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We don't have an official steam or discord group. If anyone posts in the thread about any "official" or not steam or discord groups, promising MP or not, be sure it's a shitposter group known for organizing raids and shitposting in the thread. They are known for false-flagging.
Report and ignore it.

How fares your empire, /gsg/?

This day in history, October 23rd:
1086 – At the Battle of Sagrajas, the army of Yusuf ibn Tashfin defeats the forces of Castilian King Alfonso VI.
1812 – Claude François de Malet, a French general, begins a conspiracy to overthrow Napoleon Bonaparte, claiming that the Emperor died in Russia and that he is now the commandant of Paris.
1870 – Franco-Prussian War: The Siege of Metz concludes with a decisive Prussian victory.
1911 – First use of aircraft in war: Italo-Turkish War: An Italian pilot takes off from Libya to observe Turkish army lines.
1917 – Lenin calls for the October Revolution.
1939 – The Japanese Mitsubishi G4M twin-engine "Betty" Bomber makes its maiden flight.


>News
EU4 Rights of Man and patch released. Search 4chan's archive with archivebro's trip for links.

>Random Country Picker
http://randomcountry.gbasood.net/

# Archive (mods only)
https://mega.nz/#F!IkNwBRKR!WI_JYByFpRFzXLx3d1uD2A

#Where to get these games
http://hastebin.com/raw/moqugasume

# Mods
>> READ THIS FIRST.
http://pastebin.com/cCdcev76

>>[HoI4] - More Music Mod
https://mega.nz/#F!v5wXURpJ!TvoBinBVQWJbaYJsluyoFA

>>[HoI4] - Après Moi, Le Déluge
http://www.moddb.com/mods/apres-moi-le-deluge

>>[CK2] - Anon Music Mod
https://mega.nz/#!TVA2RByJ!tuh0k4SR5gXPLtmxsMd4KZ0at9gY5s5_oV70ui8A4B0

>>[EU4] - Expensive Warfare Mod 1.0
http://pastebin.com/gThqFi54

>>[CK2] - After The End
https://github.com/notalbanian/postapoc

>>[V2] - Historical Project Mod 0.3.6 - 15/09/2016
http://pastebin.com/66gpxbKk

>>[V2] - Napoleon's Legacy v0.3.1.7
http://pastebin.com/sN1g69sr

>>[V2] Alternative Flag Pack V8
http://pastebin.com/PRQH8vcV

Old Thread >>158091351
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Reminder to report and ignore shitposting.
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>>158195020
Based
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Any word of what the new CK2 dlc will be about?
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>>158195115
Still a secret.
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So is the new dlc worth it?
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The formally number 4 power Russia is seeking PU independence from number 6 power Commonwealth with the help of number 1 power, kebab.

I've truly hit rock bottom.

Also having to spend hundreds of military power to boost legitimacy (calling independence puts an 18 year old on the throne with 20) is aids.
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>>158195179
TRD is good but RoM, not so much
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R8 and guess what nation.
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>>158195252
>kebab
t. Reddit
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>>158195252
I remember as andalusia France guareented me.
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>>158195292
UK?
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>>158195292
Fucking horrible border gore/10
Muscovy
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Getting real tired of missions actually having a pretty rough failure penalty
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>>158195361
No
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>denmark and the papal state declares war on the HRE to de-throne the antipope
>right after a danish civil war pops up
>instead of dealing with their own rebels denmark dedicates their entire army to sieging my holdings despite the king of denmark being my own fucking uncle
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>>158195413
In eu4?
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>>158195404
Bingo

>>158195426
I still think the AI has a bias against the player
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>>158195465
Yes.
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welp,it seems that Arya shares my same fetish.
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>>158195292
medri bahri
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>>158195530
>those bars
Your game is fucked
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>>158195531
>playing as niggers
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>>158195581
>not being able to roleplay
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Fuck this is awful
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>>158195706
Wu lad
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>>158195706
>That fucking Mongolia.
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>Hoi4 dlc
>its literally front commands
Wow
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>>158195706
vassalize yarkand and feed them northern china to funnel shekels into Samarkand
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>>158195426
>>158195526
In the end he got to eat a dick, I hired some mercs and beat him back and then conquered Holstein from the rebels, leaving me the owner of all four provinces in the duchy.
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Oh wow I didn't realise I stand to gain like 20 core territories when declaring "independence"

I guess 5 years of being in a humiliating PU wasn't so bad after all.
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>>158195020
>R&I got cucked again and he doesn't even know it
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>>158195971
Don't you have more land than denmark now?
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>>158195982
What states?
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>>158195982
invest your mana
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>>158196073
Nope, we're both at 4 demense and Denmark proper is at 8 provinces. My uncle, the king of Denmark passed away (RIP) leaving my little brat cousin on the throne. I've still plenty of money to fight a war, but I'm not sure if I want to rise to king so early and I'd have to bother dealing with more vassals.
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>>158196204
It wouldn't be many vassals and you'd be the most powerful in the kingdom anyway
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>>158196128
Yeah I've already switched NF to Admin

Having 2 Admin ideas as blobby Muscovy-Russia has been really annoying, mana wise.
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>>158196242
Yeah, now that I think about it it'd be pretty nice. Denmark has surprisingly good provinces too, lots of counties with 5-6 holdings, making them better than mainland Germany. With a good wife and high centralization laws I could probably reach a demense of around 8 (not using gavelkind) which would enable me to hold all the best provinces.
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>>158196249
>2 admin ideas as an expansionist country
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>>158196303
You probably can exist without even creating a duchy.
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>>158195982
???
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>>158196443
What do you mean? Most (if not all) of them already exist so I'd have to destroy them. Other than decentralizing power and restricting the amount of people who can vote, what are the benefits of this? Counts don't generate tech points so most of my kingdom would lag behind in the long run.
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>just minding my buisness and killing Germans
>suddenly become Emperor
Atlast my hard work acknowledged
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>>158196437
Religion for converting all the muzzies and heretics
Expansion for colonising Siberia

I thought I could carefully juggle it. Apparently not.
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>>158196554
But they all hate you
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>>158196554
>tfw you gain emperor with 2 votes when all the other retards can't make up their minds
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>>158196657
Not anymore
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>>158196538
Well, less powerful vassals if you don't go over the vassal limit.
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Why can't i ask others to support my independence? The button is not even there.
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>>158196718
I'm only at 3/25 at the moment, I doubt it'll ever be an issue. I only need to usurp another duchy so I can easily dominate all the heir votes.
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I just love when these world wars happen
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>>158196818
Don't you need 50% liberty desire?
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>>158196903
Ah that might be it.
Okay, another question: How do i get liberty desire?
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>>158196818
Liberty desire? Looks like it's only 4.

It's the thing next to legitimacy crown
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P-Prime breeding material, eh?
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>>158196963
Who are you even a vassal to?

You gain liberty desire from negative relations, rivalry, being ahead in tech, trust, overlord warexhaustion and having high development (100 and 300 thresholds)
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>>158197130
Also having similar or bigger sized army

Though as a tiny subject that's probably hard to do
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>>158195572
I mistakingly loaded both the AGoT and the Lux Invicta mods at the same time, but it worked just fine.
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>>158197130
I am in PU with Aragon because random shit

What irritates me the most is that my relative power to them is supposedly 18%. Eighteen fucking percent. I have 30 higher development, 1k higher manpower, 2 ducates higher income, fucking vassal, and they consider me only 18% as strong as Aragon.

Its fucking retarded, i get into PU because of completely randomly based events, and apparently i can't do anything to get out now. (France had Aragon fully sieged last war and i still didn't have 50% liberty desire) Its like completely fucking random game over.
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>>158197336
>>158197130
Oh yes army is obviously one of the most important, completely forgot about that.

>>158197396
That's because you have no fucking army mate. Build some troops, demolish those forts invest that 4000!!! gold into shit and badabim badabum you are independent.

Also hover over the thing for the tooltip.
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why is japan the most fun nation in both hoi3 and vic2?
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>>158197489
Not to be a bitch, but i genuinely don't think there is a way out

All the provinces have full building slots already. And if i wanted to get to 50% liberty desire, i would have to build 70-80k more troops (if my math is right, and unless the "relative power" increases exponenticaly).
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>>158197396
Also, you can't ask for help whilst at truce with your overlord. It's 5 years from when you first joined the PU.

In the meantime, friend their enemies, piss them off, dump spies in their territory with covert action (getting caught will lower relations), break up royal ties will REALLY piss them off but will drop stability by 1.
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>>158197815
Also change your attitude to hostile towards overlord nation - and friendly to all their enemies
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>>158197785
Nah you are just retarded. How much is your force limit?
Build up to that

Then demolish what ever shit you have build and build some force limit buildings with your massive amount of money and build up to force limit again.

It's exactly being a bitch that has put you into this spot in the first place.
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>Hgary
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Glad we can all agree on this.
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>>158198112
h*ngry
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What are the best game rules for a non-meme game?
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>>158197881
In both army and navy i am over my force limit already.
There are no force limit buildings in my time yet. I am about 100 years from getting to the first one.

Also you are a massive faggot and your advices are shit.

>>158197815
>>158197876
Spies are a good idea, nothing else i can do from what you listed, already have maxed improved relationship with all their enemies, we don't have royal marriage and i have vanilla version of the game.
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>>158198236
t. shitter
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>>158198174
>Tunisia not lightly western
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>>158198174
>bosnia
>israel
>latin american shitholes
>japan&korea
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>>158198234
Use dice rolls before making a decision on anything.
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how the fuck is stellaris a top seller

its dogshit
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>>158198338
>western = rich countries that aren't oficially Jewish
ebin

>>158198335
I was actually thinking about making them light green, but it'd look odd with Algeria entirely not western as well.
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>>158198304
You should just admit my situation is a dead end instead of pretending you would get out of it.
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>>158198523
LMAO
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>playing game as Austria
>ruler dies when heir is 2
>one year later regent dies
>two months later event fires and ends PU over Bohemia
>religious war hasn't happened because Catholic league is a lot larger than protestant one though the state of religious war hasn't ended
>regency finally ends but can't restore union over Bohemia without going to war against the entire protestant leage by myself
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>>158195252
>cropping
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>>158198174
>Mexico, Dominican republic or Colombia more western than Serbia or South Africa
Here is how it should be
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>>158198796
>Greenland is entirely western
>Kazakhstan, Armenia and Azerbaijan aren't western at all
>implying there's any culltural difference between Cuba, the Dominican Republic, Colombia and Venezuela
>implying there's any cultural difference between Argentina and Uruguay
>Japan and South Korea
well meme'd
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Is NWO 1.10 any good? I stuck to 1.07 because 1.08 shit the bed with adding so many fucking regions, have they reverted those changes or made significant improvements since 1.07?
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>>158198927
No.
Pls upload 1.07
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>>158198927
Nice industrial score.
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>>158199016
It's about a gig but so it might be a while but I'm zipping it atm
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>>158195014
Hello guys, after enjoying EU4 from pirated versions for a long time, I have decided to buy the game and all its content(or most of it I think). However, I'm not sure if I'm missing some content. Is there anything missing in this list?
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Alright lads, I'm back to play paradox games again. Bet you lot have missed me. Gonna play ck2.
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>>158199709
play prussia
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>>158199639
You only really need the DLC's check the wiki to make sure you have all of them. If you want some of the cosmetics pick up the ones you are likely to play.
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Goals?
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>>158199639
>buying music packs and ebooks

I get wanting the sprites, but music and ebooks? Come on
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>>158198174
fix it 4u
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>>158199016
here you go https://mega.nz/#fm/0FgBUDjA
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>>158199803
Conquer all of those states before the scrmable begins
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>>158199923
Based
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>>158199786
I want all the flavor and the graphical units and so on. For some reason it gives me more pleasure to play when I have those.

>>158199860
I won't buy the e-book, maybe not all of the music either. This list is what's listed on Steam, and I will go through it to see if there is anything I don't want. But I'm just not sure if it has listed everything. I would not want to miss any unit packs for example.
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>>158199993
Hey what ever floats your boat just make sure you got all the content DLC
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>>158199985
No problem mate, happy blobbing
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>>158200262
Are you sure that the link works?
Did you upload that yourself? Becouse if yes, you forgot to copy the encription key too
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>goes fascist as japan once
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>>158200182
Yes I know. Those are not a problem. I know the DLCs, I'm just a bit at a loss when it comes to all those cosmetics and flavors. Does the wiki list all of them, so that I can use it as a check list?

Fuck Paradox/steam for not having one package with all of this included. This is why I pirated for so long, because the game had been out for two years already, and it had so much content I didn't want to go through. I just pirated and got everything.

Will I have to install everything one at a time too?
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>>158200342
I zipped and uploaded it myself, yeah. There's an encryption key?
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>>158200418
Yea, it should look like this
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>>158200370

There's no "installing" DLC when you download it from steam and yes wiki probably lists all DLC
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>>158200509
I don't have a registered account, it's from a temporary session. I'm clicking around but I can't find anything that resembles the stuff in your screenshot.

>filename
oy
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>>158200545
They will just be included to the game when I download them, directly just like that?
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>>158200639
Take a screenshot, usually when you upload a file you have the option to update the link
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>>158200737
This is what it looks like, I didn't get any popups or whatever when I uploaded it.
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>>158200657
people don't pirate because it's easier mang
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>>158200737
>>158200832
Right click>get link tells me I need to be a registered user
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How do play byzantium into rome with all the DLC enabled? Should I disable any to make it easier?
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>>158199886
t. one drop rule
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>>158200909
Too bad, must be that they changed it so that only registered users can renew links
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>>158201031
https://mega.nz/#!IAxxgKQY!KY7bZJndvWdlUF_LqYipw_oYW_S5p322qnGtesYRhwk

try this
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>>158201068
Works now, thanks lad.
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>>158201068
That one works, thanks anon
Also, you can find logins on bugmenot.com for sites that need you to register
http://bugmenot.com/view/mega.nz
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>>158201136
>>158201137
Niemas problemas. Should I keep going on my disgusting India blob save or start a new China save? I want to reach a gross amount of pops and industry.
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Whats the Victoria 2 soundtrack format
.ogg?
i cant check in my game folder becouse i deleted the soundtrack a while ago
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Ok. What about the music? What happens if I don't buy any of these music packs? I don't even know what's default EU4 music and what's part of these packs.

And what's Anathology of Alternate History?
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>>158201632
Music is mp3, sfx are .wav
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>>158201745
You can probably listen to the themes in youtube and see how they are like
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>>158201753
Thanks
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Jesus christ Commonwealth just will not run out of manpower
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Anyone of you know if they managed to fix the bugs with (EU4) 1.18.3, or if I have to wait till another hotfix before I start playing it?
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herro /gsg/,

thoughts on making history series as a grand strategy game?

should I buy it?
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>>158201187
What about an Afrikaner African Union?
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Smolensk are good candidate for march due to their strong national ideas, right?
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Should I keep blobbing and get myself an African Russia or should I just stop while my accepted pops are still the majority?
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Can someone explain to me something about trade in EU4, please?
I only send light ships to protect trade in trade nodes where I have merchants in, both the ones where I steer trade, and the ones where I collect from trade.
Is that the right course of action? Or am I supposed to put light ships in other, adjacent trade nodes?
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What happens if your allies declare war on one another in EU4? Did they stop you having to pick a side now? I remember that being quite annoying in Eu3
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>>158202502
There is no rule of thumb for that as it always depends on multiple factors what strategy is the correct one.

The aim is to maximize the collection and you do that by maximizing your power in the collecting node and by maximizing the incoming trade to that node.

The less total power a trade node has the more each individual ship will matter so typically you want to spread them out at least a little bit especially when you already control a large% of the total in one particular node.

Look for places where the trade "leaks" by either getting collected by someone in the node or steered away from the node and try to plug those leaks as much as it's sensible to do. Nodes where you collect or right downstream from collecting nodes, nodes where you have low trade power %, nodes that are valuable and nodes where the total trade power is low are the ones you want to look for first.

Feel free to post trade map mode image if you want more help.
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So why is religion associated with Learning and technology, in CK2? That makes zero sense...
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How can I diploannex a vassal of a different religion in EU3(Three)? Should I have force-converted religion when I vassalized? Do I have no choice now but to declare war/wait till he declares war of independence?
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>>158202318
I've done a Nigeriia playthrough, never tried SA though.

>>158202958
If they're of a different religion then you can't diploannex.
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>>158202940
>Not posting the correct version
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>>158202940
Religion itself stifles ideas but organized religion also offered the best avenues intellectual practices because professions associated with religion were almost the only ones which had a lot of money and spare time associated with them combined with opportunities to learn to read and write in multiple languages
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HOLY FUCK

GUARDIAN OF OUR SKINES
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>>158202872
I have three merchants, one collecting in Bordeaux, one collecting in Champagne, and one collecting in Genoa. My light ship navy is all protecting trade in Genoa.
If I were to divert some of those ships to English Channel, Seville, and Tunis trade nodes, would it have a positive effect on my trade? Or does that only work if you have merchants in those trade nodes?
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Back to the story the story of doom
for poor tiny serbia's about to go boom
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>>158202448
Africablob
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>>158203016
>If they're of a different religion then you can't diploannex.

Aw man. Thanks, Anon.
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>>158203584
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qUFQuvlISpw

posted the correct version 4U
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>>158203568
bring up the trade screen and hover your mouse over the plus/minus/arrow marks
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>>158201017
pls respond
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>>158203772
Don't be shit, fabricate claims on Christians, Deus Vult the rest.
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Did we ever select a team for the /vg/ soccer league 7?
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>>158203691
annex TAG
in the console and then just give yourself as much infamy as the annexation would have resulted in
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>>158203568
So first of all if you collect in a province that is not your trade capital you will get hit by a big malus in your power making it worth it only in special circumstances.
Ideally you should have your trade capital in either one of the end nodes (channel, genoa and venice) or a node as close to them but where you have significant power.

Since you are France you either want to have Champagne act as your trading capital or move it to Channel or Genoa. In this case I think it would make a lot of sense to move the main trading port to Genoa, which eliminates the malus there allowing you to collect much more of the trade value that is getting sent there. Additionally you should instead of collecting steer the trade to where ever you are collecting, in this case for example it makes no sense to collect from both champagne and bordeaux.

If you want to you can save your game and experiment with different set ups either trying to steer as much to Champagne, Channel or Genoa but my bet is that Genoa would be your best choice seeing as you have pretty significant share of the power there already even with the malus that comes from collecting outside of your trade capital.

I would consider moving the trade cap to Genoa, switching the merchant in Champagne to steer to Genoa and collecting in Bordeaux since if you steer from there towards Champagne the brits will steal most of the value before it reaches Genoa.
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Would you die for willy?
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>>158203717
So if I understand this correctly, since Bordeaux trade node is poor and English Channel trade node is rich, what I should do is move the merchant from Bordeaux to English Channel and also send my trade fleet there to strengthen my trade in the region?
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>>158204373
you also might wanna zoom in a bit to show which directions the trade is flowing between the important nodes.
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What happened to großAlexanderiumGreciums
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>>158204490
probably having a mid day neet nap desu
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>>158204373
>>158204273
You definitely also want to embargo your rivals (which I presume is England and Spain) this will also improve your income quite significantly
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So is /gsg/ full of dropout NEETs?
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>>158203975
Okay, then, how do I start as byzantium? That's the real issue here. What should my first 10 years look like?
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>>158204703
type into google
"byzantium eu4 guide"
about 5 guides should pop you mongoloid
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>Schleswigian Schleswig
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>>158204889
>that sexy flag
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>>158204889
Are you a new player?
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>>158204889
>5 Poland's
fucking amazing meme HPM
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>>158204682
Well I am thats for sure
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>>158204804
Not for the current patch with all DLC, that's where I'm having problems.
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>>158204972
n-no
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gsgs are boring and i have nothing to do
what do i do gsg
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>>158205296
Play stellaris
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>>158204473
This means I'm losing money since trade is going from Champagne to English Channel? Is there anything I can do about it? If I embargo England, would it reduce the trade in that region?
>>158204659
Spain is my ally but I'll embargo England as soon as my truce with them ends.
>>158204273
Oh, right. Trade capitals. I knew they were a thing but I never bothered to research them. That's good to know, thanks. I'll do that as soon as I get enough bird mana for it. If I keep collecting trade in Genoa, steer trade in Champagne, what do I do with my third merchant? Move him to collect trade in English Channel?
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>>158205341
paradox games are shit lad
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>>158205420
>would it reduce...
Yeah it would. That being said it might be smarter just to put your trade capital in England anyway because that's going to be one of the richest nodes no matter what you do
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>>158202448
lots of Youbra in Dahomey
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>>158204889
>1932
>1.62M
>7/11
>190
>14
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>>158205420
You don't have to research trade capital. You are thinking of trade buildings which of course help with the trade power (build them in all of the provinces with bonuses like those centers of trade)

A trade capital is a button on the top of the province window next to "make this province your capital" go to Genoa and click it there. This will eliminate the malus you are currently getting in that node which you can see if you click it and hover over the modifiers.

With the third merchant you probably want to keep him in Bordeaux, you have good trade power there and you can collect large chunk of the trade that comes. If you move him to english channel even though the pie is bigger there you get a smaller slice. You can try to place him to the channel and see how it works out for you though, you can always just send him back if he makes less money.

And yes currently most of the value in champagne is moving towards the lowlands and bit towards Genoa. To get more money yourself you just need to increase your own power (buildings, ships, ideas and capturing provinces) or decrease theirs (privateering, embargoes, spies and capturing provinces)
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Evangelical Majors Unit Pack 11 Oct 2016

"Adds 8 new unit models for France France, Prussia Prussia and Sweden Sweden."

http://store.steampowered.com/app/539260/

Is it just me, or did nothing change for these units? I still have generic units for prussia and sweden
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R&I can you make a new thread for /civ4xg/? they're beefing it

Thanks

>>158183795
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>>158205796
>that pop map
MEIN PENIS
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>>158204682
Maybe not a good time to ask this on a Sunday
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>>158205796
damn, thats impressive. 4 genocides kind of destroyed my population. How did you play past 1936?
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>>158205479
Holland is the trade capital for English Channel trade node, right? Brabant has been my ally for most of the game, but they recently broke our alliance after losing a war with England. They have no major allies and my truce with them ends in three years. If English Channel trade node becomes one of the strongest trade nodes in-game, does that mean I should try to conquer them? If I conquer Holland and other coastal regions from them, my trade in the node is going to be much stronger, right?

>>158205827
Oh sorry, you misunderstood me. When I say research, I meant that I didn't look it up myself to see what it is and what it does, not that I didn't "unlock" it in-game.

For now I'll keep him in Bordeaux and once I get a larger piece of English Channel trade node provinces I'll move a merchant there.
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>>158206049
This will make you even harder.

>>158206153
>4 genocides kind of destroyed my population
>needing genocides when you can simply outnumber the blacks 4 to 1 by bringing in white European immigrants

>How did you play past 1936?
I changed the end date in the defines. I actually set it to Jan 1st 1945, but I decided to call it at 1939.
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>>158206280
One more thing: I have Calais as my core. If I start building spy power in Brabant, will I be able to fabricate a claim on Holland? Both Calais and Brabant are in the Coast of Holland sea province so that counts as bordering, right?
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>>158205796
>>158206049
>>158206153
He either cheated or played with napoopan you faggots. He posts his pathetic game here every time anyone posts a South Africa game and runs away when confronted.
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>>158206280
What's with the brightness? It seems off in the screenshot.
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>>158195014
>>158195014
Where can I get the new reapers due DLC?
It's not in the MEGA folder.
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>>158206280
That's still not what trade capital means.

Every country has a trade capital and it's by default the same node as their capital.

>>158204373
In this screen shot you can see it as that crate on top of Champagne node.


But yes Holland is the most important province in that node because it has the double modifiers so capturing it is about the same as capturing several others in terms of trade power which you can see in the lower left cornet (64.9!!)

English channel is the most valuable trade node because France, England and Spain will tend to pump the resources of Asia around Africa and the New world straight to it. As a player you can just direct it to other nodes if you wish though.
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>>158206435
>He either cheated or played with napoopan you faggots.
wew

>He posts his pathetic game here every time anyone posts a South Africa game and runs away when confronted.
I've only posted the game a couple of times before.

>pathetic game
rood
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It's amazing how people still believe a South Africa game that ends up with 16.75m Boers is legit.
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>>158195014
can you play any grand strats with gameranger?
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>>158206435
Calm down R&I, you lifeless piece of shit
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>>158206573
This.
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Yo which Diplomacy Idea is better for Russia? Ideas or Diplomatic? I think I might be feeding Smolensk a bit into Lithuania territory with the intention of picking up Yarkand as I go deep into the East which I why the Idea bonuses appeal a bit.
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>>158206435
>>158206573
>>158206645
The Report and Ignore squad is out in force today, it seems.
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>>158206519
>That's still not what trade capital means.
Sorry, I meant to say center of trade.
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>>158206729
there are several centers of trade, you can see them in the trade map mode.
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>>158206708
/gsg/ is our domain faggot

steamcord will be eliminated

-signed: R&I, big_benis, meneth, HPM
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Ok, guys. I finally bought and downloaded EU4. However, it says it's still 1.18.0 instead of 1.18.3 - how do I update this?
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>>158206797
uninstall.exe
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>>158206784
>steamcord will be eliminated
Have you ever thought that maybe you are just as bad as, if not worse than, them?

t. anon who just wants to see the occasional AAR or interesting post and doesn't give a shit about steamcord/R&I drama
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>>158206621
>>158206708
>waaah stop pointing out my obvious cheating
lmao get a life nerd
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>>158206898
We may appear worse, but it is because we must make sacrifices in our fight against the shitposters. The end justifies the means, and once we succeed in creating a shitposter free /gsg/, you'll all see that it was worth it.
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>>158207029
t. underage fag from the reed discord
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>>158207102
nice try cobra, now piss off back to school
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>>158207029
>>158207102
>>158207165
>>158206898

how do people make posts like this and not want to kill themselves immediately. Even as Ironic shitposting, its fucking depressing
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How the FUCK do I stop Germany from just randomly declaring war on me?

I signed all pacts and treaties with them, took the "Anti Capitalist Diplomacy" focus in the focus tree, even improved relations with them whenever I had the political power to spend (they had like 90-100 opinion of me CONSTANTLY), yet they STILL randomly declared war one me.

What makes this even more bizarre is that we were both fighting against the allies. Germany in an offensive war to take Benelux, me in a war against Greece and the rest of the Allies, after Greece refused my ultimatum to cede the Aegan Islands.
And two weeks into my war the Germans just randomly declares and drag Italy and Japan with them.

How the FUCK do I prevent this from happening? I just want to have ONE comfy game where I crush capitalists, not where I have to fight the goddamn fascists AGAIN.
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>>158206921
>only one of the posts was actually me
wew, you guys really are desperate for attention

>>158207226
No idea, it is kinda sad.
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>>158207226
R&I just got busted holy shit
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>>158207102
you would be shock to know how true this is.
t. Memesupreme's discord member
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Are you not longer able to change tech group in EU4?
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>>158207238
historical focus?
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So what borders should I go for? Which colonies are worth keeping, what other regions should I conquer/reconquer?
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>>158207238
you can't the game doesn't work that way
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>>158207268
>>158207270
>>158207301
speak up pipsqueak, can't hear ya
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>>158207238
Now you know how Stalin felt
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I don't want to fuel up this autism even more, but it's obvious the guy cheated.
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>>158207461
>doesn't know how to encourage migration
How the fuck do these newfags even get in?
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>>158207364
Drop everything besides the actual anglo areas, along with a few small ports/islands like Hong Kong, Singapore, Sri Lanka, Malta, Suez, etc.
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>>158207514
wew lad
here's your (You)
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>>158207590
sup HPM
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>>158207672
sup reddit
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>>158207779
Not much, just came to check if HPM guy is online.
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>>158207364
>>158207576
This, but I say keep india if you can. Also suez canal, otherwise britannia won't rule the waves
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>>158206861
This is not helpful. Please, I have no idea.
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>>158207576
>>158207905
India is railroaded into independence via the Mahatma Gandhi event chain, otherwise that's a nice plan, it's even easy to keep Ceylon, Cyprus, Newfoundland and the like IIRC. Should I keep Botswana and try to get Namibia back?
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>Its a "Turks and Russians ally" episode
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>>158208237
yes and try to get south africa too. Those are all somewhat anglo, or at least could have been. Also grab rhodesia. Do the ports, southern africa, maritimes, whatever bumfuck islands are left are yours too. Australia, NZ, Canada are anglo clay
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Three more questions:
>What do I do with pic related?
>Do I support a free or Dutch Indonesia?
>How do I deal with the Iranian?
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HEY MY COMPUTER BROKE AND I WANTED TO PLAY THE LUX INVICTA MOD FOR CK2 SO COULD SOMEONE MAKE AN AUTISTIC AAR USING LUX INVICTA?
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>>158208532

Genocide it.

Dutch Indonesia.

Fuck Em Over.
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>>158207346
No, historical mode disabled.
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how am i supposed to find archive bro on the achives if archived doesnt work and the only other /vg/ archive site i can find isnt up
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>>158208532
Israel desu
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really makes you think
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what is the best army composition in hpm with armor and planes?
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>>158209462
show liquor factories and we'll tell you
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>>158209462

>Liberal Federation of the Danube

>Fascist

>Republic

Kill yourself
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How do you go about fixing border gore in CK2? I want to transfer a save to EU4 but this shit is giving me cancer.
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>>158209820
showinfo
give_title c_title / d_title / k_title / e_title characterIDhere
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>>158209462
>Danubian Federation
>going Fascist
Literally defeats the entire purpose of becoming them in the first place.
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whats the tag for congress poland?
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I might be slow but just only realized.
Since barons dont contribute to vassal limit, i can just designate one count and give him all baronies. Then i can have a teleporting levies just like in old good days, only if bit weaker.
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>tfw I only just realised I could gobble up territory here and there without mobolising using Threaten War
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Worth it or not?
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>>158209562
iam not liberal and republic is just the name
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>>158210214
Yes, Britannia rules the waves
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What times should you debase your currency? How much corruption is usually too much?
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>>158210214
Don't lose 10 prestige over that meme shit.
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>>158210214
Not really. You'll get pelted with events like that and you'll take too many prestige and infamy hits in relation to how valuable the land is.
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>>158210271
The whole point is memes
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>>158210214
My biggest problem with NWO is how railroaded these events are. The text even says that Turkey wanted to annex the islands, yet you're only given the choice to keep them or give them to Greece.
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>>158210219

The Entire point of the federation is a liberal institution, and the name Republic implys you have killed the habsburgs
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>>158210484

>helping turks

>ever
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>>158210043
anybody know?
>>
Which general overhaul mod for EU4 do you use and why do you prefer it?
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>>158210742
MEIOU, because 2.0 SOON LADS
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>>158210787
will it be convertible to vicky ?
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>>158210787
any official date or anything really? im hype as fuck because 1.25 was already good, only minus was shit optimization and now 2.0 improves it and adds pops
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It's time.
What do?
>>
CALAIS
STRAIT
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Rate.
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>>158211109
Eretz Yisrael
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>>158211109

btfo them
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Should I keep star and crescent enabled if I don't play as a muslim nation?
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>>158211109
RESTRICT
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>>158210923
Don't know if it would be very different from current converters. Population is not broken down by culture, only religion, which is meaningless in Victoria 2.
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>>158211109
Remove nose
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What are my goals as Israel in NWO, Secure golan to suez then what?
Also how the fuck can I attack Egypt if US is allied
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>>158211717
>What is Greater Israel
>>
>>158211717
>>158211832
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>>158211973
>tfw i have tmp files filtered
hmmmm
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>>158211973
>>158211832
Ok I'll meme it up to that, but what do I do about the USA
>>
>>158209462

Related question, but more autistic, what is the ideal composition in vanilla? 4/4/2/1?
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Spaghetti here. What should my basic goals be for this game?
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>>158212271
Control him, you are Israel after all

>>158212303
R O M A
O
M
A
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>>158211109
>>158211202
>>158211363
>>158211535
>>158211590
http://www.strawpoll.me/11489717
Will check back in about 6 minutes.
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>>158212334
>muh meme empire
No. I'm not going to go full sperg on the world. Any other suggestions?
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>>158212450
Get a colony in Asia.
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>>158212303
kill the french
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>>158212682
>original idea
I like it.
>>158212715
I'll try to secure southern France while the krauts take the north.
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>>158212450
HOLY
O
L
Y

ROMAN
O
M
A
N

EMPIRE
M
P
I
R
E
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How do I make a small country into a great power?
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>>158212939
Liquor factories
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>>158212884
this
bring civilization to the teutonics
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>>158211140
>letting the italians hold triest and görz
delete save desu
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>>158206506
>>158206506
pls help...
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>>158212884
>declaring war on Germany
utter heresy
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>>158210265
Everything over 0.5 is too much.
The events for corruption under 0.5 are so good.

When you are ahead of time on admin and diplo tech you get -0.05 corruption for each, espionage has an idea that gives -0.10, for positive stability you get -0.02 per stability and when your ruler has the trait that reduces corruption, and there is an event that gives you -0.10 corruption.

So if you stack some of those modifiers you can debase and melt away the corruption for free. In other times it is usually better to just take a loan.
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>>158212884
I like this idea, but I don't want to hurt my precious Germany. I'll start a game of memeu4 to do this.
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Which is best?
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>>158195014
Is there a mod that adds a map overlay that shows present-day borders? Specifically for CK2 and/or EU4.

I would trade all my rare pepes for that shit.
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>>158213280
>>158213280
guys I'll use this, I swear
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>>158212884
"Holy"
"Roman"
"Empire"
>>
>>158207301
literally who are you

t.admin in memesupremecord
>>
>>158213782
Usually depends on what kind of fights you expect to get into.
Early on there's no point going for more fire pips, so prioritize shock. I also prefer damage over morale, because usually my armies get wrecked before they rout.
So in this case, I would say Southern Cossacks.
>>
Alright lads, just finishing up my Confederate campaign that resulted in me enslaving all of Eastern Africa. What are some good ideas for an interesting play through in Victoria II?
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>>158214303

Play as Ireland and conquer the British Empire
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>>158214483
this please
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>>158214483
this

t. Irelad
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For CK2, does anyone know if its possible to change the names of your grandchildren or other dynasty children that aren't in your court without editing the save game?
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I'm consolidating my power in the realm quite nicely, hopefully I'll be able to break free from the HRE within 100 years.

>>158214882
It's not possible
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>>158214882
You can't. You can only change dynastic names. (last names)
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>>158214965
take danish estonia
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If I, as the Ottomans, were to unify Islam, then later convert to Catholic to game the shit out of the HRE, would I lose the Unified Islam bonus?
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>>158215083
I'm not Danish, I'm a German Lübecker who seized power.
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>>158214882
>tfw unable to rename your courtiers in imitation of the Prophet (PBUH)
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>>158214874
>>158214483
Pretty sure I can't because Ireland's already a part of the British Empire
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>>158215220
>what is releasing it day one
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>>158215316
ah shit now I see senpai
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Just banned the yanks from Saudi Arabia and can now do whatever I want with them. What should I do?
>>
Seriously, how come doesn't my game update to the latest version in steam?
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>>158215515
puppet the saudis first, then puppet the world
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After a bloody war, I have managed to save the Saxon peoples of Neumark from the beasts known as the Teutons
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>>158215864

You arn't Teutons?
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>>158215923
>You aren't teutons?

>unsheathes sword
We are Brandenburgers!
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>>158215864
Fuck off, Germans are the worst race
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I'm sure this will all end perfectly.
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>>158216367
>posts an Austrian as an example
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>>158216495
>Austrians aren't german
t. Prussiapro
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>>158216597
>Austrians are Germans
t. Adolf
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>>158216231
>unsheaths saber
>teleports behind u
>cuts u in half
>installs cousin as king
pssssh... nothin personnel... fritz
>>
>>158216689
What's the difference?
>>
>austrians are germanized slovenians
>prussians are germanized baltniggers
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>>158215084
Pretty sure yes, I never did or checked the files, but there must a check to see if you're muslim there
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>Germans are just norsified French
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I-it's for the best, I swear.
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>>158217109
>0
>24
>0
>0
wew
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Commonwealth bully not so tough after getting raped
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>>158217434
xD
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>tfw the British finally show up and you can go on an offensive
WE WILL NEVER PAY DENBTS
OXI OXI OXI
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>>158218061

Invade Turkey after you have seized Naples
>>
Vassal kings outside of de jure empire dont abide their emperor laws. This is so stupid.
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>>158218268
Which laws do they follow then?
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>>158210107
>tfw threatening war doesn't display aggressive expansion potential coalitions
>tfw i was so strong that coalitions no longer mattered because i had already eliminated all smaller nations
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The coast now belongs to the Charter Company. Now immigrants can flood into the new Jerusalem and make their fortune by abusing the native savages.
>>
Is AFPG or HPM around by any chance? I have some questions for them
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I'm thinking about playing random new world, but I can't decide whatever to play Ireland or Scotland
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Oh god, is there a command to make my wife pregnant?

The ruler was at war his whole life and I didn't even see that his only son died in battle. His wife is 60 and he's 62 now.

HELP
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>>158217434
IIRC there's a severe lack of boots/ammunition or whatever you need to create troops at the start of the game so non-GPs tend not to have armies.
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>>158218061
ETERNAL ANGLO WE ARE COMIONG HOLD ON
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>>158218498
hpm died in the great shitpost war of o9
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>>158218370
Apparently they are laws unto themselves. Created India, set laws to forbid vassal wars. Wrestled Persia from mudslims and gave it to viceroy. First thing he does - declare war on weakened abbasids.
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>>158218547
Pretty sure it's "pollinate [ID of the male] [ID of the target female]
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>>158218587
HUNGARY GET OUT REEEEE
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>>158218687
Never bother with king titles outside of de jure empires then. Revoke and destroy that shit.
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>>158218547
There is a command for that but you could just switch to seduction, bang some 16 year old and legimitize the bastard
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>>158218821
50,000 AXIS SHITS TAKEN IN ALBANIA

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bJ1VIXYg4YE
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>>158218914
Yeah, one of my concubines just got pregnant.

I just hope he lives 2 more years or so.
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>>158218498
Hey m8 I want to ask new Companybro to add your Georgia playthrough to the next version, are you fine with that?
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>>158219139
Remember to swap out concubines for fresh ones at least every decade, pick lustful and other fertility boosting traits too
>>
Transition from feudal to imperial is so painful. One of few things ck2+ did right is to get rid of viceroyalties and just add imperial government.
>>
>fight war against Pomerania, Saxe-Lauenburg and Lithuania in order to get Kolberg and Stolp
>after 2 years, finally btfo them
>celebrate victory with a glass of Dr. Pepper as I look upon my new territories
>box pops up
>It's Austria demanding the return of 'unlawful' territory (the land I just got) or else they'll fuck up my income tax rates
>money is low
>have no choice
>return Kolberg and Stolp
>war was for nothing
>tfw
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>>158212303
mare nostrum
>>
>>158219496
>not eliminating pomerenia within ten years of your brandenburg start
you're not blobbing correctly lad
>>
Anyone else thinks merchant republics should make a return to modern politics?
>>
>>158219680
>implying they haven't

What is singapore, and all the other stupidly rich tiny countries
>>
is there even anything else to do in eu4 other than doing grossgermaniums over and over? playing as non-hre countries is boring as fuck
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>>158219680
>merchant republics
You mean microstate tax havens?
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>>158219007
FASCISTS SURROUNDED IN THESSALONIKI ARE ATTEMPTING TO BREAK OUT

I MAY HAVE OVEREXTENDED
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>>158217051

>Germans are just celtified Slavs
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>>158219876
WE TURN THE TIDE
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>>158217434
>>158218568
It's actually because I had annihilated Saudi Arabia and Syria's military, while Bahrain and Qatar have few pops to get a single unit. Syria and Saudi Arabia had +60k soldiers in battles overall.
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>>158219496
Try and become friends with the Emperor.

If not that then declare a war against your actual targets ally. side-peace out your target for the land you want. Core it while at war with the ally.

No bullshit from the emperor.

The con to this is the higher war percentage needed, aggression ect. But more importantly what it does to your soul, the Cheese is real.

The penalties for refusing to return land has always been a bit too harsh and far to lengthy.
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>>158220037
Germans are just romanized scandis
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>>158220042
IN THE EAST, JAPAN GETS MEMED ON BY COMBINED BRITISH AMERICAN FORCES
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>>158219158
Sure, my only gripe with that is the fact that you can only purchase British Gold Coast and the "European Focus" for Georgia isn't quite as fleshed out as it needs to be. It's fine to use it though, I'll probably fix it in a week
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ruh-roh?
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>>158220315
>terrestrial invasion of japan
i don't play hoi
is that normal?
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>Turkey starts without a single bureaucrat
>so no one pays any taxes
ebin
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Just got done BTFOing Bohemia and got Niederlausitz in the process.
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>>158220315
SNEAKY GERMANS STILL HAVE TRICKS UP THEIR SLEEVE
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>>158220580
Thanks for telling us faggot, now fuck off
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>>158220642
why are you yelling
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>>158220546
And what the fuck is this?
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>>158220392
It's extremely typical, Japan usually has all their divisions in China/SEA so you basically land unopposed and quickly sweep through it. When the player does that it's kind of a meme on account of taking advantage of the AI being retarded, but anytime the AI manages a naval invasion I consider it legit.
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>>158220895
Yugoslavia is an artificial creation, it never had any cores.
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>>158221027
t.albanian
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Even NWO has Aromanians. Why won't HPM add them?
>>
Which NWO mod is better in terms of events and atmosphere? The Vic2 or the DH mod?
>>
Is there a reason I shouldnt make seduction my focus for every ruler since every thing else is useless?
>>
>>158221279
What are those?
>>
Heard there was some shit going on with EU IV's DLC activator.
Can you still access Steam (achievements, multiplayer etc) if you buy the base game and pirate the DLC?

>>158221674
>not rulership
>not wanting to be a diligent, just and ambitious ruler with a large demesne
If you aren't stressed or depressed you're living life wrong.
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Thanks to our impressed native army and the assistance of the British Empire, Rhodesia now has access to that sweet Madagascar coal to feed our steel factories.
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>>158218498
I am.
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I'm looking for event mods in CK2, mods that add a boatload of events. Does anyone know any good ones? I know there is VIET but is that even still updated?
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>>158222090
I think you fucked up something with the Basque flags in the pdf desu
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>>158221974
>Southern Rhodesia
>1854
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>>158222568
I don't see anything wrong. What do you mean?
>>
>>158222686
>I used a light blue background since most ETA posters and uniforms use a light blue colour scheme.
For the yellow fascist flag
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r8 my economic plans lads

>>158221748
Ask MCG.
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>>158222750
Fucking hell, you are right. Well, I was bound to have some sort of mix up eventually, luckily it's a minor one and people will easily notice it was meant for the above flag. I'll have it fixed for V10. Thanks for the heads up!
>>
Is it easier to just convert catholicism as the byzantines if youre playing after the 1200s?
>>
What the hell happened to Hitlermod? Did it got dropped completely? I haven't been here for a few months, what happened?
>>
>>158223105
Same thing that happened to Hitler's skull on April 30, 1945
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>>158223105
He shot himself in his bunker
>>
is there any way to pirate the DLC and still play on steam for multiplayer?
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>>158222901
Its always easier in any start date.
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>>158223253
No.
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Started as the count of Lübeck in 1066, rate the comfyness of my realm now

>running elective
>only other duke in the realm is landless so I'm guaranteed to voting in whatever heir I want
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>>158222881
*nods*
Loving that Karelian fascist flag btw
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>India
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Does it matter at all if a junior partner in a PU hates you but the overlord and you are best buds ?
>>
Meme
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>>158222857
>subsidizing imports
For what purpose
Also pay debnts
>>
Any way to download patch 2.6.2 for CK2? I fucking hate how the archive got nuked.
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>>158223423
>>158223421
>>158223334
>>158223310
Ok after counting up the ballots this is the results of the exit polling and the Election. The Senate has been formed with a strong constitution and security (Ugly color scheme I know). The Reactionaries and the Nationalists have moved on to the next round congrats to them I guess.
>>
>>158223774
>Reed vs Hitler
epic
>>
>>158223771
Why can't we bring it back??? What happened to it?
>>
>>158223774
Libs BTFO
R&I BTFO
HPM on SUICIDE WATCH
>>
>>158222881
I'm reworking Madagascar, since it starts out completely united in game, while irl it only have the central and northern areas, so I need a ton of shitty flags for African minors that represent the various kingdoms of Madagascar that weren't under its rule.

I don't really care what they look like since they will most likely die quickly, so go as shitty as you want, but I need Johan-tier flags for:

Kingdom of Menabe (Sakalava culture)
Kingdom of Boina (Islamic Sakalava culture)
Bara Kingdom (Bara Culture)
Antandroy Kingdom (Antandroy)
Antanosy Kingdom (Antanosy)

The flags can be as Johan-tier as you want, I'll do all the fascist and communist versions, I just need the basic monarchy and republic for them

Since theres not a lot of info on some of them just use generic Malagasy symbolism for them if they don't have any info
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>>158223774
rigged
>>158224123
Based. Also could you rename Lagos, Eko? That was its original name before colonization.
>>
Wow holy shit /gsg/ exists again.

I'm reinstalling CK2 since the only time I played was a little run on Tutorial Island Ireland, which I mostly conquered until my bastard rebelled after I gave him a fief or something. It was like way back at launch.

Anyways, what of the non-cosmetic DLC is worth "getting"?
I hear some are pretty mixed or even detrimental.
>>
>>158224350
Old Gods is fun, and maybe Charlememe if you want even earlier start date. Everything else is garbage.
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>>158224350
all but Sunset Invasion.
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>>158224350
>/gsg/ exists again.
What is dead may never die
>>
>>158211973
Nice fucking meme pic lad. Ishmael, the founder of the Arab people, was also a son of Abraham. This statement does not refer to the Jews only, but to the Semite peoples in general.
>>
Is CK2 any hard or is it a steamroll from mid game onwards?
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Good job Italy.
I swear, these meme irredentist decisions completely ruin the mod. I also have one for the Megali Idea and all I need is a populist party in power to take it.
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>>158225806
Depends on how you play.

The game isn't about blobbing anyways
>>
>>158225806
Vanilla is very easy
>>
Idea for the next paradox title

Cold War game, control power projection, proxy wars, spies, propaganda. Would mainly be between Russia and USA, like a battle of east vs west. Thoughts?
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>>158226427
Paradox has never tried to make a cold war game, and never will
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>>158226427
>like a battle of east vs west.
Me on the right
/gsg/ on the left
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>>158226427
Sounds like a good idea for a HoI4 DLC, thanks!

t. johan
>>
>>158226427

>Paradox abandoned their possibly best gsg ever

It still hurts
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>>158213862
fuck off you paedo cunt
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>>158227298
t. jewhan
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>>158226427
who /TwiStrug/ here?
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>>158227003
>Paradox avoided Magna Mundi 2
It hurts to admit, but that buggy nonfunctional mess was not going to be patched very much before paracucks decided to drop it like they did MotE. Although it still would have been a marginal improvement over the leaked one
>>
>>158228470
>Canada is Europe
based
>>
Hey guys,
in HOI3 when I'm the US and I want to defend the small islands in the pacific what unit composition and number should I use?
>>
What is the name of that EU4 mod that would implement POPs?
>>
>>158228854
MEIOU and Taxes 2
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>>158228854
its called "meow, it tickles"
>>
>>158228470
This game looks pretty cool.
>>
>>158228854
No EU4 mod will implement pops, it's not possible. They are just calling their mana 'pops' now.
>>
>>158195014
Why is Sengoku Rance still in the OP image?
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Wew lad.
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>>158228903
>>158228936
>>158228962
Does it have any date of release yet? I'm tired of building liquor factories and fucking my family members.
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>>158224123
Here's the new Madagascar culture map

Once someone unites Madagascar it will slowly assimilate to Malagasy
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>>158228854
boku no taxes
>>
What is the agreed upon mod to use in Victoria 2.

Is HPM good even though the creator is cancer.
>>
>>158229502
HPM is the best one.
Don't know why would you think he's cancer, he's one of the nicest and most helpful people around.
>>
>>158229617
Fuck off Rob
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>>158229502
Caleb's Political Titles
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>>158224123
Ok, I'll see what I can do. So just republican and monarchy flags then? Got it.
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>>158229107
Oh shit
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>>158228674
The best defensive strategy is to have one division of anything on the island, just to make the invasion take long enough that you can bring a NAV stack and a fleet in to destroy the enemy fleet.
Otherwise, you'll need several of 3 INF+1(or 2) ART (or GAR instead of INF if having INF sit on an island doing nothing triggers you) and you may need to build some forts or the Jap marines and the naval bombardment penalty will cause you to lose eventually.
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>start getting everything together for the last two members of charlie's family
>make it so that in time, i can get them france back and rebuild germany
>do this so christendom doesn't have to rely on daddy rome for everything
>pic related
Sooner than I thought.
>>
>>158229107
>>158229852
In all of the times the league war has actually happened in my games, its only been satisfactory once ever for me, when I was byzantium allied to austria in the catholic league.
Every other time it was a curbstomp.
>>
>>158229324
Gigau said it would be a "Christmas gift", but considering how much shit they're putting in it, I doubt it will be balanced by then
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>>158228962
>vickybaby getting this desperate
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>>158230203
I think I'm just gonna hang out in Russia (I'm Russia) and slap Sweden's Finnish provinces a bit
>>
Do you guys play with the Sunset Invasion on in CK II.

Or is it too stupid / OP.
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>tfw creating my own cadet branches

this is so fun
>>
If I start a game in 867 for CK II will the H.R.E. eventually form or will it always just be France / Lotharingia / East Francia.
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/gsg/ told me to play papal italy last night. here's how it's going, and here's the planned empire. blue = puppet, green = direct territory. anything else I should add?
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>>158229349
Neat, westernizing as it should be faster now as well.
>>
Will you guys fuck off from the /v/ thread already
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muslims can't stop dancing
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>>158231446
Why on Earth would you take the Egyptian desert, which is worthless, and not the rest of Egypt? Just annex all of Egypt so it connects to Ethiopia, it'll look better too.
>>
>>158231675
thought it'd be quite aesthetic, but tunisia to somalia connection would look quite nice too.
>>
How do you get immigrants as a boer state in Victoria 2?
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>>158231446
Yeah, the fucking Holy Land and the Levant.
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Pomerania eternally BTFO!
I unfortunately had to return Stralsund upon his Majesty's request.
What should I do next?
>>
>>158232130
You don't.
>>
is in hpm still the event that allows you to annex a vassal with same culture ?
>>
>>158232326
Annex Sweden
>>
>>158232326
uninstall.exe
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>>158232581
yes
>>
>>158232468
Meme answer?
>>
>>158232728
how is it triggerd?
>>
>>158232326
Go GroB.
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>>158232772
sphere them and wait, as long as they aren't african I think they will petition for annexation
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>>158232871
thank you
do you know if the relations effect the event ?
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fugg :DDD

inheriting the AI's factories was a curse

>>158232291
how could I forget
>>
>>158233142
Don't know, sorry.
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>>158231446
how'd you do papal italy? I got destroyed every try
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BOHEMIA BTFO
>>158232683
>wanting cucks in your grossgermania
>>
>>158233142
The united baltic duchies are an exception to this rule though, they never petition for annexation. Colonial nations too.
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>>158233331
>Teutons not dead
lad...

also
>>158233333
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Sheeeeit, they're assmad. What do?
>>
>>158233549
pray that austria and poland don't get involved
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>>158233268
>conquer two sicillies, doing 3 wars over the course of about 3 years, with france as your ally
>snatch venice and lombardia from austria when they're weak
>sphere italian minors
>click button
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>>158233487
get out newfag
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SHEEEEEEIT! The beerniggers are involved!
Time to kick some arsch!
>>
ideal army composition for EU4?
>>
>>158233926
inf spam

took me quite a while to figure that one out

You should have one army as the main battle one, compromised of 3:1:0 (i:c:a), while everything else should be full infantry spam, apart from the siege division of 10 art which you attach to a siege
>>
>>158234124
So when going to battles dont have any artillery and only use artillery at sieges? I thought the meta was 2:1:2
>>
>>158234301
The meta is to siege half of the AI's nation with infantry spam, while the main siege division sieges the important fort and the combat division guards them all

The problem of using any other strategy is the insane cost of art and cav, which is highly not worth it. If you need the siege division on a front, just move it for the battle and move it back to the siege after you win
>>
>>158234449
enjoy your noshock
>>
um, infantry and cavalry aren't supposed to be able to attack from the backrow right?
>>
>>158233827
>Plays a Prussia game and purposely loses to show the weakness of G*rmans
Based
>>
>>158234531
>Go for diplo ideas
>Use your huge belt of allies to bait the enemies' manpower into depletion
>Move in and salvage rest with your infantries
>The excess money you saved then allows you to build pretty much every building and have extra in case of needing mercenaries

I don't see the problem
>>
How come some times in vicky 2 classic and HPM the opposing great powers aren't disarmed after a great war? Do you need 100 war score or something for that to happen

inb4 no replies to circle jerk about namefags and steam
>>
>>158235650
because their liquor production is too much to imbalance
>>
>>158235650
Maybe you just can't tell that they're disarmed because they have such a large military to begin with?
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>>158235650
unless you have added and enforced the cb to disarm them they wont disarm.
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>mudslimes attacking me in terrible terrain while I do God's work
>every goodly christian knight fells at least 6 muslims with his sword and bow.
>templars and hospitallers crashing into the muslims from both flanks scoring ridiculous morale hits
>tfw taking on the entire mudslime world (playing with defensive pacts so mongols don't go apeshit) and literally give no shits.

st. thomas soon boys
>>
I'm looking for the most complex gs I can find, got any suggestions?
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is KSP grand strategy?
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>>158236305
Minecraft
>>
>>158236342
yes
>>
>>158236342
Sure is.
>>
>>158236305
Football Manager.
>>
>>158236342
If EU4 is, I don't see why not. And let's not forget their rich shitposting heritage
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>>158236342
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>>158236562
not him, but seriously?
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>>158236305
unironically Aurora
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>>158235821
Probably. Is it only ultimate mod where you can force them to disband their empire?
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>>158236862
>Aurora
>complex

lmao
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Almost there lads!
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>>158236862
He said Grand Strategy, not 4x.
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>>158237315
its literally the same
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Why the fuck does stellaris feel so boring to me?

Almost every match feels like a dice roll hoping you get a bunch of colonizable planets nearby. The tech tree is a seemingly endless list of random unimportant bullshit that barely changes anything until you get to the end game stuff, and even then there's no cool shit like super weapons. The game's speed even on fastest makes matches last fucking hours on end with very little happening in the grand scheme of things, you'll spend hours just managing pop happiness, constructing buildings, doing very boring shit in general with very little payoff for it.

I like the internal politics, I love the scale of it, I love the sense of discovery in the early game, fighting off pirates, exploring, finding cool/spooky shit. Then the mid game comes around, everything's been found, nobody wants to fight any more, everyone just starts rallying under the most powerful factions for protection. The most exciting thing that might happen is that natural border expansions might steal you a few new mining stations from a neighboring faction's territory. This would be fine if it didn't last that long but it's quite the opposite, this "gameplay" makes up the bulk of the match in most cases, and the matches are fucking LONG.

Why the fuck shouldn't I play sins of a solar empire or something instead? I'd even take the new Master of Orion over this, I'm just so sick of everything grinding to a halt mid-game. I'll often literally find myself doing sweet fuck all, just waiting for time to go by so I can amass enough influence/energy/material to actually fucking do something or keep expanding. Everything just takes so long to get anything done. It's all so tiresome.
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should i drop my glider now?
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>>158228470
Can never find a good torrent for it. The main one thats out has no crack.
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I'm making like 2 gold per month as a swedish tribal norse pagan... how am I supposed to go raiding? I have too few ships, I can't raise my vassal's because I'm not feudal, and I certainly can't pay for the upkeep of the raiders AND my own ships.

So what's the best way to kickstart this and not go broke?
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We have no breaks, but we're safe.
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>>158198356
This actually sounds great. Could someone come up with rules for this? Like x/2 legitimacy+1d100 to get the nobles to allow you to war.
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>>158237875
>>158238145
fuck this boring shit

Send a jet plane to Laythe, or something else fun
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>>158238145
do you have brakes?
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>>158238407
fuck you, i wanted to make a shitty glider
>>158238510
no
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>Be Russia
>Get dragged into shitty war just to save 20 prestige
>10 years of Protestant League War
>France finally caves in with a white peace
>Oh neat, should be easy to mop up now
>Ottomans joins on the side of the Protestants with the largest army in the game and fresh manpower

FUCK
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>>158236270

How far east should I go lads?
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>>158238956

Religious map.

>nestorian mongols

jesus
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>>158238956
until your name is Prester John
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>>158238956
expand all the way to the end of persia then build a wall to keep the indians out of europe
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>>158238956
>>158239119

>forgot to turn off aztecs

is there a way i can turn this shit off?
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is Life is Strange grand strategy?
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>>158239305
"no"
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>>158233926
What's good, faggots? I'll be taking over from here.
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>>158239305
Sure, why not.
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>>158239305
literally everything is grand strategy
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>>158239290
Kill the leaders and the event troops disappear. So console it.
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>>158238673
Oh nevermind. The war ended before the turks even arrived in time to make a difference.
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sides in orbit
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>>158240403
Did this get updated for 2.6.2?
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>>158240723

Yeah
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REEEEEEEE
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>>158240964
This is why Prussian monarchy is the best.
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Guess I'm done toying in the Middle East now 2bh
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1) How should I go about forming Greater Germany as Austria—without using the occupation-until-SP trick on Prussia?

2) How many wars is it likely to take to knock them down to SP status?

3) If I ally the French, should I expect Prussia's ally Britain to give them much trouble?
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What the fuck is this? Israel doesn't even exist and all options give Suez back to Egypt.
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>>158241672
And I can't even add a wargoal to take the entire Sinai thanks to this scripted war giving me a Status Quo CB. This makes no fucking sense.
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>>158241893
>plays a meme mod
>gets memed on
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>>158239984

>console out of it

lad, i'm on ironman
that's okay though. FUCK IT
DEUS VULT ALL THE THINGS
>180k aztecs land in christian england
>time to defend christendom
>england getting completely overwhelmed
>show up with 3000 heavy cav
>slaughtering stacks left and right
>push the aztec emperor off a ledge with assassins
>native dindus get sick of my shit, mass assault across the loire river
>outnumbered 2:1 with their 60,000 dindus
>the slaughter that ensues

is there a greater feeling, lads?
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>>158241893
I wish NWO wasn't railroaded to hell either.
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Awww yiss

WE WUZ POPES!
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>>158242016
>>158242819
The game shortly crashed afterwards too.
Oh well, since the UK will only make me even more mad, help me pick another nation lads.
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H-hi guys.
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>>158243350
why do the Teutons still exist?
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>>158243197
Poland, be groß
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>>158243197
Ireland, unite the Celtic peoples.

t. Irelad
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>>158243197
Japan. Try and take back Sakhalin from the Soviets.
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>>158243432
I'll be invading the Teutonic Order in 1490, as I must wait for Poland's truce with the Teutons to expire. Bohemia is allied with the Teutons, so I will be taking care of the Bohemians while the Poles take care of the Teutons.
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>>158243561
SHUT THE FUCK UP STOP SAYING TIRELAD YOU FUCKING ATTENTION WHORE HOOOOLY CRAP. FUCKING DIEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>158243350
How did you win that punitive war you were doing terrible in?
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>>158243197
>>158243489
>>158243561
>>158243653
http://poal.me/cyw1uk
http://poal.me/cyw1uk
http://poal.me/cyw1uk
>>
>switching your 4chan name every time you get a new ruler

now THIS is some reddit-tier autism
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>>158243910
who are you quoting?
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>>158243829
treddit
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>>158243873
>nip
>>
Everyone posting games in real yank hours is an autistic literal faggot from reddit and should go back 2bh
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>>158244121
>yank
>real hours
>autistic
>literal
>faggot
>reddit
>go back
>2bh
Gidday, Reddit.
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>>158244237
not him, but hello 4chan
trebbit invader
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>>158243873
>nip
>>
Is vanilla HoI 3 good? If not, which mods should I get?
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Oh boy, this will be a fun event for Madagascar

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tangena
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ranavalona_I

> In the 1820s, the tangena ordeal caused about 1,000 deaths annually. This average rose to around 3,000 annual deaths between 1828 and 1861. In 1838, it was estimated that as many as 100,000 people in Imerina died as a result of the tangena ordeal, constituting roughly 20 percent of the population.
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>>158244723
No, it's literally easier than EU4

Get BlackIce. It's a shit mod but the rest are shitter
>>
>tfw everything went perfectly
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>>158243954
based "wayq?" poster
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>>158244810
hehe fuck niggers lmao
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Who would win a war between the last 2 nations you played if they were in the same timeline /gsg/?
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I think it's awesome how you can get your very own candid "Joan of Arc" event chain in CK II.

Gonna betroth her to my heir.
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>>158245468
>germany
>germany
Hmm... Good question, anonymous! I'll have an answer for you shortly.
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>>158245147
xD
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How do you guys hand the conversion from nomad to tribal?

Seriously, what a clusterfuck it is...
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>>158245656
t. grobgermaniums pro
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Hehe, Teutons btfo.
>>158243854
>doing terrible
I was never doing terribly, I just pointed out how badly the odds were stacked against me. I just let them occupy my lesser provinces while I went for their capitals.
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>>158245742
Only half of my games are prussia ones though.
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>>158245872
well, what's the last game you played that wasnt prussia?
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>>158245771
What's your AE?
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>>158245641
She cant have kids. Unless you console it out.
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>>158245943
>AE
Wut?
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>>158245940
Based USA
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>>158246129
Would they have beaten your latest GroBgermaniums?
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>>158246182
No
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>>158244810
Can't wait for the madagascar bloat
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>>158246123
>Annexes all of TO without knowing what AE is
rip
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>>158246393
I'm now assuming you mean aggressive expansion. My overextension is at 89%, but I'm working on reducing it.
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>>158245963
Fuck Paradox.
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What would be a good name for a Muslim kingdom in northern Spain (as opposed to Al-Andalus in the south)?
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>>158246846
Al-ternative
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>catholic becomes a heresy
>more catholic provinces
Wouldnt Orthodoxy become the Heresy then?
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>>158247165
The idea is that by conquering the holy see and installing a new orthodox pope who does not claim to be the sole representative of god on Earth, you tell all the other christians of Europe to accept the new patriarch of Rome or be branded heretics. There's a bunch of events to rapidly turn like 2/3 of them orthodox.
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>>158247165
All the catholics get a meme event to convert to prevent this, watch

Theoretically if you get a larger catholic heresy AFTER this, it works
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>>158246270
post both blobs pls
>>
I don't like HoI. I like Vicky in concept but it doesn't seem to actually be any fun to play (partially thanks to broken economics and more because of nonsense politics that effect nothing even though it's the most interesting part of the era). I like EU4 even though it's piss easy and CK2 (with plus) is my go to game. I tried EU Rome and it's broken on Windows 10 with RotA. Where do I move from here lads?
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>>158246889
kek
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>>158247528
>Where do I move from here lads?

to reddit
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>>158247452
No
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>>158247528
reddit
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>>158247528
see >>158247771
& >>158247805
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>>158247793
Yes
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>>158248086
No
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>>158248219
Why not?
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>>158248249
Why so?
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>>158248342
So i can look at them
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>>158248401
I don't want you to look at them
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Should I do a zunist or zoroastrian persian empire?
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>>158248461
fuck you
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>>158247528
AGEOD games
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>>158248514
Play prussia
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>>158243873
>nip
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>>158248461
But I do
>>158248530
this is not me btw
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>>158248649
>But I do
I don't care
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why does the AI do this?
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>>158248649
>>158248702
I don't care either, I don't want to see them

>>158248649
not me btw
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>>158248702
Why do you not care?
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>>158248796
Why would I care?
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>>158248850
Because you keep responding
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Then I will stop responding
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How the fuck do you deal with unemployment as an unciv? This province had something like 230k pops 10 years ago IIRC.
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how the fuck did this happen?
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>>158249115
>That literacy
How?!
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But you just did. Did you think i wouldn't notice if you didn't give me a (You)?
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>>158245963
That's not true, if your Intrigue is high enough you can convince her to abandon the vows. She'll lose some of her magical Martial skills because of that, I think and her title will change.
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>>158249225
Create a writing system and stop blobbing.
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>>158249115
a-anyone?
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>>158249384
How were you able to create one that fast? RNG educational reform or what?
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>>158249653
Your cattle farms can't compete with western ones, and cattle is overproduced early on. As more western farmers move into factories while you westernize and tech up, employment will go up again, though cattle provinces will never produce too much.
>>
I want to get in to Victoria 2 but even the tutorials confused me. Is there an easy way to get in to it?
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Here's the first of the worthless shitters that will occupy much of Madagascar.
All of south Madagascar will be under the control of various kingdoms, but since Madagascar has cores on them they won't last for long as AI.

This one in particular, Sakalava, was kicked out of Mahajanga in the 1820s and forced to retreat to Maore. They get annexed by France if they are AI and France has Medicine. The next kingdoms will all actually have land in the island proper.

If any kingdom owns all of Madagascar (Except Madagascar of course), they will be able to form Madagascar, or just assert hegemony over the island, which will create Malagasy culture and slowly assimilate all the natives to it.
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>>158249778
But what should I do in the meantime? Something is surely not right, my neighbours are doing fine with their cattle province and my rank is far superior to theirs. Should I abolish tariffs entirely so my farmers get their food cheaper from elsewhere or should I get even bigger tariffs in order to ensure my pops get all their cattle from Benin only? Tariffs are currently sitting on 60%, effective tax is 20% on everyone but the middle class, which only has to pay up 15%.
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>>158249839
Brazil is a sandbox so play that
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>>158250447
Seriously lad, I'm begging to know

DId you get the education reform modifier or did you take another route to get writing?
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>tfw you save christendom singlehandedly from 180000 eaglefuckers
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>>158250386
>They get annexed by France if they are AI and France has Medicine. The next kingdoms will all actually have land in the island proper.
Doesn't the NNM's original flavour say something about they petitioning for the French to annex them or something among those lines?
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>>158250447
Prestige doesn't affect world market buy/sell order.

Why is it even a problem to you? Pops can't move abroad so they'll just spread out across your other provinces, you're not losing any. It's likely that because your nation is doing reasonably well, your other provinces are selling more shit and there's more employment there. Try tagswitching to Aro and checking how much employment they have in Awka.
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>>158250563
Oh right, IIRC I got the educational reform about 7 years ago, but I already had a somewhat large intellectual population since I only cared about the Yoruba States until recently.
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>>158250584
Yeah, he was in a tough position where the other Comoros islands were raiding him and Madagascar was supported by Britain, so he decided to enlist the french for protection.

At any rate I'm inclined to preserve the decision, since an event for it would just be redundant.
Why do you bring that up? Is there something that you feel could be done differently?
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>>158250707
A lot of those pops are going to Lagos, and it won't take long until the British seize it. After they seize it, it'll take a few decades to take those pops back.
Awka seems to be doing fine, all slaves and farmers are employed.
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>>158249115
Unciv unemployment is great desu, it promotes pop mixing for maximum assimilation without any of the emigration losses you'd get if you were civilized. The pops just quickly and efficiently move to wherever they can find work within your borders. Now if only there was a way to encourage artisan demotion.
>>
^fuck off
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>>158251012
>Why do you bring that up? Is there something that you feel could be done differently?
Not really, I was just a little intrigued by France needing anything to do it since it was based on a petition made by the Sakalava. Though those requirements are fairly easy for France and actually make sense now that I think about it.
>>
^treddit
>>
>>158251629
>Some people talk about african countries and one playthrough for an hour
>WAAAAAAAH WHY ARENT YOU GUIS TALKING ABOUT REAL COUNTRIES LIKE PRUSSIA >:CCCC
>>
^^^
see ^^
>>
Does anyone have a source on japan's literacy being ~40% in mid 1800s and a reason for it? And generally sources on all starting literacy rates used for vicky
>>
How do I colonize as the papal state lads

talking about eu4 here btw
>>
>>158251195
Started a game to try and replicate it, but benin is doing just fine for me, so I'm afraid I just don't know. It's 1848 though so the springtime of nations is ongoing and sometimes fucky things happen to the economy.
>>
>>158252071
>And generally sources on all starting literacy rates used for vicky
You think there were censuses for countries outside Europe other than the US, some Latin American countries and some European colonies in the mid 1800s?
>>
>>158252150
Take Granada before Castille turns to it. Spread from there. You might prefer to go for Africa rather than America so as to Christianize it all before Islam can go past Mali.
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>>158252449
That's why I want some sort of other source.
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>>158252610
I think it's mostly based on guess work after its first censuses. That's how I remember HPM fixing the Congo for instance.
>>
>>158252946
Certainly some academic investigation has been done about 19th century literacy rates?
>>
AFPG are you here still?
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>>158253124
Are you the new grandi
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>>158250447
It's really just the cattle man.
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huh, somehow my half brother became sultan of africa.
hope he doesn't lose the crusade for sicily that just got called.
>>
>>158253119
"literacy" in V2 doesn't represent actual literal "literacy" so much as it represents general education level of the pop in question, so even research on the subject isn't necessarily of great use. Most starting literacy rates in-game are either guessed or selected to produce a desired outcome, which is why you see japan and usa with the same literacy: japan needs high starting literacy in order to westernize quickly and stay relevant once it does so.
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>>158253119
There's a lot of sources, pops is something more complicated but literacy is easy to find.

>>158253775
Japan was famous for having a highly literate society and the US has more literacy than them.
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>>158251629
Its not my fault, I downloaded 2 hours of Swedish hardcore porn and it wasnt interracial cuckolding.
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>>158253492
Are you in a sphere?
Otherwise, check the market for cattle, you probably just don't have much internal pop demand for cattle and cattle are probably overproduced globally. Once the USA's cattle provinces turn into oil and canned goods becomes a huge global industry due to military demand, cattle will surely turn profitable again. In the mean time, it doesn't hurt you at all to have those pops move into other provinces.
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>>158254014
You really should check the context before replying.
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>>158253392
HPM is still alive, as far as I am aware, and I'm not a very good modder comparatively.

Quite honestly I'm starting to miss Mega Campaigns, but modding is nice too
>>
>>158254060
I don't get it.
>>
man it's so hard to start a playthrough. I keep thinking there's more left to plan before I can get going
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If I'm secular, democratic Tunisian welfare state with an educated population of warm hearted people while Europe is going through its 6th World War, what's the logic behind me not getting a single European immigrant?
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>>158254921
because they would rather live in the US than some desert shithole
>>
>>158254921
>>158254921

i'd rather die than live in a desert shithole
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>>158254180
You're replying to the guy who was replicating the game of the guy you're trying to help.
>>
Has anyone gone colonial as Prussia? I had to do something and am on mobile, but I figured with the restrictions placed on size, being a colonial monster would give me something to do. I wanted to jump from Iceland, but Sweden was loyal for like 50 years so I had to no CB into Ireland. I'm slightly too large right now, and I'm already in Greenland/Canada/New York/Bermuda, so I was thinking of getting rid of either Neumark, that starting Polish province, or my Irish provinces.
>>
>>158254921
New-world immigration bonuses are beyond OP.
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>>158255097
Irish Provinces me lad, release a Vassal Irish country and feed them all of Ireland.
>>
>>158254958
>>158255064
Neither of you are early 20th century tier poor.
100k Italians went to Tunisia to be oppressed by the French government, in fact Italians swarmed North Africa as a whole before Italy acquired Libya.
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>>158253935
>was famous for having a highly literate society

now we have come full circle: source?
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>>158254081
Well if he dies you definitely don't have the same stick up your ass like he does so that's good
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>>158255304
[citation needed]
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>>158255591
Just google it m8
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>>158255178
The new world doesn't even get bonuses, it's in the victoria code that non-nw countries cannot receive foreign migrants.
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>>158255293
Should I convert them to Prussian before I release them, or would that prevent them from forming Ireland?
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>>158255304
25k pops is nothing. V2 only models large scale migration like the millions who went to the US or Mexico.
Besides they went there because they were poor and overpopulated as fuck and it was the closest they could go. They also went before the french came.
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>>158255771
Even the system for colonial migration is flawed, since the only colonists come from the colonizing country. Then there's the issue of Chinese migration to the Americas, and how international settlements are basically nonexistent.
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>>158255771
Here's a classic example of a retard who doesn't know what he's talking about but pretends he does.
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>>158255723
I've never really thought about it, but I guess most of the other modders are dead as of late.

HPM will probably stay alive for a long time, this is pretty unusual for such a long hiatus
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>>158255773
That would prevent it. Irish ally best ally t.bh

t. Irelad
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>>158255728
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Italian_Tunisians
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Italian_Egyptians

>>158255830
But that's the point - 25k pops went to OTL Tunisia before 1936 from Italy alone even though it went from being an Ottoman puppet to a French puppet and a French protectorate afterwards. A scenario like >>158254921 would be able to gather much more people, not only from Italy but also from Spain, France, the Aegan and so on.
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>>158256214
YOU LITTLE CANCER, HOLY SHIT KILL YOURSELF YOU WORTHLESS POSTER. DID YOUR MOTHER NOT LOVE YOU??? WHY ARE YOU DOING THIS!??!
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>>158214874
>>158243561
>>158256214
Samefag
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>>158256352
>(((wikipedia)))
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>>158256352
>in a 100 years 25K italians went to tunisia because it was close to Sicily which was overpopulated
>so it totally means tunisia should get immigrants

Can't you understand the concept of large-scale immigration?
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>>158256501
You're not wrong laddo.
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>>158256214
I won't be annexing it, so might as well leave them. I only would have done it for the meme factor.
Should I March them, too?
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>>158256057
>chinese migration
HPM turned off unciv emigration to 1) prevent USA from exploiting Chinese immigration by mass-occupying it and 2) to prevent small countries from emptying out completely due to the westernizing +MIL modifiers and cholera.
Is it a perfect solution? No, it doesn't represent some of the population exchanges that did occur in the 19th century like the chinese to usa example.
Is it better than vanilla? Yes, especially with NNM's new African minors (instead of uncolonzied), with unciv emigration on those states would be depopulated by the time they are annexed while in reality the inhabitants had neither the desire nor the means to go anywhere.
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>>158256530
Why would articles about Italians in Egypt and Tunisia before WW2 be Jewish lies?
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>>158256631
HPM didn't turn off unciv immigration, they didn't ever emigrate.
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>>158256607
It's probably best, prevents ""accidental"" annexation
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>>158256640
Because everything has to be Jewish lies or whites would have to face the fact that they fucked up. I swear everything is about howan inferior race pulled th wool over the eyes of the superior one for over 100 years and so now we need to blame everything on the inferior one who happens to have a world wide shadow government.

But they arent the superior ones.
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Honestly a lot of these modding issues with no solution could be fixed if the source code was available (is it?) and if it was documented well enough and we had someone here with know-how and time, these things could be fixed in a satisfying and correct way.
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>>158256929
none of the "issues" brought here are hardcoded, you can cheat if you want to get immigrants in tunisia because you think the game should model small scale immigration
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>>158257010
Modelling migration in a good way though. Like where it wouldn't break anything and makes historical sense/is plausible.

There's other impossible things too, like regarding assimilation, you can't pick and choose what pop cultures assimilate or the speed. Or I mean you can theoretically but fucking with those files always goes wrong for me
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>>158256578
>in a 100 years 25K italians went to tunisia because it was close to Sicily which was overpopulated
But that's wrong, it's 25k pops and the absolute majority (+90% of them) showed up in between 1860 and 1905. After that, the French started trying their best to stop Italians from settling there. I don't see why an independent Tunisia under this pretext >>158254921 wouldn't be able to get at least 800k Europeans. And for a nation like Tunisia, 200k extra pops is a lot.
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>>158257282
realism is not a meaningful argument
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>>158257282
You mean modelling small scale immigration which would be a hog on processing power for no gain at all.

> you can't pick and choose what pop cultures assimilate or the speed
That's retarded and completely outside the scope of V2, you aren't supposed to pick and choose this shit.
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>>158257357
>he says while he cries about Tunisia not getting 50 million Aryans
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>>158257341
It's still small scale immigration. It's 46 pops per year ffs
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>>158257581
It could be done like Swiss/Boer immigration (410% immigrant attraction for 2/3 years)
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>>158257753
The game doesn't simulate small scale immigration. Period. How hard is to understand that?
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This is so easy.

>change to single party democracy
>legalize freedom of speech and demonstration
>lower taxes to 10%
>lower tariffs to 2%
>max slide on all government budget options

In just 10 years, I managed to raise GDP to 3.4 trillion, GDP per capita to 55K USD, 0.9 higher HDI, major transnational Iranian companies operating even overseas, full autonomy in all sectors of economy, 98/100 stability, converted most the population to zoroatristan, technically revived the ancient aryan alphabet and made it the official script, ranked as 7th most powerful military, etc.
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>>158249778
how can RGOs compete with each other when they sell goods at the same price
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>>158258030
sp2?
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>>158258124
Because countries with higher ranking sell first, that's how.
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>>158257874
Lad, I'm talking about a decision. Switzerland and Boer States both have decisions to get a modifier that gives them an extra percentage of immigrant attraction for a small period.
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>>158258208
>Tunisia should attract people from all over europe based on a very specific situation that happened in southern italy
Yes that makes a lot of sense.
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>>158258030
Similarly, Taiwan is very fun to play as.
>intentionally fuck up relations with China, and make them declare war on you
>US starts funding rebels in the mainland, gives you state of the art weaponry to defend against mainland scum
>take over china completely, it becomes a single party democracy under nationalist kuomitang
>consolidate power
>give a finger to the united states
>enjoy doing everything china has been doing since deng xiaping but now with 100% chinese nationalism
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>>158258275
Oh for fuck's sake. I'm talking about nations close to Europe that meet a criteria that resembles >>158254921.
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>>158258618
>Every nation "close to europe" should get immigrants based on a small scale immigraiton that happened in tunisia because of a specific situation that happened in italy
Makes even more sense.
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>>158258124
Because as an unciv you're in line to sell after all civs and china, meaning that effectively, 99% of the world's population has already satisfied their demand for cattle by the time you get to sell your spares.
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>>158258712
Did you even read my first post? The one I've quoted 3 times already?
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>>158258879
What you want is that every nation in europe and nearby get a decision for immigration just because they have a few reforms.
You are retarded lad.
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>>158258030
The same could be said about any other country.
When I play USA and I drag down the personal tax rate to 8 percent and the tarrifs to 2 percent, I get at least 20 percent early GDP growth.
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>>158260147
Retarded strategy that only gets you a debt which is difficult to pay off and unables you to invest in say, a better nuclear weapons program to fuck Russia. I keep taxes at least 40 percent.
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What are my goals?
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>>158260617
Hillary please
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>>158260687
Unite Aragon as a Catalan, then have a Mediterranean empire
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I just want HOI3-styled combat with V2-esque limited warfare, pops, economy, and political memery.

Why is this so hard.
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What happened to the anon that wanted to make a GS?
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>japan in early 1900
Is this what happens when Hideyoshi doesnt die?
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>>158258030
>>158258316
>>158260147
what game?
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>>158261332
see >>158258172 ?
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How come they still haven't fixed alliances in eu4?
Three times this week now.

>be byzantium
>allied to hungary
>declare war on bosnia, call in hungary
>hungary joins on bosnian side instead

>be pope
>declare war on naples
>ottomans join on my side despite hating me and not being allied to anyone in the war

>be vijananfsagagerar
>declare war on bahmanis
>two of the little south indian nations join even though I just broke alliances with them
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>>158261497
thanks dude
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>9k people support the Jacobins
>4 brigades (12k people) ready to revolt

None of my armies contain Jacobin brigades.

HPM?
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>>158261512

>be pope
>declare war on naples
>ottomans join on my side despite hating me and not being allied to anyone in the war

I think this is the new great powers mechanic at work, which tbhfam should only kick in with one of the later instutitions imhofamtbhfam
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>>158260687
Marry a white women then migrate from sp*in to be a count in a non shit hole
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>>158261809
Naples was independent and only allied to genoa, no great powers involved. Alliances just seem busted, I've seen AIs randomly join wars they have no business in.
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>>158261736
>cropping
remember that the first brigade costs 3k and subsequent brigades from the same province only cost 1k, so you're probably just making a bad assumption about how brigades are populated from rebel pops
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>>158262101
>>158262101
>>158262101
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>>158262246
Allahu Ackbar
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>>158261736
Rebel brigades work differently than the ones you build.
Is this your first game?
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>>158260687
>no sympathy for muslims.
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>>158262246
>6^52 - 20x5008 + Pi memes early
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>>158262450
Your math is incorrect.
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>>158262450
>2.9098125988731506183153025616435e+40 memes early
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>>158262536
SCRUMP SCRUMP SCRUMP SCRUMP SCRUMP SCRUMP SCRUMP SCRUMP
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>>158262536
What are you implying anon?
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