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killed >>158245624

>1.08 patch notes
http://store.steampowered.com/news/externalpost/steam_community_announcements/241332569600668256

>Ashes of Ariandel DLC Stuff
http://pastebin.com/W1XH72P2

>Character Planner
https://www.mugenmonkey.com/

>DARK SOULS 3
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1u8Mak1goSv4g73g16XsWV4sJelDQUatWkP2kcO6GVAA/pub

>DARK SOULS 2
http://pastebin.com/CAx8Yc8v

>DARK SOULS
http://pastebin.com/eNY3su63

>DEMON'S SOULS
http://pastebin.com/RjpF5s7a

>BLOODBORNE
http://pastebin.com/WdLBWD8n

>KING'S FIELD
http://pastebin.com/G8zw0sc3

>Community & Fanart
http://pastebin.com/vVWz9pJm
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cheating figs
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1st for valorheart
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>>158262505
> that's to stop the VH user from whipping out his own spear?
He stops being a VH user.
>or even better, a RHH that will make you recoil off of the user?
Kek. You seriously think that perseverance baits are a good option? Think again.
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first for the crona needs to do ten times its current damage if not more
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Using Valorheart? I''m cursing you
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Here's something to post when people ask how much poise they need for something vs something.
Notable: halberds get nothing for free, and nothing gets hammers for free.
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xth for 16 character name limit is balls
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>>158262579
this post is claimed for the hatred for ganksquad summoners who hide behind fog gates
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>>158262617
OH BOY, I LOVE BREAD
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Good or bad?
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When does it release on PS4? Exact hour in PST is possible.
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>>158262940
5 pm pst?
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>>158262752
>tfw poise is almost useless until you're in the mid twenties or higher
Kind of a bummer. Anyone know how big a difference perseverance makes? Does it add to poise or multiply it?
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>>158262921
you didn't make it/10
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>>158262990
Yuck. I was hoping for midnight tonight.
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>>158262940
My countdown says almost exactly 24 hours.
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>>158262921
Irredeemably awful. Aside from some of the covers, its clear that nobody fucking supervised that shit as far as tone, or visual style goes.
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>>158263103
Perseverance has enough HA to tank literally anything while naked, so don't worry about it.
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>46 poise

>Great Club

>Literally tank anything and everything, use warcry to instantly reset poise and also buff the hammer

Meta
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>>158262940
24 hours from right now.
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alright I give up, I can't do halfway fortress alone. I'm trying to beat the crystal sage dude but I keep getting invaded and can't run to the boss on my own. Anyone on PS4 willing to help me out?
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>>158263106
>asking peoples opinion on the comic
>says its not my work
Nice job friend
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>>158262921
Is that sword hovering?
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fc host here, gonna stop in like 10 mins so get your last fights in
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>>158262921
horrific
i was going to buy it for the novelty, knowing that it was going to be mediocre at best, but it's actually just that bad. i'm pretty sure the extent of the writer's knowledge of dark souls comes from random memes, and the inside art is ridiculously bad.
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>>158262549
I'm hoping they'll kill them while looking for me. It's hard to find people in some areas.

>>158262686
>If they aren't stupid
Good news! I kid. And it's not about making it easy or anything, I just want to see if it's doable. Sneaking past 2 invaders to open shortcuts, doors etc seems like it would be fun.

Just tried hiding post-pontiff and it took about an hour for someone to find me behind a random obvious corner.
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One last question. How and when do you access the DLC? Through Irithyll right?

>>158263128
>>158263209
So they haven't moved up the date? That aligns with time I was expecting before. That's Midnight on the 24th by Eastern time.

But I heard the release got bumped forward a little or something. Guess I was wrong.
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>>158263191
It's better than most would think, but I've been able to use greatsword running attacks after GH R1's and roll away before they can throw another swing. All the people I've fought just tradefished though, I don't know how many other options hammers have.
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The fuck? No midnight release?
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What the fuck is with the insane Shockwave range on that great hammer

It hits me when I'm not even near it
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>>158262921
>mfw reading the one with """Aldrich"""
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>>158263246
depression is cute

CUTE!!
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>>158263327
Cleansing Chapel but the enemies there are closer to endgame level
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>>158262706
same can be said for 90% of the weapons and magics
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>>158263327
Cleansing Chapel bonfire is where you access it. Slave Knight Gael is prostrating before the altar.
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>>158263349
Greatclub has the useful R2's and lower stamina useage

you ain't doing that shit on a good greatclub user
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>>158263256
You're right it does sound like loads fun.
>Just tried hiding post-pontiff and it took about an hour for someone to find me behind a random obvious corner.
Maybe I'm giving the average player to much credit.
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poise
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>>158262752
Here's the poise damage for everything:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1HAnf7IjvUMH20VINaDfqP4ORAlzCSIiBWFK6EbPTgGc/edit#gid=0
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>>158263476
It's worked on most the quakestone user's I've fought, what all's in the clubs moveset?
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>>158263349
>attack into a greatclub R1
>he thinks he can roll away and not get hit by the r2 after this and then be combo'd into an r1

Better get that 30% weight if you don't want to be rollcaught boyo, I'm coming for that bussy
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>>158263396
From my experience with greathammers, it's the longest one so far, the hitbox it's absurdly deceiving, at least it feels like so. I can hit people very far.

Also any recommendation for helmet to go with this?
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>>158262921
Complete and utter trash.
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weird

i just alt+f4'd the game and hopped on my character next to the altar in chapel of the deep

guy's there, lads, just close the game
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>>158263573
Won't matter

If they have 46 poise and the weight to use a greathammer, they already swapped to a warpick to deal with any greatsword bullshit
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>>158263605
if I can roll away from a followup R1 I can roll away from anything slower than it
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>>158263639
It's bullshit is what it is
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>>158263676
whoah it's true........
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>>158263676
pls don't be fake
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>>158263676
but the preload hasn't even started for me
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>>158263401
>Aldrich eats people
>Therefore he must be an ooga booga

Christ, if you guys ever have any doubts if nepotism exists, remember that this faggot got paid to write a story that probably any of you or really any non-retard who looks at source material could've done a better job at.
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>>158263813
>>158263809
It's an xbone screenshot fags
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>>158263747
Nope. That's not how it works. Your roll can't have the timing to dodge an R1 and also a greatclub R2 at the same time. One of those is going to hit if you've just hit traded to then evacuate.

There's a reason the greatclub is the only good greathammer, because faggots like you think the same tactics work against it. They don't.
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>>158263856
ur gay
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someone give me an honest no-meme answer, please. Will ashes last a casual like me 3+ hours? I don't much care for PVP, so I just mean the main content.
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>>158263758
Bullshit is that ss get a weapon with a whole new moveset while the new greathammer has the same generic moveset as all others.
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> get invaded by purple while fighting the two exiles on ng+

aaaAAHHHH that was stressful. thank goodness magic sucks and he was probably cosplaying something
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>>158263886
>Your roll can't have the timing to dodge an R1 and also a greatclub R2 at the same time.
well unless I'm fighting two people they can't use both at the same time.
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>>158263918
depends on how good you are at the game

you can run boss to boss ignoring everything and finish the DLC in 45 minutes or less

but you can also run boss to boss with a raw ASS and beat the main game in 2 hours so this point is kinda moot
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>>158263918
Yes
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=02Xv5jru6tg#t=13m35

>13:35+

Apologize. Right fucking now.

APOLOGIZE.
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>>158263918
Exploring and grabbing everything will take about that time, yes. Maybe more if you're a shitty casual. If you're a summoning casual, which is the worst kind, then it'll take you about half an hour probably. About half the time it takes to go through the game with a ganksquad.
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>>158263968
What's the SS with a different moveset?
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>>158264013
>thinking I'll watch spoilers
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>>158263747
the greatclub r2 unlike other hammers is pretty much as fast if not faster than the r1 and has a huge sweep and range with a deceptive startup

It's the bread and butter of that weapon to roll catch everyone. You can't doing a greatsword running attack, trading and then rolling away without being hit. You would need fastroll to get out of range in time.

And a greatclub with 40 something poise can literally tank multiple 2H r1's of a greatsword anyway, so blender trade tactics won't work either.
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>>158263918
anywhere between that and twice as much
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>>158263824
I'd like an Anthology series in the Souls setting. Basically make every story like an expanded, illustrated version of an item description.
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wait are people calling valorheart cancer/ I havent played yet. Is it just really overtuned?
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>invade someone in farron keep
>good fight
>they suddenly heal
>get rid of all their estus
>they frantically summon for help
>get ganked after killing two phantoms and two blues
>host points down
Literally nothing in the world angers me more than point down.
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>>158264095
It's a travesty that the greatclub gets that amazing R2 while all other greathammers get that boring overhead.
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>>158264158
Calm down bro its just a gesture :^)
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>>158264095
> You can't doing a greatsword running attack, trading and then rolling away without being hit.
the point is not to trade, you do the running attack after the initial R1 comes out
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>>158264136
It's a straight sword with effectively hyperarmor that doesn't even require poise to work.
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>>158264158
it's times like that that I have infinite health.
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>>158263983
No, you can't roll away right after your running attack on a greatclub without knowing which move they're going to use, sure you, rolled timed right for the R1, but if they did the R2, you just ate a combo. If you dodged for the R2, but it was an R1, you waited too long and you know get combo'd.

Only Washing poles can bully greatclub with timed running attacks because of the range.
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>>158263246
Thanks for hosting!
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demon bridge fc is over, thank you everyone who came and hope you guys had fun beating each other to death for me. good night, enjoy your day tomorrow
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>>158264158
>host points down
>use my collectors edition powers to rise back from my grave as a skeleton
>curse him with my carthus cursed sword
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>>158264109
namco bandai likes to outsource the periphery material for dark souls to people that don't know what they're doing. until From kicks them to the curb like they should, I wouldn't count on any actual good ideas like this coming to fruition.
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>>158264303
Gr8 club r2 has noticeably different startup animations for r1's and R2's, you can dodge gr8 club R2's all day long.
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havelmonsters can beat greatclubs

in fact, I think FUGS is the poise-crusher

If you have enough poise to tank through anyone elses' hyper armor, you'll beat them, no matter what since nothing has higher AR than FUGS
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>>158264353
Thanks for hosting

>>158264332
Is that darksword + soul greatsword you did a new spell?
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>>158264332
Fun fact: The moonlight greatsword's 'aura' is another model of the moonlight greatsword stretched over it, and the 'shine' on the blade is also just another model stretched out on top of it.
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>>158264303
Please stop spreading words about greatclub more than it already is spread. These fools don't understand and shouldn't.
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>>158264290
Oh wow. that sucks.

Im definitely still gonna abuse it though.
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>>158264242
Yes, and you get hit with the R2 if you roll timed for another R1, or you get hit with an R1 if you waited to roll for an R2.

You can't running attack into a great club with a greatsword especially now with poise, let alone before. How are you even trading with this greathammer R1 in the first place?

Are you talking about the theoretical hammer R1 whiff? Because that just means the person is bad if they couldn't time their next hit to hit your running attack, not a fault of the weapon.

Any greathammer user worth his salt knows not to play their game and instead wait for them to attack first.

Which they never do and the fight ends up with xXcarthusXx just standing their furious that you won't attack and give them an opening so they either DC or try to just throwable spam you.
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>>158264446
Oh fuck. Is this just Bloodletter L2 reskinned?
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>>158264484
It has very poor tracking on all of its attacks.

Takes some serious getting used to, as well as immaculate spacing.
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>>158264446
Not new. Just never see anyone use it because of the big overhead vertical strike.
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>>158263191
>warcry to instantly reset poise
Is this a thing? I know complete R1's give you 80% back if you're below, does WC do 100?
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>>158264408
Not after having just traded into them doing an R1 and expecting to get out properly. Please read. I'm not talking about R2's thrown out by themselves. Greatclub R2 is a roll catcher.
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>>158264013

He beat her in NG+, while Peeve faggotson struggled with her on NG
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>>158264643
Weapon arts give full reset if you have FP for them, otherwise it's 80%. This is important, because some weapon arts have an unbelievable fuckton of poise, like greatsword L2R1s with their 200 IIRC.
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>>158264528
>throwable spam you
what do heavy weapons do against ranged options? Was the heavy weapon buff a lowkey attempt to make magic more relevant?
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Hosting FC now that the last guy left.

Central Irithyll bonfire
Pass: dsg

You know the drill.
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>>158264536
Is it?
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>>158264756
They swap to a greatshield and crossbow them repeatedly.
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>>158264158

>dump a billion souls into his inventory and he gets soft-banned

:^)
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>>158264756
I don't know about all heavy users, but I just pull out my crossbow.
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>>158264747
How does this apply to stomp/stance? Do you need to attack out of them?
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>>158264734
I wish DSP would drop the retarded act. It pisses me off. He's intentionally terrible for views. Being genuinely bad at Metal Gear Rising was what sold me on him but now it's just played to death.
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>>158264772
Going.

I know I already asked for the hammer, but can you also drop me the new greataxe? I want to try it out.
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I just bought this game about 2 hours ago...

Is... Is it peer 2 peer?
A multi million dollar franchise entry? Please tell me it was just a shitty moment of lag.
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>>158264353
Thanks for the daily succ club
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Do people still get frustrated over the Estoc? Because a rapier that has more than 1 move sounds pretty cool to me.
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what has better healing, blessed upgraded item or the new shield?
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>>158264956
Yes it's P2P, now stop typing like a faggot.

>>158264965
No
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>want to make a good thick waifu
>her face ends up looking like shit in the game
>end up cosplaying as maneater mildred
Fuck.
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>>158264652
> Not after having just traded into them doing an R1 and expecting to get out properly.
Yes, even after doing that. Stop queuing rolls and watch your opponent and his actions, you dork. If you queue rolls, of course you will get rollcaught. It is like saying you can't roll out of followers Sabre WA, you can do that, if you don't panic roll just fine.
>Greatclub R2 is a roll catcher.
Worse roll catcher than every single straightsword, curved sword and thrusting sword.
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>>158264956
You're going to be on the host world's connection. Literally called 'Host' of Embers. Not everyone is going to lag. Unless your connection is the problem.
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>latest update broke my game
cool I guess I can spend more time hurting myself
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>>158264853
No, you can just do the stomp itself and you get the full poise. Problem is that stomp by itself is backstab bait.
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>>158264824
>>158264840
>have a backup crossbow for trade fishers
>the counter is to pull out a crossbow
>crossbows are now the meta

>weeks later
>people start playing even more passively than before
>they actually drain people of their crossbow ammo
>the only way to continually attack from range is with spells and FP regen
>GFDs are now the meta
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>>158264528
>Any greathammer user worth his salt knows not to play their game and instead wait for them to attack first.

I got mindblown when I did my ugs build in this game and went pvping.
I was just locked onto everyone staring at them, moving around while they literally NEVER did ANYTHING. Just waiting for me to throw out an empty R1 or running attack at them to punish.
If you don't feed them the openings, they don't know what to do, so out come the throwing knives and stupid shit.

Crossbow's are fucking mandatory with ultras as far as I'm concerned.
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>>158264734
That's NG brah. But still, he's better at Souls games than Peeve.
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What sliders for the biggest ass?
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>>158264956
gr8 b8 m8
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>>158264895
>He's intentionally terrible for views.

but his bitching and crying drives viewers away. his channel is ded as fuck and he just mentioned earlier today that he's thinking seriously of refinancing his house in order to stay afloat.

if it was an act for money, you'd think he'd be maintaining it because it was successful, not because it was sending him on his way to homelessness.
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>>158262752
Small correction: greathammer vs 2H greatsword should be 37.78, not 37.81
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>>158265016
You can't running attack into a greathammer R1 and trade and get out before the next r1. Just stop.
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where is the dlc

its the 24th

where is it fromsoft!!
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FC

CENTRAL IRITHYLL

FFFUCK
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So which armors actually got a buff to their poise?
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>the stone greatshield is on Dark Souls 3
Wut
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That running to warcry is goofy as fuck
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>>158265009
>>158265017
>>158265105
that is incredibly disappointing. Guess i'm gonna go for a refund. Thanks.
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>>158265370
lemme power up my dreamcast
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>>158265382
almost all of them, indirectly

havel's and smoughs went from 32.xx poise to 50ish
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>>158265390
Yeah that shit's janky
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>>158265382
> So which armors actually got a buff to their poise?
All heavy armors. Before full havels gave less poise than wearing yhorm's greatshield on your back
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>>158265128
Shows how much I've been keeping up with him. He had a popularity surge thanks to meme videos about him, but I guess the meme videos ended up becoming the source of entertainment for people rather than his actual channels.
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>>158265061
I get that Peeve is notoriously bad at PvE but you'd think he'd be better at it after 7 years.
At least he doesn't bitch and moan about like DSP. To my knowledge anyway I'm not really into the bigger Souls streamers.
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is the Favor set one of the most efficient ones now? doesn't weigh a ton, has good absorptions, and solid base poise
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hey uh

host

you arent supposed to attack me

youre the fucking host
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god hates me and wants me to kil myself woo who fucking cares amirite lol
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>>158265497
How much does it actually have? Mugenmonkey doesn't seem like it's updated.
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>>158265423
Why would you expect dedicated servers for a summoning mechanic? Are you retarded? Or brazilian? Maybe russkie? Either way, sounds like your issue rather than someone else's. If you got it on the PC, I'd say that's a fair plan, though. Plagued with Cheat Engine fags.
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only ten more hours...
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>>158265014
mildred a best
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>>158265559
> is the Favor set one of the most efficient ones now?
Only for poise. For everything else it is not that good. If you want absorb, wear Skorbrands minmaxed armor setup, it will give you better absorb at less weight
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>>158265148
Not according to this calculator I used
Where's that number from?
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>>158265578
50 poise
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>>158265370
ps4?
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>>158265569
No one else was showing up at all.

Maybe this time though
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>dueling at pontiff's because I'm actually retarded
>always get summoned to shitty fight clubs with people unironically using GFS and CCS
>have to patiently wait my turn every fucking time just to deal with these shitters
>"Fuck this. The host needs to die for enabling these shitters and making me wait"
>backstab the host, doesn't kill him, but his reds in waiting are out for my blood
>kill one red
>then the other
>there are still two other fags dueling right now, but they don't give a shit about us
>host tries to kill me
>kill him too
>finally have a use for duel bow

It feels good
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>>158265128
>he's thinking seriously of refinancing his house in order to stay afloat
Some people just don't realize streaming has nothing at all to do with player skill, or even the quality of the game. It's all about being an entertainer, and uses the same skillsets as a stand up comedian or stage magician, either improvised or semi-scripted.

DSP's highest popularity spike happened when /dsg/ noticed him trying to play DeS, and he was clever enough to play up the stupid and exploit them for views. He wasn't clever enough to drop the act when it stopped being relevant though. DSP isn't an entertainer, he's a whiny guy with an atrocious personality that drives his own audience away. What he needs to do is get a job in the bowels of some company where he doesn't need to interact with strangers. Filing papers all day would work out for a guy who likes doing the same thing over and over again and is too rigid to change.
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>>158265440
Light armors got a big nerf.
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lads, if you need poise just wear havel's/smough's pieces

nothing else has better weight:poise
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>>158265382
Basically every armour set in the game had its poise value changed.

Tonnes of cloth shit give 0 or like 0.6. Most light armour gives less while medium armours got their efficiency shuffled around. Heavy armour sets all give like double what they used to.
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>>158265680
PC
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>>158265212
The release date is on the 25th, not the 24th. The difference between regions is due to time zone differences from places that aren't Japan.
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wtf im the only cuck who isnt using dlc weapons lol lmao wtf lol
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>>158265770
Yeah, a nerf to the absolute value, but now that poise has measurable worth, ~10 poise is actually pretty good on a single piece.

>>158265774
ultra heavy*
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>>158265593
I'm not having any sort of issues most of the time, helping people in co-op, or even invading other people, but when I get invaded, it seems like all of my foes mysteriously warp around and other such bullshit, along with moving jitter-step. Well, everyone seems to move jitter-step.

It might be my connection, but peer 2 peer is a relic of the late 90s, not something for the beginning of fucking gen 9.
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>>158265642
Tested it myself, vs the drakeblood knight in ADP.
37.78 was the lowest effective value for tanking 2HR1s with min poisehealth. I couldn't find any combination to give 37.77 but I got 37.76 and it wasn't effective, so it's either .77 or .78
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gonna shut down this "FC" soon if it stays this ded
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>>158265725
Just use better weapons.
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>>158265770
sorry meant to reply to >>158265750
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>>158264013
Is this his first DaS? He just keeps whiffing combos and his stamina management in general is godawful. Who watches this shit? He's terrible.
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I require assistance on Fashion /dsg/.
Iron Leggings (left) or Lothric Knight Leggings (right)?
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>>158265863
Seriously, I got invaded by someone using the fucking sythes in undead settlement today and he was wearing full dark set and pointed down.
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>>158265806
o-oh, okay...
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>>158266048
left matches the helmet more
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>>158266048
>neck seam
who cares
>>
>>158265963
stop this FUCKING meme you stupid goddamn ps4cuck
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>>158265863
im not either
but ive won against then still, all of them except twice to the valorheart
and once i learn all the valorheart movesets and combos ill be able to one handedly win then as well

maybe ill even use it who knows you feelin me doge
>>
never mind FC is still going
>>
>>158265902
Peer 2 Peer is the superior connection system, though. Unless they're from a 3rd-world country, which there aren't many of. It seriously sounds like your problem if all of your invaders were like that. I invade all of the time, from japs, to russkies, even the occasional BR. Had an issue all of one time in the months I've been playing.
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Ok, I think I have a build I like the look of.

I was thinking of 1 point into dex to be able to use a heavy bastard sword for more utilisation, but I think mace/great club is a good enough set of main weapons to swap between.
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>>158266117
just get a better computer
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>>158266048
Left, but I would rather just do full creightons.
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>>158266048
The texture of the right leggings matches the helmet better and has better stats in pretty much every aspect than the Iron Leggings
Lothric Knight.
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>>158265370
>>158265370

get the FUCK in here

pass is dsg

PC
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>>158265902
Keep in mind that From Software is a japanese developer that primarily makes games for consoles. They don't need to have super optimized code for network stuff over there because their network infrastructure is fucking fantastic. Port that shit to PC and ship it overseas to somewhere still using wires like NA, and you get stutter step and warp stabs.

Many people here are so used to the lag that they don't even notice it anymore. Play against a Souls vet in any other game without lag and it's like they can see the fucking future.
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>>158266143
when I invade I have no problems. It's when I get invaded. Every single time, 100% out of 40 or so invasions the invaders just lag to absolute fuck and back, jitter all over.
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>>158266241
if youll wait 15 minutes ill be there maybe even earlier
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>>158265973
>Who watches this shit?
You, just now.

His gimmick as a streamer is that he's godawful, incredibly stupid, and always finishes every game he starts. Most of his views come from people making fun of him, for obvious reasons.
>>
Would DS1 be good if backstabs were disabled against players permanently?
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>>158266302
I'm not saying you have a bad connection, I'm saying people have a bad time connecting to you, as a host. At least in this case. There could be something wrong with your connection. Perhaps it's not as noticeable with co-op.
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>gravetender is wearing stupid as fuck fashion, with a stupid as fuck build
>it's not an old monk style boss
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>>158266102
>caring about neck seam
Might as well give up on over half of the good combinations in the game at that rate.
>>
>>158266302
Check your router/firewall settings. It's possible they're blocking certain things the game needs for multiplayer.
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>>158266495
I suppose so, I couldn't find any actual real information on port forwarding, so I didn't think it was necessary. I'll give it a go if you know any ports the game typically connects on though.
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>>158266549
>good combinations
that's the point, there are none

this game is trash
>>
>>158266516
Shame the fight is so easy. It's got a ballin' theme. Hell, if you're lucky enough, the wolf will literally stand still for up to ten seconds and just die.
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>>158266048
Lothric.
The left doesn't match because it's a shade lighter than the rest of the set. Maybe see if chain works.
>>
Why didn't they ever think to have splitscreen for dark souls?

fuck that'd be infinite, unstoppable fun
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>>158266549
go for deserter helm
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FC is cancelled
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>>158266683
BOSS WEAPONS
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>>158266598
Depends on what system you're using. I could point you to the list for Sony/Playstation, and it's a list of about 20 different ports.
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>>158266683
>>
ok but really though where is the dlc at

its the 24th isn't it?
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>>158266683
Uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
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>>158266683
B O S S W E A P O N S
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>>158264794
Nah, Bloodletter just pointed the mace at the ground and slammed it down once for a big huge shockwave. This does remind me a little bit of the Church Pick though. It had a charged attack that embedded the pick on the ground with a followup where you ripped it out of the ground.

But that's superficial. I can safely stamp this weapon as unique.
>>
>mods gave me a warning from 2014
Why does this happen.

Also anyone can tell a PC guy how becoming the gravetender works?
>>
>>158266796
~5pm est you illiterate nigger
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>>158266241
>Get summoned
>Hear Boss victory noise
>Get sent home

Okay. Weird.
>>
reminder to bleed the fuck outta not-lloyd if you want an easy fight

also, you could probably poison AND toxic the gravetender in stage 1
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>>158266796
approritimily 17 hour

>>158266838
>from 2014
What do you mean?
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>>158266743
I'm not >>158266048 m8
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>>158266838
>Also anyone can tell a PC guy how becoming the gravetender works?
It doesn't. Gravetender is just an NPC.
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>>158266838
>becoming the gravetender
fucking lol, in your wildest dreams
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>>158266796
If only there was a place that said exactly when it'd be available
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>>158266875
WTF That's twice.
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>>158266882
Did you know that it's not possible to break NPC weapons with acid surge.
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>try to get into hosts world
>immediately kicked out
???

what the fug i wanted to be part of the FC
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>>158266807
>>158266797
>>158266794
>>158266774
how come she's sexier with clothes on?
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>>158267000
Okay that's weird.

If it happens again, I'll try hosting at pontiff instead. Had to reset his fight with CE so that might be the issue.
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>>158267082
I'm having the same issue it's happened 3 times now.
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>>158266776
nah i'm on PC. If it's a little bit more optimized on PS4 I could get it on that though. I like the gameplay, but when an incredibly important part of it doesn't work, or only works when it feels like, it just feels like a waste.
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>summoned by host
>sound of boss dying
>sent home
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>>158267118
>>158267082
I'm moving to pontiff. Give me a bit.
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>>158267096
Lord.
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>>158267194
Not there please

I can't even see that place
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>>158267182
>>158267194
I'M AT PONTIFF NOW IT SHOULD WORK

I teleported elsewhere and suddenly the same shit happened to me and I got embered.

Should be good now. Meet at PONTIFF
>>
Onyx blade build. Full pyro or pyro / sorcery
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>>158267096
Thighhighs. Probably putting thighhighs on a chair's legs would make it fuckable.
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>>158267270
SIGN DOWN

WHERE ARE YOU
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>>158267262
suggest a place then.
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>>158266683
>no crow demons in DS3
>dragon form looks like an emaciated deer
this is how you tell memezaki lost his passion for fantasy
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>>158267432
had to die to de-ember so fags wouldn't invade
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>Equip Blue Sentinels at SL 20 or so
>SL100
>Haven't been summoned even a single time

Are Dorkmoons any better?
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Who is the hardest boss in SotFS/Dark Souls II? Aged Dragon?

And what the fuck did they do to dragon's keep, why are the enemies all not aggressive but they decided to throw a brazillian alonne knights in iron keep
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Wow those DLC weapons look really cool. the man in Havels just used one to fuck my bp real good.

Are most of them any good or is it gimmicky trash?
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>>158266928
Fug
Anyways here's how my last invasion went.
>Host has two phantoms
>Shield break the first one and kill him with riposte
>Kill the other with skeleton ball for spooky points
>Host runs all the way back to the start, rolling like a mother fucker
>Summons them both back and just keeps running and rolling
>Phantoms come back and just start button mashing while host throws pyromancies
>I have zero estus
>Almost kill one phantom he runs away because lol he has estus again
>Get hit by Farron GS wa and die
To top it off he gestures over my dead body.

What is wrong with these weenies? Not like this game is hard enough to merit two phantoms through the catacombs, let alone one for any section.
Maybe it's rose-tinted, but I don't remember hosts being this bad in past games, and with bonfires every 100 meters, shouldn't they be braver?
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>>158267759
There the same.
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>>158267816
Lud and Zallen, or Burnt Ivory King with no knight support.
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>>158267816
fume/ alonne
maybe even darklurker depending on when you fight it

ancient dragon isn't really a boss, you just loop the AI
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>>158267878
Lid and Zallen are hardest imo. Fuck them.
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>>158267835
The Greataxe has faith scaling and requires a shitload of Faith and Strength to meet whooping 650 AR (like 66 STR + 30 faith).

I'm using it with 66 STR and base faith. Look at this insane AR.
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>>158262579
xth for endless running r1's
>>
can someone tell me why after months of playing ds3 with virtually no problems, it now crashes when I try to load any character and also crashes steam and changes my resolution?
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>>158266152
I'm buying into the greatclub meme and using this:

https://mugenmonkey.com/darksouls3/101212

the 10 faith and 14 att is for ringswapping, as regen is already absurd in the arena (>>158262518) and BW scales off weapon AR (which is pretty nice on a greatclub)

it's got 12 dex since I started off as a knight for the attunement and less luck, I guess you could use a heavy composite bow if you wanted. Spiked mace takes 13 dex, the highest of any pure str weapon.

It looks better than your first build, but I'm not counting the arbalest weight so I didn't need as much vit (only used 28).
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>>158268194
It's been shit since the latest patch.
>>
>>158268076

Earthseeker?
>>
Why are people so mad DSP beat Friede. DS3 is the easiest Souls game and she can be staggered.
>>
why are katanas running r1's so fucking fast.

like whats the point.
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>>158268262
People aren't. Reading comprehension.
>>
Is one of the characters in Ashes of Ariandrel Ariamis? I heard some dialogue from a character that said "My thanks, Ashen One. I will finish the painting. Maybe it will be home to someone one day."
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>>158268239
cool glad I dont get to play this game while others have already beaten it. very neat kill me god please fucking kill me
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>>158268076
that's not just mediocre
that's complete dogshit

heavy greataxe 2handed at 40str gets to 633
and yhorms is even higher
AT 40 STR, NOT 66
AND they have warcry

560 is barely more than quality glaives and greatswords.
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So has acid surge already been nerfed?
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>>158268267
its ok use the gargoyle shitspear
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>>158268240
Yes.

The other axe is nothing special. The running WA is nothing worth.

So basically

Straightsword with whole unique moveset (even jumping attack) with good WA
Axe with generic Axe moveset and okay WA
GA with generic GA moveset and terrible WA
GH with generic GH moveset with good WA
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>>158268308
the paintess is and was never named

"Ariandel" or "Ariamis" are the names of the magistrates that preside over the painted worlds, hence the names.
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>>158268361
I think so
but it would be great to know how bad it was nerfed
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>>158268195
12 dex also lets you use the millwood greatbow, so it's got some utility to it
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>>158268395
Don't forget GS with generic GS moveset and okay WA
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>>158268267
it's easy watch me
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Wasn't there a PCFC just now?
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>>158268461
From a video in the last thread it's worse than it was before the buff.
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>>158268395
hows the greathammer AR?

also, the axe is really good with heavy infusion, much better than other pure str axes which were all worse than quality ones
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Closing Pontiff FC in ten minutes.

Way too tired, guys. Sorry.
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>>158268338
Want to see something even more depressing.

This is new AXE AR.
Axe. Not greataxe. Axe.
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is anyone else tired of souls pvp? I don't mean tired as in losing or winning, just tired of the same mechanics over and over?

literally every duel is either fishing/baiting for a hit confirm, roll, poke, roll some more. and for parry builds pretty much the same except with more dead angle attacks and less random poking.

I have been thinking maybe I was the problem and decided to go out of my way to search for pvp videos, both of tournaments and random players in hope of different playstyles, and it turns out it's the same thing over and over again along with the same feeling of dread I get when I give pvp a try once again...

worst part is, I believe dks3 has the most "decent" pvp meta out of all the souls games. played both dks1 and 2 since release day and it always felt to me that they butchered the pvp meta patch after patch to the point that it made me stop playing the games altogether.
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>>158268361

It's not just nerfed. It's weaker than the prepatch.
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Is the dlc out yet for ps4 console peasants yet?
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>>158268678
nigger what are you doing
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>>158268678
........................................
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>>158268684
yes dark souls players dont know how to have fun,

news at 11.

in fact you should stop playing competitive games period. it doesnt change from game to game.

meta all day every day.
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>>158268361
NO FUN ALLOWED
CORONA BUFF NEVER
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>>158268684
>I believe dks3 has the most "decent" pvp meta out of all the souls games
Yeah I love Carthus Curved Souls too
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>>158268678
haha

oh

holy shit

oh wow
>>
>all these fucking pussy ass hosts that will only preside over FCs for 45 minutes or so

lmao you're all casuals with lives. git gud
>>
Is there a safe way to CE in either ears and grass or DMB and Wolf Ring? I'd do it legit if the covs worked
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>>158268798
>he thinks CCS is still OP
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>>158268840
Yeah, just kill yourself. If you need spoonfed, you shouldn't be using it anyways.
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>>158268668
>>158268076
>the new axe has more AR than the new greataxe

BRAVO
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>>158268821
no I'm just tired as fuck

would host way longer if I wasn't.

>>158268840
Leave an item and replace it. Literally flawless and undetectable.
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>>158265026
>use stomp to tank incoming hits
>use stomp to mix attack timing
>have yet to find someone would dedicate a backstab during this
Maybe I'm just fighting shitters.
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>>158268795
i'll make the corona work

if it's the last thing i do
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>>158268678
>shilling general
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>>158268595
*unzipping noise*
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>>158268840
iirc item rewards can be CE'd in, but not the donation items for sure

I don't know how that applies to undroppable things like miracles though
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>>158268678
hey buddy i think you got the wrong thread, the dead MMO thread is two rows down
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>>158264040
Valorheart
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>>158269016
I CE'd in ears and it was fine.
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>>158268901
I know how to CE but not what's safe in 3
>>158268918
thanks bud
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>>158268707
I know that, but is it currently nerfed?
>>
anyone know the ID for the follower torch?
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>>158268840
its totally safe item swapping
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>>158268668
what is it onehanded (without lloyds sword ring)?
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>>158268659
It's fine thanks for hosting! Good fights on the bridge earlier too.
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>>158269093

Yes
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real glad my dark souls broke before the update, real awesome it didnt happen earlier. great fucking timing wow just shoot me god fucking kill me
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>mfw mace is god tier now
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>>158268668
man, butcher knife just has zero use now, it was only 466 at max str
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>>158269274
*katana running r1's you and staggers u then walks away*
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>>158269147
Yeah, today was a lot of fun

Good luck in your future duels tonight
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>>158269274
>tfw no shadow clone jutsu weapon art mace
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>>158269274
I'm going crazy over the mace

>You can poise through everything
>Anything you can't poise through can't poise through you either
>You're wielding a slightly slower than a straight sword weapon and they have an ultra-great weapon
>480 AR
>you can reliably roll catch anyone medium rolling by pressing r1 at the right time
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>>158268668
i actually used it and the damage isnt as good as the ar suggested, no idea why
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>>158269143
Here with Loyd's sword.
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>>158269274
It's god tier at dumpstering scrubs
Against anyone competent with a faster or longer weapon it has no response
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>>158269274
>tfw using the mace since Demon's Souls

it's hard to watch the things you love become memes, twice
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>applause
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>>158269598
>proper bow
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>>158269593
Me too bro, and I'm glad it's finally usable in PVP now, after 5 games of maces being completely trash against a human opponent.
>>
>body buffs are stackable AND don't work in pvp
that's 2 dumb decisions in 1!
>>
>ornstein scythe memer gets demolished by anything with HA
>none of my weapons do
>got dumpstered hard every time

Why me
>>
>>158269770
works good in co-op

also, i hope dlc 2 is co-op oriented
>>
>dueler literally cheats to get the valorheart
>points me down when he wins
youre still a cheater and theres no changing that sorry
>>
>>158269889
Cry some more
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>all the new armor looks like shit
>all the new weapons are completely outclassed by current weapons and nobody will even touch these a week from now

man I'm so disappointed
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>>158269889
report him :)
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>>158269889
he still kicked your ass faglord
>>
R8?
>>
>>158269959
>>158269919
cheaters detected
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>>158269810
Ornstein Guy is great because he's like the casual filter of FCs

If you're not gud enough he'll cram his scythe up your ass, and if you ARE good he's a joke
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>>158269935
What do you want to see in the next Souls/Souls-like ARPG video game?

>Level up at bonfires
>Magic & FP are separate bars
>DaS II poise, new bar for poise
>Can be invaded while hollowed/unembered
>Can invade even if the boss is defeated
>No more invasion limit but twinks' damage get scaled down to the host's one
>Cosmetic armor slot (wear Havel's but show another set) unlocked once you beat NG+7
>Summoning signs last as long as you don't cancel it, you can leave the area or warp somewhere else and it continues to be left there
>Red Eye Orb lets you set areas you want to invade from anywhere
>Stats cost less souls to level if it's low (ie 6 -> 7 ATN costs less souls that increasing STR from 39 -> 40)
>Your summoning sign becomes universal (scaled up/down) if nobody summons you in 10 minutes. Random NPCs will summon you for bosses if you don't get summoned in 15 minutes ("Radiant" NPCs)
>More dismemberment, boss tails/hands/legs for weapons, players hands/limbs
>Covenant to "invade" as regular mobs
>Gravelord equivalent covenant
>Hotkey to toggle HUD
>Mimic bonfires, Mimic boxes, Mimic destructibles (furniture, crates, etc), Mimic doors, Mimic levers, Mimic item drops, Mimic items, Mimic that disguises itself as other enemies, Mimic NPC, Mimic summon signs, Mimic messages, Mimic bridges, Mimic buildings, Mimic Fogwalls, Mimic armor, Mimic Helmet, Mimic Weapons
>Sorcery to disguise as a Mimic Chest
>No bonfire warping until you pass the Lower Undead Burg -> Depths > Blighttown >Valley of the Drakes > Firelink Shrine equivalent.
>>
>>158269935
Follower

Sabre
>>
Is the onyx blade good enough to be a meta weapon? It looks so badass to me.
>>
>>158269935
>all the new armor looks like shit
False
>all the new weapons are completely outclassed by current weapons and nobody will even touch these a week from now
False
>>
>>158269935
You are double stupid
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>>158270068
yeah
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>>158269993
Not as cute as Gwyndolin/10
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>>158270094
>>158270112
I've tried literally all the armors and weapons except the follower torch, they're all complete garbage that will only work by catching people off guard for the first 2 days of release.
>>
>>158269676
Proper bow is qt
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>>158269993
cookie cutter sirris sliders
>>
>>158266485
backstabs aren't bad, they allow you to deal with gankers and overleveled faggots. https://youtu.be/eE6AR_nNpLQ?t=8m25s
the biggest issue with backstabs in 1 was that the only was to punish backstab attempts were other backstabs.
but a backstab centered pvp isn't intrinsically bad. most people that complained never really bothered with the know-hows and have slight ptsd from getting japstabbed from across the map. well, laggy players are always an issue in pvp games, backstabs or not
>>
>>158270050
>>Magic & FP are separate bars
???
You mean you think there should be an FP bar exclusively for weaponarts?

>DS2 poise
I should have stopped reading here

>Can invade even if the boss is defeated
You fucking can, retard. Now I'm actually just going to stop reading.
>>
>>158270192
>he doesn't play as a girl(male)
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>>158270215
desu varlorheart seems completely fucking broken
i have yet to win one
>>
>>158264109
They're doing that actually. The first issue's already out.

A third of it is written by the same guy and features his action gurl OC, and another story has the Firekeeper from Dark Souls 3 in it.
>>
how much does warcry multiply your AR?
>>
is mugenmonkey's wolf ring using correct poise?
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>>158270376
use any weapon that can swing multiple times or has strong guard breaking capabilities

presto you win
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>>158270376
Scythes make Valorheart completely useless.

I know lmao2scythe seems to work at least
>>
>Get invaded by some fag while im in the beginning of the dlc
>Hes teleporting around, connection is extremely bad
>He starts rolling into a wall
>I run up and land a direct L2 with the Farron GS
>Plays hit sound effect, his character makes a grunt, no damage at all
>Suddenly he disappears and my health bar empties out in a split second and i die
>Suddenly he teleports back onto my screen doing the clap gesture while spinning
??????
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>>158270249
What do Sirris's sliders look like? I made that one from scratch, and I think it looks nothing like Sirris.
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>>158270459
>>158270491
Alright thanks fellas
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>>158270508
ok now in proper lighting it's just much, much worse

try again
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>it a "I bow to the host, he bows, we start dueling but when it becomes apparent that he's losing he starts to chug estus and summon phantoms" episode

Just accept it bro. You're only making this harder on yourself.
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>>158270508
she looks like she doesn't blink unless there's a fly on her eye
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>>158270412
7.5% for 30seconds
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>>158270612
>bowing beforehand
Faggot detected
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>>158270508
Here man.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1EXGIWRHO8lgeHRyb8fzDMeKPpuzyWGq-HA9v-udWRYg/edit#gid=0

Sirris' sliders are in there. The OP has good information in it.
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>>158270705
What's wrong with showing your victims a little courtesy?
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>>158270609
>>158270613
Dark Souls 3 makes it so hard to make kawaii girlus.
At least she looks decent enough in-game. I'll try better next playthrough.
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>>158270612
>it's a "I spawn into the arena and my opponent has two buffs active and is already charging me"
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>>158270754
Fuck no it doesn't making girls is easy as piss.
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>>158270495
Lag switcher

>dueling some fag at pontiff against my better judgement
>both our connections are fine, get a low latency parry on him
>suddenly he starts warping around
>die to attacks I never see
>as soon as I'm dead his connection suddenly becomes fine again
>*point down*

This is why we don't go to Pontiff
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>>158270754

it's hard to make cute grrls in any Dark Souls game.
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>>158270721
Oh, thanks a lot. I never even noticed that, honestly.

Guess I'll be paying Rosaria a visit very soon.
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PC FC, Pontiffs! Pass dsg

COME HAVE FUN
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So the new pyro hand is just plain better than the vanilla pyro hand?
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>>158270754
idk about females, but it's really easy to make cute girls (male) in ds3, way easier than the other games
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FUCK CLUB AT BONTIFF SULYMAN
PASS: dsg
Come and cum.
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>>158270972
That thing is not cute anon
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>>158270941
SIGN UP HOE
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>>158270972
>makes their character look like a human cabbage patch doll
>calls it cute
You, my friend, are sick.
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>>158270495
You got outplayed, son
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>>158270941
>>158271005
bunch of liars ive been waiting for 3 minutes already
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>>158270256
dark sousl 1 pvp looks so fucking unfun to play

im sorry but anybody that thinks this is good gameplay is suffering from acute nostalgia

there is no way in hell you can tell me with a straight face that dark souls 3 isn't better than dark souls 1 or 2
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>>158271101
Looks great in game, that's what's doable on a male character, it was harder in BB and DS1
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>>158270959
more damage on melee spells, less damage on ranged
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>>158271101
>cabbage patch doll

LOL
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>>158271204
If it wasn't for soul memery I'd say 2 is better than 3, but as it stands DaS1 has the worst pvp desu
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>>158271304
Was that hinted at somehow? I know it's true
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Xth for the best weapon in the series since ds1
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>>158271430
STOP IT'S MINE. MINE!
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This is the worst FC host of all time.
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>>158271627
t. Drake
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>>158271627
What's he doing
>>
>tfw no bf
>>
Man Valorheart sucks at everything except 1v1 duels
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>>158271627
i dont know man i just got killed by a lagging bkga guy and im upset

might as well run ds1 again
>>
I'm not sure what else I can do to fix my game besides hurting myself bad enough that some forces beyond my comprehension will hear my plea or pity me or be amused at my worthlessness to help me out.
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>>158268901
>spending 10+ hours farming knights
>something which From should have fixed a long time ago anyway
nah, fuck you. if From can't be bothered to do a simple fix like increasing drop rates then fuck it
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>Ran out of estus
>nearly dead
>can't use a lifegem because alonne will punish

That was tense
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>>158271717
im going to force myself to use it during a 1-120 playthrough no matter what fight
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>>158271749
Might as well try deleting it and reinstalling. Also move your save and see if it works on a fresh one.
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>>158271472
Fuck you, you can never handle the exquisite design of this wonder of a weapon
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>>158271697
Committing sudoku apparently. I killed >>158271627 and then host rolled off a cliff

>>158271731
Am I lagging that bad? My internet isn't that shit

>>158271768
>healing against Alonne
you didn't really win then
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>>158271627
>>158271667
>>158271697
kill yourselves and stop using this general as a chat for your circlejerk worthless pcucks
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>>158271627
Turns out he killed aldritch ...
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>>158271836
not the worst ive seen but youre stuttering

respect for using bkga though
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>>158271717
What if you have someone else with you also using valorheart?
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>>158271204
>>158270256
Dark Souls 3 has the best PvP by far.

Don't get me wrong, DaS 1 and 2 were a ton of fun at the time but retrospectively they're a broken mess compared to DaS 3.

Regarding backstabs, I think that they were both ubiquitous in DaS 1 and impossible to pull off in DaS 3. Seriously the only times I get backstabs in PvP is by accident. It's pretty much impossible to punish anything with a backstab unless the other player stands still for a whole second. There should be a happy medium. You should be able to punish estus healing with a backstab for example but you shouldn't be able chain backstab like you could in 1.
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>>158271812
everytime the game crashes it also crashes steam then it takes 30ish seconds for steam to verify its installed and im tired of trying different shit like moving saves and integrity for the past 2 hours I just want god to kill me so I can have a lasting impression on something
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>>158271853
I'm sorry, what were you discussing that we were interrupting? Oh. Nothing.
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>>158271853
signed. jelly ps4 loser
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>>158271903
Anon, I get backstabs WAY too often in DaS3

I've had over 900 hours of practice obtaining them, but I get PLENTY of backstabs, especially when bestoc turtling.
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>>158271920
Sorry
Verifying integrity has always broken DS3 for me
Try a full reinstall
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>>158271903

>Estus chug souls
>I have more i-frames while rolling souls
>gank souls
>offhand caestus souls
>carthus rouge souls
>curse souls
>I can't be invaded after I kill a boss souls
>Sorcery sucks souls
>Miracles sucks souls
>having the best pvp
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>>158271964
What type of backstabs are you talking about?

Just the normal circle around them while locked on or do you mean the unlocked running backstabs?
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>>158271880
Hmm weird, everything looks fine on my end, only 'laggy' thing I saw on my end was getting tagged a little off to the side by your halberd

BKGA has been my weaponfu since the first game, I was so happy it wasn't shit in 3 like it was with 2's stupid split damage shit moveset garbage

It lost a bit when it got the AR and stam use nerf but I still love it
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>>158271784
Yeah I'm using it and the javelin in my NORDIC cosplay
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>>158271768
>you will never have moments like these in das3 because heals are free and combat is based around spamming rolls to counter the boss' unending combos instead of dodging precise attacks
feels bad, bloodborne was a mistake
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>>158272062
Any backstabs

The most common backstabs by far are during:

farron greatsword first L1 setup BS
fugs/bkugs WA
jumping attacks
parrying with anything other than caestus

but I can get backstabs maybe 1 in 15 duels or so just by circling around my opponent, similarly to what I would assume backstabbing in dark souls 1 feels like
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>>158272052
Yes it's still better than the boring 1 dimensional PvP from the previous games. They added a ton of things like weapon arts that really add depth to PvP. Like I said it's not perfect, but it's as close to balanced as Souls has ever been.

Please stop pretending that previous games didn't have ridiculous broken shit as well.

e.g. DaS 1 gank squads were much worse with havelmom ninja flipping lightning claymore wiedling faggots spamming TwoP and WoG.
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>>158271948
Jelly about what, getting cucked by hackers and not getting to play Bloodborne? I sure am
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>>158272280
I know you're just shitposting but I've had this on my chest for days and just now realized how to spit it out

I think Bloodborne was primarily designed to be a PvE game, and it shows given how much details was put into the bosses, enemies, and lore. Almost no attention was given to PvP throughout the entire game's lifecycle.
>>
>>158272280
Why do Soniggers always start these puerile platform wars?
>>
Why wouldn't you want to start as a deprived in DaS III?
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Shhh, grandpa is sleeping.
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>>158272280
>>158272357
and I think this is the primary reasoning behind why it's had such a huge drop-off in players, especially for a souls game, which has always been a shining example of the Cult Classic
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>>158272421
because 10int/fai is bad?
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>>158272421
Because it's not min max optimal stats for any build except Pyro Bleed Luck Quality, and even then....
>>
what're the arena level ranges?
>>
>>158272381
It's one guy, hide filter and ignore
>>158272357
That's pretty much true for all souls
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>>158271706
>tfw no gf
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>>158272250

> They added a ton of things like weapon arts that really add depth to PvP

Not really, when many WAs are shared, and may are highly telegraphed and can be avoided by rolling.
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>>158272554
>tf no fc
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>>158272428
WAKE UP GRANDPA!
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>>158272381
because they had no games for 8 years.

let them have bloodborne.
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>>158272545
Anon, DS3 was designed from the ground up to be a PvP game, and you can see that given how little attention to detail was given to the story and boss design compared to the previous iterations.
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>>158272530
No one knows yet because it's hard to figure out because unless you somehow get people in the same match who can communicate to each other what level they are, no one knows
>>
>>158272421
Dunno lol, maybe the shitload of wasted stats
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>>158272610
>tfw no ds3
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>>158272461
>>158272509
>>158272694

is minmaxing so important for that 7 bonus damage?
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>>158272610
>tfw no souls
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>>158272727
You could have more VIT or VIG or extra END or anything but 10/10 fai/int
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>>158272727
If all you can get out of like 20 extra points is 7 damage, you may have legitimate brain damage
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>>158272727
literally this

fun/aesthetic/feel > absolute effectiveness / viability

t. pre-poise 2.0 Farron Breakdance Sword user
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>>158272610
Is the FC over?
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the firth reply decides her fate.
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>>158272727
>why would you not start deprived?
>gives reasons
>wow min maxing fag get outta here
?
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>>158272727
that's an opportunity for your opponent to get away with 7 health
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>>158272624
YOU GOSHDANG KIDS
NO RESPECT FOR YOUR ELDERS
YOU BETTER GET OFF MY GODDURNED LAWN IF YOU KNOW WHAT'S GOOD FOR YA
DIDN'T SERVE IN DRANGLEIC FOR YOU TO GIVE ME LIP
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>>158272805
It never was on, host didn't kill aldritch
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>>158272593
Dude please just shut the fuck up. Anything can be avoided by rolling in this game.

Weapon arts add an awesome dynamic to PvP.

DaS 1 PvP was basically either poise tank R1 spam or backstab fishing.

I seriously wonder if these people denigrating DaS 3 actually PvP'd in previous games...
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>>158272810
DO IT
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>>158272848
Actually no, you cannot avoid the new earthquake weapon art by rolling.

If you're caught, it's a hit no matter what; it ignores iframes.
>>
>>158272810
lick feet
>>
Whats an optimal stat spread for mlgs?
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How do you even make a qt in this game?
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>>158272836
What? Isn't that what you want, though? You don't want to kill the area boss if you want to summon 5 phantoms.
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>>158272926
Copy sliders
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>>158272727
And why WOULD you start deprived outside of cosplay/challenge purposes?
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>>158272810
self-flagellelate in front of her
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>>158272810

Let her see her brother again.

and by that I mean Kill her
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>>158272926
By having years of slider-fu under your belt

Oblivion taught me everything I needed to know about how to work with FaceGen sliders
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>>158272943
because there's respeccing in this game?
what if i went faith/str and then wanted to go dex/int without hacking?
>>
>>158272810
R1R1 pine bundle R1
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>>158272926
Equip a helmet
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>>158272903
99 strength, 99 dexterity, and 99 intellect

16 str, 40 int
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>>158272926
just autistically do sliders for 60 minutes
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>>158273002
you don't seem like you've learned much
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>>158272887
Okay but you can still roll out of the AoE.
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>>158272810
Give her 30 ears
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>>158273008
Then you would be an idiot. So there's your answer; the one and only reason to start Deprived: if you plan to make a shitty jack-of-all-trades character that respecs constantly and sucks at everything.
Woop-dee-doo.
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>>158273008
Both str/fai and dex/int are best minmaxed with starting knight
>>
>friede has a greatshield-negating grab attack

what the fuck i hate bosses that are designed to directly counter my specific playstyle

i am very angry
>>
>>158273123
how about a pyromancy or quality build if i decided they aren'ted for me
>>
>>158273151
Greatshields are not a playstyle, they're a mental sickness.
>>
Is the FC ded?
>>
>>158272926
wear a mask
>>
>>158273201
Your face is a mental illness.
>>
>>158273206
It was never alive
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>ask friend why he isnt getting the dlc the day it comes out
>"oh I gotta wait til my next paycheck
>"What did you spend your money on this week?"
>"I wanted to buy Hearthfire and Dragonborn for skyrim so I can get the free remastered edition"
>mfw
shit gave me a fucking aneurysm.
>>
>moseying through brightstone cove
>past a cliff
>SUDDENLY THE DUKE'S DEAR FREJA

how come 3 never did cool shit like this?
>>
>>158273193
You'd still be wasting stats with deprived and you can make more characters, you know
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>>158273303
He did the right thing, they're both better DLCs.
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>>158273201
i have never been so insulted

are you really so dumb and/or lazy that you can't invest in a deep man-serpent hatchet?

there is truly very little i can do against one
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>>158273303
I enjoy playing Skyrim once in a while
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>>158273303
probably a much better investment 2bh (to be honest) f.am (senpai)
>>
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I don't even give a fuck if they're bad, as soon as the DLC drops I'm getting Valorheart and the Javelin and I'm making a Titus Maximus character.
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>>158273303
>need housefire and db
>they cost 28 bucks on steam
>cost 22 bucks for non-steam keys

>legendary edition is only 15
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>>158273401
Thats peeves build, you cant steal it.
>>
>>158273303
Why didn't he get the legendary edition when it was on sale for like 13 cents then?
I mean it's obvious he's some kind of retard but he could at least be intelligent about it.
>>
>>158273390
i didn't actually come here to shill Enderal

but you should download and try playing Enderal
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>>158273424
>Peeve
like I give a fuck about some cancerous eceleb trash
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>>158272903
minimum str/dex, 40 int.
~25endurance
35-39 vigor
and then dump vitality and stack poise

The WA is trash so you have no need for attunement.
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They are adding more arenas with patches right?
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howd i do
>>
I invaded nyanners and she demolished me, i'm ashamed
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>>158273624
*with the 2nd DLC

>>158273636
Less horrible than most
>>
>>158273317
Because despite its shortcomings DS2 wasn't afraid to try new things and change up what you expect out of a Souls game

DS3 is safe as fuck, constantly rehashing the first game while not trying very much new things
>>
What time does the DLC go live on PC today? It says Oct 24th but it's not even pre-downloaded for me.
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>>158273719
15 hours from now
>>
They literally no new forms.
They didn't even buff/change dragon form

Fuck these lazy hacks. Its clear that Japan Studio and sonybux are the only crutch they have, and Hackazaki is completely incompetent without them.
>>
>>158273636
looks less gross than the last few posted

that's about all you can hope for in this game is to minimize the shit, but the shit will always be present
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WTB more Swordgrass. Upgrading my mace to +4 was a mistake.
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>>158273735
>literally half an hour before I go to work

Who the fuck decides on these retarded times. Just make it a midnight download, Jesus fuck.
>>
>>158273804
Try farming the ghru right next to the bonfire inside the swamp, I got all 30 in under an hour with 361 item discovery.
>>
>>158273804
If you need the rewards I'll just give you them
No one else deserves to farm Ghrus
>>
>>158273909
timezones you retard
>>
>>158273934
Midnight for each timezone. Or just for me. I don't give a shit about dirty fucking ching chong land.
>>
Which shield that can parry has the most stability?
>>
ow
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>>158273930
Thanks for the offer, I don't actually need the rewards, was just having lots of fun with this build in the clusterfucks that the swamp can become. Just had an invasion where there was 2 watchdogs, a white phantom, a blue sentinel and a Dark Spirit.
>>
>>158274023
Me. I am the best.
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Anyone able to help me out with Dancer on PC? Password is dsg. I'll be grateful. Place sign by the fogdoor if you feel like bursting down the bitch,
>>
>>158274023
is this a trick question?

Using the Farron Greatsword or Parrying Dagger you can use the Curse-ward greatshield to parry at 70 stability, bk shield at 69 stability, and wolf cuck greatshield at 72 stability

otherwise you're looking for the lothric knight shield, which is 66 stability
>>
after a bit of killing my character becomes blacked
how do I negate this?
>>
>>158274131
on my way, slut

t. drake please summon me, being sl242 is really only useful for co-op now that im being discriminated against in fight clubs
>>
>>158274150

stop rolling through oil and mud
>>
>>158274131
I'll come.
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>>158273303
Dragonborn is pretty awesome.
>>
>>158274069
Just roll it off
>>
>>158274208
>>158274239
Thanks dudes. I'll wait for both of you at the door. Again the pass is just dsg.
>>
>>158274069

hey man, I think you got something stuck to your head.
>>
>>158274276
Connection error?
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>>158274276
sorry i was getting cucked by ng+49 lothric knights
>>
>>158274208
I like fighting you, Drake
>>
>>158274210
stop killing
>>
>>158274364
>>158274365
It's akright. Coming back. Invisible knights and phantoms.
>>
>>158274131
You were sliding for me, bruh.
>>
anyone want to duel?
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>>158274371
i like fighting you too, NMS
>>
>>158274405
You are quite a laggy lad
>>
So, how do you access the dlc?
>>
Guess im a lagging cunt tonight. Thanks anyway dudes.
>>
>>158274451
SL?
>>
>tfw you beat Ornstain and Smough on your second try

Any co-op tips on beating them with your host?
>>
>>158274463
I'm not NMS, actually
>>
>>158274601
I'll keep trying, just don't blame me if I die for no reason
>>
>>158274620
have one of you fight one, have the other fight the other

alternatively, focus fire one, burn down the other

>>158274632
sorry, wishful thinking on my part
>>
>>158274606
120
also i'm pretty rusty and don't know shit about the new changes
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>>158274620
>stain
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>>158274661
Sure, where at and password?

>>158274645
I actually enjoy dueling you too, helps me figure out how to get around poise.
>>
>>158274463
I've got about 30mins to kill.

Want to duel at Demon Bridge? Pass is dsg
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So the dlc is out for xbone, right? is corona confirmed low damage?
>>
>>158274620
separate ornstein and smough and the fight is piss easy.
>>
Watchdog here. Is it possible for people to CE in the DLC bossweapons? Because I just killed someone who was using a Scythe that summoned an offhand scythe and it dealt fucktons of frost.
>>
I wanna try my 40 poise lothric knight spear, any faytklub goin on?
>>
>>158274715
Of course
>>
We gucci, boys. Thanks for helping with the Dancer. Guess summoning two made it lag. That sucks. Wew
>>
>>158274694
High Wall i suppose
dsg

oh and pc if that wasn't clear enough nobody plays on console lol
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>>158274715
Yes.
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>>158274620
See who he goes for and distract the other without spending resources or damaging him much. Whenever you can, sneak in some hits on the one the host is fighting, although each of them is easy enough for anyone to beat on his own, provided minimal input from the other
>>
>>158274768
Sign's on the wood thing.
>>
>>158274710
You're about five times better off just using throwing knives
>>
>finally after days of waiting
>someone finally needs help in coop
>get summoned
>cant actually enter boss fog to help them

im going to neck myself lads

>>158274706
go to high wall
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>>158274809
no! i will make corona good! it's too fucking rad to not be used
>>
>>158274825
>>158274801
>>158274768
>>158274706
Hold up, we can't be having this.
>>
>>158274857
Nah last time I fought Drake I got embarrassingly destroyed.

I need to make it up
>>
>>158274893
No, we're having two separate duels at High Wall with the dsg pass. We're going to clash.
>>
>>158274852
It is seriously awful
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>FC faggots shitting up the thread with their circle jerking once again
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>>158274801
hmm

am i fighting 212 or Ley?
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>>158274936
If the nigga wants to make it good, then let the nigga make it good.
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>>158274947
Well I don't know who you are. Were you the one who requested Drake?
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>>158274946
This.

This is not your personal game chat, cunts.
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>>158274946
Circle jerking is the Discord shit.
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>>158272889
>>158273013
i cant do it...
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What greatswords are worth using? Can't decide between claymore or hollowslayer and I'm not sure about the others
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What's the best starting class for STR/Pyro?
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When is the dlc coming out, today or tomorrow? At what hour?
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>>158275073
pyro

>>158275084
for pc 14.5hrs
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>>158275073
Pyromancer.
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>>158275120
>for pc
I assume it's the same for consoles, right?

14.5 hours would be midnight here. Not bad considered I've probably got nothing to do tomorrow.
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>>158275120
>>158275135
Is it still good if I want to respec to FTH/Dex later on or will a Knight or Deprived be better?
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>arena doesn't earn you covenant tokens
>gravetender is not a summon other players boss
>not-lloyds' bossweapon isn't a giant bowl
>only one ring and it's boring as fuck frost res
>no gestures
>no covenants
can't handle all this disappointment at once desu

>>158275201
same for xbone
ps4 is another 6hrs later for some reason
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laggy at all Ley?
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>>158275065
Claymore for refined and you want to drop some mad buff action on it, good weapon art also.

Bastard sword is the exact same as the claymore, but a little shorter and no pokies. You get stomp, though, which is good against mentally challenged players.

Executioner's sword for a STR/magic build that wants to drop a full strength buff on a near refined damage weapon without all that investment. Weapon art is useless.

Hollowslayer is if you want some donk hyper armor framage at the expense of buffs.

Wolf Knight for more damage & some meme attacks

Black Knight for MAXIMUM DAMAGE and a useless weapon art and some nice heavy attacks.
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I decided to chart up the updated Poise/Weight ratios for each armor set.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1s2JeNuaEL4SYq0mZTkuefEBQjxiqDYYGxFenSuBQHZQ/edit?usp=sharing

This is the most efficient outfit in terms of poise. In terms of fashion, it's ugly as sin.

The top 3 of each are:
Helmets
>Sellsword Helm
>Aristocrat's Mask
>Creighton's Steel Helm

Armors
>Armor of the Sun
>Dragonscale Armor
>Embraced Armor of Favor

Gauntlets
>Gauntlets of Favor
>Outrider Gauntlets
>Eastern Gauntlets


Leggings
>Leggings of Favor
>Iron Leggings
>Alva

Some surprising options turn up though.
Cornyx's Garb is very efficient for a low weight chest piece, as are the Shadow Gauntlets. The Dragonscale Waistcloth makes for pretty decent midweight leggings.
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>>158275250
Fuck off
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>>158275048
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>>158275250
No.
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>>158275234
>ps4 is another 6hrs later for some reason
>6am
What the fuck? Oh for fuck's sake, Sony, really?
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>>158275253
heavy flam beats ex gs on a pure str build, and is longer with a better WA

>>158275221
>Is it still good if I want to respec to FTH/Dex later on or will a Knight or Deprived be better?
then knight would be better
respecing pyro into dex/fai would be pretty shitty because you have points wasted in int
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>>158275274

admittedly, that could look a lot worse. like, there's not any super obvious clippings and the like.
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>>158262752
So according to this chart, I would only need 19-20 poise to stand a medium weapon attack with a greathammer. Why do people suggest 22.33 poise for then? Does swinging a weapon has a hidden modifier?
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>all this hatemail from using DLC weapons from fags who claim you "RUINED THEIR EXPERIENCE WITH SPOILERS"
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>>158275274
why is being the absolute optimal you can be so important to people? the best armor, the best poise, the best weapons

just use what you think is cool. why play games if all you're concerned about it winning? just have fun.
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>>158275393
>Weapons are now spoilers
Some people are just dumb
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>>158275253
Why is perseverance on BKS bad, but good on mace or whatever else?
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>>158275427
Too slow to make it worth anything.

Well, pre-buff. No idea about it now.
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>>158275393
why be an asshole in the first place though? can't blame people for wanting to pvp before the dlc drops and then going offline once they get it
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So any art or anything of that cutey painter girl? I have no clue who she is
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>>158275489
>being an asshole
>using weapons in the game files
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>>158262579
First playthrough here, my Leonhard is gone after giving me the free orbs and won't appear even though I got the pale tongue, did I do something wrong? Should I just proceed?
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>>158275253
Hollowslayer sounds right up my alley, since I never bother with buffs anyways beyond munching a grass.

I'm really just looking for alternatives to use when I wanna mix things up and put away the BKGA a while. I've basically been using nothing but that weapon since launch although there was a few month gap between then and now because I lost the original save which I just remade.
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>>158263216
I can if you are still around
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>>158275551
Offer the tongue
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>>158275417
My usual outfit is actually really bad for Poise, but I'm still going to wear it though. Minmaxing isn't very important to me, I just like collecting information.
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>>158275347
Woah you're right about the flamberge, for some reason I thought that was a poorly scaling weapon best used raw, like astora's or the morning star.

On that same note, the bastard sword is 4 AR less on a heavy build with less dexterity investment and a better weapon art as well.
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>>158275371
Any help with why 22+ poise is suggested as a minimum for great hammers vs medium weapons instead of 19?
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>>158275546
well for one you're getting access to weapons you haven't payed for, hundreds of people worked hundreds of hours to make them

two, like i said. some people were probably going to go offline for the dlc and find out all of what it has for themselves
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>>158273378
>>158273390
>>158273394
>>158273408
>>158273442
>>158274248
you dont get it

hes buying them again for pc

but he has already played them before

he thinks the new revamped version is better simply because it has better graphical quality

which isnt true at all
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>>158275618
>;_;
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>>158275610
When you do an R1, you poise health recovers to 80% of it's max; so you need to calculate what poise you'd need assuming 80% of your max if you want to be able to poise through everything every time.

On using a weapon art, it recovers to 100% of it's max, so if you use one every time you trade, you can get away with 19 poise.
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>>158275234
>>gravetender is not a summon other players boss
How would you even balance that? Fighting the sanic fast wolf and a player at the same time would be ridiculous, and if they made it so that the wolf only spawns when they're at low health, people would just run away
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>>158275554
Hollowslayer also has the amazing R2 poke.

That and Leo Ring give it a lot of options
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>>158275705
Makes complete sense now. Thanks mate
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>>158275361
With Dragonscale Armor in 2nd place for chest armors, you can make some livable outfits certainly.
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>dark souls 3 has good level design

I wished people would stop perpetuating this myth. It looks nice but the only good levels it has follow the 1 or 2 bonfire only formula. Limited to only irythil dungeon, grand archives, and cathedral of the deep. And its just that, formulaic. There is nothing cool like releasing New Londo waters to reveal an entire area below. There is nothing like rolling a snowball to open a short cut like in ivory king. There is nothing like insight mechanic which would reveal hidden monstrosities like Bloodborne. It just is and its very bland, they weren't creative at all. This game is such a disappointment and looks like the DLCs aren't going to help.
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>>158275274
>>158275783
This just means you're going to start seeing Dragonscale Armor everywhere.
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>>158275705
>>158275770
The chart is using the 80% value. 22 may get you through R2s or something. I only used R1s for simplicity's sake.
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>tfw Faraam set become the sweet spot in terms of poise and armor
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>>158275705
Does that mean I would need 24 poise to trade with an medium R1 weapon? Since 80% of 24 is 19?
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Someone else BO9 me since fight clubs are for nerds

put your sign down at high wall over here in this little hole thing with the arrow pointing into it
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>>158275870
>There is nothing like insight mechanic which would reveal hidden monstrosities like Bloodborne.

You mean like two Amygdalas?
Insight was underused and you know it.
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>>158275902
Sorry I had to leave early m80.
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>>158275870
the shortcut in ivory king is completely unnecessary because you have zero reason to go back to there, you've already freed the lloyce knight
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>>158275942
good duels senpai
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>>158275870
>new londo
trash
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>>158275949
I still don't understand that elevator shortcut in archdragon peak in ds3
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>>158275909
It was, but its still flavor that DS3 completely lacks. All Bloodborne levels worked with single lamps, yet they completely failed with DS3.
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>>158275427
It's not really good on mace either. Perseverance is almost useless against good players who don't mash R1 as soon as they see the first hit connect, you're just handing them free damage, albeit reduced.
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>>158275902
nigga you looke like fortknox
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>>158275902
pass dsg btw
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>>158275979

>Hating new Londo

It's the best post Anor Londo level
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>>158275870
>There is nothing cool like releasing New Londo waters to reveal an entire area below.
neither do the other games, including bloodborne

>There is nothing like rolling a snowball to open a short cut like in ivory king
neither do the other games, including bloodborne

>There is nothing like insight mechanic which would reveal hidden monstrosities like Bloodborne
that has nothing to do with level design

> Limited to only irythil dungeon, grand archives, and cathedral of the deep
you're contradicting yourself

>This game is such a disappointment and looks like the DLCs aren't going to help
oh, you're that shitposting faggot. nevermind
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>>158275909
>>158275949
>>158275979
>reading comprehension

DS3 is unimaginative shit. It doesn't matter if you think those things were useless, they made the world feel more alive than the shit in shit souls 3,
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>>158275575
Where?
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>>158276030
the best of the turds is shit
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>>158275994
>but its still flavor that DS3 completely lacks
you mean like the army of flying pilgrim butterflies? quit being a hypocritical bitch
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>>158276051
>>158276110
triggered DS3baby
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>>158276092
sounds like you're not willing to accept the great things about 3 because you're a biased crybaby that needs his worthless opinions validated
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>>158276092
I didn't say new londo was useless or DS3 was more imaginative, I said it was shit, idiot
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>>158276028
*makes fortress noises*

still waiting for that paired greatshield
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>>158276002
Yeah, that's been about the only way I can think of using it. Sometimes it works out, but against a smart player, it's just a losing trade.

What about stance then? What makes it good?
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so my friend just told me he got a penalty point ban.

You know, for disconnecting.

I thought those didn't actually exist? I've disconnected THOUSANDS of times since the game's launch from fucking CE faggots and vodkasuckers, and haven't gotten banned. Is it like a timed thing or what?
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>>158276110
Pilgrim butterflies were used for a single boss fight, and never were brought up again. Not for level, not for lore, or anything. At best they are nothing more than back ground wyverns in Dragon Shrine.
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>>158275994
>All Bloodborne levels worked with single lamps

Plenty of areas in Bloodborne had multiple lamps. Yahar'gul had like three or four.
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>>158276236
BC is not disconnect
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>>158272626

didnt they have DeS and DaS1 though?

Didn't PetitionCucks change DaS from being a console exclusive game from begging?
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>>158276242
>not for lore

They're "Pilgrim" Butterflies, anon. The fact their existence explains the deal with Pilgrims wearing shells on their back is lore.
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>>158276249
No it literally had 2. One didn't even worked until you cleared the gank.
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>>158276157
>gets proven wrong
>acts like a baby and insults others

looks like there's only one person triggered here, sweetheart

>>158276242
neither were the amygdalas , you keep giving other games the exceptions that you're bashing 3 about
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>>158276258
He said he got the message that he had severed world connections or whatever it says, and had to use a white circlet. What did it mean then? How did it happen to him? Is there some actual trigger for it or what?
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poise still seems fucking useless

or am i not poising right?
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>>158276210
Greatsword stance is actually not that great compared to straight sword, but it's got it's uses.

The R1's hyper armor starts extremely fast, and as of the update has essentially unbreakable poise, so you can use it to trade with stronger weapons. (It has a larger attack multiplier, so you'll usually outdamage ultras with it) It also breaks shields and stuff, if you ever chance upon someone using one.

The R2 isn't as good at rollcatching after a combo as straight swords, but it can still work sometimes, and can trade extremely well with other weapons due to it being a thrusting attack and the increased absorption it gives during the attack, though keep in mind the hyper armor frames start much later during it compared to other attacks.
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>>158275250
Think I'm done for today. Was summoned by this guy and got my ass handed to me by a mace.

Thanks for the fights.
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>>158276317
I went ahead and checked:
>Yahar'gul, Unseen Village
>Yahar'gul Chapel
>Advent Plaza
>Hypogean Gaol

Discounting Gaol because it becomes inactive later still leaves you with 3 lanterns in the area.
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>>158276328
Amygdylas were a level hazard at least. Not to mention one is used to teleport you to nightmare and other for DLC.
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>>158276343
Closing the game or disconnecting the internet is punishable
Black crystaling is not
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>>158276356
Try it out with a mace.

You'll see.

Thanks for the fights guys, off to sleep because I need to converse my strength for the DLC marathon I'm going to have.

t. 212 poisemonster
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>>158276360
alright

you too
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>>158276356
Poise is not DS1 or DS2 poise
Poise only matters during hyperarmor
During hyperarmor, poise is the opposite of useless
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>>158276328
Didn't prove jack shit. Shit souls 3 is the worst game. Accept it fuckboi, you can head on over to reddit anytime if you wsnt a hugbox.
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1 hour down, 17 swordgrass to go.

All I see are the phantoms of about 6 different guys farming the exact same grus by the bonfire over and over.

kill me now
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>>158276497
does it only function with certain weapons? i had 50 poise just to try it and it still seemingly did nothing while attacking
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>>158276367
Plaza is the One Reborn arena though.
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>>158276542
Do you want me to drop you the rewards?
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>>158276407
Alright, let's see what all you're going to say doesn't count.

We've got:
>A dragon you can scare off in the High Wall
Probably doesn't count because Hellkite did it first, right?

>The gates in the Cathedral of the Deep you can use to trap the Giants
I'm going to guess this one doesn't count because it's easier to just kill them.

>The Ballista in Smouldering Lake
Well, I should at least let you dismiss one of them on your own.
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>>158276503
>anything being worse than Soul Memory
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>>158276558
Only certain weapons, and even then only certain attacks have hyperarmour. Try the mace, you'll see.

>>158276572
Oh dear god, yes. PC?
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THE DLC IS FUCKING INEXCUSABLE. ANYONE WHO DEFENDS THIS TRASH NEEDS TO OFF THEMSELVES. AFTER PLAYING BLOOD AND WINE, HEARTS OF STONE, THE OLD HUNTERS. THIS GAME WAS NOTHING BUT A CASHGRAB
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does anyone wanna just have a highwall PCFC because I was about to go to NG++
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What's a good SL and upgrade limit for the Cathedral? I was thinking 40 at +4, but that's probably far too high.
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>>158276497
>Poise is not DS1 or DS2 poise
>Poise only matters during hyperarmor
That's the way it worked in 2 though.
Compared to 2 it just was overnerfed (before the patch) and actually good (after).
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>>158276503
stop shitposting, there's better ways to use your time other than epixtrollzng people you're never going to meet and who will forget about you in 3 hours
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>>158275909
2 amygdalas are better than the eclipse having literally zero impact on the world
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>>158276604
PC, Tower on the Wall, pass dsg, put your sign
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>>158276562
And? Are you saying you want to count it forward as being a Lantern for the next area?

Either way, the whole "Bloodborne areas all worked with a single lantern" is fucked.
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>>158276667
Down. Thanks anon!
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>>158276418
Okay but I don't BC because you can't BC when you actually would need to, like, when you get invaded by some faggot using curse. so I DC, why haven't I been banned yet?
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>>158276660
they were used for the dragonslayer armor

and the amays were used twice, with little impact on the world

you're argument is stupid
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>>158276639
No
1: Poise always works
2: Poise works during any action
3: Poise works during hyperarmor only
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>>158276597
Actually Demon's Souls did first.
Useless.
That was neat idea ruined by trash idea of a level
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>>158276719
Not seeing it, you're at the right bonfire with the right pass, yes?
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>>158276603
>>158276659
>literally can't handle your favorite game being shat on
Not just me either, even normies hate this trash
>7.8
LMFAO
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it's funny how petty you guys are

if it isn't absolutely astounding it's "trash" or "garbage"

it would be great if you guys could communicate without sounding like spoiled, hyperbolic children
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>>158276791
PC, tower, dsg, yep. What SL are you at?
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>>158276731
>2: Poise works during any action
Then poisecasting would've been possible, but it's not. Not even going full haveltaur would help.
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not sure if there's that many people but FC time
put signs up here as usual
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>>158276812
you used "fuckboi" and "LMAO". we know you're shitpoting just for the sake of wasting people's time. go be a useless sack of shit somewhere else, or better yet, do something productive like committing suicide.
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>>158276849
SL doesn't matter with password. Tower on the Wall, not High Wall of Lothric
I'll put my sign down instead
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>>158276816
Damage control harder. Nothing can excuse the existence of shit souls 3
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>>158276816
it's lame. is that better, you fucking softie?
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>>158276909
I see it!
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>>158276919
i'm not that anon and i wasn't even specifically talking about dark souls 3

jesus, calm down you fucking sperg
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>invaded just as I reach Irithyl on my DLC character
>guy has base health
what are these people doing
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>>158276732
>Useless.

So then why is the completely useless snowball shortcut such a big deal to you?
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>>158276676
No the lantern hardly counts as it is the very end of the level there is nothing but teleporting and walking between it and the mensis lantern it's like saying Gascone's lantern is relevant to going through central yharnam.
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>>158276816
i wish we had thread IDs because with each passing year this place becomes worse and worse and even my filter list can't keep up with amount of degenerates here
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>>158276723
amygdalas were
1. A boss
2. A level hazard
3. A method of transportation

Pilgrims are adds to a boss fight where they may as well not exist.
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>>158268684
>I believe dks3 has the most "decent" pvp meta out of all the souls games
nigga what, DS3 pvp is basically :
>equip one of the five meta meme weapon
>NEVER be the first to attack, just dance like a faggot untill one of the two loses patience and try a running r1 or a bait r2
>The other can then try to hit because the first one made the mistake to break the dance
>go back to dancing and repeat

no fun allowed
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>>158276909
Awesome, thanks anon! Also damn, post-patch mace is insane (totally not my potato-level pvp ability, or anything).
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>>158277002
it would be useful for identifying and hiding repeating shitposters

honestly, if any board needs it, specifically /vg/ would be so much better with ID's.
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What was the best meta?
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>>158276893
>triggered
aww what's the matter, can't handle your game being shit. Its ok maybe if you defend hard enough, Miyazaki will let you suck his cock
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>>158276853
pass is dsg, naturally
if nobody shows up in 5 minutes just ignore this
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>Gundyr's halberd doesn't even do more poise damage like it used to

welp

so much for that

guess I'm going greatclub
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>>158277023
a method of transportation is no more useful than the butterflies going around, the dlc entrance could have been anything

and the stage hazard is no different than the ones used in DA boss fight
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>>158277064
>implying using overpowered weapons and playing passively is not rewarded in any game of the series in terms of PvP
What you've said can be applied to everything, even BB, and it'd still work.
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>>158277092
140 with lots of vit
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>>158276850
my b
Definitely all melee attacks in any case

>>158277069
You warping around every second didn't help :^)
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>>158276853
omw!
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>>158276990
>No the lantern hardly counts

So then if we're taking out boss area ones, suddenly some of DaS3's bonfires "hardly count", right?
>>
So it's GS-meta now? I'm not sure what to feel about this
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>>158277253
It certainly feels better than Defenders Greatsword meta.
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>>158277246
good, I got invaded 3 times by this same mad spirit before I remembered to kill myself
>>
is there anyone else can't find their weaponfu at all..? I miss my manserpent greatsword
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>>158277092
twitchspinning in das2
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>>158277165
Yeah, having internet issues right now, my router is dropping packets like crazy. I stay away from FCs away for that reason.
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>>158277253
>So it's GS-meta now
no
gs are just one of the viable types now, they are not like passive glaives destroying everything pre-1.08
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>>158277247
Well I can't say I've ever seen an area between a boss lamp/bonfire and the next lamp/fire that ever posed any real threat.
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>>158277253
Maces are better, GS are better, many things are better
CCS still easily beats them
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>>158276853
>>158277112
got 3 signs, anyone who comes is appreciated
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>>158277382
>CCS still easily beats them
i've invaded and was invaded by a shitton of CCS users since last patch and none of them posed considerable threat
unless you mean passive pontiff shittery
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>>158277306
I have the problem of having fallen in love with a weapon just before it became meta
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Should I name my default knight character "Generic Knight", or "Trailer Guy"?
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Do you think any of the DLC will go on sale for christmas? I'm really on the fence about buying it and have been trying to avoid spoilers, but I don't really want to get it full price if it looks shit
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>>158277453
Most people are garbage, big surprise. A competent person with a CCS will easily beat a competent person with a GS.
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>>158277495
Generic K***ht for sure
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>>158277495
name it generic night
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>>158277495

Some Guy
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>>158277092
Havelixadontosaurus Heximus.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TboX4CPGWHA
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>>158277495
Sir Stan Dard
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>>158266815
>Unique

Actually it's the forest Guardian Greataxe from DS1
>>
reminder to bully gravetender with guardbreaks
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>>158277364
Let's see, you've got:
>The area between Dancer's Bonfire and Oceiros
>From Crystal Sage to the Cleansing Chapel
>The Catacombs following Abyss Watchers
>After Pontiff to Anor Londo
>Technically the upper half of Archdragon Peak post Ancient Wyvern
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>arena didn't even get its own area
>just reused Soul of Cinder area assets
I do wonder how much it costed to create the DLC.
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>>158262579
Haven't played in one birrion years, speaking almost purely on PvE.

Are greathammers any better or is the game still straightsword quality onry fuck you?
>>
oh right I forgot I'm unembered
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>>158277787
SS is still best
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>>158277784
No way someone made it a .gif...
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>>158277669
nice """""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""boss"""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""
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>>158277784
the models for those generic moveset weapons are expensive
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>>158277784
That's a good smug.
>>
DS3 is so bad that shitposting here and getting (You)s is more enjoyable.
>>
>>158277842
>could have been a giant bear or stag
>giant wolf AGAIN
>>
while I'm hosting does anyone happen to have sirris' set they could drop for me
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>>158277983
Sure
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>>158277983
just embering and resummoning
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>>158277495
I did the same thing and named him Default Dan. He was my first PvP guy for this game. Got him all the way to the Pontiff gank meta and maxed all covenants. It was an absolutely fucking hellish experience. Using less retarded restrictions from then on felt easy mode.
>>
>>158277936
Even if it had been a different big animal we still would've called it sif 3.0.
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>>158277936
>model a wolf
>call it a rat
Fucking japs
>>
>>158277818
Well having read what I have about the DLC think I'm going to shelve DS3 for good then.
>>
How's my fashion souls? (still need to Rosaria away the stupid hair)
>>
>>158278065
what if it was an upscaled giant crab, like 10 times bigger
>>
>>158278069
It was never mentioned that RRA is a rat.
>Soul of the Royal Rat Authority, of the underground realm.
>Those who choose to serve the Rat King must have the courage to face His challenges.
>>
Is Pyromancy any good for PVP?

Is there a point using Magic or Pyromancy in PvE even though a raw weapon will damage it and you won't get one shotted by most bosses?
>>
>>158278106
awful gauntlets
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>>158278125
Then there'd be a lot of JIAN EMMY GRAB :DD meme videos.
>>
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>>158278106
>>
What DLC armor you predict everyone will be wearing?
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>>158278359
whatever meeme meemerson and obobooboo wear
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>sunbroing it up at the high wall for kicks
>good run through the area, like SL 12 with +2 LS
>host triggers the fucking Dancer fight
>nope.jpg
>watch his happy ass get one-shot immediately through the fog gate
What the hell is wrong with these crazy bastards? Stop that.
>>
>>158278359
Vilhelm's, obviously.
It is to DaS3 what Drakeblood was to DaS2.
>>
>>158278402
this

GODDAMN do I hate Souls streamers. I remember Oroboro had this ugly as son fashion in BB (well every game really) and I started seeing it everywhere. Every dude who I summoned or got invaded by was wearing his ugly ass fashion. It made me sick. Even ran into a dude named Not Oroboro.
>>
>>158278438
>not going in there to die like a man with him
what a fucking shitter

get out
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>>158278359
slave leggings, and something else slutty as a top
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>>158278484
I know my abilities and when I'm set up to take on low-level dancer. This guy was just nuts.
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>>158278359
I will be wearing the qt poncho, unless every other person also does
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>>158278529
probably gonna be doing this even though it's armor
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Good shit Nana
Muh killstreak ;_;
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does anyone have a timer for when this shit comes out?
>>
MORE PEOPLE NEEDED AT PC FC HIGHWALL
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>>158278646
13hrs for pc and xbone
19 for ps4
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>>158278621

I thought I won you by luck, I have to admit I don't know how to play around the perseverance of the mace.
>>
Is it me or do gauntlets affect bare fist damage? Does it synergize with VS? Any intel in this?
>>
>>158278765
you pretty much beat him in trades if you R2 whenever he has pers up
mostly just outrange and rollcatch with charged attacks
>>
Anyone got the correct ID for the Millwood Leggings? All of the pastebins i've seen are repeating incorrect info.
>>
sorry about that fire surge but I took more damage than I would have liked from that accidental fall
>>
Boulder heave is __fun__.
>>
At what point can you access the DLC? I have an account ready outside pontiff
>>
>>158278765
Even through Perseverance that thing hits like a truck, I can't afford to trade with it more than a couple times
Just be more careful about whiffing and letting me outspace you
>>
>>158278940
Not far enough
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>>158278940
Cathedral.
>>
Any sorcerers out there tried the Heysel Pick?

Is it any good for PvP?
>>
Did the Black Serpent pyro get nerfed? It seems to be easier to avoid now.
>>
>>158279068
No, it's exactly as it was before.
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>>158278940
Access point is in the Cathedral of the Deep. You're plenty far.
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>>158278940
Cathedral, but i think i heard it's designed for characters past the twins
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>>158279068
no, you just learned the right way to dodge it
>>
Man I love the Winged Knight Helmet but I hate the gap of skin between the bottom of the helmet and armor pieces. There needs to be a bit of chainmail or cloth texture between that gap so it's not just bared skin, or some kind of option for it.
>>
>>158279132
>I hate the gap of skin between the bottom of the helmet and armor pieces
they literally put zero effort into these games
>>
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sorry weyland but there's no way you're trading with black flame unless you have a FUGS
>>
>>158279116
>designed for characters past the twins
Really? Fuck that, I have a level 15 character and one that's SL120, I can't be fucked playing through the game for a third time
>>
>>158279164
What kind of Japanese RPG game with character creation options doesn't have endless cosmetic options, anyway? I'm not saying I want TF2-tier accessories, but just some more options for being able to show the face and look more stylish, or to not have skin gaps between mismatching armor pieces.
>>
>>158266271
This pretty much. It pisses me off too, since I'm american. If the FTC would do their fucking jobs maybe it wouldn't be this shitty.
>>
>He invades
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>>158279132
A lot of armors have this. If you wear closed helms, make your skin black or greyish, it will conceal the issue
>>158278816
Anyone?
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>>158279213
A MAN CAN DREAM
Thanks for hosting tho, I'm out
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>>158263676
Better be able to get that old man's armor set.
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>roll onto black serpent because my frames drop to 0
haha oops
gonna host a little longer then head to sleep
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>>158279395
Yes, you can
Doesn't come with the beard though
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>>158279374
>School his ass and kick it back to whatever darkened shithole world he came from
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>>158279381
night, thanks for coming
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>Friede's ost
music rip WHEN?
>>
>>158279395
You can, slave soldier
>>
Is 120sl good for ng+ dlc?
>>
M I N D G A M E S
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>>158279603
mydickissohardrightnow.webm
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>>158279619
>>158279619
>>158279619
bread
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>Can't do edgy stance without dlc scythe
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>>158268668
EH
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Best level for aldritch? I'm getting hits every 3-4 minutes at level 65.
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