothing about
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>>158326627
tent was up, even after transition.

Suddenly moments during combat it was destroyed. No magical circles were ever destroyed.
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>>158327601
Oh that's fucking stupid. I always assumed that because it is stated to work on bosses it's a piercing root debuff like Iron hook lite.
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>>158327824
t. student finishing up economic 101.
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While we're talking about Squires, is there any reason to go C3 Squire?

I was thinking about getting C1 Squire as Fencer just so I can repair my shit.
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>>158328014
the only thing arrest has going for it, is that it works 99% against bosses, and since their hitbox is soo large even if you desync you will most likely land it.
taunting then arresting is a great strategy for CC'ing a boss, however it appears that if you arrest the boss for the full duration of 10 seconds, its aggro gets reset so after arrest ends itll start going after one of your party members. if the boss can 1-hit your glass cannon cookie cutter party members, its best arresting the boss for about 5-7 seconds then going back to face-tanking it with dps skills. so that it wont reset its aggro
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It's time for my 3rd Rank8 character.
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>tfw the best guild on klai is probably dead
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>>158328192
c1 squire will be enough, c3squire is only for lv15 repairs + the new dps skill is trash (literally less damage than pelt skills + no attribute to buff it with silver)
c1 squire + c1 corsair is a good strat for pvp trolling also. arrest + iron hook + bash spamming is almost 100% cc
if youre autistic like me, u can grab squire3 for the +32% HP and +3 aoe attack ratio food buffs which last 3 hours, however this requires your build to solely be based on support, if youre rolling fencer dont bother with squire3
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>>158328408
I'll give you my account info if you level my character for me. I just can't do it anymore. It's not fun, it's not interesting, it just makes me want to die.
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>>158328493
There's nothing I'm missing in this plan to throw down base camp and food table and then swap to another character to make use of them right.
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>>158327217
Seriously do not worry about it.

If you just save up shards so you never fall behind then you will never have any transcended gear. It's a meme system, don't take if seriously
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Anyone selling a cheap Token at Klai?
I got Talts
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>>158328570
I don't particularly like or enjoy grinding, I just find it bearable and part of the process.
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>>158328573
correct, im a useless sack of shit as a main.
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>>158328787
I'll accept payment via ERP, if you're interested
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>>158328570
You have a full time job. Just buy powerleveling. Please don't quit...
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>>158328792
>bearable
If only it was.
>>158328863
The Chinese would just hack/bot and get me banned. Never trust them.
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>>158328795
I'd still run with you, and you'll still have like 40k more HP than me when we're both buffed.
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>>158322036

swaaz is cancer
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>>158328787
I'll give you a token. Give me a name.
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>>158328840
No.

>>158329048
how much?
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>>158329028
>>
>Trying to get something done in end game map on a support cleric
>low levels running past and triggering ambush spawns

Take responsibility and clean up your shit fuck you
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>>158329123
Did I state a price anywhere in my reply? Because there is none
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>>158329003
thanks anon, murmillo is carrying me pretty hard. even rode isnt an amazing contribute to dps rotation, so i should be in the front lines soon
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>>158329197
Oh thanks, but i'll give you some. Maybe old Token price?
Name is: Mia
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It's on now bitches.
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>>158329589
>874 INT
How?
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>>158329589
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>>158329589
ur head is rlly big
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>>158329654
Swell Brain. There's a reason I picked Thaum3 instead of Linker. All that extra INT gets me to 80k life, which is directly converted to damage now.
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No game better ever copy this shitty "ambush on the field" system
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>>158329734
4u
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>>158329812
All mobs should spawn with their abilities on CD instead of available to use, that way you wouldn't have the "5 tali archers drop from the sky and cast spiral arrow" crap.
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>>158329990
Press C.
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Can someone tell me why this trade isnt going through? Do i need a token myself to trade a token?
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>>158330158
Tokens aren't tradeable 1:1, only through market.
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>>158330158
Tokens bought off market are untradeable probably to stop token mafia.
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>>158329812
Etrian Odyssey made me used to it.
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>>158293617
So I decided to try this game but I can't make it work perfectly fluid, having fps drops when you are using an SLI of 2 GTX980ti is quite embarrasing.

Is it me or the game is broken?
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>>158330253
>>158330269
Thanks
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>>158330158
Wow that skill bar sure is full
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>>158325726
tfw voting for Barry obama
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>>158330569
It's the game. Even with everything disabled, you WILL get FPS drops.
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>>158330569
post your specs
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>>158330569
The game IS like this, optimize like garbage. Tweaks make it better but it won't be 100% fixed.
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>>158330569
The game doesn't use your Graphic Card at all.
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>>158330569
it's definitely you, game runs at stable 120 FPS for me.
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>>158330569
The game is horribly optimized.
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>>158330738
It running between 180-210 fps but sometimes stutters. I don't know what's causing it
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>>158330569
>game is broken
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>>158330569
it's definitely you, game runs at stable 12 FPS for me.
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>>158330569
heavily processor locked. with a 2500k running at 4.1ghz it's not awful, i still dip in heavily populated areas.
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>>158330569
your vga is retarded
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>>158330569
retard
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>>158330569
it's definitely you, game runs at stable 2 FPS for me.
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>>158330569
The UI is terrible optimized. Try Alt+A and see if that helps. There's also some config edits out there that help insanely.
>>
Someone said in an earlier thread that they added a pirate hat to the game. Where do I find it?
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>>158331132
it's a hidden quest, talk to 130+ npcs then run the level 50 dungeon 12 consecutive times and talk to the corsair master.
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>>158331357
I think you're not telling the truth!
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>>158331473
Why would he come to the internet to lie?
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Good night /tosg/
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Can you trade blessed shards or gems between characters on the same account?
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Is landing Incineration successfully still a win condition in TBL or do people survive that now
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>>158331771
whisper swaaz
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>>158331739
no to blessed shard & blessed gem
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>>158332032
>as a doppelphract
>against a full STR archer
>block block block block block
>while hitting his ass up constantly
>"Your damage is shit"
LOL
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Is there a proper sword and shield build for pve tank that is viable? I don't like two handed weapons
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>>158332239
@swaaz
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>>158332239
Sword>anything(pelt)>anything>Rodel3>ninja>Murm
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So, what does "Didel" mean anyway?
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>>158333008
Didel Grand Shield
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>>158333008
Dildo
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>>158333295
retard
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>>158333174
Also grand cross and stuff. Who or what is "didel" though?
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>>158333008
http://lmgtfy.com/?t=i&q=didel
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>>158332309
I don't understand
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>>158331771
counterspell/safety wall still blocks it so you need to interrupt the burning bastard or try to remove the magic circle
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>>158333480
>Wall of tos items with no explanation of the word
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>>158332403
>ninja
lol
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is there a list of skills in which shinobi clones can use?
has shinobi ever been ninja /buffednerfed in which their clones gain/lose the ability to use a specific skill? (no pun intended)
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>>158333525
>carried by actual dps
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>>158334098
carried by literally every member of his team.
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>>158333585
>>158333480
>>158333468
its a co-op with
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diddl
https://www.google.com/search?site=&tbm=isch&q=Diddl
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>>158334170
Where's that gif of loligagger running around in circles on her snowflake rode then gets 1 hit from a wizard in TBL?
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What's a good stat build for a monk?
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Are there any new 1H spear recipes?
I want to be the "ultimate jousting champion"
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>>158334307
>running around in circles
literally 10/10 war tactics
please stop being jelly
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Give me one reason to not half the damage of every single inquisitor skill like what happened to warlock. mini game only, of course
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>>158334998
FULL STR NO TURNING BACK
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>>158334998
Dex.
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>>158335282
let the gif do the talking anon
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>>158335383
because

>OP cleric
fine

>strong Wiz
not fine

t. IMC
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>>158335387
>>158335448
>Str
>Dex
Don't listen to this chuckle fucks just dump con ;)
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>>158334998
SPR for LITERAL stone skin.
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>>158334998
60/40 split INT and CON
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Is Jinsae a girl
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>>158336105
no. and quit.
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>Fight tooth and nail throughout Tevhrin cave 1-4 and barely scraping by with the stupid amounts of archer and mage mobs
>Reach floor 5 and theres only brain dead melee mobs

Why couldnt they have balanced the maps better for this shit hole
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>>158336105
no, he is a retard.
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>>158333884

Shinobi has only gotten buffs, no nerfs.
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>>158336198
>make an "action MMORPG"
>the only things you can evade in real time are melee attacks
>bosses just cover the entire screen in an instant AOE that deals 20,000 damage
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>>158336105

Yes
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>>158336304
is there a datamine of skills clones can use?
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>>158336339
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vfblUSCaAQk
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>>158333884
There's no way to datamine it. Shinobis can now use ALL Rodel skills and MOST pelt skills. I think they're just adding some classes with each patch.
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>>158336557
swordsman skills.
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>>158336105
No and he isn't /tosg/
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>>158336339
or you could jump... It's not like there's not a giant flashing red circle that indicates when to do it...

Just a suggestion.

t. not a retard
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>>158336734
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W4YWM-SiJqA

No need to disinfo to keep people away from a shit gimmick class. No matter what skills clones can use, they're still extremely shit.
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>>158336105
no, he's a windgod.
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>>158336894

>they're still extremely shit.

Say that to my 1,5m burst on everything that isn't plate and double that on everything that is plate.
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>>158336730
how can clones use pelt and rode skills? wasnt this not a thing months ago?
didnt they also use sword1-2-3 skills aswell?
so the rode-shinobi meme isnt a bug?
really interested in burst rotations with shinobi but with how little info available and the fact it seems to get ninja-buffed randomly really puts me off, especially if you cant even datamine and the only wa to know is by word of mouth with people who randomly have that class with shinobi after a specific patch
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>>158336894

nah, it's a meme class but the burst combo are amazing, with a chrono reseting it can even carry a grinding party without problem.

think of it as the cryokino runecaster of the swordsman class
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>>158337203
whats best choice for r8 cryo/kino/RC build? kino2 or do any of the r8 classes help with ice shard DPS?
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>>158337079
There's a massive thread about it on the official forums that has kToS players and it tries to stay up to date.

I'm a Corsair Shinobi and I'm just praying for the day they add Hexen Dropper to the list. It'll be pretty cute.
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>>158337079
no yes no
Ask on the tos forum or check old patch notes
only other skill I can remember is moulinet
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>>158337404

reroll or sage to be useful
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>>158337468
>kino/cryo/RC burst rotation isnt useful
any real wizards here with any meme build recommendations for r8?
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>>158337404
Isn't wiz 3, cryo 3, pk, rc, already 8 ranks?
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>>158337404
>>158337616
pve? take sage or reroll. dps wiz is over
>mdef

pvp? sage is OP but maybe other ok too, i dont pvp much

>RC
is shit
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>>158337616

I mean. 3k mdef mobs vs ice shards.

>cryo rc = no kino 3 = no massive CC build

if you have cryo 3 for tree and shit nice, pick sage and bring more usefulness to the kit and a good pvp build

>muh kino 2

well, kino has stun to PP and this alone makes pp a good pve spell (control and dps on no 20000 mdef mobs) and magnetic force that is good for pvp and at pve if you bother to stack aoe ratio (five hammer shines with this skill)

Pressure combo may get stronger if you do a good wall formation (pp lv 10 hits more walls than 5), but that's it. tell me, if 3k matk qc elememe warlock 2 can't dps, why would you?
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>>158337434
>>158337445
thanks for confirmation, its a shame because i really like the shinobi class but im not gonna put my heart into making one if every random patch they get a buff and include other skills a clone can use. its funny since every other class has their skills on lockdown, with new equipment being the only factor for them
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>>158337836

RC has more firepower than elememe
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queue for gvg nerds
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>>158338032
retard
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>>158337836
ya im really curious if taking kino2 for the additional wall target limit with PP is worth it over taking sage
i dont plan on being a cookie cutter build, i just want to only have ice shard dps and nothing else. and would want nothing but classes in which can help with the ice wall PP combo.
going to assume sage offers nothing for ice shards, and is just a good class overall.
wiz3-cryo2-kino2-rc seems to be the best choice for ice wall-PP combo dps potential (im not saying its a good build, i just want to have a character that has max potential with their ice wall dps)
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I need 5 members to join my guild to queue for gvg every week for free tp
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>>158338183
That's not how it works anymore retard
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>>158338183
server and name of the guild
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>>158338385
How does it work now retard
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>>158338109

It's a burst build that can dish out millions of damages. The biggest downside is of course, the downtime. Don't be a dumbass.
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>>158338436
you will still literally do 1 damage against 2k-3k mdef mobs, you can't get past that wall, no wizard can
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?
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>>158338671

If you have shit gear of course you wont
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>>158338865
Murbish pops bubblewrap like Murbish pops cherries
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>mages cant kill r8 mobs because of their defense
>what are debuffs
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>>158339187
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>>158338671
What non boss or miniboss mobs have 3k mdef?
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>>158338135

max dps pp-wall usually involves build of kings: wiz 3, cryo 1, pyro 1, kino 1, rc.

super mega burst build, I'm just not sure if this can be even better with agni necklace: I'm not sure if this increases FIREBALL'S PP "shards" too.
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>>158337883
Nothing is on lockdown in this game. Sadhu was one of the strongest Cleric DPS in iCBT2 and they nerfed it so hard it might as well not exist anymore.
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>>158339374
I was with a pt doing mishekan quests for practonium, I remember an elememelock doing 1s against flowlevi

https://tos.neet.tv/npcs/58564
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>>158339714
i also had a party with an elememe for practonium, they were destroying the groups pretty easily
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>>158339617
yes yes i agree, and this was my plan.
im just posting now to theory craft what would be good for r8
im not sure if pyro is worth it, 50/50 of the runecasters i talk to say either fireball is good or is bad.
either way, what would be ideal for r8? sage adds nothing to ice shard dps based off of nobody mentioning anything about sage. enchanter is another option. so is kino2 or cryo2....
i just want a build of kings with r8 now that its out
still not sure about pyro, based off of alot of people saying its bad because "the fireball makes the shards go off in random directions and not where you want them"
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>>158339714
That's not 3k mdef.
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Cleric3>Paladin3>???>Inquisitor
What can I get at R7?
I already know that it's a shit build, thanks.
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>>158339374
doesnt have to be 3k
2k+ reduces it by a lot. still low dmg, if not 1s
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>>158339962
pyro's fireball doesn't send shards in weird directions as far as i know, the fireball itself is kind of useless since your melee will just knock it off the boss when you're pping it
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>>158339962
>i just want a build of kings with r8 now that its out
its shit now. R8 killed wiz dmg
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>>158340345
why would the fireball be on the boss? wouldnt it be against your character to PP while also hitting ice walls?
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>>158339962
wiz dps is *shit* in r8, the biggest reason ppl pick sage is for missile hole, which at least lets you support the party since you can't always do good/great dps anymore (see high mdef mobs)
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>>158340270
Krivis or Oracle or PD.

I'd grab Krivis.
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>>158340624
im aware, however i still want to commit. need to theory craft which class at r8 would be ideal for maximum ice shard dps
enchanter is a rumor to be of help, sage is of no use (for my specific build)
kino2 gives you the ability to target more ice walls
current options are
cryo2-pyro1
cryo2-kino2 (no pyro)
cryo1-pyro1-sage
cryo2-kino1-sage
etc etc
might have a meme enchanter build inclused as an option aswell
is enchant lightning confirmed not able to affect ice shards?
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>>158340270
Whoa someone else has my blunderous build?

>>158340837
Why Krivis?
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>>158338436
>>158338032
No, it doesn't.

If it had, back in elememes days ppl would've taken icewall gimmicks into ET instead of elememes, because chronomancer and diev fixes the delay issues.

The problem with the ice wall gimmick is that it takes time to set it up.

It's good against dungeon bosses and to an extent in PvP, that's really it.

It's not good against world bosses and it's not good in ET.

It's also absolute trash in normal parties.
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>>158340954
>Why Krivis?
For Daino.
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>>158340954
Daino, Zalcial, +HP regen memes
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>>158340270
What stat?
You can get Oracle for zoo memes, Kabba for tank memes, or Pardoner for mdef king memes.

Don't get Krivis, you can scroll it all. Scrolls are cheap when you're R8 and you'll only be using them when needed.
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Anyone want to put me in their guild. I'm a shit build, so you can bully me if you want.
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>>158341320
whisper Lolipan
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>>158341287
2 Str 2 Int 1 Spr. It's pure shit but I love it. I may grab Kabbalist for infinite HP, sounds fun.
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>>158341320
>>158341370
>shit build, so you can bully me if you want.
>FP
that position is already taken.
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>>158341414
>STR
bad idea
>INT
even worse idea
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>>158341013

>Because chronomancer and diev fixes the delay issues.

It'll take a whole party of chronomancers to cut down those 3 minute CD. When I meant downtime it's really that cooldown, this is a build solely for boss killing, yes even world bosses.
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>>158341479
I know. Isn't it great?
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Costumes about to go full Gacha. Spent like half an hour calculating my TP and what cosmetics I want. Managed to get my TP to exact 0.
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>>158341624
>those dolls
SWAAAAAAZ
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>>158341564
How far are you into the rabbit hole?
I mean, the class build itself isn't utter trash. But stats completely don't synergize.
You could go some CON and then either DEX or SPR.
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>>158341494
>yes, even world bosses
except no.
Constant high damage nets more total damage in world bosses and in most cases requires less support.

Current taoist outdamages cryopyroRC icewall gimmick and it still isn't mandatory in world bosses or the best DD for world bosses. (and I don't mean just the crazy mdef ones)
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I'm going to build a two handed Lancer built on Dex and there's nothing you can do to stop me.
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>>158341765
150 levels deep
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>>158341997

Have you ever seen a proper build of kings do his thing before?
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>>158341676
sorry folks, im not an afk necro. those shekels arent mine
my stocks getting low though, ive sold a good handful or two of hats recently
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>>158340270
oracle
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>>158342202
lancer is exactly the kind of swordie that doesn't need str - they have a buff that cuts enemy's block by half when they hit them
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Pre-maintenance meet up is in 2 hours!

Go get yourself and your crush ready!
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>>158340682
pp the wall, then pp the fireballs while they're on cooldown. the fireballs actually do really good damage if you can keep them in place
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>>158342235
seen littlesamson, seen enough. It's a meme build, stop pretending it isn't.
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>>158342513
im confused, by what ive seen...
you place fireball down on top of your character
then you place your typical ice wall outlay which involves "hugging" the fireball on all sides in order to keep it in place
then you use PP which targets the fireball AND the ice wall at the same time

am i wrong? why is this soo damn confusing?
this is literally the 10th time ive talked about this and everytime comes out different
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>>158342494
Isn't there an auction happening?
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>>158342701
That's the boss killer combo for missions. On normal grind you alternate between the two.
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>>158342629

It's a meme build but a good one

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NvPq47io95Y
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>>158342781
thank you
the only other problem im having is that ive actually talked to a few runecasters and some went cryo2 and some went cryo1 pyro1 and both of them are really strict in saying that their build is better
some anon mentioned earlier that fireball+icewall combo does not have random ice sahrds spurt out from the fireball, but the runecaster i talked to said the opposite.
so pyro1 confirmed? or na?
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>>158342837

NOT ANYMORE

HOW HARD

IS TO UNDERSTAND

THAT MULTIHIT MAGIC

IS KILLED

CHECK THE FORMULAS

CHECK THE MOBS

STOP BAITING PLAYERS INTO THIS

LV 100 MISSIONS BOSSES = NOTHING
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>>158342629
>>158342971

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eZTzoobeLmU
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>>158342750
Yes, Plasma and Moesaki told me to tell you not to forget your talt
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>>158342837
>almost 1 year old vid
grandpa pls

its outdated and shit now
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>>158342943
I see it like this.
Cryo = more deeps on bosses
Pyro = being able to use fireball pp combo which has much shorter CD
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>>158342971
Multihit magic is still the same. You just need a gorillion more matk now. Which is just a matter of time. In a month, everyone will have their 3k matk.
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>>158343059

They haven't changed a thing to that build though, it simply got stronger now.
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>>158342837
No, it's a meme build that needs either luck or a party to carry it.

It's hella fun, but don't shill it like it's the ultimate thing of whatever sorts.
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>>158343153

You don't need luck, you need to be competent and not lack brain cells.
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>>158342494
I realized my crush doesn't like me
I don't want to go today anon
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>>158343105

3k matk x 3k mdef = fc base damage, qc works in the end of the formula so you get crippled anyway

total damage from 33 ticks with lv 90% attributes: not even 300k with chapas
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http://www.strawpoll.me/11496293

is this a goodbye for ohayou?
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>>158343105
the people who already have it are laughing at those who don't
>>
Futureproof is recruiting new players. We're a /tosg/ exclusive guild that's open to everyone, regardless of level, build, or play experience. As long as you actively post and/or lurk here in /tosg/, of course. We've been playing since the Korean Open Beta, and we have lots of experienced players. If you're in doubt about your build or stats, we can help you out.

We do Guild Battles, and many of our members are active in PvP. Participation isn't mandatory, but highly encouraged. if you'd like an invite, or have any questions, whisper Lolipan in-game. We have 2 slots available, first come first serve.

----------------------

Guild Notice for Current Members:

Rather than sitting on our hands and hoping someone will feed us information, we'll start hunting for those Forge and Shield Generator recipes ourselves. On 3 PM next Saturday, we'll run the Guild Raid in an attempt at getting those recipes. This involves killing multiple Demon Lord -tier HP bosses, all which are 285. Now with Rank8, it should be feasible for quite a few people in the guild. Please try to be ready to bring your best PvE DPS characters to this fight by Saturday.

Check guild notice for more information.
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>>158343148
new content has mage damage reduction. and a lot.

that made it weaker
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>>158343310
It's okay anon, everything will get better eventually.
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>>158343491

Yeah, you just need higher MATK than their base MDEF. You stop doing 1 damage the moment you go over their MDEF, RC Ice multiplier kicks in after this and you start doing decent damage again. Elememes have problems because they simply have that shit 50% from QC so regardless of what they use it'll be shit unless you spent a lot of money.
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>>158343724
Also a hilarious number of elememes fell for the "you don't need Int it doesn't do anything" meme so now they can't pass the mdef threshold.
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>>158343724
>You stop doing 1 damage the moment you go over their MDEF
and you still do low dmg
reduction does not just become 0%

go on and show us the power of that (or other) wiz build VS R8 content
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>>158343065
thank you, so you can confirm cryo2 out-dps's pyro1 in terms of only the ice wall PP combo?
what would you recommend for r8? im thinking kino2 so i can target all of the cryo2 ice walls and skipping pyro all together
>>
The discord is pretty good
>>
I've been trying to do the A Void that Arose quest for 20 minutes now. Sometimes it hurts being this stupid.
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>>158343362
3k matk * 75% attributes = 5k+ matk
With Chapparition every 15 seconds it's 9k5
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>>158343470
inb4
>true tosg guild Futureproof fails to do R7 content in R8
>while the ERP faggot guild CnL did it in R7
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>>158344075
Link
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>>158344046

>and you still do low dmg

They can do about 500-800k damage at best AOE. It's not doppelmadara strong but it's definitely good.
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>>158343470
Is that hamster raping the hoglan?
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>>158344046
most full/high int elememes i've run into have no issues breaking the cap and dealing tons of damage they use sup. coronas too, not even the new weapons.
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>>158344398
I want to rape Lolipan.
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>>158344223
>ERP faggot guild has tons of damage dealing archers
>PvP guild is composed of mostly healsluts

Now tell me which is really the ERP guild?
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>>158344472
Still CnL since they do unironically ERP and don't even hide it.
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>>158344223
That's a merit for CNL, not a demerit for everyone else. How many guilds actually cleared that dungeon? I don't know of a single one.
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>>158344472
>PvP guild is composed of mostly healsluts and Loli-carryMe-pan
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uhmm, what if we have our meet up at the entrance to Tehvrin Cave, and then we all go and explore the dungeon together?
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>>158344516
>>158344472
>CnL
>ERP

and this is why is the best guild of /tosg/
>>
Can Hakka abilities be used off mount?
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>>158344645
No
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I've decided to make a new cleric, planning to go c2 > Kriv 3 > miko > oracle > Taoist. Planned to go 3:1 int:con. Will this have any issues in pve? Is there a more optimal Taoist build? Is there a more optimal way to allocate the stat points?
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>>158344630
Kudos for trying.

First and third floor still have story-quest walls though.
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>>158344701
Why? It's literally just stabbing and stuff
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>>158343470
dude just do the guild event boss rush the recipe is confirmed to drop
i doubt snowflake builds can kill those bosses though
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>>158344764
1st doesnt. if you didnt start quests
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>>158344630
Sounds pretty fun actually but since the 2nd floor is blocked off by a quest it'd be difficult.
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>>158344818
Confirmed where? There's literally zero information about it anywhere.
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https://tos.neet.tv/items/203204 + https://tos.neet.tv/items/223110 (no transcendence)
or
transcended https://tos.neet.tv/items/273120
for a wizard?

It feels like if you don't wear a shield you are fucked, and not just for mages but for archers too (xbow+shield vs bow).
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>>158344797
Because fuck you, you can't.
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>>158344223
>>158344472

You can't really fail the guild raid
They are just punching bags that knock you back occasionally
CnL had 2-3 healers
Anymore than that would be unnecessary and just drag things out even longer
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>>158344930
The staff. Sorry but with new content it's just too important to be able to enhance your magic attack and that mace has phys attack as its base stat.
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>>158343470
How does FF's explosion interact with their HP

How much of the HP is being used as damage?
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>tfw you don't remember any of the new map names because they're all fucking forests
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>>158345038
>and that mace has phys attack as its base stat.
A transcended Windia Rod then maybe instead of the mace.
>>
Jesus fuck stop talking about elememe DPS. You want to be a DPS Wizard? You do? Roll Pyro1. That's it. You don't even to get any other classes past Pyro1. You can be a lvl 330 Wizard1/Pyro1 and outdamage elememes once Agni comes out. I mean shit, Pyro1 has 3 instant cast meteors on a 30 second cooldown and no aoe attack ratio bullshit attached to it.

That's right, a fucking Pyro1/Link2/Chrono3/Sage does more god damn fucking damage than an elememe once Agni comes out.
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>>158344930
>mace
not bad but does not get m.att from anything

rod or staff
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>>158345101
60%, or 80% with the attribute. The formula is unknown.
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>>158345328Once Agni necklace is added, Pyromancer is the most viable DPS wizard class in the game.

Pyro 3 into Linker then into Sage or Enchanter is insane.
Necklace gives 400% damage to fireballs and 250% to flame ground and fire pillar. Linker is obligatory for the huge damage bonus linked shit gets. Sage is amazing for duplicating fireballs, Enchanter is amazing for the 500 damage they add to every hit (which becomes 2000 to fireballs and 1250 to flame ground and fire pillar).
Thaumaturge is also nice to take for the bonus damage which again gets massively amplified.

With decent gear and attributes, you can be dropping fireballs that are doing 200k damage each. You sword shitheads might not think this is much, but this is the best a Wizard can do. Especially when it's 2 every 16 seconds.
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>>158345019
>Anymore than that would be unnecessary and just drag things out even longer
THINK AGAIN
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How come half the time when I use a knockdown ability in PvP, they don't get knocked down, only pushed back a bit?
>>
Are there any chests that require Corsair to unlock? Why does my shit class exist?
>>
Whats a good non pay2win gachashit mmo to play?

Any recs?
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>>158345490
Do enchanter scrolls benefit from the caster's attributes? If Pyro3/Chrono3/Enchanter, could I just Flame Ground > scroll Flame Ground > Pass > Flame Ground > scroll Flame Ground?
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>>158345514
pd damage isn't that good on single target
a tao might even put out more dps to a boss than a pd2
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>>158345718
because desync, and all melee are shit unless ur cata.
and its funny because all the other classes get auto-lockon skills and think theyre better than us
the second they fix this desync shit, its gonna be knockdown spam heaven and nobody will stop us
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>>158345770
WoW of Warcraft.
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>>158345770
FFXIV
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>>158345775
The scroll would be level 5 flame ground because it can only go as high as your enchant level. You'd have to use fire pillar instead.
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>>158345843
Not him but you have never seen an INT PD.
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>>158345843
>what's death steam incineration interaction??
Stop posting please this is painful.
>>
Meat-up in 1 hour?
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>>158346836
Yes, bring your meat.
>>
If I quit the Tevhrin quest, will the minecarts on the first floor go away?
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>>158346516
>>158346362
I have both a pd2 and a tao
on a single target the dot isn't that impressive
play the game
>>
So, in the end wich was better?

>High1>Barb3>Dopple3
or
>High3>Barb1>Dopple3
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>>158345328
wew lad

400% + 5997
vs
600% + 4296 (6 hits)
Not to mention all elemental damage, concentrate, blessings and shit will apply to each hit individually.

But sure, I guess it doesn't even compare. Snipe's range must make up for the fact it's not a huge AoE attack.

>>158345490
wew lad x2

Serpentine:
700% + 6482 (7 hits)
Dragon Soar:
500% + 4170 (5 hits)
Both AoE, of course.

The only thing Musketeer has that clearly outmatches Dragoon is Covering Fire which is godly (and aesthetically magnificent). Headshot is a slightly better single target version of Gae Bulg.

Let's not even get started on Doppelgoon which is what I played on kTOS.
>>
>>158347184
Highlander is the superior build for making demon lords and world boss not take an eternity while buffing your allies damage. Barb is superior if you want to just be a pure damage dealer.
>>
>>158347184


hl 2 barb 2 if your physical attack is high enough

>why
better rotation, that's devil's build
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>>158347189
You're a retard anon.

Fletchers don't level up at all because they lose critical %. As soon as they have Fletcher C3 unlocked they max out the only skill that matters with the 5 skill points saved and then start farming and dumping money into the attributes.

Any level 280 fletcher is pathetic damage.

They don't have consistent damage just OP burst. Fletcher is a weak fucking class once they have used their skill they literally sit there and hit Barrage and AFK.
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Hello /tosg/ *leans forward* how are you today :3 I was wondering... dont laugh! xD if you wanted to go to the meetup with me tonight *leans in even more* *gets really close to your face* *stares at you* on tree of savior. Im afraid to do it alone becaus i will probably *slowly leans in more :3* be lonely. I joined a guild but they didn't want to go with me. *leans in more* *kisses you on cheek* b-baka dont just stay quiet! ╮.╮ *whispers* you liked it didnt you! Anyway, thank you for the help! Daisuki~!
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>>158347181
>I have a full con PD and it does shit damage XD
Good post mate read again.
>>
>>158347334
OwO
>>
>>158347334
>Shitposting with a YuruYuri gif
>using a gif at all
>Bad formatting

Barely worth a reply.
>>
>>158347334

>>158343310
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>>158347334
Hi! Few things to start off with =]
1. Yes I added you because you are a female gamer, 'tis a great thing to see!
2. I'm Brian
3. Don't be intimidated, but I'm not a stereotypical guy. If anything, I'll be the one in the kitchen =D.
>>
>>158347341
I'm not saying they do shit damage
I'm saying their strength isn't in single target
Death stream and incinerate can seamlessly and effortless spread through mobs like a virus which is where it really starts to shine
Which makes them perfect for killing trash, on bosses, not so much.
>>
>>158347303
You're the retard for replying to copypasta.
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>>158347925
t. 3jane
>>
Meetup when
>>
>>158345328
>>158347925
Once Agni necklace is added, Pyromancer is the most viable DPS wizard class in the game.

Pyro 3 into Linker then into Sage or Enchanter is insane.
Necklace gives 400% damage to fireballs and 250% to flame ground and fire pillar. Linker is obligatory for the huge damage bonus linked shit gets. Sage is amazing for duplicating fireballs, Enchanter is amazing for the 500 damage they add to every hit (which becomes 2000 to fireballs and 1250 to flame ground and fire pillar).
Thaumaturge is also nice to take for the bonus damage which again gets massively amplified.

With decent gear and attributes, you can be dropping fireballs that are doing 200k damage each. You sword shitheads might not think this is much, but this is the best a Wizard can do. Especially when it's 2 every 16 seconds.
>>
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Cooperative map exploration!
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>>158348343
What the fuck did you just fucking say about me, you little Wizard? I’ll have you know I graduated top of my class in the Lolipan Build Institution, and I’ve been involved in numerous secret Guild raids, and I have over 300 confirmed Cleric kills. I am trained in GBL and TBL warfare and I’m the top Swordie in the entire International Tree of Savior version. You are nothing to me but just another target. I will wipe you the fuck out with precision the likes of which has never been seen before on this Earth, mark my fucking words. You think you can get away with saying that shit to me over the Internet? Think again, fucker. As we speak I am contacting my secret network of Scout C3s across the ToS and your username is being tracked right now by Hunter C3s so you better prepare for the storm, maggot. The storm that wipes out the pathetic little thing you call your build. You’re fucking dead, kid. I can be anywhere, anytime, and I can kill you in over seven hundred ways, and that’s just with my spear. Not only am I extensively trained in Dragoon, but I have access to the entire arsenal of the Futureproof guild and I will use it to its full extent to wipe your miserable ass off the face of Klaipeda, you little shit. If only you could have known what unholy retribution your little “clever” comment was about to bring down upon you, maybe you would have held your fucking tongue. But you couldn’t, you didn’t, and now you’re paying the price, you goddamn idiot. I will shit fury all over you and you will drown in it. You’re fucking dead, kiddo.
>>
>>158348960
retard
>>
>>158348561
Uhmm, that doesn't look very cooperative. It looks forced.
>>
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>>158348960
>>
>>158336181
no
>>158336210
u2
>>158336492
no
>>158336745
but I'm
>>158336896
no
>>
dead
>>
what the hell is a jinsae?
>>
>>158350412
We're all conversing at the meetup!
>>
>>158344704
this is my miko build too, should be fine for pve so long as you don't plan on any significant aoe
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>she isn't at the meet up with her crush
>>
Katzenberg! i summon you!
>>
>>158351175
We are on our way!
>>
So how exactly do you unlock the 315 dungeon?
>>
>>158351498
do the caves then zima story quests
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>>158351175
https://boards.fireden.net/vg/search/image/3ZiA4J2Hk9lhsVsZk9XbmQ/
>>
>>158351553
I have finish the main story quests for both of them, but where exactly is the entrance to the dungeon?
>>
>mostly non aggressive mob start chucking magic at you without delay as we reach maintenance
fuck
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Is this going to work for a miko build?
https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#411444iee.1a2a345561.1f2a4f6174..1a2a31536175

I want to purify the europeans in style
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Reminder Miko is coming this maintenance!
>>
>>158351657
it's in the northernmost map with a statue
>>
>>158351175
>tfw no /tosg/ crush
>>
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>>158352083
>Advancing to Miko will now require an item from the gatcha
>>
I want to cum all over a miko's sweaty armpits.
>>
>>158352429
>have to get the miko costume from the gacha to be able to become a miko
>>
What do I do if I like 2 girls in my guild and want to be with both at the same time? ;_;
>>
>>158352657
Those aren't girls.

You aren't a girl.

None of this is real.
>>
>>158352738
Shut the FUCK up. I'm a girl and the girls in my guild are girls.
>>
>>158352738
Everyone here is a girl
Boys are just unhappy girls
>>
>>158352586
hi mmogold.com
>>
>>158352657
harem
>>
>none of the guild leaders show up to the meetup

So none of the guilds are /tosg/?
>>
>>158353779
use your eyes
>>
>>158353779
Who would want to associate with this shitty thread?
>>
>>158353840
Infinity is a /tosg/ guild?
>>
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>>158353779
But anon Cattly is there
>>
>>158353779
nope. Join a normie guild
>>
Did servers go down? I just woke up.
>>
>>158353898
eight chain
>>
>>158353779
The guild leaders have thier own secret /tosg/luminati meet up to discuss who gets to win tp, what's the new hot topic drama and what new guilds get made and/or die
>>
>>158354167
Nah, just you.
>>
Good night /tosg/!
>>
>>158354351
aka better /a/ and /co/ the message board
>>
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Good DATABASE for everyone.
>>
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Peace.
>>
>>158354510
No I'm up now. I did go down though. Guess I'll just check.
>>
>>158348960
oh look its threejane posting nothing but autism
what a surprise
thanks beethoven
>>
Nighty night /tosg/! I had a lot fun with you qties.
>>
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>disconnected with UI turned off
>thrown back to pic related
>no buttons
>cant quit
Is this it? Did I finally database?
>>
>>158354630
>>158354573

Dead game
>>
>>158354630
>>158354573
Me in the center.
>>
>>158354641
Ok I can't connect. Guess the servers are going down right now. I can go back to sleep.
>>
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>>158354678
you're posting, that means you lost and are stuck here for another week.
>>
>>
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>>158354573
I see 3 cute pairs here
How many do you see?
>>
>>158354742
weird, its up for me
try refreshing the game cache in steam settings
>>
>>158354703
Just dead Klaipeda. Come join Fedimian, it's actually buzzing now a lot thanks to the game picking up in France finally.
>>
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>>158354630
>>158354573

>that few people

Is it really time /tosg/?
>>
>>158354802
i see the meidos, the other two are not cute at all
>>
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>>158354573
>>158354802
>One girlxgirl
>One boyxboy
>One boyxgirl
>>
>>158354782
>>158354781
>my panties are visible in both these screenshots

Please delete.
>>
>>158354848
Apparently there were 12 ohayous online but only 2 came. They aren't /tosg/ anymore. It's official. Even Crimson had a bigger turnout.
>>
>>158354846
it will be dead soon with the gacha boxes making the game a whale only adventure.
>>
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>>158354782
>>
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>>158354907
>>
>>158354902
>boyxboy
>boyxgirl

I don't see these anon, I just see a few possible girlxgirls
>>
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>>158354848
Some outsider here, actually shocked to see how much your guilds bled since pic related
>>
unlocked the 315 dungeon just by walking away from the immobile final quest boss inbetween burst CD's
will any mafia let me join 315 daily? i can uhm... make you food and aggro the adds which get past barrier scrolls
swaaz here
>>
>>158354848
at least 3 of us barely made it because playing the game
>>
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>>158355118
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>>158354907
But neither Murbish nor Mia went. Are you saying they aren't /tosg/?
>>
>>158355086
That's about the same turnout we had tonight.
>>
>>158355245

>>158355245

>>158355245
>>
>>158355086

>delete bullys

dumb cow
>>
Hope you bought your Sissel and Glad Band recipes tosg!

There were none left on the market except one Sissel at 1mil right before maintenance.
>>
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>>158354848
>>158354907
>>158355086
>>158355215
was grinding~
>>
>tfw your favorite /tosg/ couple didn't show up
>>
>Wow game is so dead
>No one showed up
>When this is the last hour to get free exp
>>
>>158355267
somehow we could see the floor tonight, kind of a disapointment. Maybe its because the boipussy went into hiding in the corners to fornicate in sheer terror.
>>
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>>158355118
>>
>>158355215
But I was there anon, I was holding hands with my Dilgele
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