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The DLC is shit edition next pls

>>158245624
O-ok I didn't want to start a new thread anyway

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xth for barefoot dragonfus

>>158245741
Kill all dragons

>>158245741
>footfag heretic

5th for ps4 fight clubs

Floating chaos was worth it.

>>158244235
Can confirm: until DaS3, I never went into invasions with the intention of being a dick to the host. Now I have nothing but the utmost disdain for the fuckers.
>Settlement last night
>host with high level pyro and duel Avelynn Havel faggot with exploding bolts
>the Havel also had Chaos Bed Vestiges
The Souls community is one of the worst; DaS3 brought in so many tryhard shitters it's unreal.

>>158245741
those are some gross feet

Apparently even if you have 0 poise, Perseverance can withstand a GH charged R2 (the highest poise damage attack).
So it might as well be infinite.

>>158245885

dont hate the player hate the game

They didn't try with this game, they didn't even try with the DLC.

The memes were true, it really is bland.

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r8 my fashion

is the dlc out yet??

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Cute

>>158245974
Just because it's easier to abuse the system, doesn't make new players guilty.
Every downscaled phantom deserves every point down they get

>>158246027
Horribly lit/10

Why does the empty left-hand parry use the Weapon Art now?
Is this something that came in the last patch, or am I slowpoking?

>>158245976
You're lying, right, anon?

Please be lying...

>>158246058
25th or 24th, depending on your timezone in relation to Japan.

>>158246136
It's been that way since release.

>>158246027
That helmet fits nothing, literally nothing.

fuck you assholes, you're the most unhelpful pieces of shit ever

>>158246136
It was literally always like that, you only get the parry if both hands are empty

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need to transfer a ring between characters
PS4 help

So is the DLC worth 15€ or not?
Deciding whether to buy it on Steam or what. Loved DS3 but the lack of (new) equipment and non-functioning covenants really stopped me from playing at 250 hours.

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>tfw seeing less longswords with each passing day because people starting to understand that their reign is over
>rare guide reading newfaggots with fallen knight sets and longswords are quickly taught a few lessons by superior weapon types like greatswords

>>158246297
It's more dark souls 3? If you liked how bad the main game was you'll like how bad the dlc is.

>>158242648
I invade at SL30 and win about 4/5 invasions. Some of the losses come from me just playing bad the entire time, others come from messing around and others still from getting gangbanged by fucking up one roll. I also occasionally BC out if I end up going through all my flasks and don't think I have any chance for victory.

Here's my complicated strat: be a hit and run faggot.
Pop out of nowhere with obscuring, cat, hornet or slumbering and drain enough of one player's health to force a chug. Back up into monsters, bait them into focusing you so they get hit by the monsters. Chuck firebombs, shoot exploding bolts, run away and equip 2 blessed weapons and toggle your regen ring to get back to full health without flasking, estus ring to get more out of your flasks, cat ring and make them follow you and take fall damage. Just be a massive faggot and slowly bleed the host's estus dry over 20 minutes if you have to.

>>158246297
It's worth precisely $15, not a penny more or a penny less.

People were spoiled by TOH being worth twice what it was sold for.

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Uhhhh.....

Okay then.... *crystals out*

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So what the fuck does it do? does it prevent estus recovery or not ?
also are jailers female or male ?

>>158246271
Didn't you just get helped? There can't be this many ps4 players

my vicar is done. anyone up for some bloodshade hunting? xbone

>>158246215
Northern? It goes well with leonhard's garb.

>>158246436
why the fuck does that guy only have one leg?

how the fuck are you wearing havels?

>>158246297
Second best DLC after ToH and single best dark souls DLC.
Ludwig-tier boss which alone offsets low boss count, 16 weapons all of which have some sort of unique gimmick going on for it and most of which have excellent one-stat scaling. Really comfy winter area with nice level design.
If you liked DS3 you will like it.

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I want play this shit again. The updated poise seems interesting and the DLC looks good enough for me. What's the "meta" level for PVP? Also are you going to play the DLC? New low level char, ng+, ng++...?

>>158246479
No it wasn't me

>>158246459
It reduces estus effectiveness by about 20% for something near five seconds. IT's pretty shit.

Nobody knows their gender, and I'd be concerned if anyone did.

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>>158246436

ENHANCE!

>>158246459
female

>>158246149
I finished it in about 3 hours, while playing blind, exploring and reading stuff. Think Irythill+Anor Londo, but with more twisting converging/paths. One of the bosses is a complete joke and extremely lazy. The NPC questline is garbage, the normal enemies were good enough. I was expecting more and better spells, the only unique weapons were basically all DEX.

6/10 for me

>>158246536
>are you going to play the DLC?
*how are you going to play the DLC

>>158246479
i got you senpai, we ps4 players got to look out for each other here in this shithole.

>>158246297
It's not 15 bucks worth of content but I gladly payed 15 bucks just for more dark souls 3.

You're essentially paying a premium for an area the size of Cathedral of the Deep and 1 really fucking good boss. The other boss is so bad it's not worth even counting as content, and the weapons/spells can just be CE'd in so it's not like you need to buy the DLC for them.

>>158246536
i hate these posts so much. i see them probably twice per thread

yes anon, poise is good
dlc is fine
meta level is, and has always been soul level 120
yes, we're all going to play the DLC even though 50% or more of us hate it
yes about 1/4th of us made new characters to go through the dlc blind

>>158245974
Faggot. I know players like that: their dick gets hard at the prospect of being a piece of shit unstoppable metatarsal that ganks regular players. They're scum, and the people defending them are no better.

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Does anyone want to dupe Siegbraus with me? On PS4.

>>158246264
We're not your fuckbuddies

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the more i use this pyro the more i like it
was it buffed with the last patch? i don't remember it coming up THIS fast, with a little prediction i can land it in almost any pvp situation

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>>158246534
>better than aota
are you fucking retarded?

>>158246664
any proof of that ?

>>158246704
You need the DLC for the Arena though, which is the most important new thing.

>>158246414
Fuck off drone. This was the worst DLC out of all the games.

>>158246697
>>158246271

>>158246793
they're cute

>>158246170
>>158246269
Weird, must be mixing it up. Could have sworn I took off my useless shield to parry Iudex better at one point.

>>158246792
Of course it's better than aota, aota was fucking shit outside of boss battles and those boss battles got seriously old after BB and DS3.

>>158246817
>>158246773
>>158246271


Why don't you guys all have a fight club?

>>158246817
high wall of lothric pss dsg

Anyone have item ID for champion's bones?

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>>158245847
Are there enough people who want a FC lurking about to start one up? I would host more often again if people wanted it.

is there a way to bring a boss back to life? some xXxX1337HACKERXxXx just invaded me and killed aldrich
i set the value back to 0 in the world flag boss but i still cant see white signs

>>158246339
So now instead of SS R1 spamming shitters we've got GS R1 spamming shitters.

How does this help?

>>158246887
>three people
>fight club

I would if there were five people, but just three seems like a waste. Maybe in the arena where you don't have to constantly resummon people.

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>>158246879
Found the faggot who started playing Souls with dark souls 2 or 3.

Kill yourself, its for your own good

>>158246704
>area the size of Cathedral of the Deep
Nah, it's larger.

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I'm having trouble deciding my next build, /dsg/.

I played a pyromancer through, and I want to start over. I was thinking another pyromancer, but I'm unsure. How is sorcery? I know a lot of people say it's hot garbage for PvP, but is it fun, at least? I was maybe thinking of doing a Moonlight Greatsword build, or maybe something with tha one shotel thing Leonhard has. Would a pyro running MLGS be viable for PvP, or am I better off sticking to a chaos/dark-infused Astora Straight Sword, or the Witch's Braid?

I hate that feeling on not knowing exactly what I'm looking for, it makes planning a build a nightmare.

>>158246841
why do you think they are cute ?

>>158246339
>guy trying to meme on me with the new mace HA
>run away with obscuring before he can see me, equip a SS and dress up the FK part
>abuse their still big range and wreck him as he underestimates it
>after landing the kill waste all stamina spamming r1 on his body
>legion etiquette

Roleplaying noobs is amazing, I had so many people try more dumb things when they see the FK armor

>>158246963
never mind they randomly appeared again

>>158247006
>>158246908
Oh ok. Thanks anyway. I guess there's only 3 ps4 players here.

>>158247010
Found the nostalgia baby.

>>158246264
Are you the retarded piece of shit that swaggered in with your edgy 4chinz attitude and told us to help you be the cheapest little bitch you could be? I'm glad no one helped you, get some fucking manners and try again later.

>>158246963
Use a backup save, you did one anon, right ?

>>158247027
>Casca
incoming rape

>>158246704
which boss do you consider good?

>>158247027
the only fun part about sorcery is making people think you're a ghost or playing prophunt

>>158246534
>Ludwig-tier boss
lmfao

>>158247010
i was in this general way longer than you shitstain
take those enormous nostalgia goggles and maybe you will see that reskinned darkroot garden with a linear township added to it is really not a good level and none of aota weapons can hold a candle to the majority of crowns trilogy or aoa weapons

>>158246890
omw
if you have a spare symbol of avarice or +2 covetous gold serpent ring drop them pls

>you don't get a special item for killing the Greatwolf before the Champion NPC

>>158246963
>PCuck problems

>>158247029
they're very gentle and their masks and clothes are flowy

>>158246534

>Better than Sunken King
>Better than Ivory King
>Better than Iron King

kek, look at this memehacki fag, it doesn't even surpass AotA

>>158247108
Gravetender of course. Hahah, remember chainmoms?

>>158247027
Pyromancer gets its strongest spells before even reaching Irithyll. You can enter the catacombs, then start throwing Great Chaos Fire Orbs at Wolnir 30 minutes later. Everything after that is cake.

Sorcery is fun if you like shiny blue particle effects, but that's it. You have a spell that's basically longsword R1, seventy-two different varieties of blue laser, and another spell that's a bigger version of the sword. Leonhard's sword is shit.

Use a Chaos or Dark weapon for a pyro, but have 14str/12dex if you ever plan to buy the DLC.

>>158247004
Skilless GS r1 spam is way easier to punish than pre-patch skilless longsword spam.

>>158246792
desu AotA being a godlike DLC is a huge fucking meme. It has 1 good bossfight and the area isn't spectacular.

>>158247085
>>158247143

Don't you memeborne babies have your own general or reddit where you can jerk off to eachother and hug about how you bought a ps4 for no reason at all?

you may go back already

>all of these revisionist shitters lately saying that AoTA is shit
Maybe two weeks ago you retards were praising PTDE as the perfect package.

>>158247293
It's bigger and better than any of them individually and has as much content as some of them combined so of course it's better. That's not even counting Friede who destroys any DS2 boss including Fume.

>>158247304
you'd best be joking

gravetender is a giant piece of shit

Hey, if I reload a backup save on another computer that's slightly older than my current one, will the notes I left in the world disappear when I load the backup?

>>158247293
all of those DLCs were trash though.

>>158247467
>>158247530
You're not wanted here

>>158247146
where are you

>>158247443
>meme
>reddit
feel free to leave, neo-/v/ trash

>tfw gundyr's halberd doesn't have the kick > shoulder check combo

>>158247467

Yeah sure thing kid

>>158247564
>anything ds2
>good

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>>158247316
I actually got gifted the DLC, why those stats specifically, anon? I heard there was a new pyro flame that required strength, did a new weapon get added that's good as a pyromancer too?

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>>158245624
http://www.strawpoll.me/11493224

OK I gotta know

>>158247456
Jokes on you, I always found AotA levels mediocre while finding the bosses good.

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This is what From wants you to wear now.

Looks like buyer's remorse has started to spread

>all these shitposting PCucks
can a mod pls ban them
y the fuck are they in a souls general and shitposting about souls gaems

>>158247638
Why would Xbone have a frowny face? They got to play English first and got the DLC early.

>>158247443
The thing is that bbg is unironically reddit at this point. Not even Luci can save that place.

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>>158247564
>oh no, they dare to disagree with MY opinion

>>158247638
>proxypoll
kek pcuck kill yourself we all play on ps4

go back to your CE fight clubs

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Why the fuck is EVERYBODY using the carthus curved sword now? It's ridiculous. I'm seeing it more than any other weapon by a large margin, even more than dark sword. It's weird because I barely ever saw it until a few weeks ago, except in fight club situations

>>158247467
>It's bigger
Lol, it only looks bigger because there's more flat terrain. It's about the same size.

>>158247027
Sorcerer is not fun. You can't land anything on anyone unless they aren't looking.

I mean it's sort of fun sometimes agaisnt fresh players but any decent player will almost never be hit by any thing

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>>158247621

>>158247493
I'm not joking, it's a very good reference to the old PvP builds, putting some of the more popular actions of players as part of the lore while you have to face an NPC using a weapon with an unique moveset but clotching to ancient techniques as he's aided by increasingly stronger mobs.
The soundtrack and arena for the boss fight are top-notch too and then you're awared both the boss weapon directly, something very rare and a revival of DaS's arena.

>>158247701
>starting

they've been doing this shit since bloodborne came out, they just change the game/dlc each time

anything but their wasted money is trash

>>158247681
only if you want to use heavy weapons

>>158247681
You wanted poise to matter again. Stop complaining.

>>158247727
There are presumably a smaller amount of players compared to the others.

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>>158247779
>now
It's been the meta-cancer weapon for months. you shitlord.

Why the fuck are people having pissing contests about the DLC quality already when 90% of the people here haven't played it?

>>158247456
it's not the masterpiece some think
the one thing they did great though is how well incorporated into the main game it is, that's the reason why I think it's much better than the das2 dlcs which are about some dudes I never gave a fuck about

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I like all the Souls games, Bloodborne and all the DLC for them so far.

I'm looking forward to the first DLC for 3, I tried some of the weapons and they seemed fun. I hope everyone enjoys it regardless of platform!

Looks like it's that time of the day where the general goes to utter shit

Are any tables still working?

>>158247850
Because PCucks are cancer

>>158247578
sorry i got blue summoned

>>158247739
4chan is basically Reddit. It has been for several years now.

>>158247898
they're called weekends

>>158247928
Why the fuck are you turning it into a console war, you shitposter?

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I thought we were having fun, Vincent.
Weren't we having fun?

>>158247849
I mean in normal leveling. Usually the meta weapons don't infect low levels so much, aside from dark sword. Just doing normal leveling through the game, I'm just pulling a number out of my ass here but it seemed like nearly 1/4 phantoms I summoned or people who summoned me were using the carthus memesword

>>158247739
What happened to bbg?

>>158247863
>I like all kinds of food
>including shit scraped off a dumpster

>>158247952
What the fuck does that even mean in this context? Can you actually put into words how it's Reddit or are you just a buzzword loving shitheel?

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>>158247813
That sword looks pretty cool, is it an UGS or a GS?

>>158247960
more like american prime time

damn, i want to like the mace but holy fuck is the reach atrocious, people just roll away from your shit.

>>158247863
:)

>>158248054
GS

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>>158247971
Please ignore the cuckposter.

>>158248054
It's a greatsword that's as long as a spear.

>>158248054
it's a shit

>>158248028
>i like all kinds of analogies
>even the food ones

>>158248054
a GS with UGS range

>>158248054

UGS sized GS.

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>>158248028
I hope you enjoy the DLC too, anon!

Is poise actually working now? I have 45 poise and get staggered by a single dog attack

>>158248179
Now ONLY works with ultras and a few outliers like hammers

>>158248045
The same demographic of people that post on reddit post here.

You think you're special because of you're little secret club?

4chan is just reddit with slightly more NEETs and weebs.

>>158248179
the only change to poise is that now your poise stat increases your large weapon hyperarmor

>>158248179

Poise can now enable hyper armour.

>>158248247
t. reddit

>>158248179
Need 46

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>>158248104
>>158248123
>>158248126
>>158248139
>>158248140
Well. Shit.

Is it the new Darksword, then? Will I be a faggot for using it?

>>158248247
kys

>>158248247
This is a myth reddit tries to force so they're accepted

>>158247578
tell me when you're on your other character and ill put my sign down again

>>158247971
Rule of thumb for /dsg/, newfag: don't reply to any post that contains "PCuck".
You can reply to this one if you like, though.

>>158248335
new darksword is carthus curved sword

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>>158248210
>>158248257
>>158248261
jesus christ that is so much VIT, what was from thinking

>>158248179
See image here. >>158244257

>>158248261
>>158248257
>they think poise and hyperarmor were different things

>>158248275
>I'm special because I post on 4chan with all the cool kids. Reddit is too mainstream.

You're like an image board hipster

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>>158248335
Nope, its pretty much exclusively made for Pyromancers, thematically and stat-wise. It beats out every other option out there in most regards, so you'd be a fool to not use it.

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Your mother fucking life ends 30 minutes from now

>>158248335
if you use any gimmick/ hybrid weapons you're a faggot

but then it's easier finding a non mimic chest in this game than a weapon without some special bullshit

>>158248417

If you minmax you don't have to level up VIT a lot if at all.

>>158248471
Yeah but it doesn't deal much pyro damage so I won't be using it.

>>158248471
Reminder it's a 3-way split AR, it's nowhere near how strong it seems

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>>158248335
almost nobody runs caster builds because e-celebs said that they are bad so no

>>158248370
>Accepted

Dude reddit is like a billion times more popular than 4chan. This website is going out of business in case you hadn't heard.

Who does Reddit need to be accepted by? NEET losers like you?

http://www.strawpoll.me/7283428/r

Vote now

>>158248247
You're not wrong, if all you're measuring is the average poster.

But 4chan seems to have much bigger outliers, in both directions

>>158248419
>they think poise and hyperarmor were different things

Before the update your poise could be broken, now it's true hyper armour.

>>158248535
It does dark damage though, which isnt resisted at all and the damage scales off of int and faith.
>>158248542
That may actually be a bug but if it ends up getting fixed to have the buff actually deal dark damage itll be OP as fuck. Still though, it does a very solid amount of damage and has a good amount of range and speed for something with very minimal investment for pyromancers.

>>158248491
Better wipe all the weird hentai and chubby porn from the hard drive, then.

>>158248594
I don't think this website is going out of business.

Moot runs it for free.

>>158248458
>>158248594

>shilling this hard for reddit

is this the new "do i fit in yet"?

>>158248547
They are bad.

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>>158248417
Attached image is how poise was in the previous patch.

1.08 changes poise thusly:

>attacks with active poise now have significantly less, can be interrupted in 1-2 hits with lots of poise

>however, attacks with poise now instantly refresh your own poise to 80% of full at the start of the animation, meaning it'll take 1-2 hits to interrupt your attacks every single time you attack

Long story short, poise is easier to use and you can basically R1 forever, but requires Vitality investment. 30 poise is enough to take hits from anything that isn't a great weapon. 40+ poise and a great hammer can trade hits with other great weapons.

>>158248601
Why can't you consoleshits go make your own general?

Oh wait :^)

>>158248594
By people who actually want to come to 4chan and not to sites like Reddit.
Yes, it is more popular, but people who actually care about 4chan don't accept their stupid attitude.

>>158248547
Caster Builds are bad

... for 1 v 1 duels against people who are really good (like 1% of the player base)

in every other situation casters are good and strong. Mages are going to completely dominate the team arena battles, 1 shotting people while they're attempting to attack their allies

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FC?

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Its like dancing in Runescape

>>158248594
4chan has been going out of business for the past 17 years.

>>158248634
>now it's true hyper armour
Hyperarmor is a word borrowed from the street fighter community which means fully uninterruptible, as in no number of attacks of any strength can ever stop it. The word you're looking for is super armor.

>>158248629
>4chan seems to have much bigger outliers, in both directions

Keep telling yourself that kid unless you mean in the weeb direction and in the neet direction

How to avoid looking like a scrub/newbie?

Is the FC still going? I haven't been summoned in a while

>>158247950
thanks

heard poise is no longer useless
is bkga still fun and useful

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>>158248542
even with a 3-way split it adds a good amount of damage to every r1
not even a 40STR capped flat fire defense will fully protect against it, at worst it will deal around the same amount of damage buffed as unbuffed quality greatswords
in fact, if it added 150 dark AR it would be so hilariously broken that you will miss the time of carthus curved swords and washing poles

>>158248687
>My secret club is better than yours

4chans entire existence these days is defined by hating reddit because it's cool and popular.

You're like the highschool losers forming a secret club to hate on the jocks and cheerleaders

The number of CE abusers I've run into at SL130 pontiff invasions on PC is fucking staggering.

I don't know what I expected.

>>158248901
dark sword makes you look mysterious
fallen knight armor looks really cool
grass crest shield shows that you have endless stamina
have 2-3 equally cool friends with you

>>158248979
>buff adds 60 effective damage vs the 80 that a proper elemental buff would add.
It's still shit, m8.

>>158249061
What type of CE have you encountered the most ?

>Run into a Havel Greatshield turtle that forgets bows have weapon arts

>>158248957
np

>>158248851
degenerates

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How viable is magic in dark souls 3 after all these updates since release?
kinda want to make one for the dlc tommorow

>>158249083
>everything that doesn't allow me to do 1300 damage per combo is garbage
kids these days

>>158249083
>Buff on a greatsword that only takes FIVE physical stats for pyromancers to wield and deals primarily dark damage
>As long as a UGS, as fast as a GS
It isnt made for you m8, that doesnt mean its shit

>Check DLC
>See its ready to be dowloaded
>Get hype
>Download and install it
>enter game
>Fuck around for fifteen minutes before I realise it won't activate until midnight
FUCK

>>158248809
>People who actually care about 4chan

Nobody cares about 4chan retard. It's just a site we come to kill some time.

I hate all you faggots.

>Oro uses Wikidot instead of Fextra

I thought you said he wasn't our guy?

>>158248851
>dance with dragonsis

Jelly.

>>158249241
You mean tomorrow midnight

fc where

Souls on PC was a mistake.

>>158249063
>grass crest shield
Dang, guess I'll just have to use the Chloranthy Ring instead.

>>158248901
never wear fallen knight head or chest
don't use dark sword
don't use a shield for blocking
if you get covered in leeches/worms, equip a torch to remove them. taking damage from leeches makes you look like a retard.
use a lot of gestures
use undead hunter charms on mimics
level up vigor until you have 27 MINIMUM

if I see anybody not doing any of these things, I assume they're an idiot newb until proven otherwise. A bit of an exception for undead hunter charms because some people forget to buy them

>>158249181
Pyro is still good and miracles are great late-game
Sorceries rape PvE but are trash in duels, good in invasions, but still pretty weak compared to your other options. They eat the most FP, have some bad sidearm options, and are normally too slow to even insta-kill people. You can work with them, but they still need some work.
For PvE though, they still destroy pretty hard. Probably strongest next to bleed builds.

>>158249269
Fuck off to reddit then.

Reminder that DSP beat the DLC in less than 4 hours

Reminder that you don't even get covered in Snow

Reminder to save your money

>>158249307
you mean in 21 hours

>>158249083
Anon, you can't buff a scaling elemental weapon with elemental damage in the first place, barring boss weapons with ridiculous stat requirements and scaling dependent on three different stats. This thing sits just a hair below the disgustingly overpowered line, and the only thing keeping it there is the fact that the buff isn't dark. As it is, right now it's on the upper end of viable due to silly long range, hyperarmor, high damage for its range, and very low physcial stat requirements, not to mention that it's one of maybe 2-3 weapons with inherent int/fth scaling.

>>158249341
You're an idiot. Just because you no longer look like a scrub doesn't mean you no longer are one.

>>158249307
No, counter said I only have 12 hours till it activates. Its 12pm here.

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pls, no congratulations are in order

'twas nothinn

>>158249368
Pyros are the best for PvE, since you can get the best spells before Pontiff.

>>158249419
Wasn't Scott's vod like under 2 hours?

>>158249532
Now do it without rolling.

>>158249401
Nah I like it here. You faggots are more easily triggered.

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So unintended graves. Couple questions.

Is it like an alternate timeline or something, or is the normal tower stuck in the same time, and that unintended one is the real one.

Why the time jump? Is there someone/something controlling it?

And besides the couple of items in and around the tower is there anything else left to do or just go back and continue.

>>158248952
seems like someone added you to the ban list

>>158249061
>>158249112
Not the same guy, but I've had the same experience. Two days ago I decided to hang out in Londo NG+++ for a while with seed and dried finger and way of blue. No gank squads or anything, just having some battles and scooby doo chases if I get cornered by 3 guys.

The first time, my run ended when a guy activated infinite invincibility frames and I had to run to the boss fog. The second run ended when I got instacursed when I was hiding. After 2 times in a row ruined by cheat engine I gave up on Londo

this was level 120 btw

>>158249532
What happened to the Valorheart?

I saw in the patches fist weapons got a more forwarded movement during attacks and faster attacks. Is it noticeably better?

>>158249368
invasions are my thing, getting invited to fake groups just to insult me satisfy my thirst for butthurt

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>>158249419
How do I save money I've already spent?

I'll easily get my money's worth considering how much I play these games.

>>158249112

Probably invulnerability as the most obvious, but a ton of people hacked in the DLC weapons which isn't out yet on PC.

A lot of them I suspect of hacking their stats and weapon damage in some way as well, some less subtle than others. Some infinite estus as well. Some people being impossible to parry by anyone.

It's just sad really.

>>158249575
didn't actually roll once lad

sprint away and parry

>>158249626
definitely not something you'd want to use on gundy

i'd be smacking on him for an hour

it also has extremely low AR compared to my raw broadsword but it makes killing regular enemies an absolute breeze. the jumping attack negates guardbreak, although it can put you into negative stamina for a while

>>158249659
I really hate it when websites have meme shit like that. I don't need some dumb computer to affirm my self-worth.

>>158249595
its pretty much a time thing, its the past when the world was going really dark before another lord of cinder to be links the flame again

>>158249629
It seemed like it was mostly the R1 and L1R2 doesn't chain into the next L1 anymore.

>>158249606
>>158249670
Looks like avoiding duel meta is a good idea

>>158249729
Yeah, it's stupid. I was happy with the price and didn't have any issues with their store or anything, so I didn't really mind that much.

>invade
>gank squad
>invade
>another gank squad

why do people still do this? What could they possibly gain

>>158249629
i think it's better. they fucked up and only gave the buff to the 1H moveset when in the right hand, so you can switch between the 2H and 1H if you want to compare.

the windup on the first R1 was killing it, hits a lot more now

>>158249595
If you stand at the top of the tower in normal firelink, you can see that it connects to oceiros's garden in the same area that untended graves does. If you use CE to float up to there, oceiros's garden will actually load. Untended graves exists in the same physical location that firelink shrine does, meaning it logically has to be in a different time.

Main reason you go there is to get the firekeeper eyes for one of the endings, the hornet ring, an infinite use homeward bone that can be traded for a slab, easy black knight farming, gundyr's soul, artorias's armor, and the priestess ring.

>>158249892
souls

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>>158249892
What do you want to see in the next Souls/Souls-like ARPG video game?

>Level up at bonfires
>Magic & FP are separate bars
>DaS II poise, new bar for poise
>Can be invaded while hollowed/unembered
>Can invade even if the boss is defeated
>No more invasion limit but twinks' damage get scaled down to the host's one
>Cosmetic armor slot (wear Havel's but show another set) unlocked once you beat NG+7
>Summoning signs last as long as you don't cancel it, you can leave the area or warp somewhere else and it continues to be left there
>Red Eye Orb lets you set areas you want to invade from anywhere
>Stats cost less souls to level if it's low (ie 6 -> 7 ATN costs less souls that increasing STR from 39 -> 40)
>Your summoning sign becomes universal (scaled up/down) if nobody summons you in 10 minutes. Random NPCs will summon you for bosses if you don't get summoned in 15 minutes ("Radiant" NPCs)
>More dismemberment, boss tails/hands/legs for weapons, players hands/limbs
>Covenant to "invade" as regular mobs
>Gravelord equivalent covenant
>Hotkey to toggle HUD
>Mimic bonfires, Mimic boxes, Mimic destructibles (furniture, crates, etc), Mimic doors, Mimic levers, Mimic item drops, Mimic items, Mimic that disguises itself as other enemies, Mimic NPC, Mimic summon signs, Mimic messages, Mimic bridges, Mimic buildings, Mimic Fogwalls, Mimic armor, Mimic Helmet, Mimic Weapons
>Sorcery to disguise as a Mimic Chest
>No bonfire warping until you pass the Lower Undead Burg -> Depths > Blighttown >Valley of the Drakes > Firelink Shrine equivalent.

>>158249595
Find the firekeeper eyes and buy the handmaid's stuff
It's Champion Gundyr's timeline, he fucked up and was too late so Ludleth linked the flame and let Gundyr become the Iudex of the new timeline. I think it's stuck there because of timey wimey converging bullshit leaving it around after the rest of the world reset

>>158249892
Your tears

Why does From want invaders to be so defensive? Every time I see an invader, in my world or someone else's, they're always so god damn passive. It's like they've been neutered. No one should come into someone else's world and be defensive.

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>>158249659
I don't think Dark Souls 3 has a deluxe edition, anon.

>>158250000
They're passive because they're good at pvp, and being passive is the most effective way of playing. Only bad players are aggressive.

>>158249892
Ganking I can understand. I mean, it's a scumbag thing to do but sometimes it's fun to be a dick.

Hackers on the other hand...

The other day I invaded this dude at Ponfiff who had infinite health and stamina. he was just R1 mashing his way through the mobs like a mongoloid. I mean how the fuck is that enjoyable? I'd get bored after 5 mintues.

>>158249815

idk what happened, it wasn't like this in even august. I guess the DLC just brought out the worst in people?

I shudder to think what Arena is gonna be like on PC when it finally drops tomorrow. If it winds up filled with cheaters too and From does nothing about it I'm just gonna quit altogether. I don't want to run into my cheats vs. their cheats over and over.

>>158250079
Literally look on Steam you dumb baby, it's the game+season pass.

>>158250000
this is dark souls 3, everyone (invaders and hosts/phantoms) is a giant pussy

>>158249595
This fucking lore post again?

Untended is the same timeline as all the bosses in the game, Firelink and the area surrounding it are the future/past, where the fire has been linked/can still be linked. Untended is walked to, proving it is concurrent with the rest of the game areas besides Firelink.

>>158250000
Invading was too easy for any kid. Unless you truly love invasions despite knowing you'll likely lose, you don't even touch your REO in 3, as it should be.

>>158248028
nice outlook on life

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>>158250079

>>158249892
because you're an idiot and invading in locations where people set up gank squads. Don't invade anor londo or High Wall unless you want to get gangbanged by 3 level adjusted phantoms half the time

the more obscure the location for invasions, the better.

>>158250000
>have 2 summons and a blue with me
>"lol why are you being so passive?? :DDD"

>>158249365
>equip a torch for leeches worms
Yeah I saw a message about that my first time around, I use my torch almost all the time anyway.
Thanks for the advice!

>>158248247
You sound like a tremendous faggot.

>>158250118
Why would I look on Steam when I have PS4?

>had to watch xbox and pcce play with dlc stuff
>bought the season pass yesterday to save money on the second dlc
>still have to wait two days

>>158250000
Because if I fuck up one roll against the 3+ people swinging at my face I'm probably dead.

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"When an enemy is struck with this weapon estus recovery is reduced and equip load is increased for a short period of time"

http://darksouls3.wiki.fextralife.com/Soldering+Iron
did anyone test it ?

FC WHERE

>>158250336
Please don't link fextra here.

>>158250313
Because he's obviously on PC and that is where you would see that you're retarded, there is a Deluxe Edition.

>>158250000
nice fucking quads guy

shame on all of you for not checking

>>158250158
>you'll likely lose

I win the majority of my invasions. I'd wager most decent players do as well.

It's harder than it was before but it's still manageable.

Invading is the ultimate challenge in this game. Nothing gets my heart pumping like a good invasion. If someone doesn't invade they are a casual baby in my eyes.

>>158250389
Pls host

>>158250247
I'm invading in the catacombs, library, and profaned capital, gank squads everywhere

>>158250391
Why not
Does dsg dislike fextra or something ?

>>158250336
I'm not sure if it affects equip load at all but it does reduce estus recovery by about 1/5th. Not terribly useful.

>>158250391
Get your wiki drama out of here, no one wants to see that shit.

>>158250490
Fextra gets shit wrong constantly. It's quality control is practically nonexistent.

>>158250000
Invaders have half as many estus as you, and less health than you because they don't have ember. They're automatically at a massive health disadvantage the instant they spawn

>>158250313
It's on the psn store as well though.

>>158250490
It's a trash wiki that doesn't get updated enough and has low standards
soldering iron sucks on players also

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>dlc boss is a white haired woman with paired weapons and edgy magic
Sounds familiar.

>>158250312
You can't refute it though.

Reddit and 4chan are exactly the fucking same. Stop acting as if you're a special snowflake for posting here you dumb faggot.

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>>158250098
>>158250141
>>158250158
>>158250254
Yes, but, why does From want this? Surely it can't be hard to make something that's good in a brawl like that.

Why do invaders cry about gankers so much?
You deserved to get ganked because you're disrupting someone's playthrough, my only problem is dropping souls when you die in their world.

How did you learn about the game's story and lore? Did you read/watch it anywhere or just by playing the games?

>>158249939
A game that does something that isn't 'hallways connecting boss rooms' design. I'm not saying turn the shit into an ubisoft game, but a more freeform design along the lines of a TES game but just ignore all that talk to people to get quests shit. Obviously keep things simple with what the objectives of the game are, but let the player explore and do things as interests them. Basically, there should still be a core of the game with an 'end boss' but more side areas and bosses to explore and fight.

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>>158248491
You were no match, KID....

>>158250482
SL?

>>158250605
Subscribe to VaatiVidya, the foremost expert on Soulsborne lore.
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>>158250559

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>finally get a gladius
>it's paired with a shield
>the R1s start as a vertical slash then you just spin around retardedly
Can't win with FromSoft.

>>158249939
lol

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I never knew that Smouldering Lake is so good location for invasions. 50-60SL, equip some dickass dagger +6, greatbow and pew pew. And how powerful hypermode greatbow? Worth it?

>>158250482
those are three of the most popular locations to invade, aside from profane capital. More popular for invaders = more gank squads. Even profane capital is rogue because it's in the same invasion "zone" as the dungeon, which is popular for invasions.

Try some lower level areas, like Cathedral of the deep or optional areas like Consumed King's Garden.

You'll always run into a gank squad sometimes but that's just the way it is. Black crystal if you can't deal with it.

>>158250560
The difference is here I can inform you of the fact you sound like a tremendous faggot and there's not moderator or downvotes that can save you from it. You tremendous faggot.

>>158250559
>could have gotten a cool manus-like boss fight with Father Ariandel
>instead get another edgy artorias/gehrman/maria/dudeinarmor boss fight
I think this is what disappoints me the most about the DLC. Oh, and the fact that half the fight against the Gravetenders is against a shitty NPC, when they could have just made the greatwolf itself (who's fun to fight) have more hp and a larger moveset.

>>158250729
>no one spoilers shit

this general is fucking trash.

>>158250818
>not reading filenames

>>158250559
>edgy magic
Everything is edgy now. Even your post

>>158250603
Why does your mother cry so much when I fuck her in the ass? She deserves it because she's a dirty whore who needed the money and secretly likes it.

>>158250603
There's getting ganked and there's getting ganked by 3 phantoms that are several times your level who each spam ~800 FP worth of spells that take off most of your health off.

As a side note, I don't mind seed that much overall, but it's really hard to play around in some areas.

god i cannot fucking get over how fucking broken drang twinhammers are with poise

ugh my dick is rock fucking hard right now

>>158250525
The shit it gets wrong is due to incompetent editors such as one-off anons adding hearsay, same as any wiki. "Quality control" on any wiki consists of other editors going through and correcting obviously erroneous bullshit. Wikidot's quality control is actually due to the lower number of users.

>>158250542
>doesn't get updated enough
That's the opposite of true. It gets updated too often, which is where the problems come from.

What is the best weapon in DS1?

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>Standard bows, curved greatswords, great hammers and pikes are still the worst weapon classes in the game

>>158250919
99 dex chaos blade + 10 humanity

has like 550 AR or some shit

>>158250851
or you could fucking spoiler.

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What would you say are the DaS3 equivalents of DaS1 poise breakpoints?

For example:
32 poises through small two handed weapons in DaS = 7.69 poise GS poises through small two handed weapons in DaS3
53 allowed you to tank some medium sized weapons in DaS = 35.38 allows you to tank some medium weapons in DaS3 (especially two handed maces with GS)
61 poise made you a tank in DaS = 44.84 poise in DaS3 allows you to tank GS with UGS

>>158250871
>drang twinhammers are with poise
Nothing special

>>158250757
You're not going to 1 shot kill somebody with a hypermode greatbow, so it's comepletely worthless. They'll just estus and you'll never hit them again because roll spam.

Best tactics for greatbow is the vanishing ring and leo ring and just slowly wear them down

>>158250569
Probably because co-oping casuals whined about getting killed by invaders.

To be fair, it was ridiculously easy to make a twink and grief the hell out of people in DaS1.

>>158250603
A gank squad isn't trying to play through the game. Their sole aim is to gank invaders.

>>158250943
catching scrubs with exile greatsword is always fun

>>158251035
There are no "equivalents" when how much poise you need depends on the weapon and attack you're using.

>>158250997
wasn't me senpai

>maybe I shouldn't click literally every picture and video in the thread like a sperg in the future, if I'm trying to avoid spoilers?
no it's definitely other people that are retarded

Dark Souls 3: No fun allowed edition

>>158250871
I thought they didn't have HA?

>>158251035
Greathammers: 22.27/37.78

UGS&GA 31.4/45.06

The first number is how much you need to withstand a 2HR1 from a greatsword at full poisehealth. The second number is the amount needed to withstand the same attack at minimum poisehealth. Anything smaller than a UGS can't practically stack enough poise to resist a greatsword

>>158250807
pump a rum

did the update fuck up the Collector's Edition tables?

>>158250919
My favorites are moonlight and lifehunt it's a shame from fucked both of them up in das3.

>>158251065
Well, you invade to have fun at the expense of others. Gankers gank to have fun at expense of others.
They're no different from each other, only duels are things both people are likely to enjoy if they're into it

>>158251315
It ALWAYS does.
Ask on the CE website instead of here.

>>158247385
>AotA
>One good Boss fight
So which one was it? Manus, Artorias or kalameet?

From what I'm hearing of the dlc, its barely 2 hours of content. Thats pretty sad even compared to 2's dlc. They weren't even trying.

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>>158250603
because they limited the amount of estus phantoms and spirits could use. which wouldnt be an issue if it wasnt for the fact that invaders are FORCED to have their invasions prioritize worlds with phantoms.
hows that nigger.

>>158251268
By "minimum" do you mean the 80% thing or what?

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>>158251065
I think he was pointing out that it's hypocritical of invaders, people who are trying to ruin somebodies day, are upset about gankers, which are pretty much the exact same thing.

>>158250784
I disagree. The most popular ganking locations are the Forest and the Pontiff due to the fact that you get covenant summons as well as reds invading.

>>158250482
You need to realise that not every host with phantoms is a dedicated gank squad. Some of them are just playing through the game with their friends or randoms.

>>158251242
The first part of the weapon art does.

>>158251356
Average good player gets 4 hours of gameplay when thoroughly exploring. Your time might be faster depending on how far over SL80/NG you are.

>>158250807
Why did this get posted

>>158250603
You deserve to not have anyone to play with. If they want to interact with other players, they don't ember. If their fear of invasion is so strong that even with phantoms at their side they still don't want to be intruded, they shouldn't be able to summon. They choose to include other players in their game, why am I wrong for being included? They asked for it. The embering is my invitation. The door's open, and in I come, an invited, distinguished guest, just like the sunbro and Darkmoon. It's part of the game, not some criminal act. If it's something that should be punished, no one should do it.

It's their privilege to get invaded.

>>158250560
>Stop acting as if you're a special snowflake for posting here

You're the only one presuming anyone thinks they're special for posting here. Where your retardation sets in is that you think similarities in userbases equate to similarities in forums and conduct.

It's a long known conclusion of human behavior that you're not the same person at church as you are at the bar. The people you surround yourself with and the acceptable social tenets of places you're in encourage you to act differently.

Saying "Reddit and 4chan are the same" because some people use both is like saying a movie theater and a nightclub are the same because you know a lot of the same people go to both. You're going to have wildly different experiences at both locations.

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>there are people calling themselves Souls fans that have never experienced the highest quality of Souls content From has ever produced in this thread RIGHT NOW

>>158251402
Yes.
If you have the first value, you'll only resist a greatsword after a poise reset
If you have the second, you'll always resist it.

>>158251480
He might've gotten lost from /mlp/.

>>158251609
>implying bloodborne's quality had anything to do with from

Anyone come up with some REALLY creative valorheart + offhand combos?

I was thinking about using the twinspears

>>158251330
>>158251404
Speaking as someone who has invded primarily in these games since DeS, I can assure you that my goal is not to grief the host or have fun at his expense.

If I wanted to do that I would just use a CE.

A good invasion should be fun for all parties involved. At least I would like to think that the people I invaded had fun fighting me, whether win or lose.

>>158251438
>You need to realise that not every host with phantoms is a dedicated gank squad.
Anon. Catacombs, Dungeon, Irithyll, Archives filled with real gank squads. Don't be gank squad apologist, because I gank in those locations myself

is this the CE support thread? how do I edit my stats post patch

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>>158250807
>me trying to think of why you posted

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Ser Siegmunde lives again!

R8 fashion

>>158249939
>Sorcery to disguise as a Mimic Chest
This was dummied out of DaS2.

>>158251721
>Don't be gank squad apologist
>I gank

k

>>158251626
Man those are steep amounts for an invader I'm trying to keep fairly low. GH is manageable but 45.6 is rough.

>>158251679
>paired weapon + offhand
Literally what are you doing? Paired weapons without the paired movesets are just weaker versions of their base weapon types. Example: Crow Quills has the same crit modifier as the normal Rapier.

>>158251609
>LHB

Ez mode

>>158251438
the forest covenant doesn't work so it's not that popular.

But yeah Anor Londo is by a wide margin the most popular PvP place, but you're pretty much garunteed to run into a gank squad half the time

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>>158251609
>tfw the chorus kicks in and he shoots moonlight beams at you in time with it

>your name is a knight NPC in the DLC

Feels good, but is Vilhelm's armor cool?

>>158250856
>lighting her own blood on fire isn't edgy
>abyssal black fire isn't edgy